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diff --git a/41421-h/41421-h.htm b/41421-h/41421-h.htm index f655340..94cd66b 100644 --- a/41421-h/41421-h.htm +++ b/41421-h/41421-h.htm @@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> - <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=iso-8859-1" /> + <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" /> <title> The Project Gutenberg eBook of The Protestants Plea For A Socinian, by Abraham Woodhead @@ -90,47 +90,7 @@ </style> </head> <body> - - -<pre> - -Project Gutenberg's The Protestants Plea for a Socinian, by Abraham Woodhead - -This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere at no cost and with -almost no restrictions whatsoever. You may copy it, give it away or -re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License included -with this eBook or online at www.gutenberg.org - - -Title: The Protestants Plea for a Socinian - Justifying His Doctrine from Being Opposite to Scripture - or Church Authority; and Him from Being Guilty of Heresie, - or Schism - -Author: Abraham Woodhead - -Release Date: November 21, 2012 [EBook #41421] - -Language: English - -Character set encoding: ISO-8859-1 - -*** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK PROTESTANTS PLEA FOR SOCINIAN *** - - - - -Produced by Colin Bell, Chris Pinfield, Joseph Cooper and -the Online Distributed Proofreading Team at -http://www.pgdp.net - - - - - - -</pre> - +<div>*** START OF THE PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK 41421 ***</div> <div class="tnote"> @@ -227,25 +187,25 @@ holding any thing contrary to the <i>Holy Scriptures</i>.</p> <ol> <li><i>That he believes all contained in the Scriptures to be God's Word; and therefore implicitly believes those truths, against which - he errs.</i> §. <a href="#S_2">2</a>.</li> + he errs.</i> §. <a href="#S_2">2</a>.</li> <li><i>That also he useth his best endeavor to find the true sense of Scriptures: and, that more is not required of him from God for his Faith or Salvation, than doing his best endeavour for attaining - it.</i> §. <a href="#S_3">3</a>.</li> + it.</i> §. <a href="#S_3">3</a>.</li> <li><i>That, as for an explicite Faith required of some points necessary, he is sufficiently assured, that this point concerning the Son's Consubstantiality with the Father, as to the affirmative, is not so from the Protestant's affirming all necessaries to be clear in Scripture, even to the unlearned; which this, in the - affirmative, is not to him.</i> §. <a href="#S_4">4</a>.</li> + affirmative, is not to him.</i> §. <a href="#S_4">4</a>.</li> <li><i>That several express, and plain Scriptures do perswade him, that the negative (if either) is necessary to be believed; and that from the clearness of Scriptures, he hath as much certainty in this point, as Protestants can have from them in some other, held against - the common expressions of the former times of the Church.</i> §. <a + the common expressions of the former times of the Church.</i> §. <a href="#S_6">6</a>, <a href="#S_8">8</a>.</li> <li><i>That, for the right understanding of Scriptures, either he @@ -260,7 +220,7 @@ holding any thing contrary to the <i>Holy Scriptures</i>.</p> Scripture, than the</i> Socinians, <i>as appears by their Writings, addicting themselves wholly to this Word of God, and not suffering themselves to be any way bypass'd by any other humane, either - modern, or ancient Authority.</i> §. <a href="#S_9">9</a>.</li> + modern, or ancient Authority.</i> §. <a href="#S_9">9</a>.</li> </ol> <br /> @@ -292,13 +252,13 @@ holding any thing contrary to the <i>Holy Scriptures</i>.</p> <tr> <td></td> <td>{</td> - <td><i>Church is examined</i>. §. <a href="#S_9">9</a>.</td> + <td><i>Church is examined</i>. §. <a href="#S_9">9</a>.</td> </tr> </table> </div> -<h3>§. 1.</h3> +<h3>§. 1.</h3> <p class="cap">TO shew the invalidity of such a Guide as Protestants have framed to themselves for preserving the true Faith, and @@ -333,7 +293,7 @@ believe, with other Christians, that the Scriptures are the Word of God; and, with other Protestants, that they are a perfect <i>Rule</i> of my faith.</p> -<h3><a name="S_2" id="S_2">§. 2.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_2" id="S_2">§. 2.</a></h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> But, this secures you not, unless you believe according to this <i>Rule</i>; which in this point, you do not.</p> @@ -365,7 +325,7 @@ then you, not believing the true sense of some part of it at least, may also not believe the true sense of something <i>necessary</i> there; which is quite contrary to your conclusion here.</p> -<h3><a name="S_3" id="S_3">§. 3.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_3" id="S_3">§. 3.</a></h3> <p><i>Soc.