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-The Project Gutenberg EBook of Notes and Queries, Vol. V, Number 114,
-January 3, 1852, by Various
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-Title: Notes and Queries, Vol. V, Number 114, January 3, 1852
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-VOLUME FIFTH.
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-JANUARY--JUNE, 1852
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-1852.
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-NOTES AND QUERIES:
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-A MEDIUM OF INTER-COMMUNICATION
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-LITERARY MEN, ARTISTS, ANTIQUARIES, GENEALOGISTS, ETC.
-
-"When found, make a note of."--CAPTAIN CUTTLE.
-
-VOL. V.--No. 114. SATURDAY, JANUARY 3. 1852.
-
-Price Fourpence. Stamped Edition 5_d._
-
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-
-CONTENTS.
-
- Page
-
-
- Our Fifth Volume 1
-
- NOTES:--
-
- Stops, when first introduced, by Sir Henry Ellis 1
-
- Preaching from Texts in Cornwall, by E. Smirke 2
-
- On the Expression "Richly deserved," by D. Jardine 3
-
- The Caxton Coffer, by Bolton Corney, &c. 3
-
- Admonition to the Parliament, by J. Payne Collier 4
-
- Folk Lore:--New Year's Rain; Saxon Spell--Fishermen's
- Superstitions 5
-
- The Author of Hudibras at Ludlow Castle, by Peter
- Cunningham 5
-
- Dr. Franklin's Tract on Liberty and Necessity, by Jas.
- Crossley 6
-
- Early Flemish Illustrations of Early English Literature,
- by William J. Thoms 6
-
- Minor Notes:--Family Likenesses--Bloomerism in the
- Sixteenth Century--Inscriptions at Much Wenlock and on
- Statue of Queen Anne at Windsor 7
-
- QUERIES:--
-
- The Age of Trees--The Great Elm at Hampstead, by
- John Bruce 8
-
- Minor Queries:--"Inveni portum;" "For they, 'twas
- they"--Matthew Walker--Aleclenegate--Smothering Hydrophobic
- Patients--Philip Twisden, Bishop of Raphoe--"Sir
- Edward Seaward's Narrative," edited by Miss Jane
- Porter--Clerical Members of Parliament--Allens of
- Rossull--Number of the Children of Israel--Computatio
- Eccles. Anglic.--Martinique, &c. 10
-
- MINOR QUERIES ANSWERED:--Mutabilitie of France--Caldoriana
- Societas--Millers of Meath--Kissing under the
- Mistletoe--Trinity Chapel, Knightsbridge--"Please the
- Pigs"--Meaning of Barnacles--The Game of Curling 12
-
- REPLIES:--
-
- Saint Irene and the Island of Santorin, by Sir J. E.
- Tennent 14
-
- The Old Countess of Desmond--Who was she? No. II. 14
-
- Collar of SS., by Edward Foss, &c. 16
-
- Replies to Minor Queries:--Tregonwell Frampton--Longueville
- MSS.--Cooper's Miniature of Cromwell--Pope and
- Flatman--Voltaire--Tudur Aled--Latin Verse on Franklin 16
-
- MISCELLANEOUS:--
-
- Notes on Books, Sales, Catalogues, &c. 18
-
- Books and Odd Volumes wanted 18
-
- Notices to correspondents 18
-
- Advertisements 19
-
-
-
-
-OUR FIFTH VOLUME.
-
- Although We cannot commence our Fifth Volume, and the First of our
- enlarged Series, without some reference to so important an event
- in the history of "NOTES AND QUERIES," our address shall be as
- "brief as the posey of a ring." We heartily and earnestly express
- our thanks to all our friends, whether Contributors or Readers,
- for the favour they have shown us, and the encouragement and
- support which have rendered the enlargement of our paper
- necessary. We entered upon our course with the support of many
- distinguished friends, whose varied acquirements stamped an
- immediate value on "NOTES AND QUERIES," and gave it a character
- which raised it to its present position among the periodicals of
- the country. The present number bears witness for us, that whilst
- we have retained our old friends, which we acknowledge with pride
- and thankfulness, we have added to the number many new ones. We
- have striven, and shall ever continue to strive, to unite them
- together into one goodly band, feeling assured that by that union
- we bring into the pages of "NOTES AND QUERIES" the learning,
- kindliness, aptitude, and diversity of talent and subject, which
- are necessary to ensure its usefulness, and therefore its success.
- To all our Friends and Contributors, both old and new, we offer in
- their several degrees the tribute of our grateful thanks, and our
- heartiest wishes that we may pass together MANY HAPPY NEW YEARS!
-
-
-
-
-Notes.
-
-
-STOPS, WHEN FIRST INTRODUCED.
-
-In casually looking into a little work entitled _The Tablet of Memory_,
-I found an entry which informed me that "stops in literature were
-introduced in 1520: the colon, 1580; semicolon, 1599."
-
-Upon what authority the dates here quoted may have been supposed to
-rest, I have no notion.
-
-The comma, beyond question I believe, has been derived from the short
-oblique line which, both in manuscripts and in early printed books, is
-continually seen to divide portions of sentences.
-
-The colon is of very old date, derived from the [Greek: kolon] of the
-Greeks, the part of a period. In printing, we find it in the Mazarine
-Bible soon after 1450; and in the block books, believed to be of still
-earlier date.
-
-Herbert, in his edition of Ames's _Typographical Antiquities_, p. 512.,
-notices the first semicolon he had met with in an edition of Myles
-Coverdale's New Testament, printed in 1538 by Richard Grafton. It was in
-the Dedication, and, he says, a solitary instance in the book. The only
-semicolon he subsequently met with, was in a book printed by Thomas
-Marshe in 1568, on Chess. Ibid. p. 358.
-
-Herbert says, both seem to have been used accidentally.
-
-Puttenham, in his _Arte of English Poesie_, 4to., 1589, in his chapter
-of "Cesure," says:--
-
- "The ancient reformers of language invented these names of pauses,
- one of lesse leasure than another, and such several intermissions
- of sound, to serve (besides easement to the breath) for a treble
- distinction of sentences or parts of speech, as they happened to
- be more or lesse perfect in sense. The shortest pause, or
- intermission, they called _comma_, as who would say a piece of a
- speech cut off. The second they called _colon_, not a piece, but
- as it were a member, for his larger length, because it occupied
- twice an much time as the comma. The third they called _periodus_,
- for a complement or full pause, and as a resting place and
- perfection of so much former speech as had been uttered, and from
- whence they needed not to passe any further, unless it were to
- renew more matter to enlarge the tale."
-
-The "three pauses, comma, colon, and periode," with the interrogative
-point, appear to have been all which were known to Puttenham.
-
-Puttenham's _Arte of Poesie_ has been already mentioned as printed in
-1589. In the Countess of Pembroke's _Arcadia_, printed by W. Ponsonby in
-the very next year, 1590, the semicolon may be seen in the first page.
-
-A book printed at Edinburgh in 1594 has not the semicolon; the use of it
-had not, apparently, arrived in Scotland.
-
-That an earlier use of the semicolon had been made upon the Continent is
-probable. It occurs in the _Sermone di Beato Leone Papa_, 4to., Flor.
-1485, the last point in the book.
-
-The interrogative point, or note of interrogation, probably derived from
-the Greek, occurs frequently in Wilson's _Arte of Rhetorique_, 4to.,
-1553.
-
-Some reader of your "NOTES AND QUERIES," better informed than myself,
-may possibly throw further light upon the English adoption of stops in
-literature.
-
- HENRY ELLIS.
-
-
-PREACHING FROM TEXTS IN CORNWALL.
-
-Your correspondents have already pointed out the very early prevalence
-of this usage, but the inquiry has brought to my recollection an
-instance which incidentally affords some curious information respecting
-the several languages formerly current in the western parts of this
-island. It was lately published, among numerous other extracts, from the
-registers of the see of Exeter, in the valuable _Monasticon Dioecesis
-Exoniensis_ of Dr. Oliver, pp. 11, 12.
-
-In 1336, Grandison, then Bishop of Exeter, made a visitation of his
-diocese. At the western extremity of it, is situate the deanery or
-collegiate church of St. Burian, which has always claimed to be exempt
-from episcopal visitation, or at least from ordinary jurisdiction. It is
-probable that, on one occasion of this disputed exemption, the
-parishioners of this remote district at the Land's End had given offence
-to the Bishop or his functionaries.
-
-In company with the Lords Mortimer, D'Awney, and Bloyhon (probably an
-ancestor of your correspondent BLOWEN), and a large staff of
-archdeacons, chancellors, canons, chaplains, and familiars, the Bishop
-visited the church of St. Burian, and obtained from the parishioners a
-solemn promise of future obedience to his spiritual authority. The
-promise was made by the greater parishioners in English and French, and
-by the rest in Cornish, which the rector of St. Just (a parish which has
-lately obtained some celebrity by the Gorham controversy) interpreted to
-his lordship. Having absolved them, he then preached a long sermon on
-the text, "_Eratis sicut oves errantes conversi ad pastorem episcopum
-animarum vestrarum_," which the rector of St. Just there interpreted in
-Cornish.
-
-It is not stated in the record what language was used by the Bishop in
-his sermon; but if he preached, as one of his successors, Bishop Lacy,
-is known to have done, in the language of his text, the business of
-explanation must have been rather troublesome. As he is said to have
-"successively" preached this sermon there,--"_successive ibidem publice
-praedicavit supra sumpto themate_,"--it is possible that he had to repeat
-his sermon in more languages than one. It is at all events certain, that
-_three_ languages at least were employed, and that the Bishop did not
-understand Cornish, nor the Cornish men the Bishop. The names of the
-"major parishioners," that is, of the gentlemen of the district, are
-appended to the document, and are all (except perhaps one) genuine
-Cornish families, including the Boscawens and Vyvyans of the present
-day. They gave in their adhesion to the Bishop in English and French,
-and must therefore have understood one or both of those languages. Of
-the Bishop's chaplains, only one has a Cornish name; and the interpreter
-and rector of the adjacent parish of St. Just, Henry Marseley, was also
-probably not a Cornubian.
-
-I may mention that the penitent parishioners very prudently reserved the
-king's rights. As the king claimed the deanery of St. Burian as a royal
-peculiar exempt from ordinary jurisdiction, and eventually made good his
-claim, it is plain that neither the promises of the parishioners nor the
-polyglot sermon of the Bishop, could have had any lasting effect. The
-patronage was soon after conferred on the Black Prince, and through him
-transmitted to the present Duke of Cornwall, by whose spontaneous act
-this obnoxious exemption from episcopal control was wholly and for ever
-renounced within the last two years. The successor of Grandison may
-now, therefore, visit the churches of the deanery, excommunicate the
-ministers and parishioners, and interrogate presentees, without let or
-hindrance; and, since the language of Cornwall died with old Dolly
-Pentreath, his lordship will not require the hermeneutic services either
-of the present or the _late incumbent_ of St. Just.
-
- E. SMIRKE.
-
-
-ON THE EXPRESSION "RICHLY DESERVED."
-
-I was a few days ago induced to consider whence the common expression
-"richly deserved" could be derived. It is used by Addison and his
-contemporaries, but I have not been able to find it in writers of an
-earlier period. Possibly the reading of some of your contributors may
-supply instances of its occurrence which may prove more precisely its
-origin and history.
