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+The Project Gutenberg EBook of A Very Pleasaunt & Fruitful Diologe Called
+the Epicure, by Desiderius Erasmus
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+Title: A Very Pleasaunt & Fruitful Diologe Called the Epicure
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+Author: Desiderius Erasmus
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+Release Date: July 8, 2005 [EBook #16246]
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+Language: English
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+*** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK A VERY PLEASAUNT & FRUITFUL ***
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+                     A VE-
+                ry pleasaunt &
+                fruitful Dio-
+               loge called the
+                  *Epicure*,
+               made by that fa-
+               mous clerke Eras
+                mus of Rotero-
+                  dame, newly
+                  translated.
+                     1545.
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+          _S. Paule to the Ephesians_
+
+        You that haue professed Christ,
+     suffre not your selues to be deceyued
+        vvith false doctrine, nor vaine
+        and noughtie talkyng, but herken
+          vnto all Godly thynges, and
+          especially too the doctryne
+                of the Gospell.
+
+
+||A.ii.||
+
+                  THE HABOVN-
+         daunt mercie and grace of our
+          heauenly father Iesu Christ,
+            maye alwaies strengthen
+            and defende oure noble
+             & vertuous Prynce Ed-
+              ward too the mainte-
+              naunce of the liue-
+                  ly woord of
+                      God.
+
+
+Whereas manye histories of olde & auncient antiquitie,
+and also al godly & Christiã writers most playnely consêt
+together, and agree in this, that dignitie, riches, kinred,
+worldly pompe, and renoume, doo neither make men better, ne
+yet happiar, contrarie too the blynde & fonde iudgement of
+the most part of menne: but by the power and strength of the
+mynde, that is, learnyng, wysedome, || and vertue, all menne
+are hyghly enriched, ornated, & most purely beutified, for
+these bee thinges bothe notable, eternall, and verye
+familiar betwene the heauenly father & vs. It is therefore
+euidente (most excellent Prince) that the fittest ornamêtes
+for your graces tender age, bee, eruditiõ and vertue.
+Wherunto you are bothe so ernestly addicte and therin so
+wõderfully doo preuaile, that I nede not too exhorte &
+exstimulate your grace vnto the study thereof. For that God
+him self hath wrought, and fourmed your mynde so apt and
+desirous too attayne and diligêtly too seeke for al godly
+doctrine, that euê now you doo shewe in all youre saiynges
+and dooinges suche a wonderfull pleasaûtes much lyke vnto
+a certayne swete musike or harmonie, that any honest hart
+exceadinglye woulde reioyce in the sight therof. Verely,
+your grace thinketh plainly all time lost, that is not
+bestowed vpon learnyng, which is a verie rare thyng in anye
+childe, and rarest of all in a Prince. Thus youre noblenes,
+rather desireth vertue and ||A.iii.|| learning the most
+surest and excellent treasures, which farre surmounte all
+worldly ryches, then anye vanities or trifles. Nowe youre
+grace prepareth for the holsome and pleasaunt foode of
+the mynde. Now you seke for that whiche you shal fynd
+most surest helper and faythfulst councellour in all your
+affaires. Now your magnificêt mynde studieth that, whiche
+all Englyshe menne with meke and humile heartes shuld desire
+GOD to endue your grace with all. Now with diligent labour
+you searche for a thyng, as one most myndeful of this
+saiyng: Happy is that realme that hath a lerned Prince. Nowe
+you trauaile for that, whiche conquereth, and kepeth doune
+all greuous tourmentes & outragious affections of the mynde,
+too the furderaunce of good liuyng, and maintenaûce of
+vertue, I meane holsome erudition and learnyng. Many
+Heathen Princes forsoth, are highly magnified with most
+ample prayses, which gaue them selues too the study of
+Philosophie, or knowledge of tongues, for their owne
+commoditie, and || especially for the weale of their
+subiectes. Who is nowe more celebrated and worthelier
+extolled then Mithridates? that noble kyng of Pont and
+Bithinia, which, (as Aulus Gellius writeth) vnderstoode so
+perfitly the languages of .xxii. sondrye countries that were
+vnder his dominiõ, that he neuer vsed any interpretour too
+answer his subiectes, but spake their lãguages so finelye,
+as thoughe he had been of the same coûtrie. Ageyn, that
+honorable manne Quintus Ennius saied: that he had .iii.
+heartes, because he coulde speake Greke, Italian, and Latin.
+Yea, and breuely, the most famaus writers, as well the
+Heathen, as the Christien, with an vniuersall consent,
+playnly affirme: Whan thei had weied the nature and condiciõ
+of the purest thinges vnder heauen, thei sawe nothyng faire,
+or of any pryce, or that ought too be accõpted ours, but
+onely vertue and learning. Euen now too acknowledge that
+same, it is yeouê you from aboue, for your grace delecteth
+in nothyng more then too bee occupied in the holye Byble:
+wherin, ||A.iiii.|| you beginne too sauer & smelle furth
+the treasure of wisedome, knowledge and fulnes of the deuyne
+power, that is a studie most conuenient for euery Christien
+Prince, that kynd of studye cannot haue sufficient laude
+and commendation. Whose Princely heart forsoth, is raueshed
+on suche a godlie and vertuous studie, it can neuer haue
+condigne and worthie praises, but deserueth alwaies too bee
+had in great price, estimation, and honour. Who dooeth not
+know? that Prince which is yeouen vnto the scriptures of God
+and with a stoute stomake and valiãt heart, both searcheth
+furth and also defendeth ye true doctrine of the Gospell,
+too bee inrolled in the assemble of Christ. Who dooeth not
+see? that Prince too bee moost surelye armed, which carieth
+in his heart the swerd of ye spirit, which is the blessed
+woord of God. Who is ignoraunt? that euer lastyng lyfe
+consisteth in the knoweledge of God. What Prince woulde not
+studie to maintaine that, which is written for the health,
+and saluation of all menne weiyuge with himselfe || that a
+Prince can not deserue, neither by conquest, ciuel policie,
+nor yet by anye other meane vnder heauen, thys name high or
+honorable, so wourthely as by the setting forward of Goddes
+woorde. What young Prince humily defendyng doune intoo him
+selfe and callyng to memory his bounden dutie woulde not
+with a glad hearte and a chearfull mynde, gredelye desyre
+too knowe, enlarge, and amplifie the glory and maiestie
+of hys derely beloued father? Your grace (forsoth) hath
+professed God too bee your father: Blessed are you then if
+you obey vnto hys word, and walke in his waies. Blessed are
+you, yf you supporte suche as preache the Gospell. Blessed
+are you, yf your mind bee full furnished with the testament
+of Christ, and shew your selfe too bee the most cruel
+too and enemy agaynst ypocrisie, supersticion, and all
+papistical phantasies, wherwith the true religion of God
+hathe been dusked and defaced these many yeres Blessed are
+you, if you reade it daye & nighte, that your grace maye
+knowe what GOD dooeth forbyd you, and ||A.v.|| euer submit
+your selfe therunto with seruiceable lowlines chiefly
+desiring to florysh and decke your mynd with godly
+knowledge. And most blessed are you, if you apply your
+self vnto al good workes, & plant surely in your heart the
+scriptures of Christ, If you thus doo, nether the power of
+any papistical realme, nor yet of hel can preuaile at any
+time against your grace. Nowe therfore, with humile hearte,
+faithfully receiue the swete promises of the Gospel. If
+you kepe the woordes of the Lorde and cleaue fast vnto
+them: there is promised you the kingdome of heauen: You
+are promised a weale publick most riche and welthy You are
+promised too bee deliuered from the deceiptes of all youre
+priuie enemyes. You are promised also, too conquere great
+and mightie nations. Agayne, let your grace bee most fully
+perswaded in this, that ther was neuer Kyng nor Prince, that
+prospered whiche tooke parte against Goddes woord, and that
+the greatest abhomination that can bee, either for Kyng,
+Prince, or any other manne, is too || forsake the true woord
+of God. O with howe rebukefull woordes & greuous iudgement
+thei be condemned, which dispice & set lytle by the holy
+Byble & most blessed Testamêt of God, wherin there is
+contained all the wil & pleasure of our heauêly father
+toward vs most miserable & ignoraunt wretches Who would not
+quake, too beholde the terrible feares & threatenynges of
+God ageinst al suche? Who would not lament & gladly helppe
+their obstinate blyndenes? Who woulde not weepe? to heare
+and reade in how many places, they be openly accursed by the
+scriptures of Christ. God him self playnely affirmeth, that
+he wyll sodênly consume them with the breath of his anger.
