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diff --git a/1738.txt b/1738.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..54d4687 --- /dev/null +++ b/1738.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5099 @@ +The Project Gutenberg EBook of Statesman, by Plato + +This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere at no cost and with +almost no restrictions whatsoever. You may copy it, give it away or +re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License included +with this eBook or online at www.gutenberg.org + + +Title: Statesman + +Author: Plato + +Translator: Benjamin Jowett + +Posting Date: November 7, 2008 [EBook #1738] +Release Date: May, 1999 + +Language: English + +Character set encoding: ASCII + +*** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK STATESMAN *** + + + + +Produced by Sue Asscher + + + + + +STATESMAN + +By Plato + + +Translated by Benjamin Jowett + + + + +INTRODUCTION AND ANALYSIS. + +In the Phaedrus, the Republic, the Philebus, the Parmenides, and the +Sophist, we may observe the tendency of Plato to combine two or more +subjects or different aspects of the same subject in a single dialogue. +In the Sophist and Statesman especially we note that the discussion is +partly regarded as an illustration of method, and that analogies are +brought from afar which throw light on the main subject. And in his +later writings generally we further remark a decline of style, and of +dramatic power; the characters excite little or no interest, and +the digressions are apt to overlay the main thesis; there is not the +'callida junctura' of an artistic whole. Both the serious discussions +and the jests are sometimes out of place. The invincible Socrates is +withdrawn from view; and new foes begin to appear under old names. Plato +is now chiefly concerned, not with the original Sophist, but with the +sophistry of the schools of philosophy, which are making reasoning +impossible; and is driven by them out of the regions of transcendental +speculation back into the path of common sense. A logical or +psychological phase takes the place of the doctrine of Ideas in +his mind. He is constantly dwelling on the importance of regular +classification, and of not putting words in the place of things. He has +banished the poets, and is beginning to use a technical language. He is +bitter and satirical, and seems to be sadly conscious of the realities +of human life. Yet the ideal glory of the Platonic philosophy is not +extinguished. He is still looking for a city in which kings are either +philosophers or gods (compare Laws). + +The Statesman has lost the grace and beauty of the earlier dialogues. +The mind of the writer seems to be so overpowered in the effort of +thought as to impair his style; at least his gift of expression does +not keep up with the increasing difficulty of his theme. The idea of the +king or statesman and the illustration of method are connected, not like +the love and rhetoric of the Phaedrus, by 'little invisible pegs,' +but in a confused and inartistic manner, which fails to produce any +impression of a whole on the mind of the reader. Plato apologizes for +his tediousness, and acknowledges that the improvement of his audience +has been his only aim in some of his digressions. His own image may be +used as a motto of his style: like an inexpert statuary he has made the +figure or outline too large, and is unable to give the proper colours +or proportions to his work. He makes mistakes only to correct them--this +seems to be his way of drawing attention to common dialectical errors. +The Eleatic stranger, here, as in the Sophist, has no appropriate +character, and appears only as the expositor of a political ideal, in +the delineation of which he is frequently interrupted by purely logical +illustrations. The younger Socrates resembles his namesake in nothing +but a name. The dramatic character is so completely forgotten, that a +special reference is twice made to discussions in the Sophist; and this, +perhaps, is the strongest ground which can be urged for doubting the +genuineness of the work. But, when we remember that a similar allusion +is made in the Laws to the Republic, we see that the entire disregard +of dramatic propriety is not always a sufficient reason for doubting the +genuineness of a Platonic writing. + +The search after the Statesman, which is carried on, like that for +the Sophist, by the method of dichotomy, gives an opportunity for many +humorous and satirical remarks. Several of the jests are mannered and +laboured: for example, the turn of words with which the dialogue +opens; or the clumsy joke about man being an animal, who has a power +of two-feet--both which are suggested by the presence of Theodorus, the +geometrician. There is political as well as logical insight in refusing +to admit the division of mankind into Hellenes and Barbarians: 'if a +crane could speak, he would in like manner oppose men and all other +animals to cranes.' The pride of the Hellene is further humbled, +by being compared to a Phrygian or Lydian. Plato glories in this +impartiality of the dialectical method, which places birds in +juxtaposition with men, and the king side by side with the bird-catcher; +king or vermin-destroyer are objects of equal interest to science +(compare Parmen.). There are other passages which show that the irony +of Socrates was a lesson which Plato was not slow in learning--as, for +example, the passing remark, that 'the kings and statesmen of our day +are in their breeding and education very like their subjects;' or the +anticipation that the rivals of the king will be found in the class +of servants; or the imposing attitude of the priests, who are the +established interpreters of the will of heaven, authorized by law. +Nothing is more bitter in all his writings than his comparison of the +contemporary politicians to lions, centaurs, satyrs, and other animals +of a feebler sort, who are ever changing their forms and natures. But, +as in the later dialogues generally, the play of humour and the charm of +poetry have departed, never to return. + +Still the Politicus contains a higher and more ideal conception of +politics than any other of Plato's writings. The city of which there +is a pattern in heaven (Republic), is here described as a Paradisiacal +state of human society. In the truest sense of all, the ruler is not +man but God; and such a government existed in a former cycle of human +history, and may again exist when the gods resume their care of mankind. +In a secondary sense, the true form of government is that which has +scientific rulers, who are irresponsible to their subjects. Not power +but knowledge is the characteristic of a king or royal person. And the +rule of a man is better and higher than law, because he is more able +to deal with the infinite complexity of human affairs. But mankind, in +despair of finding a true ruler, are willing to acquiesce in any law or +custom which will save them from the caprice of individuals. They are +ready to accept any of the six forms of government which prevail in the +world. To the Greek, nomos was a sacred word, but the political idealism +of Plato soars into a region beyond; for the laws he would substitute +the intelligent will of the legislator. Education is originally to +implant in men's minds a sense of truth and justice, which is the divine +bond of states, and the legislator is to contrive human bonds, by which +dissimilar natures may be united in marriage and supply the deficiencies +of one another. As in the Republic, the government of philosophers, the +causes of the perversion of states, the regulation of marriages, are +still the political problems with which Plato's mind is occupied. He +treats them more slightly, partly because the dialogue is shorter, and +also because the discussion of them is perpetually crossed by the other +interest of dialectic, which has begun to absorb him. + +The plan of the Politicus or Statesman may be briefly sketched as +follows: (1) By a process of division and subdivision we discover the +true herdsman or king of men. But before we can rightly distinguish him +from his rivals, we must view him, (2) as he is presented to us in a +famous ancient tale: the tale will also enable us to distinguish the +divine from the human herdsman or shepherd: (3) and besides our fable, +we must have an example; for our example we will select the art of +weaving, which will have to be distinguished from the kindred arts; +and then, following this pattern, we will separate the king from his +subordinates or competitors. (4) But are we not exceeding all due +limits; and is there not a measure of all arts and sciences, to which +the art of discourse must conform? There is; but before we can apply +this measure, we must know what is the aim of discourse: and our +discourse only aims at the dialectical improvement of ourselves and +others.--Having made our apology, we return once more to the king or +statesman, and proceed to contrast him with pretenders in the same +line with him, under their various forms of government. (5) His +characteristic is, that he alone has science, which is superior to law +and written enactments; these do but spring out of the necessities of +mankind, when they are in despair of finding the true king. (6) The +sciences which are most akin to the royal are the sciences of the +general, the judge, the orator, which minister to him, but even these +are subordinate to him. (7) Fixed principles are implanted by education, +and the king or statesman completes the political web by marrying +together dissimilar natures, the courageous and the temperate, the bold +and the gentle, who are the warp and the woof of society. + +The outline may be filled up as follows:-- + +SOCRATES: I have reason to thank you, Theodorus, for the acquaintance of +Theaetetus and the Stranger. + +THEODORUS: And you will have three times as much reason to thank me +when they have delineated the Statesman and Philosopher, as well as the +Sophist. + +SOCRATES: Does the great geometrician apply the same measure to all +three? Are they not divided by an interval which no geometrical ratio +can express? + +THEODORUS: By the god Ammon, Socrates, you are right; and I am glad to +see that you have not forgotten your geometry. But before I retaliate on +you, I must request the Stranger to finish the argument... + +The Stranger suggests that Theaetetus shall be allowed to rest, and that +Socrates the younger shall respond in his place; Theodorus agrees to the +suggestion, and Socrates remarks that the name of the one and the face +of the other give him a right to claim relationship with both of them. +They propose to take the Statesman after the Sophist; his path they +must determine, and part off all other ways, stamping upon them a single +negative form (compare Soph.). + +The Stranger begins the enquiry by making a division of the arts and +sciences into theoretical and practical--the one kind concerned with +knowledge exclusively, and the other with action; arithmetic and the +mathematical sciences are examples of the former, and carpentering and +handicraft arts of the latter (compare Philebus). Under which of the two +shall we place the Statesman? Or rather, shall we not first ask, whether +the king, statesman, master, householder, practise one art or many? As +the adviser of a physician may be said to have medical science and to be +a physician, so the adviser of a king has royal science and is a king. +And the master of a large household may be compared to the ruler of a +small state. Hence we conclude that the science of the king, statesman, +and householder is one and the same. And this science is akin to +knowledge rather than to action. For a king rules with his mind, and not +with his hands. + +But theoretical science may be a science either of judging, like +arithmetic, or of ruling and superintending, like that of the architect +or master-builder. And the science of the king is of the latter nature; +but the power which he exercises is underived and uncontrolled,--a +characteristic which distinguishes him from heralds, prophets, and +other inferior officers. He is the wholesale dealer in command, and the +herald, or other officer, retails his commands to others. Again, a ruler +is concerned with the production of some object, and objects may be +divided into living and lifeless, and rulers into the rulers of living +and lifeless objects. And the king is not like the master-builder, +concerned with lifeless matter, but has the task of managing living +animals. And the tending of living animals may be either a tending of +individuals, or a managing of herds. And the Statesman is not a groom, +but a herdsman, and his art may be called either the art of managing +a herd, or the art of collective management:--Which do you prefer? 'No +matter.' Very good, Socrates, and if you are not too particular about +words you will be all the richer some day in true wisdom. But how would +you subdivide the herdsman's art? 'I should say, that there is one +management of men, and another of beasts.' Very good, but you are in too +great a hurry to get to man. All divisions which are rightly made should +cut through the middle; if you attend to this rule, you will be more +likely to arrive at classes. 'I do not understand the nature of my +mistake.' Your division was like a division of the human race into +Hellenes and Barbarians, or into Lydians or Phrygians and all other +nations, instead of into male and female; or like a division of number +into ten thousand and all other numbers, instead of into odd and even. +And I should like you to observe further, that though I maintain a class +to be a part, there is no similar necessity for a part to be a class. +But to return to your division, you spoke of men and other animals as +two classes--the second of which you comprehended under the general name +of beasts. This is the sort of division which an intelligent crane would +make: he would put cranes into a class by themselves for their special +glory, and jumble together all others, including man, in the class of +beasts. An error of this kind can only be avoided by a more regular +subdivision. Just now we divided the whole class of animals into +gregarious and non-gregarious, omitting the previous division into tame +and wild. We forgot this in our hurry to arrive at man, and found by +experience, as the proverb says, that 'the more haste the worse speed.' + +And now let us begin again at the art of managing herds. You have +probably heard of the fish-preserves in the Nile and in the ponds of the +Great King, and of the nurseries of geese and cranes in Thessaly. These +suggest a new division into the rearing or management of land-herds and +of water-herds:--I need not say with which the king is concerned. And +land-herds may be divided into walking and flying; and every idiot knows +that the political animal is a pedestrian. At this point we may take a +longer or a shorter road, and as we are already near the end, I see no +harm in taking the longer, which is the way of mesotomy, and accords +with the principle which we were laying down. The tame, walking, herding +animal, may be divided into two classes--the horned and the hornless, +and the king is concerned with the hornless; and these again may be +subdivided into animals having or not having cloven feet, or mixing or +not mixing the breed; and the king or statesman has the care of animals +which have not cloven feet, and which do not mix the breed. And now, if +we omit dogs, who can hardly be said to herd, I think that we have only +two species left which remain undivided: and how are we to distinguish +them? To geometricians, like you and Theaetetus, I can have no +difficulty in explaining that man is a diameter, having a power of two +feet; and the power of four-legged creatures, being the double of two +feet, is the diameter of our diameter. There is another excellent jest +which I spy in the two remaining species. Men and birds are both bipeds, +and human beings are running a race with the airiest and freest of +creation, in which they are far behind their competitors;--this is a +great joke, and there is a still better in the juxtaposition of the +bird-taker and the king, who may be seen scampering after them. For, +as we remarked in discussing the Sophist, the dialectical method is no +respecter of persons. But we might have proceeded, as I was saying, +by another and a shorter road. In that case we should have begun by +dividing land animals into bipeds and quadrupeds, and bipeds into winged +and wingless; we should than have taken the Statesman and set him over +the 'bipes implume,' and put the reins of government into his hands. + +Here let us sum up:--The science of pure knowledge had a part which +was the science of command, and this had a part which was a science of +wholesale command; and this was divided into the management of animals, +and was again parted off into the management of herds of animals, and +again of land animals, and these into hornless, and these into bipeds; +and so at last we arrived at man, and found the political and royal +science. And yet we have not clearly distinguished the political +shepherd from his rivals. No one would think of usurping the +prerogatives of the ordinary shepherd, who on all hands is admitted to +be the trainer, matchmaker, doctor, musician of his flock. But the royal +shepherd has numberless competitors, from whom he must be distinguished; +there are merchants, husbandmen, physicians, who will all dispute his +right to manage the flock. I think that we can best distinguish him by +having recourse to a famous old tradition, which may amuse as well as +instruct us; the narrative is perfectly true, although the scepticism of +mankind is prone to doubt the tales of old. You have heard what happened +in the quarrel of Atreus and Thyestes? 'You mean about the golden lamb?' +No, not that; but another part of the story, which tells how the sun +and stars once arose in the west and set in the east, and that the god +reversed their motion, as a witness to the right of Atreus. 'There is +such a story.' And no doubt you have heard of the empire of Cronos, and +of the earthborn men? The origin of these and the like stories is to be +found in the tale which I am about to narrate. + +There was a time when God directed the revolutions of the world, but +at the completion of a certain cycle he let go; and the world, by a +necessity of its nature, turned back, and went round the other way. +For divine things alone are unchangeable; but the earth and heavens, +although endowed with many glories, have a body, and are therefore +liable to perturbation. In the case of the world, the perturbation is +very slight, and amounts only to a reversal of motion. For the lord of +moving things is alone self-moved; neither can piety allow that he goes +at one time in one direction and at another time in another; or that God +has given the universe opposite motions; or that there are two gods, one +turning it in one direction, another in another. But the truth is, that +there are two cycles of the world, and in one of them it is governed by +an immediate Providence, and receives life and immortality, and in the +other is let go again, and has a reverse action during infinite ages. +This new action is spontaneous, and is due to exquisite perfection of +balance, to the vast size of the universe, and to the smallness of the +pivot upon which it turns. All changes in the heaven affect the animal +world, and this being the greatest of them, is most destructive to men +and animals. At the beginning of the cycle before our own very few of +them had survived; and on these a mighty change passed. For their life +was reversed like the motion of the world, and first of all coming to a +stand then quickly returned to youth and beauty. The white locks of the +aged became black; the cheeks of the bearded man were restored to their +youth and fineness; the young men grew softer and smaller, and, being +reduced to the condition of children in mind as well as body, began to +vanish away; and the bodies of those who had died by violence, in a few +moments underwent a parallel change and disappeared. In that cycle of +existence there was no such thing as the procreation of animals from one +another, but they were born of the earth, and of this our ancestors, who +came into being immediately after the end of the last cycle and at the +beginning of this, have preserved the recollection. Such traditions are +often now unduly discredited, and yet they may be proved by internal +evidence. For observe how consistent the narrative is; as the old +returned to youth, so the dead returned to life; the wheel of their +existence having been reversed, they rose again from the earth: a few +only were reserved by God for another destiny. Such was the origin of +the earthborn men. + +'And is this cycle, of which you are speaking, the reign of Cronos, +or our present state of existence?' No, Socrates, that blessed and +spontaneous life belongs not to this, but to the previous state, in +which God was the governor of the whole world, and other gods subject +to him ruled over parts of the world, as is still the case in certain +places. They were shepherds of men and animals, each of them sufficing +for those of whom he had the care. And there was no violence among them, +or war, or devouring of one another. Their life was spontaneous, because +in those days God ruled over man; and he was to man what man is now +to the animals. Under his government there were no estates, or private +possessions, or families; but the earth produced a sufficiency of all +things, and men were born out of the earth, having no traditions of +the past; and as the temperature of the seasons was mild, they took no +thought for raiment, and had no beds, but lived and dwelt in the open +air. + +Such was the age of Cronos, and the age of Zeus is our own. Tell me, +which is the happier of the two? Or rather, shall I tell you that the +happiness of these children of Cronos must have depended on how +they used their time? If having boundless leisure, and the power of +discoursing not only with one another but with the animals, they had +employed these advantages with a view to philosophy, gathering from +every nature some addition to their store of knowledge;--or again, if +they had merely eaten and drunk, and told stories to one another, and +to the beasts;--in either case, I say, there would be no difficulty in +answering the question. But as nobody knows which they did, the question +must remain unanswered. And here is the point of my tale. In the fulness +of time, when the earthborn men had all passed away, the ruler of +the universe let go the helm, and became a spectator; and destiny and +natural impulse swayed the world. At the same instant all the inferior +deities gave up their hold; the whole universe rebounded, and there was +a great earthquake, and utter ruin of all manner of animals. After a +while the tumult ceased, and the universal creature settled down in +his accustomed course, having authority over all other creatures, +and following the instructions of his God and Father, at first more +precisely, afterwards with less exactness. The reason of the falling off +was the disengagement of a former chaos; 'a muddy vesture of decay' +was a part of his original nature, out of which he was brought by his +Creator, under whose immediate guidance, while he remained in that +former cycle, the evil was minimized and the good increased to the +utmost. And in the beginning of the new cycle all was well enough, but +as time went on, discord entered in; at length the good was minimized +and the evil everywhere diffused, and there was a danger of universal +ruin. Then the Creator, seeing the world in great straits, and fearing +that chaos and infinity would come again, in his tender care again +placed himself at the helm and restored order, and made the world +immortal and imperishable. Once more the cycle of life and generation +was reversed; the infants grew into young men, and the young men became +greyheaded; no longer did the animals spring out of the earth; as the +whole world was now lord of its own progress, so the parts were to +be self-created and self-nourished. At first the case of men was very +helpless and pitiable; for they were alone among the wild beasts, and +had to carry on the struggle for existence without arts or knowledge, +and had no food, and did not know how to get any. That was the time when +Prometheus brought them fire, Hephaestus and Athene taught them arts, +and other gods gave them seeds and plants. Out of these human life was +framed; for mankind were left to themselves, and ordered their own ways, +living, like the universe, in one cycle after one manner, and in another +cycle after another manner. + +Enough of the myth, which may show us two errors of which we were guilty +in our account of the king. The first and grand error was in choosing +for our king a god, who belongs to the other cycle, instead of a man +from our own; there was a lesser error also in our failure to define +the nature of the royal functions. The myth gave us only the image of +a divine shepherd, whereas the statesmen and kings of our own day very +much resemble their subjects in education and breeding. On retracing our +steps we find that we gave too narrow a designation to the art which was +concerned with command-for-self over living creatures, when we called it +the 'feeding' of animals in flocks. This would apply to all shepherds, +with the exception of the Statesman; but if we say 'managing' or +'tending' animals, the term would include him as well. Having remodelled +the name, we may subdivide as before, first separating the human from +the divine shepherd or manager. Then we may subdivide the human art of +governing into the government of willing and unwilling subjects--royalty +and tyranny--which are the extreme opposites of one another, although we +in our simplicity have hitherto confounded them. + +And yet the figure of the king is still defective. We have taken up a +lump of fable, and have used more than we needed. Like statuaries, we +have made some of the features out of proportion, and shall lose time in +reducing them. Or our mythus may be compared to a picture, which is well +drawn in outline, but is not yet enlivened by colour. And to intelligent +persons language is, or ought to be, a better instrument of description +than any picture. 