-
-The phrase, in its literal sense, is anomalous and unmeaning. We may
-properly say that a reward or punishment has been "fully deserved" or,
-by a common mode of exaggeration, we may say that a thing has been
-"abundantly deserved:" but "richly deserved" seems a false figure of
-speech, and presents to the mind an obvious incongruity of ideas. Dr.
-Johnson cites a passage from Addison, in which chastisement is said to
-have been "richly deserved," and says that it is used ironically to
-signify "truly" or "abundantly."
-
-Of the meaning of the expression--now by usage become trivial--there
-can, of course, be no doubt; but how came so inappropriate a thought as
-_wealth_ to be applied to desert? The inaptitude of the expression
-suggests the presumption that it is a corruption of some more correct
-phrase; and I venture to throw out a conjecture, for confirmation or
-refutation by the more extensive reading of some of your philological
-contributors, that it is corrupted through the medium of oral
-pronunciation from "righteously deserved."
-
-In one of the prayers of the Litany, in our Book of Common Prayer, is
-the expression, "Turn from us all those evils which we most righteously
-have deserved." "Righteously" is itself a barbarous corruption of an
-excellent English word, "rightwisely," which is used by Bishop Fisher
-and other old writers. Our ancient kings were said to be "rightwise"
-kings of England, and to hold their prerogatives and titles
-"rightwisely;" and in the Liturgies of Edward VI. the word "rightwisely"
-is found, instead of "righteously," in the prayer of the Litany
-above-mentioned. Now "rightwisely deserved" is an expression as strictly
-logical and correct, as "richly deserved" is the contrary; and as
-"righteously" is clearly a corruption of "rightwisely," may not
-"richly," when applied to desert, be corrupted immediately from
-"righteously," and ultimately from "rightwisely?"
-
- D. JARDINE.
-
-
-THE CAXTON COFFER.
-
-If I were to print the explanation which follows without also producing
-evidence that it had escaped the notice of those to whose works all
-students in early English bibliography have recourse, it would seem like
-advancing a claim to discovery on very slight grounds. I must therefore
-quote Ames, Herbert, and Dibdin.
-
- "_The history of Lombardy_, translated from the Latin [by William
- Caxton], is mentioned by Pitts."--J. AMES, 1749.
-
- "I take this _History of Lombardy_ to be no other than 'the gestis
- of the Lombardes and of Machomet wyth other cronycles,' added to
- the life of St. Pelagyen in the _Golden legend_, and printed
- separately for the use of the commonality [sic], who could not
- purchase so large a folio."--W. HERBERT, 1785; T. F. DIBDIN, 1810.
-
-Both Bale and Pits ascribe to Caxton the translation of a work entitled
-_Historia Lumbardica_. Ames, as we have seen, states the fact with
-regard to Pits, but had met with no such work; Herbert, by way of
-explanation, assumes the existence of a publication of which no one had
-before heard; and Dibdin, who had far superior means of information,
-repeats the observations of Herbert without the addition of one word
-expressive of assent or dissent. May we not infer their inability to
-solve the problem?
-
-The conjecture of Herbert is very plausible. One fact, however, is worth
-a score of conjectures; and the fact, in this case, is that in the
-earlier editions of the Latin legend the title is _Legenda sanctorum
-sive historia Longobardica_. Jacques de Voragine, the author of the work
-in question, was a Lombard by birth, and archbishop of Genoa. Now
-_Lombardi_ and _Longobardi_ were synonymous terms--as we see in Du
-Fresne; and so were their derivatives. With this explanation, it must be
-admitted that the _Historia Lumbardica_ of Bale and Pits is no other
-than the _Golden legend_!
-
- BOLTON CORNEY.
-
-Since my last communication, I have ascertained that "Caxton," in
-Cambridgeshire was also designated "Causton."
-
-In the _Abbrev. Rot. Origin._, 41 E. 3., Rot. 42., we have--
-
- "Cantabr. Joh[=e]s Freville dat viginti marcas [p=] li[=e]
- feoffandi Joh[=e]m de Carleton et Joh[=e]m de Sel[=v]le de man'io
- de _Causton_," &c.
-
-And in _Cal. Inq._, p. m., 4 R. 2., No. 23., we have--
-
- "Elena uxor Joh[=e]s Frevill Ch[=r]. _Caxton_ maner 3a
- pars--Cantabr."
-
-We have, then, in Cambridgeshire "Causton" and "Caxton" used
-indifferently for the same manor. There need be no difficulty,
-therefore, in identifying the name of "Caxton" with "Causton" manor in
-Hadlow.
-
-We have advanced, then, one step further in our investigation, and the
-case at present stands thus: Caxton says of himself that he was born in
-the Weald of Kent. Fuller, as cited by MR. BOLTON CORNEY, says,
-"William Caxton was born in that town [sc. Caxton]."
-
-In the Weald of Kent is a manor called Causton (to which we may now add)
-alias Caxton, which manor was owned in the middle of the fourteenth
-century by a family of the same name (from whom it had passed a century
-later), and held of the honour of Clare, the lords of which honour, in
-the fifteenth century, were that ducal and royal house, by which William
-Caxton was warmly patronised.
-
-From these data we will hope that some of your correspondents may deduce
-materials for satisfactorily fixing the place of Caxton's birth. Is
-there upon record any note of armorial bearings, or of any badge used by
-Caxton? Should there be, and we find such to be at all connected with
-the bearings of the lords of Causton, it will be additional evidence in
-our favour.
-
- LAMBERT B. LARKING.
-
-In the body of St. Alphege Church, Canterbury, is the following
-monumental inscription:
-
- "Pray for the sawlys of John Caxton and of Jone
- And Isabel that to this church great good hath done
- In making new in the chancell
- Of Dexkys and Setys aswell
- An Antiphon the which did bye
- With a table of the martyrdome of St. Alphye
- Forthing much which did pay
- And departed out of this life of October the 12 day
- And Isabel his second wiff
- Passed to blisse where is no strife
- The xijt day to tell the trowth
- Of the same moneth as our Lord knoweth
- In the yeare of our Lord God a thousand fower hundred
- fowerscore and five."
-
-What relation (if any) was the above to the typographer? They must have
-been co-existent, and the "Note" may perhaps be a step in the right
-direction for arriving at the true "stock" of the _Caxton Coffer_.
-
- FRANCISCUS.
-
-
-ADMONITION TO THE PARLIAMENT.
-
-I never had the good fortune to see a copy of the book called _An
-Admonition to the Parliament_, but I find a full description of it in
-Herbert's _Ames_, iii. 1631., under the date of 1572, from which I gather
-that it had been printed four times anterior to that year. It was
-written by two puritanical divines, Field and Wilcox, and contained such
-an attack upon the bishops, that they did their utmost to suppress it;
-but Whitgift, nevertheless, gave it additional notoriety by publishing
-an answer to it, which came out originally in 1571, and was reprinted in
-1572 and 1573 (Herbert's _Ames_, ii. 934.). I have not Strype at hand to
-see what he says about the _Admonition_, and the reply to it; but some
-time ago I met with a letter among the Lansdown MSS. (No. 27.) which
-relates to the _Admonition_, and shows that Thomas Woodcock, a well
-known stationer, had been confined in Newgate by the Bishop of London
-(Aylmer) for selling it. It is dated 9th Dec. 1578, and is subscribed by
-five of the most distinguished and respectable printers and publishers
-of that day, soliciting Lord Burghley (to whom it is addressed) to
-interfere on behalf of the poor prisoner. It runs precisely in the
-following form:
-
-"Our humble duties unto your good L. premised. May it please the same to
-be advertised, that one Thomas Woodcock, an honest young man, and one of
-our Company, hathe bin imprisoned in Newgate by the L. Bishopp of London
-theis six dayes, for sellinge of certaine bookes called the _Admonition
-to the Parliament_. Dyvers of the poore mans frendes have bin earnest
-suitors unto the Bishopp of London for his libertie: his L. aunswere
-unto them is, that he neither can nor will do any thinge without your L.
-consent, signified by your letters or warrant. It may therfore please
-your honor, in consideration of the premisses and our humble request,
-either to direct your L. warrant for his enlargement, or els to signifie
-your pleasure unto the L. Bishopp of London to take order herein
-accordingly, the said poore man first puttinge in sufficient bond to
-appeare at all tymes when he shalbe called, and readdy to aunswere to
-any matters whatsoever shalbe objected against him. Thus prayinge,
-accordinge to our duties, for your good L. long and prosperous health
-with encrease of honor, we commyt the same for this tyme to the
-protection of the Almightie. At London, 9'o Decemb. 1578.
-
-"Your L. most humble at Command the Mr. and Wardens with others of the
-Company of Stationers,
-
- "RYCHARDE TOTTYLL,
- GEORGE BYSSHOP,
- JOHN HARYSON,
- WILLM. SERES,
- JOHN DAYE."
-
-From the above we may perhaps conclude, that an edition of the
-_Admonition to Parliament_ had been printed not long before the date of
-Thomas Woodcock's imprisonment for selling it; but I do not find that
-any historian or bibliographer mentions such an edition. Excepting in
-the letter of the five stationers, Tottyll, Bysshop, Haryson, Seres, and
-Daye, there seems to be no authority for connecting Woodcock with the
-publication, and his confinement did not take place until Dec. 6, 1578;
-whereas Neal, in his _History of the Puritans_, as cited by Herbert,
-informs us that Field and Wilcox, on presenting the _Admonition_ to the
-House of Commons in 1572, were immediately committed to Newgate.
-
-Unless there were two puritanical ministers of the name of Field, he,
-who was imprisoned with Wilcox, was the John Field, who, I apprehend,
-was the father of Nathaniel Field, the actor in Shakspeare's plays, and
-the Theophilus Field, who (in spite of his father's hostility to the
-church and bishops, and in spite of his brother's devotion to the
-stage,) was afterwards Bishop of Llandaff from 1619 to 1627, Bishop of
-St. David's from 1627 to 1635, and Bishop of Hereford from 1635 to 1636,
-when he died.
-
- J. PAYNE COLLIER.
-
-
-FOLK LORE.
-
-_New Year's Rain_--_Saxon Spell._--I have just read a good-natured
-notice[1] in _The Athenaeum_ of December 6th, in which your contemporary
-suggests that communications on the subject of _Folk Lore_ should be
-addressed to you. The perusal of it has reminded me of two Queries upon
-the subject, which I had originally intended to address to the editor of
-that paper, as they refer to articles which appeared in his own pages.
-On his hint, however, I will transfer them to your columns; and avail
-myself of the opportunity of thanking the editor of _The Athenaeum_ for
-having for so long a period and so effectually directed the attention of
-the readers of that influential journal to a subject of great interest
-to many, and of considerable historical value. The first relates to a
-song sung by the children in South Wales on New Year's morning, when
-carrying a jug full of water newly drawn from the well. It is given in
-_The Athenaeum_, No. 1058., for the 5th Feb., 1848, and there several
-references will be found to cognate superstitions. My object is to ask
-if the song is known elsewhere; and if so, whether with any such
-varieties of readings as would clear some of the obscurities of the
-present version:--
-
- "Here we bring new water
- From the well so clear,
- For to worship God with
- This happy New Year.
- Sing levez dew, sing levez dew,
- The water and the wine;
- The seven bright gold wires
- And the bugles they do shine.
-
- "Sing reign of Fair Maid
- With gold upon her toe,--
- Open you the West Door,
- And let the Old Year go.