+Yea, besides that whoso euer declyneth from the word of
+God is accursed in all his doynges, whether he be Kyng, or
+Prynce, riche, or poore, or of what estate soeuer he bee.
+This fearfull saiyng (most excellent Prynce) shulde moue all
+men to take hede vnto their duties and to praie that gods
+word maie take place emõgist vs. O that al men would
+||fantasie the scriptures of God, and saye with the vertuous
+man Iob. Wee will not bee ageynst the woordes of the holy
+one. Truth it is, God taketh diligent care too haue vs al
+know his woord. Woulde God therfore, that all wee were now
+willing to haue the syncere woorde of God & all holsom
+doctrine too go forward. O that all we would consent
+togither in the Gospell, brotherly admonishyng, and
+secretelye prouokyng one an other too true religion
+& vertue. O that no man would sow emongist the people
+pernitious doctryne, but with all lowly diligêce and Godlye
+monition euer prouoke, tempt, and stere them, tyll their
+heartes were remoued frõ their olde dautyng dreames and
+supersticiõ, which haue been long grafted in them thorow
+popyshe doctrine. By this meane wee shuld euer haue concorde
+emongist vs, whiche in all thynges is necessary, but most
+nedefull and expedient in Gods holi woord. Now truely the
+godlyest thynge that can bee deuysed, for any christian
+realme, is to haue emongist them one maner and || fourme
+of doctryne, & too trace trueli the steppes of God and
+neuer to seeke any other bywayes. Who hath not redde in ye
+scriptures? but that realme is endued with godly ornamentes
+& riches, where all men prospere, go for ward and florishe
+in gods woord, delectyng day and night in the swete
+cõsolations of the holy testament. By this way we shuld
+especially set forth the glory of God, and of our sauiour
+Iesu Christ, if we would reuerently shew one an other that
+whiche God hath taught vs. Yea & in this doyng all men
+shulde well perceaue that we were the true disciples of
+Christ, being knitte and coupled fast together in mynde
+and iudgement, preachyng God with one mouth and also with
+one assent euer promotyng his gloryous testament. O the
+good happe and grace of that king or prynce emongist whose
+subiectes there is such an hole consent and iudgement in the
+woord of God, for that most assuredly byndeth & adiuigneth
+ye hartes of al subiectes too their kyng. The strength of
+the Gospell is euen suche in this puincte, || that there was
+neuer man, which did humily receaue it, that would murmour
+ageynst his Prince. It teacheth how wyllyngly all men shulde
+obey their kyng. It sheweth verye lyuely and most apertly
+vnto euery man his ful dutie. It euer prouoketh vs from all
+wicked, cursed, and most obstinate disobedience. It euer
+instructeth men too shewe them selues most lowly, humile,
+and obesaunt toward their Prynce. Whosoeuer hath tasted
+fully therof, will declare hym selfe in al thynges, too
+bee a faithful subiect. Furthermore, it is clearer then the
+light (most vertuous prince) that it woulde make muche for
+the weale of this noble realme, yf all mê with heart and
+mynde, would nowe as well expulse the pernitious and
+deuelyshe doctryne af that Romishe bishop, as his name is
+blotted î bookes. There is none so ignoraunt, but he knoweth
+that, thorough hym we were brought into a wõderful blindnes,
+thorough hym we did sauer of nothyng, but of stynkyng
+Ydolatry, through hym we were deceiued with || false
+Ypocrisie. Now let euery blind stiffe hearted, and obstinate
+creature compare his abhomination with the gospell, and
+if he be not shameles, he will abashe to smell of his
+papistrie, and to walow still in ignoraunce, vn lest he bee
+priuely confederate and in heart consent with the detestable
+felowship of al wicked papistes. Now would God all suche men
+would reduce ageyn their heartes vnto ye gospell of Christ,
+would god they would bee prouoked by some meane to desire
+knowledge. O that god woulde yeoue them a couragious mynde
+too reade the gospel, there they shal sone fynde all the
+venoume of the romishe sort most playnely detected. Forsoth
+wee see dayly, that lacke of knowledge of the gospel maketh
+some busserdes runne hedlong on all rockes, daungers, &
+extreme perilles: yea, and beside that, olde popysh doctryne
+whiche lyeth folded vp & locked faste in their heartes,
+doeth so sore blynd thê that they haue neither fauour ne
+affectiõ too printe in their myndes, the expressed coûcels,
+admonitions, and || preceptes of the holy scripture, but
+too slepe stil in their owne conceites, dreames, & fonde
+phansies. Wherfore let your dignitie note well this, that
+all those whiche bee not wyllyng that gods woord should bee
+knowen, and that blyndenes should be clean expulsed from
+all men, whiche be baptised in ye blessed bludde of Christ,
+bewray themselues playne papistes: for in very deede that
+most deceatful wolfe and graund maister papist with his
+totiens quotiens, and a pena et culpa blesseth all suche
+as will bee blynde stil, maintaine his põpe, drinke of
+his cuppe of fornication, trust in his pardounes, liue
+in popery, ypocrisie, and dãnable ydolatrie, shut vp the
+kingdome of heauen, & neuer regarde the gospel. Cõtrarie too
+this, christ bi his holy Prophete calleth al those blessed
+that seke for his testimonies, al those his elect & chosê
+childrê, which turne frõ synne, ypocrisie, & ydolatrie, all
+those goddes that heare his word, yea, & breuely, al those
+which set it forward honorable mê. & in this puincte your
+grace shoulde euer beare in mynde, || that noble and
+vertuous kyng Hezekiah, whiche shewed hymselfe very
+honorable in settîg forward ye woord of God, and therby
+gotte hym glory and fame immortall, so that nowe he is most
+highly praysed amongtst all men. Ageyn his subiectes dyd