</i> <a name="R_3" id="R_3" href="#N_3" class="nanchor">[3]</a>——<i>I @@ -401,7 +361,7 @@ errors, who am a lover of him, and lover of truth, is to rob man of his comfort, and God of his goodness; is to make man desperate, and God a Tyrant.</i></p> -<h3><a name="S_4" id="S_4">§. 4.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_4" id="S_4">§. 4.</a></h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> But this defence will no way serve your turn for all points of Faith revealed in Scripture: for you ought to have of some @@ -417,7 +377,7 @@ with God the Father</i> be none of the <i>Fundamentals</i>, and necessaries, wherein I am to have a right and an explicite Faith, the account I have given you already, I hope, is satisfactory.</p> -<h3>§. 5.</h3> +<h3>§. 5.</h3> <p>But next: I am secure, that this point, which is the subject of our discourse, at least in the affirmative thereof, is no fundamental; @@ -451,7 +411,7 @@ after all this, the sense of Scripture also, which I embrace, (a sense, you know, decried and persecuted by most Christians) is very contrary to all my secular relations, interest, and profit.</p> -<h3><a name="S_6" id="S_6">§. 6.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_6" id="S_6">§. 6.</a></h3> <p>Now, after all this search I have used, I am so far satisfied, that this point, on the affirmative side, is not clear, and @@ -461,14 +421,14 @@ can produce most clear and evident places out of the Scriptures its Expressions) that the contrary of it is so.</p> <p>[See <i>Crellius</i> in the Preface to his Book <i>De uno Deo -Patre</i>,——<i>Hæc de uno Deo Patre sententia</i> +Patre</i>,——<i>Hæc de uno Deo Patre sententia</i> plurimis, <i>ac</i> clarissimis <i>sacrarum literarum testimoniis -nititur</i>——Evidens <i>sententiæ veritas, & -rationum</i> firmissimarum <i>è sacris literis spontè +nititur</i>——Evidens <i>sententiæ veritas, & +rationum</i> firmissimarum <i>è sacris literis spontè subnascentium</i> multitudo, <i>ingenii nostri tenuitatem sublevat, -&c.</i>——<i>Argumenta, quæ ex sacris literis +&c.</i>——<i>Argumenta, quæ ex sacris literis deprompsimus, per se</i> plana <i>sunt, ac</i> facilia <i>adeo quidem, -ut eorum vim declinare aliâ ratione non possint adversarii, quam ut â +ut eorum vim declinare aliâ ratione non possint adversarii, quam ut â verborum simplicitate tum ipsi deflectant, tum nos abducere conentur.</i> And see the particular places of Scripture which they urge (where, as to the expression, and other Texts being laid aside, @@ -478,7 +438,7 @@ Socinians maintain), <i>Joh.</i> 14. 28. 17. 3. <i>Ep.</i> 1 Rev.</i> 3. 14. I set not down this to countenance their Cause, but to shew their Confidence.]</p> -<h3>§. 7.</h3> +<h3>§. 7.</h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> O strange Presumption! And is not your judgment, then, liable to mistake in the true sense of these Scriptures, because you @@ -586,7 +546,7 @@ do acknowledge, 1. That there is but one numerical most high God, an inseparable attribute of whom is his Creating of the world, and preexistence before it. And again; 2. That the substance or essence of this most high God, is not any way divisible, partible or -multipliable; so that, <i>Si Christus ex Dei substantiâ generatus fuit, +multipliable; so that, <i>Si Christus ex Dei substantiâ generatus fuit, tota ei Patris substantia, eadem numero, communicata fuit.</i> See <i>Volkel. de vera Rel. l.</i> 5. <i>c.</i> 12. upon which consequence well discerned, your predecessors were constrained to desert Arianism, or @@ -668,7 +628,7 @@ amiss, he alone shall suffer for it.</i> To God's righteous Judgment therefore I must finally remit you. At your own peril be it. This, of the Socinian's Plea concerning the Scripture on his side.</p> -<h3><a name="S_9" id="S_9">§. 9.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_9" id="S_9">§. 9.</a></h3> <p>Where the self-clearness of the sense of Scriptures, not mistakable in Fundamentals, or necessaries, upon a due industry used (of which @@ -678,7 +638,7 @@ these two proceed to any further conference, give me leave, to interpose a word between them, concerning this certainty so much spoken of, and presumed on.</p> -<h3>§. 10.</h3> +<h3>§. 10.</h3> <p>And here first, from this way, lately taken by many Protestants, there seems to be something necessarily consequent, which I suppose they @@ -729,7 +689,7 @@ yet in the same thing may be certain, that he doth not err, if not neglecting some means, which he knows will certainly keep him from error.</p> -<h3>§. 11.</h3> +<h3>§. 11.</h3> <p>2. But notwithstanding these: This seems also necessary to be granted on the other side (and is so by learned Protestants,) That in what @@ -751,18 +711,18 @@ communicated to them; and * whenas, for my own mistakes, I cannot know exactly the extent of supernatural delusions. I say, be this in what knowledge we please; in that of sense, <i>seeing</i>, <i>hearing</i>, <i>numbring</i>, or in any of Mr. <i>Chillingworth's</i> former instances -mentioned, §. 