'But what, Stranger, is the deficiency of which you +speak?' No higher truth can be made clear without an example; every +man seems to know all things in a dream, and to know nothing when he is +awake. And the nature of example can only be illustrated by an example. +Children are taught to read by being made to compare cases in which they +do not know a certain letter with cases in which they know it, until +they learn to recognize it in all its combinations. Example comes into +use when we identify something unknown with that which is known, and +form a common notion of both of them. Like the child who is learning his +letters, the soul recognizes some of the first elements of things; +and then again is at fault and unable to recognize them when they are +translated into the difficult language of facts. Let us, then, take +an example, which will illustrate the nature of example, and will also +assist us in characterizing the political science, and in separating the +true king from his rivals. + +I will select the example of weaving, or, more precisely, weaving of +wool. In the first place, all possessions are either productive or +preventive; of the preventive sort are spells and antidotes, divine and +human, and also defences, and defences are either arms or screens, and +screens are veils and also shields against heat and cold, and shields +against heat and cold are shelters and coverings, and coverings are +blankets or garments, and garments are in one piece or have many parts; +and of these latter, some are stitched and others are fastened, and of +these again some are made of fibres of plants and some of hair, and of +these some are cemented with water and earth, and some are fastened with +their own material; the latter are called clothes, and are made by the +art of clothing, from which the art of weaving differs only in name, as +the political differs from the royal science. Thus we have drawn several +distinctions, but as yet have not distinguished the weaving of garments +from the kindred and co-operative arts. For the first process to which +the material is subjected is the opposite of weaving--I mean carding. +And the art of carding, and the whole art of the fuller and the mender, +are concerned with the treatment and production of clothes, as well as +the art of weaving. Again, there are the arts which make the weaver's +tools. And if we say that the weaver's art is the greatest and noblest +of those which have to do with woollen garments,--this, although true, +is not sufficiently distinct; because these other arts require to be +first cleared away. Let us proceed, then, by regular steps:--There are +causal or principal, and co-operative or subordinate arts. To the causal +class belong the arts of washing and mending, of carding and spinning +the threads, and the other arts of working in wool; these are chiefly +of two kinds, falling under the two great categories of composition and +division. Carding is of the latter sort. But our concern is chiefly with +that part of the art of wool-working which composes, and of which one +kind twists and the other interlaces the threads, whether the firmer +texture of the warp or the looser texture of the woof. These are adapted +to each other, and the orderly composition of them forms a woollen +garment. And the art which presides over these operations is the art of +weaving. + +But why did we go through this circuitous process, instead of saying +at once that weaving is the art of entwining the warp and the woof? In +order that our labour may not seem to be lost, I must explain the whole +nature of excess and defect. There are two arts of measuring--one is +concerned with relative size, and the other has reference to a mean or +standard of what is meet. The difference between good and evil is the +difference between a mean or measure and excess or defect. All things +require to be compared, not only with one another, but with the mean, +without which there would be no beauty and no art, whether the art of +the statesman or the art of weaving or any other; for all the arts guard +against excess or defect, which are real evils. This we must endeavour +to show, if the arts are to exist; and the proof of this will be +a harder piece of work than the demonstration of the existence of +not-being which we proved in our discussion about the Sophist. At +present I am content with the indirect proof that the existence of such +a standard is necessary to the existence of the arts. The standard or +measure, which we are now only applying to the arts, may be some day +required with a view to the demonstration of absolute truth. + +We may now divide this art of measurement into two parts; placing in +the one part all the arts which measure the relative size or number +of objects, and in the other all those which depend upon a mean or +standard. Many accomplished men say that the art of measurement has to +do with all things, but these persons, although in this notion of theirs +they may very likely be right, are apt to fail in seeing the differences +of classes--they jumble together in one the 'more' and the 'too much,' +which are very different things. Whereas the right way is to find the +differences of classes, and to comprehend the things which have any +affinity under the same class. + +I will make one more observation by the way. When a pupil at a school is +asked the letters which make up a particular word, is he not asked with +a view to his knowing the same letters in all words? And our enquiry +about the Statesman in like manner is intended not only to improve our +knowledge of politics, but our reasoning powers generally. Still less +would any one analyze the nature of weaving for its own sake. There +is no difficulty in exhibiting sensible images, but the greatest and +noblest truths have no outward form adapted to the eye of sense, and are +only revealed in thought. And all that we are now saying is said for the +sake of them. I make these remarks, because I want you to get rid of any +impression that our discussion about weaving and about the reversal of +the universe, and the other discussion about the Sophist and not-being, +were tedious and irrelevant. Please to observe that they can only be +fairly judged when compared with what is meet; and yet not with what is +meet for producing pleasure, nor even meet for making discoveries, but +for the great end of developing the dialectical method and sharpening +the wits of the auditors. He who censures us, should prove that, if our +words had been fewer, they would have been better calculated to make men +dialecticians. + +And now let us return to our king or statesman, and transfer to him the +example of weaving. The royal art has been separated from that of other +herdsmen, but not from the causal and co-operative arts which exist +in states; these do not admit of dichotomy, and therefore they must be +carved neatly, like the limbs of a victim, not into more parts than are +necessary. And first (1) we have the large class of instruments, which +includes almost everything in the world; from these may be parted off +(2) vessels which are framed for the preservation of things, moist or +dry, prepared in the fire or out of the fire. The royal or political art +has nothing to do with either of these, any more than with the arts +of making (3) vehicles, or (4) defences, whether dresses, or arms, or +walls, or (5) with the art of making ornaments, whether pictures or +other playthings, as they may be fitly called, for they have no serious +use. Then (6) there are the arts which furnish gold, silver, wood, bark, +and other materials, which should have been put first; these, again, +have no concern with the kingly science; any more than the arts (7) +which provide food and nourishment for the human body, and which furnish +occupation to the husbandman, huntsman, doctor, cook, and the like, but +not to the king or statesman. Further, there are small things, such as +coins, seals, stamps, which may with a little violence be comprehended +in one of the above-mentioned classes. Thus they will embrace every +species of property with the exception of animals,--but these have been +already included in the art of tending herds. There remains only the +class of slaves or ministers, among whom I expect that the real rivals +of the king will be discovered. I am not speaking of the veritable slave +bought with money, nor of the hireling who lets himself out for service, +nor of the trader or merchant, who at best can only lay claim to +economical and not to royal science. Nor am I referring to government +officials, such as heralds and scribes, for these are only the servants +of the rulers, and not the rulers themselves. I admit that there may be +something strange in any servants pretending to be masters, but I hardly +think that I could have been wrong in supposing that the principal +claimants to the throne will be of this class. Let us try once more: +There are diviners and priests, who are full of pride and prerogative; +these, as the law declares, know how to give acceptable gifts to +the gods, and in many parts of Hellas the duty of performing solemn +sacrifices is assigned to the chief magistrate, as at Athens to the +King Archon. At last, then, we have found a trace of those whom we were +seeking. But still they are only servants and ministers. + +And who are these who next come into view in various forms of men and +animals and other monsters appearing--lions and centaurs and satyrs--who +are these? I did not know them at first, for every one looks strange +when he is unexpected. But now I recognize the politician and his troop, +the chief of Sophists, the prince of charlatans, the most accomplished +of wizards, who must be carefully distinguished from the true king or +statesman. And here I will interpose a question: What are the true forms +of government? Are they not three--monarchy, oligarchy, and democracy? +and the distinctions of freedom and compulsion, law and no law, poverty +and riches expand these three into six. Monarchy may be divided into +royalty and tyranny; oligarchy into aristocracy and plutocracy; and +democracy may observe the law or may not observe it. But are any of +these governments worthy of the name? Is not government a science, and +are we to suppose that scientific government is secured by the rulers +being many or few, rich or poor, or by the rule being compulsory or +voluntary? Can the many attain to science? In no Hellenic city are there +fifty good draught players, and certainly there are not as many kings, +for by kings we mean all those who are possessed of the political +science. A true government must therefore be the government of one, or +of a few. And they may govern us either with or without law, and whether +they are poor or rich, and however they govern, provided they govern on +some scientific principle,--it makes no difference. And as the physician +may cure us with our will, or against our will, and by any mode of +treatment, burning, bleeding, lowering, fattening, if he only proceeds +scientifically: so the true governor may reduce or fatten or bleed the +body corporate, while he acts according to the rules of his art, and +with a view to the good of the state, whether according to law or +without law. + +'I do not like the notion, that there can be good government without +law.' + +I must explain: Law-making certainly is the business of a king; and yet +the best thing of all is, not that the law should rule, but that the +king should rule, for the varieties of circumstances are endless, and no +simple or universal rule can suit them all, or last for ever. The law is +just an ignorant brute of a tyrant, who insists always on his commands +being fulfilled under all circumstances. 'Then why have we laws at all?' +I will answer that question by asking you whether the training master +gives a different discipline to each of his pupils, or whether he has a +general rule of diet and exercise which is suited to the constitutions +of the majority? 'The latter.' The legislator, too, is obliged to lay +down general laws, and cannot enact what is precisely suitable to each +particular case. He cannot be sitting at every man's side all his life, +and prescribe for him the minute particulars of his duty, and therefore +he is compelled to impose on himself and others the restriction of a +written law. Let me suppose now, that a physician or trainer, having +left directions for his patients or pupils, goes into a far country, and +comes back sooner than he intended; owing to some unexpected change in +the weather, the patient or pupil seems to require a different mode of +treatment: Would he persist in his old commands, under the idea that all +others are noxious and heterodox? Viewed in the light of science, +would not the continuance of such regulations be ridiculous? And if the +legislator, or another like him, comes back from a far country, is he to +be prohibited from altering his own laws? The common people say: Let a +man persuade the city first, and then let him impose new laws. But is a +physician only to cure his patients by persuasion, and not by force? Is +he a worse physician who uses a little gentle violence in effecting the +cure? Or shall we say, that the violence is just, if exercised by a rich +man, and unjust, if by a poor man? May not any man, rich or poor, with +or without law, and whether the citizens like or not, do what is for +their good? The pilot saves the lives of the crew, not by laying down +rules, but by making his art a law, and, like him, the true governor +has a strength of art which is superior to the law. This is scientific +government, and all others are imitations only. Yet no great number +of persons can attain to this science. And hence follows an important +result. The true political principle is to assert the inviolability +of the law, which, though not the best thing possible, is best for the +imperfect condition of man. + +I will explain my meaning by an illustration:--Suppose that mankind, +indignant at the rogueries and caprices of physicians and pilots, call +together an assembly, in which all who like may speak, the skilled as +well as the unskilled, and that in their assembly they make decrees +for regulating the practice of navigation and medicine which are to +be binding on these professions for all time. Suppose that they elect +annually by vote or lot those to whom authority in either department is +to be delegated. And let us further imagine, that when the term of their +magistracy has expired, the magistrates appointed by them are summoned +before an ignorant and unprofessional court, and may be condemned and +punished for breaking the regulations. They even go a step further, and +enact, that he who is found enquiring into the truth of navigation and +medicine, and is seeking to be wise above what is written, shall be +called not an artist, but a dreamer, a prating Sophist and a corruptor +of youth; and if he try to persuade others to investigate those sciences +in a manner contrary to the law, he shall be punished with the utmost +severity. And like rules might be extended to any art or science. But +what would be the consequence? + +'The arts would utterly perish, and human life, which is bad enough +already, would become intolerable.' + +But suppose, once more, that we were to appoint some one as the guardian +of the law, who was both ignorant and interested, and who perverted the +law: would not this be a still worse evil than the other? 'Certainly.' +For the laws are based on some experience and wisdom. Hence the wiser +course is, that they should be observed, although this is not the best +thing of all, but only the second best. And whoever, having skill, +should try to improve them, would act in the spirit of the law-giver. +But then, as we have seen, no great number of men, whether poor or rich, +can be makers of laws. And so, the nearest approach to true government +is, when men do nothing contrary to their own written laws and national +customs. When the rich preserve their customs and maintain the law, this +is called aristocracy, or if they neglect the law, oligarchy. When an +individual rules according to law, whether by the help of science or +opinion, this is called monarchy; and when he has royal science he is +a king, whether he be so in fact or not; but when he rules in spite of +law, and is blind with ignorance and passion, he is called a tyrant. +These forms of government exist, because men despair of the true king +ever appearing among them; if he were to appear, they would joyfully +hand over to him the reins of government. But, as there is no natural +ruler of the hive, they meet together and make laws. And do we wonder, +when the foundation of politics is in the letter only, at the miseries +of states? Ought we not rather to admire the strength of the political +bond? For cities have endured the worst of evils time out of mind; +many cities have been shipwrecked, and some are like ships foundering, +because their pilots are absolutely ignorant of the science which they +profess. + +Let us next ask, which of these untrue forms of government is the least +bad, and which of them is the worst? I said at the beginning, that each +of the three forms of government, royalty, aristocracy, and democracy, +might be divided into two, so that the whole number of them, including +the best, will be seven. Under monarchy we have already distinguished +royalty and tyranny; of oligarchy there were two kinds, aristocracy and +plutocracy; and democracy may also be divided, for there is a democracy +which observes, and a democracy which neglects, the laws. The government +of one is the best and the worst--the government of a few is less bad +and less good--the government of the many is the least bad and least +good of them all, being the best of all lawless governments, and the +worst of all lawful ones. But the rulers of all these states, +unless they have knowledge, are maintainers of idols, and themselves +idols--wizards, and also Sophists; for, after many windings, the term +'Sophist' comes home to them. + +And now enough of centaurs and satyrs: the play is ended, and they +may quit the political stage. Still there remain some other and better +elements, which adhere to the royal science, and must be drawn off in +the refiner's fire before the gold can become quite pure. The arts of +the general, the judge, and the orator, will have to be separated from +the royal art; when the separation has been made, the nature of the king +will be unalloyed. Now there are inferior sciences, such as music and +others; and there is a superior science, which determines whether +music is to be learnt or not, and this is different from them, and the +governor of them. The science which determines whether we are to use +persuasion, or not, is higher than the art of persuasion; the science +which determines whether we are to go to war, is higher than the art of +the general. The science which makes the laws, is higher than that which +only administers them. And the science which has this authority over the +rest, is the science of the king or statesman. + +Once more we will endeavour to view this royal science by the light of +our example. We may compare the state to a web, and I will show you how +the different threads are drawn into one. You would admit--would +you not?--that there are parts of virtue (although this position is +sometimes assailed by Eristics), and one part of virtue is temperance, +and another courage. These are two principles which are in a manner +antagonistic to one another; and they pervade all nature; the whole +class of the good and beautiful is included under them. The beautiful +may be subdivided into two lesser classes: one of these is described +by us in terms expressive of motion or energy, and the other in terms +expressive of rest and quietness. We say, how manly! how vigorous! how +ready! and we say also, how calm! how temperate! how dignified! This +opposition of terms is extended by us to all actions, to the tones of +the voice, the notes of music, the workings of the mind, the characters +of men. The two classes both have their exaggerations; and the +exaggerations of the one are termed 'hardness,' 'violence,' 'madness;' +of the other 'cowardliness,' or 'sluggishness.' And if we pursue +the enquiry, we find that these opposite characters are naturally at +variance, and can hardly be reconciled. In lesser matters the antagonism +between them is ludicrous, but in the State may be the occasion of +grave disorders, and may disturb the whole course of human life. For +the orderly class are always wanting to be at peace, and hence they pass +imperceptibly into the condition of slaves; and the courageous sort are +always wanting to go to war, even when the odds are against them, and +are soon destroyed by their enemies. But the true art of government, +first preparing the material by education, weaves the two elements into +one, maintaining authority over the carders of the wool, and selecting +the proper subsidiary arts which are necessary for making the web. The +royal science is queen of educators, and begins by choosing the natures +which she is to train, punishing with death and exterminating those who +are violently carried away to atheism and injustice, and enslaving those +who are wallowing in the mire of ignorance. The rest of the citizens she +blends into one, combining the stronger element of courage, which we +may call the warp, with the softer element of temperance, which we +may imagine to be the woof. These she binds together, first taking +the eternal elements of the honourable, the good, and the just, and +fastening them with a divine cord in a heaven-born nature, and then +fastening the animal elements with a human cord. The good legislator can +implant by education the higher principles; and where they exist there +is no difficulty in inserting the lesser human bonds, by which the State +is held together; these are the laws of intermarriage, and of union for +the sake of offspring. Most persons in their marriages seek after +wealth or power; or they are clannish, and choose those who are like +themselves,--the temperate marrying the temperate, and the courageous +the courageous. The two classes thrive and flourish at first, but they +soon degenerate; the one become mad, and the other feeble and useless. +This would not have been the case, if they had both originally held +the same notions about the honourable and the good; for then they +never would have allowed the temperate natures to be separated from the +courageous, but they would have bound them together by common honours +and reputations, by intermarriages, and by the choice of rulers who +combine both qualities. The temperate are careful and just, but are +wanting in the power of action; the courageous fall short of them in +justice, but in action are superior to them: and no state can prosper in +which either of these qualities is wanting. The noblest and best of all +webs or states is that which the royal science weaves, combining the two +sorts of natures in a single texture, and in this enfolding freeman and +slave and every other social element, and presiding over them all. + +'Your picture, Stranger, of the king and statesman, no less than of the +Sophist, is quite perfect.' + +... + +The principal subjects in the Statesman may be conveniently embraced +under six or seven heads:--(1) the myth; (2) the dialectical interest; +(3) the political aspects of the dialogue; (4) the satirical and +paradoxical vein; (5) the necessary imperfection of law; (6) the +relation of the work to the other writings of Plato; lastly (7), we may +briefly consider the genuineness of the Sophist and Statesman, which +can hardly be assumed without proof, since the two dialogues have +been questioned by three such eminent Platonic scholars as Socher, +Schaarschmidt, and Ueberweg. + +I. The hand of the master is clearly visible in the myth. First in the +connection with mythology;--he wins a kind of verisimilitude for this +as for his other myths, by adopting received traditions, of which he +pretends to find an explanation in his own larger conception (compare +Introduction to Critias). The young Socrates has heard of the sun rising +in the west and setting in the east, and of the earth-born men; but he +has never heard the origin of these remarkable phenomena. Nor is Plato, +here or elsewhere, wanting in denunciations of the incredulity of 'this +latter age,' on which the lovers of the marvellous have always delighted +to enlarge. And he is not without express testimony to the truth of his +narrative;--such testimony as, in the Timaeus, the first men gave of the +names of the gods ('They must surely have known their own ancestors'). +For the first generation of the new cycle, who lived near the time, are +supposed to have preserved a recollection of a previous one. He also +appeals to internal evidence, viz. the perfect coherence of the tale, +though he is very well aware, as he says in the Cratylus, that there may +be consistency in error as well as in truth. The gravity and minuteness +with which some particulars are related also lend an artful aid. The +profound interest and ready assent of the young Socrates, who is not too +old to be amused 'with a tale which a child would love to hear,' are a +further assistance. To those who were naturally inclined to believe that +the fortunes of mankind are influenced by the stars, or who maintained +that some one principle, like the principle of the Same and the Other +in the Timaeus, pervades all things in the world, the reversal of the +motion of the heavens seemed necessarily to produce a reversal of the +order of human life. The spheres of knowledge, which to us appear wide +asunder as the poles, astronomy and medicine, were naturally connected +in the minds of early thinkers, because there was little or nothing in +the space between them. Thus there is a basis of philosophy, on which +the improbabilities of the tale may be said to rest. These are some of +the devices by which Plato, like a modern novelist, seeks to familiarize +the marvellous. + +The myth, like that of the Timaeus and Critias, is rather historical +than poetical, in this respect corresponding to the general change in +the later writings of Plato, when compared with the earlier ones. It +is hardly a myth in the sense in which the term might be applied to the +myth of the Phaedrus, the Republic, the Phaedo, or the Gorgias, but +may be more aptly compared with the didactic tale in which Protagoras +describes the fortunes of primitive man, or with the description of +the gradual rise of a new society in the Third Book of the Laws. Some +discrepancies may be observed between the mythology of the Statesman and +the Timaeus, and between the Timaeus and the Republic. But there is no +reason to expect that all Plato's visions of a former, any more than +of a future, state of existence, should conform exactly to the same +pattern. We do not find perfect consistency in his philosophy; and still +less have we any right to demand this of him in his use of mythology and +figures of speech. And we observe that while employing all the resources +of a writer of fiction to give credibility to his tales, he is not +disposed to insist upon their literal truth. Rather, as in the Phaedo, +he says, 'Something of the kind is true;' or, as in the Gorgias, 'This +you will think to be an old wife's tale, but you can think of nothing +truer;' or, as in the Statesman, he describes his work as a 'mass of +mythology,' which was introduced in order to teach certain lessons; or, +as in the Phaedrus, he secretly laughs at such stories while refusing to +disturb the popular belief in them. + +The greater interest of the myth consists in the philosophical lessons +which Plato presents to us in this veiled form. Here, as in the tale +of Er, the son of Armenius, he touches upon the question of freedom and +necessity, both in relation to God and nature. For at first the universe +is governed by the immediate providence of God,--this is the golden +age,--but after a while the wheel is reversed, and man is left to +himself. Like other theologians and philosophers, Plato relegates his +explanation of the problem to a transcendental world; he speaks of what +in modern language might be termed 'impossibilities in the nature of +things,' hindering God from continuing immanent in the world. But there +is some inconsistency; for the 'letting go' is spoken of as a divine +act, and is at the same time attributed to the necessary imperfection of +matter; there is also a numerical necessity for the successive births +of souls. At first, man and the world retain their divine instincts, but +gradually degenerate. As in the Book of Genesis, the first fall of +man is succeeded by a second; the misery and wickedness of the world +increase continually. The reason of this further decline is supposed to +be the disorganisation of matter: the latent seeds of a former chaos are +disengaged, and envelope all things. The condition of man becomes more +and more miserable; he is perpetually waging an unequal warfare with the +beasts. At length he obtains such a measure of education and help as is +necessary for his existence. Though deprived of God's help, he is not +left wholly destitute; he has received from Athene and Hephaestus a +knowledge of the arts; other gods give him seeds and plants; and out of +these human life is reconstructed. He now eats bread in the sweat of his +brow, and has dominion over the animals, subjected to the conditions of +his nature, and yet able to cope with them by divine help. Thus Plato +may be said to represent in a figure--(1) the state of innocence; (2) +the fall of man; (3) the still deeper decline into barbarism; (4) the +restoration of man by the partial interference of God, and the natural +growth of the arts and of civilised society. Two lesser features of +this description should not pass unnoticed:--(1) the primitive men are +supposed to be created out of the earth, and not after the ordinary +manner of human generation--half the causes of moral evil are in this +way removed; (2) the arts are attributed to a divine revelation: and so +the greatest difficulty in the history of pre-historic man is solved. +Though no one knew better than Plato that the introduction of the gods +is not a reason, but an excuse for not giving a reason (Cratylus), yet, +considering that more than two thousand years later mankind are still +discussing these problems, we may be satisfied to find in Plato a +statement of the difficulties which arise in conceiving the relation of +man to God and nature, without expecting to obtain from him a solution +of them. In such a tale, as in the Phaedrus, various aspects of the +Ideas were doubtless indicated to Plato's own mind, as the corresponding +theological problems are to us. The immanence of things in the Ideas, or +the partial separation of them, and the self-motion of the supreme +Idea, are probably the forms in which he would have interpreted his own +parable. + +He touches upon another question of great interest--the consciousness of +evil--what in the Jewish Scriptures is called 'eating of the tree of the +knowledge of good and evil.' At the end of the narrative, the Eleatic +asks his companion whether this life of innocence, or that which men +live at present, is the better of the two. He wants to distinguish +between the mere animal life of innocence, the 'city of pigs,' as it +is comically termed by Glaucon in the Republic, and the higher life of +reason and philosophy. But as no one can determine the state of man +in the world before the Fall, 'the question must remain unanswered.' +Similar questions have occupied the minds of theologians in later ages; +but they can hardly be said to have found an answer. Professor Campbell +well observes, that the general spirit of the myth may be summed up in +the words of the Lysis: 'If evil were to perish, should we hunger any +more, or thirst any more, or have any similar sensations? Yet perhaps +the question what will or will not be is a foolish one, for who can +tell?' As in the Theaetetus, evil is supposed to continue,--here, as the +consequence of a former state of the world, a sort of mephitic vapour +exhaling from some ancient chaos,--there, as involved in the possibility +of good, and incident to the mixed state of man. + +Once more--and this is the point of connexion with the rest of the +dialogue--the myth is intended to bring out the difference between the +ideal and the actual state of man. In all ages of the world men have +dreamed of a state of perfection, which has been, and is to be, but +never is, and seems to disappear under the necessary conditions of human +society. The uselessness, the danger, the true value of such political +ideals have often been discussed; youth is too ready to believe in +them; age to disparage them. Plato's 'prudens quaestio' respecting the +comparative happiness of men in this and in a former cycle of existence +is intended to elicit this contrast between the golden age and 'the +life under Zeus' which is our own. To confuse the divine and human, or +hastily apply one to the other, is a 'tremendous error.' Of the ideal +or divine government of the world we can form no true or adequate +conception; and this our mixed state of life, in which we are partly +left to ourselves, but not wholly deserted by the gods, may contain some +higher elements of good and knowledge than could have existed in the +days of innocence under the rule of Cronos. So we may venture slightly +to enlarge a Platonic thought which admits of a further application to +Christian theology. Here are suggested also the distinctions between +God causing and permitting evil, and between his more and less immediate +government of the world. + +II. The dialectical interest of the Statesman seems to contend in +Plato's mind with the political; the dialogue might have been +designated by two equally descriptive titles--either the 'Statesman,' or +'Concerning Method.' Dialectic, which in the earlier writings of Plato +is a revival of the Socratic question and answer applied to definition, +is now occupied with classification; there is nothing in which he takes +greater delight than in processes of division (compare Phaedr.); he +pursues them to a length out of proportion to his main subject, and +appears to value them as a dialectical exercise, and for their own sake. +A poetical vision of some order or hierarchy of ideas or sciences has +already been floating before us in the Symposium and the Republic. And +in the Phaedrus this aspect of