+obey his commaundement feynedly with Ypocrisie, but in their
+heartes they abhorred gods woord. O the miserie that dyd
+afterwarde sodeinly ensue vpon them, O the wonderfull
+wrath of God that was poured vpon them, O their great and
+obstinate blindnes whiche caused them most greuously too
+be scourged: Their plage was no lesse then too bee vtterly
+spoyled of their enemies, Their plage was no lesse then to
+eate one an other: Yea, their plage was no lesse then to
+eate their owne sonnes and doughters. This calamitie and
+sorow (most noble prynce) happened them because they dyd
+not regarde the lawes of God, but tourned too their olde
+abhominable Ydolatrie, and lightelye estemed gods holy
+woord. Wherfore euen now whosoeuer is an enemie ||B.i.|| to
+the holy Bible, that is, neither studiyng it himselfe, nor
+willyng that other men shulde knowe it, he can in no wyse be
+a right christian man: although he fast, pray, doo almes,
+& all the good workes vnder heauen. And he that hath suche a
+mynde, is ye most cursed and cruel enemie too god, a playne
+sower of sedition, and a deuelishe disquieter of all godly
+men. For truly those that reade the gospel of Christ, and
+labour diligêtly therin: doo fynde wonderfull rest &
+quietnes, from all woofull miserie, perturbatiõ, and
+vanities of this world. And surely none but ypocrites or els
+deuilles would go about too stoppe or allure men from suche
+a treasure and godly study. And it were conuenient, that all
+they whiche wyll remayne styll necligent, styffe, & blind:
+shuld set before their faces the feare of paynes infernall,
+and if thei haue any grace at all, their spirites ought to
+be moued: too note the great plages that haue happened the
+slouthful in gods woord, & those that haue been stubburne
+ageynst the settyng || out of it. There bee a thousand
+recordes and examples in the holy Bible agaynst such as be
+farre wyde from knowledge, and lye now walteryng styl in
+ignoraunce and will not looke vpon the bible. It woulde
+seme, they hope for a thyng, but their hope is in vaine:
+For saint Paule plainely writeth the hope of suche ypocrites
+shall coo[~m] too nought. And too conclude (most honorable
+Prince) seeyng wee haue suche knowledge opened vnto vs, as
+neuer had englishe mê, and are clearly deliuered from the
+snares and deceiptes of al false and wicked doctrine, if we
+shuld not now thãkefully receaue the gospell, and shewe our
+selues naturally enclyned to set it forwarde, yea, and pray
+daye and night vnto God, for the preseruatiõ and health of
+the kynges highnes, your graces deare, and most entierly
+beloued father, we were neither true subiectes nor ryght
+christen men. Forsoth, through the absolute wisedome, and
+the most godly and politike prudencie of his grace, the
+swete sounde of gods woorde is gone ||B.ii.|| thorough out
+all this realme, the holye Bible and blessed testament of
+oure sauiour Christ are coo[~m]ne to lighte, and thousandes
+haue faithfully receiued those pleasaunt, ioyfull, and most
+comfortable promises of God. Surely this thyng before all
+other, is acceptable too god. This thyng especially swageth
+ye ire of god. This thyng in all holi scriptures god most
+chiefly requireth of his elect & faithfull seruaûtes, euen
+too haue his lytell flocke knowe his blessed woorde, whiche
+woulde bee muche better knowê & more thankefulli receaued,
+yf al agees and degrees of men with one mynd, wyll, & voice,
+would nowe drawe after one lyne, leauyng their owne priuate
+affections, and shewe theim selues euer vigilant, prompt,
+& ready helpers & workers with God, (accordynge to
+the councell of sainct Paule) & especially priestes,
+scolemaisters & parêtes, which accordyng too ye Prophete
+Dauid are blessed, if they gladly requite ye lawe of God.
+They shuld therfore reade ye bible & purdge theyr mindes of
+al papistry: for theyr || necligence, in dooyng their duties
+& slugishnes toward ye blessed woord of god, dooeth too
+muche appere. Through them forsoth the gospel of Christ
+shuld bee most strongely warded and defended, for almost
+all the Prophetes, and a great parte of the scripture beside
+teache them their duties, and shew playnely what maner of
+men they shulde bee: Yea, and how greuously the holy
+Prophetes crie out vpon false and ignoraunt priestes, the
+thyng is very euident. But through the helppe of God all
+those that be ignoraunt, or els learned (as they take them
+selues) wyll leaue of, and repent them of their wicked and
+obstinate blyndnes, and bowe them selues with all
+oportunitie too draw mens heartes too the holy testament
+of God: consideryng, that in the terrible day of iudgement,
+euery mã shall yeoue accompte of his Beliwicke, where
+neither ignoraûce shall excuse vs, ne yet any worldly põpe
+may defêd vs. Most happye thê shall they bee, whiche haue
+walked iustely in the sight of the Lorde, and ||B.iii.||
+that haue syncerely preached his testament and lyuely woord
+withoute flattery or iuggelyng: Yea, and in that fearful
+day, all they (as writeth S. Augustine) shal fynde mercie
+at the handes of god, whiche haue entised and allured other
+vnto goodnes and vertue. Weiyng this with my self, (most
+excellent, and vnto all kynd of vertues most prõpt & prestãt
+Prince) I thought it good too translate this Dialoge, called
+the Epicure, for your grace: whiche semed too me, too bee
+very familiar, & one of ye godliest Dialoges that any mã
+hath writtê in ye latin tong. Now therfore I most humili
+praie, that this my rude & simple trãslation may bee
+acceptable vnto your grace, trustyng also that your most
+approued gentilnes, wil take it in good part. There as I
+doo not folow ye latyn, woord for woord, for I omytte that
+of a certaine set purpose.
+
+       _Your humile seruaunt, Philyppe_
+           Gerrard, groume of your
+                graces Chambre.