7. So, I can never rationally assure my self of what I +mentioned, §. 7. So, I can never rationally assure my self of what I see, when men, as well or better sighted, and all external circumstances for any thing I know being the same, see no such matter. And this is the Rule also proposed by learned Protestants to keep every Fanatick from pleading certainty in his own conceit. See -Arch-Bishop <i>Laud</i> (§. 33. Consid. 5. n. 1.)——and <i>Hooker</i> -(Preface §. 6.) their designing of a clear evidence, or demonstrative +Arch-Bishop <i>Laud</i> (§. 33. Consid. 5. n. 1.)——and <i>Hooker</i> +(Preface §. 6.) their designing of a clear evidence, or demonstrative argument, <i>viz.</i> <i>Such as proposed to</i> any man, <i>and understood, the mind cannot chuse but inwardly assent to it</i>; and therefore, surely, proposed to many men, the mind of the most cannot dissent from it.</p> -<h3>§. 12.</h3> +<h3>§. 12.</h3> <p>Consequently, in the Scripture; abstracting from the inward operations of God's Holy Spirit, and any external infallible Guide, (which @@ -899,21 +859,21 @@ far as this can justly oblige.</i></p> <li><i>That an unanimous Consent of the</i> whole <i>Catholick Church in all ages, such as the Protestants require for the proving of a point of faith to be necessary, can never be shewed, concerning - this point of</i> Consubstantiality. §. <a href="#S_14">14</a>. + this point of</i> Consubstantiality. §. <a href="#S_14">14</a>. <br /> <i>And that the consent, to such a doctrine of the</i> major part <i>is no argument sufficient, since the Protestants deny the like - consent valid for several other points.</i> §. <a href="#S_14">14</a>.</li> + consent valid for several other points.</i> §. <a href="#S_14">14</a>.</li> <li><i>That supposing an unanimous consent of the Church Catholick of all ages in this point, yet from hence a Christian hath no security of the truth thereof according to Protestant Principles, if this point, (whether way soever held) be a non-necessary; for that in such, it is said the</i> whole <i>Church - may err.</i> §. <a href="#S_15">15</a>.</li> + may err.</i> §. <a href="#S_15">15</a>.</li> <li><i>That this Article's being in the affirmative, put in the - Creed proves it not (as to the affirmative) a Necessary.</i> §. <a + Creed proves it not (as to the affirmative) a Necessary.</i> §. <a href="#S_16">16</a>. <ol> <li><i>Because not originally in the Creed, but added by a @@ -922,7 +882,7 @@ far as this can justly oblige.</i></p> Council.</i></li> <li><i>Because several Articles of the latter Creeds are affirmed by Protestants not necessary to be believed, but upon a previous - conviction, that they are divine revelation.</i> §. <a + conviction, that they are divine revelation.</i> §. <a href="#S_16">16</a>.</li> </ol> </li> @@ -932,12 +892,12 @@ far as this can justly oblige.</i></p> resign his judgment to her's, except conditionally, and with this reservation, unless on the other side, there appear evidence to him in God's Word. Now, of the evidence of Scripture in this point on - his side, that he hath no doubt.</i> §. <a href="#S_17">17</a>.</li> + his side, that he hath no doubt.</i> §. <a href="#S_17">17</a>.</li> </ol> </div> -<h3><br /><a name="S_13" id="S_13">§. 13.</a></h3> +<h3><br /><a name="S_13" id="S_13">§. 13.</a></h3> <p class="cap">NOw to resume the <i>Conference</i>. The <i>Protestant</i>, better thinking on it, will not leave the Socinian @@ -975,7 +935,7 @@ name="R_27" id="R_27" href="#N_27" class="nanchor">[27]</a>. Now, no such unanimous consent can be pretended for the forementioned <i>Consubstantiality</i>. For, not to speak of the times next following the Council of <i>Nice</i>, nor yet of several expressions in the Ancients, -<i>Justin Martyr</i>, <i>Irenæus</i>, <i>Tertullian</i>, <i>Clemens Alexandrinus</i>, +<i>Justin Martyr</i>, <i>Irenæus</i>, <i>Tertullian</i>, <i>Clemens Alexandrinus</i>, <i>Origen</i>, that seem to favour our opinion<a name="R_28" id="R_28" href="#N_28" class="nanchor">[28]</a>: Nor, of those Eastern Bishops, which <i>Arrius</i>, in his Letter to <i>Eusebius @@ -989,7 +949,7 @@ title="homousios">ὁμούσιος</span>; and in the Council also Seventeen, (some of note) at first to have dissented from the rest.</p> -<h3><a name="S_14" id="S_14">§. 14.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_14" id="S_14">§. 14.</a></h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> Not yeilding what you say for truth; but for the present, supposing it; yet the Judgment of so <i>small</i> a @@ -1023,7 +983,7 @@ this point of <i>Consubstantiality</i> is to be numbred among <i>necessaries</i>, before I can be assured, that the sense of the Church Catholick errs not therein.