- Sing reign of Fair Maid,
- With gold upon her chin,
- Open you the East Door,
- And let the New Year in."
-
-The second is from _The Athenaeum's_ very able review of Mr. Kemble's
-_Saxons in England_,--a work of learning and genius not yet nearly so
-well known as it deserves. The reviewer says:
-
- "In one of the Saxon spells, which Mr. Kemble has inserted in his
- appendix, we at once recognized a rhyme which we have heard an old
- woman in our childhood use--and in which many Saxon words,
- unintelligible to her, were probably retained."
-
-If my communication should meet the eye of the gentleman who wrote this,
-I hope he will let the readers of "NOTES AND QUERIES" become acquainted
-with the rhyme in question. For it is obvious that among them will be
-found many who agree with him that "a very curious and useful
-compilation might be made of the various spells in use in different
-parts of England, classed according to their localities,--more
-especially if the collectors would give them verbatim," and who would
-therefore be willing to assist towards its formation.
-
- A FOLK-LORIST.
-
- [Footnote 1: We should not be doing justice either to our own
- feelings or to the kindness and liberality of our able and most
- influential contemporary, if we did not take this opportunity of
- acknowledging not only his kindness upon the present occasion, but
- also the encouragement which _The Athenaeum_ has taken every
- opportunity of affording to "NOTES AND QUERIES."--ED. N. & Q.]
-
-_Fishermen's superstitions._--A friend recently informed me that at
-Preston Pans the two following superstitious observances exist among the
-fishermen of that place. If, on their way to their boats, they meet a
-pig, they at once turn back and defer their embarkation. The event is an
-omen that bodes ill for their fishery.
-
-It is a favourite custom to set sail on the Sunday for the fishing
-grounds. A clergyman of the town is said to pray against their
-sabbath-breaking; and to prevent any injury accruing from his prayers,
-the fishermen make a small image of rags, and burn it on the top of
-their chimneys.
-
- U.
-
-
-THE AUTHOR OF HUDIBRAS AT LUDLOW CASTLE.
-
-So little is known of Butler,--his life, as his biographers have given
-it to us, is made up of so very few anecdotes and dates,--that I have
-thought any Note which contained a fact about him, would be an
-acceptable addition to "N. & Q." (I shall value your space, you see, in
-future contributions). The following entries are copied from Lord
-Carbery's Account of the Expense incurred in making Ludlow Castle
-habitable after Clarendon's "Great Rebellion" (query, Civil War); and
-the entries are valuable as specifying the period of Butler's services
-as steward of Ludlow Castle, and the nature of the services performed by
-the great wit:--
-
- "For sundry supplyes of furniture paid for by Mr. Samuell Butler,
- late Steward, from January, 1661, to January, 1662, ixli. ijs.
- vd., and more by him paid to sundry Brasiers, Pewterers, and
- Coopers, vjli. vijs. iijd. In both
-
- xvli. ixs. viijd.
-
- "For sundry other supplyes of furniture paid for by Mr. Edward
- Lloyd the succeeding Steward, from January, 1662, to January,
- 1667
-
- clxli. xiiijs. xd.
-
- "For several Bottles, Corkes, and Glasses, bought by Mr. Butler,
- late Steward, from January, 1661, to January, 1662, vjli. xiijs.
- jd., and for two Saddles and furniture for the Caterer and
- Slaughterman, xxvjs. viijd. In both
-
- vijli. xixs. ixd."
-
-I was at Ludlow Castle last autumn, and thought (of course) of _Comus_
-and _Hudibras_. I bought at the same time the three parts of my friend
-Mr. Wright's excellent _History of Ludlow Castle_, and paid in advance
-for the concluding part. Pray let me ask Mr. Wright (through "N. & Q.")
-by what time (I am a hungry antiquary) we may hope the concluding part
-will be published? I will gladly show Mr. Wright Lord Carbery's Account.
-
- PETER CUNNINGHAM.
-
-
-DR. FRANKLIN'S TRACT ON LIBERTY AND NECESSITY.
-
-In Dr. Franklin's _Autobiography_, he mentions as his first work a
-pamphlet printed in London in 1725 on Liberty and Necessity, Pleasure
-and Pain. It was written by him when he was eighteen years of age, and
-partly in answer to Wollaston's _Religion of Nature_. The object was to
-prove, from the attributes of God, his infinite wisdom, goodness, and
-power, that nothing could possibly be wrong in the world; and that vice
-and virtue were empty distinctions, no such things existing. He printed,
-he says, only a hundred copies, of which he gave a few to his friends;
-and afterwards disliking the piece, as conceiving it might have an ill
-tendency, he burnt the rest except one copy. This tract, most curious as
-the first publication of this extraordinary man, seems to have eluded
-hitherto every search. In Jared Sparks's elaborate edition of Dr.
-Franklin's Works in 10 vols., it is of course not to be found. In a note
-(vol. viii., p. 405.), the editor observes, "No copy of this tract is
-now known to be in existence." Nor do I find that any writer on the
-subject of Franklin, or the history of metaphysics, or moral philosophy,
-appears to have seen it. Sir Jas. Mackintosh was long in search of it,
-but was compelled ultimately to give it up in despair.
-
-I am happy to inform those who may take an interest in Dr. Franklin's
-first performance--and what is there in literary history more attractive
-than to compare the earliest works of great men with their maturer
-efforts?--that I fortunately possess a copy of this tract. It is bound
-up in a volume of tracts, and came from the library of the Rev. S.
-Harper. The title is, "_A Dissertation on Liberty and Necessity,
-Pleasure and Pain, in a Letter to a Friend_:
-
- 'Whatever is, is in its causes just,
- Since all things are by fate; but purblind man
- Sees but a part o' th' chain, the nearest link,
- His eyes not carrying to the equal beam,
- That poises all above.'--DRYD."
-
-It is addressed to Mr. J(ames) R(alph), and commences: "Sir, I have
-here, according to your request, given you my present thoughts on the
-general state of things in the universe;" and concludes, "Truth will be
-truth, though it sometimes proves mortifying and distasteful." The
-pamphlet contains sixteen very closely printed pages in octavo; and the
-author proceeds by laying down his propositions, and then enlarging upon
-them, so as to form, in his opinion, a regular chain of consequences. It
-displays, as might be anticipated, considerable acuteness, though the
-reasonings, as he admits in his _Autobiography_, were such as to his
-maturer intellect appeared inconclusive. He subsequently wrote another
-pamphlet, in which he took the other side of the question; but it was
-never published, and I suppose is not now in existence.
-
- JAS. CROSSLEY.
-
-
-EARLY FLEMISH ILLUSTRATIONS OF EARLY ENGLISH LITERATURE.
-
-The commencement of a new volume of "NOTES AND QUERIES" affords a
-favourable opportunity for "tapping" (to use an expressive phrase of
-Horace Walpole's) a subject, on which it is reasonable to suppose much
-light may be thrown by some of your learned correspondents. I allude to
-the connection which formerly subsisted between the literature of
-England, and that of the Low Countries. Fortunate, indeed, would it be
-if any communication to "NOTES AND QUERIES" might be the means of
-drawing some illustration from one qualified beyond all others to treat
-every branch of this most interesting subject. Those of your readers who
-had the pleasure of hearing the admirable speech of a distinguished
-diplomatist at the Centenary Dinner of the Society of Antiquaries, will
-probably understand to whom I refer.
-
-Reserving for a future occasion some observations on the manner in which
-our English antiquaries have hitherto overlooked the materials
-illustrative of our popular literature, our popular superstitions, our
-early drama, our legends, and our traditions, which may be had for the
-gathering, from the popular literature, the popular superstitions, the
-early drama, the legends and traditions of the Low Countries--those Low
-Countries from which Chaucer married his wife--those Low Countries from
-which Caxton brought us his printing-press, and its long train of
-blessings--those Low Countries, in which, as I believe, and hope one day
-to prove, Shakspeare himself added to his vast stores of knowledge--I
-shall for the present content myself with one example, and that shall
-be a seasonable one, namely, of the similarity between the old Flemish
-carols, and those with which, at this happy season, the nights were
-whilom blest here in Old England.
-
-Hoffman von Fallersleben, in the second part of his _Horae Belgicae_, that
-great storehouse of materials for illustrating the early literature of
-the Netherlands (and which second part, by the bye, was separately
-published under the title of _Hollaendische Volkslieder_), after showing
-that the sacred songs of the Low Countries are, like our own, separable
-into Christmas carols, Easter hymns, songs in praise of the Virgin, and
-songs of Christian doctrine, proceeds to characterise the former in
-terms in which one might well describe many of those which were formerly
-most popular in our country. "The carols," he remarks, "are especially
-deserving of our attention. In them is most clearly shown the child-like
-religious spirit of the olden times, when men were not content merely to
-relate in the simple ballad form the story of Our Saviour's birth as
-recorded in Holy Scripture, but sought, by the introduction of little
-touches drawn from social and country life, to make that story more
-attractive and more instructive, and so to bring it home more directly
-to the hearts of their pious hearers." How truly applicable these
-remarks are to many of our own carols, must be obvious to all who know
-Mr. Sandys' valuable _Collection_; and the following instances, which
-Hoffman adduces in support of his views, will, I trust, satisfy your
-readers that I am right in maintaining the great resemblance between the
-carols of Old Flanders and those of Old England.
-
-"Many of the descriptions in these carols," he remarks, "bear a strong
-resemblance to some of the Bible pictures of the old masters;" and he
-gives, as an instance, the following simple picture of the Infant Jesus
-in the bath:
-
- "'The mother she made the child a bath,
- How lovely then therein it sate;
- The childling so platched with its hand
- That the water out of the beaker sprang.'[2]
-
- [Footnote 2: The version is, of course, as nearly literal as possible.]
-
-"But sometimes these religious poetical feelings impress themselves so
-deeply in their subject, that the descriptions verge closely upon the
-ludicrous:
-
- "'Mary did not herself prepare
- With cradle-clothes to her hand there,
- In which her dear child to wind.
- Soon as Joseph this did find,
- His hosen from his legs he drew,
- Which to this day at Aix they show,
- And with them those holy clothes did make
- In which God first man's form did take.'
-
-"It is true that we look upon these descriptions with modern eyes, not
-taking into consideration that our manners and customs, that our general
-views, in short, are not at all times in unison with those of the
-fifteenth century. But even if we are always right in these and similar
-cases, still we cannot deny that there often lies in these old poems
-what we, notwithstanding we are in the possession of the most exquisite
-skill, cannot at all reach,--an infinite _naivete_, a touching
-simplicity. Especially rich in this respect are the songs which describe
-the flight of the Holy Family into Egypt:
-
- "'Joseph he did leap and run,
- Until an ass's foal he won,
- Whereon he set the maiden mild,
- And with her that most blessed child.'
-
-"The whole idyllic life which they led in that country is told to us in
-a few unpretending traits:
-
- "'Joseph he led the ass,
- The bridle held he;
- What found they by the way,
- But a date tree?
- Oh! ass's foal thou must stand still,
- To gather dates it is our will,
- So weary are we.
- The date tree bowed to the earth,
- To Mary's knee;
- Mary would fill her lap
- From the date tree.
- Joseph was an old man,
- And wearied was he;
- Mary, let the date tree bide,
- We have yet forty miles to ride,
- And late it will be.
- Let us pray this blessed child
- Grant us mercie.'