+
+       *       *       *       *       *
+
+              The interlocutours
+
+             {HEDONIVS} {SPVDEVS}
+
+What meaneth hit _Spudeus_, too applye hys booke so
+ernestlye I praye you what is the matter you murmour so with
+yourselfe? _SPVDEVS._ The truth is (O _Hedoni_) I seke too
+haue knowledge of a thing, but as yet I cannot fynde that
+whych maketh for my purpose. _HEDO_ What booke haue you
+there in your bosome? _SPVDE. Ciceros_ ||dialoge of the
+endes of goodnes. _HEDO._ It had bene farre more better for
+you, too haue sought for the begynnynges of godly thynges,
+then the endes. _SPVDE._ Yea, but _Marcus Tullius_ nameth
+that the ende of godlines which is an exquisite, a far
+passing, and a very absolute goodnes in euerye puincte,
+wherein there is contained all kynde of vertu: vnto the
+knowledge ther of whosoeuer can attaine, shuld desire none
+other thîg, but hold himselfe hauyng onely that, as one most
+fully content and satisfied. _HED._ That is a worke of very
+great learning and eloquence. But doo you thynke, that you
+haue preuailed in any thîg there, whereby you haue the
+||rather come too the knowledge of the truth? _SPE._ I
+haue had such fruite and cõmoditie by it, that now verelye
+hereafter I shall doubt more of the effect and endes of good
+thinges, then I did before. _HEDO._ It is for husbãd menne
+too stande in doubt how farre the limittes and merebãkes
+extend. _SPE._ And I cannot but muse styll, yea, and wonder
+very muche, why ther hath been so great controuersie in
+iudgementes vpon so weightie a matter (as this is) emongist
+so well learned menne: especially suche as bee most famous
+and auncient writers. _HEDO._ This was euen the cause, where
+the verite of a thyng is playne and manifest, cõtrarily, ye
+errour through || ignoraunce againe in the same, is soone
+great & by diuers meanes encreaseth, for that thei knewe not
+the foundation and first beginnyng of the whole matter, they
+doo iudge at all auentures and are very fondly disceaued,
+but whose sentence thynke you too bee truest? _SPE._ Whan
+I heare _MARCVS Tullius_ reproue the thyng, I then fãtasie
+none of all their iudgementes, and whan I heare hym agayne
+defende the cause: it maketh me more doubtfull thê euer I
+was and am in suche a studie, that I can say nothyng. But
+as I suppose ye Stoickes haue erred the lest, and nexte vnto
+thê I commend the _Peripatetickes_. _HEDo._ Yet I lyke none
+of their opinions || so well as I doo the Epicures. _SPV._
+And emõgist all the sectes: the _Epicures_ iudgement is most
+reproued and condemned with the whole consent and arbitremêt
+of all menne. _HED._ Let vs laye a side all disdayne and
+spite of names, and admitte the Epicure too bee suche one,
+as euery man maketh of hym. Let vs ponder and weighe the
+thyng as it is in very deed. He setteth the high and
+principall felicitie of man in pleasure, and thiketh that
+lyfe most pure and godly, whiche may haue greate delectatiõ
+and pleasure, and lytle pensiuenes. _SPV._ It is euen so.
+_HED._ What more vertuouser thyng, I praye you, is possible
+too bee spokê then this || saiyng. _Spu._ Yea, but all menne
+wonder and crye out on it, and saye: it is the voyce of a
+bruite beast, and not of manne. _Hedo._ I knowe thei doo so,
+but thei erre in ye vocables of theise thinges, and are very
+ignoraunt of the true and natiue significations of the
+woordes, for if wee speake of perfecte thynges, no kinde of
+menne bee more righter _Epicures_, then Christen men liuing
+reuerêtly towardes God and mã, and in the right seruice and
+worshiping of Christ. _SPV_ But I thinke the _Epicures_ bee
+more nerer and agree rather with the _Cynickes_, then with
+the Christien sorte: forsoth ye Christiens make them selues
+leane || with fastynge, bewayle and lament their offences,
+and eyther they bee nowe poore, or elles theyr charitie and
+liberalitie on the nedye maketh theim poore, thei suffer
+paciently to bee oppressed of mêne that haue great power and
+take many wronges at their handes, and many men also laughe
+theim too skorne. Nowe, if pleasure brynge felicitie wyth
+it, or helpe in anye wyse vnto the furderaunce of vertue:
+we see playnly that this kynde of lyfe is fardest from al
+pleasures. _Hedonius._ But doo you not admitte _Plautus_ too
+bee of authoritie? _Speudeus._ Yea, yf he speake vprightely.
+_Hedonius._ Heare nowe them, and beare awaye wyth you the
+saiynge of || an vnthriftie seruaunt, whyche is more wyttier
+then all the paradoxes of the Stoickes. _SPE._ I tarie
+to heare what ye wil say. _HEDO._ Ther is nothyng more
+miserable then a mynd vnquiet & agreued with it selfe.
+_SPE._ I like this saiyng well, but what doo you gather of
+it? _HEDO._ If nothing bee more miserable thê an vnquiet
+mynde, it foloweth also, that there is nothing happiar, then
+a mynde voyde of all feare, grudge, and vnquietnes. _SPEV._
+Surely you gather the thing together with good reasõ but
+that notwithstandynge, in what countrie shall you fynde any
+such mynde, that knoweth not it selfe gyltie and culpable in
+some kynde of euell, _HEDO._ || I call that euyll, whiche
+dissolueth the pure loue and amitie betwixt God and manne.
