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diff --git a/16782.txt b/16782.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..6b8fab4 --- /dev/null +++ b/16782.txt @@ -0,0 +1,22396 @@ +The Project Gutenberg EBook of Memoir, Correspondence, And Miscellanies, +From The Papers Of Thomas Jefferson, by Thomas Jefferson + +This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere at no cost and with +almost no restrictions whatsoever. You may copy it, give it away or +re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License included +with this eBook or online at www.gutenberg.org + + +Title: Memoir, Correspondence, And Miscellanies, From The Papers Of Thomas Jefferson + +Author: Thomas Jefferson + +Editor: Thomas Jefferson Randolph + +Illustrator: Steel engraving by Longacre from painting of G. Stuart + +Release Date: September 30, 2005 [EBook #16782] + +Language: English + +Character set encoding: ASCII + +*** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK THE WRITINGS OF THOMAS JEFFERSON *** + + + + +Produced by David Widger + + + + + +[Illustration: Book Spines, 1829 set of Jefferson Papers] + +MEMOIR, CORRESPONDENCE, AND MISCELLANIES, FROM THE PAPERS OF THOMAS +JEFFERSON. + +Edited by Thomas Jefferson Randolph. + + +[Illustration: Steel engraving by Longacre from painting of G. Stuart] + +[Illustration: Titlepage of Volume Two (of four)] + + + +VOLUME TWO + + + + +LETTER I.--TO RICHARD HENRY LEE, April 22, 1786 + + +TO RICHARD HENRY LEE. + +London, April 22, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +In your letter of October the 29th, you desired me to send you one of +the new lamps. I tried at every probable place in Paris, and could not +get a tolerable one. I have been glad of it since I came here, as I find +them much better made here. I now deliver one, with this letter, into +the hands of Mr. Fulwar Skipwith, a merchant from Virginia, settled +here, who promises to send it to you, with one for Mr. C. Thomson. Of +this be pleased to accept, from me. It is now found, that they may be +used with almost any oil. + +I expect to leave this place in about three days. Our public letters, +joint and separate, will inform you what has been done, and what could +not be done here. With respect to a commercial treaty with this country, +be assured, that this government not only has it not in contemplation +at present to make any, but that they do not conceive that any +circumstances will arise, which shall render it expedient for them to +have any political connection with us. They think we shall be glad of +their commerce on their own terms. There is no party in our favor here, +either in power or out of power. Even the opposition concur with the +ministry and the nation in this. I can scarcely consider as a party, the +Marquis of Lansdowne, and a half dozen characters about him, such as Dr. +Price, &c. who are impressed with the utility of a friendly connection +with us. The former does not venture this sentiment in parliament, and +the latter are not in situations to be heard. The Marquis of Lansdowne +spoke to me affectionately of your brother, Doctor Lee, and desired his +respects to him, which I beg leave to communicate through you. Were +he to come into the ministry (of which there is not the most distant +prospect), he must adopt the King's system, or go out again, as he did +before, for daring to depart from it. When we see, that through all the +changes of ministry, which have taken place during the present reign, +there has never been a change of system with respect to America, we +cannot reasonably doubt, that this is the system of the King himself. +His obstinacy of character we know; his hostility we have known, and +it is embittered by ill success. If ever this nation, during his life, +enter into arrangements with us, it must be in consequence of events, +of which they do not at present see a possibility. The object of the +present ministry is to buoy up the nation with flattering calculations +of their present prosperity, and to make them believe they are better +without us than with us. This they seriously believe; for what is it +men cannot be made to believe? I dined the other day in a company of the +ministerial party. A General Clark, a Scotchman and ministerialist, sat +next to me. He introduced the subject of American affairs, and in +the course of the conversation told me, that were America to petition +parliament to be again received on their former footing, the petition +would be very generally rejected. He was serious in this, and I think +it was the sentiment of the company, and is the sentiment perhaps of the +nation. In this they are wise, but for a foolish reason. They think they +lost more by suffering us to participate of their commercial privileges, +at home and abroad, than they lose by our political severance. The true +reason, however, why such an application should be rejected, is, that in +a very short time we should oblige them to add another hundred millions +to their debt, in unsuccessful attempts to retain the subjection offered +to them. They are at present in a frenzy, and will not be recovered from +it, till they shall have leaped the precipice they are now so boldly +advancing to. Writing from England, I write you nothing but English +news. The continent, at present, furnishes nothing interesting. I shall +hope the favor of your letters, at times. The proceedings and views of +Congress and of the Assemblies, the opinions and dispositions of +our people in general, which, in governments like ours, must be the +foundation of measures, will always be interesting to me, as will +whatever respects your own health and happiness; being with great +esteem, + +Dear Sir, your most obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson + + + + +LETTER II.--TO CHARLES THOMSON, April 22, 1786 + + +TO CHARLES THOMSON. + +London, April 22, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +In one of your former letters, you expressed a wish to have one of the +newly invented lamps. I find them made here much better than at Paris, +and take the liberty of asking your acceptance of one, which will +accompany this letter. It is now found, that any tolerable oil may be +used in them. The spermaceti oil is best, of the cheap kinds. + +I could write you volumes on the improvements which I find made, and +making here, in the arts. One deserves particular notice, because it +is simple, great, and likely to have extensive consequences. It is +the application of steam, as an agent for working grist-mills. I have +visited the one lately made here. It was at that time turning eight pair +of stones. It consumes one hundred bushels of coal a day. It is proposed +to put up thirty pair of stones. I do not know whether the quantity +of fuel is to be increased. I hear you are applying the same agent in +America to navigate boats, and I have little doubt, but that it will +be applied generally to machines, so as to supersede the use of water +ponds, and of course to lay open all the streams for navigation. We +know, that steam is one of the most powerful engines we can employ; +and in America fuel is abundant. I find no new publication here worth +sending to you. I shall set out for Paris within three or four days. Our +public letters will inform you of our public proceedings here. + +I am, with sincere esteem, Dear Sir, + +your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER III.--TO JOHN JAY, April 23, 1786 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +London, April 23, 1786. + +Sir, + +In my letter of March the 12th, I had the honor of explaining to you +the motives which had brought me to this place. A joint letter from Mr. +Adams and myself, sent by the last packet, informed you of the result +of our conferences with the Tripoline minister. The conferences with +the minister of Portugal have, been drawn to a greater length than I +expected. However, every thing is now agreed, and the treaty will be +ready for signature the day after to-morrow. I shall set out for Paris +the same day. With this country nothing is done: and that nothing is +intended to be done, on their part, admits not the smallest doubt. The +nation is against any change of measures: the ministers are against it; +some from principle, others from subserviency: and the King, more than +all men, is against it. If we take a retrospect to the beginning of the +present reign, we observe, that amidst all the changes of ministry, no +change of measures with respect to America ever took place; excepting +only at the moment of the peace; and the minister of that moment was +immediately removed. Judging of the future by the past, I do not expect +a change of disposition during the present reign, which bids fair to +be a long one, as the King is healthy and temperate. That he is +persevering, we know. If he ever changes his plan, it will be in +consequence of events, which, at present, neither himself nor his +ministers place among those which are probable. Even the opposition dare +not open their lips in favor of a connection with us, so unpopular would +be the topic. It is not, that they think our commerce unimportant to +them. I find that the merchants here set sufficient value on it. But +they are sure of keeping it on their own terms. No better proof can be +shown of the security in which the ministers think themselves on this +head, than that they have not thought it worth while to give us a +conference on the subject, though, on my arrival, we exhibited to them +our commission, observed to them that it would expire on the 12th of +the next month, and that I had come over on purpose to see if any +arrangements could be made before that time. Of two months which then +remained, six weeks have elapsed without one scrip of a pen, or one word +from a minister, except a vague proposition at an accidental meeting. +We availed ourselves even of that, to make another essay to extort some +sort of declaration from the court. But their silence is invincible. +But of all this, as well as of the proceedings in the negotiation with +Portugal, information will be given you by a joint letter from Mr. Adams +and myself. The moment is certainly arrived, when, the plan of this +court being out of all doubt, Congress and the States may decide what +their own measures should be. + +The Marquis of Lansdowne spoke of you in very friendly terms, and +desired me to present his respects to you, in the first letter I should +write. He is thoroughly sensible of the folly of the present measures +of this country, as are a few other characters about him. Dr. Price is +among these, and is particularly disturbed at the present prospect. He +acknowledges, however, that all change is desperate: which weighs the +more, as he is intimate with Mr. Pitt. This small band of friends, +favorable as it is, does not pretend to say one word in public on our +subject. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the highest esteem and +respect, + +Sir, your most obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER IV.--TO JOHN JAY, April 23, 1786 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +London, April 23, 1786. + +Sir, + +In another letter of this day, I stated to you what had passed with +public characters since my arrival here. Conversations with private +individuals, I thought it best not to mingle with the contents of that +letter. Yet, as some have taken place, which relate to matters within +our instructions, and with persons whose opinions deserve to have some +weight, I will take the liberty of stating them. In a conversation with +an ancient and respectable merchant of this place, such a view of the +true state of the commercial connections of America and Great Britain +was presented to him, as induced him to acknowledge they had been +mistaken in their opinions, and to ask, that Mr. Adams and myself would +permit the chairman of the committee of American merchants to call on +us. He observed, that the same person happened to be also chairman of +the committee of the whole body of British merchants; and that such was +the respect paid to his person and office, that we might consider what +came from him, as coming from the committees themselves. He called on +us at an appointed hour. He was a Mr. Duncan Campbell, formerly much +concerned in the American trade. We entered on the subject of the +non-execution of the late treaty of peace, alleged on both sides. +We observed, that the refusal to deliver the western posts, and the +withdrawing American property, contrary to express stipulation, having +preceded what they considered as breaches on our part, were to be +considered as the causes of our proceedings. The obstructions thrown +by our legislatures in the way of the recovery of their debts, were +insisted on by him. We observed to him, that the great amount of the +debt from America to Great Britain, and the little circulating coin in +the formeer country, rendered an immediate payment impossible; that time +was necessary; that we had been authorized to enter into explanatory +arrangements on this subject; that we had made overtures for the +purpose, which had not been attended to, and that the States had, +therefore, been obliged to modify the article for themselves. He +acknowledged the impossibility of immediate payment, the propriety of +an explanatory convention, and said, that they were disposed to allow +a reasonable time. We mentioned the term of five years, including the +present; but that judgments might be allowed immediately, only dividing +the execution into equal and annual parts, so that the last should be +levied by the close of the year 1790. This seemed to be quite agreeable +to him, and to be as short a term as would be insisted on by them. +Proceeding to the sum to be demanded, we agreed that the principal, with +the interest incurring before and after the war, should be paid; but +as to that incurring during the war, we differed from him. He urged its +justice with respect to themselves, who had laid out of the use of their +money during that period. This was his only topic. We opposed to it all +those which circumstances, both public and private, gave rise to. +He appeared to feel their weight, but said the renunciation of this +interest was a bitter pill, and such a one as the merchants here could +not swallow. He wished, that no declaration should be made as to +this article: but we observed, that if we entered into explanatory +declarations of the points unfavorable to us, we should expect, as a +consideration for this, corresponding declarations on the parts in +our favor. In fact, we supposed his view was to leave this part of the +interest to stand on the general expressions of the treaty, that +they might avail themselves, in individual cases, of the favorable +dispositions of debtors or of juries. We proceeded to the necessity of +arrangements of our future commerce, were it only as a means of +enabling our country to pay its debts. We suggested, that they had been +contracted while certain modes of remittance had existed here, which +had been an inducement to us to contract these debts. He said he was not +authorized to speak on the subject of the future commerce. He appeared +really and feelingly anxious, that arrangements should be stipulated as +to the payment of the old debts, said he would proceed in that moment to +Lord Caermarthen's, and discuss the subject with him, and that we might +expect to hear from him. He took leave, and we have never since heard +from him or any other person on the subject. Congress will judge how far +these conversations should influence their future proceedings, or those +of the States. + +I have the honor to be, with the highest respect and esteem, Sir, your +most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER V.--TO JAMES MADISON, April 25, 1786 + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +London, April 25, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +Some of the objects of the joint commission, with which we were honored +by Congress, called me to this place about six weeks ago. To-morrow I +set out on my return to Paris. With this nation nothing is done; and it +is now decided, that they intend to do nothing with us. + +***** + +I wrote you, in a former letter, on the subject of a Mr. Paradise, +who owns an estate in Virginia in right of his wife, and who has a +considerable sum due to him in our loan office. Since I came here, I +have had opportunities of knowing his extreme personal worth, and his +losses by the late war. He is, from principle, a pure republican, while +his father was as warm a tory. His attachment to the American cause, +and his candid warmth, brought him sometimes into altercations on the +subject with his father, and some persons interested in their variance, +artfully brought up this subject of conversation whenever they met. It +produced a neglect in the father. He had already settled on him a sum of +money in the funds: but would do no more, and probably would have undone +that, if he could. When remittances from Virginia were forbidden, +the profits of the Virginia estate were carried into our loan office. +Paradise was then obliged to begin to eat his capital in England: from +that, to part with conveniences, and to run in debt. His situation is +now distressing; and would be completely relieved, could he receive what +is due to him from our State. He is coming over to settle there. His +wife and family will follow him. I never ask unjust preferences for any +body. But if, by any just means, he can be helped to his money, I own +I should be much gratified. The goodness of his heart, his kindness to +Americans before, during, and since the war, the purity of his political +and moral character, interest me in the events impending over him, and +which will infallibly be ruinous, if he fails to receive his money. I +ask of you, on his behalf, that in pursuing the path of right, you will +become active for him, instead of being merely quiescent, as you might +be, were his merit and his misfortunes unknown to you. + +I have put into the hands of Mr. Fulwar Skipwith for you, a packet +containing some catalogues, which he will forward. I am, with very +sincere esteem, Dear Sir, + +your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER VI.--TO THE COUNT DE VERGENNES, May 3, 1786 + + +TO THE COUNT DE VERGENNES. + +Paris, May 3, 1786. + +Sir, + +After begging leave to present my respects to your Excellency, on my +return to this place, I take the liberty of offering to your attention +some papers, which I found on my arrival here, written by sundry +merchants of L'Orient and others, some of whom are citizens of the +United States, and all of them concerned in the trade between the two +countries. This has been carried on by an exchange of the manufactures +and produce of this country, for the produce of that, and principally +for tobacco, which, though, on its arrival here, confined to a single +purchaser, has been received equally from all sellers. In confidence +of a continuance of this practice, the merchants of both countries were +carrying on their commerce of exchange. A late contract by the Farm has, +in a great measure, fixed in a single mercantile house the supplies of +tobacco wanted for this country. This arrangement found the established +merchants with some tobacco on hand, some on the seas coming to them, +and more still due. By the papers now enclosed, it seems, that there +are six thousand four hundred and eight hogsheads in the single port of +L'Orient. Whether government may interfere, as to articles furnished by +the merchants after they had notice of the contract before mentioned, +must depend on principles of policy. But those of justice seem to urge, +that, for commodities furnished before such notice, they should be so +far protected, as that they may wind up, without loss, the transactions +in which the new arrangement found them actually engaged. Your +Excellency is the best judge, how far it may be consistent with the +rules of government, to interfere for their relief, and with you, +therefore, I beg leave entirely to rest their interests. + +Information lately received, relative to the Barbary States, has +suggested, that it might be expedient, and perhaps necessary for us, to +pave the way to arrangements with them, by a previous application to the +Ottoman Porte. Your Excellency's intimate acquaintance with this subject +would render your advice to us equally valuable and desirable. If you +would be pleased to permit me to wait on you, any day or hour which +shall be most convenient to yourself, I should be much gratified by a +little conversation with you on this subject. + +I have the honor to be, with great respect, your Excellency's most +obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER VII.--TO JOHN PAGE, May 4, 1786 + + +TO JOHN PAGE. + +Paris, May 4, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +Your two favors of March the 15th and August the 23, 1785, by Monsieur +de la Croix, came to hand on the 15th of November. His return gives me +an opportunity of sending you a copy of the Nautical Almanacs for 1786, +7, 8, 9. There is no late and interesting publication here, or I would +send it by the same conveyance. With these almanacs, I pack a copy of +some Notes I wrote for Monsieur de Marbois, in the year 1781, of which I +had a few printed here. They were written in haste, and for his private +inspection. A few friends having asked copies, I found it cheaper to +print than to write them. They will offer nothing new to you, not even +as an oblation of my friendship for you, which is as old almost as we +are ourselves. Mazzei brought me your favor of April the 27th. I thank +you much for your communications. Nothing can be more grateful at such +a distance. It is unfortunate, that most people think the occurrences +passing daily under their eyes, are either known to all the world, or +not worth being known. They therefore do not give them place in their +letters. I hope you will be so good as to continue your friendly +information. The proceedings of our public bodies, the progress of the +public mind on interesting questions, the casualties which happen among +our private friends, and whatever is interesting to yourself and family, +will always be anxiously received by me. There is one circumstance in +the work you were concerned in, which has not yet come to my knowledge; +to wit, How far westward from Fort Pitt, does the western boundary of +Pennsylvania pass, and where does it strike the Ohio? The proposition +you mention from Mr. Anderson, on the purchase of tobacco, I would have +made use of, but that I have engaged the abuses of the tobacco trade on +a more general scale. I confess their redress is by no means certain; +but till I see all hope of removing the evil by the roots desperate, I +cannot propose to prune its branches. + +I returned but three or four days ago, from a two months' trip to +England. I traversed that country much, and own, both town and country +fell short of my expectations. Comparing it with this, I found a much +greater proportion of barrens, a soil, in other parts, not naturally so +good as this, not better cultivated, but better manured, and therefore +more productive. This proceeds from the practice of long leases there, +and short ones here. The laboring people here, are poorer than in +England. They pay about one half their produce in rent; the English, in +general, about a third. The gardening, in that country, is the article +in which it surpasses all the earth. I mean their pleasure gardening. +This, indeed, went far beyond my ideas. The city of London, though +handsomer than Paris, is not so handsome as Philadelphia. Their +architecture is in the most wretched style I ever saw, not meaning to +except America, where it is bad, nor even Virginia, where it is worse +than in any other part of America which I have seen. The mechanical arts +in London are carried to a wonderful perfection. But of these I need +not speak, because, of them my countrymen have unfortunately too many +samples before their eyes. I consider the extravagance which has seized +them, as a more baneful evil than toryism was during the war. It is the +more so, as the example is set by the best and most amiable characters +among us. Would a missionary appear, who would make frugality the basis +of his religious system, and go through the land, preaching it up as the +only road to salvation, I would join his school, though not generally +disposed to seek my religion out of the dictates of my own reason, and +feelings of my own heart. These things have been more deeply impressed +on my mind, by what I have heard and seen in England. That nation hate +us, their ministers hate us, and their King, more than all other men. +They have the impudence to avow this, though they acknowledge our trade +important to them. But they think, we cannot prevent our countrymen from +bringing that into their laps. A conviction of this determines them +to make no terms of commerce with us. They say, they will pocket +our carrying trade as well as their own. Our overtures of commercial +arrangements have been treated with a derision, which shows their firm +persuasion, that we shall never unite to suppress their commerce, or +even to impede it. I think their hostility towards us is much more +deeply rooted at present, than during the war. In the arts, the most +striking thing I saw there, new, was the application of the principle +of the steam-engine to grist-mills. I saw eight pair of stones which +are worked by steam, and there are to be set up thirty pair in the same +house. A hundred bushels of coal, a day, are consumed at present. I do +not know in what proportion the consumption will be increased by the +additional gear. + +Be so good as to present my respects to Mrs. Page and your family, to W. +Lewis, F. Willis, and their families, and to accept yourself assurances +of the sincere regard, with which I am, Dear Sir, your affectionate +friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER VIII.--TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL + + +TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL. + +Paris, May 5, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +A visit of two months to England has been the cause of your not hearing +from me during that period. Your letters of February the 3rd, to Mr. +Adams and myself, and of February the 4th, to me, had come to hand +before my departure. While I was in London, Mr. Adams received the +letters giving information of Mr. Lambe's arrival at Algiers. In London, +we had conferences with a Tripoline ambassador, now at that court, named +Abdrahaman. He asked us thirty thousand guineas for a peace with his +court, and as much for Tunis, for which he said he could answer. What we +were authorized to offer, being to this, but as a drop to a bucket, +our conferences were repeated, only for the purpose of obtaining +information. If the demands of Algiers and Morocco should be +proportioned to this, according to their superior power, it is easy to +foresee that the United States will not buy a peace with money. What +principally led me to England was, the information that the Chevalier +del Pinto, Portuguese minister at that court, had received full powers +to treat with us. I accordingly went there, and, in the course of six +weeks, we arranged a commercial treaty between our two countries. His +powers were only to negotiate, not to sign. And as I could not wait, Mr. +Adams and myself signed, and the Chevalier del Pinto expected daily the +arrival of powers to do the same. The footing on which each has placed +the other, is that of the most favored nation. We wished much to have +had some privileges in their American possessions: but this was not +to be effected. The right to import flour into Portugal, though not +conceded by the treaty, we are not without hopes of obtaining. + +My journey furnished us occasion to renew our overtures to the court +of London; which it was the more important to do, as our powers to that +court were to expire on the 12th of this month. These overtures were not +attended to, and our commission expiring, we made our final report to +Congress; and I suppose this the last offer of friendship, which will +ever be made on our part. The treaty of peace being unexecuted on either +part, in important points, each will now take their own measures for +obtaining execution. I think the King, ministers, and nation are more +bitterly hostile to us at present, than at any period of the late war. +A like disposition on our part, has been rising for some time. In what +events these things will end, we cannot foresee. Our countrymen are +eager in their passions and enterprise, and not disposed to calculate +their interests against these. Our enemies (for such they are, in fact) +have for twelve years past, followed but one uniform rule, that of doing +exactly the contrary of what reason points out. Having early, during our +contest, observed this in the British conduct, I governed myself by it, +in all prognostications of their measures; and I can say, with truth, it +never failed me but in the circumstance of their making peace with us. I +have no letters from America of later date than the new year. Mr. Adams +had, to the beginning of February. I am in hopes our letters will give a +new spur to the proposition, for investing Congress with the regulation +of our commerce. + +This will be handed you by a Baron Waltersdorf, a Danish gentleman, +whom, if you did not already know, I should take the liberty of +recommending to you. You were so kind as to write me, that you would +forward me a particular map, which has not come to hand. + +I beg you to be assured of the respect and esteem, with which I have the +honor to be, Dear Sir, + +your most obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER IX.--TO MR. DUMAS, May 6, 1789 + + +TO MR. DUMAS. + +Paris, May 6, 1789. + +Sir, + +Having been absent in England, for some time past, your favors of +February the 27th, March the 28th, and April the 11th, have not been +acknowledged so soon as they should have been. I am obliged to you, for +assisting to make me known to the Rhingrave de Salm and the Marquis de +la Coste, whose reputations render an acquaintance with them desirable. +I have not yet seen either: but expect that honor from the Rhingrave +very soon. Your letters to Mr. Jay and Mr. Van Berkel, received in my +absence, will be forwarded by a gentleman who leaves this place for New +York, within a few days. I sent the treaty with Prussia by a gentleman +who sailed from Havre, the 11th of November. The arrival of that vessel +in America is not yet known here. Though the time is not long enough to +produce despair, it is sufficiently so to give inquietude lest it should +be lost. This would be a cause of much concern to me: I beg the favor +of you to mention this circumstance to the Baron de Thulemeyer, as an +apology for his not hearing from us. The last advices from America bring +us nothing interesting. A principal object of my journey to London was, +to enter into commercial arrangements with Portugal. This has been done +almost in the precise terms of those of Prussia. The English are still +our enemies. The spirit existing there, and rising in America, has +a very lowering aspect. To what events it may give birth, I cannot +foresee. We are young, and can survive them; but their rotten machine +must crush under the trial. The animosities of sovereigns are temporary, +and may be allayed: but those which seize the whole body of a people, +and of a people, too, who dictate their own measures, produce calamities +of long duration. I shall not wonder to see the scenes of ancient Rome +and Carthage renewed in our day; and if not pursued to the same issue, +it may be, because the republic of modern powers will not permit the +extinction of any one of its members. Peace and friendship with all +mankind is our wisest policy: and I wish we may be permitted to pursue +it. But the temper and folly of our enemies may not leave this in our +choice. I am happy in our prospect of friendship with the most estimable +powers of Europe, and particularly with those of the confederacy, of +which yours is. That your present crisis may have a happy issue, is the +prayer and wish of him, who has the honor to be, with great respect and +esteem, Sir, your most obedient humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER X.--TO WILLIAM DRAYTON, May 6, 1786 + + +TO WILLIAM DRAYTON. + +Paris, May 6, 1786. + +Sir, + +Your favor of November the 23rd came duly to hand. A call to England, +soon after its receipt, has prevented my acknowledging it so soon as I +should have done. I am very sensible of the honor done me by the South +Carolina society for promoting and improving agriculture and other rural +concerns, when they were pleased to elect me to be of their body: and +I beg leave, through you, Sir, to convey to them my grateful thanks +for this favor. They will find in me, indeed, but a very unprofitable +servant. At present, particularly, my situation is unfavorable to the +desire I feel, of promoting their views. However, I shall certainly +avail myself of every occasion, which shall occur of doing so. Perhaps +I may render some service, by forwarding to the society such new objects +of culture, as may be likely to succeed in the soil and climate of +South Carolina. In an infant country, as ours is, these experiments are +important. We are probably far from possessing, as yet, all the articles +of culture for which nature has fitted our country. To find out +these, will require abundance of unsuccessful experiments. But if in +a multitude of these, we make one useful acquisition, it repays our +trouble. Perhaps it is the peculiar duty of associated bodies, to +undertake these experiments. Under this sense of the views of the +society, and with so little opportunity of being otherwise useful to +them, I shall be attentive to procure for them the seeds of such plants, +as they will be so good as to point out to me, or as shall occur to +myself as worthy their notice. I send at present, by Mr. McQueen, some +seeds of a grass, found very useful in the southern parts of Europe, and +particularly, and almost solely, cultivated in Malta. It is called +by the names of Sulla, and Spanish St. Foin, and is the _Hedysarum +coronarium_ of Linnaeus. It is usually sown early in autumn. I shall +receive a supply of fresher seed this fall, which I will also do myself +the honor of forwarding to you. I expect, in the same season, from the +south of France, some acorns of the cork oak, which I propose for your +society, as I am persuaded they will succeed with you. I observed it +to grow in England, without shelter; not well indeed; but so as to give +hopes that it would do well with you. I shall consider myself as always +honored by the commands of the society, whenever they shall find it +convenient to make use of me, and beg you to be assured, personally, of +the sentiments of respect and esteem, with which I have the honor to be, +Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XI.--TO W. T. FRANKLIN, May 7, 1786 + + +TO W. T. FRANKLIN. + +Paris, May 7, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +On my return from a two months' visit to England, I found here your favor +of January the 18th. This contains the latest intelligence I have from +America. Your effects not being then arrived, gives me anxiety for them, +as I think they went in a vessel, which sailed from Havre the 11th of +November. In this vessel, went also the two Mr. Fitzhughs of Virginia, +with the Prussian treaty, our papers relative to the Barbary States, +with the despatches for Congress, and letters which I had been writing +to other persons in America for six weeks preceding their departure. I +am obliged to you for the information as to Dr. Franklin's health, in +which I feel a great interest. I concur in opinion with you, that in the +present factious division of your State, an angel from heaven could do +no good. I have been sorry, therefore, from the beginning, to see such +time as Dr. Franklin's wasted on so hopeless a business. You have formed +a just opinion of Monroe. He is a man whose soul might be turned wrong +side outwards, without discovering a blemish to the world. I wish with +all my heart, Congress may call you into the diplomatic line, as that +seems to have attracted your own desires. It is not one in which you +can do any thing more, than pass the present hour agreeably, without any +prospect to future provision. Perhaps the arrangements with Portugal, +by adding to the number of those appointments, may give Congress +an opportunity of doing justice to your own, and to Dr. Franklin's +services. If my wishes could aid you, you have them sincerely. My late +return to this place scarcely enables me to give you any of its news. +I have not yet called on M. La Veillard, or seen any of your +acquaintances. The marriage of the ambassador of Sweden with Miss +Necker, you have heard of. Houdon is about taking a wife also. His bust +of the General has arrived, and meets the approbation of those who know +the original. Europe enjoys a perfect calm, at present. Perhaps it may +be disturbed by the death of the King of Prussia, which is constantly +expected. As yet, we have no information from the Barbary States, which +may enable us to prognosticate the success of our endeavors to effect a +peace in that quarter. Present me respectfully and affectionately to +Dr. Franklin, and accept assurances of the esteem, with which I am, Dear +Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XII.--TO ELBRIDGE GERRY, May 7, 1786 + + +TO ELBRIDGE GERRY. + +Paris, May 7, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +My last to you was of the 11th of October. Soon after that, your favor +of the 12th of September came to hand. My acknowledgment of this is made +later than it should have been, by my trip to England. Your long silence +I ascribe to a more pleasing cause, that of devoting your spare time to +one more capable of filling it with happiness, and to whom, as well as +to yourself, I wish all those precious blessings which this change of +condition is calculated to give you. + +My public letters to Mr. Jay will have apprized you of my journey to +England, and of its motives; and the joint letters of Mr. Adams +and myself, of its effects. With respect to Portugal, it produced +arrangements; with respect to England and Barbary, only information. +I am quite at a loss what you will do with England. To leave her in +possession of our posts, seems inadmissible; and yet to take them, +brings on a state of things, for which we seem not to be in readiness. +Perhaps a total suppression of her trade, or an exclusion of her vessels +from the carriage of our produce, may have some effect; but I believe +not very great. Their passions are too deeply and too universally +engaged in opposition to us. The ministry have found means to persuade +the nation, that they are richer than they were while we participated of +their commercial privileges. We should try to turn our trade into other +channels. I am in hopes this country will endeavor to give it more +encouragement. But what will you do with the piratical States? Buy a +peace at their enormous price; force one; or abandon the carriage into +the Mediterranean to other powers? All these measures are disagreeable. +The decision rests with you. The Emperor is now pressing a treaty with +us. In a commercial view, I doubt whether it is desirable: but in a +political one, I believe it is. He is now undoubtedly the second power +in Europe, and on the death of the King of Prussia, he becomes the first +character. An alliance with him will give us respectability in Europe, +which we have occasion for. Besides, he will be at the head of the +second grand confederacy of Europe, and may at any time serve us with +the powers constituting that. I am pressed on so many hands to recommend +Dumas to the patronage of Congress, that I cannot avoid it. Every body +speaks well of him, and his zeal in our cause. Any thing done for him +will gratify this court, and the patriotic party in Holland, as well as +some distinguished individuals. I am induced, from my own feelings, to +recommend Colonel Humphreys to your care. He is sensible, prudent, and +honest, and may be very firmly relied on, in any office which requires +these talents. I pray you to accept assurance of the sincere esteem and +respect, with which I am, + +Dear Sir, your most obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XIII.--TO JAMES ROSS, May 8, 1786 + + +TO JAMES ROSS. + +Paris, May 8, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +I have duly received your favor of October the 22nd, and am much +gratified by the communications therein made. It has given me details, +which do not enter into the views of my ordinary correspondents, and +which are very entertaining. I experience great satisfaction at seeing +my country proceed to facilitate the intercommunications of its several +parts, by opening rivers, canals, and roads. How much more rational is +this disposal of public money, than that of waging war. + +Before the receipt of your letter, Morris's contract for sixty thousand +hogsheads of tobacco was concluded with the Farmers General. I have been +for some time occupied in endeavoring to destroy the root of the evils, +which the tobacco trade encounters in this country, by making the +ministers sensible, that merchants will not bring a commodity to a +market, where but one person is allowed to buy it; and that so long as +that single purchaser is obliged to go to foreign markets for it, he +must pay for it in coin, and not in commodities. These truths have made +their way to the minds of the ministry, insomuch, as to have delayed +the execution of the new lease of the Farms, six months. It is +renewed, however, for three years, but so as not to render impossible a +reformation of this great evil. They are sensible of the evil, but it is +so interwoven with their fiscal system, that they find it hazardous to +disentangle. The temporary distress, too, of the revenue, they are +not prepared to meet. My hopes, therefore, are weak, though not quite +desperate. When they become so, it will remain to look about for the +best palliative this monopoly can bear. My present idea is, that it will +be found in a prohibition to the Farmers General, to purchase tobacco +any where but in France. You will perceive by this, that my object is to +strengthen the connection between this country and my own in all +useful points. I am of opinion, that twenty-three thousand hogsheads +of tobacco, the annual consumption of this country, do not exceed the +amount of those commodities, which it is more advantageous to us to buy +here than in England, or elsewhere; and such a commerce would powerfully +reinforce the motives for a friendship from this country towards ours. +This friendship we ought to cultivate closely, considering the present +dispositions of England towards us. + +I am lately returned from a visit to that country. The spirit of +hostility to us has always existed in the mind of the King, but it +has now extended itself through the whole mass of the people, and the +majority in the public councils. In a country, where the voice of the +people influences so much the measures of administration, and where it +coincides with the private temper of the King, there is no pronouncing +on future events. It is true, they have nothing to gain, and much to +lose, by a war with us. But interest is not the strongest passion in the +human breast. There are difficult points, too, still unsettled between +us. They have not withdrawn their armies out of our country, nor given +satisfaction for the property they brought off. On our part, we have not +paid our debts, and it will take time to pay them. In conferences with +some distinguished mercantile characters, I found them sensible of the +impossibility of our paying these debts at once, and that an endeavor +to force universal and immediate payment, would render debts desperate, +which are good in themselves. I think we should not have differed in the +term necessary. We differed essentially in the article of interest. For +while the principal, and interest preceding and subsequent to the war, +seem justly due from us, that which accrued during the war does not. +Interest is a compensation for the use of money. Their money, in our +hands, was in the form of lands and negroes. Tobacco, the produce of +these lands and negroes (or, as I may call it, the interest for them), +being almost impossible of conveyance to the markets of consumption, +because taken by themselves in its way there, sold during the war at +five or six shillings the hundred. This did not pay taxes, and for +tools, and other plantation charges. A man who should have attempted to +remit to his creditor tobacco, for either principal or interest, must +have remitted it three times before one cargo would have arrived safe: +and this from the depredations of their own nation, and often of the +creditor himself; for some of the merchants entered deeply into the +privateering business. The individuals who did not, say they have lost +this interest: the debtor replies, that he has not gained it, and that +it is a case where, a loss having been incurred, every one tries to +shift it from himself. The known bias of the human mind from motives of +interest should lessen the confidence of each party in the justice of +their reasoning: but it is difficult to say, which of them should +make the sacrifice, both of reason and interest. Our conferences were +intended as preparatory to some arrangement. It is uncertain how far +we should have been able to accommodate our opinions. But the absolute +aversion of the government to enter into any arrangement prevented the +object from being pursued. Each country is left to do justice to itself +and to the other, according to its own ideas as to what is past; and to +scramble for the future as well as they can: to regulate their commerce +by duties and prohibitions, and perhaps by cannons and mortars; in which +event, we must abandon the ocean, where we are weak, leaving to neutral +nations the carriage of our commodities; and measure with them on land, +where they alone can lose. Farewell, then, all our useful improvements +of canals and roads, reformations of laws, and other rational +employments. I really doubt, whether there is temper enough, on either +side, to prevent this issue of our present hatred. Europe is, at this +moment, without the appearance of a cloud. The death of the King of +Prussia, daily expected, may raise one. My paper admonishes me, that, +after asking a continuance of your favors, it is time for me to conclude +with assurances of the esteem with which I am, + +Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XIV.--TO T. PLEASANTS, May 8,1786 + + +TO T. PLEASANTS. + +Paris, May 8,1786. + +Dear Sir, + +At the time of the receipt of your favor of October the 24th, the +contract between the Farmers General and Mr. Morris, for tobacco, was +concluded, and in a course of execution. There was no room, therefore, +to offer the proposals which accompanied your letter. I was, moreover, +engaged in endeavors to have the monopoly, in the purchase of this +article, in this country, suppressed. My hopes on that subject are not +desperate, but neither are they flattering. I consider it as the most +effectual means of procuring the full value of our produce, of diverting +our demands for manufactures from Great Britain to this country, to a +certain amount, and of thus producing some equilibrium in our commerce, +which at present lies all in the British scale. It would cement an union +with our friends, and lessen the torrent of wealth which we are pouring +into the laps of our enemies. For my part, I think that the trade with +Great Britain is a ruinous one to ourselves; and that nothing would +be an inducement to tolerate it, but a free commerce with their West +Indies: and that this being denied to us, we should put a stop to +the losing branch. The question is, whether they are right in their +prognostications, that we have neither resolution nor union enough for +this. Every thing I hear from my own country, fills me with despair as +to their recovery from their vassalage to Great Britain. Fashion +and folly are plunging them deeper and deeper into distress: and the +legislators of the country becoming debtors also, there seems no hope +of applying the only possible remedy, that of an immediate judgment and +execution. We should try, whether the prodigal might not be restrained +from taking on credit the gewgaw held out to him in one hand, by seeing +the keys of a prison in the other. Be pleased to present my respects to +Mrs. Pleasants, and to be assured of the esteem with which I am, + +Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XV.--TO COLONEL MONROE, May 10,1786 + + +TO COLONEL MONROE. + +Paris, May 10,1786. + +Dear Sir, + +My last to you was of January the 27th. Since that, I have received +yours of January the 19th. Information from other quarters gives me +reason to suspect you have in negotiation a very important change in +your situation. You will carry into its execution all my wishes for your +happiness. I hope it will not detach you from a settlement in your +own country. I had even entertained hopes of your settling in my +neighborhood: but these were determined by your desiring a plan of a +house for Richmond. However reluctantly I relinquish this prospect, I +shall not the less readily obey your commands, by sending you a plan. +Having been much engaged since my return from England, in answering the +letters and despatching other business which had accumulated during my +absence, and being still much engaged, perhaps I may not be able to send +the plan by this conveyance. If I do not send it now, I will surely by +the next conveyance after this. Your _Encyclopedie_, containing eighteen +_livraisons_, went off last night for Havre, from whence it will go in +a vessel bound to New York. It will be under the care of M. la Croix, +a passenger, who, if he does not find you in New York, will carry it to +Virginia, and send it to Richmond. Another copy, in a separate box, +goes for Currie. I pay here all charges to New York. What may occur +afterwards, I desire him to ask either of you or Currie, as either will +pay for the other; or to draw on me for them. + +My letters to Mr. Jay will have informed you of the objects which +carried me to England: and that the principal one, the treaty with +Portugal, has been accomplished. Though we were unable to procure any +special advantages in that, yet we thought it of consequence to insure +our trade against those particular checks and discouragements, which it +has heretofore met with there. The information as to the Barbary States, +which we obtained from Abdrahaman the Tripoline ambassador, was also +given to Mr. Jay. If it be right, and the scale of proportion between +those nations, which we had settled, be also right, eight times the sum +required by Tripoli will be necessary to accomplish a peace with the +whole; that is to say, about two hundred and forty thousand guineas. +The continuance of this peace will depend on their idea of our power to +enforce it, and on the life of the particular Dey, or other head of the +government, with whom it is contracted. Congress will, no doubt, +weigh these circumstances against the expense and probable success of +compelling a peace by arms. Count d'Estaing having communicated to me +verbally some information as to an experiment formerly made by this +country, I shall get him to put it into writing, and I will forward it +to Congress, as it may aid them in their choice of measures. However, +which plan is most eligible can only be known to yourselves, who are on +the spot, and have under your view all the difficulties of both. There +is a third measure, that of abandoning the Mediterranean carriage to +other nations. + +With respect to England, no arrangements can be taken. The merchants +were certainly disposed to have consented to accommodation, as to the +article of debts. I was not certain, when I left England, that they +would relinquish the interest during the war. A letter received since, +from the first character among the American merchants in Scotland, +satisfies me they would have relinquished it, to insure the capital and +residue of interest. Would to heaven, all the States, therefore, would +settle a uniform plan. To open the courts to them, so that they might +obtain judgments; to divide the executions into so many equal annual +instalments, as that the last might be paid in the year 1790; to have +the payments in actual money; and to include the capital, and interest +preceding and subsequent to the war, would give satisfaction to the +world, and to the merchants in general. Since it is left for each nation +to pursue their own measures, in the execution of the late treaty, may +not Congress, with propriety, recommend a mode of executing that article +respecting the debts, and send it to each State to be passed into law? +Whether England gives up the posts or not, these debts must be paid, +or our character stained with infamy among all nations, and through all +time. As to the satisfaction for slaves carried off, it is a bagatelle, +which, if not made good before the last instalment becomes due, may be +secured out of that. + +I formerly communicated the overtures for a treaty, which had been made +by the imperial ambassador. The instructions from Congress being +in their favor, and Mr. Adams's opinion also, I encouraged them. He +expected his full powers when I went to England. Yet I did not think, +nor did Mr. Adams, that this was of importance enough to weigh against +the objects of that journey. He received them soon after my departure, +and communicated it to me on my return, asking a copy of our +propositions. I gave him one, but observed, our commission had then but +a few days to run. He desired I should propose to Congress the giving +new powers to go on with this, and said, that, in the mean time, he +would arrange with us the plan. In a commercial view, no great good is +to be gained by this. But in a political one, it may be expedient. As +the treaty would, of course, be in the terms of those of Prussia and +Portugal, it will give us but little additional embarrassment, in any +commercial regulations we may wish to establish. The exceptions from +these, which the other treaties will require, may take in the treaty +with the Emperor. I should be glad to communicate some answer, as soon +as Congress shall have made up their minds on it. My information to +Congress, on the subject of our commercial articles with this country, +has only come down to January the 27th. Whether I shall say any thing on +it, in my letter to Mr. Jay by this conveyance, depends on its not +being too early for an appointment I expect hourly from the Count de +Vergennes, to meet him on this and other subjects. My last information +was, that the lease was too far advanced to withdraw from it the article +of tobacco, but that a clause is inserted in it, empowering the King +to discontinue it at any time. A discontinuance is, therefore, the +only remaining object, and as even this cannot be effected till the +expiration of the old lease, which is about the end of the present year, +I have wished only to stir the subject, from time to time, so as to keep +it alive. This idea led me into a measure proposed by the Marquis de +la Fayette, whose return from Berlin found the matter at that point, to +which my former report to Congress had conducted it. I communicated to +him what I had been engaged on, what were my prospects, and my purpose +of keeping the subject just open. He offered his services with that zeal +which commands them on every occasion respecting America. He suggested +to me the meeting two or three gentlemen, well acquainted with this +business. We met. They urged me to propose to the Count de Vergennes, +the appointing a committee to take the matter into consideration. I +told them, that decency would not permit me to point out to the Count de +Vergennes the mode by which he should conduct a negotiation, but that +I would press again the necessity of an arrangement, if, whilst that +should be operating on his mind, they would suggest the appointment of +a committee. The Marquis offered his services for this purpose. The +consequence was the appointment of a committee, and the Marquis as a +member of it. I communicated to him my papers. He collected other lights +wherever he could, and particularly from the gentlemen with whom we had +before concerted, and who had a good acquaintance with the subject. The +Marquis became our champion in the committee, and two of its members, +who were of the corps of Farmers General, entered the lists on the other +side. Each gave in memorials. The lease, indeed, was signed while I was +gone to England, but the discussions were, and still are continued in +the committee: from which we derive two advantages; 1. that of showing, +that the object is not to be relinquished; and 2. that of enlightening +government, as to its true interest. The Count de Vergennes is +absolutely for it; but it is not in his department. Calonne is his +friend, and in this instance his principle seems to be, _Amica +veritas, sed magis amicus Plato_. An additional hope is founded in the +expectation of a change of the minister of finance. The present one is +under the absolute control of the Farmers General. The committee's views +have been somewhat different from mine. They despair of a suppression of +the Farm, and therefore wish to obtain palliatives, which would coincide +with the particular good of this country. I think, that so long as the +monopoly in the sale is kept up, it is of no consequence to us, how they +modify the pill for their own internal relief: but, on the contrary, the +worse it remains, the more necessary it will render a reformation. Any +palliative would take from us all those arguments and friends, that +would be satisfied with accommodation. The Marquis, though differing in +opinion from me on this point, has, however, adhered to my principle +of absolute liberty or nothing. In this condition is the matter at this +moment. Whether I say any thing on the subject to Mr. Jay, will depend +on my interview with the Count de Vergennes. I doubt whether that will +furnish any thing worth communicating, and whether it will be in time. +I therefore state thus much to you, that you may see the matter is not +laid aside. + +I must beg leave to recommend Colonel Humphreys to your acquaintance and +good offices. He is an excellent man, an able one, and in need of some +provision. Besides former applications to me in favor of Dumas, the +Rhingrave of Salm (the effective minister of the government of Holland, +while their two ambassadors here are ostensible), who is conducting +secret arrangements for them with this court, presses his interests on +us. It is evident the two governments make a point of it. You ask, why +they do not provide for him themselves. I am not able to answer the +question, but by a conjecture, that Dumas's particular ambition prefers +an appointment from us. I know all the difficulty of this application, +which Congress has to encounter. I see the reasons against giving +him the primary appointment at that court, and the difficulty of his +accommodating himself to a subordinate one. Yet I think something must +be done in it, to gratify this court, of which we must be always asking +favors. In these countries, personal favors weigh more than public +interest. The minister who has asked a gratification for Dumas, has +embarked his own feelings and reputation in that demand. I do not +think it was discreet, by any means. But this reflection might perhaps +aggravate a disappointment. I know not really what you can do: but yet +hope something will be done. Adieu, my Dear Sir, and believe me to be + +yours affectionately, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XVI.--TO JOHN ADAMS, May 11, 1786 + + +TO JOHN ADAMS. + +Paris, May 11, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +I do myself the honor of enclosing to you, letters which came to hand +last night, from Mr. Lambe, Mr. Carmichael, and Mr. Barclay. By these +you will perceive, that our peace is not to be purchased at Algiers but +at a price far beyond our powers. What that would be, indeed, Mr. Lambe +does not say, nor probably does he know. But as he knew our ultimatum, +we are to suppose from his letter, that it would be a price infinitely +beyond that. A reference to Congress hereon seems to be necessary. Till +that can be obtained, Mr. Lambe must be idle at Algiers, Carthagena, or +elsewhere. Would he not be better employed in going to Congress? +They would be able to draw from him and Mr. Randall, the information +necessary to determine what they will do. And if they determine to +negotiate, they can re-appoint the same, or appoint a new negotiator, +according to the opinion they shall form on their examination. I suggest +this to you as my first thoughts; an ultimate opinion should not be +formed till we see Mr. Randall, who may be shortly expected. In the mean +time, should an opportunity occur, favor me with your ideas hereon that +we may be maturing our opinions. I shall send copies of these three +letters to Mr. Jay, by the packet which sails from L'Orient the first of +the next month. + +***** + +I have the honor to be, with great esteem, Dear Sir, your most obedient +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson + + + + +LETTER XVII.--TO LISTER ASQUITH, May 22, 1786 + + +TO LISTER ASQUITH. + +Paris, May 22, 1786. + +Sir, + +When I left this place for England, I had no suspicion that any thing +more would be necessary on my part for your liberation. Being but lately +returned, I could not sooner acknowledge the receipt of your letters of +April the 21st and May the 1st. I this day write to M. Desbordes, to pay +the charges necessary for your enlargement, to furnish you with a guinea +apiece, and to take your draft on Mr. Grand for those sums, and the +others which he has furnished you at my request. This being a new +case, I am unable to say whether you will be held to repay this money. +Congress will decide on that, to whom I shall send a report of the case, +and to whom you should apply on your return to America, to know whether +you are to repay it or not. During the whole of this long transaction, +I have never ceased soliciting your discharge. The evidence furnished by +the Farmers to the ministers, impressed them with a belief that you were +guilty. However, they obtained a remission of all which the King could +remit, which was your condemnation to the galleys, and imprisonment, +and the sum in which you were fined. The confiscation belonged to the +Farmers, and the expenses of subsistence and of prosecution were theirs +also, and so could not be remitted by the King. I wish you to be assured +of my sensibility for your sufferings, and of my wishes to have obtained +an earlier relief, had it been possible. I shall be glad if you can have +an immediate and safe return to your own country, and there find your +families well, and make those who may be authorized to decide on your +case sensible, that these misfortunes have not been brought on you by +any desire of yours, to infringe the laws of the country in which you +have suffered. I enclose herewith your log-book and the other papers +desired by you, and am, Sir, + +your most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XVIII.--TO JOHN JAY, May 23, 1786 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Sir, + +Paris, May 23, 1786. + +Letters received both from Madrid and Algiers, while I was in London, +having suggested that treaties with the States of Barbary would be much +facilitated by a previous one with the Ottoman Porte, it was agreed +between Mr. Adams and myself, that on my return, I should consult +on this subject the Count de Vergennes, whose long residence at +Constantinople rendered him the best judge of its expediency. Various +circumstances have put it out of my power to consult him, till to-day. +I stated to him the difficulties we were likely to meet with at +Algiers; and asked his opinion, what would be the probable expense of a +diplomatic mission to Constantinople, and what its effect at Algiers. +He said that the expense would be very great, for that presents must be +made at that court, and every one would be gaping after them: and that +it would not procure us a peace at Algiers one penny the cheaper. He +observed, that the Barbary States acknowledged a sort of vassalage to +the Porte, and availed themselves of that relation, when any thing was +to be gained by it; but that whenever it subjected them to a demand from +the Porte, they totally disregarded it: that money was the sole agent +at Algiers, except so far as fear could be induced also. He cited the +present example of Spain, which, though having a treaty with the Porte +would probably be obliged to buy a peace at Algiers, at the expense of +upwards of six millions of livres. I told him, we had calculated from +the demands and information of the Tripoline ambassador, at London, that +to make peace with the four Barbary States would cost us between two and +three hundred thousand guineas, if bought with money. The sum did not +seem to exceed his expectations. I mentioned to him, that considering +the uncertainty of a peace, when bought, perhaps Congress might think +it more eligible to establish a cruise of frigates in the Mediterranean, +and even to blockade Algiers. He supposed it would require ten vessels, +great and small. I observed to him that Monsieur de Massiac had formerly +done it with five: he said it was true, but that vessels of relief would +be necessary. I hinted to him that I thought the English capable of +administering aid to the Algerines. He seemed to think it impossible, +on account of the scandal it would bring on. I asked him what had +occasioned the blockade by Monsieur de Massiac: he said, an infraction +of their treaty by the Algerines. + +I had a good deal of conversation with him, also, on the situation of +affairs between England and the United States: and particularly, on +their refusal to deliver up our posts. I observed to him, that the +obstructions thrown in the way of the recovery of their debts, were +the effect, and not the cause, as they pretended, of their refusal to +deliver up the posts; that the merchants interested in these debts, +showed a great disposition to make arrangements with us; that the +article of time we could certainly have settled, and probably that +of the interest during the war: but that, the minister showing no +disposition to have these matters arranged, I thought it a sufficient +proof that this was not the true cause of their retaining the posts. He +concurred as to the justice of our requiring time for the payment of +our debts; said nothing which showed a difference of opinion as to the +article of interest, and seemed to believe fully, that their object was +to divert the channel of the fur-trade, before they delivered up the +posts, and expressed a strong sense of the importance of that commerce +to us. I told him I really could not foresee what would be the event of +this detention; that the situation of the British funds, and the desire +of their minister to begin to reduce the national debt, seemed to +indicate that they could not wish a war. He thought so, but that neither +were we in a condition to go to war. I told him, I was yet uninformed +what Congress proposed to do on this subject, but that we should +certainly always count on the good offices of France, and I was sure +that the offer of them would suffice to induce Great Britain to do us +justice. He said that surely we might always count on the friendship +of France. I added, that by the treaty of alliance, she was bound to +guaranty our limits to us, as they should be established at the moment +of peace. He said they were so, '_mais qu'il nous etoit necessaire de +les constater_.' I told him there was no question what our boundaries +were; that the English themselves admitted they were clear beyond +all question. I feared, however, to press this any further, lest a +reciprocal question should be put to me, and therefore diverted the +conversation to another object. This is a sketch only of a conference +which was long. I have endeavored to give the substance, and sometimes +the expressions, where they were material. I supposed it would be +agreeable to Congress to have it communicated to them, in the present +undecided state in which these subjects are. I should add, that +an explanation of the transaction of Monsieur de Massiac with the +Algerines, before hinted at, will be found in the enclosed letter from +the Count d'Estaing to me, wherein he gives also his own opinion. The +whole is submitted to Congress, as I conceive it my duty to furnish them +with whatever information I can gather, which may throw any light on the +subjects depending before them. I have the honor to be, with the most +perfect esteem and respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XIX.--TO MR. CARMICHAEL, June 20, 1786 + + +TO MR. CARMICHAEL. + +Paris, June 20, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +My last to you was of the 5th of May, by Baron Waltersdorff. Since that +I have been honored with yours of April the 13th, and May the 16th and +18th. The present covers letters to Mr. Lambe and Mr. Randall, informing +them that the demands of Algiers for the ransom of our prisoners and +also for peace, are so infinitely beyond our instructions, that we must +refer the matter back to Congress, and therefore praying them to come on +immediately. I will beg the favor of you to forward these letters. The +whole of this business, therefore, is suspended till we receive further +orders, except as to Mr. Barclay's mission. Your bills have been +received and honored. The first naming expressly a letter of advice, and +none coming, it was refused till the receipt of your letter to me, in +which you mentioned that you had drawn two bills. I immediately informed +Mr. Grand, who thereupon honored the bill. + +I have received no public letters of late date. Through other channels, +I have collected some articles of information, which may be acceptable +to you. + +***** + +In a letter of March the 20th, from Dr. Franklin to me, is this passage. +'As to public affairs, the Congress has not been able to assemble more +than seven or eight States during the whole winter, so the treaty with +Prussia remains still unratified, though there is no doubt of its being +done soon, as a full Congress is expected next month. The disposition to +furnish Congress with ample powers augments daily, as people become more +enlightened. And I do not remember ever to have seen, during my long +life, more signs of public felicity than appear at present, throughout +these States; the cultivators of the earth, who make the bulk of our +nation, have made good crops, which are paid for at high prices, with +ready money; the artisans, too, receive high wages; and the value of all +real estates is augmented greatly. Merchants and shopkeepers, indeed, +complain that there is not business enough. But this is evidently not +owing to the fewness of buyers, but to the too great number of sellers; +for the consumption of goods was never greater, as appears by the dress, +furniture, and manner of living, of all ranks of the people.' His health +is good, except as to the stone, which does not grow worse. I thank +you for your attention to my request about the books, which Mr. Barclay +writes me he has forwarded from Cadiz. + +I have the honor to be with great respect, Dear Sir, your most obedient, +humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XX.--TO MR. LAMBE, June 20,1786 + + +TO MR. LAMBE. + +Sir, + +Paris, June 20,1786. + +Having communicated to Mr. Adams the information received, at different +times, from yourself, from Mr. Randall, and Mr. Carmichael, we find +that the sum likely to be demanded by Algiers for the ransom of our +prisoners, as well as for peace, is so infinitely beyond our powers, and +the expectations of Congress, that it has become our duty to refer the +whole matter back to them. Whether they will choose to buy a peace, to +force one, or to do nothing, will rest in their pleasure. But that +they may have all the information possible to guide them in their +deliberations, we think it important that you should return to them. +No time will be lost by this, and perhaps time maybe gained. It is, +therefore, our joint desire, that you repair immediately to New York, +for the purpose of giving to Congress all the information on this +subject, which your journey has enabled you to acquire. You will +consider this request as coming from Mr. Adams as well as myself, as +it is by express authority from him, that I join him in it. I am of +opinion, it will be better for you to come to Marseilles and by Paris: +because there is a possibility that fresh orders to us, from Congress, +might render it useful that we, also, should have received from you all +possible information on this subject. And perhaps no time may be lost by +this, as it might be long before you would set a passage from Alicant to +America. + +I am, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXI.--TO MONSIEUR DE REYNEVAL, June 25, 1786 + + +TO MONSIEUR DE REYNEVAL. + +Paris, June 25, 1786. + +Sir, + +I have received letters from two citizens of the United States, of the +names of Geary and Arnold, informing me, that having for some time past +exercised commerce in London, and having failed, they were obliged to +leave that country; that they came over to Dunkirk, and from thence to +Brest, where, one of them having changed his name, the more effectually +to elude the search of his creditors, they were both imprisoned by order +of the commandant; whether at the suit of their creditors, or because +one of them changed his name, they are uninformed. But they are told, +that the commandant has sent information of his proceedings to your +office. I have some reason to suppose, their creditors are endeavoring +to obtain leave to remove them to England, where their imprisonment +would be perpetual. Unable to procure information elsewhere, I take the +liberty of asking you, whether you know the cause of their imprisonment, +and of soliciting your attention to them, so far as that nothing may +take place against them by surprise, and out of the ordinary course of +the law. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble; servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXII.--TO THE PREVOT DES MARCHANDS, September 27, 1786 + + +TO THE PREVOT DES MARCHANDS ET ECHEVINS DE PARIS. + +Paris, September 27, 1786. + +Gentlemen, + +The commonwealth of Virginia, in gratitude for the services of Major +General the Marquis de la Fayette, have determined to erect his bust in +their Capital. Desirous to place a like monument of his worth, and of +their sense of it, in the country to which they are indebted for his +birth, they have hoped that the city of Paris will consent to become the +depository of this second testimony of their gratitude. Being charged by +them with the execution of their wishes, I have the honor to solicit of +Messieurs le Prevot des Marchands et Echevins, on behalf of the city, +their acceptance of a bust of this gallant officer, and that they will +be pleased to place it where, doing most honor to him, it will most +gratify the feelings of an allied nation. + +It is with true pleasure that I obey the call of that commonwealth, to +render just homage to a character so great in its first developements, +that they would honor the close of any other. Their country covered by +a small army against a great one, their exhausted means supplied by his +talents, their enemies finally forced to that spot whither their allies +and confederates were collecting to receive them, and a war which had +spread its miseries into the four quarters of the earth thus reduced +to a single point, where one blow should terminate it, and through the +whole, an implicit respect paid to the laws of the land; these are facts +which would illustrate any character, and which fully justify the warmth +of those feelings, of which I have the honor, on this occasion, to be +the organ. + +It would have been more pleasing to me to have executed this office in +person, to have mingled the tribute of private gratitude with that of my +country, and, at the same time, to have had an opportunity of presenting +to your honorable body, the homage of that profound respect which I have +the honor to bear them. But I am withheld from these grateful duties, +by the consequences of a fall, which confine me to my room. Mr. Short, +therefore, a citizen of the State of Virginia, and heretofore a member +of its Council of State, will have the honor of delivering you this +letter, together with the resolution of the General Assembly of +Virginia. He will have that, also, of presenting the bust at such time +and place, as you will be so good as to signify your pleasure to receive +it. Through him, I beg to be allowed the honor of presenting those +sentiments of profound respect and veneration, with which I am, +Gentlemen, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXIII.--TO COLONEL MONROE, July 9, 1786 + + +TO COLONEL MONROE. + +Paris, July 9, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +I wrote you last on the 10th of May; since which your favor of May the +11th has come to hand. The political world enjoys great quiet here. The +King of Prussia is still living, but like the snuff of a candle, which +sometimes seems out, and then blazes up again. Some think that his death +will not produce any immediate effect in Europe. His kingdom like a +machine, will go on for some time with the winding up he has given it. +The King's visit to Cherbourg has made a great sensation in England +and here. It proves to the world, that it is a serious object to this +country, and that the King commits himself for the accomplishment of +it. Indeed, so many cones have been sunk, that no doubt remains of the +practicability of it. It will contain, as is said, eighty ships of +the line, be one of the best harbors in the world, and by means of two +entrances, on different sides, will admit vessels to come in and go out +with every wind. The effect of this, in another war with England, defies +calculation. Having no news to communicate, I will recur to the subjects +of your letter of May the 11th. + +With respect to the new States, were the question to stand simply in +this form, How may the ultramontane territory be disposed of, so as to +produce the greatest and most immediate benefit to the inhabitants of +the maritime States of the Union? the plan would be more plausible, of +laying it off into two or three States only. Even on this view, however, +there would still be something to be said against it, which might render +it at least doubtful. But that is a question, which good faith forbids +us to receive into discussion. This requires us to state the question in +its just form, How may the territories of the Union be disposed of, so +as to produce the greatest degree of happiness to their inhabitants? +With respect to the maritime States, little or nothing remains to +be done. With respect, then, to the ultramontane States, will their +inhabitants be happiest, divided into States of thirty thousand square +miles, not quite as large as Pennsylvania, or into States of one hundred +and sixty thousand square miles each, that is to say, three times as +large as Virginia within the Allegany? They will not only be happier in +States of moderate size, but it is the only way in which they can exist +as a regular society. Considering the American character in general, +that of those people particularly, and the energetic nature of our +governments, a State of such extent as one hundred and sixty thousand +square miles, would soon crumble into little ones. These are the +circumstances, which reduce the Indians to such small societies. They +would produce an effect on our people, similar to this. They would not +be broken into such small pieces, because they are more habituated to +subordination, and value more a government of regular law. But you +would surely reverse the nature of things, in making small States on +the ocean, and large ones beyond the mountains. If we could, in our +consciences, say, that great States beyond the mountains will make the +people happiest, we must still ask, whether they will be contented to be +laid off into large States. They certainly will not: and if they decide +to divide themselves, we are not able to restrain them. They will end by +separating from our confederacy, and becoming its enemies. We had better +then look forward, and see what will be the probable course of things. +This will surely be a division of that country into States, of a small, +or, at most, of a moderate size. If we lay them off into such, they will +acquiesce; and we shall have the advantage of arranging them, so as to +produce the best combinations of interest. What Congress have already +done in this matter, is an argument the more, in favor of the revolt of +those States against a different arrangement, and of their acquiescence +under a continuance of that. Upon this plan, we treat them as +fellow-citizens; they will have a just share in their own government; +they will love us, and pride themselves in an union with us. Upon +the other, we treat them as subjects; we govern them, and not they +themselves; they will abhor us as masters, and break off from us in +defiance. I confess to you, that I can see no other turn that these two +plans would take. But I respect your opinion, and your knowledge of the +country, too much, to be over-confident in my own. + +I thank you sincerely for your communication, that my not having sooner +given notice of the _Arrets_ relative to fish, gave discontent to some +persons. These are the most friendly offices you can do me, because they +enable me to justify myself, if I am right, or correct myself, if wrong. +If those who thought I might have been remiss, would have written to me +on the subject, I should have admired them for their candor, and thanked +them for it: for I have no jealousies nor resentments at things of this +kind, where I have no reason to believe they have been excited by a +hostile spirit; and I suspect no such spirit in a single member of +Congress. You know there were two _Arrets_; the first of August the +30th, 1784, the second of the 18th and 25th of September, 1785. As to +the first, it would be a sufficient justification of myself, to say, +that it was in the time of my predecessor, nine months before I came +into office, and that there was no more reason for my giving information +of it, when I did come into office, than of all the other transactions, +which preceded that period. But this would seem to lay a blame on Dr. +Franklin for not communicating it, which I am confident he did not +deserve. This government affects a secrecy in all its transactions +whatsoever, though they be of a nature not to admit a perfect secrecy. +Their _Arrets_ respecting the islands go to those islands, and are +unpublished and unknown in France, except in the bureau where they are +formed. That of August, 1784, would probably be communicated to the +merchants of the seaport towns also. But Paris having no commercial +connections with them, if any thing makes its way from a seaport town +to Paris, it must be by accident. We have, indeed, agents in these +seaports; but they value their offices so little, that they do not +trouble themselves to inform us of what is passing there. As a proof +that these things do not transpire here, nor are easily got at, +recollect that Mr. Adams, Dr. Franklin, and myself were all here on the +spot together, from August, 1784, to June, 1785, that is to say, ten +months, and yet not one of us knew of the _Arret_ of August, 1784. +September the 18th and 25th, 1785, the second was passed. And here alone +I became responsible. I think it was about six weeks before I got notice +of it, that is, in November. On the 20th of that month, writing to Count +de Vergennes on another subject, I took occasion to remonstrate to him +on that. But from early in November, when the Fitzhughs went to America. +I had never a confidential opportunity of writing to Mr. Jay from hence, +directly, for several months. In a letter of December the 14th, to +Mr. Jay, I mentioned to him the want of an opportunity to write to him +confidentially, which obliged me at that moment to write by post via +London, and on such things only, as both post-offices were welcome to +see. On the 2nd of January, Mr. Bingham setting out for London, I wrote +to Mr. Jay, sending him a copy of my letter to Count de Vergennes, and +stating something, which had passed in conversation on the same subject. +I prayed Mr. Bingham to take charge of the letter, and either to send it +by a safe hand, or carry it himself, as circumstances should render most +advisable. I believe he kept it, to carry himself. He did not sail from +London till about the 12th of March, nor arrive in America till the +middle of May. Thus you see, that causes had prevented a letter, which +I had written on the 20th of November, from getting to America till the +month of May. No wonder, then, if notice of this _Arret_ came first to +you by the way of the West Indies: and, in general, I am confident, that +you will receive notice of the regulations of this country, respecting +their islands, by the way of those islands, before you will from hence. +Nor can this be remedied, but by a system of bribery, which would end +in the corruption of your own ministers, and produce no good adequate +to the expense. Be so good as to communicate these circumstances to the +persons who you think may have supposed me guilty of remissness on this +occasion. + +I will turn to a subject more pleasing to both, and give you my sincere +congratulations on your marriage. Your own dispositions, and the +inherent comforts of that state, will insure you a great addition of +happiness. Long may you live to enjoy it, and enjoy it in full measure. +The interest I feel in every one connected with you, will justify my +presenting my earliest respects to the lady, and of tendering her the +homage of my friendship. I shall be happy at all times to be useful to +either of you, and to receive your commands. I enclose you the bill of +lading of your _Encyclopedie_. With respect to the remittance for it, +of which you make mention, I beg you not to think of it. I know, by +experience, that on proceeding to make a settlement in life, a man has +need of all his resources; and I should be unhappy, were you to lessen +them by an attention to this trifle. Let it lie till you have nothing +else to do with your money. Adieu, my Dear Sir, and be assured of the +esteem with which I am your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXIV.--TO JOHN ADAMS, July 11, 1786 + + +TO JOHN ADAMS. + +Paris, July 11, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +Our instructions relative to the Barbary States having required us to +proceed by way of negotiation to obtain their peace, it became our +duty to do this to the best of our power. Whatever might be our private +opinions, they were to be suppressed, and the line marked out to us +was to be followed. It has been so, honestly and zealously. It was, +therefore, never material for us to consult together on the best plan +of conduct towards these States. I acknowledge I very, early thought it +would be best to effect a peace through the medium of war. Though it +is a question with which we have nothing to do, yet as you propose +some discussion of it, I shall trouble you with my reasons. Of the four +positions laid down in your letter of the 3rd instant, I agree to the +three first, which are, in substance, that the good offices of our +friends cannot procure us a peace, without paying its price, that they +cannot materially lessen that price; and that paying it, we can have the +peace in spite of the intrigues of our enemies. As to the fourth, that +the longer the negotiation is delayed, the larger will be the demand; +this will depend on the intermediate captures: if they are many and +rich, the price may be raised; if few and poor, it will be lessened. +However, if it is decided, that we shall buy a peace, I know no reason +for delaying the operation, but should rather think it ought to be +hastened: but I should prefer the obtaining it by war. + +1. Justice is in favor of this opinion. 2. Honor favors it. 3. It will +procure us respect in Europe; and respect is a safeguard to interest. 4. +It will arm the federal head with the safest of all the instruments of +coercion over its delinquent members, and prevent it from using what +would be less safe. I think, that so far you go with me. But in the +next steps we shall differ. 5. I think it least expensive. 6. Equally +effectual. I ask a fleet of one hundred and fifty guns, the one half +of which shall be in constant cruise. This fleet, built, manned, and +victualled for six months, will cost four hundred and fifty thousand +pounds sterling. Its annual expense will be three hundred pounds +sterling a gun, including every thing: this will be forty-five thousand +pounds sterling a year. I take British experience for the basis of my +calculation: though we know, from our own experience, that we can do in +this way for pounds lawful, what costs them pounds sterling. Were we to +charge all this to the Algerine war, it would amount to little more than +we must pay if we buy peace. But as it is proper and necessary, that we +should establish a small marine force (even were we to buy a peace from +the Algerines), and as that force, laid up in our dock-yard, would cost +us half as much annually as if kept in order for service, we have a +right to say, that only twenty-two thousand and five hundred pounds +sterling, per annum, should be charged to the Algerine war. 6. It will +be as effectual. To all the mismanagements of Spain and Portugal, urged +to show that war against those people is ineffectual, I urge a single +fact to prove the contrary, where there is any management. About forty +years ago, the Algerines having broke their treaty with France, this +court sent Monsieur de Massiac, with one large and two small frigates: +he blockaded the harbor of Algiers three months, and they subscribed +to the terms he proposed. If it be admitted, however, that war, on the +fairest prospects, is still exposed to uncertainties, I weigh against +this the greater uncertainty of the duration of a peace bought with +money, from such a people, from a Dey eighty years old, and by a nation +who, on the hypothesis of buying peace, is to have no power on the sea +to enforce an observance of it. + +So far I have gone on the supposition, that the whole weight of this war +would rest on us. But, 1. Naples will join us. The character of their +naval minister (Acton), his known sentiments with respect to the peace +Spain is officiously trying to make for them, and his dispositions +against the Algerines, give the best grounds to believe it. 2. Every +principle of reason assures,us, that Portugal will join us. I state this +as taking for granted, what all seem to believe, that they will not +be at peace with Algiers. I suppose, then, that a convention might be +formed between Portugal, Naples, and the United States, by which +the burthen of the war might be quotaed on them, according to their +respective wealth; and the term of it should be, when Algiers should +subscribe to a peace with all three on equal terms. This might be left +open for other nations to accede to, and many, if not most of the powers +of Europe (except France, England, Holland, and Spain, if her peace be +made), would sooner or later enter into the confederacy, for the sake of +having their peace with the piratical States guarantied by the whole. +I suppose, that, in this case, our proportion of force would not be the +half of what I first calculated on. + +These are the reasons, which have influenced my judgment on this +question. I give them to you, to show you that I am imposed on by a +semblance of reason at least; and not with an expectation of their +changing your opinion. You have viewed the subject, I am sure, in +all its bearings. You have weighed both questions, with all their +circumstances. You make the result different from what I do. The same +facts impress us differently. This is enough to make me suspect an error +in my process of reasoning, though I am not able to detect it. It is of +no consequence; as I have nothing to say in the decision, and am ready +to proceed heartily on any other plan, which may be adopted, if my +agency should be thought useful. With respect to the dispositions of the +States, I am utterly uninformed. I cannot help thinking, however, that +on a view of all the circumstances, they might be united in either of +the plans. + +Having written this on the receipt of your letter, without knowing +of any opportunity of sending it, I know not when it will go: I add +nothing, therefore, on any other subject, but assurances of the sincere +esteem and respect, with which I am, + +Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXV.--TO JOHN JAY, August 11, 1786 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, August 11, 1786. + +Sir, + +Since the date of my last, which was of July the 8th, I have been +honored with the receipt of yours of June the 16th. I am to thank you, +on the part of the minister of Geneva, for the intelligence it contained +on the subject of Gallatin, whose relations will be relieved by the +receipt of it. + +The enclosed intelligence, relative to the instructions of the court of +London to Sir Guy Carleton, came to me through the Count de la Touche +and Marquis de la Fayette. De la Touche is a director under the Marechal +de Castries, minister for the marine department, and possibly receives +his intelligence from him, and he from their ambassador at London. +Possibly, too, it might be fabricated here. Yet weighing the characters +of the ministry of St. James's and Versailles, I think the former more +capable of giving such instructions, than the latter of fabricating them +for the small purposes the fabrication could answer. + +The Gazette of France, of July the 28th, announces the arrival of +Peyrouse at Brazil, that he was to touch at Otaheite, and proceed to +California, and still further northwardly. This paper, as you well +know, gives out such facts as the court are willing the world should +be possessed of. The presumption is, therefore, that they will make an +establishment of some sort on the northwest coast of America. + +I trouble you with the copy of a letter from Schweighauser and Dobree, +on a subject with which I am quite unacquainted. Their letter to +Congress of November the 30th, 1780, gives their state of the matter. +How far it be true and just, can probably be ascertained from Dr. +Franklin, Dr. Lee, and other gentlemen now in America. I shall be glad +to be honored with the commands of Congress on this subject. I have +inquired into the state of the arms, mentioned in their letter to +me. The principal articles were about thirty thousand bayonets, fifty +thousand gunlocks, thirty cases of arms, twenty-two cases of sabres, and +some other things of little consequence. The quay at Nantes having been +overflowed by the river Loire, the greatest part of these arms was under +water, and they are now, as I am informed, a solid mass of rust, not +worth the expense of throwing them out of the warehouse, much less that +of storage. Were not their want of value a sufficient reason against +reclaiming the property of these arms, it rests with Congress to decide, +whether other reasons are not opposed to this reclamation. They were the +property of a sovereign body, they were seized by an individual, taken +cognizance of by a court of justice, and refused, or at least not +restored by the sovereign, within whose State they had been arrested. +These are circumstances which have been mentioned to me. Doctor +Franklin, however, will be able to inform Congress, with precision, as +to what passed on this subject. If the information I have received be +any thing like the truth, the discussion of this matter can only be with +the court of Versailles. It would be very delicate, and could have but +one of two objects; either to recover the arms, which are not worth +receiving, or to satisfy us on the point of honor. Congress will judge +how far the latter may be worth pursuing against a particular ally, and +under actual circumstances. An instance, too, of acquiescence on our +part under a wrong, rather than disturb our friendship by altercations, +may have its value in some future case. However, I shall be ready to do +in this what Congress shall be pleased to direct. + +I enclose the despatches relative to the Barbary negotiation, received +since my last. It is painful to me to overwhelm Congress and yourself +continually with these voluminous papers. But I have no right to +suppress any part of them, and it is one of those cases, where, from +a want of well digested information, we must be contented to examine a +great deal of rubbish, in order to find a little good matter. + +The gazettes of Leyden and France, to the present date, accompany this, +which, for want of direct and safe opportunities, I am obliged to send +by an American gentleman, by the way of London. The irregularity of the +French packets has diverted elsewhere the tide of passengers who used to +furnish me occasions of writing to you, without permitting my letters +to go through the post-office. So that when the packets go now, I can +seldom write by them. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the highest esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + [The annexed is a translation of the paper referred to in + the preceding letter, on the subject of the instructions + given to Sir Guy Carleton.] + +_An extract of English political news, concerning North America, July +14th, 1786_. + +General Carleton departs in a few days with M. de la Naudiere, a +Canadian gentleman. He has made me acquainted with the Indian Colonel +Joseph Brandt. It is certain that he departs with the most positive +instructions to distress the Americans as much as possible, and to +create them enemies on all sides. + +Colonel Brandt goes loaded with presents for himself, and for several +chiefs of the tribes bordering on Canada. It would be well for the +Americans to know in time, that enemies are raised against them, in +order to derange their system of government, and to add to the confusion +which already exists in it. The new possessions of England will not only +gain what America shall lose, but will acquire strength in proportion to +the weakening of the United States. + +Sooner or later, the new States which are forming will place themselves +under the protection of England, which can always communicate with them +through Canada; and which, in case of future necessity, can harass the +United States on one side, by her shipping, and on the other, by her +intrigues. This system has not yet come to maturity, but it is unfolded, +and we may rely upon the instructions given to Colonel Brandt. + + + + + +LETTER XXVI.--TO COLONEL MONROE, August 11, 1786 + + +TO COLONEL MONROE. + +Paris, August 11, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +I wrote you last on the 9th of July; and since that, have received yours +of the 16th of June, with the interesting intelligence it contained. +I was entirely in the dark as to the progress of that negotiation, and +concur entirely in the views you have taken of it The difficulty on +which it hangs, is a _sine qua non_ with us. It would be to deceive them +and ourselves, to suppose that an amity can be preserved, while this +right is withheld. Such a supposition would argue, not only an ignorance +of the people to whom this is most interesting, but an ignorance of the +nature of man, or an inattention to it. Those who see but halfway into +our true interest, will think that that concurs with the views of the +other party. But those who see it in all its extent, will be sensible +that our true interest will be best promoted, by making all the just +claims of our fellow-citizens, wherever situated, our own, by urging and +enforcing them with the weight of our whole influence, and by exercising +in this, as in every other instance, a just government in their +concerns, and making common cause, even where our separate interest +would seem opposed to theirs. No other conduct can attach us together; +and on this attachment depends our happiness. + +The King of Prussia still lives, and is even said to be better. Europe +is very quiet at present. The only germ of dissension which shows itself +at present, is in the quarter of Turkey. The Emperor, the Empress, and +the Venetians seem all to be picking at the Turks. It is not probable, +however, that either of the two first will do any thing to bring on an +open rupture, while the King of Prussia lives. + +You will perceive by the letters I enclose to Mr. Jay, that Lambe, under +the pretext of ill health, declines returning either to Congress, Mr. +Adams, or myself. This circumstance makes me fear some malversation. +The money appropriated to this object being in Holland, and having been +always under the care of Mr. Adams, it was concerted between us that all +the drafts should be on him. I know not, therefore, what sums may have +been advanced to Lambe; I hope, however, nothing great. I am persuaded +that an angel sent on this business, and so much limited in his terms, +could have done nothing. But should Congress propose to try the line of +negotiation again, I think they will perceive that Lambe is not a proper +agent. I have written to Mr. Adams on the subject of a settlement with +Lambe. There is little prospect of accommodation between the Algerines, +and the Portuguese and Neapolitans. A very valuable capture too, lately +made by them on the Empress of Russia, bids fair to draw her on them. +The probability is therefore, that these three nations will be at war +with them, and the possibility is that could we furnish a couple of +frigates, a convention might be formed with those powers, establishing +a perpetual cruise on the coast of Algiers, which would bring them to +reason. Such a convention being left open to all powers willing to come +into it, should have for its object a general peace, to be guarantied +to each, by the whole. Were only two or three to begin a confederacy of +this kind, I think every power in Europe would soon fall into it, except +France, England, and perhaps Spain and Holland. Of these there is only +England who would give any real aid to the Algerines. Morocco, you +perceive, will be at peace with us. Were the honor and advantage of +establishing such a confederacy out of the question, yet the necessity +that the United States should have some marine force, and the happiness +of this, as the ostensible cause for beginning it, would decide on its +propriety. It will be said, there is no money in the treasury. There +never will be money in the treasury till the confederacy shows its +teeth. The States must see the rod; perhaps it must be felt by some +one of them. I am persuaded, all of them would rejoice to see every +one obliged to furnish its contributions. It is not the difficulty of +furnishing them, which beggars the treasury, but the fear that others +will not furnish as much. Every rational citizen must wish to see an +effective instrument of coercion, and should fear to see it on any other +element than the water. A naval force can never endanger our liberties, +nor occasion bloodshed: a land force would do both. It is not in the +choice of the States, whether they will pay money to cover their trade +against the Algerines. If they obtain a peace by negotiation, they must +pay a great sum of money for it; if they do nothing, they must pay a +great sum of money, in the form of insurance; and in either way, as +great a one as in the way of force, and probably less effectual. + +I look forward with anxiety to the approaching moment of your departure +from Congress. Besides the interest of the confederacy and of the State, +I have a personal interest in it. I know not to whom I may venture +confidential communications, after you are gone. I take the liberty of +placing here my respects to Mrs. Monroe, and assurances of the sincere +esteem with which I am, Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXVII.--TO MR. WYTHE, August 13,1786 + + +TO MR. WYTHE. + +Paris, August 13,1786. + +Dear Sir + +Your favors of January the 10th and February the 10th, came to hand +on the 20th and 23rd of May. I availed myself of the first opportunity +which occurred, by a gentleman going to England, of sending to +Mr. Joddrel a copy of the Notes on our country! with a line informing him, +that it was you who had emboldened me to take that liberty. Madison, no +doubt, informed you of the reason why I had sent only a single copy to +Virginia. Being assured by him, that they will not do the harm I had +apprehended, but on the contrary may do some good, I propose to send +thither the copies remaining on hand, which are fewer than I had +intended. But of the numerous corrections they need, there are one or +two so essential, that I must have them made, by printing a few new +leaves, and substituting them for the old. This will be done while +they are engraving a map which I have constructed, of the country from +Albemarle sound to Lake Erie, and which will be inserted in the book. A +bad French translation which is getting out here, will probably oblige +me to publish the original more freely; which it did not deserve, +nor did I intend. Your wishes, which are laws to me, will justify my +destining a copy for you, otherwise, I should as soon have thought +of sending you a horn-book; for there is no truth in it which is not +familiar to you, and its errors I should hardly have proposed to treat +you with. + +Immediately on the receipt of your letter, I wrote to a correspondent at +Florence to inquire after the family of Tagliaferro, as you desired. +I received his answer two days ago, a copy of which I now enclose. +The original shall be sent by some other occasion. I will have the +copper-plate immediately engraved. This may be ready within a few days, +but the probability is, that I shall be long getting an opportunity of +sending it to you, as these rarely occur. You do not mention the size +of the plate, but presuming it is intended for labels for the inside of +books, I shall have it made of a proper size for that. I shall omit the +word _agisos_, according to the license you allow me, because I think +the beauty of a motto is to condense much matter in as few words as +possible. The word omitted will be supplied by every reader. + +The European papers have announced, that the Assembly of Virginia were +occupied on the revisal of their code of laws. This, with some other +similar intelligence, has contributed much to convince the people of +Europe, that what the English papers are constantly publishing of our +anarchy, is false; as they are sensible that such a work is that of a +people only, who are in perfect tranquillity. Our act for freedom of +religion is extremely applauded. The ambassadors and ministers of the +several nations of Europe, resident at this court, have asked of me +copies of it, to send to their sovereigns, and it is inserted at full +length in several books now in the press; among others, in the new +_Encyclopedie_. I think it will produce considerable good even in these +countries, where ignorance, superstition, poverty, and oppression of +body and mind, in every form, are so firmly settled on the mass of the +people, that their redemption from them can never be hoped. If all the +sovereigns of Europe were to set themselves to work, to emancipate the +minds of their subjects from their present ignorance and prejudices, and +that, as zealously as they now endeavor the contrary, a thousand years +would not place them on that high ground, on which our common people +are now setting out. Ours could not have been so fairly placed under the +control of the common sense of the people, had they not been separated +from their parent stock, and kept from contamination, either from them, +or the other people of the old world, by the intervention of so wide an +ocean. To know the worth of this, one must see the want of it here. I +think by far the most important bill in our whole code, is that for the +diffusion of knowledge among the people. No other sure foundation can +be devised for the preservation of freedom and happiness. If any body +thinks, that kings, nobles, or priests are good conservators of the +public happiness, send him here. It is the best school in the universe +to cure him of that folly. He will see here, with his own eyes, that +these descriptions of men are an abandoned confederacy against the +happiness of the mass of the people. The omnipotence of their effect +cannot be better proved, than in this country particularly, where, +notwithstanding the finest soil upon earth, the finest climate under +heaven, and a people of the most benevolent, the most gay and amiable +character of which the human form is susceptible; where such a people, I +say, surrounded by so many blessings from nature, are loaded with misery +by kings, nobles, and priests, and by them alone. Preach, my dear Sir, +a crusade against ignorance; establish and improve the law for educating +the common people. Let our countrymen know, that the people alone can +protect us against these evils, and that the tax which will be paid for +this purpose, is not more than the thousandth part of what will be paid +to kings, priests, and nobles, who will rise up among us if we leave the +people in ignorance. The people of England, I think, are less oppressed +than here. But it needs but half an eye to see, when among them, that +the foundation is laid in their dispositions for the establishment of +a despotism. Nobility, wealth, and pomp are the objects of their +admiration. They are by no means the free-minded people, we suppose +them in America. Their learned men, too, are few in number, and are less +learned, and infinitely less emancipated from prejudice, than those +of this country. An event, too, seems to be preparing, in the order of +things, which will probably decide the fate of that country. It is no +longer doubtful, that the harbor of Cherbourg will be complete, that +it will be a most excellent one, and capacious enough to hold the whole +navy of France. Nothing has ever been wanting to enable this country +to invade that, but a naval force conveniently stationed to protect the +transports. This change of situation must oblige the English to keep up +a great standing army, and there is no King, who, with sufficient force, +is not always ready to make himself absolute. My paper warns me, it is +time to recommend myself to the friendly recollection of Mrs. Wythe, of +Colonel Taliaferro and his family, and particularly of Mr. R. T. and to +assure you of the affectionate esteem, with which I am, + +Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXVIII.--TO MRS. COSWAY, October 12, 1786 + +TO MRS. COSWAY. + +Paris, October 12, 1786. + +My Dear Madam, + +Having performed the last sad office of handing you into your carriage, +at the pavillion de St. Denis, and seen the wheels get actually into +motion, I turned on my heel and walked, more dead than alive, to the +opposite door, where my own was awaiting me. Mr. Danquerville was +missing. He was sought for, found, and dragged down stairs. We were +crammed into the carriage, like recruits for the Bastille, and not +having soul enough to give orders to the coachman, he presumed Paris our +destination, and drove off. After a considerable interval, silence was +broke, with a '_Je suis vraiment afflige du depart de ces bons +gens._' This was a signal for mutual confession of distress. We began +immediately to talk of Mr. and Mrs. Cosway, of their goodness, their +talents, their amiability; and though we spoke of nothing else, we +seemed hardly to have entered into the matter, when the coachman +announced the rue St. Denis, and that we were opposite Mr. +Danquerville's. He insisted on descending there, and traversing a short +passage to his lodgings. I was carried home. Seated by my fire-side, +solitary and sad, the following dialogue took place between my Head and +my Heart. + +Head. Well, friend, you seem to be in a pretty trim. + +Heart. I am indeed the most wretched of all earthly beings. Overwhelmed +with grief, every fibre of my frame distended beyond its natural powers +to bear, I would willingly meet whatever catastrophe should leave me no +more to feel, or to fear. + +Head. These are the eternal consequences of your warmth and +precipitation. This is one of the scrapes into which you are ever +leading us. You confess your follies, indeed; but still you hug and +cherish them; and no reformation can be hoped, where there is no +repentance. + +Heart. Oh, my friend! this is no moment to upbraid my foibles. I am rent +into fragments by the force of my grief! If you have any balm, pour it +into my wounds; if none, do not harrow them by new torments. Spare me +in this awful moment! At any other, I will attend with patience to your +admonitions. + +Head. On the contrary, I never found that the moment of triumph, with +you, was the moment of attention to my admonitions. While suffering +under your follies, you may perhaps be made sensible of them; but, the +paroxysm over, you fancy it can never return. Harsh, therefore, as the +medicine may be, it is my office to administer it. You will be pleased +to remember, that when our friend Trumbull used to be telling us of the +merits and talents of these good people, I never ceased whispering to +you that we had no occasion for new acquaintances; that the greater +their merit and talents, the more dangerous their friendship to our +tranquillity, because the regret at parting would be greater. + +Heart. Accordingly, Sir, this acquaintance was not the consequence of my +doings. It was one of your projects, which threw us in the way of it. +It was you, remember, and not I, who desired the meeting at Legrand and +Motinos. I never trouble myself with domes nor arches. The _Halle aux +bleds_ might have rotted down, before I should have gone to see it. But +you, forsooth, who are eternally getting us to sleep with your diagrams +and crotchets, must go and examine this wonderful piece of architecture; +and when you had seen it, oh! it was the most superb thing on earth! +What you had seen there was worth all you had yet seen in Paris! I +thought so too. But I meant it of the lady and gentleman to whom we had +been presented; and not of a parcel of sticks and chips put together +in pens. You then, Sir, and not I, have been the cause of the present +distress. + +Head. It would have been happy for you, if my diagrams and crotchets +had gotten you to sleep on that day, as you are pleased to say they +eternally do. My visit to Legrand and Motinos, had public utility for +its object. A market is to be built in Richmond. What a commodious plan +is that of Legrand and Motinos; especially, if we put on it the noble +dome of the _Halle aux bleds_. If such a bridge as they showed us, can +be thrown across the Schuylkill, at Philadelphia, the floating bridges +taken up, and the navigation of that river opened, what a copious +resource will be added of wood and provisions, to warm and feed the poor +of that city? While I was occupied with these objects, you were dilating +with your new acquaintances, and contriving how to prevent a separation +from them. Every soul of you had an engagement for the day. Yet all +these were to be sacrificed, that you might dine together. Lying +messengers were to be despatched into every quarter of the city, with +apologies for your breach of engagement. You, particularly, had the +effrontery to send word to the Duchess Danville, that on the moment +we were setting out to dine with her, despatches came to hand, which +required immediate attention. You wanted me to invent a more ingenious +excuse; but I knew you were getting into a scrape, and I would have +nothing to do with it. Well; after dinner to St. Cloud, from St. Cloud +to Ruggieri's, from Ruggieri's to Krumfoltz; and if the day had been as +long as a Lapland summer day, you would still have contrived means among +you to have filled it. + +Heart. Oh! my dear friend, how you have revived me, by recalling to mind +the transactions of that day! How well I remember them all, and that +when I came home at night, and looked back to the morning, it seemed to +have been a month agone. Go on, then, like a kind comforter, and paint +to me the day we went to St. Germains. How beautiful was every object! +the _Port de Reuilly_, the hills along the Seine, the rainbows of the +machine of Marly, the terras of St. Germains, the chateaux, the gardens, +the statues of Marly, the pavillion of Lucienne. Recollect, too, Madrid, +Bagatelle, the King's garden, the Desert. How grand the idea excited by +the remains of such a column. The spiral staircase, too, was beautiful. +Every moment was filled with something agreeable. The wheels of time +moved on with a rapidity, of which those of our carriage gave but a +faint idea. And yet, in the evening, when one took a retrospect of the +day, what a mass of happiness had we travelled over! Retrace all those +scenes to me, my good companion, and I will forgive the unkindness with +which you were chiding me. The day we went to St. Germains was a little +too warm, I think; was it not? + +Head. Thou art the most incorrigible of all the beings that ever sinned! +I reminded you of the follies of the first day, intending to deduce from +thence some useful lessons for you, but instead of listening to them, +you kindle at the recollection, you retrace the whole series with a +fondness, which shows you want nothing but the opportunity, to act +it over again. I often told you, during its course, that you were +imprudently engaging your affections, under circumstances that must cost +you a great deal of pain; that the persons, indeed, were of the greatest +merit, possessing good sense, good humor, honest hearts, honest manners, +and eminence in a lovely art; that the lady had, moreover, qualities and +accomplishments belonging to her sex, which might form a chapter +apart for her; such as music, modesty, beauty, and that softness of +disposition, which is the ornament of her sex, and charm of ours: but +that all these considerations would increase the pang of separation, +that their stay here was to be short; that you rack our whole system +when you are parted from those you love, complaining that such a +separation is worse than death, inasmuch as this ends our sufferings, +whereas that only begins them; and that the separation would, in this +instance, be the more severe, as you, would probably never see them +again. + +Heart. But they told me, they would come back again the next year. + +Head. But in the mean time, see what you surfer: and their return, too, +depends on so many circumstances, that, if you had a grain of prudence, +you would not count upon it. Upon the whole, it is improbable, and +therefore you should abandon the idea of ever seeing them again. + +Heart. May Heaven abandon me, if I do! + +Head. Very well. Suppose, then, they come back. They are to stay two +months, and when these are expired, what is to follow? Perhaps you +flatter yourself they may come to America? + +Heart. God only knows what is to happen. I see nothing impossible in +that supposition: and I see things wonderfully contrived sometimes to +make us happy. Where could they find such objects as in America, for +the exercise of their enchanting art; especially the lady, who paints +landscapes so inimitably? She wants only subjects worthy of immortality, +to render her pencil immortal. The Falling Spring, the Cascade of +Niagara, the Passage of the Potomac through the Blue Mountains, the +Natural Bridge; it is worth a voyage across the Atlantic to see these +objects; much more to paint, and make them, and thereby ourselves, known +to all ages. And our own dear Monticello; where has nature spread so +rich a mantle under the eye?--mountains, forests rocks, rivers. With +what majesty do we there ride above the storms! How sublime to look +down into the workhouse of nature to see her clouds, hail, snow, rain, +thunder, all fabricated at our feet! and the glorious sun when rising as +if out of a distant water, lust gilding the tops of the mountains, and +giving life to all nature! 1 hope in God, no circumstance may ever make +either seek an asylum from grief! With what sincere sympathy I would +open every cell of my composition, to receive the effusion of their +woes! + +I would pour my tears into their wounds; and if a drop of balm could be +found on the top of the Cordilleras, or at the remotest sources of the +Missouri, I would go thither myself to seek and to bring it. Deeply +practised in the school of affliction, the human heart knows no joy +which I have not lost, no sorrow of which I have not drank! Fortune can +present no grief of unknown form to me! Who, then, can so softly bind +up the wound of another, as he who has felt the same wound himself? But +Heaven forbid, they should ever know a sorrow! Let us turn over another +leaf, for this has distracted me. + +Head. Well. Let us put this possibility to trial, then, on another +point. When you consider the character which is given of our country +by the lying newspapers of London, and their credulous copyers in other +countries; when you reflect, that all Europe is made to believe we are a +lawless banditti, in a state of absolute anarchy, cutting one another's +throats, and plundering without distinction, how could you expect, that +any reasonable creature would venture among us? + +Heart. But you and I know, that all this is false: that there is not a +country on earth, where there is greater tranquillity; where the laws +are milder, or better obeyed; where every one is more attentive to his +own business, or meddles less with that of others; where strangers +are better received, more hospitably treated, and with a more sacred +respect. + +Head. True, you and I know this, but your friends do not know it. + +Heart. But they are sensible people, who think for themselves. They will +ask of impartial foreigners, who have been among us, whether they saw or +heard on the spot any instance of anarchy. They will judge, too, that a +people occupied, as we are, in opening rivers, digging navigable canals, +making roads, building public schools, establishing academies, erecting +busts and statues to our great men, protecting religious freedom, +abolishing sanguinary punishments, reforming and improving our laws in +general; they will judge, I say, for themselves, whether these are not +the occupations of a people at their ease; whether this is not better +evidence of our true state, than a London newspaper, hired to lie, and +from which no truth can ever be extracted, but by reversing every thing +it says. + +Head. I did not begin this lecture, my friend, with a view to learn from +you what America is doing. Let us return, then, to our point. I wish to +make you sensible how imprudent it is to place your affections without +reserve on objects you must so soon lose, and whose loss, when it comes, +must cost you such severe pangs. Remember the last night. You knew your +friends were to leave Paris to-day. This was enough to throw you into +agonies. All night you tossed us from one side of the bed to the other; +no sleep, no rest. The poor Crippled wrist, too, never left one moment +in the same position; now up, now down, now here, now there; was it +to be wondered at, if its pains returned? The surgeon then was to be +called, and to be rated as an ignoramus, because he could not divine the +cause of this extraordinary change. In fine, my friend, you must mend +your manners. This is not a world to live at random in, as you do. To +avoid those eternal distresses, to which you are for ever exposing +us, you must learn to look forward before you take a step, which may +interest our peace. Every thing in this world is matter of calculation. +Advance, then, with caution, the balance in your hand. Put into one +scale the pleasures which any object may offer; but put fairly into the +other the pains which are to follow, and see which preponderates. The +making an acquaintance is not a matter of indifference. When a new +one is proposed to you, view it all round. Consider what advantages it +presents, and to what inconveniences it may expose you. Do not bite at +the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it. The +art of life is the art of avoiding pain; and he is the best pilot, who +steers clearest of the rocks and shoals with which it is beset. Pleasure +is always before us; but misfortune is at our side: while running after +that, this arrests us. The most effectual means of being secure +against pain, is to retire within ourselves, and to suffice for our own +happiness. Those which depend on ourselves, are the only pleasures a +wise man will count on; for nothing is ours, which another may deprive +us of. Hence the inestimable value of intellectual pleasures. Ever in +our power, always leading us to something new, never cloying, we +ride serene and sublime above the concerns of this mortal world, +contemplating truth and nature, matter and motion, the laws which bind +up their existence, and that Eternal Being, who made and bound them up +by those laws. Let this be our employ. Leave the bustle and tumult of +society to those who have not talents to occupy themselves without them. +Friendship is but another name for an alliance with the follies and +the misfortunes of others. Our own share of miseries is sufficient: why +enter then as volunteers into those of another? Is there so little +gall poured into our cup, that we must heed help to drink that of our +neighbor? A friend dies, or leaves us: we feel as if a limb was cut off. +He is sick: we must watch over him, and participate of his pains. His +fortune is shipwrecked: ours must be laid under contribution. He loses a +child, a parent, or a partner: we must mourn the loss as if it were our +own. + +Heart. And what more sublime delight, than to mingle tears with one whom +the hand of Heaven hath smitten! to watch over the bed of sickness, and +to beguile its tedious and its painful moments! to share our bread with +one to whom misfortune has left none! This world abounds indeed with +misery: to lighten its burthen, we must divide it with one another. But +let us now try the virtue of your mathematical balance, and as you have +put into one scale the burthens of friendship, let me put its comforts +into the other. When languishing then under disease, how grateful is the +solace of our friends! how are we penetrated with their assiduities and +attentions! how much are we supported by their encouragements and kind +offices! When Heaven has taken from us some object of our love, how +sweet is it to have a bosom whereon to recline our heads, and into which +we may pour the torrent of our tears! Grief, with such a comfort, is +almost a luxury! In a life where we are perpetually exposed to want and +accident, yours is a wonderful proposition, to insulate ourselves, +to retire from all aid, and to wrap ourselves in the mantle of +self-sufficiency! For assuredly nobody will care for him, who cares for +nobody. But friendship is precious, not only in the shade, but in the +sunshine of life: and thanks to a benevolent arrangement of things, the +greater part of life is sunshine. I will recur for proof to the days we +have lately passed. On these, indeed, the sun shone brightly! How +gay did the face of nature appear! Hills, valleys, chateaux, gardens, +rivers, every object wore its liveliest hue! Whence did they borrow it? +From the presence of our charming companion. They were pleasing, because +she seemed pleased. Alone, the scene would have been dull and insipid: +the participation of it with her gave it relish. Let the gloomy monk, +sequestered from the world, seek unsocial pleasures in the bottom of his +cell! Let the sublimated philosopher grasp visionary happiness, while +pursuing phantoms dressed in the garb of truth! Their supreme wisdom is +supreme folly: and they mistake for happiness the mere absence of pain. +Had they ever felt the solid pleasure of one generous spasm of the +heart, they would exchange for it all the frigid speculations of their +lives, which you have been vaunting in such elevated terms. Believe +me, then, my friend, that that is a miserable arithmetic, which could +estimate friendship at nothing, or at less than nothing. Respect for +you has induced me to enter into this discussion, and to hear principles +uttered, which I detest and abjure. Respect for myself now obliges me to +recall you into the proper limits of your office. When nature assigned +us the same habitation, she gave us over it a divided empire. To you she +allotted the field of science; to me that of morals. + +When the circle is to be squared, or the orbit of a comet to be traced; +when the arch of greatest strength, or the solid of least resistance is +to be investigated, take up the problem; it is yours; nature has given +me no cognizance of it. In like manner, in denying to you the feelings +of sympathy, of benevolence, of gratitude, of justice, of love, of +friendship, she has excluded you from their control. To these she has +adapted the mechanism of the heart. Morals were too essential to the +happiness of man, to be risked on the uncertain combinations of the +head. She laid their foundation, therefore, in sentiment, not in +science. That she gave to all, as necessary to all: this to a few only, +as sufficing with a few. I know indeed, that you pretend authority to +the sovereign control of our conduct, in all its parts: and a respect +for your grave saws and maxims, a desire to do what is right, has +sometimes induced me to conform to your counsels. A few facts, however, +which I can readily recall to your memory, will suffice to prove to you, +that nature has not organized you for our moral direction. When the poor +wearied soldier, whom we overtook at Chickahominy, with his pack on +his back, begged us to let him get up behind our chariot, you began to +calculate that the road was full of soldiers, and that if all should be +taken up, our horses would fail in their journey. We drove on therefore. +But soon becoming sensible you had made me do wrong, that though we +cannot relieve all the distressed, we should relieve as many as we can, +I turned about to take up the soldier; but he had entered a by-path, +and was no more to be found: and from that moment to this, I could never +find him out to ask his forgiveness. Again, when the poor woman came +to ask a charity in Philadelphia, you whispered, that she looked like +a drunkard, and that half a dollar was enough to give her for the +ale-house. Those who want the dispositions to give, easily find reasons +why they ought not to give. When I sought her out afterwards, and did +what I should have done at first, you know, that she employed the money +immediately towards placing her child at school. If our country, when +pressed with wrongs at the point of the bayonet, had been governed by +its heads instead of its' hearts, where should we have been now? Hanging +on a gallows as high as Hainan's. You began to calculate, and to compare +wealth and numbers: we threw up a few pulsations of our blood; we +supplied enthusiasm against wealth and numbers; we put our existence to +the hazard, when the hazard seemed against us, and we saved our country: +justifying, at the same time, the ways of Providence, whose precept is, +to do always what is right, and leave the issue to him. In short, my +friend, as far as my recollection serves me, I do not know that I ever +did a good thing on your suggestion, or a dirty one without it. I do for +ever, then, disclaim your interference in my province. Fill paper as you +please with triangles and squares: try how many ways you can hang and +combine them together. I shall never envy nor control your sublime +delights. But leave me to decide when and where friendships are to be +contracted. You say I contract them at random. So you said the woman at +Philadelphia was a drunkard. I receive none into my esteem, till I know +they are worthy of it. Wealth, title, office, are no recommendations to +my friendship. On the contrary, great good qualities are requisite to +make amends for their having wealth, title, and office. You confess, +that, in the present case, I could not have made a worthier choice. +You only object, that I was so soon to lose them. We are not immortal +ourselves, my friend; how can we expect our enjoyments to be so? We have +no rose without its thorn; no pleasure without alloy. It is the law of +our existence; and we must acquiesce. It is the condition annexed to all +our pleasures, not by us who receive, but by him who gives them. True, +this condition is pressing cruelly on me at this moment. I feel more fit +for death than life. But when I look back on the pleasures of which +it is the consequence, I am conscious they were worth the price I am +paying. Notwithstanding your endeavors, too, to damp my hopes, I comfort +myself with expectations of their promised return. Hope is sweeter than +despair; and they were too good to mean to deceive me. 'In the summer,' +said the gentleman; but 'In the spring,' said the lady; and I should +love her for ever, were it only for that! Know, then, my friend, that I +have taken these good people into my bosom; that I have lodged them in +the warmest cell I could find; that I love them, and will continue to +love them through life; that if fortune should dispose them on one side +the globe, and me on the other, my affections shall pervade its whole +mass to reach them. Knowing then my determination, attempt not to +disturb it. If you can at any time furnish matter for their amusement, +it will be the office of a good neighbor to do it. I will, in like +manner, seize any occasion which may offer, to do the like good turn for +you with Condorcet, Rittenhouse, Madison, La Cretelle, or any other of +those worthy sons of science, whom you so justly prize. + + +I thought this a favorable proposition whereon to rest the issue of the +dialogue. So I put an end to it by calling for my nightcap. Methinks, I +hear you wish to Heaven I had called a little sooner, and so spared you +the _ennui_ of such a sermon. I did not interrupt them sooner, because +I was in a mood for hearing sermons. You, too, were the subject; and on +such a thesis, I never think the theme long; not even if I am to write +it, and that slowly and awkwardly, as now, with the left hand. But +that you may not be discouraged from a correspondence, which begins +so formidably, I will promise you, on my honor, that my future letters +shall be of a reasonable length. I will even agree to express but half +my esteem for you, for fear of cloying you with too full a dose. But on +your part, no curtailing. If your letters are as long as the Bible, +they will appear short to me. Only let them be brim full of affection. I +shall read them with the dispositions with which Arlequin, in _Les +Deux Billets_, spelt the words '_Je t'aime,_' and wished that the whole +alphabet had entered into their composition. + +We have had incessant rains since your departure. These make me fear for +your health, as well as that you had an uncomfortable journey. The same +cause has prevented me from being able to give you any account of your +friends here. This voyage to Fontainebleau will probably send the Count +de Moutier and the Marquis de Brehan to America. Danquerville promised +to visit me, but has not done it as yet. De la Tude comes sometimes to +take family soup with me, and entertains me with anecdotes of his five +and thirty years' imprisonment. How fertile is the mind of man, which +can make the Bastille and dungeon of Vincennes yield interesting +anecdotes! You know this was for making four verses on Madame de +Pompadour. But I think you told me you did not know the verses. They +were these. + + 'Sans esprit, sans sentiment, + Sans etre belle, ni neuve, + En France on peut avoir le premier amant: + Pompadour en est Tepreuve.' + +I have read the memoir of his three escapes. As to myself, my health is +good, except my wrist, which mends slowly, and my mind, which mends not +at all, but broods constantly over your departure. The lateness of +the season obliges me to decline my journey into the south of France. +Present me in the most friendly terms to Mr. Cosway, and receive me into +your own recollection with a partiality and warmth, proportioned not +to my own poor merit, but to the sentiments of sincere affection and +esteem, with which I have the honor to be, my Dear Madam, + +Your most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXIX.--TO MRS. COSWAY, October 13, 1786 + + +TO MRS. COSWAY. + +Paris, October 13, 1786. + +My Dear Madam, + +Just as I had sealed the enclosed, I received a letter of a good length, +dated Antwerp, with your name at the bottom. I prepared myself for a +feast. I read two or three sentences: looked again at the signature, to +see if I had not mistaken it. It was visibly yours. Read a sentence or +two more. Diable! Spelt your name distinctly. There was not a letter of +it omitted. Began to read again. In fine, after reading a little, and +examining the signature alternately, half a dozen times, I found that +your name was to four lines only, instead of four pages. I thank you +for the four lines, however, because they prove you think of me; little, +indeed, but better little than none. To show how much I think of you, I +send you the enclosed letter of three sheets of paper, being a history +of the evening I parted with you. But how expect you should read a +letter of three mortal sheets of paper? I will tell you. Divide it into +six doses of half a sheet each, and every day, when the toilette begins, +take a dose, that is to say, read half a sheet. By this means, it +will have the only merit its length and dulness can aspire to, that of +assisting your coiffeuse to procure you six good naps of sleep. I will +even allow you twelve days to get through it, holding you rigorously to +one condition only, that is, that at whatever hour you receive this, you +do not break the seal of the enclosed till the next toilette. Of this +injunction I require a sacred execution. I rest it on your friendship, +and that in your first letter, you tell me honestly, whether you have +honestly performed it. I send you the song I promised. Bring me in +return the subject, _Jours heureux!_ Were I a songster, I should sing it +all to these words; '_Dans ces lieux qu'elle tarde a se rendre!_' Learn +it, I pray you, and sing it with feeling. My right hand presents its +devoirs to you, and sees with great indignation the left supplanting it +in a correspondence so much valued. You will know the first moment it +can resume its rights. The first exercise of them shall be addressed to +you, as you had the first essay of its rival. It will yet, however, be +many a day. Present my esteem to Mr. Cosway, and believe me to be yours +very affectionately, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXX.--M. LE ROY DE L'ACADEMIE DES SCIENCES, November 13, 1786 + + +M. LE ROY DE L'ACADEMIE DES SCIENCES. + +Paris, November 13, 1786. + +Sir, + +I received the honor of yours of September the 18th, a day or two after +the accident of a dislocated wrist had disabled me from writing. I have +waited thus long in constant hope of recovering its use. But finding +that this hope walks before me like my shadow, I can no longer oppose +the desire and duty of answering your polite and learned letter. I +therefore employ my left hand in the office of scribe, which it performs +indeed slowly, awkwardly, and badly. + +The information given by me to the Marquis de Chastellux, and alluded to +in his book and in your letter, was, that the sea breezes which prevail +in the lower parts of Virginia, during the summer months, and in the +warm parts of-the day, had made a sensible progress into the interior +country: that formerly, within the memory of persons living, they +extended but little above Williamsburg; that afterwards they became +sensible as high as Richmond; and that, at present, they penetrate +sometimes as far as the first mountains, which are above an hundred +miles further from the sea coast, than Williamsburg is. It is very rare, +indeed, that they reach those mountains, and not till the afternoon is +considerably advanced. A light northwesterly breeze is, for the most +part, felt there, while an easterly or northeasterly wind is blowing +strongly in the lower country. How far northward and southward of +Virginia, this easterly breeze Takes place, I am not informed. I must, +therefore, be understood as speaking of that State only, which extends +on the sea coast from 36 1/2 to 38 deg. of latitude. + +This is the fact. We know too little of the operations of nature in the +physical world, to assign causes with any degree of confidence. Willing +always, however, to guess at what we do not know, I have sometimes +indulged myself with conjectures on the causes of the phenomena above +stated. I will hazard them on paper, for your amusement, premising for +their foundation some principles believed to be true. + +Air resting on a heated and reflecting surface, becomes warmer, rarer, +and lighter: it ascends therefore, and the circumjacent air, which is +colder and heavier, flows into its place, becomes warmed and lightened +in its turn, ascends, and is succeeded as that which went before. If the +heated surface be circular, the air flows to it from every quarter, +like the rays of a circle to its centre. If it be a zone of determinate +breadth and indefinite length, the air will flow from each side +perpendicularly on it. If the currents of air flowing from opposite +sides, be of equal force, they will meet in equilibrio, at a line +drawn longitudinally through the middle of the zone. If one current be +stronger than the other, the stronger one will force back the line of +equilibrium, towards the further edge of the zone, or even beyond it: +the motion it has acquired causing it to overshoot the zone, as the +motion acquired by a pendulum in its descent, causes it to vibrate +beyond the point of its lowest descent. + +Earth, exposed naked to the sun's rays, absorbs a good portion of them; +but, being an opaque body, those rays penetrate to a small depth only. +Its surface, by this accumulation of absorbed rays, becomes considerably +heated. The residue of the rays are reflected into the air resting on +that surface. This air, then, is warmed, 1. by the direct rays of the +sun; 2. by its reflected rays; 3. by contact with the heated surface. +A forest receiving the sun's rays, a part of them enters the intervals +between the trees, and their reflection upwards is intercepted by the +leaves and boughs. The rest fall on the trees, the leaves of which being +generally inclined towards the horizon, reflect the rays downwards. The +atmosphere here, then, receives little or no heat by reflection. Again, +these leaves having a power of keeping themselves cool by their own +transpiration, they impart no heat to the air by contact. Reflection +and contact, then, two of the three modes before-mentioned, of +communicating heat, are wanting here; and, of course, the air over +a country covered by forest must be colder than that over cultivated +grounds. + +The sea being pellucid, the sun's rays penetrate it to a considerable +depth. Being also fluid, and in perpetual agitation, its parts are +constantly mixed together; so that instead of its heat being all +accumulated in its surface, as in the case of a solid, opaque body, +it is diffused through its whole mass. Its surface, therefore, is +comparatively cool, for these reasons; to which may be added that of +evaporation. The small degree of reflection which might otherwise take +place, is generally prevented by the rippled state of its surface. The +air resting on the sea, then, like that resting on a forest, receives +little or no heat by reflection or contact; and is therefore colder than +that which lies over a cultivated country. + +To apply these observations to the phenomena under consideration. The +first settlements of Virginia were made along the sea coast, bearing +from the south, towards the north, a little eastwardly. These +settlements formed a zone, in which, though every point was not cleared +of its forest, yet a good proportion was cleared and cultivated. The +cultivated earth, as the sun advances above the horizon in the morning, +acquires from it an intense heat, which is retained and increased +through the warm parts of the day. The air resting on it becomes warm +in proportion, and rises. On one side is a country still covered with +forest: on the other is the ocean. The colder air from both of these, +then rushes towards the heated zone, to supply the place left vacant +there by the ascent of its warm air. The breeze from the west is light +and feeble; because it traverses a country covered with mountains and +forests, which retard its current. That from the east is strong; as +passing over the ocean, wherein there is no obstacle to its motion. +It is probable, therefore, that this easterly breeze forces itself far +into, or perhaps beyond, the zone which produces it. This zone is, +by the increase of population, continually widening into the interior +country. The line of equilibrium between the easterly and westerly +breezes is, therefore, progressive. + +Did no foreign causes intervene, the sea breezes would be a little +southwardly of the east, that direction being perpendicular to our +coast. But within the tropics, there are winds which blow continually +and strongly from the east. This current affects the course of the air, +even without the tropics. The same cause, too, which produces a strong +motion of the air, from east to west, between the tropics, to wit, the +sun, exercises its influence without those limits, but more feebly, in +proportion as the surface of the globe is there more obliquely presented +to its rays. This effect, though not great, is not to be neglected when +the sun is in or near our summer solstice, which is the season of these +easterly breezes. The northern air, too, flowing towards the equatorial +parts, to supply the vacuum made there by the ascent of their heated +air, has only the small rotary motion of the polar latitudes from which +it comes. Nor does it suddenly acquire the swifter rotation of the parts +into which it enters. This gives it the effect of a motion opposed to +that of the earth, that is to say, of an easterly one. And all these +causes together are known to produce currents of air in the Atlantic, +varying from east to northeast, as far as the fortieth degree of +latitude. It is this current which presses our sea breeze out of its +natural southeasterly direction, to an easterly, and sometimes almost a +northeasterly one. + +We are led naturally to ask, where the progress of our sea breezes will +ultimately be stopped? No confidence can be placed in any answer to +this question. If they should ever pass the mountainous country which +separates the waters of the ocean from those of the Mississippi, there +may be circumstances which might aid their further progress, as far as +the Mississippi. That mountainous country commences about two hundred +miles from the sea coast, and consists of successive ranges passing +from northeast to southwest, and rising the one above the other to the +Allegany Ridge, which is the highest of all. From that, lower and lower +ridges succeed one another again, till having covered, in the whole, a +breadth of two hundred miles from southeast to northwest, they subside +into a plain, fertile country, extending four hundred miles to the +Mississippi, and probably much further on the other side, towards the +heads of the western waters. When this country shall become cultivated, +it will, for the reasons before explained, draw to it winds from +the east and west. In this case, should the sea breezes pass the +intermediate mountains, they will rather be aided than opposed in their +further progress to the Mississippi. There are circumstances, however, +which render it possible that they may not be able to pass those +intermediate mountains. 1. These mountains constitute the highest lands +within the United States. The air on them must consequently be very cold +and heavy, and have a tendency to flow both to the east and west. 2. +Ranging across the current of the sea breezes, they are in themselves, +so many successive barriers opposed to their progress. 3. The country +they occupy is covered with trees, which assist to weaken and spend +the force of the breezes. 4. It will remain so covered; a very small +proportion of it being capable of culture. 5. The temperature of its +air, then, will never be softened by culture. + +Whether in the plain country between the Mississippi and Allegany +mountains, easterly or westerly winds prevail at present, I am not +informed. I conjecture, however, that they must be westerly: and I +think with you, Sir, that if those mountains were to subside into +plain country, as their opposition to the westerly winds would then be +removed, they would repress more powerfully those from the east, and of +course would remove the line of equilibrium nearer to the sea coast for +the present. + +Having had occasion to mention the course of the tropical winds from +east to west, I will add some observations connected with them. They are +known to occasion a strong current in the ocean, in the same direction. +This current breaks on that wedge of land of which Saint Roque is the +point; the southern column of it probably turning off and washing the +coast of Brazil. I say probably, because I have never heard the fact, +and conjecture it from reason only. The northern column, having its +western motion diverted towards the north, and reinforced by the +currents of the great rivers Orinoko, Amazons, and Tocantin, has +probably been the agent which formed the Gulf of Mexico, cutting the +American continent nearly in two, in that part. It re-issues into the +ocean at the northern end of the Gulf, and passes by the name of the +Gulf Stream, all along the coast of the United States, to its northern +extremity. There it turns off eastwardly, having formed by its eddy, at +this turn, the Banks of Newfoundland. Through the whole of its course, +from the Gulf to the Banks, it retains a very sensible warmth. The +Spaniards are, at this time, desirous of trading to their Philippine +Islands, by the way of the Cape of Good Hope: but opposed in it by the +Dutch, under authority of the treaty of Munster, they are examining the +practicability of a common passage through the Straits of Magellan, or +round Cape Horn. Were they to make an opening through the Isthmus of +Panama, a work much less difficult than some even of the inferior canals +of France, however small this opening should be in the beginning, the +tropical current entering it with all its force, would soon widen it +sufficiently for its own passage, and thus complete in a short time, +that work which otherwise will still employ it for ages. Less country, +too, would be destroyed by it in this way. These consequences would +follow. 1. Vessels from Europe or the western coast of Africa, by +entering the tropics, would have a steady wind and tide to carry them +through the Atlantic, through America and the Pacific ocean, to every +part of the Asiatic coast, and of the eastern coast of Africa: thus +performing with speed and safety the tour of the whole globe, to within +about twenty-four degrees of longitude, or one fifteenth part of its +circumference; the African continent, under the line, occupying about +that space. 2. The Gulf of Mexico, now the most dangerous navigation in +the world on account of its currents and moveable sands, would become +stagnant and safe. 3. The Gulf Stream on the coast of the United States +would cease, and with that, those derangements of course and reckoning, +which now impede and endanger the intercourse with those States. 4. The +fogs on the Banks of Newfoundland,* supposed to be the vapors of the +Gulf Stream rendered turbid by cold air, would disappear. 5. Those Banks +ceasing to receive supplies of sand, weeds, and warm water, by the Gulf +Stream, it might become problematical what effect changes of pasture and +temperatures would have on the fisheries. However it is time to +relieve you from this long lecture. I wish its subject may have been +sufficiently interesting to make amends for its details. These are +submitted with entire deference to your better judgment. I will only +add to them, by assuring you of the sentiments of perfect esteem and +respect, with which I have the honor to be, Sir, your most obedient and +most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + [* This ingenious and probable conjecture, I found in a + letter from Dr. Franklin to yourself, published in the late + volume of the American Philosophical Transactions.] + + + + +LETTER XXXI.--TO GENERAL WASHINGTON, November 14, 1786 + + +TO GENERAL WASHINGTON. + +Paris, November 14, 1786. + +Sir, + +The house of Le Coulteux, which for some centuries has been the +wealthiest of this place, has it in contemplation to establish a great +company for the fur trade. They propose that partners interested +one half in the establishment, should be American citizens, born and +residing in the United States. Yet if I understood them rightly, they +expect that the half of the company which resides here, should make the +greatest part, or perhaps the whole of the advances, while those on +our side the water should superintend the details. They had, at first, +thought of Baltimore as the centre of their American transactions. I +have pointed out to them the advantages of Alexandria for this purpose. +They have concluded to take information as to Baltimore, Philadelphia, +and New York, for a principal deposit, and having no correspondent at +Alexandria, have asked me to procure a state of the advantages of that +place, as also to get a recommendation of the best merchant there, to be +adopted as partner and head of the business there. Skill, punctuality, +and integrity are the requisites in such a character. They will decide +on their whole information, as to the place for their principal factory. +Being unwilling that Alexandria should lose its pretensions, I have +undertaken to procure them information as to that place. If they +undertake this trade at all, it will be on so great a scale as to decide +the current of the Indian-trade to the place they adopt. I have no +acquaintance at Alexandria or in its neighborhood; but believing you +would feel an interest in the matter, from the same motives which I do, +I venture to ask the favor of you to recommend to me a proper merchant +for their purpose, and to engage some well informed person to send me a +representation of the advantages of Alexandria, as the principal deposit +of the fur trade. + +The author of the political part of the _Encyclopedie Methodique_ +desired me to examine his article, _Etats Unis_. I did so. I found it +a tissue of errors; for in truth they know nothing about us here. +Particularly, however, the article Cincinnati was a mere philippic +against that institution: in which it appeared that there was an utter +ignorance of facts and motives. I gave him notes on it. He reformed +it, as he supposed, and sent it again to me to revise. In this reformed +state, Colonel Humphreys saw it. + +I found it necessary to write that article for him. Before I gave it to +him, I showed it to the Marquis de la Fayette, who made a correction or +two. I then sent it to the author. He used the materials, mixing a great +deal of his own with them. In a work which is sure of going down to the +latest posterity, I thought it material to set facts to rights, as much +as possible. The author was well disposed; but could not entirely get +the better of his original bias. I send you the article as ultimately +published. If you find any material errors in it, and will be so good +as to inform me of them, I shall probably have opportunities of setting +this author to rights. What has heretofore passed between us on this +institution, makes it my duty to mention to you, that I have never heard +a person in Europe, learned or unlearned, express his thoughts on this +institution, who did not consider it as dishonorable and destructive +to our governments; and that every writing which has come out since +my arrival here, in which it is mentioned, considers it, even as now +reformed, as the germ whose developement is one day to destroy the +fabric we have reared. I did not apprehend this, while I had American +ideas only. But I confess that what I have seen in Europe, has brought +me over to that opinion; and that though the day may be at some +distance, beyond the reach of our lives perhaps, yet it will certainly +come, when a single fibre left of this institution will produce an +hereditary aristocracy, which will change the form of our governments +from the best to the worst in the world. To know the mass of evil which +flows from this fatal source, a person must be in France; he must see +the finest soil, the finest climate, the most compact state, the most +benevolent character of people, and every earthly advantage combined, +insufficient to prevent this scourge from rendering existence a curse to +twenty-four out of twenty-five parts of the inhabitants of this country. +With us, the branches of this institution cover all the states. The +southern ones, at this time, are aristocratical in their dispositions: +and that that spirit should grow and extend itself, is within the +natural order of things. I do not flatter myself with the immortality +of our governments: but I shall think little also of their longevity, +unless this germ of destruction be taken out. When the society +themselves shall weigh the possibility of evil, against the +impossibility of any good to proceed from this institution, I cannot +help hoping they will eradicate it. I know they wish the permanence of +our governments, as much as any individuals composing them. + +An interruption here, and the departure of the gentleman by whom I send +this, oblige me to conclude it with assurances of the sincere respect +and esteem, with which I have the honor to be, Dear Sir, your most +obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXXII.--TO JAMES MADISON, December 16, 1786 + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, December 16, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +After a very long silence, I am at length able to write to you. An +unlucky dislocation of my right wrist has disabled me from using that +hand, three months. I now begin to use it a little, but with great pain; +so that this letter must be taken up at such intervals as the state of +my hand will permit, and will probably be the work of some days. Though +the joint seems to be well set, the swelling does not abate, nor the use +of it return. I am now, therefore, on the point of setting out, to +the south of France, to try the use of some mineral waters there, by +immersion. This journey will be of two or three months. + +I enclose you herein a copy of the letter from the minister of finance +to me, making several advantageous regulations for our commerce. The +obtaining this has occupied us a twelvemonth. I say us, because I find +the Marquis de la Fayette so useful an auxiliary, that acknowledgements +for his co-operation are always due. There remains still something to do +for the articles of rice, turpentine, and ship duties. What can be done +for tobacco when the late regulation expires, is very uncertain. The +commerce between the United States and this country being put on a good +footing, we may afterwards proceed to try if any thing can be done to +favor our intercourse with her colonies. Admission into them for our +fish and flour, is very desirable: but, unfortunately, both those +articles would raise a competition against their own. + +I find by the public papers, that your commercial convention failed in +point of representation. If it should produce a full meeting in May, and +a broader reformation, it will still be well. To make us one nation as +to foreign concerns, and keep us distinct in domestic ones, gives +the outline of the proper division of powers between the general and +particular governments. But to enable the federal head to exercise +the powers given it, to best advantage, it should be organized, as the +particular ones are, into legislative, executive, and judiciary. The +first and last are already separated. The second should be. When last +with Congress, I often proposed to members to do this, by making of +the committee of the States an executive committee during the recess of +Congress, and during its sessions to appoint a committee to receive and +despatch all executive business, so that Congress itself should meddle +only with what should be legislative. But I question if any Congress +(much less all successively) can have self-denial enough to go, through +with this distribution. The distribution, then, should be imposed +on them. I find Congress have reversed their division of the western +States, and proposed to make them fewer and larger. This is reversing +the natural order of things. A tractable people may be governed in large +bodies: but in proportion as they depart from this character, the extent +of their government must be less. We see into what small divisions the +Indians are obliged to reduce their societies. This measure, with the +disposition to shut up the Mississippi, gives me serious apprehensions +of the severance of the eastern and western parts of our confederacy. It +might have been made the interest of the western States to remain united +with us, by managing their interests honestly, and for their own good. +But the moment we sacrifice their interests to our own, they will see +it better to govern themselves. The moment they resolve to do this, +the point is settled. A forced connection is neither our interest, +nor within our power. The Virginia act for religious freedom has been +received with infinite approbation in Europe, and propagated with +enthusiasm. I do not mean by the governments, but by the individuals who +compose them. It has been translated into French and Italian, has been +sent to most of the courts of Europe, and has been the best evidence of +the falsehood of those reports, which stated us to be in anarchy. It +is inserted in the new _Encyclopedie_, and is appearing in most of the +publications respecting America. In fact, it is comfortable to see the +standard of reason at length erected, after so many ages, during which +the human mind has been held in vassalage by kings, priests, and nobles: +and it is honorable for us to have produced the first legislature who +had the courage to declare, that the reason of man may be trusted with +the formation of his own opinions. + +***** + +I thank you for your communications in Natural History. The several +instances of trees, &c. found far below the surface of the earth, as in +the case of Mr. Hay's well, seem to set the reason of man at defiance. + +I am, Dear Sir, with sincere esteem, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXXIII.--TO CHARLES THOMSON, December 17,1780 + + +TO CHARLES THOMSON. + +Paris, December 17,1780. + +Dear Sir, + +A dislocation of my right wrist has for three months past disabled me +from writing, except with my left hand, which was too slow and awkward +to be employed often. I begin to have so much use of my wrist as to be +able to write, but it is slowly, and in pain. I take the first moment +I can, however, to acknowledge the receipt of your letters of April the +6th, July the 8th and 30th. In one of these, you say you have not +been able to learn, whether, in the new mills in London, steam is the +immediate mover of the machinery, or raises water to move it. It is the +immediate mover. The power of this agent, though long known, is but +now beginning to be applied to the various purposes of which it is +susceptible. You observe, that Whitehurst supposes it to have been the +agent, which bursting the earth, threw it up into mountains and vallies. +You ask me what I think of this book. I find in it many interesting +facts brought together, and many ingenious commentaries on them. But +there are great chasms in his facts, and consequently in his reasoning, +These he fills up by suppositions, which may be as reasonably denied +as granted. A sceptical reader, therefore, like myself, is left in the +lurch. I acknowledge, however, he makes more use of fact, than any other +writer on a theory of the earth. But I give one answer to all these +theorists. That is as follows. They all suppose the earth a created +existence. They must suppose a creator then; and that he possessed +power and wisdom to a great degree. As he intended the earth for the +habitation of animals and vegetables, is it reasonable to suppose, he +made two jobs of his creation, that he first made a chaotic lump, +and set it into rotatory motion, and then waited the millions of ages +necessary to form itself? That when it had done this, he stepped in a +second time, to create the animals and plants which were to inhabit it? +As the hand of a creator is to be called in, it may as well be called +in at one stage of the process as another. We may as well suppose he +created the earth at once, nearly in the state in which we see it, fit +for the preservation of the beings he placed on it. But it is said, we +have a proof that he did not create it in its present solid form, but in +a state of fluidity: because its present shape of an oblate spheroid is +precisely that, which a fluid mass revolving on its axis would assume. + +I suppose, that the same equilibrium between gravity and centrifugal +force, which would determine a fluid mass into the form of an oblate +spheroid, would determine the wise creator of that mass, if he made it +in a solid state, to give it the same spheroidical form. A revolving +fluid will continue to change its shape, till it attains that in which +its principles of contrary motion are balanced. For if you suppose them +not balanced, it will change its form. Now the same balanced form +is necessary for the preservation of a revolving solid. The creator, +therefore, of a revolving solid, would make it an oblate spheroid, that +figure alone admitting a perfect equilibrium. He would make it in that +form, for another reason; that is, to prevent a shifting of the axis of +rotation. Had he created the earth perfectly spherical, its axis might +have been perpetually shifting, by the influence of the other bodies +of the system; and by placing the inhabitants of the earth successively +under its poles, it might have been depopulated; whereas, being +spheroidical, it has but one axis on which it can revolve in equilibrio. +Suppose the axis of the earth to shift forty-five degrees; then cut it +into one hundred and eighty slices, making every section in the plane +of a circle of latitude, perpendicular to the axis: every one of these +slices, except the equatorial one, would be unbalanced, as there would +be more matter on one side of its axis than on the other. There could be +but one diameter drawn through such a slice, which would divide it into +two equal parts. On every other possible diameter, the parts would hang +unequal. This would produce an irregularity in the diurnal rotation. +We may, therefore, conclude it impossible for the poles of the earth +to shift, if it was made spheroidical; and that it would be made +spheroidical, though solid, to obtain this end. I use this reasoning +only on the supposition, that the earth has had a beginning. I am sure I +shall read your conjectures on this subject with great pleasure, though +I bespeak beforehand, a right to indulge my natural incredulity and +scepticism. The pain in which I write, awakens me here from my reverie, +and obliges me to conclude with compliments to Mrs. Thomson, and +assurances to yourself of the esteem and affection with which I am +sincerely, Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + +P. S. Since writing the preceding, I have had a conversation on the +subject of the steam-mills, with the famous Boulton, to whom those of +London belong, and who is here at this time. He compares the effect of +steam with that of horses, in the following manner. Six horses, aided +with the most advantageous combination of the mechanical powers hitherto +tried, will grind six bushels of flour in an hour; at the end of which +time they are all in a foam, and must rest. They can work thus six hours +in the twenty-four, grinding thirty-six bushels of flour, which is +six to each horse, for the twenty-four hours. His steam-mill in London +consumes one hundred and twenty bushels of coal in twenty-four hours, +turns ten pair of stones, which grind eight bushels of flour an hour +each, which is nineteen hundred and twenty bushels in the twenty-four +hours. This makes a peck and a half of coal perform exactly as much as a +horse in one day can perform. + + + + +LETTER XXXIV.--TO COLONEL MONROE, December 18, 1786 + + +TO COLONEL MONROE. + +Paris, December 18, 1786. + +Dear Sir, + +Your letters of August the 19th and October the 12th have come duly to +hand. My last to you was of the 11th of August. Soon after that date I +got my right wrist dislocated, which has till now deprived me of the use +of that hand; and even now I can use it but slowly, and with pain. The +revisal of the Congressional intelligence contained in your letters, +makes me regret the loss of it on your departure. I feel, too, the +want of a person there to whose discretion I can trust confidential +communications, and on whose friendship I can rely against the unjust +designs of malevolence. I have no reason to suppose I have enemies in +Congress; yet it is too possible, to be without that fear. Some +symptoms make me suspect, that my proceedings to redress the abusive +administration of tobacco by the Farmers General have indisposed towards +me a powerful person in Philadelphia, who was profiting from that abuse. +An expression in the enclosed letter of M. de Calonne, would seem to +imply, that I had asked the abolition of Mr. Morris's contract. I never +did. On the contrary, I always observed to them, that it would be unjust +to annul that contract. I was led to this, by principles both of justice +and interest. Of interest, because that contract would keep up the price +of tobacco here to thirty-four, thirty-six, and thirty-eight livres, +from which it will fall when it shall no longer have that support. +However, I have done what was right, and I will not so far wound my +privilege of doing that, without regard to any man's interest, as to +enter into any explanations of this paragraph with him. Yet I esteem him +highly, and suppose that hitherto he had esteemed me. You will see by +Calonne's letter, that we are doing what we can to get the trade of the +United States put on a good footing. I am now about setting out on +a journey to the south of France, one object of which is to try the +mineral waters there for the restoration of my hand; but another is, +to visit all the seaports where we have trade, and to hunt up all the +inconveniences under which it labors, in order to get them rectified. +I shall visit, and carefully examine too, the canal of Languedoc. On +my return, which will be early in the spring, I shall send you several +_livraisons_ of the _Encyclopedie_, and the plan of your house. I wish +to Heaven, you may continue in the disposition to fix it in Albemarle. +Short will establish himself there, and perhaps Madison may be tempted +to do so. This will be society enough, and it will be the great +sweetener of our lives. Without society, and a society to our taste, +men are never contented. The one here supposed, we can regulate to our +minds, and we may extend our regulations to the sumptuary department, +so as to set a good example to a country which needs it, and to preserve +our own happiness clear of embarrassment. You wish not to engage in the +drudgery of the bar. You have two asylums from that. Either to accept +a seat in the Council, or in the judiciary department. The latter, +however, would require a little previous drudgery at the bar, to qualify +you to discharge your duty with satisfaction to yourself. Neither of +these would be inconsistent with a continued residence in Albemarle. It +is but twelve hours drive in a sulky from Charlottesville to Richmond, +keeping a fresh horse always at the half-way, which would be a small +annual expense. I am in hopes, that Mrs. M. will have in her domestic +cares occupation and pleasure sufficient to fill her time, and insure +her against the _tedium vitae_: that she will find, that the distractions +of a town, and the waste of life under these, can bear no comparison +with the tranquil happiness of domestic life. If her own experience has +not yet taught her this truth, she has in its favor the testimony of +one, who has gone through the various scenes of business, of bustle, of +office, of rambling, and of quiet retirement, and who can assure her, +that the latter is the only point upon which the mind can settle at +rest. Though not clear of inquietudes, because no earthly situation +is so, they are fewer in number, and mixed with more objects of +contentment, than in any other mode of life. But I must not philosophize +too much with her, lest I give her too serious apprehensions of a +friendship I shall impose on her. I am with very great esteem, Dear Sir, +your sincere friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXXV.--TO MR. CARMICHAEL, December 26,1786 + + +TO MR. CARMICHAEL. + +Paris, December 26,1786. + +Dear Sir, + +A note from me of the 22nd of September apprized you it would be some +time before I should be able to answer your letters. I did not then +expect it would have been so long. + +I enclose herein a resolution of Congress recalling Mr. Lambe, which I +will beg the favor of you to have delivered him. I have written to Mr. +Adams on the subject of directing him to settle with Mr. Barclay, and +attend his answer. In the mean time, I am not without hopes Mr. Barclay +has done the business. I send also a note desiring Mr. Lambe to deliver +you his cipher: and a copy of a letter from the minister of finance here +to me, announcing several regulations in favor of our commerce. + +My Notes on Virginia, having been hastily written, need abundance of +corrections. Two or three of these are so material, that I am reprinting +a few leaves to substitute for the old. As soon as these shall be ready, +I will beg your acceptance of a copy. I shall be proud to be permitted +to send a copy also to the Count de Campomanes, as a tribute to his +science and his virtues. You will find in them, that the Natural Bridge +has found an admirer in me also. I should be happy to make with you the +tour of the curiosities you will find therein mentioned. That kind of +pleasure surpasses much, in my estimation, whatever I find on this side +the Atlantic. I sometimes think of building a little hermitage at the +Natural Bridge (for it is my property), and of passing there a part of +the year at least. + +I have received American papers to the 1st of November. Some tumultuous +meetings of the people have taken place in the eastern States; i.e. one +in Massachusetts, one in Connecticut, and one in New Hampshire. Their +principal demand was a respite in the judiciary proceedings. No injury +was done, however, in a single instance, to the person or property +of any one, nor did the tumult continue twenty-four hours in any one +instance. In Massachusetts this was owing to the discretion which the +malcontents still preserved; in Connecticut and New Hampshire the body +of the people rose in support of government, and obliged the malcontents +to go to their homes. In the last mentioned State they seized about +forty, who were in jail for trial. It is believed this incident will +strengthen our government. Those people are not entirely without excuse. +Before the war these States depended on their whale-oil and fish. +The former was consumed in England, and much of the latter in the +Mediterranean. The heavy duties on American whale-oil, now required in +England, exclude it from that market: and the Algerines exclude them +from bringing their fish into the Mediterranean. France is opening +her ports for their oil, but in the mean while their ancient debts are +pressing them, and they have nothing to pay with. The Massachusetts +Assembly, too, in their zeal for paying their public debt, had laid +a tax too heavy to be paid, in the circumstances of their State. The +Indians seem disposed, too, to make war on us. These complicated causes +determined Congress to increase their forces to two thousand men. The +latter was the sole object avowed, yet the former entered for something +into the measure. However, I am satisfied the good sense of the people +is the strongest army our governments can ever have, and that it will +not fail them. The commercial convention at Annapolis was not full +enough to do business. They found, too, their appointments too narrow, +being confined to the article of commerce. They have proposed a meeting +at Philadelphia in May, and that it may be authorized to propose +amendments of whatever is defective in the federal constitution. + +When I was in England, I formed a portable copying press, on the +principles of the large one they make there, for copying letters. I had +a model made there, and it has answered perfectly. A workman here has +made several from that model. The itinerant temper of your court will, I +think, render one of these useful to you. You must, therefore, do me the +favor to accept of one. I have it now in readiness, and shall send it +by the way of Bayonne, to the care of Mr. Alexander there, unless Don +Miguel de Lardi-zabal can carry it with him. + +My hand admonishes me it is time to stop, and that I must defer writing +to Mr. Barclay till to-morrow. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the highest esteem and +respect, + +Dear Sir, your most obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXXVI.--TO MR. VAUGHAN, December 29, 1786 + + +TO MR. VAUGHAN. + +Paris, December 29, 1786. + +Sir, + +When I had the honor of seeing you in London, you were so kind as to +permit me to trouble you, sometimes with my letters, and particularly +on the subject of mathematical or philosophical instruments. Such a +correspondence will be too agreeable to me, and at the same time too +useful, not to avail myself of your permission. It has been an opinion +pretty generally received among philosophers, that the atmosphere of +America is more humid than that of Europe. Monsieur de Buffon makes this +hypothesis one of the two pillars whereon he builds his system of the +degeneracy of animals in America. Having had occasion to controvert this +opinion of his, as to the degeneracy of animals there, I expressed a +doubt of the fact assumed, that our climates are more moist. I did not +know of any experiments, which might authorize a denial of it. Speaking +afterwards on the subject with Dr. Franklin, he mentioned to me the +observations he had made on a case of magnets, made for him by Mr. +Nairne in London. Of these you will see a detail in the second volume of +the American Philosophical Transactions, in a letter from Dr. Franklin +to Mr. Nairne, wherein he recommends to him to take up the principle +therein explained, and endeavor to make an hygrometer, which, taking +slowly the temperature of the atmosphere, shall give its mean degree of +moisture, and enable us thus to make with more certainty a comparison +between the humidities of different climates. May I presume to trouble +you with an inquiry of Mr. Nairne, whether he has executed the +Doctor's idea; and if he has, to get him to make for me a couple of +the instruments he may have contrived. They should be made of the same +piece, and under like circumstances, that sending one to America, I may +rely on its indications there, compared with those of the one I shall +retain here. Being in want of a set of magnets also, I would be glad +if he would at the same time send me a set, the case of which should be +made as Dr. Franklin describes his to have been, so that I may repeat +his experiment. Colonel Smith will do me the favor to receive these +things from Mr. Nairne, and to pay him for them. + +I think Mr. Rittenhouse never published an invention of his in this +way, which was a very good one. It was of an hygrometer, which, like +the common ones, was to give the actual moisture of the air. He has +two slips of mahogany about five inches long, three fourths of an inch +broad, and one tenth of an inch thick, the one having the grain running +lengthwise, and the other crosswise. These are glued together by their +faces, so as to form a piece five inches long, three fourths of an inch +broad, and one third of an inch thick, which is stuck by its lower end +into a little plinth of wood, presenting their edge to the view. The +fibres of the wood you know are dilated, but not lengthened by moisture. +The slip, therefore, whose grain is lengthwise, becomes a standard, +retaining always the same precise length. That which has its grain +crosswise, dilates with moisture, and contracts for the want of it. +If the right hand piece be the cross-grained one, when the air is very +moist, it lengthens, and forces its companion to form a kind of interior +annulus of a circle on the left. When the air is dry, it contracts, +draws its companion to the right, and becomes itself the interior +annulus. In order to show this dilation and contraction, an index is +fixed on the upper end of the two slips; a plate of metal or wood is +fastened to the front of the plinth, so as to cover the two slips from +the eye. A slit, being nearly the portion of a circle, is cut in this +plate, so that the shank of the index may play freely through its whole +range. On the edge of the slit is a graduation. The objection to this +instrument is, that it is not fit for comparative observations, because +no two pieces of wood being of the same texture exactly, no two will +yield exactly alike to the same agent. However, it is less objectionable +on this account, than most of the substances used. Mr. Rittenhouse had +a thought of trying ivory: but I do not know whether he executed it. All +these substances not only vary from one another at the same time, but +from themselves at different times. All of them, however, have some +peculiar advantages, and I think this, on the whole, appeared preferable +to any other I had ever seen. Not knowing whether you had heard of this +instrument, and supposing it would amuse you, I have taken the liberty +of detailing it to you. + +I beg you to be assured of the sentiments of perfect esteem and respect +with which I have the honor to be, Sir, your most obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXXVII.--TO JOHN JAY, December 31, 1786 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, December 31, 1786 + +Sir, + +I had the honor of addressing you on the 12th of the last month; since +which your favor of October the 12th has been received, enclosing a copy +of the resolution of Congress for recalling Mr. Lambe. My letter by Mr. +Randall informed you, that we had put an end to his powers, and required +him to repair to Congress. I lately received a letter from him, dated +Alicant, October the 10th, of which I have the honor to enclose you a +copy: by which you will perceive, that the circumstance of ill health, +either true or false, is urged for his not obeying our call. I shall +immediately forward the order of Congress. I am not without fear, that +some misapplication of the public money may enter into the causes of +his declining to return. The moment that I saw a symptom of this in +his conduct, as it was a circumstance which did not admit the delay +of consulting Mr. Adams, I wrote to Mr. Carmichael, to stop any monies +which he might have in the hands of his banker. I am still unable to +judge whether he is guilty of this or not, as by the arrangements with +Mr. Adams, who alone had done business with the bankers of the United +States, in Holland, Mr. Lambe's drafts were to be made on him, and +I know not what their amount has been. His drafts could not have been +negotiated, if made on us both, at places so distant. Perhaps it may be +thought, that the appointment of Mr. Lambe was censurable in the moment +in which it was made. It is a piece of justice, therefore, which I owe +to Mr. Adams, to declare that the proposition went first from me to him. +I take the liberty of enclosing you a copy of my letter to Mr. Adams, +of September the 24th, 1785, in which that proposition was made. It +expresses the motives operating on my mind in that moment, as well as +the cautions I thought it necessary to take. To these must be added the +difficulty of finding an American in Europe fit for the business, and +willing to undertake it. I knew afterwards, that Dr. Bancroft (who is +named in the letter) could not, on account of his own affairs, have +accepted even a primary appointment. I think it evident, that no +appointment could have succeeded without a much greater sum of money. + +I am happy to find that Mr. Barclay's mission has been attended with +complete success. For this we are indebted, unquestionably, to the +influence and good offices of the court of Madrid. Colonel Franks, the +bearer of this, will have the honor to put into your hands the original +of the treaty, with other papers accompanying it. It will appear +by these, that Mr. Barclay has conducted himself with a degree of +intelligence and of good faith which reflects the highest honor on him. + +A copy of a letter from Captain O'Bryan to Mr. Carmichael is also +herewith enclosed. The information it contains will throw farther light +on the affairs of Algiers. His observations on the difficulties which +arise from the distance of Mr. Adams and myself from that place, and +from one another, and the delays occasioned by this circumstance, are +certainly just. If Congress should propose to revive the negotiations, +they will judge whether it will not be more expedient to send a person +to Algiers, who can be trusted with full powers: and also whether a +mission to Constantinople may not be previously necessary. Before I quit +this subject, I must correct an error in the letter of Captain O'Bryan. +Mr. Lambe was not limited, as he says, to one hundred, but to two +hundred dollars apiece for our prisoners. This was the price which had +been just paid for a large number of French prisoners, and this was our +guide. + +I have the honor to be, with the most perfect esteem and respect, Sir, +your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXXVIII.--TO SAMUEL OSGOOD, January 5, 1787 + + +TO SAMUEL OSGOOD. + +Paris, January 5, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I am desired to forward to you the enclosed queries, and to ask the +favor of you to give such an answer to them, as may not give you too +much trouble. Those which stand foremost on the paper, can be addressed +only to your complaisance; but the last may possibly be interesting to +your department, and to the United States. I mean those which suggest +the possibility of borrowing money in Europe, the principal of which +shall be ultimately payable in land, and in the mean time, a good +interest. You know best whether the suggestion can be turned to any +profit, and whether it will be worth while to introduce any proposition +to Congress thereon. Among the possible shapes into which a matter of +this kind may be formed, the following is one. Let us suppose the public +lands to be worth a dollar, hard money, the acre. If we should ask of a +monied man a loan of one hundred dollars, payable with one hundred +acres of land at the end of ten years, and in the mean time, carrying +an interest of five per cent., this would be more disadvantageous to the +lender than a common loan, payable ultimately in cash. But if we should +say, we will deliver you the one hundred acres of land immediately, +which is in fact an immediate payment of the principal, and will +nevertheless pay your interest of five per cent., for ten years, this +offers a superior advantage, and might tempt money-holders. But what +should we in fact receive, in this way, for our lands? Thirty-seven +dollars and one fourth, being left in Europe, on an interest of five per +cent., would pay annually the interest of the one hundred dollars for +ten years. There would remain then only sixty-two dollars and three +quarters, for the one hundred acres of land; that is to say, about +two thirds of its price. Congress can best determine, whether any +circumstances in our situation, should induce us to get rid of any of +our debts in that way. I beg you to understand, that I have named rates +of interest, term of payment and price of land, merely to state the +case, and without the least knowledge that a loan could be obtained on +these terms. It remains to inform you, from whom this suggestion comes. +The person from whom I receive it, is a Monsieur Claviere, connected +with the monied men of Amsterdam. He is, on behalf of a company there, +actually treating with the Comptroller General here, for the purchase of +our debt to this country, at a considerable discount. Whether he has an +idea of offering a loan to us, on terms such as I have above spoken of, +I know not; nor do I know that he is authorized to make the suggestion +he has made. If the thing should be deemed worthy the attention of +Congress, they can only consider it as a possibility, and take measures +to avail themselves of it, if the possibility turns out in their favor, +and not to be disappointed if it does not. Claviere's proposition not +being formal enough for me to make an official communication of it, you +will make what use of it you see best. + +I am, with very sincere esteem and attachment, Dear Sir, your most +obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XXXIX.--TO JOHN JAY, January 9, 1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, January 9, 1787. + +Sir, + +My last, of December the 31st, acknowledged the receipt of yours of +October the 12th, as the present does those of October the 3rd, 9th, and +27th, together with the resolution of Congress of October the 16th, +on the claim of Schweighaeuser. I will proceed in this business on +the return of Mr. Barclay, who being fully acquainted with all the +circumstances, will be enabled to give me that information, the want of +which might lead me to do wrong on the one side or the other. + +Information of the signature of the treaty with Morocco has been long on +its passage to you. I will beg leave to recur to dates, that you may see +that no part of it has been derived from me. The first notice I had +of it, was in a letter from Mr. Barclay, dated, Daralbeyda, August the +11th. I received this on the 13th of September. No secure conveyance +offered till the 26th of the same month, being thirteen days after +my receipt of it. In my letter of that date, which went by the way of +London, I had the honor to enclose you a copy of Mr. Barclay's letter. +The conveyance of the treaty itself is suffering a delay here at +present, which all my anxiety cannot prevent. Colonel Franks' baggage, +which came by water from Cadiz to Rouen, has been long and hourly +expected. The moment it arrives, he will set out to London, to have +duplicates of the treaty signed by Mr. Adams, and from thence he will +proceed to New York. + +The Chevalier del Pinto, who treated with us on behalf of Portugal, +being resident at London, I have presumed that causes of the delay of +that treaty had been made known to Mr. Adams, and by him communicated +to you. I will write to him by Colonel Franks, in order that you may be +answered on that subject. + +The publication of the enclosed extract from my letter of May the 27th, +1786, will, I fear, have very mischievous effects. It will tend to +draw on the Count de Vergennes the formidable phalanx of the Farms; to +prevent his committing himself to me in any conversation which he does +not mean for the public papers; to inspire the same diffidence into all +other ministers, with whom I might have to transact business; to defeat +the little hope, if any hope existed, of getting rid of the Farm on the +article of tobacco; and to damp that freedom of, communication which +the resolution of Congress of May the 3rd, 1784, was intended to +re-establish. Observing by the proceedings of Congress, that they are +about to establish a coinage, I think it my duty to inform them, that a +Swiss, of the name of Drost, established here, has invented a method of +striking the two faces and the edge of a coin, at one stroke. By this, +and other simplifications of the process of coinage, he is enabled to +coin from twenty-five thousand to thirty thousand pieces a day, with +the assistance of only two persons, the pieces of metal being first +prepared. I send you by Colonel Franks three coins of gold, silver, and +copper, which you will perceive to be perfect medals: and I can assure +you, from having seen him coin many, that every piece is as perfect as +these. There has certainly never yet been seen any coin, in any country, +comparable to this. The best workmen in this way acknowledge that his +is like a new art. Coin should always be made in the highest perfection +possible, because it is a great guard against the danger of false +coinage. This man would be willing to furnish his implements to +Congress, and if they please, he will go over and instruct a person to +carry on the work: nor do I believe he would ask any thing unreasonable. +It would be very desirable, that in the institution of a new coinage, +we could set out on so perfect a plan as this, and the more so, as while +the work is so exquisitely done, it is done cheaper. + +I will certainly do the best I can for the reformation of the consular +convention, being persuaded that our States would be very unwilling to +conform their laws either to the convention, or to the scheme. But it +is too difficult and too delicate, to form sanguine hopes. However, that +there may be room to reduce the convention, as much as circumstances +will admit, will it not be expedient for Congress to give me powers, +in which there shall be no reference to the scheme? The powers sent +me, oblige me to produce that scheme, and certainly, the moment it is +produced, they will not abate a tittle from it. If they recollect the +scheme, and insist on it, we can but conclude it; but if they have +forgotten it (which may be), and are willing to reconsider the whole +subject, perhaps we may get rid of something the more of it. As the +delay is not injurious to us, because the convention, whenever and +however made, is to put us in a worse state than we are in now, I shall +venture to defer saying a word on the subject, till I can hear from +you in answer to this. The full powers may be sufficiently guarded, by +private instructions to me, not to go beyond the former scheme. This +delay may be well enough ascribed (whenever I shall have received new +powers) to a journey, I had before apprized the minister that I should +be obliged to take, to some mineral waters in the south of France, to +see if by their aid I may recover the use of my right hand, of which a +dislocation about four months ago, threatens to deprive me in a great +measure. The surgeons have long insisted on this measure. I shall return +by Bordeaux, Nantes, and L'Orient, to get the necessary information for +finishing our commercial regulations here. Permit me, however, to ask, +as immediately as possible, an answer, either affirmative or negative, +as Congress shall think best, and to ascribe the delay on which I +venture, to my desire to do what is for the best. + +I send you a copy of the late marine regulations of this country. There +are things in it, which may become interesting to us. Particularly, +what relates to the establishment of a marine militia, and their +classification. + +You will have seen in the public papers, that the King has called an +Assembly of the Notables of this country. This has not been done for one +hundred and sixty years past. Of course, it calls up all the attention +of the people. The objects of this Assembly are not named: several are +conjectured. The tolerating the Protestant religion; removing all the +internal Custom-houses to the frontier; equalizing the _gabelles_ on +salt through the kingdom; the sale of the King's domains, to raise +money; or, finally, the effecting this necessary end by some other +means, are talked of. But, in truth, nothing is known about it. This +government practises secrecy so systematically, that it never publishes +its purposes or its proceedings, sooner or more extensively than +necessary. I send you a pamphlet, which, giving an account of the last +_Assemblee des Notable_, may give an idea of what the present will be. + +A great desire prevails here of encouraging manufactures. The famous +Boulton and Watt, who are at the head of the plated manufactures +of Birmingham, the steam mills of London, copying presses and other +mechanical works, have been here. It is said, also, that Wedgewood has +been here, who is famous for his steel manufactories, and an earthen +ware in the antique style; but as to this last person, I am not certain. +It cannot, I believe be doubted, but that they came at the request +of government, and that they will be induced to establish similar +manufactures here. + +The transferring hither those manufactures, which contribute so much to +draw our commerce to England, will have a great tendency to strengthen +our connections with this country, and loosen them with that. + +The enfranchising the port of Honfleur at the mouth of the Seine, for +multiplying the connections with us, is at present an object. It meets +with opposition in the ministry; but I am in hopes it will prevail. +If natural causes operate, uninfluenced by accidental circumstances, +Bordeaux and Honfleur, or Havre, must ultimately take the greatest part +of our commerce. The former, by the Garonne and canal of Languedoc, +opens the southern provinces to us; the latter, the northern ones and +Paris. Honfleur will be peculiarly advantageous for our rice and whale +oil, of which the principal consumption is at Paris. Being free, they +can be re-exported when the market here shall happen to be overstocked. + +The labors of the ensuing summer will close the eastern half of the +harbor of Cherbourg, which will contain and protect forty sail of the +line. It has from fifty to thirty-five feet of water next to the +cones, shallowing gradually to the shore. Between this and Dunkirk, the +navigation of the channel will be rendered much safer in the event of a +war with England, and invasions on that country become more practicable. + +The gazettes of France and Leyden, to the present date, accompany this. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect respect, +Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XL.--TO JOHN ADAMS, January 11, 1787 + + +TO JOHN ADAMS. + +Paris, January 11, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +Mr. Jay, in his last letter to me, observes they hear nothing further of +the treaty with Portugal. I have taken the liberty of telling him that +I will write to you on the subject, and that he may expect to hear from +you on it, by the present conveyance. The Chevalier del Pinto being at +London, I presume he has, or can inform you why it is delayed on their +part. I will thank you also for the information he shall give you. + +There is here an order of priests called the Mathurins, the object +of whose institution is, the begging of alms for the redemption of +captives. About eighteen months ago, they redeemed three hundred, +which cost them about fifteen hundred livres a piece. They have agents +residing in the Barbary States, who are constantly employed in searching +and contracting for the captives of their nation, and they redeem at +a lower price than any other people can. It occurred to me, that +their agency might be engaged for our prisoners at Algiers. I have had +interviews with them, and the last night a long one with the General +of the order. They offer their services with all the benignity and +cordiality possible. The General told me, he could not expect to redeem +our prisoners as cheap as their own, but that he would use all the means +in his power to do it on the best terms possible, which will be the +better, as there shall be the less suspicion that he acts for our +public. I told him I would write to you on the subject, and speak to him +again. What do you think of employing them, limiting them to a certain +price, as three hundred dollars, for instance, or any other sum you +think proper? He will write immediately to his instruments there, and +in two or three months we can know the event. He will deliver them +at Marseilles, Cadiz, or where we please, at our expense. The money +remaining of the fund destined to the Barbary business, may, I suppose, +be drawn on for this object. Write me your opinion, if you please, on +this subject, finally, fully, and immediately, that, if you approve the +proposition, I may enter into arrangements with the General before my +departure to the waters of Aix, which will be about the beginning of +February, + +I have the honor to be, with very sincere esteem and respect, Dear Sir, +your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XLI.--TO MONSIEUR LE DUC D'HARCOURT, January 14, 1787 + + +TO MONSIEUR LE DUC D'HARCOURT, GOUVERNEUR DU DAUPHIN. + +Paris, January 14, 1787. + +Sir, + +In the conversation with which you were pleased to honor me a few days +ago, on the enfranchisement of the port of Honfleur, I took the liberty +of observing, that I was not instructed by my constituents to make +any proposition on that subject. That it would be agreeable to them, +however, I must suppose, because it will offer the following advantages. + +1. It is a convenient _entrepot_ for furnishing us with the manufactures +of the northern parts of France, and particularly of Paris, and for +receiving and distributing the productions of our country in exchange. + +2. Cowes, on the opposite side of the channel, has heretofore been the +deposite for a considerable part of our productions, landed in Great +Britain in the first instance, but intended for re-exportation. From +thence our rice, particularly, has been distributed to France and other +parts of Europe. I am not certain, whether our tobaccos were deposited +there, or carried to London to be sorted for the different markets. +To draw this business from Cowes, no place is so favorably situated as +Honfleur. + +3. It would be a convenient deposite for our whale-oil, of which, after +the supply of Paris, there will be a surplus for re-exportation. + +4. Should our fur-trade be recovered out of the hands of the English, it +will naturally come to Honfleur, as the out-port of Paris. + +5. Salt is an important article in all our return cargoes; because, +being carried as ballast, its freight costs nothing. But on account +of some regulations, with which I am not well acquainted, it cannot at +present be shipped to advantage from any port on the Seine. + +6. Our vessels being built sharp, for swift sailing, suffer extremely +in most of the western ports of France, in which they are left on dry +ground at every ebb of the tide. But at Honfleur, I am told, they can +ride in bold water, on a good bottom, and near the shore, at all times. + +These facts may, perhaps, throw some light on the question in which, for +the good of both countries, you are pleased to interest yourself. I take +the liberty, therefore, of barely mentioning them, and with the more +pleasure, as it furnishes me an occasion of assuring you of those +sentiments of respect and esteem, with which I have the honor to be your +most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XLII.--TO MONSIEUR DE CREVE-COEUR, January 15,1787 + + +TO MONSIEUR DE CREVE-COEUR. + +Paris, January 15,1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I see by the Journal of this morning, that they are robbing us of +another of our inventions, to give it to the English. The writer, +indeed, only admits them to have revived what he thinks was known to the +Greeks, that is, the making the circumference of a wheel of one single +piece. The farmers in New Jersey were the first who practised it, and +they practised it commonly. Dr. Franklin, in one of his trips to London, +mentioned this practice to the man now in London, who has the patent for +making those wheels. The idea struck him. The Doctor promised to go to +his shop, and assist him in trying to make the wheel of one piece. The +Jersey farmers do it by cutting a young sapling, and bending it, while +green and juicy, into a circle; and leaving it so until it becomes +perfectly seasoned. But in London there are no saplings. The difficulty +was, then, to give to old wood the pliancy of young. The Doctor and the +workman labored together some weeks, and succeeded; and the man obtained +a patent for it, which has made his fortune. I was in his shop in +London; he told me the whole story himself, and acknowledged not only +the origin of the idea, but how much the assistance of Dr. Franklin had +contributed to perform the operation on dry wood. He spoke of him +with love and gratitude. I think I have had a similar account from +Dr. Franklin, but cannot be quite certain. I know, that being in +Philadelphia when the first set of patent wheels arrived from London, +and were spoken of, by the gentleman (an Englishman) who brought them, +as a wonderful discovery, the idea of its being a new discovery was +laughed at by the Philadelphians, who, in their Sunday parties across +the Delaware, had seen every farmer's cart mounted on such wheels. +The writer in the paper supposes the English workman got his idea from +Homer. But it is more likely the Jersey farmer got his idea from thence, +because ours are the only farmers who can read Homer; because, too, the +Jersey practice is precisely that stated by Homer: the English practice +very different. Homer's words are (comparing a young hero killed by Ajax +to a poplar felled by a workman) literally thus: 'He fell on the ground, +like a poplar, which has grown smooth, in the west part of a +great meadow; with its branches shooting from its summit. But the +chariot-maker, with his sharp axe, has felled it, that he may bend +a wheel for a beautiful chariot. It lies drying on the banks of the +river.' Observe the circumstances, which coincide with the Jersey +practice. 1. It is a tree growing in a moist place, full of juices, +and easily bent. 2. It is cut while green. 3. It is bent into the +circumference of a wheel. 4. It is left to dry in that form. You, who +write French well and readily, should write a line for the Journal, to +reclaim the honor of our farmers. Adieu. Yours affectionately, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XLIII.--TO COLONEL EDWARD CARRINGTON, January 16, 1787 + + +TO COLONEL EDWARD CARRINGTON. + +Paris, January 16, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +Uncertain whether you might be at New York at the moment of Colonel +Franks' arrival, I have enclosed my private letters for Virginia, under +cover to our delegation in general, which, otherwise, I would have taken +the liberty to enclose particularly to you, as best acquainted with the +situation of the persons to whom they are addressed. Should this find +you at New York, I will still ask your attention to them. + +In my letter to Mr. Jay, I have mentioned the meeting of the Notables, +appointed for the 29th instant. It is now put off to the 7th or 8th +of next month. This event, which will hardly excite any attention in +America, is deemed here the most important one, which has taken place in +their civil line during the present century. Some promise their country +great things from it, some nothing. Our friend De la Fayette was placed +on the list originally. Afterwards his name disappeared; but finally was +reinstated. This shows, that his character here is not considered as +an indifferent one; and that it excites agitation. His education in +our school has drawn on him a very jealous eye, from a court whose +principles are the most absolute despotism. But I hope he has nearly +passed his crisis. The King, who is a good man, is favorably disposed +towards him; and he is supported by powerful family connections, and +by the public good will. He is the youngest man of the Notables, except +one, whose office placed him on the list. + +The Count de Vergennes has, within these ten days, had a very severe +attack of what is deemed an unfixed gout. He has been well enough, +however, to do business to-day. But anxieties for him are not yet +quieted. He is a great and good minister, and an accident to him might +endanger the peace of Europe. + +The tumults in America I expected would have produced in Europe an +unfavorable opinion of our political state. But it has not. On the +contrary, the small effect of these tumults seems to have given more +confidence in the firmness of our governments. The interposition of the +people themselves on the side of government, has had a great effect +on the opinion here. I am persuaded myself, that the good sense of the +people will always be found to be the best army. They may be led astray +for a moment, but will soon correct themselves. The people are the only +censors of their governors; and even their errors will tend to keep +these to the true principles of their institution. To punish these +errors too severely, would be to suppress the only safeguard of the +public liberty. The way to prevent these irregular interpositions of the +people, is to give them full information of their affairs through the +channel of the public papers, and to contrive that those papers should +penetrate the whole mass of the people. The basis of our governments +being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep +that right; and were it left to me to decide, whether we should have +a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I +should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean, +that every man should receive those papers, and be capable of reading +them. I am convinced that those societies (as the Indians), which live +without government, enjoy in their general mass an infinitely greater +degree of happiness, than those who live under the European governments. +Among the former, public opinion is in the place of law, and restrains +morals as powerfully as laws ever did any where. Among the latter, under +pretence of governing, they have divided their nations into two classes, +wolves and sheep. I do not exaggerate. This is a true picture of Europe. +Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their +attention. Do not be too severe upon their errors, but reclaim them +by enlightening them. If once they become inattentive to the public +affairs, you, and I, and Congress, and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, +shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, +in spite of individual exceptions: and experience declares, that man is +the only animal which devours his own kind; for I can apply no milder +term to the governments of Europe, and to the general prey of the rich +on the poor. The want of news has led me into disquisition instead of +narration, forgetting you have every day enough of that. I shall be +happy to hear from you sometimes, only observing, that whatever passes +through the post is read, and that when you write what should be read +by myself only, you must be so good as to confide your letter to some +passenger, or officer of the packet. I will ask your permission to write +to you sometimes, and to assure you of the esteem and respect with which +I have the honor to be, + +Dear Sir, your most obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XLIV--TO JAMES MADISON, January 30, 1787 * + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, January 30, 1787. + + [* The latter part of this letter is in cipher; but appended + to the copy preserved, are explanatory notes, which have + enabled us to publish it entire, except a few words, to + which they afford no key. These are either marked thus * * *, + or the words, which the context seemed to require, inserted + in italics.] + +Dear Sir, + +My last to you was of the 16th of December; since which I have received +yours of November the 25th and December the 4th, which afforded me, +as your letters always do, a treat on matters public, individual and +economical. I am impatient to learn your sentiments on the late troubles +in the Eastern States. So far as I have yet seen, they do not appear +to threaten serious consequences. Those States have suffered by the +stoppage of the channels of their commerce, which have not yet found +other issues. This must render money scarce, and make the people uneasy. +This uneasiness has produced acts absolutely unjustifiable: but I hope +they will provoke no severities from their governments. A consciousness +of those in power, that their administration of the public affairs has +been honest, may, perhaps, produce too great a degree of indignation: +and those characters wherein fear predominates over hope, may apprehend +too much from these instances of irregularity. They may conclude +too hastily, that nature has formed man insusceptible of any other +government than that of force, a conclusion not founded in truth +nor experience. Societies exist under three forms, sufficiently +distinguishable. 1. Without government, as among our Indians. 2. Under +governments, wherein the will of every one has a just influence; as is +the case in England, in a slight degree, and in our States, in a +great one. 3. Under governments of force; as is the case in all other +monarchies, and in most of the other republics. To have an idea of +the curse of existence under these last, they must be seen. It is a +government of wolves over sheep. It is a problem, not clear in my +mind, that the first condition is not the best. But I believe it to be +inconsistent with any great degree of population. The second state has +a great deal of good in it. The mass of mankind under that enjoys a +precious degree of liberty and happiness. It has its evils too: the +principal of which is the turbulence to which it is subject. But weigh +this against the oppressions of monarchy, and it becomes nothing. _Malo +periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem_. Even this evil is +productive of good. It prevents the degeneracy of government, and +nourishes a general attention to the public affairs. I hold it, that a +little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the +political world, as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, +indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the +people, which have produced them. An observation of this truth should +render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of +rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine +necessary for the sound health of government. + +If these transactions give me no uneasiness, I feel very differently +at another piece of intelligence, to wit, the possibility that the +navigation of the Mississippi may be abandoned to Spain. I never had any +interest westward of the Allegany; and I never will have any. But I +have had great opportunities of knowing the character of the people +who inhabit that country; and I will venture to say, that the act which +abandons the navigation of the Mississippi, is an act of separation +between the eastern and western country. It is a relinquishment of five +parts out of eight of the territory of the United States; an abandonment +of the fairest subject for the payment of our public debts, and the +chaining those debts on our own necks, _in perpetuum_. I have the utmost +confidence in the honest intentions of those who concur in this measure; +but I lament their want of acquaintance with the character and physical +advantages of the people, who, right or wrong, will suppose their +interests sacrificed on this occasion to the contrary interests of that +part of the confederacy in possession of present power. If they declare +themselves a separate people, we are incapable of a single effort to +retain them. Our citizens can never be induced, either as militia or as +soldiers, to go there to cut the throats of their own brothers and sons, +or rather, to be themselves the subjects, instead of the perpetrators, +of the parricide. Nor would that country quit the cost of being retained +against the will of its inhabitants, could it be done. But it cannot be +done. They are able already to rescue the navigation of the Mississippi +out of the hands of Spain, and to add New Orleans to their own, +territory. They will be joined by the inhabitants of Louisiana. This +will bring on a war between them and Spain; and that will produce the +question with us, whether it will not be worth our while to become +parties with them in the war, in order to re-unite them with us, and +thus correct our error. And were I to permit my forebodings to go one +step further, I should predict, that the inhabitants of the United +States would force their rulers to take the affirmative of that +question. I wish I may be mistaken in all these opinions. + +We have for some time expected, that the Chevalier de la Luzerne would +obtain a promotion in the diplomatic line, by being appointed to some +of the courts where this country keeps an ambassador. But none of the +vacancies taking place, which had been counted on, I think the present +disposition is to require his return to his station in America. He told +me himself, lately, that he should return in the spring. I have never +pressed this matter on the court, though I knew it to be desirable and +desired on our part; because if the compulsion on him to return had been +the work of Congress, he would have returned in such ill temper with +them, as to disappoint them in the good they expected from it. He would +for ever have laid at their door his failure of promotion. I did not +press it for another reason, which is, that I have great reason to +believe, that the character of the Count de Moutier, who would go, were +the Chevalier to be otherwise provided for, would give the most perfect +satisfaction in America. + +As you have now returned into Congress, it will become of importance, +that you should form a just estimate of certain public characters; on +which, therefore, I will give you such notes as my knowledge of them +has furnished me with. You will compare them with the materials you are +otherwise possessed of, and decide on a view of the whole. + +You know the opinion I formerly entertained of my friend, Mr. Adams. * +* * and the Governor were the first who shook that opinion. I afterwards +saw proofs, which convicted him of a degree of vanity, and of a +blindness to it, of which no germ appeared in Congress. A seven months' +intimacy with him here and as many weeks in London, have given me +opportunities of studying him closely. He is vain, irritable, and a bad +calculator of the force and probable effect of the motives which govern +men. This is all the ill which can possibly be said of him. He is as +disinterested as the Being who made him: he is profound in his views; +and accurate in his judgment, except where knowledge of the world is +necessary to form a judgment. He is so amiable, that I pronounce you +will love him, if ever you become acquainted with him. He would be, as +he was, a great man in Congress. + +Mr. Carmichael is, I think, very little known in America. I never saw +him, and while I was in Congress I formed rather a disadvantageous idea +of him. His letters received then showed him vain, and more attentive to +ceremony and etiquette, than we suppose men of sense should be. I +have now a constant correspondence with him, and find him a little +hypochondriac and discontented. He possesses a very good understanding, +though not of the first order. I have had great opportunities of +searching into his character, and have availed myself of them. Many +persons of different nations, coming from Madrid to Paris, all speak of +him as in high esteem, and I think it certain that he has more of the +Count de Florida Blanca's friendship, than any diplomatic character at +that court. As long as this minister is in office, Carmichael can do +more than any other person who could be sent there. + +You will see Franks, and doubtless he will be asking some appointment. I +wish there may be any one for which he is fit. He is light, indiscreet, +active, honest, affectionate. Though Bingham is not in diplomatic +office, yet as he wishes to be so, I will mention such circumstances of +him, as you might otherwise be deceived in. He will make you believe he +was on the most intimate footing with the first characters in Europe, +and versed in the secrets of every cabinet. Not a word of this is true. +He had a rage for being presented to great men, and had no * * * in the +methods by which he could effect it. * * * * * + +The Marquis de la Fayette is a most valuable auxiliary to me. His zeal +is unbounded, and his weight with those in power, great. His education +having been merely military, commerce was an unknown field to him. +But his good sense enabling him to comprehend perfectly whatever is +explained to him, his agency has been very efficacious. He has a great +deal of sound genius, is well remarked by the King, and rising in +popularity. He has nothing against him, but the suspicion of republican +principles. I think he will one day be of the ministry. His foible is +a canine appetite for popularity and fame; but he will get above this. +_The Count de Vergennes is ill_. The possibility of his _recovery_ +renders it dangerous for us to express a doubt of it; but he is in +danger. He is a great minister in European affairs, but has very +imperfect ideas of our institutions, and no confidence in them. His +devotion to the principles of pure despotism, renders him unaffectionate +to our governments. But his fear of England makes him value us as a +make-weight. He is cool, reserved in political conversations, but free +and familiar on other subjects, and a very attentive, agreeable person +to do business with. It is impossible to have a, clearer, better +organized head; but age has chilled his heart, + +Nothing should be spared on our part, to attach this country to us. It +is the only one on which we can rely for support, under every event. +Its inhabitants love us more, I think, than they do any other nation on +earth. This is very much the effect of the good dispositions with which +the French officers returned. In a former letter, I mentioned to you the +dislocation of my wrist. I can make not the least use of it, except for +the single article of writing, though it is going on five months since +the accident happened. I have great anxieties, lest I should never +recover any considerable use of it. I shall, by the advice of my +surgeons, set out in a fortnight for the waters of Aix, in Provence. I +chose these out of several they proposed to me, because if they fail to +be effectual, my journey will not be useless altogether. It will give +me an opportunity of examining the canal of Languedoc, and of acquiring +knowledge of that species of navigation, which may be useful hereafter: +but, more immediately, it will enable me to make the tour of the ports +concerned in commerce with us, to examine, on the spot, the defects +of the late regulations, respecting our commerce, to learn the further +improvements which may be made in it, and, on my return, to get this +business finished. I shall be absent between two and three months, +unless anything happens to recall me here sooner, which may always be +effected in ten days, in whatever part of my route I may be. + +In speaking of characters, I omitted those of Reyneval and Hennin, +the two eyes of Count de Vergennes. The former is the most important +character, because possessing the most of the confidence of the Count. +He is rather cunning than wise, his views of things being neither great +nor liberal. He governs himself by principles which he has learned +by rote, and is fit only for the details of execution. His heart +is susceptible of little passions, but not of good ones. He is +brother-in-law to M. Gerard, from whom he received disadvantageous +impressions of us, which cannot be effaced. He has much duplicity. +Hennin is a philosopher, sincere, friendly, liberal, learned, beloved by +every body: the other by nobody. I think it a great misfortune that the +United States are in the department of the former. As particulars +of this kind may be useful to you, in your present situation, I may +hereafter continue the chapter. I know it will be safely lodged in your +discretion. Feb. 5. Since writing thus far, Franks has returned from +England. I learn that Mr. Adams desires to be recalled, and that Smith +should be appointed _Charge des Affaires_ there. It is not for me to +decide whether any diplomatic character should be kept at a court, which +keeps none with us. You can judge of Smith's abilities by his letters. +They are not of the first order, but they are good. For his honesty, he +is like our friend Monroe; turn his soul wrong side outwards, and there +is not a speck on it. He has one foible, an excessive inflammability of +temper, but he feels it when it comes on, and has resolution enough to +suppress it, and to remain silent till it passes over. + +I send you, by Colonel Franks, your pocket telescope, walking stick, and +chemical box. The two former could not be combined together. The latter +could not be had in the form you referred to. Having a great desire +to have a portable copying machine, and being satisfied from some +experiment, that the principle of the large machine might be applied in +a small one, I planned one when in England, and had it made. It answers +perfectly. I have since set a workman to making them here, and they are +in such demand that he has his hands full. Being assured that you will +be pleased to have one, when you shall have tried its convenience, I +send you one by Colonel Franks. The machine costs ninety-six livres, the +appendages twenty-four livres, and I send you paper and ink for twelve +livres; in all, one hundred and thirty-two livres. There is a printed +paper of directions: but you must expect to make many essays before +you succeed perfectly. A soft brush, like a shaving-brush, is more +convenient than the sponge. You can get as much ink and paper as you +please, from London. The paper costs a guinea a ream. I am, Dear Sir, +with sincere esteem and affection, your most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XLV.--TO JOHN JAY, February 1, 1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Sir, + +Paris, February 1, 1787. + +My last letters were of the 31st of December and 9th of January; since +which last date, I have been honored with yours of December the 13th and +14th. I shall pay immediate attention to your instructions relative +to the South Carolina frigate. I had the honor of informing you of +an improvement in the art of coining, made here by one Drost, and of +sending you, by Colonel Franks, a specimen of his execution in gold and +silver. I expected to have sent also a coin of copper. The enclosed note +from Drost will explain the reason why this was not sent. It will let +you see also, that he may be employed; as I suppose he is not so certain +as he was of being engaged here. Mr. Grand, who knows him, gives me +reason to believe he may be engaged reasonably. Congress will decide +whether it be worth their attention. + +In some of my former letters, I suggested an opportunity of obliging the +court, by borrowing as much money in Holland as would pay the debt due +here, if such a loan could be obtained; as to which, I was altogether +ignorant. To save time, I wrote to Mr. Dumas, to know whether he thought +it probable a loan could be obtained, enjoining on him the strictest +secrecy, and informing him I was making the inquiry merely of my own +motion, and without instruction. I enclose you his answer. He thinks +purchasers of the debt could be found, with a sacrifice of a small part +of the capital, and a postponement be obtained of some of the first +reimbursements. The proposition by him, for an immediate adoption of +this measure by me, was probably urged, on his mind by a desire to serve +our country, more than a strict attention to my duty, and the magnitude +of the object. I hope, on the contrary, that if it should be thought +worth a trial, it may be put into the hands of Mr. Adams, who knows the +ground, and is known there, and whose former successful negotiations in +this line would give better founded hopes of success on this occasion. + +I formerly mentioned to you the hopes of preferment, entertained by the +Chevalier de la Luzerne. They have been baffled by events; none of the +vacancies taking place which had been expected. Had I pressed his being +ordered back, I have reason to believe the order would have been given. +But he would have gone back in ill humor with Congress, he would have +laid for ever at their door the failure of a promotion then viewed +as certain; and this might have excited dispositions that would have +disappointed us of the good we hoped from his return. The line I have +observed with him has been, to make him sensible that nothing was more +desired by Congress than his return, but that they would not willingly +press it, so as to defeat him of a personal advantage. He sees his +prospects fail, and will return in the approaching spring unless +something unexpected should turn up in his favor. In this case, the +Count de Moutier has the promise of succeeding to him, and if I do not +mistake his character, he would give great satisfaction. So that I think +you may calculate on seeing one or the other, by midsummer. + +It had been suspected that France and England might adopt those +concerted regulations of commerce for their West Indies, of which your +letter expresses some apprehensions. But the expressions in the +4th, 5th, 7th, 11th, 18th, and other articles of their treaty, which +communicate to the English the privileges of the most favored European +nation only, has lessened, if not removed those fears. They have clearly +reserved a right of favoring, specially, any nation not European; and +there is no nation out of Europe, who could so probably have been +in their eye at that time, as ours. They are wise. They must see it +probable, at least, that any concert with England will be but of +short duration; and they could hardly propose to sacrifice for that, a +connection with us, which may be perpetual. + +We have been for some days, in much inquietude for the Count de +Vergennes. He is very seriously ill. Nature seems struggling to decide +his disease into a gout. A swelled foot, at present gives us a hope-of +this issue. His loss would at all times have been great; but it would be +immense during the critical poise of European affairs, existing at +this moment. I enclose you a letter from one of the foreign officers, +complaining of the non-payment of their interest. It is only one out +of many I have received. This is accompanied by a second copy of the +Moorish declaration sent me by Mr. Barclay. He went to Alicant to settle +with Mr. Lambe; but on his arrival there, found he was gone to Minorca. +A copy of his letter will inform you of this circumstance, and of some +others relative to Algiers, with his opinion on them. Whatever the +States may enable Congress to do for obtaining the peace of that +country, it is a separate question whether they will redeem our +captives, how, and at what price. If they decide to redeem them, I will +beg leave to observe, that it is of great importance that the first +redemption be made at as low a price as possible, because it will form +the future tariff. If these pirates find that they can have a very great +price for Americans, they will abandon proportionably their pursuits +against other nations, to direct them towards ours. That the choice +of Congress may be enlarged, as to the instruments they may use for +effecting the redemption, I think it my duty to inform them, that there +is here an order of priests called the Mathurins, the object of whose +institution is to beg alms for the redemption of captives. They keep +members always in Barbary, searching out the captives of their country, +and redeem, I believe, on better terms than any other body, public or +private. It occurred to me, that their agency might be obtained for the +redemption of our prisoners at Algiers. I obtained conferences with the +General, and with some members of the order. The General, with all +the benevolence and cordiality possible, undertook to act for us if we +should, desire it. He told me that their last considerable redemption +was of about three hundred prisoners, who cost them somewhat upwards +of fifteen hundred livres apiece. But that they should not be able +to redeem ours, as cheap as they do their own; and that it must be +absolutely unknown that the public concern themselves in the operation, +or the price would be greatly enhanced. The difference of religion was +not once mentioned, nor did it appear to me to be thought of. It was +a silent reclamation and acknowledgment of fraternity, between two +religions of the same family, which historical events of ancient +date had rendered more hostile to one another, than to their common +adversaries. I informed the General, that I should communicate the +good dispositions of his order, to those who alone had the authority to +decide whatever related to our captives. Mr. Carmichael informs me, that +monies have been advanced for the support of our prisoners at Algiers, +which ought to be replaced. I infer from the context of his letter, +that these advances have been made by the court of Madrid. I submit the +information to Congress. + +A treaty of commerce is certainly concluded between France and Russia. +The particulars of it are yet secret. + +I enclose the gazettes of France and Leyden to this date, and have the +honor of assuring you of those sentiments of perfect esteem and respect, +with which I am, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XLVI.--TO MRS. BINGHAM, February 7, 1787 + + +TO MRS. BINGHAM. + +Paris, February 7, 1787. + +I know, Madam, that the twelve-month is not yet expired; but it will be, +nearly, before this will have the honor of being put into your hands. +You are then engaged to tell me, truly and honestly, whether you do not +find the tranquil pleasures of America, preferable to the empty bustle +of Paris. For to what does that bustle tend? At eleven o'clock, it is +day, _chez madame_, the curtains are drawn. Propped on bolsters and +pillows, and her head scratched into a little order, the bulletins of +the sick are read, and the billets of the well. She writes to some of +her acquaintance, and receives the visits of others. If the morning is +not very thronged, she is able to get out and hobble round the cage of +the Palais Royal; but she must hobble quickly, for the coiffeurs turn is +come; and a tremendous turn it is! Happy, if he does not make her arrive +when dinner is half over! The torpitude of digestion a little passed, +she flutters half an hour through the streets, by way of paying visits, +and then to the spectacles. These finished; another half hour is devoted +to dodging in and out of the doors of her very sincere friends, and away +to supper. After supper, cards and after cards, bed; to rise at noon the +next day, and to tread, like a mill-horse, the same trodden circle over +again. Thus the days of life are consumed, one by one, without an object +beyond the present moment; ever flying from the ennui of that, yet +carrying it with us; eternally in pursuit of happiness, which keeps +eternally before us. If death or bankruptcy happen to trip us out of +the circle, it is matter for the buzz of the evening, and is completely +forgotten by the next morning. In America, on the other hand, +the society of your husband, the fond cares for the children, the +arrangements of the house, the improvements of the grounds, fill +every moment with a healthy and an useful activity. Every exertion is +encouraging, because to present amusement it joins the promise of some +future good. The intervals of leisure are filled by the society of real +friends, whose affections are not thinned to cobweb, by being spread +over a thousand objects. This is the picture, in the light it is +presented to my mind; now let me have it in yours. If we do not concur +this year, we shall the next; or if not then, in a year or two more. You +see I am determined not to suppose myself mistaken. + +To let you see that Paris is not changed in its pursuits, since it was +honored with your presence, I send you its monthly history. But this +relating only to the embellishments of their persons, I must add, that +those of the city go on well also. A new bridge, for example, is begun +at the _Place Louis Quinze_; the old ones are clearing of the rubbish +which encumbered them in the form of houses 5 new hospitals erecting; +magnificent walls of inclosure, and Custom-houses at their entrances, +&c. &c. &c. I know of no interesting change among those whom you honored +with your acquaintance, unless Monsieur de Saint James was of that +number. His bankruptcy, and taking asylum in the Bastille, have +furnished matter of astonishment. His garden, at the Pont de Neuilly, +where, on seventeen acres of ground he had laid out fifty thousand +louis, will probably sell for somewhat less money. The workmen of Paris +are making rapid strides towards English perfection. Would you believe, +that in the course of the last two years, they have learned even to +surpass their London rivals in some articles? Commission me to have you +a phaeton made, and if it is not as much handsomer than a London one, +as that is than a fiacre, send it back to me. Shall I fill the box with +caps, bonnets, &c.? Not of my own choosing, but I was going to say, +of Mademoiselle Bertin's, forgetting for the moment, that she too is +bankrupt. They shall be chosen then by whom you please; or, if you are +altogether nonplused by her eclipse, we will call an _Assemblees des +Notables_, to help you out of the difficulty, as is now the fashion. +In short, honor me with your, commands of any kind, and they shall be +faithfully executed. The packets now established from Havre to New York +furnish good opportunities of sending whatever you wish. + +I shall end where I began, like a Paris day, reminding you of your +engagement to write me a letter of respectable length, an engagement +the more precious to me, as it has furnished me the occasion, after +presenting my respects to Mr. Bingham, of assuring you of the sincerity +of those sentiments of esteem and respect, with which I have the honor +to be, Dear Madam, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson, + + + + +LETTER XLVII.--TO GOVERNOR RANDOLPH, February 7, 1787 + +TO GOVERNOR RANDOLPH. + +Paris, February 7, 1787. + +I have the honor of enclosing to your Excellency a report of the +proceedings on the inauguration of the bust of the Marquis de la +Fayette, in this city. This has been attended with a considerable, but +a necessary delay. The principle that the King is the sole fountain +of honor in this country, opposed a barrier to our desires, which +threatened to be insurmountable. No instance of a similar proposition +from a foreign power, had occurred in their history. The admitting it +in this case, is a singular proof of the King's friendly dispositions +towards the States of America, and of his personal esteem for the +character of the Marquis de la Fayette. + +I take this, the earliest occasion, of congratulating my country on your +excellency's appointment to the chair of government, and of assuring +you, with great sincerity, of those sentiments of perfect esteem and +respect, with which I have the honor to be your. Excellency's most +obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XLVIII.--TO JOHN JAY, February 8, 1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, February 8, 1787. + +Sir, + +The packet being to sail the day after to-morrow, I have awaited the +last possible moment of writing by her, in hopes I might be able +to announce some favorable change in the situation of the Count de +Vergennes. But none has occurred, and in the mean time he has become +weaker by the continuance of his illness. Though not desperately ill, he +is dangerously so. The Comptroller General, M. de Calonne, has been very +ill also, but he is getting well. These circumstances have occasioned +the postponement of the Assemblee des Notables to the 14th instant, and +will probably occasion a further postponement. As I shall set out this +day se'nnight for the waters of Aix, you will probably hear the issue +of the Count de Vergennes illness through some other channel, before I +shall have the honor of addressing you again. I may observe the same as +to the final decision for the enfranchisement of Honfleur, which is in +a fair way of being speedily concluded. The exertions of Monsieur de +Creve-coeur, and particularly his influence with the Duke d'Harcourt, +the principal instrument in effecting it, have been of chief consequence +in this matter. + +I have the honor to be, with the most perfect esteem and respect, Sir, +your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XLIX.--TO MR. DUMAS, February 9, 1787 + + +TO MR. DUMAS. + +Paris, February 9, 1787. + +Sir, + +My last to you was dated December the 25th; since which I have been +honored with your several favors of December the 29th, January the 5th, +9th, and 23rd. I thought that your affairs could not be more interesting +than they have been for a considerable time. Yet in the present moment +they are become more so, by the apparent withdrawing of so considerable +a personage in the drama, as the King of Prussia. To increase this +interest, another person, whose importance scarcely admits calculation, +is in a situation which fills us with alarm. Nature is struggling to +relieve him by a decided gout; she has my sincere prayers to aid her, as +I am persuaded she has yours. I have letters and papers from America +as late as the 15th of December. The government of Massachusetts had +imprisoned three of the leaders of their insurgents. The insurgents, +being collected to the number of three or four hundred, had sent in +their petition to the government, praying another act of pardon for +their leaders and themselves, and on this condition offering to go every +man home, and conduct himself dutifully afterwards. This is the latest +intelligence. + +I thank you for your attention to the question I had taken the liberty +of proposing to you. I think with you, that it would be advisable to +have our debt transferred to individuals of your country. There could +and would be no objection to the guarantee remaining as you propose; +and a postponement of the first payments of capital would surely be a +convenience to us. For though the resources of the United States are +great and growing, and their dispositions good, yet their machine is +new, and they have not got it to go well. It is the object of their +general wish at present, and they are all in movement, to set it in a +good train; but their movements are necessarily slow. They will surely +effect it in the end, because all have the same end in view; the +difficulty being only to get all the thirteen States to agree on the +same means. Divesting myself of every partiality, and speaking from that +thorough knowledge which I have of the country, their resources, and +their principles, I had rather trust money in their hands, than in that +of any government on earth; because, though for a while the payments of +the interest might be less regular, yet the final reimbursement of the +capital would be more sure. + +I set out next week for the south of France, to try whether some mineral +waters in that quarter, much recommended, will restore the use of my +hand. I shall be absent from Paris two or three months; but I take +arrangements for the regular receipt of your favors, as if I were here. +It will be better, however, for you to put your letters to Mr. Jay under +cover to Mr. Short, who remains here, and will forward them. + +I have thought it my duty to submit to Congress the proposition about +the French debt, and may expect their answer in four months. + +I have the honor to be, with sincere esteem and respect, Sir, your most +obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER L.--TO JOHN JAY, February 14, 1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, February 14, 1787. + +Sir, + +In the letter of the 8th instant, which I had the honor of writing you, +I informed you that the Count de Vergennes was dangerously ill. He +died yesterday morning, and the Count de Montmorin is appointed +his successor. Your personal knowledge of this gentleman renders it +unnecessary for me to say any thing of him. + +Mr. Morris, during his office, being authorized to have the medals +and swords executed, which had been ordered by Congress, he authorized +Colonel Humphreys to take measures here for the execution. Colonel +Humphreys did so; and the swords were finished in time for him to carry +them. The medals not being finished, he desired me to attend to them. +The workman who was to make that of General Greene, brought me yesterday +the medal in gold, twenty-three in copper, and the die. Mr. Short, +during my absence, will avail himself of the first occasion which shall +offer, of forwarding the medals to you. I must beg leave, through you, +to ask the pleasure of Congress as to the number they would choose +to have struck. Perhaps they might be willing to deposite one of each +person in every college of the United States. Perhaps they might choose +to give a series of them to each of the crowned heads of Europe, which +would be an acceptable present to them. They will be pleased to decide. +In the mean time I have sealed up the die, and shall retain it till I +am honored with their orders as to this medal, and the others also when +they shall be finished. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, + +Sir, your most obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LI.--TO JOHN JAY, February 23, 1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, February 23, 1787. + +Sir, + +The _Assemblee des Notables_ being an event in the history of +this country which excites notice, I have supposed it would not be +disagreeable to you to learn its immediate objects, though no way +connected with our interests. The Assembly met yesterday: the King, in a +short but affectionate speech, informed them of his wish to consult +with them on the plans he had digested, and on the general good of his +people, and his desire to imitate the head of his family, Henry IV., +whose memory is so dear to the nation. The _Garde des Sceaux_ then spoke +about twenty minutes, chiefly in compliment to the orders present. The +Comptroller General, in a speech of about an hour, opened the budget, +and enlarged on the several subjects which will be under their +deliberation. He explained the situation of the finances at his +accession to office, the expenses which their arrangement had rendered +necessary, their present state with the improvements made in them, the +several plans which had been proposed for their further improvement, a +change in the form of some of their taxes, the removal of the interior +Custom-houses to the frontiers, and the institution of Provincial +Assemblies. The Assembly was then divided into committees, with a prince +of the blood at the head of each. In this form they are to discuss +separately the subjects which will be submitted to them. Their decision +will be reported by two members to the minister, who, on view of the +separate decisions of all the committees, will make such changes in his +plans, as will best accommodate them to their views, without too much +departing from his own, and will then submit them to the vote (but +I believe not to the debate) of the General Assembly, which will +be convened for this purpose one day in every week, and will vote +individually. + +The event (C)f the Count de Vergennes'death, of which I had the honor to +inform you in a letter of the 14th instant, the appointment of the Count +Montmorin, and the propriety of my attending at his first audience, +which will be on the 27th, have retarded the journey I had proposed a +few days. + +I shall hope, on my return, to meet here new powers for the consular +convention, as, under those I have, it will be impossible to make the +changes in the convention, which may be wished for. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LII.--TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE, February 28, 1787 + + +TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE. + +Paris, February 28, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I am just now in the moment of my departure. Monsieur de Montmorin +having given us audience at Paris yesterday, I missed the opportunity +of seeing you once more. I am extremely pleased with his modesty, the +simplicity of his manners, and his dispositions towards us. I promise +myself a great deal of satisfaction in doing business with him. I hope +he will not give ear to any unfriendly suggestions. I flatter myself I +shall hear from you sometimes. Send your letters to my hotel as usual, +and they will be forwarded to me. I wish you success in your meeting. +I should form better hopes of it, if it were divided into two Houses +instead of seven. Keeping the good model of your neighboring country +before your eyes, you may get on, step by step, towards a good +constitution. Though that model is not perfect, yet, as it would unite +more suffrages than any new one which could be proposed, it is better to +make that the object. If every advance is to be purchased by filling the +royal coffers with gold, it will be gold well employed. The King, who +means so well, should be encouraged to repeat these Assemblies. You see +how we republicans are apt to preach, when we get on politics. Adieu, my +dear friend. + +Yours affectionately, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LIII.--TO MADAME LA COMTESSE DE TESSE, March 20, 1787 + + +TO MADAME LA COMTESSE DE TESSE. + +Nismes, March 20, 1787. + +Here I am, Madam, gazing whole hours at the _Maison Quarree_, like a +lover at his mistress. The stocking-weavers and silk-spinners around it, +consider me as a hypochondriac Englishman, about to write with a pistol +the last chapter of his history. This is the second time I have been in +love since I left Paris. The first was with a Diana at the Chateau de +Lay-Epinaye in Beaujolois, a delicious morsel of sculpture, by M. A. +Slodtz. This, you will say, was in rule, to fall in love with a female +beauty: but with a house! It is out of all precedent. No, Madam, it +is not without a precedent, in my own history. While in Paris, I +was violently smitten with the Hotel de Salm, and used to go to the +Tuileries almost daily to look at it. The _loueuse des chaises_, +inattentive to my passion, never had the complaisance to place a chair +there, so that, sitting on the parapet, and twisting my neck round to +see the object of my admiration, I generally left it with a torticollis. + +From Lyons to Nismes I have been nourished with the remains of Roman +grandeur. They have always brought you to my mind, because I know your +affection for whatever is Roman and noble. At Vienne I thought of you. +But I am glad you were not there; for you would have seen me more +angry than I hope you will ever see me. The Praetorian palace, as it is +called, comparable, for its fine proportions, to the _Maison Quarree_, +defaced by the barbarians who have converted it to its present purpose, +its beautiful fluted Corinthian columns cut out in part to make space +for Gothic windows, and hewed down in the residue to the plane of +the building, was enough, you must admit, to disturb my composure. At +Orange, too, I thought of you. I was sure you had seen with pleasure +the sublime triumphal arch of Marius at the entrance of the city. I went +then to the Arena. Would you believe, Madam, that in this eighteenth +century, in France, under the reign of Louis XVI., they are at this +moment pulling down the circular wall of this superb remain to pave a +road? And that too from a hill which is itself an entire mass of stone, +just as fit, and more accessible? A former intendant, a M. de Basville, +has rendered his memory dear to the traveller and amateur, by the +pains he took to preserve and restore these monuments of antiquity. The +present one (I do not know who he is) is demolishing the object to make +a good road to it. I thought of you again, and I was then in great good +humor, at the _Pont du Gard_, a sublime antiquity, and well preserved. +But most of all here, where Roman taste, genius, and magnificence excite +ideas analogous to yours at every step. I could no longer oppose the +inclination to avail myself of your permission to write to you, a +permission given with too much complaisance by you, and used by me with +too much indiscretion. Madame de Tott did me the same honor. + +But she being only the descendant of some of those puny heroes who +boiled their own kettles before the walls of Troy, I shall write to her +from a Grecian, rather than a Roman canton: when I shall find myself, +for example, among her Phocaean relations at Marseilles. + +Loving, as you do, Madam, the precious remains of antiquity, loving +architecture, gardening, a warm sun, and a clear sky, I wonder you have +never thought of moving Chaville to Nismes. This, as you know, has +not always been deemed impracticable; and, therefore, the next time a +_Surintendant des bailments du roi_, after the example of M. Colbert, +sends persons to Nismes to move the _Maison Quarree_ to Paris, that they +may not come empty-handed, desire them to bring Chaville with them to +replace it. _A propos_ of Paris. I have now been three weeks from there, +without knowing any thing of what has passed. I suppose I shall meet +it all at Aix, where I have directed my letters to be lodged, _poste +restante_. My journey has given me leisure to reflect on this _Assemblee +des Notables_. Under a good and a young King, as the present, I think +good may be made of it. I would have the deputies, then, by all means, +so conduct themselves as to encourage him to repeat the calls of this +Assembly. Their first step should be to get themselves divided into two +chambers instead of seven; the Noblesse and the Commons separately. The +second, to persuade the King, instead of choosing the deputies of the +Commons himself, to summon those chosen by the people for the Provincial +administrations. The third, as the Noblesse is too numerous to be all +of the Assemblee, to obtain permission for that body to choose its own +deputies. Two Houses, so elected, would contain a mass of wisdom, which +would make the people happy, and the King great; would place him in +history where no other act can possibly place him. They would thus put +themselves in the track of the best guide they can follow, they would +soon overtake it, become its guide in turn, and lead to the wholesome +modifications wanting in that model, and necessary to constitute a +rational government. Should they attempt more than the established +habits of the people are ripe for, they must lose all, and retard +indefinitely the ultimate object of their aim. These, Madam, are my +opinions; but I wish to know yours, which I am sure will be better. + +From a correspondent at Nismes you will not expect news. Were I to +attempt to give you news, I should tell you stories one thousand years +old. I should detail to you the intrigues of the courts of the Caesars, +how they affect us here, the oppressions of their praetors, prefects, +&c. I am immersed in antiquities from morning to night. For me the city +of Rome is actually existing in all the splendor of its empire. I am +filled with alarms for the event of the irruptions daily making on us +by the Goths, the Visigoths, Ostrogoths, and Vandals, lest they should +re-conquer us to our original barbarism. If I am sometimes induced to +look forward to the eighteenth century, it is only when recalled to +it by the recollection of your goodness and friendship, and by those +sentiments of sincere esteem and respect, with which I have the honor to +be, + +Madam, your most obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LIV.--TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE, April 11, 1787 + + +TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE. + +Nice, April 11, 1787. + +Your head, my dear friend, is full of _Notable_ things; and being better +employed, therefore, I do not expect letters from you. I am constantly +roving about to see what I have never seen before, and shall never see +again. In the great cities, I go to see what travellers think alone +worthy of being seen; but I make a job of it, and generally gulp it +all down in a day. On the other hand, I am never satiated with rambling +through the fields and farms, examining the culture and cultivators with +a degree of curiosity, which makes some take me to be a fool, and others +to be much wiser than I am. I have been pleased to find among the people +a less degree of physical misery than I had expected. They are generally +well clothed, and have a plenty of food, not animal indeed, but +vegetable, which is as wholesome. Perhaps they are over-worked, the +excess of the rent required by the landlord obliging them to too many +hours of labor in order to produce that, and wherewith to feed and +clothe themselves. The soil of Champagne and Burgundy I have found more +universally good than I had expected, and as I could not help making a +comparison with England, I found that comparison more unfavorable to +the latter than is generally admitted. The soil, the climate, and the +productions are superior to those of England, and the husbandry as +good, except in one point; that of manure. In England, long leases for +twenty-one years, or three lives, to wit, that of the farmer, his wife, +and son, renewed by the son as soon as he comes to the possession, for +his own life, his wife's, and eldest child's, and so on, render the +farms there almost hereditary, make it worth the farmer's while to +manure the lands highly, and give the landlord an opportunity of +occasionally making his rent keep pace with the improved state of the +lands. Here the leases are either during pleasure, or for three, six, or +nine years, which does not give the farmer time to repay himself for the +expensive operation of well manuring, and therefore, he manures ill, +or not at all. I suppose, that could the practice of leasing for three +lives be introduced in the whole kingdom, it would, within the term of +your life, increase agricultural productions fifty per cent.; or were +any one proprietor to do it with his own lands, it would increase his +rents fifty per cent, in the course of twenty-five years. But I am told +the laws do not permit it. The laws then, in this particular, are +unwise and unjust, and ought to give that permission. In the southern +provinces, where the soil is poor, the climate hot and dry, and there +are few animals, they would learn the art, found so precious in England, +of making vegetable manure, and thus improving the provinces in the +article in which nature has been least kind to them. Indeed, these +provinces afford a singular spectacle. Calculating on the poverty of +their soil, and their climate by its latitude only, they should have +been the poorest in France. On the contrary, they are the richest, from +one fortuitous circumstance. Spurs or ramifications of high mountains, +making down from the Alps, and, as it were, reticulating these +provinces, give to the vallies the protection of a particular inclosure +to each, and the benefit of a general stagnation of the northern winds +produced by the whole of them, and thus countervail the advantage of +several degrees of latitude. From the first olive fields of Pierrelatte, +to the orangeries of Hieres, has been continued rapture to me. I have +often wished for you. I think you have not made this journey. It is a +pleasure you have to come, and an improvement to be added to the many +you have already made. It will be a great comfort to you, to know, from +your own inspection, the condition of all the provinces of your own +country, and it will be interesting to them at some future day, to be +known to you. This is, perhaps, the only moment of your life in which +you can acquire that knowledge. And to do it most effectually, you must +be absolutely incognito, you must ferret the people out of their hovels +as I have done, look into their kettles, eat their bread, loll on their +beds under pretence of resting yourself, but in fact to find if they +are soft. You will feel a sublime pleasure in the course of this +investigation, and a sublimer one hereafter, when you shall be able to +apply your knowledge to the softening of their beds, or the throwing a +morsel of meat into their kettle of vegetables. + +You will not wonder at the subjects of my letter: they are the only ones +which have been presented to my mind for some time past; and the waters +must always be what are the fountains from which they flow. According +to this, indeed, I should have intermixed, from beginning to end, warm +expressions of friendship to you. But, according to the ideas of our +country, we do not permit ourselves to speak even truths, when they may +have the air of flattery. I content myself, therefore, with saying once +for all, that I love you, your wife, and children. Tell them so, and +adieu. + +Yours affectionately, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LV.--TO WILLIAM SHORT, April 12, 1787 + + +TO WILLIAM SHORT. + +Nice, April 12, 1787, + +Dear Sir, + +At Marseilles, they told me I should encounter the rice fields of +Piedmont soon after crossing the Alps. Here they tell me there are none +nearer than Vercelli and Novara, which is carrying me almost to Milan. I +fear that this circumstance will occasion me a greater delay than I +had calculated on. However, I am embarked in the project, and shall go +through with it. To-morrow, I set out on my passage over the Alps, being +to pursue it ninety-three miles to Coni, on mules, as the snows are +not yet enough melted to admit carriages to pass. I leave mine here, +therefore, proposing to return by water from Genoa. I think it will +be three weeks before I get back to Nice. I find this climate quite +as delightful as it has been represented. Hieres is the only place in +France, which may be compared with it. The climates are equal. In favor +of this place, are the circumstances of gay and dissipated society, +a handsome city, good accommodations, and some commerce. In favor of +Hieres, are environs of delicious and extensive plains, a society more +contracted, and therefore more capable of esteem, and the neighborhood +of Toulon, Marseilles, and other places, to which excursions may be +made. Placing Marseilles in comparison with Hieres, it has extensive +society, a good theatre, freedom from military control, and the most +animated commerce. But its winter climate is far inferior. I am now in +the act of putting my baggage into portable form for my bat-mule; after +praying you, therefore, to let my daughter know I am well, and that I +shall not be heard of again in three weeks, I take my leave of you for +that time, with assurances of the sincere esteem with which I am, Dear +Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LVI.--TO JOHN JAY, May 4, 1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Marseilles, May 4, 1787. + +Sir, + +I had the honor of receiving at Aix, your letter of February the 9th, +and immediately wrote to the Count de Montmorin, explaining the delay +of the answer of Congress to the King's letter, and desired Mr. Short to +deliver that answer, with my letter, to Monsieur de Montmorin, which he +informs me he has accordingly done. + +My absence prevented my noting to you, in the first moment, the +revolution which has taken place at Paris, in the department of finance, +by the substitution of Monsieur de Fourqueux in the place of Monsieur +de Calonne; so that you will have heard of it through other channels, +before this will have the honor of reaching you. + +Having staid at Aix long enough to prove the inefficacy of the waters, +I came on to this place, for the purpose of informing myself here, as I +mean to do at the other seaport towns, of whatever may be interesting to +our commerce. So far as carried on in our own bottoms, I find it almost +nothing; and so it must probably remain, till something can be done with +the Algerines. Though severely afflicted with the plague, they have +come out within these few days, and showed themselves in force along the +coast of Genoa, cannonading a little town and taking several vessels. + +Among other objects of inquiry, this was the place to learn something +more certain on the subject of rice, as it is a great emporium for that +of the Levant, and of Italy. I wished particularly to know, whether it +was the use of a different machine for cleaning, which brought European +rice to market less broken than ours, as had been represented to me, by +those who deal in that article in Paris. I found several persons who had +passed through the rice country of Italy, but not one who could explain +to me the nature of the machine. But I was given to believe, that I +might see it myself immediately on entering Piedmont. As this would +require but about three weeks, I determined to go, and ascertain this +point; as the chance only of placing our rice above all rivalship in +quality, as it is in color, by the introduction of a better machine, if +a better existed, seemed to justify the application of that much time to +it. I found the rice country to be in truth Lombardy, one hundred miles +further than had been represented, and that though called Piedmont rice, +not a grain is made in the country of Piedmont. I passed through the +rice-fields of the Vercellese and Milanese, about sixty miles, and +returned from thence last night, having found that the machine is +absolutely the same as ours, and of course, that we need not listen more +to that suggestion. It is a difference in the species of grain; of which +the government of Turin is so sensible, that, as I was informed, they +prohibit the exportation of rough rice, on pain of death. I have taken +measures, however, which I think will not fail, for obtaining a quantity +of it, and I bought on the spot a small parcel, which I have with me. +As further details on this subject to Congress would be misplaced, I +propose, on my return to Paris, to communicate them, and send the rice +to the society at Charleston for promoting agriculture, supposing that +they will be best able to try the experiment of cultivating the rice of +this quality, and to communicate the species to the two States of South +Carolina and Georgia, if they find it answers. I thought the staple of +these two States was entitled to this attention, and that it must be +desirable to them, to be able to furnish rice of the two qualities +demanded in Europe, especially, as the greater consumption is in the +forms for which the Lombardy quality is preferred. The mass of our +countrymen being interested in agriculture, I hope I do not err in +supposing, that in a time of profound peace, as the present, to enable +them to adapt their productions to the market, to point out markets for +them, and endeavor to obtain favorable terms of reception, is within the +line of my duty. + +My journey into this part of the country has procured me information, +which I will take the liberty of communicating to Congress. In October +last, I received a letter, dated Montpelier, October the 2nd, 1786, +announcing to me that the writer was a foreigner, who had a matter +of very great consequence to communicate to me, and desired I would +indicate the channel through which it might pass safely. I did so. + +I received soon after, a letter in the following words, omitting only +the formal parts. [_A translation of it is here given._] + +'I am a native of Brazil. You are not ignorant of the frightful +slavery under which my country groans. This continually becomes more +insupportable, since the epoch of your glorious independence; for +the cruel Portuguese omit nothing which can render our condition more +wretched, from an apprehension that we may follow your example. The +conviction, that these usurpers against the laws of nature and humanity +only meditate new oppressions, has decided us to follow the guiding +light which you have held out to us, to break our chains, to revive +our almost expiring liberty, which is nearly overwhelmed by that force, +which is the sole foundation of the authority that Europeans exercise +over America. But it is necessary that some power should extend +assistance to the Brazilians, since Spain would certainly unite herself +with Portugal; and in spite of our advantages for defence, we could not +make it effectual, or, at least, it would be imprudent to hazard the +attempt, without some assurance of success. In this state of affairs, +Sir, we can, with propriety, look only to the United States, not only +because we are following her example, but, moreover, because nature, in +making us inhabitants of the same continent, has in some sort united +us in the bonds of a common patriotism. On our part, we are prepared to +furnish the necessary supplies of money, and at all times to acknowledge +the debt of gratitude due to our benefactors. I have thus, Sir, laid +before you a summary of my views. It is in discharge of this commission +that I have come to France, since I could not effect it in America +without exciting suspicion. It now remains for you to decide whether +those views can be accomplished. Should you desire to consult your +nation on them, it is in my power to give you all the information you +may require.' + +As by this time, I had been advised to try the waters of Aix, I wrote +to the gentleman my design, and that I would go off my road as far as +Nismes, under the pretext of seeing the antiquities of that place, if +he would meet me there. He met me, and the following is the sum of the +information I received from him. 'Brazil contains as many inhabitants +as Portugal. They are, 1. Portuguese. 2. Native whites. 3. Black and +mulatto slaves. 4. Indians, civilized and savage. 1. The Portuguese are +few in number, mostly married there, have lost sight of their native +country, as well as the prospect of returning to it, and are disposed to +become independent. 2. The native whites form the body of their nation. +3. The slaves are as numerous as the free. 4. The civilized Indians have +no energy, and the savage would not meddle. There are twenty thousand +regular troops. Originally these were Portuguese. But as they died off, +they were replaced by natives, so that these compose at present the +mass of the troops, and may be counted on by their native country. The +officers are partly Portuguese, partly Brazilians: their bravery is not +doubted, and they understand the parade, but not the science of their +profession. They have no bias for Portugal, but no energy either for any +thing. The priests are partly Portuguese, partly Brazilians, and will +not interest themselves much. The Noblesse are scarcely known as such. +They will, in no manner, be distinguished from the people. The men of +letters are those most desirous of a revolution. The people are not +much under the influence of their priests, most of them read and write, +possess arms, and are in the habit of using them for hunting. The slaves +will take the side of their masters. In short, as to the question of +revolution, there is but one mind in that Country. But there appears no +person capable of conducting a revolution, or willing to venture himself +at its head, without the aid of some powerful nation, as the people of +their own might fail them. There is no printing press in Brazil. They +consider the North American revolution as a precedent for theirs. They +look to the United States as most likely to give them honest support, +and, from a variety of considerations, have the strongest prejudices in +our favor. This informant is a native and inhabitant of Rio Janeiro, +the present metropolis, which contains fifty thousand inhabitants, knows +well St. Salvador, the former one, and the _mines d'or_, which are +in the centre of the country. These are all for a revolution; and, +constituting the body of the nation, the other parts will follow them, +The King's fifth of the mines, yields annually thirteen millions of +crusadoes or half dollars. He has the sole right of searching for +diamonds and other precious stones, which yield him about half as much. +His income from those two resources alone, then, is about ten millions +of dollars annually; but the remaining part of the produce of the +mines, being twenty-six millions, might be counted on for effecting +a revolution. Besides the arms in the hands of the people, there are +public magazines. They have abundance of horses, but only a part of +their country would admit the service of horses. They would want cannon, +ammunition, ships, sailors, soldiers, and officers, for which they are +disposed to look to the United States, it being always understood, that +every service and furniture will be well paid. Corn costs about +twenty livres the one hundred pounds. They have flesh in the greatest +abundance, insomuch, that in some parts, they kill beeves for the skin +only. The whale fishery is carried on by Brazilians altogether, and not +by Portuguese; but in very small vessels, so that the fishermen know +nothing of managing a large ship. They would want of us; at all times, +shipping, corn, and salt fish. The latter is a great article, and they +are at present supplied with it from Portugal. Portugal being without +either army or navy, could not attempt an invasion under a twelvemonth. +Considering of what it would be composed, it would not be much to be +feared, and if it failed, they would probably never attempt a second. +Indeed, this source of their wealth being intercepted, they are scarcely +capable of a first effort. The thinking part of the nation are so +sensible of this, that they consider an early separation inevitable. +There is an implacable hatred between the Brazilians and Portuguese; +to reconcile which, a former minister adopted the policy of letting +the Brazilians into a participation of public offices; but subsequent +administrations have reverted to the ancient policy of keeping the +administrations in the hands of native Portuguese. There is a mixture +of natives, of the old appointments, still remaining in office. If Spain +should invade them on their southern extremities, these are so distant +from the body of their settlements, that they could not penetrate +thence; and Spanish enterprise is not formidable. The _mines d'or_ are +among mountains, inaccessible to any army; and Rio Janeiro is considered +the strongest port in the world after Gibraltar. In case of a successful +revolution, a republican government in a single body would probably be +established.' + +I took care to impress on him, through the whole of our conversation, +that I had neither instructions nor authority to say a word to any +body on this subject, and that I could only give him my own ideas, as +a single individual: which were, that we were not in a condition at +present to meddle nationally in any war; that we wished particularly to +cultivate the friendship of Portugal, with whom we have an advantageous +commerce. That yet, a successful revolution in Brazil could not be +uninteresting to us. That prospects of lucre might possibly draw numbers +of individuals to their aid, and purer motives our officers, among whom +are many excellent. That our citizens being free to leave their own +country individually, without the consent of their governments, are +equally free to go to any other. + +A little before I received the first letter of the Brazilian, a +gentleman informed me there was a Mexican in Paris, who wished to have +some conversation with me. He accordingly called on me. The substance of +the information I drew from him, was as follows. He is himself a native +of Mexico, where his relations are, principally. He left it about +seventeen years of age, and seems now to be about thirty-three or +thirty-four. He classes and characterizes the inhabitants of that +country, as follows. 1. The natives of Old Spain, possessed of most of +the offices of government, and firmly attached to it. 2. The clergy, +equally attached to the government. 3. The natives of Mexico, generally +disposed to revolt, but without instruction, without energy, and much +under the dominion of their priests. 4. The slaves, mulatto and black; +the former enterprising and intelligent, the latter brave, and of very +important weight, into whatever scale they throw themselves; but he +thinks they will side with their masters. 5. The conquered Indians, +cowardly, not likely to take any side, nor important which they take. 6. +The free Indians, brave and formidable, should they interfere, but not +likely to do so, as being at a great distance. I asked him the numbers +of these several classes, but he could not give them. The first, he +thought very inconsiderable; that the second formed the body of the +freemen; the third equal to the two first; the fourth, to all the +preceding: and as to the fifth, he could form no idea of their +proportion. Indeed, it appeared to me, that his conjectures as to the +others were on loose grounds. He said he knew from good information, +there were three hundred thousand inhabitants in the city of Mexico. I +was still more cautious with him than with the Brazilian, mentioning +it as my private opinion (unauthorized to say a word on the subject, +otherwise), that a successful revolution was still at a distance with +them; that I feared they must begin by enlightening and emancipating +the minds of their people; that as to us, if Spain should give us +advantageous terms of commerce, and remove other difficulties, it was +not probable that we should relinquish certain and present advantages, +though smaller, for uncertain and future ones, however great. I was led +into this caution by observing, that this gentleman was intimate at the +Spanish ambassador's, and that he was then at Paris, employed by Spain +to settle her boundaries with France, on the Pyrenees. He had much +the air of candor, but that can be borrowed; so that I was not able to +decide about him in my own mind. + +Led by a unity of subject, and a desire to give Congress as general a +view of the disposition of our southern countrymen, as my information +enables me, I will add an article which, old and insulated, I did not +think important enough to mention at the time I received it. You will +remember, Sir, that during the late war, the British papers often +gave details of a rebellion in Peru. The character of those papers +discredited the information. But the truth was, that the insurrections +were so general, that the event was long on the poise. Had Commodore +Johnson, then expected on that coast, touched and landed there two +thousand men, the dominion of Spain in that country would have been at +an end. They only wanted a point of union, which this body would have +constituted. Not having this, they acted without concert, and were are +length subdued separately. This conflagration was quenched in blood; +two hundred thousand souls, on both sides, having perished; but the +remaining matter is very capable of combustion. I have this information +from a person who was on the spot at the time, and whose good faith, +understanding, and means of information leave no doubt of the facts. He +observed, however, that the numbers above supposed to have perished were +on such conjectures only as he could collect. + +I trouble Congress with these details, because, however distant we may +be, both in condition and dispositions, from taking an active part in +any commotions in that country, nature has placed it too near us to +make its movements altogether indifferent to our interests, or to our +curiosity. + +I hear of another _Arret_ of this court, increasing the duties on +foreign stock-fish, and the premium on their own imported into their +islands; but not having yet seen it, I can say nothing certain on it. I +hope the effect of this policy will be defeated by the practice which, +I am told, takes place on the Banks of Newfoundland, of putting our +fish into the French fishing-boats, and the parties sharing the premium, +instead of ours paying the duty. + +I am in hopes Mr. Short will be able to send you the medals of General +Gates by this packet. I await a general instruction as to these medals. +The academies of Europe will be much pleased to receive each a set. + +I propose to set out the day after to-morrow for Bordeaux (by the canal +of Languedoc), Mantes, L'Orient, and Paris. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LVII.--TO M. GUIDE, May 6, 1787 + + +TO M. GUIDE. + +Marseilles, May 6, 1787. + +Sir, + +A desire of seeing a commerce commenced between the dominions of his +Majesty, the King of Sardinia, and the United States of America, and a +direct exchange of their respective productions, without passing through +a third nation, led me into the conversation which I had the honor of +having with you on that subject, and afterwards with Monsieur Tallon at +Turin, to whom I promised that I would explain to you, in writing, the +substance of what passed between us. The articles of your produce wanted +with us are brandies, wines, oil, fruits, and manufactured silks: +those with which we can furnish you are indigo, potash, tobacco, flour, +salt-fish, furs and peltries, ships and materials for building them. +The supply of tobacco, particularly, being in the hands of government +solely, appeared to me to offer an article for beginning immediately the +experiment of direct commerce. That of the first quality can be had at +first hand only from James river in Virginia; those of the second and +third from the same place, and from Baltimore in Maryland. The first +quality is delivered in the ports of France at thirty-eight livres +the quintal, the second at thirty-six livres, the third at thirty-four +livres, weight and money of France, by individuals generally. I send you +the copy of a large contract, wherein the three qualities are averaged +at thirty-six livres. They may be delivered at Nice for those prices. +Indeed, it is my opinion, that by making shipments of your own produce +to those places, and buying the tobaccos on the spot, they may be had +more advantageously. In this case, it would be expedient that merchants +of Nice, Turin, and America, should form a joint concern for conducting +the business in the two countries. Monsieur Tallon desired me to point +out proper persons in America who might be addressed for this purpose. +The house of the most extensive reputation, concerned in the tobacco +trade, and on the firmest funds, is that of Messrs. Ross and Pleasants +at Richmond, in Virginia. If it should be concluded on your part to make +any attempt of this kind, and to address yourselves to these gentlemen, +or any others, it would be best to write them your ideas, and receive +theirs, before you make either purchases or shipments. A more hasty +conduct might occasion loss, and retard, instead of encouraging, the +establishment of this commerce. I would undertake to write, at the same +time, to these or any other merchants whom you should prefer, in order +to dispose them favorably, and as disinterestedly as possible, for the +encouragement of this essay. I must observe to you, that our vessels are +fearful of coming into the Mediterranean on account of the Algerines: +and that if you should freight vessels, those of the French will be most +advantageous for you, because received into our ports without paying +any duties on some of those articles, and lighter than others on all of +them. English vessels, on the other hand, are distinguished by paying +heavier duties than those of any other nation. Should you desire any +further information, or to pass letters with certainty to any mercantile +house in America, do me the favor to address yourselves to me at Paris, +and I shall do whatever depends on me for this object. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of high esteem and respect, Sir, +your most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +MEMORANDA TAKEN ON A JOURNEY FROM PARIS IN 1787 + + +_Memoranda taken on a Journey from Paris into the Southern Parts of +France, and Northern of Italy, in the year 1787_. + + +CHAMPAGNE. March 3. _Sens_ to _Vermanton_. The face of the country is in +large hills, not too steep for the plough, somewhat resembling the Elk +hill and Beaver-dam hills of Virginia. The soil is generally a rich +mulatto loam, with a mixture of coarse sand, and some loose stone. The +plains of the Yonne are of the same color. The plains are in corn, the +hills in vineyard, but the wine not good. There are a few apple-trees, +but none of any other kind, and no enclosures. No cattle, sheep, or +swine; fine mules. + +Few _chateaux_; no farm-houses, all the people being gathered in +villages. Are they thus collected by that dogma of their religion, which +makes them believe, that to keep the Creator in good humor with his own +works, they must mumble a mass every day? Certain it is, that they are +less happy and less virtuous in villages, than they would be insulated +with their families on the grounds they cultivate. The people are illy +clothed. Perhaps they have put on their worst clothes at this moment, as +it is raining. But I observe women and children carrying heavy burthens, +and laboring with the hoe. This is an unequivocal indication of extreme +poverty. Men, in a civilized country, never expose their wives and +children to labor above their force and sex, as long as their own labor +can protect them from it. I see few beggars. Probably this is the effect +of a police. + + +BURGUNDY. March 4. _Lucy-le-Bois. Cussy-les-Forges. Rouvray. +Maison-neuve. Vitieaux. La Chaleure. Pont de Panis. Dijon_. The hills +are higher, and more abrupt. The soil a good red loam and sand, mixed +with more or less grit, small stone, and sometimes rock. All in corn. +Some forest wood here and there, broom, whins, and holly, and a few +enclosures of quick-hedge. Now and then a flock of sheep. + +The people are well clothed, but it is Sunday. They have the appearance +of being well fed. The Chateau de Sevigny, near Cussy-les-Forges, is +a charming situation. Between Maison-neuve and Vitteaux the road leads +through an avenue of trees, eight American miles long, in a right line. +It is impossible to paint the ennui of this avenue. On the summits of +the hills, which border the valley in which Vitteaux is, there is a +parapet of rock, twenty, thirty, or forty feet perpendicular, which +crowns the hills. The tops are nearly level, and appear to be covered +with earth. Very singular. Great masses of rock in the hills between La +Chaleure and Pont de Panis, and a conical hill in the approach to the +last place. + +_Dijon_. The tavern price of a bottle of the best wine (e. g. of Vaune) +is four livres. The best round potatoes here, I ever saw. They have +begun a canal thirty feet wide, which is to lead into the Saone at +---------. It is fed by springs. They are not allowed to take any water +out of the riviere d'Ouche, which runs through this place, on account of +the mills on that river. They talk of making a canal to the Seine, the +nearest navigable part of which, at present, is fifteen leagues from +hence. They have very light wagons here for the transportation of their +wine. They are long and narrow; the fore-wheels as high as the hind. Two +pieces of wine are drawn by one horse in one of these wagons. The road +in this part of the country is divided into portions of forty or fifty +feet by stones, numbered, which mark the task of the laborers. + +March 7 and 8. From _La Baraque_ to _Chagny_. On the left are plains, +which extend to the Saone; on the right the ridge of mountains, called +the Cote. The plains are of a reddish-brown, rich loam, mixed with much +small stone. The Cote has for its basis a solid rock, on which is about +a foot of soil and small stone, in equal quantities, the soil red, and +of middling quality. The plains are in corn; the Cote in vines. The +former have no enclosures, the latter is in small ones, of dry stone +wall. There is a good deal of forest. Some small herds of small cattle +and sheep. Fine mules, which come from Provence, and cost twenty louis. +They break them at two years old, and they last to thirty. + +The corn-lands here rent for about fifteen livres the arpent. They are +now planting, pruning, and sticking their vines. When a new vineyard +is made, they plant the vines in gutters about four feet apart. As the +vines advance, they lay them down. They put out new shoots, and fill +all the intermediate space, till all trace of order is lost. They have +ultimately about one foot square to each vine. They begin to yield good +profit at five or six years old, and last one hundred, or one hundred +and fifty years. A vigneron at Volnay carried me into his vineyard, +which was of about ten arpents. He told me, that some years it produced +him sixty pieces of wine, and some not more than three pieces. The +latter is the most advantageous produce, because the wine is better in +quality, and higher in price, in proportion as less is made; and the +expenses, at the same time, diminish in the same proportion. Whereas, +when much is made, the expenses are increased, while the quality and +price become less. In very plentiful years, they often give one half the +wine for casks to contain the other half. The cask for two hundred and +fifty bottles costs six livres in scarce years, and ten in plentiful. +The feuillette is of one hundred and twenty-five bottles, the piece of +two hundred and fifty, and the queue or botte of five hundred. An arpent +rents at from twenty to sixty livres. A farmer of ten arpents has about +three laborers engaged by the year. He pays four louis to a man, and +half as much to a woman, and feeds them. He kills one hog, and salts it, +which is all the meat used in the family during the year. Their ordinary +food is bread and vegetables. At Pomard and Volnay, I observed them +eating good wheat bread; at Meursault, rye. I asked the reason of the +difference. They told me, that the white wines fail in quality much +oftener than the red, and remain on hand. The farmer, therefore, cannot +afford to feed his laborers so well. At Meursault only white wines +are made, because there is too much stone for the red. On such slight +circumstances depends the condition of man! The wines which have given +such celebrity to Burgundy grow only on the Cote, an extent of about +five leagues long, and half a league wide. They begin at Chambertin, +and go through Vougeau, Romanie, Veaune, Nuits, Beaune, Pomard, Volnay, +Meursault, and end at Monrachet. Those of the two last are white; the +others red. Chambertin, Vougeau, and Beaune are the strongest, and will +bear transportation and keeping. They sell, therefore, on the spot for +twelve hundred livres the queue, which is forty-eight sous the bottle. +Volnay is the best of the other reds, equal in flavor to Chambertin, +&c., but being lighter, will not keep, and therefore sells for not more +than three hundred livres the queue, which is twelve sous the bottle. +It ripens sooner than they do, and consequently is better for those who +wish to broach at a year old. In like manner of the white wines, and +for the same reason, Monrachet sells for twelve hundred livres the queue +(forty-eight sous the bottle), and Meursault of the best quality, viz. +the _Goutte d'or_, at only one hundred and fifty livres (six sous the +bottle). It is remarkable, that the best of each kind, that is, of +the red and white, is made at the extremities of the line, to wit, at +Chambertin and Monrachet. It is pretended, that the adjoining vineyards +produce the same qualities, but that, belonging to obscure individuals, +they have not obtained a name, and therefore sell as other wines. The +aspect of the Cote is a little south of east. The western side is also +covered with vines, and is apparently of the same soil; yet the wines +are only of the coarsest kinds. Such, too, are those which are produced +in the plains; but there the soil is richer, and less strong. Vougeau +is the property of the monks of Citeaux, and produces about two hundred +pieces. Monrachet contains about fifty arpents, and produces, one year +with another, about one hundred and twenty pieces. It belongs to +two proprietors only, Monsieur de Clarmont, who leases to some +wine-merchants, and the Marquis de Sarsnet, of Dijon, whose part is +farmed to a Monsieur de la Tour, whose family, for many generations, +have had the farm. The best wines are carried to Paris by land. The +transportation costs thirty-six livres the piece. The more indifferent +go by water. Bottles cost four and a half sous each. + +March 9. _Chalons. Sennecey. Tournus. St. Albin. Macon._ On the left are +the fine plains of the Saone; on the right high lands, rather waving +than hilly, sometimes sloping gently to the plains, sometimes dropping +down in precipices, and occasionally broken into beautiful vallies[sp.] +by the streams which run into the Saone. The plains are a dark rich +loam, in pasture and corn; the heights more or less red or reddish, +always gritty, of middling quality only, their sides in vines, and their +summits in corn. The vineyards are enclosed with dry stone-walls, and +there are some quick-hedges in the corn-grounds. The cattle are few and +indifferent. There are some good oxen, however. They draw by the head. +Few sheep, and small. A good deal of wood-lands. + +I passed three times the canal called Le Charollois, which they are +opening from Chalons on the Saone to Dijon on the Loire. It passes near +Chagny, and will be twenty-three leagues long. They have worked on it +three years, and will finish it in four more. It will reanimate the +languishing commerce of Champagne and Burgundy, by furnishing a water +transportation for their wines to Nantes, which also will receive new +consequence by becoming the emporium of that commerce. At some distance +on the right are high mountains, which probably form the separation +between the waters of the Saone and Loire. Met a malefactor in the hands +of one of the Marichausee; perhaps a dove in the talons of the hawk. The +people begin now to be in separate establishments, and not in villages. +Houses are mostly covered with tile. + + +BEAUJOLOIS.[Sp.] _Maison Blanche. St. George. Chateau de Laye-Epinaye_. +The face of the country is like that from Chalons to Macon. The plains +are a dark rich loam, the hills a red loam of middling quality, mixed +generally with more or less coarse sand and grit, and a great deal of +small stone. Very little forest. The vineyards are mostly enclosed with +dry stone-wall. A few small cattle and sheep. Here, as in Burgundy, the +cattle are all white. This is the richest country I ever beheld. It +is about ten or twelve leagues in length, and three, four, or five +in breadth; at least that part of it, which is under the eye of a +traveller. It extends from the top of a ridge of mountains, running +parallel with the Saone, and sloping down to the plains of that river, +scarce any where too steep for the plough. The whole is thick set with +farm-houses, chateaux, and the bastides of the inhabitants of Lyons. The +people live separately, and not in villages. The hill-sides are in vine +and corn: the plains in corn and pasture. The lands are farmed either +for money, or on half-stocks. The rents of the corn-lands, farmed for +money, are about ten or twelve livres the arpent. A farmer takes perhaps +about one hundred and fifty arpents, for three, six, or nine years. The +first year they are in corn; the second in other small grain, with +which he sows red clover. The third is for the clover. The spontaneous +pasturage is of greensward, which they call fromenteau. When lands +are rented on half-stocks, the cattle, sheep, &c. are furnished by the +landlord. They are valued, and must be left of equal value. The increase +of these, as well as the produce of the farm is divided equally. +These leases are only from year to year. They have a method of mixing +beautifully the culture of vines, trees, and corn. Rows of fruit-trees +are planted about twenty feet apart. Between the trees, in the row, they +plant vines four feet apart, and espalier them. The intervals are sowed +alternately in corn, so as to be one year in corn, the next in pasture, +the third in corn, the fourth in pasture, &c. One hundred toises of +vines in length, yield generally about four pieces of wine. In Dauphine, +I am told, they plant vines only at the roots of the trees, and let +them cover the whole trees. But this spoils both the wine and the fruit. +Their wine, when distilled, yields but one-third its quantity in brandy. +The wages of a laboring man here are five louis; of a woman, one half. +The women do not work with the hoe: they only weed the vines, the corn, +&c, and spin. They speak a patois very difficult to understand. I +passed some time at the Chateau de Laye-Epinaye. Monsieur de Laye has a +seignory of about fifteen thousand arpents, in pasture, corn, vines, +and wood. He has over this, as is usual, a certain jurisdiction, +both criminal and civil. But this extends only to the first crude +examination, which is before his judges. The subject is referred, +for final examination and decision, to the regular judicatures of the +country. The Seigneur is keeper of the peace on his domains. He +is therefore subject to the expenses of maintaining it. A criminal +prosecuted to sentence and execution costs M. de Laye about five +thousand livres. This is so burthensome to the Seigneurs, that they are +slack in criminal prosecutions. A good effect from a bad cause. Through +all Champagne, Burgundy, and the Beaujolois, the husbandry seems good, +except that they manure too little. This proceeds from the shortness of +their leases. The people of Burgundy and Beaujolois are well clothed, +and have the appearance of being well fed. But they experience all the +oppressions which result from the nature of the general government, and +from that of their particular tenures, and of the seignorial government +to which they are subject. What a cruel reflection, that a rich country +cannot long be a free one. M. de Laye has a Diana and Endymion, a very +superior morsel of sculpture by Michael Angelo Slodtz, done in 1740. The +wild gooseberry is in leaf; the wild pear and sweet-briar in bud. + +_Lyons_. There are some feeble remains here of an amphitheatre of two +hundred feet diameter, and of an aqueduct in brick. The Pont d'Ainay has +nine arches of forty feet from centre to centre. The piers are of six +feet. The almond is in bloom. + + +DAUPHINE. From _St. Fond_ to _Mornant_. March 15, 16, 17, 18. The Rhone +makes extensive plains, which lie chiefly on the eastern side, and are +often in two stages. Those of Montelimart are three,or four miles wide, +and rather good. Sometimes, as in the neighborhood of Vienne, the +hills come in precipices to the river, resembling then very much our +Susquehanna and its hill, except that the Susquehanna is ten times as +wide as the Rhone. The highlands are often very level. The soil both of +hill and plain, where there is soil, is generally tinged, more or less, +with red. The hills are sometimes mere masses of rock, sometimes a +mixture of loose stone and earth. The plains are always stony, and as +often as otherwise covered perfectly with a coat of round stones, of +the size of the fist, so as to resemble the remains of inundations, from +which all the soil has been carried away. Sometimes they are middling +good, sometimes barren. In the neighborhood of Lyons there is more corn +than wine. Towards Tains more wine than corn. From thence the plains, +where best, are in corn, clover, almonds, mulberries, walnuts: where +there is still some earth, they are in corn, almonds, and oaks. The +hills are in vines. There is a good deal of forest-wood near Lyons, +but not much afterwards. Scarcely any enclosures. There are a few small +sheep before we reach Tains; there the'number increases. + +Nature never formed a country of more savage aspect, than that on +both sides the Rhone. A huge torrent rushes like an arrow between high +precipices, often of massive rock, at other times of loose stone, with +but little earth. Yet has the hand of man subdued this savage scene, by +planting corn where there is a little fertility, trees where there is +still less, and vines where there is none. On the whole, it assumes a +romantic, picturesque, and pleasing air. The hills on the opposite +side of the river, being high, steep, and laid up in terraces, are of +a singular appearance. Where the hills are quite in waste, they are +covered with broom, whins, box, and some clusters of small pines. The +high mountains of Dauphine and Languedoc are now covered with snow. The +almond is in general bloom, and the willow putting out its leaf. There +were formerly olives at Tain; but a great cold, some years ago, killed +them, and they have not been replanted. I am told at Montelimart, that +an almond tree yields about three livres profit a year. Supposing them +three toises apart, there will be one hundred to the arpent, which +gives three hundred livres a year, besides the corn growing on the same +ground. A league below Vienne, on the opposite side of the river, is +Cote Rotie. It is a string of broken hills, extending a league on the +river, from the village of Ampuis to the town of Condrieu. The soil +is white, tinged a little, sometimes, with yellow, sometimes with red, +stony, poor, and laid up in terraces. Those parts of the hills only, +which look to the sun at mid-day, or the earlier hours of the afternoon, +produce wines of the first quality. Seven hundred vines, three feet +apart, yield a _feuillette_, which is about two and a half _pieces_, +to the arpent. The best red wine is produced at the upper end, in the +neighborhood of Ampuis; the best white, next to Condrieu. They sell of +the first quality and last vintage, at one hundred and fifty livres the +_piece_, equal to twelve sous the bottle. Transportation to Paris is +sixty livres, and the bottle four sous; so it may be delivered at Paris +in bottles, at twenty sous. When old, it costs ten or eleven louis the +_piece_. There is a quality which keeps well, bears transportation, and +cannot be drunk under four years. Another must be drunk at a year old. +They are equal in flavor and price. + +The wine called Hermitage, is made on the hills impending over the +village of Tain; on one of which is the hermitage which gives name to +the hills for about two miles, and to the wine made on them. There are +but three of those hills which produce wine of the first quality, and +of these, the middle regions only. They are about three hundred feet +perpendicular height, three quarters of a mile in length, and have a +southern aspect. The soil is scarcely tinged red, consists of small +rotten stone, and is, where the best wine is made, without any +perceptible mixture of earth. It is in sloping terraces. They use a +little dung. An _homme de vignes_, which consists of seven hundred +plants, three feet apart, yields generally about three quarters of a +_piece_, which is nearly four _pieces_ to the arpent. When new, the +piece is sold at about two hundred and twenty-five livres; when old, at +three hundred. It cannot be drunk under four years, and improves fastest +in a hot situation. There is so little white made in proportion to the +red, that it is difficult to buy it separate. They make the white sell +the red. If bought separately, it is from fifteen to sixteen louis the +piece, new, and three livres the bottle, old. To give quality to +the red, they mix one eighth of white grapes. Portage to Paris is +seventy-two livres the piece, weighing six hundred pounds. There are but +about one thousand _pieces_ of both red and white, of the first quality, +made annually. Vineyards are never rented here, nor are laborers in the +vineyard hired by the year. They leave buds proportioned to the strength +of the vine, sometimes as much as fifteen inches. The last hermit died +in 1751. + +In the neighborhood of Montelimart, and below that, they plant vines in +rows, six, eight, or ten feet apart, and two feet asunder in the row, +filling the intervals with corn. Sometimes the vines are in double rows, +two feet apart. I saw single asses in ploughs proportioned to their +strength. There are few chateaux in this province. The people, too, +are mostly gathered into villages. There are, however, some scattering +farm-houses. These are made either of mud, or of round stone and mud. +They make enclosures also, in both those ways. Day-laborers receive, +sixteen or eighteen sous the day, and feed themselves. Those by the year +receive, men three louis, women half that, and are fed. They rarely eat +meat; a single hog, salted, being the year's stock for a family. But +they have plenty of cheese, eggs, potatoes, and other vegetables, and +walnut oil with their salad. It is a trade here, to gather dung along +the road for their vines. This proves they have few cattle. I have seen +neither hares nor partridges since I left Paris, nor wild fowl on any +of the rivers. The roads from Lyons to St. Rambert are neither paved +nor gravelled. After that, they are coated with broken flint. The +ferry-boats on the Rhone and the Isere, are moved by the stream, and +very rapidly. On each side of the river is a moveable stage, one end of +which is on an axle and two wheels, which, according to the tide, can +be advanced or withdrawn, so as to apply to the gunwale of the boat. The +Praetorian Palace at Vienne, is forty-four feet wide, of the Corinthian +order, four columns in front, and four in flank. It was begun in the +year 400, and finished by Charlemagne. + +The sepulchral Pyramid, a little way out of the town, has an order for +its basement, the pedestal of which, from point to point of its cap, +is twenty-four feet, one inch. At each angle, is a column, engaged one +fourth in the wall. The circumference of the three fourths disengaged, +is four feet four inches; consequently, the diameter is twenty-three +inches. The base of the column indicates it to be Ionic, but the +capitals are not formed. The cornice, too, is a bastard Ionic, without +modillions or dentils. Between the columns, on each side, is an arch of +eight feet, four inches, opening with a pilaster on each side of it. On +the top of the basement is a zocle, in the plane of the frieze below. +On that is the pyramid, its base in the plane of the collarins of the +pilaster below. The pyramid is a little truncated on its top. This +monument is inedited. + +March 18. _Principality of Orange_. The plains on the Rhone here, are +two or three leagues wide, reddish, good, in corn, clover, almonds, +olives. No forests. Here begins the country of olives, there being very +few till we enter this principality. They are the only tree which I see +planted among vines. Thyme grows wild here on the hills. Asses, very +small, sell here for two or three louis. The high hills in Dauphine are +covered with snow. The remains of the Roman aqueduct are of brick: a +fine piece of Mosaic, still on its bed, forming the floor of a cellar. +Twenty feet of it still visible. They are taking down the circular wall +of the Amphitheatre to pave a road. + + +March 19 to 23. LANGUEDOC. _Pont-St.-Esprit. Bagnols. Connaux. +Valignitres. Remoulins. St. Gervasy. Vismes. Pont d'Aries._ To +Remoulins, there is a mixture of hill and dale. Thence to Nismes, hills +on the right, on the left, plains extending to the Rhone and the sea. +The hills are rocky. Where there is soil, it is reddish and poor. The +-plains generally reddish and good, but stony. When you approach the +Rhone, going to Arles, the soil becomes a dark gray loam with some sand, +and very good. The culture is corn, clover, saintfoin, olives, vines, +mulberries, willow, and some almonds. There is no forest. The hills are +enclosed in dry stone-wall. Many sheep. + +From the summit of the first hill, after leaving Pont-St.-Esprit, there +is a beautiful view of the bridge at about two miles' distance, and a +fine landscape of the country both ways. From thence, an excellent +road, judiciously conducted, through very romantic scenes. In one part, +descending the face of a hill, it is laid out in serpentine, and not +zigzag, to ease the descent. In others, it passes through a winding +meadow, from fifty to one hundred yards wide, walled, as it were, on +both sides, by hills of rock; and at length issues into plain country. +The waste hills are covered with thyme, box, and chene-vert. Where the +body of the mountains has a surface of soil, the summit has sometimes a +crown of rock, as observed in Champagne. At Nismes, the earth is full of +lime-stone. The horses are shorn. They are now pruning the olive. A very +good tree produces sixty pounds of olives, which yield fifteen pounds of +oil: the best quality selling at twelve sous the pound, retail, and ten +sous, wholesale. The high hills of Languedoc still covered with snow. +The horse-chestnut and mulberry are leafing; apple trees and peas +blossoming. The first butterfly I have seen. After the vernal equinox, +they are often six or eight months without rain. Many separate +farm-houses, numbers of people in rags, and abundance of beggars. The +_mine_ of wheat, weighing thirty pounds, costs four livres and ten +sous. Wheat bread, three sous the pound. _Vin ordinaire_, good, and of +a strong body, two or three sous the bottle. Oranges, one sous +apiece. They are nearly finishing at Nismes a great mill, worked by a +steam-engine, which pumps water from a lower into an upper cistern, from +whence two overshot wheels are supplied, each of which turns two pair +of stones. The upper cistern being once filled with water, it passes +through the wheels into the lower one, from whence it is returned to the +upper by the pumps. A stream of water of one quarter or one half inch +diameter, supplies the waste of evaporation, absorption, fee. This is +furnished from a well by a horse. The arches of the Pont-St.