-
-"Nay, these simple songs even inform us how the Holy family laboured for
-their subsistence in this 'strange countree:'
-
- "'Mary, that maiden dear,
- Well could she spin;
- Joseph as a carpenter,
- Could his bread win.
- When Joseph was grown old,
- That no longer work he could,
- The thread he wound,
- And Jesus to rich and poor
- Carried it round.'"
-
- WILLIAM J. THOMS.
-
-
-Minor Notes.
-
-_Family Likenesses._--I believe that a likeness always exists in members
-of the same family, though it may _not always_ be seen, and, even then,
-not by _everybody_. I have seen at times a striking likeness in a pretty
-face to that of a plain one in the same family.
-
-In one of the _Edinburgh Journals_ (Chambers') a stranger is said to
-have remarked the likeness to the portraits of Sir William Wallace of a
-passer-by, and was then informed by his companion that he was a
-_descendant_.
-
-I am witness of a strong likeness in a young man, born in 1832, to the
-portrait of his great-great-uncle, born in 1736,--which carries back the
-inherited likeness to the latter's father, who was born in 1707, and
-married 1730. It is no mere fancy of my own, but has been noticed by
-several on seeing the portrait.
-
- A. C.
-
-_Bloomerism in the Sixteenth Century._--Happening to pitch upon the
-following extract, I forward it to you in the belief that it may, at the
-present time, have an interest for some of your readers:--
-
- "I have met with some of these trulles in London so disguised that
- it hath passed my skills to discerne whether they were men or
- women."--Hollinshed, _Description of England_.
-
- X. X. X.
-
-_Inscriptions at Much Wenlock and on Statue of Queen Anne at
-Windsor._--Carved in a beam over the town hall of Much Wenlock, in
-Shropshire, stands (or perhaps stood, for the building was very old
-thirty years since) the following curious verses:
-
- "Hic locus odit, amat, punit, conservat, honorat,
- Nequitiam, pacem, crimina, jura, bonos."
-
-I am not aware if they have appeared previously in your publication; but
-they are worthy of preservation, I think, if for nothing else, for the
-oddity of linking one line with another.
-
-There is also a couple of lines on the town hall, Windsor, underneath a
-miserable statue of Queen Anne:
-
- "Arte tua, sculptor, non est imitabilis Anna,
- Annae vis similem sculpere? sculpe Deam."
-
-The unintentional satire conveyed in the first line is very appropriate,
-as the statue is a thing of wood, and forcibly reminds one of the
-_charming_ statue of George IV. formerly at King's Cross.
-
- PROCURATOR.
-
-
-
-
-Queries.
-
-
-THE AGE OF TREES.--THE GREAT ELM AT HAMPSTEAD.
-
-The question of the age of trees, introduced to your notice by your very
-able correspondent L. (Vol. iv., p. 401.), and touched upon by several
-others, is a subject of peculiar interest, and yet I scarcely know any
-ancient memorials which have been so much neglected by antiquarian
-inquirers. How seldom has any systematic attempt been made to collect
-the existing historical evidence relating to them, and of the few weak
-efforts which have been put forth in that direction, how insignificant
-have been the results! Such evidence exists in a great variety of
-quarters, and if your correspondents could be persuaded to adopt L.'s
-suggestion, and take up the matter in a really serious spirit, the
-nature of your publication, and the wide extent of your circulation,
-render your pages singularly well adapted for doing really effective
-service in a cause which is equally interesting to the naturalist and
-the antiquary. What is wanted is, that antiquarian students should bring
-forward the facts respecting historical trees which are to be found in
-ancient evidences of all kinds, and that local knowledge should be
-applied to the identification of such trees wherever it is possible. If
-this were done--done, that is, thoroughly and carefully--I cannot doubt
-that an antiquity would be satisfactorily established in reference to
-many trees and clumps of trees still existing throughout the kingdom,
-which it would now be thought supremely wild and fanciful even to
-imagine. I would not go the length of anticipating that we might
-establish the identity of some grove in which druidical mysteries have
-been celebrated, or (to adopt the words of Sir Walter Scott) of some
-"broad-headed, short-stemmed, wide-branched" monarchs of the forest,
-"which had witnessed the march of the Roman soldiery;" I should almost
-despair even of identifying the thorns on Ash Down (a place itself named
-from some celebrated tree), around which the battle raged between Alfred
-and the Danes: but every one at all acquainted with ancient documents
-knows how frequently they contain allusions to celebrated trees; and it
-is perfectly possible that trees which sheltered King John in his
-continual wild, impulsive, Arab-like flights from place to place, or
-under which the Edwards halted in their marches to Scotland or Wales,
-may yet be pointed out. I have no doubt that Evelyn saw evidence that
-the Tortworth Great Chestnut was a boundary tree in the days of King
-Stephen; and if such evidence is not now forthcoming, I by no means
-despair of its re-discovery, if any one will set himself seriously to
-search for it. We learn in Pepys[3], that in his time, in the forest of
-Dean, there were still standing the old "Vorbid" or "forbid" trees of
-the time of Edward III.; that is (I presume), the trees which were left
-standing as marks or boundaries when there was a great felling of timber
-in the reign of Edward III. Perhaps some of your correspondents can tell
-us whether there are any such trees known in the forest of Dean now.
-
- [Footnote 3: Pepys's Diary, ii. 18.]
-
-The recurrence of the mention of celebrated trees in early charters, is
-far more frequent than any one who has not examined the subject would
-suppose. There was no kind of "mark" or "bound" more common amongst
-ancient people, or more frequently mentioned in their written evidences,
-than large or celebrated trees. Any one may satisfy himself upon this
-point by a simple reference to Mr. Kemble's invaluable _Codex
-Diplomaticus_. I have just taken down the third volume of that work,
-and, dipping into it at random, at p. 448. I find the following, in the
-enumeration of the bounds of some lands at Brokenborough, in Wilts:--
-
- "From thence to the mark which is called the Apple-Thorn, and from
- the same apple-bearing tree, by the public street, to Woubourne,
- and along the same water by a straight course to Geresbourne, and
- along the same stream in a straight course to Ordwoldes wood,
- which is now called Bradene, and through the same wood for about
- three miles to the boundary mark, which is called holehoke" [Holy
- Oak].
-
-Here are intimations which must have been recognizable in the spot for
-centuries afterwards.
-
-At p. 343. of the same volume, we read of "Kentwines Tree" at Shipford,
-and "Adulfes Tree" and "Hysemannes Thorn" at Mickleton. At p. 336. is
-mention of "the single thorn" by Ellenford, and the "Kolan Tree" and
-"Huredes Tree," near the same place. At p. 328. we read of "the Hundred
-Tree" at Winchendon. At p. 174. of "Dunemannes Tree" at Bladen.
-
-In vol. v. at p. 297. we have a remarkable description of boundaries at
-Blewbury, in Berkshire, in which we read, if I interpret correctly:--
-
- "From Hawkthorn [now Hackthorn] to the Long Thorn on the Ikenild
- way; thence to the Third Thorn at Wirhangran; thence to the Fourth
- Thorn which stands forward on Wrangan Hill; thence to the Fifth
- Thorn; thence to the Olive Tree; thence west along the bye road to
- the Thorn"--and so forth.
-
-In the same description we read of several "Treowstealls," which mean, I
-suppose, clumps of trees, and amongst them of "Athelstanes Treowsteal."
-
-In vol. vi. at p. 8. we read of "Frigedaeges Tree," at Ginge, in
-Berkshire; at p. 60., of "Wiggerdes Tree," at Plush, in Dorsetshire; and
-innumerable other instances may be found throughout the book. These have
-occurred to me on just opening the volumes here and there, and are
-adduced merely to explain to persons unacquainted with the _Codex
-Diplomaticus_, the nature of the information upon this subject which it
-contains; and there are many other books from which similar facts may be
-derived.
-
-The examples I have given exhibit the various parts which conspicuous
-trees were made to play in ancient times. The Holy Oak and Frigedaeges
-Tree had, no doubt, been consecrated to superstition; the Hundred Tree
-marked a place for the general assembly of the people of a district; the
-trees distinguished by the prefixed names of individuals, indicated that
-they stood on the properties of private owners,--on lands, that is,
-which the owners had "called after their own names." The memory of many
-historical trees is probably preserved to the present day in the names
-of the fields in which they stood. How many Mickle Thorn coppices, and
-Broad Oak pastures, and Long Tree meadows, and Old Yew pieces are
-scattered over the country. How many hundreds, and other larger
-divisions of counties, are named after ancient trees. How many of the
-old Saxon names of our towns and hamlets indicate that they grew up
-around a well-known oak, or ash, or thorn, or yew; in like manner as, in
-later periods, when strength rather than law was the ruler, the people
-crowded together their hovels under the protective shadow of the castle
-of some powerful chieftain, or within the privileged precincts of some
-consecrated fane.
-
-Having thus indicated, or rather enforced, a subject which I think well
-deserves the attention of your correspondents all over the world, allow
-me to conclude with a Query relating to a celebrated tree, of a
-comparatively modern date, which once existed in the neighbourhood of
-the metropolis.
-
-THE GREAT ELM AT HAMPSTEAD.--Where did it stand? What was its ultimate
-fate? When and how was it compelled to yield to the great leveller? It
-is delineated in a very scarce engraving by Hollar, which bears the date
-of 1653, and which is found on a poetical commemorative broadside,
-printed in that year. This tree, although then in full leaf, or so
-represented in Hollar's engraving, was entirely hollow. A staircase of
-forty-two steps had been contrived within its stem, by means of which
-visitors ascended to a turret erected on the top, which was capacious
-enough to give seats to six persons, and to contain twenty persons in
-the whole. The stem of the tree was twenty-eight feet in compass on the
-ground, and the ascent to the turret was thirty-three feet. The tree
-must have stood on some of the highest ground at Hampstead, for it is
-said that six neighbouring counties could be seen from the top of it.
-The Thames is mentioned as visible from it, with its shipping; and the
-following lines indicate the wide expanse which it commanded. The lines
-were written just at the time when Cromwell was about to assume the
-Protectorate.
-
- "Those stately structures where the court
- Had late their mansions, when our kings would sport;
- Of whom deprived they mourn, and, desolate,
- Like widows, look on their forlorn estate:
- 'Tis not smooth Richmond's streams, nor Acton's mill,
- Nor Windsor Castle, nor yet Shooter's Hill,
- Nor groves, nor plains, which further off do stand,
- Like landscapes portray'd by some happy hand:
- But a swift view, which most delightful shows,
- And doth them all, and all at once, disclose."[4]
-
- [Footnote 4: These lines are by Robert Codrington, respecting whom
- a reference may be made to Wood's _Athenae_, iii. 699. Bliss's ed.]
-
-Such was the entire command of the country which this tree enjoyed, that
-it is said that
-
- "Only Harrow on the Hill plays Rex,
- And will have none more high in Middlesex."
-
-"Essex Broad Oak" [where did that stand?] from which more than twenty
-miles could be seen, is poetically declared to have been "but a twig" in
-comparison with his relative at Hampstead; to find whose equal it is
-stated that
-
- "You must as far as unto Bordeaux go."
-
-There are other things worth remembering in connexion with this wonder
-of Hampstead: but I have occupied already more than enough of your
-space, and will only express my hope that some one will tell us where
-the Hampstead tree stood, and what was its fate; and what is known about
-the Essex Broad Oak; and what also about the Bordeaux compeer of the
-tree monarch of Hampstead.