</p> -<h3><a name="S_15" id="S_15">§. 15.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_15" id="S_15">§. 15.</a></h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> But <a name="R_34" id="R_34" href="#N_34" class="nanchor">[34]</a><i>It is a sufficient prescription against @@ -1049,7 +1009,7 @@ carries, and secures you no further; and then that which you say is no great matter: For, here we are still to seek, whether the point we discourse of is in the affirmative such a <i>necessary</i>.</p> -<h3><a name="S_16" id="S_16">§. 16.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_16" id="S_16">§. 16.</a></h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> But this is ranked among those points which the Church hath put in her Creeds.</p> @@ -1062,7 +1022,7 @@ class="nanchor">[36]</a><i>Necessary so, as to be believed by any before a clear conviction of the divine Revelation thereof</i>: which conviction I yet want.</p> -<h3><a name="S_17" id="S_17">§. 17.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_17" id="S_17">§. 17.</a></h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> But yet, though, first the Catholick Church may err in <i>non-necessaries</i>; And 2ly. in what points are <i>necessary</i>, @@ -1116,13 +1076,13 @@ class="label">[25]</a><i>Stillingfl. p.</i> 58, 59.</p> class="label">[26]</a><i>Stillingfl. p.</i> 72.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_27" id="N_27" href="#R_27" -class="label">[27]</a>See before <i>Dis.</i> 3. §. 52.</p> +class="label">[27]</a>See before <i>Dis.</i> 3. §. 52.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_28" id="N_28" href="#R_28" -class="label">[28]</a><i>See Petavius in Epipha. Hær.</i> 69.</p> +class="label">[28]</a><i>See Petavius in Epipha. Hær.</i> 69.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_29" id="N_29" href="#R_29" -class="label">[29]</a><i>Apud Epipha. Hær.</i> 69.—<i>Theodor. +class="label">[29]</a><i>Apud Epipha. Hær.</i> 69.—<i>Theodor. l.</i> 1. <i>c.</i> 5.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_30" id="N_30" href="#R_30" @@ -1198,24 +1158,24 @@ of</i> Nice.</p> <li><i>All these exceptions cancelled, and Obedience granted due to this Council; yet, that so, there is due to it not that of</i> - assent, <i>but only of</i> silence. §. <a href="#S_19">19</a>.</li> + assent, <i>but only of</i> silence. §. <a href="#S_19">19</a>.</li> <li><i>But yet not that of silence neither from him; considering his present perswasion, that indeed the affirmative in this point is an error</i> manifest <i>and</i> intolerable: <i>concerning which matter his party having long complained to their Superiors, and produced sufficient evidence; yet these have proceeded to no redress - of it.</i> §. <a href="#S_20">20</a>.</li> + of it.</i> §. <a href="#S_20">20</a>.</li> <li><i>But yet that he will submit to the Judgment of a future Council, if it, rightly considering the reasons of his tenent, decree that which is according to God's Word, and he be convinced - thereof.</i> §. <a href="#S_22">22</a>.</li> + thereof.</i> §. <a href="#S_22">22</a>.</li> </ol> </div> -<h3><br />§. 18.</h3> +<h3><br />§. 18.</h3> <p class="cap">P<i>Rot.</i> But do you not consider by what persons this Article was long ago inserted into the Creed: Namely, by the @@ -1268,12 +1228,12 @@ obligatory.</i> Thus he. But I suppose its Decrees obligatory then only to those parts of the Church that voluntarily consent to accept of them, as the <i>Arians</i> did not to receive the <i>Decrees</i> of <i>Nice</i>. Lastly, by * Bishop <i>Taylor</i> in the 2d. Part of his <i>Disswasive</i>, <i>l.</i> -1. §. 1. p. 29. <i>&c.</i> to the end of the Section. Where p. 31. he +1. §. 1. p. 29. <i>&c.</i> to the end of the Section. Where p. 31. he saith concerning this of <i>Nice</i>, that makes for you, compared with that of <i>Ariminum</i>, which makes for us——<i>That if a Catholick producing the Nicene Council be rencountred by an Arian producing the Council of</i> Ariminium <i>which was far more numerous, here -are</i> aquilis aquilæ & pila minantia pilis: <i>but who shall prevail? +are</i> aquilis aquilæ & pila minantia pilis: <i>but who shall prevail? If a General Council be the rule and guide, they will both prevail, that is, neither. And it ought not to be said by the Catholick; Yea, but our Council determined for the truth; but yours for error: For, @@ -1282,7 +1242,7 @@ plain that they may both say so: and if they do, then we do not find the truth out by the conduct and decision of a General Council; but we approve this General, because upon other accounts we believe that what is there defined is true. And therefore</i> S. Austin's <i>way here is -best</i>, Neque ego Nicænum Concilium, neque tu Ariminense, <i>&c. +best</i>, Neque ego Nicænum Concilium, neque tu Ariminense, <i>&c. both sides pretend to General Councils: that which both equally pretend to, will help neither; therefore let us go to Scripture.