dialectic is further sketched out, +and the art of rhetoric is based on the division of the characters +of mankind into their several classes. The same love of divisions is +apparent in the Gorgias. But in a well-known passage of the Philebus +occurs the first criticism on the nature of classification. There we +are exhorted not to fall into the common error of passing from unity to +infinity, but to find the intermediate classes; and we are reminded that +in any process of generalization, there may be more than one class to +which individuals may be referred, and that we must carry on the process +of division until we have arrived at the infima species. + +These precepts are not forgotten, either in the Sophist or in the +Statesman. The Sophist contains four examples of division, carried on +by regular steps, until in four different lines of descent we detect +the Sophist. In the Statesman the king or statesman is discovered by +a similar process; and we have a summary, probably made for the first +time, of possessions appropriated by the labour of man, which are +distributed into seven classes. We are warned against preferring the +shorter to the longer method;--if we divide in the middle, we are most +likely to light upon species; at the same time, the important remark +is made, that 'a part is not to be confounded with a class.' Having +discovered the genus under which the king falls, we proceed to +distinguish him from the collateral species. To assist our imagination +in making this separation, we require an example. The higher ideas, +of which we have a dreamy knowledge, can only be represented by images +taken from the external world. But, first of all, the nature of example +is explained by an example. The child is taught to read by comparing +the letters in words which he knows with the same letters in unknown +combinations; and this is the sort of process which we are about to +attempt. As a parallel to the king we select the worker in wool, and +compare the art of weaving with the royal science, trying to separate +either of them from the inferior classes to which they are akin. This +has the incidental advantage, that weaving and the web furnish us with a +figure of speech, which we can afterwards transfer to the State. + +There are two uses of examples or images--in the first place, they +suggest thoughts--secondly, they give them a distinct form. In the +infancy of philosophy, as in childhood, the language of pictures is +natural to man: truth in the abstract is hardly won, and only by use +familiarized to the mind. Examples are akin to analogies, and have a +reflex influence on thought; they people the vacant mind, and may often +originate new directions of enquiry. Plato seems to be conscious of the +suggestiveness of imagery; the general analogy of the arts is constantly +employed by him as well as the comparison of particular arts--weaving, +the refining of gold, the learning to read, music, statuary, painting, +medicine, the art of the pilot--all of which occur in this dialogue +alone: though he is also aware that 'comparisons are slippery things,' +and may often give a false clearness to ideas. We shall find, in the +Philebus, a division of sciences into practical and speculative, and +into more or less speculative: here we have the idea of master-arts, +or sciences which control inferior ones. Besides the supreme science +of dialectic, 'which will forget us, if we forget her,' another +master-science for the first time appears in view--the science of +government, which fixes the limits of all the rest. This conception +of the political or royal science as, from another point of view, the +science of sciences, which holds sway over the rest, is not originally +found in Aristotle, but in Plato. + +The doctrine that virtue and art are in a mean, which is familiarized +to us by the study of the Nicomachean Ethics, is also first distinctly +asserted in the Statesman of Plato. The too much and the too little +are in restless motion: they must be fixed by a mean, which is also +a standard external to them. The art of measuring or finding a mean +between excess and defect, like the principle of division in the +Phaedrus, receives a particular application to the art of discourse. The +excessive length of a discourse may be blamed; but who can say what is +excess, unless he is furnished with a measure or standard? Measure is +the life of the arts, and may some day be discovered to be the single +ultimate principle in which all the sciences are contained. Other forms +of thought may be noted--the distinction between causal and co-operative +arts, which may be compared with the distinction between primary and +co-operative causes in the Timaeus; or between cause and condition in +the Phaedo; the passing mention of economical science; the opposition of +rest and motion, which is found in all nature; the general conception +of two great arts of composition and division, in which are contained +weaving, politics, dialectic; and in connexion with the conception of a +mean, the two arts of measuring. + +In the Theaetetus, Plato remarks that precision in the use of terms, +though sometimes pedantic, is sometimes necessary. Here he makes the +opposite reflection, that there may be a philosophical disregard of +words. The evil of mere verbal oppositions, the requirement of an +impossible accuracy in the use of terms, the error of supposing that +philosophy was to be found in language, the danger of word-catching, +have frequently been discussed by him in the previous dialogues, but +nowhere has the spirit of modern inductive philosophy been more happily +indicated than in the words of the Statesman:--'If you think more about +things, and less about words, you will be richer in wisdom as you grow +older.' A similar spirit is discernible in the remarkable expressions, +'the long and difficult language of facts;' and 'the interrogation of +every nature, in order to obtain the particular contribution of each to +the store of knowledge.' Who has described 'the feeble intelligence of +all things; given by metaphysics better than the Eleatic Stranger in +the words--'The higher ideas can hardly be set forth except through +the medium of examples; every man seems to know all things in a kind of +dream, and then again nothing when he is awake?' Or where is the value +of metaphysical pursuits more truly expressed than in the words,--'The +greatest and noblest things have no outward image of themselves visible +to man: therefore we should learn to give a rational account of them?' + +III. The political aspects of the dialogue are closely connected +with the dialectical. As in the Cratylus, the legislator has 'the +dialectician standing on his right hand;' so in the Statesman, the king +or statesman is the dialectician, who, although he may be in a private +station, is still a king. Whether he has the power or not, is a mere +accident; or rather he has the power, for what ought to be is ('Was +ist vernunftig, das ist wirklich'); and he ought to be and is the true +governor of mankind. There is a reflection in this idealism of the +Socratic 'Virtue is knowledge;' and, without idealism, we may remark +that knowledge is a great part of power. Plato does not trouble himself +to construct a machinery by which 'philosophers shall be made kings,' as +in the Republic: he merely holds up the ideal, and affirms that in some +sense science is really supreme over human life. + +He is struck by the observation 'quam parva sapientia regitur mundus,' +and is touched with a feeling of the ills which afflict states. The +condition of Megara before and during the Peloponnesian War, of Athens +under the Thirty and afterwards, of Syracuse and the other Sicilian +cities in their alternations of democratic excess and tyranny, might +naturally suggest such reflections. Some states he sees already +shipwrecked, others foundering for want of a pilot; and he wonders not +at their destruction, but at their endurance. For they ought to have +perished long ago, if they had depended on the wisdom of their rulers. +The mingled pathos and satire of this remark is characteristic of +Plato's later style. + +The king is the personification of political science. And yet he is +something more than this,--the perfectly good and wise tyrant of the +Laws, whose will is better than any law. He is the special providence +who is always interfering with and regulating all things. Such a +conception has sometimes been entertained by modern theologians, and by +Plato himself, of the Supreme Being. But whether applied to Divine or +to human governors the conception is faulty for two reasons, neither of +which are noticed by Plato:--first, because all good government supposes +a degree of co-operation in the ruler and his subjects,--an 'education +in politics' as well as in moral virtue; secondly, because government, +whether Divine or human, implies that the subject has a previous +knowledge of the rules under which he is living. There is a fallacy, +too, in comparing unchangeable laws with a personal governor. For the +law need not necessarily be an 'ignorant and brutal tyrant,' but gentle +and humane, capable of being altered in the spirit of the legislator, +and of being administered so as to meet the cases of individuals. Not +only in fact, but in idea, both elements must remain--the fixed law +and the living will; the written word and the spirit; the principles of +obligation and of freedom; and their applications whether made by law or +equity in particular cases. + +There are two sides from which positive laws may be attacked:--either +from the side of nature, which rises up and rebels against them in the +spirit of Callicles in the Gorgias; or from the side of idealism, which +attempts to soar above them,--and this is the spirit of Plato in the +Statesman. But he soon falls, like Icarus, and is content to walk +instead of flying; that is, to accommodate himself to the actual state +of human things. Mankind have long been in despair of finding the true +ruler; and therefore are ready to acquiesce in any of the five or six +received forms of government as better than none. And the best thing +which they can do (though only the second best in reality), is to reduce +the ideal state to the conditions of actual life. Thus in the Statesman, +as in the Laws, we have three forms of government, which we may venture +to term, (1) the ideal, (2) the practical, (3) the sophistical--what +ought to be, what might be, what is. And thus Plato seems to stumble, +almost by accident, on the notion of a constitutional monarchy, or of a +monarchy ruling by laws. + +The divine foundations of a State are to be laid deep in education +(Republic), and at the same time some little violence may be used in +exterminating natures which are incapable of education (compare Laws). +Plato is strongly of opinion that the legislator, like the physician, +may do men good against their will (compare Gorgias). The human bonds +of states are formed by the inter-marriage of dispositions adapted to +supply the defects of each other. As in the Republic, Plato has observed +that there are opposite natures in the world, the strong and the gentle, +the courageous and the temperate, which, borrowing an expression derived +from the image of weaving, he calls the warp and the woof of human +society. To interlace these is the crowning achievement of political +science. In the Protagoras, Socrates was maintaining that there was only +one virtue, and not many: now Plato is inclined to think that there +are not only parallel, but opposite virtues, and seems to see a similar +opposition pervading all art and nature. But he is satisfied with laying +down the principle, and does not inform us by what further steps the +union of opposites is to be effected. + +In the loose framework of a single dialogue Plato has thus combined two +distinct subjects--politics and method. Yet they are not so far apart +as they appear: in his own mind there was a secret link of connexion +between them. For the philosopher or dialectician is also the only true +king or statesman. In the execution of his plan Plato has invented or +distinguished several important forms of thought, and made incidentally +many valuable remarks. Questions of interest both in ancient and modern +politics also arise in the course of the dialogue, which may with +advantage be further considered by us:-- + +a. The imaginary ruler, whether God or man, is above the law, and is a +law to himself and to others. Among the Greeks as among the Jews, law +was a sacred name, the gift of God, the bond of states. But in the +Statesman of Plato, as in the New Testament, the word has also become +the symbol of an imperfect good, which is almost an evil. The law +sacrifices the individual to the universal, and is the tyranny of the +many over the few (compare Republic). It has fixed rules which are the +props of order, and will not swerve or bend in extreme cases. It is +the beginning of political society, but there is something higher--an +intelligent ruler, whether God or man, who is able to adapt himself to +the endless varieties of circumstances. Plato is fond of picturing the +advantages which would result from the union of the tyrant who has power +with the legislator who has wisdom: he regards this as the best and +speediest way of reforming mankind. But institutions cannot thus be +artificially created, nor can the external authority of a ruler impose +laws for which a nation is unprepared. The greatest power, the highest +wisdom, can only proceed one or two steps in advance of public opinion. +In all stages of civilization human nature, after all our efforts, +remains intractable,--not like clay in the hands of the potter, or +marble under the chisel of the sculptor. Great changes occur in the +history of nations, but they are brought about slowly, like the changes +in the frame of nature, upon which the puny arm of man hardly makes an +impression. And, speaking generally, the slowest growths, both in nature +and in politics, are the most permanent. + +b. Whether the best form of the ideal is a person or a law may fairly be +doubted. The former is more akin to us: it clothes itself in poetry and +art, and appeals to reason more in the form of feeling: in the latter +there is less danger of allowing ourselves to be deluded by a figure +of speech. The ideal of the Greek state found an expression in the +deification of law: the ancient Stoic spoke of a wise man perfect in +virtue, who was fancifully said to be a king; but neither they nor Plato +had arrived at the conception of a person who was also a law. Nor is it +easy for the Christian to think of God as wisdom, truth, holiness, and +also as the wise, true, and holy one. He is always wanting to break +through the abstraction and interrupt the law, in order that he may +present to himself the more familiar image of a divine friend. While +the impersonal has too slender a hold upon the affections to be made the +basis of religion, the conception of a person on the other hand tends to +degenerate into a new kind of idolatry. Neither criticism nor experience +allows us to suppose that there are interferences with the laws of +nature; the idea is inconceivable to us and at variance with facts. The +philosopher or theologian who could realize to mankind that a person +is a law, that the higher rule has no exception, that goodness, like +knowledge, is also power, would breathe a new religious life into the +world. + +c. Besides the imaginary rule of a philosopher or a God, the actual +forms of government have to be considered. In the infancy of political +science, men naturally ask whether the rule of the many or of the few is +to be preferred. If by 'the few' we mean 'the good' and by 'the many,' +'the bad,' there can be but one reply: 'The rule of one good man +is better than the rule of all the rest, if they are bad.' For, as +Heracleitus says, 'One is ten thousand if he be the best.' If, however, +we mean by the rule of the few the rule of a class neither better nor +worse than other classes, not devoid of a feeling of right, but guided +mostly by a sense of their own interests, and by the rule of the many +the rule of all classes, similarly under the influence of mixed motives, +no one would hesitate to answer--'The rule of all rather than one, +because all classes are more likely to take care of all than one of +another; and the government has greater power and stability when resting +on a wider basis.' Both in ancient and modern times the best balanced +form of government has been held to be the best; and yet it should not +be so nicely balanced as to make action and movement impossible. + +The statesman who builds his hope upon the aristocracy, upon the +middle classes, upon the people, will probably, if he have sufficient +experience of them, conclude that all classes are much alike, and that +one is as good as another, and that the liberties of no class are +safe in the hands of the rest. The higher ranks have the advantage in +education and manners, the middle and lower in industry and self-denial; +in every class, to a certain extent, a natural sense of right prevails, +sometimes communicated from the lower to the higher, sometimes from the +higher to the lower, which is too strong for class interests. There have +been crises in the history of nations, as at the time of the Crusades or +the Reformation, or the French Revolution, when the same inspiration has +taken hold of whole peoples, and permanently raised the sense of freedom +and justice among mankind. + +But even supposing the different classes of a nation, when viewed +impartially, to be on a level with each other in moral virtue, there +remain two considerations of opposite kinds which enter into the problem +of government. Admitting of course that the upper and lower classes are +equal in the eye of God and of the law, yet the one may be by nature +fitted to govern and the other to be governed. A ruling caste does not +soon altogether lose the governing qualities, nor a subject class easily +acquire them. Hence the phenomenon so often observed in the old Greek +revolutions, and not without parallel in modern times, that the leaders +of the democracy have been themselves of aristocratic origin. The people +are expecting to be governed by representatives of their own, but the +true man of the people either never appears, or is quickly altered by +circumstances. Their real wishes hardly make themselves felt, although +their lower interests and prejudices may sometimes be flattered and +yielded to for the sake of ulterior objects by those who have political +power. They will often learn by experience that the democracy has become +a plutocracy. The influence of wealth, though not the enjoyment of +it, has become diffused among the poor as well as among the rich; and +society, instead of being safer, is more at the mercy of the tyrant, +who, when things are at the worst, obtains a guard--that is, an +army--and announces himself as the saviour. + +The other consideration is of an opposite kind. Admitting that a few +wise men are likely to be better governors than the unwise many, yet +it is not in their power to fashion an entire people according to their +behest. When with the best intentions the benevolent despot begins his +regime, he finds the world hard to move. A succession of good kings has +at the end of a century left the people an inert and unchanged mass. The +Roman world was not permanently improved by the hundred years of Hadrian +and the Antonines. The kings of Spain during the last century were at +least equal to any contemporary sovereigns in virtue and ability. In +certain states of the world the means are wanting to render a benevolent +power effectual. These means are not a mere external organisation of +posts or telegraphs, hardly the introduction of new laws or modes of +industry. A change must be made in the spirit of a people as well as +in their externals. The ancient legislator did not really take a blank +tablet and inscribe upon it the rules which reflection and experience +had taught him to be for a nation's interest; no one would have obeyed +him if he had. But he took the customs which he found already existing +in a half-civilised state of society: these he reduced to form and +inscribed on pillars; he defined what had before been undefined, and +gave certainty to what was uncertain. No legislation ever sprang, like +Athene, in full power out of the head either of God or man. + +Plato and Aristotle are sensible of the difficulty of combining the +wisdom of the few with the power of the many. According to Plato, he is +a physician who has the knowledge of a physician, and he is a king who +has the knowledge of a king. But how the king, one or more, is to obtain +the required power, is hardly at all considered by him. He presents +the idea of a perfect government, but except the regulation for mixing +different tempers in marriage, he never makes any provision for the +attainment of it. Aristotle, casting aside ideals, would place the +government in a middle class of citizens, sufficiently numerous for +stability, without admitting the populace; and such appears to have +been the constitution which actually prevailed for a short time at +Athens--the rule of the Five Thousand--characterized by Thucydides as +the best government of Athens which he had known. It may however be +doubted how far, either in a Greek or modern state, such a limitation is +practicable or desirable; for those who are left outside the pale will +always be dangerous to those who are within, while on the other hand +the leaven of the mob can hardly affect the representation of a great +country. There is reason for the argument in favour of a property +qualification; there is reason also in the arguments of those who would +include all and so exhaust the political situation. + +The true answer to the question is relative to the circumstances of +nations. How can we get the greatest intelligence combined with the +greatest power? The ancient legislator would have found this question +more easy than we do. For he would have required that all persons who +had a share of government should have received their education from the +state and have borne her burdens, and should have served in her fleets +and armies. But though we sometimes hear the cry that we must 'educate +the masses, for they are our masters,' who would listen to a proposal +that the franchise should be confined to the educated or to those who +fulfil political duties? Then again, we know that the masses are not our +masters, and that they are more likely to become so if we educate them. +In modern politics so many interests have to be consulted that we are +compelled to do, not what is best, but what is possible. + +d. Law is the first principle of society, but it cannot supply all the +wants of society, and may easily cause more evils than it cures. Plato +is aware of the imperfection of law in failing to meet the varieties of +circumstances: he is also aware that human life would be intolerable if +every detail of it were placed under legal regulation. It may be a great +evil that physicians should kill their patients or captains cast away +their ships, but it would be a far greater evil if each particular in +the practice of medicine or seamanship were regulated by law. Much has +been said in modern times about the duty of leaving men to themselves, +which is supposed to be the best way of taking care of them. The +question is often asked, What are the limits of legislation in relation +to morals? And the answer is to the same effect, that morals must take +care of themselves. There is a one-sided truth in these answers, if they +are regarded as condemnations of the interference with commerce in +the last century or of clerical persecution in the Middle Ages. But +'laissez-faire' is not the best but only the second best. What the +best is, Plato does not attempt to determine; he only contrasts the +imperfection of law with the wisdom of the perfect ruler. + +Laws should be just, but they must also be certain, and we are obliged +to sacrifice something of their justice to their certainty. Suppose +a wise and good judge, who paying little or no regard to the law, +attempted to decide with perfect justice the cases that were brought +before him. To the uneducated person he would appear to be the ideal of +a judge. Such justice has been often exercised in primitive times, or at +the present day among eastern rulers. But in the first place it depends +entirely on the personal character of the judge. He may be honest, +but there is no check upon his dishonesty, and his opinion can only be +overruled, not by any principle of law, but by the opinion of another +judging like himself without law. In the second place, even if he +be ever so honest, his mode of deciding questions would introduce an +element of uncertainty into human life; no one would know beforehand +what would happen to him, or would seek to conform in his conduct to +any rule of law. For the compact which the law makes with men, that they +shall be protected if they observe the law in their dealings with +one another, would have to be substituted another principle of a more +general character, that they shall be protected by the law if they act +rightly in their dealings with one another. The complexity of human +actions and also the uncertainty of their effects would be increased +tenfold. For one of the principal advantages of law is not merely that +it enforces honesty, but that it makes men act in the same way, and +requires them to produce the same evidence of their acts. Too many laws +may be the sign of a corrupt and overcivilized state of society, too few +are the sign of an uncivilized one; as soon as commerce begins to +grow, men make themselves customs which have the validity of laws. Even +equity, which is the exception to the law, conforms to fixed rules and +lies for the most part within the limits of previous decisions. + +IV. The bitterness of the Statesman is characteristic of Plato's later +style, in which the thoughts of youth and love have fled away, and we +are no longer tended by the Muses or the Graces. We do not venture to +say that Plato was soured by old age, but certainly the kindliness and +courtesy of the earlier dialogues have disappeared. He sees the world +under a harder and grimmer aspect: he is dealing with the reality of +things, not with visions or pictures of them: he is seeking by the aid +of dialectic only, to arrive at truth. He is deeply impressed with the +importance of classification: in this alone he finds the true measure of +human things; and very often in the process of division curious results +are obtained. For the dialectical art is no respecter of persons: king +and vermin-taker are all alike to the philosopher. There may have been a +time when the king was a god, but he now is pretty much on a level with +his subjects in breeding and education. Man should be well advised that +he is only one of the animals, and the Hellene in particular should be +aware that he himself was the author of the distinction between Hellene +and Barbarian, and that the Phrygian would equally divide mankind into +Phrygians and Barbarians, and that some intelligent animal, like a +crane, might go a step further, and divide the animal world into cranes +and all other animals. Plato cannot help laughing (compare Theaet.) when +he thinks of the king running after his subjects, like the pig-driver +or the bird-taker. He would seriously have him consider how many +competitors there are to his throne, chiefly among the class of +serving-men. A good deal of meaning is lurking in the expression--'There +is no art of feeding mankind worthy the name.' There is a similar +depth in the remark,--'The wonder about states is not that they are +short-lived, but that they last so long in spite of the badness of their +rulers.' + +V. There is also a paradoxical element in the Statesman which delights +in reversing the accustomed use of words. The law which to the Greek was +the highest object of reverence is an ignorant and brutal tyrant--the +tyrant is converted into a beneficent king. The sophist too is no +longer, as in the earlier dialogues, the rival of the statesman, but +assumes his form. Plato sees that the ideal of the state in his own day +is more and more severed from the actual. From such ideals as he had +once formed, he turns away to contemplate the decline of the Greek +cities which were far worse now in his old age than they had been in his +youth, and were to become worse and worse in the ages which followed. He +cannot contain his disgust at the contemporary statesmen, sophists who +had turned politicians, in various forms of men and animals, appearing, +some like lions and centaurs, others like satyrs and monkeys. In this +new disguise the Sophists make their last appearance on the scene: in +the Laws Plato appears to have forgotten them, or at any rate makes only +a slight allusion to them in a single passage (Laws). + +VI. The Statesman is naturally connected with the Sophist. At first +sight we are surprised to find that the Eleatic Stranger discourses +to us, not only concerning the nature of Being and Not-being, but +concerning the king and statesman. We perceive, however, that there is +no inappropriateness in his maintaining the character of chief speaker, +when we remember the close connexion which is assumed by Plato to exist +between politics and dialectic. In both dialogues the Proteus Sophist +is exhibited, first, in the disguise of an Eristic, secondly, of a false +statesman. There are several lesser features which the two dialogues +have in common. The styles and the situations of the speakers are very +similar; there is the same love of division, and in both of them the +mind of the writer is greatly occupied about method, to which he had +probably intended to return in the projected 'Philosopher.' + +The Statesman stands midway between the Republic and the Laws, and is +also related to the Timaeus. The mythical or cosmical element reminds us +of the Timaeus, the ideal of the Republic. A previous chaos in which +the elements as yet were not, is hinted at both in the Timaeus and +Statesman. The same ingenious arts of giving verisimilitude to a fiction +are practised in both dialogues, and in both, as well as in the myth at +the end of the Republic, Plato touches on the subject of necessity and +free-will. The words in which he describes the miseries of states seem +to be an amplification of the 'Cities will never cease from ill' of