-
- JOHN BRUCE.
-
-
-Minor Queries.
-
-"_Inveni portum_"--"_For they, 'twas they._"--You will much oblige me by
-permitting me to ask, through the medium of your entertaining
-publication, from whence the two following quotations were cited:
-
- "Inveni portum.--Spes et fortuna valete:
- Sat me lusistis; ludite nunc alios."
-
- "For _they_, 'twas _they_, unsheath'd the ruthless blade,
- And Heav'n shall ask the havock it has made."
-
-The first will be found in _Gil Blas_, livre 10ieme, chapitre 10ieme;
-and the second is used by the renegade Paul Jones in his mock-heroic
-epistle to the Countess of Selkirk, in extenuation of his having
-plundered the family seat in Scotland of the plate, on the 23rd April,
-1778.
-
-I should not trouble you, but I have asked many, of extensive reading
-and retentive memories, for solution of these Queries ineffectually.
-
- AMICUS.
-
-_Matthew Walker._--Can any of your correspondents, learned in naval
-antiquities and biographies, give any account of Matthew Walker, whose
-knot (described and figured in Darcy Lever's _Sheet Anchor_) is known by
-his name all over the world; and truly said to be "a handsome knot for
-the end of a Lanyard?"
-
- REGEDONUM.
-
-_Aleclenegate._--The east gate of the town of Bury St. Edmund's, which
-was always under the exclusive control of the abbot, is sometimes
-mentioned as "the Aleclenegate." What is the origin of the word?
-
- BURIENSIS.
-
-_Smothering Hydrophobic Patients._--I can recollect, when I was a boy,
-to have been much surprised and horrified with the accounts that old
-people gave me, that it was the practice in decided cases of _rabies
-canina_ to suffocate the unfortunate patient between feather beds. The
-disease being so suddenly and so invariably fatal, where it appeared
-unequivocally to attack the sufferer, might dispose the world to ascribe
-the death to what surely may be termed foul play; but perhaps some of
-your readers may be able to state where mention is made of such
-treatment, or what could give rise to such an opinion in the public
-mind.
-
- INDAGATOR.
-
-_Philip Twisden, Bishop of Raphoe._--In Haydn's _Book of Dignities_, p.
-475., there is the following note on the name of the prelate:--
-
- "Sir James Ware, or, more properly, the subsequent editors of his
- works, narrate some very extraordinary circumstances that rendered
- the close of the life of this prelate very remarkable and
- unfortunate; but we feel unwilling to transcribe them, though
- there seems to be no doubt of their truth."
-
-As Sir James Ware died in 1666, and the latest edition of his work on
-the Bishops of Ireland (by Walter Harris) was published in 1736, it is
-impossible that either he, or his subsequent editors, could have
-recorded anything of the last days of a prelate who died Nov. 2, 1752.
-
-Mr. Haydn, however, speaks as if he had actually before him the
-mysterious narrative which he has gone so far out of his way to allude
-to, and which for some equally mysterious reason he was "unwilling to
-transcribe," although he thought it necessary to call attention to it,
-and to express his inclination to believe in its truth.
-
-If this should meet his eye, would Mr. Haydn have the kindness to say
-where he found the story in question, as it is certainly not in Ware? I
-know of two stories, one of which is probably that to which Mr. Haydn
-has called the attention of his readers; but I have never seen them
-stated with such clearness, or on such authority, as would lead me to
-the conclusion that "there seemed no doubt of their truth."
-
- JAMES H. TODD.
-
- Trinity College, Dublin.
-
-_"Sir Edward Seaward's Narrative," edited by Miss Jane Porter._--I am in
-possession of a copy of the above work, presented to my father by the
-late amiable authoress, Miss Porter. It is, as you are no doubt aware, a
-journal of adventure in the Carribean Sea and its islands, between 1733
-and 1749; but on the publication of the first edition its authenticity
-was questioned, and a suggestion made by some of the critics that the
-editor was also the author. This, Miss Porter assured me was not the
-fact, and that the work is a genuine diary, placed in her hands for
-publication by the family, still existing, of the original writer. The
-name I think she intimated was not _Seaward_, but she expressed some
-hesitation to detail the circumstances of its coming into her
-possession. She makes, in a preface to the second edition, an assurance
-to the same effect as to the genuineness of the Narrative, and says the
-author died _at his seat in Gloucestershire in the year 1774_.
-
-Can any of your readers throw further light on this story, or inform who
-the hero of the Narrative really was?
-
- W.W.E.T.
-
- Warwick Square, Belgravia.
-
-_Clerical Members of Parliament._--In a note in p. 4. of _The Lexington
-Papers_, recently published, mention is made of a Mr. Robert Sutton,
-who, after having taken deacon's orders, and having accompanied his
-relative, Lord Lexington, to Vienna, in the joint capacity of chaplain
-and secretary, was, on his recall in 1697, appointed resident minister
-at the Imperial Court; was subsequently sent as envoy extraordinary to
-the Ottoman Porte; in 1720, succeeded Lord Stair as British minister at
-Paris; in 1721, was elected M.P. for Notts; and in 1725, was created
-Knight of the Bath. The editor adds this remark:
-
- "It is well known that holy orders were not at that time
- considered any disqualification for civil employments, but I do
- not recollect any other instance of a clerical Knight of the
- Bath."
-
-Do you, Mr. Editor, or any of your readers, recollect any other instance
-since the Reformation, of a _clerical member of parliament_, before the
-celebrated one of Horne Tooke? Were any such instances quoted in the
-debates on the bill for excluding clergymen from Parliament?
-
- CLERICUS.
-
-_Allens of Rossull._--Can any of you correspondents furnish me with the
-arms borne by the Allens of Rossull and Redivales, Lancashire? Of this
-family was the celebrated Cardinal Allen. Also the arms borne by the
-Pendleburys, another Lancashire family?
-
- J.C.
-
-_Number of the Children of Israel._--In Exod. xii. 37. it is stated that
-the numbers of the children of Israel constituting the Exodus was
-"600,000 men," "besides children." No specific mention is made of
-_women_: it will be diminishing the difficulty if the 600,000 are
-considered the aggregate of the adults of both sexes. It is said that
-the time the Israelites remained in Egypt was 430 years (Ex. xii. 40.).
-The number who were located in Egypt was seventy (Gen. xlvi. 27.). I
-wish to ascertain from some competent statistician what, under the most
-favourable circumstances, would be the increase of seventy people in 430
-years? I am aware that Professor Lee, in his invaluable translation of
-the Book of Job, is of opinion that 215 years is the time the Israelites
-actually remained in Egypt; and the remainder must be considered the
-previous time they were in Canaan. If the Professor's calculation be
-adopted, the statistician could easily show the difference at 215 and
-430 years.
-
- AEGROTUS.
-
-_Computatio Eccles. Anglic._--In Bishop Burnet's "Hist. of the Reform.,"
-vol. ii. of first folio edition, London, 1679, _Coll. of Records_, b.
-ii. p. 100. No. XL. is "An instrument of the speech of the Archbishop of
-Canterbury (Chicheley) made to the House of Commons about it," scilicet,
-Statute of Provisors. It begins as follows:--
-
- "Die Veneris, penultimo mensis Januarii, A.D. _secundum cursum et
- computationem Ecclesiae Anglicanae_ millesimo quadringentesimo
- _decimo septimo_, indictione sexta, pontificatus.... Martini Papae
- quinti anno undecimo."
-
-Now as Martin V. was chosen Pope by the Council of Constance, November
-11, 1417, his eleventh year would extend over January, 1428, and the
-sixth indiction answers to the same year, which would, however, be
-styled 1427 in ecclesiastical documents till March 25. Can the
-Computatio Eccles. Anglic. mean anything more than a reference to the
-distinction between the ecclesiastical and historical times of
-commencing the year? If it does not, decimo septimo must be an error for
-vicesimo septimo, made in transferring the numeral letters into words.
-Has this error been corrected in subsequent editions of Burnet?
-
- H.W.
-
-_Martinique._--Will any of your correspondents, acquainted with the
-history of the French islands, inform me why was the island of
-Martinique so called? English writers style the island _Martinico_, but
-none have gone so far as to give the derivation or meaning of the word.
-
- W.J.C.
-
- St. Lucia.
-
-_Objective and Subjective._--Will some of your intelligent readers deign
-to enlighten a merely physical ignoramus as to the precise meaning
-(always supposing there _be_ a meaning) of the oft-recurring words
-"objective" and "subjective" ("omjective" and "sumjective," according to
-Mr. Carlyle) in the Highgate "talk", supposed by sundry transcendental
-sages of our day to be the expression of an almost inspired wisdom. _Is_
-this exoteric jargon _translateable_ into intelligible English? or is it
-not (as Chalmers called it, speaking _Scottice_) "all buff?" Most
-assuredly he who really understands it (not _affects_ to understand it)
-need not, as Southey used to say, be afraid of cracking peach-stones.
-
- X.
-
-_Quarter Waggoner._--The master of a ship of war has the charge of
-navigating her from port to port, under the direction of the captain;
-and he is moreover charged to make what improvements he can in the
-charts. Now the masters were sometimes rather slack in the latter
-department, in which case they procured certificates from their captains
-to the Navy Board, stating that they had seen nothing but what was
-already in the general "Quarter Waggoner."
-
-Can any of your correspondents describe this Quarter Waggoner? And, as
-the master keeps the official _log_-book, can you kindly tell me how
-that recondite volume came to be so designated?
-
- W. H. SMYTH.
-
-_Sir Roger Wilcock._--Can any of your antiquarian readers favour me with
-the armorial ensigns of Sir Roger Wilcock, knight, whose daughter and
-heiress, Agnes, was wife to Sir Richard Turberville, of Coyty Castle, in
-Glamorganshire, and by him mother of two sons, Sir Payn, afterwards Lord
-of Coyty, and Wilcock Turberville, who by his wife Maud, heiress of
-Tythegstone, in the same county, was ancestor of the Turbervilles of
-that place, and of Penlline Castle.
-
-The lineage of this ancient and knightly family of Turberville is not
-given correctly in Burke's _Dictionary of the Landed Gentry_ for the
-year 1847. The marriage of Christopher Turberville of Penlline (sheriff
-for Glamorgan in 1549 and 1568) with Agnes Gwyn[5], heiress of Ryderwen
-in the county of Caermarthen, and widow of Henry Vaughan, Esq., is
-altogether omitted in Burke, and for the correctness of which see Lewis
-Dwnn's _Heraldic Visitation into Wales and its Marches_, vol. ii. (near
-the commencement) title "Ryderwen;" and in vol. i. of the same work, p.
-140., title "Ystradcorwg," Catherine, the issue of that marriage, and
-one of the daughters and coheiresses of Christopher Turberville, is
-mentioned as the wife of David Lloyd of that place, in the parish of
-Llanllawddog, co. Caermarthen, sheriff in 1590 and 1601. In further
-corroboration of this, we find that the Lloyds of Glanguelly and
-Ystradcorwg, descendants of the said marriage, ever afterwards quartered
-the arms of Turberville, viz. "chequy or and gu. a fesse ermine," with
-their own paternal shield. It is not improbable that the marriage of
-Christopher Turberville with the aforementioned Agnes, _kinswoman of the
-Rices_, may have had some influence in allaying the deadly animosity
-which had previously existed between the rival houses of Dynevor and
-Penlline.