+_SPV._ And I suppose there bee verye fewe, but that thei bee
+offêders in this thynge. _HEDO._ And in good soth I take it,
+that al those that bee purdged, are clere: whych wiped out
+their fautes with lee of teares, and saltpeter of sorowfull
+repentaunce, or els with the fire of charitie, their offêces
+nowe bee not only smalle grefe and vnquietnes too them, but
+also chaunce oftê for some more godlier purpose, as causing
+thê too lyue afterward more accordyngly vnto Gods
+commaûdemêtes. _SPV._ In deede I knowe saltpeter and lee,
+but yet I neuer hearde before, that faultes || haue been
+purdged with fire. _H._ Surely, if you go to the minte you
+shall see gould fyned wyth fyre, notwithstãdyng that ther
+is also, a certaine kynde of linê that brenneth not if it
+bee cast in ye fyre, but loketh more whiter then any water
+coulde haue made it, & therefore it is called _Linum
+asbestinum_, a kynde of lynen, whyche canne neither bee
+quenched with water nor brent with fyre. _Spu._ Nowe in
+good faith you bring a paradox more wõderful then all the
+maruailous and profound thynges of the Stoickes: lyue thei
+pleasasauntly whom Chryst calleth blessed for that they
+mourne & lament? _Hedonius._ Thei seme too the worlde too
+mourne, but || verely they lyue in greate pleasure, and as
+the commune saiynge is, thei lyue all together in pleasure,
+in somuche that _SARDANAPALVS_, _Philoxenus_, or _Apitius_
+compared vnto them: or anye other spoken of, for the greate
+desyre and study of pleasures, did leade but a sorowefull
+and a myserable lyfe. _Spe._ These thinges that you declare
+bee so straunge and newe, that I can scarcelye yeoue any
+credite vnto them. _Hedo._ Proue and assaye them ones, and
+you shall fynde all my saiynges so true as the Gospell, and
+immediatly I shal bryng the thynge too suche a conclusion
+(as I suppose) that it shall appeare too differ very lytle
+from the truth ||C.i|| _SPV._ make hast then vnto your
+purpose. _HED._ It shalbe doone if you wyll graunt me
+certayne thynges or I begynne. _Spu._ If in case you
+demaunde suche as bee resonable. _Hedo._ I wyl take myne
+aduauntage, if you confesse the thyng that maketh for mine
+intent. _Spu._ go too. _Hedo._ I thynke ye wyll fyrste
+graunt me, that ther is great diuersitie betwxt the solle
+and the bodye _Spu._ Euen as much as there is betwene heauen
+and yearth, or a thyng earthly and brute, & that whiche
+dieth neuer, but alwayes cõtaineth in it the godly nature.
+_Hedo._ And also, that false deceiueable & coûterfetted holy
+thynges, are not too bee taken for those, which in very dede
+be || godly. _Spude._ No more then the shaddowes are too
+bee estemed for the bodies, or the illusions and wonders of
+wytchcraftes or the fantasies of dreames, are too bee taken
+as true thynges. _HE._ Hitherto you answer aptly too my
+purpose, and I thynke you wyl graunt me this thyng also,
+that true and godly pleasure can reste and take place no
+where but only on such a mynd that is sobree and honest.
+_SPV._ What elles? for no man reioyseth too beholde the
+Sunne, if his eyes bee bleared or elles delecteth in wyne,
+if the agew haue infected hys tast. _HED._ And the _Epicure_
+hymselfe, or elles I am disceiued, would not clippe &
+enbrace that pleasure, whiche ||C.ii.|| would bring with
+it farre greater payne and suche as would bee of long
+continuaunce. _SPV_ I thynke he woulde not, if he had any
+wytte at all. _HED._ Nor you wyll not denye this, that God
+is the chiefe and especiall goodnes, then whõ there is
+nothyng fayrer, there is nothyng ameabler, ther is nothing
+more delicious and swetter. _SPVDE._ No man wyll deny thys
+except he bee very harde hearted and of an vngentler nature
+then the _Ciclopes_. _HED._ Nowe you haue graunted vnto
+me, that none lyue in more pleasure, then thei whyche lyue
+vertuouslye, and agayne, none in more sorowe and calamytie
+then those that || lyue vngratiously. _Spu._ Then I haue
+graûted more thê I thought I had. _He._ But what thing you
+haue ones cõfessed too bee true (as _Plato_ sayth) you
+should not deny it afterward. _SPV._ Go furth with your
+matter. _HEDO_ The litle whelpe that is set store and greate
+price by, is fed most daintely, lieth soft, plaieth and
+maketh pastime continually, doo you thinke that it lyueth
+plesaûtly? _SPV._ It dooeth truely. _HEDO._ Woulde you wyshe
+to haue suche a lyfe? _SPV._ God forbyd that, excepte I
+woulde rather bee a dogge then a man, _HEDO._ Then you
+confesse that all the chief pleasures arise and spring
+frõ the mynd, as though it were from a welspryng. _SPV._
+||C.iii|| That is euident ynough. _HE._ Forsoth the strength
+and efficacy of the minde is so great, that often it taketh
+away the felyng of al externe and outward pain & maketh that
+pleasaunt, which by it selfe is very peynful. _SPV._ We se
+that dayly in louers, hauyng great delight to sytte vp long
+& too daunce attendaunce at their louers doores all the
+colde wynter nyghtes. _HEDo._ Now weigh this also, if the
+naturall loue of man, haue suche great vehemency in it,
+which is a cõmune thyng vnto vs, both with bulles and
+dogges, howe much more should all heauenly loue excell
+in vs, which cõmeth of ye spirit of Christ, whose strêgthe
+is of suche power, that it ||would make death a thîg most
+terrible, too bee but a pleasure vnto vs. _Spu._ What other
+men thîke inwardly I know not, but certes thei wãt many
+pleasures which cleaue fast vnto true and perfect vertue.
+_He._ What pleasures? _Spu._ Thei waxe not rich, thei optein
+no promotiõ, thei bãket not, thei daûce not, thei sing not,
+thei smell not of swete oyntmêtes, thei laugh not, thei
+play not. _He._ We should haue made no mention in thys
+place of ryches and prefermente, for they bryng wyth them
+no pleasaunt lyfe, but rather a sadde and a pêsiue. Let vs
+intreate of other thynges, suche as they chiefely seeke for,
+whose desyre is to liue deliciously, see ye not daily
+||C.iiii|| drõkerdes, fooles, and mad menne grinne and
+leape? _SPV._ I see it _HED._ Do you thynke that thei liue
+most pleasaûtly? _SPV_ God send myne enemies such myrth &
+pleasure. _HE._ Why so? _Sp._ For ther lacketh emongist thê
+sobrietie of mind. _HE._ Then you had leuer sit fastyng at
+your booke, then too make pastime after any suche sorte.
+_SP._ Of thê both: truly I had rather chose to delue.
+_H._ For this is plaine that betwixt the mad mã & the
+drûkerd ther is no diuersitie, but that slepe wil helpe the
+one his madnes, & with much a doo ye cure of _Physicions_
+helpeth the other, but the foole natural differeth nothing
+frõ a brute beast except by shape and portrature of body,
+yet thei || be lesse miserable whom nature hathe made verye
+brutes, then those that walowe theim selues in foule and
+beastly lustes. _SP._ I confesse that. _Hedo._ But now tell
+me, whether you thynke thê sobre and wyse, which for playn
+vanities and shadowes of plesure, booth dispice the true
+and godlye pleasures of the mynde and chose for them selues
+suche thynges as bee but vexacion & sorowe. _SPV._ I take
+it, thei bee not. _Hedo._ In deede thei bee not drûke with
+wyne, but with loue with anger, with auarice, with ambicion,
+and other foule and filthie desires, whiche kynde of
+drunkenes is farre worse, thê that is gotten with drinking
+of wine. Yet _Sirus_ that leude cõspaniõ ||of whom mention
+is made in ye commedie, spake witty thynges after he had
+slepte hym self soobre, and called too memorie his greate
+and moost beastlye drunkenes: but the minde that is infected
+with vicious & noughty desire, hath muche a doo too call it
+selfe whom agein? How many yeares doeth loue, anger, spite,
+sensualitie, excesse, and ambition, trouble and prouoke the
+mynde? How many doo wee see, whiche euen from their youth,
+too their latter dais neuer awake nor repêt them of the
+drunkennes, of ambitiõ, nigardnes, wanton lust, & riatte?