</i> And <i>p.</i> 32.——<i>What is the reason</i> (saith he of Councils in @@ -1386,7 +1346,7 @@ Council, and give there a consentient, or attesting, but not a decisive Vote: which neither did the Emperors claim, when they presided therein. <i>See Dr. Field of the Church, p.</i> 646.</p> -<h3><a name="S_19" id="S_19">§. 19.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_19" id="S_19">§. 19.</a></h3> <p><i>Soc.</i> But I have not yet said all. For Fifthly, Were there none of the forenamed defects in it, <a name="R_48" id="R_48" @@ -1419,7 +1379,7 @@ it in some other sort than by the bare Determination of the Council.</i> Till I am convinced then of my Error, the Obedience of <i>Silence</i> is the most that can be required of me.</p> -<h3><a name="S_20" id="S_20">§. 20.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_20" id="S_20">§. 20.</a></h3> <p>But sixthly, I conceive my self in this point not obliged to this neither; considering my present persuasion, that this Council @@ -1432,7 +1392,7 @@ I conceive I have a lawful Commission from an <i>higher Authority</i>, to publish this great Truth of <i>God</i>, and to contradict the <i>Councils</i> Decree.</p> -<h3>§. 21.</h3> +<h3>§. 21.</h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> But you may easily mistake that for <i>evident Scripture</i>, and those for <i>Demonstrations</i>, that are not. Concerning which you know @@ -1501,7 +1461,7 @@ id="R_56" href="#N_56" class="nanchor">[56]</a> is frequently quoted by them, saying——<i>That past General Councils erring, may be corrected by other Councils following</i>.</p> -<h3><a name="S_22" id="S_22">§. 22.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_22" id="S_22">§. 22.</a></h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> But I pray you consider, if that famous Council of <i>Nice</i> hath so erred, another Council called, may it also not @@ -1561,29 +1521,29 @@ and <i>contumacy</i> in me, after the Councils contrary <i>Definition</i>.</p> class="label">[41]</a><i>p.</i> 515, 516.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_42" id="N_42" href="#R_42" -class="label">[42]</a><i>See before</i>, §. <a href="#S_13">13</a>.</p> +class="label">[42]</a><i>See before</i>, §. <a href="#S_13">13</a>.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_43" id="N_43" href="#R_43" -class="label">[43]</a>§. <a href="#S_13">13</a>.</p> +class="label">[43]</a>§. <a href="#S_13">13</a>.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_44" id="N_44" href="#R_44" class="label">[44]</a><i>See Baronius.</i> A. D. 318, 319.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_45" id="N_45" href="#R_45" -class="label">[45]</a>§. 478.</p> +class="label">[45]</a>§. 478.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_46" id="N_46" href="#R_46" class="label">[46]</a><i>p.</i> 60.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_47" id="N_47" href="#R_47" -class="label">[47]</a><i>Ib.</i> §. 10.</p> +class="label">[47]</a><i>Ib.</i> §. 10.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_48" id="N_48" href="#R_48" class="label">[48]</a><i>Whitby</i>, <i>p.</i> 15. <i>Stillingfleet</i>, <i>p.</i> 506, 537.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_49" id="N_49" href="#R_49" -class="label">[49]</a>§. 32. <i>n.</i> 5. & §. 33. <i>consid.</i> +class="label">[49]</a>§. 32. <i>n.</i> 5. & §. 33. <i>consid.</i> 5. <i>n.</i> 1.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_50" id="N_50" href="#R_50" @@ -1603,7 +1563,7 @@ class="label">[53]</a><i>Id.</i> <i>p.</i> 227.</p> class="label">[54]</a><i>Stillingfl. p.</i> 479, 292.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_55" id="N_55" href="#R_55" -class="label">[55]</a><i>See before, Disc</i>. 3. §. 34, +class="label">[55]</a><i>See before, Disc</i>. 3. §. 34, <i>&c.</i></p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_56" id="N_56" href="#R_56" @@ -1639,7 +1599,7 @@ Heresie, <i>for several reasons.</i></p> <i>defence of some error against a fundamental, he thinks from hence his tenent freed from being an Heresie, as long as in silence he retains it, unless he engage further, to a publick pertinacious - maintaining thereof.</i> §. <a href="#S_23">23</a>.</li> + maintaining thereof.</i> §. <a href="#S_23">23</a>.</li> <li><i>Fundamentals varying according to particular persons, and sufficient proposal; none can conclude this point in the @@ -1649,7 +1609,7 @@ Heresie, <i>for several reasons.</i></p> <li><i>That a lawful General Council's declaring some point Heresie, doth not necessarily argue that it is so; because they may err in Fundamentals; or at least in distinguishing them from other - points.