-Esprit +are of eighty-eight feet. Wild figs, very flourishing, grow out of the +joints of the Pont-du-Gard. The fountain of Nismes is so deep, that a +stone was thirteen seconds descending from the surface to the bottom. + +March 24. From Nismes to Arles. The plains extending from Nismes to the +Rhone, in the direction of Aries, are broken in one place by a skirt +of low hills. They are red and stony at first, but as you approach the +Rhone, they are of a dark gray mould, with a little sand, and very good. +They are in corn and clover, vines, olives, almonds, mulberries, and +willow. There are some sheep, no wood, no enclosures. + +The high hills of Languedoc are covered with snow. At an ancient church, +in the suburbs of Aries, are some hundreds of ancient stone coffins, +along the road-side. The ground is thence called _Les Champs Elysees_. +In a vault in a church, are some curiously wrought, and in a back yard +are many ancient statues, inscriptions, &c. Within the town are a part +of two Corinthian columns, and of the pediment with which they were +crowned, very rich, having belonged to the ancient capitol of the place. + +But the principal monument here, is an amphitheatre, the external +portico of which is tolerably complete. How many porticoes there were, +cannot be seen; but at one of the principal gates there are still five, +measuring, from out to in, seventy-eight feet, ten inches, the vault +diminishing inwards. There are sixty-four arches, each of which is, from +centre to centre, twenty feet, six inches. Of course, the diameter is of +four hundred and thirty-eight feet; or of four hundred and fifty feet, +if we suppose the four principal arches a little larger than the rest. +The ground floor is supported on innumerable vaults. The first story, +externally, has a tall pedestal, like a pilaster, between every two +arches; the upper story, a column, the base of which would indicate it +Corinthian. Every column is truncated as low as the impost of the arch, +but the arches are all entire. The whole of the upper entablature is +gone, and of the Attic, if there was one. Not a single seat of the +internal is visible. The whole of the inside, and nearly the whole +of the outside, is masked by buildings. It is supposed there are one +thousand inhabitants within the amphitheatre. The walls are more entire +and firm than those of the _ampitheatre_ at Nismes. I suspect its plan and +distribution to have been very different from that. + +_Terrasson_. The plains of the Rhone from Arles to this place, are +a league or two wide; the mould is of a dark gray, good, in corn and +lucerne. Neither wood, nor enclosures. Many sheep. + +_St. Remy_. From Terrasson to St. Remy, is a plain of a league or two +wide, bordered by broken hills of massive rock. It is gray and stony, +mostly in olives. Some almonds, mulberries, willows, vines, corn, and +lucerne. Many sheep. No forest, nor enclosures. + +A laboring man's wages here, are one hundred and fifty livres, a woman's +half, and fed. Two hundred and eighty pounds of wheat sell for forty-two +livres. They make no butter here. It costs, when brought, fifteen sous +the pound. Oil is ten sous the pound. Tolerably good olive trees yield, +one with another, about twenty pounds of oil. An olive tree must be +twenty years old before it has paid its own expenses. It lasts for ever. +In 1765, it was so cold, that the Rhone was frozen over at Aries for two +months. In 1767, there was a cold spell of a week, which killed all the +olive trees. From being fine weather, in one hour there was ice hard +enough to bear a horse. It killed people on the road. The old roots of +the olive trees put out again. Olive grounds sell for twenty-four livres +a tree, and lease at twenty-four sous the tree. The trees are fifteen +pieds apart. But lucerne is a more profitable culture. An arpent yields +one hundred quintals of hay a year, worth three livres the quintal. +It is cut four or five times a year. It is sowed in the broadcast, and +lasts five or six years. An arpent of ground for corn rents at from +thirty to thirty-six livres. Their leases are for six or nine years. +They plant willow for fire-wood, and for hoops to their casks. It +seldom rains here in summer. There are some chateaux, many separate +farm-houses, good, and ornamented in the small way, so as to show +that the tenant's whole time is not occupied in procuring physical +necessaries. + +March 25. _Orgon. Pontroyal. St. Cannat_. From Orgon to Pontroyal, after +quitting the plains of the Rhone, the country seems still to be a plain, +cut into compartments by chains of mountains of massive rock, running +through it in various directions. From Pontroyal to St. Cannat, the land +lies rather in basins. The soil is very various, gray and clay, gray and +stony, red and stony; sometimes good, sometimes middling, often barren. +We find some golden willows. Towards Pontroyal, the hills begin to be +in vines and afterwards in some pasture of greensward and clover. About +Orgon are some enclosures of quick-set, others of conical yews planted +close. Towards St. Cannat, they begin to be of stone. + +The high mountains are covered with snow. Some separate farm-houses of +mud. Near Pontroyal is a canal for watering the country; one branch goes +to Terrasson, the other to Arles. + +March 25, 26, 27, 28. _Aix_. The country is waving, in vines, pasture +of greensward and clover, much enclosed with stone, and abounding with +sheep. + +On approaching Aix, the valley which opens from thence towards the mouth +of the Rhone and the sea, is rich and beautiful; a perfect grove of +olive trees, mixed among which are corn, lucerne, and vines. The waste +grounds throw out thyme and lavender. Wheat bread is three sous the +pound. Cow's milk sixteen sous the quart, sheep's milk six sous, butter +of sheep's milk twenty sous the pound. Oil, of the best quality, is +twelve sous the pound, and sixteen sous if it be virgin oil. This +is what runs from the olive when put into the press, spontaneously; +afterwards they are forced by the press and by hot water. Dung costs ten +sous the one hundred pounds. Their fire-wood is chene-vert and willow. +The latter is lopped every three years. An ass sells for from one to +three louis; the best mules for thirty louis. The best asses will carry +two hundred pounds; the best horses three hundred pounds; the best mules +six hundred pounds. The temperature of the mineral waters of Aix is 90 deg. +of Fahrenheit's thermometer, at the spout. A mule eats half as much as +a horse. The allowance to an ass for the day, is a handful of bran mixed +with straw. The price of mutton and beef, about six and a half sous the +pound. The beef comes from Auvergne, and is poor and bad. The mutton +is small, but of excellent flavor. The wages of a laboring man are one +hundred and fifty livres the year, a woman's sixty to sixty-six livres, +and fed. Their bread is half wheat, half rye, made once in three or four +weeks, to prevent too great a consumption. In the morning they eat bread +with an anchovy, or an onion. Their dinner in the middle of the day +is bread, soup, and vegetables. Their supper the same. With their +vegetables, they have always oil and vinegar. The oil costs about eight +sous the pound. They drink what is called _piquette_. This is made after +the grapes are pressed, by pouring hot water on the pumice. On Sunday +they have meat and wine. Their wood for building comes mostly from the +Alps, down the Durance and Rhone. A stick of pine, fifty feet long, +girting six feet and three inches at one end, and three feet three +inches at the other, costs, delivered here, from fifty-four to sixty +livres. Sixty pounds of wheat cost seven livres. One of their little +asses will travel with his burthen about five or six leagues a day, and +day by day; a mule from six to eight leagues.* + + * It is twenty American miles from Aix to Marseilles, and + they call it five leagues. Their league, then, is of four + American miles. + +March 29. Marseilles. The country is hilly, intersected by chains of +hills and mountains of massive rock. The soil is reddish, stony, and +indifferent where best. Wherever there is any soil, it is covered +with olives. Among these are corn, vines, some lucerne, mulberry, some +almonds, and willow. Neither enclosures, nor forest. A very few sheep. + +On the road I saw one of those little whirlwinds which we have in +Virginia, also some gullied hill-sides. The people are in separate +establishments. Ten morning observations of the thermometer, from the +20th to the 31st of March inclusive, made at Nismes, St. Remy, Aix, +and Marseilles, give me an average of 52 1/2 deg., and 46 deg. and 61 deg., for the +greatest and least morning heats. Nine afternoon observations, yield an +average of 62 2/3 deg., and 57 deg. and 66 deg., the greatest and least. The longest +day here, from sunrise to sunset, is fifteen hours and fourteen minutes; +the shortest is eight hours and forty-six minutes; the latitude being +---------. + +There are no tides in the Mediterranean. It is observed to me, that the +olive tree grows nowhere more than thirty leagues distant from that sea. +I suppose, however, that both Spain and Portugal furnish proofs to the +contrary, and doubt its truth as to Asia, Africa, and America. They are +six or eight months at a time, here, without rain. The most delicate +figs known in Europe, are those growing about this place, called _figues +Marseilloises_, or _les veritables Marseilloises_, to distinguish them +from others of inferior quality growing here. These keep any length of +time. All others exude a sugar in the spring of the year, and become +sour. The only process for preserving them, is drying them in the sun, +without putting any thing to them whatever. They sell at fifteen sous +the pound, while there are others as cheap as five sous the pound. I +meet here a small dried grape from Smyrna, without a seed. There are few +of the plants growing in this neighborhood. The best grape for drying, +known here, is called _des Panses_. They are very large, with a thick +skin and much juice. They are best against a wall of southern aspect, as +their abundance of juice requires a great deal of sun to dry it. Pretty +good fig trees are about the size of the apricot tree, and yield about +twenty pounds of figs when dry, each. But the largest will yield the +value of a louis. They are sometimes fifteen inches in diameter. It is +said that the Marseilles fig degenerates when transported into any other +part of the country. The leaves of the mulberry tree will sell for about +three livres, the purchaser gathering them. The caper is a creeping +plant. It is killed to the roots every winter. In the spring it puts out +branches, which creep to the distance of three feet from the centre. The +fruit forms on the stem, as that extends itself, and must be gathered +every day, as it forms. This is the work of women. The pistache grows in +this neighborhood also, but not very good. They eat them in their milky +state. Monsieur de Bergasse has a wine-cellar two hundred and forty +_pieds_ long, in which are one hundred and twenty tons, of from fifty to +one hundred _pieces_ each. These tons are twelve _pieds_ diameter, the +staves four inches thick, the heading two and a half _pouces_ thick. The +temperature of his cellar is of 9 1/2 deg. of Reaumur. The best method of +packing wine, when bottled, is to lay the bottles on their side, and +cover them with sand. The 2d of April, the young figs are formed; the +4th we have Windsor beans. They have had asparagus ever since the middle +of March. The 5th, I see strawberries and the Guelder rose in blossom. +To preserve the raisin, it is first dipped into ley, and then dried in +the sun. The aloe grows in the open ground. I measure a mule, not +the largest, five feet and two inches high. Marseilles is in an +amphitheatre, at the mouth of the Veaune, surrounded by high mountains +of naked rock, distant two or three leagues. The country within that +amphitheatre is a mixture of small hills, vallies, and plains. The +latter are naturally rich. The hills and vallies are forced into +production. Looking from the _Chateau de Notre Dame de la Garde_, it +would seem as if there was a _bastide_ for every arpent. The plain-lands +sell for one hundred louis the _carterelle_, which is less than an acre. +The ground of the arsenal in Marseilles sold for from fifteen to forty +louis the square verge, being nearly the square yard English. In the +fields open to the sea, they are obliged to plant rows of canes, every +here and there, to break the force of the wind. Saw at the Chateau +Borelli pumps worked by the wind. + +April 6. From _Marseilles_ to _Aubagne_. A valley on the Veaune, +bordered on each side by high mountains of massive rock, on which +are only some small pines. The interjacent valley is of small hills, +vallies, and plains, reddish, gravelly, and originally poor, but +fertilized by art, and covered with corn, vines, olives, figs, almonds, +mulberries, lucerne, and clover. The river is twelve or fifteen feet +wide, one or two feet deep, and rapid. + +From _Aubagne_ to _Cuges, Beausset, Toulon_. The road, quitting the +Veaune and its wealthy valley, a little after Aubagne, enters those +mountains of rock, and is engaged with them about a dozen miles. Then it +passes six or eight miles through a country still very hilly and stony, +but laid up in terraces, covered with olives, vines, and corn. It +then follows for two or three miles a hollow between two of those +high mountains, which has been, found or made by a small stream. +The mountains then reclining a little from their perpendicular, and +presenting a coat of soil, reddish, and tolerably good, have given place +to the little village of Olioules, in the gardens of which are oranges +in the open ground. It continues hilly till we enter the plain of +Toulon. On different parts of this road there are figs in the open +fields. At Cuges is a plain of about three fourths of a mile diameter, +surrounded by high mountains of rock. In this the caper is principally +cultivated. The soil is mulatto, gravelly, and of middling quality, or +rather indifferent. The plants are set in _quincunx_, about eight feet +apart. They have been covered during winter by a hill of earth a foot +high. They are now enclosing, pruning, and ploughing them. + +_Toulon_. From Olioules to Toulon the figs are in the open fields. Some +of them have stems of fifteen inches diameter. They generally fork near +the ground, but sometimes have a single stem of five feet long. They +are as large as apricot trees. The olive trees of this day's journey +are about the size of large apple trees. The people are in separate +establishments. Toulon is in a valley at the mouth of the Goutier, a +little river of the size of the Veaune; surrounded by high mountains of +naked rock, leaving some space between them and the sea. This space is +hilly, reddish, gravelly, and of middling quality, in olives, vines, +corn, almonds, figs, and capers. The capers are planted eight feet +apart. A bush yields, one year with another, two pounds, worth twelve +sous the pound. Every plant, then, yields twenty-four sous, equal to +one shilling sterling. An acre, containing six hundred and seventy-six +plants, would yield thirty-three pounds sixteen shillings sterling. The +fruit is gathered by women, who can gather about twelve pounds a day. +They begin to gather about the last of June, and end about the middle of +October. Each plant must be picked every day. These plants grow equally +well in the best or worst soil, or even in the walls, where there is no +soil. They will last the life of a man, or longer. The heat is so great +at Toulon in summer, as to occasion very great cracks in the earth. +Where the caper is in a soil that will admit it, they plough it. They +have pease here through the winter, sheltering them occasionally; and +they have had them ever since the 25th of March, without shelter. + +April 6. _Hieres_. This is a plain of two or three miles diameter, +bounded by the sea on one side, and mountains of rock on the other. The +soil is reddish, gravelly, tolerably good, and well watered. It is in +olives, mulberries, vines, figs, corn, and some flax. There are also +some cherry trees. From Hieres to the sea, which is two or three miles, +is a grove of orange trees, olives, and mulberries. The largest orange +tree is of two feet diameter one way, and one foot the other (for the +section of all the larger ones would be an oval, not a round), and about +twenty feet high. Such a tree will yield about six thousand oranges a +year. The garden of M. Fille has fifteen thousand six hundred orange, +trees. Some years they yield forty thousand livres, some only ten +thousand; but generally about twenty-five thousand. The trees are from +eight to ten feet apart. They are blossoming and bearing, all the year, +flowers and fruit in every stage at the same time. But the best fruit +is that which is gathered in April and May. Hieres is a village of about +five thousand inhabitants, at the foot of a mountain, which covers it +from the north, and from which extends a plain of two or three miles to +the sea-shore. It has no port. Here are palm trees twenty or thirty feet +high, but they bear no fruit. There is also a botanical garden kept by +the King. Considerable salt-ponds here. Hieres is six miles from the +public road. It is built on a narrow spur of the mountain. The streets +in every direction are steep, in steps of stairs, and about eight feet +wide. No carriage of any kind can enter it. The wealthier inhabitants +use _chaises a porteurs_. But there are few wealthy, the bulk of the +inhabitants being laborers of the earth. At a league's distance in the +sea is an island, on which is the Chateau de Geans, belonging to the +Marquis de Pontoives: there is a causeway leading to it. The cold of the +last November killed the leaves of a great number of the orange-trees, +and some of the trees themselves. + +From Hieres to _Cuers, Pignans, Luc_, is mostly a plain, with mountains +on each hand at a mile or two distance. The soil is generally reddish, +and the latter part very red and good. The growth is olives, figs, +vines, mulberries, corn, clover, and lucerne. The olive trees are +from three to four feet in diameter. There are hedges of pomegranates, +sweet-briar, and broom. A great deal of thyme growing wild. There are +some enclosures of stone; some sheep and goats. + +April 9. From Luc to _Vidavban, Muy, Frejus_, the road leads through +vallies, and crosses occasionally the mountains which separate them. The +vallies are tolerably good, always red and stony, gravelly or gritty. +Their produce as before. The mountains are barren. + +_Lesterelle, Napoule_. Eighteen miles of ascent and descent of a very +high mountain. Its growth, where capable of any, two-leaved pine, very +small, and some chene vert. + +_Antibes, Nice_. From Napoule the road is generally near the sea, +passing over little hills or strings of vallies, the soil stony, and +much below mediocrity in its quality. Here and there is a good plain. + +There is snow on the high mountains. The first frogs I have heard are +of this day (the 9th). At Antibes are oranges in the open ground, but +in small enclosures; palm trees also. From thence to the Var are +the largest fig trees and olive trees I have seen. The fig trees are +eighteen inches in diameter, and six feet stem; the olives sometimes +six feet in diameter, and as large heads as the largest low-ground apple +trees. This tree was but a shrub where I first fell in with it, and +has become larger and larger to this place. The people are mostly in +villages. The several provinces, and even cantons, are distinguished +by the form of the women's hats, so that one may know of what canton a +woman is by her hat. + +_Nice_. The pine-bur is used here for kindling fires. The people are in +separate establishments. With respect to the orange, there seems to +be no climate on this side of the Alps sufficiently mild in itself +to preserve it without shelter. At Olioules they are between two high +mountains; at Hieres covered on the north by a very high mountain; +at Antibes and Nice covered by mountains, and also within small, high +enclosures. _Quaere_. To trace the true line from east to west, which +forms the northern and natural limit of that fruit? Saw an elder tree +(sambucus) near Nice, fifteen inches in diameter, and eight feet stem. +The wine made in this neighborhood is good, though not of the first +quality. There are one thousand mules, loaded with merchandise, which +pass every week between Nice and Turin, counting those coming as well as +going. + +April 13. _Scarena. Sospello_. There are no orange trees after we leave +the environs of Nice. We lose the olive after rising a little above the +village of Scarena, on Mount Braus, and find it again on the other side, +a little before we get down to Sospello. But wherever there is soil +enough it is terraced, and in corn. The waste parts are either in +two-leaved pine and thyme, or of absolutely naked rock. Sospello is on +a little torrent, called Bevera, which runs into the river Roia, at the +mouth of which is Ventimiglia. The olive trees on the mountain are now +loaded with fruit; while some at Sospello are in blossom. Fire-wood here +and at Scarena costs fifteen sous the quintal. + +April 14. _Ciandola. Tende_. In crossing Mount Brois we lose the olive +tree after getting to a certain height, and find it again on the other +side at the village of Breglio. Here we come to the river Roia, which, +after receiving the branch on which is Sospello, leads to the sea at +Ventimiglia. The Roia is about twelve yards wide, and abounds with +speckled trout. Were a road made from Breglio, along the side of the +Roia to Ventimiglia, it might turn the commerce of Turin to this last +place instead of Nice; because it would avoid the mountains of Braus and +Brois, leaving only that of Tende; that is to say, it would avoid more +than half the difficulties of the passage. Further on, we come to the +Chateau di Saorgio, where a scene is presented the most singular and +picturesque I ever saw. The castle and village seem hanging to a cloud +in front. On the right is a mountain cloven through, to let pass +a gurgling stream; on the left, a river, over which is thrown a +magnificent bridge. The whole forms a basin, the sides of which are +shagged with rocks, olive trees, vines, herds, &c. Near here I saw +a tub-wheel without a ream; the trunk descended from the top of +the water-fall to the wheel in a direct line, but with the usual +inclination. The produce along this passage is most generally olives, +except on the heights as before observed; also corn, vines, mulberries, +figs, cherries, and walnuts. They have cows, goats, and sheep. In +passing on towards Tende, olives fail us ultimately at the village of +Fontan, and there the chestnut trees begin in good quantity. +Ciandola consists of only two houses, both taverns. Tende is a very +inconsiderable village, in which they have not yet the luxury of glass +windows: nor in any of the villages on this passage have they yet +the fashion of powdering the hair. Common stone and limestone are so +abundant, that the apartments of every story are vaulted with stone to +save wood. + +April 15. _Limone. Coni_. I see abundance of lime-stone as far as the +earth is uncovered with snow; i.e. within half or three quarters of an +hour's walk of the top. The snows descend much lower on the eastern +than western side. Wherever there is soil, there is corn quite to the +commencement of the snows, and I suppose under them also. The waste +parts are in two-leaved pine, lavender, and thyme. From the foot of +the mountain to Coni the road follows a branch of the Po, the plains of +which begin narrow, and widen at length into a general plain country, +bounded on one side by the Alps. They are good, dark-colored, sometimes +tinged with red, and in pasture, corn, mulberries, and some almonds. The +hill-sides bordering these plains are reddish, and where they admit of +it are in corn; but this is seldom. They are mostly in chestnut, and +often absolutely barren. The whole of the plains are plentifully watered +from the river, as is much of the hill-side. A great deal of golden +willow all along the rivers on the whole of this passage through the +Alps. The southern parts of France, but still more the passage through +the Alps, enable one to form a scale of the tenderer plants, arranging +them according to their several powers of resisting cold. Ascending +three different mountains, Braus, Brois, and Tende, they disappear one +after another: and descending on the other side, they show themselves +again one after another. This is their order, from the tenderest to the +hardiest. Caper, orange, palm, aloe, olive, pomegranate, walnut, fig, +almond. But this must be understood of the plant; for as to the +fruit, the order is somewhat different. The caper, for example, is the +tenderest plant, yet being so easily protected, it is the most certain +in its fruit. The almond, the hardiest plant, loses its fruit the +oftenest on account of its forwardness. The palm, hardier than the caper +and the orange, never produces perfect fruit in these parts. Coni is a +considerable town, and pretty well built. It is walled. + +April 16. _Centale. Savigliano. Racconigi. Poirino. Turin_. The Alps, +as far as they are in view from north to south, show the gradation of +climate by the line which terminates the snows lying on them. This +line begins at their foot northwardly, and rises as they pass on to +the south, so as to be half way up their sides on the most southern +undulations of the mountain now in view. From the mountains to Turin we +see no tree tenderer than the walnut. Of these, as well as of almonds +and mulberries, there are a few: somewhat more of vines, but most +generally willows and poplars. Corn is sowed with all these. They mix +with them also clover and small grass. The country is a general plain; +the soil dark, and sometimes, though rarely, reddish. It is rich, and +much infested with wild onions. At Racconigi I see the tops and shocks +of maize, which prove it is cultivated here: but it can be in small +quantities only, because I observe very little ground but what has +already something else in it. Here and there are small patches prepared, +I suppose, for maize. They have a method of planting the vine, which I +have not seen before. At intervals of about eight feet they plant from +two to six plants of vine in a cluster At each cluster they fix a forked +staff, the plane of the prongs of the fork at a right angle with the +row of vines. Athwart these prongs they lash another staff, like a +handspike, about eight feet long, horizontally, seven or eight feet from +the ground. Of course, it crosses the rows at right angles. The vines +are brought from the foot of the fork up to this cross-piece, turned +over it, and conducted along over the next, the next, and so on, as far +as they will extend, the whole forming an arbor eight feet wide and high +and of the whole length of the row, little interrupted by the stems of +the vines, which being close around the fork, pass up through hoops, so +as to occupy a space only of small diameter. All the buildings in this +country are of brick, sometimes covered with plaister, sometimes not. +There is a very large and handsome bridge, of seven arches, over the +torrent of Sangone. We cross the Po in swinging batteaux. Two are placed +side by side, and kept together by a plank-floor, common to both, and +lying on the gunwales. The carriage drives on this, without taking out +any of the horses. About one hundred and fifty yards up the river is a +fixed stake, and a rope tied to it, the other end of which is made fast +to one side of the batteaux, so as to throw them oblique to the current. +The stream then acting on them, as on an inclined plane, forces them +across the current in the portion of a circle, of which the rope is +the radius. To support the rope in its whole length, there are two +intermediate canoes, about fifty yards apart, in the heads of which are +short masts. To the top of these the rope is lashed, the canoes being +free otherwise to concur with the general vibration in their smaller +arcs of circles. The Po is there about fifty yards wide, and about one +hundred in the neighborhood of Turin. + +April 17, 18. _Turin_. The first nightingale I have heard this year is +to-day (18th). There is a red wine of Nebiule made in this neighborhood, +which is very singular. It is about as sweet as the silky Madeira, as +astringent on the palate as Bordeaux, and as brisk as Champagne. It is a +pleasing wine. At Moncaglieri, about six miles from Turin, on the right +side of the Po, begins a ridge of mountains, which, following the Po +by Turin, after some distance, spreads wide, and forms the duchy of +Montferrat. The soil is mostly red, and in vines, affording a wine +called Montferrat, which is thick and strong. + +April 19. _Settimo. Chivasso. Ciliano. S. Germano. Vercelli_. The +country continues plain and rich, the soil black. The culture, corn, +pasture, maize, vines, mulberries, walnuts, some willow, and poplar. +The maize bears a very small proportion to the small grain. The earth is +formed into ridges from three to four feet wide, and the maize sowed in +the broad-cast, on the higher parts of the ridge, so as to cover a third +or half of the whole surface. It is sowed late in May. This country +is plentifully and beautifully watered at present. Much of it is by +torrents, which are dry in summer. These torrents make a great deal +of waste ground, covering it with sand and stones. These wastes are +sometimes planted in trees, sometimes quite unemployed. They make hedges +of willows, by setting the plants from one to three feet apart. When +they are grown to the height of eight or ten feet, they bend them down, +and interlace them one with another. I do not see any of these, however, +which are become old. Probably, therefore, they soon die. The women here +smite on the anvil, and work with the maul and spade. The people of this +country are ill dressed in comparison with those of France, and there +are more spots of uncultivated ground. The plough here is made with a +single handle, which is a beam twelve feet long, six inches in diameter +below, and tapered to about two inches at the upper end. They use goads +for the oxen, not whips. The first swallows I have seen are to-day. +There is a wine called Gatina, made in the neighborhood of Vercelli, +both red and white. The latter resembles Calcavallo. There is also a +red wine of Salusola, which is esteemed. It is very light. In the +neighborhood of Vercelli begin the rice-fields. The water with which +they are watered is very dear. They do not permit rice to be sown within +two miles of the cities, on account of the insalubrity. Notwithstanding +this, when the water is drawn off the fields, in August, the whole +country is subject to agues and fevers. They estimate, that the same +measure of ground yields three times as much rice as wheat, and with +half the labor. They are now sowing. As soon as sowed, they let on the +water two or three inches deep. After six weeks, or two months, they +draw it off to weed; then let it on again, and it remains till August, +when it is drawn off, about three or four weeks before the grain is +ripe. In September they cut it. It is first threshed; then beaten in +the mortar to separate the husk; then, by different siftings, it is +separated into three qualities. Twelve rupes, equal to three hundred +pounds of twelve ounces each, sell for sixteen livres, money of +Piedmont, where the livre is exactly the shilling of England. Twelve +rupes of maize sell for nine livres. The machine for separating the +husk is thus made. In the axis of a water-wheel are a number of arms +inserted, which, as they revolve, catches each the cog of a pestle, +lifts it to a certain height, and lets it fall again. These pestles are +five and a quarter inches square, ten feet long, and at their lower end +formed into a truncated cone of three inches diameter, where cut off. +The conical part is covered with iron. The pestles are ten and a half +inches apart in the clear. They pass through two horizontal beams, which +string them, as it were, together, and while the mortises in the beams +are so loose, as to let the pestles work vertically, it restrains them +to that motion. There is a mortar of wood, twelve or fifteen inches +deep, under each pestle, covered with a board, the hole of which is only +large enough to let the pestle pass freely. There are two arms in the +axis for every pestle, so that the pestle gives two strokes for every +revolution of the wheel. Poggio, a muleteer, who passes every week +between Vercelli and Genoa, will smuggle a sack of rough rice for me to, +Genoa; it being death to export it in that form. They have good cattle, +and in good number, mostly cream-colored; and some middle-sized sheep. +The streams furnish speckled trout. + +April 20. _Novara. Buffalora. Sedriano. Milan_. From Vercelli to +Novara the fields are all in rice, and now mostly under water. The +dams separating the several water-plats or ponds, are set in willow. At +Novara there are some figs in the gardens in situations well protected. +From Novara to the Ticino it is mostly stony and waste, grown up in +broom. From Ticino to Milan it is all in corn. Among the corn are +willows, principally, a good many mulberries, some walnuts, and here +and there an almond. The country still a plain, the soil black and rich, +except between Novara and the Ticino, as before mentioned. There is very +fine pasture round Vercelli and Novara to the distance of two miles, +within which rice is not permitted. We cross the Sisto on the same +kind of vibrating or pendulum boat as on the Po. The river is eighty +or ninety yards wide; the rope fastened to an island two hundred yards +above, and supported by five intermediate canoes. It is about one and a +half inches in diameter. On these rivers they use a short oar of twelve +feet long, the flat end of which is hooped with iron, shooting out +a prong at each corner, so that it may be used occasionally as a +setting-pole. There is snow on the Apennines, near Genoa. They have +still another method here of planting the vine. Along rows of trees, +they lash poles from tree to tree. Between the trees, are set vines, +which, passing over the pole, are carried on to the pole of the, +next tree, whose vines are in like manner brought to this, and twined +together; thus forming the intervals between the rows of trees, +alternately, into arbors and open space. They have another method also +of making quick-set hedges. Willows are planted from one to two feet +apart, and interlaced, so that every one is crossed by three or four +others. + +April 21, 22. _Milan_. Figs and pomegranates grow here, unsheltered, +as I am told. I saw none, and therefore suppose them rare. They had +formerly olives; but a great cold, in 1709, killed them, and they have +not been replanted. Among a great many houses painted _al fresco_, the +Casa Roma and Casa Candiani, by Appiani, and Casa Belgioiosa, by Martin, +are superior. In the second, is a small cabinet, the ceiling of which +is in small hexagons, within which are cameos and heads painted +alternately, no two the same. The _salon_ of the Casa-Belgioiosa is +superior to any thing 1 have ever seen. The mixture called _scagliuola_, +of which they make their walls and floors, is so like the finest marble, +as to be scarcely distinguishable from it. The nights of the 20th and +21st instant, the rice ponds froze half an inch thick. Droughts of two +or three months are not uncommon here, in summer. About five years ago, +there was such a hail as to kill cats. The Count del Verme tells me of +a pendulum odometer for the wheel of a carriage. Leases here are mostly +for nine years. Wheat costs a louis d'or the one hundred and forty +pounds. A laboring man receives sixty livres, and is fed and lodged. The +trade of this country is principally rice, raw silk, and cheese. + +April 23. _Casino_, five miles from Milan. I examined another +rice-beater of six pestles. They are eight feet nine inches long. Their +ends, instead of being a truncated cone, have nine teeth of iron, bound +closely together. Each tooth is a double pyramid, joined at the base. +When put together, they stand with the upper ends placed in contact, so +as to form them into one great cone, and the lower ends diverging. The +upper are socketed into the end of the pestle, and the lower, when a +little blunted by use, are not unlike the jaw-teeth of the mammoth, with +their studs. They say here, that pestles armed with these teeth, clean +the rice faster, and break it less. The mortar, too, is of stone, which +is supposed as good as wood, and more durable. One half of these +pestles are always up. They rise about twenty-one inches; and each makes +thirty-eight strokes in a minute; one hundred pounds of rough rice is +put into the six mortars, and beaten somewhat less than a quarter of +an hour. It is then taken out, put into a sifter of four feet diameter, +suspended horizontally; sifted there; shifted into another of the same +size; sifted there; returned to the mortars; beaten a little more than +a quarter of an hour; sifted again; and it is finished. The six pestles +will clear four thousand pounds in twenty-four hours. The pound here +is twenty-eight ounces: the ounce equal to that of Paris. The best rice +requires half an hour's boiling; a more indifferent kind, somewhat less. +To sow the rice, they first plough the ground, then level it with a +drag-harrow, and let on the water; when the earth has become soft, they +smooth it with a shovel under the water, and then sow the rice in the +water. + +_Rozzano_. Parmesan cheese. It is supposed this was formerly made at +Parma, and took its name thence; but none is made there now. It is made +through all the country extending from Milan, for one hundred and fifty +miles. The most is made about Lodi. The making of butter being connected +with that of making cheese, both must be described together. There are, +in the stables I saw, eighty-five cows, fed on hay and grass, not on +grain. They are milked twice in twenty-four hours, ten cows yielding +at the two milkings a _brenta_ of milk, which is twenty-four of our +gallons. The night's milk is scummed in the morning at daybreak, when +the cows are milked again, and the new milk mixed with the old. In three +hours, the whole mass is scummed a second time, the milk remaining in +a kettle for cheese, and the cream being put into a cylindrical churn, +shaped like a grind-stone, eighteen inches radius, and fourteen inches +thick. In this churn, there are three staves pointing inwardly, endwise, +to break the current of the milk. Through its centre passes an iron +axis, with a handle at each end. It is turned, about an hour and an +half, by two men, till the butter is produced. Then they pour off the +butter-milk, and put in some water which they agitate backwards and +forwards about a minute, and pour it off. They take out the butter, +press it with their hands into loaves, and stamp it. It has no other +washing. Sixteen American gallons of milk yield fifteen pounds of +butter, which sell at twenty-four sous the pound. + +The milk, which, after being scummed as before, had been put into +a copper kettle, receives its due quantity of rennet, and is gently +warmed, if the season requires it. In about four hours, it becomes a +slip. Then the whey begins to separate. A little, of it is taken out. +The curd is then thoroughly broken by a machine like a chocolate-mill. A +quarter of an ounce of saffron is put to seven brentas of milk, to +give color to the cheese. The kettle is then moved over the hearth, and +heated by a quick fire till the curd is hard enough, being broken into +small lumps by continued stirring. It is moved off the fire, most of the +whey taken out, the curd compressed into a globe by the hand, a linen +cloth slipped under it, and it is drawn out in that. A loose hoop is +then laid on a bench, and the curd, as wrapped in the linen, is put into +the hoop: it is a little pressed by the hand, the hoop drawn tight, +and made fast. A board, two inches thick, is laid on it, and a stone on +that, of about twenty pounds weight. In an hour, the whey is run off, +and the cheese finished. They sprinkle a little salt on it every other +day in summer, and every day in winter, for six weeks. Seven _brentas_ +of milk make a cheese of fifty pounds, which requires six months to +ripen, and is then dried to forty-five pounds. It sells on the spot for +eighty-eight livres, the one hundred pounds. There are now one hundred +and fifty cheeses in this dairy. They are nineteen inches diameter, and +six inches thick. They make a cheese a day, in summer, and two in three +days, or one in two days, in winter. + +The whey is put back into the kettle, the butter-milk poured into it, +and of this, they make a poor cheese for the country people. The whey of +this is given to the hogs. Eight men suffice to keep the cows, and to do +all the business of this dairy. _Mascarponi_, a kind of curd, is made +by pouring some butter-milk into cream, which is thereby curdled, and is +then pressed in a linen cloth. + +The ice-houses at Rozzano are dug about fifteen feet deep, and twenty +feet diameter, and poles are driven down all round. A conical thatched +roof is then put over them, fifteen feet high, and pieces of wood are +laid at bottom, to keep the ice out of the water which drips from it, +and goes off by a sink. Straw is laid on this wood, and then the house +filled with ice, always putting straw between the ice and the walls, and +covering ultimately with straw. About a third is lost by melting. Snow +gives the most delicate flavor to creams; but ice is the most +powerful congealer, and lasts longest. A tuft of trees surrounds these +ice-houses. + +Round Milan, to the distance of five miles, are corn, pasture, gardens, +mulberries, willows, and vines. For, in this state, rice ponds are not +permitted within five miles of the cities. + +_Binasco. Pavia_. Near Casino the rice-ponds begin, and continue to +within five miles of Pavia, the whole ground being in rice, pasture, and +willows. The pasture is in the rice grounds which are resting. In the +neighborhood of Pavia, again, are corn, pasture, &c. as round Milan. +They gave me green pease at Pavia. + +April 24. _Voghera. Tortona. Novi_. From Pavia to Novi corn, pasture, +vines, mulberries, willows; but no rice. The country continues plain, +except that the Apennines are approaching on the left. The soil, always +good, is dark till we approach Novi, and then red. We cross the Po where +it is three hundred yards wide, in a pendulum boat. The rope is fastened +on one side of the river, three hundred yards above, and supported by +eight intermediate canoes, with little masts in them to give a greater +elevation to the rope. We pass in eleven minutes. Women, girls, and boys +are working with the hoe, and breaking the clods with mauls. + +April 25. _Voltaggio. Campo-Marone. Genoa_. At Novi, the Apennines begin +to rise. Their growth of timber is oak, tall, small, and knotty, and +chestnut. We soon lose the walnut, ascending, and find it again, about +one fourth of the way down, on the south side. About halfway down, we +find figs and vines, which continue fine and in great abundance. The +Apennines are mostly covered with soil, and are in corn, pasture, +mulberries and figs, in the parts before indicated. About half way from +their foot to Genoa, at Campo-Marone, we find again the olive tree. +Hence the produce becomes mixed, of all the kinds before mentioned. The +method of sowing the Indian corn at Campo-Marone, is as follows. With +a hoe shaped like the blade of a trowel, two feet long, and six inches +broad at its upper end, pointed below, and a little curved, they make +a trench. In that, they drop the grains six inches apart. Then two feet +from that, they make another trench, throwing the earth they take out of +that on the grain of the last one, with a singular slight and quickness; +and so through the whole piece. The last trench is filled with the earth +adjoining. + +April 26. _Genoa_. Strawberries at Genoa. Scaffold poles for the upper +parts of a wall, as for the third story, rest on the window sills of the +story below. Slate is used here for paving, for steps, for stairs (the +rise as well as tread), and for fixed Venetian blinds. At the Palazzo +Marcello Durazzo, benches with straight legs, and bottoms of cane. At +the Palazzo del Prencipe Lomellino, at Sestri, a phaeton with a canopy. +At the former, tables folding into one plane. At Nervi they have pease, +strawberries, &c. all the year round. The gardens of the Count Durazzo +at Nervi, exhibit as rich a mixture of the _utile dulci_, as I ever +saw. All the environs in Genoa are in olives, figs, oranges, mulberries, +corn, and garden-stuff. Aloes in many places, but they never flower. + +April 28. _Noli_. The Apennine and Alps appear to me to be one and the +same continued ridge of mountains, separating every where the waters +of the Adriatic Gulf from those of the Mediterranean. Where it forms an +elbow, touching the Mediterranean, as a smaller circle touches a larger, +within which it is inscribed, in the manner of a tangent, the name +changes from Alps to Apennine. It is the beginning of the Apennine which +constitutes the state of Genoa, the mountains there generally falling +down in barren, naked precipices into the sea. Wherever there is soil +on the lower parts, it is principally in olives and figs, in vines also, +mulberries, and corn. Where there are hollows well protected, there +are oranges. This is the case at Golfo della Spezia, Sestri, Bugiasco, +Nervi, Genoa, Pegli, Savona, Finale, Oneglia (where there are +abundance), St. Rerno, Ventimiglia, Mentone, and Monaco. Noli, into +which I was obliged to put, by a change of wind, is forty miles from +Genoa. There are twelve hundred inhabitants in the village, and many +separate houses round about. One of the precipices hanging over the sea, +is covered with aloes. But neither here, nor any where else I have been, +could I procure satisfactory information that they ever flower. The +current of testimony is to the contrary. Noli furnishes many fishermen. +Paths penetrate up into the mountains in several directions, about three +fourths of a mile; but these are practicable only for asses and mules. I +saw no cattle nor sheep in the settlement. The wine they make, is white +and indifferent. A curious cruet for oil and vinegar in one piece, I saw +here. A bishop resides here, whose revenue is two thousand livres, equal +to sixty-six guineas. I heard a nightingale here. + +April 29. _Albenga_. In walking along the shore from Louano to this +place, I saw no appearance of shells. The tops of the mountains are +covered with snow, while there are olive trees, &c. on the lower parts. +I do not remember to have seen assigned any where, the cause of the +apparent color of the sea. Its water is generally clear and colorless, +if taken up and viewed in a glass. That of the Mediterranean is +remarkably so. Yet in the mass, it assumes, _by reflection_, the color +of the sky or atmosphere, black, green, blue, according to the state of +the weather. If any person wished to retire from his acquaintance, to +live absolutely unknown, and yet in the midst of physical enjoyments, +it should be in some of the little villages of this coast, where air, +water, and earth concur to offer what each has, most precious. Here are +nightingales, beccaficas, ortolans, pheasants, partridges, quails, a +superb climate, and the power of changing it from summer to winter at +any moment, by ascending the mountains. The earth furnishes wine, oil, +figs, oranges, and every production of the garden, in every season. The +sea yields lobsters, crabs, oysters, tunny, sardines, anchovies, &c. +Ortolans sell, at this time, at thirty sous, equal to one shilling +sterling, the dozen. At this season, they must be fattened. Through the +whole of my route from Marseilles, I observe they plant a great deal +of cane or reed, which is convenient while growing, as a cover from +the cold and boisterous winds, and when cut, it serves for espaliers to +vines, pease, &c. Through Piedmont, Lombardy, the Milanese, and Genoese, +the garden bean is a great article of culture; almost as much so as +corn. At Albenga, is a rich plain opening from between two ridges of +mountains, triangularly, to the sea, and of several miles extent. Its +growth is olives, figs, mulberries, vines, corn, and beans. There is +some pasture. A bishop resides here, whose revenue is forty thousand +livres. This place is said to be rendered unhealthy in summer, by the +river which passes through the valley. + +April 30. _Oneglia_. The wind continuing contrary, I took mules at +Albenga for Oneglia. Along this tract are many of the tree called +_caroubier_, being a species of locust. It is the _ceratonia siliqua_ +of Linnaeus. Its pods furnish food for horses, and also for the poor, +in time of scarcity. It abounds in Naples and Spain. Oneglia and Port +Maurice, which are within a mile of each other, are considerable places, +and in a rich country. At St. Remo, are abundance of oranges and lemons, +and some palm trees. + +May 1. _Ventimiglia. Mentone. Monaco. Nice_. At Bordighera, between +Ventimiglia and Mentone, are extensive plantations of palms, on the +hill as well as in the plain. They bring fruit, but it does not ripen. +Something is made of the midrib which is in great demand at Rome, on the +Palm Sunday, and which renders this tree profitable here. From Mentone +to Monaco, there is more good land, and extensive groves of oranges and +lemons. Orange water sells here at forty sous, equal to sixteen pence +sterling, the American quart. The distances on this coast are, from +La Spezia, at the eastern end of the territories of Genoa, to Genoa, +fifty-five miles, geometrical; to Savona, thirty; Albenga, thirty; +Oneglia, twenty; Ventimiglia, twenty-five; Monaco, ten; Nice, ten; in +the whole, one hundred and eighty miles. A superb road might be made +along the margin of the sea from La Spezai, where the champaign country +of Italy opens, to Nice, where the Alps go off northwardly, and the post +roads of France begin; and it might even follow the margin of the sea +quite to Cette. By this road, travellers would enter Italy without +crossing the Alps, and all the little insulated villages of the Genoese +would communicate together, and in time, form one continued village +along that road. + +May 3. _Luc, Brignoles. Tourves. Pourcieux. La Galiniere_. Long, small +mountains, very rocky, the soil reddish, from bad to middling; in +olives, grapes, mulberries, vines, and corn. Brignolles is an extensive +plain, between two ridges of mountains, and along a water-course which +continues to Tourves. Thence to Pourcieux we cross a mountain, low and +easy. The country is rocky and poor. To La Galiniere are waving grounds, +bounded by mountains of rock at a little distance. There are some +enclosures of dry wall from Luc to La Galiniere; also, sheep and hogs. +There is snow on the high mountains. I see no plums in the vicinities +of Brignoles; which makes me conjecture that the celebrated plum of that +name is not derived from this place. + +May 8. _Orgon. Avignon. Vaucluse_. Orgon is on the Durance. From thence, +its plain opens till it becomes common with that of the Rhone; so that +from Orgon to Avignon is entirely a plain of rich dark loam, which is in +willows, mulberries, vines, corn, and pasture. A very few figs. I see no +olives in this plain. Probably the cold winds have too much power here. +From the Bac de Nova (where we cross the Durance) to Avignon, is about +nine American miles; and from the same Bac to Vaucluse, eleven miles. +In the valley of Vaucluse, and on the hills impending over it, are olive +trees. The stream issuing from the fountain of Vaucluse is about twenty +yards wide, four or five feet deep, and of such rapidity that it could +not be stemmed by a canoe. They are now mowing hay, and gathering +mulberry leaves. The high mountains just back of Vaucluse, are covered +with snow. Fine trout in the stream of Vaucluse, and the valley abounds +peculiarly with nightingales. The _vin blanc_ de M. de Rochequde of +Avignon, resembles dry Lisbon. He sells it, at six years old, for +twenty-two sous the bottle, the price of the bottle, &c. included. + +_Avignon. Remoulins_. Some good plains, but generally hills, stony and +poor. In olives, mulberries, vines, and corn. Where it is waste the +growth is _chene-vert_, box, furze, thyme, and rosemary. + +May 10. _Lismes. Lunel_. Hills on the right, plains on the left. The +soil reddish, a little stony, and of middling quality. The produce, +olives, mulberries, vines, corn, saintfoin. No wood and few enclosures. +Lunel is famous for its _vin de muscat blanc_, thence called Lunel, +or _vin muscat de Lunel_. It is made from the raisin muscat, without +fermenting the grain in the hopper. When fermented, it makes a red +muscat, taking the tinge from the dissolution of the skin of the grape, +which injures the quality. When a red muscat is required, they prefer +coloring it with a little Alicant wine. But the white is best. The +_piece_ of two hundred and forty bottles, after being properly drawn off +from its lees, and ready for bottling, costs from one hundred and twenty +to two hundred livres, the first, quality and last vintage. It cannot be +bought old, the demand being sufficient to take it all the first year. +There are not more than from fifty to one hundred _pieces_ a year, made +of this first quality. A _setterie_ yields about one _piece_, and my +informer supposes there are about two _setteries_ in an arpent. Portage +to Paris, by land, is fifteen livres the quintal. The best _recoltes_ +are those of M. Bouquet and M. Tremoulet. The vines are in rows four +feet apart, every way. + +May 11. _Montpelier_. Snow on the Cevennes, still visible from here. +With respect to the muscat grape, of which the wine is made, there are +two kinds, the red and the white. The first has a red skin, but a white +juice. If it be fermented in the _cuve_, the coloring matter which +resides in the skin, is imparted to the wine. If not fermented in the +_cuve_, the wine is white. Of the white grape, only a white wine can +be made. The species of saintfoin cultivated here by the name of +_sparsette_, is the _hedysarum onobrychis_. They cultivate a great +deal of madder (_garance_) _rubia tinctorum_ here, which is said to +be immensely profitable. Monsieur de Gouan tells me, that the pine, +of which they use the burs for fuel, is the _pinus sativus_, being +two-leaved. They use-for an edging to the borders of their gardens, the +santolina, which they call _garderobe_. I find the yellow clover here, +in a garden, and the large pigeon succeeding well, confined in a house. + +May 12. _Frontignan_. Some tolerably good plains in olives, vines, corn, +saintfoin, and lucerne. A great proportion of the hills are waste. There +are some enclosures of stone, and some sheep. The first four years of +madder are unproductive; the fifth and sixth yield the whole value of +the land. Then it must be renewed. The _sparsette_ is the common or true +saintfoin. It lasts about five years: in the best land it is cut twice, +in May and September, and yields three thousand pounds of dry hay to the +setterie, the first cutting, and five hundred pounds, the second. The +_setterie_ is of seventy-five _dextres en tout sens_, supposed about +two arpents. Lucerne is the best of all forage; it is sowed herein the +broad-cast, and lasts about twelve or fourteen years. It is cut four +times a year, and yields six thousand pounds of dry hay, at the four +cuttings, to the setterie. The territory in which the _vin muscat de +Frontignan_ is made, is about a league of three thousand _toises_ long, +and one fourth of a league broad. The soil is reddish and stony, often +as much stone as soil. On the left, it is a plain, on the right hills. +There are made about one thousand _pieces_ (of two hundred and fifty +bottles each) annually, of which six hundred are of the first quality, +made on the _coteaux_. Of these, Madame Soubeinan makes two hundred, +Monsieur Reboulle ninety, Monsieur Lambert, _medecin de la faculte +de Montpelier_, sixty, Monsieur Thomas, _notaire_, fifty, Monsieur +Argilliers fifty, Monsieur Audibert forty; equal to four hundred and +ninety; and there are some small proprietors who make small quantities. +The first quality is sold, _brut_, for one hundred and twenty livres the +_piece_; but it is then thick, and must have a winter and the +_fouet_, to render it potable and brilliant. The _fouet_ is like a +chocolate-mill, the handle of iron, the brush of stiff hair. In bottles, +this wine costs twenty-four sous, the bottle, &c. included. It is +potable the April after it is made, is best that year, and after ten +years begins to have a pitchy taste, resembling it to Malaga. It is not +permitted to ferment more than half a day, because it would not be so +liquorish. The best color, and its natural one, is the amber. By force +of whipping, it is made white, but loses flavor. There are but two or +three _pieces_ a year of red Muscat made; there being but one vineyard +of the red grape, which belongs to a baker called Pascal. This sells +in bottles at thirty sous, the bottle included. Rondelle, _negociant +en vin, Porte St. Bernard, fauxbourg St. Germain, Paris_, buys three +hundred pieces of the first quality every year. The _coteaux_ yield +about half a piece to the _setterie_, the plains a whole piece. The +inferior quality is not at all esteemed. It is bought by the merchants +of Cette, as is also the wine of Beziers, and sold by them for +Frontignan of the first quality. They sell thirty thousand _pieces_ a +year under that name. The town of Frontignan marks its casks with a hot +iron: an individual of that place, having two casks emptied, was offered +forty livres for the empty cask by a merchant of Cette. The town of +Frontignan contains about two thousand inhabitants; it is almost on +the level of the ocean. Transportation to Paris is fifteen livres the +quintal, and takes fifteen days. The price of packages is about eight +livres eight sous the one hundred bottles. A _setterie_ of good vineyard +sells for from three hundred and fifty to five hundred livres, and rents +for fifty livres. A laboring man hires at one hundred and fifty livres +the year, and is fed and lodged; a woman at half as much. Wheat sells +at ten livres the _settier_, which weighs one hundred pounds, _poids de +table_. They make some Indian corn here, which is eaten by the poor. The +olives do not extend northward of this into the country above twelve +or fifteen leagues. In general, the olive country in Languedoc is about +fifteen leagues broad. More of the waste lands between Frontignan and +Mirval are capable of culture; but it is a marshy country, very subject +to fever and ague, and generally unhealthy. Thence arises, as is said, a +want of hands. + +_Cette_. There are in this town about ten thousand inhabitants. +Its principal commerce is wine; it furnishes great quantities of +grape-pumice for making _verdigrise_. They have a very growing commerce; +but it is kept under by the privileges of Marseilles. + +May 13. _Agde_. On the right of the Etang de Thau are plains of some +width, then hills, in olives, vines, mulberry, corn, and pasture. On the +left a narrow sand-bar, separating the Etang from the sea, along which +it is proposed to make a road from Cette to Agde. In this case, the post +would lead from Montpelier by Cette and Agde to Beziers, being leveller, +and an hour or an hour and a half nearer. Agde contains six or eight +thousand inhabitants. + +May 14. _Beziers_. Rich plains in corn, saintfoin, and pasture; hills +at a little distance to the right in olives; the soil both of hill and +plain is red going from Agde to Beziers. But at Beziers the country +becomes hilly, and is in olives, corn, saintfoin, pasture, some vines, +and mulberries. + +May 15. _Beziers. Argilies. Le Saumal_. From Argilies to Saumal are +considerable plantations of vines. Those on the red hills, to the right, +are said to produce good wine. No wood, no enclosures. There are sheep +and good cattle. The Pyrenees are covered with snow. I am told they are +so in certain parts all the year. The canal of Languedoc, along which +I now travel, is six _toises_ wide at bottom, and ten _toises_ at +the surface of the water, which is one _toise_ deep. The barks which +navigate it are seventy and eighty feet long, and seventeen or eighteen +feet wide. They are drawn by one horse, and worked by two hands, one of +which is generally a woman. The locks are mostly kept by women, but the +necessary operations are much too laborious for them. The encroachments +by the men, on the offices proper for the women, is a great derangement +in the order of things. Men are shoemakers, tailors, upholsterers, +staymakers, mantua-makers, cooks, housekeepers, house-cleaners, +bed-makers, they _coiffe_ the ladies, and bring them to bed: the women, +therefore, to live, are obliged to undertake the offices which they +abandon. They become porters, carters, reapers, sailors, lock-keepers, +smiters on the anvil, cultivators of the earth, &c. Can we wonder, if +such of them as have a little beauty, prefer easier courses to get their +livelihood, as long as that beauty lasts? Ladies who employ men in the +offices which should be reserved for their sex, are they not bawds in +effect? For every man whom they thus emply, some girl, whose place he +has thus taken, is driven to whoredom. The passage of the eight locks +at Beziers, that is, from the opening of the first to the last gate +took one hour and thirty-three minutes. The bark in which I go is about +thirty-five feet long, drawn by one horse, and goes from two to three +geographical miles an hour. The canal yields abundance of carp and eel. +I see also small fish, resembling our perch and chub. Some plants +of white clover, and some of yellow, on the banks of the canal near +Capestan; santolina also, and a great deal of yellow iris. Met a raft +of about three hundred and fifty beams, forty feet long, and twelve +or thirteen inches in diameter, formed into fourteen rafts, tacked +together. The extensive and numerous fields of saintfoin, in general +bloom, are beautiful. + +May 16. _Le Saumal. Marseillette_. May 17. _Marseilleite. Carcassonne_. +From Saumal to Carcassonne we have always the river Aube close on our +left. This river runs in the valley between the Cevennes and Pyrenees, +serving as the common receptacle for both their waters. It is from +fifty to one hundred and fifty yards wide, always rapid, rocky, and +insusceptible of navigation. The canal passes in the side of hills made +by that river, overlooks the river itself, and its plains, and has +its prospect ultimately terminated on one side by mountains of rock, +overtopped by the Pyrenees, on the other by small mountains, sometimes +of rock, sometimes of soil, overtopped by the Cevennes. Marseillette +is on a ridge, which separates the river Aube from the Etang de +Marseillette. The canal, in its approach to this village, passes the +ridge, and rides along the front, overlooking the Etang, and the plains +on its border; and having passed the village, re-crosses the ridge, and +resumes its general ground in front of the Aube. The land is in corn, +saintfoin, pasture, vines, mulberries, willows, and olives. + +May 18. _Carcassonne. Castelnaudari_. Opposite to Carcassonne the canal +receives the river Fresquel, about thirty yards wide, which is its +substantial supply of water from hence to Beziers. From Beziers to Agde +the river Orb furnishes it, and the Eraut, from Agde to the Etang de +Thau. By means of the _ecluse ronde_ at Agde, the waters of the Eraut +can be thrown towards Beziers, to aid those of the Orb, as far as the +_ecluse de Porcaraigne_, nine geometrical miles. Where the Fresquel +enters the canal, there is, on the opposite side, a waste, to let off +the superfluous waters. The horse-way is continued over this waste, by a +bridge of stone of eighteen arches. I observe them fishing in the canal, +with a skimming net of about fifteen feet diameter, with which they tell +me they catch carp. Flax in blossom. Neither strawberries nor peas yet +at Carcassonne. The Windsor-bean just come to table. From the _ecluse de +la Lande_ we see the last olive trees near a _metairee_, or farm-house-, +called _La Lande_. On a review of what I have seen and heard of this +tree, the following seem to be its northern limits. Beginning on the +Atlantic, at the Pyrenees, and along them to the meridian of La Lande, +or of Carcassonne; up that meridian to the Cevennes, as they begin just +there to raise themselves high enough to afford it shelter. Along the +Cevennes, to the parallel of forty-five degrees of latitude, and along +that parallel (crossing the Rhone near the mouth of the Isere) to the +Alps; thence along the Alps and Apennines, to what parallel of +latitude I know not. Yet here the tracing of the line becomes the most +interesting. For from the Atlantic, so far we see this production the +effect of shelter and latitude combined. But where does it venture to +launch forth unprotected by shelter, and by the mere force of latitude +alone? Where, for instance, does its northern limit cross the Adriatic? +I learn, that the olive tree resists cold to eight degrees of Reaumur +below the freezing-point, which corresponds to fourteen above zero of +Fahrenheit: and that the orange resists to four degrees below freezing +of Reaumur, which is twenty-three degrees above zero of Fahrenheit. + +May 19. _Castelnaudari. St. Feriol. Escamaze. Lampy_. Some sheep and +cattle; no enclosures. St. Feriol, Escamaze, and Lampy are in the +montagnes noires. The country almost entirely waste. Some of it in +shrubbery. The _voute d'Escamaze_ is of one hundred and thirty-five +yards. Round about Castelnaudari the country is hilly, as it has been +constantly from Beziers; it is very rich. Where it is plain, or nearly +plain, the soil is black: in general, however, it is hilly and reddish, +and in corn. They cultivate a great deal of Indian corn here, which they +call millet; it is planted, but not yet up. + +May 20. _Castelnaudari. Naurouze. Villefranche. Baziege_. At Naurouze is +the highest ground which the canal had to pass between the two seas. It +became necessary, then, to find water still higher to bring it here. The +river Fresquel heading by its two principal branches in the _montagnes +noires_, a considerable distance off to the eastward, the springs of the +most western one were brought together, and conducted to Naurouze, where +its waters are divided, part furnishing the canal towards the ocean, +the rest towards the Mediterranean, as far as the _ecluse de Fresquel_, +where, as has been before noted, the Lampy branch and the Alzau, under +the name of the Fresquel, enter. + +May 20. They have found that a lock of six _pieds_ is best; however, +eight _pieds_ is well enough. Beyond this, it is bad. Monsieur Pin tells +me of a lock of thirty _pieds_ made in Sweden, of which it is impossible +to open the gates. They therefore divided it into four locks. The small +gates of the locks of this canal have six square _pieds_ of surface. +They tried the machinery of the jack for opening them. They were more +easily opened, but very subject to be deranged, however strongly +made. They returned, therefore, to the original wooden screw, which is +excessively slow and laborious. I calculate that five minutes are lost +at every basin by this screw, which, on the whole number of basins, is +one eighth of the time necessary to navigate the canal: and of course, +if a method of lifting the gate at one stroke could be found, it would +reduce the passage from eight to seven days, and the freight equally. +I suggested to Monsieur Pin and others a quadrantal gate, turning on a +pivot, and lifted by a lever like a pump-handle, aided by a windlass and +cord, if necessary. He will try it, and inform me of the success. The +price of transportation from Cette to Bordeaux, through the canal and +Garonne is ------ the quintal: round by the straits of Gibraltar is +------. Two hundred and forty barks, the largest of twenty-two hundred +quintals (or say, in general, of one hundred tons), suffice to perform +the business of this canal, which is stationary, having neither +increased nor diminished for many years. When pressed, they can pass and +repass between Toulouse and Beziers in fourteen days; but sixteen is the +common period. The canal is navigated ten and a half months of the year: +the other month and a half being necessary to lay it dry, cleanse it, +and repair the works. This is done in July and August, when there would +perhaps be a want of water. + +May 21. _Baziege. Toulouse_. The country continues hilly, but very rich. +It is in mulberries, willows, some vines, corn, maize, pasture, beans, +flax. A great number of chateaux and good houses in the neighborhood +of the canal. The people partly in farm-houses, partly in villages. +I suspect that the farm-houses are occupied by the farmers, while the +laborers (who are mostly by the day) reside in the villages. Neither +strawberries nor pease yet at Baziege or Toulouse. Near the latter are +some fields of yellow clover. + +At Toulouse the canal ends. It has four communications with the +Mediterranean. 1. Through the ponds of Thau, Frontignan, Palavas, +Maguelone, and Manjo, the _canal de la Radela Aigues-mortes, le canal +des Salines de Pecair,_ and the arm of the Rhone called _Bras de Fer_, +which ends at Fourgues, opposite to Arles, and thence down the Rhone. 2. +At Cette, by a canal of a few hundred _toises_, leading out of the Etang +de Thau into the sea. The vessels pass the Etang, though a length of +nine thousand _toises_, with sails. 3. At Agde, by the river Eraut, +twenty-five hundred _toises_. It has but five or six _pieds_ of water +at its mouth. It is joined to the canal at the upper part of this +communication, by a branch of a canal two hundred and seventy _toises_ +long. 4. At Narbonne, by a canal they are now opening, which leads from +the great canal near the aqueduct of the river Cesse, twenty-six hundred +_toises_, into the Aude. This new canal will have five lock-basins, +of about twelve _pieds_ fall each. Then you are to cross the Aude very +obliquely, and descend a branch of it six thousand _toises_, through +four lock-basins to Narbonne, and from Narbonne down the same branch, +twelve hundred _toises_ into the _Etang de Sigen_, across that Etang +four thousand _toises_, issuing at an inlet, called _Grau de la +Nouvelle_, into the Gulf of Lyons. But only vessels of thirty or forty +tons can enter this inlet. Of these four communications, that of Cette +only leads to a deep sea-port, because the exit is there by a canal, and +not a river. Those by the Rhone, Eraut, and Aude, are blocked up by bars +at the mouths of those rivers. It is remarkable, that all the rivers +running into the Mediterranean are obstructed at their entrance by bars +and shallows, which often change their position. This is the case with +the Nile, Tiber, the Po, the Lez, le Lyoron, the Orbe, the Gly, the +Tech, the Tet, he. Indeed, the formation of these bars seems not +confined to the mouths of the rivers, though it takes place at them more +certainly. Along almost the whole of the coast, from Marseilles towards +the Pyrenees, banks of sand are thrown up parallel with the coast, which +have insulated portions of the sea, that is, formed them into etangs, +ponds, or sounds, through which here and there narrow and shallow inlets +only are preserved by the currents of the rivers. These sounds fill up +in time, with the mud and sand deposited in them by the rivers. Thus the +Etang de Vendres, navigated formerly by vessels of sixty tons, is +now nearly filled up by the mud and sand of the Aude. The Vistre and +Vidourle, which formerly emptied themselves into the Gulf of Lyons, are +now received by the _Etangs de Manjo_ and Aiguesmortes, that is to +say, the part of the Gulf of Lyons, which formerly received, and still +receives those rivers, is now cut off from the sea by a bar of sand, +which has been thrown up in it, and has formed it into sounds. Other +proofs that the land gains there on the sea, are, that the towns of +St. Giles and Notre Dame d'Asposts, formerly seaports, are no far from +the sea, and that Aiguesmortes, where are still to be seen the iron +rings to which vessels were formerly moored, and where St. Louis +embarked for Palestine, has now in its vicinities only ponds, which +cannot be navigated, and communicates with the sea by an inlet, called +_Grau du Roy_, through which only fishing-barks can pass. It is pretty +well established, that all the Delta of Egypt has been formed by +the depositions of the Nile, and the alluvions of the sea, and it is +probable that that operation is still going on. Has this peculiarity +of the Mediterranean any connection with the scantiness of its tides, +which, even at the equinoxes, are of two or three feet only? The +communication from the western end of the canal to the ocean, is by +the river Garonne. This is navigated by flat boats of eight hundred +quintals, when the water is well; but when it is scanty, these boats +carry only two hundred quintals, till they get to the mouth of the Tarn. +It has been proposed to open a canal that far from Toulouse, along the +right side of the river. + +May 22. _Toulouse_. 23. _Agen_. 24. _Castres. Bordeaux_. The Garonne, +and rivers emptying into it, make extensive and rich plains, which are +in mulberries, willows, corn, maize, pasture, beans, and flax. The hills +are in corn, maize, beans, and a considerable proportion of vines. There +seems to be as much maize as corn in this country. Of the latter, there +is more rye than wheat. The maize is now up, and about three inches +high. It is sowed in rows two feet or two and a half feet apart, and +is pretty thick in the row. Doubtless they mean to thin it. There is +a great deal of a forage they call _farouche_. It is a species of red +trefoil, with few leaves, a very coarse stalk, and a cylindrical blossom +of two inches in length, and three quarters of an inch in diameter, +consisting of floscules, exactly as does that of the red clover. It +seems to be a coarse food, but very plentiful. They say it is for their +oxen. These are very fine, large, and cream-colored. The services of the +farm and of transportation are performed chiefly by them. There are a +few horses and asses, but no mules. Even in the city of Bordeaux we see +scarcely any beasts of draught but oxen. When we cross the Garonne +at Langon, we find the plains entirely of sand and gravel, and they +continue so to Bordeaux. Where they are capable of any thing, they +are in vines, which are in rows, four, five, or six feet apart, and +sometimes more. Near Langon is Sauterne, where the best white wines of +Bordeaux are made. The waste lands are in fern, furze, shrubbery, +and dwarf trees. The farmers live on their farms. At Agen, Castres, +Bordeaux, strawberries and pease are now brought to table; so that the +country on the canal of Languedoc seems to have later seasons than +that east and west of it. What can be the cause? To the eastward, the +protection of the Cevennes makes the warm season advance sooner. Does +the neighborhood of the Mediterranean co-operate? And does that of the +ocean mollify and advance the season to the westward? There are ortolans +at Agen, but none at Bordeaux. The buildings on the canal and the +Garonne are mostly of brick, the size of the bricks the same with that +of the ancient Roman brick, as seen in the remains of their buildings in +this country. In those of a circus at Bordeaux, considerable portions +of which are standing, I measured the bricks, and found them nineteen +or twenty inches long, eleven or twelve inches wide, and from one and a +half to two inches thick; their texture as fine, compact, and solid as +that of porcelain. The bricks now made, though of the same dimensions, +are not so fine. They are burnt in a kind of furnace, and make excellent +work. The elm tree shows itself at Bordeaux peculiarly proper for +being spread flat for arbors. Many are done in this way on the Quay des +Charterons. Strawberries, pease, and cherries at Bordeaux. + +May 24, 25, 26, 27, 28. Bordeaux. The cantons in which the most +celebrated wines of Bordeaux are made, are Medoc down the river, Grave +adjoining the city, and the parishes next above; all on the same side of +the river. In the first, is made red wine principally, in the two last, +white. In Medoc they plant the vines in cross-rows of three and a half +_pieds_. They keep them so low, that poles extended along the rows one +way, horizontally, about fifteen or eighteen inches above the ground, +serve to tie the vines to, and leave the cross row open to the plough. +In Grave they set the plants in quincunx, i.e. in equilateral triangles +of three and a half pieds every side; and they stick a pole of six or +eight feet high to every vine, separately. The vine-stock is sometimes +three or four feet high. They find these two methods equal in culture, +duration, quantity, and quality. The former, however, admits the +alternative of tending by hand or with the plough. The grafting of the +vine, though a critical operation, is practised with success. When the +graft has taken, they bend it into the earth, and let it take root above +the scar. They begin to yield an indifferent wine at three years old, +but not a good one till twenty-five years, nor after eighty, when they +begin to yield less, and worse, and must be renewed. They give three or +four workings in the year, each worth seventy or seventy-five livres the +journal, which is of eight hundred and forty square ioises, and contains +about three thousand plants. They dung a little in Medoc and Grave, +because of the poverty of the soil; but very little; as more would +affect the wine. The _journal_ yields, _communions annis_, about three +_pieces_ (of two hundred and forty, or two hundred and fifty bottles +each). The vineyards of first quality are all worked by their +proprietors. Those of the second, rent for three hundred livres the +journal: those of third, at two hundred livres. They employ a kind of +overseer at four or five hundred livres the year, finding him lodging +and drink: but he feeds himself. He superintends and directs, though +he is expected to work but little. If the proprietor has a garden, the +overseer tends that. They never hire laborers by the year. The day wages +for a man are thirty sous, a woman's fifteen sous, feeding themselves. +The women make the bundles of sarment, weed, pull off the snails, tie +the vines, and gather the grapes. During the vintage they are paid high, +and fed well. + +Of Red wines, there are four vineyards of the first quality; viz. 1. +_Chateau Margau_, belonging to the Marquis d'Agincourt, who makes about +one hundred and fifty tons, of one thousand bottles each. He has +engaged to Jernon, a merchant. 2. _La Tour de Segur, en Saint Lambert_, +belonging to Monsieur Miresmenil, who makes one hundred and twenty-five +tons. 3. _Hautbrion_, belonging two-thirds to M. le Comte de Femelle, +who has engaged to Barton, a merchant: the other third to the Comte de +Toulouse, at Toulouse. The whole is seventy-five tons. 4. _Chateau de +la Fite_, belonging to the President Pichard, at Bordeaux, who makes one +hundred and seventy-five tons. The wines of the three first, are not in +perfection till four years old: those of _de la Fite_, being somewhat +lighter, are good at three years; that is, the crop of 1786 is good in +the spring of 1789. These growths, of the year 1783, sell now at two +thousand livres the ton; those of 1784, on account of the superior +quality of that vintage, sell at twenty-four hundred livres; those of +1785, at eighteen hundred livres; those of 1786, at eighteen hundred +livres, though they had sold at first for only fifteen hundred livres. +Red wines of the second quality, are Rozan, Dabbadie or Lionville, la +Rose, Qui-rouen, Durfort; in all eight hundred tons, which sell at +one thousand livres, new. The third class, are Galons, Mouton, Gassie, +Arboete, Pontette, de Ferme, Candale; in all two thousand tons, at eight +or nine hundred livres. After these, they are reckoned common wines, and +sell from five hundred livres, down to one hundred and twenty livres, +the ton. All red wines decline after a certain age, losing color, +flavor, and body. Those of Bordeaux begin to decline at about seven +years old. + +Of White wines, those made in the canton of Grave, are most esteemed at +Bordeaux. The best crops are, 1. _Pontac_, which formerly belonged to M. +de Pontac, but now to M. de Lamont. He makes forty tons, which sell at +four hundred livres, new. 2. _St. Brise_, belonging to M. de Pontac; +thirty tons, at three hundred and fifty livres. 3. _De Carbonius_, +belonging to the Benedictine monks, who make fifty tons, and never +selling till three or four years old, get eight hundred livres the ton. +Those made in the three parishes next above Grave, and more esteemed +at Paris, are, 1. _Sauterne_. The best crop belongs to M. Diquem at +Bordeaux, or to M. de Salus, his son-in-law; one hundred and fifty tons, +at three hundred livres, new, and six hundred livres, old. The next best +crop is M. de Fillotte's, one hundred tons, sold at the same price. 2. +_Prignac_. The best is the President du Roy's, at Bordeaux. He makes one +hundred and seventy-five tons, which sell at three hundred livres, new, +and six hundred livres, old. Those of 1784, for their extraordinary +quality, sell at eight hundred livres. 3. _Barsac_. The best belongs +to the President Pichard, who makes one hundred and fifty tons, at two +hundred and eighteen livres, new, and six hundred livres, old. Sauterne +is the pleasantest; next Prignac, and lastly Barsac: but Barsac is the +strongest; next Prignac, and lastly Sauterne; and all stronger than +Grave. There are other good crops made in the same parishes of Sauterne, +Prignac, and Barsac; but none as good as these. There is a virgin wine, +which, though made of a red grape, is of a light rose color, because, +being made without pressure, the coloring matter of the skin does not +mix with the juice. There are other white wines, from the preceding +prices down to seventy-five livres. In general, the white wines keep +longest. They will be in perfection till fifteen or twenty years of age. +The best vintage now to be bought, is of 1784; both of red and white. +There has been no other good year since 1779. The celebrated vineyards +before mentioned, are plains, as is generally the canton of Medoc, +and that of the Grave. The soil of Hautbrion, particularly, which I +examined, is a sand, in which is near as much round gravel or small +stone, and very little loam: and this is the general soil of Medoc. That +of Pontac, which I examined also, is a little different. It is clayey, +with a fourth or fifth of fine rotten stone; and at two feet depth, +it becomes all a rotten stone. M. de Lamont tells me, he has a kind of +grape without seeds, which I did not formerly suppose to exist; but I +saw at Marseilles dried raisins from Smyrna without seeds. I see in his +farm at Pontac, some plants of white clover, and a good deal of yellow: +also some small peach trees in the open ground. The principal English +wine merchants at Bordeaux, are Jernon, Barton, Johnston, Foster, +Skinner, Copinger, and M'Cartey: the chief French wine merchants, are +Feger, Nerac, Bruneaux Jauge, and Du Verget. Desgrands, a wine-broker, +tells me they never mix the wines of first quality: but that they mix +the inferior ones to improve them. The smallest wines make the best +brandy. They yield about a fifth or sixth. + +May 28, 29. From Bordeaux to Blaye, the country near the river is hilly, +chiefly in vines, some corn, some pasture: further out, are plains, +boggy and waste. The soil, in both cases, clay and grit. Some sheep +on the waste. To Etauliers, we have sometimes boggy plains, sometimes +waving grounds and sandy, always poor, generally waste, in fern and +furze, with some corn however, interspersed. To Mirambeau and St. Genis, +it is hilly, poor, and mostly waste. There are some corn and maize +however, and better trees than usual. Towards Pons, it becomes a little +red, mostly rotten stone. There are vines, corn, and maize, which is up. +At Pons we approach the Charente; the country becomes better, a blackish +mould mixed with a rotten chalky stone: a great many vines, corn, maize, +and farouche. From Lajart to Saintes and Rochefort, the soil is reddish, +its foundation a chalky rock, at about a foot depth; in vines, corn, +maize, clover, lucerne, and pasture. There are more and better trees +than I have seen in all my journey; a great many apple and cherry trees: +fine cattle and many sheep. + +May 30. From Rochefort to La Rochelle, it is sometimes hilly and red, +with a chalky foundation, middling good; in corn, pasture, and some +waste: sometimes it is reclaimed marsh, in clover and corn, except the +parts accessible to the tide, which are in wild grass. About Rochelle, +it is a low plain. Towards Usseau, and halfway to Marans, level +highlands, red, mixed with an equal quantity of broken chalk; mostly +in vines, some corn, and pasture: then to Marans and halfway to St. +Hermine, it is reclaimed marsh, dark, tolerably good, and all in +pasture: there we rise to plains a little higher, red, with a chalky +foundation, boundless to the eye, and altogether in corn and maize. + +May 31. At St. Hermine, the country becomes very hilly, a red clay +mixed with chalky stone, generally waste, in furze and broom, with some +patches of corn and maize; and so it continues to Chantonay, and St. +Fulgent. Through the whole of this road from Bordeaux, are frequent +hedge rows, and small patches of forest wood, not good, yet better than +I had seen in the preceding part of my journey. Towards Montaigu, the +soil mends a little; the cultivated parts in corn and pasture, the +uncultivated in broom. It is in very small enclosures of ditch and +quickset. On approaching the Loire to Nantes, the country is leveller: +the soil from Rochelle to this place may be said to have been sometimes +red, but oftener gray, and always on a chalky foundation. The last +census, of about 1770, made one hundred and twenty thousand inhabitants +at Nantes. They conjecture there are now one hundred and fifty thousand, +which equals it to Bordeaux. + +June 1,2. The country from Nantes to L'Orient is very hilly and poor, +the soil gray; nearly half is waste, in furze and broom, among which is +some poor grass. The cultivated parts are in corn, some maize, a good +many apple trees; no vines. All is in small enclosures of quick hedge +and ditch. There are patches and hedge-rows of forest-wood, not quite +deserving the name of timber. The people are mostly in villages; they +eat rye-bread, and are ragged. The villages announce a general poverty, +as does every other appearance. Women smite on the anvil, and work with +the hoe, and cows are yoked to labor. There are great numbers of cattle, +insomuch that butter is their staple. Neither asses nor mules: yet it +is said that the fine mules I have met with on my journey, are raised +in Poictou. There are but few _chateaux_ here. I observe mill-ponds, and +hoes with long handles. Have they not, in common with us, derived +these from England, of which Bretagne is probably a colony? L'Orient is +supposed to contain twenty-five thousand inhabitants. They tell me here, +that to make a reasonable profit on potash and pearlash, as bought in +America, the former should sell at thirty livres, the latter thirty-six +livres, the quintal. Of turpentine they make no use in their vessels. +Bayonne furnishes pitch enough; but tar is in demand, and ours sells +well. The tower of L'Orient is sixty-five _pieds_ above the level of +the sea, one hundred and twenty _pieds_ high, twenty-five _pieds_ in +diameter; the stairs four feet radius, and cost thirty thousand livres, +besides the materials of the old tower. + +June 3, 4, 5. The country and productions from L'Orient to Rennes, and +from Rennes to Nantes, are precisely similar to those from Nantes to +L'Orient. About Rennes, it is somewhat leveller, perhaps less poor, and +almost entirely in pasture. The soil always gray. Some small, separate +houses, which seem to be the residence of laborers, or very small +farmers; the walls frequently of mud, and the roofs generally covered +with slate. Great plantations of walnut, and frequently of pine. Some +apple trees and sweet-briar still in bloom, and broom generally so. I +have heard no nightingale since the last day of May. There are gates +in this country made in such a manner, that the top rail of the gate +overshoots backwards the hind post, so as to counterpoise the gate, and +prevent its swagging. + +_Nantes_. Vessels of eight feet draught only can come to Nantes. Those +which are larger, lie at Painboeuf, ten leagues below Nantes, and five +leagues above the mouth of the river. There is a continued navigation +from Nantes to Paris, through the Loire, the canal de Briare and the +Seine. Carolina rice is preferred to that of Lombardy for the Guinea +trade, because it requires less water to boil it. + +June 6, 7, 8. _Nantes. Ancenis. Angers. Tours_. Ascending the Loire +from Nantes, the road, as far as Angers, leads over the hills, which are +gray, oftener below than above mediocrity, and in corn, pasture, vines, +some maize, flax, and hemp. There are no waste lands. About the limits +of Bretagne and Anjou, which are between Loriottiere and St. George, the +lands change for the better. Here and there, we get views of the plains +on the Loire, of some extent, and good appearance, in corn and +pasture. After passing Angers, the road is raised out of the reach of +inundations, so as at the same time to ward them off from the interior +plains. It passes generally along the river side; but sometimes leads +through the plains, which, after we pass Angers, become extensive and +good, in corn, pasture, some maize, hemp, flax, pease, and beans; many +willows, also poplars and walnuts. The flax is near ripe. Sweet-briar +in general bloom. Some broom here still, on which the cattle and sheep +browse in winter and spring, when they have no other green food; and +the hogs eat the blossoms and pods, in spring and summer. This blossom, +though disagreeable when smelt in a small quantity, is of delicious +fragrance when there is a whole field of it. There are some considerable +vineyards in the river plains, just before we reach Les Trois Volets +(which is at the one hundred and thirty-sixth milestone), and after +that, where the hills on the left come into view, they are mostly in +vines. Their soil is clayey and stony, a little reddish, and of southern +aspect. The hills on the other side of the river, looking to the north, +are not in vines. There is very good wine made on these hills; not equal +indeed to the Bordeaux of best quality, but to that of good quality, and +like it. It is a great article of exportation from Anjou and Touraine, +and probably is sold abroad, under the name of Bordeaux. They are now +mowing the first crop of hay. All along both hills of the Loire, is a +mass of white stone, not durable, growing black with time, and so +soft, that the people cut their houses out of the solid, with all the +partitions, chimnies, doors, &c. The hill sides resemble cony burrows, +full of inhabitants. The borders of the Loire are almost a continued +village. There are many chateaux: many cattle, sheep, and horses; some +asses. + +Tours is at the one hundred and nineteenth mile-stone. Being desirous +of inquiring here into a fact stated by Voltaire, in his _Questions +Encylopediques_, article _Coquilles_, relative to the growth of shells +unconnected with animal bodies at the _Chateau_ of Monsieur de la +Sauvagiere, near Tours, I called on Monsieur Gentil, _premier secretaire +de l'ntendance_, to whom the Intendant had written on my behalf, at the +request of the Marquis de Chastellux. + +I stated to him the fact as advanced by Voltaire, and found he was, of +all men, the best to whom I could have addressed myself. He told me he +had been in correspondence with Voltaire on that very subject, and was +perfectly acquainted with Monsieur de la Sauvagiere, and the Faluniere +where the fact is said to have taken place. It is at the Chateau de +Grillemont, six leagues from Tours, on the road to Bordeaux, belonging +now to Monsieur d'Orcai. He says, that De la Sauvagiere was a man of +truth, and might be relied on for whatever facts he stated as of his +own observation; but that he was overcharged with imagination, which, in +matters of opinion and theory, often led him beyond his facts; that this +feature in his character had appeared principally in what he wrote on +the antiquities of Touraine; but that as to the fact in question, +he believed him. That he himself, indeed, had not watched the same +identical shells, as Sauvagiere had done, growing from small to great; +but that he had often seen such masses of those shells of all sizes, +from a point to a full size, as to carry conviction to his mind that +they were in the act of growing; that he had once made a collection +of shells for the Emperor's cabinet, reserving duplicates of them +for himself; and that these afforded proofs of the same fact; that he +afterwards gave those duplicates to a Monsieur du Verget, a physician +of Tours, of great science and candor, who was collecting on a +larger scale, and who was perfectly in sentiment with Monsieur de la +Sauvagiere, and not only the Faluniere, but many other places about +Tours, would convince any unbiassed observer, that shells are a fruit +of the earth, spontaneously produced; and he gave me a copy of De la +Sauvagiere's _Recueil de Dissertations_, presented him by the author, +wherein is one _Sur la vegetation spontanee des coquilles du Chateau +des Places_. So far, I repeat from him. What are we to conclude? That we +have not materials enough yet, to form any conclusion. The fact stated +by Sauvagiere is not against any law of nature, and is therefore +possible; but it is so little analogous to her habitual processes, +that, if true, it would be extraordinary: that to command our belief, +therefore, there should be such a suite of observations, as that their +untruth would be more extraordinary than the existence of the fact they +affirm. The bark of trees, the skin of fruits and animals, the +feathers of birds, receive their growth and nutriment from the internal +circulation of a juice through the vessels of the individual they cover. +We conclude from analogy, then, that the shells of the testaceous tribe +receive also their growth from a like internal circulation. If it be +urged, that this does not exclude the possibility of a like shell being +produced by the passage of a fluid through the pores of the circumjacent +body, whether of earth, stone, or water; I answer, that it is not within +the usual economy of nature, to use two processes for one species of +production. While I withhold my assent, however, from this hypothesis, +I must deny it to every other I have ever seen, by which their authors +pretend to account for the origin of shells in high places. Some of +these are against the laws of nature, and therefore impossible; and +others are built on positions more difficult to assent to, than that +of De la Sauvagiere. They all suppose these shells to have covered +submarine animals, and have then to answer the question, How came they +fifteen thousand feet above the level of the sea? And they answer it, by +demanding what cannot be conceded. One, therefore, who had rather have +no opinion than a false one, will suppose this question one of those +beyond the investigation of human sagacity; or wait till further and +fuller observations enable him to decide it. + +_Chanteloup_. I heard a nightingale to-day at Chanteloup. The gardener +says it is the male, who alone sings, while the female sits; and +that when the young are hatched, he also ceases. In the boudoir at +Chanteloup, is an ingenious contrivance to hide the projecting steps of +a staircase. Three steps were of necessity to project into the boudoir: +they are therefore made triangular steps; and instead of being rested on +the floor, as usual, they are made fast at their broad end to the stair +door, swinging out and in, with that. When it shuts, it runs them under +the other steps; when open it brings them out to their proper place. In +the kitchen garden, are three pumps, worked by one horse. The pumps +are placed in an equilateral triangle, each side of which is of about +thirty-five feet. In the centre is a post, ten or twelve feet high, +and one foot in diameter. In the top of this, enters the bent end of a +lever, of about twelve or fifteen feet long, with a swingle-tree at the +other end. About three feet from the bent end, it receives, on a pin, +three horizontal bars of iron, which at their other end lay hold of one +corner of a quadrantal crank (like a bell crank) moving in a vertical +plane, to the other corner of which is hooked the vertical handle of +the pump. The crank turns on its point as a centre, by a pin or pivot +passing through it. The horse moving the lever horizontally in a circle, +every point of the lever describes a horizontal circle. That which +receives the three bars, describes a circle of six feet in diameter. +It gives a stroke then of six feet to the handle of each pump, at each +revolution. + +_Blois. Orleans_. June 9, 10. At Blois, the road leaves the river, and +traverses the hills, which are mostly reddish, sometimes gray, good +enough, in vines, corn, saintfoin. From Orleans to the river Juines, at +Etampes, it is a continued plain of corn, and saintfoin, tolerably good, +sometimes gray, sometimes red. From Etampes to Etrechy, the country is +mountainous and rocky, resembling that of Fontainebleau. _Quere_. If it +may not be the same vein? + + + + +LETTER LVIII.--TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL, June 14, 1787 + + +TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL. + +Paris, June 14, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +Having got back to Paris three days ago, I resume immediately the +correspondence with which you have been pleased to honor me. I wish I +could have begun it with more agreeable information than that furnished +me by Mr. Grand, that the funds of the United States here are exhausted, +and himself considerably in advance; and by the board of treasury at New +York, that they have no immediate prospect of furnishing us supplies. We +are thus left to shift for ourselves, without previous warning. As soon +as they shall replenish Mr. Grand's hands, I will give you notice, that +you may recommence your usual drafts on him; unless the board should +provide a separate fund for you, dependant on yourself alone, which I +have strongly and repeatedly pressed on them, in order to remove the +indecency of suffering your drafts to pass through any intermediate hand +for payment. + +My letters from America came down to the 24th of April. The disturbances +in the Eastern States were entirely settled. I do not learn that +the government had made any examples. Mr. Hancock's health being +re-established, the want of which had occasioned him to resign the +government of Massachusetts, he has been re-elected to the exclusion of +Governor Bowdoin. New York still refuses to pass the impost in any form, +and were she to pass it, Pennsylvania will not uncouple it from the +supplementary funds. These two States and Virginia, are the only ones, +my letters say, which have paid any thing into the Continental treasury, +for a twelvemonth past. I send you a copy of a circular letter from +Congress to the several States, insisting on their removing all +obstructions to the recovery of British debts. This was hurried, that it +might be delivered to the Assembly of New York before they rose. It was +delivered, but they did nothing in consequence of it. The convention to +be assembled at Philadelphia will be an able one. Ten States were known +to have appointed delegates. Maryland was about to appoint; Connecticut +was doubtful; and Rhode Island had refused. We are sure, however, of +eleven States. South Carolina has prohibited the importation of slaves +for three years; which is a step towards a perpetual prohibition. +Between six and seven hundred thousand acres of land are actually +surveyed into townships, and the sales are to begin immediately. +They are not to be sold for less than a dollar the acre, in public +certificates. I wrote you from Bordeaux on the subject of Colonel Smith. +I was sorry I missed him there, for other reasons as well as from a +curiosity to know his errand. The Notables have laid the foundation +of much good here: you have seen it detailed in the public papers. The +Prince of Wales is likely to recover from his illness, which was very +threatening. It is feared, that three powers have combined to lift the +Prince of Orange out of his difficulties. Have you yet the cipher of +which I formerly wrote to you, or any copy of it? + +I am, with sincere esteem, Dear Sir, your most obedient and most humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LIX.--TO J. BANNISTER, JUNIOR, June 19, 1787 + + +TO J. BANNISTER, JUNIOR. + +Paris, June 19, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I have received your favor of April the 23d, from New York, and am sorry +to find you have had a relapse. Time and temperance, however, will cure +you; to which add exercise. I hope you have long ago had a happy meeting +with your friends, with whom a few hours would be to me an ineffable +feast. The face of Europe appears a little turbid, but all will subside. +The Empress has endeavored to bully the Turk, who laughed at her, +and she is going back. The Emperor's reformations have occasioned the +appearance of insurrection in Flanders, and he, according to character, +will probably tread back his steps. A change of system here with respect +to the Dutch, is suspected; because the Kings of Prussia and England +openly espouse the cause of the Stadtholder, and that of the Patriots is +likely to fall. The American acquaintances whom you left here, not being +stationary, you will hardly expect news of them. Mrs. Barrett, lately +dead, was, I think, known to you. I had a letter from Ledyard lately, +dated at St. Petersburg. He had but two shirts, and yet more shirts than +shillings. Still he was determined to obtain the palm of being the first +circumambulator of the earth. He says, that having no money, they kick +him from place to place, and thus he expects to be kicked round the +globe. Are you become a great walker? You know I preach up that kind +of exercise. Shall I send you a _conte-pas_? It will cost you a dozen +louis, but be a great stimulus to walking, as it will record your steps. +I finished my tour a week or ten days ago. I went as far as +Turin, Milan, Genoa; and never passed three months and a half more +delightfully. I returned through the canal of Languedoc, by Bordeaux, +Nantes, L'Orient, and Rennes; then returned to Nantes, and came up the +Loire to Orleans. I was alone through the whole, and think one travels +more usefully when alone, because he reflects more. + +Present me in the most friendly terms to Mrs. Bannister and to your +father, and be assured of the sincere esteem of, Dear Sir, your friend +and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LX.--TO JAMES MADISON, June 20, 1787* + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, June 20, 1787. + + [* Much of this letter is in cipher: but the notes annexed + to it, have enabled the Editor to decipher and publish it.] + +Dear Sir, + +I wrote you last on the 30th of January, with a Postscript of February +the 5th. Having set out the last day of that month to try the waters +of Aix, and been journeying since, till the 10th instant, I have been +unable to continue my correspondence with you. In the mean time, I have +received your several favors of February the 15th, March the 18th and +19th, and April the 23d. The last arrived here about the 25th of May, +while those of March the 18th and 19th, though written, five weeks +earlier, arrived three weeks later. I mention this, to show you how +uncertain is the conveyance through England. + +The idea of separating the executive business of the confederacy from +Congress, as the judiciary is already, in some degree, is just and +necessary. I had frequently pressed on the members individually, while +in Congress, the doing this by a resolution of Congress for appointing +an executive committee, to act during the sessions of Congress, as +the committee of the States was to act during their vacations. But the +referring to this committee all executive business, as it should present +itself, would require a more persevering self-denial than I suppose +Congress to possess. It will be much better to make that separation by +a federal act. The negative proposed to be given them on all the acts +of the several legislatures, is now, for the first time, suggested to +my mind. _Prima facie_, I do not like it. It fails in an essential +character; that the hole and the patch should be commensurate. But this +proposes to mend a small hole, by covering the whole garment. Not more +than one out of one hundred State acts, concern the confederacy. This +proposition, then, in order to give them one degree of power, which +they ought to have, gives them ninety-nine more, which they ought not +to have, upon a presumption that they will not exercise the ninety-nine. +But upon every act there will be a preliminary question, Does this act +concern the confederacy? And was there ever a proposition so plain, as +to pass Congress without a debate? Their decisions are almost always +wise; they are like pure metal. But you know of how much dross this is +the result. Would not an appeal from the State judicature to a federal +court, in all cases where the act of Confederation controlled the +question, be as effectual a remedy, and exactly commensurate to the +defect. A British creditor, for example, sues for his debt in Virginia; +the defendant pleads an act of the State, excluding him from their +courts; the plaintiff urges the confederation, and the treaty made under +that, as controlling the State law; the judges are weak enough to decide +according to the views of their legislature. An appeal to a federal +court gets all to rights. It will be said, that this court may encroach +on the jurisdiction of the State courts. It may. But there will be a +power, to wit, Congress, to watch and restrain them. But place the same +authority in Congress itself, and there will be no power above them +to perform the same office. They will restrain within due bounds a +jurisdiction exercised by others, much more rigorously than if exercised +by themselves. + +I am uneasy at seeing that the sale of our western lands is not yet +commenced. That valuable fund for the immediate extinction of our debt +will, I fear, be suffered to slip through our fingers. Every day exposes +it to events, which no human foresight can guard against. When we +consider the temper of the people of that country, derived from the +circumstances which surround them, we must suppose their separation +possible, at every moment. If they can be retained till their +governments become settled and wise, they will remain with us always, +and be a precious part of our strength and our virtue. But this affair +of the Mississippi, by showing that Congress is capable of hesitating +on a question, which proposes a clear sacrifice of the western to the +maritime States, will with difficulty be obliterated. The proposition +of my going to Madrid, to try to recover there the ground which has +been lost at New York, by the concession of the vote of seven States, I +should think desperate. With respect to myself, weighing the pleasure of +the journey and bare possibility of success in one scale, and the strong +probability of failure and the public disappointment directed on me, in +the other, the latter preponderates. Add to this, that jealousy might be +excited in the breast of a person, who could find occasions of making me +uneasy. + +The late changes in the ministry here, excite considerable hopes. I +think we gain in them all. I am particularly happy at the reentry of +Malesherbes into the Council. His knowledge and integrity render his +value inappreciable, and the greater to me, because, while he had +no views of office, we had established together the most unreserved +intimacy. So far, too, I am pleased with Montmorin. His honesty proceeds +from the heart as well as the head, and therefore may be more surely +counted on. The King loves business, economy, order, and justice, and +wishes sincerely the good of his people; but he is irascible, rude, very +limited in his understanding, and religious bordering on bigotry. He has +no mistress, loves his queen, and is too much governed by her. She is +capricious, like her brother, and governed by him; devoted to pleasure +and expense; and not remarkable for any other vices or virtues. +Unhappily the King shows a propensity for the pleasures of the table. +That for drink has increased lately, or at least it has become more +known. + +For European news in general, I will refer you to my letter to Mr. Jay. +Is it not possible, that the occurrences in Holland may excite a desire +in many of leaving that country, and transferring their effects out of +it, and thus make an opening for shifting into their hands the debts +due to this country, to its officers, and Farmers? It would be surely +eligible. I believe Dumas, if put on the watch, might alone suffice; but +he surely might, if Mr. Adams should go when the moment offers. Dumas +has been in the habit of sending his letters open to me, to be forwarded +to Mr. Jay. During my absence, they passed through Mr. Short's hands, +who made extracts from them, by which I see he has been recommending +himself and me for the money-negotiations in Holland. It might be +thought, perhaps, that I have encouraged him in this. Be assured, my +Dear Sir, that no such idea ever entered my head. On the contrary, it is +a business which would be the most disagreeable to me of all others, +and for which I am the most unfit person living. I do not understand +bargaining, nor possess the dexterity requisite for the purpose. On the +other hand, Mr. Adams, whom I expressly and sincerely recommend, stands +already on ground for that business, which I could not gain in years. +Pray set me to rights in the minds of those, who may have supposed me +privy to this proposition. _En passant_, I will observe with respect to +Mr. Dumas, that the death of the Count de Vergennes places Congress more +at their ease, how to dispose of him. Our credit has been ill treated +here in public debate, and our debt here deemed apocryphal. We should +try to transfer this debt elsewhere, and leave nothing capable of +exciting ill thoughts between us. I shall mention in my letter to Mr. +Jay, a disagreeable affair which Mr. Barclay has been thrown into, +at Bordeaux. An honester man cannot be found, nor a slower, nor more +decisive one. His affairs, too, are so embarrassed and desperate, that +the public reputation is, every moment, in danger of being +compromitted with him. He is perfectly amiable and honest, with all his +embarrassments. + +By the next packet, I shall be able to send you some books, as also your +watch and pedometer. The two last are not yet done. To search for books, +and forward them to Havre, will require more time than I had between +my return and the departure of this packet. Having been a witness, +heretofore, to the divisions in Congress on the subject of their foreign +ministers, it would be a weakness in me to suppose none with respect to +myself, or to count with any confidence on the renewal of my commission, +which expires on the 10th day of March next; and the more so, as instead +of requiring the disapprobation of seven States, as formerly, that of +one suffices for a recall, when Congress consists of only seven States, +two, when of eight, &c. which I suppose to be habitually their numbers +at present. Whenever I leave this place, it will be necessary to begin +my arrangements six months before my departure; and these, once fairly +begun and under way, and my mind set homewards, a change of purpose +could hardly take place. If it should be the desire of Congress that I +should continue still longer, I could wish to know it, at farthest, by +the packet which will sail from New York in September. Because, were +I to put off longer the quitting my house, selling my furniture, he, +I should not have time left to wind up my affairs; and having once +quitted, and sold off my furniture, I could not think of establishing +myself here again. I take the liberty of mentioning this matter to you, +not with a desire to change the purpose of Congress, but to know it in +time. I have never fixed in my mind, the epoch of my return, so far as +shall depend on myself, but I never supposed it very distant. Probably +I shall not risk a second vote on this subject. Such trifling things may +draw on me the displeasure of one or two States, and thus submit me to +the disgrace of a recall. + +I thank you for the paccan nuts, which accompanied your letter of March. +Could you procure me a copy of the bill for proportioning crimes and +punishments, in the form in which it was ultimately rejected by the +House of Delegates? Young Mr. Bannister desired me to send him regularly +the _Mercure de France_. I will ask leave to do this through you, and +that you will adopt such method of forwarding them to him, as will save +him from being submitted to postage, which they would not be worth. As +a compensation for your trouble, you will be free to keep them till you +shall have read them. I am, with sentiments of the most sincere esteem, +Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXI.--TO JOHN JAY, June 21,1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, June 21,1787. + +Sir, + +I had the honor of addressing you in a letter of May the 4th, from +Marseilles, which was to have gone by the last packet. Bat it arrived +a few hours too late for that conveyance, and has been committed to a +private one, passing through England, with a promise that it should go +through no post-office. + +I was desirous, while at the sea-ports, to obtain a list of the American +vessels which have come to them since the peace, in order to estimate +their comparative importance to us, as well as the general amount of our +commerce with this country, so far as carried on in our own bottoms. +At Marseilles, I found there had been thirty-two, since that period; at +Cette, not a single one; at Bayonne, one of our free ports, only one. +This last fact I learned from other information, not having visited that +place; as it would have been a deviation from my route, too considerable +for the importance of the object. At Bordeaux, Nantes, and L'Orient, I +could not obtain lists in the moment; but am in hopes I shall be able +to get them ere long. Though more important to us, they will probably be +more imperfect than that of Marseilles. At Nantes, I began with Monsieur +Dobree an arrangement of his claims. I visited the military stores, +which have been detained there so long, opened some boxes of each +kind, and found the state of their contents much better than had been +represented. An exact list of the articles is to be sent me. + +The importations into L'Orient of other fish-oils, besides those of the +whale, brought to my notice there a defect in the letter of Monsieur de +Calonne, of October the 22nd, which letter was formerly communicated to +you. In that, whale oil only was named. The other fish-oils, therefore, +have continued to pay the old duties. In a conference with Monsieur de +Villedeuil, the present Comptroller General, since my return, I proposed +the extending the exemption to all fish-oils, according to the letter +of the Hanseatic treaty, which had formed the basis of the regulations +respecting us. I think this will be agreed to. The delays of office +first, then the illness of Monsieur de Colonne, and lastly, his removal +and the throng of business occasioned by the _Assemblee des Notables_, +have prevented the reducing the substance of the letter into the form +of an _Arret_, as yet though I have continued soliciting it as much +as circumstances would bear. I am now promised that it shall be done +immediately, and it shall be so far retrospective to the date of the +letter, as that all duties paid since that, shall be refunded. + +The new accessions of the ministry are valued here. Good is hoped from +the Archbishop of Toulouse, who succeeds the Count de Vergennes as _Chef +du Conseil de finance_. Monsieur de Villedeuil, the Comptroller General, +has been approved by the public, in the offices he has heretofore +exercised. The Duke de Nivernois, called to the Council, is reckoned +a good and able man; and Monsieur de Malesherbes, called also to the +Council, is unquestionably the first character in the kingdom, for +integrity, patriotism, knowledge, and experience in business. There is a +fear that the Marechal de Castries is disposed to retire. + +The face of things in Europe is a little turbid, at present; but +probably all will subside. The Empress of Russia, it is supposed, will +not push her pretensions against the Turks to actual war. Weighing +the fondness of the Emperor for innovation, against his want of +perseverance, it is difficult to calculate what he will do with his +discontented subjects in Brabant and Flanders. If those provinces alone +were concerned, he would probably give back; but this would induce an +opposition to his plan, in all his other dominions. Perhaps he may be +able to find a compromise. The cause of the Patriots in Holland is a +little clouded at present. + +England and Prussia seem disposed to interpose effectually. The former +has actually ordered a fleet of six sail of the line, northwardly, under +Gore; and the latter threatens to put her troops into motion. The +danger of losing such a weight in their scale, as that of Prussia, would +occasion this court to prefer conciliation to war. Add to this, the +distress of their finances, and perhaps not so warm a zeal in the new +ministry for the innovations in Holland. I hardly believe they will +think it worth while to purchase the change of constitution proposed +there, at the expense of a war. But of these things, you will receive +more particular and more certain details from Mr. Dumas, to whom they +belong. + +Mr. Eden is appointed ambassador from England to Madrid. To the hatred +borne us by his court and country, is added a recollection of the +circumstances of the unsuccessful embassy to America, of which he made a +part. So that I think he will carry to Madrid, dispositions to do us all +the ill he can. + +The late change in the ministry is very favorable to the prospects +of the Chevalier de la Luzerne. The Count de Montmorin, Monsieur de +Malesherbes, and Monsieur de Lamoignon, the _Garde des Sceaux_, are his +near relations. Probably something will be done for him, and without +delay. The promise of the former administration to the Count de Moutier, +to succeed to this vacancy, should it take place, will perhaps be +performed by the present one. + +Mr. Barclay has probably informed you of his having been arrested +in Bordeaux, for a debt contracted in the way of his commerce. He +immediately applied to the parliament of that place, who ordered his +discharge. This took place after five days' actual imprisonment. I +arrived at Bordeaux a few days after his liberation. As the Procureur +General of the King had interested himself to obtain it, with uncommon +zeal, and that too on public principles, I thought it my duty to wait +on him and return him my thanks. I did the same to the President of the +parliament, for the body over which he presided; what would have been an +insult in America, being an indispensable duty here. You will see by the +enclosed printed paper, on what grounds the Procureur insisted on Mr. +Barclay's liberation. Those on which the parliament ordered it, are not +expressed. On my arrival here, I spoke with the minister on the subject. +He observed, that the character of Consul is no protection in this +country, against process for debt: that as to the character with +which Mr. Barclay had been invested at the court of Morocco, it was +questionable whether it would be placed on the diplomatic line, as it +had not been derived immediately from Congress; that if it were, +it would have covered him to Paris only, where he had received his +commission, had he proceeded directly thither, but that his long stay at +Bordeaux, must be considered as terminating it there. I observed to him, +that Mr. Barclay had been arrested almost immediately on his arrival at +Bordeaux. But, says he, the arrest was made void by the parliament, and +still he has continued there several weeks. True, I replied, but his +adversaries declared they would arrest him again, the moment he should +be out of the jurisdiction of the parliament of Bordeaux, and have +actually engaged the _Marechausee_ on the road, to do it. This seemed +to impress him. He said he could obtain a letter of safe conduct which +would protect him to Paris, but that immediately on his arrival here, +he would be liable to arrest. I asked him, if such a letter could not +be obtained to protect him to Paris, and back to Bordeaux, and even to +America? He said, that for that, the consent of the greater part of his +creditors would be necessary; and even with this, it was very doubtful +whether it could be obtained: still, if I would furnish him with that +consent, he would do what should depend on him. I am persuaded he will, +and have written to Mr. Barclay to obtain the consent of his creditors. +This is the footing on which this matter stands at present. I have +stated it thus particularly, that you may know the truth, which will +probably be misrepresented in the English papers, to the prejudice +of Mr. Barclay. This matter has been a great affliction to him, but no +dishonor where its true state is known. Indeed he is incapable of doing +any thing not strictly honorable. + +In a letter of August the 30th, 1785, I had the honor of mentioning +to you what had passed here, on the subject of a convention for the +regulation of the two post offices. I now inclose you a letter from the +Baron D'Ogny, who is at the head of that department, which shows that +he still expects some arrangement. I have heard it said, that M. de +Creve-coeur is authorized to treat on this subject. You doubtless know +if this be true. The articles may certainly be better adjusted there, +than here. This letter from the Baron D'Ogny was in consequence of an +application from a servant of mine, during my absence, which would not +have been made had I been here. Nor will it be repeated; it being my +opinion and practice to pay small sums of money, rather than to ask +favors. + +I have the honor to inclose you also, copies of a letter and papers +from the Marechal de Castries, on the claim of an individual against the +State of South Carolina, for services performed on board the Indian; +and the petition of another, on a like claim: also copies of letters +received from O'Bryan at Algiers, and from Mr. Lambe. A letter of the +26th of May, from Mr. Montgomery, at Alicant, informs me, that by a +vessel arrived at Carthagena from Algiers, they learn the death of the +Dey of that republic. Yet, as we hear nothing of it through any other +channel, it may be doubted. It escaped me at the time of my departure to +Aix, to make arrangements for sending you the gazettes regularly, by the +packets. The whole are now sent, though a great part of them are so old +as to be not worth perusal. Your favor of April the 24th, has been duly +received. + +I have the honor,to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect. Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXII.--TO MADAME DE CORNY, June 30,1787 + + +TO MADAME DE CORNY. + +Paris, June 30,1787. + +On my return to Paris, it was among my first attentions to go to the rue +Chaussee d'Antin, No. 17, and inquire after my friends whom I had left +there. I was told they were in England. And how do you like England, +Madam? I know your taste for the works of art gives you little +disposition to Anglomania. Their mechanics certainly exceed all others +in some lines. But be just to your own nation. They have not patience, +it is true, to set rubbing a piece of steel from morning to night, as a +lethargic Englishman will do, full charged with porter. But do not their +benevolence, their cheerfulness, their amiability, when compared with +the growling temper and manners of the people among whom you are, +compensate their want of patience? I am in hopes that when the splendor +of their shops, which is all that is worth seeing in London, shall +have lost the charm of novelty, you will turn a wishful eye to the good +people of Paris, and find that you cannot be so happy with any others. +The Bois de Boulogne invites you earnestly to come and survey its +beautiful verdure, to retire to its umbrage from the heats of the +season. I was through it to-day, as I am every day. Every tree charged +me with this invitation to you. Passing by la Muette, it wished for you +as a mistress. You want a country-house. This is for sale; and in the +Bois de Boulogne, which I have always insisted to be most worthy of +your preference. Come then, and buy it. If I had had confidence in your +speedy return, I should have embarrassed you in earnest with my little +daughter. But an impatience to have her with me, after her separation +from her friends, added to a respect for your ease, has induced me to +send a servant for her. + +I tell you no news, because you have correspondents infinitely more _au +fait_ of the details at Paris than I am. And I offer you no services, +because I hope you will come as soon as the letter could, which should +command them. Be assured, however, that nobody is more disposed to +render them, nor entertains for you a more sincere and respectful +attachment, than him, who, after charging you with his compliments to +Monsieur de Corny, has the honor of offering you the homage of those +sentiments of distinguished esteem and regard, with which he is, Dear +Madam, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXIII.--TO JOHN ADAMS, July 1, 1787 + + +TO JOHN ADAMS. + +Paris, July 1, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I returned about three weeks ago from a very useless voyage; useless, +I mean, as to the object which first suggested it, that of trying the +effect of the mineral waters of Aix, in Provence, on my hand. I +tried these, because recommended among six or eight others as equally +beneficial, and because they would place me at the beginning of a tour +to the seaports of Marseilles, Bordeaux, Nantes, and L'Orient, which I +had long meditated, in hopes that a knowledge of the places and persons +concerned in our commerce, and the information to be got from them, +might enable me sometimes to be useful. I had expected to satisfy myself +at Marseilles, of the causes of the difference of quality between the +rice of Carolina, and that of Piedmont, which is brought in quantities +to Marseilles. Not being able to do it, I made an excursion of three +weeks into the rice country beyond the Alps, going through it from +Vercelli to Pavia, about sixty miles. I found the difference to be, not +in the management, as had been supposed both here and in Carolina, but +in the species of rice; and I hope to enable them in Carolina, to begin +the cultivation of the Piedmont rice, and carry it on, hand in hand, +with their own, that they may supply both qualities which is absolutely +necessary at this market. I had before endeavored to lead the depot of +rice from Cowes to Honfleur, and hope to get it received there on such +terms, as may draw that branch of commerce from England to this country. +It is an object of two hundred and fifty thousand guineas a year. While +passing through the towns of Turin, Milan, and Genoa, I satisfied +myself of the practicability of introducing our whale-oil for their +consumption, and suppose it would be equally so in the other great +cities of that country. I was sorry that I was not authorized to set the +matter on foot. The merchants with whom I chose to ask conferences met +me freely, and communicated fully, knowing I was in a public character. +I could, however, only prepare a disposition to meet our oil-merchants. +On the article of tobacco, I was more in possession of my ground; and +put matters into a train for inducing their government to draw their +tobaccos directly from the United States, and not, as heretofore, from +Great Britain. I am now occupied with the new ministry here, to put +the concluding hand to the new regulations for our commerce with this +country, announced in the letter of Monsieur de Calonne, which I +sent you last fall. I am in hopes, in addition to those, to obtain +a suppression of the duties on tar, pitch, and turpentine, and, an +extension of the privileges of American _whale oil_, to their _fish +oils_ in general. I find that the quantity of cod-fish oil brought to +L'Orient is considerable. This being got off hand (which will be in a +few days), the chicaneries and vexations of the Farmers on the article +of tobacco, and their elusions of the order of Bernis, call for the next +attention. I have reasons to hope good dispositions in the new ministry +towards our commerce with this country. Besides endeavoring, on all +occasions, to multiply the points of contact and connection with this +country, which I consider as our surest mainstay under every event, I +have had it much at heart to remove from between us every subject of +misunderstanding or irritation. Our debts to the King, to the Officers, +and the Farmers, are of this description. The having complied with no +part of our engagements in these, draws on us a great deal of censure, +and occasioned a language in the _Assemblee des Notables_, very likely +to produce dissatisfaction between us. Dumas being on the spot in +Holland, I had asked of him some time ago, in confidence, his opinion of +the practicability of transferring these debts from France to Holland, +and communicated his answer to Congress, pressing them to get you to go +over to Holland, and try to effect this business. Your knowledge of the +ground, and former successes, occasioned me to take this liberty without +consulting you, because I was sure you would not weigh your personal +trouble against public good. I have had no answer from Congress; but +hearing of your journey to Holland, have hoped that some money operation +had led you there. If it related to the debts of this country, I +would ask a communication of what you think yourself at liberty to +communicate, as it might change the form of my answers to the eternal +applications I receive. The debt to the officers of France, carries an +interest of about two thousand guineas, so we may suppose its principal +is between thirty and forty thousand. This makes more noise against us, +than all our other debts put together. + +I send you the _Arrets_ which begin the reformation here, and some +other publications respecting America; together with copies of letters +received from O'Bryan and Lambe. It is believed, that a naval armament +has been ordered at Brest, in correspondence with that of England. +We know, certainly, that orders are given to form a camp in the +neighborhood of Brabant, and that Count Rochambeau has the command of +it. Its amount I cannot assert. Report says fifteen thousand men. This +will derange the plans of economy. I take the liberty of putting under +your cover a letter for Mrs. Kinloch, of South Carolina, with a packet, +and will trouble you to inquire for her, and have them delivered. The +packet is of great consequence, and therefore referred to her care, as +she will know the safe opportunities of conveying it. Should you not be +able to find her, and can forward the packet to its address, by any very +safe conveyance, I will beg you to do it. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect friendship +and esteem, Dear Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXIV.--TO DAVID HARTLEY, July 2,1787 + +TO DAVID HARTLEY. + +Paris, July 2,1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I received lately your favor of April the 23d, on my return from a +journey of three or four months; and am always happy in an occasion of +recalling myself to your memory. The most interesting intelligence from +America, is that respecting the late insurrection in Massachusetts. The +cause of this has not been developed to me to my perfect satisfaction. +The most probable is, that those individuals were of the imprudent +number of those who have involved themselves in debt beyond their +abilities to pay, and that a vigorous effort in that government to +compel the payment of private debts, and raise money for public ones, +produced the resistance. I believe you may be assured, than an idea or +desire of returning to any thing like their ancient government, never +entered into their heads. I am not discouraged by this. For thus I +calculate. An insurrection in one of thirteen States, in the course of +eleven years that they have subsisted, amounts to one in any particular +state, in one hundred and forty-three years, say a century and a +half. This would not be near as many as have happened in every other +government that has ever existed. So that we shall have the difference +between a light and a heavy government as clear gain. I have no fear, +but that the result of our experiment will be, that men may be trusted +to govern themselves without a master. Could the contrary of this be +proved, I should conclude, either that there is no God, or that he is a +malevolent being. You have heard of the federal convention, now sitting +at Philadelphia, for the amendment of the Confederation. Eleven States +appointed delegates certainly; it was expected that Connecticut would +also appoint, the moment its Assembly met. Rhode Island had refused. I +expect they will propose several amendments; that that relative to our +commerce will probably be adopted immediately, but that the others must +wait to be adopted, one after another, in proportion as the minds of the +States ripen for them. Dr. Franklin enjoys good health. I shall always +be happy to hear from you, being, with sentiments of very sincere esteem +and respect, Dear Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXV.--TO B. VAUGHAN, July 2, 1787 + + +TO B. VAUGHAN. + +Paris, July 2, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +Your favor of February the 16th came to my hands in the moment I was +setting out on a tour through the southern parts of France and northern +of Italy, from which I am but just now returned. I avail myself of the +earliest moment to acknowledge its receipt, and to thank you for the box +of magnets which I found here. Though I do not know certainly by or from +whom they come, I presume they came by Colonel Smith, who was here in my +absence, and from Messrs. Nairne and Blunt, through your good offices. I +think your letter of February the 16th flatters me with the expectation +of another, with observations on the hygrometers I had proposed. I value +what comes from you too much, not to remind you of it. Your favor by Mr. +Garnett also came during my absence. I presume he has left Paris, as +I can hear nothing of him. I have lost the opportunity, therefore, +of seeing his method of resisting friction, as well as of showing, by +attentions to him, respect for yourself and your recommendations. Mr. +Paine (Common Sense) is here on his way to England. He has brought the +model of an iron bridge, with which he supposes a single arch of four +hundred feet may be made. It has not yet arrived in Paris. Among other +projects, with which we begin to abound in America, is one for finding +the longitude by the variation of the magnetic needle. The author +supposes two points, one near each pole, through the northern of which +pass all the magnetic meridians of the northern hemisphere, and through +the southern those of the southern hemisphere. He determines their +present position and periodical revolution. It is said his publication +is plausible. I have not seen it. + +What are you going to do with your naval armament on your side the +channel. Perhaps you will ask me, what they are about to do here. A +British navy and Prussian army hanging over Holland on one side, a +French navy and army hanging over it on the other, looks as if they +thought of fighting. Yet I think both parties too wise for that, too +laudably intent on economizing, rather than on further embarrassing +their finances. May they not propose to have a force on the spot to +establish some neutral form of a constitution, which these powers will +cook up among themselves, without consulting the parties for whom it +is intended? The affair of Geneva shows such combinations possible. +Wretched, indeed, is the nation, in whose affairs foreign powers are +once permitted to intermeddle. Lord Wycombe is with us at present. His +good sense, information, and discretion are much beyond his years, and +promise good things for your country. + +I beg you to accept assurances of the esteem/and respect, with which +I have the honor to be, Dear Sir, your most obedient and most humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXVI.--TO M. L'ABBE MORELLET, July 2, 1787 + + +TO M. L'ABBE MORELLET. + +Paris, July 2, 1787. + +I am sorry, my Dear Sir, that your interest should be affected by the +ill behavior of Barrois. But when you consider the facts, you will be +sensible that I could not have indulged his indolence further, without +increasing the injury to a more punctual workman. Stockdale, of London, +had asked leave to print my Notes. I agreed to it; and promised he +should have the plate of the map as soon as it should be corrected, +and the copies struck off for you and myself. He thereupon printed his +edition completely in three weeks. The printer, who was to strike off +two hundred and fifty maps for me, kept the plate but five days. It was +then delivered to Barrois, with notice that it could not be left +longer with him, than should suffice to strike off his number. Repeated +applications for it, by Mr. Short and my servant, were only answered +by repeated promises, and times of delivery fixed, no one of which was +performed. When I returned, he had been possessed of the plate upwards +of two months. I was astonished and confounded, to be told it had not +been sent to Stockdale, and that his edition had been lying dead on his +hands three months. I sent to Barrois the very day of my return, to let +him know, that justice to Stockdale did not permit me to defer sending +him the plate any longer: yet I would wait five days, at the end of +which he must deliver me the plate, whether his maps were done or not. I +received no answer, but waited ten days. I then sent for the plate. The +answer was, he was not at home. I sent again the next day. Answer, he +was not at home. I sent the third day. Not at home. I then ordered the +messenger to go back, and wait till he should come home. This produced +an answer of two lines, _qu'il alloit soigner son ouvrier?_ I wrote him +word in return, to deliver the plate instantly. This I think was on a +Saturday or Sunday. He told the messenger he would let me have it the +Thursday following. I took patience, and sent on the Friday, but telling +the messenger, if he refused to deliver it, to inform him I would be +plagued no more with sending messages, but apply to the police. He then +delivered it, and I sent it off immediately to London. He had kept it +three months, of which three weeks were after my return. I think, Sir, +you will be satisfied that justice to Stockdale, justice to myself, +who had passed my word for sending on the plate, and sensibility to the +shuffling conduct of Barrois, permitted me to act no otherwise. But no +matter. Let his ill behavior make no odds between you and me. It will +affect your interest, and that suffices to determine me to order back +the plate, as soon as Stockdale has done with it. He will not require +more days, than Barrois months. So that it will be here before you can +want it. But it must never go into Barrois' hands again, nor of any +person depending on him, or under his orders. The workman who struck off +the two hundred and fifty for me, seems to have been diligent enough. +Either he, or any other workman you please of that description, shall +have it, to strike what number you wish. I forgot to observe, in its +proper place, that when I was in the midst of my difficulties, I did +myself the honor of calling on you, as well to have that of asking after +your health on my return, as of asking your assistance to obtain the +plate. Unluckily you were gone to Versailles; so I was obliged to +proceed as well as I could. It is no excuse for Barrois, to say, he +could not get his _imprimeur_ to proceed. He should have applied to +another. But as to you, it shall be set to rights in the manner I +have before stated. Accept my regret that you were in the hands of so +underserving a workman, and one who placed me under the necessity of +interrupting a work which interested you. Be assured, at the same time, +of the sincerity of those sentiments of esteem and respect with which +I have the honor to be, Dear Sir, your most obedient and most humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +OBSERVATIONS ON THE LETTER OF MONSIEUR DE CALONNE + + [The following observations appear to have been addressed to + the Count de Montmorin, about the 6th of July, 1787.] + +Observations on the Letter of Monsieur de Calonne to Monsieur Jefferson, +dated, Fontainbleau, October 22, 1786. + +A committee was appointed, in the course of the last year, to take a +view of the subjects of commerce which might be brought from the United +States of America, in exchange for those of France, and to consider what +advantages and facilities might be offered to encourage that commerce. +The letter of Monsieur de Calonne was founded on their report. It was +conclusive as to the articles on which satisfactory information had been +then obtained, and reserved, for future consideration, certain others, +needing further inquiry. It is proposed now to review those unfinished +articles, that they may also be comprehended in the _Arret_, and the +regulations on this branch of commerce be rendered complete. + +1. The letter promised to diminish the _Droits du Roi et d'amiraute_, +payable by an American vessel entering into a port at France, and to +reduce what should remain into a single duty, which shall be regulated +by the draught of the vessel, or her number of masts. It is doubted +whether it will be expedient to regulate the duty, in either of these +ways. If by the draught,of water, it will fall unequally on us as a +nation; because we build our vessels sharp-bottomed, for swift sailing, +so that they draw more water than those of other nations, of the +same burthen. If by the number of masts, it will fall unequally on +individuals; because we often see ships of one hundred and eighty tons, +and brigs of three hundred and sixty. This, then, would produce an +inequality among individuals, of six to one. The present principle is +the most just, to regulate by the burthen. It is certainly desirable, +that these duties should be reduced to a single one. Their names and +numbers perplex and harass the merchant, more than their amount; subject +him to imposition, and to the suspicion of it when there is none. An +intention of general reformation in this article has been accordingly +announced, with augmentation as to foreigners. We are in hopes, that +this augmentation is not to respect us; because it is proposed as a +measure of reciprocity, whereas, in some of our States, no such duties +exist, and in others they are extremely light; because we have been +made to hope a diminution, instead of augmentation; and because this +distinction cannot draw on France any just claims from other nations; +the _jura gentis amicissima_, conferred by her late treaties, having +reference expressly to the nations of Europe only; and those +conferred by the more ancient ones not being susceptible of any other +interpretation, nor admitting a pretension of reference to a nation +which did not then exist, and which has come into existence under +circumstances distinguishing its commerce from that of all other +nations. Merchandise received from them, takes employment from the +poor of France; ours gives it: theirs is brought in, the last stage of +manufacture; ours in the first: we bring our tobaccos to be manufactured +into snuff, our flax and hemp into linen and cordage, our furs into +hats, skins into saddlery, shoes, and clothing; we take nothing till it +has received the last hand. + +2. Fish-oils. The Hanseatic treaty was the basis, on which the +diminution of duty on this article was asked and granted. It is +expressly referred to as such, in the letter of Monsieur de Calonne. +Instead, however, of the expression, _huile et graisse de baleine et +d'autres poisons_, used in that treaty, the letter uses the terms, +'_huiles de baleine, spermaceti, et tout ce qui est compris sous +ces denominations._' And the Farmers have availed themselves of this +variation, to refuse the diminution of duty on the oils of the _vache +marine, chien de mer, esturgeon_, and other fish. It is proposed, +therefore, to re-establish in the _Arret_, the expression of the +Hanseatic treaty, and to add, from the same treaty, the articles +'_baleine coupee et fanon de baleine_.' + +The letter states these regulations as finally made by the King. The +merchants, on this supposition, entered into speculations. But they +found themselves called on for the old duties, not only on other +fish-oils, but on the whale-oil. Monsieur de Calonne always promised, +that the _Arret_ should be retrospective to the date of the letter, so +as to refund to them the duties they had thus been obliged to pay. To +this, attention is prayed in forming the _Arret_. His majesty having +been pleased, as an encouragement to the importation of our fish-oils, +to abolish the _Droits de fabrication_, it is presumed that the purpose +announced, of continuing those duties on foreign oils, will not be +extended to us. + +3. Rice. The duty on this, is only seven and a half deniers the quintal, +or about one quarter per cent, on its first cost. While this serves to +inform a government of the quantities imported, it cannot discourage +that importation. Nothing further, therefore, is necessary on this +article. + +4. _Potasse_. This article is of principal utility to France, in her +bleacheries of linen, glass-works, and soap-works; and the potash of +America, being made of green wood, is known to be the best in the world. +All duty on it was, therefore, abolished by the King. But the city of +Rouen levies on it a duty of twenty sols the quintal, which is very +sensible in its price, brings it dearer to the bleacheries near Paris, +to those of Beauvais, Laval, &c. and to the glass-works, and encourages +them to give a preference to the potash or soude of other nations. This +is a counteraction of the views of the King, expressed in the letter, +which it is hoped will be prevented. + +5. Turpentine, tar, and pitch were not decided on, on the former +occasion. Turpentine (_terebenthine_) pays ten sols the quintal, and ten +sols the livre, making fifteen sols the quintal; which is ten per cent, +on its prime cost. Tar (_goudron, braigras_) pays eight livres the +_leth_ of twelve barrels, and ten sols the livre, amounting to twenty +sols the barrel; which is twelve and a half per cent, on its prime cost. +Pitch (_brai sec_) pays ten sols the quintal, and ten sols the livre, +making fifteen sols the quintal; which is twenty per cent, on its prime +cost. Duties of from ten to twenty per cent., on articles of heavy +carriage, prevent their importation. They eat up all the profits of the +merchant, and often subject him to loss. This has been much the case +with respect to turpentine, tar, and pitch, which are principal articles +of remittance for the State of North Carolina. It is hoped, that it +will coincide with the views of government, in making the present +regulations, to suppress the duties on these articles, which, of all +others, can bear them least. + + + + +LETTER LXVII.--TO T. M. RANDOLPH, JUNIOR, July 6, 1787 + + +TO T. M. RANDOLPH, JUNIOR. + +Paris, July 6, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +Your favor of April the 14th came here during my absence on a journey +through the southern parts of France and northern of Italy, from which I +am but lately returned. This cause alone, has prevented your receiving +a more early answer to it. I am glad to find, that among the various +branches of science presenting themselves to your mind, you have fixed +on that of politics as your principal pursuit. Your country will derive +from this a more immediate and sensible benefit. She has much for you +to do. For though we may say with confidence, that the worst of the +American constitutions, is better than the best which ever existed +before, in any other country, and that they are wonderfully perfect for +a first essay, yet every human essay must have defects. It will remain, +therefore, to those now coming on the stage of public affairs, to +perfect what has been so well begun by those, going off it. Mathematics, +Natural Philosophy, Natural History, Anatomy, Chemistry, Botany, will +become amusements for your hours of relaxation, and auxiliaries to your +principal studies. Precious and delightful ones they will be. As soon +as such a foundation is laid in them, as you may build on as you please, +hereafter, I suppose you will proceed to your main objects, Politics, +Law, Rhetoric, and History. As to these, the place where you study them +is absolutely indifferent. I should except Rhetoric, a very essential +member of them, and which I suppose must be taught to advantage where +you are. You would do well, therefore, to attend the public exercises +in this branch also, and to do it with very particular diligence. +This being done, the question arises, where you shall fix yourself for +studying Politics, Law, and History. I should not hesitate to decide +in favor of France, because you will, at the same time, be learning to +speak the language of that country, become absolutely essential under +our present circumstances. The best method of doing this, would be +to fix yourself in some family where there are women and children, in +Passy, Auteuil, or some other of the little towns in reach of Paris. The +principal hours of the day you will attend to your studies, and in those +of relaxation associate with the family. You will learn to speak better +from women and children in three months, than from men in a year. Such a +situation, too, will render more easy a due attention to economy of time +and money. Having pursued your main studies here about two years, and +acquired a facility in speaking French, take a tour of four or five +months through this country and Italy, return then to Virginia, and pass +a year in Williamsburg, under the care of Mr. Wythe; and you will be +ready to enter on the public stage, with superior advantages. I have +proposed to you to carry on the study of the law, with that of politics +and history. Every political measure will, for ever, have an intimate +connection with the laws of the land; and he who knows nothing of these, +will always be perplexed, and often foiled by adversaries having +the advantage of that knowledge over him. Besides, it is a source of +infinite comfort to reflect, that under every change of fortune, we +have a resource in ourselves, from which we may be able to derive an +honorable subsistence. I would, therefore, propose not only the study, +but the practice of the law for some time, to possess yourself of the +habit of public speaking. With respect to modern languages, French, as +I have before observed, is indispensable. Next to this, the Spanish +is most important to an American. Our connection with Spain is already +important, and will become daily more so. Besides this, the ancient part +of American history is written chiefly in Spanish. To a person who would +make a point of reading and speaking French and Spanish, I should +doubt the utility of learning Italian. These three languages, being all +degeneracies from the Latin, resemble one another so much, that I doubt +the probability of keeping in the head a distinct knowledge of them +all. I suppose that he who learns them all, will speak a compound of the +three, and neither perfectly. The journey which I propose to you, +need not be expensive, and would be very useful. With your talents +and industry, with science, and that steadfast honesty which eternally +pursues right, regardless of consequences, you may promise yourself +every thing--but health, without which there is no happiness. An +attention to health, then, should take place of every other object. The +time necessary to secure this by active exercises, should be devoted +to it, in preference to every other pursuit. I know the difficulty with +which a studious man tears himself from his studies, at any given moment +of the day. But his happiness, and that of his family, depend on it. +The most uninformed mind with a healthy body, is happier than the wisest +valetudinarian. I need not tell you, that if I can be useful to you in +any part of this, or any other plan you shall adopt, you will make me +happy by commanding my services. + +Will you be so good, Sir, as to return my most respectful thanks for the +diploma with which I am honored by the society instituted with you, for +the encouragement of the study of Natural History. I am afraid it +will never be in my power to contribute any thing to the object of the +institution. Circumstances have thrown me into a very different line of +life; and not choice, as I am happy to find in your case. In the year +1781, while confined to my room by a fall from my horse, I wrote some +Notes, in answer to the inquiries of M. de Marbois, as to the natural +and political state of Virginia. They were hasty and undigested: yet as +some of these touch slightly on some objects of its natural history, I +will take the liberty of asking the society to accept a copy of them. +For the same reason, and because too, they touch on the political +condition of our country, I will beg leave to present you with a copy, +and ask the favor of you to find a conveyance for them, from London to +Edinburgh. They are printed by Stockdale, bookseller, Piccadilly, and +will be ready in three or four weeks from this time. I will direct him +to deliver two copies to your order. Repeating, constantly, the +proffer of my services, I shall only add assurances of the esteem and +attachment, with which I am, Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXVIII.--TO STEPHEN CATHALAN, JUNIOR, July 21,1787 + +TO STEPHEN CATHALAN, JUNIOR. + +Paris, July 21,1787. + +Sir, + +I received your favor of May the 9th, just as I was stepping into the +barge on my departure from Cette; which prevented my answering it from +that place. On my arrival here, I thought I would avail myself of the +opportunity of paying your balance, to make a little acquaintance with +Sir John Lambert. One or two unsuccessful attempts to find him at home, +with the intermediate procrastinations well known to men of business, +prevented my seeing him till yesterday, and have led me on to this +moment, through a perpetual remorse of conscience for not writing +to you, and in the constant belief that it would be to morrow and to +morrow. At length, I have seen him, paid him the eighty-five livres +which you have been so kind as to advance for me, and am actually at my +writing table, returning you thanks for this kindness, and to yourself +and the family for the thousand others I received at their hands, +at Marseilles. My journey, after leaving you, wanted nothing but +the company of Madame Cathalan and yourself, to render it perfectly +agreeable. I felt the want of it peculiarly on the _canal de Languedoc_, +where, with society, the mode of travelling would have been charming. I +was much indebted to M. Minaudier, for a good equipment from Agde, and +unceasing attentions to that place; for which I was indebted to your +recommendations as well as to his goodness. + +I am honored with your father's letters of June the 30th; and as he does +not read English, and I cannot write French, I must beg leave to answer +him through you. I thank him for his hints on the subject of tobacco. +I am now pressing for arrangements as to that article, to take place on +the expiration of Mr. Morris's contract, and the order of Bernis. +What form this business will take, or what will be the nature of the +arrangements, or whether there will be any, I am as yet unable to say. I +will take care to inform you the moment there is a decision. + +The public business with which Mr. Barclay has been charged rendering +it necessary for him to repair to Congress, and the interest of his +creditors, his family, and himself requiring his return to America, he +has departed for that country. I know nothing of Mr. Barclay's affairs +in this country. He has good possessions in America, which, he assured +me, were much more than sufficient to satisfy all the demands against +him. He went, determined to convert those immediately into money, and to +collect the debts due to him there, that he might be enabled to pay his +debts. My opinion of his integrity is such, as to leave no doubt in my +mind, that he will do every thing in his power to render justice to his +creditors; and I know so well his attachment to M. Cathalan, as to be +satisfied, that if he makes any difference among his creditors, he will +be among the most favored. Mr. Barclay is an honest and honorable man, +and is more goaded towards the payment of his debts by his own feelings, +than by all the processes of law, which could be set on foot against +him. + +No arrangements having ever been made as yet, for cases like that of +the carpenter of the American ship Sally, I am unable to answer on that +subject. I am in hopes, his money will last till he recovers his senses, +or till we can receive instructions what to do in that and similar +cases. + +M. Cathalan wishes a copy of my Notes on Virginia. If you will be so +good as to advise me by what channel they will go safely, I will do +myself the honor of sending a copy, either of the original or of the +translation. Present me affectionately to Mrs. Cathalan, the mother and +daughter; tell the latter I feed on the hopes of seeing her one day at +Paris. My friendly respects wait also on your father; and on yourself, +assurances of the esteem and consideration with which I have the honor +to be, Dear Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXIX.--TO THE DELEGATES OF RHODE ISLAND, July 22,1787 + + +TO THE DELEGATES OF RHODE ISLAND. + +Paris, July 22,1787. + +Gentlemen, + +I was honored, in the month of January last, with a letter from the +honorable the Delegates of Rhode Island in Congress, enclosing a letter +from the corporation of Rhode Island College to his Most Christian +Majesty, and some other papers. I was then in the hurry of a preparation +for a journey into the south of France, and therefore unable, at that +moment, to make the inquiries which the object of the letter rendered +necessary. As soon as I returned, which was in the last month, I +turned my attention to that object, which was the establishment of a +professorship of the French language in the College, and the obtaining +a collection of the best French authors, with the aid of the King. +That neither the College nor myself might be compromitted uselessly, I +thought it necessary to sound, previously, those who were able to inform +me what would be the success of the application. I was assured, so as to +leave no doubt, that it would not be complied with; that there had +never been an instance of the King's granting such a demand in a foreign +country, and that they would be cautious of setting the precedent: that +in this moment, too, they were embarrassed with the difficult operation +of putting down all establishments of their own, which could possibly be +dispensed with, in order to bring their expenditures down to the level +of their receipts. Upon such information I was satisfied, that it was +most prudent not to deliver the letter, and spare to both parties the +disagreeableness of giving and receiving a denial. The King did give +to two colleges in America copies of the works printing in the public +press. But were this to be obtained for the College of Rhode Island, +it would extend only to a volume or two of Buffon's works, still to +be printed, Manilius's Astronomicon, and one or two other works in the +press, which are of no consequence. I did not think this an object for +the College worth being pressed. I beg the favor of you, gentlemen, +to assure the corporation, that no endeavors of mine should have been +spared, could they have effected their wish: and that they have been +faithfully used in making the preliminary inquiries which are necessary, +and which ended in an assurance, that nothing could be done. These +papers having been transmitted to me through your delegation, will, +I hope, be an apology for my availing myself of the same channel for +communicating the result. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Gentlemen, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXX.--TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN, July 23, 1787 + +TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN. + +Paris, July 23, 1787. + +Sir, + +I had the honor, a few days ago, of putting into the hands of your +Excellency, some observations on the other articles of American produce, +brought into the ports of this country. That of our tobaccos, from the +particular form of their administration here, and their importance to +the King's revenues, has been placed on a separate line, and considered +separately. I will now ask permission to bring that subject under your +consideration. + +The mutual extension of their commerce was among the fairest advantages +to be derived to France and the United States, from the independence of +the latter. An exportation of eighty millions, chiefly in raw materials, +is supposed to constitute the present limits of the commerce of the +United States with the nations of Europe; limits, however, which extend +as their population increases. To draw the best proportion of this into +the ports of France, rather than of any other nation, is believed to +be the wish and interest of both. Of these eighty millions, thirty are +constituted by the single article of tobacco. Could the whole of this +be brought into the ports of France, to satisfy its own demands, and the +residue to be re-vended to other nations, it would be a powerful link +of commercial connection. But we are far from this. Even her own +consumption, supposed to be nine millions, under the administration +of the monopoly to which it is farmed, enters little, as an article of +exchange, into the commerce of the two nations. When this article was +first put into Farm, perhaps it did not injure the commercial interests +of the kingdom; because nothing but British manufactures were then +allowed to be given in return for American tobaccos. The laying the +trade open, then, to all the subjects of France, could not have relieved +her from a payment in money. Circumstances are changed; yet the old +institution remains. The body to which this monopoly was given, was +not mercantile. Their object is to simplify, as much as possible, the +administration of their affairs. They sell for cash; they purchase, +therefore, with cash. Their interest, their principles, and their +practice seem opposed to the general interest of the kingdom, which +would require, that this capital article should be laid open to a free +exchange for the productions of this country. So far does the spirit of +simplifying their operations govern this body, that, relinquishing the +advantages to be derived from a competition of sellers, they contracted +some time ago with a single person (Mr. Morris) for three years' +supplies of American tobacco, to be paid for in cash. They obliged +themselves, too, expressly, to employ no other person to purchase in +America, during that term. In consequence of this, the mercantile houses +of France, concerned in sending her productions to be exchanged for +tobacco, cut off for three years from the hope of selling these tobaccos +in France, were of necessity to abandon that commerce. In consequence of +this, too, a single individual, constituted sole purchaser of so great a +proportion of the tobaccos made, had the price in his own power. A great +reduction in it took place, and that not only on the quantity he bought, +but on the whole quantity made. The loss to the States producing the +article, did not go to cheapen it for their friends here. Their price +was fixed. What was gained on their consumption, was to enrich the +person purchasing it; the rest, the monopolists and merchants of other +countries. The effect of this operation was vitally felt by every farmer +in America, concerned in the culture of this plant. At the end of the +year, he found he had lost a fourth or a third of his revenue; the +State, the same proportion of its subjects of exchange with other +nations: the manufactures of this country, too, were either not to go +there at all, or go through the channel of a new monopoly, which, freed +from the control of competition in prices and qualities, was not likely +to extend their consumption. It became necessary to relieve the two +countries from the fatal effects of this double monopoly. I had the +honor of addressing a letter, on the 15th day of August, 1785, to his +late Excellency, the Count de Vergennes, upon this subject, a copy of +which I do myself the honor herein to enclose. The effectual mode of +relief was to lay the commerce open. But the King's interest was also +to be guarded. A committee was appointed to take this matter into +consideration; and the result was, an order to the Farmers General, that +no such contract should be made again. And to furnish such aliment as +might keep that branch of commerce alive, till the expiration of the +present contract, they were required to put the merchants in general on +a level with Mr. Morris, for the quantity of twelve or fifteen thousand +hogsheads a year. That this relief, too, might not be intercepted from +the merchants of the two suffering nations, by those of a neighboring +one, and that the transportation of so bulky an article might go to +nourish their own shipping, no tobaccos were to be counted of this +purchase, but those brought in French or American vessels. Of this +order, made at Bernis, his Excellency, Count de Vergennes, was pleased +to honor me with a communication, by a letter of the 30th of May, 1786; +desiring that I would publish it as well in America as to the American +merchants in France. I did so; communicating it to Congress at the same +time. This order, thus viewed, with the transactions which produced +it, will be seen to have been necessary; and its punctual and candid +execution has been rendered still more so, by the speculations of the +merchants, entered into on the faith of it. Otherwise it would become +the instrument of their ruin instead of their relief. A twelvemonth +has elapsed some time since; and it is questioned, whether the Farmers +General have purchased, within that time, the quantity prescribed, and +on the conditions prescribed. It would be impossible for the merchants +to prove the negative; it will be easy for the Farmers General to show +the affirmative, if it exists. I hope that a branch of commerce of this +extent, will be thought interesting enough to both nations to render it +the desire of your Excellency to require, as I deem it my duty to ask, +a report of the purchases they have made, according to the conditions +of the order of Bernis, specifying in that report, 1. The quantities +purchased; 2. the prices paid; 3. the dates of the purchase and payment; +4. the flag of the vessel in which imported; 5. her name; 6. her port +of delivery; and 7. the name of the seller. The four first articles make +part of the conditions required by the order of Bernis; the three last +may be necessary for the correction of any errors, which should happen +to arise in the report. + +But the order of Bernis was never considered but as a temporary relief. +The radical evil will still remain. There will be but one purchaser in +the kingdom, and the hazard of his refusal will damp every mercantile +speculation. It is very much to be desired, that before the expiration +of this order, some measure may be devised, which may bring this great +article into free commerce between the two nations. Had this been +practicable at the time it was put into Farm, that mode of collecting +the revenue would probably never have been adopted: now that it has +become practicable, it seems reasonable to discontinue this mode, and to +substitute some of those practised on other imported articles, on which +a revenue is levied, without absolutely suppressing them in commerce. +If the revenue can be secured, the interests of a few individuals will +hardly be permitted to weigh against those of as many millions, equally +subjects of his Majesty, and against those, too, of a nation allied +to him by all the ties of treaty, of interest, and of affection. The +privileges of the most favored nation have been mutually exchanged by +treaty. But the productions of other nations, which do not rival those +of France, are suffered to be bought and sold freely within the kingdom. +By prohibiting all his Majesty's subjects from dealing in tobacco, +except with a single company, one third of the exports of the United +States are rendered uncommerciable here. This production is so +peculiarly theirs, that its shackles affect no other nation. A relief +from these shackles will form a memorable epoch in the commerce of +the two nations. It will establish at once a great basis of exchange +serving, like a point of union, to draw to it other members of our +commerce. Nature, too, has conveniently assorted our wants and our +superfluities to each other. Each nation has exactly to spare the +articles which the other wants. We have a surplus of rice, tobacco, +furs, peltry, potash, lamp-oils, timber, which France wants; she has a +surplus of wines, brandies, esculent oils, fruits, and manufactures of +all kinds, which we want. The governments have nothing to do, but not +to hinder their merchants from making the exchange. The difference of +language, laws, and customs, will be some obstacle for a time; but the +interest of the merchants will surmount them. A more serious obstacle +is our debt to Great Britain. Yet, since the treaty between this country +and that, I should not despair of seeing that debt paid, in part, with +the productions of France, if our produce can obtain here a free course +of exchange for them. The distant prospect is still more promising. A +century's experience has shown, that we double our numbers every twenty +or twenty-five years. No circumstance can be foreseen, at this moment, +which will lessen our rate of multiplication for centuries to come. For +every article of the productions and manufactures of this country, then, +which can be introduced into habit there, the demand will double every +twenty or twenty-five years. And to introduce the habit, we have only to +let the merchants alone. Whether we may descend, by a single step, +from the present state to that of perfect freedom of commerce in this +article; whether any, and what, intermediate operation may be necessary +to prepare the way to this; what cautions must be observed for the +security of his Majesty's revenue, which we do not wish to impair, will +rest with the wisdom of his ministers, whose knowledge of the subject +will enable them to devise the best plans, and whose patriotism and +justice will dispose them to pursue them. To the friendly dispositions +of your Excellency, of which we have had such early and multiplied +proofs, I take the liberty of committing this subject, particularly, +trusting that some method may be devised of reconciling the collection +of his Majesty's revenues with the interests of the two nations; and +have the honor of assuring you of those sincere sentiments of esteem and +respect, with which I am your Excellency's most obedient and most humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXI.--TO MR. SKIPWITH, July 28, 1787 + + +TO MR. SKIPWITH. + +Paris, July 28, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +A long journey has prevented me from writing to any of my friends for +some time past. This was undertaken with a view to benefit a dislocated +and ill-set wrist, by the mineral waters of Aix, in Provence. Finding +this hope vain, I was led from other views to cross the Alps as far as +Turin, Milan, Genoa; to follow the Mediterranean as far as Cette, the +canal of Languedoc, the Garonne, &c, to Paris. A most pleasing journey +it proved; arts and agriculture offering something new at every step, +and often things worth our imitation. But the accounts from our country +give me to believe, that we are not in a condition to hope for the +imitation of any thing good. All my letters are filled with details of +our extravagance. From these accounts, I look back to the time of the +war, as a time of happiness and enjoyment, when amidst the privation +of many things not essential to happiness, we could not run in debt, +because nobody would trust us; when we practised, of necessity, the +maxim of buying nothing but what we had money in our pockets to pay +for; a maxim, which, of all others, lays the broadest foundation for +happiness. I see no remedy to our evils, but an open course of law. +Harsh as it may seem, it would relieve the very patients who dread it, +by stopping the course of their extravagance, before it renders their +affairs entirely desperate. The eternal and bitter strictures on our +conduct, which teem in every London paper, and are copied from them into +others, fill me with anxiety on this subject. The state of things in +Europe is rather threatening at this moment. The innovations of the +Emperor in his dominions, have excited a spirit of resistance. His +subjects in Brabant and Flanders are arming, and he has put forty-five +thousand troops in motion towards that country. I believe they will come +to blows. The parties in Holland have already spilt too much blood to be +easily stopped. If left to themselves, I apprehend the Stadtholderians +will be too strong; and if foreign powers interfere, the weight is still +on their side. England and Prussia will be too much for France. As it is +certain that neither of these powers wish for war, and that England and +France are particularly averse to it, perhaps the matter may end in an +armed mediation. If the mediators should not agree, they will draw their +negotiations into length, and trust to the chapter of accidents for +their final solution. With respect to our country, it stands well with +the present ministry here. The non-payment of our debt is against us. We +are occupied in procuring favorable terms of reception for our produce. + +***** + +Adieu, my Dear Sir, and be assured of the sentiments of sincere esteem +of your affectionate friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXII.--TO J. W. EPPES, July 28,1787 + + +TO J. W. EPPES. + +Paris, July 28,1787. + +Dear Jack, + +The letter which you were so kind as to write to me the 22nd of May, +1786, was not delivered to me till the 3rd of May, 1787, when it found +me in the neighborhood of Marseilles. Before that time you must have +taken your degree, as mentioned in your letter. Those public testimonies +which are earned by merit, and not by solicitation, may always be +accepted without the imputation of vanity. Of this nature is the +degree which your masters proposed to confer on you. I congratulate you +sincerely on it. It will be a pleasing event to yourself; it will be the +same to your parents and friends, and to none more than myself. Go on +deserving applause, and you will be sure to meet with it: and the way to +deserve it, is to be good, and to be industrious. I am sure you will be +good, and hope you will be industrious. As to your future plan, I am +too distant from you, to advise you on sure grounds. In general, I am +of opinion that till the age of about sixteen, we are best employed on +languages; Latin, Greek, French, and Spanish, or such of them as we can. +After this, I think the College of William and Mary the best place to +go through courses of Mathematics, Natural Philosophy in its different +branches, and Law. Of the languages I have mentioned, I think Greek the +least useful. Write me word, from time to time, how you go on. I shall +always be glad to assist you with any books you may have occasion for, +and you may count with certainty on every service I can ever render you, +as well as on the sincere esteem of, Dear Jack, yours affectionately, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXIII.--TO A. DONALD, July 28, 1787 + + +TO A. DONALD. + +Paris, July 28, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I received with infinite satisfaction your letter of the 1st of March: +it was the first information I had of your being in America. There is no +person whom I shall see again with more cordial joy, whenever it shall +be my lot to return to my native country; nor any one whose prosperity, +in the mean time, will be more interesting to me. I find as I grow +older, that I set a higher value on the intimacies of my youth, and am +more afflicted by whatever loses one of them to me. Should it be in my +power to render any service, in your shipment of tobacco to Havre de +Grace, I shall do it with great pleasure. The order of Bernis has, I +believe, been evaded by the Farmers General as much as possible. At +this moment, I receive information from most of the seaports, that they +refuse taking any tobacco, under the pretext, that they have purchased +their whole quantity. From Havre I have heard nothing, and believe you +will stand a better chance there than any where else. Being one of the +ports of manufacture, too, it is entitled to a higher price. I have now +desired that the Farmers may make a distinct return of their purchases, +which are conformable to the order of Bernis. If they have really bought +their quantity, on those terms, we must be satisfied: if they have not, +I shall propose their being obliged to make it up instantly. There is a +considerable accumulation of tobacco in the ports. + +Among many good qualities which my countrymen possess, some of a +different character unhappily mix themselves. The most remarkable are +indolence, extravagance, and infidelity to their engagements. Cure the +two first, and the last would disappear, because it is a consequence +of them, and not proceeding from a want of morals. I know of no remedy +against indolence and extravagance, but a free course of justice. Every +thing else is merely palliative: but unhappily, the evil has gained +too generally the mass of the nation, to leave the course of justice +unobstructed. The maxim of buying nothing without the money in our +pockets to pay for it, would make of our country one of the happiest +upon earth. Experience during the war proved this; as I think every man +will remember, that under all the privations it obliged him to submit +to, during that period, he slept sounder, and awaked happier than he +can do now. Desperate of finding relief from a free course of justice, +I look forward to the abolition of all credit, as the only other +remedy which can take place. I have seen, therefore, with pleasure, the +exaggerations of our want of faith, with which the London papers +teem. It is, indeed, a strong medicine for sensible minds, but it is a +medicine. It will prevent their crediting us abroad, in which case, we +cannot be credited at home. I have been much concerned at the losses +produced by the fire of Richmond. I hope you have escaped them. It will +give me much pleasure to hear from you, as often as you can spare a +moment to write. Be assured that nobody entertains for you sentiments of +more perfect and sincere esteem than, Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXIV.--TO WILLIAM DRAYTON, July 30, 1787 + + +TO WILLIAM DRAYTON. + +Paris, July 30, 1787. + +Sir, + +Having observed that the consumption of rice in this country, and +particularly in this capital, was very great, I thought it my duty +to inform myself from what markets they draw their supplies, in what +proportion from ours, and whether it might not be practicable to +increase that proportion. This city being little concerned in foreign +commerce, it is difficult to obtain information on particular branches +of it in the detail. I addressed myself to the retailers of rice, and +from them received a mixture of truth and error, which I was unable to +sift apart in the first moment. Continuing, however, my inquiries, they +produced at length this result; that the dealers here, were in the habit +of selling two qualities of rice, that of Carolina, with which they were +supplied chiefly from England, and that of Piedmont: that the Carolina +rice was long, slender, white, and transparent, answers well when +prepared with milk, sugar, &ic. but not so well when prepared _au gras_; +that that of Piedmont was shorter, thicker, and less white, but that it +presented its form better when dressed _au gras_, was better tasted, +and therefore preferred by good judges for those purposes: that the +consumption of rice, in this form, was much the most considerable, but +that the superior beauty of the Carolina rice, seducing the eye of those +purchasers who are attached to appearances, the demand for it was +upon the whole as great as for that of Piedmont. They supposed this +difference of quality to proceed from a difference of management; that +the Carolina rice was husked with an instrument which broke it more, +and that less pains were taken to separate the broken from the unbroken +grains; imagining that it was the broken grains which dissolved in oily +preparations: that the Carolina rice costs somewhat less than that +of Piedmont; but that being obliged to sort the whole grains from the +broken, in order to satisfy the taste of their customers, they ask and +receive as much for the first quality of Carolina, when sorted, as for +the rice of Piedmont; but the second and third qualities, obtained by +sorting, are sold much cheaper. The objection to the Carolina rice +then, being, that it crumbles in certain forms of preparation, and +this supposed to be the effect of a less perfect machine for husking, I +flattered myself I should be able to learn what might be the machine of +Piedmont, when I should arrive at Marseilles, to which place I was to +go in the course of a tour through the seaport towns of this country. +At Marseilles, however, they differed as much in the account of the +machine, as at Paris they had differed about other circumstances. Some +said it was husked between mill-stones, others between rubbers of wood +in the form of mill-stones, others of cork. They concurred in one fact, +however, that the machine might be seen by me, immediately on crossing +the Alps. This would be an affair of three weeks. I crossed them, and +went through the rice country from Vercelli to Pavia, about sixty +miles. I found the machine to be absolutely the same with that used +in Carolina, as well as I could recollect a description which Mr. E. +Rutledge had given me of it. It is on the plan of a powder-mill. In some +of them, indeed, they arm each pestle with an iron tooth, consisting of +nine spikes hooped together, which I do not remember in the description +of Mr. Rutledge. I therefore had a tooth made, which I have the honor +of forwarding you with this letter; observing, at the same time, that +as many of their machines are without teeth as with them, and of course, +that the advantage is not very palpable. It seems to follow, then, that +the rice of Lombardy (for though called Piedmont rice, it does not grow +in that country, but in Lombardy) is of a different species from that of +Carolina; different in form, in color, and in quality. We know that in +Asia they have several distinct species of this grain. Monsieur Poivre, +a former Governor of the Isle of France, in travelling through several +countries of Asia, observed with particular attention the objects of +their agriculture, and he tells us, that in Cochin-China they cultivate +six several kinds of rice, which he describes, three of them requiring +water, and three growing on highlands. The rice of Carolina is said to +have come from Madagascar, and De Poivre tells us, it is the white rice +which is cultivated there. This favors the probability of its being of a +different species originally, from that of Piedmont; and time, culture, +and climate may have made it still more different. Under this idea, I +thought it would be well to furnish you with some of the Piedmont rice, +unhusked, but was told it was contrary to the laws to export it in +that form. I took such measures as I could, however, to have a quantity +brought out, and lest these should fail, I brought, myself, a few +pounds. A part of this I have addressed to you by the way of London; +a part comes with this letter; and I shall send another parcel by some +other conveyance, to prevent the danger of miscarriage. Any one of them +arriving safe, may serve to put in seed, should the society think it +an object. This seed, too, coming from Vercelli, where the best rice is +supposed to grow, is more to be depended on, than what may be sent me +hereafter. There is a rice from the Levant, which is considered as of a +quality still different, and some think it superior to that of Piedmont. +The troubles which have existed in that country for several years back, +have intercepted it from the European market, so that it is become +almost unknown. I procured a bag of it, however, at Marseilles, and +another of the best rice of Lombardy, which are on their way to +this place, and when arrived, I will forward you a quantity of each, +sufficient to enable you to judge of their qualities when prepared for +the table. I have also taken measures to have a quantity of it brought +from the Levant, unhusked. If I succeed, it shall be forwarded in +like manner. I should think it certainly advantageous to cultivate, in +Carolina and Georgia, the two qualities demanded at market; because the +progress of culture, with us, may soon get beyond the demand for the +white rice; and because, too, there is often a brisk demand for the one +quality, when the market is glutted with the other. I should hope there +would be no danger of losing the species of white rice, by a confusion +with the other. This would be a real misfortune, as I should not +hesitate to pronounce the white, upon the whole, the most precious of +the two, for us. + +The dry rice of Cochin-China has the reputation of being the whitest to +the eye, best flavored to the taste, and most productive. It seems then +to unite the good qualities of both the others known to us. Could it +supplant them, it would be a great happiness, as it would enable us to +get rid of those ponds of stagnant water, so fatal to human health and +life. But such is the force of habit, and caprice of taste, that +we could not be sure beforehand, it would produce this effect. The +experiment, however, is worth trying, should it only end in producing +a third quality, and increasing the demand. I will endeavor to procure +some to be brought from Cochin-China. The event, however, will be +uncertain and distant. + +I was induced, in the course of my journey through the south of France, +to pay very particular attention to the objects of their culture, +because the resemblance of their climate to that of the southern parts +of the United States authorizes us to presume we may adopt any of their +articles of culture, which we would wish for. We should not wish for +their wines, though they are good and abundant. The culture of the vine +is not desirable in lands capable of producing any thing else. It is a +species of gambling, and of desperate gambling too, wherein, whether you +make much or nothing, you are equally ruined. The middling crop alone is +the saving point, and that the seasons seldom hit. Accordingly, we see +much wretchedness among this class of cultivators. Wine, too, is so +cheap in these countries, that a laborer with us, employed in the +culture of any other article, may exchange it for wine, more and better +than he could raise himself. It is a resource for a country, the whole +of whose good soil is otherwise employed, and which still has some +barren spots, and a surplus of population to employ on them. There the +vine is good, because it is something in the place of nothing. It may +become a resource to us at a still earlier period: when the increase of +population shall increase our productions beyond the demand for them, +both at home and abroad. Instead of going on to make an useless surplus +of them, we may employ our supernumerary hands on the vine. But that +period is not yet arrived. + +The almond tree is also so precarious, that none can depend for +subsistence on its produce, but persons of capital. + +The caper, though a more tender plant, is more certain in its produce, +because a mound of earth of the size of a cucumber hill, thrown over the +plant in the fall, protects it effectually against the cold of winter. +When the danger of frost is over in the spring, they uncover it, and +begin its culture. There is a great deal of this in the neighborhood of +Toulon. The plants are set about eight feet apart, and yield, one year +with another, about two pounds of caper each, worth on the spot six +pence sterling the pound. They require little culture, and this may +be performed either with the plough or hoe. The principal work is the +gathering of the fruit as it forms. Every plant must be picked every +other day, from the last of June till the middle of October. But this is +the work of women and children. This plant does well in any kind of soil +which is dry, or even in walls where there is no soil, and it lasts the +life of a man. Toulon would be the proper port to apply for them. I must +observe, that the preceding details cannot be relied on with the fullest +certainty, because, in the canton where this plant is cultivated, the +inhabitants speak no written language, but a medley, which I could +understand but very imperfectly. + +The fig and mulberry are so well known in America, that nothing need +be said of them. Their culture, too, is by women and children, and +therefore earnestly to be desired in countries where there are +slaves. In these, the women and children are often employed in labors +disproportioned to their sex and age. By presenting to the master +objects of culture, easier and equally beneficial, all temptation to +misemploy them would be removed, and the lot of this tender part of our +species be much softened. By varying too the articles of culture, we +multiply the chances for making something, and disarm the seasons, in a +proportionable degree, of their calamitous effects. + +The olive is a tree the least known in America, and yet the most worthy +of being known. Of all the gifts of heaven to man, it is next to the +most precious, if it be not the most precious. Perhaps it may claim +a preference even to bread; because there is such an infinitude of +vegetables, which it renders a proper and comfortable nourishment. In +passing the Alps at the Col de Tende, where they are mere masses of +rock, wherever there happens to be a little soil, there are a number of +olive trees, and a village supported by them. Take away these trees, and +the same ground, in corn, would not support a single family. A pound of +oil, which can be bought for three or four pence sterling, is equivalent +to many pounds of flesh, by the quantity of vegetables it will prepare, +and render fit and comfortable food. Without this tree, the country of +Provence and territory of Genoa, would not support one half, perhaps +not one third, their present inhabitants. The nature of the soil is of +little consequence, if it be dry. The trees are planted from fifteen to +twenty feet apart, and when tolerably good, will yield fifteen or twenty +pounds of oil yearly, one with another. There are trees which yield much +more. They begin to render good crops at twenty years old, and last till +killed by cold, which happens at some time or other, even in their best +positions in France. But they put out again from their roots. In Italy, +I am told, they have trees of two hundred years old. They afford an +easy but constant employment through the year, and require so little +nourishment, that if the soil be fit for any other production, it may +be cultivated among the olive trees, without injuring them. The northern +limits of this tree, are the mountains of the Cevennes, from about the +meridian of Carcassonne to the Rhone, and from thence, the Alps and +Apennines as far as Genoa, I know, and how much farther I am not +informed. The shelter of these mountains may be considered as equivalent +to a degree and a half of latitude, at least; because westward of the +commencement of the Cevennes, there are no olive trees in 43 1/2 deg. +or even 43 deg. of latitude, whereas, we find them now on the Rhone at +Pierrelatte, in 44 1/2 deg., and formerly they were at Tains, above the +mouth of the Isere, in 45 deg., sheltered by the near approach of the +Cevennes and Alps, which only leave there a passage for the Rhone. +Whether such a shelter exists or not, in the States of South Carolina +and Georgia, I know not. But this we may say, either that it exists, or +that it is not necessary there; because we know that they produce +the orange in open air; and wherever the orange will stand at all, +experience shows that the olive will stand well; being a hardier tree. +Notwithstanding the great quantities of oil made in France, they have +not enough for their own consumption, and therefore import from other +countries. This is an article, the consumption of which will always keep +pace with its production. Raise it; and it begets its own demand. Little +is carried to America, because Europe has it not to spare. We therefore +have not learned the use of it. But cover the southern States with it, +and every man will become a consumer of oil, within whose reach it can +be brought, in point of price. If the memory of those persons is held +in great respect in South Carolina, who introduced there the culture +of rice, a plant which sows life and death with almost equal hand, what +obligations would be due to him who should introduce the olive tree, and +set the example of its culture! Were the owner of slaves to view it +only as the means of bettering their condition, how much would he better +that, by planting one of those trees for every slave he possessed! +Having been myself an eye-witness to the blessings which this tree sheds +on the poor, I never had my wishes so kindled for the introduction of +any article of new culture into our own country. South Carolina and +Georgia appear to me to be the States, wherein its success, in favorable +positions at least, could not be doubted, and I flattered myself, it +would come within the views of the society for agriculture, to begin the +experiments which are to prove its practicability. Carcassonne is the +place from which the plants may be most certainly and cheaply obtained. +They can be sent from thence by water to Bordeaux, where they may be +embarked on vessels bound to Charleston. There is too little intercourse +between Charleston and Marseilles, to propose this as the port of +exportation. I offer my services to the society, for the obtaining and +forwarding any number of plants which may be desired. + +Before I quit the subject of climates, and the plants adapted to them, +I will add, as a matter of curiosity, and of some utility too, that +my journey through the southern parts of France, and the territory of +Genoa, but still more the crossing of the Alps, enabled me to form a +scale of the tenderer plants, and to arrange them according to their +different powers of resisting cold. In passing the Alps at the Col de +Tende, we cross three very high mountains, successively. In ascending, +we lose these plants, one after another, as we rise, and find them again +in the contrary order, as we descend on the other side; and this is +repeated three times. Their order, proceeding from the tenderest to the +hardiest, is as follows. Caper, orange, palm, aloe, olive, pomegranate, +walnut, fig, almond. But this must be understood of the plant only; +for as to the fruit, the order is somewhat different. The caper, for +example, is the tenderest plant; yet, being so easily protected, it is +among the most certain in its fruit. The almond, the hardiest plant, +loses its fruit the oftenest, on account of its forwardness. The palm, +hardier than the caper and orange, never produces perfect fruit here. + +I had the honor of sending you, the last year, some seeds of the sulla +of Malta, or Spanish saintfoin. Lest they should have miscarried, I +now pack with the rice a canister of the same kind of seed, raised +by myself. By Colonel Franks, in the month of February last, I sent a +parcel of acorns of the cork-oak, which I desired him to ask the favor +of the Delegates of South Carolina in Congress, to forward to you. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXV.--TO JAMES MADISON, August 2, 1787 + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, August 2, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +My last was of June the 20th. Yours, received since that date, are of +May the 15th, and June the 6th. In mine, I acknowledged the receipt of +the paccan nuts which came sealed up. I have reason to believe those in +the box have arrived at L'Orient. By the Mary, Captain Howland, lately +sailed from Havre to New York, I shipped three boxes of books, one +marked J. M. for yourself, one marked B. F. for Dr. Franklin, and one +marked W. H. for William Hay in Richmond. I have taken the liberty of +addressing them all to you, as you will see by the enclosed bill of +lading, in hopes you will be so good as to forward the other two. You +will have opportunities of calling on the gentlemen for the freight, +&c. In yours, you will find the books, noted in the account enclosed +herewith. You have now Mably's works complete, except that on Poland, +which I have never been able to get, but shall not cease to search +for. Some other volumes are wanting too, to complete your collection of +Chronologies. The fourth volume of D'Albon was lost by the bookbinder, +and I have not yet been able to get one to replace it. I shall continue +to try. The _Memoires sur les Droits et Impositions en Europe_ (cited by +Smith) was a scarce and excessively dear book. They are now reprinting +it. I think it will be in three or four quartos, of from nine to twelve +livres a volume. When it is finished, I shall take a copy for you. +Amelot's Travels into China, I can learn nothing of. I put among the +books sent you, two somewhat voluminous, and the object of which +will need explanation; these are the _Tableau de Paris_ and _L'Espion +Anglois_. The former is truly a picture of private manners in Paris, but +presented on the dark side, and a little darkened moreover. But there +is so much truth in its groundwork, that it will be well worth your +reading. You will then know Paris (and probably the other large cities +of Europe) as well as if you had been there for years. _L'Espion +Anglois_ is no caricature. It will give you a just idea of the wheels by +which the machine of government is worked here. There are in it, also, +many interesting details of the last war, which, in general, may be +relied on. It may be considered as the small history of great events. +I am in hopes, when you shall have read them, you will not think I have +misspent your money for them. My method for making out this assortment +was, to revise the list of my own purchases since the invoice of 1785, +and to select such as I had found worth your having. Besides this, +I have casually met with, and purchased, some few curious and cheap +things. + +I must trouble you on behalf of a Mr. Thomas Burke, at Loughburke near +Loughrea in Ireland, whose brother, James Burke, is supposed to have +died, in 1785, on his passage from Jamaica, or St. Eustatius, to New +York. His property on board the vessel is understood to have come to the +hands of Alderman Groom at New York. The enclosed copy of a letter +to him will more fully explain it. A particular friend of mine here, +applies to me for information, which I must ask the favor of you to +procure, and forward to me. + +Writing news to others, much pressed in time, and making this letter one +of private business, I did not intend to have said any thing to you on +political subjects. But I must press one subject. Mr. Adams informs me +he has borrowed money in Holland, which, if confirmed by Congress, +will enable them to pay, not only the interest due here to the foreign +officers, but the principal. Let me beseech you to reflect on the +expediency of transferring this debt to Holland. All our other debts +in Europe do not injure our reputation so much as this. These gentlemen +have connections both in and out of office, and these again their +connections, so that our default on this article is further known, +more blamed, and excites worse dispositions against us, than you can +conceive. If you think as I do, pray try to procure an order for paying +off their capital. Mr. Adams adds, that if any certain tax is provided +for the payment of interest, Congress may borrow enough in Holland to +pay off their whole debts in France, both public and private, to the +crown, to the Farmers, and to Beaumarchais. Surely it will be better +to transfer these debts to Holland. So critical is the state of that +country, that I imagine the monied men of it, would be glad to place +their money in foreign countries, and that Mr. Adams could borrow there +for us, without a certain tax for the interest, and saving our faith +too, by previous explanations on that subject. This country is really +supposed on the eve of a * * * *. Such a spirit has risen within a few +weeks, as could not have been believed. They see the great deficit in +their revenues, and the hopes of economy lessen daily. The parliament +refuse to register any act for a new tax, and require an Assembly of +the States. The object of this Assembly is evidently to give law to the +King, to fix a constitution, to limit expenses. These views are said to +gain upon the nation.* + +***** + + [ * The parts of this letter marked by asterisks, are in + cipher, and unintelligible.] + +A final decision of some sort, should be made on Beaumarchais' affairs. + +I am, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem, Dear Sir, your friend +and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXVI.--TO THOMAS BARCLAY, August 3, 1787 + + +TO THOMAS BARCLAY. + +Paris, August 3, 1787, + +Dear Sir, + +I am now to acknowledge the receipt of your several favors of June the +29th, and July the 6th and 8th. + +I am of opinion that the affair of Geraud and Roland in Holland, had +better be committed to Mr. Dumas in Holland, as lawsuits must always +be attended to by some person on the spot. For the same reason, I +think that of La Vayse and Puchilberg should be managed by the agent at +L'Orient, and Gruel's by the agent at Nantes. I shall always be ready +to assist the agents of L'Orient and Nantes, in any way in my power; but +were the details to be left to me, they would languish, necessarily, on +account, of my distance from the place, and perhaps suffer too, for want +of verbal consultations with the lawyers entrusted with them. You are +now with Congress, and can take their orders on the subject. I shall +therefore, do nothing in these matters, in reliance that you will +put them into such channel as they direct, furnishing the necessary +documents and explanations. + +***** + +With respect to French's affair, being perfectly satisfied myself, I +have not ceased, nor shall I 'cease, endeavoring to satisfy others, that +your conduct has been that of an honest and honorable debtor, and +theirs the counterpart of Shylock in the play. I enclose you a letter +containing my testimony on your general conduct, which I have written to +relieve a debt of justice pressing on my mind, well knowing at the same +time, you will not stand in need of it in America. Your conduct is too +well known to Congress, your character to all the world, to need any +testimonials. + +The moment I close my despatches for the packet, which will be the +9th instant, I shall with great pleasure go to pay my respects to +Mrs. Barclay at St. Germain, to satisfy her on the subject of your +transactions, and to assure her that my resources shall be hers, as long +as I have any. A multitude of letters to write, prevents my entering +into the field of public news, further than to observe, that it is +extremely doubtful whether the affairs of Holland will, or will not +produce a war between France, on one side, and England and Prussia, on. +the other. + +I beg you to accept assurances of the sincere esteem and respect, with +which I have the honor to be, Dear Sir, your friend + +and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXVII.--TO E. CARRINGTON, August 4,1787 + + +TO E. CARRINGTON. + +Paris, August 4,1787. + +Dear Sir, + +Since mine of the 16th of January, I have been honored by your favors of +April the 24th and June the 9th. I am happy to find that the States have +come so generally into the scheme of the federal convention, from which, +I am sure, we shall see wise propositions. I confess, I do not go as +far in the reforms thought necessary, as some of my correspondents in +America; but if the convention should adopt such propositions, I shall +suppose them necessary. My general plan would be, to make the States +one as to every thing connected with foreign nations, and several as +to every thing purely domestic. But with all the imperfections of our +present government, it is, without comparison, the best existing, or +that ever did exist. Its greatest defect is the imperfect manner in +which matters of commerce have been provided for. It has been so often +said, as to be generally believed, that Congress have no power by the +Confederation to enforce any thing; for example, contributions of money. +It was not necessary to give them that power expressly; they have it +by the law of nature. When two parties make a compact, there results to +each a power of compelling the other to execute it. Compulsion was never +so easy as in our case, where a single frigate would soon levy on the +commerce of any State the deficiency of its contributions; nor more +safe than in the hands of Congress, which has always shown that it +would wait, as it ought to do, to the last extremities, before it +would execute any of its powers which are disagreeable. I think it +very material, to separate, in the hands of Congress, the executive and +legislative powers, as the judiciary already are, in some degree. This, +I hope, will be done. The want of it has been the source of more +evil, than we have experienced from any other cause. Nothing is so +embarrassing nor so mischievous, in a great assembly, as the details +of execution. The smallest trifle of that kind, occupies as long as the +most important act of legislation, and takes place of every thing else. +Let any man recollect, or look over, the files of Congress: he will +observe the most important propositions hanging over, from week to week, +and month to month, till the occasions have passed them, and the things +never done. I have ever viewed the executive details as the greatest +cause of evil to us, because they in fact place us as if we had no +federal head, by diverting the attention of that head from great to +small objects; and should this division of power not be recommended by +the convention, it is my opinion, Congress should make it, itself, by +establishing an executive committee. + +***** + +I have the honor to be, with sincere esteem and respect, Dear Sir, your +most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson, + + + + +LETTER LXXVIII.--TO DR. CURRIE, August 4, 1787 + + +TO DR. CURRIE. + +Paris, August 4, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I am favored with your letter of May the 2nd, and most cordially +sympathize in your late immense losses. It is a situation in which a man +needs the aid of all his wisdom and philosophy. But as it is better +to turn from the contemplation of our misfortunes, to the resources +we possess for extricating ourselves, you will, of course, have found +solace in your vigor of mind, health of body, talents, habits of +business, in the consideration that you have time yet to retrieve every +thing, and a knowledge that the very activity necessary for this, is a +state of greater happiness than the unoccupied one, to which you had a +thought of retiring. I wish the bulk of my extravagant countrymen had as +good prospects and resources as you. But with many of them, a feebleness +of mind makes them afraid to probe the true state of their affairs, and +procrastinate the reformation which alone can save something, to those +who may yet be saved. How happy a people were we during the war, from +the single circumstance that we could not run in debt! This counteracted +all the inconveniences we felt, as the present facility of ruining +ourselves overweighs all the blessings of peace. I know no condition +happier than that of a Virginia farmer might be, conducting himself as +he did during the war. His estate supplies a good table, clothes itself +and his family with their ordinary apparel, furnishes a small surplus to +buy salt, sugar, coffee, and a little finery for his wife and daughters, +enables him to receive and to visit his friends, and furnishes him +pleasing and healthy occupation. To secure all this, he needs but one +act of self-denial, to put off buying any thing till he has the money to +pay for it. Mr. Ammonett did not come. He wrote to me, however, and I am +making inquiry for the town and family he indicated. As yet, neither +can be heard of, and were they to be found, the length of time would +probably bar all claims against them. I have seen no object present +so many desperate faces. However, if inquiry can lighten our way, that +shall not be wanting, and I will write to him as soon as we discover +any thing, or despair of discovering. Littlepage has succeeded well in +Poland. He has some office, it is said, worth five hundred guineas a +year. The box of seeds you were so kind as to forward me, came safe to +hand. The arrival of my daughter, in good health, has been a source +of immense comfort to me. The injury of which you had heard, was a +dislocated wrist, and though it happened eleven months ago, was a simple +dislocation, and immediately aided by the best surgeon in Paris, it is +neither well, nor ever will be, so as to render me much service. The +fingers remain swelled and crooked, the hand withered, and the joint +having a very confined motion. You ask me when I shall return. My +commission expires next spring, and if not renewed, I shall return then. +If renewed, I shall stay somewhat longer: how much, will not depend on +me altogether. So far as it does, I cannot fix the epoch of my return, +though I always flatter myself it is not very distant. My habits are +formed to those of my own country. I am past the time of changing them, +and am, therefore, less happy any where else than there. + +I shall always be happy to hear from you, being with very sincere +esteem, Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXIX.--TO MR. HAWKINS, August 4, 1787 + + +TO MR. HAWKINS. + +Paris, August 4, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I have to acknowledge the receipt of your favors of March the 8th and +June the 9th, and to give you many thanks for the trouble you have taken +with the _dionaea muscipula_. I have not yet heard any thing of them, +which makes me fear they have perished by the way. I believe the most +effectual means of conveying them hither will be by the seed. I must add +my thanks too for the vocabularies. This is an object I mean to pursue, +as I am persuaded that the only method of investigating the filiation of +the Indian nations, is by that of their languages. + +I look up with you to the federal convention, for an amendment of our +federal affairs; yet I do not view them in so disadvantageous a light +at present, as some do. And above all things, I am astonished at some +people's considering a kingly government as a refuge. Advise such to +read the fable of the frogs, who solicited Jupiter for a king. If that +does not put them to rights, send them to Europe, to see something of +the trappings of monarchy, and I will undertake, that every man shall go +back thoroughly cured. If all the evils which can arise among us, from +the republican form of our government, from this day to the day of +judgment, could be put into a scale against what this country suffers +from its monarchical form, in a week, or England, in a month, the latter +would preponderate. Consider the contents of the Red Book in England, or +the Almanac Royale of France, and say what a people gain by monarchy. +No race of kings has ever presented above one man of common, sense, in +twenty generations. The best they can do is, to leave things to their +ministers; and what are their ministers, but a committee, badly chosen? +If the king ever meddles, it is to do harm. Adieu, my Dear Sir, and be +assured of the esteem of your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXX.--TO COLONEL MONROE, August 5, 1787 + + +TO COLONEL MONROE. + +Paris, August 5, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +A journey of between three and four months, into the southern parts of +France and northern of Italy, has prevented my writing to you. In +the mean time, you have changed your ground, and engaged in different +occupations, so that I know not whether the news of this side the water +will even amuse you. However, it is all I have for you. The storm which +seemed to be raised suddenly in Brabant, will probably blow over. +The Emperor, on his return to Vienna, pretended to revoke all the +concessions which had been made by his Governors General, to his +Brabantine subjects; but he, at the same time, called for deputies from +among them to consult with. He will use their agency to draw himself out +of the scrape, and all there I think will be quieted. Hostilities go on +occasionally in Holland. France espouses the cause of the Patriots, as +you know, and England and Prussia that of the Stadtholder. France and +England are both unwilling to bring on a war, but a hasty move of the +King of Prussia will perplex them. He has thought the stopping his +sister sufficient cause for sacrificing a hundred or two thousand of his +subjects, and as many Hollanders and French. He has therefore ordered +twenty thousand men to march, without consulting England, or even his +own ministers. He may thus drag England into a war, and of course this +country, against their will. But it is certain they will do every thing +they can, to prevent it; and that in this, at least, they agree. + +Though such a war might be gainful to us, yet it is much to be +deprecated by us at this time. In all probability, France would be +unequal to such a war by sea and by land, and it is not our interest or +even safe for us, that she should be weakened. The great improvements +in their constitution, effected by the _Assemblee des Notables_, you +are apprized of. That of partitioning the country into a number +of subordinate governments, under the administration of Provincial +Assemblies, chosen by the people, is a capital one. But to the delirium +of joy which these improvements gave the nation, a strange reverse of +temper has suddenly succeeded. The deficiencies of their revenue +were exposed, and they were frightful. Yet there was an appearance +of intention to economize and reduce the expenses of government. But +expenses are still very, inconsiderately incurred, and all reformation +in that point despaired of. The public credit is affected; and such a +spirit of discontent has arisen, as has never been seen. The parliament +refused to register the edict for a stamp tax, or any other tax, and +call for the States General, who alone, they say, can impose a new +tax. They speak with a boldness unexampled. The King has called them to +Versailles to-morrow, where he will hold a _lit de justice_ and compel +them to register the tax. How the chapter will finish, we must wait to +see. By a vessel lately sailed from Havre to New York, I have sent +you some more _livraisons_ of the _Encyclopedie_, down to the 22nd +inclusive. They were in a box with Dr. Currie's, and addressed to Mr. +Madison, who will forward them to Richmond. I have heard you are in the +Assembly. I will beg the favor of you, therefore, to give me, at the +close of the session, a history of the most remarkable acts passed, +the parties and views of the House, &c. This, with the small news of +my country, crops and prices, furnish you abundant matter to treat +me, while I have nothing to give you in return, but the history of +the follies of nations in their dotage. Present me in respectful and +friendly terms to Mrs. Monroe, and be assured of the sincere sentiments +of esteem and attachment, with which I am Dear Sir, your friend and +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXXI.--TO JOHN JAY, August 6,1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, August 6,1787. + +The last letter I had the honor of addressing you was dated June +the 21st. I have now that of enclosing you a letter from the Swedish +ambassador, praying that inquiry may be made for a vessel of his nation, +piratically carried off, and measures taken relative to the vessel, +cargo, and crew. Also a letter from William Russell and others, citizens +of America, concerned in trade to the island of Guadaloupe, addressed +to the Marechal de Castries, and complaining of the shutting to them the +port of Point a Pitre, and receiving them only at Basse-terre. This was +enclosed to me by the subscribers, to be delivered to the Marechal de +Castries. But the present is not the moment to move in that business: +and moreover, I suppose, that whenever parties are within the reach of +Congress, they should apply to them, and my instructions come through +that channel. Matters, arising within the kingdom of France, to which +my commission is limited, and not admitting time to take the orders +of Congress, I suppose I may move in originally. I also enclose you +the copy of a letter from Mr. Barclay, closing his proceedings in our +affairs with Morocco. Before this reaches you, he will have had the +honor of presenting himself to you in person. After his departure, the +parliament of Bordeaux decided that he was liable to arrest. This was +done on a letter from the minister, informing them that Mr. Barclay +was invested with no character which privileged him from arrest. His +constant character of consul was no protection, and they did not explain +whether his character to Morocco was not originally diplomatic, or +was expired. Mr. Barclay's proceedings under this commission being now +closed, it would be incumbent on me to declare with respect to them, as +well as his consular transactions, my opinion of the judgment, zeal, and +disinterestedness with which he has conducted himself; were it not that +Congress has been so possessed of those transactions from time to time, +as to judge for themselves. I cannot but be uneasy, lest my delay of +entering on the subject of the consular convention, may be disapproved. +My hope was and is, that more practicable terms might be obtained: in +this hope, I do nothing till further orders, observing by an extract +from the journals you were pleased to send me, that Congress have +referred the matter to your consideration, and conscious that we are not +suffering in the mean time, as we have not a single consul in France, +since the departure of Mr. Barclay. I mentioned to you in my last, the +revival of the hopes of the Chevalier de la Luzerne. I thought it +my duty to remind the Count de Montmorin, the other day, of the long +absence of their minister from Congress. He told me, the Chevalier de +la Luzerne would not be sent back, but that we might rely, that in the +month of October a person would be sent, with whom we should be content. +He did not name the person, though there is no doubt that it is the +Count de Mourtier. It is an appointment, which, according to the opinion +I have formed of him, bids as fair to give content, as any one which +could be made. + +I also mentioned in my last letter, that I had proposed the reducing the +substance of Monsieur de Calonne's letter into the form of an _Arret_, +with some alterations, which, on consultation with the merchants at the +different ports I visited, I had found to be necessary. I received soon +after a letter from the Comptroller General, informing me, that the +letter of Monsieur de Calonne was in a course of execution. Of this, I +enclose you a copy. I was, in that moment, enclosing to him my general +observations on that letter, a copy of which is also enclosed. In these +I stated all the alterations I wished to have made. It became expedient +soon after, to bring on the article of tobacco; first, to know whether +the Farmers had executed the order of Bernis, and also to prepare some +arrangements to succeed the expiration of this order. So that I am +now pursuing the whole subject of our commerce, 1. to have necessary +amendments made in Monsieur de Calonne's letter; 2. to put it into a +more stable form; 3. to have full execution of the order of Bernis; 4. +to provide arrangements for the article of tobacco, after that order +shall be expired. By the copy of my letter on the two last points, +you will perceive that I again press the abolition of the Farm of this +article. The conferences on that subject give no hope of effecting that. +Some poor palliative is probably all we shall obtain. The Marquis de la +Fayette goes hand in hand with me in all these transactions, and is +an invaluable auxiliary to me. I hope it will not be imputed either +to partiality or affectation, my naming this gentleman so often in my +despatches. Were I not to do it, it would be a suppression of truth, and +the taking to myself the whole merit where he has the greatest share. + +The Emperor, on his return to Vienna, disavowed the concessions of +his Governors General to his subjects of Brabant. He at the same time +proposed their sending deputies to him, to consult on their affairs. +They refused in the first moment; but afterwards nominated deputies; +without giving them any power, however, to concede any thing. In the +mean time, they are arming and training themselves. Probably the Emperor +will avail himself of the aid of these deputies, to tread back his +steps. He will be the more prompt to do this, that he may be in +readiness to act freely, if he finds occasion, in the new scenes +preparing in Holland. What these will be, cannot be foreseen. You +well know, that the original party-divisions of that country were into +Stadtholderians, Aristocrats, and Democrats. There was a subdivision +of the Aristocrats, into violent and moderate, which was important. +The violent Aristocrats would have wished to preserve all the powers +of government in the hands of the Regents, and that these should remain +self-elective: but choosing to receive a modification of these powers +from the Stadtholder, rather than from the people, they threw themselves +into his scale. The moderate Aristocrats would have consented to a +temperate mixture of democracy, and particularly, that the Regents +should be elected by the people. They were the declared enemies of the +Stadtholder, and acted in concert with the Democrats, forming with them +what was called the Patriots. It is the opinion of dispassionate +people on the spot, that their views might have been effected. But the +democratic party aimed at more. They talked of establishing tribunes of +the people, of annual accounts, of depriving the magistrates at the will +of the people, &c.; of enforcing all this with the arms in the hands of +the _corps francs_; and in some places, as at Heusden, Sprang, &c. +began the execution of these projects. The moderate Aristocrats found it +difficult to strain their principles to this pitch. A schism took place +between them and the Democrats, and the former have for some time been +dropping off from the latter into the scale of the Stadtholder. This +is the fatal coalition which governs without obstacle in Zealand, +Friesland, and Guelderland, which constitutes the States of Utrecht, at +Amersfort, and, with their aid, the plurality in the States General. +The States of Holland, Groningen, and Overyssel, vote as yet in the +opposition. But the coalition gains ground in the States of Holland, and +has been prevalent in the Council of Amsterdam. If its progress be not +stopped by a little moderation in the Democrats, it will turn the scale +decidedly in favor of the Stadtholder, in the event of their being left +to themselves without foreign interference. If foreign powers interfere, +their prospect does not brighten. I see no sure friends to the Patriots +but France, while Prussia and England are their assured enemies. Nor is +it probable, that characters so greedy, so enterprising, as the Emperor +and Empress, will be idle during such a struggle. Their views have long +shown which side they would take. That France has engaged to interfere, +and to support the Patriots, is beyond doubt. This engagement was +entered into during the life of the late King of Prussia, whose eye was +principally directed on the Emperor, and whose dispositions towards the +Prince of Orange would have permitted him to be clipped a little close. +But the present King comes in with warmer dispositions towards the +Princess his sister. He has shown decidedly, that he will support her, +even to the destruction of the balance of Europe, and the disturbance +of its peace. The King of England has equally decided to support that +house, at the risk of plunging his nation into another war. He supplies +the Prince with money at this moment. A particular remittance of one +hundred and twenty thousand guineas is known of. But his ministry is +divided. Pitt is against the King's opinion, the Duke of Richmond and +the rest of the ministers for it. Or, at least, such is the belief here. +Mr. Adams will have informed you more certainly. This division in the +English ministry, with the ill condition of their finances for war, +produces a disposition even in the King, to try first every pacific +measure: and that country and this were laboring jointly to stop +the course of hostilities in Holland, to endeavor to effect an +accommodation, and were scarcely executing at all the armaments ordered +in their ports; when all of a sudden an inflammatory letter, written +by the Princess of Orange to the King of Prussia, induces him, without +consulting England, without consulting even his own Council, to issue +orders by himself to his generals, to march twenty thousand men to +revenge the insult supposed to be offered to his sister. With a pride +and egotism planted in the heart of every King, he considers her being +stopped in the road, as a sufficient cause to sacrifice a hundred or two +thousand of his own subjects, and as many of his enemies, and to spread +fire, sword, and desolation over the half of Europe. This hasty measure +has embarrassed England, undesirous of war, if it can be avoided, +yet unwilling to separate from the power who is to render its success +probable. Still you may be assured, that that court is going on in +concurrence with this, to prevent extremities, if possible; always +understood, that if the war cannot be prevented, they will enter into +it as parties, and in opposition to one another. This event is, in my +opinion, to be deprecated by the friends of France. She never was equal +to such a war by land, and such a one by sea; and less so now, than in +any moment of the present reign. You remember that the nation was in a +delirium of joy on the convocation of the _Notables_, and on the various +reformations agreed on between them and the government. The picture of +the distress of their finances was indeed frightful, but the intentions +to reduce them to order seemed serious. The constitutional reformations +have gone on well, but those of expenses make little progress. Some +of the most obviously useless have indeed been lopped off, but the +remainder is a heavy mass, difficult to be reduced. Despair has seized +every mind, and they have passed from an extreme of joy to one of +discontent. The parliament, therefore, oppose the registering any new +tax, and insist on an Assembly of the States General. The object of +this is to limit expenses, and dictate a constitution. The edict for +the stamp tax has been the subject of reiterated orders and refusals to +register. At length, the King has summoned the parliament to Versailles +to hold a bed of justice, in which he will order them, in person, +to register the edict. At the moment of my writing, they are gone to +Versailles for this purpose. There will yet remain to them, to protest +against the register, as forced, and to issue orders against its +execution on pain of death. But as the King would have no peaceable mode +of opposition left, it remains to be seen, whether they will push the +matter to this extremity. It is evident, I think, that the spirit of +this country is advancing towards a revolution in their constitution. +There are not wanting persons at the helm, friends to the progress +of this spirit. The Provincial Assemblies will be the most probable +instrument of effecting it. + +Since writing thus far, I have received an intimation, that it will be +agreeable not to press our commercial regulations at this moment, the +ministry being too much occupied with the difficulties surrounding them, +to spare a moment on any subject which will admit of delay. Our business +must, therefore, be suspended for a while. To press it out of season, +would be to defeat, it. It would be felt as a vital benefit here, could +we relieve their finances, by paying what we owe. Congress will judge +by Mr. Adams's letters, how far the transferring all our debts in this +country to Holland is practicable. On the replenishing their treasury +with our principal and interest, I should not be afraid to ask +concessions in favor of our West India trade. It would produce a great +change of opinion as to us and our affairs. In the _Assemblee des +Notables_, hard things were said of us. They were induced, however, +in committing us to writing, to smother their ideas a little. In their +votes, now gone to be printed, our debt is described in these words. +The twenty-first article of the account, formed of the interest of the +claims of his Majesty on the United States of America, cannot be drawn +out for the present, except as a document. The recovery of these claims, +as well principal as perhaps even interest, although they appear to +rest on the most solid security, may, nevertheless, be long delayed, and +should not, consequently, be taken into account in estimating the annual +revenue. This article amounts to one million and six hundred thousand +livres.' Above all things, it is desirable to hush the foreign officers +by payment. Their wants, the nature of their services, their access +to high characters, and connections with them, bespeak the reasons for +this. I hear also that Mr. Beaumarchais means to make himself heard, +if a memorial which he sends by an agent in the present packet is not +attended to, as he thinks it ought to be. He called on me with it, +and desired me to recommend his case to a decision, and to note in my +despatch, that it was the first time he had spoken to me on the +subject. This is true, it being the first time I ever saw him; but my +recommendations would be as displaced as unnecessary. I assured him +Congress would do in that business what justice should require, and +their means enable them. The information sent me by Mr. Montgomery +from Alicant, of the death of the Dey of Algiers, was not true. I had +expressed my doubt of it in my last, when I communicated it. I send +herewith the newspapers to this date, and a remonstrance of the +parliament, to show you in what language the King can be addressed at +this day. I have received no journal of Congress since the beginning of +November last, and will thank you for them, if printed. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + +P. S. August 7. The parliament were received yesterday very harshly +by the King. He obliged them to register the two edicts for the _impot +territorial_ and stamp tax. When speaking in my letter of the reiterated +orders and refusals to register, which passed between the King and +parliament, I omitted to insert the King's answer to a deputation of +parliament, which attended him at Versailles. It may serve to show +the spirit which exists between them. It was in these words, and these +only:--'_Je vous ferai savoir mes intentions. Allez-vous-en. Qu'on ferme +la porte._' + + + + +LETTER LXXXII.--TO JOHN CHURCHMAN, August 8, 1787 + + +TO JOHN CHURCHMAN. + +Paris, August 8, 1787. + +Sir, + +I have duly received your favor of June the 6th, and immediately +communicated its contents to a member of the Academy. He told me that +they had received the other copy of your memorial, which you mention to +have sent through another channel; that your ideas were not conveyed so +explicitly, as to enable them to decide finally on their merit, but that +they had made an entry in their journals, to preserve to you the claim +of the original idea. As far as we can conjecture it here, we imagine +you make a table of variations of the needle, for all the different +meridians whatever. To apply this table to use in the voyage between +America and Europe, suppose the variation to increase a degree in every +one hundred and sixty miles. Two difficulties occur; 1. a ready and +accurate method of finding the variation of the place; 2. an instrument +so perfect, as that (though the degree on it shall represent one hundred +and sixty miles) it shall give the parts of the degree so minutely, as +to answer the purpose of the navigator. The variation of the needle +at Paris, actually, is 21 deg. west. I make no question you have provided +against the doubts entertained here, and I shall be happy that our +country may have the honor of furnishing the old world, what it has so +long sought in vain. + +I am with much respect, Sir, your most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXXIII.--TO MONSIEUR L HOMMANDE, August 9, 1787 + + +TO MONSIEUR L HOMMANDE. + +Paris, August 9, 1787. + +Sir, + +At the time you honored me with your letter of May the 31st, I was not +returned from a journey I had taken into Italy. This circumstance, +with the mass of business which had accumulated during my absence, must +apologize for the delay of my answer. Every discovery, which multiplies +the subsistence of man, must be a matter of joy to every friend to +humanity. As such, I learn with great satisfaction, that you have +found the means of preserving flour more perfectly than has been done +hitherto. But I am not authorized to avail my country of it, by making +any offer for its communication. Their policy is to leave their citizens +free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits. Though the +interposition of government in matters of invention has its use, yet it +is in practice so inseparable from abuse, that they think it better +not to meddle with it. We are only to hope, therefore, that those +governments, who are in the habit of directing all the actions of their +subjects by particular law, may be so far sensible of the duty they +are under of cultivating useful discoveries, as to reward you amply for +yours, which is among the most interesting to humanity. + +I have the honor to be, with great consideration and respect, Sir, your +most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXXIV.--TO PETER CARR, August 10, 1787 + + +TO PETER CARR. + +Paris, August 10, 1787. + +Dear Peter, + +I have received your two letters of December the 30th and April the +18th, and am very happy to find by them, as well as by letters from Mr. +Wythe, that you have been so fortunate as to attract his notice and +good will: I am sure you will find this to have been one of the most +fortunate events of your life, as I have ever been sensible it was of +mine. I enclose you a sketch of the sciences to which I would wish you +to apply, in such order as Mr. Wythe shall advise: I mention also the +books in them worth your reading, which submit to his correction. Many +of these are among your father's books, which you should have brought +to you. As I do not recollect those of them not in his library, you must +write to me for them, making out a catalogue of such as you think you +shall have occasion for in eighteen months from the date of your letter, +and consulting Mr. Wythe on the subject. To this sketch I will add a few +particular observations. + +1. Italian. I fear the learning this language will confound your French +and Spanish. Being all of them degenerated dialects of the Latin, they +are apt to mix in conversation. I have never seen a person speaking the +three languages, who did not mix them. It is a delightful language, but +late events having rendered the Spanish more useful, lay it aside to +prosecute that. + +2. Spanish. Bestow great attention on this, and endeavor to acquire an +accurate knowledge of it. Our future connections with Spain and Spanish +America, will render that language a valuable acquisition. The ancient +history of a great part of America, too, is written in that language. I +send you a dictionary. + +3. Moral Philosophy. I think it lost time to attend lectures on this +branch. He who made us would have been a pitiful bungler, if he had +made the rules of our moral conduct a matter of science. For one man +of science, there are thousands who are not. What would have become of +them? Man was destined for society. His morality, therefore, was to be +formed to this object. He was endowed with a sense of right and wrong, +merely relative to this. This sense is as much a part of his nature, +as the sense of hearing, seeing, feeling; it is the true foundation of +morality, and not the [Greek: no alon] + +[Illustration: Greek phrase page216] + +truth, &c, as fanciful writers have imagined. The moral sense, or +conscience, is as much a part of man, as his leg or arm. It is given to +all human beings, in a stronger or weaker degree, as force of members +is given them in a greater or less degree. It may be strengthened +by exercise, as may any particular limb of the body. This sense is +submitted, indeed, in some degree, to the guidance of reason; but it is +a small stock which is required for this: even a less one than what we +call common sense. State a moral case to a ploughman and a professor. +The former will decide it as well, and often better than the latter, +because he has not been led astray by artificial rules. In this branch, +therefore, read good books, because they will encourage, as well as +direct your feelings. The writings of Sterne, particularly, form the +best course of morality that ever was written. Besides these, read the +books mentioned in the enclosed paper: and, above all things, lose no +occasion of exercising your dispositions to be grateful, to be generous, +to be charitable, to be humane, to be true, just, firm, orderly, +courageous, &c. Consider every act of this kind, as an exercise which +will strengthen your moral faculties, and increase your worth. + +4. Religion, Your reason is now mature enough to examine this object. +In the first place, divest yourself of all bias in favor of novelty and +singularity of opinion. Indulge them in any other subject rather than +that of religion. It is too important, and the consequences of error may +be too serious. On the other hand, shake off all the fears and servile +prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason +firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. +Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be +one, he must more approve the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded +fear. You will naturally examine, first, the religion of your own +country. Read the Bible, then, as you would read Livy or Tacitus. The +facts which are within the ordinary course of nature, you will believe +on the authority of the writer, as you do those of the same kind in Livy +and Tacitus. The testimony of the writer weighs in their favor, in one +scale, and their not being against the laws of nature, does not weigh +against them. But those facts in the Bible, which contradict the laws of +nature, must be examined with more care, and under a variety of faces. +Here you must recur to the pretensions of the writer to inspiration from +God. Examine upon what evidence his pretensions are founded, and +whether that evidence is so strong, as that its falsehood would be more +improbable than a change of the laws of nature, in the case he relates. +For example, in the book of Joshua we are told the sun stood still +several hours. Were we to read that fact in Livy or Tacitus, we should +class it with their showers of blood, speaking of statues, beasts, &c. +But it is said, that the writer of that book was inspired. Examine, +therefore, candidly, what evidence there is of his having been inspired. +The pretension is entitled to your inquiry, because millions believe it. +On the other hand, you are astronomer enough to know, how contrary it +is to the law of nature, that a body revolving on its axis, as the earth +does, should have stopped, should not, by that sudden stoppage, have +prostrated animals, trees, buildings, and should after a certain +time have resumed its revolution, and that without a second general +prostration. Is this arrest of the earth's motion, or the evidence which +affirms it, most within the law of probabilities? You will next read the +New Testament. It is the history of a personage called Jesus. Keep in +your eye the opposite pretensions, 1. of those who say he was begotten +by God, born of a virgin, suspended, and reversed the laws of nature at +will, and ascended bodily into heaven: and, 2. of those who say he was +a man, of illegitimate birth, of a benevolent heart, enthusiastic mind, +who set out without pretensions to divinity, ended in believing them, +and was punished capitally for sedition, by being gibbeted, according +to the Roman law, which punished the first commission of that offence by +whipping, and the second by exile or death _in furca_. See this law in +the Digest, Lib. 48, tit. 19, Sec. 28. 3. and Lipsius, Lib. 2. _De Cruce_, +cap. 2. These questions are examined in the books I have mentioned, +under the head of Religion, and several others. They will assist you in +your inquiries; but keep your reason firmly on the watch in reading +them all. Do not be frightened from this inquiry by any fear of its +consequences. If it ends in a belief that there is no God, you will find +incitements to virtue in the comfort and pleasantness you feel in its +exercise, and the love of others which it will procure you. If you find +reason to believe there is a God, a consciousness that you are acting +under his eye, and that he approves you, will be a vast additional +incitement: if that there be a future state, the hope of a happy +existence in that, increases the appetite to deserve it: if that Jesus +was also a God, you will be comforted by a belief of his aid and love. +In fine, I repeat, you must lay aside all prejudice on both sides, +and neither believe nor reject any thing, because any other person, or +description of persons, have rejected or believed it. Your own reason is +the only oracle given you by Heaven, and you are answerable not for the +rightness, but uprightness of the decision. I forgot to observe, when +speaking of the New Testament, that you should read all the histories +of Christ, as well of those whom a council of ecclesiastics have decided +for us to be Pseudo-evangelists, as those they named Evangelists. +Because these Pseudo-evangelists pretended to inspiration as much as the +others, and you are to judge their pretensions by your own reason, and +not by the reason of those ecclesiastics. Most of these are lost. There +are some, however, still extant, collected by Fabricius, which I will +endeavor to get and send you. + +5. Travelling. This makes men wiser, but less happy. When men of sober +age travel, they gather knowledge, which they may apply usefully for +their country; but they are subject ever after to recollections mixed +with regret; their affections are weakened by being extended over more +objects; and they learn new habits, which cannot be gratified when +they return home. Young men who travel are exposed to all these +inconveniences in a higher degree, to others still more serious, and do +not acquire that wisdom for which a previous foundation is requisite, by +repeated and just observations at home. The glare of pomp and pleasure +is analogous to the motion of the blood; it absorbs all their affection +and attention; they are torn from it as from the only good in this +world, and return to their home as to a place of exile and condemnation. +Their eyes are for ever turned back to the object they have lost, and +its recollection poisons the residue of their lives. Their first and +most delicate passions are hackneyed on unworthy objects here, and they +carry home the dregs, insufficient to make themselves or any body else +happy. Add to this, that a habit of idleness, an inability to apply +themselves to business is acquired, and renders them useless to +themselves and their country. These observations are founded in +experience. There is no place where your pursuit of knowledge will be +so little obstructed by foreign objects, as in your own country, nor any +wherein the virtues of the heart will be less exposed to be weakened. Be +good, be learned, and be industrious, and you will not want the aid +of travelling, to render you precious to your country, dear to your +friends, happy within yourself. I repeat my advice, to take a great deal +of exercise, and on foot. Health is the first requisite after morality. +Write to me often, and be assured of the interest I take in your +success, as well as the warmth of those sentiments of attachment with +which I am, Dear Peter, your affectionate friend, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXXV.--TO DR. GILMER, August 11, 1787 + + +TO DR. GILMER. + +Paris, August 11, 1787. + +Dear Doctor, + +Your letter of January the 9th, 1787, came safely to hand in the month +of June last. Unluckily you forgot to sign it, and your hand-writing is +so Protean, that one cannot be sure it is yours. To increase the causes +of incertitude, it was dated Pen-Park, a name which I only know, as the +seat of John Harmer. The hand-writing, too, being somewhat in his style, +made me ascribe it hastily to him, indorse it with his name, and let +it lie in my bundle to be answered at leisure. That moment of leisure +arriving, I sat down to answer it to John Harmer, and now, for the +first time, discover marks of its being yours, and particularly those +expressions of friendship to myself and family, which you have ever been +so good as to entertain, and which are to me among the most precious +possessions. I wish my sense of this, and my desires of seeing you rich +and happy, may not prevent my seeing any difficulty in the case you +state of George Harmer's wills; which, as you state them, are thus. + +1. A will, dated December the 26th, 1779, written in his own hand, and +devising to his brother the estates he had received from him. + +2. Another will, dated June the 25th, 1782, written also in his own +hand, devising his estate to trustees, to be conveyed to such of his +relations, I. H., I. L., or H. L., as should become capable of acquiring +property, or, on failure of that, to be sold, and the money remitted +them. + +3. A third will, dated September the 12th, 1786, devising all his estate +at Marrowbone, and his tracts at Horse-pasture and Poison-field to you; +which will is admitted to record, and of course has been duly executed. + +You say the learned are divided on these wills. Yet I see no cause of +division, as it requires little learning to decide, that 'the first +deed and last will must always prevail.' I am afraid, therefore, the +difficulty may arise on the want of words of inheritance in the devise +to you: for you state it as a devise to 'George Gilmer'(without adding +'and to his heirs') of 'all the _estate_ called Marrowbone,' 'the +_tract_ called Horse-pasture,' and 'the tract called Poison-field.' If +the question is on this point, and you have copied the words of the will +exactly, I suppose you take an estate in fee simple in Marrowbone, and +for life only in Horse-pasture and Poison-field; the want of words of +inheritance in the two last cases, being supplied as to the first, by +the word 'estate,' which has been repeatedly decided to be descriptive +of the quantum of interest devised, as well as of its locality. I am in +hopes, however, you have not copied the words exactly, that there are +words of inheritance to all the devises, as the testator certainly +knew their necessity, and that the conflict only will be between the +different wills, in which case, I see nothing which can be opposed to +the last. I shall be very happy to eat at Pen-park some of the good +mutton and beef of Marrowbone, Horse-pasture, and Poison-field, with +yourself and Mrs. Gilmer, and my good old neighbors. I am as happy no +where else, and in no other society, and all my wishes end, where I hope +my days will end, at Monticello. Too many scenes of happiness mingle +themselves with all the recollections of my native woods and fields, to +suffer them to be supplanted in my affection by any other. I consider +myself here as a traveller only, and not a resident. My commission +expires next spring, and if not renewed, I shall of course return then. +If renewed, I shall remain here some time longer. How much, I cannot +say; yet my wishes shorten the period. Among the strongest inducements, +will be that of your society and Mrs. Gilmer's, which I am glad to find +brought more within reach, by your return to Pen-park. My daughters are +importunate to return also. Patsy enjoys good health, and is growing +to my stature. Maria arrived here about a month ago, after a favorable +voyage, and in perfect health. My own health has been as good as ever, +after the first year's probation. If you knew how agreeable to me are +the details of the small news of my neighborhood, your charity would +induce you to write frequently. Your letters lodged in the post-office +at Richmond (to be forwarded to New York) come with certainty. We are +doubtful yet, whether there will be war or not. Present me with warm +affection to Mrs. Gilmer, and be assured yourself of the unvarying +sentiments of esteem and attachment, with which I am, Dear Doctor, your +sincere friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXXVI.--TO JOSEPH JONES, August 14, 1787 + + +TO JOSEPH JONES. + +Paris, August 14, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I have never yet thanked you, but with the heart, for the act of +Assembly confirming the agreement with Maryland, the pamphlet, and +papers, I received from you a twelvemonth ago. Very soon after their +receipt, I got my right wrist dislocated, which prevented me long from +writing, and as soon as that was able to bear it, I took a long journey, +from which I am but lately returned. I am anxious to hear what +our federal convention recommends, and what the States will do in +consequence of their recommendation. * * * * With all the defects of +our constitution, whether general or particular, the comparison of our +governments with those of Europe, is like a comparison of heaven and +hell. England, like the earth, may be allowed to take the intermediate +station. And yet I hear there are people among you, who think the +experience of our governments has already proved, that republican +governments will not answer. Send those gentry here, to count the +blessings of monarchy. A king's sister, for instance, stopped in the +road, and on a hostile journey, is sufficient cause for him to march +immediately twenty thousand men to revenge this insult, when he had +shown himself little moved by the matter of right then in question. + +***** + +From all these broils we are happily free, and that God may keep us long +so, and yourself in health and happiness, is the prayer of, + +Dear Sir, your most obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXXVII.--TO GENERAL WASHINGTON, August 14, 1787 + + +TO GENERAL WASHINGTON. + +Paris, August 14, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I was happy to find, by the letter of August the 1st, 1786, which you +did me the honor to write to me, that the modern dress for your statue, +would meet your approbation. I found it strongly the sentiment of +West, Copely, Trumbull, and Brown, in London; after which it would be +ridiculous to add, that it was my own. I think a modern in an antique +dress, as just an object of ridicule, as a Hercules or Marius with a +periwig and chapeau bras. + +I remember having written to you, while Congress sat at Annapolis, on +the water communication between ours and the western country, and to +have mentioned, particularly, the information I had received of +the plain face of the country between the sources of Big-beaver and +Cayohoga, which made me hope that a canal, of no great expense, might +unite the navigation of Lake Erie and the Ohio. You must since have had +occasion of getting better information on this subject, and if you have, +you would oblige me by a communication of it. I consider this canal, if +practicable, as a very important work. + +I remain in hopes of great and good effects from the decision of the +Assembly over which you are presiding. To make our States one as to all +foreign concerns, preserve them several as to all merely domestic, +to give to the federal head some peaceable mode of enforcing its just +authority, to organize that head into legislative, executive, and +judiciary departments, are great desiderata in our federal constitution. +Yet with all its defects, and with all those of our particular +governments, the inconveniences resulting from them are so light, in +comparison with those existing in every other government on earth, that +our citizens may certainly be considered as in the happiest political +situation which exists. + +The _Assemblee des Notables_ has been productive of much good in this +country. The reformation of some of the most oppressive laws has taken +place, and is taking place. The allotment of the State into subordinate +governments, the administration of which is committed to persons chosen +by the people, will work in time a very beneficial change in their +constitution. The expense of the trappings of monarchy, too, is +lightening. Many of the useless officers, high and low, of the King, +Queen, and Princes, are struck off. Notwithstanding all this, the +discovery of the abominable abuses of public money by the late +Comptroller General, some new expenses of the court, not of a piece with +the projects of reformation, and the imposition of new taxes, have, in +the course of a few weeks, raised a spirit of discontent in this nation, +so great and so general, as to threaten serious consequences. The +parliaments in general, and particularly that of Paris, put themselves +at the head of this effervescence, and direct its object to the calling +the States General, who have not been assembled since 1614. The object +is to fix a constitution, and to limit expenses. The King has been +obliged to hold a bed of justice, to enforce the registering the new +taxes: the parliament, on their side, propose to issue a prohibition +against their execution. Very possibly this may bring on their exile. +The mild and patriotic character of the new ministry is the principal +dependence against this extremity. + +The turn which the affairs of Europe will take, is not yet decided. + +A war, wherein France, Holland, and England should be parties, seems, +_prima facie_, to promise much advantage to us. But, in the first place, +no war can be safe for us, which threatens France with an unfavorable +issue. And, in the next, it will probably embark us again into the +ocean of speculation, engage us to overtrade ourselves, convert us into +sea-rovers, under French and Dutch colors, divert us from agriculture, +which is our wisest pursuit, because it will in the end contribute +most to real wealth, good morals, and happiness. The wealth acquired by +speculation and plunder, is fugacious in its nature, and fills society +with the spirit of gambling. The moderate and sure income of husbandry +begets permanent improvement, quiet life, and orderly conduct, both +public and private. We have no occasion for more commerce than to +take off our superfluous produce, and the people complain that some +restrictions prevent this; yet the price of articles with us, in +general, shows the contrary. Tobacco, indeed, is low, not because we +cannot carry it where we please, but because we make more than the +consumption requires. Upon the whole, I think peace advantageous to +us, necessary for Europe, and desirable for humanity. A few days will +decide, probably, whether all these considerations are to give way to +the bad passions of Kings, and those who would be Kings. + +I have the honor to be, with very sincere esteem and respect, Dear Sir, +your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + +P. S. August 15. The parliament is exiled to Troyes this morning. T. J. + + + + +LETTER LXXXVIII.--TO COLONEL HUMPHREYS, August 14, 1787 + + +TO COLONEL HUMPHREYS. + +Paris, August 14, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I remember when you left us, it was with a promise to supply all the +defects of correspondence in our friends, of which we complained, and +which you had felt in common with us. Yet I have received but one letter +from you, which was dated June the 5th, 1786, and I answered it August +the 14th, 1786. Dropping that, however, and beginning a new account, +I will observe to you, that wonderful improvements are making here in +various lines. In architecture, the wall of circumvallation round +Paris, and the palaces by which we are to be let out and in, are +nearly completed; four hospitals are to be built instead of the old +_hotel-dieu_; one of the old bridges has all its houses demolished, and +a second nearly so; a new bridge is begun at the Place Louis XV.; the +Palais Royal is gutted, a considerable part in the centre of the +garden being dug out, and a subterranean circus begun, wherein will be +equestrian exhibitions, &c. In society, the _habit habille_ is almost +banished, and they begin to go even to great suppers in frock: the court +and diplomatic corps, however, must always be excepted. They are too +high to be reached by any improvement. They are the last refuge from +which etiquette, formality, and folly will be driven. Take away these, +and they would be on a level with other people. + + [After describing the unsettled state of Europe, as in some + of the preceding letters, the writer proceeds.] + +So much for the blessings of having Kings, and magistrates who would be +Kings. From these events our young republics may learn useful lessons, +never to call on foreign powers to settle their differences, to guard +against hereditary magistrates, to prevent their citizens from becoming +so established in wealth and power, as to be thought worthy of alliance +by marriage with the nieces, sisters, &c. of Kings, and, in short, to +besiege the throne of Heaven with eternal prayers, to extirpate from +creation this class of human lions, tigers, and mammoths, called Kings; +from whom, let him perish who does not say, 'Good Lord, deliver us;' and +that so we may say, one and all, or perish, is the fervent prayer of +him who has the honor to mix with it sincere wishes for your health and +happiness, and to be, with real attachment and respect, Dear Sir, your +affectionate friend and humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER LXXXIX.--TO JOHN JAY, August 15, 1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Sir, + +Paris, August 15, 1787. + +An American gentleman leaving Paris this afternoon, to go by the way +of L'Orient to Boston, furnishes me the rare occasion of a conveyance, +other than the packet, sure and quick. My letter by the packet informed +you of the bed of justice, for enregistering the stamp tax and land +tax. The parliament, on their return came to an _Arretee_ (a resolution) +which, besides protesting against the enregistering, as done by force, +laid the foundation for an _Arret de defence_ (an act) against the +execution of the two new laws. The question on the final _Arret_ was +adjourned to the day before yesterday. It is believed they did not +conclude on this _Arret_, as it has not appeared. However, there was a +concourse of about ten thousand people at the parliament house, who, on +their adjournment, received them with acclamations of joy, loosened +the horses of the most eminent speakers against the tax from their +carriages, and drew them home. This morning, the parliament is exiled +to Troyes. It is believed to proceed, principally, from the fear of a +popular commotion here. + +The officer charged by this court, to watch the English squadron, which +was under sailing orders, returned about a week ago with information +that it had sailed, having shaped its course west-wardly. This is +another step towards war. It is the more suspicious, as their minister +here denies the fact. Count Adhemar is here from London, by leave from +his court. The Duke of Dorset, the British ambassador here, has lately +gone to London on leave. Neither of these ambassadors has the confidence +of his court, on the point of abilities. The latter merits it for his +honesty. The minister of the British court, resident here, remains; but +Mr. Eden, their ambassador to Spain, under pretence of taking this +in his route, is in truth their _fac-totum_ in the present emergency. +Nothing worth noting has occurred since my last, either in the Dutch or +Austrian Netherlands. + +I have the honor to be, with the most perfect esteem and respect, Sir, +your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XC.--TO JOHN ADAMS, August 30, 1787 + + +TO JOHN ADAMS. + +Paris, August 30, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +Since your favor of July the 10th, mine have been of July the 17th, +23rd, and 28th. The last enclosed a bill of exchange from Mr. Grand, on +Tessier, for L46. 17s. 10d. sterling, to answer General Sullivan's bill +for that sum. I hope it got safe to hand, though I have been anxious +about it, as it went by post, and my letters through that channel +sometimes miscarry. + +From the separation of the _Notables_ to the present moment, has been +perhaps the most interesting interval ever known in this country. +The propositions of the government, approved by the _Notables_, were +precious to the nation, and have been in an honest course of execution, +some of them being carried into effect, and others preparing. Above all, +the establishment of the Provincial Assemblies, some of which have begun +their sessions, bid fair to be the instrument for circumscribing the +power of the crown, and raising the people into consideration. The +election given to them, is what will do this. Though the minister, who +proposed these improvements, seems to have meant them as the price +of the new supplies, the game has been so played, as to secure the +improvements to the nation, without securing the price. The _Notables_ +spoke softly on the subject of the additional supplies. But the +parliament took them up roundly, refused to register the edicts for the +new taxes, till compelled in a bed of justice, and suffered themselves +to be transferred to Troyes, rather than withdraw their opposition. It +is urged principally against the King, that his revenue is one hundred +and thirty millions more than that of his predecessor was, and yet he +demands one hundred and twenty millions further. You will see this well +explained in the '_Conference entre un Ministre d'etat et un Conseiller +au parliament,_' which I send you with some small pamphlets. In the +mean time, all tongues in Paris (and in France as it is said) have been +let loose, and never was a license of speaking against the government, +exercised in London more freely or more universally. Caricatures, +placards, _bons-mots_, have been indulged in by all ranks of people, +and I know of no well attested instance of a single punishment. For some +time, mobs of ten, twenty, and thirty thousand people collected daily, +surrounded the Parliament house, huzzaed the members, even entered +the doors and examined into their conduct, took the horses out of the +carriages of those who did well, and drew them home. The government +thought it prudent to prevent these, drew some regiments into the +neighborhood, multiplied the guards, had the streets constantly +patrolled by strong parties, suspended privileged places, forbade all +clubs, &c. The mobs have ceased: perhaps this may be partly owing to the +absence of Parliament. The Count d'Artois, sent to hold a bed of justice +in the _Cour des Aides_, was hissed and hooted without reserve, by the +populace; the carriage of Madame de (I forget the name), in the Queen's +livery, was stopped by the populace, under a belief that it was Madame +de Polignac, whom they would have insulted; the Queen, going to the +theatre at Versailles with Madame de Polignac, was received with a +general hiss. The King, long in the habit of drowning his cares in +wine, plunges deeper and deeper. The Queen cries, but sins on. The Count +d'Artois is detested, and Monsieur, the general favorite. The Archbishop +of Toulouse is made minister principal, a virtuous, patriotic, and able +character. The Marechal de Castries retired yesterday, notwithstanding +strong solicitations to remain in office. The Marechal de Segur retired +at the same time, prompted to it by the court. Their successors are not +yet known. Monsieur de St. Priest goes ambassador to Holland, in the +room of Verac, transferred to Switzerland, and the Count de Moustier +goes to America, in the room of the Chevalier de la Luzerne, who has +a promise of the first vacancy. These nominations are not yet made +formally, but they are decided on, and the parties are ordered to +prepare for their destination. + +As it has been long since I have had a confidential conveyance to you, +I have brought together the principal facts from the adjournment of the +Notables, to the present moment, which, as you will perceive from their +nature, required a confidential conveyance. I have done it the rather, +because, though you will have heard many of them, and seen them in the +public papers, yet, floating in the mass of lies which constitute the +atmosphere of London and Paris, you may not have been sure of their +truth; and I have mentioned every truth of any consequence, to enable +you to stamp as false, the facts pretermitted. I think that in the +course of three months, the royal authority has lost, and the rights +of the nation gained, as much ground by a revolution of public opinion +only, as England gained in all her civil wars under the Stuarts. I +rather believe, too, they will retain the ground gained, because it +is defended by the young and the middle-aged, in opposition to the old +only. The first party increases, and the latter diminishes daily, from +the course of nature. You may suppose, that in this situation, war would +be unwelcome to France. She will surely avoid it, if not forced into it +by the courts of London and Berlin. If forced, it is probable she +will change the system of Europe totally, by an alliance with the two +empires, to whom nothing would be more desirable. In the event of such +a coalition, not only Prussia, but the whole European world must receive +from them their laws. But France will probably endeavor to preserve the +present system, if it can be done, by sacrificing, to a certain degree, +the pretensions of the patriotic party in Holland. But of all these +matters, you can judge, in your position, where less secrecy is +observed, better than I can. + +I have news from America as late as July the 19th. Nothing had +transpired from the federal convention. I am sorry they began their +deliberations by so abominable a precedent, as that of tying up the +tongues of their members. Nothing can justify this example, but the +innocence of their intentions, and ignorance of the value of public +discussions. I have no doubt that all their other measures will be good +and wise. It is really an assembly of demigods. General Washington was +of opinion, that they should not separate till October. + +I have the honor to be, with every sentiment of friendship and respect, +Dear Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XCI.--TO MR. WYTHE, September 16,1787 + + +TO MR. WYTHE. + +Paris, September 16,1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I am now to acknowledge the receipt of your favors of December the 13th +and 22nd, 1786, and of January, 1787. These should not have been so +long unanswered, but that they arrived during my absence on a journey of +between three and four months, through the southern parts of France and +northern of Italy. In the latter country, my time allowed me to go no +further than Turin, Milan, and Genoa: consequently, I scarcely got +into classical ground. I took with me some of the writings, in which +endeavors have been made to investigate the passage of Annibal over the +Alps, and was just able to satisfy myself, from a view of the +country, that the descriptions given of his march are not sufficiently +particular, to enable us, at this day, even to guess at his track across +the Alps. In architecture, painting, sculpture, I found much amusement: +but more than all, in their agriculture, many objects of which might be +adopted with us to great advantage. I am persuaded, there are many parts +of our lower country where the olive tree might be raised, which is +assuredly the richest gift of Heaven. I can scarcely except bread. I see +this tree supporting thousands among the Alps, where there is not soil +enough to make bread for a single family. The caper, too, might be +cultivated with us. The fig we do raise. I do not speak of the vine, +because it is the parent of misery. Those who cultivate it are always +poor, and he who would employ himself with us in the culture of corn, +cotton, &c. can procure, in exchange for them, much more wine, and +better, than he could raise by its direct culture. + +I sent you formerly copies of the documents on the Tagliaferro family, +which I had received from Mr. Febroni. I now send the originals. I have +procured for you a copy of Polybius, the best edition; but the best +edition of Vitruvius which is with the commentaries of Ficinus, is not +to be got here. I have sent to Holland for it. In the mean time, the +Polybius comes in a box containing books for Peter Carr, and for some of +my friends in Williamsburg and its vicinities. I have taken the liberty +of addressing the box to you. It goes to New York in the packet-boat +which carries this letter, and will be forwarded to you by water, by Mr. +Madison. Its freight to New York is paid here. The transportation from +thence to Williamsburg, will be demanded of you, and shall stand as the +equivalent to the cost of Polybius and Vitruvius, if you please. The +difference either way, will not be worth the trouble of raising and +transmitting accounts. I send you herewith a state of the contents of +the box, and for whom each article is. Among these are some, as you will +perceive, of which I ask your acceptance. It is a great comfort to me, +that while here, I am able to furnish some amusement to my friends, by +sending them such productions of genius, ancient and modern, as might +otherwise escape them; and I hope they will permit me to avail myself of +the occasion, while it lasts. + +This world is going all to war. I hope ours will remain clear of it. It +is already declared between the Turks and Russians, and considering the +present situation of Holland, it cannot fail to spread itself all over +Europe. Perhaps it may not be till next spring, that the other powers +will be engaged in it: nor is it as yet clear, how they will arrange +themselves. I think it not impossible, that France and the two empires +may join against all the rest. The Patriotic party in Holland will +be saved by this, and the Turks sacrificed. The only thing which can +prevent the union of France and the two empires, is the difficulty of +agreeing about the partition of the spoils. Constantinople is the key of +Asia. Who shall have it, is the question. I cannot help looking forward +to the re-establishment of the Greeks as a people, and the language of +Homer becoming again a living language, as among possible events. You +have now with you Mr. Paradise, who can tell you how easily the modern +may be improved into the ancient Greek. + +You ask me in your letter, what ameliorations I think necessary in our +federal constitution. It is now too late to answer the question, and +it would always have been presumption in me to have done it. Your own +ideas, and those of the great characters who were to be concerned with +you in these discussions, will give the law, as they ought to do, to us +all. My own general idea was, that the States should severally preserve +their sovereignty in whatever concerns themselves alone, and that +whatever may concern another State, or any foreign nation, should be +made a part of the federal sovereignty: that the exercise of the federal +sovereignty should be divided among three several bodies, legislative, +executive, and judiciary, as the State sovereignties are: and that +some peaceable means should be contrived, for the federal head to force +compliance on the part of the States. I have reflected on your idea of +wooden or ivory diagrams, for the geometrical demonstrations. I should +think wood as good as ivory; and that in this case, it might add to the +improvement of the young gentlemen, that they should make the figures +themselves. Being furnished by a workman with a piece of vineer, no +other tool than a penknife and a wooden rule would be necessary. Perhaps +pasteboards, or common cards, might be still more convenient. The +difficulty is, how to reconcile figures which must have a very sensible +breadth, to our ideas of a mathematical line, which, as it has neither +breadth nor thickness, will revolt more at these, than at simple lines +drawn on paper or slate. If, after reflecting on this proposition, you +would prefer having them made here, lay your commands on me, and they +shall be executed. + +I return you a thousand thanks for your goodness to my nephew. After my +debt to you for whatever I am myself, it is increasing it too much, +to interest yourself for his future fortune. But I know that to you, a +consciousness of doing good is a luxury ineffable. You have enjoyed it +already, beyond all human measure, and that you may long live to enjoy +it, and to bless your country and friends, is the sincere prayer of him, +who is, with every possible sentiment of esteem and respect, Dear Sir, +your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XCII.--TO JOHN JAY, September 19, 1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Sir, + +Paris, September 19, 1787. + +My last letters to you were of the 6th and 15th of August; since which, +I have been honored with yours of July the 24th, acknowledging the +receipt of mine of the 14th and 23d of February. I am anxious to hear +you have received that also of May the 4th, written from Marseilles. +According to the desires of Congress, expressed in their vote confirming +the appointments of Francisco Giuseppa and Girolamo Chiappi, their +agents in Morocco, I have written letters to these gentlemen, to begin a +correspondence with them. To the first, I have enclosed the ratification +of the treaty with the Emperor of Morocco, and shall send it either by +our agent at Marseilles, who is now here, or by the Count Daranda, who +sets out for Madrid in a few days, having relinquished his embassy here. +I shall proceed on the redemption of our captives at Algiers, as soon as +the commissioners of the treasury shall enable me, by placing the money +necessary under my orders. The prisoners redeemed by the religious order +of Mathurins, cost about four hundred dollars each, and the General of +the order told me, that they had never been able to redeem foreigners on +so good terms as their own countrymen. Supposing that their redemption, +clothing, feeding, and transportation should amount to five hundred +dollars each, there must be, at least, a sum of ten thousand dollars set +apart for this purpose. Till this is done, I shall take no other step +than the preparatory one, of destroying at Algiers all idea of our +intending to redeem the prisoners. This, the General of the Mathurins +told me, was indispensably necessary, and that it must not, on any +account, transpire, that the public would interest themselves for their +redemption. This was rendered the more necessary, by the declaration of +the Dey to the Spanish consul, that he should hold him responsible, at +the Spanish price, for our prisoners, even for such as should die. Three +of them have died of the plague. By authorizing me to redeem at the +prices usually paid by the European nations, Congress, I suppose, could +not mean the Spanish price, which is not only unusual but unprecedented, +and would make our vessels the first object with those pirates. I +shall pay no attention, therefore, to the Spanish price, unless further +instructed. Hard as it may seem, I should think it necessary, not to +let it be known even to the relations of the captives, that we mean to +redeem them. + +I have the honor to inclose you a paper from the admiralty of +Guadaloupe, sent to me as a matter of form, and to be lodged, I suppose, +with our marine records. I enclose, also, a copy of a letter from the +Count de Florida Blanca to Mr. Carmichael, by which you will perceive, +they have referred the settlement of the claim of South Carolina for +the use of their frigate, to Mr. Gardoqui, and to the Delegates of South +Carolina in Congress. + +I had the honor to inform you in my last letter, of the parliament's +being transferred to Troyes. To put an end to the tumults in Paris, +some regiments were brought nearer, the patroles were strengthened and +multiplied, some mutineers punished by imprisonment: it produced the +desired effect. It is confidently believed, however, that the parliament +will be immediately recalled, the stamp tax and land tax repealed, and +other means devised of accommodating their receipts and expenditures. +Those supposed to be in contemplation, are, a rigorous levy of the old +tax of the _deux vingtiemes_, on the rich, who had, in a great measure, +withdrawn their property from it, as well as on the poor, on whom it had +principally fallen. This will greatly increase the receipts: while they +are proceeding on the other hand, to reform their expenses far beyond +what they had promised. It is said these reformations will amount to +eighty millions. Circumstances render these measures more and more +pressing. I mentioned to you in my last letter, that the officer +charged by the ministry to watch the motion of the British squadron, had +returned with information that it had sailed westwardly. The fact was +not true. He had formed his conclusion too hastily, and thus led the +ministry into error. The King of Prussia, urged on by England, has +pressed more and more the affairs of Holland and lately has given to the +States General of Holland four days only to comply with his demand. +This measure would, of itself, have rendered it impossible for France +to proceed longer in the line of accommodation with Prussia. In the +same moment, an event takes place, which seems to render all attempt at +accommodation idle. The Turks have declared war against the Russians, +and that under circumstances which exclude all prospect of preventing +its taking place. The King of Prussia having deserted his ancient +friends, there remain only France and Turkey, perhaps Spain also, +to oppose the two empires, Prussia and England. By such a piece of +Quixotism, France might plunge herself into ruin with the Turks and +Dutch, but would save neither. But there is certainly a confederacy +secretly in contemplation, of which the public have not yet the smallest +suspicion; that is between France and the two empires. I think it +sure that Russia has desired this, and that the Emperor, after some +hesitation, has acceded. It rests on this country to close. Her +indignation against the King of Prussia will be some spur. She will +thereby save her party in Holland, and only abandon the Turks to that +fate she cannot ward off, and which their precipitation has brought on +themselves, by the instigation of the English ambassador at the Porte, +and against the remonstrances of the French ambassador. Perhaps this +formidable combination, should it take place, may prevent the war of the +western powers, as it would seem that neither England nor Prussia would +carry their false calculations so far, as, with the aid of the Turks +only, to oppose themselves to such a force. In that case, the Patriots +of Holland would be peaceably established in the powers of their +government, and the war go on against the Turks only, who would probably +be driven from Europe. This new arrangement would be a total change +of the European system, and a favorable one for our friends. The +probability of a general war, in which this country would be engaged +on one side, and England on the other, has appeared to me sufficient to +justify my writing to our agents in the different ports of France, to +put our merchants on their guard, against risking their property in +French or English bottoms. The Emperor, instead of treading back his +steps in Brabant, as was expected, has pursued the less honorable plan +of decoying his subjects thence by false pretences, to let themselves +be invested by his troops, and this done, he dictates to them his own +terms. Yet it is not certain the matter will end with that. + +The Count De Moustier is nominated Minister Plenipotentiary to America; +and a frigate is ordered to Cherbourg, to carry him over. He will +endeavor to sail by the middle of the next month, but if any delay +should make him pass over the whole of October, he will defer his voyage +to the spring, being unwilling to undertake a winter passage. Monsieur +de St. Priest is sent ambassador to Holland, in the room of Monsieur +de Verac, appointed to Switzerland. The Chevalier de Luzerne might, +I believe,have gone to Holland, but he preferred a general promise of +promotion, and the possibility that it might be to the court of London. +His prospects are very fair. His brother, the Count de la Luzerne, (now +Governor in the West Indies) is appointed minister of the marine, in +the place of Monsieur de Castries, who has resigned. The Archbishop of +Toulouse is appointed ministre principal, and his brother Monsieur +de Brienne, minister of war, in the place of Monsieur de Segur. The +department of the Comptroller has had a very rapid succession of +tenants. From Monsieur de Calonne it passed to Monsieur de Forqueux, +from him to Villedeuil, and from him to Lambert, who holds it at +present, but divided with a Monsieur Cabarrus (whom I believe you knew +in Spain), who is named _Directeur du tresor royal_, the office into +which M. Necker came at first. I had the honor to inform you, that +before the departure of the Count de Luzerne to his government in the +West Indies, I had pressed on him the patronage of our trade with the +French islands; that he appeared well disposed, and assured me he would +favor us as much as his instructions, and the laws of the colonies, +would permit. I am in hopes, these dispositions will be strengthened by +his residence in the islands, and that his acquaintance among the people +there will be an additional motive to favor them. Probably they will +take advantage of his appointment, to press indulgences in commerce with +us. The ministry is of a liberal complexion, and well disposed to +us. The war may add to the motives for opening their islands to other +resources for their subsistence, and for doing what may be agreeable to +us. It seems to me at present, then, that the moment of the arrival of +the Count de la Luzerne will be the moment for trying to obtain a +freer access to their islands. It would be very material to do this, if +possible, in a permanent way, that is to say, by treaty. But I know of +nothing we have to offer in equivalent. Perhaps the payment of our +debt to them might be made use of as some inducement, while they are +so distressed for money. Yet the borrowing the money in Holland will +be rendered more difficult by the same event, in proportion as it will +increase the demand for money by other powers. + +The gazettes of Ley den and France, to this date, are enclosed, together +with some pamphlets on the internal affairs of this country. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XCIII.--TO CHARLES THOMSON, September 20, 1787 + + +TO CHARLES THOMSON. + +Paris, September 20, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +Your favor of April the 28th did not come to my hands till the 1st +instant. Unfortunately, the boxes of plants, which were a day too late +to come by the April packet, missed the packet of June the 10th also, +and only came by that of July the 25th. They are not yet arrived at +Paris, but I expect them daily. I am sensible of your kind attention to +them, and that as you were leaving New York, you took the course which +bade fair to be the best. That they were forgotten in the hands in +which you placed them, was probably owing to much business, and more +important. I have desired Mr. Madison to refund to you the money, +you were so kind as to advance for me. The delay of your letter will +apologize for this delay of the repayment. I thank you also, for the +extract of the letter you were so kind as to communicate to me, on the +antiquities found in the western country. I wish that the persons who +go thither, would make very exact descriptions of what they see of that +kind, without forming any theories. The moment a person forms a theory, +his imagination sees in every object, only the traits which favor that +theory. But it is too early to form theories on those antiquities. +We must wait with patience till more facts are collected. I wish your +Philosophical Society would collect exact descriptions of the several +monuments as yet known, and insert them naked in their Transactions, and +continue their attention to those hereafter to be discovered. Patience +and observation may enable us, in time, to solve the problem, whether +those who formed the scattering monuments in our western country, were +colonies sent off from Mexico or the founders of Mexico itself; whether +both were the descendants or the progenitors of the Asiatic red men. +The Mexican tradition, mentioned by Dr. Robertson, is an evidence, but +a feeble one, in favor of the one opinion. The number of languages +radically different, is a strong evidence in favor of the contrary one. +There is an American by the name of Ledyard, he who was with Captain +Cook on his last voyage, and wrote an account of that voyage, who has +gone to St. Petersburg; from thence he was to go to Kamtschatka; to +cross over thence to the northwest coast of America, and to penetrate +through the main continent, to our side of it. He is a person of +ingenuity and information. Unfortunately, he has too much imagination. +However, if he escapes safely, he will give us new, curious, and useful +information. I had a letter from him, dated last March, when he was +about to leave St. Petersburg on his way to Kamtschatka. + +With respect to the inclination of the strata of rocks, I had observed +them between the Blue Ridge and North Mountains in Virginia, to be +parallel with the pole of the earth. I observed the same thing in most +instances in the Alps, between Cette and Turin: but in returning along +the precipices of the Apennines, where they hang over the Mediterranean, +their direction was totally different and various: and you mention, that +in our western country, they are horizontal. This variety proves they +have not been formed by subsidence, as some writers of theories of the +earth have pretended; for then they should always have been in circular +strata, and concentric. It proves, too, that they have not been formed +by the rotation of the earth on its axis, as might have been suspected, +had all these strata been parallel with that axis. They may, indeed, +have been thrown up by explosions, as Whitehurst supposes, or have been +the effect of convulsions. But there can be no proof of the explosion, +nor is it probable that convulsions have deformed every spot of the +earth. It is now generally agreed that rock grows, and it seems that it +grows in layers in every direction, as the branches of trees grow in +all directions. Why seek further the solution of this phenomenon? Every +thing in nature decays. If it were not reproduced then by growth, there +would be a chasm. + +I remember you asked me in a former letter, whether the steam-mill +in London was turned by the steam immediately, or by the intermediate +agency of water raised by the steam. When I was in London, Boulton +made a secret of his mill. Therefore, I was permitted to see it only +superficially. I saw no water-wheels, and therefore supposed none. +I answered you, accordingly, that there were none. But when I was at +Nismes, I went to see the steam-mill there, and they showed it to me in +all its parts. I saw that their steam raised water, and that this +water turned a wheel. I expressed my doubts of the necessity of the +inter-agency of water, and that the London mill was without it. But they +supposed me mistaken; perhaps I was so: I have had no opportunity since +of clearing up the doubt. + +***** + +I had a letter from Mr. Churchman, but not developing his plan of +knowing the longitude, fully. I wrote him what was doubted about it, so +far as we could conjecture what it was. + +I am with very great and sincere esteem, Dear Sir, your friend and +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XCIV.--TO JOHN JAY, September 22,1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, September 22,1787. + +Sir, + +The letters of which the inclosed are copies, are this moment received, +and as there is a possibility that they may reach Havre before the +packet sails, I have the honor of enclosing them to you. They contain a +promise of reducing the duties on tar, pitch, and turpentine, and that +the government will interest itself with the city of Rouen, to reduce +the local duty on potash. By this you will perceive, that we are getting +on a little in this business, though under their present embarrassments, +it is difficult to procure the attention of the ministers to it. The +parliament has enregistered the edict for a rigorous levy of the _deux +vingtiemes_. As this was proposed by the King in lieu of the _impot +territorial_, there is no doubt now, that the latter, with the stamp +tax, will be immediately repealed. There can be no better proof of the +revolution in the public opinion, as to the powers of the monarch, +and of the force, too, of that opinion. Six weeks ago, we saw the King +displaying the plenitude of his omnipotence, as hitherto conceived, to +enforce these two acts. At this day, he is forced to retract them by the +public voice; for as to the opposition of the parliamemt, that body is +too little esteemed to produce this effect in any case, where the public +do not throw themselves into the same scale. + +I have the honor to be, with the most perfect esteem and respect, Sir, +your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XCV.--TO JOHN JAY, September 22, 1787 + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, September 22, 1787. + +Sir, + +When I had the honor of addressing you this morning, intelligence +was handing about, which I did not think well enough authenticated to +communicate to you. As it is now ascertained, I avail myself of the +chance that another post may yet reach Havre, before the departure of +the packet. This will depend on the wind, which has for some days +been unfavorable. I must premise that this court, about ten days +ago, declared, by their _Charge des Affaires_ in Holland, that if +the Prussian troops continued to menace Holland with an invasion, his +Majesty was determined, in quality of ally, to succor that province. An +official letter from the Hague, of the 18th instant, assures that the +Prussian army entered the territory of Holland on the 15th, that most +of the principal towns had submitted, some after firing a gun or two, +others without resistance: that the Rhingrave de Salm had evacuated +Utrecht, with part of the troops under his command, leaving behind him +one hundred and forty-four pieces of cannon, with great warlike stores: +that the standard of Orange was hoisted every where: that no other +cockade could be worn at the Hague: that the States General were to +assemble that night for reinstating the Stadtholder in all his rights. +The letter concludes, 'We have this moment intelligence that Woerden +has capitulated; so that Amsterdam remains without defence.' So far the +letter. We know, otherwise, that Monsieur de St. Priest, who had set +out on his embassy to the Hague, has stopped at Antwerp, not choosing +to proceed further till new orders. This Court has been completely +deceived, first by its own great desire to avoid a war, and secondly by +calculating that the King of Prussia would have acted on principles +of common sense, which would surely have dictated, that a power, lying +between the jaws of Russia and Austria, should not separate itself from +France, unless, indeed, he had assurances of dispositions in those +two powers, which are not supposed to exist. On the contrary, I am +persuaded that they ask the alliance of France, whom we suppose to +be under hesitations between her reluctance to abandon the Turks, her +jealousy of increasing by their spoils the power of the two empires, and +her inability to oppose them. If they cannot obtain her alliance, they +will surely join themselves to England and Prussia. + +Official advices are received, that the first division of the Russian +army has passed the Borysthenes into the Polish Ukraine, and is marching +towards the frontiers of Turkey. Thus, we may consider the flames of +war as completely kindled in two distinct parts of this quarter of +the globe, and that though France and England have not yet engaged +themselves in it, the probabilities are that they will do it. + +I have the honor to be, with the most perfect esteem and respect, Sir, +your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XCVI.--TO MR. CARNES, September 22, 1787 + + +TO MR. CARNES. + +Paris, September 22, 1787. + +Sir, + +I am honored by your favor of the 17th instant. A war between France and +England does not necessarily engage America in it; and I think she +will be disposed rather to avail herself of the advantages of a neutral +power. By the former usage of nations, the goods of a friend were safe, +though taken in an enemy bottom, and those of an enemy were lawful +prize, though found in a free bottom. But in our treaties with France, +&c. we have established the simpler rule, that a free bottom makes free +goods, and an enemy bottom, enemy goods. The same rule has been adopted +by the treaty of armed neutrality between Russia, Sweden, Denmark, +Holland, and Portugal, and assented to by France and Spain. Contraband +goods, however, are always excepted, so that they may still be +seized; but the same powers have established that naval stores are not +contraband: and this may be considered now as the law of nations. Though +England acquiesced under this during the late war, rather than draw on +herself the neutral powers, yet she never acceded to the new principle, +and her obstinacy on this point is what has prevented the late renewal +of her treaty with Russia. On the commencement of a new war, this +principle will probably be insisted on by the neutral powers, whom we +may suppose to be Sweden, Denmark, Portugal, America, and perhaps Spain. +_Quere_; if England will again acquiesce. Supposing these details +might be useful to you, I have taken the liberty of giving them, and +of assuring you of the esteem with which I am, Sir, your very humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XCVII.--TO JOHN JAY, September 24, 1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, September 24, 1787. + +Sir, + +The times are now so critical, that every day brings something new +and important, not known the day before. Observing the wind still +unfavorable, I am in hopes the packet may not sail to-morrow, and that +this letter may be at Havre in time for that conveyance. Mr. Eden has +waited on Count Montmorin to inform him, officially, that England must +consider its convention with France, relative to the giving notice of +its naval armaments, as at an end, and that they are arming generally. +This is considered here as a declaration of war. The Dutch ambassador +told me yesterday, that he supposed the Prussian troops probably in +possession of the Hague. I asked him if it would interrupt the course of +business, commercial or banking, in Amsterdam; and particularly, whether +our depot of money there was safe. He said, the people of Amsterdam +would be surely so wise as to submit, when they should see that they +could not oppose the Stadtholder: therefore he supposed our depot safe, +and that there would be no interruption of business. It is the hour of +the departure of the post: so I have only time to add assurances of the +respect and esteem, with which I have the honor to be, Sir, your most +obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER XCVIII,--TO JOHN ADAMS, September 28, 1787 + + +TO JOHN ADAMS. + +Paris, September 28, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I received your favor by Mr. Cutting, and thank you sincerely for the +copy of your book. The departure of a packet-boat, which always gives me +full employment for some time before, has only permitted me to look into +it a little. I judge of it from the first volume, which I thought formed +to do a great deal of good. The first principle of a good government, +is certainly a distribution of its powers into executive, judiciary, and +legislative, and a subdivision of the latter into two or three +branches. It is a good step gained, when it is proved that the English +constitution, acknowledged to be better than all which have preceded +it, is only better, in proportion as it has approached nearer to this +distribution of powers. From this, the last step is easy, to show by +a comparison of our constitutions with that of England, how much more +perfect they are. The article of Confederations is certainly worthy of +your pen. It would form a most interesting addition, to show, what has +been the nature of the Confederations which have existed hitherto, what +were their excellencies, and what their defects. + +A comparison of ours with them would be to the advantage of ours, +and would increase the veneration of our countrymen for it. It is +a misfortune, that they do not sufficiently know the value of their +constitutions, and how much happier they are rendered by them, than any +other people on earth, by the governments under which they live. + +You know all that has happened in the United Netherlands. You know +also that our friends, Van Staphorsts, will be among the most likely to +become objects of severity, if any severities should be exercised. Is +the money in their hands entirely safe? If it is not, I am sure you have +already thought of it. Are we to suppose the game already up, and that +the Stadtholder is to be reestablished, perhaps erected into a monarch, +without the country lifting a finger in opposition to it? If so, it is a +lesson the more for us. In fact, what a crowd of lessons do the present +miseries of Holland teach us? Never to have an hereditary officer of any +sort: never to let a citizen ally himself with kings: never to call in +foreign nations to settle domestic differences: never to suppose that +any nation will expose itself to war for us, &c. Still I am not without +hopes, that a good rod is in soak for Prussia, and that England will +feel the end of it. It is known to some, that Russia made propositions +to the Emperor and France, for acting in concert; that the Emperor +consents, and has disposed four camps of one hundred and eighty +thousand men, from the limits of Turkey to those of Prussia. This court +hesitates, or rather its Premier hesitates; for the Queen, Montmorin, +and Breteuil are for the measure. Should it take place, all may yet come +to rights, except for the Turks, who must retire from Europe, and this +they must do, were France Quixotic enough to undertake to support them. +We, I hope, shall be left free to avail ourselves of the advantages of +neutrality: and yet, much I fear, the English, or rather their stupid +King, will force us out of it. For thus I reason. By forcing us into the +war against them, they will be engaged in an expensive land war, as well +as a sea war. Common sense dictates, therefore, that they should let +us remain neuter: ergo, they will not let us remain neuter. I never yet +found any other general rule for foretelling what they will do, but that +of examining what they ought not to do. + +***** + +I have the honor to be, with my best respects to Mrs. Adams, and +sentiments of perfect esteem and regard to yourself, Sir, your most +obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson + + + + +LETTER XCIX.--TO COLONEL SMITH, September 28,1787 + + +TO COLONEL SMITH. + +Paris, September 28,1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I have duly received your favor by Mr. Cutting. I had before had a +transient acquaintance with him, and knew him to be sensible. Your +recommendation is always a new merit. I really think, and had taken the +liberty some time ago of hinting to Congress, that they would do well +to have a diplomatic character at Lisbon. There is no country whose +commerce is more interesting to us. I wish Congress would correspond +to the wishes of that court, in sending a person there, and to mine, +in sending yourself. For I confess, I had rather see you there than at +London, because I doubt whether it be honorable for us to keep any body +at London, unless they keep some person at New York. Of all nations on +earth, they require to be treated with the most hauteur. They require to +be kicked into common good manners. You ask, if you shall say any thing +to Sullivan about the bill. No. Only that it is paid. I have, within +these two or three days, received letters from him explaining the +matter. It was really for the skin and bones of the moose, as I had +conjectured. It was my fault, that I had not given him a rough idea +of the expense I would be willing to incur for them. He had made the +acquisition an object of a regular campaign, and that too of a winter +one. The troops he employed sallied forth, as he writes me, in the month +of March--much snow--a herd attacked--one killed--in the wilderness--a +road to cut twenty miles--to be drawn by hand from the frontiers to his +house--bones to be cleaned, &c. &c. &c. In fine, he put himself to +an infinitude of trouble, more than I meant: he did it cheerfully, and I +feel myself really under obligations to him. That the tragedy might not +want a proper catastrophe, the box, bones, and all are lost: so that +this chapter of Natural History will still remain a blank. But I have +written to him not to send me another. I will leave it for my successor +to fill up, whenever I shall make my bow here. The purchase for Mrs. +Adams shall be made, and sent by Mr. Cutting. I shall always be happy +to receive her commands. Petit shall be made happy by her praises of his +last purchase for her. I must refer you to Mr. Adams for the news. Those +respecting the Dutch you know as well as I. Nor should they be written +but with the pen of Jeremiah. Adieu, mon ami! Yours affectionately, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER C.--TO MONSIEUR LE COMTE DE BUFFON, October 3, 1787 + + +TO MONSIEUR LE COMTE DE BUFFON. + +Paris, October 3, 1787. + +Sir, + +I had the honor of informing you, some time ago, that I had written to +some of my friends in America, desiring they would send me such of the +spoils of the moose, caribou, elk, and deer, as might throw light on +that class of animals; but more particularly, to send me the complete +skeleton, skin, and horns of the moose, in such condition as that the +skin might be sewed up and stuffed, on its arrival here. I am happy to +be able to present to you at this moment, the bones and skin of a moose, +the horns of another individual of the same species, the horns of the +caribou, the elk, the deer, the spiked-horned buck, and the roebuck of +America. They all come from New Hampshire and Massachusetts, and were +received by me yesterday. I give you their popular names, as it rests +with yourself to decide their real names. The skin of the moose was +dressed with the hair on, but a great deal of it has come off, and the +rest is ready to drop off. The horns of the elk are remarkably small. I +have certainly seen some of them, which would have weighed five or six +times as much. This is the animal which we call elk in the southern +parts of America, and of which I have given some description in the +Notes on Virginia, of which I had the honor of presenting you a copy. I +really doubt, whether the flat-horned elk exists in America: and I think +this may be properly classed with the elk, the principal difference +being in the horns. I have seen the _daim_, the _cerf_, the _chevreuil_, +of Europe. But the animal we call elk, and which may be distinguished as +the round-horned elk, is very different from them. I have never seen the +_brand-hirtz_ or _cerf d'Ardennes_, nor the European elk. Could I get +a sight of them, I think I should be able to say which of them the +American elk resembles most, as I am tolerably well acquainted with +that animal. I must observe, also, that the horns of the deer, which +accompany these spoils, are not of the fifth or sixth part of the weight +of some that I have seen. This individual has been of three years +of age, according to our method of judging. I have taken measures, +particularly, to be furnished with large horns of our elk and our deer, +and therefore beg of you not to consider those now sent, as furnishing a +specimen of their ordinary size. I really suspect you will find that +the moose, the round-horned elk, and the American deer are species not +existing in Europe. The moose is, perhaps, of a new class. I wish these +spoils, Sir, may have the merit of adding any thing new to the treasures +of nature, which have so fortunately come under your observation, and +of which she seems to have given you the key: they will in that case +be some gratification to you, which it will always be pleasing to me +to have procured; having the honor to be, with sentiments of the most +perfect esteem and respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CI.--TO MR. DUMAS, October 4,1787 + + +TO MR. DUMAS. + +Paris, October 4,1787. + +Sir, + +I received your favor of the 23rd of September two days ago. That of the +28th and 29th was put in my hands this morning. I immediately waited on +the ambassadors, ordinary and extraordinary, of the United Netherlands, +and also on the envoy of Prussia, and asked their good offices to have +an efficacious protection extended to your person, your family, and your +effects, observing, that the United States know no party, but are the +friends and allies of the United Netherlands as a nation, and would +expect from their friendship, that the person who is charged with their +affairs, until the arrival of a minister, should be covered from all +insult and injury, which might be offered him by a lawless mob; well +assured that their minister, residing with Congress, would on all +occasions receive the same. They have been so good as to promise me, +each, that he will in his first despatches press this matter on the +proper power, and give me reason to hope that it will be efficacious +for your safety. I will transmit your letter to Mr. Jay by the Count +de Moustier, who sets out within a week for New York, as Minister +Plenipotentiary for France, in that country. I sincerely sympathize in +your sufferings, and wish that what I have done may effect an end to +them; being with much respect and esteem, Sir, your most obedient and +most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CII.--TO JOHN JAY, October 8, 1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, October 8, 1787. + +Sir, + +I had the honor of writing you on the 19th of September, twice on the +22nd, and again on the 24th. The two first went by the packet, the +third by a vessel bound to Philadelphia. I have not yet learned by what +occasion the last went. In these several letters, I communicated to +you the occurrences of Europe, as far as they were then known. +Notwithstanding the advantage which the Emperor seemed to have gained +over his subjects of Brabant, by the military arrangements he had been +permitted to make under false pretexts, he has not obtained his ends. He +certainly wished to enforce his new regulations; but he wished more to +be cleared of all domestic difficulties, that he might be free to act +in the great scenes which are preparing for the theatre of Europe. +He seems, therefore, to have instructed his Governor General of the +Netherlands to insist on compliance as far as could be insisted, without +producing resistance by arms; but at the same time, to have furnished +him with a sufficiently complete recantation, to prevent the effects of +insurrection. The Governor pressed; the people were firm; a small act of +force was then attempted, which produced a decided resistance, in which +the people killed several of the military: the last resource was +then used, which was the act of recantation; this produced immediate +tranquillity, and every thing there is now finally settled, by the +Emperor's relinquishment of his plans. + +My letter of the evening of September the 22nd informed you that the +Prussian troops had entered Holland, and that of the 24th, that England +had announced to this court that she was arming generally. These two +events being simultaneous, proved that the two sovereigns acted in +concert. Immediately after, the court of London announced to the other +courts of Europe, that if France entered Holland with armed force, she +would consider it as an act of hostility, and declare war against her; +sending Mr. Grenville here, at the same time, to make what she called a +conciliatory proposition. This proposition was received as a new insult, +Mr. Grenville very coolly treated, and he has now gone back. It is said, +he has carried the ultimatum of France. What it is, particularly, has +not transpired; it is only supposed, in general, to be very firm. You +will see, in one of the Leyden gazettes, one of the letters written by +the ministers of England to the courts of their respective residence, +communicating the declaration before mentioned. In the mean time, +Holland has been sooner reduced by the Prussian troops, than could have +been expected. The abandonment of Utrecht by the Rhingrave of Salm, +seems to have thrown the people under a general panic, during which +every place submitted, except Amsterdam. That had opened conferences +with the Duke of Brunswick; but as late as the 2nd instant, no +capitulation was yet concluded. The King of Prussia, on his first move, +demanded categorically of the King of Poland, what part he intended to +act in the event of war. The latter answered, he should act as events +should dictate; and is, in consequence of this species of menace from +Prussia, arming himself. He can bring into the field about seventy +thousand good cavalry. In the mean time, though nothing transpires +publicly of the confederation between France and the two empires, +mentioned in my letter of September the 19th, it is not the less sure +that it is on the carpet, and will take place. To the circumstances +before mentioned, may be added, as further indications of war, the +naming as Generalissimo of their marine on the Atlantic, Monsieur de +Suffrein, on the Mediterranean, Monsieur Albert de Rioms, the recalling +Monsieur de St. Priest, their ambassador, from Antwerp, before he had +reached the Hague, and the activity of their armies by sea. On the other +hand, the little movement by land would make one suppose they expected +to put the King of Prussia into other hands. They too, like the +Emperor, are arranging matters at home. The rigorous levy of the _deux +vingtiemes_ is enregistered, the stamp act and _impot territorial_ are +revoked, the parliament recalled, the nation soothed by these acts, and +inspired by the insults of the British court. The part of the Council +still leaning towards peace are become unpopular, and perhaps may feel +the effects of it. No change in the administration has taken place since +my last, unless we may consider as such, Monsieur Cabarrus's refusal +to stand in the lines. Thinking he should be forced to follow, too +seriously, plans formed by others, he has declined serving. + +Should this war take place, as is quite probable, and should it be as +general as it threatens to be, our neutrality must be attended with +great advantages. Whether of a nature to improve our morals or our +happiness, is another question. But is it sure that Great Britain, by +her searches, her seizures, and other measures for harassing us, will +permit us to preserve our neutrality? I know it may be argued, that the +land-war, which she would superadd to her sea-war, by provoking us to +join her enemies, should rationally hold her to her good behavior with +us. But since the accession of the present monarch, has it not been +passion, and not reason, which, nine times out of ten, has dictated her +measures? Has there been a better rule of prognosticating what he +would do, than to examine what he ought not to do? When I review +his dispositions and review his conduct, I have little hope of his +permitting our neutrality. He will find subjects of provocation in +various articles of our treaty with France, which will now come into +view, in all their consequences, and in consequences very advantageous +to the one, and injurious to the other country. I suggest these doubts, +on a supposition that our magazines are not prepared for war, and in the +opinion that provisions for that event should be thought of. + +The enclosed letter from Mr. Dumas came to me open, though directed +to you. I immediately waited on the ambassadors, ordinary and +extraordinary, of Holland, and the envoy of Prussia, and prayed them +to interest themselves to have his person, his family, and his +goods protected. They promised me readily to do it, and have written +accordingly; I trust it will be with effect. I could not avoid enclosing +you the letter from Monsieur Bouebe, though I have satisfied him he is +to expect nothing from Congress for his inventions. These are better +certified than most of those things are; but if time stamps their worth, +time will give them to us. He expects no further answer. The gazettes of +Leyden and France to this date accompany this, which will be delivered +you by the Count de Moustier, Minister Plenipotentiary from this +country. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CIII.--TO JAMES MADISON, October 8, 1787 + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, October 8, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +The bearer hereof, the Count de Moustier, successor to Monsieur de la +Luzerne, would, from his office, need no letter of introduction to you +or to any body. Yet I take the liberty of recommending him to you, to +shorten those formal approaches, which the same office would otherwise +expose him to, in making your acquaintance. He is a great enemy to +formality, etiquette, ostentation, and luxury. He goes with the best +dispositions to cultivate society, without poisoning it by ill example. +He is sensible, disposed to view things favorably, and being well +acquainted with the constitution of England, her manners, and language, +is the better prepared for his station with us. But I should have +performed only the lesser, and least pleasing half of my task, were +I not to add my recommendations of Madame de Brehan. She is goodness +itself. You must be well acquainted with her. You will find her well +disposed to meet your acquaintance, and well worthy of it. The way to +please her, is to receive her as an acquaintance of a thousand years' +standing. She speaks little English. You must teach her more, and learn +French from her. She hopes, by accompanying Monsieur de Moustier, to +improve her health, which is very feeble, and still more, to improve +her son in his education, and to remove him to a distance from the +seductions of this country. You will wonder to be told, that there are +no schools in this country to be compared to ours in the sciences. The +husband of Madame de Brehan is an officer, and obliged by the times to +remain with the army. Monsieur de Moustier brings your watch. I have +worn it two months, and really find it a most incomparable one. It will +not want the little re-dressing, which new watches generally do, after +going about a year. It costs six hundred livres. To open it in all its +parts, press the little pin on the edge with the point of your nail; +that opens the crystal; then open the dial-plate in the usual way; then +press the stem, at the end within the loop, and it opens the back for +winding up or regulating. + +De Moustier is remarkably communicative. With adroitness he may +be pumped of any thing. His openness is from character, not from +affectation. An intimacy with him may, on this account, be politically +valuable. + +I am, Dear Sir, your affectionate friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CIV.--TO JOHN JAY, October 8, 1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +(Private.) Paris, October 8, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +The Count de Moustier, Minister Plenipotentiary from the court of +Versailles to the United States, will have the honor of delivering you +this. The connection of your offices will necessarily connect you in +acquaintance; but I beg leave to present him to you, on account of +his personal as well as his public character. You will find him open, +communicative, candid, simple in his manners, and a declared enemy to +ostentation and luxury. He goes with a resolution to add no aliment +to it by his example, unless he finds that the dispositions of our +countrymen require it indispensably. Permit me, at the same time, to +solicit your friendly notice, and through you, that also of Mrs. Jay, to +Madame la Marquise de Brehan, sister-in-law to Monsieur de Moustier. She +accompanies him, in hopes that a change of climate may assist her feeble +health, and also, that she may procure a more valuable education for +her son, and safer from seduction, in America than in France. I think +it impossible to find a better woman, more amiable, more modest, more +simple in her manners, dress, and way of thinking. She will deserve the +friendship of Mrs. Jay, and the way to obtain hers, is to receive her +and treat her without the shadow of etiquette. + +The Count d'Aranda leaves us in a day or two. He desired me to recall +him to your recollection, and to assure you of his friendship. In a +letter which I mean as a private one, I may venture details too minute +for a public one, yet not unamusing, or unsatisfactory. I may venture +names too, without the danger of their getting into a newspaper. There +has long been a division in the Council here, on the question of war +and peace. Monsieur de Montmorin and Monsieur de Breteuil have been +constantly for war. They are supported in this by the Queen. The King +goes for nothing. He hunts one half the day, is drunk the other, and +signs whatever he is bid. The Archbishop of Toulouse desires peace. +Though brought in by the Queen, he is opposed to her in this capital +object, which would produce an alliance with her brother. Whether the +Archbishop will yield or not, I know not. But an intrigue is already +begun for ousting him from his place, and it is rather probable it will +succeed. He is a good and patriotic minister for peace, and very capable +in the department of finance. At least he is so in theory. I have heard +his talents for execution censured. + +Can I be useful here to Mrs. Jay or yourself, in executing any +commissions, great or small? I offer you my services with great +cordiality. You know whether any of the wines of this country may +attract your wishes. In my tour, last spring, I visited the best +vineyards of Burgundy, Cote-rotie, Hermitage, Lunelle, Frontignan, and +white and red Bordeaux, got acquainted with the proprietors, and can +procure for you the best crops from the vigneron himself. Mrs. Jay knows +if there is any thing else here, in which I could be useful to her. +Command me without ceremony, as it will give me real pleasure to serve +you; and be assured of the sincere attachment and friendship, with which +I am, Dear Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CV.--TO MONSIEUR LE COMTE DE MOUSTIER, October 9,1787 + + +TO MONSIEUR LE COMTE DE MOUSTIER. + +Paris, October 9,1787. + +Mr. Jefferson has the honor of presenting his respects to Monsieur le +Comte de Moustier, and of taking leave of him by letter, which he is +prevented doing in person, by an unexpected visit to Versailles to-day. +He will hope to have the pleasure of sometimes hearing from him, and +will take the liberty occasionally, of troubling him with a letter. +He considers the Count de Moustier as forming with himself the two end +links of that chain which holds the two nations together, and is happy +to have observed in him dispositions to strengthen rather than to +weaken it. It is a station of importance, as on the cherishing good +dispositions and quieting bad ones, will depend in some degree the +happiness and prosperity of the two countries. The Count de Moustier +will find the affections of the Americans with France, but their habits +with England. Chained to that country by circumstances, embracing what +they loathe, they realize the fable of the living and the dead bound +together. Mr. Jefferson troubles the Count de Moustier with two letters, +to gentlemen whom he wishes to recommend to his particular acquaintance, +and to that of Madame de Brehan. He bids Monsieur de Moustier a most +friendly adieu, and wishes him every thing which may render agreeable +his passage across the water, and his residence beyond it. + + + + +LETTER CVI.--TO MADAME DE BREHAN, October 9, 1787 + + +TO MADAME DE BREHAN. + +Paris, October 9, 1787. + +Persuaded, Madam, that visits at this moment must be troublesome I beg +you to accept my adieus, in this form. Be assured, that no one mingles +with them more regret at separating from you. I will ask your permission +to inquire of you by letter sometimes, how our country agrees with your +health and your expectations, and will hope to hear it from yourself. +The imitation of European manners, which you will find in our towns, +will, I fear, be little pleasing. I beseech you to practise still your +own, which will furnish them a model of what is perfect. Should you be +singular, it will be by excellence, and after a while you will see the +effect of your example. + +Heaven bless you, Madam, and guard you under all circumstances; give you +smooth waters, gentle breezes, and clear skies, hushing all its elements +into peace, and leading with its own hand the favored bark, till it +shall have safely landed its precious charge on the shores of our new +world. + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CVII.--TO MR. DUMAS, October 14, 1787 + + +TO MR. DUMAS. + +Paris, October 14, 1787. + +Sir, + +I have duly received your favors of October the 23rd and 26th. With +respect to the mission you suggest, in the former, no powers are lodged +in the hands of Mr. Adams and myself. Congress commissioned Mr. Adams, +Doctor Franklin, and myself, to treat with the Emperor on the subjects +of amity and commerce: at the same time, they gave us the commission to +Prussia, with which you are acquainted. We proposed treating through the +Imperial ambassador here. It was declined on their part, and our powers +expired, having been given but for two years. Afterwards, the same +ambassador here was instructed to offer to treat with us. I informed +him our powers were expired, but that I would write to Congress on the +subject. I did so, but have never yet received an answer. Whether this +proceeds from a change of opinion in them, or from the multiplicity +of their occupations, I am unable to say: but this state of facts will +enable you to see that we have no powers, in this instance, to take the +measures you had thought of. I sincerely sympathize with you in your +sufferings. Though forbidden by my character to meddle in the internal +affairs of an allied State, it is the wish of my heart that their +troubles may have such an issue, as will secure the greatest degree +of happiness to the body of the people: for it is with the mass of the +nation we are allied, and not merely with their governors. To inform +the minds of the people, and to follow their will, is the chief duty of +those placed at their head. What party in your late struggles was most +likely to do this, you are more competent to judge than I am. Under +every event, that you maybe safe and happy, is the sincere wish of him, +who has the honor to be, with sentiments of great esteem, Sir, your most +obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CVIII.--TO MADAME DE CORNY, October 18, 1787 + + +TO MADAME DE CORNY. + +Paris, October 18, 1787. + +I now have the honor, Madam, to send you the Memoire of M. de Calonne. +Do not injure yourself by hurrying its perusal. Only, when you shall +have read it at your ease, be so good as to send it back, that it may be +returned to the Duke of Dorset. You will read it with pleasure. It has +carried comfort to my heart, because it must do the same to the King and +the nation. Though it does not prove M. de Calonne to be more innocent +than his predecessors, it shows him not to have been that exaggerated +scoundrel, which the calculations and the clamors of the public +have supposed. It shows that the public treasures have not been so +inconceivably squandered, as the parliaments of Grenoble, Toulouse, &c. +had affirmed. In fine, it shows him less wicked, and France less badly +governed, than I had feared. In examining my little collection of books, +to see what it could furnish you on the subject of Poland, I find a +small piece which may serve as a supplement to the history I had sent +you. It contains a mixture of history and politics, which I think you +will like--How do you do this morning? I have feared you exerted and +exposed yourself too much yesterday. I ask you the question, though I +shall not await its answer. The sky is clearing, and I shall away to my +hermitage. God bless you, my Dear Madam, now and always. Adieu. + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CIX.--TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN, October 23, 1787 + + +TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN. + +Paris, October 23, 1787. + +Sir, + +I take the liberty of troubling your Excellency on the subject of the +_Arret_, which has lately appeared, for prohibiting the importation +of whale-oils and spermaceti, the produce of foreign fisheries. This +prohibition, being expressed in general terms, seems to exclude the +whale-oils of the United States of America, as well as of the nations +of Europe. The uniform disposition, however, which his Majesty and his +ministers have shown to promote the commerce between France and the +United States, by encouraging our productions to come hither, and +particularly those of our fisheries, induces me to hope, that these were +not within their view, at the passing of this _Arret_. I am led the more +into this opinion, when I recollect the assiduity exercised for several +months, in the year 1785, by the committee appointed by government to +investigate the objects of commerce of the two countries, and to report +the encouragements of which it was susceptible; the result of that +investigation, which his Majesty's Comptroller General did me the +honor to communicate, in a letter of the 22nd of October, 1786, stating +therein the principles which should be established for the future +regulation of that commerce, and particularly distinguishing the article +of whale-oils by an abatement of the duties on them for the present, +and a promise of farther abatement after the year 1790; the thorough +re-investigation with which Monsieur de Lambert honored this subject +when the letter of 1786 was to be put into the form of an _Arret_; that +_Arret_ itself, bearing date the 29th of December last, which ultimately +confirmed the abatements of duty present and future, and declared +that his Majesty reserved to himself to grant other favors to that +production, if, on further information, he should find it for the +interest of the two nations; and finally, the letter in which Monsieur +de Lambert did me the honor to enclose the _Arret_, and to assure me, +that the duties which had been levied on our whale-oils, contrary to the +intention of the letter of 1786, should be restored. On a review, then, +of all these circumstances, I cannot but presume, that it has not +been intended to reverse, in a moment, views so maturely digested, and +uniformly pursued; and that the general expressions of the _Arret_ of +September the 28th had within their contemplation the nations of Europe +only. This presumption is further strengthened by having observed, that +in the treaties of commerce, made since the epoch of our independence, +the _jura gentis amicissimcae_ conceded to other nations, are expressly +restrained to those of the 'most favored European nation': his Majesty +wisely foreseeing that it would be expedient to regulate the commerce of +a nation, which brings nothing but raw materials to employ the industry +of his subjects, very differently from that of the European nations, +who bring mostly what has already passed through all the stages of +manufacture. + +On these circumstances, I take the liberty of asking information from +your Excellency, as to the extent of the late _Arret_: and if I have not +been mistaken in supposing it did not mean to abridge that of December +the 29th, I would solicit an explanatory _Arret_, to prevent the +misconstruction of it, which will otherwise take place. It is much to be +desired too, that this explanation could be given as soon as possible, +in order that it may be handed out with the _Arret_ of September the +28th. Great alarm may otherwise be spread among the merchants, and +adventurers in the fisheries, who, confiding in the stability of +regulations, which his Majesty's wisdom had so long and well matured, +have embarked their fortunes in speculations in this branch of business. + +The importance of the subject to one of the principal members of our +Union, induces me to attend with great anxiety the re-assurance from +your Excellency, that no change has taken place in his Majesty's views +on this subject; and that his dispositions to multiply, rather than +diminish, the combinations of interest between the two people, continue +unaltered. + +Commerce is slow in changing its channel. That between this country +and the United States is as yet but beginning; and this beginning has +received some checks. The _Arret_ in question would be a considerable +one, without the explanation I have the honor to ask. I am persuaded, +that a continuation of the dispositions which have been hitherto +manifested towards us, will insure effects, political and commercial, of +value to both nations. + +I have had too many proofs of the friendly interest your Excellency is +pleased to take in whatever may strengthen the bands and connect the +views of the two countries, to doubt your patronage of the present +application; or to pretermit any occasion of repeating assurances of +those sentiments of high respect and esteem, with which I have the honor +to be + +your Excellency's most obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CX.--TO JOHN JAY, November 3, 1787 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, November 3, 1787. + +Sir, + +My last letters to you were of the 8th and 27th of October. In the +former? I mentioned to you the declaration of this country, that they +would interpose with force, if the Prussian troops entered Holland; the +entry of those troops into Holland; the declaration of England, that if +France did oppose force, they would consider it as an act of war; the +naval armaments on both sides; the nomination of the Bailli de Suffrein +as Generalissimo on the ocean; and the cold reception of Mr. Grenville +here, with his conciliatory propositions, as so many symptoms which +seemed to indicate a certain and immediate rupture. It was indeed +universally and hourly expected. But the king of Prussia, a little +before these last events, got wind of the alliance on the carpet between +France and the two empires: he awaked to the situation in which +that would place him: he made some application to the court of St. +Petersburg, to divert the Empress from the proposed alliance, and +supplicated the court of London not to abandon him. That court had also +received a hint of the same project; both seemed to suspect, for the +first time, that it would be possible for France to abandon the Turks, +and that they were likely to get more than they had played for at +Constantinople: for they had meant nothing more there, than to divert +the Empress and Emperor from the affairs of the west, by employing them +in the east, and, at the same time, to embroil them with France as +the patroness of the Turks. The court of London engaged not to +abandon Prussia: but both of them relaxed a little the tone of their +proceedings. The King of Prussia sent a Mr. Alvensleben here, expressly +to explain and soothe: the King of England, notwithstanding the cold +reception of his propositions by Grenville, renewed conferences here +through Eden and the Duke of Dorset. The minister, in the affection of +his heart for peace, readily joined in conference, and a declaration and +counter-declaration were cooked up at Versailles, and sent to London for +approbation. They were approved, arrived here at one o'clock the 27th, +were signed that night at Versailles, and on the next day, I had the +honor of enclosing them to you, under cover to the Count de Moustier, +whom I supposed still at Brest, dating my letter as of the 27th, by +mistake for the 28th. Lest, however, these papers should not have got to +Brest before the departure of the Count de Moustier, I now enclose you +other copies. The English declaration states a notification of this +court, in September, by Barthelemy, their minister at London, 'that +they would send succors into Holland,' as the first cause of England's +arming; desires an explanation of the intentions of this court, as to +the affairs of Holland, and proposes to disarm; on condition, however, +that the King of France shall not retain any hostile views in any +quarter, for what has been done in Holland. This last phrase was to +secure Prussia, according to promise. The King of France acknowledges +the notification by his minister at London, promises he will do nothing +in consequence of it, declares he has no intention to intermeddle with +force in the affairs of Holland, and that he will entertain hostile +views in no quarter, for what has been done there. He disavows having +ever had any intention to interpose with force in the affairs of that +republic. This disavowal begins the sentence, which acknowledges he had +notified the contrary to the court of London, and it includes no apology +to soothe the feelings which may be excited in the breasts of the +Patriots of Holland, at hearing the King declare he never did intend to +aid them with force, when promises to do this were the basis of those +very attempts to better their constitution, which have ended in its +ruin, as well as their own. + +I have analyzed these declarations, because, being somewhat wrapped up +in their expressions, their full import might escape, on a transient +reading; and it is necessary it should not escape. It conveys to us the +important lesson, that no circumstances of morality, honor, interest, or +engagement, are sufficient to authorize a secure reliance on any nation, +at all times, and in all positions. A moment of difficulty, or a moment +of error, may render for ever useless the most friendly dispositions +in the King, in the major part of his ministers, and the whole of his +nation. The present pacification is considered by most, as only a short +truce. They calculate on the spirit of the nation, and not on the aged +hand which guides its movements. It is certain, that from this moment +the whole system of Europe changes. Instead of counting together +England, Austria, and Russia, as heretofore, against France, Spain, +Holland, Prussia, and Turkey, the division will probably be, England, +Holland, and Prussia, against France, Austria, Russia, and perhaps +Spain. This last power is not sure, because the dispositions of its heir +apparent are not sure. But whether the present be truce or peace, it +will allow time to mature the conditions of the alliance between France +and the two empires, always supposed to be on the carpet. It is thought +to be obstructed by the avidity of the Emperor, who would swallow a good +part of Turkey, Silesia, Bavaria, and the rights of the Germanic body. +To the two or three first articles, France might consent, receiving in +gratification a well rounded portion of the Austrian Netherlands, with +the islands of Candia, Cyprus, Rhodes, and perhaps Lower Egypt. But +all this is in embryo, uncertainly known, and counterworked by the +machinations of the courts of London and Berlin. The following solution +of the British armaments is supposed in a letter of the 25th ultimo, +from Colonel Blachden of Connecticut, now at Dunkirk, to the Marquis +de la Fayette. I will cite it in his own words. "A gentleman who left +London two days ago, and came to this place to-day, informs me that +it is now generally supposed that Mr. Pitt's great secret, which has +puzzled the whole nation so long, and to accomplish which design, the +whole force of the nation is armed, is to make a vigorous effort for +the recovery of America. When I recollect the delay they have made in +delivering the forts in America, and that little more than a year ago, +one of the British ministry wrote to the King a letter, in which were +these remarkable words, 'If your Majesty pleases, America may yet be +yours;' add to this, if it were possible for the present ministry in +England to effect such a matter, they would secure their places and +their power for a long time, and should they fail in the end, they would +be certain of holding them during the attempt, which it is in their +power to prolong as much as they please, and at all events, they would +boast of having endeavored the recovery of what a former ministry had +abandoned, it is possible." A similar surmise has come in a letter from +a person in Rotterdam to one at this place. I am satisfied that the +King of England believes the mass of our people to be tired of their +independence, and desirous of returning under his government; and that +the same opinion prevails in the ministry and nation. They have hired +their news-writers to repeat this lie in their gazettes so long, that +they have become the dupes of it themselves. But there is no occasion +to recur to this, in order to account for their arming. A more rational +purpose avowed, that purpose executed, and when executed, a solemn +agreement to disarm, seem to leave no doubt, that the re-establishment +of the Stadtholder was their object. Yet it is possible, that having +found that this court will not make war in this moment for any ally, new +views may arise, and they may think the moment favorable for executing +any purposes they may have, in our quarter. Add to this, that reason is +of no aid in calculating their movements. We are, therefore, never safe +till our magazines are filled with arms. The present season of truce, or +peace, should, in my opinion, be improved without a moment's respite, +to effect this essential object, and no means be omitted, by which money +may be obtained for the purpose. I say this, however, with due deference +to the opinion of Congress, who are better judges of the necessity and +practicability of the measure. + +I mentioned to you, in a former letter, the application I had made to +the Dutch ambassadors and Prussian envoy, for the protection of Mr. +Dumas. The latter soon after received an assurance, that he was put +under the protection of the States of Holland; and the Dutch ambassador +called on me a few days ago, to inform me, by instruction from +his constituents, 'that the States General had received a written +application from Mr. Adams, praying their protection of Dumas: that they +had instructed their greffier, Fagel, to assure Mr. Adams, by letter, +that he was under the protection of the States of Holland; but to inform +him, at the same time, that Mr. Dumas's conduct, out of the line of +his office, had been so extraordinary, that they would expect _de +l'honnetete de Mr. Adams_, that he would charge some other person with +the affairs of the United States, during his absence.' + +Your letter, of September the 8th, has been duly received. I shall pay +due attention to the instructions relative to the medals, and give any +aid I can, in the case of Boss's vessel. As yet, however, my endeavors +to find _Monsieur Pauly, avocat au conseil d'etat, rue Coquilliere_, +have been ineffectual. There is no such person living in that street. +I found a _Monsieur Pauly, avocat au parlement_, in another part of +the town; he opened the letter, but said it could not mean him. I shall +advertise in the public papers. If that fails, there will be no other +chance of finding him. Mr. Warnum will do well, therefore, to send some +other description by which the person may be found. Indeed some friend +of the party interested should be engaged to follow up this business, +as it will require constant attention, and probably a much larger sum of +money than that named in the bill inclosed in Mr. Warnum's letter. + +I have the honor to enclose you a letter from O'Bryan to me, containing +information from Algiers, and one from Mr. Montgomery at Alicant. +The purpose of sending you this last, is to show you how much the +difficulties of ransom are increased since the Spanish negotiations. +The Russian captives have cost about eight thousand livres apiece, on an +average. I certainly have no idea that we should give any such sum; and, +therefore, if it should be the sense of Congress to give such a price, I +would be glad to know it by instruction. My idea is, that we should not +ransom but on the footing of the nation which pays least, that it may be +as little worth their while to go in pursuit of us, as any nation. This +is cruelty to the individuals now in captivity, but kindness to the +hundreds that would soon be so, were we to make it worth the while of +those pirates to go out of the Streights, in quest of us. As soon as +money is provided, I shall put this business into train. I have taken +measures to damp, at Algiers, all expectations of our proposing to +ransom, at any price. I feel the distress which this must occasion to +our countrymen there, and their connections; but the object of it is +their ultimate good, by bringing down their holders to such a price as +we ought to pay, instead of letting them remain in such expectations as +cannot be gratified. The gazettes of France and Leyden accompany this. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + [The annexed are translations of the declaration and + counter-declaration, referred to in the preceding letter.] + +DECLARATION. + +The events which have taken place in the republic of the United +Provinces appearing no longer to leave any subject of discussion, and +still less of dispute, between the two courts, the undersigned are +authorized to ask, if it be the intention of his Most Christian Majesty +to act in pursuance of the notification given, on the 16th of last +month, by the Minister Plenipotentiary of his Most Christian Majesty, +which, announcing his purpose of aiding Holland, has occasioned maritime +armaments on the part of his Majesty, which armaments have become +reciprocal. + +If the court of Versailles is disposed to explain itself on this +subject, and on the conduct adopted towards the republic, in a manner +conformably to the desire, evinced by each party, to preserve a good +understanding between the two courts, it being also understood, at +the same time, that no hostile view is entertained, in any quarter, +in consequence of the past; his Majesty, always eager to manifest his +concurrence in the friendly sentiments of his Most Christian Majesty, +agrees forthwith that the armaments, and, in general, all preparations +for war, shall be mutually discontinued, and that the marines of the two +nations shall be placed on the footing of a peace establishment, such as +existed on the first of January of the present year. + +Signed. Dorset Wm. Eden. + +At Versailles, the 27th of October, 1787. + + +COUNTER-DECLARATION. + +It neither being, nor ever having been, the intention of his Majesty +to interpose by force in the affairs of the republic of the United +Provinces, the communication made to the court of London by M. +Barthelemy having had no other object than to announce to that court an +intention, the motives of which no longer-exist, especially since the +King of Prussia has made known his resolution, his Majesty makes no +difficulty in declaring, that he has no wish to act in pursuance of the +communication aforesaid, and that he entertains no hostile view in any +quarter, relative to what has passed in Holland. + +Consequently, his Majesty, desiring to concur in the sentiments of his +Britannic Majesty, for the preservation of a good understanding between +the two courts, consents with pleasure to the proposition of his +Britannic Majesty, that the armaments, and, in general, all preparations +for war, shall be mutually discontinued, and that the marines of the two +nations shall be replaced upon the footing of the peace establishment, +as it existed on the first day of January of the present year. + +Signed. Montmorin. + +At Versailles, the 27th of October, 1787. + + + + +LETTER CXI.--TO JOHN JAY, November 3, 1787 + +TO JOHN JAY. + +(Private.) Paris, November 3, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I shall take the liberty of confiding sometimes to a private letter, +such details of the small history of the court or cabinet, as may be +worthy of being known, and yet not proper to be publicly communicated. +I doubt whether the administration is yet in a permanent form. The Count +de Montmorin and Baron de Breteuil are, I believe, firm enough in their +places. It was doubted whether they would wait for the Count de la +Luzerne, if the war had taken place: but at present I suppose they will. +I wish it also, because M. de Hector, his only competitor, has on some +occasions shown little value for the connection with us. Lambert, the +Comptroller General, is thought to be very insecure. I should be sorry +also to lose him. I have worked several days with him, the Marquis de +la Fayette, and Monsieur du Pont (father of the young gentleman gone to +America with the Count de Moustier), to reduce into one _Arret_ whatever +concerned our commerce. I have found him a man of great judgment and +application, possessing good general principles on subjects of commerce, +and friendly dispositions towards us. He passed the _Arret_ in a very +favorable form, but it has been opposed in the Council, and will, +I fear, suffer some alteration in the article of whale-oil. That +of tobacco, which was put into a separate instrument, experiences +difficulties also, which do not come from him. M. du Pont has rendered +us essential services on these occasions. I wish his son could be so +well noticed, as to make a favorable report to his father; he would, I +think, be gratified by it, and his good dispositions be strengthened, +and rendered further useful to us. Whether I shall be able to send you +these regulations by the present packet, will depend on their getting +through the Council in time. The Archbishop continues well with his +patroness. Her object is, a close connection with her brother. I suppose +he convinces her, that peace will furnish the best occasion of cementing +that connection. + +It may not be uninstructive to give you the origin and nature of +his influence with the Queen. When the Duke de Choiseul proposed the +marriage of the Dauphin with this lady, he thought it proper to send a +person to Vienna, to perfect her in the language. He asked his friend, +the Archbishop of Toulouse, to recommend to him a proper person. He +recommended a certain Abbe. The Abbe, from his first arrival at Vienna, +either tutored by his patron, or prompted by gratitude, impressed on +the Queen's mind the exalted talents and merit of the Archbishop, and +continually represented him as the only man fit to be placed at the helm +of affairs. On his return to Paris, being retained near the person of +the Queen, he kept him constantly in her view. The Archbishop was named +of the _Assembly des Notables_, had occasion enough there to prove his +talents, and Count de Vergennes, his great enemy, dying opportunely, the +Queen got him into place. He uses the Abbe even yet, for instilling all +his notions into her mind. That he has imposing talents and patriotic +dispositions, I think is certain. Good judges think him a theorist only, +little acquainted with the details of business, and spoiling all his +plans by a bungled execution. He may perhaps undergo a severe trial. His +best actions are exciting against him a host of enemies, particularly +the reduction of the pensions, and reforms in other branches of economy. +Some think the other ministers are willing he should stay in, till he +has effected this odious, yet necessary work, and that they will then +make him the scape-goat of the transaction. The declarations too, which +I send you in my public letter, if they should become public, will +probably raise an universal cry. It will all fall on him, because +Montmorin and Breteuil say, without reserve, that the sacrifice of the +Dutch has been against their advice. He will, perhaps, not permit these +declarations to appear in this country. They are absolutely unknown: +they were communicated to me by the Duke of Dorset, and I believe no +other copy has been given here. They will be published doubtless in +England, as a proof of their triumph, and may from thence make their way +into this country. If the Premier can stem a few months, he may remain +long in office, and will never make war if he can help it. If he should +be removed, the peace will probably be short. He is solely chargeable +with the loss of Holland. True, they could not have raised money by +taxes to supply the necessities of war; but could they do it were their +finances ever so well arranged? No nation makes war now-a-days, but by +the aid of loans: and it is probable, that in a war for the liberties +of Holland, all the treasures of that country would have been at their +service. They have now lost the cow which furnishes the milk of war. +She will be on the side of their enemies, whenever a rupture shall +take place: and no arrangement of their finances can countervail this +circumstance. + +I have no doubt, you permit access to the letters of your foreign +ministers, by persons only of the most perfect trust. It is in the +European system to bribe the clerks high, in order to obtain copies +of interesting papers. I am sure you are equally attentive to the +conveyance of your letters to us, as you know that all are opened that +pass through any post-office of Europe. Your letters which come by the +packet, if put into the mail at New York, or into the post-office at +Havre, wear proofs that they have been opened. The passenger to whom +they are confided, should be cautioned always to keep them in his own +hands, till he can deliver them personally in Paris. + +I have the honor to be, with very sincere esteem and respect, Dear Sir, +your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXII.--TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN, November 6, 1787 + +TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN. + + +Sir, + +Paris, November 6, 1787. + +I take the liberty of asking your Excellency's perusal of the enclosed +case of an American hostage, confined in the prisons of Dunkirk. His +continuance there seems to be useless, and yet endless. Not knowing how +far the government can interfere for his relief, as it is a case wherein +private property is concerned, I do not presume to ask his liberation +absolutely: but I will solicit from your Excellency such measures in his +behalf, as the laws and usages of the country may permit. + +The Comptroller General having been so good as to explain to me in a +conversation, that he wished to know what duties were levied in England +on American whale-oil, I have had the honor of informing him by letter, +that the ancient duties on that article are seventeen pounds, six +shillings, and six pence, sterling, the ton, and that some late +additional duties make them amount to about eighteen pounds sterling. +That the common whale-oil sells there but for about twenty pounds +sterling, the ton, and of course the duty amounts to a prohibition. This +duty was originally laid on all foreign fish-oil, with a view to favor +the British and American fisheries. When we became independent, and of +course foreign to Great Britain, we became subject to the foreign +duty. No duty, therefore, which France may think proper to lay on this +article, can drive it to the English market. It could only oblige the +inhabitants of Nantucket to abandon their fishery. But the poverty +of their soil offering them no other resource, they must quit their +country, and either establish themselves in Nova Scotia, where, as +British fishermen, they may participate of the British premium, in +addition to the ordinary price of their whale-oil, or they must accept +the conditions which this government offers, for the establishment they +have proposed at Dunkirk. Your Excellency will judge, what conditions +may counterbalance, in their minds, the circumstances of the vicinity +of Nova Scotia, sameness of langague,[sp.] laws, religion, customs, +and kindred. Remaining in their native country, to which they are most +singularly attached, excluded from commerce with England, taught to look +to France as the only country from which they can derive sustenance, +they will, in case of war, become useful rovers against its enemies. +Their position, their poverty, their courage, their address, and their +hatred, will render them formidable scourges on the British commerce. +It is to be considered then, on the one hand, that the duty which M. de +Calonne had proposed to retain on their oil, may endanger the shifting +this useful body of seamen out of our joint scale into that of the +British; and also may suppress a considerable subject of exchange for +the productions of France: on the other hand, that it may produce an +addition to his Majesty's revenue. What I have thus far said, is on +the supposition, that the duty may operate a diminution of the price +received by the fishermen. If it act in the contrary direction, and +produce an augmentation of price to the consumer, it immediately brings +into competition a variety of other oils, vegetable and animal, a good +part of which France receives from abroad, and the fisherman, thus +losing his market, is compelled equally to change either his calling or +country. When M. de Calonne first agreed to reduce the duties to what he +has declared, I had great hopes the commodity could bear them, and +that it would become a medium of commerce between France and the United +States. I must confess, however, that my expectations have not been +fulfilled, and that but little has come here as yet. This induces me +to fear, that it is so poor an article, that any duty whatever will +suppress it. Should this take place, and the spirit of emigration once +seize those people, perhaps an abolition of all duty might then come too +late to stop, what it would now easily prevent. I fear there is danger +in the experiment; and it remains for the wisdom of his Majesty and his +ministers to decide, whether the prospect of gain to the revenue, or +establishing a national fishery, may compensate this danger. If the +government should decide to retain the duty, I shall acquiesce in it +cheerfully, and do every thing in my power to encourage my countrymen +still to continue their occupation. + +The actual session of our several legislatures would render it +interesting to forward immediately the regulations proposed on our +commerce; and the expiration of the order of Bernis, at the close of +this month, endangers a suspension and derangement in the commerce of +tobacco, very embarrassing to the merchants of the two countries. +Pardon me therefore, Sir, if I appear solicitous to obtain the ultimate +decision of his Majesty's Council on these subjects, and to ask as early +a communication of that decision, as shall be convenient. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most profound esteem and +respect, your Excellency's most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXIII.--TO JOHN ADAMS, November 13, 1787 + + +TO JOHN ADAMS. + +Paris, November 13, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +This will be delivered you by young Mr. Rutledge. Your knowledge of his +father will introduce him to your notice. He merits it, moreover, on his +own account. + +I am now to acknowledge your favors of October the 8th and 26th. That of +August the 25th was duly received, nor can I recollect by what accident +I was prevented from acknowledging it in mine of September the 28th. It +has been the source of my subsistence hitherto, and must continue to +be so, till I receive letters on the affairs of money from America. Van +Staphorsts and Willinks have answered my drafts. Your books for Marquis +de la Fayette are received here. I will notify it to him, who is at +present with his Provincial Assembly in Auvergne. + +Little is said lately of the progress of the negotiations between +the courts of Petersburg, Vienna, and Versailles. The distance of the +former, and the cautious, unassuming character of its minister here, +is one cause of delays: a greater one is, the greediness and instable +character of the Emperor. Nor do I think that the Principal here, +will be easily induced to lend himself to any connection, which shall +threaten a war within a considerable number of years. His own reign +will be that of peace only, in all probability; and were any accident +to tumble him down, this country would immediately gird on its sword and +buckler, and trust to occurrences for supplies of money. The wound their +honor has sustained, festers in their hearts; and it may be said with +truth, that the Archbishop and a few priests, determined to support his +measures, because proud to see their order come again into power, are +the only advocates for the line of conduct which has been pursued. It is +said, and believed through Paris literally, that the Count de +Montmorin '_pleuroit comme un enfant_,' when obliged to sign the +counter-declaration. Considering the phrase as figurative, I believe it +expresses the distress of his heart. Indeed, he has made no secret of +his individual opinion. In the mean time, the Principal goes on with +a firm and patriotic spirit in reforming the cruel abuses of the +government, and preparing a new constitution, which will give to this +people as much liberty as they are capable of managing. This, I think, +will be the glory of his administration, because, though a good theorist +in finance, he is thought to execute badly. They are about to open a +loan of one hundred millions to supply present wants, and it is said, +the preface of the _Arret_ will contain a promise of the convocation of +the States General during the ensuing year. Twelve or fifteen Provincial +Assemblies are already in action, and are going on well: and I think, +that, though the nation suffers in reputation, it will gain infinitely +in happiness under the present administration. I enclose to Mr. Jay a +pamphlet, which I will beg of you to forward. I leave it open for your +perusal. When you shall have read it, be so good as to stick a wafer in +it. It is not yet published, nor will be for some days. This copy has +been ceded to me as a favor. + +How do you like our new constitution? I confess there are things in it, +which stagger all my dispositions to subscribe to what such an Assembly +has proposed. The House of federal representatives will not be adequate +to the management of affairs, either foreign or federal. Their President +seems a bad edition of a Polish King. He may be elected from four years +to four years, for life. Reason and experience prove to us, that a +chief magistrate, so continuable, is an office for life. When one or +two generations shall have proved, that this is an office for life, it +becomes, on every succession, worthy of intrigue, of bribery, of force, +and even of foreign interference. It will be of great consequence to +France and England, to have America governed by a Galloman or Angloman. +Once in office, and possessing the military force of the Union, without +the aid or check of a council, he would not be easily dethroned, even +if the people could be induced to withdraw their votes from him. I wish +that at the end of the four years, they had made him for ever ineligible +a second time. Indeed, I think all the good of this new constitution +might have been couched in three or four new articles to be added to the +good, old, and venerable fabric, which should have been preserved even +as a religious relique. Present me and my daughters affectionately to +Mrs. Adams. The younger one continues to speak of her warmly. Accept +yourself assurances of the sincere esteem and respect, with which I have +the honor to be, Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXIV.--TO COLONEL SMITH, November 13, 1787 + + +TO COLONEL SMITH. + +Paris, November 13, 1787. + +Sir, + +I am now to acknowledge the receipt of your favors of October the +4th, 8th, and 26th. In the last, you apologize for your letters of +introduction to Americans coming here. It is so far from needing apology +on your part, that it calls for thanks on mine. I endeavor to show +civilities to all the Americans who come here, and who will give me +opportunities of doing it: and it is a matter of comfort to know, from +a good quarter, what they are, and how far I may go in my attentions to +them. + +Can you send me Woodmason's bills for the two copying presses, for the +Marquis de la Fayette and the Marquis de Chastellux? The latter makes +one article in a considerable account, of old standing, and which I +cannot present for want of this article. I do not know whether it is +to yourself or Mr. Adams I am to give my thanks for the copy of the new +constitution. I beg leave, through you, to place them where due. It will +yet be three weeks before I shall receive them from America. There +are very good articles in it; and very bad. I do not know which +preponderate. What we have lately read in the history of Holland, in +the chapter on the Stadtholder, would have sufficed to set me against +a chief magistrate eligible for a long duration, if I had ever been +disposed towards one: and what we have always read of the elections of +Polish Kings, should have for ever excluded the idea of one continuable +for life. Wonderful is the effect of impudent and persevering lying. +The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat, and +model into every form, lies about our being in anarchy, that the world +has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, +the ministers themselves have come to believe them, and what is more +wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy +exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of +Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of rebellion so +honorably conducted? I say nothing of its motives. They were founded in +ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid, we should ever be twenty years +without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well +informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to +the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under +such misconceptions, it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the +public liberty. We have had thirteen States independent for eleven +years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a +century and a half for each State. What country before ever existed a +century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve +its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this +people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy +is to set them right as to facts, pardon, and pacify them. What signify +a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be +refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It +is its natural manure. Our convention has been too much impressed by the +insurrection of Massachusetts: and on the spur of the moment, they are +setting up a kite to keep the hen-yard in order. I hope in God, this +article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted. You +ask me, if any thing transpires here on the subject of South America? +Not a word. I know that there are combustible materials there, and +that they wait the torch only. But this country probably will join +the extinguishers. The want of facts worth communicating to you, +has occasioned me to give a little loose to dissertation. We must be +contented to amuse, when we cannot inform. + +Present my respects to Mrs. Smith, and be assured of the sincere esteem +of, Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXV.--TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL, December 11, 1787 + + +TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL. + +Paris, December 11, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I am later in acknowledging the receipt of your favors of October the +15th, and November the 5th and 15th, because we have been long expecting +a packet, which I hoped would bring communications worth detailing to +you; and she arrived only a few days ago, after a very long passage +indeed. I am very sorry you have not been able to make out the cipher +of my letter of September the 25th, because it contained things which +I wished you to know at that time. They have lost now a part of their +merit; * but still I wish you could decipher them, as there remains +a part, which it might yet be agreeable to you to understand. I have +examined the cipher, from which it was written. It as precisely a copy +of those given to Messrs. Barclay and Lambe. In order that you may +examine whether yours corresponds, I will now translate into cipher, the +three first lines of my letter of June the 14th. + +***** + +This will serve to show, whether your cipher corresponds with mine, as +well as my manner of using it. But I shall not use it in future, till I +know from you the result of your re-examination of it. I have the honor +now, to return you the letter you had been so good as to enclose to me. +About the same time of Liston's conversation with you, similar ones were +held with me by Mr. Eden. He particularly questioned me on the effect +of our treaty with France, in the case of a war, and what might be our +dispositions. I told him without hesitation, that our treaty obliged +us to receive the armed vessels of France, with their prizes, into our +ports, and to refuse the admission of prizes made on her by her enemies; +that there was a clause by which we guarantied to France her American +possessions, and which might, perhaps, force us into the war, if these +were attacked. 'Then it will be war,' said he, 'for they will assuredly +be attacked.' I added, that our dispositions would be to be neutral, and +that I thought it the interest of both those powers that we should be +so, because it would relieve both from all anxiety as to the feeding +their West India islands, and England would, moreover, avoid a heavy +land war on our continent, which would cripple all her proceedings +elsewhere. He expected these sentiments from me personally, and he knew +them to be analogous to those of our country. We had often before had +occasions of knowing each other: his peculiar bitterness towards us +had sufficiently appeared, and I had never concealed from him, that I +considered the British as our natural enemies, and as the only nation +on earth, who wished us ill from the bottom of their souls. And I am +satisfied, that were our continent to be swallowed up by the ocean, +Great Britain would be in a bonfire from one end to the other. Mr. +Adams, as you know, has asked his recall. This has been granted, and +Colonel Smith is to return too; Congress having determined to put an end +to their commission at that court. I suspect and hope they will make no +new appointment. + +Our new constitution is powerfully attacked in the American newspapers. +The objections are, that its effect would be to form the thirteen States +into one; that, proposing to melt all down into one general government, +they have fenced the people by no declaration of rights; they have not +renounced the power of keeping a standing army; they have not secured +the liberty of the press; they have reserved the power of abolishing +trials by jury in civil cases; they have proposed that the laws of the +federal legislatures shall be paramount the laws and constitutions of +the States; they have abandoned rotation in office; and particularly +their President may be re-elected from four years to four years, for +life, so as to render him a King for life, like a King of Poland; and +they have not given him either the check or aid of a council. To these, +they add calculations of expense, &c. &.c. to frighten the people. You +will perceive that those objections are serious and some of them not +without foundation. The constitution, however, has been received with +a very general enthusiasm, and as far as can be judged from external +demonstrations, the bulk of the people are eager to adopt it. In the +eastern States, the printers will print nothing against it, unless the +writer subscribes his name. Massachusetts and Connecticut have called +conventions in January, to consider of it. In New York, there is a +division. The Governor (Clinton) is known to be hostile to it. Jersey, +it is thought, will certainly accept it. Pennsylvania is divided; and +all the bitterness of her factions has been kindled anew on it. But the +party in favor of it is strongest, both in and out of the legislature. +This is the party anciently of Morris, Wilson, &c., Delaware will do +what Pennsylvania shall do. Maryland is thought favorable to it; yet it +is supposed Chase and Paca will oppose it. As to Virginia, two of her +Delegates, in the first place, refused to sign it. These were Randolph, +the Governor, and George Mason. Besides these, Henry, Harrison, Nelson, +and the Lees are against it. General Washington will be for it, but it +is not in his character to exert himself much in the case. Madison +will be its main pillar; but though an immensely powerful one, it is +questionable whether he can bear the weight of such a host. So that the +presumption is, that Virginia will reject it. We know nothing of the +dispositions of the States south of this. Should it fall through, as is +possible, notwithstanding the enthusiasm with which it was received in +the first moment, it is probable that Congress will propose, that, the +objections which the people shall make to it being once known, another +convention shall be assembled, to adopt the improvements generally +acceptable, and omit those found disagreeable. In this way, union may +be produced under a happy constitution, and one which shall not be too +energetic, as are the constitutions of Europe. I give you these details, +because, possibly, you may not have received them all. The sale of our +western lands is immensely successful. Five millions of acres have been +sold at private sale, for a dollar an acre, in certificates; and at the +public sales, some of them had sold as high as two dollars and forty +cents the acre. The sales had not been begun two months. By these +means, taxes, &c. our domestic debt, originally twenty-eight millions +of dollars, was reduced, by the 1st day of last October, to twelve +millions, and they were then in treaty-for two millions of acres more, +at a dollar, private sale. Our domestic debt will thus be soon paid off, +and that done, the sales will go on for money, at a cheaper rate, no +doubt, for the payment of our foreign debt. The _petite guerre_, always +waged by the Indians, seems not to abate the ardor of purchase or +emigration. Kentucky is now counted at sixty thousand. Frankland is also +growing fast. + +I have been told, that the cutting through the Isthmus of Panama, which +the world has so often wished, and supposed practicable, has at times +been thought of by the government of Spain, and that they once proceeded +so far, as to have a survey and examination made of the ground; but +that the result was, either impracticability or too great difficulty. +Probably the Count de Campomanes, or Don Ulloa, can give you information +on this head. I should be exceedingly pleased to get as minute details +as possible on it, and even copies of the survey, report, &c. if they +could be obtained at a moderate expense. I take the liberty of asking +your assistance in this. + +I have the honor to be, with great respect and esteem, Sir, your most +obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXVI.--TO JOHN ADAMS + + +TO JOHN ADAMS. + +Paris, December 12, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +In the month of July, I received from Fiseaux & Co. of Amsterdam, a +letter notifying me that the principal of their loan to the United +States would become due the first day of January. I answered them that +I had neither powers nor information on the subject, but would transmit +their letter to the board of treasury. I did so, by the packet which +sailed from Havre, August the 10th. The earliest answer possible would +have been by the packet which arrived at Havre three or four days ago. +But by her I do not receive the scrip of a pen from any body. This makes +me suppose, that my letters are committed to Paul Jones, who was to sail +a week after the departure of the packet; and that possibly, he may be +the bearer of orders from the treasury, to repay Fiseaux' loan, with the +money you borrowed. But it is also possible, he may bring no order on +the subject. The slowness with which measures are adopted on our side +the water, does not permit us to count on punctual answers; but, on the +contrary, renders it necessary for us to suppose, in the present case, +that no orders will arrive in time, and to consider whether any thing, +and what, should be done. As it may be found expedient to transfer all +our foreign debts to Holland, by borrowing there, and as it may always +be prudent to preserve a good credit in that country, because we may +be forced into wars, whether we will or not, I should suppose it very +imprudent to suffer our credit to be annihilated, for so small a sum +as fifty-one thousand guelders. The injury will be greater too, in +proportion to the smallness of the sum; for they will ask, 'How can a +people be trusted for large sums, who break their faith for such small +ones?' You know best what effect it will have on the minds of the +money-lenders of that country, should we fail in this payment. You know +best also, whether it is practicable and prudent for us, to have this +debt paid without orders. I refer the matter, therefore, wholly to +your consideration, willing to participate with you in any risk and any +responsibility, which may arise. I think it one of those cases, where +it is a duty to risk one's self. You will perceive, by the enclosed, the +necessity of an immediate answer, and that, if you think any thing +can and should be done, all the necessary authorities from you should +accompany your letter. In the mean time, should I receive any orders +from the treasury by Paul Jones, I will pursue them, and consider +whatever you shall have proposed or done, as _non avenue_. + +I am, with much affection, Dear Sir, your most obedient and most humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXVII.--TO JAMES MADISON, December 20, 1787 + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, December 20, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +My last to you was of October the 8th, by the Count de Moustier. +Yours of July the 18th, September the 6th, and October the 24th, were +successively received, yesterday, the day before, and three or four +days before that. I have only had time to read the letters; the printed +papers communicated with them, however interesting, being obliged to lie +over till I finish my despatches for the packet, which despatches must +go from hence the day after to-morrow. I have much to thank you for; +first and most for the ciphered paragraph respecting myself. These +little informations are very material towards forming my own decisions. +I would be glad even to know, when any individual member thinks I have +gone wrong in any instance. If I know myself, it would not excite ill +blood in me, while it would assist to guide my conduct, perhaps to +justify it, and to keep me to my duty, alert. I must thank you too, for +the information in Thomas Burke's case; though you will have found by a +subsequent letter, that I have asked of you a further investigation of +that matter. It is to gratify the lady who is at the head of the convent +wherein my daughters are, and who, by her attachment and attention to +them, lays me under great obligations, I shall hope, therefore, still +to receive from you the result of all the further inquiries my +second letter had asked. The parcel of rice which you informed me had +miscarried, accompanied my letter to the Delegates of South Carolina. +Mr. Bourgoin was to be the bearer of both, and both were delivered +together into the hands of his relation here, who introduced him to +me, and who, at a subsequent moment, undertook to convey them to Mr. +Bourgoin. This person was an engraver, particularly recommended to +Dr. Franklin and Mr. Hopkinson. Perhaps he may have mislaid the little +parcel of rice among his baggage. I am much pleased, that the sale +of western lands is so successful. I hope they will absorb all the +certificates of our domestic debt speedily, in the first place, and that +then, offered for cash, they will do the same by our foreign ones. + +The season admitting only of operations in the cabinet, and these +being in a great measure secret, I have little to fill a letter, I +will therefore make up the deficiency, by adding a few words on the +constitution proposed by our convention. + +I like much the general idea of framing a government, which should go on +of itself, peaceably, without needing continual recurrence to the +State legislatures. I like the organization of the government into +legislative, judiciary, and executive. I like the power given the +legislature to levy taxes, and for that reason solely, I approve of the +greater House being chosen by the people directly. For though I think +a House, so chosen, will be very far inferior to the present Congress, +will be very illy qualified to legislate for the Union, for foreign +nations, &c.; yet this evil does not weigh against the good of +preserving inviolate the fundamental principle, that the people are +not to be taxed but by representitives[sp.] chosen immediately by +themselves. I am captivated by the compromise of the opposite claims of +the great and little States, of the latter to equal, and the former to +proportional influence. I am much pleased, too, with the substitution +of the method of voting by persons, instead of that of voting by States: +and I like the negative given to the Executive, conjointly with a third +of either House; though I should have liked it better, had the judiciary +been associated for that purpose, or invested separately with a similar +power. There are other good things of less moment. + +I will now tell you what I do not like. First, the omission of a bill of +rights, providing clearly, and without the aid of sophism, for freedom +of religion, freedom of the press, protection against standing armies, +restriction of monopolies, the eternal and unremitting force of the +_habeas corpus_ laws, and trials by jury in all matters of fact triable +by the laws of the land, and not by the laws of nations. To say, as Mr. +Wilson does, that a bill of rights was not necessary, because all is +reserved in the case of the general government which is not given, while +in the particular ones, all is given which is not reserved, might do +for the audience to which it was addressed: but it is surely a _gratis +dictum_, the reverse of which might just as well be said; and it is +opposed by strong inferences from the body of the instrument, as well as +from the omission of the clause of our present Confederation, which had +made the reservation in express terms. It was hard to conclude, because +there has been a want of uniformity among the States as to the cases +triable by jury, because some have been so incautious as to dispense +with this mode of trial in certain cases, therefore the more prudent +States shall be reduced to the same level of calamity. It would have +been much more just and wise to have concluded the other way, that as +most of the States had preserved with jealousy this sacred palladium of +liberty, those who had wandered, should be brought back to it: and to +have established general right rather than general wrong. For I consider +all the ill as established, which maybe established. I have a right to +nothing, which another has a right to take away; and Congress will have +a right to take away trials by jury in all civil cases. Let me add, +that a bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every +government on earth, general or particular; and what no just government +should refuse, or rest on inference. + +The second feature I dislike, and strongly dislike, is the abandonment, +in every instance, of the principle of rotation in office, and most +particularly in the case of the President. Reason and experience tell +us, that the first magistrate will always be re-elected if he may be +re-elected. He is then an officer for life. + +This once observed, it becomes of so much consequence to certain +nations, to have a friend or a foe at the head of our affairs, that they +will interfere with money and with arms. A Galloman, or an Angloman, +will be supported by the nation he befriends. If once elected, and at a +second or third election outvoted by one or two votes, he will pretend +false votes, foul play, hold possession of the reins of government, +be supported by the States voting for him, especially if they be the +central ones, lying in a compact body themselves, and separating their +opponents; and they will be aided by one nation in Europe, while the +majority are aided by another. The election of a President of America, +some years hence, will be much more interesting to certain nations of +Europe, than ever the election of a King of Poland was. Reflect on all +the instances in history, ancient and modern, of elective monarchies, +and say, if they do not give foundation for my fears; the Roman +Emperors, the Popes while they were of any importance, the German +Emperors till they became hereditary in practice, the Kings of Poland, +the Deys of the Ottoman dependencies. It may be said, that if elections +are to be attended with these disorders, the less frequently they +are repeated the better. But experience says, that to free them from +disorder, they must be rendered less interesting by a necessity of +change. No foreign power, nor domestic party, will waste their blood and +money to elect a person, who must go out at the end of a short period. +The power of removing every fourth year by the vote of the people, is +a power which they will not exercise, and if they were disposed +to exercise it, they would not be permitted. The King of Poland is +removable every day by the diet. But they never remove him. Nor would +Russia, the Emperor, &c. permit them to do it. Smaller objections are, +the appeals on matters of fact as well as law; and the binding all +persons, legislative, executive, and judiciary, by oath, to maintain +that constitution. I do not pretend to decide, what would be the best +method of procuring the establishment of the manifold good things in +this constitution, and of getting rid of the bad. Whether by adopting +it, in hopes of future amendment; or, after it shall have been duly +weighed and canvassed by the people, after seeing the parts they +generally dislike, and those they generally approve, to say to them, +'We see now what you wish. You are willing to give to your federal +government such and such powers: but you wish, at the same time, to have +such and such fundamental rights secured to you, and certain sources of +convulsion taken away. Be it so. Send together your deputies again. Let +them establish your fundamental rights by a sacrosanct declaration, and +let them pass the parts of the constitution you have approved. These +will give powers to your federal government sufficient for your +happiness.' This is what might be said, and would probably produce a +speedy, more perfect, and more permanent form of government. At all +events, I hope you will not be discouraged from making other trials, if +the present one should fail. We are never permitted to despair of +the commonwealth. I have thus told you freely what I like, and what I +dislike, merely as a matter of curiosity; for I know it is not in my +power to offer matter of information to your judgment, which has been +formed after hearing and weighing every thing which the wisdom of +man could offer on these subjects. I own, I am not a friend to a very +energetic government. It is always oppressive. It places the governors +indeed more at their ease, at the expense of the people. The late +rebellion in Massachusetts has given more alarm, than I think it should +have done. Calculate that one rebellion in thirteen States in the course +of eleven years, is but one for each State in a century and a half. No +country should be so long without one. Nor will any degree of power in +the hands of government prevent insurrections. In England, where the +hand of power is heavier than with us, there are seldom half a dozen +years without an insurrection. In France, Where it is still heavier, but +less despotic, as Montesquieu supposes, than in some other countries, +and where there are always two or three hundred thousand men ready to +crush insurrections, there have been three in the course of the three +years I have been here, in every one of which greater numbers were +engaged than in Massachusetts, and a great deal more blood was spilt. In +Turkey, where the sole nod of the despot is death, insurrections are the +events of every day. Compare again the ferocious depredations of +their insurgents, with the order, the moderation, and the almost +self-extinguishment of ours. And say, finally, whether peace is best +preserved by giving energy to the government, or information to the +people. This last is the most certain and the most legitimate engine of +government. Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. Enable them +to see that it is their interest to preserve peace and order, and they +will preserve them. And it requires no very high degree of education +to convince them of this. They are the only sure reliance for the +preservation of our liberty. After all, it is my principle that the +will of the majority should prevail. If they approve the proposed +constitution in all its parts, I shall concur in it cheerfully, in +hopes they will amend it, whenever they shall find it works wrong. This +reliance cannot deceive us, as long as we remain virtuous; and I think +we shall be so, as long as agriculture is our principal object, which +will be the case, while there remain vacant lands in any part of +America. When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in +Europe, we shall become corrupt as in Europe, and go to eating +one another as they do there. I have tired you by this time with +disquisitions which you have already heard repeated by others, a +thousand and a thousand times; and, therefore, shall only add assurances +of the esteem and attachment, with which I have the honor to be, Dear +Sir, your affectionate friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + +P. S. The instability of our laws is really an immense evil. I think it +would be well to provide in our constitutions, that there shall always +be a twelvemonth between the engrossing a bill and passing it: that it +should then be offered to its passage without changing a word: and that +if circumstances should be thought to require a speedier passage, it +should take two thirds of both Houses, instead of a bare majority. + + + + +LETTER CXVIII.--TO E. CARRINGTON, December 21, 1787 + + +TO E. CARRINGTON + +Paris, December 21, 1787. + +Dear Sir, + +I have just received your two favors of October the 23rd and November +the 10th. I am much obliged to you for your hints in the Danish +business. They are the only information I have on that subject, except +the resolution of Congress, and warn me of a rock on which I should most +certainly have split. The vote plainly points out an agent, only leaving +it to my discretion to substitute another. My judgment concurs with that +of Congress as to his fitness. But I shall inquire for the surest banker +at Copenhagen to receive the money, not because I should have had any +doubts, but because I am informed others have them. Against the failure +of a banker, were such an accident, or any similar one to happen, I +cannot be held accountable in a case, where I act without particular +interest. My principal idea in proposing the transfer of the French +debt, was, to obtain on the new loans a much longer day for the +reimbursement of the principal, hoping that the resources of the United +States could have been equal to the article of interest alone. But I +shall endeavor to quiet, as well as I can, those interested. A part of +them will probably sell out at any rate: and one great claimant may be +expected to make a bitter attack on our honor. I am very much pleased +to hear, that our western lands sell so successfully. I turn to this +precious resource, as that which will, in every event, liberate us from +our domestic debt, and perhaps too from our foreign one: and this, much +sooner than I had expected. I do not think any thing could have been +done with them in Europe. Individual speculators and sharpers had duped +so many with their unlocated land-warrants, that every offer would have +been suspected. + +As to the new constitution, I find myself nearly a neutral. There is a +great mass of good in it, in a very desirable form; but there is also, +to me, a bitter pill or two. I have written somewhat lengthily to Mr. +Madison on this subject, and will take the liberty to refer you to that +part of my letter to him. I will add one question to what I have said +there. Would it not have been better to assign to Congress exclusively, +the article of imposts for federal purposes, and to have left direct +taxation exclusively to the States? I should suppose the former fund +sufficient for all probable events, aided by the land office. + +The form which the affairs of Europe may assume, is not yet decipherable +by those out of the cabinet. The Emperor gives himself, at present, +the airs of a mediator. This is necessary to justify a breach with the +Porte. He has his eye at the same time on Germany, and particularly on +Bavaria, the Elector of which has, for a long time, been hanging over +the grave. Probably, France would now consent to the exchange of the +Austrian Netherlands, to be created into a kingdom for the Duke de +Deux-ponts, against the electorate of Bavaria. This will require a +war. The Empress longs for Turkey, and viewing France as her principal +obstacle, would gladly negotiate her acquiescence. To spur on this, she +is coquetting it with England. The King of Prussia, too, is playing +a double game between France and England. But I suppose the former +incapable of forgiving him, or of ever reposing confidence in him. +Perhaps the spring may unfold to us the final arrangement, which will +take place among the powers of this continent. + +I often doubt whether I should trouble Congress or my friends with these +details of European politics. I know they do not excite that interest +in America, of which it is impossible for one to divest himself here. I +know too, that it is a maxim with us, and I think it is a wise one, not +to entangle ourselves with the affairs of Europe. Still, I think, +we should know them. The Turks have practised the same maxim of not +meddling in the complicated wrangles of this continent. But they have +unwisely chosen to be ignorant of them also, and it is this total +ignorance of Europe, its combinations, and its movements, which exposes +them to that annihilation possibly about taking place. While there are +powers in Europe which fear our views, or have views on us, we should +keep an eye on them, their connections, and oppositions, that in a +moment of need, we may avail ourselves of their weakness with respect to +others as well as ourselves, and calculate their designs and movements, +on all the circumstances under which they exist. Though I am persuaded, +therefore, that these details are read by many with great indifference, +yet I think it my duty to enter into them, and to run the risk of giving +too much, rather than too little information. + +I have the honor to be, with perfect esteem and respect, Dear Sir, your +most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + +P. S. The resolution of Congress, relative to the prize money received +here, speaks of that money as paid to me. I hope this matter is properly +understood. The treasury board desired me to receive it, and apply it to +such and such federal purposes; and they would pay the dividends of +the claimants in America. This would save the expense of remittance. I +declined, however, receiving the money, and ordered it into the hands +of their banker, who paid it away for the purposes to which they had +destined it. I should be sorry an idea should get abroad, that I had +received the money of those poor fellows, and applied it to other +purposes. I shall, in like manner, order the Danish and Barbary money +into the hands of bankers, carefully avoiding ever to touch a sou of +it, or having any other account to make out than what the banker will +furnish. T. J. + + + + +LETTER CXIX.--TO MONSIEUR LIMOZIN, December 22, 1787 + + +TO MONSIEUR LIMOZIN. + +Paris, December 22, 1787. + +Sir, + +I have the honor now to acknowledge the receipt of your favors of the +18th and 19th of November, and two of the 18th of the present month. +I did not write to you immediately on the receipt of the two first, +because the observation they contained were to be acted on here. I +was much obliged to you for them, as I have been frequently before for +others, and you will find that I have profited by them in the _Arret_ +which is to come out for the regulation of our commerce, wherein most +of the things are provided for, which you have from time to time +recommended. With respect to the article of yellow wax, I think there +is a general clause in the _Arret_, which will take it in; but I am not +sure of it. If there be not, it is now too late to get any alteration +made. You shall receive the _Arret_ the moment it is communicated to me. + +I have examined the case of Captain Thomas, with all the dispositions +possible, to interpose for him. But on mature reflection, I find it is +one of those cases wherein my solicitation would be ill received. The +government of France, to secure to its subjects the carrying trade +between her colonies and the mother country, have made a law, forbidding +any foreign vessels to undertake to carry between them. Notwithstanding +this, an American vessel has undertaken, and has brought a cargo. For me +to ask that this vessel shall be received, would be to ask a repeal of +the law, because there is no more reason for receiving her, than there +will be for receiving the second, third, &c, which shall act against the +same law, nor for receiving an American vessel, more than the vessels of +other nations. Captain Thomas has probably engaged in this business, not +knowing the law; but ignorance of the law is no excuse, in any country. +If it were, the laws would lose their effect, because it can be always +pretended. Were I to make this application to the Comptroller General, +he might possibly ask me, whether, in a like case, of a French vessel in +America acting through ignorance, against law, we would suspend the law +as to her? I should be obliged honestly to answer, that with us there +is no power which can suspend the law for a moment; and Captain Thomas +knows that this answer would be the truth. The Senegal company seems to +be as much engaged in it as he is. I should suppose his most probable +means of extrication, would be with their assistance, and availing +himself of their privileges, and the apparent authority he has received +from the officers of government there. I am sorry his case is such a +one, as I cannot present to the minister. A jealousy of our taking +away their carrying trade, is the principal reason which obstructs our +admission into their West India islands. It would not be right for me to +strengthen that jealousy. + +I have the honor to be, with much esteem, Sir, your most obedient, +humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXX.--TO JOHN JAY, December 31, 1787 + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, December 31, 1787. + +Sir, + +Since the receipt of the letter of Monsieur de Calonne, of October the +22nd, 1786, I have several times had the honor of mentioning to you, +that I was endeavoring to get the substance of that letter reduced into +an _Arret_, which, instead of being revocable by a single letter of a +Comptroller General, would require an _Arret_ to repeal or alter it, and +of course must be discussed in full Council, and so give time to prevent +it. This has been pressed as much as it could be with prudence. One +cause of delay has been the frequent changes of the Comptroller General; +as we had always our whole work to begin again, with every new one. +Monsieur Lambert's continuance in office for some months has enabled us, +at length, to get through the business; and I have just received from +him a letter, and the _Arret_ duly authenticated; of which I have the +honor to send you a number of printed copies. You will find, that the +several alterations and additions are made, which, on my visit, to the +seaports, I had found to be necessary, and which my letters of June the +21st and August the 6th particularly mentioned to you. Besides these, +we have obtained some new articles of value, for which openings arose +in the course of the negotiation. I say we have done it, because +the Marquis de la Fayette has gone hand in hand with me through this +business, and has been a most invaluable aid. I take the liberty of +making some observations on the articles of the _Arret_, severally, for +their explanation, as well as for the information of Congress. + +Article 1. In the course of our conferences with the Comptroller +General, we had prevailed on him to pass this article with a suppression +of all duty. When he reported the _Arret_, however, to the Council, this +suppression was objected to, and it was insisted to re-establish the +duties of seven livres and ten sous, and of ten sous the livre, reserved +in the letter of M. de Calonne. The passage of the _Arret_ was stopped, +and the difficulty communicated to me. I urged every thing I could, +in letters and in conferences, to convince them that whale-oil was an +article which could bear no duty at all. That if the duty fell on the +consumer, he would choose to buy vegetable oils; if on the fisherman, he +could no longer live by his calling, remaining in his own country; +and that if he quitted his own country, the circumstances of vicinity, +sameness of language, laws, religion, and manners, and perhaps the +ties of kindred, would draw him to Nova Scotia, in spite of every +encouragement which could be given at Dunkirk; and that thus those +fishermen would be shifted out of a scale friendly to France, into one +always hostile. Nothing, however, could prevail. It hung on this article +alone, for two months, during which we risked the total loss of the +_Arret_ on the stability in office of Monsieur Lambert; for if he had +gone out, his successor might be less favorable; and if Monsieur Necker +were the successor, we might lose the whole, as he never set any +store by us, or the connection with us. About ten days ago, it became +universally believed that Monsieur Lambert was to go out immediately. +I therefore declined further insisting on the total suppression, and +desired the _Arret_ might pass, leaving the duties on whale-oil, as +Monsieur de Calonne had promised them; but with a reservation, which +may countenance our bringing on this matter again, at a more favorable +moment. + +Article 2. The other fish-oils are placed in a separate article; +because, whatever encouragements we may hereafter obtain for whale-oils, +they will not be extended to those which their own fisheries produce. + +Article 3. A company had silently, and by unfair means, obtained a +monopoly for the making and selling spermaceti candles: as soon as we +discovered it, we solicited its suppression, which is effected by this +clause. + +Article 4. The duty of an eighth per cent, is merely to oblige the +masters of vessels to enter their cargoes, for the information of +government; without inducing them to attempt to smuggle. + +Article 6. Tar, pitch, and turpentine of America, coming in competition +with the same articles produced in the southwestern parts of France, +we could obtain no greater reduction, than two and a half per cent. The +duties before were from four to six times that amount. + +Article 10. The right of _entrepot_, given by this article, is almost +the same thing, as the making all their ports, free ports for us. The +ships are indeed subject to be visited, and the cargoes must be reported +in ports of _entrepot_, which need not be done in the free ports. +But the communication between the _entrepot_ and the country is not +interrupted by continual search of all persons passing into the country, +which has proved so troublesome to the inhabitants of our free ports, +as that a considerable proportion of them have wished to give back the +privilege of their freedom. + +Article 13. This article gives us the privileges and advantages of +native subjects, in all their possessions in Asia, and in the scales +leading thereto. This expression means, at present, the isles of France +and Bourbon, and will include the Cape of Good Hope, should any future +event put it into the hands of France. It was with a view to this, that +I proposed the expression, because we were then in hourly expectation +of a war, and it was suspected that France would take possession of +that place. It will, in no case, be considered as including any thing +westward of the Cape of Good Hope. I must observe further, on this +article, that it will only become valuable, on the suppression of their +East India Company; because, as long as their monopoly continues, even +native subjects cannot enter their Asiatic ports, for the purposes of +commerce. It is considered, however, as certain, that this Company will +be immediately suppressed. + +The article of tobacco could not be introduced into the _Arret_; because +it was necessary to consider the Farmers General as parties to that +arrangement. It rests, therefore, of necessity, on the basis of a letter +only. You will perceive that this is nothing more than a continuation of +the order of Bernis, only leaving the prices unfixed; and like that, it +will require a constant and vexatious attention, to have its execution +enforced. + +The States who have much to carry, and few carriers, will observe, +perhaps, that the benefits of these regulations are somewhat narrowed, +by confining them to articles brought hither in French or American +bottoms. But they will consider, that nothing in these instruments moves +from us. The advantages they hold out are all given by this country to +us, and the givers will modify their gifts as they please. I suppose it +to be a determined principle of this court not to suffer our carrying +business, so far as their consumption of our commodities extends, +to become a nursery for British seamen. Nor would this, perhaps, be +advantageous to us, considering the dispositions of the two nations +towards us. The preference which our shipping will obtain on this +account, may counterpoise the discouragements it experiences from the +aggravated dangers of the Barbary States. Nor is the idea unpleasing, +which shows itself in various parts of these papers, of naturalizing +American bottoms, and American citizens in France and in its foreign +possessions. Once established here, and in their eastern settlements, +they may revolt less at the proposition to extend it to those westward. +They are not yet, however, at that point; we must be contented to go +towards it a step at a time, and trust to future events for hastening +our progress. + +With respect to the alliance between this and the two imperial courts, +nothing certain transpires. We are enabled to conjecture its progress, +only from facts which now and then show themselves. The following may be +considered as indications of it. 1. The Emperor has made an attempt to +surprise Belgrade. The attempt failed, but will serve to plunge him into +the war, and to show that he had assumed the character of mediator, only +to enable himself to gain some advantage by surprise. 2. The mediation +of France is probably at an end, and their abandonment of the Turks +agreed on; because they have secretly ordered their officers to quit the +Turkish service. This fact is known to but few, and not intended to be +known: but I think it certain. 3. To the offer of mediation lately made +by England and Prussia, the court of Petersburg answered, that having +declined the mediation of a friendly power (France), she could not +accept that of two courts, with whose dispositions she had reason to be +dissatisfied. 4. The States General are said to have instructed their +ambassador here, lately, to ask of M. de Montmorin, whether the inquiry +had been made, which they had formerly desired; 'By what authority the +French engineers had been placed in the service of Holland?' And that he +answered, that the inquiry had not been made, nor should be made. +Though I do not consider the channel through which I get this fact, +as absolutely sure, yet it is so respectable, that I give credit to it +myself. 5. The King of Prussia is withdrawing his troops from Holland. +Should this alliance show itself it would seem that France, thus +strengthened, might dictate the re-establishment of the affairs of +Holland, in her own form. For it is not conceivable, that Prussia would +dare to move, nor that England would alone undertake such a war, and +for such a purpose. She appears, indeed, triumphant at present; but the +question is, Who will triumph last? + +I enclose you a letter from Mr. Dumas. I received one from him myself, +wherein he assures me, that no difficulties shall be produced, by what +he had suggested relative to his mission to Brussels. The gazettes of +France and Leyden to this date accompany this letter, which, with the +several papers put under your cover, I shall send to M. Limozin, our +agent at Havre, to be forwarded by the Juno, Captain Jenkins, which +sails from that port for New York, on the 3d of January. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXI.--TO MONSIEUR LAMBERT, January 3, 1788 + + +TO MONSIEUR LAMBERT. + +Paris, January 3, 1788. + +Sir, + +I am honored with your Excellency's letter of the 29th of December, +enclosing the _Arret_ on the commerce between France and the United +States. I availed myself of the occasion of a vessel sailing this day +from Havre for New York, to forward it to Congress. They will receive +with singular satisfaction, this new testimony of his Majesty's +friendship for the United States, of his dispositions to promote their +interest, and to strengthen the bands which connect the two nations. + +Permit me, Sir, to return you, personally, my sincere thanks for the +great attention you have paid to this subject, for the sacrifices you +have kindly made of a time so precious as yours, every moment of which +is demanded and is occupied by objects interesting to the happiness of +millions; and to proffer you the homage of those sincere sentiments +of attachment and respect, with which I have the honor to be, your +Excellency's most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXII.--TO LE COMTE BERNSTORFF, January 21, 1788 + + +TO LE COMTE BERNSTORFF, _Minister of Foreign Affairs, Copenhagen_. + +Paris, January 21, 1788. + +Sir, + +I am instructed by the United States of America, in Congress assembled, +to bring again under the consideration of his Majesty, the King of +Denmark, and of his ministers, the case of the three prizes taken from +the English during the late war, by an American squadron under the +command of Commodore Paul Jones, put into Bergen in distress, there +rescued from our possession by orders from the court of Denmark, +and delivered back to the English. Dr. Franklin, then Minister +Plenipotentiary from the United States at the court of Versailles, had +the honor of making applications to the court of Denmark, for a just +indemnification to the persons interested, and particularly by a letter +of the 22nd of December, 1779, a copy of which I have now the honor of +enclosing to your Excellency. In consequence of this, the sum of ten +thousand pounds was proposed to him, as an indemnification, through +the Baron de Waltersdorff, then at Paris. The departure of both those +gentlemen from this place, soon after, occasioned an intermission in +the correspondence on this subject. But the United States continue to +be very sensibly affected by this delivery of their prizes to Great +Britain, and the more so, as no part of their conduct had forfeited +their claim to those rights of hospitality, which civilized nations +extend to each other. Not only a sense of justice due to the individuals +interested in those prizes, but also an earnest desire that no subject +of discontent may check the cultivation and progress of that friendship, +which they wish may subsist and increase between the two countries, +prompt them to remind his Majesty of the transaction in question; and +they flatter themselves, that his Majesty will concur with them in +thinking, that as restitution of the prizes is not practicable, it is +reasonable and just that he should render, and that they should accept, +a compensation equivalent to the value of them. And the same principles +of justice towards the parties, and of amity to the United States, +which influenced the breast of his Majesty to make, through the Baron de +Waltersdorff, the proposition of a particular sum, will surely lead him +to restore their full value, if that were greater, as is believed, than +the sum proposed. In order to obtain, therefore, a final arrangement of +this demand, Congress have authorized me to depute a special agent to +Copenhagen, to attend the pleasure of his Majesty. No agent could be so +adequate to this business, as the Commodore Paul Jones, who commanded +the squadron which took the prizes. He will therefore have the honor +of delivering this letter to your Excellency, in person; of giving such +information as may be material, relative to the whole transaction; of +entering into conferences for its final adjustment; and being himself +principally interested, not only in his own right, but as the natural +patron of those who fought under him, whatever shall be satisfactory +to him, will have a great right to that ultimate approbation, which +Congress have been pleased to confide to me. + +I beg your Excellency to accept the homage of that respect, which your +exalted station, talents, and merit impress, as well as those sentiments +of esteem and regard, with which I have the honor to be + +Your Excellency's most obedient + +and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXIII.--TO WILLIAM RUTLEDGE, February 2, 1788 + + +TO WILLIAM RUTLEDGE. + +Paris, February 2, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +I should have sooner answered your favor of January the 2nd, but that we +have expected for some time, to see you here. I beg you not to think of +the trifle I furnished you with, nor to propose to return it, till you +shall have that sum more than you know what to do with. And on every +other occasion of difficulty, I hope you will make use of me freely. +I presume you will now remain at London, to see the trial of Hastings. +Without suffering yourself to be imposed on by the pomp in which it +will be enveloped, I would recommend to you to consider and decide for +yourself these questions. If his offence is to be decided by the law of +the land, why is he not tried in that court in which his fellow citizens +are tried, that is, the King's Bench? If he is cited before another +court, that he may be judged, not according to the law of the land, but +by the discretion of his judges, is he not disfranchised of his most +precious right, the benefit of the laws of his country, in common +with his fellow citizens? I think you will find, in investigating this +subject, that every solid argument is against the extraordinary court, +and that every one in its favor is specious only. It is a transfer from +a judicature of learning and integrity, to one, the greatness of which +is both illiterate and unprincipled. Yet such is the force of prejudice +with some, and of the want of reflection in others, that many of our +constitutions have copied this absurdity, without suspecting it to be +one. I am glad to hear that our new constitution is pretty sure of being +accepted by States enough to secure the good it contains, and to meet +with such opposition in some others, as to give us hopes it will be +accommodated to them, by the amendment of its most glaring faults, +particularly the want of a declaration of rights. + +The long expected edict for the Protestants at length appears here. +Its analysis is this. It is an acknowledgment (hitherto withheld by the +laws) that Protestants can beget children, and that they can die, and be +offensive unless buried. It does not give them permission to think, to +speak, or to worship. It enumerates the humiliations to which they shall +remain subject, and the burthens to which they shall continue to be +unjustly exposed. What are we to think of the condition of the human +mind in a country, where such a wretched thing as this has thrown the +State into convulsions, and how must we bless our own situation in a +country, the most illiterate peasant of which is a Solon, compared +with the authors of this law. There is modesty often, which does +itself injury; our countrymen possess this. They do not know their own +superiority. You see it; you are young, you have time and talents to +correct them. Study the subject while in Europe, in all the instances +which will present themselves to you, and profit your countrymen of +them, by making them to know and value themselves. + +Adieu, my dear Sir, and be assured of the esteem with which I am your +friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXIV.--TO THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE TREASURY, Feb. 7, 1788 + + +TO THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE TREASURY. + +Paris, February 7, 1788. + +Gentlemen, + +Your favors of November the 10th and 13th, and December the 5th, have +been duly received. Commodore Jones left this place for Copenhagen, +the 5th instant, to carry into execution the resolution of Congress, of +October the 25th. Whatever monies that court shall be willing to allow, +shall be remitted to your bankers, either in Amsterdam or Paris, as +shall be found most beneficial, allowing previously to be withdrawn +Commodore Jones's proportion, which will be necessary for his +subsistence. I desired him to endeavor to prevail on the Danish +minister, to have the money paid in Amsterdam or Paris, by their banker +in either of those cities, if they have one. + +M. Ast (secretary to the consulate) is at L'Orient. Whether he comes up +with the papers, or sends them, they shall be received, sealed up, and +taken care of. I will only ask the favor of you, that I may never be +desired to break the seals, unless very important cause for it should +arise. + +I have just received from Messrs. Willincks and Van Staphorsts, a +letter of January the 31st, in which are these words: 'The official +communication we have of the actual situation and prospect of the +finances of the United States, would render such a partial payment as +that to Fiseaux's house of no avail towards the support of the public +credit, unless effectual measures shall be adopted, to provide funds for +the two hundred and seventy thousand florins, interest, that will be due +the first of June next; a single day's retard in which would ground a +prejudice of long duration.' They informed me, at the same time, that +they have made to you the following communication; that Mr. Stanitski, +our principal broker, and holder of thirteen hundred and forty thousand +dollars, of certificates of our domestic debt, offers to have our loan +of a million of guilders (of which six hundred and twenty-two thousand +eight hundred and forty are still unfilled) immediately made up, on +condition that he may retain thereout one hundred and eighty thousand +guilders, being one year's interest on his certificates, allowing a +deduction of ten per cent, from his said interest, as a compensation +for his receiving it in Amsterdam instead of America, and not pretending +that this shall give him any title to ask any payment of future interest +in Europe. They observe, that this will enable them to face the demands +of Dutch interest, till the 1st of June, 1789, pay the principal of +Fiseaux' debt, and supply the current expenses of your legation in +Europe. On these points, it is for you to decide. I will only take the +liberty to observe, that if they shall receive your acceptance of the +proposition, some days credit will still be to be given for producing +the cash, and that this must be produced fifteen days before it is +wanting, because that much previous notice is always given to the +creditors, that their money is ready. It is, therefore, but three months +from this day, before your answer should be in Amsterdam. It might +answer a useful purpose also, could I receive a communication of that +answer ten days earlier than they. The same stagnation attending our +passage from the old to the new form of government, which stops the +feeble channel of money hitherto flowing towards our treasury, has +suspended also what foreign credit we had. So that, at this moment, we +may consider the progress of our loan as stopped. Though much an +enemy to the system of borrowing, yet I feel strongly the necessity of +preserving the power to borrow. Without this, we might be overwhelmed by +another nation, merely by the force of its credit. However, you can best +judge whether the payment of a single year's interest on Stanitski's +certificates, in Europe, instead of America, may be more injurious to +us than the shock of our credit in Amsterdam, which may be produced by a +failure to pay our interest. + +I have only to offer any services which I can render in this business, +either here or by going to Holland, at a moment's warning, if that +should be necessary. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Gentlemen, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXV.--TO DOCTOR PRICE, February 7, 1788 + + +TO DOCTOR PRICE. + +Paris, February 7, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +It is rendering mutual service to men of virtue and understanding, +to make them acquainted with one another. I need no other apology for +presenting to your notice the bearer hereof, Mr. Barlow. I know you +were among the first who read the "Vision of Columbus," while yet in +manuscript: and think the sentiments I heard you express of that poem, +will induce you to be pleased with the acquaintance of their author. He +comes to pass a few days only at London, merely to know something of it. +As I have little acquaintance there, I cannot do better for him than to +ask you to be so good as to make him known to such persons, as his turn +and his time might render desirable to him. + +I thank you for the volume you were so kind as to send me some time +ago. Every thing you write is precious, and this volume is on the most +precious of all our concerns. We may well admit morality to be the child +of the understanding rather than of the senses, when we observe that +it becomes dearer to us as the latter weaken, and as the former grows +stronger by time and experience, till the hour arrives in which all +other objects lose all their value. That that hour may be distant with +you, my friend, and that the intermediate space may be filled with +health and happiness, is the sincere prayer of him who is, with +sentiments of great respect and friendship, Dear Sir, your most +obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXVI.--TO A. DONALD, February.7, 1788 + +TO A. DONALD. + +Paris, February.7, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +I received duly your friendly letter of November the 12th. By this time, +you will have seen published by Congress, the new regulations obtained +from this court, in favor of our commerce. You will observe, that the +arrangement relative to tobacco is a continuation of the order of Berni +for five years, only leaving the price to be settled between the +buyer and seller. You will see too, that all contracts for tobacco are +forbidden, till it arrives in France. Of course, your proposition for a +contract is precluded. + +I fear the prices here will be low, especially if the market be crowded. +You should be particularly attentive to the article, which requires that +the tobacco should come in French or American bottoms, as this article +will, in no instance, be departed from. + +I wish with all my soul, that the nine first conventions may accept the +new constitution, because this will secure to us the good it contains, +which I think great and important. But I equally wish, that the four +latest conventions, which ever they be, may refuse to accede to it, +till a declaration of rights be annexed. This would probably command the +offer of such a declaration, and thus give to the whole fabric, perhaps, +as much perfection as any one of that kind ever had. By a declaration of +rights, I mean one which shall stipulate freedom of religion, freedom +of the press, freedom of commerce against monopolies, trial by juries +in all cases, no suspensions of the _habeas corpus_, no standing armies. +These are fetters against doing evil, which no honest government should +decline. There is another strong feature in the new constitution, which +I as strongly dislike. That is, the perpetual re-eligibility of the +President. Of this I expect no amendment at present, because I do not +see that any body has objected to it on your side the water. But it will +be productive of cruel distress to our country, even in your day and +mine. The importance to France and England, to have our government in +the hands of a friend or foe, will occasion their interference by money, +and even by arms. Our President will be of much more consequence to them +than a King of Poland. We must take care, however, that neither this, +nor any other objection to the new form, produces a schism in our Union. +That would be an incurable evil, because near friends falling out, never +re-unite cordially; whereas, all of us going together, we shall be sure +to cure the evils of our new constitution, before they do great harm. +The box of books I had taken the liberty to address to you, is but just +gone from Havre for New York. I do not see, at present, any symptoms +strongly indicating war. It is true, that the distrust existing between +the two courts of Versailles and London, is so great, that they can +scarcely do business together. However, the difficulty and doubt +of obtaining money make both afraid to enter into war. The little +preparations for war, which we see, are the effect of distrust, rather +than of a design to commence hostilities. And in such a state of mind, +you know, small things may produce a rupture: so that though peace is +rather probable, war is very possible. + +Your letter has kindled all the fond recollections of ancient times; +recollections much dearer to me than any thing I have known since. There +are minds which can be pleased by honors and preferments; but I see +nothing in them but envy and enmity. It is only necessary to possess +them, to know how little they contribute to happiness, or rather how +hostile they are to it. No attachments soothe the mind so much as those +contracted in early life; nor do I recollect any societies which have +given me more pleasure, than those of which you have partaken with me. +1 had rather be shut up in a very modest cottage, with my books, my +family, and a few old friends, dining on simple bacon, and letting the +world roll on as it liked, than to occupy the most splendid post, which +any human power can give. I shall be glad to hear from you often. Give +me the small news as well as the great. Tell Dr. Currie, that I believe +I am indebted to him a letter, but that like the mass of our countrymen, +I am not, at this moment, able to pay all my debts; the post being to +depart in an hour, and the last stroke of a pen I am able to send by it, +being that which assures you of the sentiments of esteem and attachment, +with which I am, Dear Sir, your affectionate friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXVII.--TO M. WARVILLE, February 12, 1888 + +TO M. WARVILLE. + +Paris, February 12, 1888. + +Sir, + +I am very sensible of the honor you propose to me, of becoming a member +of the society for the abolition of the slave-trade. You know that +nobody wishes more ardently, to see an abolition, not only of the trade, +but of the condition of slavery: and certainly nobody will be more +willing to encounter every sacrifice for that object. But the influence +and information of the friends to this proposition in France will be +far above the need of my association. I am here as a public servant, +and those whom I serve, having never yet been able to give their +voice against the practice, it is decent for me to avoid too public +a demonstration of my wishes to see it abolished. Without serving the +cause here, it might render me less able to serve it beyond the water. I +trust you will be sensible of the prudence of those motives, therefore, +which govern my conduct on this occasion, and be assured of my wishes +for the success of your undertaking, and the sentiments of esteem and +respect, with which I have the honor to be, Sir, your most obedient, +humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXVIII.--TO JOHN ADAMS, March 2, 1788 + + +TO JOHN ADAMS. + +Paris, March 2, 1788.--Sunday. + +Dear Sir, + +I received this day, a letter from Mrs. Adams, of the 26th ultimo, +informing me you would set out on the 29th for the Hague. Our affairs at +Amsterdam press on my mind like a mountain. I have no information to +go on, but that of Willincks and Van Staphorsts, and according to that, +something seems necessary to be done. I am so anxious to confer with +you on this subject, and to see you and them together, and get some +effectual arrangement made in time, that I determine to meet you at the +Hague. I will set out the moment some repairs are made to my carriage: +it is promised me at three o'clock to-morrow; but probably they will +make it night, and that I may not set out till Tuesday morning. In that +case, I shall be at the Hague on Friday night: in the mean time, you +will perhaps have made all your bows there. I am sensible how irksome +this must be to you, in the moment of your departure. But it is a great +interest of the United States, which is at stake, and I am sure you will +sacrifice to that your feelings and your interest. I hope to shake you +by the hand within twenty-four hours after you receive this; and in +the mean time, I am, with much esteem and respect, Dear Sir, your +affectionate friend and humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXIX.--TO JOHN JAY, March 16, 1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Amsterdam, March 16, 1788. + +Sir, + +In a letter of the 13th instant, which I had the honor of addressing you +from this place, I mentioned in general terms, the object of my journey +hither, and that I should enter into more particular details, by the +confidential conveyance which would occur through Mr. Adams and Colonel +Smith. + +The board of treasury had, in the month of December, informed me and +our bankers here, that it would be impossible for them to make any +remittances to Europe for the then ensuing year, and that they must, +therefore, rely altogether on the progress of the late loan. But this, +in the mean time, after being about one third filled, had ceased to +get forward. The bankers who had been referred to me for advice, by Mr. +Adams, stated these circumstances, and pressed their apprehension for +the ensuing month of June, when two hundred and seventy thousand florins +would be wanting for interest. In fine, they urged an offer of the +holders of the former bonds, to take all those remaining on hand, +provided they might receive out of them the interest on a part of our +domestic debt, of which they had also become the holders. This would +have been one hundred and eighty thousand florins. To this proposition, +I could not presume any authority to listen. Thus pressed between the +danger of failure on one hand, and this proposition on the other, I +heard of Mr. Adams being gone to the Hague to take leave. His knowledge +of the subject was too valuable to be neglected under the present +difficulty, and it was the last moment in which we could be availed of +it. I set out immediately, therefore, for the Hague, and we came on to +this place together, in order to see what could be done. It was easier +to discover, than to remove, the causes which obstructed the progress +of the loan. Our affairs here, like those of other nations, are in the +hands of particular bankers. These employ particular, and they have +their particular circle of money-lenders. These moneylenders, as I have +before mentioned, while placing a part of their money in our +foreign loans, had at the same time employed another part in a joint +speculation, to the amount of eight hundred and forty thousand dollars, +in our domestic debt. A year's interest was becoming due on this, and +they wished to avail themselves of our want of money for the foreign +interest, to obtain payment of the domestic. Our first object was to +convince our bankers, that there was no power on this side the Atlantic +which could accede to this proposition, or give it any countenance. They +at length, therefore, but with difficulty, receded from this ground, and +agreed to enter into conferences with the brokers and lenders, and to +use every exertion to clear the loan from the embarrassment in which +this speculation had engaged it. What will be the result of these +conferences, is not yet known. We have hopes, however, that it is not +desperate, because the bankers consented yesterday, to pay off the +capital of fifty-one thousand florins, which had become due on the first +day of January, and which had not yet been paid. We have gone still +further. The treasury board gives no hope of remittances, till the new +government can procure them. For that government to be adopted, its +legislature assembled, its system of taxation and collection arranged, +the money gathered from the people into the treasury, and then remitted +to Europe, must extend considerably into the year 1790. To secure our +credit then, for the present year only, is but to put off the evil day +to the next. What remains of the last loan, when it shall be filled up, +will little more than clear us of present demands, as may be seen by the +estimate enclosed. We thought it better, therefore, to provide at once +for the years 1789 and 1790 also; and thus to place the government at +its ease, and her credit in security, during that trying interval. +The same estimate will show, that another million of florins will be +necessary to effect this. We stated this to our bankers, who concurred +in our views, and that to ask the whole sum at once would be better than +to make demands from time to time, so small, as that they betray to +the money-holders the extreme feebleness of our resources. Mr. Adams, +therefore, has executed bonds for another million of florins; which, +however, are to remain unissued till Congress shall have ratified +the measure that this transaction is something or nothing, at their +pleasure. We suppose its expediency so apparent, as to leave little +doubt of its ratification. In this case, much time will have been saved +by the execution of the bonds at this moment, and the proposition will +be presented here under a more favorable appearance, according to the +opinion of the bankers. Mr. Adams is under a necessity of setting out +to-morrow morning, but I shall stay two or three days longer, to attend +to and encourage the efforts of the bankers; though it is yet doubtful +whether they will ensure us a safe passage over the month of June. Not +having my letters here to turn to, I am unable to say whether the last I +wrote, mentioned the declaration of the Emperor that he should take part +in the war against the Turks. This declaration appeared a little before, +or a little after that letter, I do not recollect which. Some little +hostilities have taken place between them. The court of Versailles seems +to pursue immoveably its pacific system, and from every appearance in +the country from which I write, we must conclude that its tragedy is +wound up. The triumph appears complete, and tranquillity perfectly +established. The numbers who have emigrated are differently estimated, +from twenty to forty thousand. A little before I left Paris, I received +a piece of intelligence, which should be communicated, leaving you to +lay what stress on it, it may seem to deserve. Its authenticity may be +surely relied on. At the time of the late pacification, Spain had about +fifteen ships of the line nearly ready for sea. The convention +for disarming did not extend to her, nor did she disarm. This gave +inquietude to the court of London, and they demanded an explanation. +One was given, they say, which is perfectly satisfactory. The Russian +minister at Versailles, getting knowledge of this, became suspicious +on his part. He recollected that Spain, during the late war, had been +opposed to the entrance of a Russian fleet into the Mediterranean, and +concluded, if England was not the object of this armament, Russia +might be. It is known that that power means to send a fleet of about +twenty-four ships into the Mediterranean this summer. He sent to the +Count de Montmorin, and expressed his apprehensions. The Count de +Montmorin declared, that the object of Spain in that armament was +totally different; that he was not sure she would succeed; but that +France and Spain were to be considered as one, and that the former would +become guarantee for the latter, that she would make no opposition to +the Russian fleet. If neither England nor Russia be the object, the +question recurs, Who is it for? You know best, if our affairs with Spain +are in a situation to give jealousy to either of us. I think it very +possible, that the satisfaction of the court of London may have been +pretended or premature. It is possible also, that the affairs of Spain +in South America may require them to assume a threatening appearance. I +give you the facts, however, and you will judge whether they are objects +of attention or of mere curiosity. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of sincere esteem and respect, +Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + +P. S. I enclose herewith an extract of a letter from the Count de +Vergennes to the French ambassador at the Hague, which will make a +remarkable chapter in the history of the late revolution here. It is not +public, nor should be made so by us. Probably those who have been the +victims of it, will some day publish it. + + + + +LETTER CXXX.--TO MR. DUMAS, March 29, 1788 + + +TO MR. DUMAS. + +Amsterdam, March 29, 1788. + +Sir, + +I have now to acknowledge the receipt of your favors of the 14th, 18th, +and 23rd instant. I would have preferred doing it in person, but the +season, and the desire of seeing what I have not yet seen, invite me to +take the route of the Rhine. I shall leave this place to-morrow morning, +and probably not reach Paris till the latter end of April. In the moment +we were to have conferred on the subject of paying the arrears due to +you, a letter of the 20th of February, from the board of treasury, was +received, forbidding the application of money to any purpose, (except +our current claims,) till the June interest should be actually in hand. +Being by the letter, tied up from giving an order in your favor, I +return you the letter you had written to Mr. Jay, on the supposition +that the order for your arrears was given. It has been suggested, +however, that if you could receive bonds of the loan, you could make +them answer your purpose, and the commissioners say, this would in no +wise interfere with the views of the treasury board, nor the provision +for the June interest. I have, therefore, recommended to them in +writing, to give you bonds to the amount of your balance, if you choose +to take them, rather than to wait. I wish this may answer your purpose. +I remember that in the conversation which I had the honor of having with +you, on the evening I was at the Hague, you said that your enemies had +endeavored to have it believed, that Congress would abandon you, and +withdraw your appointments. An enemy generally says and believes what +he wishes, and your enemies, particularly, are not those who are most in +the counsels of Congress, nor the best qualified to tell what Congress +will do. From the evidences you have received of their approbation, and +from their well known steadiness and justice, you must be assured of +a continuance of their favor, were they to continue under the present +form. Nor do I see any thing in the new government which threatens us +with less firmness. The Senate, who will make and remove their foreign +officers, must, from its constitution, be a wise and steady body. +Nor would a new government begin its administration by discarding old +servants; servants who have put all to the risk, and when the risk was +great, to obtain that freedom and security under which themselves +will be what they shall be. Upon the whole, my Dear Sir, tranquillize +yourself and your family upon this subject. All the evidence, which +exists as yet, authorizes you to do this, nor can I foresee any cause +of disquiet in future. That none may arise, that yourself and family may +enjoy health, happiness, and the continued approbation of those by whom +you wish most to be approved, is the sincere wish of him, who has the +honor to be, with sentiments of sincere esteem and attachment, your most +obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXXI.--TO THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE TREASURY, March 29, 1788 + + +TO THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE TREASURY. + +Gentlemen, + +Amsterdam, March 29, 1788. + +***** + +I cannot close my letter, without some observations on the transfer of +our domestic debt to foreigners. This circumstance, and the failure to +pay off Fiseaux' loan, were the sole causes of the stagnation of our +late loan. For otherwise our credit would have stood on more hopeful +grounds than heretofore. There was a condition in the last loan, that, +the lenders furnishing one third of the money, the remaining two thirds +of the bonds should remain eighteen months unsold, and at their option +to take or not, and that in the mean time, the same bankers should +open no other loan for us. These same lenders became purchasers of our +domestic debt, and they were disposed to avail themselves of the power +they had thus acquired over us as to our foreign demands, to make us +pay the domestic one. Should the present necessities have obliged you +to comply with their proposition for the present year, I should be of +opinion it ought to be the last instance. If the transfer of these debts +to Europe meet with any encouragement from us, we can no more borrow +money here, let our necessities be what they will. For who will give +ninety-six per cent, for the foreign obligations of the same nation, +whose domestic ones can be bought at the same market for fifty-five +per cent.; the former, too, bearing an interest of only five per cent., +while the latter yields six. If any discouragements can be honestly +thrown on this transfer, it would seem advisable, in order to keep the +domestic debt at home. It would be a very effectual one, if, instead of +the title existing in our treasury books alone, it was made to exist +in loose papers, as our loan office debts do. The European holder would +then be obliged to risk the title paper of his capital, as well as his +interest, in the hands of his agent in America, whenever the interest +was to be demanded; whereas, at present, he trusts him with the interest +only. This single circumstance would put a total stop to all future +sales of domestic debt at this market. Whether this, or any other +obstruction, can or should be thrown in the way of these operations, +is not for me to decide; but I have thought the subject worthy your +consideration. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Gentlemen, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXXII.--TO GENERAL WASHINGTON, May 2, 1788 + + +TO GENERAL WASHINGTON. + +Paris, May 2, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +I am honored with your Excellency's letter by the last packet, and thank +you for the information it contains on the communication between the +Cayahoga and Big Beaver. I have ever considered the opening a canal +between those two water courses, as the most important work in that +line, which the state of Virginia could undertake. If will infallibly +turn through the Potomac all the commerce of Lake Erie, and the country +west of that, except what may pass down the Mississippi; and it is +important that it be soon done, lest that commerce should, in the mean +time, get established in another channel. Having, in the spring of the +last year, taken a journey through the southern parts of France, and +particularly examined the canal of Languedoc, through its whole course, +I take the liberty of sending you the notes I made on the spot, as you +may find in them something perhaps, which may be turned to account, some +time or other, in the prosecution of the Potomac canal. Being merely a +copy from my travelling notes, they are undigested and imperfect, but +may still, perhaps, give hints capable of improvement in your mind. + +The affairs of Europe are in such a state still, that it is impossible +to say what form they will take ultimately. France and Prussia, viewing +the Emperor as their most dangerous and common enemy, had heretofore +seen their common safety as depending on a strict connection with +one another. This had naturally inclined the Emperor to the scale +of England, and the Empress also, as having views in common with the +Emperor, against the Turks. But these two powers would, at any time, +have gladly quitted England, to coalesce with France, as being the power +which they met every where, opposed as a barrier to all their schemes +of aggrandizement. When, therefore, the present King of Prussia took +the eccentric measure of bidding defiance to France, by placing his +brother-in-law on the throne of Holland, the two empires immediately +seized the occasion of soliciting an alliance with France. The motives +for this appeared so plausible, that it was believed the latter would +have entered into this alliance, and that thus the whole political +system of Europe would have taken a new form. What has prevented this +court from coming into it, we know not. The unmeasurable ambition of the +Emperor, and his total want of moral principle and honor, are suspected. +A great share of Turkey, the recovery of Silesia, the consolidation of +his dominions by the Bavarian exchange, the liberties of the Germanic +body, all occupy his mind together; and his head is not well enough +organized, to pursue so much only of all this, as is practicable. +Still it was thought that France might safely have coalesced with these +powers, because Russia and herself holding close together, as their +interests would naturally dictate, the Emperor could never stir, but +with their permission. France seems, however, to have taken the worst +of all parties, that is, none at all. She folds her arms, lets the +two empires go to work to cut up Turkey as they can, and holds Prussia +aloof, neither as a friend nor foe. This is withdrawing her opposition +from the two empires, without the benefit of any condition whatever. In +the mean time, England has clearly overreached herself. She excited +the war between the Russians and Turks, in hopes that France, still +supporting the Turks, would be embarrassed with the two empires. She did +not foresee the event which has taken place, of France abandoning the +Turks, and that which may take place, of her union with the two empires. +She allied herself with Holland, but cannot obtain the alliance of +Prussia. This latter power would be very glad to close again the breach +with France, and therefore, while there remains an opening for this, +holds off from England, whose fleets could not enter into Silesia, to +protect that from the Emperor. Thus you see, that the old system is +unhinged, and no new one hung in its place. Probabilities are rather +in favor of a connection between the two empires, France, and Spain. +Several symptoms show themselves, of friendly dispositions between +Russia and France, unfriendly ones between Russia and England, and such +as are barely short of hostility between England and France. But into +real hostilities, this country would with difficulty be drawn. Her +finances are too deranged, her internal union too much dissolved, to +hazard a war. The nation is pressing on fast, to a fixed constitution. +Such a revolution in the public opinion has taken place, that the crown +already feels its powers bounded, and is obliged, by its measures, to +acknowledge limits. + +A States-General will be called at some epoch not distant; they will +probably establish a civil list, and leave the government to temporary +provisions of money, so as to render frequent assemblies of the national +representative necessary. How that representative will be organized, is +yet uncertain. Among a thousand projects, the best seems to me, that of +dividing them into two Houses, of Commons and Nobles; the Commons to be +chosen by the Provincial Assemblies, who are chosen themselves by the +people, and the Nobles by the body of _Noblesse_, as in Scotland. But +there is no reason to conjecture, that this is the particular scheme +which will be preferred. + +The war between the Russians and Turks has made an opening for our +Commodore Paul Jones. The Empress has invited him into her service. +She insures to him the rank of rear-admiral; will give him a separate +command, and it is understood, that he is never to be commanded. I think +she means to oppose him to the Captain Pacha, on the Black Sea. He is by +this time, probably, at St. Petersburg. The circumstances did not permit +his awaiting the permission of Congress, because the season was close at +hand for opening the campaign. But he has made it a condition, that he +shall be free at all times to return to the orders of Congress, whenever +they shall please to call for him; and also, that he shall not, in any +case be expected to bear arms against France. I believe Congress had it +in contemplation to give him the grade of admiral, from the date of +his taking the Serapis. Such a measure now, would greatly gratify him, +second the efforts of fortune in his favor, and better the opportunities +of improving him for our service, whenever the moment shall come in +which we may want him. + +The danger of our incurring something like a bankruptcy in Holland, +which might have been long, and even fatally felt in a moment of crisis, +induced me to take advantage of Mr. Adams's journey to take leave at +the Hague, to meet him there, get him to go on to Amsterdam, and try to +avert the impending danger. The moment of paying a great sum of annual +interest was approaching. There was no money on hand; the board of +treasury had notified that they could not remit any; and the progress +of the loan, which had been opened there, had absolutely stopped. +Our bankers there gave me notice of all this; and that a single day's +failure in the payment of interest, would have the most fatal effect +on our credit. I am happy to inform you, we were able to set the loan +a going again, and that the evil is at least postponed. Indeed, I am +tolerably satisfied, that if the measures we proposed, are ratified +by Congress, all European calls for money (except the French debt) +are secure enough, till the end of the year 1790; by which time, we +calculated that the new government might be able to get money into +the treasury. Much conversation with the bankers, brokers, and +money-holders, gave me insight into the state of national credit there, +which I had never before been able satisfactorily to get. The English +credit is the first, because they never open a loan, without laying and +appropriating taxes for the payment of the interest, and there has never +been an instance of their failing one day, in that payment. The Emperor +and Empress have good credit, because they use it little, and have +hitherto been very punctual. This country is among the lowest, in point +of credit. Ours stands in hope only. They consider us as the surest +nation on earth for the repayment of the capital; but as the punctual +payment of interest is of absolute necessity in their arrangements, +we cannot borrow but with difficulty and disadvantage. The monied +men, however, look towards our new government with a great degree of +partiality, and even anxiety. If they see that set out on the English +plan, the first degree of credit will be transferred to us. A favorable +occasion will arise to our new government of asserting this ground to +themselves. The transfer of the French debt, public and private, +to Amsterdam, is certainly desirable. An act of the new government, +therefore, for opening a loan in Holland for the purpose, laying taxes +at the same time for paying annually the interest and a part of the +principal, will answer the two valuable purposes, of ascertaining the +degree of our credit, and of removing those causes of bickering and +irritation, which should never be permitted to subsist with a nation, +with which it is so much our interest to be on cordial terms as with +France. A very small portion of this debt, I mean that part due to the +French officers, has done us an injury, of which those in office in +America cannot have an idea. The interest is unpaid for the last three +years; and these creditors, highly connected, and at the same time +needy, have felt and communicated hard thoughts of us. Borrowing, as we +have done, three hundred thousand florins a year, to pay our interest +in Holland, it would have been worth while to have added twenty thousand +more, to suppress those clamors. I am anxious about every thing which +may affect our credit. My wish would be, to possess it in the highest +degree, but to use it little. Were we without credit, we might be +crushed by a nation of much inferior resources, but possessing higher +credit. The present system of war renders it necessary to make exertions +far beyond the annual resources of the State, and consume in one year +the efforts of many. And this system we cannot change. It remains, then, +that we cultivate our credit with the utmost attention. + +I had intended to have written a word to your Excellency on the subject +of the new constitution, but I have already spun out my letter to an +immoderate length. I will just observe, therefore, that according to +my ideas, there is a great deal of good in it. There are two things, +however, which I dislike strongly, 1. The want of a declaration of +rights. I am in hopes the opposition in Virginia will remedy this, +and produce such a declaration. 2. The perpetual re-eligibility of the +President. This, I fear, will make that an office for life, first, and +then hereditary. I was much an enemy to monarchies before I came to +Europe. I am ten thousand times more so, since I have seen what they +are. There is scarcely an evil known in these countries, which may not +be traced to their king, as its source, nor a good, which is not derived +from the small fibres of republicanism existing among them. I can +further say, with safety, there is not a crowned head in Europe, whose +talents or merits would entitle him to be elected a vestryman by the +people of any parish in America. However, I shall hope, that before +there is danger of this change taking place in the office of President, +the good sense and free spirit of our countrymen will make the changes +necessary to prevent it. Under this hope, I look forward to the general +adoption of the new constitution with anxiety, as necessary for us under +our present circumstances. I have so much trespassed on your patience +already, by the length of this letter, that I will add nothing further, +than those assurances of sincere esteem and attachment, with which I +have the honor to be, your Excellency's most obedient and most humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXXIII.--TO JAMES MADISON, May 3,1788 + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, May 3,1788. + +Dear Sir, + +Mine of February the 6th acknowledged the receipt of yours of December +the 9th and 20th; since that, those of February the 19th and 20th have +come to hand. The present will be delivered you by Mr. Warville, whom +you will find truly estimable, and a great enthusiast for liberty. His +writings will have shown you this. + +For public news, I must refer you to my letters to Mr. Jay. Those +I wrote to him from Amsterdam will have informed you of my journey +thither. While there, I endeavored to get, as well as I could, into the +state of national credit there; for though I am an enemy to the using +our credit but under absolute necessity, yet the possessing a good +credit I consider as indispensable, in the present system of carrying on +war. The existence of a nation having no credit, is always precarious. +The credit of England is the best. Their paper sells at par on the +exchange of Amsterdam, the moment any of it is offered, and they can +command there any sum they please. The reason is, that they never +borrow, without establishing taxes for the payment of the interest, and +they never yet failed one day in that payment. The Emperor and Empress +have good credit enough. They use it little and have been ever punctual. +This country cannot borrow at all there; for though they always pay +their interest within the year, yet it is often some months behind. It +is difficult to assign to our credit its exact station in this scale. +They consider us as the most certain nation on earth for the principal; +but they see that we borrow of themselves to pay the interest, so that +this is only a conversion of their interest into principal. Our paper, +for this reason, sells for from four to eight per cent, below par, on +the exchange, and our loans are negotiated with the Patriots only. +But the whole body of money-dealers, Patriot and Stadtholderian, look +forward to our new government with a great degree of partiality and +interest. They are disposed to have much confidence in it, and it was +the prospect of its establishment, which enabled us to set the loan of +last year into motion again. They will attend steadfastly to its first +money operations. If these are injudiciously begun, correction, whenever +they shall be corrected, will come too late. Our borrowings will always +be difficult and disadvantageous. If they begin well, our credit will +immediately take the first station. Equal provision for the interest, +adding to it a certain prospect for the principal, will give us a +preference to all nations, the English not excepted. The first act of +the new government should be some operation, whereby they may assume to +themselves this station. Their European debts form a proper subject for +this. Digest the whole, public and private, Dutch, French, and Spanish, +into a table, showing the sum of interest due every year, and the +portions of principal payable the same year. Take the most certain +branch of revenue, and one which shall suffice to pay the interest, and +leave such a surplus as may accomplish all the payments of the capital, +as terms somewhat short of those, at which they will become due. Let the +surpluses of those years, in which no reimbursement of principal falls, +be applied to buy up our paper on the exchange of Amsterdam, and thus +anticipate the demands of principal. In this way our paper will be kept +up at par; and this alone will enable us to command in four and twenty +hours, at any time, on the exchange of Amsterdam, as many millions as +that capital can produce. The same act which makes this provision for +the existing debts, should go on to open a loan to their whole amount; +the produce of that loan to be applied, as fast as received, to the +payment of such parts of the existing debts as admit of payment. The +rate of interest to be as the government should privately instruct their +agent, because it must depend on the effect these measures would have on +the exchange. Probably it could be lowered from time to time. Honest and +annual publications of the payments made, will inspire confidence, while +silence would conceal nothing from those interested to know. + +You will perceive by the _comte rendu_ which I send you, that this +country now calls seriously for its interest at least. The nonpayment +of this, hitherto, has done our credit little injury, because the +government here, saying nothing about it, the public have supposed they +wished to leave us at our ease as to the payment. It is now seen that +they call for it, and they will publish annually the effect of that +call. A failure here, therefore, will have the same effect on our credit +hereafter, as a failure at Amsterdam. I consider it, then, as of a +necessity not to be dispensed with, that these calls be effectually +provided for. If it shall be seen, that the general provision before +hinted at cannot be in time, then it is the present government which +should take on itself to borrow in Amsterdam what may be necessary. The +new government should by no means be left by the old to the necessity of +borrowing a stiver, before it can tax for its interest. This will be +to destroy the credit of the new government in its birth. And I am of +opinion, that if the present Congress will add to the loan of a million +(which Mr. Adams and myself have proposed this year) what may be +necessary for the French calls to the year 1790, the money can be +obtained at the usual disadvantage. Though I have not at this +moment received such authentic information from our bankers as I may +communicate to Congress, yet I know privately from one of them (Mr. +Jacob Van Staphorst, who is here), that they had on Hand a fortnight ago +four hundred thousand florins, and the sale going on well. So that the +June interest, which had been in so critical a predicament, was already +secured. If the loan of a million on Mr. Adams's bonds of this year be +ratified by Congress, the applications of the money on hand may go on +immediately, according to the statement I sent to Mr. Jay. One article +in this I must beg you to press on the treasury board; that is, an +immediate order for the payment of the three years' arrearages to the +French officers. They were about holding a meeting to take desperate +measures on this subject, when I was called to Holland. I desired them +to be quiet till my return, and since my return I have pressed a further +tranquillity till July, by which time I have given them reason to hope I +may have an answer from the treasury board to my letters of March. Their +ill humor can be contained no longer; and as I know no reason why +they may not be paid at that time, I shall have nothing to urge in our +defence after that. + +***** + +You remember the report, drawn by Governor Randolph, on the navigation +of the Mississippi. When I came to Europe, Mr. Thomson was so kind as to +have me a copy of it made out. I lent it to Dr. Franklin, and he mislaid +it, so that it could never be found. Could you make interest with him +to have me another copy made, and send it to me? By Mr. Warville I send +your pedometer. To the loop at the bottom of it you must sew a tape, and +at the other end of the tape a small hook (such as we use under the +name of hooks and eyes), cut a little hole in the bottom of your left +watch-pocket, pass the hook and tape through it, and down between the +breeches and drawers, and fix the hook on the edge of your knee-band, +an inch from the knee-buckle; then hook the instrument itself by its +swivel-hook on the upper edge of the watch-pocket. Your tape being well +adjusted in length, your double steps will be exactly counted by the +instrument, the shortest hand pointing out the thousands, the flat hand +the hundreds, and the long hand the tens and units. Never turn the hands +backward; indeed, it is best not to set them to any given place, but to +note the number they stand at when you begin to walk. The adjusting the +tape to its exact length is a critical business, and will cost you many +trials. But once done, it is done for ever. The best way is to have a +small buckle fixed on the middle of the tape, by which you can take +it up, and let it out at pleasure. When you choose it should cease to +count, unhook it from the top of the watch-pocket, and let it fall down +to the bottom of the pocket. + +***** + +I am, with sentiments of the most sincere esteem and attachment, Dear +Sir, your affectionate friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXXIV.--TO JOHN JAY, May 4, 1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, May 4, 1788. + +Sir, + +I had the honor of addressing you in two letters of the 13th and 16th of +March from Amsterdam, and have since received Mr. Ramson's of February +the 20th. I staid at Amsterdam about ten or twelve days after the +departure of Mr. Adams, in hopes of seeing the million of the last year +filled up. This, however, could not be accomplished on the spot. But +the prospect was so good as to have dissipated all fears; and since my +return here, I learn (not officially from our bankers, but) through a +good channel, that they have received near four hundred thousand florins +since the date of the statement I sent you in my letter of March the +16th; and I presume we need not fear the completion of that loan, which +will provide for all our purposes of the year 1788, as stated in +that paper. I hope, therefore, to receive from the treasury orders in +conformity thereto, that I may be able to proceed to the redemption of +our captives. A provision for the purposes of the years 1789 and 1790, +as stated in the same paper, will depend on the ratification by Congress +of Mr. Adams's bonds of this year for another million of florins. But +there arises a new call from this government, for its interest at least. +Their silence hitherto has made it be believed in general, that they +consented to the nonpayment of our interest to them, in order to +accommodate us. You will perceive in the seventy-fifth and seventy-sixth +pages of the _compte rendu_, which I have the honor to send you, that +they call for this interest, and will publish whether it be paid or not; +and by No. 25, page eighty-one, that they count on its regular receipt +for the purposes of the year. These calls, for the first days of +January, 1789 and 1790, will amount to about a million and a half of +florins more; and if to be raised by loan, it must be for two millions, +as well to cover the expenses of the loan, as that loans are not opened +for fractions of millions. This publication seems to render a provision +for this interest as necessary as for that of Amsterdam. + +I had taken measures to have it believed at Algiers, that our government +withdrew its attention from our captives there. This was to prepare +their captors for the ransoming them at a reasonable price. I find, +however, that Captain O'Bryan is apprized that I have received some +authority on this subject. He writes me a cruel letter, supposing me the +obstacle to their redemption. Their own interest requires that I should +leave them to think thus hardly of me. Were the views of government +communicated to them, they could not keep their own secret, and such +a price would be demanded for them, as Congress, probably, would +think ought not to be given, lest it should be the cause of involving +thousands of others of their citizens in the same condition. The moment +I have money, the business shall be set in motion. + +By a letter from Joseph Chiappe, our agent at Mogadore, I am notified of +a declaration of the Emperor of Morocco, that if the States General +of the United Netherlands do not, before the month of May, send him an +ambassador, to let him know whether it is war or peace between them, he +will send one to them with five frigates; and that if their dispositions +be unfavorable, their frigates shall proceed to America to make prizes +on the Dutch, and to sell them there. It seems to depend on the Dutch, +therefore, whether the Barbary powers shall learn the way to our coasts, +and whether we shall have to decide the question of the legality of +selling in our ports vessels taken from them. I informed you, in a +former letter, of the declaration made by the court of Spain to that of +London, relative to its naval armament, and also of the declaration of +the Count de Montmorin to the Russian minister here on the same subject. +I have good information, that the court of Spain has itself made a +similar and formal declaration to the minister of Russia at Madrid. +So that Russia is satisfied she is not the object. I doubt whether the +English are equally satisfied as to themselves. The season has hitherto +prevented any remarkable operation between the Turks and the two +empires. The war, however, will probably go on, and the season now +admits of more important events. The Empress has engaged Commodore Paul +Jones in her service. He is to have the rank of rear-admiral, with +a separate command, and it is understood that he is in no case to be +commanded. He will probably be opposed to the Captain Pacha on the Black +Sea. He received this invitation at Copenhagen, and as the season for +commencing the campaign, was too near to admit time for him to ask +and await the permission of Congress, he accepted the offer, only +stipulating, that he should be always free to return to the orders of +Congress whenever called for, and that he should not be expected to bear +arms against France. He conceived, that the experience he should gain +would enable him to be more useful to the United States, should they +ever have occasion for him. It has been understood, that Congress had +had it in contemplation to give him the grade of rear-admiral, from the +date of the action of the Serapis, and it is supposed, that such a mark +of their approbation would have a favorable influence on his fortune in +the north. Copies of the letters which passed between him and the Danish +minister are herewith transmitted. I shall immediately represent to +Count Bernstorff, that the demand for our prizes can have no connection +with a treaty of commerce; that there is no reason why the claims of +our seamen should await so distant and uncertain an event; and press the +settlement of this claim. + +This country still pursues its line of peace. The ministry seem now all +united in it; some from a belief of their inability to carry on a war; +others from a desire to arrange their internal affairs, and improve +their constitution. The differences between the King and parliaments +threaten a serious issue. Many symptoms indicate that the government has +in contemplation some act of highhanded authority. An extra number of +printers have for several days been employed, the apartment wherein they +are at work being surrounded by a body of guards, who permit no body +either to come out or go in. The commanders of the provinces, civil and +military, have been ordered to be at their stations on a certain day +of the ensuing week. They are accordingly gone: so that the will of the +King is probably to be announced through the whole kingdom on the same +day. The parliament of Paris, apprehending that some innovation is to +be attempted, which may take from them the opportunity of deciding on it +after it shall be made known, came last night to the resolution of +which I have the honor to enclose you a manuscript copy. This you will +perceive to be, in effect, a declaration of rights. I am obliged to +close here the present letter, lest I should miss the opportunity of +conveying it by a passenger who is to call for it. Should the delay of +the packet admit any continuation of these details, they shall be the +subject of another letter, to be forwarded by post. The gazettes of +Leyden and France accompany this. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXXV.--TO THE COUNT DE MOUSTIER, May 17, 1788 + + +TO THE COUNT DE MOUSTIER. + +Paris, May 17, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +I have at length an opportunity of acknowledging the receipt of your +favors of February, and March the 14th, and congratulating you on your +resurrection from the dead, among whom you had been confidently entombed +by the news-dealers of Paris. I am sorry that your first impressions +have been disturbed by matters of etiquette, where surely they +should least have been expected to occur. These disputes are the most +insusceptible of determination, because they have no foundation in +reason. Arbitrary and senseless in their nature, they are arbitrarily +decided by every nation for itself. These decisions are meant to prevent +disputes, but they produce ten, where they prevent one. It would have +been better, therefore, in a new country, to have excluded etiquette +altogether; or if it must be admitted in some form or other, to have +made it depend on some circumstance founded in nature, such as the age +or station of the parties. However, you have got over all this, and I +am in hopes have been able to make up a society suited to your own +dispositions. Your situation will doubtless be improved by the adoption +of the new constitution, which I hope will have taken place before +you receive this. I see in this instrument a great deal of good. +The consolidation of our government, a just representation, an +administration of some permanence, and other features of great value, +will be gained by it. There are, indeed, some faults, which revolted me +a good deal in the first moment; but we must be contented to travel on +towards perfection, step by step. We must be contented with the ground +which this constitution will gain for us, and hope that a favorable +moment will come for correcting what is amiss in it. I view in the same +light the innovations making here. The new organization of the judiciary +department is undoubtedly for the better. The reformation of the +criminal code is an immense step taken towards good. The composition +of the Plenary court is indeed vicious in the extreme; but the basis of +that court may be retained, and its composition changed. Make of it a +representative of the people, by composing it of members sent from +the Provincial Assemblies, and it becomes a valuable member of the +constitution. But it is said, the court will not consent to do this: +the court, however, has consented to call the States General, who will +consider the Plenary court but as a canvass for them to work on. The +public mind is manifestly advancing on the abusive prerogatives of +their governors, and bearing them down. No force in the government can +withstand this, in the long run. Courtiers had rather give up power than +pleasures; they will barter, therefore, the usurped prerogatives of +the King for the money of the people. This is the agent by which modern +nations will recover their rights. I sincerely wish that, in this +country, they may be contented with a peaceable and passive opposition. +At this moment we are not sure of this; though as yet it is difficult +to say what form the opposition will take. It is a comfortable +circumstance, that their neighboring enemy is under the administration +of a minister disposed to keep the peace. Engage in war who will, may +my country long continue your peaceful residence, and merit your good +offices with that nation, whose affections it is their duty and interest +to cultivate. + +Accept these and all other the good wishes of him, who has the honor to +be, with sincere esteem and respect, Dear Sir, your most obedient and +most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXXVI.--TO JOHN JAY, May 23,1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, May 23,1788. + +Sir, + +When I wrote my letter of the 4th instant, I had no reason to doubt that +a packet would have sailed on the 10th, according to the established +order. The passengers had all, except one, gone down to Havre in this +expectation. However, none has sailed, and perhaps none will sail, as +I think the suppression of the packets is one of the economies in +contemplation. An American merchant, concerned in the commerce of the +whale-oil, proposed to government to despatch his ships from Havre and +Boston at stated periods, and to take on board the French courier and +mail, and the proposition has been well enough received. I avail myself +of a merchant vessel going from Havre, to write the present. + +In my letter of the 4th, I stated to you the symptoms which indicated +that government had some great stroke of authority in contemplation. +That night they sent guards to seize Monsieur d'Epremenil and Monsieur +Goiskind, two members of parliament, in their houses. They escaped, +and took sanctuary in the Palais (or parliament house). The parliament +assembled itself extraordinarily, summoned the Dukes and Peers +specially, and came to the resolution of the 5th, which they sent to +Versailles by deputies, determined not to leave the palace till they +received an answer. In the course of that night a battalion of guards +surrounded the house. The two members were taken by the officers from +among their fellows, and sent off to prison, the one to Lyons, the other +(d'Epremenil), the most obnoxious, to an island in the Mediterranean. +The parliament then separated. On the 8th, a bed of justice was held at +Versailles, wherein were enregistered the six ordinances which had been +passed in Council on the 1st of May, and which I now send you. They +were in like manner enregistered in beds of justice, on the same day, in +nearly all the parliaments of the kingdom. By these ordinances, 1. The +criminal law is reformed, by abolishing examination on the _sellette_, +which, like our holding up the hand at the bar, remained a stigma on the +party, though innocent; by substituting an oath, instead of torture, on +the _question prealable_, which is used after condemnation, to make the +prisoner discover his accomplices; (the torture, abolished in 1780, was +on the _question preparatoire_, previous to judgment, in order to make +the prisoner accuse himself;) by allowing counsel to the prisoner for +his defence; obliging the judges to specify in their judgments the +offence for which he is condemned; and respiting execution a month, +except in the case of sedition. This reformation is unquestionably good, +and within the ordinary legislative powers of the crown. That it should +remain to be made at this day, proves that the monarch is the last +person in his kingdom who yields to the progress of philanthropy and +civilization. 2. The organization of the whole judiciary department is +changed, by the institution of subordinate jurisdictions, the taking +from the parliaments the cognizance of all causes of less value than +twenty thousand livres, reducing their numbers to about a fourth, and +suppressing a number of special courts. Even this would be a great +improvement, if it did not imply that the King is the only person +in this nation, who has any rights or any power. 3. The right of +registering the laws is taken from the parliaments, and transferred to +a Plenary court, created by the King. This last is the measure most +obnoxious to all persons. Though the members are to be for life, yet a +great proportion of them are from descriptions of men always candidates +for the royal favor in other lines. As yet, the general consternation +has not sufficiently passed over, to say whether the matter will end +here. I send you some papers, which indicate symptoms of resistance. +These are the resolution of the _Noblesse_ of Brittany, the declaration +of the Advocate General of Provence, which is said to express the +spirit of that province; and the _Arrete of the Chatelet_, which is the +hustings-court of the city of Paris. Their refusal to act under the +new character assigned them, and the suspension of their principal +functions, are very embarrassing. The clamors this will excite, and +the disorders it may admit, will be loud, and near to the royal ear and +person. The parliamentary fragments permitted to remain, have already +some of them refused, and probably all will refuse, to act under that +form. The assembly of the clergy which happens to be sitting, have +addressed the King to call the States General immediately. Of the Dukes +and Peers (thirty-eight in number), nearly half are either minors or +superannuated; two thirds of the acting half seem disposed to avoid +taking a part; the rest, about eight or nine, have refused, by letters +to the King, to act in the new courts. A proposition excited among the +Dukes and Peers, to assemble and address the King for a modification of +the Plenary court, seems to show that the government would be willing to +compromise on that head. It has been prevented by the Dukes and Peers in +opposition, because they suppose that no modification to be made by the +government will give to that body the form they desire, which is that of +a representative of the nation. They foresee that if the government +is forced to this, they will call them, as nearly as they can, in the +ancient forms; in which case, less good will be to be expected from +them. But they hope they may be got to concur in a declaration of +rights, at least, so that the nation may be acknowledged to have some +fundamental rights, not alterable by their ordinary legislature, and +that this may form a ground-work for future improvements. These seem to +be the views of the most enlightened and disinterested characters of the +opposition. But they may be frustrated by the nation's making no cry at +all, or by a hasty and premature appeal to arms. There is neither +head nor body in the nation, to promise a successful opposition to +two hundred thousand regular troops. Some think the army could not +be depended on by the government; but the breaking men to military +discipline, is breaking their spirits to principles of passive +obedience. A firm, but quiet opposition, will be the most likely +to succeed. Whatever turn this crisis takes, a revolution in their +constitution seems inevitable, unless foreign war supervene, to suspend +the present contest. And a foreign war they will avoid, if possible, +from an inability to get money. The loan of one hundred and twenty +millions, of the present year, is filled up by such subscriptions as may +be relied on. But that of eighty millions, proposed for the next year, +cannot be filled up, in the actual situation of things. + +The Austrians have been successful in an attack upon Schabatz, intended +as a preliminary to that of Belgrade. In that on Dubitza, another town +in the neighborhood of Belgrade, they have been repulsed, and as is +suspected, with considerable loss. It is still supposed the Russian +fleet will go into the Mediterranean, though it will be much retarded by +the refusal of the English government to permit its sailors to engage in +the voyage. Sweden and Denmark are arming from eight to twelve ships of +the line each. The English and Dutch treaty you will find in the Leyden +gazettes of May the 9th and 13th. That between England and Prussia is +supposed to be stationary. Monsieur de St. Priest, the ambassador from +this court to the Hague, has either gone, or is on the point of going. +The Emperor of Morocco has declared war against England. I enclose you +his orders in our favor, on that occasion. England sends a squadron +to the Mediterranean for the protection of her commerce, and she is +reinforcing her possessions in the two Indies. France is expecting the +arrival of an embassy from Tippoo Saib, is sending some regiments to the +East Indies, and a fleet of evolution into the Atlantic. Seven ships of +the line and several frigates, sailed from Cadiz on the 22nd of April, +destined to perform evolutions off the Western Islands, as the Spaniards +say, but really to their American possessions, as is suspected. Thus +the several powers are by little and little, taking the position of war, +without an immediate intention of waging it. But that the present ill +humor will finally end in war, is doubted by nobody. + +In my letter of February the 5th, I had the honor of informing you of +the discontent produced by our _Arret_ of December the 29th, among the +merchants of this country, and of the deputations from the chambers of +commerce to the minister, on that subject. The articles attacked, were +the privileges on the sale of our ships, and the _entrepot_ for codfish. +The former I knew to be valuable: the latter I supposed not so; because +during the whole of the time we have had four free ports in this +kingdom, we have never used them for the smuggling of fish. I concluded, +therefore, the ports of _entrepot_ would not be used for that purpose. I +saw that the ministers would sacrifice something to quiet the merchants, +and was glad to save the valuable article relative to our ships, by +abandoning the useless one for our codfish. It was settled, therefore, +in our conferences, that an _Arret_ should be passed, abridging the +former one only as to the entrepot of codfish. I was in Holland when the +_Arret_ came out; and did not get a copy of it till yesterday. Surprised +to find that fish-oil was thereby also excluded from the entrepot, I +have been to-day to make some inquiry into the cause; and from what I +can learn, I conclude it must have been a mere error in the clerk who +formed the _Arret_, and that it escaped attention on its passage. The +_entrepot_ of whale-oil was not objected to by a single deputy at +the conferences, and the excluding it is contrary to the spirit of +encouragement the ministers have shown a disposition to give. I trust, +therefore, I may get it altered on the first occasion which occurs, +and I believe one will soon occur. In the mean time, we do not store a +single drop for re-exportation, as all which comes here is needed +for the consumption of this country; which will alone, according to +appearances, become so considerable as to require all we can produce. + +By a letter of the 8th instant, from our bankers, I learn that they had +disposed of bonds enough to pay our June interest, and to replace the +temporary advances made by Mr. Grand, and from a fund placed here by the +State of Virginia. I have desired them, accordingly, to replace these +monies, which had been lent for the moment only, and in confidence of +immediate repayment. They add, that the payment of the June interest +and the news from America, will, as they trust, enable them to place +the remaining bonds of the last year's million. I suppose, indeed, that +there is no doubt of it, and that none would have been expressed, if +those two houses could draw better together than they do. In the mean +time, I hope the treasury board will send an order for so much as may be +necessary for executing the purposes of Congress, as to our captives at +Algiers. + +I send you herewith, a _Memoire_ of Monsieur Caseaux, whose name is +familiar on the journals of Congress. He prepared it to be delivered to +the King, but I believe he will think better, and not deliver it. The +gazettes of France and Leyden accompany this. + +I have the honor to be, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + +P. S. May 27, 1788. I have kept my letter open to the moment of Mr. +Warville's departure (he being the bearer of it), that I might add +any new incidents that should occur. The refusal of the _Chatelet_ and +_Grande Chambre_ of Paris to act in the new character assigned them, +continues. Many of the _grandes bailliages_ accept, some conditionally, +some fully. This will facilitate greatly the measures of government, and +may possibly give them a favorable issue. The parliament of Toulouse, +considering the edicts as nullities, went on with their business. They +have been exiled in consequence. Monsieur de St. Priest left Paris for +the Hague, on the 23rd. I mention this fact, because it denotes the +acquiescence of this government in the late revolution there. A second +division of a Spanish fleet will put to sea soon. Its destination +not declared. Sweden is arming to a greater extent than was at first +supposed. From twelve so sixteen sail of the line are spoken of, on good +grounds, Denmark, for her own security, must arm in proportion to this. +T. J. + + + + +LETTER CXXXVII.--TO JOHN BROWN, May 26,1788 + + +TO JOHN BROWN. + +Paris, May 26,1788. + +Dear Sir, + +It was with great pleasure I saw your name on the roll of Delegates, but +I did not know you had actually come onto New-York, till Mr. Paradise +informed me of it. Your removal from Carolina to Kentucky was not an +indifferent event to me. I wish to see that country in the hands of +people well disposed, who know the value of the connection between that +and the maritime States, and who wish to cultivate it. I consider their +happiness as bound up together, and that every measure should be taken, +which may draw the bands of union tighter. It will be an efficacious one +to receive them into Congress, as I perceive they are about to desire +to this be added an honest and disinterested conduct in Congress, as +to every thing relating to them, we may hope for a perfect harmony. The +navigation of the Mississippi was, perhaps, the strongest trial to which +the justice of the federal government could be put. If ever they thought +wrong about it, I trust they have got to rights. I should think it +proper for the western country to defer pushing their right to that +navigation to extremity, as long as they can do without it, tolerably; +but that the moment it becomes absolutely necessary for them, it will +become the duty of the maritime states to push it to every extremity, +to which they would their own right of navigating the Chesapeake, the +Delaware, the Hudson, or any other water. A time of peace will not +be the surest for obtaining this object. Those, therefore, who have +influence in the new country, would act wisely, to endeavor to keep +things quiet till the western parts of Europe shall be engaged in war. +Notwithstanding the aversion of the courts of London and Versailles to +war, it is not certain that some incident may not engage them in it. +England, France, Spain, Russia, Sweden, and Denmark will all have fleets +at sea, or ready to put to sea immediately. Who can answer for the +prudence of all their officers? War is their interest. Even their courts +are pacific from impotence only, not from disposition. I wish to Heaven +that our new government may see the importance of putting themselves +immediately into a respectable position. To make provision for the +speedy payment of their foreign debts, will be the first operation +necessary. This will give them credit. A concomitant one should be, +magazines and manufactures of arms. This country is at present in a +crisis of very uncertain issue. I am in hopes it will be a favorable one +to the rights and happiness of the people; and that this will take place +quietly. Small changes in the late regulations will render them wholly +good. The campaign opens between the Turks and the two empires, with an +aspect rather favorable to the former. The Russians seem not yet thawed +from the winter's torpitude. They have no army yet in motion: and the +Emperor has been worsted in two thirds of the small actions, which +they have had as yet. He is said to be rather retiring. I do not think, +however, that the success of the Turks in the partisan affairs which +have taken place, can authorize us to presume, that they will be +superior also in great decisions. Their want of discipline and skill in +military manoeuvres is of little consequence in small engagements, and +of great in larger ones. Their grand army was at Adrianople by the last +accounts, and to get from thence to Belgrade will require a month. It +will be that time at least then, before we can have any very interesting +news from them. In the mean time, the plague rages at Constantinople to +a terrible degree. I cannot think but that it would be desirable to all +commercial nations, to have that nation and all its dependencies driven +from the sea-coast, into the interior parts of Asia and Africa. What a +field would, thus be restored to commerce! The finest parts of the old +world are now dead, in a great degree, to commerce, to arts, to science, +and to society. Greece, Syria, Egypt, and the northern coast of Africa, +constituted the whole world almost for the Romans, and to us they are +scarcely known, scarcely accessible at all. The present summer will +enable us to judge, what turn this contest will take. I am greatly +anxious to hear that nine States accept our new constitution. We must +be contented to accept of its good, and to cure what is evil in it +hereafter. It seems necessary for our happiness at home; I am sure it is +so for our respectability abroad. I shall, at all times, be glad to hear +from you, from New York, from Kentucky, or whatever region of the +earth you inhabit; being with sentiments of very sincere esteem and +attachment, Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXXVIII.--TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL, May 27, 1788 + + +TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL. + +Paris, May 27, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +Your favors of April the 14th and 29th, and May the 8th, have lately +come to hand. That of January the 29th, by M. de Moinedo, had been left +here during my absence on a journey to Amsterdam. That gentleman had +gone, as I presume, before my return, from my being unable to learn any +thing of him. + +***** + +With respect to the Isthmus of Panama, I am assured by Burgoine (who +would not chose to be named, however), that a survey was made, that a +canal appeared very practicable, and that the idea was suppressed for +political reasons altogether. He has seen and minutely examined the +report. This report is to me a vast _desideratum_, for reasons political +and philosophical. I cannot help suspecting the Spanish squadrons to +be gone to South America, and that some disturbances have been excited +there by the British. The court of Madrid may suppose we would not see +this with an unwilling eye. This may be true as to the uninformed part +of our people: but those who look into futurity farther than the present +moment or age, and who combine well what is, with what is to be, must +see that our interests, well understood, and our wishes are, that Spain +shall (not for ever, but) very long retain her possessions in that +quarter; and that her views and ours must, in a good degree, and for a +long time, concur. It is said in our gazettes, that the Spaniards have +sunk one of our boats on the Mississippi, and that our people retaliated +on one of theirs. But my letters, not mentioning this fact, have made +me hope it is not true, in which hope your letter confirms me. There are +now one hundred thousand inhabitants in Kentucky. They have accepted the +offer of independence, on the terms proposed by Virginia, and they have +decided that their independent government shall begin on the first day +of the next year. In the mean time, they claim admittance into Congress. +Georgia has ceded her western territory to the United States, to take +place with the commencement of the new federal government. I do not know +the boundaries. There has been some dispute of etiquette with the new +French minister, which has disgusted him. + +The following is a state of the progress and prospects of the new plan +of government. + +***** + +The conduct of Massachusetts has been noble. She accepted the +constitution, but voted that it should stand as a perpetual instruction +to her Delegates, to endeavor to obtain such and such reformations; and +the minority, though very strong both in numbers and abilities, declared +_viritim_ and _seriatim_, that acknowledging the principle that the +majority must give the law, they would now support the new constitution +with their tongues, and with their blood, if necessary. I was much +pleased with many and essential parts of this instrument, from the +beginning. But I thought I saw in it many faults, great and small. +What I have read and reflected, has brought me over from several of my +objections, of the first moment, and to acquiesce under some others. Two +only remain, of essential consideration, to wit, the want of a bill of +rights, and the expunging the principle of necessary rotation in the +offices of President and Senator. At first, I wished that when nine +States should have accepted the constitution, so as to insure us what is +good in it, the other four might hold off till the want of the bill of +rights at least, might be supplied. But I am now convinced that the +plan of Massachusetts is the best, that is, to accept and to amend +afterwards. If the States which were to decide after her, should all +do the same, it is impossible but they must obtain the essential +amendments. It will be more difficult, if we lose this instrument, to +recover what is good in it, than to correct what is bad, after we shall +have adopted it. It has, therefore, my hearty prayers, and I wait with +anxiety for news of the votes of Maryland, South Carolina, and Virginia. +There is no doubt that General Washington will accept the presidentship; +though he is silent on the subject. He would not be chosen to the +Virginia convention. A riot has taken place in New York, which I will +state to you from an eye-witness. It has long been a practice with the +surgeons of that city, to steal from the grave bodies recently buried. +A citizen had lost his wife: he went, the first or second evening after +her burial, to pay a visit to her grave.. He found that it had been +disturbed, and suspected from what quarter. He found means to be +admitted to the anatomical lecture of that day, and on his entering the +room, saw the body of his wife, naked and under dissection. He raised +the people immediately. The body, in the mean time, was secreted. They +entered into and searched the houses of the physicians whom they most +suspected, but found nothing. One of them however more guilty or more +timid than the rest, took asylum in the prison. The mob considered +this an acknowledgment of guilt. They attacked the prison. The Governor +ordered militia to protect the culprit, and suppress the mob. The +militia, thinking the mob had just provocation, refused to turn out. +Hereupon the people of more reflection, thinking it more dangerous that +even a guilty person should be punished without the forms of law, +than that he should escape, armed themselves, and went to protect the +physician. They were received by the mob with a volley of stones, which +wounded several of them. They hereupon fired on the mob and killed four. +By this time, they received a reinforcement of other citizens of +the militia horse, the appearance of which, in the critical moment, +dispersed the mob. So ended this chapter of history, which I have +detailed to you, because it may be represented as a political riot, when +politics had nothing to do with it. Mr. Jay and Baron Steuben were both +grievously wounded in the head by stones. The former still kept his bed, +and the latter his room, when the packet sailed, which was the 24th of +April. I am, with sentiments of great esteem and respect, Dear Sir, your +most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXXXIX.--TO JOHN JAY, May 27, 1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +(Private.) Paris, May 27, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +The change which is likely to take place in the form of our government, +seems to render it proper, that, during the existence of the present +government, an article should be mentioned which concerns me personally. +Uncertain, however, how far Congress may have decided to do business +when so near the close of their administration; less capable than those +on the spot of foreseeing the character of the new government; and not +fully confiding in my own judgment, where it is so liable to be seduced +by feeling, I take the liberty of asking your friendly counsel, and that +of my friend Mr. Madison, and of referring the matter to your judgments +and discretion. + +Mr. Barclay when in Europe was authorized to settle all the European +accounts of the United States: he settled those of Dr. Franklin and Mr. +Adams, and it was intended between us, that he should settle mine. +But as what may be done at any time is often put off to the last, this +settlement had been made to give way to others, and that of Beaumarchais +being pressed on Mr. Barclay before his departure for Morocco, and +having long retarded his departure, it was agreed that my affair should +await his return from that mission: you know the circumstances which +prevented his return to Paris after that mission was finished. My +account is therefore unsettled, but I have no anxiety on any article of +it, except one, that is, the outfit. This consists of, 1. clothes; 2. +carriage and horses; 3. household furniture. When Congress made their +first appointments of ministers to be resident in Europe, I have +understood (for I was not then in Congress) that they allowed them all +their expenses, and a fixed sum over and above for their time. Among +their expenses, was necessarily understood their outfit. Afterwards +they thought proper to give them fixed salaries of eleven thousand +one hundred and eleven dollars and one ninth a year; and again, by +a resolution of May the 6th and 8th, 1784, the 'salaries' of their +ministers at foreign courts were reduced to nine thousand dollars, +to take place on the 1st of August ensuing. On the 7th of May I +was appointed, in addition to Mr. Adams and Dr. Franklin, for the +negotiation of treaties of commerce; but this appointment being +temporary, for two years only, and not as of a resident minister, the +article of outfit did not come into question. I asked an advance of six +months' salary, that I might be in cash to meet the first expenses; which +was ordered. The year following, I was appointed to succeed Dr. Franklin +at this court. This was the first appointment of a minister resident, +since the original ones, under which all expenses were to be paid. So +much of the ancient regulation, as respected annual expenses, had been +altered to a sum certain; so much of it as respected first expenses, +or outfit, remained unaltered; and I might therefore expect, that the +actual expenses for outfit were to be paid. When I prepared my account +for settlement with Mr. Barclay, I began a detail of the articles of +clothes, carriage, horses, and household furniture. I found that they +were numerous, minute, and incapable, from their nature, of being +vouched; and often entered in my memorandum-book under a general head +only, so that I could not specify them. I found they would exceed a +year's salary. Supposing, therefore, that, mine being the first case, +Congress would make a precedent of it, and prefer a sum fixed for the +outfit, as well as the salary, I have charged it in my account at a +year's salary; presuming there can be no question that an outfit is a +reasonable charge. It is the usage here (and I suppose at all courts), +that a minister resident, shall establish his house in the first +instant. If this is to be done out of his salary, he will be a +twelvemonth at least without a copper to live on. It is the universal +practice, therefore, of all nations, to allow the outfit as a separate +article from the salary. I have inquired here into the usual amount of +it. I find that, sometimes, the sovereign pays the actual cost. This is +particularly the case of the Sardinian ambassador now coming here, who +is to provide a service of plate, and every article of furniture, and +other matters of first expense, to be paid for by his court. In other +instances, they give a service of plate, and a fixed sum for all other +articles, which fixed sum is in no case lower than a year's salary. + +I desire no service of plate, having no ambition for splendor. My +furniture, carriage, and apparel are all plain, yet they have cost me +more than a year's salary. I suppose that in every country, and in every +condition of life, a year's expense would be found a moderate measure +for the furniture of a man's house. It is not more certain to me, that +the sun will rise to-morrow, than that our government must allow the +outfit, on their future appointment of foreign ministers; and it would +be hard on me, so to stand between the discontinuance of a former rule, +and institution of a future one, as to have the benefit of neither. I +know, I have so long known the character of our federal head, in its +present form, that I have the most unlimited confidence in the justice +of its decisions. I think I am so far known to many of the present +Congress, as that I may be cleared of all views of making money out of +any public employment, or of desiring any thing beyond actual and decent +expenses, proportioned to the station in which they have been pleased to +place me, and to the respect they would wish to see attached to it. It +would seem right, that they should decide the claims of those who +have acted under their administration, and their pretermission of any +article, might amount to a disallowance of it in the opinion of the new +government. It would be painful to me to meet that government with a +claim under this kind of cloud, and to pass it in review before their +several Houses of legislation, and boards of administration, to whom I +shall be unknown; and being for money actually expended, it would be +too inconvenient to me to relinquish it in silence. I anxiously ask it, +therefore, to be decided on by Congress before they go out of office, +if it be not out of the line of proceeding they may have chalked out for +themselves. If it be against their inclination to determine it, would +it be agreeable to them to refer it to the new government, by some +resolution, which should show they have not meant to disallow it, by +passing it over? Not knowing the circumstances under which Congress may +exist and act at the moment you shall receive this, I am unable to judge +what should be done on this subject. It is therefore that I ask the aid +of your friendship and that of Mr. Madison, that you will do for me +in this regard, what you think it is right should be done, and what it +would be right for me to do, were I on the spot, or were I apprized of +all existing circumstances. Indeed, were you two to think my claim +an improper one, I would wish it to be suppressed, as I have so much +confidence in your judgment, that I should suspect my own in any case +where it varied from yours, and more especially, in one where it +is liable to be warped by feeling. Give me leave, then, to ask your +consultation with Mr. Madison on this subject; and to assure you that +whatever you are so good as to do herein, will be perfectly approved, +and considered as a great obligation conferred on him, who has the honor +to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and attachment, Dear +Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXL.*--TO JAMES MADISON, May 28, 1788 + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, May 28, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +The enclosed letter for Mr. Jay, being of a private nature. I have +thought it better to put it under your cover, lest it might be opened +by some of his clerks, in the case of his absence. But I enclose a press +copy of it for yourself, as you will perceive the subject of it referred +to you, as well as to him. I ask your aid in it so far as you think +right, and to have done what you think right. If you will now be so good +as to cast your eye over the copy enclosed, what follows the present +sentence, will be some details, supplementary to that only, necessary +for your information, but not proper for me to state to Mr. Jay. + + [* It will be seen that a few words of this letter are in + cipher. It is published, however, as written, because + enough of it is literal to interest the reader, to whom + also a specimen of the cipher, used by the Author, may + not be unacceptable.] + +378.227.1247. though appointed a minister resident at the court of 514. +he never was 663. in that character. He was continually passing from +1042. to 514. and 514. to 1042., so that he had no occasion to establish +a household at either. Accordingly, he staid principally in furnished +lodgings. Of all our ministers, he had the least occasion for an +outfit, and I suppose spent almost nothing on that article. He was of +a disposition, too, to restrain himself within any limits of expense +whatever, and it suited his recluse turn, which is, to avoid society. +Should he judge of what others should do, by what he did, it would be +an improper criterion. He was in Europe as a voyageur only, and it was +while the salary was five hundred guineas more than at present. + +145.1267.1046.7. he came over, when, instead of outfit and salary, all +expenses were paid. Of rigorous honesty, and careless of appearances, he +lived for a considerable time as an economical private individual. After +he was fixed at 812.141. and the salary at a sum certain, he continued +his economical style, till, out of the difference between his expenses +and his salary, he could purchase furniture for his house. This was the +easier, as the salary was at two thousand five hundred guineas then. +He was obliged, too, to be passing between 1042. and 812.141. so as to +avoid any regular current of expenses. When he established himself, his +pecuniary affairs were under the direction of 964.814.7.101.994., one +of the most estimable characters on earth, and the most attentive and +honorable economists. Neither had a wish to lay up a copper, but both +wished to make both ends meet. I suspected, however, from an expression +dropped in conversation, that they were not able to do this, and that +a deficit in their accounts appeared in their winding up. If this +conjecture be true, it is a proof that the salary, so far from admitting +savings, is unequal to a very plain style of life; for such was theirs. +I presume Congress will be asked to allow it, and it is evident to me, +from what I saw while in 1093. that it ought to be done, as they did +not expend a shilling which should have been avoided. Would it be more +eligible to set the example of making good a deficit, or to give him +an outfit, which will cover it? The impossibility of living on the sum +allowed, respectably, was the true cause of his insisting on his recall. +821.267.1292. He came over while all expenses were paid. He rented a +house with standing furniture, such as tables, chairs, presses, &c., and +bought all other necessaries. The latter were charged in his account; +the former was included in the article of house-rent, and paid during +the whole time of his stay here; and as the established rate of hire +for furniture is from thirty to forty per cent, per annum, the standing +furniture must have been paid for three times over, during the eight +years he staid here. His salary was two thousand five hundred guineas. +When Congress reduced it to less than two thousand, he refused to accede +to it, asked his recall, and insisted that whenever they chose to alter +the conditions on which he came out, if he did not approve of it, they +ought to replace him in America on the old conditions. He lived plain, +but as decently as his salary would allow. He saved nothing, but avoided +debt. He knew he could not do this on the reduced salary, and therefore +asked his recall with decision. + +To 935.145. succeeded. He had established a certain style of living. The +same was expected from 1214. and there were five hundred guineas a +year less to do it on. It has been aimed at, however, as far as was +practicable. This rendered it constantly necessary to step neither to +the right nor to the left, to incur any expense which could possibly be +avoided, and it called for an almost womanly attention to the details +of the household, equally perplexing, disgusting, and inconsistent with +business. You will be sensible, that, in this situation, no savings +could be made for reimbursing the half year's salary, ordered to be +advanced under the former commission, and more than as much again, +which was unavoidably so applied, without order, for the purchase of the +outfit. The reason of the thing, the usage of all nations, the usage of +our own, by paying all expenses of preceding ministers, which gave them +the outfit, as far as their circumstances appeared to them to render it +necessary, have made me take for granted all along, that it would not +be refused to me: nor should I have mentioned it now, but that the +administration is passing into other hands, and more complicated forms. +It would be disagreeable to me to be presented to them, in the first +instance, as a suitor. Men come into business at first with visionary +principles. It is practice alone, which can correct and conform them +to the actual current of affairs. In the mean time, those to whom their +errors were first applied, have been their victims. The government may +take up the project of appointing foreign ministers without outfits, +and they may ruin two or three individuals, before they find that that +article is just as indispensable as the salary. They must then fall into +the current of general usage, which has become general, only because +experience has established its necessity. Upon the whole, be so good as +to reflect on it, and to do, not what your friendship to me, but your +opinion of what is right, shall dictate. + +Accept, in all cases, assurances of the sincere esteem and respect with +which I am, Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXLI.--TO PETER CARU, May 23, 1788 + + +TO PETER CARU. + +Paris, May 23, 1788. + +Dear Peter, + +The preceding letter [* For the letter referred to, see ante, LXXIV.] +was written at its date, and I supposed you in possession of it, when +your letters of December the 10th, 1787, and March the 18th, 1788, told +me otherwise. Still I supposed it on its way to you, when a few days +ago, having occasion to look among some papers in the drawer, where +my letters are usually put away, till an opportunity of sending them +occurs, I found that this letter had slipped among them, so that it +had never been forwarded. I am sorry for it, on account of the remarks +relative to the Spanish language only. Apply to that with all the +assiduity you can. That language and the English covering nearly the +whole face of America, they should be well known to every inhabitant, +who means to look beyond the limits of his farm. I like well the +distribution of your time, mentioned in your letter of March the 18th; +and the counsels of Mr. Wythe, so kindly extended to you, leave it +necessary for me to add nothing of that kind. Be assiduous in learning, +take much exercise for your health, and practise much virtue. Health, +learning, and virtue, will insure your happiness; they will give you +a quiet conscience, private esteem, and public honor. Beyond these, we +want nothing but physical necessaries, and they are easily obtained. +My daughters are well, and join me in love to yourself, your mother, +brothers, and sisters. + +I am, with very sincere esteem, Dear Peter, your affectionate + +friend, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXLII.--TO THE COMTE DE BERNSTORFF, June 19, 1788 + + +TO THE COMTE DE BERNSTORFF. + +Paris, June 19, 1788. + +I had the honor of addressing your Excellency, by Admiral Paul Jones, +on the 21st of January, on the subject of the prizes taken under his +command during the late war, and sent into Bergen. I communicated at the +same time a copy of the powers which the Congress of the United States +of America had been pleased to confide to me therein, having previously +shown the original to the Baron de Blome, Envoy Extraordinary of his +Majesty, the King of Denmark, at this court; and I furnished, at the +same time, to Admiral Paul Jones, such authority as I was empowered +to delegate, for the arrangement of this affair. That officer has +transmitted me a copy of your Excellency's letter to him of the 4th of +April, wherein you are pleased to observe, that the want of full powers +on his part was an invincible obstacle to the definitive discussion of +this claim with him, and to express your dispositions to institute a +settlement at this place. Always assured of the justice and honor of +the court of Denmark, and encouraged by the particular readiness of your +Excellency to settle and remove this difficulty from between the two +nations, I take the liberty of recalling your attention to it. The place +of negotiation proposed by your Excellency, meets no objection from us, +and it removes, at the same time, that which the want of full powers in +Admiral Paul Jones had produced in your mind. These full powers Congress +have been pleased to honor me with. The arrangement taken between the +person to be charged with your full powers and myself, will be final +and conclusive. You are pleased to express a willingness to treat at +the same time on the subjects of amity and commerce. The powers formerly +communicated on our part, were given to Mr. Adams, Doctor Franklin, and +myself, for a limited term only. That term has expired, and the other +two gentlemen returned to America; so that no person is commissioned at +this moment to renew those conferences. I may safely, however, assure +your Excellency, that the same friendly dispositions still continue, and +the same desire of facilitating and encouraging a commerce between the +two nations, which produced the former appointment. But our nation is, +at this time, proposing a change in the organization of its government. +For this change to be agreed to by all the members of the Union, the new +administration chosen and brought into activity, their domestic matters +arranged, which will require their first attention, their foreign system +afterwards decided on and carried into full execution, will require very +considerable length of time. To place under the same delay the private +claims which I have the honor to present to your Excellency, would be +hard on the persons interested: because these claims have no connection +with the system of commercial connection, which may be established +between the two nations, nor with the particular form of our +administration. The justice due to them is complete, and the present +administration as competent to final settlement as any future one will +be, should a future change take place. These individuals have already +lingered nine years in expectation of their hard and perilous earnings. +Time lessens their numbers continually, disperses their representatives, +weakens the evidence of their right, and renders more and more +impracticable his Majesty's dispositions to repair the private injury, +to which public circumstances constrained him. These considerations, the +just and honorable intentions of your Excellency, and the assurances you +give us in your letter, that no delay is wished on your part, give me +strong hopes that we may speedily obtain that final arrangement, which +express instructions render it my duty to urge. I have the honor, +therefore, of agreeing with your Excellency, that the settlement of this +matter, formerly begun at Paris, shall be continued there; and to +ask that you will be pleased to give powers and instructions for this +purpose to such persons as you shall think proper, and in such full form +as may prevent those delays, to which the distance between Copenhagen +and Paris might otherwise expose us. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most profound respect, +your Excellency's most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXLIII.--TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN, June 20, 1788 + + +TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN. + +Paris, June 20, 1788. + +Sir, + +Having had the honor of mentioning to your Excellency the wish of +Congress, that certain changes should be made in the articles for a +consular convention, which had been sent to them, I have now that, +conformably to the desire you expressed, of giving a general idea of the +alterations to be proposed. + +The fourth article gives to the consuls the immunities of the law of +nations. It has been understood, however, that the laws of France do not +admit of this; and that it might be desirable to expunge this article. +In this we are ready to concur, as in every other case, where an article +might call for changes in the established laws, either inconvenient or +disagreeable. + +After establishing in favor of consuls, the general immunities of the +law of nations, one consequence of which would have been, that they +could not have been called upon to give testimony in courts of justice, +the fifth article requires, that after the observance of certain +formalities, which imply very high respect, they shall make a +declaration; but _in their own houses_ [_chez eux_] as may be pretended, +if not justly inferred, from the expressions in the article. But our +laws require, indispensably, a personal examination of witnesses in the +presence of the parties, of their counsel, the jury, and judges, each of +whom has a right to ask of them all questions pertinent to the fact. +The first and highest officers of our government are obliged to appear +personally to the order of a court, to give evidence. The court takes +care that they are treated with respect. It is proposed, therefore, +to omit this article for these particular reasons, as well as for the +general one, that the fourth being expunged, this, which was but an +exception to that, falls of course. + +The seventh, eighth, tenth, and fourteenth articles extend their +pre-eminences far beyond those, which the laws of nations would have +given. These articles require that the declarations made in the presence +of consuls, and certified by them, shall be received in evidence in all +courts whatever: and, in some instances, give to their certificates a +credibility which excludes all other testimony. The cases are rare, in +which our laws admit written evidence of facts; and such evidence, when +admitted, must have been given in the presence of both parties, and must +contain the answers to all the pertinent questions, which they may have +desired to ask of the witness: and to no evidence, of whatever nature, +written or oral, do our laws give so high credit, as to exclude all +counter-proof. These principles are of such ancient foundation in our +system of jurisprudence, and are so much valued and venerated by our +citizens, that perhaps it would be impossible to execute articles, which +should contravene them, nor is it imagined that these stipulations can +be so interesting to this country, as to balance the inconvenience and +hazard of such an innovation with us. Perhaps it might be found, that +the laws of both countries require a modification of this article; as +it is inconceivable that the certificate of an American consul in +France could be permitted by one of its courts to establish a fact, the +falsehood of which should be notorious to the court itself. + +The eighth article gives to the consuls of either nation a jurisdiction, +in certain cases, over foreigners of any other. On a dispute arising in +France, between an American and a Spaniard or an Englishman, it would +not be fair to abandon the Spaniard or Englishman to an American consul. +On the contrary, the territorial judge, as neutral, would seem to be the +most impartial. Probably, therefore, it will be thought convenient for +both parties, to correct this stipulation. + +A dispute arising between two subjects of France, the one being in +France and the other in the United States, the regular tribunals of +France would seem entitled to a preference of jurisdiction. Yet the +twelfth article gives it to their consul in America; and to the consul +of the United States in France, in a like case between their citizens. + +The power given by the tenth article, of arresting and sending back a +vessel, its captain, and crew, is a very great one indeed, and, in +our opinion, more safely lodged with the territorial judge. We would +ourselves trust the tribunals of France to decide, when there is just +cause for so high-handed an act of authority over the persons and +property of so many of our citizens, to all of whom these tribunals will +stand in a neutral and impartial relation, rather than any single person +whom we may appoint as consul, who will seldom be learned in the laws, +and often susceptible of influence from private interest and personal +pique. With us, applications for the arrest of vessels, and of their +masters, are made to the admiralty courts. These are composed of the +most learned and virtuous characters in the several States, and the +maritime law, common to all nations, is the rule of their proceedings. +The exercise of foreign jurisdiction, within the pale of their own +laws, in a very high case, and wherein those laws have made honorable +provisions, would be a phenomenon never yet seen in our country, and +which would be seen with great jealousy and uneasiness. On the contrary, +to leave this power with the territorial judge will inspire confidence +and friendship, and be really, at the same time, more secure against +abuse. The power of arresting deserted seamen seems necessary for the +purposes of navigation and commerce, and will be more attentively and +effectually exercised by the consul, than by the territorial judge. +To this part of the tenth article, therefore, as well as to that which +requires the territorial judge to assist the consul in the exercise of +this function, we can accede. But the extension of the like power to +passengers, seems not necessary for the purposes either of navigation +or commerce. It does not come, therefore, within the functions of the +consul, whose institution is for those two objects only, nor within the +powers of a commissioner, authorized to treat and conclude a convention, +solely for regulating the powers, privileges, and duties of consuls. +The arrest and detention of passengers, moreover, would often be in +contradiction to our bills of rights, which, being fundamental, cannot +be obstructed in their operation by any law or convention whatever. + +Consular institutions being entirely new with us, Congress think it wise +to make their first convention probationary, and not perpetual. They +propose, therefore, a clause for limiting its duration to a certain term +of years. If after the experience of a few years, it should be found to +answer the purposes intended by it, both parties will have sufficient +inducements to renew it, either in its present form, or with such +alterations and amendments, as time, experience, and other circumstances +may indicate. + +The convention, as expressed in the French language, will fully answer +our purposes in France, because it will there be understood. But it will +not equally answer the purposes of France in America, because it will +not there be understood. In very few of the courts, wherein it may be +presented, will there be found a single judge or advocate, capable of +translating it at all, much less of giving to all its terms, legal +and technical, their exact equivalent in the laws and language of +that country. Should any translation which Congress would undertake to +publish, for the use of our courts, be conceived on any occasion not to +render fully the idea of the French original, it might be imputed as an +indirect attempt to abridge or extend the terms of a contract, at the +will of one party only. At no place are there better helps than here, +for establishing an English text equivalent to the French, in all its +phrases; no persons can be supposed to know what is meant by these +phrases, better than those who form them; and no time more proper to +ascertain their meaning in both languages than that at which they are +formed. I have, therefore, the honor to propose, that the convention +shall be faithfully expressed in English as well as in French, in two +columns, side by side, that these columns be declared each of them to be +text, and to be equally original and authentic in all courts of justice. + +This, Sir, is a general sketch of the alterations, which our laws and +our manner of thinking render necessary in this convention, before the +faith of our country is engaged for its execution. Some of its articles, +in their present form, could not be executed at all, and others would +produce embarrassments and ill humor, to which it would not be prudent +for our government to commit itself. Inexact execution on the one part, +would naturally beget dissatisfaction and complaints on the other; and +an instrument intended to strengthen our connection, might thus become +the means of loosening it. Fewer articles, better observed, will better +promote our common interests. As to ourselves, we do not find the +institution of consuls very necessary. Its history commences in times of +barbarism, and might well have ended with them. During these, they were, +perhaps, useful, and may still be so in countries not yet emerged from +that condition. But all civilized nations at this day understand so +well the advantages of commerce, that they provide protection and +encouragement for merchant strangers and vessels coming among them. +So extensive, too, have commercial connections now become, that every +mercantile house has correspondents in almost every port. They address +their vessels to these correspondents, who are found to take better care +of their interests, and to obtain more effectually the protection of the +laws of the country for them, than the consul of their nation can. He is +generally a foreigner, unpossessed of the little details of knowledge +of greatest use to them. He makes national questions of all the +difficulties which arise; the correspondent prevents them. We carry on +commerce with good success in all parts of the world; yet we have not +a consul in a single port, nor a complaint for the want of one, except +from the persons who wish to be consuls themselves. Though these +considerations may not be strong enough to establish the absolute +inutility of consuls, they may make us less anxious to extend their +privileges and jurisdictions, so as to render them objects of jealousy +and irritation, in the places of their residence. That this government +thinks them useful, is sufficient reason for us to give them all the +functions and facilities which our circumstances will admit. Instead, +therefore, of declining every article which will be useless to us, we +accede to every one which will not be inconvenient. Had this nation been +alone concerned, our desire to gratify them might have tempted us to +press still harder on the laws and opinions of our country. But your +Excellency knows, that we stand engaged in treaties with some nations, +which will give them occasion to claim whatever privileges we yield to +any other. This renders circumspection more necessary. Permit me to add +one other observation. The English allow to foreign consuls scarcely any +functions within their ports. This proceeds, in a great measure, from +the character of their laws, which eye, with peculiar jealousy, every +exemption from their control. Ours are the same in their general +character, and rendered still more unpliant, by our having thirteen +parliaments to relax, instead of one. Upon the whole, I hope your +Excellency will see the causes of the delay which this convention has +met with, in the difficulties it presents, and our desire to surmount +them: and will be sensible that the alterations proposed, are dictated +to us by the necessity of our circumstances, and by a caution, which +cannot be disapproved, to commit ourselves to no engagements which we +foresee we might not be able o fulfil. + +These alterations, with some other smaller ones, which may be offered +on the sole principle of joint convenience, shall be the subject of more +particular explanation, whenever your Excellency shall honor me with +a conference thereon. I shall then, also, point out the verbal changes +which appear to me necessary, to accommodate the instrument to the +views before expressed. In the mean time, I have the honor to be, with +sentiments of the most perfect respect and esteem, your Excellency's +most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXLIV.--TO DOCTOR GORDON, July 16, 1788 + +TO DOCTOR GORDON. + +Paris, July 16, 1788. + +Sir, + +In your favor of the 8th instant, you mentioned that you had written to +me in February last. This letter never came to hand. That of April +the 24th came here during my absence on a journey through Holland and +Germany; and my having been obliged to devote the first moments after my +return to some very pressing matters, must be my apology for not having +been able to write to you till now. As soon as I knew that it would be +agreeable to you to have such a disposal of your work for translation, +as I had made for Dr. Ramsay, I applied to the same bookseller with +propositions on your behalf. He told me, that he had lost so much by +that work, that he could hardly think of undertaking another, and, at +any rate, not without first seeing and examining it. As he was the only +bookseller I could induce to give any thing on the former occasion, +I went to no other with my proposal, meaning to ask you to send me +immediately as much of the work as is printed. This you can do by +the Diligence, which comes three times a week from London to Paris. +Furnished with this, I will renew my proposition, and do the best for +you I can; though I fear that the ill success of the translation of +Dr. Ramsay's work, and of another work on the subject of America, will +permit less to be done for you than I had hoped. I think Dr. Ramsay +failed from the inelegance of the translation, and the translator's +having departed entirely from the Doctor's instructions. I will be +obliged to you, to set me down as subscriber for half a dozen copies, +and to ask Mr. Trumbull (No. 2, North street, Rathbone Place) to pay +you the whole subscription price for me, which he will do on showing him +this letter. These copies can be sent by the Diligence. I have not yet +received the pictures Mr. Trumbull was to send me, nor consequently that +of M. de la Fayette. I will take care of it when it arrives. His title +is simply, Le Marquis de la Fayette. + +You ask, in your letter of April the 24th, details of my sufferings by +Colonel Tarleton. I did not suffer by him. On the contrary, he behaved +very genteelly with me. On his approach to Charlottesville, which is +within three miles of my house at Monticello, he despatched a troop of +his horse, under Captain McLeod, with the double object of taking me +prisoner, with the two Speakers of the Senate and Delegates, who then +lodged with me, and of remaining there in _vidette_, my house commanding +a view often or twelve miles round about. He gave strict orders to +Captain McLeod to suffer nothing to be injured. The troop failed in +one of their objects, as we had notice of their coming, so that the +two Speakers had gone off about two hours before their arrival at +Monticello, and myself, with my family, about five minutes. But Captain +McLeod preserved every thing with sacred care, during about eighteen +hours that he remained there. Colonel Tarleton was just so long at +Charlottesville, being hurried from thence by the news of the rising of +the militia, and by a sudden fall of rain which threatened to swell the +river and intercept his return. In general he did little injury to the +inhabitants on that short and hasty excursion, which was of about sixty +miles from their main army, then in Spotsylvania, and ours in Orange. It +was early in June, 1781. Lord Cornwallis then proceeded to the Point of +Fork, and encamped his army from thence all along the main James River, +to a seat of mine called Elk-hill, opposite to Elk Island, and a little +below the mouth of the Byrd Creek. (You will see all these places +exactly laid down in the map annexed to my Notes on Virginia, printed by +Stockdale.) He remained in this position ten days, his own head-quarters +being in my house, at that place. I had time to remove most of the +effects out of the house. He destroyed all my growing crops of corn and +tobacco; he burned all my barns, containing the same articles of the +last year, having first taken what corn he wanted; he used, as was to be +expected, all my stock of cattle, sheep, and hogs, for the sustenance +of his army, and carried off all the horses capable of service; of those +too young for service he cut the throats; and he burned all the fences +on the plantation so as to leave it an absolute waste. He carried off +also about thirty slaves. Had this been to give them freedom, he would +have done right: but it was to consign them to inevitable death from +the small-pox and putrid fever, then raging in his camp. This I knew +afterwards to be the fate of twenty-seven of them. I never had news of +the remaining three, but presume they shared the same fate. When I say +that Lord Cornwallis did all this, I do not mean that he carried about +the torch in his own hands, but that it was all done under his eye; the +situation of the house in which he was, commanding a view of every part +of the plantation, so that he must have seen every fire. I relate these +things on my own knowledge, in a great degree, as I was on the ground +soon after he left it. He treated the rest of the neighborhood somewhat +in the same style, but not with that spirit of total extermination +with which he seemed to rage over my possessions. Wherever he went, the +dwelling-houses were plundered of every thing which could be carried +off. Lord Cornwallis's character in England would forbid the belief that +he shared in the plunder; but that his table was served with the +plate thus pillaged from private houses, can be proved by many hundred +eye-witnesses. From an estimate I made at that time, on the best +information I could collect, I supposed the State of Virginia lost under +Lord Cornwallis's hands, that year, about thirty thousand slaves; and +that of these, about twenty-seven thousand died of the small-pox and +camp-fever, and the rest were partly sent to the West Indies, and +exchanged for rum, sugar, coffee, and fruit, and partly sent to New +York, from whence they went, at the peace, either to Nova Scotia or +England. From this last place, I believe they have been lately sent to +Africa. History will never relate the horrors committed by the British +army, in the southern States of America. They raged in Virginia six +months only, from the middle of April to the middle of October, 1781, +when they were all taken prisoners; and I give you a faithful specimen +of their transactions for ten days of that time, and on one spot only. +_Ex pede Herculem_. I suppose their whole devastations during those six +months, amounted to about three millions sterling. The copiousness of +this subject has only left me space to assure you of the sentiments of +esteem and respect, with which I am, Sir, your most obedient, humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXLV.--TO JAMES MADISON, July 19, 1788 + + +TO JAMES MADISON, _of William and Mary College_. + +Paris, July 19, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +My last letter to you was of the 13th of August last. As you seem +willing to accept of the crumbs of science on which we are subsisting +here, it is with pleasure I continue to hand them on to you, in +proportion as they are dealt out. Herschel's volcano in the moon you +have doubtless heard of, and placed among the other vagaries of a head, +which seems not organized for sound induction. The wildness of the +theories hitherto proposed by him, on his own discoveries, seems to +authorize us to consider his merit as that of a good optician only. You +know also, that Doctor Ingenhouse had discovered, as he supposed from +experiment, that vegetation might be promoted by occasioning streams of +the electrical fluid to pass through a plant, and that other physicians +had received and confirmed this theory. He now, however, retracts it, +and finds by more decisive experiments, that the electrical fluid can +neither forward nor retard vegetation. Uncorrected still of the rage of +drawing general conclusions from partial and equivocal observations, he +hazards the opinion that light promotes vegetation. I have heretofore +supposed from observation, that light affects the color of living +bodies, whether vegetable or animal; but that either the one or the +other receives nutriment from that fluid, must be permitted to be +doubted of, till better confirmed by observation. It is always better to +have no ideas, than false ones; to believe nothing, than to believe what +is wrong. In my mind, theories are more easily demolished than rebuilt. + +An Abbe here, has shaken, if not destroyed, the theory of De Dominis, +Descartes and Newton, for explaining the phenomenon of the rainbow. +According to that theory, you know, a cone of rays issuing from the sun, +and falling on a cloud in the opposite part of the heavens, is reflected +back in the form of a smaller cone, the apex of which is the eye of the +observer: so that the eye of the observer must be in the axis of both +cones, and equally distant from every part of the bow. But he observes, +that he has repeatedly seen bows, the one end of which has been very +near to him, and the other at a very great distance. I have often +seen the same thing myself. I recollect well to have seen the end of a +rainbow between myself and a house, or between myself and a bank, not +twenty yards distant; and this repeatedly. But I never saw, what he +says he has seen, different rainbows at the same time, intersecting +each other. I never saw coexistent bows, which were not concentric +also. Again, according to the theory, if the sun is in the horizon, the +horizon intercepts the lower half of the bow, if above the horizon, that +intercepts more than the half, in proportion. So that generally the bow +is less than a semicircle, and never more. He says he has seen it more +than a semicircle. I have often seen the leg of the bow below my level. +My situation at Monticello admits this, because there is a mountain +there in the opposite direction of the afternoon's sun, the valley +between which and Monticello is five hundred feet deep. I have seen a +leg of a rainbow plunge down on the river running through the valley. +But I do not recollect to have remarked at any time, that the bow was +more than half a circle. It appears to me, that these facts demolish the +Newtonian hypothesis, but they do not support that erected in its stead +by the Abbe. He supposes a cloud between the sun and observer, and that +through some opening in that cloud, the rays pass, and form an iris on +the opposite part of the heavens, just as a ray passing through a hole +in the shutter of a darkened room, and falling on a prism there, forms +the prismatic colors on the opposite wall. According to this, we might +see bows of more than the half circle, as often as of less. A thousand +other objections occur to this hypothesis, which need not be suggested +to you. The result is, that we are wiser than we were, by having an +error the less in our catalogue; but the blank occasioned by it, must +remain for some happier hypothesist to fill up. + +The dispute about the conversion and reconversion of water and air, is +still stoutly kept up. The contradictory experiments of chemists, leave +us at liberty to conclude what we please. My conclusion is, that art has +not yet invented sufficient aids, to enable such subtle bodies to make a +well defined impression on organs as blunt as ours: that it is laudable +to encourage investigation, but to hold back conclusion. Speaking one +day with Monsieur de Buffon on the present ardor of chemical inquiry, he +affected to consider chemistry but as cookery, and to place the toils +of the laboratory on a footing with those of the kitchen. I think it, +on the contrary, among the most useful of sciences, and big with future +discoveries for the utility and safety of the human race. It is yet, +indeed, a mere embryon. Its principles are contested; experiments seem +contradictory; their subjects are so minute as to escape our senses; and +their result too fallacious to satisfy the mind. It is probably an +age too soon, to propose the establishment of a system. The attempt, +therefore, of Lavoisier to reform the chemical nomenclature, is +premature. One single experiment may destroy the whole filiation of +his terms, and his string of sulfates, sulfiles, and sulfures may have +served no other end, than to have retarded the progress of the science, +by a jargon, from the confusion of which, time will be requisite to +extricate us. Accordingly, it is not likely to be admitted generally. + +You are acquainted with the properties of the composition of nitre, +salt of tartar, and sulphur, called _pulvis fulminans_. Of this, the +explosion is produced by heat alone. Monsieur Bertholet, by dissolving +silver in the nitrous acid, precipitating it with lime-water, and drying +the precipitate on ammoniac, has discovered a powder, which fulminates +most powerfully, on coming into contact with any substance whatever. +Once made, it cannot be touched. It cannot be put into a bottle, but +must remain in the capsula, where dried. The property of the spathic +acid, to corrode flinty substances, has been lately applied by a Mr. +Puymaurin, to engrave on glass, as artists engrave on copper, with +aquafortis. + +M. de la Place has discovered, that the secular acceleration and +retardation of the moon's motion, is occasioned by the action of the +sun, in proportion as his excentricity changes, or, in other words, +as the orbit of the earth increases or diminishes. So that this +irregularity is now perfectly calculable. + +Having seen announced in a gazette, that some person had found, in a +library of Sicily, an Arabic translation of Livy, which was thought to +be complete, I got the _charge des affaires_ of Naples here, to write to +Naples to inquire into the fact. He obtained in answer, that an Arabic +translation was found, and that it would restore to us seventeen of the +books lost, to wit, from the sixtieth to the seventy-seventh, inclusive: +that it was in possession of an Abbe Vella, who, as soon as he shall +have finished a work he has on hand, will give us an Italian, and +perhaps a Latin translation of this Livy. There are persons, however, +who doubt the truth of this discovery, founding their doubts on some +personal circumstances relating to the person who says he has this +translation. I find, nevertheless, that the _charge des affaires_ +believes in the discovery, which makes me hope it may be true. + +A countryman of ours, a Mr. Ledyard of Connecticut, set out from hence +some time ago for St. Petersburg, to go thence to Kamtschatka, thence +to cross over to the western coast of America, and penetrate through +the continent, to the other side of it. He had got within a few days' +journey of Kamtschatka, when he was arrested by order of the Empress +of Russia, sent back, and turned adrift in Poland. He went to London; +engaged under the auspices of a private society, formed there for +pushing discoveries into Africa; passed by this place, which he left +a few days ago for Marseilles, where he will embark for Alexandria and +Grand Cairo; thence explore the Nile to its source; cross the head of +the Niger, and descend that to its mouth. He promises me, if he escapes +through his journey, he will go to Kentucky, and endeavor to penetrate +westwardly to the South Sea. + +The death of M. de Buffon you have heard long ago. I do not know whether +we shall have anything posthumous of his. As to political news, this +country is making its way to a good constitution. The only danger is, +they may press so fast as to produce an appeal to arms, which might have +an unfavorable issue for them. As yet the appeal is not made. Perhaps +the war, which seems to be spreading from nation to nation, may reach +them this would insure the calling of the States General, and this, as +is supposed, the establishment of a constitution. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of sincere esteem and respect, +Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXLVI.--TO E. RUTLEDGE, July 18, 1788 + + +TO E. RUTLEDGE. + +Paris, July 18, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +Messrs. Berard were to have given me particular accounts of the proceeds +of the shipments of rice made to them. But they have failed. I fear, +from what they mention, that the price has been less advantageous than +usual; which is unlucky, as it falls the first essay. If on the whole, +however, you get as much as you would have done by a sale on the spot, +it should encourage other adventures, because the price at Havre or +Rouen is commonly higher, and because I think you may, by trials, find +out the way to avail yourselves of the Paris retail price. The Carolina +rice, sold at Paris, is separated into three kinds; 1. the whole grains; +2. the broken grains; 3. the small stuff; and sell at ten, eight, and +six livres the French pound, retail. The whole grains, which constitute +the first quality, are picked out by hand. I would not recommend this +operation to be done with you, because labor is dearer there than here. +But I mention these prices, to show, that after making a reasonable +deduction for sorting, and leaving a reasonable profit to the retailer, +there should still remain a great wholesale price. I shall wish to know +from you, how much your cargo of rice shipped to Berard netts you, and +how much it would have _netted_ in hard money, if you had sold it at +home. + +You promise, in your letter of October the 23rd, 1787, to give me in +your next, at large, the conjectures of your philosopher on the descent +of the Creek Indians from the Carthaginians, supposed to have been +separated from Hanno's fleet, during his periplus. I shall be very glad +to receive them, and see nothing impossible in his conjecture. I am glad +he means to appeal to similarity of language, which I consider as the +strongest kind of proof it is possible to adduce. I have somewhere read, +that the language of the ancient Carthaginians is still spoken by their +descendants, inhabiting the mountainous interior parts of Barbary, to +which they were obliged to retire by the conquering Arabs. If so, a +vocabulary of their tongue can still be got, and if your friend will get +one of the Creek languages, the comparison will decide. He probably may +have made progress in this business: but if he wishes any inquiries to +be made on this side the Atlantic, I offer him my services cheerfully; +my wish being, like his to ascertain the history of the American +aborigines. + +I congratulate you on the accesion of your State to the new federal +constitution. This is the last I have yet heard of, but I expect daily +to hear that my own has followed the good example, and suppose it to be +already established. Our government wanted bracing. Still we must take +care not to run from one extreme to another; not to brace too high. I +own, I join those in opinion, who think a bill of rights necessary. I +apprehend too, that the total abandonment of the principle of rotation +in the offices of President and Senator, will end in abuse. But my +confidence is, that there will, for a long time, be virtue and good +sense enough in our countrymen, to correct abuses. We can surely boast +of having set the world a beautiful example of a government reformed by +reason alone, without bloodshed. But the world is too far oppressed to +profit by the example. On this side of the Atlantic, the blood of the +people has become an inheritance, and those who fatten on it, will +not relinquish it easily. The struggle in this country is, as yet, +of doubtful issue. It is, in fact, between the monarchy and the +parliaments. The nation is no otherwise concerned, but as both parties +may be induced to let go some of its abuses, to court the public favor. +The danger is, that the people, deceived by a false cry of liberty, may +be led to take side with one party, and thus give the other a pretext +for crushing them still more. If they can avoid the appeal to arms, the +nation will be sure to gain much by this controversy. But if that appeal +is made, it will depend entirely on the disposition of the army, whether +it issue in liberty or despotism. Those dispositions are not as yet +known. In the mean time, there is great probability that the war kindled +in the east, will spread from nation to nation, and, in the long run, +become general. + +***** + +I am, with the most sincere esteem and attachment, my dear; Sir, your +friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXLVII.--TO MR. BELLINI, July 25,1788 + + +TO MR. BELLINI. + +Paris, July 25,1788. + +Dear Sir, + +Though I have written to you seldom, you are often the object of +my thoughts, and always of my affection. The truth is, that the +circumstances with which I am surrounded, offer little worth detailing +to you. You are too wise to feel an interest in the squabbles, in +which the pride, the dissipations, and the tyranny of kings, keep this +hemisphere constantly embroiled. Science, indeed, finds some aliment +here, and you are one of her sons. But this I have pretty regularly +communicated to Mr. Madison, with whom, I am sure, you participate of +it. It is with sincere pleasure I congratulate you on the good fortune +of our friend Mazzei, who is appointed here, to correspond with the King +of Poland. The particular character given him is not well defined, but +the salary is, which is more important. It is eight thousand livres a +year, which will enable him to live comfortably, while his duties will +find him that occupation, without which he cannot exist. Whilst this +appointment places him at his ease, it affords a hope of permanence +also. It suspends, if not entirely prevents, the visit he had intended +to his native country, and the return to his adoptive one, which the +death of his wife had rendered possible. This last event has given him +three quarters of the globe elbow-room, which he had ceded to her, on +condition she would leave him quiet in the fourth. Their partition of +the next world will be more difficult, if it be divided only into two +parts, according to the protestant faith. Having seen by a letter you +wrote him, that you were in want of a pair of spectacles, I undertook +to procure you some, which I packed in a box of books addressed to Mr. +Wythe, and of which I beg your acceptance. This box lay forgotten at +Havre the whole of the last winter, but was at length shipped, and I +trust has come to hand. I packed with the spectacles three or four pair +of glasses, adapted to the different periods of life, distinguished from +each other by numbers, and easily changed. You see I am looking forward +in hope of a long life for you; and that it may be long enough to carry +you through the whole succession of glasses, is my sincere prayer. +Present me respectfully to Mrs. Bellini, assure her of my affectionate +remembrance of her, and my wishes for her health and happiness; and +accept yourself very sincere professions of the esteem and attachment +with which I am, Dear Sir, your affectionate friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXLVIII.--TO JAMES MADISON, July 31, 1788 + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, July 31, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +My last letters to you were of the 3rd and the 25th of May. Yours from +Orange, of April the 22nd, came to hand on the 10th instant. + +My letter to Mr. Jay containing all the public news that is well +authenticated, I will not repeat it here, but add some details in the +smaller way, which you may be glad to know. The disgrace of the Marquis +de la Fayette, which, at any other period of their history, would have +had the worst consequences for him, will, on the contrary, mark him +favorably to the nation, at present. During the present administration, +he can expect nothing; but perhaps it may serve him with their +successors, whenever a change shall take place. No change of the +Principal will probably take place, before the meeting of the States +General; though a change is to be wished, for his operations do not +answer the expectations formed of him. These had been calculated, on his +brilliancy in society. He is very feebly aided too. Montmorin is weak, +though a most worthy character. He is indolent and inattentive too, +in the extreme. Luzerne is considerably inferior in abilities to his +brother, whom you know. He is a good man too, but so much out of his +element, that he has the air of one _huskanoyed_. The _Garde des Sceaux_ +is considered as the Principal's bull-dog, braving danger like the +animal. His talents do not pass mediocrity. The Archbishop's brother, +and the new minister Villedeuil, and Lambert, have no will of their +own. They cannot raise money for the peace establishment the next +year, without the States General; much less if there be war; and their +administration will probably end with the States General. + +Littlepage, who was here as a secret agent for the King of Poland, +rather overreached himself. He wanted more money. The King furnished it, +more than once. Still he wanted more, and thought to obtain a high bid, +by saying he was called for in America, and asking leave to go there. +Contrary to his expectation, he received leave; but he went to Warsaw +instead of America, and from thence, to join the * * * * I do not know + + [* Several paragraphs of this letter are in cipher, A few + words here could not be deciphered.] + +these facts certainly, but collect them, by putting several things +together. The King then sent an ancient secretary here, in whom he had +much confidence, to look out for a correspondent, a mere letter-writer +for him. A happy hazard threw Mazzei in his way. He recommended him, +and he is appointed. He has no diplomatic character whatever, but is to +receive eight thousand livres a year, as an intelligencer. I hope +this employment may have some permanence. The danger is, that he will +over-act his part. + +The Marquis de la Luzerne had been for many years married to his +brother's wife's sister, secretly. She was ugly and deformed, but +sensible, amiable, and rather rich. When he was ambassador to London, +with ten thousand guineas a year, the marriage was avowed, and he +relinquished his cross of Malta, from which he derived a handsome +revenue for life, and which was very open to advancement. Not long ago, +she died. His real affection for her, which was great and unfeigned, and +perhaps the loss of his order, for so short-lived a satisfaction, has +thrown him almost into a state of despondency. He is now here. + +I send you a book of Dupont's, on the subject of the commercial treaty +with England. Though its general matter may not be interesting, yet +you will pick up, in various parts of it, such excellent principles and +observations, as will richly repay the trouble of reading it. I send +you, also, two little pamphlets of the Marquis de Condorcet, wherein is +the most judicious statement I have seen, of the great questions +which agitate this nation at present. The new regulations present a +preponderance of good over their evil; but they suppose that the +King can model the constitution at will, or, in other words, that his +government is a pure despotism. The question then arising is, whether a +pure despotism in a single head, or one which is divided among a king, +nobles, priesthood, and numerous magistracy, is the least bad. I should +be puzzled to decide: but I hope they will have neither, and that they +are advancing to a limited, moderate government, in which the people +will have a good share. + +I sincerely rejoice at the acceptance of our new constitution by +nine States. It is a good canvass, on which some strokes only want +retouching. What these are, I think are sufficiently manifested by the +general voice from north to south, which calls for a bill of rights. +It seems pretty generally understood, that this should go to juries, +_habeas corpus_, standing armies, printing, religion, and monopolies. +I conceive there may be difficulty in finding general modifications of +these, suited to the habits of all the States. But if such cannot be +found, then it is better to establish trials by jury, the right of +_habeas corpus_, freedom of the press, and freedom of religion, in all +cases, and to abolish standing armies in time of peace, and monopolies +in all cases, than not to do it in any. The few cases wherein these +things may do evil, cannot be weighed against the multitude, wherein the +want of them will do evil. In disputes between a foreigner and a native, +a trial by jury may be improper. But if this exception cannot be agreed +to, the remedy will be to model the jury, by giving the _medietas +linguae_, in civil as well as criminal cases. Why suspend the _habeas +corpus_ in insurrections and rebellions? The parties who may be +arrested, may be charged instantly with a well-defined crime: of course, +the judge will remand them. If the public safety requires, that the +government should have a man imprisoned on less probable testimony in +those than in other emergencies, let him be taken and tried, retaken and +retried, while the necessity continues, only giving him redress against +the government, for damages. Examine the history of England. See how +few of the cases of the suspension of the _habeas corpus_ law have been +worthy of that suspension. They have been either real treason, wherein +the parties might as well have been charged at once, or sham plots, +where it was shameful they should ever have been suspected. Yet for the +few cases, wherein the suspension of the _habeas corpus_ has done real +good, that operation is now become habitual, and the minds of the nation +almost prepared to live under its constant suspension. A declaration, +that the federal government will never restrain the presses from +printing any thing they please, will not take away the liability of the +printers for false facts printed. The declaration, that religious faith +shall be unpunished, does not give impunity to criminal acts, dictated +by religious error. The saying--there shall be no monopolies, lessens +the incitements to ingenuity, which is spurred on by the hope of a +monopoly for a limited time, as of fourteen years; but the benefit of +even limited monopolies is too doubtful, to be opposed to that of their +general suppression. If no check can be found to keep the number of +standing troops within safe bounds, while they are tolerated as far as +necessary, abandon them altogether, discipline well the militia, +and guard the magazines with them. More than magazine guards will be +useless, if few, and dangerous, if many. No European nation can ever +send against us such a regular army as we need fear, and it is hard, if +our militia are not equal to those of Canada or Florida. My idea then, +is, that though proper exceptions to these general rules are desirable, +and probably practicable, yet if the exceptions cannot be agreed on, +the establishment of the rules, in all cases, will do ill in very few. +I hope, therefore, a bill of rights will be formed, to guard the people +against the federal government, as they are already guarded against +their State governments, in most instances. The abandoning the principle +of necessary rotation in the Senate, has, I see, been disapproved by +many: in the case of the President, by none. I readily, therefore, +suppose my opinion wrong, when opposed by the majority, as in the former +instance, and the totality, as in the latter. In this, however, I should +have done it with more complete satisfaction, had we all judged from the +same position. + +Solicitations, which cannot be directly refused, oblige me to trouble +you often with letters, recommending and introducing to you persons who +go from hence to America. I will beg the favor of you to distinguish +the letters wherein I appeal to recommendations from other persons, from +those which I write on my own knowledge. In the former, it is never my +intention to compromit myself or you. In both instances, I must beg you +to ascribe the trouble I give you, to circumstances which do not leave +me at liberty to decline it. + +I am, with very sincere esteem, Dear Sir, your affectionate friend and +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXLIX.--TO JOHN JAY, August 3, 1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, August 3, 1788. + +Sir, + +My last letters to you were of the 4th and 23d of May, with a Postscript +of the 27th. Since that, I have been honored with yours of April the +24th, May the 16th, and June the 9th. + +The most remarkable internal occurrences since my last are these. The +_Noblesse_ of Bretagne, who had received with so much warmth the late +innovations in the government, assembled, and drew up a memorial to the +King, and chose twelve members of their body to come and present it. +Among these was the Marquis de la Rouerie (Colonel Armand). The King, +considering the _Noblesse_ as having no legal right to assemble, +declined receiving the memorial. The deputies, to give greater weight to +it, called a meeting of the landed proprietors of Bretagne, resident at +Paris, and proposed to them to add their signatures--They did so, to the +number of about sixty, of whom the Marquis de la Fayette was one. The +twelve deputies, for having called this meeting, were immediately +sent to the Bastile where they now are, and the Parisian signers were +deprived of such favors as they held of the court. There were only four +of them, however, who held any thing of that kind. The Marquis de la +Fayette was one of these. They had given him a military command, to +be exercised in the south of France, during the months of August and +September of the present year. This they took from him; so that he is +disgraced, in the ancient language of the court, but in truth, honorably +marked in the eyes of the nation. The ministers are so sensible of +this, that they have had, separately, private conferences with him, to +endeavor, through him, to keep things quiet. From the character of the +province of Bretagne, it was much apprehended, for some days, that the +imprisonment of their deputies would have produced an insurrection. +But it took another turn. The _Cours intermediaire_ of the province, +acknowledged to be a legal body, deputed eighteen members of their body +to the King. To these he gave an audience, and the answer, of which I +send you a copy. This is hard enough. Yet I am in hopes the appeal to +the sword will be avoided, and great modifications in the government be +obtained without bloodshed. As yet none has been spilt, according to +the best evidence I have been able to obtain, notwithstanding what the +foreign newspapers have said to the contrary. The convocation of the +States General has now become inevitable. Whenever the time shall be +announced certainly, it will keep the nation quiet till they meet. +According to present probabilities, this must be in the course of the +next summer; but to what movements their meeting and measures may give +occasion, cannot be foreseen. Should a foreign war take place, still +they must assemble the States General, because they cannot, but by +their aid, obtain money to carry it on. Monsieur de Malesherbes will, I +believe, retire from the King's Council. He has been much opposed to +the late acts of authority. The Baron de Breteuil has resigned his +secretaryship of the domestic department; certainly not for the same +reasons, as he is known to have been of opinion, that the King had +compromitted too much of his authority. The real reason has probably +been, an impatience of acting under a principal minister. His successor +is M. de Villedeuil, lately Comptroller General. + +The ambassadors of Tippoo Saib have arrived here. If their mission has +any other object than that of pomp and ceremony, it is not yet made +known. Though this court has not avowed that they are in possession of +Trincomale, yet the report is believed, and that possession was taken by +General Conway, in consequence of orders given in the moment that they +thought a war certain. The dispute with the States General of the United +Netherlands, on account of the insult to M. de St. Priest, does not tend +as yet towards a settlement. He has obtained leave to go to the waters, +and perhaps from thence he may come to Paris, to await events. Sweden +has commenced hostilities against Russia, by the taking a little +fortress by land. This having been their intention, it is wonderful, +that when their fleet lately met three Russian ships of one hundred guns +each, they saluted instead of taking them. The Empress has declared war +against them in her turn. It is well understood, that Sweden is set +on by England, and paid by the Turks. The prospect of Russia has much +brightened by some late successes. Their fleet of galleys and gun-boats, +twenty-seven in number, having been attacked by fifty-seven Turkish +vessels of the same kind, commanded by the Captain Pacha, these were +repulsed, with the loss of three vessels. In the action, which was on +the 18th of June, Admiral Paul Jones commanded the right wing of the +Russians, and the Prince of Nassau the left. On the 26th of the same +month, the Turkish principal fleet, that is to say, their ships of the +line, frigates, &c, having got themselves near the swash, at the +mouth of the Borysthenes, the Prince of Nassau took advantage of their +position, attacked them while so engaged in the mud that they could not +manoeuvre, burnt six, among which were the admiral's and vice-admiral's, +took two, and made between three and four thousand prisoners. The first +reports gave this success to Admiral Paul Jones; but it is now rendered +rather probable that he was not there, as he commands the vessels of war +which are said not to have been there. It is supposed, that his presence +in the affair of the 18th was accidental. But if this success has been +so complete as it is represented, the Black Sea must be tolerably open +to the Russians: in which case, we may expect, from what we know of that +officer, that he will improve to the greatest advantage the situation of +things on that sea. The Captain Pacha's standard was taken in the last +action, and himself obliged to make his escape in a small vessel. Prince +Potemkin immediately got under march for Oczakow, to take advantage of +the consternation into which that place was thrown. + +The Spanish squadron, after cruising off the Western Isles and Cape St. +Vincent, has returned into port. + +A dispute has arisen between the Papal See and the King of Naples, which +may, in its progress, enable us to estimate what degree of influence +that See retains at the present day. The kingdom of Naples, at an early +period of its history, became feudatory to the See of Rome, and in +acknowledgment thereof, has annually paid a hackney to the Pope in +Rome, to which place it has always been sent by a splendid embassy. The +hackney has been refused by the King this year, and the Pope, giving +him three months to return to obedience, threatens, if he does not, to +proceed seriously against him. + +About three weeks ago a person called on me, and informed me, that Silas +Deane had taken him in for a sum of one hundred and twenty guineas, and +that being unable to obtain any other satisfaction, he had laid hands on +his account book and letter book, and had brought them off to Paris, +to offer them first to the United States, if they would repay him his +money, and if not, that he should return to London, and offer them +to the British minister. I desired him to leave them with me four and +twenty hours, that I might judge whether they were worth our notice. He +did so. They were two volumes. One contained all his accounts with the +United States, from his first coming to Europe to January the 10th, +1781. Presuming that the treasury board was in possession of this +account till his arrival in Philadelphia, August, 1778, and that he had +never given in the subsequent part, I had that subsequent part copied +from the book, and now enclose it, as it may on some occasion or other, +perhaps, be useful in the treasury office. The other volume contained +all his correspondences from March the 30th to August the 23d, 1777. I +had a list of the letters taken by their dates and addresses, which will +enable you to form a general idea of the collection. On perusal of many +of them, I thought it desirable that they should not come to the hands +of the British minister, and from an expression dropped by the possessor +of them, I believe he would have fallen to fifty or sixty guineas. I did +not think them important enough, however, to justify my purchasing +them without authority; though, with authority, I should have done it. +Indeed, I would have given that sum to cut out a single sentence, which +contained evidence of a fact, not proper to be committed to the hands +of enemies. I told him I would state his proposition to you, and await +orders. I gave him back the books, and he returned to London without +making any promise, that he would await the event of the orders you +might think proper to give. + +News of the accession of nine States to the new form of federal +government has been received here about a week. I have the honor to +congratulate you sincerely on this event. Of its effect at home, you +are in the best situation to judge. On this side the Atlantic, it +is considered as a very wise reformation. In consequence of this, +speculations are already begun here, to purchase up our domestic +liquidated debt. Indeed, I suspect that orders may have been previously +lodged in America to do this, as soon as the new constitution was +accepted effectually. If it is thought that this debt should be retained +at home, there is not a moment to lose; and I know of no means of +retaining it, but those I suggested to the treasury board, in my letter +to them of March the 29th. The transfer of these debts to Europe will +excessively embarrass, and perhaps totally prevent the borrowing any +money in Europe, till these shall be paid off. This is a momentous +object, and, in my opinion, should receive instantaneous attention. + +The gazettes of France, to the departure of my letter, will accompany +it, and those of Leyden to the 22nd of July, at which time their +distribution in this country was prohibited. How long the prohibition +may continue, I cannot tell. As far as I can judge, it is the only paper +in Europe worth reading. Since the suppression of the packet-boats, I +have never been able to find a safe conveyance for a letter to you, till +the present by Mrs. Barclay. Whenever a confidential person shall be +going from hence to London, I shall send my letters for you to the +care of Mr. Trumbull, who will look out for safe conveyances. This will +render the epochs of my writing very irregular. There is a proposition +under consideration, for establishing packet-boats on a more economical +plan, from Havre to Boston; but its success is uncertain, and still +more, its duration. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CL.--TO COLONEL MONROE, August 9, 1788 + + +TO COLONEL MONROE. + +Paris, August 9, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +Since my last to you, I have to thank your for your favors of July the +27th, 1787, and April the 10th, 1788, and the details they contained; +and in return, will give you now the leading circumstances of this +continent. + +***** + +This nation is at present under great internal agitation. The authority +of the crown on one part, and that of the parliaments on the other, are +fairly at issue. Good men take part with neither, but have raised an +opposition, the object of which is to obtain a fixed and temperate +constitution. There was a moment when this opposition ran so high, as to +endanger an appeal to arms, in which case, perhaps, it would have been +crushed. The moderation of government has avoided this, and they are +yielding daily one right after another to the nation. They have given +them Provincial Assemblies, which will be very perfect representations +of the nation, and stand somewhat in the place of our State Assemblies; +they have reformed the criminal law; acknowledged the King cannot lay a +new tax, without the consent of the States General; and they will call +the States General the next year. The object of this body, when met, +will be a bill of rights, a civil list, a national assembly meeting at +certain epochs, and some other matters of that kind. So that I think +it probable this country will, within two or three years, be in the +enjoyment of a tolerably free constitution, and that without its having +cost them a drop of blood; for none has yet been spilt, though the +English papers have set the whole nation to cutting throats. + +Be assured of those sentiments of esteem and attachment, with which I +am, Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLI.--TO MONSIEUR DE CREVE-COEUR, August 9, 1788 + + +TO MONSIEUR DE CREVE-COEUR. + +Paris, August 9, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +While our second revolution is just brought to a happy end with you, +yours here is but cleverly under way. For some days I was really +melancholy with the apprehension, that arms would be appealed to, and +the opposition crushed in its first efforts. But things seem now to wear +a better aspect. While the opposition keeps at its highest wholesome +point, government, unwilling to draw the sword, is not forced to do it. +The contest here is exactly what it was in Holland: a contest between +the monarchical and aristocratical parts of the government for a +monopoly of despotism over the people. The aristocracy in Holland, +seeing that their common prey was likely to escape out of their +clutches, chose rather to retain its former portion, and therefore +coalesced with the single head. The people remained victims. Here, +I think, it will take a happier turn. The parliamentary part of the +aristocracy is alone firmly united. The _Noblesse_ and Clergy, but +especially the former, are divided partly between the parliamentary and +the despotic party, and partly united with the real patriots, who +are endeavoring to gain for the nation what they can, both from the +parliamentary and the single despotism. I think I am not mistaken in +believing, that the King and some of his ministers are well affected to +this band; and surely, that they will make great cessions to the +people, rather than small ones to the parliament. They are, accordingly, +yielding daily to the national reclamations, and will probably end in +according a well-tempered constitution. They promise the States General +for the next year, and I have good information that an Arret will appear +the day after to-morrow, announcing them for May, 1789. How they will be +composed, and what they will do, cannot be foreseen. Their convocation, +however, will tranquillize the public mind, in a great degree, till +their meeting. There are, however, two intervening difficulties. 1. +Justice cannot till then continue completely suspended, as it now is. +The parliament will not resume their functions, but in their entire +body. The _bailliages_ are afraid to accept of them. What will be done? +2. There are well-founded fears of a bankruptcy before the month of May. +In the mean time, the war is spreading from nation to nation. Sweden +has commenced hostilities against Russia; Denmark is showing its teeth +against Sweden; Prussia against Denmark; and England too deeply engaged +in playing the back game, to avoid coming forward, and dragging this +country and Spain in with her. But even war will not prevent the +assembly of the States General, because it cannot be carried on without +them. War, however, is not the most favorable moment for divesting the +monarchy of power. On the contrary, it is the moment when the energy of +a single hand shows itself in the most seducing form. + +A very considerable portion of this country has been desolated by a +hail. I considered the newspaper accounts of hailstones of ten pounds +weight as exaggerations. But in a conversation with the Duke de la +Rochefoucault the other day, he assured me, that though he could not +say he had seen such himself, yet he considered the fact as perfectly +established. Great contributions, public and private, are making for the +sufferers. But they will be like the drop of water from the finger of +Lazarus. There is no remedy for the present evil, nor way to prevent +future ones, but to bring the people to such a state of ease, as not to +be ruined by the loss of a single crop. This hail may be considered as +the _coup de grace_ to an expiring victim. In the arts there is nothing +new discovered since you left us, which is worth communicating. Mr. +Paine's iron bridge was exhibited here with great approbation. An +idea has been encouraged of executing it in three arches at the King's +garden. But it will probably not be done. + +I am, with sentiments of perfect esteem and attachment, Dear Sir, your +most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLII.--TO JOHN JAY, August 10, 1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, August 10, 1788. + +Sir, + +I have waited till the last moment of Mrs. Barclay's departure, to write +you the occurrences since my letter of the 3rd instant. We have received +the Swedish account of an engagement between their fleet and the +Russian, on the Baltic, wherein they say they took one, and burned +another Russian vessel, with the loss of one on their side, and that the +victory remained with them. They say, at the same time, that their fleet +returned into port, and the Russians kept the sea; we must, therefore, +suspend our opinion till we get the Russian version of this engagement. +The Swedish manifesto was handed about to-day at Versailles, by the +Swedish ambassador, in manuscript. The King complains that Russia has +been ever endeavoring to sow divisions in his kingdom, in order to +re-establish the ancient constitution; that he has long borne it, +through a love of peace, but finds it no longer bearable: that still, +however, he will make peace on these conditions; 1. That the Empress +punishes her minister for the note he gave in to the court of Stockholm; +2. that she restore Crimea to the Turks; and 3. that she repay to him +all the expenses of his armament. The Russian force, in vessels of war +on the Black Sea, are five frigates, and three ships of the line; but +those of the line are shut up in port, and cannot come out till Oczakow +shall be taken. This fleet is commanded by Paul Jones, with the rank of +rear-admiral. The Prince of Nassau commands the galleys and gun-boats. +It is now ascertained, that the States General will assemble the next +year, and probably in the month of May. Tippoo Saib's ambassadors had +their reception to-day at Versailles with unusual pomp. The presence was +so numerous, that little could be caught of what they said to the king, +and he answered to them: from what little I could hear, nothing more +passed than mutual assurances of good will. The name of the Marechal +de Richelieu is sufficiently remarkable in history, to justify +my mentioning his death, which happened two days ago; he was aged +ninety-two years. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLIII.--TO JOHN JAY, August 11, 1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, August 11, 1788. + +Sir, + +In my letter of the last night, written in the moment of Mrs. Barclay's +departure, I had the honor of mentioning to you, that it was now pretty +certain that the States General would be assembled in the next year, +and probably in the month of May. This morning an _Arret_ is published, +announcing that their meeting is fixed on the first day of May next, of +which I enclose you a copy by post, in hopes it will get to Bordeaux in +time for Mrs. Barclay. This _Arret_ ought to have a great effect towards +tranquillizing the nation. There are still, however, two circumstances +which must continue to perplex the administration. The first is, the +want of money, occasioned not only by the difficulty of filling up the +loan of the next year, but by the withholding the ordinary supplies of +taxes, which is said to have taken place in some instances: this +gives apprehension of a bankruptcy under some form or other, and has +occasioned the stocks to fall, in the most alarming manner. The second +circumstance is, that justice, both civil and criminal, continues +suspended. The parliament will not resume their functions, but with +their whole body, and the greater part of the _bailliages_ declined +acting; the present _Arret_ announces a perseverance in this plan. I +have information from Algiers, of the 5th of June, that the plague is +raging there, with great violence; that one of our captives was dead of +it, and another ill, so that we have there, in all, now, only fifteen or +sixteen; that the captives are more exposed to its ravages, than +others; that the great redemptions by the Spaniards, Portuguese, and +Neapolitans, and the havoc made by the plague, had now left not more +than four hundred slaves in Algiers; so that their redemption was become +not only exorbitant, but almost inadmissible; that common sailors were +held at four hundred pounds sterling, and that our fifteen or sixteen +could probably not be redeemed for less than from twenty-five to thirty +thousand dollars. An Algerine cruiser, having twenty-eight captives of +Genoa aboard, was lately chased ashore, by two Neapolitan vessels: the +crew and captives got safe ashore, and the latter, of course, recovered +their freedom. The Algerine crew was well treated, and would be sent +back by the French. But the government of Algiers demands of France, +sixty thousand sequins, or twenty-seven thousand pounds sterling, for +the captives escaped; that is, nearly one thousand pounds each. The +greater part of the regency were for an immediate declaration of war +against France; but the Dey urged the heavy war the Turks were at +present engaged in; that it would be better not to draw another power +on them, at present; that they would decline renewing the treaty of +one hundred years, which expired two years ago, so as to be free to act +hereafter; but, for the present, they ought to accept payment for the +captives, as a satisfaction. They accordingly declared to the French +consul, that they would put him, and all his countrymen there, into +irons, unless the sixty thousand sequins were paid: the consul told +them, his instructions were, positively, that they should not be paid. +In this situation stood matters between that pettifogging nest of +robbers and this great kingdom, which will finish, probably, by +crouching under them, and paying the sixty thousand sequins. From the +personal characters of the present administration, I should have hoped, +under any other situation than the present, they might have ventured to +quit the beaten track of politics hitherto pursued, in which the honor +of their nation has been calculated at nought, and to join in a league +for keeping up a perpetual cruise against these pirates, which, though a +slow operation, would be a sure one for destroying all their vessels and +seamen, and turning the rest of them to agriculture. But a desire of not +bringing upon themselves another difficulty, will probably induce the +ministers to do as their predecessors have done. + +August 12. The enclosed paper of this morning gives some particulars +of the action between the Russians and Swedes, the manifesto of the +Empress, and the declaration of the court of Versailles, as to the +affair of Trincomale. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of perfect esteem and respect, +Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLIV.--TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL, August 12, 1788 + + +TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL. + +Paris, August 12, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +Since my last to you, I have been honored with yours of the 18th and +29th of May, and 5th of June. My latest American intelligence is of the +24th of June, when nine certainly, and probably ten States, had accepted +the new constitution, and there was no doubt of the eleventh (North +Carolina), because there was no opposition there. In New York, two +thirds of the State were against it, and certainly if they had been +called to the decision, in any other stage of the business, they +would have rejected it; but before they put it to the vote, they would +certainly have heard that eleven States had joined in it, and they +would find it safer to go with those eleven, than put themselves into +opposition, with Rhode Island only. Though I am much pleased with this +successful issue of the new constitution, yet I am more so, to find that +one of its principal defects (the want of a declaration of rights) will +pretty certainly be remedied. I suppose this, because I see that +both people and conventions, in almost every State, have concurred in +demanding it. Another defect, the perpetual re-eligibility of the +same President, will probably not be cured, during the life of General +Washington. His merit has blinded our countrymen to the danger of making +so important an officer re-eligible. I presume there will not be a vote +against him, in the United States. It is more doubtful, who will be +Vice-President. The age of Dr. Franklin, and the doubt whether he would +accept it, are the only circumstances that admit a question, but that he +would be the man. After these two characters of first magnitude, there +are so many which present themselves equally, on the second line, that +we cannot see which of them will be singled out. John Adams, Hancock, +Jay, Madison, Rutledge, will be all voted for. Congress has acceded to +the prayer of Kentucky to become an independent member of the Union. A +committee was occupied in settling the plan of receiving them, and their +government is to commence on the 1st day of January next. + +You are, I dare say, pleased, as I am, with the promotion of our +countryman, Paul Jones. He commanded the right wing, in the first +engagement between the Russian and Turkish galleys; his absence from +the second, proves his superiority over the Captain Pacha, as he did not +choose to bring his ships into the shoals in which the Pacha ventured, +and lost those entrusted to him. I consider this officer as the +principal hope of our future efforts on the ocean. You will have heard +of the action between the Swedes and Russians, on the Baltic; as yet, +we have only the Swedish version of it. I apprehend this war must catch +from nation to nation, till it becomes general. + +With respect to the internal affairs of this country, I hope they will +be finally well arranged, and without having cost a drop of blood. +Looking on as a by-stander, no otherwise interested, than as +entertaining a sincere love for the nation in general, and a wish to see +their happiness promoted, keeping myself clear of the particular +views and passions of individuals, I applaud extremely the patriotic +proceedings of the present ministry. Provincial Assemblies established, +the States General called, the right of taxing the nation without their +consent abandoned, _corvees_ abolished, torture abolished, the +criminal code reformed, are facts which will do eternal honor to their +administration, in history. But were I their historian, I should not +equally applaud their total abandonment of their foreign affairs. A +bolder front in the beginning, would have prevented the first loss, and +consequently, all the others. Holland, Prussia, Turkey, and Sweden, lost +without the acquisition of a single new ally, are painful reflections +for the friends of France. They may, indeed, have in their places the +two empires, and perhaps Denmark; in which case, physically speaking, +they will stand on as good ground as before, but not on as good moral +ground. Perhaps, seeing more of the internal working of the machine, +they saw, more than we do, the physical impossibility of having money +to carry on a war. Their justification must depend on this, and their +atonement, on the internal good they are doing to their country; this +makes me completely their friend. + +I am, with great esteem and attachment, Dear Sir, you friend and +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLV.--TO M. CATHALAN, August 13,1788 + + +TO M. CATHALAN. + +Paris, August 13,1788. + +Sir, + +I have to acknowledge the receipt of your two favors, of June, and +July the 11th, and to thank you for the political intelligence they +contained, which is always interesting to me. I will ask a continuance +of them, and especially that you inform me, from time to time, of the +movements in the ports of Marseilles and Toulon, which may seem to +indicate peace or war. These are the most certain presages possible; and +being conveyed to me from all the ports, they will always enable me to +judge of the intentions or expectations of the ministry, and to notify +you of the result of the intelligence from all the ports, that you may +communicate it to the American commerce. + +I have the pleasure to inform you, that the new constitution proposed to +the United States, has been established by the votes of nine States. +It is happy for us to get this operation over before the war kindled in +Europe could affect us, as by rendering us more respectable, we shall be +more probably permitted, by all parties, to remain neutral. + +I take the liberty of putting under your cover a letter for Mr. Bernard, +containing some seeds, and another to Giuseppe Chiappe, our consul +at Mogadore. I thank you for your settlement of the price of the +_Observations Meteorologiques_, and I have repaid the sixty livres to +Sir John Lambert, in your name. When the nursery man, whom you have been +so good as to employ to prepare the olives and olive plants, to be sent +to Charleston, shall be executing that commission, I shall be glad if +he will, at the same time, prepare a few plants only, of the following +kinds. Figs, the best kind for drying, and the best kind for eating +fresh, raisins, the best kind for drying, prugnolles, cork trees, +pistaches, capers. I desire only a few plants of each of these, that +they may not take too much of the place of the olives, which is our +great object, and the sole one we have at heart. If you will be so good +as to give the nursery man this order immediately, it will save you the +necessity of recurring to my letter, when the season comes. + +I have the honor to be, with great and sincere esteem, Sir, your most +obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLVI.--TO JOHN JAY, August 20,1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, August 20,1788. + +Sir, + +I had the honor to write to you on the 3rd, 10th, and 11th instant, with +a postscript of the 12th; all of which went by Mrs. Barclay. Since that +date, we have received an account of a third victory obtained by the +Russians over the Turks, on the Black Sea, in which the Prince of +Nassau, with his galleys, destroyed two frigates, three smaller vessels, +and six galleys. The Turkish power on that sea is represented, by their +enemies, as now annihilated. There is reason to believe, however, that +this is not literally true, and that aided by the supplies furnished by +the English, they are making extraordinary efforts to re-establish +their marine. The Russian minister here has shown the official report of +Admiral Greigh, on the combat of July the 17th, in which he claims the +victory, and urges in proof of it, that he kept the field of battle. +This report is said to have been written on it. As this paper, together +with the report of the Swedish admiral, is printed in the Leyden gazette +of the 15th instant, I enclose it to you. The court of Denmark has +declared, it will furnish Russia the aid stipulated in their treaty: and +it is not doubted they will go beyond this, and become principals in the +war. The next probable moves are, that the King of Prussia will succor +Sweden; and Poland, Russia, by land: and a possible consequence is, that +England may send a squadron into the Baltic, to restore equilibrium in +that sea. In my letter of the 11th, I observed to you, that this country +would have two difficulties to struggle with, till the meeting of their +States General, and that one of these was the want of money: this has, +in fact, overborne all their resources, and the day before yesterday, +they published an _Arret_, suspending all reimbursements of capital, and +reducing the payments of the principal mass of demands for interest, +to twelve sous in the livre; the remaining eight sous to be paid with +certificates. I enclose you a newspaper with the _Arret_. In this paper +you will see the exchange of yesterday, and I have inserted that of +the day before, to show you the fall. The consternation is, as yet, too +great to let us judge of the issue. It will probably ripen the public +mind to the necessity of a change in their constitution, and to the +substituting the collected wisdom of the whole, in place of a single +will, by which they have been hitherto governed. It is a remarkable +proof of the total incompetency of a single head to govern a nation +well, when, with a revenue of six hundred millions, they are led to a +declared bankruptcy, and to stop the wheels of government, even in its +most essential movements, for want of money. + +I send the present letter by a private conveyance to a sea-port, in +hopes a conveyance may be found by some merchant vessel. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLVII.--TO MR. CUTTING, August 23, 1788 + + +TO MR. CUTTING. + +Paris, August 23, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +I have duly received your favors of the 3rd, 8th, 14th, and 15th +instant, and have now the honor of enclosing you a letter of +introduction to Doctor Ramsay. + +I think a certainty that England and France must enter into the war, was +a great inducement to the ministry here to suspend the portion of public +payments, which they have lately suspended. By this operation, they +secure two hundred and three millions of livres, or eight millions and a +half of guineas, in the course of this and the ensuing year, which +will be sufficient for the campaign of the first year: for what is to, +follow, the States General must provide. The interesting question now +is, how the States General shall be composed? There are three opinions. +1. To place the three estates, Clergy, _Noblesse_, and Commons, in three +different Houses. The Clergy would, probably, like this, and some of +the Nobility; but it has no partisans out of those orders. 2. To put the +Clergy and _Noblesse_ into one House, and the Commons into another. The +_Noblesse_ will be generally for this. 3. To put the three orders +into one House, and make the Commons the majority of that House. This +re-unites the greatest number of partisans, and I suspect it is well +patronized in the ministry, who, I am persuaded, are proceeding +_bona fide_, to improve the constitution of their country. As to the +opposition which the English expect from the personal character of the +King, it proves they do not know what his personal character is. He is +the honestest man in his kingdom, and the most regular and economical. +He has no foible which will enlist him against the good of his people; +and whatever constitution will promote this, he will befriend. But he +will not befriend it obstinately: he has given repeated proofs of a +readiness to sacrifice his opinion to the wish of the nation. I believe +he will consider the opinion of the States General, as the best evidence +of what will please and profit the nation, and will conform to it. All +the characters at court may not be of this disposition, and from thence +may, possibly, arise representations, capable of leading the King +astray; but upon a full view of all circumstances, I have sanguine +hopes, that such a constitution will be established here, as will +regenerate the energy of the nation, cover its friends, and make its +enemies tremble. I am, with very great esteem, Dear Sir, your friend and +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLVIII.--TO JOHN JAY, September 3, 1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, September 3, 1788. + +Sir, + +By Mrs. Barclay I had the honor of sending you letters of the 3rd, 10th, +and 11th of August; since which, I wrote you of the 20th of the same +month, by a casual conveyance, as is the present. + +In my letter of the 20th, I informed you of the act of public bankruptcy +which had taken place here. The effect of this would have been a forced +loan of about one hundred and eighty millions of livres, in the course +of the present and ensuing year. But it did not yield a sufficient +immediate relief. The treasury became literally moneyless, and all +purposes depending on this mover came to a stand. The Archbishop was +hereupon removed, with Monsieur Lambert, the Comptroller General; and +Mr. Necker was called in, as Director General of the finance. To soften +the Archbishop's dismission, a cardinal's hat is asked for him from +Rome, and his nephew promised the succession to the Archbishopric of +Sens. The public joy, on this change of administration, was very great +indeed. The people of Paris were amusing themselves with trying and +burning the Archbishop in effigy, and rejoicing on the appointment +of Mr. Necker. The commanding officer of the city-guards undertook +to forbid this, and not being obeyed, he charged the mob with fixed +bayonets, killed two or three, and wounded many: this stopped their +rejoicings for that day; but enraged at being thus obstructed in +amusements wherein they had committed no disorder whatever, they +collected in great numbers the next day, attacked the guards in various +places, burnt ten or twelve guard-houses, killed two or three of the +guards, and had about six or eight of their own number killed. The +city was hereupon put under martial law, and after a while, the tumult +subsided, and peace was restored. The public stocks rose ten per cent, +on the day of Mr. Necker's appointment: he was immediately offered +considerable sums of money, and has been able so far to wave the benefit +of the act of bankruptcy, as to pay in cash all demands, except the +_remboursements des capitaux_. For these, and for a sure supply of +other wants, he will depend on the States General, and will hasten their +meetings, as is thought. No other change has yet taken place in the +administration. The minister of war, however, must certainly follow his +brother, and some think, and all wish, that Monsieur de Lamoignon, the +_Garde des Sceaux_, may go out also. The administration of justice is +still suspended. The whole kingdom seems tranquil at this moment. + +Abroad, no event worth noting has taken place since my last. The court +of Denmark has not declared it will do any thing more, than furnish the +stipulated aid to Russia. The King of Prussia has as yet made no move, +which may decide whether he will engage in the war, nor has England sent +any squadron into the Baltic. As the season for action is considerably +passed over, it is become more doubtful, whether any other power will +enter the lists till the next campaign; this will give time for stopping +the further progress of the war, if they really wish to stop it. Two +camps of twenty-five thousand men each are forming in this country on +its northern limits. The Prince of Conde has the command of one, and the +Duke de Broglio of the other. + +I trouble you with the enclosed letter from a Henry Watson, claiming +prize monies, as having served under Admiral Paul Jones, which I suppose +should go to the treasury, or war-office. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble; servant, + +Th: Jefferson, + + + + +LETTER CLIX.--TO THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE TREASURY, Sep. 6, 1788 + + +TO THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE TREASURY. + +Paris, September 6, 1788. + +Gentlemen, + +Your favor of July the 3rd came to hand some days ago, and that of July +the 22nd in the afternoon of yesterday. Knowing that a Mr. Vannet was to +leave Paris this morning to go to Virginia in a vessel bound from Havre +to Potomac, I have engaged him to receive the papers which are the +subject of those letters, to take care of them from thence to Havre, +and on the voyage; and when he shall have arrived in Potomac, instead +of going directly to Richmond, as he intended, he will proceed with them +himself to New York. I shall pay here all expenses to their delivery at +the ship's side in America, freight included: unless, perhaps, he may +find it necessary to put another covering over them, if he should not +be able to get them into the cabin; in this case, you will have to +reimburse him for that. I engage to him that you shall pay him their +transportation from the ship's side to New York, and his own reasonable +expenses from the place of his landing to New York, and back to the +place of landing. As he takes that journey for this object only, it +would be reasonable that you give him some gratuity for his time and +trouble, and I suppose it would be accepted by him; but I have made no +agreement for this. The papers are contained in a large box and a trunk. +They were sent here by Mr. Ast, during my absence in Holland. When they +arrived at the gates of Paris, the officers of the customs opened the +trunk, to see whether it contained dutiable articles; but finding only +books and papers, they concluded the contents of the box to be of the +same nature, and did not open that. You receive it, therefore, as it +came from the hands of Mr. Ast. A small trunk, which came as a third +package from Mr. Ast, and which has never been opened, I have put into +the great trunk, without displacing, or ever having touched a single +paper, except as far as was necessary to make room for that. I shall +have the whole corded and plumbed by the Custom-house here, not only to +prevent their being opened at the Custom-houses on the road, and at the +port of exportation, but to prove to you, whether they shall have been +opened by any body else after going out of my hands. If the stamped +leads are entire, and the cords uncut, when you receive them, you will +be sure they have not been opened; they will be wrapt in oil-cloth here +to guard them against the damps of the sea; and, as I mentioned +before, Mr. Vannet will put them under another covering, if he finds it +necessary, at Havre. + +At the same time with your last letter, I received from the office of +Foreign Affairs the ratification by Congress of the loan of 1788, for +another million of guilders. As the necessity of this loan resulted +from the estimate made by Mr. Adams and myself, which estimate was laid +before Congress, I suppose their ratification of the loan implies that +of the estimate. One article of this was for the redemption of our +captives at Algiers. Though your letter says nothing on this subject, +I am in hopes you have sent orders to the commissioners of the loans +at Amsterdam to furnish, as soon as they shall have it, what may be +necessary for this pressing call. So also for the foreign officers. If +the ratification of the loan has been made by Congress, with a view +to fulfil the objects of the estimate, a general order from you to the +commissioners of the loans at Amsterdam, to pay the monies from time to +time, according to that estimate, or to such other as you shall furnish +them with, might save the trouble of particular orders on every single +occasion, and the disappointments arising from the delay or miscarriage +of such orders: but it is for you to decide on this. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect respect, +Gentlemen, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLX.--TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN, + + +TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN. + +Paris, September 11, 1788. + +Sir, + +In the course of the last war, the house of Schweighaeuser and Dobree of +Nantes, and Puchilberg of L'Orient, presented to Dr. Franklin a demand +against the United States of America. He, being acquainted with the +circumstances of the demand, and knowing it to be unfounded, refused +to pay it. They thereupon procured seizure, by judiciary authority, of +certain arms and other military stores which we had purchased in this +country, and had deposited for embarkation at Nantes: and these +stores have remained in that position ever since. Congress have lately +instructed me to put an end to this matter. Unwilling to trouble your +Excellency, whenever it can be avoided, I proposed to the parties to +have the question decided by arbitrators, to be chosen by us jointly. +They have refused it, as you will see by their answers to my letters, +copies of both which I have the honor to enclose you. I presume it to +be well settled in practice, that the property of one sovereign is not +permitted to be seized within the dominions of another; and that this +practice is founded not only in mutual respect, but in mutual utility. +To what the contrary practice would lead, is evident in the present +case, wherein military stores have been stopped, in the course of a war, +in which our greatest difficulties proceeded from the want of military +stores. In their letter, too, they make a merit of not having seized +one of our ships of war, and certainly the principle which admits the +seizure of arms, would admit that of a whole fleet, and would often +furnish an enemy the easiest means of defeating an expedition. The +parties obliging me, then, to have recourse to your Excellency on this +occasion, I am under the necessity of asking an order from you for the +immediate delivery of the stores and other property of the United States +at Nantes, detained by the house of Schweighaeuser and Dobree, and that +of Puchilberg, or by either of them, under a pretence of a judicial +seizure. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect respect and +esteem, your Excellency's most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXI.--TO M. DE REYNEVAL, September 16, 1788 + + +TO M. DE REYNEVAL. + +Sir, + +Paris, September 16, 1788. + +I have the honor now to enclose you my observations on the alteration +proposed in the consular convention. There remain only three articles of +those heretofore in question between us, to which I am unable to +agree; that is to say, the second, proposing still to retain personal +immunities for the consuls, and others attached to their office; the +eighth, proposing that the navigation code of each nation shall be +established in the territories of the other; and the ninth, insisting +that the ship's roll shall be conclusive evidence that a person belongs +to the ship. + +There are several new matters introduced into the draught: some of these +are agreed to; others cannot be admitted, as being contrary to the +same principles which had obliged me to disagree to some of the former +articles. The greatest part of the eleventh, and the whole of the +twelfth new articles, are in this predicament. They propose, that no +person shall be arrested on board a merchant vessel, for any cause, but +in presence of the consul; that no such vessel shall be visited, but +in his presence; and that when the officers of justice have reason to +believe that a criminal has taken refuge on board a vessel of war, the +captain's word shall be conclusive evidence that he is not there. + +To the objections which I had the honor of stating in my letter to his +Excellency, the Count de Montmorin, I have now that of adding some other +observations, of which I request your perusal. I enclose with them a +draught, on the basis of the one you were pleased to give me, altered so +as to reconcile it to the spirit of our laws. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXII.--TO THE MARQUIS DE LA ROUERIE, September 16,1788 + + +TO THE MARQUIS DE LA ROUERIE. + +Paris, September 16,1788. + +Sir, + +On receiving the first letters which you did me the honor to write to me +on the arrears due to you from the United States, I informed you that +I had nothing to do in the money department; that the subject of your +letters belonged altogether to the treasury board, and to Mr. Grand, +their banker here, to the former of whom I forwarded your letters. As +I felt an anxiety, however, that the foreign officers should be paid, I +took the liberty of pressing the treasury board, from time to time, to +exert themselves for that effect; and I availed myself of an opportunity +which occurred last spring, of setting on foot measures, which, with +their approbation, might furnish the means of effecting this payment. +So far my information to you went, and I added a supposition, that the +treasury board would probably give orders on the subject, in the course +of the month of July. But I made you no promise; it would have been +strange if I had; nor does my office, nor any thing I have ever said +or done, subject me to the demand of immediate payment, which you are +pleased to make on me, nor call on me for any declaration or answer, +positive or negative. + +Finding that my interference, which was friendly only, and avowed to be +inofficial, has given occasion to your letter of yesterday, in a style +which I did not expect, and to which I can have no motive for +further exposing myself, I must take the liberty of desiring that the +correspondence between us on this subject may cease. I presume that the +certificate given you points out the person, here or elsewhere, to whom +your applications are to be made, and that he will inform you when he +receives orders on your subject. + +I am, Sir, your humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXIII.--TO WILLIAM SHORT, September 20, 1788 + + +TO WILLIAM SHORT. + +Paris, September 20, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +The evening of your departure, a letter came by the way of London and +New York, addressed to you, and probably from Virginia. I think you +wished your American letters to remain here; I shall therefore keep it. +The passport now enclosed came the day after your departure; so also +did a mass of American letters for me, as low down as August the 10th. +I shall give you their substance. The convention of Virginia annexed +to their ratification of the new constitution a copy of the State +declaration of rights, not by way of condition, but to announce +their attachment to them. They added also propositions for specific +alterations of the constitution. Among these was one for rendering the +President incapable of serving more than eight years, in any term of +sixteen. New York has followed the example of Virginia, expressing the +substance of her bill of rights (that is, Virginia's), and proposing +amendments: these last differ much from those of Virginia; but they +concur as to the President, only proposing that he shall be incapable +of being elected more than twice. But I own I should like better than +either of these, what Luther Martin tells us was repeatedly voted and +adhered to by the federal convention, and only altered about twelve days +before their rising, when some members had gone off; to wit, that he +should be elected for seven years, and incapable for ever after. But New +York has taken another step, which gives uneasiness; she has written a +circular letter to all the legislatures, asking their concurrence in +an immediate convention for making amendments. No news yet from North +Carolina. Electors are to be chosen the first Wednesday in January; +the President to be elected the first Wednesday in February; the new +legislature to meet the third week in March:--the place is not yet +decided on. Philadelphia was first proposed, and had six and a half +votes; the half vote was Delaware, one of whose members wanted to take +a vote on Wilmington; then Baltimore was proposed and carried, and +afterwards rescinded: so that the matter stood open as ever on the 10th +of August; but it was allowed the dispute lay only between New York and +Philadelphia, and rather thought in favor of the last. The Rhode Island +Delegates had retired from Congress. Dr. Franklin was dangerously ill +of the gout and stone on the 21st of July. My letters of August the 10th +not mentioning him, I hope he was recovered. Warville, &c. were arrived. +Congress had referred the decision, as to the independence of Kentucky, +to the new government. Brown ascribes this to the jealousy of the +northern States, who want Vermont to be received at the same time, +in order to preserve a balance of interests in Congress. He was just +setting out for Kentucky, disgusted, yet disposed to persuade to an +acquiescence, though doubting they would immediately separate from the +Union. The principal obstacle to this, he thought, would be the Indian +war. + +The following is a quotation from a letter from Virginia, dated July the +12th. 'P------n, though much impaired in health, and in every respect in +the decline of life, showed as much zeal to carry the new constitution, +as if he had been a young man; perhaps more than he discovered in the +commencement of the late revolution,in his opposition to Great Britain. +W------e acted as chairman to the committee of the whole, and of course +took but little part in the debate; but was for the adoption, relying +on subsequent amendments. B------r said nothing, but was for it. The +G------r exhibited a curious spectacle to view. Having refused to sign +the paper, every body supposed him against it; but he afterwards had +written a letter, and having taken a part, which might be called rather +vehement than active, he was constantly laboring to show, that his +present conduct was consistent with that letter, and that letter with +his refusal to sign. M--d--n took the principal share in the debate for +it; in which, together with the aid I have already mentioned, he was +somewhat assisted by I--nn--s, Lee, M------l, C------n, and G. N------s. +M--s--n, H------y, and Gr------n were the principal supporters of the +opposition. The discussion, as might be expected, where the parties +were so nearly on a balance, was conducted generally with great order, +propriety, and respect of either party to the other.' + +The assembly of Virginia, hurried to their harvests, would not enter +into a discussion of the district bill, but suspended it to the next +session. E. Winston is appointed a judge, vice Gabriel Jones, resigned. +R. Goode and Andrew Moore, Counsellors, vice B. Starke, dead, and Joseph +Egglestone, resigned. It is said Wilson, of Philadelphia, is talked of +to succeed Mr. A. in London. _Quaere?_ + +The dispute about Virgil's tomb and the laurel, seems to be at length +settled, by the testimony of two travellers, given separately, and +without a communication with each other. These both say, that attempting +to pluck off a branch of the laurel, it followed their hand, being, in +fact, nothing more than a plant or bough recently cut, and stuck in the +ground for the occasion. The Cicerone acknowledged the roguery, and said +they practised it with almost every traveller, to get money. You will, +of course, tug well at the laurel which shall be shown you, to see if +this be the true solution. + +The President Dupaty is dead. Monsieur de Barentin, _premier president +de la cour des aides_, is appointed _Garde des Sceaux_. The stocks are +rather lower than when you left this. Present me in the most friendly +terms to Messrs. Shippen and Rutledge. I rely on your communicating to +them the news, and, therefore, on their pardoning me for not repeating +it in separate letters to them. You can satisfy them how necessary this +economy of my time and labor is. This goes to Geneva _poste restante_. I +shall not write again till you tell me where to write to. + +Accept very sincere assurances of the affection, with which I am, Dear +Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th; Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXIV.--TO JOHN JAY, September 24,1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, September 24,1788. + +Sir, + +Understanding that the vessel is not yet sailed from Havre, which is +to carry my letters of the 3rd and 5th instant, I am in hopes you will +receive the present with them. The Russian accounts of their victories +on the Black Sea must have been greatly exaggerated. According to these, +the Captain Pacha's fleet was annihilated; yet themselves have lately +brought him on the stage again, with fifteen ships of the line, in order +to obtain another victory over him. I believe the truth to be, that he +has suffered some checks, of what magnitude it is impossible to say, +where one side alone is heard, and that he is still master of that sea. +He has relieved Oczakow, which still holds out; Choczim also is still +untaken, and the Emperor's situation is apprehended to be bad. He spun +his army into a long cord, to cover several hundred miles of frontier, +which put it in the power of the Turks to attack with their whole force +wherever they pleased. Laudon, now called to head the imperial army, is +endeavoring to collect it; but in the mean time the campaign is drawing +to a close, and has been worse than fruitless. The resistance of Russia +to Sweden has been successful in every point by sea and land, This, with +the interference of Denmark, and the discontent of the Swedish nation; +at the breach of their constitution, by the King's undertaking an +offensive war without the consent of the Senate, has obliged him to +withdraw his attacks by land, and to express a willingness for peace; +one third of his officers have refused to serve. England and Prussia +have offered their mediation between Sweden and Russia, in such +equivocal terms, as to leave themselves at liberty to say it was an +offer, or was not, just as it shall suit them. Denmark is asking the +counter-offer of mediation from this court. If England and Prussia make +a peace effectually in the north (which it is absolutely in their power +to do), it will be a proof they do not intend to enter into the war; +if they do not impose a peace, I should suspect they mean to engage +themselves; as one can hardly suppose they would let the war go on in +its present form, wherein Sweden must be crushed between Russia and +Denmark. + +The _Garde des Sceaux_, M. de Lamoignon, was dismissed the 14th instant, +and M. de Barentin is appointed in his room. The deputies of Bretagne +are released from the Bastile, and M. d'Epermesnil and M. Sabatier +recalled from their confinement. The parliament is not yet reinstated; +but it is confidently said it will be this week. The stocks continue +low, and the treasury under a hard struggle to keep the government in +motion. It is believed the meeting of the States General will be as +early as January, perhaps December. I have received a duplicate of the +ratification of the loan of 1788, by Congress, and a duplicate of a +letter of July the 22nd, from the treasury board, on another subject, +but none on that of the captives, or foreign officers. I suppose +some cause of delay must have intervened between the ratification of +Congress, and the consequent orders of the treasury board. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant; + +Th: Jefferson, + + + + +LETTER CLXV.--TO M. DE REYNEVAL, October 1, 1788 + + +TO M. DE REYNEVAL. + +Paris, October 1, 1788 + +Sir, + +I have now the honor of enclosing to you a copy of the letter of +September the 16th, which I had that of writing to his Excellency +the Count de Montmorin, with the papers therein referred to, and of +soliciting the order I have asked for. The originals were sent at the +date before mentioned. Notwithstanding the refusal of the houses of +Schweighaeuser and Dobree, and of Puchilberg, to settle their claim +against the United States by arbitration, as I proposed to them, the +United States will still be ready to do them justice. But those houses +must first retire from the only two propositions they have ever made; +to wit, either a payment of their demand without discussion, or a +discussion before the tribunals of the country. In the mean time, I +shall hope an acknowledgment with respect to us, of the principle which +holds as to other nations; that our public property here cannot be +seized by the territorial judge. It is the more interesting to us, as +we shall be more and longer exposed than other nations, to draw arms +and military stores from Europe. Our preference of this country has +occasioned us to draw them from hence alone, since the peace: and the +friendship we have constantly experienced from the government, will, we +doubt not, on this and every other occasion, insure to us the protection +of what we purchase. I have the honor to be, Sir, your friend and +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXVI.--TO MR. CUTTING, October 2, 1788 + +TO MR. CUTTING. + +Paris, October 2, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +I am now to acknowledge the receipt of your favors of the 16th and +23rd ultimo and to thank you for the intelligence they conveyed. That +respecting the case of the interrogatories in Pennsylvania, ought +to make noise. So evident a heresy in the common law ought not to be +tolerated on the authority of two or three civilians, who happened, +unfortunately, to make authority in the courts of England. I hold it +essential, in America, to forbid that any English decision which has +happened since the accession of Lord Mansfield to the bench, should ever +be cited in a court: because, though there have come many good ones +from him, yet there is so much sly poison instilled into a great part of +them, that it is better to proscribe the whole. Can you inform me what +has been done by England on the subject of our wheat and flour? +The papers say it is prohibited, even in Hanover. How do their +whale-fisheries turn out, this year? I hope a deep wound will be given +them in that article soon, and such as will leave us in no danger from +their competition. + +***** + +I am, with very great esteem, Dear Sir, your most obedient, humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + +LETTER CLXVII.