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You may copy it, give it away or -re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License included -with this eBook or online at www.gutenberg.org - - -Title: Warren Commission (10 of 26): Hearings Vol. X (of 15) - -Author: The President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy - -Release Date: October 21, 2013 [EBook #44010] - -Language: English - -Character set encoding: ISO-8859-1 - -*** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK WARREN COMMISSION - HEARINGS V10 *** - - - - -Produced by Curtis Weyant, Charlene Taylor, Charlie Howard, -and the Online Distributed Proofreading Team at -http://www.pgdp.net. Images generously provided by -www.history-matters.com. - - - - - - -</pre> - +<div>*** START OF THE PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK 44010 ***</div> <div class="transnote covernote"> <p>Cover created by Transcriber and placed in the Public Domain.</p> @@ -4853,7 +4814,7 @@ Bar with Oswald, not both.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Liebeler</span>. What is the name of the brother of the owner of the Havana Bar?</p> -<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Bringuier</span>. Ruperto Peña, and the one who saw Oswald in the bar—that +<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Bringuier</span>. Ruperto Peña, and the one who saw Oswald in the bar—that was the one who served the lemonade to him—Evaristo Rodriguez.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Liebeler</span>. Did you report this to the FBI when you talked to them after @@ -4909,7 +4870,7 @@ the debate that you had with Oswald on August 21, 1963. Is that correct?</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Bringuier</span>. I went to the city hall, and they informed me—I think the person that informed me—maybe I am wrong—is Mr. Diboll—I had that name here wrote on the back—and he gave to me the information that it had to be -3½ by 5½ and this was not possible to distribute in that size, and I decided not +3½ by 5½ and this was not possible to distribute in that size, and I decided not to distribute.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Liebeler</span>. But you prepared this some time during August in 1963?</p> @@ -5096,9 +5057,9 @@ him about that.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Bringuier</span>. Thank you.</p> -<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Liebeler</span>. Going back briefly to this story of Mr. Peña telling you that he +<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Liebeler</span>. Going back briefly to this story of Mr. Peña telling you that he had seen Oswald in the Havana Bar with this other Mexican, did the FBI -ever talk to Mr. Peña about this? Do you know?</p> +ever talk to Mr. Peña about this? Do you know?</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Bringuier</span>. I don't know. I know that the owner of the Havana Bar, in my opinion, is a good person, but he says that always when he talk to the @@ -5578,7 +5539,7 @@ Lutheran and also that he was presently unemployed but had worked at William B. Reily Coffee Company, New Orleans, about three months, working on heavy machinery and earned $60 per week. He worked from May to July 17, 1963 at that company. He further stated that he had worked for Jax Brewery approximately -1½ months ago.</p> +1½ months ago.</p> <p>"I asked him again about the members of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee in New Orleans and why the information was such a big secret; that if had @@ -5615,7 +5576,7 @@ she liked America and the wife answered 'Yes I do' but said her husband again brought out of the cell to me. I then asked if he had given me all of the needed information about his background and he said he had. I asked him if he lived in Russia and he stated that somebody had told me this. He then -admitted he had lived in Russia for 2½ years, going there by 'slow boat to Europe.' +admitted he had lived in Russia for 2½ years, going there by 'slow boat to Europe.' I asked him how he got over there and he related he left Fort Worth, Texas, stayed in New Orleans a few days and then took the 'slow boat to Europe.' He took a tour of Europe and wound up in Russia. He lived in Moscow and Minsk, @@ -5825,7 +5786,7 @@ that this was the case?</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Martello</span>. No, sir.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Liebeler</span>. From your memorandum it appears that Oswald told you that -he had worked for the Jax Brewery about 1½ months prior to the time of the +he had worked for the Jax Brewery about 1½ months prior to the time of the interview. Did you make any check with the Jax Brewing Co. to determine whether or not this was a true statement?</p> @@ -8466,7 +8427,7 @@ to his attention, why, he is free to do that.</p> <p>Where do you live, Mr. Lee?</p> -<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Lee</span>. 37½ St. Mark's Place, New York City.</p> +<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Lee</span>. 37½ St. Mark's Place, New York City.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Rankin</span>. You are entitled under the rules of the Commission to 3 days' notice, and I assume since you are here you are willing to waive that and go @@ -9099,7 +9060,7 @@ in Dallas?</p> a member and who wouldn't be a member. I know we received many communications requesting literature of various types and things like that from all over the country, and I don't know of any state of the union which has not been -sent some material at some time during the 3½-year history of the organization. +sent some material at some time during the 3½-year history of the organization. I would assume that somewhere, at some time, in Texas some people wrote in and received something, some communication, but as far as doing anything particularly about Dallas, no. The only thing I know about Dallas is what I @@ -14355,7 +14316,7 @@ high school education.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. All right.</p> -<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Statman</span>. Then, he had 2½ months of electronic fundamentals, 2½ months +<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Statman</span>. Then, he had 2½ months of electronic fundamentals, 2½ months radar operator.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. Does he have some dates?</p> @@ -15944,7 +15905,7 @@ if we may.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. Did you organize the company?</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Stovall</span>. No; this is the second generation of the company. The original -founders disposed of their holdings about 3½ years ago.</p> +founders disposed of their holdings about 3½ years ago.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. Disposed of them to you and your family?