</i> §. <a href="#S_26">26</a>.</li> + points.</i> §. <a href="#S_26">26</a>.</li> <li><i>That he can have no autocatacrisie or obstinacy in a dissenting from their Definitions, till he is either actually @@ -1664,7 +1624,7 @@ Heresie, <i>for several reasons.</i></p> </div> -<h3><br /><a name="S_23" id="S_23">§. 23.</a></h3> +<h3><br /><a name="S_23" id="S_23">§. 23.</a></h3> <p class="cap">P<i>Rot.</i> You know that all <i>Hereticks</i> are most justly <i>anathematized</i>, and cut off from being any longer Members of @@ -1707,7 +1667,7 @@ but rather of the contrary, it is no <i>Fundamental</i>, and consequently, my tenent opposing it, if an <i>error</i>, yet no <i>Heresie</i>.</p> -<h3>§. 24.</h3> +<h3>§. 24.</h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> Do not deceive your self; for though according to different revelations, to those that were without Law, or those under @@ -1736,7 +1696,7 @@ the Faith, must of necessity also teach me what is Heresie: That which is streight will plainly teach us what is crooked; and one contrary cannot but manifest the other.</i></p> -<h3>§. 25.</h3> +<h3>§. 25.</h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> I pray you consider a little better what you said last; for since Heresie as you grant it, is an obstinate defence of error only @@ -1818,12 +1778,12 @@ hamartanei">εξέστραπται <i>his being perverted, and sinning wilfully, and without excuse.</i> What say you to this?</p> -<h3><a name="S_26" id="S_26">§. 26.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_26" id="S_26">§. 26.</a></h3> <p><i>Soc.</i> What these Authors say, as you give their sense, seems to me contrary to the <i>Protestant</i> Principles, [<i>See D.</i> Potter, <i>p.</i> 165, -167.——<i>D.</i> Hammond <i>of Heresie</i>, §. 7. -<i>n.</i>——§. 9. <i>n.</i> 8. <i>Def. of L. Falkl. c.</i> 1. <i>p.</i> 23.] +167.——<i>D.</i> Hammond <i>of Heresie</i>, §. 7. +<i>n.</i>——§. 9. <i>n.</i> 8. <i>Def. of L. Falkl. c.</i> 1. <i>p.</i> 23.] and to their own positions elsewhere; neither, surely, will <i>Protestants</i> tye themselves to this measure and trial of <i>autocatacrisie</i>. For, since they say; That lawful General Councils @@ -1965,7 +1925,7 @@ from finding a <i>non actual conviction</i> of the truth, within, (hindred there by I know not what supine negligence, or strong self-conceit, <i>&c.</i>) you gather a <i>non-sufficient proposal</i>, without.</p> -<h3>§ 27.</h3> +<h3>§ 27.</h3> <p><i>Soc.</i> It remains then to enquire, who shall judge concerning this <i>sufficient proposal</i>, or sufficient reason, which I am said @@ -2090,16 +2050,16 @@ class="label">[80]</a><i>See Still. p.</i> 479.</p> of it that was corrupted; and reformed another part,</i> (i.e.) <i>themselves. Or, that he, and the Socinian Churches, being a part of the Catholick, they have not separated from the whole, because - not from themselves.</i> §. <a href="#S_28">28</a>.</li> + not from themselves.</i> §. <a href="#S_28">28</a>.</li> <li><i>That their separation being for an error unjustly imposed upon them as a condition of Communion, the Schism is not theirs, who - made the separation; but theirs who caused it.</i> §. <a href="#S_29">29</a>. + made the separation; but theirs who caused it.</i> §. <a href="#S_29">29</a>. <br /> <i>Besides that, whatever the truth of things be; yet so long as they are required by any Church to profess they believe, what they do not, their separation cannot be said causless, and so Schism.</i> - §. <a href="#S_32">32</a>.</li> + §. <a href="#S_32">32</a>.</li> <li><i>That though he and his party had forsaken the external Communion of all other Churches, yet not the internal; in which they @@ -2107,30 +2067,30 @@ class="label">[80]</a><i>See Still. p.</i> 479.</p> Charity, <i>in not condemning all other Churches as non-Catholick; and in that of</i> Faith, <i>in all Essentials and Fundamentals, and in all such points, wherein the Unity of the Church Catholick - consists.</i> §. <a href="#S_30">30</a>.</li> + consists.</i> §. <a href="#S_30">30</a>.</li> <li><i>That the doctrin of</i> Consubstantiality <i>for which they departed, is denyed by them to be any Fundamental; nor can the Churches, from which they depart for it, be a competent Judge - against them, that it is so.</i> §. <a href="#S_34">34</a>.</li> + against them, that it is so.</i> §. <a href="#S_34">34</a>.</li> <li><i>That, though they are separaters from the Roman, yet not from the Reformed Churches, which Churches leave men to the liberty of their own judgment; nor require any internal assent to their doctrins (in which thing these blame the tyranny of the Roman</i> Church) <i>save only conditional, if any be convinced of the truth thereof; or, not - convinced of the contrary.