-
- [Footnote 5: According to Lewis Dwnn, this Agnes Gwyn was daughter
- and coheiress (by Margaret his wife, daughter of Sir Rhys ab
- Thomas, K.G.) of Henry ab John of Ryderwen, son and heir (by
- Mabli, or Eva, his wife, daughter and coheiress of Henry ab
- Guilym, of Curt Henri and Llanlais, in the vale of Llangathen,
- Caermarthenshire) of John ab Henry (otherwise Penry), kinsman to
- the aforesaid Sir Rhys ab Thomas, and a branch of the Penrys of
- Llanelli, derived from a common origin with the ancient and noble
- house of Dynevor.]
-
-Again, in vol. iv. of Burke's _History of the Commoners_ for the year
-1838, Jenkyn Turberville of Tythegstone, fourth in descent from Wilcock
-Turberville, is stated to have wedded Florence, daughter of Watkyn ab
-Rasser Vaughan, and to have had issue by her two sons, Richard[6], who
-continued the line at Tythegstone, and Jenkyn, father of the said
-Christopher, of Penlline Castle, Glamorgan. By reference to Lewis Dwnn's
-work, edited by the late talented and much lamented antiquary, Sir
-Samuel Rush Meyrick, article "Vaughan of Bretwardine, co. Hereford, and
-Pembrey Court, Caermarthenshire," we find that Jenkyn Turberville
-married Denis, daughter of Watkyn ab Sir Roger Vaughan, knight, with the
-following remark in Welsh: "Ag ni bu dim plant o Derbil iddi ag wedi
-guraig Morgan ab Jenkyn gur Tre Dineg;" that is to say, "She had no
-children by Turberville, and she afterwards became the wife of Morgan ab
-Jenkyn,"--I presume, of Tredegar, in Monmouthshire. Is it not,
-therefore, likely that he married twice; that his first wife was Cecil
-Herbert, and the mother of his two sons?
-
- [Footnote 6: This gentleman had an ode addressed to him by the
- celebrated Welsh bard, Lewis of Glyn Cothi.--Vide Burke's work.]
-
-A correct lineage of the Turbervilles, with the ensigns they were
-entitled to quarter, down to Christopher Turberville's co-heiress
-Catherine, the wife of David Lloyd, would greatly oblige.
-
- W. G. T. T.
-
- Caermarthen.
-
-_Ruffles, when worn._--At what time did the fashion of wearing ruffles
-come in? and when did it go out?
-
-Many persons living at the present time remember their being generally
-worn in respectable, and occasionally in what may be called minor life.
-
-The clergy did not wear them.
-
-So general was their use in the early part of the reign of George III.,
-that the Rev. William Cole, of Milton, in the account of his Journey to
-France, in 1765, says he was taken for an English clergyman because he
-did not wear them, and in consequence addressed "M. l'Abbe."
-
-_Dr. John Ash._--I should feel exceedingly obliged by information
-respecting the birth-place and early history of Dr. John Ash, formerly
-an eminent physician practising in Birmingham, and the founder of the
-General Hospital in that town. He was a graduate of Trinity College,
-Oxford; his doctor's degree was taken in 1764. He died at Brompton,
-Knightsbridge, in 1798. Every available source has been searched in vain
-for information on this subject. It is required for literary purposes.
-
- F. RUSSELL.
-
-
-Minor Queries Answered.
-
-_Mutabilitie of France._--Upon the books at Stationers' Hall, Lib. C.,
-under the year 1597, 20th April, Thomas Creed entered _A Treatise of the
-Mutabilitie of Fraunce from the yeare of our Lorde 1460 untill the
-yeare of our Lorde 1595_. Can any of your readers say in what library a
-copy of this treatise can be found?
-
- INDAGATOR.
-
- [A copy is in the Bodleian library. The full title is, "The
- Mutable and Wavering Estate of France, from 1460 to 1595; together
- with an Account of the Great Battles of the French Nation both at
- Home and Abroad. 4to. Lond. Tho. Creede, 1597."]
-
-_Caldoriana Societas._--A copy of the Latin Bible of Junius and
-Tremellius, now in my possession, has on the title:
-
- "Sancti Gervasii, 1607.
- "Sumptibus Caldorianae Societatis."
-
-Will you kindly inform me who constituted this body, and why they were
-so called?
-
- QUIDAM.
-
- [Cotton, in his _Typographical Gazetteer_, has given the following
- notices of this body:--
-
- "Caldoriana Societas, qu. at Basle or Geneva? An edition of
- Calepine's _Lexicon_, fol. 1609, bears for imprint _Sumptibus
- Caldorianae Societatis_." "An edition of the controversies between
- Pope Paul V. and the Venetians, bears for imprint, 'In Villa
- Sanvincentiana apud Paulum Marcellum, sumptibus Caldorianae
- Societatis, anno 1607,' but is by no means of Spanish workmanship.
- I rather judge that the whole of the tracts connected with this
- business, which profess to have been printed at various places, as
- Augsburg, Saumur, Rome, Venice, &c., have their origin in the Low
- Countries, and proceeded from the presses of Antwerp, Rotterdam,
- or the Hague."]
-
-_Millers of Meath._--The millers of the county of Meath, in Ireland,
-keep St. Martin's day as a holiday. Why?
-
- [Greek: O.]
-
- [Because of the honour paid to St. Martin in the Western Church,
- whose festival had an octave. Formerly it was denominated
- Martinalia, and was held with as much festivity as the Vinalia of
- the Romans. Among old ecclesiastical writers, it usually obtained
- the title of the Second Bacchanal:
-
- "Altera Martinus dein Bacchanalia praebet;
- Quem colit anseribus populus multoque Lyaeo."
-
- Thomas Naogeorgus, _De Regno Pont_.
-
- Thus translated by Barnabie Googe:
-
- "To belly cheare yet once again doth Martin more encline,
- Whom all the people worshippeth with rosted geese and wine."]
-
-_Kissing under the Mistletoe._--What is the origin of kissing under the
-mistletoe?
-
- AN M.D.
-
- [Why Roger claims the privilege to kiss Margery under the
- mistletoe at Christmas, appears to have baffled our antiquaries.
- Brand states, that this druidic plant never entered our sacred
- edifices but by mistake, and consequently assigns it a place in
- the kitchen, where, says he, "it was hung up in great state, with
- its white berries; and whatever female chanced to stand under it,
- the young man present either had a right, or claimed one, of
- saluting her, and of plucking off a berry at each kiss." Nares,
- however, makes it rather ominous for the fair sex not to be
- saluted under the famed _Viscum album_. He says, "The custom
- longest preserved was the handing up of a bush of mistletoe in the
- kitchen, or servants' hall, with the charm attached to it, that
- the maid who was not kissed under it at Christmas, would not be
- married in that year."]
-
-_Trinity Chapel, Knightsbridge._--Was Trinity Chapel, Knightsbridge,
-which has been rebuilt several times, ever parochial? Can I be referred
-to any memoir of the Rev. ---- Gamble, Chaplain to H. R. H. the Duke of
-York, who in the early part of the present century was minister of it?
-
- H. G. D.
-
- [The chapel, dedicated to the Holy Trinity, belonged originally to
- an ancient hospital, or lazar-house, under the patronage of the
- abbot and convent of Westminster. It was rebuilt in 1629, at the
- cost of the inhabitants, by a license from Dr. Laud, then Bishop
- of London, as a chapel of ease to St. Martin's-in-the-Fields,
- within the precincts of which parish it was situated; but the site
- was subsequently assigned to the parish of St. George, Hanover
- Square, and at present forms a part of that of Kensington. The
- Rev. J. Gamble was minister of this chapel in 1794-5; in 1796 he
- was appointed chaplain of the forces, and in 1799 rector of
- Alphamstone, and also of Bradwell-juxta-Mare, in Essex. In 1805 he
- was married to Miss Lathom of Madras, by whom he had a son. His
- death took place at Knightsbridge, July 27, 1811.]
-
-"_Please the Pigs._"--Whence have we this very _free_ translation of Deo
-Volente?
-
- PORCUS.
-
- [This colloquial phrase is generally supposed to be a corruption
- of "Please the _Pyx_," a vessel in which the Host is kept. By an
- easy metonymy, the vessel is substituted for the Host itself, in
- the same manner as when we speak, in parliamentary language, of
- "the sense of the _House_,"--we refer not to the bricks and
- stones, but to the opinion of its honourable members.]
-
-_Meaning of Barnacles._--Can any of your readers throw any light on the
-term "barnacles," which is constantly used for "spectacles"? I need not
-say that the word in the singular number is the name of a shell-fish.
-
- PISCATOR.
-
- [Phillips, in his _World of Words_, tells us that "among farriers,
- _barnacles_, _horse-twitchers_, or _brakes_, are tools put on the
- nostrils of horses when they will not stand still to be shoed,"
- &c.; and the figure of the barnacle borne in heraldry (not
- barnacle goose, which is a distinct bearing), as engraved in
- Parker's _Glossary of Heraldry_, sufficiently shows why the term
- has been transferred to spectacles, which it must be remembered
- were formerly only kept on by the manner in which they clipped the
- nose.]
-
-_The Game of Curling._--As an enthusiastic lover of curling, I have been
-trying for some time past to discover any traces of the origin of the
-game, and the earliest mention made of it: but, I am sorry to say,
-without success.
-
-I should therefore feel much obliged to any of your correspondents who
-could inform me concerning the origin of this game, and also any works
-which may treat of it.
-
- "JOHN FROST."
-
- Paisley.
-
- [Appended to Dr. Brewster's account of curling, quoted in the
- _Encyclopaedia Metropolitana_, vol. xvii. p. 469., occurs the
- following historical notice of this winter amusement:--"Curling is
- a comparatively modern amusement in Scotland, and does not appear
- to have been introduced till the beginning of the sixteenth
- century, when it probably was brought over by the emigrant
- Flemings. It was originally known under the name of _kuting_,
- which perhaps is a corruption of the Teutonic _kleuyten_,
- _kalluyten_, rendered by Kilian in his _Dictionary_, _ludere
- massis sive globulis glaciatis, certare discis in aequore
- glaciata_. In Canada it has become a favourite amusement, on
- account of the great length of the winters."]
-
-
-
-
-Replies.
-
-
-SAINT IRENE AND THE ISLAND OF SANTORIN.
-
-(Vol. iv., p. 475.)
-
-Your correspondent [Greek: S] asks for information about St. Irene or
-St. Erini, from whom he thinks the Island of Santorin in the Grecian
-Archipelago acquired its name; and in reply, you have referred him to
-Smith's _Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography_, for particulars of
-the canonized Empress Irene.