+_Spu._ I haue knowen ouermany of that sorte. _Hedo._ You
+haue graûted that false and fayned good || thinges, are not
+too bee estemed for the pure and godly. _Sp._ And I affirme
+that still. _Hedo._ Nor that there is no true and perfect
+pleasure, except it bee taken of honest and godly thynges.
+_Spud._ I confesse that. _He._ Then (I pray you) bee not
+those good that the commune sorte seeke for, they care not
+howe? _Spu._ I thinke they be not. _Hedo._ Surely if thei
+were good, they would not chaunce but onely too good men:
+and would make all those vertuous that they happen vntoo.
+What maner of pleasure make you that, doo you thinke it too
+bee godly, which is not of true & honest thynges, but of
+deceatfull: and coometh out of ye shadowes of good thynges?
+_Sp._ || Nay in noo wyse. _He._ For pleasure maketh vs to
+liue merely. _Spu._ Yea, nothyng so muche. _He._ Therfore
+no man truely liueth pleasauntly, but he that lyueth godly:
+that is, whiche vseth and delecteth onli in good thynges:
+for vertue of it selfe, maketh a man to habound in all
+thynges that bee good, perfete, & prayse worthy: yea, it
+onely prouoketh God the fountaine of all goodnes, too loue
+and fauour man. _SP._ I almost consent with you. _HED._
+But now marke howe far they bee from all pleasure, whiche
+seeme openly emongist all men too folowe nothyng, but the
+inordinate delectation in in thynges carnall. || First their
+mynde is vile, and corrupted with the sauour and taste of
+noughtie desires, in so muche that if any pleasaunt thing
+chaunce them, forthwith it waxeth bitter, and is nought set
+by, in like maner as where ye welle hed is corrupted and
+stynketh, there ye water must nedes be vnsauery. Agein ther
+is no honest pleasure, but that whiche wee receaue with a
+sobre and a quiet mynde. For wee see, nothyng reioyseth the
+angry man more, thê too bee reuenged on his offenders, but
+that pleasure is turned into pain after his rage bee past,
+and anger subdued. _Spu._ I say not the contrary.
+_He._ Finally, suche leude pleasures bee taken of fallible
+thinges, therefore || it foloweth that they be but delusiõs
+and shadowes. What woulde you say furthermore, if you saw
+a mã so deceaued with sorcerie & also other detestable
+witchecraftes, eat, drynke, leap, laugh, yea, and clappe
+handes for ioye, when ther wer no such thyng there in very
+dede, as he beleueth he seeth. _Spu._ I wolde say he were
+both mad and miserable. _Hedo._ I my self haue been often
+in place, where the lyke thyng hath been doone. There was
+a priest whiche knewe perfectly by longe experience and
+practise, the arte to make thynges seme that they were not,
+otherwise called, _deceptio visus_. _Sp._ He did not lerne
+that arte of the holy scripture? _Hedo._ Yea, || rather of
+most popeholy charmes and witchecraftes: that is too saye,
+of thinges, cursed, dampnable, and wourthy too bee abhorred.
+Certayne ladies & gentlewomen of the courte, spake vnto hym
+oftentimes: saiyng, they woulde coo[~m] one day too his
+house and see what good chere he kept: reprouyng, greatly
+vile and homly fare, and moderate expenses in all thynges.
+He graunted they shulde bee welcome, and very instauntly
+desired them. And they came fastyng because they would
+haue better appetites. Whã they wer set to dyner (as it was
+thought) ther wãted noo kynde of delitious meat: they filled
+thê selues haboûdantly: after ye feast was || doone, they
+gaue moost hearty thanckes, for their galaunte cheare, and
+departed, euery one of them vnto their owne lodgynges: but
+anone their stomackes beganne too waxe an hungred, they
+maruayled what this shuld meane, so soone to be an hungred
+and a thirste, after so sumptuous a feast: at the last the
+matter was openly knowen and laught at. _Spu._ Not without a
+cause, it had been muche better for thê too haue satisfied
+their stomackes at their owne chãbers with a messe of
+potage, thê too be fed so delitiousli with vain illusiõs.
+_H._ And as I thîk ye cõmune sort of men ar muche more too
+bee laught at, whiche in steede of Godlye thynges, ||chose
+vaine and transitory shadowes, and reioyce excedyngly in
+suche folishe phansies that turne not afterwarde in too
+a laughter, but into euerlasting lamentation and sorow.
+_Spudeus_ The more nerelier I note your saiynges, the better
+I like thê. _Hedo._ Go too, let vs graunt for a tyme these
+thynges too bee called pleasaunt, that in very dede ar not.
+Would yow saye that meeth were swete: whiche had more Aloes
+myngled with it, then honye? _Spud._ I woulde not so say and
+if there were but the third part of an ounce of Aloes mixt
+with it. _Hedo._ Or els, would you wishe to bee scabbed
+because you haue some pleasure too scratch? _Spud._ Noo, if
+I wer ||D.i|| in my right mynd. _HED._ Then weigh with your
+self how great peyne is intermyngled wyth these false and
+wrongly named pleasures, that vnshamefast loue filthie
+desire, much eatyng and drinking bring vs vnto: I doo omitte
+now that, which is principall grudge of cõscience, enemitie
+betwixt God and mã, and expectation of euerlastyng
+punishêment. What kynd of pleasure, I pray you is ther in
+these thinges, that dooeth not bryng with it a greate heape
+of outeward euilles? _SPV._ What bee thei? _HEDO._ We ought
+to let passe and forbeare in this place auarice, ambition,
+wrath, pryde enuy, whiche of their selues bee heuy and
+sorowful euylles and || let vs conferre and compare all
+those thynges together, that haue the name of some chief and
+special pleasure: wher as the agew the hedache, the swelling
+of the belly, dulnes of witte, infamy, hurt of memory,
+vomyting, decaye of stomacke, tremblyng of the body succede
+of ouer muche drynking: thynke you, that the _Epicure_ would
+haue estemed any suche lyke pleasure as thys, cõuenient and
+wourthy desire? _SPV._ He woulde saye it wer vtterly too bee
+refused. _HEDONi._ Wheras young men also with hauntynge of
+whores (as it is dayly seene) catche the newe leprosie, nowe
+otherwyse named Jobs agew, and some cal it the scabbes of
+Naples, throughe ||D.ii|| which desease they feele often ye
+most extreme and cruell paines of deathe euen in this lyfe,
+and cary about a bodye resemblyng very much some dead coarse
+or carryn, do you thynke that thei apply them selues vnto
+godlye pleasure. _SPVD._ Noo, for after thei haue been often
+familiar with their prety ones, then they must goo streighte
+too the barbours, that chaunceth continuallye vnto all
+whoremongers. _HED._ Now fayne that ther wer a lyke measure
+of pain and plesure, would ye then require too haue the
+toothache so longe as the pleasure of quaffing & whordome
+endured? _SPV._ Verely I had rather wãt them booth, for ther
+is no commoditie nor || vantage to bye pleasure with payn
+but only to chaûg one thing for another, but the best choise
+is nowe not too affectionate anye such leudnes, for _MAR.