--TO JOHN JAY, November 14, 1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, November 14, 1788. + +Sir, + +In my letter of December the 21st, 1787, I had the honor of +acknowledging the receipts of your two favors of July the 27th, 1787, +which had come to my hands December the 19th, and brought with them +my full powers for treating on the subject of the consular convention. +Being then much engaged in getting forward the _Arret_ which came out +the 29th of December, and willing to leave some interval between +that act, and the solicitation of a reconsideration of our consular +convention, I had declined mentioning it, for some time, and was just +about to bring it on the carpet, when it became necessary for me to go +to Amsterdam. Immediately after my return, which was about the last +of April, I introduced the subject to the Count de Montmorin, and have +followed it unremittingly, from that time. The office of Marine, as well +as that of Foreign Affairs, being to be consulted in all the stages of +the negotiation, has protracted its conclusions till this time: it is +at length signed this day, and I have now the honor to enclose the +original, for the ratification of Congress. The principal changes +effected are the following: + +The clauses of the Convention of 1784, clothing consuls with privileges +of the law of nations, are struck out, and they are expressly subjected, +in their persons and property, to the laws of the land. + +That giving the right of sanctuary to their houses, is reduced to a +protection of their chancery room and its papers. + +Their coercive powers over passengers are taken away; and over those, +whom they might have termed deserters of their nation, are restrained to +deserted seamen only. + +The clause, allowing them to arrest and send back vessels, is struck +out, and instead of it, they are allowed to exercise a police over the +ships of their nation generally. + +So is that, which declared the indelibility of the character of subject, +and the explanation and extension of the eleventh article of the treaty +of amity. + +The innovations in the laws of evidence are done away: and the +convention is limited to twelve years' duration. Convinced that the fewer +examples, the better, of either persons or causes unamenable to the laws +of the land, I could have wished, still more had been done; but more +could not be done, with good humor. The extensions of authority given +by the convention of 1784, were so homogeneous with the spirit of this +government, that they were prized here. Monsieur de Reyneval has had the +principal charge of arranging this instrument with me; and, in justice +to him, I must say, I could not have desired more reasonable and +friendly dispositions, than he demonstrated through the whole of it. + +I enclose herewith the several schemes successively proposed between us, +together with the copies of the written observations given in with them, +and which served as texts of discussion, in our personal conferences. +They may serve as a commentary on any passage which may need it, either +now or hereafter, and as a history how any particular passage comes to +stand as it does. No. 1. is the convention of 1784. No. 2. is my first +scheme. No. 3. theirs in answer to it. No. 4. my next, which brought us +so near together, that, in a conference on that, we arranged it in the +form in which it has been signed. I add No. 5. the copy of a translation +which I have put into their hands, with a request, that if they find any +passages in which the sense of the original is not faithfully rendered, +they will point them out to me; otherwise, we may consider it as having +their approbation. This, and the convention of 1784, (marked No. 1.) are +placed side by side, so as to present to the eye, with less trouble, the +changes made; and I enclose a number of printed copies of them, for the +use of the members, who will have to decide on the ratification. It is +desirable that the ratification should be sent here for exchange, as +soon as possible. + +With respect to the consular appointments, it is a duty on me to add +some observations, which my situation here has enabled me to make. +I think it was in the spring of 1784, that Congress (harassed by +multiplied applications from foreigners, of whom nothing was known but +on their own information, or on that of others as unknown as themselves) +came to a resolution, that the interest of America would not permit the +naming any person not a citizen, to the office of consul, vice-consul, +agent, or commissary. This was intended as a general answer to that +swarm of foreign pretenders. It appears to me, that it will be best, +still to preserve a part of this regulation. Native citizens, on several +valuable accounts, are preferable to aliens, and to citizens alien-born. +They possess our language, know our laws, customs, and commerce; have, +generally, acquaintance in the United States; give better satisfaction; +and are more to be relied on, in point of fidelity. Their disadvantages +are, an imperfect acquaintance with the language of this country, and an +ignorance of the organization of its judicial and executive powers, +and consequent awkwardness, whenever application to either of these +is necessary, as it frequently is. But it happens, that in some of +the principal ports of France, there is not a single American (as in +Marseilles, L'Orient, and Havre), in others but one (as in Nantes and +Rouen), and in Bordeaux only, are there two or three. Fortunately for +the present moment, most of these are worthy of appointments. But we +should look forward to future times, when there may happen to be no +native citizens in a port, but such as, being bankrupt, have taken +asylum in France from their creditors, or young ephemeral adventurers +in commerce, without substance or conduct, or other descriptions, which +might disgrace the consular office, without protecting our commerce. To +avail ourselves of our good native citizens, when we have one in a +port, and when there are none, to have yet some person to attend to our +affairs, it appears to me advisable to declare, by a standing law, that +no person but a native citizen shall be capable of the office of consul, +and that the consul's presence in his port should suspend, for the time, +the functions of the vice-consul. This is the rule of 1784, restrained +to the office of consul, and to native citizens. The establishing +this, by a standing law, will guard against the effect of particular +applications, and will shut the door against such applications, which +will otherwise be numerous. This done, the office of vice-consul may +be given to the best subject in the port, whether citizen or alien, +and that of consul, be kept open for any native citizen of superior +qualifications, who might come afterwards to establish himself in the +port. The functions of the vice-consul would become dormant during the +presence of his principal, come into activity again on his departure, +and thus spare us and them the painful operation of revoking and +reviving their commissions perpetually. Add to this, that during the +presence of the consul, the vice-consul would not be merely useless, but +would be a valuable counsellor to his principal, new in the office, the +language, laws, and customs of the country. Every consul and vice-consul +should be restrained in his jurisdiction, to the port for which he is +named, and the territory nearer to that than to any other consular or +vice-consular port, and no idea be permitted to arise, that the grade +of consul gives a right to any authority whatever over a vice-consul, or +draws on any dependence. + +It is now proper I should give some account of the state of our dispute +with Schweighaeuser and Dobree. In the conversation I had with Dobree, +at Nantes, he appeared to think so rationally on this subject, that I +thought there would be no difficulty in accommodating it with him, and +I wished rather to settle it by accommodation, than to apply to the +minister. I afterwards had it intimated to him, through the medium +of Mr. Carnes, that I had it in idea, to propose a reference to +arbitrators. He expressed a cheerful concurrence in it. I thereupon made +the proposition to him formally, by letter, mentioning particularly, +that we would choose our arbitrators of some neutral nation, and, of +preference, from among the Dutch refugees here. I was surprised to +receive an answer from him, wherein, after expressing his own readiness +to accede to this proposition, he added, that on consulting Mr. +Puchilberg, he had declined it; nevertheless, he wished a fuller +explanation from me, as to the subjects to be submitted to arbitration. +I gave him that explanation, and he answered finally, that Mr. +Puchilberg refused all accommodation, and insisted that the matter +should be decided by the tribunals of the country. Accommodation being +at an end, I wrote to Monsieur de Montmorin, and insisted on the usage +of nations, which does not permit the effects of one sovereign, to +be seized in the territories of another, and subjected to judiciary +decision there. I am promised that the stores shall be delivered; but +the necessary formalities will occasion some delay. The King being +authorized to call all causes before himself, ours will be evoked from +the tribunal where it is, and will be ended by an order to deliver +up the stores arrested, leaving it to the justice of Congress, to do +afterwards what is right, as to the demand of Schweighaeuser and Dobree. +I wish I could receive instructions what to do with the stores, when +delivered. The arms had certainly better be sent to America, as they are +good, and yet will sell here for little or nothing. The gun-stocks +and old iron had better be sold here; but what should be done with the +anchors? Being thoroughly persuaded that Congress wish that substantial +justice should be done to Schweighaeuser and Dobree, I shall, after the +stores are secured, repeat my proposition of arbitration to them. If +they then refuse it, I shall return all the papers to America, and +consider my powers for settling this matter as at an end. + +I have received no answer yet from Denmark on the subject of the prizes; +nor do I know whether to ascribe this silence to an intention to evade +the demand, or to the multitude of affairs they have had on their hands +lately. Patience seems to be prudence, in this case; to indispose them, +would do no good, and might do harm. I shall write again soon, if no +answer be received in the mean time. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble + +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + [The following is the translation of the convention referred + to as No. 5. in the preceding letter.] + +_Convention between his Most Christian Majesty and the United States of +America, for the purpose of defining and establishing the Functions and +Privileges of their respective Consuls and Vice-Consuls_. + +His Majesty the Most Christian King, and the United States of America, +having, by the twenty-ninth article of the treaty of amity and commerce +concluded between them, mutually granted the liberty of having, in +their respective States and ports, Consuls, Vice-Consuls, Agents, and +Commissaries, and being willing, in consequence thereof, to define +and establish, in a reciprocal and permanent manner, the functions +and privileges of Consuls and Vice-Consuls, which they have judged it +convenient to establish of preference, his M. C. Majesty has nominated +the Sieur Count of Montmorin of St. Herent, Marechal of his Camps and +Armies, Knight of his Orders and of the Golden Fleece, his Counsellor +in all his Councils, Minister and Secretary of State, and of his +Commandments and Finances, having the department of foreign affairs, and +the United States have nominated Thomas Jefferson, citizen of the United +States of America and their Minister Plenipotentiary near the King, who +after having communicated to each other their respective full powers, +have agreed on what follows: + +Article I. The Consuls and Vice-Consuls named by the M. C. K. and the +United States, shall be bound to present their commissions according to +the forms which shall be established respectively by the M. C. K. within +his dominions, and by the Congress within the United States; there shall +be delivered to them, without any charges, the _Exequatur_ necessary for +the exercise of their functions; and on exhibiting the said _Exequatur_, +the governors, commanders, heads of justice, bodies corporate, +tribunals, and other officers having authority in the ports and places +of their consulates, shall cause them to enjoy immediately, and without +difficulty, the pre-eminences, authority, and privileges, reciprocally +granted, without exacting from the said Consuls and Vice-Consuls any +fee, under any pretext whatever. + +Article II. The Consuls and Vice-Consuls, and persons attached to their +functions, that is to say, their chancellors and secretaries, shall +enjoy a full and entire immunity for their chancery and the papers +which shall be therein contained: they shall be exempt from aU, personal +service, from soldiers' billets, militia, watch, guard, guardianship, +trusteeship, as well as from all duties, taxes, impositions, and charges +whatsoever, except on the estate real and personal of which they may +be the proprietors or possessors, which shall be subject to the taxes +imposed on the estates of all other individuals: and in all other +instances they shall be subject to the laws of the land, as the natives +are. + +Those of the said Consuls and Vice-Consuls who shall exercise commerce, +shall be respectively subject to all taxes, charges, and impositions +established on other merchants. + +They shall place over the outward door of their house the arms of their +sovereign: but this mark of indication shall not give to the said house +any privilege of asylum for any person or property whatsoever. + +Article III. The respective Consuls and Vice-Consuls may establish +agents in the different ports and places of their departments, where +necessity shall require. These agents maybe chosen among the merchants, +either national or foreign, and furnished with a commission from one +of the said Consuls; they shall confine themselves respectively to the +rendering to their respective merchants, navigators, and vessels, all +possible service, and to inform the nearest Consul of the wants of +the said merchants, navigators, and vessels, without the said agents +otherwise participating in the immunities, rights, and privileges +attributed to Consuls and Vice-Consuls, and without power, under any +pretext whatever, to exact from the said merchants any duty or emolument +whatsoever. + +Article IV. The Consuls and Vice-Consuls respectively, may establish a +chancery, where shall be deposited the consular determinations, acts, +and proceedings, as also testaments, obligations, contracts, and other +acts done by or between persons of their nation, and effects left by +decedents, or saved from shipwreck. + +They may, consequently, appoint fit persons to act in the said chancery, +qualify and swear them in, commit to them the custody of the seal, and +authority to seal commissions, sentences, and other consular acts, +and also to discharge the functions of notaries and registers of the +consulate. + +Article V. The Consuls and Vice-Consuls respectively, shall have the +exclusive right of receiving in their chancery, or on board their +vessels, the declarations and all other the acts which the captains, +masters, crews, passengers, and merchants of their nation may choose to +make there, even their testaments and other disposals by last will: and +the copies of the said acts, duly authenticated by the said Consuls or +Vice-Consuls, under the seal of their consulate, shall receive faith +in law, equally as their originals would, in all the tribunals of the +dominions of the M. C. King and of the United States. + +They shall also have, and exclusively, in case of the absence of the +testamentary executor, guardian, or lawful representative, the right +to inventory, liquidate, and proceed to the sale of the personal estate +left by subjects or citizens of their nation, who shall die within +the extent of their consulate; they shall proceed therein with the +assistance of two merchants of their said nation, or, for want of them, +of any other at their choice, and shall cause to be deposited in their +chancery, the effects and papers of the said estates; and no officer, +military, judiciary, or of the police of the country, shall disturb them +or interfere therein, in any manner whatsoever: but the said Consuls +and Vice-Consuls shall not deliver up the said effects, nor the proceeds +thereof, to the lawful representatives or to their order, till they +shall have caused to be paid all debts which the deceased shall have +contracted in the country; for which purpose the creditor shall have a +right to attach the said effects in their hands, as they might in those +of any other individual whatever, and proceed to obtain sale of them, +till payment of what shall be lawfully due to them. When the debts +shall not have been contracted by judgment, deed, or note, the signature +whereof shall be known, payment shall not be ordered, but on the +creditor's giving sufficient surety resident in the country, to refund +the sums he shall have unduly received, principal, interest, and costs; +which surety, nevertheless, shall stand duly discharged after the +term of one year, in time of peace, and of two, in time of war, if the +discharge cannot be formed before the end of this term, against the* +representatives who shall present themselves. + +And in order that the representatives may not be unjustly kept out of +the effects of the deceased, the Consuls and Vice-Consuls shall notify +his death in some one of the gazettes published within their consulate, +and that they shall retain the said effects in their hands four months, +to answer all just demands which shall be presented; and they shall be +bound, after this delay, to deliver to the persons succeeding thereto, +what shall be more than sufficient for the demands which shall have been +formed. + +Article VI. The Consuls and Vice-Consuls, respectively, shall receive +the declarations, protests, and reports of all captains and masters of +their respective nations, on account of average losses sustained at sea; +and these captains and masters shall lodge in the chancery of the said +Consuls and Vice-Consuls, the acts which they may have made in other +ports, on account of the accidents which may have happened to them on +their voyage. If a subject of the M. C. K. and a citizen of the United +States, or a foreigner, are interested in the said cargo, the average +shall be settled by the tribunals of the country, and not by the Consuls +or Vice-Consuls; but when only the subjects or citizens of their own +nation shall be interested, the respective Consuls or Vice-Consuls shall +appoint skilful persons to settle the damages and average. + +Article VII. In cases where by tempest, or other accident, French ships +or vessels shall be stranded on the coasts of the United States, and +ships or vessels of the United States shall be stranded on the coasts of +the dominions of the M. C. K.,the Consul or Vice-Consul nearest to the +place of shipwreck shall do whatever he may judge proper, as well +for the purpose of saving the said ship or vessel, its cargo and +appurtenances, as for the storing and the security of the effects +and merchandise saved. He may take an inventory of them, without the +intermeddling of any officers of the military, of the customs, of +justice, or of the police of the country, otherwise than to give to the +Consuls, Vice-Consuls, captain, and crew of the vessels shipwrecked or +stranded, all the succor and favor which they shall ask of them, either +for the expedition and security of the saving and of the effects saved, +as to prevent all disturbance. + +And in order to prevent all kind of dispute and discussion in the said +cases of shipwreck, it is agreed that when there shall be no Consul or +Vice-Consul to attend to the saving of the wreck, or that the residence +of the said Consul or Vice-Consul (he not being at the place of the +wreck) shall be more distant from the said place than that of the +competent judge of the country, the latter shall immediately proceed +therein, with all the despatch, certainty, and precautions, prescribed +by the respective laws; but the said territorial judge shall retire, on +the arrival of the Consul or Vice-Consul, and shall deliver over to +him the report of his proceedings, the expenses of which the Consul and +Vice-Consul shall cause to be reimbursed to him, as well as those of +saving the wreck. + +The merchandise and effects saved, shall be deposited in the nearest +Custom-house, or other place of safety, with the inventory thereof, +which shall have been made by the Consul or Vice-Consul, or by the judge +who shall have proceeded in their absence, that the said effects and +merchandise may be afterwards delivered (after levying therefrom the +costs), and without form of process, to the owners, who, being +furnished with an order for their delivery, from the nearest Consul or +Vice-Consul, shall reclaim them by themselves, or by their order, either +for the purpose of re-exporting such merchandise, in which case, they +shall-pay no kind of duty of exportation, or for that of selling them in +the country, if they be not prohibited there; and in this last case, the +said merchandise, if they be damaged, shall be allowed an abatement of +entrance duties, proportioned to the damage they have sustained, which +shall be ascertained by the affidavits taken at the time the vessel was +wrecked or struck. + +Article VIII. The Consuls and Vice-Consuls shall exercise police over +all the vessels of their respective nations, and shall have on board the +said vessels, all power and jurisdiction in civil matters, in all the +disputes which may there arise; they shall have an entire inspection +over the said vessels, their crew, and the changes and substitutions +there to be made. For which purpose they may go on board the said +vessels whenever they may judge it necessary: well understood, that +the functions hereby allowed shall be confined to the interior of the +vessels, and that they shall not take place in any case, which shall +have any interference with the police of the ports where the said +vessels shall be. + +Article IX. The Consuls and Vice-Consuls may cause to be arrested the +captains, officers, mariners, sailors, and all other persons, being part +of the crews of the vessels of their respective nations, who shall +have deserted from the said vessels, in order to send them back, and +transport them out of the country. For which purpose, the said Consuls +and Vice-Consuls shall address themselves to the courts, judges, and +officers competent, and shall demand the said deserters in writing, +proving by an exhibition of the registers of the vessel or ship's roll, +that those men were part of the said crews: and on this demand, so +proved (saving, however, where the contrary is proved), the delivery +shall not be refused|; and there shall be given all aid and assistance +to the said Consuls and Vice-Consuls, for the search, seizure, and +arrest of the said deserters, who shall even be detained and kept in the +prisons of the country, at their request and expense, until they shall +have found an opportunity of sending them back. But if they be not sent +back within three months, to be counted from the day of their arrest, +they shall be set at liberty, and shall be no more arrested for the same +cause. + +Article X. In cases where the respective subjects, or citizens, shall +have committed any crime, or breach of the peace, they shall be amenable +to the judges of the country. + +Article XI. When the said offenders shall be a part of the crew of a +vessel of their nation, and shall have withdrawn themselves on board +the said vessel, they may be there seized and arrested by order of the +judges of the country: these shall give notice thereof to the Consul +or Vice-Consul, who may repair on board, if he thinks proper: but this +notification shall not, in any case, delay execution of the order in +question. The persons arrested shall not afterwards be set at liberty, +until the Consul or Vice-Consul shall have been notified thereof; and +they shall be delivered to him, if he requires it, to be put again +onboard of the vessel on which they were arrested, or of others of their +nation, and to be sent out of the country. + +Article XII. All differences and suits between the subjects of the M. C. +K. in the U. S., or between the citizens of the United States within the +dominions of the M. C. K. and particularly all disputes relative to the +wages and terms of engagement of the crews of the respective vessels, +and all differences of whatever nature they be, which may arise between +the privates of the said crews, or between any of them and their +captains, or between the captains of different vessels of their nation, +shall be determined by the respective Consuls and Vice-Consuls, either +by a reference to arbitrators, or by a summary judgment, and without +costs. + +No officer of the country, civil or military, shall interfere therein, +or take any part whatever in the matter: and the appeals from the said +consular sentences shall be carried before the tribunals of France or of +the United States, to whom it may appertain to take cognizance thereof. + +Article XIII. The general utility of commerce, having caused to be +established within the dominions of the M. C. K. particular tribunals +and forms, for expediting the decision of commercial affairs, the +merchants of the U. S. shall enjoy the benefit of these establishments; +and the Congress of the U. S. will provide in the manner the most +conformable to its laws, equivalent advantages in favor of the French +merchants, for the prompt despatch and decision of affairs of the same +nature. + +Article XIV. The subjects of the M. C. K. and citizens of the U. S. +who shall prove by legal evidence, that they are of the said nations +respectively, shall, in consequence, enjoy an exemption from all +personal service in the place of their settlement. + +Article XV. If any other nation acquires, by virtue of any convention +whatever, a treatment more favorable with respect to the consular +pre-eminences, powers, authority, and privileges, the Consuls and +Vice-Consuls of the M. C. K. or of the U. S., reciprocally, shall +participate therein, agreeably to the terms stipulated by the second, +third, and fourth articles of the treaty of amity and commerce, +concluded between the M. C. K. and the U. S. + +Article XVI. The present convention shall be in full force during the +term of twelve years, to be counted from the day of the exchange of +ratifications, which shall be given in proper form, and exchanged on +both sides, within the space of one year, or sooner, if possible. + +In faith whereof, we, Ministers Plenipotentiary, have signed the present +convention, and have thereto set the seal of our arms. + +Done at Versailles, the 14th of November, one thousand seven hundred and +eighty eight. + +L. C. De MONTMORIN. L. S. + +Signed. + +Th: Jefferson. L. S. + + + + +LETTER CLXVIII.--TO JAMES MADISON, November 18, 1788 + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, November 18, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +My last to you was of the 31st of July; since which, I have received +yours of July the 24th, August the 10th, and 23rd. The first part of +this long silence in me was occasioned by a knowledge that you were +absent from New York; the latter part, by a want of opportunity, which +has been longer than usual. Mr. Shippen being just arrived here, and +to set out to-morrow for London, I avail myself of that channel of +conveyance. Mr. Carrington was so kind as to send me the second volume +of the American Philosophical Transactions, the Federalist, and some +other interesting pamphlets; and I am to thank you for another copy of +the Federalist, and the report of the instructions to the ministers for +negotiating peace. The latter unluckily omitted exactly the passage I +wanted, which was what related to the navigation of the Mississippi. +With respect to the Federalist, the three authors had been named to me. +I read it with care, pleasure, and improvement, and was satisfied there +was nothing in it by one of those hands, and not a great deal by a +second. It does the highest honor to the third, as being, in my opinion, +the best commentary on the principles of government, which ever was +written. In some parts, it is discoverable that the author means only +to say what may be best said in defence of opinions, in which he did not +concur. But in general, it establishes firmly the plan of government. +I confess, it has rectified me on several points. As to the bill of +rights, however, I still think it should be added; and I am glad to see, +that three States have at length considered the perpetual re-eligibility +of the President, as an article which should be amended. I should +deprecate with you, indeed, the meeting of a new convention. I hope +they will adopt the mode of amendment by Congress and the Assemblies, in +which case, I should not fear any dangerous innovation in the plan. But +the minorities are too respectable, not to be entitled to some sacrifice +of opinion in the majority; especially, when a great proportion of them +would be contented with a bill of rights. Here, things internally, are +going on well. The _Notables_ now in session, have, indeed, passed one +vote, which augurs ill to the rights of the people; but if they do not +obtain now so much as they have a right to, they will in the long +run. The misfortune is, that they are not yet ripe for receiving the +blessings to which they are entitled. I doubt, for instance, whether +the body of the nation, if they could be consulted, would accept of +a _habeas corpus_ law, if offered them by the King. If the _Etats +Generaux_, when they assemble, do not aim at too much, they may begin +a good constitution. There are three articles which they may easily +obtain; 1. their own meeting, periodically; 2. the exclusive right of +taxation; 3. the right of registering laws and proposing amendments to +them, as exercised now by the parliaments. This last would be readily +approved by the court, on account of their hostility against the +parliaments, and would lead immediately to the origination of laws: +the second has been already solemnly avowed by the King; and it is well +understood, there would be no opposition to the first. If they push at +much more, all may fail. I shall not enter further into public details, +because my letter to Mr. Jay will give them. That contains a request of +permission to return to America the next spring, for the summer only. +The reasons therein urged, drawn from my private affairs, are very +cogent. But there is another, more cogent on my mind, though of a nature +not to be explained in a public letter. It is the necessity of attending +my daughters, myself, to their own country, and depositing them safely +in the hands of those, with whom I can safely leave them. I have +deferred this request as long as circumstances would permit, and am in +hopes it will meet with no difficulty. I have had too many proofs +of your friendship, not to rely on your patronage of it, as, in all +probability, nothing can suffer by a short absence. But the immediate +permission is what I am anxious about; as by going in April and +returning in October, I shall be sure of pleasant and short passages, +out and in. I must intreat your attention, my friend, to this matter, +and that the answers may be sent me through several channels. + +Mr. Liniozin, at Havre, sent you, by mistake, a package belonging to +somebody else. I do not know what it contained, but he has written to +you on the subject, and prayed me to do the same, he is likely to suffer +if it be not returned. + +Supposing that the funding their foreign debt will be among the first +operations of the new government, I send you two estimates; the one by +myself, the other by a gentleman infinitely better acquainted with the +subject, showing what fund will suffice to discharge the principal and +interest, as it shall become due, aided by occasional loans, which the +same fund will repay. I enclose them to you, because collating them +together, and with your own ideas, you will be able to advise something +better than either; but something must be done. This government will +expect, I fancy, a very satisfactory provision for the payment of their +debt, from the first session of the new Congress. Perhaps, in this +matter, as well as the arrangement of your foreign affairs, I may be +able, when on the spot with you, to give some information and suggest +some hints, which may render my visit to my native country not +altogether useless. I consider as no small advantage, the resuming the +tone of mind of my constituents, which is lost by long absence, and can +only be recovered by mixing with them; and shall, particularly, hope for +much profit and pleasure, by contriving to pass as much time as possible +with you. Should you have a trip to Virginia in contemplation, for that +year, I hope you will time it so as that we may be there together. I +will camp you at Monticello, where, if illy entertained otherwise, you +shall not want books. In firm hope of a happy meeting with you in the +spring, or early in summer, I conclude, with assurances of the sincere +esteem and attachment, with which I am, Dear Sir, your affectionate +friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXIX.--TO A. DONALD, November 18,1788 + + +TO A. DONALD. + +Paris, November 18,1788. + +Dear Sir, + +Often solicited by persons on this side the water, to inquire for their +friends in America, about whose fate they are uncertain, I can only hand +on their requests to my friends in America. The enclosed letter from, +the Chevalier de Sigougne desires some inquiry after his brother, whom +he supposes to have settled at Todd's Bridge. As this is within your +reach, I must refer the request to your humanity, and beg of you, if you +can hear of him, you will be so good as to give me an account of him, +returning me the enclosed letter at the same time. + +The campaign between the Turks and Russians has been tolerably +equal. The Austrians have suffered through the whole of it. By the +interposition of Prussia and England, peace is likely to be made between +Russia, Denmark, and Sweden. This is a proof that England does not mean +to engage in the war herself. This country will certainly engage herself +in no manner, externally, before the meeting of her States General. This +assembly has been so long disused, that the forms of its convocation +occasion difficulty. The _Notables_ have been convened to prescribe +them, and they are now in session. I am in hopes this will end in giving +a good degree of liberty to this country. They enjoy, at present, the +most perfect tranquillity within; their stocks, however, continue low, +and money difficult to be got for current expenses. It is hoped, +that Mr. Necker's talents and popularity, with the aid of a National +Assembly, will extricate them from their difficulties. We have been +daily expecting to hear of the death of the King of England: our last +news is of the 11th, when he was thought in the utmost danger. This +event might produce a great change in the situation of things: it +is supposed Mr. Fox would come into place, and he has been generally +understood to be disposed for war. Should the King survive, I think the +continuance of peace more probable at present, than it has been for some +time past. Be so good as to contrive the enclosed letter, by a very safe +conveyance. Remember me in the most friendly terms to Dr. Currie, and +be assured yourself of the esteem and attachment, with which I am. Dear +Sir, your affectionate friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXX.--TO JOHN JAY, November 19, 1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Sir, + +Paris, November 19, 1788. + +Since my letter of September the 5th, wherein I acknowledged Mr. +Remsen's favor of July the 25th, I have written those of September the +24th, and of the 14th instant. This last will accompany the present, +both going by the way of London, for want of a direct opportunity; but +they go by a private hand. + +No late event worth notice has taken place between the Turks and +Austrians. The former continue in the territories of the latter, with +all the appearances of superiority. On the side of Russia, the war wears +an equal face, except that the Turks are still masters of the Black sea. +Oczakow is not yet taken. Denmark furnished to Russia its stipulated +quota of troops with so much alacrity, and was making such other warlike +preparations, that it was believed they meant to become principals +in the war against Sweden. Russia and England hereupon interposed +efficaciously. Their ministers appointed to meditate, gave notice to +the court of Copenhagen, that they would declare war against them in the +name of their two sovereigns, if they did not immediately withdraw their +troops from the Swedish territories. The court of London has since +said, that their minister (Elliott) went further in this than he +was authorized. However, the Danish troops are retiring. Poland +is augmenting its army from twenty to an hundred thousand men. +Nevertheless, it seems as if England and Prussia meant in earnest to +stop the war in that quarter, contented to leave the two empires in +the hands of the Turks. France, desired by Sweden to join the courts +of London and Berlin in their mediation between Sweden and Russia, has +declined it. We may be assured, she will meddle in nothing external +before the meeting of the States General. Her temporary annihilation +in the political scale of Europe, leaves to England and Prussia +the splendid roll, of giving the law without meeting the shadow of +opposition. The internal tranquillity of this country is perfect: their +stocks, however, continue low, and the difficulty of getting money to +face current expenses very great. In the contest between the King and +parliament, the latter, fearing the power of the former, passed the +convoking the States General. The government found itself obliged +by other difficulties, also, to recur to the same expedient. The +parliament, after its recall, showed that it was now become apprehensive +of the States General, and discovered a determination to cavil at their +form, so as to have a right to deny their legality, if that body should +undertake to abridge their powers. The court, hereupon, very adroitly +determined to call the same _Notables_, who had been approved by the +nation the last year, to decide on the form of convoking the _Etats +Generaux_: thus withdrawing itself from the disputes which the +parliament might excite, and committing them with the nation. The +_Notables_ are now in session. The government had manifestly discovered +a disposition that the _Tiers-Etat_, or Commons, should have as many +representatives in the States General, as the Nobility and Clergy +together: but five Bureaux of the _Notables_ have voted by very great +majorities, that they should have only an equal number with each of the +other orders singly. One bureau, by a majority of a single voice, had +agreed to give the Commons the double number of representatives. This +is the first symptom of a decided combination between the Nobility and +Clergy, and will necessarily throw the people into the scale of the +King. It is doubted, whether the States can be called so early as +January, though the government, urged by the want of money, is for +pressing the convocation. It is still more uncertain what the States +will do when they meet: there are three objects which they may attain, +probably without opposition from the court; 1. A periodical meeting +of the States; 2. their exclusive right of taxation; 3. the right of +en-registering laws and proposing amendments to them, as now exercised +by the parliaments. This would lead, as it did in England, to the right +of originating laws. The parliament would, by the last measure, be +reduced to a mere judiciary body, and would probably oppose it. But +against the King and nation their opposition could not succeed. If the +States stop here, for the present moment, all will probably end well, +and they may, in future sessions, obtain a suppression of _lettres de +cachet_, a free press, a civil list, and other valuable mollifications +of their government. But it is to be feared, that an impatience to +rectify every thing at once, which prevails in some minds, may terrify +the court, and lead them to appeal to force, and to depend on that +alone. + +Before this can reach you, you will probably have heard of an _Arret_, +passed the 28th of September, for prohibiting the introduction of +foreign whale-oils, without exception. The English had glutted the +markets of this country with their oils: it was proposed to exclude +them, and an _Arret_ was drawn, with an exception for us: in the last +stage of the _Arret_, the exception was struck out, without my having +any warning, or even suspicion of this. I suspect this stroke came from +the Count de la Luzerne, minister of marine; but I cannot affirm it +positively. As soon as I was apprized of this, which was several days +after it passed (because it was kept secret till published in their +seaports), I wrote to the Count de Montmorin a letter, of which the +enclosed is a copy, and had conferences on the subject, from time to +time, with him and the other ministers. I found them prepossessed by the +partial information of their Dunkirk fishermen; and therefore thought it +necessary to give them a view of the whole subject in writing, which +I did, in the piece, of which I enclose you a printed copy. I therein +entered into more details, than the question between us seemed +rigorously to require. I was led to them by other objects. The most +important was to disgust Mr. Necker, as an economist, against their new +fishery, by letting him foresee its expense. The particular manufactures +suggested to them, were in consequence of repeated applications from +the shippers of rice and tobacco: other details, which do not appear +immediately pertinent, were occasioned by circumstances which had arisen +in conversation, or an apparent necessity of giving information on the +whole matter. At a conference, in the presence of M. Lambert, on the +16th (where I was ably aided by the Marquis de la Fayette, as I have +been through the whole business), it was agreed to except us from the +prohibition. But they will require rigorous assurance, that the oils +coming under our name are really of our fishery. They fear we shall +cover the introduction of the English oils from Halifax. The _Arret_ for +excepting us was communicated to me, but the formalities of proving the +oils to be American were not yet inserted. I suppose they will require +every vessel to bring a certificate from their Consul or Vice-Consul +residing in the State from which it comes. More difficult proofs were +sometimes talked of. I supposed I might surely affirm to them, that our +government would do whatever it could to prevent this fraud, because it +is as much our interest as theirs to keep the market for the French +and American oils only. I am told Massachusetts has prohibited the +introduction of foreign fish-oils into her ports. This law, if well +executed, will be an effectual guard against fraud; and a similar one in +the other States, interested in the fishery, would much encourage this +government to continue her indulgence to us. Though the _Arret_, then, +for the re-admission of our oils is not yet passed, I think I may assure +you it will be so in a few days, and of course that this branch of +commerce, after so threatening an appearance, will be on a better +footing than ever, as enjoying, jointly with the French oil, a monopoly +of their markets. The continuance of this will depend on the growth of +their fishery. Whenever they become able to supply their own wants, it +is very possible they may refuse to take our oils; but I do not believe +it possible for them to raise their fishery to that, unless they can +continue to draw off our fishermen from us. Their seventeen ships, this +year, had one hundred and fifty of our sailors on board. I do not know +what number the English have got into their service. You will readily +perceive, that there are particulars in these printed observations, +which it would not be proper to suffer to become public. They were +printed, merely that a copy might be given to each minister, and care +has been taken to let them go into no other hands. + +I must now trouble Congress with a petition on my own behalf. When +I left my own house in October, 1783, it was to attend Congress as a +member, and in expectation of returning in five or six months. In the +month of May following, however, I was desired to come to Europe, as +member of a commission, which was to continue two years only. I came +off immediately, without going home to make any other arrangements in my +affairs, thinking they would not suffer greatly before I should return +to them. Before the close of the two years, Doctor Franklin retiring +from his charge here, Congress were pleased to name me to it; so that I +have been led on by events to an absence of five years, instead of five +months. In the mean time, matters of great moment to others as well as +myself, and which can be arranged by nobody but myself, will await no +longer. Another motive, of still more powerful co-agency on my mind, is +the necessity of carrying my family back to their friends and country. +I must, therefore, ask of Congress a leave of short absence. Allowing +three months on the sea, going and coming, and two months at my own +house, which will suffice for my affairs, I need not be from Paris but +between five and six months. I do not foresee any thing which can suffer +during my absence. The consular convention is finished, except as to the +exchange of ratification, which will be the affair of a day only. The +difference with Schweighaeuser and Dobree, relative to our arms, will be +finished. That of Denmark, if ever finished, will probably be long spun +out. The ransom of the Algerine captives is the only matter likely to +be on hand. That cannot be set on foot till the money is raised in +Holland, and an order received for its application: probably these will +take place, so that I may set it into motion, before my departure; if +not, I can still leave it on such a footing, as to be put into motion +the moment the money can be paid. And even when the leave of Congress +shall be received, I will not make use of it, if there is any thing +of consequence which may suffer; but would, postpone my departure till +circumstances will admit it. But should these be as I expect they will, +it will be vastly desirable to me to receive the permission immediately, +so that I may go out as soon as the vernal equinox is over, and be sure +of my return in good time and season in the fall. Mr. Short, who had had +thoughts of returning to America, will postpone that return till I come +back. His talents and character allow me to say, with confidence, that +nothing will suffer in his hands. The friendly dispositions of Monsieur +de Montmorin would induce him readily to communicate with Mr. Short in +his present character; but should any of his applications be necessary +to be laid before the Council, they might suffer difficulty: nor could +he attend the diplomatic societies, which are the most certain sources +of good intelligence. Would Congress think it expedient to remove the +difficulties, by naming him secretary of legation, so that he would act +of course as _charge des affaires_ during my absence? It would be just, +that the difference between the salary of a secretary and a secretary of +legation should cease, as soon as he should cease to be charged with the +affairs of the United States; that is to say, on my return: and he would +expect that. So that this difference for five or six months would be an +affair of about one hundred and seventy guineas only, which would be not +more than equal to the additional expense that would be brought on him +necessarily by the change of character. I mention these particulars, +that Congress may see the end as well as beginning of the proposition, +and have only to add, 'their will be done.' Leave for me being obtained, +I will ask it, Sir, of your friendship, to avail yourself of various +occasions to the ports of France and England to convey me immediate +notice of it, and relieve me as soon as possible from the anxiety of +expectation, and the uncertainty in which I shall be. We have been in +daily expectation of hearing of the death of the King of England. Our +latest news are of the 11th. He had then been despaired of for three or +four days; but as my letter is to pass through England, you will have +later accounts of him than that can give you. I send you the newspapers +to this date, and have the honor to be, with the greatest esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + +P. S. The last crop of corn in France has been so short, that they +apprehend want. Mr. Necker desires me to make known this scarcity to our +merchants, in hopes they would send supplies. I promised him I would. If +it could be done without naming him, it would be agreeable to him, and +probably advantageous to the adventurers. T. J. + + +[The annexed are the observations on the subject of admitting our +whale-oil in the markets of France, referred to in the preceding +letter.] + +Whale-oil enters, as a raw material, into several branches of +manufacture, as of wool, leather, soap: it is used also in painting, +architecture, and navigation. But its great consumption is in lighting +houses and cities. For this last purpose, however, it has a powerful +competitor in the vegetable oils. These do well in warm, still weather, +but they fix with cold, they extinguish easily with the wind, their crop +is precarious, depending on the seasons, and to yield the same light, +a larger wick must be used, and greater quantity of oil consumed. +Estimating all these articles of difference together, those employed in +lighting cities find their account in giving about twenty-five per +cent, more for whale than for vegetable oils. But higher than this the +whale-oil, in its present form, cannot rise; because it then becomes +more advantageous to the city lighters to use others. This competition, +then, limits its price, higher than which no encouragement can raise it; +and it becomes, as it were, a law of its nature. But, at this low price, +the whale-fishery is the poorest business into which a merchant or +sailor can enter. If the sailor, instead of wages, has a part of what is +taken, he finds that this, one year with another, yields him less than +he could have got as wages in any other business. It is attended, too, +with great risk, singular hardships, and long absence from his family, +if the voyage is made solely at the expense of the merchant, he finds +that, one year with another, it does not reimburse him his expense. As +for example; an English ship of three hundred tons and forty-two hands +brings home, _communibus annis_, after four months' voyage, twenty-five +tons of oil, worth four hundred and thirty-seven pounds ten shillings +sterling. But the wages of the officers and seamen will be four hundred +pounds; the outfit, then, and the merchants' profit, must be paid by the +government: and it is accordingly on this idea, that the British bounty +is calculated. From the poverty of this business, then, it has happened, +that the nations who have taken it up have successively abandoned it. +The Basques began it: but though the most economical and enterprising of +the inhabitants of France, they could not continue it; and it is said, +they never employed more than thirty ships a year. The Dutch and Hanse +towns succeeded them. The latter gave it up long ago. The English +carried it on, in competition with the Dutch, during the last and +beginning of the present century: but it was too little profitable for +them, in comparison with other branches of commerce open to them. + +In the mean time, the inhabitants of the barren island of Nantucket had +taken up this fishery, invited to it by the whales presenting themselves +on their own shore. To them, therefore, the English relinquished it, +continuing to them, as British subjects, the importation of their oils +into England, duty free, while foreigners were subject to a duty of +eighteen pounds five shillings sterling a ton. The Dutch were enabled +to continue it long, because, 1. They are so near the northern fishing +grounds, that a vessel begins her fishing very soon after she is out +of port. 2. They navigate with more economy than the other nations of +Europe. 3. Their seamen are content with lower wages: and, 4. Their +merchants, with a lower profit on their capital. Under all these +favorable circumstances, however, this branch of business, after long +languishing, is at length nearly extinct with them. It is said, they did +not send above half a dozen ships in pursuit of the whale this present +year. The _Nantuckois_, then, were the only people who exercised +this fishery to any extent at the commencement of the late war. Their +country, from its barrenness yielding no subsistence, they were obliged +to seek it in the sea which surrounded them. Their economy was more +rigorous than that of the Dutch. Their seamen, instead of wages, had a +share in what was taken: this induced them to fish with fewer hands, +so that each had a greater dividend in the profit; it made them more +vigilant in seeking game, bolder in pursuing it, and parsimonious in all +their expenses. London was their only market. When, therefore, by +the late revolution, they became aliens in Great Britain, they became +subject to the alien duty of eighteen pounds five shillings the ton of +oil, which being more than equal to the price of the common whale-oil, +they are obliged to abandon that fishery. So that this people, who, +before the war, had employed upwards of three hundred vessels a year in +the whale-fishery (while Great Britain had herself never employed one +hundred), have now almost ceased to exercise it. But they still had the +seamen, the most important material for this fishery; and they still +retained the spirit for fishing: so that, at the re-establishment +of peace, they were capable, in a very short time, of reviving their +fishery in all its splendor. The British government saw that the moment +was critical. They knew that their own share in that fishery was as +nothing: that the great mass of fishermen was left with a nation now +separated from them: that these fishermen, however, had lost their +ancient market; had no other resource within their country to which they +could turn and they hoped, therefore, they might, in the present moment +of distress, be decoyed over to their establishments, and be added +to the mass of their seamen. To effect this, they offered extravagant +advantages to all persons who should exercise the whale-fishery from +British establishments. But not counting with much confidence on a long +connection with their remaining possessions on the continent of America, +foreseeing that the _Nantuckois_ would settle in them, preferably, if +put on an equal footing with those of Great Britain, and that thus they +might have to purchase them a second time, they confined their high +offers to settlers in Great Britain. The _Nantuckois_, left without +resource by the loss of their market, began to think of removing to the +British dominions; some to Nova Scotia, preferring smaller advantages in +the neighborhood of their ancient country and friends; others to Great +Britain, postponing country and friends to high premiums. A vessel was +already arrived from Halifax to Nantucket, to take off some of those +who proposed to remove; two families had gone on board, and others +were going, when a letter was received there, which had been written +by Monsieur le Marquis de la Fayette, to a gentleman in Boston, and +transmitted by him to Nantucket. The purport of the letter was to +dissuade their accepting the British proposals, and to assure them that +their friends in France would endeavor to do something for them. This +instantly suspended their design: not another went on board, and the +vessel returned to Halifax with only the two families. + +In fact the French government had not been inattentive to the views +of the British, nor insensible to the crisis. They saw the danger of +permitting five or six thousand of the best seamen existing, to be +transferred by a single stroke to the marine strength of their +enemy, and to carry over with them an art which they possessed almost +exclusively. The counterplan which they set on foot was to tempt the +_Nantuckois_, by high offers, to come and settle in France. This was in +the year 1785. The British, however, had in their favor, a sameness of +language, religion, laws, habits, and kindred. Nine families only, of +thirty-three persons in the whole, came to Dunkirk; so that this +project was not likely to prevent their emigration to the English +establishments, if nothing else had happened. + +France had effectually aided in detaching the United States of America +from the force of Great Britain: but as yet they seemed to have indulged +only a silent wish to detach them from her commerce. They had done +nothing to induce that event. In the same year, 1785, while M. de +Calonne was in treaty with the _Nantuckois_, an estimate of the commerce +of the United States was submitted to the Count de Vergennes, and it +was shown, that, of three millions of pounds sterling, to which their +exports amounted, one third might be brought to France, and exchanged +against her productions and manufactures, advantageously for both +nations; provided the obstacles of prohibition, monopoly, and duty, were +either done away, or moderated as far as circumstances would admit. A +committee, which had been appointed to investigate a particular one of +these objects, was thereupon instructed to extend its researches to +the whole, and see what advantages and facilities the government could +offer, for the encouragement of a general commerce with the United +States. The committee was composed of persons well skilled in commerce; +and after laboring assiduously for several months, they made their +report: the result of which was given in the letter of his Majesty's +Comptroller General, of the 22nd of October, 1786, wherein he stated the +principles which should be established, for the future regulation of the +commerce between France and the United States. It was become tolerably +evident, at the date of this letter, that the terms offered to the +_Nantuckois_ would not produce their emigration to Dunkirk; and that it +would be safest, in every event, to offer some other alternative, which +might prevent their acceptance of the British offers. The obvious one +was, to open the ports of France to their oils, so that they might still +exercise their fishery, remaining in their native country, and find a +new market for its produce, instead of that which they had lost. The +article of whale-oil was, accordingly, distinguished in the letter of +M. de Calonne, by an immediate abatement of duty, and promise of further +abatement, after the year 1790. This letter was instantly sent +to America, and bid fair to produce there the effect intended, by +determining the fishermen to carry on their trade from their own homes, +with the advantage only of a free market in France, rather than remove +to Great Britain, where a free market and great bounty were offered +them. An _Arret_ was still to be prepared, to give legal sanction to the +letter of M. de Calonne. Monsieur Lambert, with a patience and assiduity +almost unexampled, went through all the investigations necessary to +assure himself, that the conclusion of the committee had been just. +Frequent conferences on this subject were held in his presence; the +deputies of the chambers of commerce were heard, and the result was, the +_Arret_ of December the 29th, 1787, confirming the abatements of duty, +present and future, which the letter of October, 1786, had promised, +and reserving to his Majesty, to grant still further favors to that +production, if, on further information, he should find it for the +interest of the two nations. + +The English had now begun to deluge the markets of France with their +whale-oils; and they were enabled by the great premiums given by +their government, to undersell the French fisherman, aided by feebler +premiums, and the American, aided by his poverty alone. Nor is it +certain, that these speculations were not made at the risk of the +British government, to suppress the French and American fishermen in +their only market. Some remedy seemed necessary. Perhaps it would not +have been a bad one, to subject, by a general law, the merchandise of +every nation and of every nature, to pay additional duties in the ports +of France, exactly equal to the premiums and drawbacks given on the same +merchandise by their own government. This might not only counteract the +effect of premiums in the instance of whale-oils, but attack the whole +British system of bounties and drawbacks, by the aid of which they +make London the centre of commerce for the whole earth. A less general +remedy, but an effectual one, was, to prohibit the oils of all European +nations: the treaty with England requiring only, that she should be +treated as well as the most favored European nation. But the remedy +adopted was, to prohibit all oils, without exception. + +To know how this remedy will operate, we must consider the quantity of +whale-oil which France consumes annually, the quantity she obtains from +her own fishery; and, if she obtains less than she consumes, we are to +consider what will follow the prohibition. + +The annual consumption of France, as stated by a person who has good +opportunities of knowing it, is as follows. + + lbs. pesant. quinteaux. tons. + +Paris, according to the registers of +1786,.................................2,800,000 28,000 1750 + +Twenty-seven other cities, lighted +by M. Sangrain,........................ 800,000 8,000 500 + +Rouen,..................................500,000 5,000 312 +Bordeaux,...............................600,000 6,000 375 +Lyons,..................................300,000 3,000 187 +Other cities, leather and light,......3,000,000 30,000 1875 + --------- ------ ---- + 8,000,000 80,000 5,000 + +Other calculations, or say rather, conjectures, reduce the consumption +to about half this. It is treating these conjectures with great respect, +to place them on an equal footing with the estimate of the person before +alluded to, and to suppose the truth half way between them. But we will +do it, and call the present consumption of France only sixty thousand +quintals, or three thousand seven hundred and fifty tons a year. This +consumption is increasing fast, as the practice of lighting cities is +becoming more general, and the superior advantages of lighting them with +whale-oil are but now beginning to be known. + +What do the fisheries of France furnish? She has employed, this year, +fifteen vessels in the southern, and two in the northern fishery, +carrying forty-five hundred tons in the whole, or two hundred and +sixty-five each, on an average. The English ships, led by Nantuckois as +well as the French, have never averaged in the southern fishery, more +than one fifth of their burthen, in the best year. The fifteen ships +of France, according to this ground of calculation, and supposing the +present to have been one of the best years, should have brought, +one with another, one fifth of two hundred and sixty-five tons, or +fifty-three tons each. But we are told, they have brought near the +double of that, to wit, one hundred tons each, and fifteen hundred tons +in the whole. Supposing the two northern vessels to have brought home +the cargo which is common from the northern fishery, to wit, twenty-five +tons each, the whole produce this year will then be fifteen hundred and +fifty tons. This is five and a half months'provision, or two fifths of +the annual consumption. To furnish for the whole year, would require +forty ships of the same size, in years as fortunate as the present, and +eighty-five, _communibus annis_; forty-four tons, or one sixth of the +burthen, being as high an average as should be counted on, one year +with another: and the number must be increased, with the increasing +consumption. France, then, is evidently not yet in a condition to +supply her own wants. It is said, indeed, she has a large stock on hand, +unsold, occasioned by the English competition. Thirty-three thousand +quintals, including this year's produce, are spoken of: this is between +six and seven months'provision; and supposing by the time this is +exhausted that the next year's supply comes in, that will enable her to +go on five or six months longer; say a twelvemonth in the whole. But, +at the end of the twelvemonth, what is to be done? The manufacturers +depending on this article, cannot maintain their competition against +those of other countries, if deprived of their equal means. When the +alternative, then, shall be presented, of letting them drop, or opening +the ports to foreign whale-oil, it is presumable the latter will be +adopted, as the lesser evil. But it will be too late for America. Her +fishery, annihilated during the late war, only began to raise its head, +on the prospect of a market held out by this country. Crushed by the +_Arret_ of September the 28th, in its first feeble effort to revive, it +will rise no more. Expeditions, which require the expense of the outfit +of vessels, and from nine to twelve months' navigation, as the southern +fishery does, most frequented by the Americans, cannot be undertaken +in sole reliance on a market, which is opened and shut from one day to +another, with little or no warning. The English alone, then, will remain +to furnish these supplies, and they must be received, even from them. +We must accept bread from our enemies, if our friends cannot furnish +it. This comes exactly to the point, to which that government has +been looking. She fears no rival in the whale-fishery, but America: or +rather, it is the whale-fishery of America, of which she is endeavoring +to possess herself. It is for this object, she is making the present +extraordinary efforts, by bounties and other encouragements: and her +success, so far, is very flattering. Before the war, she had not one +hundred vessels in the whale-trade, while America employed three hundred +and nine. In 1786, Great Britain employed one hundred and fifty-one +vessels; in 1787, two hundred and eighty-six; in 1788, three hundred +and fourteen, nearly the ancient American number: while the latter has +fallen to about eighty. They have just changed places then; England +having gained, exactly what America has lost. France, by her ports and +markets, holds the balance between the two contending parties, and gives +the victory, by opening and shutting them, to which she pleases. We have +still precious remains of seamen, educated in this fishery, and capable +by their poverty, their boldness, and address, of recovering it from +the English, in spite of their bounties. But this Arret endangers the +transferring to Great Britain every man of them, who is not invincibly +attached to his native soil. There is no other nation in present +condition to maintain a competition with Great Britain in the +whale-fishery. The expense, at which it is supported on her part, seems +enormous. Two hundred and fifty-five vessels, of seventy-five thousand +four hundred and thirty-six tons, employed by her, this year, in the +northern fishery, at forty-two men each; and fifty-nine in the southern, +at eighteen men each, make eleven thousand seven hundred and seventy-two +men. These are known to have cost the government fifteen pounds each, or +one hundred and seventy-six thousand five hundred and eighty pounds, in +the whole, and that, to employ the principal part of them from three to +four months only. The northern ships have brought home twenty, and the +southern sixty tons of oil, on an average; making eighty-six hundred +and forty tons. Every ton of oil, then, has cost the government twenty +pounds in bounty. Still, if they can beat, us out of the field, and +have it to themselves, they will think their money well employed. If +France undertakes, solely, the competition against them, she must do +it at equal expense. The trade is too poor to support itself. The +eighty-five ships, necessary to supply even her present consumption, +bountied, as the English are, will require a sacrifice of twelve hundred +and eighty-five thousand two hundred livres a year, to maintain three +thousand five hundred and seventy seamen, and that, a part of the year +only; and if she will put it to twelve thousand men, in competition with +England, she must sacrifice, as they do, four or five millions a year. +The same number of men might, with the same bounty, be kept in as +constant employ, carrying stone from Bayonne to Cherburg, or coal from +Newcastle to Havre, in which navigations they would be always at +hand, and become as good seamen. The English consider among their best +sailors, those employed to carry coal from Newcastle to London. France +cannot expect to raise her fishery, even to the supply of her own +consumption, in one year, or in several years. Is it not better, then, +by keeping her ports open to the United States, to enable them to aid in +maintaining the field against the common adversary, till she shall be in +condition to take it herself, and to supply her own wants? Otherwise her +supplies must aliment that very force, which is keeping her under. On +our part, we can never be dangerous competitors to France. The extent +to which we can exercise this fishery, is limited to that of the barren +island of Nantucket, and a few similar barren spots; its duration, to +the pleasure of this government, as we have no other market. A material +observation must be added here: sudden vicissitudes of opening and +shutting ports, do little injury to merchants settled on the opposite +coast, watching for the opening, like the return of a tide, and ready to +enter with it. But they ruin the adventurer, whose distance requires six +months' notice. Those who are now arriving from America, in consequence +of the Arret of December the 29th, will consider it as the false light +which has led them to their ruin. They will be apt to say, that they +come to the ports of France by invitation of that _Arret_, that the +subsequent one of September the 28th, which drives them from those +ports, founds itself on a single principle, viz. 'that the prohibition +of foreign oils is the most useful encouragement which can be given +to that branch of industry.' They will say, that, if this be a true +principle, it was as true on the 29th of December 1787, as on the 20th +of September, 1788: it was then weighed against other motives, judged +weaker and overruled, and it is hard it should be now revived, to ruin +them. + +The refinery for whale-oil, lately established at Rouen, seems to be +an object worthy of national attention. In order to judge of its +importance, the different qualities of whale-oil must be noted. Three +qualities are known in the American and English markets. 1st. That of +the spermaceti whale. 2nd. Of the Greenland whale. 3rd. Of the Brazil +whale. 1. The spermaceti whale found by the _Nantuckois_, in the +neighborhood of the Western Islands, to which they had gone in pursuit +of other whales, retired thence to the coast of Guinea, afterwards to +that of Brazil, and begins now to be best found in the latitude of +the Cape of Good Hope, and even of Cape Horn. He is an active, fierce +animal, and requires vast address and boldness in the fisherman. The +inhabitants of Brazil make little expeditions from their coast, and take +some of these fish. But the Americans are the only distant people, who +have been in the habit of seeking and attacking him, in numbers. The +British, however, led by the _Nantuckois_, whom they have decoyed into +their service, have begun this fishery. In 1785, they had eighteen ships +in it; in 1787, thirty-eight; in 1788, fifty-four, or, as some say, +sixty-four. I have calculated on the middle number, fifty-nine. Still +they take but a very small proportion of their own demand; we furnish +the rest. Theirs is the only market to which we carry that oil, because +it is the only one where its properties are known. It is luminous, +resists coagulation by cold, to the forty-first degree of Fahrenheit's +thermometer, and fourth of Reaumur's, and yields no smell at all: it is +used, therefore, within doors, to lighten shops, and even in the richest +houses, for antichambers, stairs, galleries, &c. It sells at the London +market for treble the price of common whale-oil. This enables the +adventurer to pay the duty of eighteen pounds five shillings sterling +the ton, and still to have a living profit. Besides the mass of oil +produced from the whole body of the whale, his head yields three or +four barrels of what is called head-matter, from which is made the solid +spermaceti, used for medicine and candles. This sells by the pound at +double the price of the oil. The disadvantage of this fishery is, that +the sailors are from nine to twelve months absent on the voyage; of +course, they are not at hand on any sudden emergency, and are even +liable to be taken, before they know that war is begun. It must be +added, on the subject of this whale, that he is rare and shy, soon +abandoning the grounds where he is hunted. This fishery, less losing +than the other, and often profitable, will occasion it to be so +thronged, soon, as to bring it on a level with the other. It will then +require the same expensive support, or to be abandoned. + +2. The Greenland whale-oil is next in quality. It resists coagulation +by cold, to thirty-six degrees of Fahrenheit, and two of Reaumur, but it +has a smell insupportable within doors, and is not luminous. It sells, +therefore, in London, at about sixteen pounds the ton. This whale is +clumsy and timid; he dives when struck, and comes up to breathe by the +first cake of ice, where the fishermen need little address or courage +to find and take him. This is the fishery mostly frequented by European +nations; it is this fish which yields the fin in quantity, and the +voyages last about three or four months. + +The third quality is that of the small Brazil whale. He was originally +found on the coast of Nantucket, and first led that people to this +pursuit: he retired, first to the Banks of Newfoundland, then to the +Western Islands, and is now found within soundings on the coast of +Brazil, during the months of December, January, February, and March. His +oil chills at fifty-two degrees of Fahrenheit, and eight of Reaumur, is +black and offensive; worth, therefore, but thirteen pounds the ton, +in London. In warm summer nights, however, it burns better than the +Greenland oil. + +To the qualities of the oils thus described, it is to be added, that an +individual has discovered methods, 1. of converting a great part of +the oils of the spermaceti-whale, into the solid substance called +spermaceti, heretofore produced from his head alone; 2. of refining +the Greenland whale-oil, so as to take from it all smell, and render it +limpid and luminous as that of the spermaceti-whale; 3. of curdling +the oil of the Brazil whale into tallow, resembling that of beef, and +answering all its purposes. This person is engaged by the company, which +has established the refinery at Rouen: their works will cost them half a +million of livres; will be able to refine all the oil which can be used +in the kingdom, and even to supply foreign markets. The effects of the +refinery, then, would be, 1. to supplant the solid spermaceti of all +other nations, by theirs, of equal quality and lower price; 2. to +substitute, instead of spermaceti-oil, their black whale-oil refined, +of equal quality and lower price; 3. to render the worthless oil of the +Brazil, equal in value to tallow; and 4. by accommodating these oils to +uses, to which they could never otherwise have been applied, they will +extend the demand beyond its present narrow limits, to any supply which +can be furnished, and thus give the most effectual encouragement and +extension to the whale-fishery. But these works were calculated on the +_Arret_ of December the 29th, which admitted here, freely and fully, +the produce of the American fishery. If confined to that of the French +fishery alone, the enterprise may fail, for want of matter to work on. + +After this review of the whale-fishery as a political institution, a few +considerations shall be added on its produce, as a basis of commercial +exchange between France and the United States. The discussions it has +undergone, on former occasions, in this point of view, leaves little new +to be now urged. + +The United States, not possessing mines of the precious metals, can +purchase necessaries from other nations, so far only as their produce is +received in exchange. Without enumerating our smaller articles, we have +three of principal importance, proper for the French market; to wit, +tobacco, whale-oil, and rice. The first and most important, is tobacco. +This might furnish an exchange for eight millions of the productions of +this country; but it is under a monopoly, and that not of a mercantile, +but of a financiering company, whose interest is, to pay in money +and not in merchandise, and who are so much governed by the spirit of +simplifying their purchases and proceedings, that they find means to +elude every endeavor on the part of government, to make them diffuse +their purchases among the merchants in general. Little profit is +derived from this, then, as an article of exchange for the produce and +manufactures of France. Whale-oil might be next in importance; but +that is now prohibited. American rice is not yet of great, but it is of +growing consumption in France, and being the only article of the three +which is free, it may become a principal basis of exchange. Time and +trial may add a fourth, that is, timber. But some essays, rendered +unsuccessful by unfortunate circumstances, place that, at present, under +a discredit, which it will be found hereafter not to have merited. The +English know its value, and were supplied with it, before the war. A +spirit of hostility, since that event, led them to seek Russian rather +than American supplies; a new spirit of hostility has driven them back +from Russia, and they are now making contracts for American timber. +But of the three articles before mentioned, proved by experience to be +suitable for the French market, one is prohibited, one under monopoly, +and one alone free, and that the smallest and of very limited +consumption. The way to encourage purchasers, is, to multiply their +means of payment. Whale-oil might be an important one. In one scale, are +the interests of the millions who are lighted, shod, or clothed with the +help of it, and the thousands of laborers and manufacturers, who would +be employed in producing the articles which might be given in exchange +for it, if received from America: in the other scale, are the +interests of the adventurers in the whale-fishery each of whom, indeed, +politically considered, may be of more importance to the State, than +a simple laborer or manufacturer; but to make the estimate with the +accuracy it merits, we should multiply the numbers in each scale into +their individual importance, and see which preponderates. + +Both governments have seen with concern, that their commercial +intercourse does not grow as rapidly as they would wish. The system +of the United States is, to use neither prohibitions nor premiums. +Commerce, there, regulates itself freely, and asks nothing better. +Where a government finds itself under the necessity of undertaking that +regulation, it would seem, that it should conduct it as an intelligent +merchant would; that is to say, invite customers to purchase, by +facilitating their means of payment, and by adapting goods to their +taste. If this idea be just, government here has two operations to +attend to, with respect to the commerce of the United States; 1. to +do away, or to moderate, as much as possible, the prohibitions +and monopolies of their materials for payment; 2. to encourage the +institution of the principal manufactures, which the necessities, or the +habits of their new customers call for. Under this latter head, a hint +shall be suggested, which must find its apology in the motive from which +it flows; that is, a desire of promoting mutual interests and close +friendship. Six hundred thousand of the laboring poor of America, +comprehending slaves under that denomination, are clothed in three +of the simplest manufactures possible; to wit, oznaburgs, plains, +and duffel blankets. The first is a linen; the two last, woollens. It +happens, too, that they are used exactly by those who cultivate +the tobacco and rice, and in a good degree by those employed in the +whale-fishery. To these manufactures they are so habituated, that no +substitute will be received. If the vessels which bring tobacco, rice, +and whale-oil, do not find them in the ports of delivery, they must be +sought where they can be found; that is, in England, at present. If they +were made in France, they would be gladly taken in exchange there. The +quantities annually used by this description of people, and their value, +are as follows: + + Oznaburgs 2,700,000 aunes, at sixteen sous the aune, worth + 2,160,000 + + Plains 1,350,000 aunes, at two livres the aune, + 2,700,000 + + Duffel Blankets 300,000 aunes, at seven and 4/5ths livres each + 2,160,000 + ---------- + 7,020,000 + +It would be difficult to say, how much should be added, for the +consumption of inhabitants of other descriptions; a great deal surely. +But the present view shall be confined to the one description named. +Seven millions of livres, are nine millions of days' work, of those who +raise, spin, and weave the wool and flax; and, at three hundred working +days to the year, would maintain thirty thousand people. To introduce +these simple manufactures, suppose government to give five per cent, on +the value of what should be exported of them, for ten years to come: if +none should be exported, nothing would be to be paid: but on the other +hand, if the manufactures, with this encouragement, should rise to +the full demand, it will be a sacrifice of three hundred and fifty-one +thousand livres a year, for ten years only, to produce a perpetual +subsistence for more than thirty thousand people (for the demand will +grow with our population); while she must expend perpetually one million +two hundred and eighty-five thousand livres a year, to maintain the +three thousand five hundred and seventy seamen, who would supply her +with whale-oil. That is to say, for each seaman, as much as for thirty +laborers and manufacturers. + +But to return to our subject, and to conclude. + +Whether, then, we consider the _Arret_ of September the 28th, in a +political or a commercial light, it would seem, that the United States +should be excepted from its operation. Still more so, when they invoke +against it the amity subsisting between the two nations, the desire of +binding them together by every possible interest and connection, the +several acts in favor of this exception, the dignity of legislation, +which admits not of changes backwards and forwards, the interests of +commerce, which requires steady regulations, the assurances of the +friendly motives which have led the King to pass these acts, and the +hope, that no cause will arise, to change either his motives or his +measures towards us. + + + + +LETTER CLXXI.--TO JOHN JAY, November 29, 1788 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, November 29, 1788. + +Sir, + +In the hurry of making up my letter of the 19th instant, I omitted the +enclosed printed paper, on the subject of whale-oil. That omission +is now supplied by another conveyance, by the way of London. The +explanatory _Arret_ is not yet come out. I still take for granted, it +will pass, though there be an opposition to it in the Council. In the +mean time, orders are given to receive our oils which may arrive. The +apprehension of a want of corn has induced them to turn their eyes to +foreign supplies; and to show their preference of receiving them from +us, they have passed the enclosed _Arret_, giving a premium on wheat +and flour from the United States, for a limited time. This, you will +doubtless think proper to have translated and published. The _Notables_ +are still in session: the votes of the separate bureaux have not yet +been reduced to a joint act, in an assembly of the whole. I see no +reason to suppose they will change the separate votes relative to the +representation of the _Tiers Etat_ in the States General. In the mean +time, the stream of public indignation, heretofore directed against the +court, sets strongly against the _Notables_. It is not yet decided when +the States will meet: but certainly they cannot, till February or March. +The Turks have retired across the Danube. This movement indicates their +going into winter-quarters, and the severity of the weather must hasten +it. The thermometer was yesterday at eight degrees of Fahrenheit, that +is, twenty-four degrees below freezing; a degree of cold equal to that +of the year 1740, which they count here among their coldest winters. +This having continued many days, and being still likely to continue, and +the wind from northeast, render it probable, that all enterprise must be +suspended between the three great belligerent powers. Poland is +likely to be thrown into great convulsions. The Empress of Russia has +peremptorily demanded such aids from Poland, as might engage it in the +war. The King of Prussia, on the other hand, threatens to march an army +on their borders. The vote of the Polish confederacy for one hundred +thousand men, was a coalition of the two parties, in that single act +only. The party opposed to the King, have obtained a majority, and have +voted that this army shall be independent of him. They are supported by +Prussia, while the King depends on Russia. Authentic information from +England leaves not a doubt, that the King is lunatic; and that, instead +of the effect, is the cause of the illness, under which he has been so +near dying. I mention this, because the English newspapers, speaking by +guess on that as they do on all other subjects, might mislead you as to +his true situation; or rather, might mislead others, who know less +than you do, that a thing is not rendered the more probable, by being +mentioned in those papers. + +I enclose those of Leyden to the present date, with the gazettes of +France, and have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect +esteem and respect, Sir, your most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson + + + + +LETTER, CLXXII.--TO GENERAL WASHINGTON, December 4, 1788 + + +TO GENERAL WASHINGTON. + +Paris, December 4, 1788. + +Sir, + +Your favor of August the 31st came to hand yesterday; and a confidential +conveyance offering, by the way of London, I avail myself of it, to +acknowledge the receipt. + +I have seen, with infinite pleasure, our new constitution accepted by +eleven States, not rejected by the twelfth; and that the thirteenth +happens to be a state of the least importance. It is true, that the +minorities in most of the accepting States have been very respectable; +so much so, as to render it prudent, were it not otherwise reasonable, +to make some sacrifice to them. I am in hopes, that the annexation of +a bill of rights to the constitution will alone draw over so great +a proportion of the minorities, as to leave little danger in the +opposition of the residue; and that this annexation may be made by +Congress and the Assemblies, without calling a convention, which +might endanger the most valuable parts of the system. Calculation has +convinced me, that circumstances may arise, and probably will arise, +wherein all the resources of taxation will be necessary for the safety +of the State. For though I am decidedly of opinion, we should take no +part in European quarrels, but cultivate peace and commerce with all, +yet who can avoid seeing the source of war in the tyranny of those +nations, who deprive us of the natural right of trading with our +neighbors? The produce of the United States will soon exceed the +European demand: what is to be done with the surplus, when there shall +be one? It will be employed, without question, to open, by force, a +market for itself, with those placed on the same continent with us, +and who wish nothing better. Other causes, too, are obvious, which +may involve us in war; and war requires every resource of taxation and +credit. The power of making war often prevents it, and in our case, +would give efficacy to our desire of peace. If the new government wears +the front which I hope it will, I see no impossibility in the availing +ourselves of the wars of others, to open the other parts of America to +our commerce, as the price of our neutrality. + +The campaign between the Turks and two Empires has been clearly in favor +of the former. The Emperor is secretly trying to bring about a peace. +The alliance between England, Prussia, and Holland, (and some suspect +Sweden also) renders their mediation decisive, wherever it is proposed. +They seemed to interpose it so magisterially between Denmark and Sweden, +that the former submitted to its dictates, and there was all reason +to believe, that the war in the northwestern parts of Europe would be, +quieted. All of a sudden, a new flame bursts out in Poland. The King and +his party are devoted to Russia. The opposition rely on the protection +of Prussia. They have lately become the majority in the confederated +diet, and have passed a vote for subjecting their army to a commission +independent of the King, and propose a perpetual diet, in which case +he will be a perpetual cipher. Russia declares against such a change +in their constitution, and Prussia has put an army into readiness, for +marching, at a moment's warning, on the frontier of Poland. These events +are too recent, to see, as yet, what turn they will take, or what effect +they will have on the peace of Europe. So is that also, of the lunacy +of the King of England, which is a decided fact, notwithstanding all the +stuff the English papers publish, about his fevers, his deliriums, &c. +The truth is, that the lunacy declared itself almost at once, and with +as few concomitant complaints, as usually attend the first developement +of that disorder. I suppose a regency will be established, and if it +consists of a plurality of members, it will, probably, be peaceable. In +this event, it will much favor the present wishes of this country, +which are so decidedly for peace, that they refused to enter into the +mediation between Sweden and Russia, lest it should commit them. As soon +as the convocation of the States General was announced, a tranquillity +took place through the whole kingdom: happily, no open rupture had +taken place, in any part of it. The parliament were re-instated in their +functions, at the same time. This was all they desired; and they had +called for the States General, only through fear that the crown could +not otherwise be forced to re-instate them. Their end obtained, they +began to foresee danger to themselves, in the States General. They began +to lay the foundation for caviling at the legality of that body, if its +measures should be hostile to them. The court, to clear itself of the +dispute, convened the _Notables_, who had acted with general approbation +on the former occasion, and referred to them the forms of calling and +organizing the States General. These _Notables_ consist principally +of Nobility and Clergy; the few of the _Tiers Etat_ among them, being +either parliament men, or other privileged persons. The court wished, +that, in the future States General, the members of the _Tiers Etat_ +should equal those of both the other orders, and that they should form +but one House, all together, and vote by persons, not by orders. But the +_Notables_, in the true spirit of Priests and Nobles, combining together +against the people, have voted, by five bureaux out of six, that the +people, or _Tiers Etat_, shall have no greater number of deputies, than +each of the other orders separately, and that they shall vote by orders: +so that two orders concurring in a vote, the third will be overruled; +for it is not here as in England, where each of the three branches has +a negative on the other two. If this project of theirs succeeds, a +combination between the two Houses of Clergy and Nobles will render the +representation of the _Tiers Etat_ merely nugatory. The bureaux are to +assemble together, to consolidate their separate votes: but I see no +reasonable hope of their changing this. Perhaps the King, knowing that +he may count on the support of the nation, and attach it more closely to +him, may take on himself to disregard the opinion of the _Notables_ in +this instance, and may call an equal representation of the people, in +which precedents will support him. In every event, I think the present +disquiet will end well. The nation has been awaked by our Revolution; +they feel their strength, they are enlightened, their lights are +spreading, and they will not retrograde. The first States General may +establish three important points, without opposition from the court; 1. +their own periodical convocation; 2. their exclusive right of taxation +(which has been confessed by the King); 3. the right of registering +laws, and of previously proposing amendments to them, as the parliaments +have, by usurpation, been in the habit of doing. The court will consent +to this, from its hatred to the parliaments, and from the desire of +having to do with one, rather than many legislatures. If the States are +prudent, they will not aim at more than this at first, lest they should +shock the dispositions of the court, and even alarm the public +mind, which must be left to open itself, by degrees, to successive +improvements. These will follow, from the nature of things: how far they +can proceed, in the end, towards a thorough reformation of abuse, cannot +be foreseen. In my opinion, a kind of influence, which none of their +plans of reform take into account, will elude them all; I mean the +influence of women in the government. The manners of the nation allow +them to visit, alone, all persons in office, to solicit the affairs of +the husband, family, or friends, and their solicitations bid defiance +to laws and regulations. This obstacle may seem less to those, who, like +our countrymen, are in the precious habit of considering right, as +a barrier against all solicitation. Nor can such an one, without the +evidence of his own eyes, believe in the desperate state to which things +are reduced in this country, from the omnipotence of an influence, +which, fortunately for the happiness of the sex itself, does not +endeavor to extend itself, in our country, beyond the domestic line. + +Your communications to the Count de Moustier, whatever they may have +been, cannot have done injury to my endeavors here, to open the West +Indies to us. On this head, the ministers are invincibly mute, though I +have often tried to draw them into the subject. I have therefore found +it necessary to let it lie, till war, or other circumstances, may force +it on. Whenever they are in war with England, they must open the islands +to us, and perhaps, during that war, they may see some price which might +make them agree to keep them always open. In the mean time, I have laid +my shoulder to the opening the markets of this country to our produce, +and rendering its transportation a nursery for our seamen. A maritime +force is the only one, by which we can act on Europe. Our navigation law +(if it be wise to have any) should be the reverse of that of England. +Instead of confining importations to home-bottoms, or those of +the producing nation, I think we should confine exportations to +home-bottoms, or to those of nations having treaties with us. Our +exportations are heavy, and would nourish a great force of our own, +or be a tempting price to the nation to whom we should offer a +participation of it, in exchange for free access to all their +possessions. This is an object to which our government alone is +adequate, in the gross; but I have ventured to pursue it here, so far as +the consumption of our productions by this country extends. Thus, in +our arrangements relative to tobacco, none can be received here, but +in French or American bottoms. This is employment for near two thousand +seamen, and puts nearly that number of British out of employ. By the +_Arret_ of December, 1787, it was provided, that our whale-oils should +not be received here, but in French or American bottoms; and by later +regulations, all oils, but those of France and America, are excluded. +This will put one hundred English whale vessels immediately out of +employ, and one hundred and fifty ere long; and call so many of French +and American into service. We have had six thousand seamen formerly +in this business, the whole of whom we have been likely to lose. +The consumption of rice is growing fast in this country, and that of +Carolina gaining ground on every other kind. I am of opinion, the whole +of the Carolina rice can be consumed here. Its transportation employs +two thousand five hundred sailors, almost all of them English at +present; the rice being deposited at Cowes, and brought from thence +here. It would be dangerous to confine this transportation to French and +American bottoms, the ensuing year, because they will be much engrossed +by the transportation of wheat and flour hither, and the crop of rice +might lie on hand for want of vessels; but I see no objections to the +extension of our principle to this article also, beginning with the year +1790. However, before there is a necessity of deciding on this, I hope +to be able to consult our new government in person, as I have asked of +Congress a leave of absence for six months, that is to say, from April +to November next. It is necessary for me to pay a short visit to my +native country, first, to reconduct my family thither, and place them +in the hands of their friends, and secondly, to place my private affairs +under certain arrangements. When I left my own house, I expected to be +absent but five months, and I have been led by events to an absence +of five years. I shall hope, therefore, for the pleasure of personal +conferences with your Excellency, on the subject of this letter, and +others interesting to our country; of getting my own ideas set to rights +by a communication of yours, and of taking again the tone of sentiment +of my own country, which we lose in some degree, after a certain +absence. You know, doubtless, of the death of the Marquis de Chastellux. +The Marquis de la Fayette is out of favor with the court, but high in +favor with the nation. I once feared for his personal liberty, but I +hope he is on safe ground at present. + +On the subject of the whale-fishery, I enclose you some observations I +drew up for the ministry here, in order to obtain a correction of their +_Arret_ of September last, whereby they had involved our oils with the +English, in a general exclusion from their ports. They will accordingly +correct this, so that our oils will participate with theirs, in the +monopoly of their markets. There are several things incidentally +introduced, which do not seem pertinent to the general question: they +were rendered necessary by particular circumstances, the explanation +of which would add to a letter already too long. I will trespass no +further, than to assure you of the sentiments of sincere attachment +and respect, with which I have the honor to be your Excellency's most +obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + +P. S. The observations enclosed, though printed, have been put into +confidential hands only. T. J. + + + + +LETTER CLXXIII.--TO JOHN ADAMS, December 5, 1788 + + +TO JOHN ADAMS. + +Paris, December 5, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +I had the pleasure of writing to you on the 2nd of August, and of adding +a Postscript of August the 6th. + +You recollect well the _Arret_ of December the 29th, 1787, in favor of +our commerce, and which, among other things, gave free admission to our +whale-oil, under a duty of about two louis a ton. In consequence of the +English treaty, their oils flowed in, and over-stocked the market. The +light duty they were liable to under the treaty, still lessened by false +estimates and aided by the high premiums of the British government, +enabled them to undersell the French and American oils. This produced an +outcry of the Dunkirk fishery. It was proposed to exclude all European +oils, which would not infringe the British treaty. I could not but +encourage this idea, because it would give to the French and American +fisheries a monopoly of the French market. The _Arret_ was so drawn +up; but, in the very moment of passing it, they struck out the word +European, so that our oils became involved. This, I believe, was the +effect of a single person in the ministry. As soon as it was known to +me, I wrote to Monsieur de Montmorin, and had conferences with him and +the other ministers. I found it necessary to give them information on +the subject of the whale-fishery, of which they knew little but from the +partial information of their Dunkirk adventurers. I therefore wrote the +observations (of which I enclose you a printed copy), had them printed +to entice them to read them, and particularly developed the expense at +which they are carrying on that fishery, and at which they must continue +it, if they do continue it. This part was more particularly intended for +Mr. Necker, who was quite a stranger to the subject, who has principles +of economy, and will enter into calculations. Other subjects are +incidentally introduced; though little connected with the main question, +they had been called for by other circumstances. An immediate order was +given for the present admission of our oils, till they could form +an _Arret_; and, at a conference, the draught of an _Arret_ was +communicated to me, which re-established that of December the 29th. They +expressed fears, that, under cover of our name, the Nova Scotia oils +would be introduced; and a blank was left in the draught for the means +of preventing that. They have since proposed, that the certificate of +their consul shall accompany the oils, to authorize their admission, +and this is what they will probably adopt. It was observed, that if our +States would prohibit all foreign oils from being imported into them, it +would be a great safeguard, and an encouragement to them to continue the +admission. Still there remains an expression in the _Arret_, that it is +provisory only. However, we must be contented with it as it is; my +hope being, that the legislature will be transferred to the National +Assembly, in whose hands it will be more stable, and with whom it will +be more difficult to obtain a repeal, should the ministry hereafter +desire it. If they could succeed in drawing over as many of our +Nantucket men as would supply their demands of oil, we might then fear +an exclusion; but the present _Arret_, as soon as it shall be passed, +will, I hope, place us in safety till that event, and that event may +never happen. I have entered into all these details, that you may be +enabled to quiet the alarm which must have been raised by the _Arret_ +of September the 28th, and assure the adventurers that they may pursue +their enterprises as safely as if that had never been passed, and more +profitably, because we participate now of a monopolized, instead of an +open market. The enclosed observations, though printed, have only been +given to the ministers, and one or two other confidential persons. You +will see that they contain matter which should be kept from the English, +and will therefore trust them to the perusal only of such persons as you +can confide in. We are greatly indebted to the Marquis de la Fayette +for his aid on this, as on every other occasion. He has paid the closest +attention to it, and combated for us with the zeal of a native. + +The necessity of reconducting my family to America, and of placing my +affairs there under permanent arrangements, has obliged me to ask of +Congress a six months' absence, to wit, from April to November next. +I hope, therefore, to have the pleasure of seeing you there, and +particularly, that it will be at New York that I shall find you. Be so +good as to present my sincere esteem to Mrs. Adams, and believe me +to be, with very affectionate attachment, Dear Sir, your friend and +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXIV.--TO MR. SHORT, December 8, 1788 + + +TO MR. SHORT. + +Paris, December 8, 1788. + +Dear Sir, + +My last to you was of the 21st of November, addressed to Milan, _poste +restante_, according to the desire expressed through Mrs. Paradise. +I have lately received yours of the 19th of November, and sincerely +felicitate you on your recovery. I wish you may have suffered this to be +sufficiently established before you set out on your journey. The present +letter will probably reach you amidst the classical enjoyments of +Rome. I feel myself kindle at the reflection, to make that journey; but +circumstances will oblige me to postpone it at least. We are here +under a most extraordinary degree of cold. The thermometer has been ten +degrees of Reaumur below freezing: this is eight degrees of Fahrenheit +above zero, and was the degree of cold here in the year 1740. The long +continuance of this severity, and the snow now on the ground, give +physical prognostications of a hard winter. You will be in a privileged +climate, and will have had an enviable escape from this. The _Notables_ +are not yet separated, nor is their treasonable vote against the people +yet consolidated; but it will be. The parliament have taken up the +subject, and passed a very laudable vote in opposition. They have made +it the occasion of giving sketches of what should be a bill of rights. +Perhaps this opposition of authority may give the court an option +between the two. Stocks are rising slowly, but steadily. The loan of +1784 is at thirteen loss; the _caisse d'escompte_, four thousand and +seventy-five. The Count de Bryenne has retired, and M. de Puysegur +succeeded to his place. Madame de Chambonois (sister of M. de Langear) +is dead of the small-pox. Pio is likely to receive a good appointment in +his own country, which will take him from us. Corn is likely to become +extremely scarce in France, Spain, and England. This country has offered +a premium of forty sous the quintal on flour of the United States, +and thirty sous the quintal on our wheat, to be brought here between +February and June. + +General Washington writes me, that industry and economy begin to take +place of that idleness and extravagance which had succeeded the close +of the war. The Potomac canal is in great forwardness. J. M. writes me +word, that Mr. Jay and General Knox are talked of in the Middle States +for Vice-Presidents, but he queries whether both will not prefer their +present births. It seems agreed, that some emendations will be made to +the new constitution. All are willing to add a bill of rights; but they +fear the power of internal taxation will be abridged. The friends of +the new government will oppose the method of amendment by a federal +convention, which would subject the whole instrument to change, and they +will support the other method, which admits Congress, by a vote of two +thirds, to submit specific changes to the Assemblies, three fourths of +whom must concur to establish them. + +The enclosed letter is from Pallegrino, one of the Italian laborers +established in our neighborhood. I fancy it contains one for his father. +I have supposed it would not be unpleasant to you to have the delivery +of it, as it may give you a good opportunity of conferring with one of +that class as much as you please. I obey at the same time my own wishes +to oblige the writer. Mazzei is at this time ill, but not in danger. I +am impatient to receive further letters from you, which may assure me of +the solidity of your recovery, being, with great anxiety for your health +and happiness, Dear Sir, your affectionate friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + [The annexed is here inserted in the Author's MS. To whom + addressed, does not appear.] + +The Minister Plenipotentiary for the United States of America finds +himself under the necessity of declining to authenticate writings +destined to be sent to the United States, for this main reason, that +such authentication is not legal evidence there. After a reason so +sufficient, it seems superfluous to add, that, were his authentication +admissible in the courts of the United States, he could never give it to +any seal or signature, which had not been put in his presence; that he +could never certify a copy, unless both that and the original were in a +hand-writing legible to him, and had been compared together by him, +word by word: that so numerous are the writings presented, that their +authentication alone would occupy the greater part of his time, and, +withdrawing him from his proper duties, would change the nature of his +office to that of a notary. He observes to those who do him the honor +of addressing themselves to him on this subject, that the laws for the +authentication of foreign writings are not the same through all the +United States, some requiring an authentication under the seal of the +_Prevote_ of a city, and others admitting that of a Notary: but that +writings authenticated in both these manners, will, under the one or the +other, be admitted in most, if not all of the United States. It would +seem advisable, then, to furnish them with this double authentication. + + + + +LETTER CLXXV.--TO DOCTOR GILMER, December 16, 1788 + + +TO DOCTOR GILMER. + +Paife, December 16, 1788. + +Dear Doctor, + +Your last letter of December the 23rd was unlucky, like the former one, +in arriving while I was absent on a call of public business in Holland. +I was discouraged from answering the law part of it on my return, +because I foresaw such a length of time between the date of that and +receipt of the answer, as would give it the air of a prescription after +the death of the patient. I hope the whole affair is settled, and that +you are established in good titles to all the lands. Still, however, +being on the subject, I cannot help adding a word, in answer to the +objection which you say is raised on the words 'the estate,' instead of +'my estate.' It has long been confessed in the courts, that the +first decision, that a devise of lands to a person without words +of inheritance, should carry an estate for life only, was an absurd +decision, founded on feudal principles, after feudal ideas had long been +lost by the unlettered writers of their own wills: and it has often been +said, that were the matter to begin again, it should be decided that +such a devise should carry a fee simple, as every body is sensible +testators intend, by these expressions. The courts, therefore, +circumscribe the authority of this chain of decisions, all hanging on +the first link, as much as possible; and they avail themselves of every +possible circumstance which may render any new case unlike the old one, +and authorize them to conform their judgments to common sense, and the +will of the testator. Hence they decide, that in a devise of 'my estate +at M.' to such a one, without words of inheritance, the word estate is +descriptive of the duration of the interest bequeathed, as well as its +locality. From the same desire of getting back into the paths of common +sense, they would not suffer the particle 'the' instead of 'my', to make +a difference. 'My estate at M.' means not only my lands at M., but my +fee simple in them. 'The estate at M.' means not only 'the lands the +testator holds at M., but the fee simple he has in them.' Another +objection will be made, perhaps, viz. that the testator devises in +the same clause his estate called Marrow-bone, his tract called +Horse-pasture, and his tract called Poison-field; that it is probable he +intended to give the same interest in all; and as it is confessed that +the word tract conveys but an estate for life, we must conclude that the +word estate was meant to convey the same. I should reverse the argument, +and say, as it confessed the word estate, conveys an estate in fee +simple, we must conclude the word tract was meant to convey the same; +that this conclusion coincides with the wishes of the courts, as +bringing them back to what is right and consentaneous to the intention +of the testator, as furnishing them a circumstance to distinguish the +case from the original one, and withdraw it from its authority; whereas, +the contrary conclusion tends to lead them further from the meaning of +testators, and to fix them in error. + +But I perceive that my wishes to see the weight of no objection where +you are interested, are leading me to write an argument, where I had +promised I would say only a word. I will, therefore, talk the subject +over with you at Monticello, or Pen-park. I have asked of Congress a +leave of five or six months' absence next year, that I may carry my +daughters home, and assist in the arrangement of my affairs. I shall +pass two of the months at Monticello, that is to say, either June and +July, or July and August, according to the time I may sail, which I hope +will be in April: and then go on to New York and Boston, from whence I +shall embark again for Europe, so as to get here before the winter sets +in. I look forward with great fondness to the moment, when I can again +see my own country and my own neighbors, and endeavor to anticipate as +little as possible the pain of another separation from them. I hope +I shall find you all under the peaceable establishment of the new +constitution, which, as far as I can judge from public papers, seems to +have become necessary for the happiness of our country. I thank you for +your kind inquiries about my wrist. I followed advice with it, till I +saw, visibly, that the joint had never been replaced, and that it was +absurd to expect that cataplasms and waters would reduce dislocated +bones. From that moment I have done nothing. I have for ever lost the +use of my hand, except that I can write: and a withered hand and swelled +and crooked fingers, still remaining twenty-seven months after the +accident, make me fear I do not yet know the worst of it. But this, too, +we will talk over at Monticello, and endeavor that it be the only pain +to which our attention may be recalled. Adieu, my dear friend. Kiss and +bless every body for me, Mrs. Gilmer especially. Assure her and +yourself of the sincere and constant attachment of, Dear Doctor, your +affectionate friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXVI.--TO THOMAS PAINE, December 23,1788 + + +TO THOMAS PAINE. + +Paris, December 23,1788. + +Dear Sir, + +It is true that I received very long ago your favors of September the +9th and 15th, and that I have been in daily intention of answering them, +fully and confidentially; but you know such a correspondence between +you and me cannot pass through the post, nor even by the couriers +of ambassadors. The French packet-boats being discontinued, I am now +obliged to watch opportunities by Americans going to London, to write +my letters to America. Hence it has happened, that these, the sole +opportunities by which I can write to you without fear, have been lost, +by the multitude of American letters I had to write. I now determine, +without foreseeing any such conveyance, to begin my letter to you, +so that when a conveyance occurs, I shall only have to add recent +occurrences. Notwithstanding the interval of my answer which has taken +place, I must beg a continuance of your correspondence; because I +have great confidence in your communications, and since Mr. Adams's +departure, I am in need of authentic information from that country. + +I will begin with the subject of your bridge, in which I feel myself +interested; and it is with great pleasure that I learn, by your favor +of the 16th, that the execution of the arch of experiment exceeds +your expectations. In your former letter you mention, that, instead of +arranging your tubes and bolts as ordinates to the cord of the arch, you +had reverted to your first idea, of arranging them in the direction of +radii. I am sure it will gain both in beauty and strength. It is true +that the divergence of these radii recurs as a difficulty, in getting +the rails on upon the bolts; but I thought this fully removed by the +answer you first gave me, when I suggested that difficulty, to wit, that +you should place the rails first, and drive the bolts through them, +and not, as I had imagined, place the bolts first, and put the rails on +them. I must doubt whether what you now suggest will be as good as +your first idea; to wit, to have every rail split into two pieces +longitudinally, so that there shall be but the halves of the holes in +each, and then to clamp the two halves together. The solidity of this +method cannot be equal to that of the solid rail, and it increases the +suspicious parts of the whole machine, which, in a first experiment, +ought to be rendered as few as possible. But of all this the practical +iron men are much better judges than we theorists. You hesitate between +the catenary and portion of a circle. I have lately received from Italy +a treatise on the equilibrium of arches, by the Abbe Mascheroni. It +appears to be a very scientifical work. I have not yet had time to +engage in it; but I find that the conclusions of his demonstrations are, +that every part of the catenary is in perfect equilibrium. It is a great +point, then, in a new experiment, to adopt the sole arch, where the +pressure will be equally borne by every point of it. If any one point is +pushed with accumulated pressure, it will introduce a danger, foreign to +the essential part of the plan. The difficulty you suggest, is, that the +rails being all in catenaries, the tubes must be of different lengths, +as these approach nearer or recede farther from each other, and +therefore you recur to the portions of concentric circles, which are +equidistant in all their parts. But I would rather propose, that you +make your middle rail an exact catenary, and the interior and exterior +rails parallels to that. It is true, they will not be exact catenaries, +but they will depart very little from it; much less than portions of +circles will. Nothing has been done here on the subject since you went +away. There is an Abbe D'Arnal at Nismes, who had obtained an exclusive +privilege for navigating the rivers of this country by the aid of the +steam-engine. This interests Mr. Rumsey, who had hoped the same thing. +D'Arnal's privilege was published in a paper of the 10th of November. +Probably, therefore, his application for it was previous to the delivery +of Mr. Rumsey's papers to the secretary of the Academy of Sciences, +which was in the latter part of the month of August. However, D'Arnal is +not a formidable competitor. He is not in circumstances to make any use +himself of his privilege, and he has so illy succeeded with a steam-mill +he erected at Nismes, that he is not likely to engage others to venture +in his projects. To say another word of the catenarian arch, without +caring about mathematical demonstrations, its nature proves it to be in +equilibrio in every point. It is the arch formed by a string fixed at +both ends, and swaying loose in all the intermediate points. Thus at +liberty, they must finally take that position, wherein every one will +be equally pressed; for if any one was more pressed than the neighboring +point, it would give way, from the flexibility of the matter of the +string. + +***** + +I am, with sentiments of sincere esteem and attachment, Dear Sir, your +friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXVII.--TO JOHN JAY, January 11, 1789 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, January 11, 1789. + +Sir, + +My last letters were of the 14th, 19th, and 29th of November, by the way +of London. The present will go the same way, through a private channel. + +All military operations in Europe seem to have been stopped, by the +excessive severity of the weather. In this country, it is unparalleled +in so early a part of the winter, and in duration, having continued +since the middle of November, during which time it has been as low as +nine degrees below nought, that is to say, forty degrees below freezing, +by Fahrenheit's thermometer; and it has increased the difficulties of +the administration here. They had, before, to struggle with the want of +money, and want of bread for the people, and now, the want of fuel for +them, and want of employment. The siege of Oczakow is still continued, +the soldiers sheltering themselves in the Russian manner, in +subterraneous barracks; and the Captain Pacha has retired with his +fleet. The death of the King of Spain has contributed, with the insanity +of the English King, to render problematical the form which the affairs +of Europe will ultimately take. Some think a peace possible between the +Turks and two Empires, with the cession of Crimea to the former, as less +important to Russia than Poland, which she is in danger of losing. In +this case, the two Empires might attack the King of Prussia, and the +scene of war be only changed. He is certainly uneasy at the accident +happened to his principal ally. There seems no doubt, but that the +Prince of Wales will be sole regent; but it is also supposed, they +will not give him the whole executive power, and particularly, that of +declaring war without the consent of the parliament. Should his personal +dispositions, therefore, and that of a new ministry, be the same which +the King had, of co-operating with Prussia, yet the latter cannot count +on their effect. Probably, the parliament will not consent to war, so +that I think we may consider the two great powers of France and England +as absolutely at rest for some time. + +As the character of the Prince of Wales is becoming interesting, I have +endeavored to learn what it truly is. This is less difficult in his +case, than in that of other persons of his rank, because he has taken no +pains to hide himself from the world. The information I most rely on, +is from a person here, with whom I am intimate, who divides his time +between Paris and London, an Englishman by birth, of truth, sagacity, +and science. He is of a circle, when in London, which has had good +opportunities of knowing the Prince; but he has also, himself, had +special occasions of verifying their information, by his own personal +observation. He happened, when last in London, to be invited to a dinner +of three persons. The Prince came by chance, and made the fourth. He +ate half a leg of mutton; did not taste of small dishes, because small; +drank Champagne and Burgundy as small beer during dinner, and Bordeaux +after dinner, as the rest of the company. Upon the whole, he ate as much +as the other three, and drank about two bottles of wine without seeming +to feel it. My informant sat next him, and being till then unknown +to the Prince, personally, (though not by character), and lately from +France, the Prince confined his conversation almost entirely to him. +Observing to the Prince that he spoke French without the least foreign +accent, the Prince told him, that when very young, his father had put +only French servants about him, and that it was to that circumstance he +owed his pronunciation. He led him from this to give an account of his +education, the total of which was the learning a little Latin. He has +not a single element of Mathematics, of Natural or Moral Philosophy, or +of any other science on earth, nor has the society he has kept been such +as to supply the void of education. It has been that of the lowest, the +most illiterate and profligate persons of the kingdom, without choice +of rank or mind, and with whom the subjects of conversation are only +horses, drinking-matches, bawdy houses, and in terms the most vulgar. +The young nobility, who begin by associating with him, soon leave him, +disgusted with the insupportable profligacy of his society; and Mr. Fox, +who has been supposed his favorite, and not over nice in the choice +of company, would never keep his company habitually. In fact, he never +associated with a man of sense. He has not a single idea of justice, +morality, religion, or of the rights of men, or any anxiety for the +opinion of the world. He carries that indifference for fame so far, that +he would probably not be hurt were he to lose his throne, provided he +could be assured of having always meat, drink, horses, and women. In +the article of women, nevertheless, he is become more correct, since his +connection with Mrs. Fitzherbert, who is an honest and worthy woman: +he is even less crapulous than he was. He had a fine person, but it +is becoming coarse. He possesses good native common sense; is affable, +polite, and very good humored. Saying to my informant on another +occasion, 'your friend, such a one, dined with me yesterday, and I made +him damned drunk;' he replied, 'I am sorry for it; I had heard that your +royal highness had left off drinking;' the Prince laughed, tapped him on +the shoulder very good-naturedly, without saying a word, or ever after +showing any displeasure. The Duke of York, who was for some time +cried up as the prodigy of the family, is as profligate, and of less +understanding. To these particular traits, from a man of sense and +truth, it would be superfluous to add the general terms of praise or +blame, in which he is spoken of by other persons, in whose impartiality +and penetration, I have less confidence. A sample is better than a +description. For the peace of Europe, it is best that the King should +give such gleamings of recovery, as would prevent the regent or his +ministry from thinking themselves firm, and yet, that he should +not recover. This country advances with a steady pace towards the +establishment of a constitution, whereby the people will resume the +great mass of those powers, so fatally lodged in the hands of the King. +During the session of the _Notables_, and after their votes against the +rights of the people, the Parliament of Paris took up the subject, and +passed a vote in opposition to theirs, (which I send you.) This was not +their genuine sentiment: it was a manoeuvre of the young members, who are +truly well disposed, taking advantage of the accidental absence of many +old members, and bringing others over by the clause, which, while it +admits the negative of the States General in legislation, reserves still +to the parliament the right of enregistering, that is to say, another +negative. The _Notables_ persevered in their opinion. The Princes of the +blood (Monsieur and the Duke d'Orleans excepted) presented and published +a memoire, threatening a scission. The parliament were proposing to +approve of that memoire (by way of rescinding their former vote), and +were prevented from it by the threat of a young member, to impeach +(_denoncer_) the memoire and the Princes who signed it. The vote of the +_Notables_, therefore, remaining balanced by that of the parliament, +the voice of the nation becoming loud and general for the rights of the +_Tiers-Etat_, a strong probability that if they were not allowed one +half the representation, they would send up their members with express +instructions to agree to no tax and to no adoption of the public +debts, and the court really wishing to give them a moiety of the +representation, this was decided on ultimately. You are not to suppose +that these dispositions of the court proceed from any love of the +people, or justice towards their rights. Courts love the people always, +as wolves do the sheep. The fact is this. The court wants money. From +the _Tiers-Etat_ they cannot get it, because they are already squeezed +to the last drop. The clergy and the nobles, by their privileges and +their influence, have hitherto screened their property, in a great +degree, from public contribution. That half of the orange, then, remains +yet to be squeezed, and for this operation there is no agent powerful +enough, but the people. They are, therefore, brought forward as the +favorites of the court, and will be supported by them. The moment of +crisis will be the meeting of the States; because their first act will +be, to decide whether they shall vote by persons or by orders. The +clergy will leave nothing unattempted to obtain the latter; for they see +that the spirit of reformation will not confine itself to the political, +but will extend to the ecclesiastical establishment also. With respect +to the nobles, the younger members are generally for the people, and the +middle aged are daily coming over to the same side: so that by the time +the States meet, we may hope there will be a majority of that body, +also, in favor of the people, and consequently for voting by persons, +and not by orders. + +You will perceive, by the report of Mr. Necker (in the gazette of +France), 1. a renewal of the renunciation of the power of imposing a new +tax by the King, and a like renunciation of the power of continuing any +old one; 2. an acknowledgment that the States are to appropriate the +public monies, which will go to the binding the court to a civil list; +3. a consent to the periodical meeting of the States; 4. to consider of +the restrictions of which _lettres de cachet_ are susceptible; 5. the +degree of liberty to be given to the press; 6. a bill of rights; and 7. +there is a passage which looks towards the responsibility of ministers. +Nothing is said of communicating to them a share in the legislation. The +ministry, perhaps, may be unwilling to part with this, but it will be +insisted on in the States. The letters of convocation will not appear +till towards the latter end of the month: neither time nor place are yet +declared, but Versailles is talked of, and we may well presume that some +time in April will be fixed on. In the mean time, Mr. Necker gets money +to keep the machine in motion. Their funds rose slowly, but steadily, +till within these few days, when there was a small check. However, +they stand very well, and will rise. The _caisse d'escompte_ lent the +government twenty-five millions, two days ago. The navy of this country +sustained a heavy loss lately, by the death of the Bailli de Suffrein. +He was appointed Generalissimo of the Atlantic, when war was hourly +expected with England, and is certainly the officer on whom the nation +would have reposed its principal hopes, in such a case. We just now +hear of the death of the Speaker of the House of Commons, before +the nomination of a regent, which adds a new embarrassment to the +re-establishment of government in England. Since writing mine of +November the 29th, yours of the 23rd of September has come to hand. As +the General of the Mathurins was to be employed in the final redemption +of our captives, I thought that their previous support had better be +put into his hands, and conducted by himself in such a way as not to +counterwork his plan of redemption, whenever we can enable him to begin +on it. I gave him full powers as to the amount and manner of subsisting +them. He has undertaken it, informing me, at the same time, that it +will be on a very low scale, to avoid suspicion of its coming from the +public. He spoke of but three sous a day per man, as being sufficient +for their physical necessaries, more than which, he thinks it not +advisable to give. I have no definitive answer yet from our bankers, +whether we may count on the whole million last agreed to be borrowed, +but I have no doubt of it, from other information, though I have not +their formal affirmative. The gazettes of Leyden and France to this +date, accompany this. I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the +most perfect esteem and respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXVIII.--TO JAMES MADISON, January 12, 1789 + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, January 12, 1789. + +Dear Sir, + +My last to you was of the 18th of November; since which, I have received +yours of the 21st of September, and October the 8th, with the pamphlet +on the Mohicon language, for which, receive my thanks. I endeavor to +collect all the vocabularies I can of the American Indians, as of those +of Asia, persuaded, that if they ever had a common parentage, it will +appear in their languages. + +I was pleased to see the vote of Congress, of September the 16th, on the +subject of the Mississippi, as I had before seen, with great uneasiness, +the pursuit of other principles, which I could never reconcile to my +own ideas of probity or wisdom, and from which, and my knowledge of the +character of our western settlers, I saw that the loss of that country +was a necessary consequence. I wish this return to true policy may be in +time to prevent evil. There has been a little foundation for the reports +and fears relative to the Marquis de la Fayette. He has, from the +beginning, taken openly part with those who demand a constitution; and +there was a moment that we apprehended the Bastile: but they ventured on +nothing more, than to take from him a temporary service, on which he +had been ordered; and this, more to save appearances for their own +authority, than any thing else; for at the very time they pretended +that they had put him into disgrace, they were constantly conferring and +communicating with him. Since this, he has stood on safe ground, and is +viewed as among the foremost of the patriots. Every body here is trying +their hand at forming declarations of rights. As something of that kind +is going on with you also, I send you two specimens from hence. The +one is by our friend of whom I have just spoken. You will see that it +contains the essential principles of ours, accommodated as much as +could be, to the actual state of things here. The other is from a very +sensible man, a pure theorist, of the sect called the _Economists_, of +which Turgot was considered as the head. The former is adapted to the +existing abuses, the latter goes to those possible, as well as to those +existing. + +With respect to Doctor Spence, supposed to have been taken by the +Algerines, I think the report extremely improbable. O'Bryan, one of our +captives there, has constantly written to me, and given me information +on every subject he thought interesting. He could not have failed to +know if such a capture had been made, though before his time, nor to +inform me of it. I am under perpetual anxiety for our captives there. +The money, indeed, is not yet ready at Amsterdam; but when it shall +be, there are no orders from the board of treasury to the bankers, to +furnish what may be necessary for the redemption of the captives: and +it is so long since Congress approved the loan, that the orders of the +treasury for the application of the money would have come, if they +had intended to send any. I wrote to them early on the subject, and +pointedly. I mentioned it to Mr. Jay also, merely that he might suggest +it to them. The payments to the foreign officers will await the same +formality. + +I thank you for your attention to the case of Mrs. Burke. We have no +news of Doctor Franklin since July last, when he was very ill. Though +the silence of our letters on that subject is a proof that he is well, +yet there is an anxiety here among his friends. We have lately had three +books published, which are of great merit, in different lines. The +one is in seven volumes, octavo, by an Abbe Barthelemy, wherein he has +collected every subject of Grecian Literature, after a labor of thirty +years. It is called 'Les Voyages d'Anacharsis.' I have taken a copy for +you, because the whole impression was likely to be run off at once. +The second is a work on government, by the Marquis de Condorcet, two +volumes, octavo. I shall secure you a copy. The third are the works of +the King of Prussia, in sixteen volumes, octavo. These were a little +garbled at Berlin, before printed. The government lays its hands on +all which come here, and change some leaves. There is a genuine +edition published at Basle, where even the garblings of Berlin are +re-established. I doubt the possibility of getting a copy, so vigilant +is the government as to this work. I shall obtain you one, if it be +possible. As I write all the public news to Mr. Jay, I will not repeat +it to you. I have just received the Flora Caroliniana of Walter, a very +learned and good work. I am, with very sincere esteem and respect, Dear +Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXIX.--TO JOHN JAY, January 14, 1789 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Sir, + +Paris, January 14, 1789. + +In my letter of the 11th, I have said nothing of the _Arret_ explanatory +of that of September the 28th, on the subject of whale-oils, which +my letter of November the 19th gave you reason to expect. Though this +explanatory _Arret_ has been passed so long ago as the 7th of December, +it has not been possible for me to obtain an authentic copy of it, till +last night. I now enclose that to you, with a copy of a letter to me +from Mr. Necker, on the subject. The reception of our oils in the mean +time, is provided for by an intermediate order. You will observe, that +in the _Arret_ it is said to be passed '_provisoirement,_' and that Mr. +Necker expressly holds up to us in his letter, a repeal, whenever the +national fishery supplies their wants. The _Arret_, however, is not +limited in its duration, and we have several chances against its repeal. +It may be questioned, whether Mr. Necker thinks the fishery worth the +expense. It may be well questioned, whether, either with or without +encouragement, the nation, whose navigation is the least economical of +all in Europe, can ever succeed in the whale-fishery, which calls for +the most rigorous economy. It is hoped that a share in the legislation +will pass immediately into the hands of the States General, so as to +be no longer in the power of the _commis_ of a bureau, or even of his +minister, to smuggle a law through, unquestioned; and we may even hope +that the national demand for this oil will increase faster than both +their and our fisheries together will supply. But in spite of all these +hopes, if the English should find means to cover their oils under our +name, there will be great danger of a repeal. It is essential, then, +that our government take effectual measures to prevent the English from +obtaining genuine sea-papers, that they enable their consuls in the +ports of France (as soon as they shall be named) to detect counterfeit +papers, and that we convince this government that we use our best +endeavors, with good faith, as it is clearly our interest to do; for the +rivalship of the English is the only one we have to fear. It had already +begun to render our oils invendible in the ports of France. You will +observe that Mr. Necker renews the promise of taking off the ten sous +pour livre, at the end of the next year. + +Oczakow is at length taken by assault. The assailants were fourteen +thousand, and the garrison twelve thousand, of whom seven thousand were +cut to pieces before they surrendered. The Russians lost three thousand +men. This is the Russian version, of which it is safe to believe no +part, but that Oczakow is taken. The Speaker of the English House of +Commons, having died suddenly, they have chosen Mr. Grenville, a young +man of twenty-seven years of age. This proves that. Mr. Pitt is firm +with the present parliament. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXX.--TO MADAME NECKER, January 24, 1789 + + +TO MADAME NECKER. + +Paris, January 24, 1789. + +I have received, Madam, with a great deal of sensibility, the letter of +the 22nd instant, with which you were pleased to honor me on the claims +of Monsieur Klein against the United States; and immediately endeavored +to inform myself of their foundation, by an examination of the journals +of Congress. Congress consisting of many persons, can only speak by the +organ of their records. If they have any engagements, they are to +be found there. If not found there, they can never have existed. I +proceeded to this examination, with all the partialities which were +naturally inspired by the interest you are so good as to take in +his behalf, the desire of doing what will be agreeable to you, and a +disposition to obtain for him the justice which might be his due. I have +extracted, literally, from those journals, every thing I find in them +on his subject, and I take the liberty of enclosing you those extracts. +From them, as well as from what I recollect of the ordinary train of +business about the years 1778 and 1779, I presume the following to be +very nearly the history of Monsieur Klein's case. + +Congress were generally desirous of adding to their army during the war. +Among other methods attempted, it was usual for foreigners (multitudes +of whom went to ask command), when they found there was no vacancy, +to propose to raise troops themselves, on condition they should have +commissions to command them. I suppose that Messrs. Klein, Fearer, and +Kleinsmit (named in the resolution of Congress of 1778, and whom, from +their names, I conjecture to be Germans) offered to enlist a body of men +from among the German prisoners taken with General Burgoyne at Saratoga, +on condition that Fearer and Kleinsmit should be captains over them, and +Klein, lieutenant colonel. Three months seem to have been allowed them +for raising their corps. However, at the end of ten months it seems they +had engaged but twenty-four men, and that all of these, except five, had +deserted. Congress, therefore, put an end to the project, June the 21st, +1779, (and not in July, 1780, as Monsieur Klein says) by informing him +they had no further use for his services, and giving him a year's pay +and subsistence to bring him to Europe. He chose to stay there three and +a half longer, as he says, to solicit what was due to him. Nothing could +ever have been due to him, but pay and subsistence for the ten months +he was trying to enlist men, and the donation of a year's pay and +subsistence; and it is not probable he would wait three years and a half +to receive these. I suppose he has staid, in hopes of finding some other +opening for employment. If these articles of pay and subsistence have +not been paid to him, he has the certificates of the paymaster and +commissary to prove it; because it was an invariable rule, when demands +could not be paid, to give the party a certificate, to establish the sum +due to him. If he has not such a certificate, it is a proof he has +been paid. If he has it, he can produce it, and in that case, I will +undertake to represent his claim to our government, and will answer for +their justice. + +It would be easy to correct several inaccuracies in the letter of +Monsieur Klein, such as that Congress engaged to give him a regiment; +that he paid the recruiting money out of his own pocket; that his +soldiers had nothing but bread and water; that Congress had promised +him they would pay his soldiers in specie, &c.; some of which are +impossible, and others very improbable; but these would be details too +lengthy, Madam, for you to be troubled with. Klein's object is to +be received at the hospital of invalids. I presume he is not of the +description of persons entitled to be received there, and that his +American commission and American grievances are the only ground he has, +whereon to raise a claim to reception. He has therefore tried to make +the most of them. Few think there is any immorality in scandalizing +governments or ministers; and M. Klein's distresses render this resource +more innocent in him, than it is in most others. + +Your commands, Madam, to give what information I could, have drawn thus +much from me. I would not wish to weaken the hopes he so justly rests +on your, known goodness and benevolence. On the contrary, the weaker his +claims elsewhere, the stronger they will plead in your bosom to procure +him relief; and whatever may be done for him here, I repeat it, that if +he has any just demand against the United States, and will furnish +me with proofs of it, I will solicit it with zeal, and, I trust, with +effect. To procure him justice will be one gratification, and a great +additional one will be, that he has procured me the occasion of offering +you my portion of the general tribute so justly due, for all the good +you have done, and all you are perpetually endeavoring to do. Accept +then, Madam, I pray you, this homage from one, whose motives are +pure truth and justice, when he assures you of the sincerity of those +sentiments of esteem and respect, with which he has the honor to be, +Madam, your most obedient and most + +humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXXI.--TO JOHN JAY, February 1, 1789 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, February 1, 1789. + +Sir, + +My last letters have been of the 11th, 14th, and 21st of January. The +present conveyance being through the post to Havre, from whence a vessel +is to sail for New York, I avail myself of it, principally to send +you the newspapers. That of Leyden of the 24th, contains a note of the +_Charge des Affaires_ of France, at Warsaw, which is interesting. It +shows a concert between France and Russia; it is a prognostication that +Russia will interfere in the affairs of Poland, and if she does, it is +most probable that the King of Prussia must be drawn into the war. The +revolution which has taken place in Geneva, is a remarkable and late +event. With the loss of only two or three lives, and in the course of +one week, riots, begun at first on account of a rise in the price of +bread, were improved and pointed to a reformation of their +constitution; and their ancient constitution has been almost completely +re-established. Nor do I see any reason to doubt of the permanence +of the re-establishment. The King of England has shown such marks of +returning reason, that the regency bill was postponed in the House +of Lords, on the 19th instant. It seems now probable, there may be no +change of the ministry, perhaps no regent. We may be sure, however, that +the present ministry make the most of those favorable symptoms. There +has been a riot in Brittany, begun on account of the price of bread, but +converted into a quarrel between the _Noblesse_ and _Tiers-Etat_. Some +few lives were lost in it. All is quieted for the present moment. In +Burgundy and Franche Compte, the opposition of the nobles to the views +of government is very warm. Every where else, however, the revolution +is going on quietly and steadily, and the public mind ripening so +fast, that there is great reason to hope a good result from the States +General. Their numbers (about twelve hundred) give room to fear, indeed, +that they may be turbulent. Having never heard of Admiral Paul Jones +since the action, in which he took a part before Oczakow, I began to be +a little uneasy. But I have now received a letter from him, dated at +St. Petersburg, the 31 st of January, where he had just arrived, at the +desire of the Empress. He has hitherto commanded on the Black Sea. He +does not know whether he shall be employed there, or where, the ensuing +campaign. I have no other interesting intelligence, which would not +lead me into details, improper for the present mode of conveyance. After +observing, therefore, that the gazettes of France and Leyden, to the +present date, accompany this, I shall only add assurance of the sincere +esteem and respect, with which I have the honor to be, Dear Sir, your +most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXXII.--TO JOHN JAY, February 4, 1789 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, February 4, 1789. + +Sir, + +Your favor of November the 25th, by Gouverneur Morris, is duly received. +I must beg you to take the trouble of deciphering yourself what follows, +and to communicate it to nobody but the President, at least for the +present. + +We had before understood, through different channels, that the conduct +of the Count de Moustier was politically and morally offensive. It was +delicate for me to speak on the subject to the Count de Montmorin. +The invaluable mediation of our friend, the Marquis de la Fayette, was +therefore resorted to, and the subject explained, though not pressed. +Later intelligence showing the necessity of pressing it, it was +yesterday resumed, and represented through the same medium to the Count +de Montmorin, that recent information proved to us, that his minister's +conduct had rendered him personally odious in America, and might even +influence the dispositions of the two nations; that his recall was +become a matter of mutual concern; that we had understood he was +instructed to remind the new government of their debt to this country, +and that he was in the purpose of doing it in very harsh terms; that +this could not increase their desire of hastening payment, and might +wound their affections: that, therefore, it was much to be desired that +his discretion should not be trusted to, as to the form in which the +demand should be made, but that the letter should be written here, and +he instructed to add nothing but his signature: nor was his private +conduct omitted. The Count de Montmorin was sensibly impressed. He very +readily determined that the letter should be formed here, but said that +the recall was a more difficult business: that as they had no particular +fact to allege against the Count de Moustier, they could not recall him +from that ministry, without giving him another, and there was no vacancy +at present. However, he would hazard his first thoughts on the subject, +saving the right of correcting them by further consideration. They +were these: that there was a loose expression in one of de Moustier's +letters, which might be construed into a petition for leave of absence; +that he would give him permission to return to France; that it had been +before decided, on the request of the Marquis de la Luzerne, that Otto +should go to him to London; that they would send a person to America +as _Charge des Affaires_ in place of Otto, and that if the President +(General Washington) approved of him, he should be afterwards made +minister. He had cast his eye on Colonel Ternant, and desired the +Marquis to consult me, whether he would be agreeable. At first I +hesitated, recollecting to have heard Ternant represented in America, as +an hypochondriac, discontented man, and paused for a moment between him +and Barthelemy, at London, of whom I have heard a great deal of good. +However, I concluded it safer to take one whom we knew and who knew us. +The Marquis was decidedly of this opinion. Ternant will see that his +predecessor is recalled for unconciliatory deportment, and that he +will owe his own promotion to the approbation of the President. +He established a solid reputation in Europe, by his conduct when +Generalissimo of one of the United Provinces, during their late +disturbances; and it is generally thought, that if he had been put at +the head of the principal province, instead of the Rhingrave de Salm, +he would have saved that cause. Upon the whole, I believe you may expect +that the Count de Moustier will have an immediate leave of absence, +which will soon after become a recall in effect. I will try also to have +the consuls admonished as to the line of conduct they should observe. I +shall have the honor of writing you a general letter, within a few days. +I have now that of assuring you of the sentiments of sincere esteem and +respect, with which I am, Dear Sir, your most obedient and most humble +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + + +LETTER CLXXXIII.--TO WILLIAM SHORT, February 9,1789 + + +TO WILLIAM SHORT. + +Paris, February 9,1789. + +Dear Sir, + +I wrote you last on the 22nd of January, on which day I received yours +of December the 31st, and since that, the other of January the 14th. We +have now received news from America down to the middle of December. +They had then had no cold weather. All things relative to our new +constitution were going on well. Federal senators are; New Hampshire, +President Langdon and Bartlett. Massachusetts, Strong and Dalton. +Connecticut, Dr. Johnson and Ellsworth. New Jersey, Patterson and +Ellmer. Pennsylvania, Robert Morris and M'Clay. Delaware, Reed and +Bassett. Virginia, Richard Henry Lee and Grayson. Maryland, Charles +Carroll, of Carrolton, and John Henry. All of these are federalists, +except those of Virginia; so that a majority of federalists are secured +in the Senate, and expected in the House of Representives. General +Washington will be President, and probably Mr. Adams Vice-President. So +that the constitution will be put under way by those who will give it a +fair trial. It does not seem probable that the attempt of New York, +to have another convention to make amendments, will succeed, though +Virginia concurs in it. It is tolerably certain that Congress will +propose amendments to the Assemblies, as even the friends of the +constitution are willing to make amendments; some from a conviction they +are necessary, others, from a spirit of conciliation. The addition of +a bill of rights will, probably, be the most essential change. A vast +majority of anti-federalists have got into the Assembly of Virginia, +so that Mr. Henry is omnipotent there. Mr. Madison was left out as a +senator by eight or nine votes; and Henry has so modeled the districts +for representatives, as to tack Orange to counties where himself has +great influence, that Madison may not be elected into the lower federal +House, which was the place he had wished to serve in, and not the +Senate. Henry pronounced a philippic against Madison in open +Assembly, Madison being then at Philadelphia. Mifflin is President +of Pennsylvania, and Peters, Speaker. Colonel Howard is Governor of +Maryland. Beverly Randolph, Governor of Virginia; (this last is said +by a passenger only, and he seems not very sure.) Colonel Humphreys is +attacked in the papers for his French airs, for bad poetry, bad prose, +vanity, &c. It is said his dress, in so gay a style, gives general +disgust against him. I have received a letter from him. He seems fixed +with General Washington. Mayo's bridge, at Richmond, was completed, and +carried away in a few weeks. While up, it was so profitable that he +had great offers for it. A turnpike is established at Alexandria, and +succeeds. Rhode Island has again refused to call a convention. Spain has +granted to Colonel Morgan, of New Jersey, a vast tract of land on the +western side of the Mississippi, with the monopoly of the navigation +of that river. He is inviting settlers, and they swarm to him. Even the +settlement of Kentucky is likely to be much weakened by emigrations to +Morgan's grant. Warville has returned, charmed with our country. He is +going to carry his wife and children to settle there. Gouverneur +Morris has just arrived here; deputed, as is supposed, to settle Robert +Morris's affairs, which continue still deranged. Doctor Franklin was +well when he left America, which was about the middle of December. + +***** + +I send Mr. Rutledge two letters by this post. Be so good as to present +him my esteem, and to be assured yourself, of the sincere esteem +and attachment with which I am and shall ever be? Dear Sir, your +affectionate friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXXIV.--TO M. DE VILLEDEUIL, February 10, 1789 + + +TO M. DE VILLEDEUIL. + +Paris, February 10, 1789. + +Sir, + +I take the liberty of troubling your Excellency with the following case, +which I understand to be within your department. Mr. Jay, secretary for +Foreign Affairs, to the United States of America, having occasion +to send me despatches of great importance, and by a courier express, +confided them to a Mr. Nesbitt, who offered himself in that character. +He has delivered them safely: but, in the moment of delivering them, +explained to me his situation, which is as follows. He was established +in commerce at L'Orient, during the war. Losses by shipwreck, by +capture, and by the conclusion of the peace at a moment when he did not +expect it, reduced him to bankruptcy, and he returned to America, with +the consent of his creditors, to make the most of his affairs there. +He has been employed in this ever since, and now wishing to see his +creditors, and to consult them on their mutual interests, he availed +himself of Mr. Jay's demand for a courier, to come under the safe +conduct of that character to Paris, where he flattered himself he might +obtain that of your Excellency, for the purpose of seeing his creditors, +settling, and arranging with them. He thinks a twelvemonth will be +necessary for this. Understanding that it is not unusual to grant safe +conducts in such cases, and persuaded it will be for the benefit of +his creditors, I take the liberty of enclosing his memoir to your +Excellency, and of soliciting your favorable attention to it, assured +that it will not be denied him, if it be consistent with the established +usage; and if inadmissible, praying that your Excellency will have the +goodness to give me as early an answer as the other arduous occupations +in which you are engaged, will admit, in order that he may know whether +he may see his creditors, or must return without. I am encouraged to +trouble your Excellency with this application, by the goodness with +which you have been pleased to attend to our interests on former +occasions, and by the desire of availing myself of every occasion of +proffering to you the homage of those sentiments of attachment and +respect, with which I have the honor to be your Excellency's most +obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXXV.--TO MR. CARNES, February 15,1789 + + +TO MR. CARNES. + +Paris, February 15,1789. + +Sir, + +I am now to acknowledge the receipt of your favors of January the 23rd, +and February the 9th and 10th. Your departure for America so soon, +puzzles me as to the finishing the affair of Schweighaeuser and Dobree, +in which I could have reposed myself on you. It remains, that I ask +you to recommend some person who may be perfectly relied on, in that +business. In fact, it is probably the only one I shall have occasion to +trouble them with before my own departure for America, which I expect +to take place in May; and I fix my return to Paris, in December. While +I ask your recommendation of a person to finish Dobree's business with +fidelity, I must ask your secrecy on the subject of that very business, +so as not to name it at all, even to the person you shall recommend. + +With respect to the distressed American who needs one hundred and forty +livres to enable him to return to America, I have no authority to apply +any public monies to that purpose, and the calls of that nature are +so numerous, that I am obliged to refuse myself to them in my private +capacity. As to Captain Newell's case, you are sensible, that being +in the channel of the laws of the land, to ask a special order from +government, would expose us, in reciprocity to like demands from them +in America, to which our laws would never permit us to accede. Speaking +conscientiously, we must say it is wrong in any government to interrupt +the regular course of justice. A minister has no right to intermeddle +in a private suit, but when the laws of the country have been palpably +perverted to the prejudice of his countryman. + +When you shall be so kind as to recommend to me a correspondent in your +port during your absence, I will ask the favor of you also to give me +some idea of the time you expect to return. + +I have the honor, after wishing you pleasant and prosperous voyages, to +assure you of the esteem and attachment, with which I am, Sir, your most +obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXXVI.--TO DR. BANCROFT, March 2, 1789 + + +TO DR. BANCROFT. + +Paris, March 2, 1789 + +Dear Sir, + +I have just received a letter of January the 31st from Admiral Paul +Jones, at Petersburg, which charging me with the execution of some +commissions, and these requiring money, he tells me you will answer my +drafts, to the amount of four or five thousand livres, on his account. +Be so good as to inform me whether you will pay such drafts. + +A Monsieur Foulloy, who has been connected with Deane, lately offered me +for sale two volumes of Deane's letter books and account books, that he +had taken instead of money, which Deane owed him. I have purchased them +on public account. He tells me Deane has still six or eight volumes +more, and being to return soon to London, he will try to get them +also, in order to make us pay high for them. You are sensible of the +impropriety of letting such books get into hands which might make +an unfriendly use of them. You are sensible of the immorality of an +ex-minister's selling his secrets for money and, consequently, that +there can be no immorality in tempting him with money to part with them; +so that they may be restored to that government to whom they properly +belong. Your former acquaintance with Deane may, perhaps, put it in your +power to render our country the service of recovering those books. It +would not do to propose it to him as for Congress. What other way would +best bring it about, you know best. I suppose his distresses and his +crapulous habits will not render him difficult on this head. On the +supposition that there are six or eight volumes, I think you might +venture as far as fifty guineas, and proportionably for fewer. I will +answer your draft to this amount and purpose, or you may retain it out +of any monies you may propose to pay me for admiral Jones. There is no +time to lose in this negotiation, as, should Foulloy arrive there +before it is closed, he will spoil the bargain. If you should be able to +recover these books, I would ask the favor of you to send them to me by +the Diligence, that I may carry them back with me to America. I make no +apology for giving you this trouble. It is for our common country, and +common interest. + +I am, with sincere and great esteem and attachment, Dear Sir, your most +obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXXVII.--TO M. DE MALESHERBES, March 11, 1789 + + +TO M. DE MALESHERBES. + +Sir, + +Paris, March 11, 1789. + +Your zeal to promote the general good of mankind, by an interchange +of useful things, and particularly in the line of agriculture, and the +weight which your rank and station would give to your interposition, +induce me to ask it, for the purpose of obtaining one of the species of +rice which grows in Cochin-China on high lands, and which needs no +other watering than the ordinary rains. The sun and soil of Carolina are +sufficiently powerful to insure the success of this plant, and Monsieur +de Poivre gives such an account of its quality, as might induce the +Carolinians to introduce it instead of the kind they now possess, which, +requiring the whole country to be laid under water during a certain +season of the year, sweeps off numbers of the inhabitants annually, with +pestilential fevers. If you would be so good as to interest yourself +in the procuring for me some seeds of the dry rice of Cochin-China, you +would render the most precious service to my countrymen, on whose behalf +I take the liberty of asking your interposition: very happy, at the same +time, to have found such an occasion of repeating to you the homage of +those sentiments of respect and esteem, with which I have the honor to +be, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXXVIII.--TO JOHN JAY, March 12, 1789 + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Sir, + +Paris, March 12, 1789. + +I had the honor of addressing you, on the 1st instant, through the post. +I write the present, uncertain whether Mr. Nesbitt, the bearer of your +last, will be the bearer of this, or whether it may not have to wait +some other private occasion. They have reestablished their packet-boats +here, indeed; but they are to go from Bordeaux, which, being between +four and five hundred miles from hence, is too far to send a courier +with any letters but on the most extraordinary occasions and without a +courier, they must pass through the post-office. I shall, therefore, not +make use of this mode of conveyance, but prefer sending my letters by +a private hand by the way of London. The uncertainty of finding private +conveyances to London, is the principal objection to this. + +On the receipt of your letter, advising me to purchase the two volumes +of Deane's letters and accounts, I wrote to the person who had them, +and after some offers and refusals, he let me have them for twenty-five +louis, instead of twenty louis asked at first. He told me that Deane +had still six or eight volumes more, and that when he should return to +London he would try to get them, in order to make himself whole for the +money he had lent Deane. As I knew he would endeavor to make us pay dear +for them, and it appeared to be your opinion, and that of the members +you had consulted, that it was an object worthy attention, I wrote +immediately to a friend in London to endeavor to purchase them from +Deane himself, whose distresses and crapulous habits will probably +render him more easy to deal with. I authorized him to go as far as +fifty guineas. I have as yet no answer from him. I enclose you a letter +which I wrote last month to our bankers in Holland. As it will itself +explain the cause of its being written, I shall not repeat its substance +here. In answer to my proposition, to pay bills for the medals and the +redemption of our captives, they quote a resolution of Congress (which, +however, I do not find in the printed journals), appropriating the loans +of 1787 and 1788 to the payment of interest on the Dutch loans till +1790, inclusive, and the residue to salaries and contingencies in +Europe, and they argue, that, according to this, they are not to pay +any thing in Europe till they shall first have enough to pay all the +interest which will become due to the end of the year 1790; and that it +is out of personal regard, that they relax from this so far as to pay +diplomatic salaries. So that here is a clear declaration they will +answer no other demands, till they have in hand money enough for all the +interest to the end of the year 1790. It is but a twelvemonth since +I have had occasion to pay attention to the proceedings of those +gentlemen; but during that time I have observed, that as soon as a sum +of interest is becoming due, they are able to borrow just that, and no +more; or at least only so much more as may pay our salaries, and keep us +quiet. Were they not to borrow for the interest, the failure to pay +that would sink the value of the capital, of which they are considerable +sharers. So far their interests and ours concur. But there, perhaps, +they may separate. I think it possible they may choose to support our +credit to a certain point, and let it go no further, but at their will; +to keep it so poised, as that it may be at their mercy. By this, they +will be sure to keep us in their own hands. They write word to the +treasury, that in order to raise money for the February interest, they +were obliged to agree with the subscribers, that Congress should open no +other loan at Amsterdam this year, till this one be filled up, and that +this shall not be filled but by the present subscribers, and they not +obliged to fill it. This is delivering us, bound hand and foot, to the +subscribers, that is, to themselves. Finding that they would not raise +money for any other purposes, without being pushed, I wrote the letter I +enclose you. They answer, as I have stated, by refusing to pay, alleging +the appropriation of Congress. I have written again to press them +further, and to propose to them the payment of thirty thousand florins +only, for the case of our captives, as I am in hopes this may do. In +the close of my letter to them, you will observe I refer them, as to the +article of foreign officers, to the board of treasury. I had, in truth, +received the printed journals a few days before, but had not yet had +time to read them carefully, and, particularly, had not then noted the +vote of Congress of August the 20th, directing me to attend to that +article. I shall not fail to do what I can in it; but I am afraid they +will consider this also as standing on the same ground with the other +contingent articles. + +This country, being generally engaged in its elections, affords nothing +new and worthy of communication. The hopes of accommodation between +Turkey and the two empires do not gain strength. The war between Russia +and Denmark on the one hand, and Sweden on the other, is likely also to +go on, the mediation of England being rendered of little force by the +accident to its Executive. The progress of this war, and also of the +broils in Poland, may possibly draw the King of Prussia into it during +the ensuing campaign: and it must, before it be finished, take in this +country, and perhaps England. The ill humor on account of the Dutch +revolution continues to rankle here. They have recalled their ambassador +from the Hague, manifestly to show their dissatisfaction with that +court, and some very dry memorials have lately been exchanged on the +subject of the money this country assumed to pay the Emperor for the +Dutch. I send you very full extracts of these, which will show you the +dispositions of the two courts towards each other. Whether, and when +this country will be able to take an active part, will depend on +the issue of their States General. If they fund their public debts +judiciously, and will provide further funds for a war, on the English +plan, 1 believe they will be able to borrow any sums they please. In the +mean time, the situation of England will leave them at leisure to settle +their internal affairs well. That ministry, indeed, pretend their King +is perfectly re-established. No doubt they will make the most of his +amendment, which is real, to a certain degree. But as, under pretence of +this, they have got rid of the daily certificate of the physicians, and +they are possessed of the King's person, the public must judge hereafter +from such facts only as they can catch. There are several at present, +which, put together, induce a presumption that the King is only better, +not well. And should he be well, time will be necessary to give a +confidence, that it is not merely a lucid interval. On the whole, I +think we may conclude that that country will not take a part in the war +this year, which was by no means certain before. + +M. del Pinto, formerly minister of Portugal at London, and the same who +negotiated the treaty with us, being now put at the head of the ministry +of that country, I presume that negotiation may be renewed successfully, +if it be the desire of our government. Perhaps an admission of our flour +into their ports may be obtained now, as M. del Pinto seemed impressed +with our reasoning on that subject, and promised to press it on his +court, though he could not then venture to put it into the treaty. There +is not the same reason to hope any relaxation as to our reception in +Brazil, because he would scarcely let us mention that at all. I think, +myself, it is their interest to take away all temptations to our +cooperation in the emancipation of their colonies; and I know no means +of doing this, but the making it our interest that they should continue +dependant, nor any other way of making this our interest, but by +allowing us a commerce with them. However, this is a mode of reasoning +which their ministry, probably, could not bear to listen to. I send +herewith the gazettes of France and Leyden, and have the honor to be, +Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CLXXXIX.--TO F. HOPKINSON, March 13, 1789 + + +TO F. HOPKINSON. + +Paris, March 13, 1789. + +Dear Sir, + +Since my last, which was of December the 21st, yours of December the +9th and 21st are received. Accept my thanks for the papers and pamphlets +which accompanied them, and mine and my daughters for the book of songs. +I will not tell you how much they have pleased us, nor how well the last +of them merits praise for its pathos, but relate a fact only, which +is, that while my elder daughter was playing it on the harpsichord, I +happened to look towards the fire, and saw the younger one all in +tears. I asked her if she was sick? She said, 'No; but the tune was so +mournful.' + +The Editor of the _Encyclopedie_ has published something as to an +advanced price on his future volumes, which, I understand, alarms the +subscribers. It was in a paper which I do not take, and therefore I have +not yet seen it, nor can I say what it is. I hope that by this time +you have ceased to make wry faces about your vinegar, and that you have +received it safe and good. You say that I have been dished up to you +as an anti-federalist, and ask me if it be just. My opinion was never +worthy enough of notice, to merit citing; but since you ask it, I will +tell it to you. I am not a federalist, because I never submitted the +whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, +in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in any thing else, where +I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last +degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but +with a party, I would not go there at all. Therefore, I protest to you, +I am not of the party of federalists. But I am much farther from that +of the anti-federalists. I approved, from the first moment, of the +great mass of what is in the new constitution; the consolidation of the +government; the organization into executive, legislative, and judiciary; +the subdivision of the legislative; the happy compromise of interests +between the great and little States, by the different manner of voting +in the different Houses; the voting by persons instead of States; the +qualified negative on laws given to the executive, which, however, I +should have liked better if associated with the judiciary also, as in +New York; and the power of taxation. I thought at first that the latter +might have been limited. A little reflection soon convinced me it ought +not to be. What I disapproved from the first moment, also, was the want +of a bill of rights, to guard liberty against the legislative as well as +executive branches of the government; that is to say, to secure freedom +in religion, freedom of the press, freedom from monopolies, freedom from +unlawful imprisonment, freedom from a permanent military, and a trial by +jury, in all cases determinable by the laws of the land. I disapproved, +also, the perpetual re-eligibility of the President. To these points +of disapprobation I adhere. My first wish was, that the nine first +conventions might accept the constitution, as the means of securing to +us the great mass of good it contained, and that the four last might +reject it, as the means of obtaining amendments. But I was corrected in +this wish, the moment I saw the much better plan of Massachusetts, +and which had never occurred to me. With respect to the declaration of +rights, I suppose the majority of the United States are of my opinion: +for I apprehend all the anti-federalists, and a very respectable +proportion of the federalists, think that such a declaration should now +be annexed. The enlightened part of Europe have given us the greatest +credit for inventing this instrument of security for the rights of the +people, and have been not a little surprised to see us so soon give it +up. With respect to the re-eligibility of the President, I find myself +differing from the majority of my countrymen; for I think there are but +three States of the eleven which have desired an alteration of this. +And, indeed, since the thing is established, I would wish it not to be +altered during the life of our great leader, whose executive talents are +superior to those, I believe, of any man in the world, and who, alone, +by the authority of his name, and the confidence reposed in his perfect +integrity, is fully qualified to put the new government so under way, as +to secure it against the efforts of opposition. But having derived from +our error all the good there was in it, I hope we shall correct it, the +moment we can no longer have the same name at the helm. + +These, my dear friend, are my sentiments, by which you will see I was +right in saying, I am neither federalist nor anti-federalist; that I am +of neither party, nor yet a trimmer between parties. These, my opinions, +I wrote, within a few hours after I had read the constitution, to one or +two friends in America. I had not then read one single word printed on +the subject. I never had an opinion in politics or religion, which I was +afraid to own. A costive reserve on these subjects might have procured +me more esteem from some people, but less from myself. My great wish +is, to go on in a strict but silent performance of my duty: to avoid +attracting notice, and to keep my name out of newspapers, because I find +the pain of a little censure, even when it is unfounded, is more acute +than the pleasure of much praise. The attaching circumstance of my +present office, is, that I can do its duties unseen by those for whom +they are done. You did not think, by so short a phrase in your letter, +to have drawn on yourself such an egotistical dissertation. I beg your +pardon for it, and will endeavor to merit that pardon by the constant +sentiments of esteem and attachment, with which I am, Dear Sir, your +sincere friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXC.--TO MADAME DE BREHAN, March 14, 1789 + + +TO MADAME DE BREHAN. + +Paris, March 14, 1789. + +Dear Madam, + +I had the honor of writing to you on the 15th of February; soon after +which, I had that of receiving your favor of December the 29th. I have +a thousand questions to ask you about your journey to the Indian treaty, +how you like their persons, their manners, their costumes, cuisine, &c. +But this I must defer till I can do it personally in New York, where I +hope to see you for a moment in the summer, and to take your commands +for France. I have little to communicate to you from this place. It is +deserted: every body being gone into the country to choose or be chosen +deputies to the States General. I hope to see that great meeting before +my departure. It is to be on the 27th of next month. A great political +revolution will take place in your country, and that without bloodshed. +A King with two hundred thousand men at his orders, is disarmed by the +force of the public opinion and the want of money. Among the economies +becoming necessary, perhaps one may be the opera. They say, it has cost +the public treasury an hundred thousand crowns the last year. A +new theatre is established since your departure; that of the _Opera +Buffone_, where Italian operas are given, and good music. It is in the +_Chateau des Tuileries_. Paris is every day enlarging and beautifying. I +do not count among its beauties, however, the wall with which they +have enclosed us. They have made some amends for this, by making fine +boulevards within and without the walls. These are in considerable +forwardness, and will afford beautiful rides round the city, of between +fifteen and twenty miles in circuit. We have had such a winter, Madam, +as makes me shiver yet, whenever I think of it. All communications, +almost, were cut off. Dinners and suppers were suppressed, and the money +laid out in feeding and warming the poor, whose labors were suspended by +the rigor of the season. Loaded carriages passed the Seine on the ice, +and it was covered with thousands of people from morning till night, +skating and sliding. Such sights were never seen before, and they +continued two months. We have nothing new and excellent in your charming +art of painting. In fact, I do not feel an interest in any pencil but +that of David. But I must not hazard details on a subject wherein I am +so ignorant, and you such a connoisseur. Adieu, my dear Madam; permit +me always the honor of esteeming and being esteemed by you, and of +tendering you the homage of that respectful attachment with which I am, +and shall ever be, Dear Madam, your most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXCI.--TO JAMES MADISON, March 15, 1789 + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, March 15, 1789. + +Dear Sir, + +I wrote you last on the 12th of January; since which I have received +yours of October the 17th, December the 8th and 12th. That of October +the 17th came to hand only February the 23rd. + +How it happened to be four months on the way, I cannot tell, as I never +knew by what hand it came. Looking over my letter of January the 12th, +I remark an error of the word 'probable' instead of' improbable,' which, +doubtless, however, you had been able to correct. + +Your thoughts on the subject of the declaration of rights, in the letter +of October the 17th, I have weighed with great satisfaction. Some of +them had not occurred to me before, but were acknowledged just, in the +moment they were presented to my mind. In the arguments in favor of a +declaration of rights, you omit one which has great weight with me; the +legal check which it puts into the hands of the judiciary. This is a +body, which, if rendered independent and kept strictly to their own +department, merits great confidence for their learning and integrity. In +fact, what degree of confidence would be too much, for a body composed +of such men as Wythe, Blair, and Pendleton? On characters like these, +the '_civium ardor prava jubentium_' would make no impression. I am +happy to find that, on the whole, you are a friend to this amendment. +The declaration of rights is, like all other human blessings, alloyed +with some inconveniences, and not accomplishing fully its object. But +the good, in this instance, vastly overweighs the evil. I cannot refrain +from making short answers to the objections which your letter states to +have been raised. 1. That the rights in question are reserved, by the +manner in which the federal powers are granted. Answer. A constitutive +act, may, certainly, be so formed, as to need no declaration of rights. +The act itself has the force of a declaration, as far as it goes; and if +it goes to all material points, nothing more is wanting. In the draught +of a constitution which I had once a thought of proposing in Virginia, +and printed afterwards, I endeavored to reach all the great objects +of public liberty, and did not mean to add a declaration of rights. +Probably the object was imperfectly executed; but the deficiencies would +have been supplied by others, in the course of discussion. But in a +constitutive act which leaves some precious articles unnoticed, and +raises implications against others, a declaration of rights becomes +necessary, by way of supplement. This is the case of our new federal +constitution. This instrument forms us into one State, as to certain +objects, and gives us a legislative and executive body for these +objects. It should, therefore, guard us against their abuses of power, +within the field submitted to them. 2. A positive declaration of some +essential rights could not be obtained in the requisite latitude. +Answer. Half a loaf is better than no bread. If we cannot secure all our +rights, let us secure what we can. 3. The limited powers of the federal +government, and jealousy of the subordinate governments, afford a +security which exists in no other instance. Answer. The first member +of this seems resolvable into the first objection before stated. The +jealousy of the subordinate governments is a precious reliance. +But observe that those governments are only agents. They must have +principles furnished them, whereon to found their opposition. The +declaration of rights will be the text, whereby they will try all the +acts of the federal government. In this view, it is necessary to +the federal government also; as by the same text, they may try the +opposition of the subordinate governments. 4. Experience proves the +inefficacy of a bill of rights. True. But though it is not absolutely +efficacious under all circumstances, it is of great potency always, and +rarely inefficacious. A brace the more will often keep up the building +which would have fallen, with that brace the less. There is a remarkable +difference between the characters of the inconveniences which attend +a declaration of rights, and those which attend the want of it. The +inconveniences of the declaration are, that it may cramp government in +its useful exertions. But the evil of this is short-lived, moderate, +and reparable. The inconveniences of the want of a declaration are +permanent, afflicting, and irreparable. They are in constant progression +from bad to worse. The executive, in our governments, is not the sole, +it is scarcely the principal object of my jealousy. The tyranny of the +legislatures is the most formidable dread at present, and will be for +many years. That of the executive will come in its turn; but it will +be at a remote period. I know there are some among us, who would now +establish a monarchy. But they are inconsiderable in number and weight +of character. The rising race are all republicans. We were educated in +royalism; no wonder, if some of us retain that idolatry still. Our young +people are educated in republicanism; an apostacy from that to royalism +is unprecedented and impossible. I am much pleased with the prospect +that a declaration of rights will be added; and I hope it will be done +in that way, which will not endanger the whole frame of government, or +any essential part of it. + +I have hitherto avoided public news in my letters to you, because your +situation insured you a communication of my letters to Mr. Jay. This +circumstance being changed, I shall, in future, indulge myself in these +details to you. There had been some slight hopes that an accommodation +might be effected between the Turks and two empires; but these hopes do +not strengthen, and the season is approaching which will put an end to +them, for another campaign at least. The accident to the King of England +has had great influence on the affairs of Europe. His mediation, joined +with that of Prussia, would certainly have kept Denmark quiet, and so +have left the two empires in the hands of the Turks and Swedes. But the +inactivity to which England is reduced, leaves Denmark more free, and +she will probably go on in opposition to Sweden. The King of Prussia, +too, had advanced so far, that he can scarcely retire. This is rendered +the more difficult by the troubles he has excited in Poland. He cannot, +well abandon the party he had brought forward there; so that it is very +possible he may be engaged in the ensuing campaign. France will be quiet +this year, because this year, at least, is necessary for settling her +future constitution. The States will meet the 27th of April: and the +public mind will. I think, by that time, be ripe for a just decision +of the question, whether they shall vote by orders or persons. I think +there is a majority of the Nobles already for the latter. If so, +their affairs cannot but go on well. Besides settling for themselves a +tolerably free constitution, perhaps as free a one as the nation is as +yet prepared to bear, they will fund their public debts. This will give +them such a credit, as will enable them to borrow any money they may +want, and of course, to take the field again, when they think proper. +And I believe they mean to take the field as soon as they can. The pride +of every individual in the nation suffers under the ignominies they have +lately been exposed to, and I think the States General will give money +for a war, to wipe off the reproach. There have arisen new bickerings +between this court and that of the Hague; and the papers which have +passed, show the most bitter acrimony rankling at the heart of this +ministry. They have recalled their ambassador from the Hague, without +appointing a successor. They have given a note to the Diet of Poland, +which shows a disapprobation of their measures. The insanity of the King +of England has been fortunate for them, as it gives them time to put +their house in order. The English papers tell you the King is well; and +even the English ministry say so. They will naturally set the best foot +foremost; and they guard his person so well, that it is difficult for +the public to contradict them. The King is probably better, but not +well, by a great deal. 1. He has been bled, and judicious physicians +say, that in his exhausted state, nothing could have induced a +recurrence to bleeding, but symptoms of relapse. 2. The Prince of Wales +tells the Irish deputation, he will give them a definitive answer in +some days; but if the King had been well, he could have given it at +once. 3. They talk of passing a standing law, for providing a regency in +similar cases. They apprehend then, they are not yet clear of the danger +of wanting a regency. + +4. They have carried the King to church; but it was his private chapel. +If he be well, why do not they show him publicly to the nation, and +raise them from that consternation into which they have been thrown, +by the prospect of being delivered over to the profligate hands of the +Prince of Wales. In short, judging from little facts, which are known in +spite of their teeth, the King is better, but not well. Possibly he +is getting well, but still time will be wanting to satisfy even the +ministry, that it is not merely a lucid interval. Consequently, they +cannot interrupt France this year in the settlement of her affairs, and +after this year it will be too late. + +As you will be in a situation to know when the leave of absence will be +granted me, which I have asked, will you be so good as to communicate +it, by a line, to Mr. Lewis and Mr. Eppes? I hope to see you in the +summer, and that if you are not otherwise engaged, you will encamp with +me at Monticello for a while. + +I am, with great and sincere attachment, Dear Sir, your affectionate +friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER, CXCII.--TO THOMAS PAINE, March 17,1789 + +TO THOMAS PAINE. + +Paris, March 17,1789. + +Dear Sir, + +My last letter to you extended from December the 23rd to January the +11th. A confidential opportunity now arising, I can acknowledge the +receipt of yours of January the 15th, at the date of which you could not +have received mine. + +You knew, long ago, that the meeting of the States is to be at +Versailles, on the 27th of April. This country is entirely occupied +in its elections, which go on quietly and well. The Duke d'Orleans is +elected for Villers Cotterets. The Prince of Conde has lost the election +he aimed at; nor is it certain he can be elected any where. We have +no news from Auvergne, whither the Marquis de la Fayette is gone. In +general, all the men of influence in the country are gone into +the several provinces, to get their friends elected, or be elected +themselves. Since my letter to you, a tumult arose in Bretagne, in which +four or five lives were lost. They are now quieter, and this is the only +instance of a life lost, as yet, in this revolution. The public mind is +now so far ripened by time and discussion, that there seems to be but +one opinion on the principal points. The question of voting by persons +or orders is the most controverted; but even that seems to have gained +already a majority among the Nobles. I fear more from the number of +the Assembly, than from any other cause. Twelve hundred persons are +difficult to keep to order, and will be so, especially, till they shall +have had time to frame rules of order. Their funds continue stationary, +and at the level they have stood at for some years past. We hear +so little of the parliaments for some time past, that one is hardly +sensible of their existence. This unimportance is probably the +forerunner of their total re-modification by the nation. The article +of legislation is the only interesting one on which the court has not +explicitly declared itself to the nation. The Duke d'Orleans has given +instructions to his proxies in the _bailliages_, which would be deemed +bold in England, and are reasonable beyond the reach of an Englishman, +who, slumbering under a kind of half reformation in politics and +religion, is not excited by any thing he sees or feels, to question the +remains of prejudice. The writers of this country, now taking the field +freely, and unrestrained, or rather revolted by prejudice, will rouse us +all from the errors in which we have been hitherto rocked. + +We had, at one time, some hope, that an accommodation would have been +effected between the Turks and two empires. Probably the taking Oczakow, +while it has attached the Empress more to the Crimea, is not important +enough to the Turks, to make them consent to peace. These hopes are +vanishing. Nor does there seem any prospect of peace between Russia +and Sweden. The palsied condition of England leaves it probable, that +Denmark will pursue its hostilities against Sweden. It does not +seem certain whether the King of Prussia has advanced so far in that +mediation, and in the troubles he has excited in Poland, as to be +obliged to become a party. Nor will his becoming a party draw in this +country, the present year, if England remains quiet. Papers which have +lately passed between this court and the government of Holland, prove +that this nourishes its discontent, and only waits to put its house in +order, before it interposes. They have recalled their ambassador from +the Hague, without naming a successor. The King of Sweden, not thinking +that Russia and Denmark are enough for him, has arrested a number of his +Nobles, of principal rank and influence. It is a bold measure, at least, +and he is too boyish a character to authorize us to presume it a wise +one, merely because he has adopted it. His army was before disgusted. He +now puts the Nobles and all their dependants on the same side, and they +are sure of armed support, by Russia on the north, and Denmark on the +south. He can have no salvation but in the King of Prussia. + +I have received two letters from Ledyard, the one dated Alexandria, +August the 15th, the other Grand Cairo, September the 10th; and one +lately from Admiral Paul Jones, dated St. Petersburg, January the 31st. +He was just arrived there, on the call of the Empress, and was uncertain +where he should be employed the next campaign. Mr. Littlepage has +returned from the Black Sea to Warsaw, where he has been perfectly +received by the King. I saw this from under the King's own hand, and was +pleased with the parental expressions towards him. + +We have no news from America later than the middle of January. My +letters inform me, that even the friends of the new constitution have +come over to the expediency of adding a declaration of rights. There +is reason to hope that this will be proposed by Congress to the +several legislatures, and that the plan of New York for calling a new +convention, will be rejected. Hitherto, no State had acceded to it but +Virginia, in which Henry and anti-federalism had got full possession of +their legislature. But the people are better disposed. My departure for +America is likely to be retarded, by the want of a Congress to give me +permission. I must attend it from the new government. I am anxious +to know how much we ought to believe of the recovery of the King of +England. By putting little facts together, I see that he is not well. +Mr. Rumsey (who came in while I was writing the preceding page) tells me +you have a long letter ready for me. I shall be happy to receive it. + +I am, with great and sincere attachment, Dear Sir, your affectionate +friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXIII.--TO COLONEL HUMPHREYS, March 18, 1789 + + +TO COLONEL HUMPHREYS. + +Paris, March 18, 1789. + +Dear Sir, + +Your favor of November the 29th, 1788, came to hand the last month. How +it happened that mine of August, 1787, was fourteen months on its way, +is inconceivable. I do not recollect by what conveyance I sent it. I +had concluded, however, either that it had miscarried, or that you +had become indolent, as most of our countrymen are, in matters of +correspondence. + +The change in this country since you left it, is such as you can form +no idea of. The frivolities of conversation have given way entirely to +politics. Men, women, and children talk nothing else: and all, you know, +talk a great deal. The press groans with daily productions, which, in +point of boldness, make an Englishman stare, who hitherto has thought +himself the boldest of men. A complete revolution in this government, +has, within the space of two years (for it began with the _Notables_ +of 1787), been effected merely by the force of public opinion, aided, +indeed, by the want of money, which the dissipations of the court had +brought on. And this revolution has not cost a single life, unless we +charge to it a little riot lately in Bretagne, which began about the +price of bread, became afterwards political, and ended in the loss of +four or five lives. The assembly of the States General begins the 27th +of April. The representation of the people will be perfect. But they +will be alloyed by an equal number of nobility and clergy. The first +great question they will have to decide, will be, whether they shall +vote by orders or persons. And I have hopes, that the majority of the +Nobles are already disposed to join the _Tiers-Etat_, in deciding +that the vote shall be by persons. This is the opinion _a la mode_ at +present, and mode has acted a wonderful part in the present instance. +All the handsome young women, for example, are for the _Tiers-Etat_ and +this is an army more powerful in France, than the two hundred thousand +men of the King. Add to this, that the court itself is for the +_Tiers-Etat_, as the only agent which can relieve their wants: not by +giving money themselves (they are squeezed to the last drop), but by +pressing it from the non-contributing orders. The King stands engaged +to pretend no more to the power of laying, continuing, or appropriating +taxes; to call the States General periodically; to submit _lettres de +cachet_ to legal restrictions; to consent to freedom of the press; and +that all this shall be fixed by a fundamental constitution, which +shall bind his successors. He has not offered a participation in the +legislature, but it will surely be insisted on. The public mind is +so ripened on all these subjects, that there seems to be now but one +opinion. The clergy, indeed, think separately, and the old men among the +Nobles: but their voice is suppressed by the general one of the +nation. The writings published on this occasion are, some of them, very +valuable; because, unfettered by the prejudices under which the English +labor, they give a full scope to reason, and strike out truths, as +yet unperceived and unacknowledged on the other side the channel. An +Englishman, dozing under a kind of half reformation, is not excited +to think by such gross absurdities as stare a Frenchman in the face, +wherever he looks, whether it be towards the throne or the altar. In +fine, I believe this nation will, in the course of the present year, +have as full a portion of liberty dealt out to them, as the nation can +bear at present, considering how uninformed the mass of their people is. +This circumstance will prevent the immediate establishment of the trial +by jury. The palsied state of the executive in England is a fortunate +circumstance for France, as it will give her time to arrange her +affairs internally. The consolidation and funding their debts, will give +government a credit which will enable them to do what they please. +For the present year the war will be confined to the two empires and +Denmark, against Turkey and Sweden. It is not yet evident, whether +Prussia will be engaged. If the disturbances of Poland break out into +overt acts, it will be a power divided in itself, and so of no weight. +Perhaps by the next year England and France may be ready to take the +field. It will depend on the former principally, for the latter, though +she may be then able, must wish still a little time to see her new +arrangements well under way. The English papers and English ministry +say the King is well. He is better, but not well: no malady requires a +longer time to insure against its return than insanity. Time alone can +distinguish accidental insanity from habitual lunacy. + +The operations which have taken place in America lately fill me with +pleasure. In the first place, they realize the confidence I had, that, +whenever our affairs go obviously wrong, the good sense of the people +will interpose, and set them to rights. The example of changing a +constitution, by assembling the wise men of the State, instead of +assembling armies, will be worth as much to the world as the former +examples we had given them. The constitution, too, which was the result +of our deliberations, is unquestionably the wisest ever yet presented to +men, and some of the accommodations of interest which it has adopted +are greatly pleasing to me, who have before had occasions of seeing how +difficult those interests were to accommodate. A general concurrence of +opinion seems to authorize us to say it has some defects. I am one of +those who think it a defect, that the important rights, not placed in +security by the frame of the constitution itself, were not explicitly +secured by a supplementary declaration. There are rights which it is +useless to surrender to the government, and which governments have +yet always been fond to invade. These are the rights of thinking, +and publishing our thoughts by speaking or writing; the right of free +commerce; the right of personal freedom. There are instruments for +administering the government so peculiarly trust-worthy, that we +should never leave the legislature at liberty to change them. The +new constitution has secured these in the executive and legislative +departments; but not in the judiciary. It should have established trials +by the people themselves, that is to say, by jury. There are instruments +so dangerous to the rights of the nation, and which place them so +totally at the mercy of their governors, that those governors, whether +legislative or executive, should be restrained from keeping such +instruments on foot, but in well defined cases. Such an instrument is a +standing army. We are now allowed to say, such a declaration of rights, +as a supplement to the constitution, where that is silent, is wanting, +to secure us in these points. The general voice has legitimated this +objection. It has not, however, authorized me to consider as a +real defect, what I thought, and still think one, the perpetual +re-eligibility of the President. But three States out of eleven having +declared against this, we must suppose we are wrong, according to the +fundamental law of every society, the _lex majoris partis_, to which we +are bound to submit. And should the majority change their opinion, and +become sensible that this trait in their constitution is wrong, I would +wish it to remain uncorrected, as long as we can avail ourselves of +the services of our great leader, whose talents and whose weight of +character, I consider as peculiarly necessary to get the government +so under way, as that it may afterwards be carried on by subordinate +characters. + +I must give you sincere thanks for the details of small news contained +in your letter. You know how previous that kind of information is to a +person absent from his country, and how difficult it is to be procured. +I hope to receive soon permission to visit America this summer, and to +possess myself anew, by conversation with my countrymen, of their spirit +and their ideas. I know only the Americans of the year 1784. They tell +me this is to be much a stranger to those of 1789. This renewal of +acquaintance is no indifferent matter to one, acting at such a +distance, as that instructions cannot be received hot and hot. One of my +pleasures, too, will be that of talking over the old and new with you. + +In the mean time, and at all times, I have the honor to be, with great +and sincere esteem. Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson, + + + + +LETTER CXCIV.--TO DOCTOR WILLARD, March 24, 1789 + + +TO DOCTOR WILLARD. + +Paris, March 24, 1789. + +Sir, + +I have been lately honored with your letter of September the 24th, 1788, +accompanied by a diploma for a Doctorate of Laws, which the University +of Harvard has been pleased to confer on me. Conscious how little I +merit it, I am the more sensible of their goodness and indulgence to +a stranger, who has had no means ef serving or making himself known to +them. I beg you to return them my grateful thanks, and to assure them +that this notice from so eminent a seat of science is very precious to +me. + +The most remarkable publications we have had in France, for a year +or two past, are the following. _Les Voyages d'Anacharsis, par Abbe +Barthelemi_, seven volumes, octavo. This is a very elegant digest of +whatever is known of the Greeks; useless, indeed, to him who has read +the original authors, but very proper for one who reads modern languages +only. The works of the King of Prussia. The Berlin edition is in sixteen +volumes, octavo. It is said to have been gutted at Berlin; and here +it has been still more mangled. There are one or two other editions +published abroad, which pretend to have rectified the maltreatment both +of Berlin and Paris. Some time will be necessary to settle the public +mind as to the best edition. + +Montignot has given us the original Greek, and a French translation of +the seventh book of Ptolemy's great work, under the title of _Etat des +Etoiles fixes au second siecle_, in quarto. He has given the designation +of the same stars by Flamsteed and Bayer, and their position in the +year 1786. A very remarkable work is the _Mechanique Analytique of La +Grange_, in quarto. He is allowed to be the greatest mathematician now +living, and his personal worth is equal to his science. The object of +his work is to reduce all the principles of mechanics to the single one +of the equilibrium, and to give a simple formula applicable to them +all. The subject is treated in the algebraic method, without diagrams to +assist the conception. My present occupations not permitting me to read +any thing which requires a long and undisturbed attention, I am not able +to give you the character of this work from my own examination. It has +been received with great approbation in Europe. In Italy, the works of +Spallanzani on Digestion and Generation are valuable. Though, perhaps, +too minute, and therefore tedious, he has developed some useful truths, +and his book is well worth attention; it is in four volumes, octavo. +Clavigero, an Italian also, who has resided thirty-six years in Mexico, +has given us a History of that country, which certainly merits more +respect than any other work on the same subject. He corrects many errors +of Dr. Robertson; and though sound philosophy will disapprove many of +his ideas, we must still consider it as an useful work, and assuredly +the best we possess on the same subject. It is in four thin volumes, +small quarto. De la Lande has not yet published a fifth volume. + +The chemical dispute about the conversion and reconversion of air and +water, continues still undecided. Arguments and authorities are so +balanced, that we may still safely believe, as our fathers did before +us, that these principles are distinct. A schism of another kind has +taken place among the chemists. A particular set of them here have +undertaken to remodel all the terms of the science, and to give to every +substance a new name, the composition, and especially the termination of +which, shall define the relation in which it stands to other substances +of the same family. But the science seems too much in its infancy as +yet, for this reformation; because, in fact, the reformation of this +year must be reformed again the next year, and so on, changing the names +of substances as often as new experiments develope properties in them +undiscovered before. The new nomenclature has, accordingly, been already +proved to need numerous and important reformations. Probably it will +not prevail. It is espoused by the minority only here, and by very few, +indeed, of the foreign chemists. It is particularly rejected in England. + +In the arts, I think two of our countrymen have presented the most +important inventions. Mr. Paine, the author of 'Common Sense,' has +invented an iron bridge, which promises to be cheaper by a great deal +than stone, and to admit of a much greater arch. He supposes it may be +ventured for an arch of five hundred feet. He has obtained a patent for +it in England, and is now executing the first experiment with an arch +of between ninety and one hundred feet. Mr. Rumsey has also obtained +a patent for his navigation by the force of steam in England, and is +soliciting a similar one here. His principal merit is in the improvement +of the boiler, and instead of the complicated machinery of oars and +paddles, proposed by others, the substitution of so simple a thing +as the reaction of a stream of water on his vessel. He is building +a sea-vessel at this time in England, and she will be ready for an +experiment in May. He has suggested a great number of mechanical +improvements in a variety of branches, and, upon the whole, is the most +original and the greatest mechanical genius I have ever seen. The return +of La Peyrouse (whenever that shall happen) will probably add to our +knowledge in Geography, Botany, and Natural History. What a field have +we at our doors to signalize ourselves in! The Botany of America is +far from being exhausted, its Mineralogy is untouched, and its Natural +History or Zoology totally mistaken and misrepresented. As far as I have +seen, there is not one single species of terrestrial birds common to +Europe and America, and I question if there be a single species of +quadrupeds. (Domestic animals are to be excepted.) It is for such +institutions as that over which you preside so worthily, Sir, to do +justice to our country, its productions, and its genius. It is the work +to which the young men, whom you are forming, should lay their hands. +We have spent the prime of our lives in procuring them the precious +blessing of liberty. Let them spend theirs in showing that it is the +great parent of science and of virtue; and that a nation will be great +in both, always in proportion as it is free. Nobody wishes more warmly +for the success of your good exhortations on this subject, than he who +has the honor to be, with sentiments of great esteem and respect, Sir, +your most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXCV.--TO J. SARSFIELD, April 3, 1789 + + +TO J. SARSFIELD. + +Paris, April 3, 1789. + +Sir, + +I could not name to you the day of my departure from Paris, because I +do not know it. I have not yet received my _conge_, though I hope to +receive it soon, and to leave this some time in May, so that I may be +back before the winter. + +Impost is a duty paid on any imported article, in the moment of its +importation, and of course, it is collected in the sea-ports only. +Excise is a duty on any article, whether imported or raised at home, +and paid in the hands of the consumer or retailer; consequently, it is +collected through the whole country. These are the true definitions of +these words as used in England, and in the greater part of the United +States. But in Massachusetts, they have perverted the word excise to +mean a tax on all liquors, whether paid in the moment of importation or +at a later moment, and on nothing else. So that in reading the debates +of the Massachusetts convention, you must give this last meaning to the +word excise. + +Rotation is the change of officers required by the laws at certain +epochs, and in a certain order: thus, in Virginia, our justices of the +peace are made sheriffs one after the other, each remaining in office +two years, and then yielding it to his next brother in order of +seniority. This is the just and classical meaning of the word. But in +America we have extended it (for want of a proper word) to all cases of +officers who must be necessarily changed at a fixed epoch, though the +successor be not pointed out in any particular order, but comes in +by free election. By the term rotation in office, then, we mean an +obligation on the holder of that office to go out at a certain period. +In our first Confederation, the principle of rotation was established +in the office of President of Congress, who could serve but one year in +three, and in that of a member of Congress, who could serve but three +years in six. + +I believe all the countries in Europe determine their standard of money, +in gold as well as silver. Thus, the laws of England direct that a pound +Troy of gold, of twenty-two carats fine, shall be cut into forty-four +and a half guineas, each of which shall be worth twenty-one and a +half shillings, that is, into 956 3/4 shillings. This establishes the +shilling at 5.518 grains of pure gold. They direct that a pound of +silver, consisting of 11 1/10 ounces of pure silver, and 9/10 of an +ounce alloy, shall be cut into sixty-two shillings. This establishes +the shilling at 85.93 grains of pure silver, and, consequently, the +proportion of gold to silver as 85.93 to 5.518, or as 15.57 to 1. If +this be the true proportion between the value of gold and silver at the +general market of Europe, then the value of the shilling, depending +on two standards, is the same, whether a payment be made in gold or +in silver. But if the proportion at the general market of Europe be as +fifteen to one, then the Englishman who owes a pound weight of gold +at Amsterdam, if he sends the pound of gold to pay it, sends 1043.72 +shillings; if he sends fifteen pounds of silver, he sends only 1030.5 +shillings; if he pays half in gold and half in silver, he pays only +1037.11 shillings. And this medium between the two standards of gold +and silver, we must consider as furnishing the true medium value of +the shilling. If the parliament should now order the pound of gold (of +one-twelfth alloy as before) to be cut into a thousand shillings instead +of nine hundred and fifty-six and three fourths, leaving the silver as +it is, the medium or true value of the shilling would suffer a change of +half the difference; and in the case before stated, to pay a debt of a +pound weight of gold, at Amsterdam, if he sent the pound weight of gold, +he would send 1090.9 shillings; if he sent fifteen pounds of silver, +he would send 1030.5 shillings; if half in gold and half in silver, +he would send 1060.7 shillings; which shows, that this parliamentary +operation would reduce the value of the shilling in the proportion of +1060.7 to 1037.11. + +Now this is exactly the effect of the late change in the quantity of +gold contained in your louis. Your _marc d'argent fin_ is cut into 53.45 +livres (fifty-three livres and nine sous), the _marc de l'or fin_ +was cut, heretofore, by law, into 784.6 livres (seven hundred and +eighty-four livres and twelve sous); gold was to silver, then, as 14.63 +to 1. And if this was different from the proportion at the markets of +Europe, the true value of your livre stood half way between the two +standards. By the ordinance of October the 30th, 1785, the marc of pure +gold has been cut into 828.6 livres. If your standard had been in gold +alone, this would have reduced the value of the livre, in the proportion +of 828.6 to 784.6. But as you had a standard of silver as well as gold, +the true standard is the medium between the two; consequently, the value +of the livre is reduced only one half the difference, that is, as 806.6 +to 784.6, which is very nearly three per cent. Commerce, however, has +made a difference of four per cent., the average value of the pound +sterling, formerly twenty-four livres, being now twenty-five livres. +Perhaps some other circumstance has occasioned an addition of one per +cent, to the change of your standard. + +I fear I have tired you by these details. I did not mean to be so +lengthy when I began. I beg you to consider them as an appeal to your +judgment, which I value, and from which I will expect a correction, if +they are wrong. + +I have the honor to be, with very great esteem and attachment, Dear Sir, +your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXCVI.--TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE, May 6,1789 + + +TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE. + +Paris, May 6,1789. + +My Dear Friend, + +As it becomes more and more possible that the _Noblesse_ will go +wrong, I become uneasy for you. Your principles are decidedly with the +_Tiers-Etat_, and your instructions against them. A complaisance to the +latter on some occasions, and an adherence to the former on others, may +give an appearance of trimming between the two parties, which may lose +you both. You will, in the end, go over wholly to the _Tiers-Etat_, +because it will be impossible for you to live in a constant sacrifice of +your own sentiments to the prejudices of the _Noblesse_. But you would +be received by the _Tiers-Etat_, at any future day, coldly, and without +confidence. This appears to me the moment to take at once that honest +and manly stand with them, which your own principles dictate. This will +win their hearts for ever, be approved by the world, which marks and +honors you as the man of the people, and will be an eternal consolation +to yourself. The _Noblesse_, and especially the _Noblesse of Auvergne_, +will always prefer men who will do their dirty work for them. You are +not made for that. They will therefore soon drop you, and the people, in +that case, will perhaps not take you up. Suppose a scission should take +place. The Priests and Nobles will secede, the nation will remain in +place, and, with the King, will do its own business. If violence should +be attempted, where will you be? You cannot then take side with the +people in opposition to your own vote, that very vote which will have +helped to produce the scission. Still less can you array yourself +against the people. That is impossible. Your instructions are indeed +a difficulty. But to state this at its worst, it is only a single +difficulty, which a single effort surmounts. Your instructions can never +embarrass you a second time, whereas an acquiescence under them will +re-produce greater difficulties every day, and without end. Besides, a +thousand circumstances offer as many justifications of your departure +from your instructions. Will it be impossible to persuade all parties, +that (as for good legislation two Houses are necessary) the placing +the privileged classes together in one House, and the unprivileged in +another, would be better for both than a scission? I own I think it +would. People can never agree without some sacrifices; and it appears +but a moderate sacrifice in each party, to meet on this middle ground. +The attempt to bring this about might satisfy your instructions, and a +failure in it would justify your siding with the people, even to those +who think instructions are laws of conduct. Forgive me, my dear friend, +if my anxiety for you makes me talk of things I know nothing about. +You must not consider this as advice. I know you and myself too well +to presume to offer advice. Receive it merely as the expression of my +uneasiness, and the effusion of that sincere friendship, with which I +am, my dear Sir, yours affectionately, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CXCVII.--TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL, May 8, 1789 + + +TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL. + +Paris, May 8, 1789. + +Dear Sir, + +Your favor of January the 26th, to March the 27th, is duly received, and +I thank you for the interesting papers it contained. The answer of +Don Ulloa, however, on the subject of the canal through the American +isthmus, was not among them, though mentioned to be so. If you have +omitted it through accident, I shall thank you for it at some future +occasion, as I wish much to understand that subject thoroughly. Our +American information comes down to the 16th of March. There had not yet +been members enough assembled of the new Congress, to open the tickets. +They expected to do it in a day or two. In the mean time, it was said +from all the States, that their vote had been unanimous for General +Washington, and a good majority in favor of Mr. Adams, who is certainly, +therefore, Vice-President. The new government would be supported by very +cordial and very general dispositions in its favor from the people. I +have not yet seen a list of the new Congress. This delay in the meeting +of the new government has delayed the determination on my petition for +leave of absence. However, I expect to receive it every day, and am in +readiness to sail the instant I receive it, so that this is probably +the last letter I shall write you hence, till my return. While there, +I shall avail government of the useful information I have received from +you, and shall not fail to profit of any good occasion which may occur, +to show the difference between your real situation, and what it ought to +be. I consider Paris and Madrid as the two only points, at which Europe +and America should touch closely, and that a connection at these points +should be fostered. + +We have had in this city a very considerable riot, in which about one +hundred people have been probably killed. It was the most unprovoked, +and is therefore, justly, the most unpitied catastrophe of that kind +I ever knew. Nor did the wretches know what they wanted, except to do +mischief. It seems to have had no particular connection with the great +national question now in agitation. The want of bread is very seriously +dreaded through the whole kingdom. Between twenty and thirty ship-loads +of wheat and flour has already arrived from the United States, and there +will be about the same quantity of rice sent from Charleston to this +country directly, of which about half has arrived. I presume that, +between wheat and rice, one hundred ship-loads may be counted on in the +whole from us. Paris consumes about a ship-load a day, (say two hundred +and fifty tons.) The total supply of the West Indies, for this year, +rests with us, and there is almost a famine in Canada and Nova Scotia. +The States General were opened the day before yesterday. Viewing it as +an opera, it was imposing; as a scene of business, the King's speech was +exactly what it should have been, and very well delivered; not a word +of the Chancellor's was heard by any body, so that, as yet, I have never +heard a single guess at what it was about. Mr. Necker's was as good as +such a number of details would permit it to be. The picture of their +resources was consoling, and generally plausible. I could have wished +him to have dwelt more on those great constitutional reformations, which +his _Rapport au Roy_ had prepared us to expect. But they observe, that +these points are proper for the speech of the Chancellor. We are in +hopes, therefore, they were in that speech, which, like the Revelations +of St. John, were no revelations at all. The _Noblesse_, on coming +together, show that they are not as much reformed in their principles +as we had hoped they would be. In fact, there is real danger of their +totally refusing to vote by persons. Some found hopes on the lower +clergy, which constitute four-fifths of the deputies of that order. If +they do not turn the balance in favor of the _Tiers-Etat_, there is +real danger of a scission. But I shall not consider even that event +as rendering things desperate. If the King will do business with the +_Tiers-Etat_, which constitutes the nation, it may be well done without +Priests or Nobles. From the best information I can obtain, the King +of England's madness has terminated in an imbecility, which may very +possibly be of long continuance. He is going with his Queen to Germany. +England chained to rest, the other parts of Europe may recover or retain +tranquillity. + +I have the honor to be, with great and sincere esteem, Dear Sir, your +most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson.. + + + + +LETTER CXCVIII.--TO JOHN JAY, May 9, 1789 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, May 9, 1789. + +Sir, + +Since my letter of March the 1st, by the way of Havre, and those of +March the 12th and 15th, by the way of London, no opportunity of writing +has occurred, till the present to London. + +There are no symptoms of accommodation between the Turks and two +empires, nor between Russia and Sweden. The Emperor was, on the 16th of +the last month, expected to die, certainly; he was, however, a little +better when the last news came away, so that hopes were entertained of +him; but it is agreed that he cannot get the better of his complaints +ultimately, so that his life is not at all counted on. The Danes +profess, as yet, to do no more against Sweden than furnish their +stipulated aid. The agitation of Poland is still violent, though +somewhat moderated by the late change in the demeanor of the King of +Prussia. He is much less thrasonic than he was. This is imputed to the +turn which the English politics may be rationally expected to take. It +is very difficult to get at the true state of the British King j but +from the best information we can get, his madness has gone off, but he +is left in a state of imbecility and melancholy. They are going to carry +him to Hanover, to see whether such a journey may relieve him. The Queen +accompanies him. If England. should, by this accident, be reduced to +inactivity, the southern countries of Europe may escape the present +war. Upon the whole, the prospect for the present year, if no unforeseen +accident happens, is certain peace for the powers not already engaged, +a probability that Denmark will not become a principal, and a mere +possibility that Sweden and Russia may be accommodated. The interior +disputes of Sweden are so exactly detailed in the Leyden gazette, that I +have nothing to add on that subject. + +The revolution of this country has advanced thus far without +encountering any thing which deserves to be called a difficulty. There +have been riots in a few instances, in three or four different places, +in which there may have been a dozen or twenty lives lost. The exact +truth is not be got at. A few days ago, a much more serious riot took +place in this city, in which it became necessary for the troops to +engage in regular action with the mob, and probably about one hundred of +the latter were killed. Accounts vary from twenty to two hundred. They +were the most abandoned banditti of Paris, and never was a riot more +unprovoked and unpitied. They began, under a pretence that a paper +manufacturer had proposed in an assembly, to reduce their wages to +fifteen sous a day. They rifled his house, destroyed every thing in his +magazines and shops, and were only stopped in their career of mischief, +by the carnage above mentioned. Neither this nor any other of the riots, +have had a professed connection with the great national reformation +going on. They are such as have happened every year since I have been +here, and as will continue to be produced by common incidents. The +States General were opened on the 4th instant, by a speech from the +throne, one by the _Garde des Sceaux_, and one from Mr. Necker. I hope +they will be printed in time to send you herewith: lest they should not, +I will observe, that that of Mr, Necker stated the real and ordinary +deficit to be fifty-six millions, and that he showed that this could +be made up without a new tax, by economies and bonifications which he +specified. Several articles of the latter are liable to the objection, +that they are proposed on branches of the revenue, of which the nation +has demanded a suppression. He tripped too lightly over the great +articles of constitutional reformation, these being not as clearly +announced in this discourse as they were in his _Rapport au Roy_, which +I sent you some time ago. On the whole, his discourse has not satisfied +the patriotic party. It is now, for the first time, that their +revolution is likely to receive a serious check, and begins to wear a +fearful appearance. The progress of light and liberality in the order +of the _Noblesse_ has equalled expectation in Paris only, and its +vicinities. The great mass of deputies of that order, which come from +the country, show that the habits of tyranny over the people, are +deeply rooted in them. They will consent, indeed, to equal taxation; but +five-sixths of that chamber are thought to be, decidedly, for voting +by orders; so that, had this great preliminary question rested on this +body, which formed heretofore the sole hope, that hope would have been +completely disappointed. Some aid, however, comes in from a quarter +whence none was expected. It was imagined the ecclesiastical elections +would have been generally in favor of the higher clergy; on the +contrary, the lower clergy have obtained five-sixths of these +deputations. These are the sons of peasants, who have done all the +drudgery of the service, for ten, twenty, and thirty guineas a year, and +whose oppressions and penury, contrasted with the pride and luxury of +the higher clergy, have rendered them perfectly disposed to humble the +latter. They have done it, in many instances, with a boldness they were +thought insusceptible of. Great hopes have been formed, that these would +concur with the _Tiers-Etat_, in voting by persons. In fact, about half +of them seem as yet so disposed; but the bishops are intriguing, and +drawing them over with the address which has ever marked ecclesiastical +intrigue. The deputies of the _Tiers-Etat_ seem, almost to a man, +inflexibly determined against the vote by orders. This is the state of +parties, as well as can be judged from conversation only, during the +fortnight they have been now together. But as no business has been yet +begun, no votes as yet taken, this calculation cannot be considered +as sure. A middle proposition is talked of, to form the two privileged +orders into one chamber. It is thought more possible to bring them +into it, than the _Tiers-Etat_. Another proposition is, to distinguish +questions, referring those of certain descriptions to a vote by persons, +others to a vote by orders. This seems to admit of endless altercation, +and the _Tiers-Etat_ manifest no respect for that, or any other +modification whatever. Were this single question accommodated, I am of +opinion, there would not occur the least difficulty in the great and +essential points of constitutional reformation. But on this preliminary +question the parties are so irreconcilable, that it is impossible to +foresee what issue it will have. The _Tiers-Etat_, as constituting the +nation, may propose to do the business of the nation, either with or +without the minorities in the Houses of Clergy and Nobles, which side +with them. In that case, if the King should agree to it, the majorities +in those two Houses would secede, and might resist the tax-gatherers. +This would bring on a civil war. On the other hand, the privileged +orders, offering to submit to equal taxation, may propose to the King +to continue the government in its former train, resuming to himself +the power of taxation. Here, the tax-gatherers might be resisted by +the people. In fine, it is but too possible, that between parties so +animated, the King may incline the balance as he pleases. Happy that he +is an honest, unambitious man, who desires neither money nor power for +himself; and that his most operative minister, though he has appeared to +trim a little, is still, in the main, a friend to public liberty. + +I mentioned to you in a former letter, the construction which +our bankers at Amsterdam had put on the resolution of Congress, +appropriating the last Dutch loan, by which the money for our captives +would not be furnished till the end of the year 1790. Orders from the +board of treasury have now settled this question. The interest of +the next month is to be first paid, and after that, the money for the +captives and foreign officers is to be furnished, before any other +payment of interest. This insures it when the next February interest +becomes payable. My representations to them, on account of the contracts +I had entered into for making the medals, have produced from them the +money for that object, which is lodged in the hands of Mr. Grand. + +Mr. Necker, in his discourse, proposes among his bonifications of +revenue, the suppression of our two free ports of Bayonne and L'Orient, +which, he says, occasion a loss of six hundred thousand livres annually, +to the crown, by contraband. (The speech being not yet printed, I state +this only as it struck my ear when he delivered it. If I have mistaken +it, I beg you to receive this as my apology, and to consider what +follows, as written on that idea only.) I have never been able to see +that these free ports were worth one copper to us. To Bayonne our trade +never went, and it is leaving L'Orient. Besides, the right of _entrepot_ +is a perfect substitute for the right of free port. The latter is a +little less troublesome only, to the merchants and captains. I should +think, therefore, that a thing so useless to us and prejudicial to them +might be relinquished by us, on the common principles of friendship. +I know the merchants of these ports will make a clamor, because the +franchise covers their contraband with all the world. Has Monsieur +de Moustier said any thing to you on this subject? It has never been +mentioned to me. If not mentioned in either way, it is rather an +indecent proceeding, considering that this right of free port is founded +in treaty. I shall ask of M. de Montmorin, on the first occasion, +whether he has communicated this to you through his minister; and if he +has not, I will endeavor to notice the infraction to him in such manner, +as neither to reclaim nor abandon the right of free port, but leave our +government free to do either. + +The gazettes of France and Leyden, as usual, will accompany this. I am +in hourly expectation of receiving from you my leave of absence, and +keep my affairs so arranged, that I can leave Paris within eight days +after receiving the permission. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble + +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + + +LETTER CXCIX.--TO GENERAL WASHINGTON, May 10, 1780 + + +TO GENERAL WASHINGTON. + +Paris, May 10, 1780, + +Sir, + +I am now to acknowledge, the honor of your two letters of November the +27th and February the 13th, both of which have come to hand since my +last to you of December the 4th and 5th. The details you are so good as +to give me on the subject of the navigation of the waters of the Potomac +and Ohio, are very pleasing to me, as I consider the union of those two +rivers, as among the strongest links of connection between the eastern +and western sides of our confederacy. It will, moreover, add to the +commerce of Virginia, in particular, all the upper parts of the Ohio and +its waters. Another vast object, and of much less difficulty, is to add +also, all the country on the lakes and their waters. This would enlarge +our field immensely, and would certainly be effected by an union of +the upper waters of the Ohio and lake Erie. The Big Beaver and Cayahoga +offer the most direct line, and according to information I received from +General Hand, and which I had the honor of writing you in the year 1783, +the streams in that neighborhood head in lagoons, and the country is +flat. With respect to the doubts which you say are entertained by +some, whether the upper waters of Potomac can be rendered capable of +navigation, on account of the falls and rugged banks, they are answered, +by observing, that it is reduced to a maxim, that whenever there is +water enough to float a batteau, there may be navigation for a batteau. +Canals and locks may be necessary, and they are expensive; but I +hardly know what expense would be too great for the object in question. +Probably, negotiation with the Indians, perhaps even settlement, must +precede the execution of the Cayahoga canal. The States of Maryland +and Virginia should make a common object of it. The navigation, again, +between Elizabeth River and the Sound is of vast importance, and in +my opinion, it is much better that these should be done at public than +private expense. + +Though we have not heard of the actual opening of the new Congress, +and consequently, have not official information of your election as +President of the United States, yet, as there never could be a doubt +entertained of it, permit me to express here my felicitations, not +to yourself, but to my country. Nobody who has tried both public and +private life, can doubt but that you were much happier on the banks of +the Potomac than you will be at New York. But there was nobody so well +qualified as yourself, to put our new machine into a regular course of +action; nobody, the authority of whose name could have so effectually +crushed opposition at home, and produced respect abroad. I am sensible +of the immensity of the sacrifice on your part. Your measure of fame was +full to the brim; and therefore, you have nothing to gain. But there are +cases wherein it is a duty to risk all against nothing, and I believe +this was exactly the case. We may presume, too, according to every rule +of probability, that after doing a great deal of good, you will be found +to have lost nothing but private repose. + +In a letter to Mr. Jay, of the 19th of November, I asked a leave of +absence to carry my children back to their own country, and to settle +various matters of a private nature, which were left unsettled, because +I had no idea of being absent so long. I expected that letter would have +been received in time to be decided on by the government then existing. +I know now that it would arrive when there was no Congress, and +consequently, that if must have awaited your arrival at New York. I hope +you found the request not an unreasonable one. I am excessively anxious +to receive the permission without delay, that I may be able to get back +before the winter sets in. Nothing can be so dreadful to me, as to be +shivering at sea for two or three months, in a winter passage. Besides, +there has never been a moment at which the presence of a minister here +could be so well dispensed with, from certainty of no war this summer, +and that the government will be so totally absorbed in domestic +arrangements, as to attend to nothing exterior. Mr. Jay will, of course, +communicate to you some ciphered letters lately written, and one of +this date. My public letter to him contains all the interesting public +details. I enclose with the present, some extracts of a letter from Mr. +Paine, which he desired me to communicate: your knowledge of the writer +will justify my giving you the trouble of these communications, which +their interesting nature and his respectability will jointly recommend +to notice. I am in great pain for the Marquis de la Fayette. His +principles, you know, are clearly with the people; but having been +elected for the _Noblesse_ of Auvergne, they have laid him under express +instructions to vote for the decision by orders and not persons. This +would ruin him with the _Tiers-Etat_, and it is not possible he could +continue long to give satisfaction to the _Noblesse_. I have not +hesitated to press on him to burn his instructions, and follow his +conscience as the only sure clue, which will eternally guide a man clear +of all doubts and inconsistencies. If he cannot effect a conciliatory +plan, he will surely take his stand manfully at once with the +_Tiers-Etat_. He will in that case be what he pleases with them, and +I am in hopes that base is now too solid to render it dangerous to be +mounted on it. In hopes of being able, in the course of the summer, to +pay my respects to you personally in New York, I have the honor to be, +with sentiments of the most perfect respect and attachment, Sir, your +most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + [Extract of the letter from Thomas Paine, referred to in the + preceding, to General Washington.] + +'London, March the 12th, 1789. I do not think it is worth while for +Congress to appoint any minister at this court. The greater distance +Congress observes on this point, the better. It will be all money thrown +away to go to any expense about it, at least during the present reign. I +know the nation well, and the line of acquaintance I am in enables me +to judge better on this matter than any other American can judge, +especially at a distance. I believe I am not so much in the good +graces of the Marquis of Lansdowne as I used to be. I do not answer his +purpose. He was always talking of a sort of re-connection of England +and America, and my coldness and reserve on this subject checked +communication. I believe he would be a good minister for England, with +respect to a better agreement with France.' + +(Same letter continued) 'April 10. The acts for regulating the trade +with America are to be continued as last year. A paper from the Privy +Council respecting the American fly is before parliament. I had some +conversation with Sir Joseph Banks upon this subject, as he was the +person whom the Privy Council referred to. I told him that the Hessian +fly attacked only the green plant, and did not exist in the dry grain. +He said, that with respect to the Hessian fly they had no apprehension, +but it was the weevil they alluded to. I told him the weevil had always, +more or less, been in the wheat countries of America, and that if the +prohibition was on that account, it was as necessary fifty or sixty +years ago as now; that I believed it was only a political manoeuvre of +the ministry to please the landed interest, as a balance for prohibiting +the exportation of wool, to please the manufacturing interest. He did +not reply, and as we are on very sociable terms, I went farther, by +saying, the English ought not to complain of the non-payment of debts +from America, while they prohibit the means of payment. I suggest to you +a thought on this subject. + +The debts due before the war ought to be distinguished from the debts +contracted since, and all and every mode of payment and remittance under +which they might have been discharged at the time they were contracted, +ought to accompany those debts so long as any of them shall continue +unpaid, because the circumstances of payment became united with the +debt, and cannot be separated by subsequent acts of one side only. If +this was taken up in America, and insisted on as a right coeval +with, and inseparable from those debts, it would force some of the +restrictions here to give way. While writing this, I am informed that +the minister has had a conference with some of the American creditors, +and proposed to them to assume the debts, and give them ten shillings +in the pound. The conjecture is, that he means, when the new Congress +is established, to demand the payment. If you are writing to General +Washington, it may not be amiss to mention this, and if I hear further +on this matter, I will inform you. But as, being a money matter, it +cannot come forward but through parliament; there will be notice given +of the business. This would be a proper time to show that the British +acts since the peace militate against the payment, by narrowing +the means by which those debts might have been paid when they were +contracted, and which ought to be considered as constituent parts of the +contract.' + + + + +LETTER CC.--TO JAMES MADISON, May 11,1789 + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, May 11,1789. + +Dear Sir, + +My last to you was of the 15th of March. I am now in hourly expectation +of receiving my leave of absence. The delay of it a little longer will +endanger the throwing my return into the winter, the very idea of which +is horror itself to me. I am in hopes this is the last letter I shall +have the pleasure of writing you before my departure. + +The madness of the King of England has gone off, but left him in a state +of imbecility and melancholy. They talk of carrying him to Hanover. If +they do, it will be a proof he does not mend, and that they take that +measure, to authorize them to establish a regency. But if he grows +better, they will perhaps keep him at home, to avoid the question, Who +shall be regent? As that country cannot be relied on in the present +state of its executive, the King of Prussia has become more moderate; he +throws cold water on the fermentation he had excited in Poland. The King +of Sweden will act as nobody, not even himself, can foresee; because he +acts from the caprice of the moment, and because the discontents of +his army and nobles may throw him under internal difficulties, while +struggling with external ones. Denmark will probably only furnish +its stipulated aid to Russia. France is fully occupied with internal +arrangements. So that, on the whole, the prospect of this summer is, +that the war will continue between the powers actually engaged in the +close of the last campaign, and extend to no others; certainly it will +not extend, this year, to the southern States of Europe. The revolution +of France has gone on with the most unexampled success, hitherto. There +have been some mobs, occasioned by the want of bread, in different parts +of the kingdom, in which there may have been some lives lost; perhaps a +dozen or twenty. These had no professed connection, generally, with the +constitutional revolution. A more serious riot happened lately in Paris, +in which about one hundred of the mob were killed. This execution has +been universally approved, as they seemed to have no view but mischief +and plunder. But the meeting of the States General presents serious +difficulties, which it had been hoped the progress of reason would have +enabled them to get over. The nobility of and about Paris have come +over, as was expected, to the side of the people, in the great question +of voting by persons or orders. This had induced a presumption, that +those of the country were making the same progress, and these form the +great mass of the deputies of that order. But they are found to be where +they were centuries ago, as to their disposition to keep distinct from +the people, and even to tyrannize over them. They agree, indeed, to +abandon their pecuniary privileges. The clergy seem at present much +divided. Five-sixths of that representation consists of the lower +clergy, who, being the sons of the peasantry, are very well with the +_Tiers-Etat_. But the Bishops are intriguing, and drawing them over +daily. The _Tiers-Etat_ is so firm to vote by persons or to go home, +that it is impossible to conjecture what will be the result. This is the +state of parties, as well as we can conjecture from the conversation of +the members; for as yet no vote has been given, which will enable us to +calculate on certain ground. + +Having formerly written to you on the subject of our finances, I enclose +you now an abstract of a paper on that subject, which Gouverneur Morris +communicated to me. You will be a better judge of its merit than I am. +It seems to me worthy good attention. + +I have a box of books packed for you, which I shall carry to Havre, +and send by any ship bound to New York or Philadelphia. I have been so +inexact, as to take no list of them before nailing up the box. Be so +good as to do this, and I will take with me my bookseller's account, +which will enable us to make a statement of them. They are chiefly +_Encyclopedies_, from the 23rd to the 30th _livraison_. Paul Jones has +desired me to send to yourself and Colonel Carrington each, his bust. +They are packed together in the same box. There are three other boxes, +with two in each, for other gentlemen. I shall send them all together, +and take the liberty of addressing them to you. I rejoice extremely to +hear you are elected, in spite of all cabals. I fear your post will not +permit me to see you but in New York, and consequently for a short time +only. I shall much regret this. + +I am, with sentiments of sincere attachment and respect, Dear Sir, your +friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCI.--TO MONSIEUR DE PONTIERE, May 17, 1789 + + +TO MONSIEUR DE PONTIERE. + +Paris, May 17, 1789. + +Sir, + +I am honored with your letter of the 6th instant, and am sincerely sorry +that you should experience inconveniences for the want of the arrearages +due to you from the United States. I have never ceased to take every +measure, which could promise to procure to the foreign officers the +payment of these arrears. At present the matter stands thus. Congress +have agreed to borrow a sum of money in Holland, to enable them to pay +the individual demands in Europe. They have given orders that these +arrearages shall be paid out of this money, when borrowed, and certain +bankers in Amsterdam are charged to borrow the money. I am myself of +opinion, they will certainly procure the money in the course of the +present year; but it is not for me to affirm this, nor to make any +engagement. The moment the money is ready, it shall be made known +to Colonel Gourion, who, at the desire of many of the officers, has +undertaken to communicate with me on the subject, and to inform them, +from time to time, of the progress of this business. He will readily +answer your letters on this subject. I depart in a few days for America, +but shall leave such instructions here, as that this matter will suffer +no delay on that account. + +I have the honor to be. Sir, your most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCII.--TO MR. VAUGHAN, May 17, 1789 + + +TO MR. VAUGHAN. + +Paris, May 17, 1789. + +Dear Sir, + +I am to acknowledge, all together, the receipt of your favors of March +the 17th, 26th, and May the 7th, and to return you abundant thanks for +your attention to the article of dry rice, and the parcel of seeds you +sent me. This is interesting, because, even should it not take place +of the wet rice, in South Carolina, it will enable us to cultivate this +grain in Virginia, where we have not lands disposed for the wet rice. +The collection of the works of Monsieur de Poivre has not, as I believe, +been ever published. It could hardly have escaped my knowledge, if they +had been ever announced. The French translation of the book on trade has +not yet come to my hands. Whenever I receive the copies, they shall be +distributed, and principally among the members of the _Etats Generaux_. +I doubt whether, at this session, they will take up the subject of +commerce. Whenever they do, they will find better principles no where +than in that book. I spoke with Mr. Stewart yesterday on the subject of +the distribution, and if I should be gone before the books come to +hand, he will execute the commission. Your nation is very far from the +liberality that treatise inculcates. The proposed regulation on the +subject of our wheat is one proof. The prohibition of it in England +would, of itself, be of no great moment, because I do not know that +it is much sent there. But it is the publishing a libel on our wheat, +sanctioned with the name of parliament, and which can have no object but +to do us injury, by spreading a groundless alarm in those countries of +Europe where our wheat is constantly and kindly received. It is a mere +assassination. If the insect they pretend to fear, be the Hessian fly, +it never existed in the grain. If it be the weevil, our grain always +had that; and the experience of a century has proved, that either the +climate of England is not warm enough to hatch the egg and continue the +race, or that some other unknown cause prevents any evil from it. How +different from this spirit, my dear Sir, has been your readiness to help +us to the dry rice, to communicate to us the bread tree, &tc. Will any +of our climates admit the cultivation of the latter? I am too little +acquainted with it to judge. I learn that your newspapers speak of the +death of Ledyard, at Grand Cairo. I am anxious to know whether there be +foundation for this. I have not yet had time to try the execution of +the wood hygrometer proposed by Dr. Franklin. Though I have most of the +articles ready made, I doubt now whether I shall be able to do it before +my departure for America, the permission for which I expect every hour; +and I shall go off the instant I receive it. While there, I shall have +the pleasure of seeing your father and friends. I expect to return in +the fall. + +In the mean time, I have the honor to be, with very great esteem and +respect, Dear Sir, your most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCIII.--TO THOMAS PAINE, May 19,1789 + +TO THOMAS PAINE. + +Paris, May 19,1789. + +Dear Sir, + +Your favors of February the 16th to April the 13th, and of May the 3rd +and 10th, are received; and the two last are sent to Mr. Leroy, who will +communicate them to the Academy. + +You know that the States General have met, and probably have seen +the speeches at the opening of them. The three orders sit in distinct +chambers. The great question, whether they shall vote by orders or +persons can never be surmounted amicably. It has not yet been proposed +in form; but the votes which have been taken on the outworks of that +question show, that the _Tiers-Etat_ are unanimous, a good majority +of the Clergy (consisting of the _Cures_) disposed to side with the +_Tiers-Etat_, and in the chamber of the _Noblesse_ there are only +fifty-four in that sentiment, against one hundred and ninety, who are +for voting by orders. Committees to find means of conciliation are +appointed by each chamber; but conciliation is impossible. Some think +the Nobles could be induced to unite themselves with the higher Clergy +into one House, the lower Clergy and _Tiers-Etat_ forming another. But +the _Tiers-Etat_ are immovable. They are not only firm, but a little +disdainful. The question is, what will ensue? One idea is to separate, +in order to consult again their constituents, and to take new +instructions. This would be doing nothing, for the same instructions +would be repeated; and what, in the mean time, is to become of a +government absolutely without money, and which cannot be kept in motion +with less than a million of livres a day? The more probable expectation +is as follows. As soon as it shall become evident, that no amicable +determination of the manner of voting can take place, the _Tiers-Etat_ +will send an invitation to the two other orders, to come and take their +places in the common chamber. A majority of the Clergy will go, and the +minority of the Noblesse. The chamber thus composed, will declare that +the States General are constituted, will notify it to the King, and +that they are ready to proceed to business. If the King refuses to do +business with them, and adheres to the Nobles, the common chamber will +declare all taxes at an end, will form a declaration of rights, and +do such other acts as the circumstances will permit, and go home. The +tax-gatherers will then be resisted, and it may well be doubted whether +the soldiery and their officers will not divide, as the _Tiers-Etat_ and +Nobles. But it is more likely that the King will agree to do business +with the States General, so constituted, professing that the necessities +of the moment force this, and that he means to negotiate (as they go +along) a reconciliation between the seceding members, and those which +remain. If the matter takes this turn, there may be small troubles and +ebullitions excited by the seceding _Noblesse_ and higher Clergy; but no +serious difficulty can arise. M. de Lamoignon, the _Garde des Sceaux_ of +the last year, has shot himself. The Emperor's complaint is pulmonary, +and incurable. The Grand Seignior is dead; his successor, young and +warlike. I congratulate you sincerely on the success of your bridge. +I was sure of it before from theory: yet one likes to be assured from +practice also. I am anxious to see how Mr. Rumsey's experiment succeeds. + +May the 21st. I have this moment received a letter from Ledyard, dated +Cairo, November the 15th. He therein says, 'I am doing up my baggage, +and most curious baggage it is, and I leave Cairo in two or three days. +I travel from hence southwest, about three hundred leagues, to a +black King: there my present conductors leave me to my fate. Beyond, I +suppose, I go alone. I expect to hit the continent across, between +the parallels of twelve and twenty degrees north latitude. I shall, +if possible, write you from the kingdom of this black gentleman.' This +seems to contradict the story of his having died at Cairo, in January, +as he was then, probably, in the interior parts of Africa. If Sir Joseph +Banks has no news from him later than the letter of September, it may +do him pleasure, if you will communicate the above. If he or any other +person knows whether there is any foundation for the story of his +death, I will thank you to inform me of it. My letter being to go off +to-morrow, I shall only add assurances of the esteem and respect, with +which I am, Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCIV.--TO MONSIEUR DE ST. ETIENNE, June 3, 1789 + + +TO MONSIEUR DE ST. ETIENNE. + +Paris, June 3, 1789. + +Sir, + +After you quitted us yesterday evening, we continued our conversation +(Monsieur de la Fayette, Mr. Short, and myself) on the subject of the +difficulties which environ you. The desirable object being to secure +the good which the King has offered, and to avoid the ill which seems to +threaten, an idea was suggested, which appearing to make an impression +on Monsieur de la Fayette, I was encouraged to pursue it on my return +to Paris, to put it into form, and now to send it to you and him. It is +this; that the King, in a _seance royale_, should come forward with +a Charter of Rights in his hand, to be signed by himself and by every +member of the three orders. This charter to contain the five great +points which the _Resultat_ of December offered on the part of the King; +the abolition of pecuniary privileges offered by the privileged orders, +and the adoption of the national debt, and a grant of the sum of money +asked from the nation. This last will be a cheap price for the preceding +articles; and let the same act declare your immediate separation till +the next anniversary meeting. You will carry back to your constituents +more good than ever was effected before without violence, and you will +stop exactly at the point where violence would otherwise begin. Time +will be gained, the public mind will continue to ripen and to be +informed, a basis of support may be prepared with the people themselves, +and expedients occur for gaining still something further at your next +meeting, and for stopping again at the point of force. I have ventured +to send yourself and Monsieur de la Fayette a sketch of my ideas of +what this act might contain, without endangering any dispute. But it is +offered merely as a canvass for you to work on, if it be fit to work on +at all. I know too little of the subject, and you know too much of it, +to justify me in offering any thing but a hint. I have done it, too, in +a hurry: insomuch, that since committing it to writing, it occurs to +me that the fifth article may give alarm; that it is in a good degree +included in the fourth, and is, therefore, useless. But after all, +what excuse can I make, Sir, for this presumption. I have none but an +unmeasurable love for your nation, and a painful anxiety lest despotism, +after an unaccepted offer to bind its own hands, should seize you again +with tenfold fury. Permit me to add to these, very sincere assurances of +the sentiments of esteem and respect, with which I have the honor to be, +Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + [The annexed is the Charter accompanying the preceding letter.] + + + +A Charter of Rights, solemnly established by the King and Nation. + +1. The States General shall assemble, uncalled, on the first day of +November, annually, and shall remain together so long as they shall +see cause. They shall regulate their own elections and proceedings, and +until they shall ordain otherwise, their elections shall be in the forms +observed in the present year, and shall be triennial. + +2. The States General alone shall levy money on the nation, and shall +appropriate it. + +3. Laws shall be made by the States General only, with the consent of +the King. + +4. No person shall be restrained of his liberty, but by regular process +from a court of justice, authorized by a general law. (Except that a +Noble may be imprisoned by order of a court of justice, on the prayer +of twelve of his nearest relations.) On complaint of an unlawful +imprisonment, to any judge whatever, he shall have the prisoner +immediately brought before him, and shall discharge him, if his +imprisonment be unlawful. The officer, in whose custody the prisoner is, +shall obey the orders of the judge; and both judge and officer shall be +responsible, civilly and criminally, for a failure of duty herein. + +5. The military shall be subordinate to the civil authority. + +7. Printers shall be liable to legal prosecution for printing and +publishing false facts, injurious to the party prosecuting; but they +shall be under no other restraint. + +7. All pecuniary privileges and exemptions, enjoyed by any description +of persons, are abolished. + +8. All debts already contracted by the King, are hereby made the debts +of the nation; and the faith thereof is pledged for their payment in due +time. + +9. Eighty millions of livres are now granted to the King, to be raised +by loan, and reimbursed by the nation: and the taxes heretofore paid, +shall continue to be paid to the end of the present year, and no longer. + +10. The States General shall now separate, and meet again on the 1st day +of November next. + +Done, on behalf of the whole nation, by the King and their +representatives in the States General, at Versailles, this ------ day of +June, 1789. + +Signed by the King, and by every member individually, and in his +presence. + + + + +LETTER CCV.--TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE, June 12, 1789 + + +TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE. + +Paris, June 12, 1789. + +My Dear Sir, + +As I may not be able to get at you at Versailles, I write this to +deliver it myself at your door. With respect to the utility or inutility +of your minority's joining the Commons, I am unable to form an opinion +for myself. I know too little of the subject to see what may be its +consequences. + +I never knew an instance of the English parliament's undertaking to +relieve the poor by a distribution of bread in time of scarcity. In +fact, the English commerce is so extensive and so active, that though +bread may be a little more or less plenty, there can never be an +absolute failure. The island is so narrow, that corn can be readily +carried from the sea-ports to its interior parts. But were an absolute +want to happen, and were the parliament to undertake a distribution of +corn, I think, that according to the principles of their government, +they would only vote a sum of money, and address the King to employ +it for the best. The business is, in its nature, executive, and would +require too great a variety of detail to be managed by an act of +parliament. However, I repeat it, that I never heard or read of an +instance of the parliament's interfering to give bread. If I see you at +Versailles to-day, I can be more particular. + +I am with great sincerity, my dear Sir, your affectionate friend and +servant, + +Th: Jefferson, + + + + +LETTER CCVI.--TO JOHN JAY, June 17, 1789 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Sir + +Paris, June 17, 1789. + +I had the honor of addressing you on the 9th and 12th of May, by the +way of London. This goes through the same channel to the care of Mr. +Trumbull. Having received no letter from you of later date than the 25th +of November, I am apprehensive that there may have been miscarriages, +and the more so, as I learn, through another channel, that you have +particularly answered mine of November the 19th. + +The death of the Grand Seignior, which has happened, renders the +continuance of the war more probable, as it has brought to the throne +a successor of a more active and ardent temper, and who means to put +himself at the head of his armies. He has declared the Captain Pacha +his Generalissimo. The prospects for Russia, on the other hand, are +less encouraging. Her principal ally, the Emperor, is at death's door, +blazing up a little indeed, from time to time like an expiring taper, +but certainly to extinguish soon. Denmark, too, is likely to be +restrained by the threats of England and Prussia, from contributing even +her stipulated naval succors. It is some time since I have been able +to obtain any account of the King of England, on which I can rely with +confidence. His melancholy continues, and to such a degree, as to render +him absolutely indifferent to every thing that passes, so that he seems +willing to let his ministers do every thing they please, provided they +will let him alone. When forced to speak, his comprehension seems better +than it was in the first moments after his phrensy went off. His health +is bad: he does not go into public at all, and very few are admitted +to see him. This is his present state, according to the best accounts I +have been able to get lately. His ministers dictate boldly in the north, +because they know it is impossible they should be engaged in the war, +while this country is so completely palsied. + +You will have seen by my former letters, that the question, whether the +States General should vote by persons or by orders, had stopped their +proceedings in the very first instance in which it could occur, that +is, as to the verification of their powers, and that they had appointed +committees to try if there were any means of accommodation. These could +do nothing. The King then proposed that they should appoint others, to +meet persons whom he should name, on the same subject. These conferences +also proved ineffectual. He then proposed a specific mode of verifying. +The clergy accepted it unconditionally; the _Noblesse_, with such +conditions and modifications, as did away their acceptance altogether. +The Commons, considering this as a refusal, came to the resolution of +the 10th instant (which I have the honor to send you), inviting the +two other orders to come and take their places in the common room, and +notifying that they should proceed to the verification of powers, and to +the affairs of the nation, either with or without them. The Clergy +have, as yet, given no answer. A few of their members have accepted the +invitation of the Commons, and have presented themselves in their room, +to have their powers verified; but how many it will detach, in the +whole, from that body, cannot be known till an answer be decided on. The +_Noblesse_ adhered to their former resolutions, and even the minority, +well disposed to the Commons, thought they could do more good in their +own chamber, by endeavoring to increase their numbers and fettering the +measures of the majority, than by joining the Commons. An intrigue was +set on foot, between the leaders of the majority in that House, the +Queen, and Princes. They persuaded the King to go for some time to +Marly: he went. On the same day, the leaders moved in the chamber of +Nobles, that they should address the King, to declare his own sentiments +on the great question between the orders. It was intended that this +address should be delivered to him at Marly, where, separated from +his ministers, and surrounded by the Queen and Princes, he might be +surprised into a declaration for the Nobles. The motion was lost, +however, by a very great majority, that chamber being not yet quite +ripe for throwing themselves into the arms of despotism. Necker and +Montmorin, who had discovered this intrigue, had warned some of the +minority to defeat it, or they could not answer for what would happen. +These two and St. Priest, are the only members of the Council in +favor of the Commons. Luzerne, Puy-Segur, and the others, are high +aristocrats. The Commons having verified their powers, a motion was +made the day before yesterday, to declare themselves constituted, and to +proceed to business. I left them at two o'clock yesterday; the debates +not then finished. They differed only about forms of expression, but +agreed in the substance, and probably decided yesterday, or will decide +to-day. Their next move, I fancy, will be to suppress all taxes, and +instantly re-establish them till the end of their session, in order +to prevent a premature dissolution: and then they will go to work on +a declaration of rights and a constitution. The _Noblesse_, I suppose, +will be employed altogether in counter operations; the Clergy, that is +to say, the higher Clergy, and such of the _Cures_ as they can bring +over to their side, will be waiting and watching, merely to keep +themselves in their saddles. Their deportment, hitherto, is that of +meekness and cunning. The fate of the nation depends on the conduct of +the King and his ministers. Were they to side openly with the Commons, +the revolution would be completed without a convulsion, by the +establishment of a constitution, tolerably free, and in which the +distinction of Noble and Commoner would be suppressed. But this is +scarcely possible. The King is honest, and wishes the good of his +people; but the expediency of an hereditary aristocracy is too difficult +a question for him. On the contrary, his prejudices, his habits, and his +connections decide him in his heart to support it. Should they decide +openly for the _Noblesse_, the Commons, after suppressing taxes, +and finishing their declaration of rights, would probably go home; +a bankruptcy takes place in the instant, Mr. Necker must go out, a +resistance to the tax-gatherers follows, and probably a civil war. These +consequences are too evident and violent, to render this issue likely. +Though the Queen and Princes are infatuated enough to hazard it, the +party in the ministry would not. Something, therefore, like what I +hinted in my letter of May the 12th, is still the most likely to take +place. While the Commons, either with or without their friends of the +other two Houses, shall be employed in framing a constitution, perhaps +the government may set the other two Houses to work on the same subject: +and when the three schemes shall be ready, joint committees may be +negotiated, to compare them together, to see in what parts they agree; +and probably they will agree in all, except the organization of the +future States General. As to this, it may be endeavored, by the aid of +wheedling and intimidation, to induce the two privileged chambers to +melt themselves into one, and the Commons, instead of one, to agree to +two Houses of legislation. I see no other middle ground to which they +can be brought. + +It is a tremendous cloud, indeed, which hovers over this nation, and he +at the helm has neither the courage nor the skill necessary to weather +it. Eloquence in a high degree, knowledge in matters of account, and +order, are distinguishing traits in his character. Ambition is his first +passion, virtue his second. He has not discovered that sublime truth, +that a bold, unequivocal virtue is the best handmaid even to ambition, +and would carry him further, in the end, than the temporizing, wavering +policy he pursues. His judgment is not of the first order, scarcely even +of the second; his resolution frail; and upon the whole, it is rare +to meet an instance of a person so much below the reputation he has +obtained. As this character, by the post and times in which Providence +has placed it, is important to be known, I send it to you as drawn by +a person of my acquaintance, who knows him well. He is not, indeed, his +friend, and allowance must, therefore, be made for the high coloring. +But this being abated, the facts and groundwork of the drawing are +just. If the _Tiers_ separate, he goes at the same time; if they stay +together, and succeed in establishing a constitution to their mind, as +soon as that is placed in safety, they will abandon him to the mercy +of the court, unless he can recover the confidence which he has lost at +present, and which, indeed, seems to be irrecoverable. + +The inhabitants of St. Domingo, without the permission of the +government, have chosen and sent deputies to the States General. The +question of their admission is to be discussed by the States. In the +mean time, the government had promised them an Assembly in their own +Island, in the course of the present year. The death of the Dauphin, so +long expected, has at length happened. Montmorin told Ternant the other +day, that De Moustier had now asked a _conge_, which would be sent him +immediately. So that unless a change of ministry should happen, he will, +probably, be otherwise disposed of. The gazettes of France and Leyden +accompany this. I have the honor to be, with the most perfect esteem and +respect, Sir, your most obedient, humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + +P. S. June 18. The motion under debate with the Commons, for +constituting their Assembly, passed yesterday by a majority of +four hundred and odd, against eighty odd. The latter were for it +in substance, but wished some particular amendment. They proceeded +instantly to the subject of taxation. A member who called on me this +moment, gave me a state of the proceedings of yesterday, from memory, +which I enclose you. He left the House a little before the question was +put, because he saw there was no doubt of its passing, and his brother, +who remained till the decision, informed him of it. So that we may +expect, perhaps, in the course of to-morrow, to see whether the +government will interpose with a bold hand, or will begin a negotiation. +But in the mean time, this letter must go off. I will find some other +opportunity, however, of informing you of the issue. T. J. + +^^^ [Character of Mr. Necker, accompanying the preceding letter.] + +Nature bestowed on Mr. Necker an ardent passion for glory, without, at +the same time, granting him those qualities required for its pursuit by +direct means. The union of a fruitful imagination with a limited talent, +with which she has endowed him, is always incompatible with those +faculties of the mind which qualify their possessor to penetrate, to +combine, and to comprehend all the relations of objects. + +He had probably learned in Geneva, his native country, the influence +which riches exercise on the success of ambition, without having +recourse to the school of Paris, where he arrived about the +twenty-eighth year of his age. A personal affair with his brother, in +which the chiefs of the republic conducted themselves unjustly towards +him, the circumstances of which, moreover, exposed him to ridicule, +determined him to forsake his country. On taking his leave, he assured +his mother that he would make a great fortune at Paris. On his arrival, +he engaged himself as clerk, at a salary of six hundred livres, with the +banker Thelusson, a man of extreme harshness in his intercourse with +his dependants. The same cause which obliged other clerks to abandon the +service of Thelusson, determined Necker to continue in it. By submitting +to the brutality of his master with a servile resignation, whilst, +at the same time, he devoted the most unremitting attention to his +business, he recommended himself to his confidence, and was taken into +partnership. Ordinary abilities only were requisite to avail him of the +multitude of favorable circumstances, which, before he entered into the +administration, built up a fortune of six millions of livres. He owed +much of his good fortune to his connections with the Abbe Terrai, +of whose ignorance he did not scruple to profit. His riches, +his profession, his table, and a virtuous, reasonable, and well +informed wife, procured him the acquaintance of many persons of +distinction, among whom were many men of letters, who celebrated his +knowledge and wisdom. + +The wise and just principles by which Turgot aimed to correct the Abuses +of the administration, not having been received with favor, he seized +the occasion to flatter ignorance and malignity, by publishing his work +against the freedom of the corn trade. + +He had published, two years before, an eulogy on Colbert. Both these +productions exhibited the limited capacity of a banker, and, in no +degree, the enlarged views of a statesman. Not at all delicate in the +choice of his means, he succeeded to his wish in his object, which was +the establishing himself in public opinion. Elevated by a secret cabal +to the direction of the finances, he began by refusing the salaries of +his office. He affected a spirit of economy and austerity, which imposed +even on foreign nations, and showed the possibility of making war +without laying new taxes. Such at least was his boast; but, in reality, +they have been increased under his administration, about twenty +millions, partly by a secret augmentation of the bailies and of the +poll-tax, partly by some verifications of the twentieths, and partly +by the natural progression, which is tested by the amount of taxes +on consumption, the necessary result of the successive increase of +population, of riches, and of expensive tastes. + +All these circumstances reared for him an astonishing reputation, which +his fall has consecrated. People will not reflect, that, in the short +period of his ministry, he had more than doubled his fortune. Not +that he had peculated on the public treasury; his good sense and pride +forbade a resort to this manoeuvre of weak minds; but by resorting to +loans and the costly operations of the bank, to provide the funds of +war, and being still connected with the house to which he addressed +himself for much the greater part of his negotiations. They have not +remarked that his great principles of economy have nothing more than +a false show, and that the loans resorted to, in order to avoid the +imposition of taxes, have been the source of the mischief which has +reduced the finances to their present alarming condition. + +As to his _compte rendu_; he has been forgiven the nauseous panegyric +which he has passed upon himself, and the affectation of introducing +his wife into it, for the purpose of praising her; and we are spared +the trouble of examining his false calculations. M. de Calonne has +undertaken this investigation. Without being able to vindicate himself, +he has already begun to unmask his antagonist, and he promises to do it +effectually. + +Necessity has recalled this man to the ministry: and it must be +confessed, that he is beyond comparison a less mischievous minister +than his predecessors. I would compare him to a steward, who, by his +management, does not entirely ruin his master, but who enriches himself +at his expense. The desire of glory should inspire him as much as +possible with the energy requisite for the public business. There is +every likelihood that his ministry will not endure long enough, to cause +it to feel the effects of his false principles of administration: and +it is he alone who is able, if any one can, to preserve order in the +finances, until the reform is effected which we hope from the assembling +of the States General. In the mean time, the public estimation of his +talents and virtue is not so high as it has been. There are persons who +pretend that he is more firmly established in public opinion than he +ever was. They deceive themselves. The ambitious desire he has always +manifested of getting again into the administration, his work on the +Importance of Religious Opinions, and the Memoires of M. de Calonne, +have greatly impaired his reputation. + + + + +LETTER CCVII.--TO JAMES MADISON, June 18, 1789 + + + +TO JAMES MADISON. + +Paris, June 18, 1789. + +Sir, + +My last to you was of May the 11th. Yours of March the 29th came to +hand ten days ago; and about two days ago, I received a cover of your +hand-writing, under which were a New York paper of May the 4th, and a +letter from Mr. Page to Mazzei. There being no letter from you, makes me +hope there is one on the way, which will inform me of my _conge_. I +have never received Mr. Jay's answer to my public letter of November the +19th, which you mention him to have written, and which I fear has been +intercepted. I know only from you, that my letter got safe to hand. My +baggage has been made up more than a month, so that I shall leave Paris +almost in the instant of receiving the permission. + +The campaign begins under unfavorable auspices for Russia. The death of +the Grand Seignior, who was personally disposed for peace, has brought a +young and ardent successor to the throne, determined to push the war to +extremity. Her only ally, the Emperor, is _in articulo mortis_, and the +grand Duke of Tuscany, should he succeed, loves peace and money. Denmark +is forbidden by England and Prussia to furnish even its stipulated +maritime aid. There is no appearance of any other power's engaging +in the war. As far as I can discover, the King of England is somewhat +better in his head, but under such a complete depression of spirits, +that he does not care how the world goes, and leaves his ministers to do +as they please. It is impossible for you to conceive how difficult it is +to know the truth relative to him, he is environed in such an atmosphere +of lies. Men who would not speak a falsehood on any other subject, lie +on this, from a principle of duty; so that even eye-witnesses cannot be +believed without scanning their principles and connections; and few will +stand this, of the very few permitted to see him. + +Committees of conciliation having failed in their endeavors to bring +together the three chambers of the States General, the King proposed a +specific mode of verifying their powers; for that having been the +first question which presented itself to them, was the one in which the +question of voting by persons or orders was first brought on. The clergy +accepted unconditionally. The _Noblesse_ accepted on conditions which +reduced the acceptance to nothing at all. The Commons considered this as +a refusal on the part of the Nobles, and thereupon took their definitive +resolution, to invite the other two orders to come and verify their +powers in common, and to notify them they should proceed with or without +them to verify, and to do the business of the nation. This was on +the 10th. On the 15th, they moved to declare themselves the National +Assembly. The debates on this were finished yesterday, when the +proposition was agreed to, by four hundred and odd, against eighty odd. +The minority agreed in substance, but wished some particular amendment. +They then immediately made the proposition relative to taxes, which I +enclose you, as this moment stated to me, by memory, by a member who +left the Assembly a little before the question, because there was no +opposition to the matter, but only to the form. He assures me, on the +information of another member who was present, that Target's motion +passed. We shall know, I think, within a day or two, whether the +government will risk a bankruptcy and civil war, rather than see all +distinction of orders done way, which is what the Commons will push +for. If the fear of the former alternative prevails, they will spin the +matter into negotiation. The Commons have in their chamber almost all +the talents of the nation; they are firm and bold, yet moderate. There +is indeed, among them, a number of very hot-headed members; but those +of most influence are cool, temperate, and sagacious. Every step of this +House has been marked with caution and wisdom. The _Noblesse_, on the +contrary, are absolutely out of their senses. They are so furious, they +can seldom debate at all. They have few men of moderate talents, and +not one of great, in the majority. Their proceedings have been very +injudicious. The Clergy are waiting to profit of every incident to +secure themselves, and have no other object in view. Among the Commons, +there is an entire unanimity on the great question of voting by persons. +Among the _Noblesse_, there are about sixty for the Commons, and about +three times that number against them. Among the Clergy, about twenty +have already come over and joined the Commons, and in the course of +a few days, they will be joined by many more, not indeed making the +majority of that House, but very near it. The Bishops and Archbishops +have been very successful by bribes and intrigues, in detaching the +_Cures_ from the Commons, to whom they were at first attached to a man. +The Commons are about, five hundred and fifty-four in number, of whom +three hundred and forty-four are of the Jaw. These do not possess an +influence founded in property; but in their habits of business and +acquaintance with the people, and in their means of exciting them as +they please. The _Cures_, throughout the kingdom, form the mass of the +Clergy; they are the only part favorably known to the people, because +solely charged with the duties of baptism, burial, confession, +visitation of the sick, instruction of the children, and aiding the +poor; they are themselves of the people, and united with them. The +carriages and equipage only of the higher Clergy, not their persons, are +known to the people, and are in detestation with them. The soldiers will +follow their officers, that is to say, their captains, lieutenants, and +ensigns. These are of the lower nobility, and therefore much divided. +The colonels and higher officers are of the higher nobility, are +seldom with the soldiers, little known to them, not possessing their +attachment. These circumstances give them little weight in the partition +of the army. + +I give you these miscellaneous observations, that knowing somewhat the +dispositions of the parties, you may be able to judge of the future for +yourself, as I shall not be here to continue its communication to you. + +In hopes to see you soon, I conclude with assurances of the perfect +esteem and respect, with which I am, Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCVIII.--TO JOHN JAY, June 24,1789 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Sir, + +Paris, June 24,1789. + +My letter of the 17th and 18th instant gave you the progress of the +States General to the 17th, when the _Tiers_ had declared the illegality +of all the existing taxes, and their discontinuance from the end of +their present session. The next day, being a _jour de fete_, could +furnish no indication of the impression that vote was likely to make +on the government. On the 19th, a Council was held at Marly, in the +afternoon. It was there proposed, that the King should interpose by +a declaration of his sentiments in a _seance royale_. The declaration +prepared by M. Necker, while it censured, in general, the proceedings +both of the Nobles and Commons, announced the King's views, such as +substantially to coincide with the Commons. It was agreed to in Council, +as also that the _seance royale_ should be held on the 22nd, and the +meetings till then be suspended. While the Council was engaged in this +deliberation at Marly, the chamber of the Clergy was in debate, whether +they should accept the invitation of the _Tiers_ to unite with them +in the common chamber. On the first question, to unite simply and +unconditionally, it was decided in the negative by a very small +majority. As it was known however, that some members who had voted in +the negative, would be for the affirmative, with some modifications, the +question was put with these modifications, and it was determined by a +majority of eleven members, that their body should join the _Tiers_. +These proceedings of the Clergy were unknown to the Council at Marly, +and those of the Council were kept secret from every body. The next +morning (the 20th), the members repaired to the House as usual, found +the doors shut and guarded, and a proclamation posted up for holding +a _seance royale_ on the 22nd, and a suspension of their meetings till +then. They presumed, in the first moment, that their dissolution +was decided, and repaired to another place, where they proceeded to +business. They there bound themselves to each other by an oath, never to +separate of their own accord, till they had settled a constitution for +the nation on a solid basis, and if separated by force, that they would +re-assemble in some other place. It was intimated to them, however, that +day, privately, that the proceedings of the _seance royale_ would be +favorable to them. The next day they met in a church, and were joined by +a majority of the Clergy. The heads of the aristocracy saw that all was +lost without some violent exertion. The King was still at Marly. Nobody +was permitted to approach him but their friends. He was assailed by lies +in all shapes. He was made to believe that the Commons were going to +absolve the army from their oath of fidelity to him, and to raise their +pay. + +***** + +They procured a committee to be held, consisting of the King and his +ministers, to which Monsieur and the Count d'Artois should be admitted. +At this committee, the latter attacked Mr. Necker personally, arraigned +his plans, and proposed one which some of his engines had put into his +hands. Mr. Necker, whose characteristic is the want of firmness, was +browbeaten and intimidated, and the King shaken. He determined that the +two plans should be deliberated on the next day, and the _seance royale_ +put off a day longer. This encouraged a fiercer attack on Mr. Necker +the next day; his plan was totally dislocated, and that of the Count +d'Artois inserted into it. Himself and Monsieur de Montmorin offered +their resignation, which was refused; the Count d'Artois saying to +Mr. Necker, 'No, Sir, you must be kept as the hostage; we hold you +responsible for all the ill which shall happen.' This change of plan was +immediately whispered without doors. The nobility were in triumph, the +people in consternation. When the King passed, the next day, through the +lane they formed from the Chateau to the _Hotel des Etats_ (about half +a mile), there was a dead silence. He was about an hour in the House, +delivering his speech and declaration, copies of which I enclose you. +On his coming out, a feeble cry of 'Vive le Roy' was raised by some +children, but the people remained silent and sullen. When the Duke +d'Orleans followed, however, their applauses were excessive. This must +have been sensible to the King. He had ordered, in the close of +his speech, that the members should follow him, and resume their +deliberations the next day. The _Noblesse_ followed him, and so did the +Clergy, except about thirty, who, with the _Tiers_, remained in the room +and entered into deliberation. They protested against what the King +had done, adhered to all their former proceedings, and resolved the +inviolability of their own persons. An officer came twice to order them +out of the room, in the King's name, but they refused to obey. In the +afternoon, the people, uneasy, began to assemble in great numbers in the +courts and vicinities of the palace. The Queen was alarmed, and sent for +Mr. Necker. He was conducted amidst the shouts and acclamations of the +multitude, who filled all the apartments of the palace. He was a few +minutes only with the Queen, and about three quarters of an hour with +the King. Not a word has transpired of what passed at these interviews. +The King was just going to ride out. He passed through the crowd to his +carriage, and into it, without being in the least noticed. As Mr. Necker +followed him, universal acclamations were raised of '_Vive Monsieur +Necker, vive le sauveur de la France opprimee_.' He was conducted back +to his house with the same demonstrations of affection and anxiety. +About two hundred deputies of the _Tiers_, catching the enthusiasm of +the moment, went to his house, and extorted from him a promise that he +would not resign. These circumstances must wound the heart of the King, +desirous as he is, to possess the affections of his subjects. As soon +as the proceedings at Versailles were known at Paris, a run began on +the _caisse d'escompte_, which is the first symptom always of the public +diffidence and alarm. It is the less in condition to meet the run, as +Mr. Necker has been forced to make free with its funds, for the daily +support of the government. This is the state of things as late as I am +able to give them with certainty, at this moment. My letter not being to +go off till to-morrow evening, I shall go to Versailles to-morrow, and +be able to add the transactions of this day and to-morrow. + +June 25. Just returned from Versailles, I am enabled to continue my +narration. On the 24th, nothing remarkable passed, except an attack by +the mob of Versailles on the Archbishop of Paris, who had been one +of the instigators of the court, to the proceedings of the, _seance +royale_. They threw mud and stones at his carriage, broke the windows of +it, and he in a fright promised to join the _Tiers_. + +This day (the 25th) forty-eight of the Nobles have joined the _Tiers_. +Among these is the Duke d'Orleans. The Marquis de la Fayette could not +be of the number, being restrained by his instructions. He is writing +to his constituents, to change his instructions or to accept his +resignation. There are with the _Tiers_ now one hundred and sixty-four +members of the Clergy, so that the common chamber consists of upwards +of eight hundred members. The minority of the Clergy, however, call +themselves the Chamber of the Clergy, and pretend to go on with +business. I found the streets of Versailles much embarrassed with +soldiers. There was a body of about one hundred horse drawn up in front +of the Hotel of the States, and all the avenues and doors guarded by +soldiers. Nobody was permitted to enter but the members, and this was by +order of the King; for till now, the doors of the common room have +been open, and at least two thousand spectators attending their debates +constantly. They have named a deputation to wait on the King, and desire +a removal of the soldiery from their doors, and seem determined, if this +is not complied with, to remove themselves elsewhere. + +Instead of being dismayed with what has passed, they seem to rise in +their demands, and some of them to consider the erasing every vestige +of a difference of order, as indispensable to the establishment and +preservation of a good constitution. I apprehend there is more courage +than calculation in this project. I did imagine, that seeing that Mr. +Necker and themselves were involved as common enemies in the hatred of +the aristocrats, they would have been willing to make common cause with +him, and to wish his continuance in office; and that Mr. Necker, seeing +that all the trimming he has used towards the court and Nobles has +availed him nothing, would engage himself heartily and solely on the +popular side, and view his own salvation in that alone. The confidence +which the people place in him, seems to merit some attention. However, +the mass of the common chamber are absolutely indifferent to his +remaining in office. They consider his head as unequal to the planning a +good constitution, and his fortitude to a co-operation in the effecting +it. His dismission is more credited to-day than it was yesterday. If +it takes place, he will retain his popularity with the nation, as the +members of the States will not think it important to set themselves +against it, but on the contrary, will be willing that he should continue +on their side, on his retirement. The run on the _caisse d'escompte_ +continues. The members of the States admit, that Mr. Necker's departure +out of office will occasion a stoppage of public payments. But they +expect to prevent any very ill effect, by assuring the public against +any loss, and by taking immediate measures for continuing payment. They +may, perhaps, connect these measures with their own existence, so as to +interest the public in whatever catastrophe may be aimed at them. The +gazettes of France and Leyden accompany this. During the continuance +of this crisis and my own stay, I shall avail myself of every private +conveyance to keep you informed of what passes. + +I have the honor to be, with the most perfect esteem and respect, Sir, +your most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCIX.--TO JOHN JAY, June 29, 1789 + + +TO JOHN JAY. + +Paris, June 29, 1789. + +Sir, + +My letter of the 25th gave you the transactions of the States General to +the afternoon of that day. On the next, the Archbishop of Paris joined +the _Tiers_, as did some others of the Clergy and _Noblesse_. On the +27th, the question of the St. Domingo deputation came on, and it was +decided that it should be received. I have before mentioned to you the +ferment into which the proceedings at the _seance royale_ of the 23rd +had thrown the people. The soldiery also were affected by it. It began +in the French guards, extended to those of every other denomination +(except the Swiss), and even to the body-guards of the King. They began +to quit their barracks, to assemble in squads, to declare they would +defend the life of the King, but would not cut the throats of their +fellow-citizens. They were treated and caressed by the people, carried +in triumph through the streets, called themselves the soldiers of the +nation, and left no doubt on which side they would be, in case of a +rupture. Similar accounts came in from the troops in other parts of the +kingdom, as well those which had not heard of the _seance royale_, as +those which had, and gave good reason to apprehend that the soldiery, +in general, would side with their fathers and brothers, rather than with +their officers. The operation of this medicine, at Versailles, was as +sudden as it was powerful. The alarm there was so complete, that in the +afternoon of the 27th, the King wrote a letter to the President of +the Clergy, the Cardinal de la Rochefoucault, in these words: [* A +translation is here given.] + + * My Cousin, Wholly engaged in promoted the general good of + my kingdom, and desirous, above all things, that the + Assembly of the States General should apply themselves to + objects of general interest, after the voluntary acceptance + by your order of my declaration of the 23rd of the present + month; I pass my word that my faithful Clergy will, without + delay, unite themselves with the other two orders, to hasten + the accomplishment of my paternal views. Those whose powers + are too limited, may decline voting until new powers are + procured. This will be a new mark of attachment which my + Clergy will give me. I pray God, my Cousin, to have you in + his holy keeping. LOUIS.' + +A like letter was written to the Duke de Luxemburgh, President of +the _Noblesse_. The two chambers entered into debate on the question, +whether they should obey the letter of the King. There was a +considerable opposition; when notes written by the Count d'Artois to +sundry members, and handed about among the rest, decided the matter, +and they went in a body and took their seats with the _Tiers_, and thus +rendered the union of the orders in one chamber complete. As soon as +this was known to the people of Versailles, they assembled about the +palace, demanded the King and Queen, who came and showed themselves in +a balcony. They rent the skies with cries of 'Vive la Roy,' 'Vive la +Reine.' They, called for the Dauphin, who was also produced, and was +the subject of new acclamations. After feasting themselves and the royal +family with this tumultuary reconciliation, they went to the house +of Mr. Necker and M. de Montmorin, with shouts of thankfulness and +affection. Similar emotions of joy took place in Paris, and at this +moment, the triumph of the Tiers is considered as complete. Tomorrow +they will recommence business, voting by persons on all questions: and +whatever difficulties may be opposed in debate by the malcontents of the +Clergy and Nobility, every thing must be finally settled at the will of +the _Tiers_. It remains to see whether they will leave to the nobility +any thing but their titulary appellations. I suppose they will not. Mr. +Necker will probably remain in office. It would seem natural that he +should endeavor to have the hostile part of the Council removed, but +I question if he finds himself firm enough for that. A perfect +co-operation with the _Tiers_ will be his wisest game. This great crisis +being now over, I shall not have matter interesting enough to trouble +you with, as often as I have done lately. There has nothing remarkable +taken place in any other part of Europe. + +I have the honor to be, with the most perfect esteem and respect, Sir, +your most; obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCX.--TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE, July 6, 1789 + + +TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE. + +Paris, July 6, 1789. + +Dear Sir, + +I never made an offer to any body to have corn or flour brought here +from America: no such idea ever entered my head. Mr. Necker desired me +to give information in America, that there would be a want of flour. I +did so in a letter to Mr. Jay, which he published with my name to it, +for the encouragement of the merchants. Those here, who have named me +on this subject, must have mistaken me for Mr. Parker. I have heard +him say, he offered to Mr. Necker to bring a large supply, yet I do not +think I ever repeated this: or if I did, it must have been in a company +I relied on. I will thank you to satisfy Mr. Necker of the truth. It +would be disagreeable, and perhaps mischievous, were he to have an idea +that I encouraged censures on him. I will bring you the paper you desire +to-morrow; and shall dine at the Dutchess Danville's, where I shall be +happy to meet you. + +Adieu. Yours affectionately. + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCXI.--TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE, July 7,1789 + + +TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE. + +Paris, July 7,1789. + +Dear Sir, + +Your letter of yesterday gave me the first information that Monsieur de +Mirabeau had suggested to the honorable the Assembly of the Nation, that +I had made an offer to Mr. Necker to obtain from America a quantity +of corn or flour, which had been refused. I know not how Monsieur de +Mirabeau has been led into this error. I never in my life made any +proposition to Mr. Necker on the subject: I never said I had made such +a proposition. Some time last autumn, Mr. Necker did me the honor to +desire I would have notified in the United States, that corn and flour +would meet with a good sale in France. I conveyed this notice, in a +letter to Mr. Jay, Secretary for Foreign Affairs, as you will see by the +extract of my letter published by him in an American gazette, which I +have the honor to send you. I must beg leave to avail myself of your +friendship and of your position to have a communication of these facts +made to the honorable Assembly of the Nation, of which you are a member, +and to repeat to you those sentiments of respect and attachment, with +which I have the honor to be, my dear Sir, your most obedient and most + +humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCXII.--TO MR. NECKER, July 8, 1789 + + +TO MR. NECKER. + +Paris, July 8, 1789 + +Sir, + +I have the honor to enclose you a copy of my letter to Monsieur de +la Fayette. When I called on him yesterday, he had already spoken to +Monsieur de Mirabeau, who acknowledged he had been in an error in what +he had advanced in the Assembly of the Nation, as to the proposition +supposed to have been made by me to your Excellency, and undertook to +declare his error, when the subject should be resumed by the Assembly, +to whom my letter to the Marquis de la Fayette will be also read. + +I have thought it a duty, Sir, thus to correct, in the first moment, an +error, by which your name had been compromitted by an unfounded use +of mine, and shall be happy in every occasion of proving to you those +sentiments of profound respect and attachment, with which I have the +honor to be, your Excellency's most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCXIII.--TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN, July 8, 1789 + + +TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN. + +Paris, July 8, 1789. + +Sir, + +My hotel having been lately robbed for the third time, I take the +liberty of uniting my wish with that of the inhabitants of this quarter, +that it might coincide with the arrangements of police, to extend to us +the protection of a guard. While the _Douane_ remained here, no accident +of that kind happened, but since their removal, other houses in the +neighborhood have been robbed as well as mine. Perhaps it may lessen the +difficulties of this request, that the house occupied by the people of +the _Douane_, will lodge abundantly a _corps de garde_. On the one side +of that house is Chaillot, on the other the Roule, on the third the +Champs Elysees, where accidents are said to happen very frequently, all +of which are very distant from any _corps de garde_. + +I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect respect and +esteem, your Excellency's most obedient and most humble servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCXIV.--TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE, July 9, 1789 + + +TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE. + +Paris, July 9, 1789. + +Dear Sir, + +Having been curious to form some estimate of the quantity of corn and +flour which have been supplied to France this year, I applied to a +person in the Farms to know upon what quantities the premium had been +paid. He could not give me information, but as to the Atlantic ports, +into which there have been imported from the United States, from March +to May inclusive, forty-four thousand one hundred and sixteen quintals +of corn, twelve thousand two hundred and twenty-one quintals of flour, +making fifty-six thousand three hundred and thirty-seven quintals in +the whole. Add to this what has been imported since May, suppose nearly +twenty thousand quintals a month, and what has been furnished to the +French islands, which has prevented an equal quantity being exported +from France, and you will have the proportion drawn from us. Observe, +that we have regular and constant markets for our corn and flour in +Spain, Portugal, and all the West India islands, except the French. +These take nearly our whole quantity. This year, France, the French +West Indies, and Canada were added. But a regular course of trade is not +quitted in an instant, nor constant customers deserted for accidental +ones. This is the reason that so small a proportion has come here. + +I am, Dear Sir, with great sincerity, your affectionate friend and +servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCXV.--TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE, July 10, 1789 + + +TO THE MARQUIS DE LA FAYETTE. + +Paris, July 10, 1789. + +Dear Sir, + +The acknowledgment by Monsieur de Mirabeau to the National Assembly, +that he had been in an error as to the offer he supposed me to have +made, and the reading to them my letter, seem to be all that was +requisite for any just purpose. As I was unwilling my name should be +used to injure the minister, I am also unwilling it should be used +to injure Monsieur de Mirabeau. I learn that his enemies in Paris are +framing scandalous versions of my letter. I think, therefore, with you, +it may be better to print it, and I send you a copy of it. I gave copies +of it to Monsieur de Montmorin and Monsieur Necker, as was my duty. + +I am, with sincere affection, my Dear Sir, your friend and servant, + +Th: Jefferson. + + + + +LETTER CCXVI.--TO THOMAS PAINE, July 11, 1789 + + +TO THOMAS PAINE. + +Paris, July 11, 1789. + +Dear Sir, + +Since my last, which was of May the 19th, I have received yours of +June the 17th and 18th. I am struck with the idea of the geometrical +wheel-barrow, and will beg of you a farther account, if it can be +obtained. I have no news yet of my _conge_. + +Though you have doubtless heard most of the proceedings of the States +General since my last, I will take up the narration where that left it, +that you may be able to separate the true from the false accounts you +have heard. A good part of what was conjecture in that letter, is now +become true history. + +***** + +The National Assembly, then, (for that is the name they take,) having +shown through every stage of these transactions a coolness, wisdom, and +resolution to set fire to the four corners of the kingdom, and to perish +with it themselves, rather than to relinquish an iota from their plan +of a total change of government, are now in complete and undisputed +possession of the sovereignty. The executive and aristocracy are at +their feet; the mass of the nation, the mass of the clergy, and the +army are with them: they have prostrated the old government, and are now +beginning to build one from the foundation. A committee, charged with +the arrangement of their business, gave in, two days ago, the following +order of proceedings. + +'1. Every government should have for its only end, the preservation +of the rights of man: whence it follows, that to recall constantly +the government to the end proposed, the constitution should begin by a +declaration of the natural and imprescriptible rights of man. + +'2. Monarchical government being proper to maintain those rights, it has +been chosen by the French nation. It suits especially a great society; +it is necessary for the happiness of France. The declaration of the +principles of this government, then, should follow immediately the +declaration of the rights of man. + +'3. It results from the principles of monarchy, that the nation, to +assure its own rights, has yielded particular rights to the monarch: the +constitution, then, should declare, in a precise manner, the rights of +both. It should begin by declaring the rights of the French nation, and +then should declare the rights of the King. + +'4. The rights of the King and nation not existing but for the happiness +of the individuals who compose it, they lead to an examination of the +rights of citizens. + +'5. The French nation not being capable of assembling individually to +exercise all its rights, it ought to be represented. It is necessary, +then, to declare the form of its representation and the rights of its +representatives. + +'6. From the union of the powers of the nation and King, should result +the enacting and execution of the laws: thus, then, it should first +be determined how the laws shall be established; afterwards should be +considered, how they shall be executed. + +'7. Laws have for their object the general administration of the +kingdom, the property, and the actions of the citizens. The execution of +the laws which concern the general administration, requires Provincial +and Municipal Assemblies. It is necessary to examine, therefore, what +should be the organization of the Provincial Assemblies, and what of the +Municipal. + +'8. The execution of the laws, which concern the property and actions of +the citizens, calls for a judiciary power. It should be determined how +that should be confided, and then its duties and limits. + +'9. For the execution of the laws and the defence of the kingdom, +there exists a public force. It is necessary, then, to determine the +principles which should direct it, and how it should be employed. + +'Recapitulation. + +'Declaration of the rights of man. Principles of the monarchy. Rights of +the nation. Rights of the King. Rights of the citizens. + +'Organization and rights of the National Assembly. Forms necessary for +the enaction of laws. Organization and functions of the Provincial +and Municipal Assemblies. Duties and limits of the judiciary power. +Functions and duties of the military power.' + + +You see that these are the materials of a superb edifice, and the hands +which have prepared them are perfectly capable of putting them together, +and of filling up the work, of which these are only the outlines. While +there are some men among them of very superior abilities, the mass +possess such a degree of good sense, as enables them to decide well. I +have always been afraid their numbers might lead to confusion. Twelve +hundred men in one room are too many. I have still that fear. Another +apprehension is, that a majority cannot be induced to adopt the trial by +jury, and I consider that as the only anchor ever yet imagined by man, +by which a government can be held to the principles of its constitution. +Mr. Paradise is the bearer of this letter. 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