-
-But [Greek: S] is, I suspect, mistaken in supposing Santorin to be
-indebted either to saint or empress for its present appellation;
-although he errs in company with Tournefort and a succession of later
-geographical etymologists, who in this instance have trusted too much
-to their _ear_ as an authority. Another correspondent in the same
-number, F. W. S. (p. 470.), has directed attention to a peculiarity
-in the formation of the modern names of places in Greece, the theory
-of which will guide [Greek: S] to the real derivation of the word
-Santorin. F. W. S. states truly that many of the recent names have been
-constructed by prefixing the preposition [Greek: eis] to the ancient
-one; thus ATHENS, [Greek: eis tas Athenas], became _Satines_, and COS,
-[Greek: eis ten Kon], _Stanco_. Lord Byron has explained this origin
-of the alteration in one of the notes to _Childe Harold_, I think; but
-I apprehend that the barbarism is to be charged less upon the modern
-Greeks themselves, than upon the European races, Sclavonians, Normans,
-and Venetians, and later still the Turks, who seized upon their country
-on the dismemberment of the Lower Empire. The Greeks themselves no doubt
-continued to spell their proper names correctly; but their invaders,
-ignorant of their orthography, and even of their letters, were forced
-to write the names of places in characters of their own, and guided
-solely by the sound. _Negropont_, the modern name of Euboea, is
-a notable instance of this. In the desolation which followed the Roman
-conquest, Euboea, as described by Pausanias and Dion, had become almost
-deserted, and, on its partial revival under the Eastern Empire, the old
-name of Euboea was abandoned, and the whole island took the name of
-Euripus, from a new town built on the shore of that remarkable strait.
-This, pronounced by the Greeks, Evripos, the Venetians, on their arrival
-in the thirteenth century, first changed into Egripo and _Negripo_, and
-next into Negro-_ponte_, after they had built a bridge across the
-Euripus. This last name, the island retains to the present time. Another
-familiar example is the modern name of Byzantium, _Stamboul_, by which
-both Greeks and Turks now speak of Constantinople. The Romans called
-their capital par excellence "the city" (in which, by the way, we
-ourselves imitate them when speaking of London). Among the ancient Jews,
-in like manner, to "go to the city," [Greek: hypagete eis ten polin],
-meant to go to Jerusalem (Matt., xxvi. 18., xxviii. 11.; Mark, xiv. 13.;
-Luke, xxii. 10.; John, iv. 18.; Acts, ix. 16.). The Greeks of the Lower
-Empire followed the example in speaking of Constantinople; and the
-Turks, on their conquest in the fifteenth century, adopting the
-provincialism, wrote [Greek: eis ten polin], _Istampoli_, and thence
-followed Istambol and Stamboul. The same theory will explain the modern
-word Santorin, about which your correspondent [Greek: S] requests
-information. The ancient name was _Thera_, and by this the island is
-described both by Herodotus and Strabo, and later still by Pliny.
-_Thera_, submitted to the usual process, became, from [Greek: eis ten
-Theran], _Stantheran_, _Santeran_, and finally _Santorin_. In the
-latter form it almost invited a saintly pedigree, and accordingly
-"Richard," a Jesuit, whose work I have seen, but cannot now consult,
-wrote, about two centuries ago, his _Relation de l'Isle de St. Erini_,
-in which, for the glory of the Church, he explains that the island
-obtained its name, not from the Empress Irene, but from a Saint Erine,
-whom he describes as the daughter of a Macedonian prefect, and from
-whom he says it was called [Greek: Nesos tes Hagias Eirenes]. I incline,
-however, to etymology rather than hagiology for the real derivation.
-
- J. EMERSON TENNENT.
-
-
-THE OLD COUNTESS OF DESMOND--WHO WAS SHE? NO. II.
-
-(Vol. iv., pp. 305. 426.)
-
-My "NOTES AND QUERIES" coming to me monthly, I am as yet in ignorance
-whether any of your numerous correspondents have answered my inquiry
-(Vol. iv., p. 306.): "Whether the portraits of 'the old Countess of
-Desmond,' at Knowle, Bedgebury, or Penshurst, correspond with my
-description of that in the possession of the Knight of Kerry?" I have
-since met a painter of eminence, who assures me that Horace Walpole's
-criticism is correct, and that the portraits commonly known as those of
-the Countess are really the likeness of "Rembrandt's mother." If they be
-identified with that I have described, the idea that we possess a
-"counterfeit presentment" of this ancient lady, must, I fear, be given
-up as a delusion.
-
-But the lady herself remains a "great fact," and a physiological
-curiosity; and there is yet a subject for inquiry respecting her. We may
-identify her on the herald's tree, if not on the painter's board or
-canvas. _Who was she?_ In attempting to discuss this question, I must
-not take a merit which does not belong to me in any thing. I may say I
-am but following out the original research of an accurate and
-accomplished antiquary, Mr. Samthell of Cork, of whose curious _Olla
-Podrida_ (privately printed) I possess, by his favour, a copy, which
-contains a paper on this subject originally read before "The Cork
-Cuvierian Society." This paper, together with some MSS. notes of Sir
-William Betham, Ulster king-at-arms, furnish my text-book; and I have
-little more to do than correct some mistakes, which appear to me so
-obvious, that I think they must arise from slips of the pen, or _slops_
-of that most teasing confounder of dates and figures, _the
-printer_,--who can so often, by merely dipping into a wrong cell of
-type, set us wrong by a century or two in a calculation.
-
-All authorities are agreed in fixing on "Margret O'Bryen, wife of James,
-9th Earl of Desmond," as the long-lived individual in question. Sir
-Walter Raleigh, by calling her "The old Countess of Desmond, of
-_Inchiquin_," determines the fact of her being of the O'Bryen
-race,--Inchiquin being the feudal territory of the O'Bryens. There was
-more than one intermarriage between the Desmond earls and the O'Bryen
-family; but none of them include all the conditions for identifying the
-"old Countess," except that I have specified.
-
-We now come to _dates_: and here it is that I have the presumption to
-question the conclusions of the two eminent antiquaries on whose
-researches I am remarking.
-
-"James Fitzgerald, ninth Earl of Desmond, was murdered by John Montagh
-Fitzgerald, of Clenglish, A.D. 1467, aetat 29," says one of my
-authorities. "The old Countess bore the title only for a few months, for
-she became dowager on the murder of her husband in 1467 (_not_ 1487),"
-adds my second authority. These are formidable _dicta_, coming from such
-sources; and if I venture to question them, it is only under pressure of
-such circumstances and authorities, as at least demand a hearing.
-
-I think both these gentlemen confound the _murder_ of James, the ninth
-Earl of Desmond, with the _execution_ of his father, Thomas, the eighth
-Earl, who, according to all annals and authorities, was beheaded at
-Drogheda in the year 1467. Of this fact there can be no question. Ware
-gives it in his _Annals_, stating that "John Tiptoft, Earl of Worcester,
-called a parliament at Drogheda, and passed a certain enactment, in
-virtue of which "the great Earl of Desmond was beheaded, 15th of
-February, 1467." We find the very act itself (in the _Cotton MSS.
-Titus_, B. xi. 373.) headed and running as follows:--"VII. Edw. Quarti"
-(1467). "Pur diverses causes, horribles treisons et felonies prepensez,
-et faitez per _Thomas_ Count de Desmond, et Thomas Count de Kildar," &c.
-&c.
-
-We now proceed with _Ware_ to the date 1487, and he writes thus:--"On
-the 7th of December, James Fitz-Thomas, a Geraldine, and Earl of
-Desmond, who, for almost twenty-_eight_ (?) years flourished in wealth
-and power, was suddenly and cruelly murdered by his servants in his
-house at Rathkeale in the county of Limerick." "This James dying without
-issue, at least issue male, his brother Morrish succeeded him; by whom,
-_John Mantagh_, the chief contriver of that murder, was soon after taken
-and slain." Here is a distinct statement from an annalist which may be
-contradicted by facts, but cannot be misunderstood as to meaning.
-
-The more I look at Mr. Samthell's account, the more I am disposed to
-consider the date he gives as a slip of the pen, or the result of that
-kind of confusion into which the most accurate mind will sometimes fall,
-from _too long_ and _intense_ consideration of the same point. I say
-this, because his own statements furnish at every step matter to confute
-his own conclusions: thus, he says, "Supposing the old Countess to have
-been _eighteen_ at her husband's death (and the Irish marry young), she
-would have been 140 years old in 1589." This calculation plainly
-_assumes_ the death to have taken place in 1467; but in a passage
-further on he says, "It will be remembered, that Thomas, _eighth_ Earl
-of Desmond, _father to Margret O'Bryen's husband_, was Lord Deputy of
-Ireland for the Duke Clarence, brother to Edw. IV., from 1462 to 1467!"
-And again, giving some brief notices of the earls from "A Pedigree of
-Sir William Betham's," he sets down, "8th earl, Thomas, beheaded A.D.
-1467; 9th earl, James (son of Thomas), murdered A.D. 1467;"--overlooking
-the fact, which would have been in itself _memorable_, that he makes the
-beheading of the father, and the murder of the son, to have taken place
-in the same year! Although I cannot ascertain whence Mr. Pelham took the
-dates which he has given in his print, I have no hesitation in adopting
-them, as agreeing best with all the probable circumstances of the case;
-he places Margret O'Bryen's birth in 1464, her death _somewhere_ from
-1620 to 1626; this would sufficiently tally with the opinion, that she
-was left a young widow at her husband's death in 1487, and agree with
-Sir Walter Raleigh's statement, that she "was living in 1589," and
-"_many years afterwards_." Lord Bacon's express words are, "_Certainly
-they report that within these few years_ the Countess of Desmond lived
-to an hundred and forty years of age." These words occur in his _History
-of Life and Death_, published in 1623, and add to the probability that
-the old lady was either lately dead, or that possibly, in the little
-intercourse between London and remote parts of the empire at that
-period, she might be _even then_ alive, without his knowledge.
-
-I submit these speculations to correction; and in venturing to dispute
-the conclusions of the authorities I have named, I feel myself somewhat
-in the position of a dwarf, who, climbing on the shoulder of a giant,
-should assume the airs of a tall man; but for the encouragement and
-assistance of the gentlemen I have named, I should probably never have
-known how even to state a genealogical or antiquarian question. I shall
-conclude by committing myself to your printer's mercy, trusting that he
-will be too magnanimous to take notice of my remarks on the "slip-slop"
-printing of figures, which will sometimes occur in the best offices; if
-he should misprint my figures, all my facts will fall to the ground.
-
- A. B. R.
-
- Belmont.
-
-In the Birch Collections at the British Museum there is a transcript of
-a Table-Book of Robert Sydney, second Earl of Leicester, made by Birch
-(_Add. MSS. 4161._), the following extract from which, P. C. S. S.
-believes will not be unacceptable to the readers of "NOTES AND QUERIES:"
-
- "The olde Countess of Desmond was a marryed woman in Edward IV.'s
- time, of England, and lived till towards the end of Queen
- Elizabeth, soe as she needes must be 140 yeares old: shee had a
- newe sett of teeth not long before her death, and might have lived
- much longer, had shee not mett with a kind of violent death; for
- she must needes climb a nutt-tree to gather nutts, soe falling
- downe, shee hurt her thigh, which brought a fever, and that fever
- brought death. This my cosen Walter Fitzwilliam told me. This olde
- lady, Mr. Harnet told me, came to petition the Queen, and landing
- at Bristol, shee came on foote to London, being then soe olde that
- her doughter was decrepit, and not able to come with her, but was
- brought in a little cart, their poverty not allowing them better
- provision of meanes. As I remember, Sir Walter Rowleigh, in some
- part of his _History_, speakes of her, and says that he saw her in
- England, anno 1589. Her death was as strange and remarkable as her
- long life was,--having seene the deaths of so many descended from
- her; and both her own and her husband's house ruined in the
- rebellion and wars."
-
- P. C. S. S.
-
-
-COLLAR OF SS.