+Tullius_ calleth that an inward greife & sorow. _He._ But
+now ye prouocation & entisemêt of vnleful plesure, besides
+that it is much lesse then the pain which it bringeth with
+it, it is also a thing of a very short time: but if the
+leprosye bee ones caught, it tourmêteth mê al their life
+daies very pitifully & oftentimes cõstraineth them to wyshe
+for death before thei cã dye. _SP._ Such disciples as those
+then, the _Epicure_ would not knowe. _HED._ For the most
+part pouertie, a very miserable and painfull burden,
+foloweth ||D.iii.|| lechery, of immoderate lust cõmeth the
+palsie, tremblyng of ye senewes, bleardnes of eyes, and
+blyndnes, the leprosie and not these only, is it not a
+proper pece of worke (I pray you) to chaûg this short
+pleasure neyther honest nor yet godly, for so manye euylles
+far more greuouse and of muche longer continuance.
+_SP._ Although there shoulde no pain com of it, I esteme
+hym to bee a very fond occupier, which would chaûge precious
+stones for glasse. _HE._ You meane that would lose the godly
+pleasures of the mynde, for the coloured pleasures of ye
+body. _SP._ That is my meanyng. _HE._ But nowe let vs come
+to a more perfecter supputation, neither the agewe || nor
+yet pouerty foloweth alwaies carnal pleasure, nor the new
+leprosy or els the palsy wait not on at al times the great &
+excessiue vse of lecherye, but grudge of cõsiêce euermore is
+a folower & sure companiõ of al vnleaful pleasure, then the
+which as it is plainly agreed betwixt vs, nothyng is more
+miserable. _SPV._ Yea, rather it grudgeth their cõscience
+sometyme before hande, & in the self pleasure it pricketh
+their mynde, yet ther bee some that you woulde say, want
+this motion and feelyng. _HE._ Thei bee nowe therfore in
+worse estate & cõditiõ. Who would not rather feele payne,
+then too haue hys body lacke any perfecte sence, truly from
+some ether intemperatnes ||D.iiii.|| of euel desires, euen
+like as it were a certayne kynde of drunkenes, or els wont
+and cõmune haunt of vice which ar so hardened in them, that
+they take a way ye felyng & cõsideration of euyl in their
+youth, so that whã agee commeth vpõ them beside other
+infinitie hurtes and perturbations agaynst whose commyng
+thei should haue layd vp the deedes of their former lyfe,
+as a special iuwel and treasure: then thei stande greatly in
+fear of death, a thyng emongist all other most ineuitable,
+& that no man canne shonne: yea, and the more they haue
+heretofore been dysmayed and lacked their sences, the
+greater now is their vnquietnes and grudge of || conscience,
+then truely the mynde is sodenly awaked whether it wol or
+noo, and verely wher as olde agee is alwayes sad and heuy
+of it selfe for as muche as it is in subiection and bondage
+vnto many incommodities of nature, but then it is farre more
+wretchede and also fylthye, if the mynde vnquiet with it
+selfe shal trouble it also: feastes, ryotous banketyng,
+syngyng, and daunsynge, with manye suche other wanton toyes
+& pastimes which he was communely yeouê vnto & thought very
+plesaût when he was young, bee nowe paynfull vnto hym beyng
+olde and crooked, ne agee hath nothyng too comforte and
+fortifi || it selfe withall, but onely too remembre that it
+hath passed ouer the course of yeares in vertue and godly
+liuyng and conceaue a special trust too obtaine herafter a
+better kynde of life. These be the two staues wherevpon age
+is stayed, & if in their steed you wyll lay on hym these
+two burdens: that is, memorie how synfully he hath ledde his
+life, and desperation of the felicitie that is too coome,
+I praye you what liuyng thyng can bee feyned too suffre
+sorer punishement and greater miserie? _spu._ Verely I can
+see nothyng although some man woulde saye an olde horse.
+_hedo._ Then to cõclude it is too late to waxe wise And that
+saiyng appereth now || too bee very true. Carefull mornynges
+doo oftentymes folowe mery euentides, and all vayne and
+outragious mirth euer turneth into sorowfull sighes: yea, &
+they shulde haue considered both that there is noo pleasure
+aboue ye ioyfulnes of the heart, and that chearefull mynde
+maketh agee too florishe, an heauy spirit consumeth the
+boones, & also that all the dayes of the poore are euell:
+that is, sorowfull and wretched. And agayne a quiet mynde is
+lyke a contynuall feaste. _SPVDEVS._ Therfore they bee wyse,
+that thryue in tyme, and gather too gether necessaries for
+that agee coo[~m]. _HEDONI._ The holy scripture intreateth
+not soo wordely || as too measure the felicitie and highe
+consolation of manne, by the goodes of fortune, onely he
+is very poore, that is destitute and voyde of al grace &
+vertue, and standeth in boundage and debette, bothe of bodye
+& solle vnto that tyranne oure moost foo & mortall enemie
+the deuill. _SPV._ Surely he is one that is veri rigorous
+and impatient in demaundynge of his dutie. _HE._ Moreouer
+that man is ryche, whiche fyndeth mercye and foryeouenes at
+the handes of god. What shuld he feare, that hath suche a
+protectour? Whether men? where as playnely theyr hole power
+may lesse do agaêst God, then the bytyng of a gnat, ||
+hurteth the Elephant. Whether death? truly that is a right
+passage for good men vnto all sufficient ioy and perfection
+accordyng too the iust reward of true religion and vertue.