</i> §. <a href="#S_35">35</a>.</li> + convinced of the contrary.</i> §. <a href="#S_35">35</a>.</li> <li><i>In fine, that for enjoying and continuing in the Protestant</i> Communion <i>he maketh as full a profession of conformity to her Doctrins as</i> Mr. Chillingworth <i>hath done in several places of his book, which yet was accepted as - sufficient.</i> §. <a href="#S_41">41</a>.</li> + sufficient.</i> §. <a href="#S_41">41</a>.</li> </ol> </div> -<h3><br /><a name="S_28" id="S_28">§. 28.</a></h3> +<h3><br /><a name="S_28" id="S_28">§. 28.</a></h3> <p class="cap">P<i>Rot.</i> I have yet one thing more, about which to question you. If you will not acknowledge your opinion <i>Heresie</i> @@ -2164,7 +2124,7 @@ no more separate from the whole, than from our selves.</i></p> the <i>Church Catholick</i> till a part can divide from it self, which can never be.</p> -<h3><a name="S_29" id="S_29">§. 29.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_29" id="S_29">§. 29.</a></h3> <p><i>Soc.</i> Next, As for our separating from all other particular Churches, the ground of our Separation being an error, which hath crept into the @@ -2176,7 +2136,7 @@ is theirs, whose the Cause of it is; and he makes the separation, who gives the first just cause of it, not he that makes actual separation, upon a just cause preceding.</i></p> -<h3><a name="S_30" id="S_30">§. 30.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_30" id="S_30">§. 30.</a></h3> <p>Again, Though we have made an actual Separation from them, as to the not-conforming to, or also as to the reforming of an error: yet, @@ -2187,7 +2147,7 @@ of the Catholick Church, and drawing the Communion wholly to our selves, as did those famous Schismaticks, the Donatists.</i> [See Doctor <i>Ferne Division of Churches</i>, p. 105. and 31, 32.]</p> -<h3>§. 31.</h3> +<h3>§. 31.</h3> <p>Next, <i>as to matter of Faith</i>: We hold that all separation from all particular Churches in such a thing, wherein the <i>unity</i> @@ -2221,7 +2181,7 @@ with all the Orthodox members of the Catholick Church, but even with that corrupted Church, from which it is separated, except only in such Corruptions.</i></p> -<h3><a name="S_32" id="S_32">§. 32.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_32" id="S_32">§. 32.</a></h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> Saving better Judgments, methinks a separation (if causeless) from the Communion of all other Churches, or from those who are our @@ -2263,7 +2223,7 @@ seems <i>true, and the contrary, which I have forsaken,</i> seems that, but this I cannot: and a separation, for preserving my Conscience, I hope will never be judged causeless.</i></p> -<h3>§. 33.</h3> +<h3>§. 33.</h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> At this rate none will be a Schismatick, but he who knows he erreth (<i>i. e.</i> not who holdeth, but only who professeth @@ -2288,7 +2248,7 @@ in Scripture so clear, that none using a right industry, can (neither) err in them; which no <i>Chillingworth</i> hath maintained hitherto.</p> -<h3><a name="S_34" id="S_34">§. 34.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_34" id="S_34">§. 34.</a></h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> But we may let this pass; for, your separation was in a point perspicuous enough in Scripture (and so you void of such @@ -2340,7 +2300,7 @@ of his separation is just.</p> of separation at all, if the Church-Governors, from whom I separate, are to judge, whether that be an error, for which I separate.</p> -<h3><a name="S_35" id="S_35">§. 35.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_35" id="S_35">§. 35.</a></h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> It seems something that you say: But yet, though upon such consideration, a free use of your own <i>judgment</i>, as to @@ -2449,7 +2409,7 @@ much contest, or with as much reason, they may call whatever points they please such, however controverted, and then, what is said here signifies nothing.</p> -<h3>§. 36.</h3> +<h3>§. 36.</h3> <p><i>Prot.</i> Be not mistaken, I pray: especially concerning the Church of <i>England</i>. For though she, for several Points, imposed formerly by the @@ -2486,13 +2446,13 @@ but upon his repentance and abjuration.</i> Now further than this [<i>namely, excommunication upon conviction.</i>] No other Church I suppose hath, or can proceed against your Heresie; It being received as a common Axiom in the Canon law; that <i>Ecclesia non judicat de -occultis</i>,——And——<i>Cogitationis pænam nemo +occultis</i>,——And——<i>Cogitationis pænam nemo patitur.</i>——And——<i>Ob peccatum mere internum Ecclesiastica censura ferri non potest.</i> And in all Churches every one, of what internal perswasion soever, continues externally at least a member thereof, till the Church's censures do exclude him.