-
-(Vol. ii., p. 140.; Vol. iv., pp. 147. 236. 456.)
-
-In my communication to you in August, 1850, and inserted as above, I
-stated that I was uncertain whether the collar of SS. was worn by the
-Chief Baron of the Exchequer previously to the reign of George I., as I
-had no portrait of that functionary of an earlier date.
-
-I have since found, and I ought to have sent you the fact before, that
-the Chief Baron, as well as the two Chief Justices, was decorated with
-this collar in the reign of Queen Elizabeth. In the church of St.
-Stephen's, near Canterbury, is the monument of Sir Roger Manwood, who
-died Lord Chief Baron on December 14, 1592, on which his bust appears in
-full judicial robes (colored proper), over which he wears the collar in
-its modern form.
-
- EDWARD FOSS.
-
-Was the collar of SS. worn by persons under a vow to make a pilgrimage
-to the Holy Land, or to join a crusade, the S. being the initial letter
-of Sepulcre, or SS. for Saint Sepulcre? The appearance of the
-above-mentioned collar on the effigy of a person in the habit of a
-pilgrim in the church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (see "NOTES AND QUERIES,"
-Vol. iv., p. 345.), so strongly confirms the idea, that I beg leave to
-offer it to the consideration of any readers of the "NOTES AND QUERIES"
-who may be interested in the question.
-
- E. J. M.
-
-
-Replies to Minor Queries.
-
-_Tregonwell Frampton_ (Vol. iv., p. 474.).--Noble mentions two
-engravings of this gentleman in the _Continuation to Granger_, vol. ii.
-p. 387., from a portrait by J. Wootton; the oldest, by J. Faber,
-describes him as "Royal Studkeeper at Newmarket;" the other, dated 1791,
-by J. Jones, styles him "the Father of the Turf;" and his death in 1728,
-aet. eighty-six, is recorded on a monument in the parish church of All
-Saints, Newmarket, as well as the circumstance of his having been keeper
-of the running horses to King William III. and his three royal
-successors.
-
-Frampton, according to Noble, who quotes from some other author, was a
-thorough good groom only, yet would have made a good minister of state
-had he been trained to it, and no one in his day was so well acquainted
-with the pedigrees of race-horses. I am not aware of there being any
-reference to Tregonwell Frampton in the _Rambler_, but he has frequently
-been denounced as the author of an unparalleled act of barbarity to a
-race-horse, which is detailed in the _Adventurer_, No. 37., as
-delicately as such a subject would permit. In justice to the accused I
-must say, that I always considered the story as physically impossible;
-and had this not been the case, it cannot be credited that the author
-of so great an enormity could have been continued in the service of the
-Crown. Still the essayist, who wrote nearly a century ago, thus closes
-his recital:--
-
- "When I had heard this horrid narrative, _which indeed I
- remembered to be true_, I turned about in honest confusion, and
- blushed that I was a man."
-
-I hope some of your correspondents may be able to clear Frampton from
-the dreadful imputation.
-
- B.
-
-_Longueville MSS._ (Vol. iii., p. 449.).--This collection (of 187
-volumes) is better known by the name of the _Yelverton MSS._, from
-having belonged to Sir Christopher Yelverton, Bart., who died in 1654,
-and whose son Henry (by Susan, Baroness Grey of Ruthin) was created
-Viscount Longueville in 1690. From him (who died in 1704) these MSS.
-descended to his grandson, Henry, third Earl of Sussex, who deceased in
-1799 without male issue. In April, 1781, this collection of MSS. (then
-stated to consist of 179 volumes, and eight wanting to complete the
-series) was offered for purchase to the trustees of the British Museum
-for 3000 guineas, and declined. The loss of these eight volumes is
-accounted for by a note of Gough (written in 1788), in Nichols'
-_Literary Anecdotes_, vol. iii. p. 622., by which it appears, that in
-1784 the collection was submitted to sale by public auction; but "_after
-the sale of a few lots_, the sale was stopped." Gough adds, "They were
-all given by Lord Sussex to Lord Calthorpe, whose mother was of that
-family [Barbara, eldest daughter of Henry, Viscount Longueville], and at
-his death had not been opened, nor perhaps since." These MSS. are now, I
-believe, in the possession of the present Lord Calthorpe.
-
- F. MADDEN.
-
-_Cooper's Miniature of Cromwell_ (Vol. iv., p. 368.).--The miniature of
-Oliver Cromwell, inquired for by LORD BRAYBROOKE, I think was shown to
-me at a party in London, about five or six years since, by Mr.
-Macgregor, M.P.,--at least I suppose it to be the same, though I had
-forgotten the name of the painter; but Mr. Macgregor prized it very
-highly, as being the only original miniature of Cromwell, and I think he
-said it was the one that had belonged to Sir Joshua Reynolds. This
-slight recollection of having seen it, is almost too vague to be worth
-alluding to, but as no one appears to have replied to the inquiry, it
-may lead to connecting the true history to the miniature, and thereby
-enhance its value.
-
- R.N.
-
-_Pope and Flatman_ (Vol. iv., p. 505.).--Your readers will probably be
-tired of the subject, still MR. BREEN may like to know that the
-resembling passages in the two copies in question, are quoted with the
-names of the authors in the sixty-third number of _The Adventurer_,
-dated _June 12, 1753_, and Pope is directly accused of _having copied
-from one of the vilest Pindaric writers, in the time of Charles II._
-
-The same paper, and a subsequent one, No. 95., contain some excellent
-remarks upon the allegation of resemblance between authors, and the
-charge of plagiarism so frequently raised upon it, but not always to be
-allowed with equal readiness.
-
-In conclusion, let me express a wish, that the essays which I have
-pointed out could be perused by some of your correspondents, because I
-am convinced that we should in future have fewer discussions on parallel
-passages, which seldom possess much real interest, and frequently have a
-tendency to injure the fair fame of our most gifted writers, by calling
-in question their literary honesty without establishing the charge
-brought against them.
-
- B.
-
-_Voltaire_ (Vol. iv., p. 457.).--Your correspondent J. R. is quite
-correct as to the name "Voltaire" being an anagram of "Arouet L. J." The
-fact, however, was first made public by M. Lepan in the _Details
-Preliminaires sur les Biographies de Voltaire_, prefixed to his _Vie
-Politique, Litteraire et Morale de Voltaire_, many years before the
-communications to the _Gentleman's Magazine_ and the _Dublin Review_,
-referred to by your correspondent.
-
-Your correspondent states that "Voltaire _was a little partial_ to his
-paternal name,"[7] and oddly enough gives two extracts from his letters
-to L'Abbe Moussinot, which prove the very contrary. Those extracts are
-_also_ to be found in M. Lepan's work, who has adduced them to show "son
-_mepris_ pour son nom de famille." _Vie de Voltaire_, p. 11. edit. 1817.
-
- JAMES CORNISH.
-
- [Footnote 7: This was a misprint for "_so little partial_."--ED.]
-
-_Tudur Aled_ (Vol. iv., p. 384.).--Your correspondent A STUDENT will
-find _nine_ poems by Tudur Aled, including the famous description of the
-Horse, in a 4to. collection of ancient Kymric poetry, published at
-Amwythig, in 1773, by Rhys Jones. It is entitled _Gorchestion Beirdd
-Cymrit_. Should A STUDENT wish to extend his acquaintance with this old
-bard, he will find other poems of his among the Welsh MSS. in the
-British Museum, in vols. 14,866. _et seq._
-
- T. S.
-
-_Latin Verse on Franklin_ (Vol. iv., p. 443.).--The verse "Eripuit
-coelo," &c., seems to be a parody of the following lines of Manilius
-(_Astronom._ I. 105.):--
-
- "Eripuitque Jovi fulmen, viresque tonanti."
-
-I am unable, however, to say who adapted these words to Franklin's
-career. Was it Condorcet?
-
- R.D.H.
-
-The inscription--
-
- "Eripuit coelo fulmen, sceptrumque tyrannis"
-
-under Franklin's portrait, was written by Mirabeau.
-
- JAMES CORNISH.
-
-
-
-
-Miscellaneous.
-
-
-NOTES ON BOOKS, SALES, CATALOGUES, ETC.
-
-When Mr. Wilkin, in the year 1836, gave to the world an edition of the
-works of his illustrious townsman, Sir Thomas Browne, the critics were
-unanimous in their praise both of the undertaking and of the manner in
-which the editor had executed his task. It was felt that the writings of
-so great a man--of one on whose style Johnson is supposed to have formed
-his own--and whose _Religio Medici_ he eulogized for "the novelty of the
-paradoxes, the dignity of sentiment, the quick succession of images, the
-multitude of abstruse allusions, the subtlety of disquisition, and the
-strength of language" to be found in it, ought to be made better known;
-and Mr. Wilkin's endeavour to make them so was lauded as it deserved.
-That attempt, however, was but feeble compared with the one now making
-by Mr. Bohn, who has undertaken to reproduce Mr. Wilkin's excellent
-edition of _The Works of Sir Thomas Browne_ in his _Antiquarian
-Library_. The first volume, containing Four Books of his _Enquiries into
-Common and Vulgar Errors_, has been issued; and, we need scarcely add,
-forms one which is not surpassed for learning, interest, or
-instructions, by any other in the very cheap and useful series to which
-it belongs.
-
-One of the most popular branches of botanical study at the present day
-is that of our British Ferns, from the very obvious causes--that they
-are objects of exquisite elegance--not very numerous, nor difficult to
-be procured--and, lastly, which may well account for their popularity
-with the dwellers in towns, who yet love to "babble of green fields" and
-be reminded of them--they are for the most part easily cultivated, and
-of all others are perhaps best adapted to parlour or window culture. Who
-then can doubt that, in preparing _A Popular History of the British
-Ferns and the allied Plants, comprising the Club-Mosses, Pepperworts,
-and Horse Tails_ (with its fifty admirable coloured representations of
-the most interesting species), Mr. Moore has done good service to the
-numerous fern growers already existing, and much to promote the further
-study of this highly interesting division of the vegetable world.
-Messrs. Reeve and Benham deserve great credit for the way in which they
-have seconded Mr. Moore's efforts, by the admirable manner in which the
-book has been got up.
-
-BOOKS RECEIVED.--_The Traveller's Library_, Part 13., containing two
-more of Mr. Macaulay's brilliant Essays, namely, those _On the Life and
-Writings of Addison, and on Horace Walpole_.--_Travels in Tartary,
-Thibet, and China during the Years 1844, '45, and '46_, by M. Huc:
-_translated from the French_, by W. Hazlitt. Vol. 1.--_Pictures of
-Travels in the South of France_, by Alexandre Dumas. These are two new
-volumes of the _National Illustrated Library_, and very interesting
-ones. The value of M. Huc's Travels in China may be judged of from the
-fact, that Sir John Davis having received some notes of them, considered
-them so interesting that he thought it right to embody them in a
-despatch to Lord Palmerston.--_The Mother's Legacie to her Unborne
-Childe._ By Elizabeth Joceline. _Reprinted from the Edition of 1625,
-with Biographical and Historical Introduction._ We may content ourselves
-with acknowledging the receipt of this handsome reprint, by the Messrs.
-Blackwood, as it forms the subject of a communication from the
-correspondent who first drew attention to this interesting volume in N.
-& Q., which we hope to print next week.--_Archaeologia Cambrensis for
-January, 1852._ This is an excellent number; and if this record of the
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