the +Republic. The point of view in both is the same; and the differences not +really important, e.g. in the myth, or in the account of the different +kinds of states. But the treatment of the subject in the Statesman is +fragmentary, and the shorter and later work, as might be expected, is +less finished, and less worked out in detail. The idea of measure and +the arrangement of the sciences supply connecting links both with the +Republic and the Philebus. + +More than any of the preceding dialogues, the Statesman seems to +approximate in thought and language to the Laws. There is the same +decline and tendency to monotony in style, the same self-consciousness, +awkwardness, and over-civility; and in the Laws is contained the pattern +of that second best form of government, which, after all, is admitted +to be the only attainable one in this world. The 'gentle violence,' the +marriage of dissimilar natures, the figure of the warp and the woof, +are also found in the Laws. Both expressly recognize the conception of +a first or ideal state, which has receded into an invisible heaven. Nor +does the account of the origin and growth of society really differ in +them, if we make allowance for the mythic character of the narrative in +the Statesman. The virtuous tyrant is common to both of them; and the +Eleatic Stranger takes up a position similar to that of the Athenian +Stranger in the Laws. + +VII. There would have been little disposition to doubt the genuineness +of the Sophist and Statesman, if they had been compared with the Laws +rather than with the Republic, and the Laws had been received, as they +ought to be, on the authority of Aristotle and on the ground of their +intrinsic excellence, as an undoubted work of Plato. The detailed +consideration of the genuineness and order of the Platonic dialogues has +been reserved for another place: a few of the reasons for defending the +Sophist and Statesman may be given here. + +1. The excellence, importance, and metaphysical originality of the two +dialogues: no works at once so good and of such length are known to have +proceeded from the hands of a forger. + +2. The resemblances in them to other dialogues of Plato are such as +might be expected to be found in works of the same author, and not in +those of an imitator, being too subtle and minute to have been invented +by another. The similar passages and turns of thought are generally +inferior to the parallel passages in his earlier writings; and we might +a priori have expected that, if altered, they would have been improved. +But the comparison of the Laws proves that this repetition of his own +thoughts and words in an inferior form is characteristic of Plato's +later style. + +3. The close connexion of them with the Theaetetus, Parmenides, and +Philebus, involves the fate of these dialogues, as well as of the two +suspected ones. + +4. The suspicion of them seems mainly to rest on a presumption that in +Plato's writings we may expect to find an uniform type of doctrine and +opinion. But however we arrange the order, or narrow the circle of the +dialogues, we must admit that they exhibit a growth and progress in the +mind of Plato. And the appearance of change or progress is not to be +regarded as impugning the genuineness of any particular writings, but +may be even an argument in their favour. If we suppose the Sophist and +Politicus to stand halfway between the Republic and the Laws, and in +near connexion with the Theaetetus, the Parmenides, the Philebus, the +arguments against them derived from differences of thought and style +disappear or may be said without paradox in some degree to confirm their +genuineness. There is no such interval between the Republic or Phaedrus +and the two suspected dialogues, as that which separates all the earlier +writings of Plato from the Laws. And the Theaetetus, Parmenides, and +Philebus, supply links, by which, however different from them, they may +be reunited with the great body of the Platonic writings. + + + + +STATESMAN + + +PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Theodorus, Socrates, The Eleatic Stranger, The +Younger Socrates. + + +SOCRATES: I owe you many thanks, indeed, Theodorus, for the acquaintance +both of Theaetetus and of the Stranger. + +THEODORUS: And in a little while, Socrates, you will owe me three +times as many, when they have completed for you the delineation of the +Statesman and of the Philosopher, as well as of the Sophist. + +SOCRATES: Sophist, statesman, philosopher! O my dear Theodorus, do my +ears truly witness that this is the estimate formed of them by the great +calculator and geometrician? + +THEODORUS: What do you mean, Socrates? + +SOCRATES: I mean that you rate them all at the same value, whereas they +are really separated by an interval, which no geometrical ratio can +express. + +THEODORUS: By Ammon, the god of Cyrene, Socrates, that is a very +fair hit; and shows that you have not forgotten your geometry. I will +retaliate on you at some other time, but I must now ask the Stranger, +who will not, I hope, tire of his goodness to us, to proceed either with +the Statesman or with the Philosopher, whichever he prefers. + +STRANGER: That is my duty, Theodorus; having begun I must go on, and not +leave the work unfinished. But what shall be done with Theaetetus? + +THEODORUS: In what respect? + +STRANGER: Shall we relieve him, and take his companion, the Young +Socrates, instead of him? What do you advise? + +THEODORUS: Yes, give the other a turn, as you propose. The young always +do better when they have intervals of rest. + +SOCRATES: I think, Stranger, that both of them may be said to be in some +way related to me; for the one, as you affirm, has the cut of my ugly +face (compare Theaet.), the other is called by my name. And we should +always be on the look-out to recognize a kinsman by the style of his +conversation. I myself was discoursing with Theaetetus yesterday, and +I have just been listening to his answers; my namesake I have not yet +examined, but I must. Another time will do for me; to-day let him answer +you. + +STRANGER: Very good. Young Socrates, do you hear what the elder Socrates +is proposing? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I do. + +STRANGER: And do you agree to his proposal? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: As you do not object, still less can I. After the Sophist, +then, I think that the Statesman naturally follows next in the order +of enquiry. And please to say, whether he, too, should be ranked among +those who have science. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: Then the sciences must be divided as before? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I dare say. + +STRANGER: But yet the division will not be the same? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How then? + +STRANGER: They will be divided at some other point. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: Where shall we discover the path of the Statesman? We must +find and separate off, and set our seal upon this, and we will set +the mark of another class upon all diverging paths. Thus the soul will +conceive of all kinds of knowledge under two classes. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To find the path is your business, Stranger, and not +mine. + +STRANGER: Yes, Socrates, but the discovery, when once made, must be +yours as well as mine. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good. + +STRANGER: Well, and are not arithmetic and certain other kindred arts, +merely abstract knowledge, wholly separated from action? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: But in the art of carpentering and all other handicrafts, the +knowledge of the workman is merged in his work; he not only knows, but +he also makes things which previously did not exist. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Then let us divide sciences in general into those which are +practical and those which are purely intellectual. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Let us assume these two divisions of science, which is +one whole. + +STRANGER: And are 'statesman,' 'king,' 'master,' or 'householder,' one +and the same; or is there a science or art answering to each of these +names? Or rather, allow me to put the matter in another way. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Let me hear. + +STRANGER: If any one who is in a private station has the skill to advise +one of the public physicians, must not he also be called a physician? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: And if any one who is in a private station is able to advise +the ruler of a country, may not he be said to have the knowledge which +the ruler himself ought to have? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: But surely the science of a true king is royal science? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: And will not he who possesses this knowledge, whether he +happens to be a ruler or a private man, when regarded only in reference +to his art, be truly called 'royal'? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: He certainly ought to be. + +STRANGER: And the householder and master are the same? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Of course. + +STRANGER: Again, a large household may be compared to a small +state:--will they differ at all, as far as government is concerned? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: They will not. + +STRANGER: Then, returning to the point which we were just now +discussing, do we not clearly see that there is one science of all +of them; and this science may be called either royal or political or +economical; we will not quarrel with any one about the name. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly not. + +STRANGER: This too, is evident, that the king cannot do much with his +hands, or with his whole body, towards the maintenance of his empire, +compared with what he does by the intelligence and strength of his mind. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Clearly not. + +STRANGER: Then, shall we say that the king has a greater affinity to +knowledge than to manual arts and to practical life in general? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly he has. + +STRANGER: Then we may put all together as one and the +same--statesmanship and the statesman--the kingly science and the king. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Clearly. + +STRANGER: And now we shall only be proceeding in due order if we go on +to divide the sphere of knowledge? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good. + +STRANGER: Think whether you can find any joint or parting in knowledge. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Tell me of what sort. + +STRANGER: Such as this: You may remember that we made an art of +calculation? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: Which was, unmistakeably, one of the arts of knowledge? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: And to this art of calculation which discerns the differences +of numbers shall we assign any other function except to pass judgment on +their differences? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How could we? + +STRANGER: You know that the master-builder does not work himself, but is +the ruler of workmen? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: He contributes knowledge, not manual labour? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And may therefore be justly said to share in theoretical +science? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Quite true. + +STRANGER: But he ought not, like the calculator, to regard his functions +as at an end when he has formed a judgment;--he must assign to the +individual workmen their appropriate task until they have completed the +work. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: Are not all such sciences, no less than arithmetic and the +like, subjects of pure knowledge; and is not the difference between the +two classes, that the one sort has the power of judging only, and the +other of ruling as well? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That is evident. + +STRANGER: May we not very properly say, that of all knowledge, there are +two divisions--one which rules, and the other which judges? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I should think so. + +STRANGER: And when men have anything to do in common, that they should +be of one mind is surely a desirable thing? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: Then while we are at unity among ourselves, we need not mind +about the fancies of others? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly not. + +STRANGER: And now, in which of these divisions shall we place the +king?--Is he a judge and a kind of spectator? Or shall we assign to him +the art of command--for he is a ruler? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: The latter, clearly. + +STRANGER: Then we must see whether there is any mark of division in the +art of command too. I am inclined to think that there is a distinction +similar to that of manufacturer and retail dealer, which parts off the +king from the herald. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How is this? + +STRANGER: Why, does not the retailer receive and sell over again the +productions of others, which have been sold before? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly he does. + +STRANGER: And is not the herald under command, and does he not receive +orders, and in his turn give them to others? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: Then shall we mingle the kingly art in the same class with the +art of the herald, the interpreter, the boatswain, the prophet, and the +numerous kindred arts which exercise command; or, as in the preceding +comparison we spoke of manufacturers, or sellers for themselves, and of +retailers,--seeing, too, that the class of supreme rulers, or rulers for +themselves, is almost nameless--shall we make a word following the +same analogy, and refer kings to a supreme or ruling-for-self science, +leaving the rest to receive a name from some one else? For we are +seeking the ruler; and our enquiry is not concerned with him who is not +a ruler. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good. + +STRANGER: Thus a very fair distinction has been attained between the man +who gives his own commands, and him who gives another's. And now let us +see if the supreme power allows of any further division. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: By all means. + +STRANGER: I think that it does; and please to assist me in making the +division. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: At what point? + +STRANGER: May not all rulers be supposed to command for the sake of +producing something? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Nor is there any difficulty in dividing the things produced +into two classes. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How would you divide them? + +STRANGER: Of the whole class, some have life and some are without life. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And by the help of this distinction we may make, if we please, +a subdivision of the section of knowledge which commands. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: At what point? + +STRANGER: One part may be set over the production of lifeless, the other +of living objects; and in this way the whole will be divided. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: That division, then, is complete; and now we may leave one +half, and take up the other; which may also be divided into two. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Which of the two halves do you mean? + +STRANGER: Of course that which exercises command about animals. For, +surely, the royal science is not like that of a master-workman, +a science presiding over lifeless objects;--the king has a nobler +function, which is the management and control of living beings. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And the breeding and tending of living beings may be observed +to be sometimes a tending of the individual; in other cases, a common +care of creatures in flocks? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: But the statesman is not a tender of individuals--not like +the driver or groom of a single ox or horse; he is rather to be compared +with the keeper of a drove of horses or oxen. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes, I see, thanks to you. + +STRANGER: Shall we call this art of tending many animals together, the +art of managing a herd, or the art of collective management? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: No matter;--whichever suggests itself to us in the +course of conversation. + +STRANGER: Very good, Socrates; and, if you continue to be not too +particular about names, you will be all the richer in wisdom when you +are an old man. And now, as you say, leaving the discussion of the +name,--can you see a way in which a person, by showing the art of +herding to be of two kinds, may cause that which is now sought amongst +twice the number of things, to be then sought amongst half that number? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I will try;--there appears to me to be one management of +men and another of beasts. + +STRANGER: You have certainly divided them in a most straightforward and +manly style; but you have fallen into an error which hereafter I think +that we had better avoid. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is the error? + +STRANGER: I think that we had better not cut off a single small portion +which is not a species, from many larger portions; the part should be a +species. To separate off at once the subject of investigation, is a most +excellent plan, if only the separation be rightly made; and you were +under the impression that you were right, because you saw that you would +come to man; and this led you to hasten the steps. But you should not +chip off too small a piece, my friend; the safer way is to cut through +the middle; which is also the more likely way of finding classes. +Attention to this principle makes all the difference in a process of +enquiry. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean, Stranger? + +STRANGER: I will endeavour to speak more plainly out of love to your +good parts, Socrates; and, although I cannot at present entirely explain +myself, I will try, as we proceed, to make my meaning a little clearer. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What was the error of which, as you say, we were guilty +in our recent division? + +STRANGER: The error was just as if some one who wanted to divide the +human race, were to divide them after the fashion which prevails in this +part of the world; here they cut off the Hellenes as one species, and +all the other species of mankind, which are innumerable, and have +no ties or common language, they include under the single name of +'barbarians,' and because they have one name they are supposed to be of +one species also. Or suppose that in dividing numbers you were to +cut off ten thousand from all the rest, and make of it one species, +comprehending the rest under another separate name, you might say that +here too was a single class, because you had given it a single name. +Whereas you would make a much better and more equal and logical +classification of numbers, if you divided them into odd and even; or of +the human species, if you divided them into male and female; and only +separated off Lydians or Phrygians, or any other tribe, and arrayed them +against the rest of the world, when you could no longer make a division +into parts which were also classes. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true; but I wish that this distinction between a +part and a class could still be made somewhat plainer. + +STRANGER: O Socrates, best of men, you are imposing upon me a very +difficult task. We have already digressed further from our original +intention than we ought, and you would have us wander still further +away. But we must now return to our subject; and hereafter, when there +is a leisure hour, we will follow up the other track; at the same time, +I wish you to guard against imagining that you ever heard me declare-- + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What? + +STRANGER: That a class and a part are distinct. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What did I hear, then? + +STRANGER: That a class is necessarily a part, but there is no similar +necessity that a part should be a class; that is the view which I should +always wish you to attribute to me, Socrates. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: So be it. + +STRANGER: There is another thing which I should like to know. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is it? + +STRANGER: The point at which we digressed; for, if I am not mistaken, +the exact place was at the question, Where you would divide the +management of herds. To this you appeared rather too ready to answer +that there were two species of animals; man being one, and all brutes +making up the other. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: I thought that in taking away a part, you imagined that the +remainder formed a class, because you were able to call them by the +common name of brutes. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That again is true. + +STRANGER: Suppose now, O most courageous of dialecticians, that some +wise and understanding creature, such as a crane is reputed to be, +were, in imitation of you, to make a similar division, and set up cranes +against all other animals to their own special glorification, at the +same time jumbling together all the others, including man, under the +appellation of brutes,--here would be the sort of error which we must +try to avoid. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How can we be safe? + +STRANGER: If we do not divide the whole class of animals, we shall be +less likely to fall into that error. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: We had better not take the whole? + +STRANGER: Yes, there lay the source of error in our former division. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How? + +STRANGER: You remember how that part of the art of knowledge which +was concerned with command, had to do with the rearing of living +creatures,--I mean, with animals in herds? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: In that case, there was already implied a division of all +animals into tame and wild; those whose nature can be tamed are called +tame, and those which cannot be tamed are called wild. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And the political science of which we are in search, is and +ever was concerned with tame animals, and is also confined to gregarious +animals. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: But then we ought not to divide, as we did, taking the whole +class at once. Neither let us be in too great haste to arrive quickly at +the political science; for this mistake has already brought upon us the +misfortune of which the proverb speaks. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What misfortune? + +STRANGER: The misfortune of too much haste, which is too little speed. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: And all the better, Stranger;--we got what we deserved. + +STRANGER: Very well: Let us then begin again, and endeavour to divide +the collective rearing of animals; for probably the completion of the +argument will best show what you are so anxious to know. Tell me, then-- + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What? + +STRANGER: Have you ever heard, as you very likely may--for I do not +suppose that you ever actually visited them--of the preserves of fishes +in the Nile, and in the ponds of the Great King; or you may have seen +similar preserves in wells at home? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes, to be sure, I have seen them, and I have often +heard the others described. + +STRANGER: And you may have heard also, and may have been assured by +report, although you have not travelled in those regions, of nurseries +of geese and cranes in the plains of Thessaly? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: I asked you, because here is a new division of the management +of herds, into the management of land and of water herds. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: There is. + +STRANGER: And do you agree that we ought to divide the collective +rearing of herds into two corresponding parts, the one the rearing of +water, and the other the rearing of land herds? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: There is surely no need to ask which of these two contains the +royal art, for it is evident to everybody. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Any one can divide the herds which feed on dry land? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How would you divide them? + +STRANGER: I should distinguish between those which fly and those which +walk. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Most true. + +STRANGER: And where shall we look for the political animal? Might not an +idiot, so to speak, know that he is a pedestrian? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: The art of managing the walking animal has to be further +divided, just as you might halve an even number. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Clearly. + +STRANGER: Let me note that here appear in view two ways to that part +or class which the argument aims at reaching,--the one a speedier way, +which cuts off a small portion and leaves a large; the other agrees +better with the principle which we were laying down, that as far as we +can we should divide in the middle; but it is longer. We can take either +of them, whichever we please. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Cannot we have both ways? + +STRANGER: Together? What a thing to ask! but, if you take them in turn, +you clearly may. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Then I should like to have them in turn. + +STRANGER: There will be no difficulty, as we are near the end; if we had +been at the beginning, or in the middle, I should have demurred to your +request; but now, in accordance with your desire, let us begin with the +longer way; while we are fresh, we shall get on better. And now attend +to the division. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Let me hear. + +STRANGER: The tame walking herding animals are distributed by nature +into two classes. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Upon what principle? + +STRANGER: The one grows horns; and the other is without horns. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Clearly. + +STRANGER: Suppose that you divide the science which manages pedestrian +animals into two corresponding parts, and define them; for if you try to +invent names for them, you will find the intricacy too great. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How must I speak of them, then? + +STRANGER: In this way: let the science of managing pedestrian animals +be divided into two parts, and one part assigned to the horned herd, and +the other to the herd that has no horns. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: All that you say has been abundantly proved, and may +therefore be assumed. + +STRANGER: The king is clearly the shepherd of a polled herd, who have no +horns. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That is evident. + +STRANGER: Shall we break up this hornless herd into sections, and +endeavour to assign to him what is his? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: By all means. + +STRANGER: Shall we distinguish them by their having or not having cloven +feet, or by their mixing or not mixing the breed? You know what I mean. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What? + +STRANGER: I mean that horses and asses naturally breed from one another. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: But the remainder of the hornless herd of tame animals will +not mix the breed. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: And of which has the Statesman charge,--of the mixed or of the +unmixed race? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Clearly of the unmixed. + +STRANGER: I suppose that we must divide this again as before. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: We must. + +STRANGER: Every tame and herding animal has now been split up, with +the exception of two species; for I hardly think that dogs should be +reckoned among gregarious animals. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly not; but how shall we divide the two remaining +species? + +STRANGER: There is a measure of difference which may be appropriately +employed by you and Theaetetus, who are students of geometry. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is that? + +STRANGER: The diameter; and, again, the diameter of a diameter. (Compare +Meno.) + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean? + +STRANGER: How does man walk, but as a diameter whose power is two feet? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Just so. + +STRANGER: And the power of the remaining kind, being the power of twice +two feet, may be said to be the diameter of our diameter. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly; and now I think that I pretty nearly +understand you. + +STRANGER: In these divisions, Socrates, I descry what would make another +famous jest. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is it? + +STRANGER: Human beings have come out in the same class with the freest +and airiest of creation, and have been running a race with them. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I remark that very singular coincidence. + +STRANGER: And would you not expect the slowest to arrive last? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Indeed I should. + +STRANGER: And there is a still more ridiculous consequence, that the +king is found running about with the herd and in close competition with +the bird-catcher, who of all mankind is most of an adept at the airy +life. (Plato is here introducing a new subdivision, i.e. that of bipeds +into men and birds. Others however refer the passage to the division +into quadrupeds and bipeds, making pigs compete with human beings and +the pig-driver with the king. According to this explanation we must +translate the words above, 'freest and airiest of creation,' 'worthiest +and laziest of creation.') + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Then here, Socrates, is still clearer evidence of the truth of +what was said in the enquiry about the Sophist? (Compare Sophist.) + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What? + +STRANGER: That the dialectical method is no respecter of persons, and +does not set the great above the small, but always arrives in her own +way at the truest result. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Clearly. + +STRANGER: And now, I will not wait for you to ask, but will of my +own accord take you by the shorter road to the definition of a king. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: By all means. + +STRANGER: I say that we should have begun at first by dividing land +animals into biped and quadruped; and since the winged herd, and that +alone, comes out in the same class with man, we should divide bipeds +into those which have feathers and those which have not, and when they +have been divided, and the art of the management of mankind is brought +to light, the time will have come to produce our Statesman and ruler, +and set him like a charioteer in his place, and hand over to him the +reins of state, for that too is a vocation which belongs to him. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good; you have paid me the debt,--I mean, that you +have completed the argument, and I suppose that you added the digression +by way of interest. (Compare Republic.) + +STRANGER: Then now, let us go back to the beginning, and join the links, +which together make the definition of the name of the Statesman's art. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: By all means. + +STRANGER: The science of pure knowledge had, as we said originally, a +part which was the science of rule or command, and from this was derived +another part, which was called command-for-self, on the analogy of +selling-for-self; an important section of this was the management of +living animals, and this again was further limited to the management +of them in herds; and again in herds of pedestrian animals. The chief +division of the latter was the art of managing pedestrian animals which +are without horns; this again has a part which can only be comprehended +under one term by joining together three names--shepherding pure-bred +animals. The only further subdivision is the art of man-herding,--this +has to do with bipeds, and is what we were seeking after, and have now +found, being at once the royal and political. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To be sure. + +STRANGER: And do you think, Socrates, that we really have done as you +say? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What? + +STRANGER: Do you think, I mean, that we have really fulfilled +our intention?--There has been a sort of discussion, and yet the +investigation seems to me not to be perfectly worked out: this is where +the enquiry fails. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I do not understand. + +STRANGER: I will try to make the thought, which is at this moment +present in my mind, clearer to us both. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Let me hear. + +STRANGER: There were many arts of shepherding, and one of them was the +political, which had the charge of one particular herd? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: And this the argument defined to be the art of rearing, not +horses or other brutes, but the art of rearing man collectively? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: Note, however, a difference which distinguishes the king from +all other shepherds. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To what do you refer? + +STRANGER: I want to ask, whether any one of the other herdsmen has a +rival who professes and claims to share with him in the management of +the herd? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean? + +STRANGER: I mean to say that merchants, husbandmen, providers of food, +and also training-masters and physicians, will all contend with the +herdsmen of humanity, whom we call Statesmen, declaring that they +themselves have the care of rearing or managing mankind, and that they +rear not only the common herd, but also the rulers themselves. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Are they not right in saying so? + +STRANGER: Very likely they may be, and we will consider their claim. +But we are certain of this,--that no one will raise a similar claim as +against the herdsman, who is allowed on all hands to be the sole and +only feeder and physician of his herd; he is also their match-maker +and accoucheur; no one else knows that department of science. And he is +their merry-maker and musician, as far as their nature is susceptible of +such influences, and no one can console and soothe his own herd +better than he can, either with the natural tones of his voice or with +instruments. And the same may be said of tenders of animals in general. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: But if this is as you say, can our argument about the king +be true and unimpeachable? Were we right in selecting him out of ten +thousand other claimants to be the shepherd and rearer of the human +flock? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Surely not. + +STRANGER: Had we not reason just to now to apprehend, that although we +may have described a sort of royal form, we have not as yet accurately +worked out the true image of the Statesman? and that we cannot reveal +him as he truly is in his own nature, until we have disengaged and +separated him from those who hang about him and claim to share in his +prerogatives? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: And that, Socrates, is what we must do, if we do not mean to +bring disgrace upon the argument at its close. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: We must certainly avoid that. + +STRANGER: Then let us make a new beginning, and travel by a different +road. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What road? + +STRANGER: I think that we may have a little amusement; there is a famous +tale, of which a good portion may with advantage be interwoven, and then +we may resume our series of divisions, and proceed in the old path until +we arrive at the desired summit. Shall we do as I say? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: By all means. + +STRANGER: Listen, then, to a tale which a child would love to hear; and +you are not too old for childish amusement. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Let me hear. + +STRANGER: There did really happen, and will again happen, like many +other events of which ancient tradition has preserved the record, the +portent which is traditionally said to have occurred in the quarrel of +Atreus and Thyestes. You have heard, no doubt, and remember what they +say happened at that time? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I suppose you to mean the token of the birth of the +golden lamb. + +STRANGER: No, not that; but another part of the story, which tells how +the sun and the stars once rose in the west, and set in the east, and +that the god reversed their motion, and gave them that which they now +have as a testimony to the right of Atreus. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes; there is that legend also. + +STRANGER: Again, we have been often told of the reign of Cronos. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes, very often. + +STRANGER: Did you ever hear that the men of former times were +earth-born, and not begotten of one another? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes, that is another old tradition. + +STRANGER: All these stories, and ten thousand others which are still +more wonderful, have a common origin; many of them have been lost in +the lapse of ages, or are repeated only in a disconnected form; but the +origin of them is what no one has told, and may as well be told now; for +the tale is suited to throw light on the nature of the king. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good; and I hope that you will give the whole +story, and leave out nothing. + +STRANGER: Listen, then. There is a time when God himself guides and +helps to roll the world in its course; and there is a time, on the +completion of a certain cycle, when he lets go, and the world being a +living creature, and having originally received intelligence from its +author and creator, turns about and by an inherent necessity revolves in +the opposite direction. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Why is that? + +STRANGER: Why, because only the most divine things of all remain ever +unchanged and the same, and body is not included in this class. Heaven +and the universe, as we have termed them, although they have been +endowed by the Creator with many glories, partake of a bodily nature, +and therefore cannot be entirely free from perturbation. But their +motion is, as far as possible, single and in the same place, and of the +same kind; and is therefore only subject to a reversal, which is the +least alteration possible. For the lord of all moving things is alone +able to move of himself; and to think that he moves them at one time in +one direction and at another time in another is blasphemy. Hence we must +not say that the world is either self-moved always, or all made to go +round by God in two opposite courses; or that two Gods, having opposite +purposes, make it move round. But as I have already said (and this is +the only remaining alternative) the world is guided at one time by an +external power which is divine and receives fresh life and immortality +from the renewing hand of the Creator, and again, when let go, moves +spontaneously, being set free at such a time as to have, during infinite +cycles of years, a reverse movement: this is due to its perfect balance, +to its vast size, and to the fact that it turns on the smallest pivot. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Your account of the world seems to be very reasonable +indeed. + +STRANGER: Let us now reflect and try to gather from what has been said +the nature of the phenomenon which we affirmed to be the cause of all +these wonders. It is this. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What? + +STRANGER: The reversal which takes place from time to time of the motion +of the universe. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How is that the cause? + +STRANGER: Of all changes of the heavenly motions, we may consider this +to be the greatest and most complete. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I should imagine so. + +STRANGER: And it may be supposed to result in the greatest changes to +the human beings who are the inhabitants of the world at the time. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Such changes would naturally occur. + +STRANGER: And animals, as we know, survive with difficulty great and +serious changes of many different kinds when they come upon them at +once. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: Hence there necessarily occurs a great destruction of them, +which extends also to the life of man; few survivors of the race are +left, and those who remain become the subjects of several novel and +remarkable phenomena, and of one in particular, which takes place at the +time when the transition is made to the cycle opposite to that in which +we are now living. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is it? + +STRANGER: The life of all animals first came to a standstill, and the +mortal nature ceased to be or look older, and was then reversed and grew +young and delicate; the white locks of the aged darkened again, and the +cheeks the bearded man became smooth, and recovered their former bloom; +the bodies of youths in their prime grew softer and smaller, continually +by day and night returning and becoming assimilated to the nature of a +newly-born child in mind as well as body; in the succeeding stage they +wasted away and wholly disappeared. And the bodies of those who died by +violence at that time quickly passed through the like changes, and in a +few days were no more seen. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Then how, Stranger, were the animals created in those +days; and in what way were they begotten of one another? + +STRANGER: It is evident, Socrates, that there was no such thing in the +then order of nature as the procreation of animals from one another; the +earth-born race, of which we hear in story, was the one which existed +in those days--they rose again from the ground; and of this tradition, +which is now-a-days often unduly discredited, our ancestors, who were +nearest in point of time to the end of the last period and came into +being at the beginning of this, are to us the heralds. And mark how +consistent the sequel of the tale is; after the return of age to youth, +follows the return of the dead, who are lying in the earth, to life; +simultaneously with the reversal of the world the wheel of their +generation has been turned back, and they are put together and rise and +live in the opposite order, unless God has carried any of them away to +some other lot. According to this tradition they of necessity sprang +from the earth and have the name of earth-born, and so the above legend +clings to them. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly that is quite consistent with what has +preceded; but tell me, was the life which you said existed in the reign +of Cronos in that cycle of the world, or in this? For the change in the +course of the stars and the sun must have occurred in both. + +STRANGER: I see that you enter into my meaning;--no, that blessed and +spontaneous life does not belong to the present cycle of the world, but +to the previous one, in which God superintended the whole revolution of +the universe; and the several parts the universe were distributed under +the rule of certain inferior deities, as is the way in some places +still. There were demigods, who were the shepherds of the various +species and herds of animals, and each one was in all respects +sufficient for those of whom he was the shepherd; neither was there any +violence, or devouring of one another, or war or quarrel among them; +and I might tell of ten thousand other blessings, which belonged to that +dispensation. The reason why the life of man was, as tradition says, +spontaneous, is as follows: In those days God himself was their +shepherd, and ruled over them, just as man, who is by comparison a +divine being, still rules over the lower animals. Under him there were +no forms of government or separate possession of women and children; +for all men rose again from the earth, having no memory of the past. And +although they had nothing of this sort, the earth gave them fruits in +abundance, which grew on trees and shrubs unbidden, and were not planted +by the hand of man. And they dwelt naked, and mostly in the open air, +for the temperature of their seasons was mild; and they had no beds, but +lay on soft couches of grass, which grew plentifully out of the earth. +Such was the life of man in the days of Cronos, Socrates; the character +of our present life, which is said to be under Zeus, you know from your +own experience. Can you, and will you, determine which of them you deem +the happier? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Impossible. + +STRANGER: Then shall I determine for you as well as I can? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: By all means. + +STRANGER: Suppose that the nurslings of Cronos, having this boundless +leisure, and the power of holding intercourse, not only with men, but +with the brute creation, had used all these advantages with a view to +philosophy, conversing with the brutes as well as with one another, and +learning of every nature which was gifted with any special power, and +was able to contribute some special experience to the store of wisdom, +there would be no difficulty in deciding that they would be a thousand +times happier than the men of our own day. Or, again, if they had merely +eaten and drunk until they were full, and told stories to one another +and to the animals--such stories as are now attributed to them--in this +case also, as I should imagine, the answer would be easy. But until some +satisfactory witness can be found of the love of that age for knowledge +and discussion, we had better let the matter drop, and give the reason +why we have unearthed this tale, and then we shall be able to get on. +In the fulness of time, when the change was to take place, and the +earth-born race had all perished, and every soul had completed its +proper cycle of births and been sown in the earth her appointed number +of times, the pilot of the universe let the helm go, and retired to his +place of view; and then Fate and innate desire reversed the motion of +the world. Then also all the inferior deities who share the rule of the +supreme power, being informed of what was happening, let go the parts +of the world which were under their control. And the world turning +round with a sudden shock, being impelled in an opposite direction from +beginning to end, was shaken by a mighty earthquake, which wrought a new +destruction of all manner of animals. Afterwards, when sufficient time +had elapsed, the tumult and confusion and earthquake ceased, and the +universal creature, once more at peace, attained to a calm, and settled +down into his own orderly and accustomed course, having the charge and +rule of himself and of all the creatures which are contained in him, and +executing, as far as he remembered them, the instructions of his +Father and Creator, more precisely at first, but afterwords with less +exactness. The reason of the falling off was the admixture of matter in +him; this was inherent in the primal nature, which was full of disorder, +until attaining to the present order. From God, the constructor, the +world received all that is good in him, but from a previous state came +elements of evil and unrighteousness, which, thence derived, first of +all passed into the world, and were then transmitted to the animals. +While the world was aided by the pilot in nurturing the animals, the +evil was small, and great the good which he produced, but after the +separation, when the world was let go, at first all proceeded well +enough; but, as time went on, there was more and more forgetting, and +the old discord again held sway and burst forth in full glory; and at +last small was the good, and great was the admixture of evil, and there +was a danger of universal ruin to the world, and to the things contained +in him. Wherefore God, the orderer of all, in his tender care, seeing +that the world was in great straits, and fearing that all might be +dissolved in the storm and disappear in infinite chaos, again seated +himself at the helm; and bringing back the elements which had fallen +into dissolution and disorder to the motion which had prevailed under +his dispensation, he set them in order and restored them, and made the +world imperishable and immortal. And this is the whole tale, of which +the first part will suffice to illustrate the nature of the king. For +when the world turned towards the present cycle of generation, the age +of man again stood still, and a change opposite to the previous one was +the result. The small creatures which had almost disappeared grew in and +stature, and the newly-born children of the earth became grey and +died and sank into the earth again. All things changed, imitating and +following the condition of the universe, and of necessity agreeing with +that in their mode of conception and generation and nurture; for no +animal was any longer allowed to come into being in the earth through +the agency of other creative beings, but as the world was ordained to be +the lord of his own progress, in like manner the parts were ordained +to grow and generate and give nourishment, as far as they could, of +themselves, impelled by a similar movement. And so we have arrived at +the real end of this discourse; for although there might be much to tell +of the lower animals, and of the condition out of which they changed +and of the causes of the change, about men there is not much, and that +little is more to the purpose. Deprived of the care of God, who had +possessed and tended them, they were left helpless and defenceless, and +were torn in pieces by the beasts, who were naturally fierce and had +now grown wild. And in the first ages they were still without skill or +resource; the food which once grew spontaneously had failed, and as +yet they knew not how to procure it, because they had never felt the +pressure of necessity. For all these reasons they were in a great +strait; wherefore also the gifts spoken of in the old tradition +were imparted to man by the gods, together with so much teaching and +education as was indispensable; fire was given to them by Prometheus, +the arts by Hephaestus and his fellow-worker, Athene, seeds and plants +by others. From these is derived all that has helped to frame human +life; since the care of the Gods, as I was saying, had now failed men, +and they had to order their course of life for themselves, and were +their own masters, just like the universal creature whom they imitate +and follow, ever changing, as he changes, and ever living and growing, +at one time in one manner, and at another time in another. Enough of +the story, which may be of use in showing us how greatly we erred in the +delineation of the king and the statesman in our previous discourse. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What was this great error of which you speak? + +STRANGER: There were two; the first a lesser one, the other was an error +on a much larger and grander scale. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean? + +STRANGER: I mean to say that when we were asked about a king and +statesman of the present cycle and generation, we told of a shepherd of +a human flock who belonged to the other cycle, and of one who was a +god when he ought to have been a man; and this a great error. Again, +we declared him to be the ruler of the entire State, without explaining +how: this was not the whole truth, nor very intelligible; but still it +was true, and therefore the second error was not so great as the first. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good. + +STRANGER: Before we can expect to have a perfect description of the +statesman we must define the nature of his office. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: And the myth was introduced in order to show, not only that +all others are rivals of the true shepherd who is the object of our +search, but in order that we might have a clearer view of him who is +alone worthy to receive this appellation, because he alone of shepherds +and herdsmen, according to the image which we have employed, has the +care of human beings. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: And I cannot help thinking, Socrates, that the form of +the divine shepherd is even higher than that of a king; whereas the +statesmen who are now on earth seem to be much more like their subjects +in character, and much more nearly to partake of their breeding and +education. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Still they must be investigated all the same, to see whether, +like the divine shepherd, they are above their subjects or on a level +with them. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Of course. + +STRANGER: To resume:--Do you remember that we spoke of a +command-for-self exercised over animals, not singly but collectively, +which we called the art of rearing a herd? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes, I remember. + +STRANGER: There, somewhere, lay our error; for we never included or +mentioned the Statesman; and we did not observe that he had no place in +our nomenclature. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How was that? + +STRANGER: All other herdsmen 'rear' their herds, but this is not a +suitable term to apply to the Statesman; we should use a name which is +common to them all. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True, if there be such a name. + +STRANGER: Why, is not 'care' of herds applicable to all? For this +implies no feeding, or any special duty; if we say either 'tending' the +herds, or 'managing' the herds, or 'having the care' of them, the same +word will include all, and then we may wrap up the Statesman with the +rest, as the argument seems to require. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Quite right; but how shall we take the next step in the +division? + +STRANGER: As before we divided the art of 'rearing' herds accordingly as +they were land or water herds, winged and wingless, mixing or not +mixing the breed, horned and hornless, so we may divide by these same +differences the 'tending' of herds, comprehending in our definition the +kingship of to-day and the rule of Cronos. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That is clear; but I still ask, what is to follow. + +STRANGER: If the word had been 'managing' herds, instead of feeding or +rearing them, no one would have argued that there was no care of men in +the case of the politician, although it was justly contended, that there +was no human art of feeding them which was worthy of the name, or at +least, if there were, many a man had a prior and greater right to share +in such an art than any king. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: But no other art or science will have a prior or better right +than the royal science to care for human society and to rule over men in +general. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Quite true. + +STRANGER: In the next place, Socrates, we must surely notice that a +great error was committed at the end of our analysis. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What was it? + +STRANGER: Why, supposing we were ever so sure that there is such an +art as the art of rearing or feeding bipeds, there was no reason why +we should call this the royal or political art, as though there were no +more to be said. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly not. + +STRANGER: Our first duty, as we were saying, was to remodel the name, +so as to have the notion of care rather than of feeding, and then to +divide, for there may be still considerable divisions. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How can they be made? + +STRANGER: First, by separating the divine shepherd from the human +guardian or manager. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And the art of management which is assigned to man would again +have to be subdivided. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: On what principle? + +STRANGER: On the principle of voluntary and compulsory. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Why? + +STRANGER: Because, if I am not mistaken, there has been an error here; +for our simplicity led us to rank king and tyrant together, whereas they +are utterly distinct, like their modes of government. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: Then, now, as I said, let us make the correction and divide +human care into two parts, on the principle of voluntary and compulsory. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: And if we call the management of violent rulers tyranny, and +the voluntary management of herds of voluntary bipeds politics, may we +not further assert that he who has this latter art of management is the +true king and statesman? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I think, Stranger, that we have now completed the +account of the Statesman. + +STRANGER: Would that we had, Socrates, but I have to satisfy myself +as well as you; and in my judgment the figure of the king is not +yet perfected; like statuaries who, in their too great haste, having +overdone the several parts of their work, lose time in cutting them +down, so too we, partly out of haste, partly out of a magnanimous desire +to expose our former error, and also because we imagined that a king +required grand illustrations, have taken up a marvellous lump of fable, +and have been obliged to use more than was necessary. This made us +discourse at large, and, nevertheless, the story never came to an end. +And our discussion might be compared to a picture of some living being +which had been fairly drawn in outline, but had not yet attained the +life and clearness which is given by the blending of colours. Now to +intelligent persons a living being had better be delineated by language +and discourse than by any painting or work of art: to the duller sort by +works of art. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true; but what is the imperfection which still +remains? I wish that you would tell me. + +STRANGER: The higher ideas, my dear friend, can hardly be set forth +except through the medium of examples; every man seems to know all +things in a dreamy sort of way, and then again to wake up and to know +nothing. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean? + +STRANGER: I fear that I have been unfortunate in raising a question +about our experience of knowledge. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Why so? + +STRANGER: Why, because my 'example' requires the assistance of another +example. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Proceed; you need not fear that I shall tire. + +STRANGER: I will proceed, finding, as I do, such a ready listener in +you: when children are beginning to know their letters-- + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What are you going to say? + +STRANGER: That they distinguish the several letters well enough in very +short and easy syllables, and are able to tell them correctly. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Whereas in other syllables they do not recognize them, and +think and speak falsely of them. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: Will not the best and easiest way of bringing them to a +knowledge of what they do not as yet know be-- + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Be what? + +STRANGER: To refer them first of all to cases in which they judge +correctly about the letters in question, and then to compare these with +the cases in which they do not as yet know, and to show them that the +letters are the same, and have the same character in both combinations, +until all cases in which they are right have been placed side by side +with all cases in which they are wrong. In this way they have examples, +and are made to learn that each letter in every combination is always +the same and not another, and is always called by the same name. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Are not examples formed in this manner? We take a thing and +compare it with another distinct instance of the same thing, of which we +have a right conception, and out of the comparison there arises one true +notion, which includes both of them. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Exactly. + +STRANGER: Can we wonder, then, that the soul has the same uncertainty +about the alphabet of things, and sometimes and in some cases is firmly +fixed by the truth in each particular, and then, again, in other cases +is altogether at sea; having somehow or other a correct notion of +combinations; but when the elements are transferred into the long and +difficult language (syllables) of facts, is again ignorant of them? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: There is nothing wonderful in that. + +STRANGER: Could any one, my friend, who began with false opinion ever +expect to arrive even at a small portion of truth and to attain wisdom? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Hardly. + +STRANGER: Then you and I will not be far wrong in trying to see the +nature of example in general in a small and particular instance; +afterwards from lesser things we intend to pass to the royal class, +which is the highest form of the same nature, and endeavour to discover +by rules of art what the management of cities is; and then the dream +will become a reality to us. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: Then, once more, let us resume the previous argument, and as +there were innumerable rivals of the royal race who claim to have the +care of states, let us part them all off, and leave him alone; and, as I +was saying, a model or example of this process has first to be framed. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Exactly. + +STRANGER: What model is there which is small, and yet has any analogy +with the political occupation? Suppose, Socrates, that if we have no +other example at hand, we choose weaving, or, more precisely, weaving of +wool--this will be quite enough, without taking the whole of weaving, to +illustrate our meaning? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Why should we not apply to weaving the same processes of +division and subdivision which we have already applied to other classes; +going once more as rapidly as we can through all the steps until we come +to that which is needed for our purpose? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How do you mean? + +STRANGER: I shall reply by actually performing the process. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good. + +STRANGER: All things which we make or acquire are either creative or +preventive; of the preventive class are antidotes, divine and human, and +also defences; and defences are either military weapons or protections; +and protections are veils, and also shields against heat and cold, and +shields against heat and cold are shelters and coverings; and coverings +are blankets and garments; and garments are some of them in one piece, +and others of them are made in several parts; and of these latter some +are stitched, others are fastened and not stitched; and of the not +stitched, some are made of the sinews of plants, and some of hair; and +of these, again, some are cemented with water and earth, and others are +fastened together by themselves. And these last defences and coverings +which are fastened together by themselves are called clothes, and +the art which superintends them we may call, from the nature of the +operation, the art of clothing, just as before the art of the Statesman +was derived from the State; and may we not say that the art of weaving, +at least that largest portion of it which was concerned with the making +of clothes, differs only in name from this art of clothing, in the same +way that, in the previous case, the royal science differed from the +political? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Most true. + +STRANGER: In the next place, let us make the reflection, that the art +of weaving clothes, which an incompetent person might fancy to have been +sufficiently described, has been separated off from several others which +are of the same family, but not from the co-operative arts. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: And which are the kindred arts? + +STRANGER: I see that I have not taken you with me. So I think that we +had better go backwards, starting from the end. We just now parted off +from the weaving of clothes, the making of blankets, which differ from +each other in that one is put under and the other is put around: and +these are what I termed kindred arts. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I understand. + +STRANGER: And we have subtracted the manufacture of all articles made +of flax and cords, and all that we just now metaphorically termed the +sinews of plants, and we have also separated off the process of felting +and the putting together of materials by stitching and sewing, of which +the most important part is the cobbler's art. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Precisely. + +STRANGER: Then we separated off the currier's art, which prepared +coverings in entire pieces, and the art of sheltering, and subtracted +the various arts of making water-tight which are employed in building, +and in general in carpentering, and in other crafts, and all such +arts as furnish impediments to thieving and acts of violence, and are +concerned with making the lids of boxes and the fixing of doors, being +divisions of the art of joining; and we also cut off the manufacture +of arms, which is a section of the great and manifold art of making +defences; and we originally began by parting off the whole of the magic +art which is concerned with antidotes, and have left, as would appear, +the very art of which we were in search, the art of protection against +winter cold, which fabricates woollen defences, and has the name of +weaving. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: Yes, my boy, but that is not all; for the first process to +which the material is subjected is the opposite of weaving. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How so? + +STRANGER: Weaving is a sort of uniting? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: But the first process is a separation of the clotted and +matted fibres? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean? + +STRANGER: I mean the work of the carder's art; for we cannot say that +carding is weaving, or that the carder is a weaver. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly not. + +STRANGER: Again, if a person were to say that the art of making the warp +and the woof was the art of weaving, he would say what was paradoxical +and false. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To be sure. + +STRANGER: Shall we say that the whole art of the fuller or of the mender +has nothing to do with the care and treatment of clothes, or are we to +regard all these as arts of weaving? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly not. + +STRANGER: And yet surely all these arts will maintain that they are +concerned with the treatment and production of clothes; they will +dispute the exclusive prerogative of weaving, and though assigning +a larger sphere to that, will still reserve a considerable field for +themselves. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: Besides these, there are the arts which make tools and +instruments of weaving, and which will claim at least to be co-operative +causes in every work of the weaver. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Most true. + +STRANGER: Well, then, suppose that we define weaving, or rather that +part of it which has been selected by us, to be the greatest and noblest +of arts which are concerned with woollen garments--shall we be right? +Is not the definition, although true, wanting in clearness and +completeness; for do not all those other arts require to be first +cleared away? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: Then the next thing will be to separate them, in order that +the argument may proceed in a regular manner? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: By all means. + +STRANGER: Let us consider, in the first place, that there are two kinds +of arts entering into everything which we do. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What are they? + +STRANGER: The one kind is the conditional or co-operative, the other the +principal cause. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean? + +STRANGER: The arts which do not manufacture the actual thing, but which +furnish the necessary tools for the manufacture, without which the +several arts could not fulfil their appointed work, are co-operative; +but those which make the things themselves are causal. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: A very reasonable distinction. + +STRANGER: Thus the arts which make spindles, combs, and other +instruments of the production of clothes, may be called co-operative, +and those which treat and fabricate the things themselves, causal. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: The arts of washing and mending, and the other preparatory +arts which belong to the causal class, and form a division of the +great art of adornment, may be all comprehended under what we call the +fuller's art. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good. + +STRANGER: Carding and spinning threads and all the parts of the process +which are concerned with the actual manufacture of a woollen garment +form a single art, which is one of those universally acknowledged,--the +art of working in wool. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To be sure. + +STRANGER: Of working in wool, again, there are two divisions, and both +these are parts of two arts at once. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How is that? + +STRANGER: Carding and one half of the use of the comb, and the other +processes of wool-working which separate the composite, may be classed +together as belonging both to the art of wool-working, and also to one +of the two great arts which are of universal application--the art of +composition and the art of division. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: To the latter belong carding and the other processes of which +I was just now speaking; the art of discernment or division in wool and +yarn, which is effected in one manner with the comb and in another with +the hands, is variously described under all the names which I just now +mentioned. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: Again, let us take some process of wool-working which is also +a portion of the art of composition, and, dismissing the elements of +division which we found there, make two halves, one on the principle of +composition, and the other on the principle of division. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Let that be done. + +STRANGER: And once more, Socrates, we must divide the part which belongs +at once both to wool-working and composition, if we are ever to discover +satisfactorily the aforesaid art of weaving. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: We must. + +STRANGER: Yes, certainly, and let us call one part of the art the art of +twisting threads, the other the art of combining them. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Do I understand you, in speaking of twisting, to be +referring to manufacture of the warp? + +STRANGER: Yes, and of the woof too; how, if not by twisting, is the woof +made? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: There is no other way. + +STRANGER: Then suppose that you define the warp and the woof, for I +think that the definition will be of use to you. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How shall I define them? + +STRANGER: As thus: A piece of carded wool which is drawn out lengthwise +and breadthwise is said to be pulled out. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: And the wool thus prepared, when twisted by the spindle, and +made into a firm thread, is called the warp, and the art which regulates +these operations the art of spinning the warp. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And the threads which are more loosely spun, having a softness +proportioned to the intertexture of the warp and to the degree of force +used in dressing the cloth,--the threads which are thus spun are called +the woof, and the art which is set over them may be called the art of +spinning the woof. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: And, now, there can be no mistake about the nature of the part +of weaving which we have undertaken to define. For when that part of the +art of composition which is employed in the working of wool forms a web +by the regular intertexture of warp and woof, the entire woven substance +is called by us a woollen garment, and the art which presides over this +is the art of weaving. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: But why did we not say at once that weaving is the art of +entwining warp and woof, instead of making a long and useless circuit? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I thought, Stranger, that there was nothing useless in +what was said. + +STRANGER: Very likely, but you may not always think so, my sweet friend; +and in case any feeling of dissatisfaction should hereafter arise in +your mind, as it very well may, let me lay down a principle which will +apply to arguments in general. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Proceed. + +STRANGER: Let us begin by considering the whole nature of excess and +defect, and then we shall have a rational ground on which we may praise +or blame too much length or too much shortness in discussions of this +kind. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Let us do so. + +STRANGER: The points on which I think that we ought to dwell are the +following:-- + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What? + +STRANGER: Length and shortness, excess and defect; with all of these the +art of measurement is conversant. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: And the art of measurement has to be divided into two parts, +with a view to our present purpose. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Where would you make the division? + +STRANGER: As thus: I would make two parts, one having regard to the +relativity of greatness and smallness to each other; and there is +another, without which the existence of production would be impossible. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean? + +STRANGER: Do you not think that it is only natural for the greater to be +called greater with reference to the less alone, and the less less with +reference to the greater alone? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: Well, but is there not also something exceeding and exceeded +by the principle of the mean, both in speech and action, and is not this +a reality, and the chief mark of difference between good and bad men? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Plainly. + +STRANGER: Then we must suppose that the great and small exist and are +discerned in both these ways, and not, as we were saying before, only +relatively to one another, but there must also be another comparison of +them with the mean or ideal standard; would you like to hear the reason +why? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: If we assume the greater to exist only in relation to the +less, there will never be any comparison of either with the mean. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And would not this doctrine be the ruin of all the arts and +their creations; would not the art of the Statesman and the aforesaid +art of weaving disappear? For all these arts are on the watch against +excess and defect, not as unrealities, but as real evils, which occasion +a difficulty in action; and the excellence or beauty of every work of +art is due to this observance of measure. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: But if the science of the Statesman disappears, the search for +the royal science will be impossible. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: Well, then, as in the case of the Sophist we extorted the +inference that not-being had an existence, because here was the point +at which the argument eluded our grasp, so in this we must endeavour +to show that the greater and less are not only to be measured with one +another, but also have to do with the production of the mean; for if +this is not admitted, neither a statesman nor any other man of action +can be an undisputed master of his science. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes, we must certainly do again what we did then. + +STRANGER: But this, Socrates, is a greater work than the other, of which +we only too well remember the length. I think, however, that we may +fairly assume something of this sort-- + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What? + +STRANGER: That we shall some day require this notion of a mean with a +view to the demonstration of absolute truth; meanwhile, the argument +that the very existence of the arts must be held to depend on the +possibility of measuring more or less, not only with one another, but +also with a view to the attainment of the mean, seems to afford a grand +support and satisfactory proof of the doctrine which we are maintaining; +for if there are arts, there is a standard of measure, and if there is a +standard of measure, there are arts; but if either is wanting, there is +neither. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True; and what is the next step? + +STRANGER: The next step clearly is to divide the art of measurement into +two parts, as we have said already, and to place in the one part all the +arts which measure number, length, depth, breadth, swiftness with their +opposites; and to have another part in which they are measured with the +mean, and the fit, and the opportune, and the due, and with all those +words, in short, which denote a mean or standard removed from the +extremes. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Here are two vast divisions, embracing two very +different spheres. + +STRANGER: There are many accomplished men, Socrates, who say, believing +themselves to speak wisely, that the art of measurement is universal, +and has to do with all things. And this means what we are now saying; +for all things which come within the province of art do certainly in +some sense partake of measure. But these persons, because they are +not accustomed to distinguish classes according to real forms, jumble +together two widely different things, relation to one another, and to a +standard, under the idea that they are the same, and also fall into +the converse error of dividing other things not according to their real +parts. Whereas the right way is, if a man has first seen the unity of +things, to go on with the enquiry and not desist until he has found all +the differences contained in it which form distinct classes; nor again +should he be able to rest contented with the manifold diversities which +are seen in a multitude of things until he has comprehended all of them +that have any affinity within the bounds of one similarity and embraced +them within the reality of a single kind. But we have said enough on +this head, and also of excess and defect; we have only to bear in mind +that two divisions of the art of measurement have been discovered which +are concerned with them, and not forget what they are. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: We will not forget. + +STRANGER: And now that this discussion is completed, let us go on to +consider another question, which concerns not this argument only but the +conduct of such arguments in general. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is this new question? + +STRANGER: Take the case of a child who is engaged in learning his +letters: when he is asked what letters make up a word, should we say +that the question is intended to improve his grammatical knowledge of +that particular word, or of all words? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Clearly, in order that he may have a better knowledge of +all words. + +STRANGER: And is our enquiry about the Statesman intended only to +improve our knowledge of politics, or our power of reasoning generally? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Clearly, as in the former example, the purpose is +general. + +STRANGER: Still less would any rational man seek to analyse the notion +of weaving for its own sake. But people seem to forget that some things +have sensible images, which are readily known, and can be easily pointed +out when any one desires to answer an enquirer without any trouble or +argument; whereas the greatest and highest truths have no outward image +of themselves visible to man, which he who wishes to satisfy the soul +of the enquirer can adapt to the eye of sense (compare Phaedr.), and +therefore we ought to train ourselves to give and accept a rational +account of them; for immaterial things, which are the noblest and +greatest, are shown only in thought and idea, and in no other way, and +all that we are now saying is said for the sake of them. Moreover, there +is always less difficulty in fixing the mind on small matters than on +great. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good. + +STRANGER: Let us call to mind the bearing of all this. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is it? + +STRANGER: I wanted to get rid of any impression of tediousness which we +may have experienced in the discussion about weaving, and the reversal +of the universe, and in the discussion concerning the Sophist and the +being of not-being. I know that they were felt to be too long, and I +reproached myself with this, fearing that they might be not only tedious +but irrelevant; and all that I have now said is only designed to prevent +the recurrence of any such disagreeables for the future. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good. Will you proceed? + +STRANGER: Then I would like to observe that you and I, remembering +what has been said, should praise or blame the length or shortness of +discussions, not by comparing them with one another, but with what is +fitting, having regard to the part of measurement, which, as we said, +was to be borne in mind. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: And yet, not everything is to be judged even with a view to +what is fitting; for we should only want such a length as is suited to +give pleasure, if at all, as a secondary matter; and reason tells us, +that we should be contented to make the ease or rapidity of an enquiry, +not our first, but our second object; the first and highest of all being +to assert the great method of division according to species--whether the +discourse be shorter or longer is not to the point. No offence should +be taken at length, but the longer and shorter are to be employed +indifferently, according as either of them is better calculated to +sharpen the wits of the auditors. Reason would also say to him who +censures the length of discourses on such occasions and cannot away with +their circumlocution, that he should not be in such a hurry to have +done with them, when he can only complain that they are tedious, but he +should prove that if they had been shorter they would have made +those who took part in them better dialecticians, and more capable of +expressing the truth of things; about any other praise and blame, he +need not trouble himself--he should pretend not to hear them. But we +have had enough of this, as you will probably agree with me in thinking. +Let us return to our Statesman, and apply to his case the aforesaid +example of weaving. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good;--let us do as you say. + +STRANGER: The art of the king has been separated from the similar arts +of shepherds, and, indeed, from all those which have to do with herds +at all. There still remain, however, of the causal and co-operative arts +those which are immediately concerned with States, and which must first +be distinguished from one another. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good. + +STRANGER: You know that these arts cannot easily be divided into two +halves; the reason will be very evident as we proceed. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Then we had better do so. + +STRANGER: We must carve them like a victim into members or limbs, since +we cannot bisect them. (Compare Phaedr.) For we certainly should divide +everything into as few parts as possible. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is to be done in this case? + +STRANGER: What we did in the example of weaving--all those arts which +furnish the tools were regarded by us as co-operative. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: So now, and with still more reason, all arts which make any +implement in a State, whether great or small, may be regarded by us as +co-operative, for without them neither State nor Statesmanship would +be possible; and yet we are not inclined to say that any of them is a +product of the kingly art. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: No, indeed. + +STRANGER: The task of separating this class from others is not an easy +one; for there is plausibility in saying that anything in the world +is the instrument of doing something. But there is another class of +possessions in a city, of which I have a word to say. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What class do you mean? + +STRANGER: A class which may be described as not having this power; that +is to say, not like an instrument, framed for production, but designed +for the preservation of that which is produced. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To what do you refer? + +STRANGER: To the class of vessels, as they are comprehensively termed, +which are constructed for the preservation of things moist and dry, of +things prepared in the fire or out of the fire; this is a very large +class, and has, if I am not mistaken, literally nothing to do with the +royal art of which we are in search. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly not. + +STRANGER: There is also a third class of possessions to be noted, +different from these and very extensive, moving or resting on land or +water, honourable and also dishonourable. The whole of this class has +one name, because it is intended to be sat upon, being always a seat for +something. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is it? + +STRANGER: A vehicle, which is certainly not the work of the Statesman, +but of the carpenter, potter, and coppersmith. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I understand. + +STRANGER: And is there not a fourth class which is again different, and +in which most of the things formerly mentioned are contained,--every +kind of dress, most sorts of arms, walls and enclosures, whether of +earth or stone, and ten thousand other things? all of which being made +for the sake of defence, may be truly called defences, and are for the +most part to be regarded as the work of the builder or of the weaver, +rather than of the Statesman. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Shall we add a fifth class, of ornamentation and drawing, and +of the imitations produced by drawing and music, which are designed for +amusement only, and may be fairly comprehended under one name? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is it? + +STRANGER: Plaything is the name. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: That one name may be fitly predicated of all of them, for none +of these things have a serious purpose--amusement is their sole aim. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That again I understand. + +STRANGER: Then there is a class which provides materials for all these, +out of which and in which the arts already mentioned fabricate their +works;--this manifold class, I say, which is the creation and offspring +of many other arts, may I not rank sixth? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean? + +STRANGER: I am referring to gold, silver, and other metals, and all +that wood-cutting and shearing of every sort provides for the art +of carpentry and plaiting; and there is the process of barking and +stripping the cuticle of plants, and the currier's art, which strips off +the skins of animals, and other similar arts which manufacture corks and +papyri and cords, and provide for the manufacture of composite species +out of simple kinds--the whole class may be termed the primitive and +simple possession of man, and with this the kingly science has no +concern at all. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: The provision of food and of all other things which mingle +their particles with the particles of the human body, and minister to +the body, will form a seventh class, which may be called by the general +term of nourishment, unless you have any better name to offer. This, +however, appertains rather to the husbandman, huntsman, trainer, doctor, +cook, and is not to be assigned to the Statesman's art. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly not. + +STRANGER: These seven classes include nearly every description of +property, with the exception of tame animals. Consider;--there was the +original material, which ought to have been placed first; next come +instruments, vessels, vehicles, defences, playthings, nourishment; small +things, which may be included under one of these--as for example, coins, +seals and stamps, are omitted, for they have not in them the character +of any larger kind which includes them; but some of them may, with a +little forcing, be placed among ornaments, and others may be made to +harmonize with the class of implements. The art of herding, which has +been already divided into parts, will include all property in tame +animals, except slaves. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: The class of slaves and ministers only remains, and I suspect +that in this the real aspirants for the throne, who are the rivals of +the king in the formation of the political web, will be discovered; +just as spinners, carders, and the rest of them, were the rivals of the +weaver. All the others, who were termed co-operators, have been got rid +of among the occupations already mentioned, and separated from the royal +and political science. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I agree. + +STRANGER: Let us go a little nearer, in order that we may be more +certain of the complexion of this remaining class. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Let us do so. + +STRANGER: We shall find from our present point of view that the greatest +servants are in a case and condition which is the reverse of what we +anticipated. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Who are they? + +STRANGER: Those who have been purchased, and have so become possessions; +these are unmistakably slaves, and certainly do not claim royal science. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly not. + +STRANGER: Again, freemen who of their own accord become the servants of +the other classes in a State, and who exchange and equalise the products +of husbandry and the other arts, some sitting in the market-place, +others going from city to city by land or sea, and giving money in +exchange for money or for other productions--the money-changer, the +merchant, the ship-owner, the retailer, will not put in any claim to +statecraft or politics? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: No; unless, indeed, to the politics of commerce. + +STRANGER: But surely men whom we see acting as hirelings and serfs, and +too happy to turn their hand to anything, will not profess to share in +royal science? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly not. + +STRANGER: But what would you say of some other serviceable officials? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Who are they, and what services do they perform? + +STRANGER: There are heralds, and scribes perfected by practice, +and divers others who have great skill in various sorts of business +connected with the government of states--what shall we call them? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: They are the officials, and servants of the rulers, as +you just now called them, but not themselves rulers. + +STRANGER: There may be something strange in any servant pretending to be +a ruler, and yet I do not think that I could have been dreaming when +I imagined that the principal claimants to political science would be +found somewhere in this neighbourhood. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: Well, let us draw nearer, and try the claims of some who have +not yet been tested: in the first place, there are diviners, who have +a portion of servile or ministerial science, and are thought to be the +interpreters of the gods to men. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: There is also the priestly class, who, as the law declares, +know how to give the gods gifts from men in the form of sacrifices which +are acceptable to them, and to ask on our behalf blessings in return +from them. Now both these are branches of the servile or ministerial +art. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes, clearly. + +STRANGER: And here I think that we seem to be getting on the right +track; for the priest and the diviner are swollen with pride and +prerogative, and they create an awful impression of themselves by +the magnitude of their enterprises; in Egypt, the king himself is not +allowed to reign, unless he have priestly powers, and if he should be +of another class and has thrust himself in, he must get enrolled in +the priesthood. In many parts of Hellas, the duty of offering the most +solemn propitiatory sacrifices is assigned to the highest magistracies, +and here, at Athens, the most solemn and national of the ancient +sacrifices are supposed to be celebrated by him who has been chosen by +lot to be the King Archon. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Precisely. + +STRANGER: But who are these other kings and priests elected by lot who +now come into view followed by their retainers and a vast throng, as the +former class disappears and the scene changes? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Whom can you mean? + +STRANGER: They are a strange crew. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Why strange? + +STRANGER: A minute ago I thought that they were animals of every tribe; +for many of them are like lions and centaurs, and many more like satyrs +and such weak and shifty creatures;--Protean shapes quickly changing +into one another's forms and natures; and now, Socrates, I begin to see +who they are. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Who are they? You seem to be gazing on some strange +vision. + +STRANGER: Yes; every one looks strange when you do not know him; +and just now I myself fell into this mistake--at first sight, coming +suddenly upon him, I did not recognize the politician and his troop. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Who is he? + +STRANGER: The chief of Sophists and most accomplished of wizards, who +must at any cost be separated from the true king or Statesman, if we are +ever to see daylight in the present enquiry. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That is a hope not lightly to be renounced. + +STRANGER: Never, if I can help it; and, first, let me ask you a +question. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What? + +STRANGER: Is not monarchy a recognized form of government? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: And, after monarchy, next in order comes the government of the +few? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Of course. + +STRANGER: Is not the third form of government the rule of the multitude, +which is called by the name of democracy? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: And do not these three expand in a manner into five, producing +out of themselves two other names? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What are they? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What are they? + +STRANGER: There is a criterion of voluntary and involuntary, poverty and +riches, law and the absence of law, which men now-a-days apply to them; +the two first they subdivide accordingly, and ascribe to monarchy two +forms and two corresponding names, royalty and tyranny. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: And the government of the few they distinguish by the names of +aristocracy and oligarchy. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Democracy alone, whether rigidly observing the laws or not, +and whether the multitude rule over the men of property with their +consent or against their consent, always in ordinary language has the +same name. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: But do you suppose that any form of government which is +defined by these characteristics of the one, the few, or the many, of +poverty or wealth, of voluntary or compulsory submission, of written law +or the absence of law, can be a right one? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Why not? + +STRANGER: Reflect; and follow me. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: In what direction? + +STRANGER: Shall we abide by what we said at first, or shall we retract +our words? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To what do you refer? + +STRANGER: If I am not mistaken, we said that royal power was a science? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: And a science of a peculiar kind, which was selected out +of the rest as having a character which is at once judicial and +authoritative? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: And there was one kind of authority over lifeless things and +another other living animals; and so we proceeded in the division step +by step up to this point, not losing the idea of science, but unable as +yet to determine the nature of the particular science? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: Hence we are led to observe that the distinguishing principle +of the State cannot be the few or many, the voluntary or involuntary, +poverty or riches; but some notion of science must enter into it, if we +are to be consistent with what has preceded. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: And we must be consistent. + +STRANGER: Well, then, in which of these various forms of States may the +science of government, which is among the greatest of all sciences and +most difficult to acquire, be supposed to reside? That we must discover, +and then we shall see who are the false politicians who pretend to be +politicians but are not, although they persuade many, and shall separate +them from the wise king. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That, as the argument has already intimated, will be our +duty. + +STRANGER: Do you think that the multitude in a State can attain +political science? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Impossible. + +STRANGER: But, perhaps, in a city of a thousand men, there would be a +hundred, or say fifty, who could? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: In that case political science would certainly be the +easiest of all sciences; there could not be found in a city of that +number as many really first-rate draught-players, if judged by the +standard of the rest of Hellas, and there would certainly not be as +many kings. For kings we may truly call those who possess royal science, +whether they rule or not, as was shown in the previous argument. + +STRANGER: Thank you for reminding me; and the consequence is that any +true form of government can only be supposed to be the government of +one, two, or, at any rate, of a few. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: And these, whether they rule with the will, or against the +will, of their subjects, with written laws or without written laws, and +whether they are poor or rich, and whatever be the nature of their +rule, must be supposed, according to our present view, to rule on some +scientific principle; just as the physician, whether he cures us +against our will or with our will, and whatever be his mode of +treatment,--incision, burning, or the infliction of some other +pain,--whether he practises out of a book or not out of a book, and +whether he be rich or poor, whether he purges or reduces in some other +way, or even fattens his patients, is a physician all the same, so long +as he exercises authority over them according to rules of art, if he +only does them good and heals and saves them. And this we lay down to +be the only proper test of the art of medicine, or of any other art of +command. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Quite true. + +STRANGER: Then that can be the only true form of government in which +the governors are really found to possess science, and are not mere +pretenders, whether they rule according to law or without law, over +willing or unwilling subjects, and are rich or poor themselves--none +of these things can with any propriety be included in the notion of the +ruler. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And whether with a view to the public good they purge the +State by killing some, or exiling some; whether they reduce the size of +the body corporate by sending out from the hive swarms of citizens, +or, by introducing persons from without, increase it; while they act +according to the rules of wisdom and justice, and use their power with +a view to the general security and improvement, the city over which they +rule, and which has these characteristics, may be described as the only +true State. All other governments are not genuine or real; but only +imitations of this, and some of them are better and some of them are +worse; the better are said to be well governed, but they are mere +imitations like the others. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I agree, Stranger, in the greater part of what you say; +but as to their ruling without laws--the expression has a harsh sound. + +STRANGER: You have been too quick for me, Socrates; I was just going to +ask you whether you objected to any of my statements. And now I see that +we shall have to consider this notion of there being good government +without laws. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: There can be no doubt that legislation is in a manner the +business of a king, and yet the best thing of all is not that the law +should rule, but that a man should rule supposing him to have wisdom and +royal power. Do you see why this is? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Why? + +STRANGER: Because the law does not perfectly comprehend what is noblest +and most just for all and therefore cannot enforce what is best. The +differences of men and actions, and the endless irregular movements of +human things, do not admit of any universal and simple rule. And no art +whatsoever can lay down a rule which will last for all time. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Of course not. + +STRANGER: But the law is always striving to make one;--like an obstinate +and ignorant tyrant, who will not allow anything to be done contrary to +his appointment, or any question to be asked--not even in sudden changes +of circumstances, when something happens to be better than what he +commanded for some one. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly; the law treats us all precisely in the manner +which you describe. + +STRANGER: A perfectly simple principle can never be applied to a state +of things which is the reverse of simple. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: Then if the law is not the perfection of right, why are +we compelled to make laws at all? The reason of this has next to be +investigated. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Let me ask, whether you have not meetings for gymnastic +contests in your city, such as there are in other cities, at which men +compete in running, wrestling, and the like? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes; they are very common among us. + +STRANGER: And what are the rules which are enforced on their pupils by +professional trainers or by others having similar authority? Can you +remember? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To what do you refer? + +STRANGER: The training-masters do not issue minute rules for +individuals, or give every individual what is exactly suited to his +constitution; they think that they ought to go more roughly to work, and +to prescribe generally the regimen which will benefit the majority. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: And therefore they assign equal amounts of exercise to them +all; they send them forth together, and let them rest together from +their running, wrestling, or whatever the form of bodily exercise may +be. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And now observe that the legislator who has to preside over +the herd, and to enforce justice in their dealings with one another, +will not be able, in enacting for the general good, to provide exactly +what is suitable for each particular case. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: He cannot be expected to do so. + +STRANGER: He will lay down laws in a general form for the majority, +roughly meeting the cases of individuals; and some of them he will +deliver in writing, and others will be unwritten; and these last will be +traditional customs of the country. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: He will be right. + +STRANGER: Yes, quite right; for how can he sit at every man's side all +through his life, prescribing for him the exact particulars of his duty? +Who, Socrates, would be equal to such a task? No one who really had the +royal science, if he had been able to do this, would have imposed upon +himself the restriction of a written law. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: So I should infer from what has now been said. + +STRANGER: Or rather, my good friend, from what is going to be said. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: And what is that? + +STRANGER: Let us put to ourselves the case of a physician, or trainer, +who is about to go into a far country, and is expecting to be a long +time away from his patients--thinking that his instructions will not be +remembered unless they are written down, he will leave notes of them for +the use of his pupils or patients. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: But what would you say, if he came back sooner than he had +intended, and, owing to an unexpected change of the winds or other +celestial influences, something else happened to be better for +them,--would he not venture to suggest this new remedy, although not +contemplated in his former prescription? Would he persist in observing +the original law, neither himself giving any new commandments, nor the +patient daring to do otherwise than was prescribed, under the idea +that this course only was healthy and medicinal, all others noxious and +heterodox? Viewed in the light of science and true art, would not all +such enactments be utterly ridiculous? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Utterly. + +STRANGER: And if he who gave laws, written or unwritten, determining +what was good or bad, honourable or dishonourable, just or unjust, to +the tribes of men who flock together in their several cities, and are +governed in accordance with them; if, I say, the wise legislator were +suddenly to come again, or another like to him, is he to be prohibited +from changing them?--would not this prohibition be in reality quite as +ridiculous as the other? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Do you know a plausible saying of the common people which is +in point? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I do not recall what you mean at the moment. + +STRANGER: They say that if any one knows how the ancient laws may be +improved, he must first persuade his own State of the improvement, and +then he may legislate, but not otherwise. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: And are they not right? + +STRANGER: I dare say. But supposing that he does use some gentle +violence for their good, what is this violence to be called? Or rather, +before you answer, let me ask the same question in reference to our +previous instances. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean? + +STRANGER: Suppose that a skilful physician has a patient, of whatever +sex or age, whom he compels against his will to do something for his +good which is contrary to the written rules; what is this compulsion to +be called? Would you ever dream of calling it a violation of the art, +or a breach of the laws of health? Nothing could be more unjust than for +the patient to whom such violence is applied, to charge the physician +who practises the violence with wanting skill or aggravating his +disease. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Most true. + +STRANGER: In the political art error is not called disease, but evil, or +disgrace, or injustice. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Quite true. + +STRANGER: And when the citizen, contrary to law and custom, is compelled +to do what is juster and better and nobler than he did before, the last +and most absurd thing which he could say about such violence is that +he has incurred disgrace or evil or injustice at the hands of those who +compelled him. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: And shall we say that the violence, if exercised by a rich +man, is just, and if by a poor man, unjust? May not any man, rich or +poor, with or without laws, with the will of the citizens or against +the will of the citizens, do what is for their interest? Is not this the +true principle of government, according to which the wise and good +man will order the affairs of his subjects? As the pilot, by watching +continually over the interests of the ship and of the crew,--not by +laying down rules, but by making his art a law,--preserves the lives of +his fellow-sailors, even so, and in the self-same way, may there not +be a true form of polity created by those who are able to govern in a +similar spirit, and who show a strength of art which is superior to the +law? Nor can wise rulers ever err while they observing the one great +rule of distributing justice to the citizens with intelligence and +skill, are able to preserve them, and, as far as may be, to make them +better from being worse. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: No one can deny what has been now said. + +STRANGER: Neither, if you consider, can any one deny the other +statement. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What was it? + +STRANGER: We said that no great number of persons, whoever they may be, +can attain political knowledge, or order a State wisely, but that the +true government is to be found in a small body, or in an individual, and +that other States are but imitations of this, as we said a little while +ago, some for the better and some for the worse. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean? I cannot have understood your previous +remark about imitations. + +STRANGER: And yet the mere suggestion which I hastily threw out is +highly important, even if we leave the question where it is, and do not +seek by the discussion of it to expose the error which prevails in this +matter. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean? + +STRANGER: The idea which has to be grasped by us is not easy or +familiar; but we may attempt to express it thus:--Supposing the +government of which I have been speaking to be the only true model, then +the others must use the written laws of this--in no other way can they +be saved; they will have to do what is now generally approved, although +not the best thing in the world. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is this? + +STRANGER: No citizen should do anything contrary to the laws, and any +infringement of them should be punished with death and the most extreme +penalties; and this is very right and good when regarded as the +second best thing, if you set aside the first, of which I was just now +speaking. Shall I explain the nature of what I call the second best? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: By all means. + +STRANGER: I must again have recourse to my favourite images; through +them, and them alone, can I describe kings and rulers. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What images? + +STRANGER: The noble pilot and the wise physician, who 'is worth many +another man'--in the similitude of these let us endeavour to discover +some image of the king. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What sort of an image? + +STRANGER: Well, such as this:--Every man will reflect that he suffers +strange things at the hands of both of them; the physician saves +any whom he wishes to save, and any whom he wishes to maltreat he +maltreats--cutting or burning them; and at the same time requiring them +to bring him payments, which are a sort of tribute, of which little or +nothing is spent upon the sick man, and the greater part is consumed by +him and his domestics; and the finale is that he receives money from the +relations of the sick man or from some enemy of his, and puts him out of +the way. And the pilots of ships are guilty of numberless evil deeds of +the same kind; they intentionally play false and leave you ashore when +the hour of sailing arrives; or they cause mishaps at sea and cast away +their freight; and are guilty of other rogueries. Now suppose that we, +bearing all this in mind, were to determine, after consideration, that +neither of these arts shall any longer be allowed to exercise absolute +control either over freemen or over slaves, but that we will summon an +assembly either of all the people, or of the rich only, that anybody who +likes, whatever may be his calling, or even if he have no calling, may +offer an opinion either about seamanship or about diseases--whether as +to the manner in which physic or surgical instruments are to be applied +to the patient, or again about the vessels and the nautical implements +which are required in navigation, and how to meet the dangers of +winds and waves which are incidental to the voyage, how to behave when +encountering pirates, and what is to be done with the old-fashioned +galleys, if they have to fight with others of a similar build--and that, +whatever shall be decreed by the multitude on these points, upon +the advice of persons skilled or unskilled, shall be written down on +triangular tablets and columns, or enacted although unwritten to be +national customs; and that in all future time vessels shall be navigated +and remedies administered to the patient after this fashion. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What a strange notion! + +STRANGER: Suppose further, that the pilots and physicians are appointed +annually, either out of the rich, or out of the whole people, and that +they are elected by lot; and that after their election they navigate +vessels and heal the sick according to the written rules. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Worse and worse. + +STRANGER: But hear what follows:--When the year of office has expired, +the pilot or physician has to come before a court of review, in which +the judges are either selected from the wealthy classes or chosen by lot +out of the whole people; and anybody who pleases may be their accuser, +and may lay to their charge, that during the past year they have not +navigated their vessels or healed their patients according to the letter +of the law and the ancient customs of their ancestors; and if either of +them is condemned, some of the judges must fix what he is to suffer or +pay. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: He who is willing to take a command under such +conditions, deserves to suffer any penalty. + +STRANGER: Yet once more, we shall have to enact that if any one is +detected enquiring into piloting and navigation, or into health and the +true nature of medicine, or about the winds, or other conditions of the +atmosphere, contrary to the written rules, and has any ingenious notions +about such matters, he is not to be called a pilot or physician, but a +cloudy prating sophist;--further, on the ground that he is a corrupter +of the young, who would persuade them to follow the art of medicine or +piloting in an unlawful manner, and to exercise an arbitrary rule over +their patients or ships, any one who is qualified by law may inform +against him, and indict him in some court, and then if he is found to +be persuading any, whether young or old, to act contrary to the written +law, he is to be punished with the utmost rigour; for no one should +presume to be wiser than the laws; and as touching healing and health +and piloting and navigation, the nature of them is known to all, for +anybody may learn the written laws and the national customs. If such +were the mode of procedure, Socrates, about these sciences and about +generalship, and any branch of hunting, or about painting or imitation +in general, or carpentry, or any sort of handicraft, or husbandry, or +planting, or if we were to see an art of rearing horses, or tending +herds, or divination, or any ministerial service, or draught-playing, or +any science conversant with number, whether simple or square or cube, +or comprising motion,--I say, if all these things were done in this way +according to written regulations, and not according to art, what would +be the result? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: All the arts would utterly perish, and could never be +recovered, because enquiry would be unlawful. And human life, which is +bad enough already, would then become utterly unendurable. + +STRANGER: But what, if while compelling all these operations to be +regulated by written law, we were to appoint as the guardian of the laws +some one elected by a show of hands, or by lot, and he caring nothing +about the laws, were to act contrary to them from motives of interest +or favour, and without knowledge,--would not this be a still worse evil +than the former? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: To go against the laws, which are based upon long experience, +and the wisdom of counsellors who have graciously recommended them and +persuaded the multitude to pass them, would be a far greater and more +ruinous error than any adherence to written law? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: Therefore, as there is a danger of this, the next best thing +in legislating is not to allow either the individual or the multitude to +break the law in any respect whatever. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: The laws would be copies of the true particulars of action as +far as they admit of being written down from the lips of those who have +knowledge? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly they would. + +STRANGER: And, as we were saying, he who has knowledge and is a true +Statesman, will do many things within his own sphere of action by his +art without regard to the laws, when he is of opinion that something +other than that which he has written down and enjoined to be observed +during his absence would be better. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes, we said so. + +STRANGER: And any individual or any number of men, having fixed laws, in +acting contrary to them with a view to something better, would only be +acting, as far as they are able, like the true Statesman? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: If they had no knowledge of what they were doing, they would +imitate the truth, and they would always imitate ill; but if they had +knowledge, the imitation would be the perfect truth, and an imitation no +longer. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Quite true. + +STRANGER: And the principle that no great number of men are able to +acquire a knowledge of any art has been already admitted by us. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes, it has. + +STRANGER: Then the royal or political art, if there be such an art, will +never be attained either by the wealthy or by the other mob. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Impossible. + +STRANGER: Then the nearest approach which these lower forms of +government can ever make to the true government of the one scientific +ruler, is to do nothing contrary to their own written laws and national +customs. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good. + +STRANGER: When the rich imitate the true form, such a government is +called aristocracy; and when they are regardless of the laws, oligarchy. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: Or again, when an individual rules according to law in +imitation of him who knows, we call him a king; and if he rules +according to law, we give him the same name, whether he rules with +opinion or with knowledge. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To be sure. + +STRANGER: And when an individual truly possessing knowledge rules, his +name will surely be the same--he will be called a king; and thus the +five names of governments, as they are now reckoned, become one. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That is true. + +STRANGER: And when an individual ruler governs neither by law nor by +custom, but following in the steps of the true man of science pretends +that he can only act for the best by violating the laws, while in +reality appetite and ignorance are the motives of the imitation, may not +such an one be called a tyrant? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: And this we believe to be the origin of the tyrant and the +king, of oligarchies, and aristocracies, and democracies,--because men +are offended at the one monarch, and can never be made to believe that +any one can be worthy of such authority, or is able and willing in the +spirit of virtue and knowledge to act justly and holily to all; they +fancy that he will be a despot who will wrong and harm and slay whom he +pleases of us; for if there could be such a despot as we describe, they +would acknowledge that we ought to be too glad to have him, and that he +alone would be the happy ruler of a true and perfect State. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To be sure. + +STRANGER: But then, as the State is not like a beehive, and has no +natural head who is at once recognized to be the superior both in body +and in mind, mankind are obliged to meet and make laws, and endeavour to +approach as nearly as they can to the true form of government. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And when the foundation of politics is in the letter only +and in custom, and knowledge is divorced from action, can we wonder, +Socrates, at the miseries which there are, and always will be, in +States? Any other art, built on such a foundation and thus conducted, +would ruin all that it touched. Ought we not rather to wonder at the +natural strength of the political bond? For States have endured all +this, time out of mind, and yet some of them still remain and are not +overthrown, though many of them, like ships at sea, founder from time +to time, and perish and have perished and will hereafter perish, through +the badness of their pilots and crews, who have the worst sort of +ignorance of the highest truths--I mean to say, that they are wholly +unaquainted with politics, of which, above all other sciences, they +believe themselves to have acquired the most perfect knowledge. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: Then the question arises:--which of these untrue forms of +government is the least oppressive to their subjects, though they are +all oppressive; and which is the worst of them? Here is a consideration +which is beside our present purpose, and yet having regard to the whole +it seems to influence all our actions: we must examine it. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes, we must. + +STRANGER: You may say that of the three forms, the same is at once the +hardest and the easiest. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What do you mean? + +STRANGER: I am speaking of the three forms of government, which I +mentioned at the beginning of this discussion--monarchy, the rule of the +few, and the rule of the many. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: If we divide each of these we shall have six, from which the +true one may be distinguished as a seventh. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How would you make the division? + +STRANGER: Monarchy divides into royalty and tyranny; the rule of the +few into aristocracy, which has an auspicious name, and oligarchy; and +democracy or the rule of the many, which before was one, must now be +divided. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: On what principle of division? + +STRANGER: On the same principle as before, although the name is now +discovered to have a twofold meaning. For the distinction of ruling with +law or without law, applies to this as well as to the rest. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: The division made no difference when we were looking for the +perfect State, as we showed before. But now that this has been separated +off, and, as we said, the others alone are left for us, the principle of +law and the absence of law will bisect them all. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That would seem to follow, from what has been said. + +STRANGER: Then monarchy, when bound by good prescriptions or laws, +is the best of all the six, and when lawless is the most bitter and +oppressive to the subject. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: The government of the few, which is intermediate between that +of the one and many, is also intermediate in good and evil; but the +government of the many is in every respect weak and unable to do either +any great good or any great evil, when compared with the others, because +the offices are too minutely subdivided and too many hold them. And this +therefore is the worst of all lawful governments, and the best of all +lawless ones. If they are all without the restraints of law, democracy +is the form in which to live is best; if they are well ordered, then +this is the last which you should choose, as royalty, the first form, is +the best, with the exception of the seventh, for that excels them all, +and is among States what God is among men. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: You are quite right, and we should choose that above +all. + +STRANGER: The members of all these States, with the exception of the +one which has knowledge, may be set aside as being not Statesmen but +partisans,--upholders of the most monstrous idols, and themselves idols; +and, being the greatest imitators and magicians, they are also the +greatest of Sophists. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: The name of Sophist after many windings in the argument +appears to have been most justly fixed upon the politicians, as they are +termed. + +STRANGER: And so our satyric drama has been played out; and the troop of +Centaurs and Satyrs, however unwilling to leave the stage, have at last +been separated from the political science. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: So I perceive. + +STRANGER: There remain, however, natures still more troublesome, because +they are more nearly akin to the king, and more difficult to discern; +the examination of them may be compared to the process of refining gold. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is your meaning? + +STRANGER: The workmen begin by sifting away the earth and stones and +the like; there remain in a confused mass the valuable elements akin to +gold, which can only be separated by fire,--copper, silver, and other +precious metal; these are at last refined away by the use of tests, +until the gold is left quite pure. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes, that is the way in which these things are said to +be done. + +STRANGER: In like manner, all alien and uncongenial matter has been +separated from political science, and what is precious and of a kindred +nature has been left; there remain the nobler arts of the general and +the judge, and the higher sort of oratory which is an ally of the royal +art, and persuades men to do justice, and assists in guiding the helm of +States:--How can we best clear away all these, leaving him whom we seek +alone and unalloyed? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That is obviously what has in some way to be attempted. + +STRANGER: If the attempt is all that is wanting, he shall certainly be +brought to light; and I think that the illustration of music may assist +in exhibiting him. Please to answer me a question. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What question? + +STRANGER: There is such a thing as learning music or handicraft arts in +general? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: There is. + +STRANGER: And is there any higher art or science, having power to decide +which of these arts are and are not to be learned;--what do you say? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I should answer that there is. + +STRANGER: And do we acknowledge this science to be different from the +others? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: And ought the other sciences to be superior to this, or no +single science to any other? Or ought this science to be the overseer +and governor of all the others? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: The latter. + +STRANGER: You mean to say that the science which judges whether we ought +to learn or not, must be superior to the science which is learned or +which teaches? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Far superior. + +STRANGER: And the science which determines whether we ought to persuade +or not, must be superior to the science which is able to persuade? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Of course. + +STRANGER: Very good; and to what science do we assign the power of +persuading a multitude by a pleasing tale and not by teaching? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That power, I think, must clearly be assigned to +rhetoric. + +STRANGER: And to what science do we give the power of determining +whether we are to employ persuasion or force towards any one, or to +refrain altogether? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To that science which governs the arts of speech and +persuasion. + +STRANGER: Which, if I am not mistaken, will be politics? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good. + +STRANGER: Rhetoric seems to be quickly distinguished from politics, +being a different species, yet ministering to it. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: But what would you think of another sort of power or science? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What science? + +STRANGER: The science which has to do with military operations against +our enemies--is that to be regarded as a science or not? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How can generalship and military tactics be regarded as +other than a science? + +STRANGER: And is the art which is able and knows how to advise when we +are to go to war, or to make peace, the same as this or different? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: If we are to be consistent, we must say different. + +STRANGER: And we must also suppose that this rules the other, if we are +not to give up our former notion? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And, considering how great and terrible the whole art of war +is, can we imagine any which is superior to it but the truly royal? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: No other. + +STRANGER: The art of the general is only ministerial, and therefore not +political? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Exactly. + +STRANGER: Once more let us consider the nature of the righteous judge. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very good. + +STRANGER: Does he do anything but decide the dealings of men with one +another to be just or unjust in accordance with the standard which he +receives from the king and legislator,--showing his own peculiar virtue +only in this, that he is not perverted by gifts, or fears, or pity, or +by any sort of favour or enmity, into deciding the suits of men with one +another contrary to the appointment of the legislator? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: No; his office is such as you describe. + +STRANGER: Then the inference is that the power of the judge is not +royal, but only the power of a guardian of the law which ministers to +the royal power? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: The review of all these sciences shows that none of them is +political or royal. For the truly royal ought not itself to act, but to +rule over those who are able to act; the king ought to know what is and +what is not a fitting opportunity for taking the initiative in matters +of the greatest importance, whilst others should execute his orders. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And, therefore, the arts which we have described, as they +have no authority over themselves or one another, but are each of them +concerned with some special action of their own, have, as they ought to +have, special names corresponding to their several actions. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I agree. + +STRANGER: And the science which is over them all, and has charge of the +laws, and of all matters affecting the State, and truly weaves them +all into one, if we would describe under a name characteristic of their +common nature, most truly we may call politics. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Exactly so. + +STRANGER: Then, now that we have discovered the various classes in +a State, shall I analyse politics after the pattern which weaving +supplied? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I greatly wish that you would. + +STRANGER: Then I must describe the nature of the royal web, and show how +the various threads are woven into one piece. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Clearly. + +STRANGER: A task has to be accomplished, which, although difficult, +appears to be necessary. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly the attempt must be made. + +STRANGER: To assume that one part of virtue differs in kind from +another, is a position easily assailable by contentious disputants, who +appeal to popular opinion. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I do not understand. + +STRANGER: Let me put the matter in another way: I suppose that you would +consider courage to be a part of virtue? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly I should. + +STRANGER: And you would think temperance to be different from courage; +and likewise to be a part of virtue? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: I shall venture to put forward a strange theory about them. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is it? + +STRANGER: That they are two principles which thoroughly hate one another +and are antagonistic throughout a great part of nature. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How singular! + +STRANGER: Yes, very--for all the parts of virtue are commonly said to be +friendly to one another. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes. + +STRANGER: Then let us carefully investigate whether this is universally +true, or whether there are not parts of virtue which are at war with +their kindred in some respect. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Tell me how we shall consider that question. + +STRANGER: We must extend our enquiry to all those things which we +consider beautiful and at the same time place in two opposite classes. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Explain; what are they? + +STRANGER: Acuteness and quickness, whether in body or soul or in the +movement of sound, and the imitations of them which painting and music +supply, you must have praised yourself before now, or been present when +others praised them. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: And do you remember the terms in which they are praised? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I do not. + +STRANGER: I wonder whether I can explain to you in words the thought +which is passing in my mind. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Why not? + +STRANGER: You fancy that this is all so easy: Well, let us consider +these notions with reference to the opposite classes of action under +which they fall. When we praise quickness and energy and acuteness, +whether of mind or body or sound, we express our praise of the quality +which we admire by one word, and that one word is manliness or courage. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How? + +STRANGER: We speak of an action as energetic and brave, quick and manly, +and vigorous too; and when we apply the name of which I speak as the +common attribute of all these natures, we certainly praise them. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: And do we not often praise the quiet strain of action also? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To be sure. + +STRANGER: And do we not then say the opposite of what we said of the +other? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How do you mean? + +STRANGER: We exclaim How calm! How temperate! in admiration of the slow +and quiet working of the intellect, and of steadiness and gentleness in +action, of smoothness and depth of voice, and of all rhythmical movement +and of music in general, when these have a proper solemnity. Of all such +actions we predicate not courage, but a name indicative of order. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: But when, on the other hand, either of these is out of place, +the names of either are changed into terms of censure. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How so? + +STRANGER: Too great sharpness or quickness or hardness is termed +violence or madness; too great slowness or gentleness is called +cowardice or sluggishness; and we may observe, that for the most part +these qualities, and the temperance and manliness of the opposite +characters, are arrayed as enemies on opposite sides, and do not mingle +with one another in their respective actions; and if we pursue the +enquiry, we shall find that men who have these different qualities of +mind differ from one another. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: In what respect? + +STRANGER: In respect of all the qualities which I mentioned, and very +likely of many others. According to their respective affinities to +either class of actions they distribute praise and blame,--praise to +the actions which are akin to their own, blame to those of the opposite +party--and out of this many quarrels and occasions of quarrel arise +among them. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: The difference between the two classes is often a trivial +concern; but in a state, and when affecting really important matters, +becomes of all disorders the most hateful. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To what do you refer? + +STRANGER: To nothing short of the whole regulation of human life. For +the orderly class are always ready to lead a peaceful life, quietly +doing their own business; this is their manner of behaving with all +men at home, and they are equally ready to find some way of keeping the +peace with foreign States. And on account of this fondness of theirs for +peace, which is often out of season where their influence prevails, they +become by degrees unwarlike, and bring up their young men to be like +themselves; they are at the mercy of their enemies; whence in a +few years they and their children and the whole city often pass +imperceptibly from the condition of freemen into that of slaves. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What a cruel fate! + +STRANGER: And now think of what happens with the more courageous +natures. Are they not always inciting their country to go to war, owing +to their excessive love of the military life? they raise up enemies +against themselves many and mighty, and either utterly ruin their +native-land or enslave and subject it to its foes? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That, again, is true. + +STRANGER: Must we not admit, then, that where these two classes exist, +they always feel the greatest antipathy and antagonism towards one +another? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: We cannot deny it. + +STRANGER: And returning to the enquiry with which we began, have we +not found that considerable portions of virtue are at variance with one +another, and give rise to a similar opposition in the characters who are +endowed with them? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: True. + +STRANGER: Let us consider a further point. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: What is it? + +STRANGER: I want to know, whether any constructive art will make +any, even the most trivial thing, out of bad and good materials +indifferently, if this can be helped? does not all art rather reject the +bad as far as possible, and accept the good and fit materials, and from +these elements, whether like or unlike, gathering them all into one, +work out some nature or idea? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: To, be sure. + +STRANGER: Then the true and natural art of statesmanship will never +allow any State to be formed by a combination of good and bad men, if +this can be avoided; but will begin by testing human natures in play, +and after testing them, will entrust them to proper teachers who are the +ministers of her purposes--she will herself give orders, and maintain +authority; just as the art of weaving continually gives orders and +maintains authority over the carders and all the others who prepare the +material for the work, commanding the subsidiary arts to execute the +works which she deems necessary for making the web. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Quite true. + +STRANGER: In like manner, the royal science appears to me to be the +mistress of all lawful educators and instructors, and having this +queenly power, will not permit them to train men in what will produce +characters unsuited to the political constitution which she desires to +create, but only in what will produce such as are suitable. Those +which have no share of manliness and temperance, or any other virtuous +inclination, and, from the necessity of an evil nature, are violently +carried away to godlessness and insolence and injustice, she gets rid of +by death and exile, and punishes them with the greatest of disgraces. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That is commonly said. + +STRANGER: But those who are wallowing in ignorance and baseness she bows +under the yoke of slavery. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Quite right. + +STRANGER: The rest of the citizens, out of whom, if they have education, +something noble may be made, and who are capable of being united by the +statesman, the kingly art blends and weaves together; taking on the one +hand those whose natures tend rather to courage, which is the stronger +element and may be regarded as the warp, and on the other hand those +which incline to order and gentleness, and which are represented in +the figure as spun thick and soft, after the manner of the woof--these, +which are naturally opposed, she seeks to bind and weave together in the +following manner: + +YOUNG SOCRATES: In what manner? + +STRANGER: First of all, she takes the eternal element of the soul and +binds it with a divine cord, to which it is akin, and then the animal +nature, and binds that with human cords. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: I do not understand what you mean. + +STRANGER: The meaning is, that the opinion about the honourable and +the just and good and their opposites, which is true and confirmed +by reason, is a divine principle, and when implanted in the soul, is +implanted, as I maintain, in a nature of heavenly birth. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes; what else should it be? + +STRANGER: Only the Statesman and the good legislator, having the +inspiration of the royal muse, can implant this opinion, and he, only in +the rightly educated, whom we were just now describing. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Likely enough. + +STRANGER: But him who cannot, we will not designate by any of the names +which are the subject of the present enquiry. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very right. + +STRANGER: The courageous soul when attaining this truth becomes +civilized, and rendered more capable of partaking of justice; but when +not partaking, is inclined to brutality. Is not that true? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly. + +STRANGER: And again, the peaceful and orderly nature, if sharing in +these opinions, becomes temperate and wise, as far as this may be in a +State, but if not, deservedly obtains the ignominious name of silliness. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Quite true. + +STRANGER: Can we say that such a connexion as this will lastingly unite +the evil with one another or with the good, or that any science would +seriously think of using a bond of this kind to join such materials? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Impossible. + +STRANGER: But in those who were originally of a noble nature, and who +have been nurtured in noble ways, and in those only, may we not say +that union is implanted by law, and that this is the medicine which art +prescribes for them, and of all the bonds which unite the dissimilar and +contrary parts of virtue is not this, as I was saying, the divinest? + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true. + +STRANGER: Where this divine bond exists there is no difficulty in +imagining, or when you have imagined, in creating the other bonds, which +are human only. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How is that, and what bonds do you mean? + +STRANGER: Rights of intermarriage, and ties which are formed between +States by giving and taking children in marriage, or between individuals +by private betrothals and espousals. For most persons form marriage +connexions without due regard to what is best for the procreation of +children. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: In what way? + +STRANGER: They seek after wealth and power, which in matrimony are +objects not worthy even of a serious censure. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: There is no need to consider them at all. + +STRANGER: More reason is there to consider the practice of those who +make family their chief aim, and to indicate their error. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Quite true. + +STRANGER: They act on no true principle at all; they seek their ease and +receive with open arms those who are like themselves, and hate those who +are unlike them, being too much influenced by feelings of dislike. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How so? + +STRANGER: The quiet orderly class seek for natures like their own, and +as far as they can they marry and give in marriage exclusively in this +class, and the courageous do the same; they seek natures like their own, +whereas they should both do precisely the opposite. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How and why is that? + +STRANGER: Because courage, when untempered by the gentler nature during +many generations, may at first bloom and strengthen, but at last bursts +forth into downright madness. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Like enough. + +STRANGER: And then, again, the soul which is over-full of modesty and +has no element of courage in many successive generations, is apt to grow +too indolent, and at last to become utterly paralyzed and useless. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: That, again, is quite likely. + +STRANGER: It was of these bonds I said that there would be no difficulty +in creating them, if only both classes originally held the same opinion +about the honourable and good;--indeed, in this single work, the whole +process of royal weaving is comprised--never to allow temperate natures +to be separated from the brave, but to weave them together, like the +warp and the woof, by common sentiments and honours and reputation, and +by the giving of pledges to one another; and out of them forming one +smooth and even web, to entrust to them the offices of State. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: How do you mean? + +STRANGER: Where one officer only is needed, you must choose a ruler who +has both these qualities--when many, you must mingle some of each, for +the temperate ruler is very careful and just and safe, but is wanting in +thoroughness and go. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly, that is very true. + +STRANGER: The character of the courageous, on the other hand, falls +short of the former in justice and caution, but has the power of action +in a remarkable degree, and where either of these two qualities is +wanting, there cities cannot altogether prosper either in their public +or private life. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly they cannot. + +STRANGER: This then we declare to be the completion of the web of +political action, which is created by a direct intertexture of the brave +and temperate natures, whenever the royal science has drawn the two +minds into communion with one another by unanimity and friendship, and +having perfected the noblest and best of all the webs which political +life admits, and enfolding therein all other inhabitants of cities, +whether slaves or freemen, binds them in one fabric and governs and +presides over them, and, in so far as to be happy is vouchsafed to a +city, in no particular fails to secure their happiness. + +YOUNG SOCRATES: Your picture, Stranger, of the king and statesman, no +less than of the Sophist, is quite perfect. + + + + + +End of the Project Gutenberg EBook of Statesman, by Plato + +*** END OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK STATESMAN *** + +***** This file should be named 1738.txt or 1738.zip ***** +This and all associated files of various formats will be found in: + http://www.gutenberg.org/1/7/3/1738/ + +Produced by Sue Asscher + +Updated editions will replace the previous one--the old editions +will be renamed. + +Creating the works from public domain print editions means that no +one owns a United States copyright in these works, so the Foundation +(and you!) can copy and distribute it in the United States without +permission and without paying copyright royalties. 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