</p> -<h3>§. 37.</h3> +<h3>§. 37.</h3> <p><i>Soc.</i> The Church of <i>England</i> alloweth, assenteth to, and teacheth, what she judgeth evident in the Scripture; for so she @@ -2555,7 +2515,7 @@ it is in it self necessary; or, that they are divine Revelations, I do most readily yield my Faith, and assent thereto. Now, to make some Reply to the other things you have objected.</p> -<h3>§. 38.</h3> +<h3>§. 38.</h3> <p>The Act 1 <i>Eliz.</i> allows no Definitions of the First General Councils in declaring <i>Heresie</i>, but with this limitation, that, @@ -2563,7 +2523,7 @@ in such Councils, such thing be declared <i>Heresie</i> by the express and plain words of the <i>Canonical Scripture</i>. On which terms I also accept them.</p> -<h3>§. 39.</h3> +<h3>§. 39.</h3> <p>Dr. <i>Hammond</i>'s affirming, <i>That all additions settled by the Universal Church</i> [he means General Councils] <i>are in all @@ -2577,7 +2537,7 @@ the definitions of General Councils, and of the Christian Governors in all ages, as these being still Christ's Successors, are to be without disputing, embraced as truths Apostolical.</p> -<h3>§. 40.</h3> +<h3>§. 40.</h3> <p>If the words of the fourth <i>Canon</i> of the <i>English Synod</i> 1640. signifie any more, than this; That any person <i>convicted</i> @@ -2612,7 +2572,7 @@ person for himself) agree in their sentence? Again, If on the other side, the <i>former Church</i> in her language, <i>Si quis non crediderit, &c. Anathema sit</i>, be affirmed (to which purpose the fore-mentioned Axioms are urged by you) to mean nothing more, than, -<i>Si quis Hæresin suam palam profiteatur, & hujus professionis +<i>Si quis Hæresin suam palam profiteatur, & hujus professionis convictus fuerit, Anathema sit</i>, Thus the Protestants former quarrel with her passing such <i>Anathema's</i> will be concluded causeless and unjust. But indeed, though, (according to the former sentences,) her @@ -2638,7 +2598,7 @@ the Church's Communion. Thus you see a rigor in this Church towards what it once accounted <i>Heresie</i> much different from the more mild Spirit, and moderate temper of the <i>Reformed</i>.</p> -<h3><a name="S_41" id="S_41">§. 41.</a></h3> +<h3><a name="S_41" id="S_41">§. 41.</a></h3> <p>To conclude. For the enjoying the <i>Protestant</i> Communion, I conceive that, as to any necessary approbation of her Doctrins, it is @@ -2764,17 +2724,17 @@ class="label">[100]</a><i>Can.</i> 4.</p> class="label">[101]</a><i>p.</i> 70, 71.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_102" id="N_102" href="#R_102" -class="label">[102]</a><i>See before</i> §. <a +class="label">[102]</a><i>See before</i> §. <a href="#S_26">26</a>.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_103" id="N_103" href="#R_103" -class="label">[103]</a><i>Chillingw. Pref.</i> §. 39.</p> +class="label">[103]</a><i>Chillingw. Pref.</i> §. 39.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_104" id="N_104" href="#R_104" -class="label">[104]</a><i>Ib.</i> §. 28.</p> +class="label">[104]</a><i>Ib.</i> §. 28.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_105" id="N_105" href="#R_105" -class="label">[105]</a><i>Ib.</i> §. 29.</p> +class="label">[105]</a><i>Ib.</i> §. 29.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_106" id="N_106" href="#R_106" class="label">[106]</a><i>Ibid.</i></p> @@ -2783,7 +2743,7 @@ class="label">[106]</a><i>Ibid.</i></p> class="label">[107]</a><i>Chillingw. p.</i> 376.</p> <p class="nodent"><a name="N_108" id="N_108" href="#R_108" -class="label">[108]</a><i>Ib.</i> §. 57.</p> +class="label">[108]</a><i>Ib.</i> §. 57.</p> </div> @@ -2799,384 +2759,8 @@ class="label">[108]</a><i>Ib.</i> §. 57.</p> <p class="cap">PAge 19. lin. 18. read <i>Emperor</i>. p. 28. l. 1. dele [<i>See more Protestants cited to this purpose</i>, <i>Disc.</i> -3. §. 19.] pag. 31, l. 7. r. <i>there by</i>.<br /><br /></p> - - - - - - - - -<pre> - - - - - -End of the Project Gutenberg EBook of The Protestants Plea for a Socinian, by -Abraham Woodhead - -*** END OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK PROTESTANTS PLEA FOR SOCINIAN *** - -***** This file should be named 41421-h.htm or 41421-h.zip ***** -This and all associated files of various formats will be found in: - http://www.gutenberg.org/4/1/4/2/41421/ - -Produced by Colin Bell, Chris Pinfield, Joseph Cooper and -the Online Distributed Proofreading Team at -http://www.pgdp.net - - -Updated editions will replace the previous one--the old editions -will be renamed. - -Creating the works from public domain print editions means that no -one owns a United States copyright in these works, so the Foundation -(and you!) can copy and distribute it in the United States without -permission and without paying copyright royalties. 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