</p> @@ -16346,7 +16307,7 @@ lack of productive ability, <span class="locked">that——</span></p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. Would you elaborate on that, please?</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Stovall</span>. We would ask him to reduce a line to 4 inches in width, that -happened to be 6, and he might make it 4¼ or 3-<span class="smaller">7/8</span>, and this was a loss in labor +happened to be 6, and he might make it 4¼ or 3-<span class="smaller">7/8</span>, and this was a loss in labor and materials both, and it had to be redone.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. Did this occur with greater frequency than you thought—than @@ -17587,7 +17548,7 @@ the—from distortion photographing?</p> up to this point may have been 2 or 3 months, at any rate. It was at this time that we began, or he began to make a few mistakes on sizing. He would take a job back and it might be that his orders were to make it 4 inches wide and -when the final print came up it might be 4¼ inches wide or 4-<span class="smaller">1/8</span> inches wide +when the final print came up it might be 4¼ inches wide or 4-<span class="smaller">1/8</span> inches wide and this would have to be done over.</p> <p><span class="pagenum"><a name="Page_187" id="Page_187">187</a></span> @@ -20219,7 +20180,7 @@ He said yes. So he asked me, said, "Well, can I help you?" I said, "No, what I am doing I don't need no help." So he stood there a few minutes, and all of a sudden he said, "You like it here?" I said, "What do you mean?" He says, "Do you like it here?" I says, "Well, sure I like it here. I have been here a -long time, about 8½ years or so." He says, "Oh, Hell, I don't mean this place." +long time, about 8½ years or so." He says, "Oh, Hell, I don't mean this place." I said, "Well, what do you mean?" He says, "This damn country." I said, "Why, certainly, I love it. After all, this is my country." He turned around and walked off. He didn't say any more. And then after that a lot of times @@ -20920,8 +20881,8 @@ together?</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Liebeler</span>. Both?</p> -<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Alba</span>. I took approximately 4 to 4½ inches off of the barrel, and I think -it was left with a 22½-inch barrel, and it had approximately a 28- or a 29-inch +<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Alba</span>. I took approximately 4 to 4½ inches off of the barrel, and I think +it was left with a 22½-inch barrel, and it had approximately a 28- or a 29-inch barrel to start off with.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Liebeler</span>. When you fastened the barrel to the stock, can you tell us approximately @@ -31125,7 +31086,7 @@ and I'm 8 blocks due south.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. Mrs. Paine has testified with respect to attempting to teach Lee Oswald to drive an automobile, and that she went to a supermarket area, which she said was approximately 8 blocks from her home—it took her about 4 minutes, -4½ minutes or 5 minutes to drive there—4 minutes, I guess.</p> +4½ minutes or 5 minutes to drive there—4 minutes, I guess.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Hutchison</span>. I don't believe she could teach on my driveway because my driveway is three-way parking, and I don't have a lot to where she could turn, @@ -31324,7 +31285,7 @@ whom?</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. All right. Would you describe, as best you can, your present recollection of what this man looked like?</p> -<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Hutchison</span>. Yes. He was—uh—around 5 foot 10 or 10½; he had a very, +<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Hutchison</span>. Yes. He was—uh—around 5 foot 10 or 10½; he had a very, I would say—impressive look about him. It was always, to me, uh—to her—at that time it was a glare. He was glaring at her. And, of course, when anyone glares, their facial expressions tighten up and you just naturally observe @@ -31409,7 +31370,7 @@ on a coat. She had on a—not a heavy coat but <span class="locked">a— <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. How tall was she?</p> -<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Hutchison</span>. I would say she was around 5 foot 2½ or 3.</p> +<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Hutchison</span>. I would say she was around 5 foot 2½ or 3.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. Do you recall the color of her hair?</p> @@ -31614,7 +31575,7 @@ and maybe about the same height as the lady.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. What was your judgment as to the young lady's height?</p> -<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Hutchison</span>. I would say 5 feet 2½ or 3.</p> +<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Hutchison</span>. I would say 5 feet 2½ or 3.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. Relatively short?</p> @@ -33056,7 +33017,7 @@ an "X" seems somewhat taller than the man you recall as having seen at the door of your office prior to November 22, 1963. Is that correct, sir?</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Pizzo</span>. That's correct—about 5 feet 8 inches, something like that, what I -recall—or maybe 5 feet 8½ inches. Bogard is pretty tall and it seemed like the +recall—or maybe 5 feet 8½ inches. Bogard is pretty tall and it seemed like the fellow was a lot shorter than he was.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. And that's what led you to put the marker over the head of the @@ -33211,7 +33172,7 @@ Mr. Pizzo, off the record.)</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. Back on the record. You recall him as being more in the neighborhood of what—5 feet 8 inches, 5 feet 7 inches, more or less, or more or less?</p> -<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Pizzo</span>. Between 5 feet 7 inches and 5 foot 8½ inches with sort of a round +<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Pizzo</span>. Between 5 feet 7 inches and 5 foot 8½ inches with sort of a round forehead and that <span class="sym">V</span> shape is the thing that I remember the most.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Jenner</span>. A widow's peak?</p> @@ -34301,7 +34262,7 @@ of scopes on there.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Liebeler</span>. The size of this scope is measured in terms of power?</p> -<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Davis</span>. Yes. There is 2, 2½, 4, 6, and on up. And he knows the sizes, +<p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Davis</span>. Yes. There is 2, 2½, 4, 6, and on up. And he knows the sizes, what he was talking about, but I don't know.</p> <p>Mr. <span class="smcap">Liebeler</span>. 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