+Whether hell? For as in that the holy prophete speaketh
+boldely vnto God. Although I shulde walke in the middest of
+the shadow of death, I wil not feare any euils because ye
+art with me. Wherfore shulde he stande in feare of deuils,
+whiche beareth in his heart hym, that maketh the deuils too
+tremble and quake. For in diuers places the holye scripture
+praiseth and declareth opêly the mynde of a vertuous man,
+too bee the right temple of God. And this to bee so true
+that || that it is not too bee spoken agaynst, ne in any
+wise shuld bee denied. _SPV._ Forsoth I can not see, by what
+reason these saiynges of yours can be confuted al thoughe
+they seme too varye muche from the vulgar and cõmune
+opinion of men. _HEDO._ Why doo they soo? _SPV._ After
+your reasonyng euery honest poore man, shulde liue a more
+pleasaunt life, then any other, how much soeuer he did
+haboûd in riches, honour, and dignitie: and breuely though
+he had all kynde of pleasures. _HE._ Adde this too it (if it
+please you) too bee a kyng, yea, or an emperour if you take
+away a quiet mynd with it selfe, I dare boldely say, that
+the poore man sklenderlye || and homely appareled, made
+weake with fastyng, watchyng, great toile and labour, and
+that hath scarcely a groat in all the worlde, so that his
+mynde bee godly, he lyueth more deliciously then that man
+whiche hathe fyue hûdreth times greater pleasures &
+delicates, then euer had _Sardanapalus_. _SP._ Why is it
+thê, that we see communely those that bee poore looke farre
+more heuely then riche men. _HED._ Because some of them bee
+twise poore, eyther some desease, nedines, watchyng, labour,
+nakednesse, doo soo weaken the state of their bodyes, that
+by reason therof, the chearefulnes of their myndes neuer
+sheweth it selfe, neyther in these thinges, || nor yet in
+their deathe. The mynde, forsooth thoughe it bee inclosed
+within this mortal bodye, yet for that it is of a stronger
+nature, it sõwhat trãsfourmeth and fascioneth the bodie
+after it selfe, especially if the vehement instigation of
+the spirit approche the violent inclination of nature: this
+is the cause we see oftentymes suche men as bee vertuous die
+more cherefully, then those that make pastyme contynually,
+& bee yeouê vnto all kynd of pleasures. _SP._ In very dede,
+I haue meruayled oftten at that thyng. _HED_ Forsoothe it is
+not a thyng too bee marueyled at, though that there shulde
+bee vnspeakeable || ioy and comforte where God is present,
+whiche is the heed of all mirth and gladnes, nowe this is
+no straunge thyng, althoughe the mynde of a godly man doo
+reioyce contynually in this mortall bodye: where as if the
+same mynde or spirit discended into the lowest place of hell
+shuld lose no parte of felicitie, for whersoeuer is a pure
+mynd, there is god, wher God is: there is paradise, ther is
+heauen, ther is felicitie, wher felicitie is: ther is the
+true ioy and synsere gladnes. _SP._ But yet they shuld liue
+more pleasauntly, if certein incommodities were taken from
+them, and had suche pastymes as eyther they dispise orels
+can not get nor attaine vnto. _HE._ ||E.i.|| (I praye you)
+doo you meane, suche incommodities as by the commune course
+of nature folow the cõdition or state of mã: as hunger,
+thirst, desease, werynes, age, death, lyghtnyng yearthquake,
+fluddes & battail? _SPV._ I meane other, and these also.
+_HEDO._ Then we intreate styll of mortal thynges and not of
+immortal, & yet in these euils the state of vertuous men,
+may bee better borne withal, then of suche as seeke for the
+pleasures of the body they care not howe. _SPV._ Why so:
+_HEDO._ Especyally because their myndes bee accustomed and
+hardened with most sure and moderate gouernaunce of reason
+against al outragious affections of the mind || and they
+take more patiently those thynges that cannot bee shonned
+then the other sort doo Furthermore, for as muche as thei
+perceiue, all such thynges ar sent of god, either for the
+punishment of their faultes, or els too excitate and sturre
+them vp vnto vertue, then thei as meeke and obediente
+chyldren receiue them from the hãd of their mercifull
+father, not only desireously, but also chearefully and
+geue thankes also, namely for so merciful punyshment and
+inestimable gaines. _SPV._ But many doo occatiõ griefes
+vnto thê selues. _HEDO._ But mo seeke remedye at the
+_Phisicions_, either to preserue their bodies in helth or
+elles if they bee sycke, too ||E.ii.|| recouer health, but
+willyngly too cause their owne sorowes, that is, pouertie,
+sickenes, persecution, slaunder, excepte the loue of God
+compel vs therto, it is no vertue but folishnes: but as
+often as thei bee punyshed for Christ and iustice sake,
+who dar bee so bold as too cal them beggers & wretches?
+whã the Lord himself very famyliarly calleth them blessed,
+and commaûdeth vs to reioyse for their state and condition.
+_SPV._ Neuerthelesse, these thynges haue a certayne payne
+and griefe. _HEDO._ Thei haue, but on the onesyde, what for
+fear of hel, and the other for hoope of euerlastynge ioye,
+the payne is sone past and forgottê Now tell me if you
+knewe that || you myghte neuer bee sycke, or elles that you
+shoulde feele no payne of your body in your life tyme, if
+you woulde but ones suffer your vtter skinne too bee prycked
+with a pynnes puinct, would you not gladly and with all your
+very heart suffer then so lytle a payne as that is?
+_SPV_ Verye gladlye, yea, rather if I knewe perfectlye
+that my teeth would neuer ake, I would willynglye suffer
+too bee prycked depe with a nedle, and too haue both mine
+eares bored through with a bodkin. _HEDO._ Surely what payne
+soeuer happeneth in this lyfe, it is lesse and shorter,
+compared with the eternall paines, then is the soden pricke
+of a needle, incomparisõ of the ||E.iii.|| lyfe of man
+though it bee neuer so long, for there is no conuenience or
+proportion of the thyng that hath ende, and that whych is
+infinite. _SPV._ You speake very truly. _HEDO._ Now if a man
+coulde fully perswade you, that you should neuer feele payne
+in al your life, if you did but ones deuide the flame of ye
+fyre, with your hande, whyche thyng vndoughtely _Pithagoras_
+forbade, woulde you not gladlye doo it? _SPV._ Yea, on that
+condicion I had liefer doo it an hundred times, if I knew
+precisely the promiser would kepe touch. _HE._ It is playne
+God cannot deceaue. But now that feelyng of paine in the
+fyre is longer vnto the whole lyfe of man, then is the
+||lyfe of mã, in respect of the heauenlye ioye, althoughe
+it were thrise so long as ye yeares of _Nestor_, for that
+casting of the hand in the fyre thoughe it bee neuer so
+shorte, yet it is some parte of hys lyfe, but the whole
+lyfe of man is noo portion of tyme in respect of the eternal
+lyfe. _SPV._ I haue nothyng too saye against you.
+_HEDO._ Doo you then thyncke that anye affliction or
+tourment can disquiet those that prepare them selues wyth a
+chearful hearte and a stedfast hoope vnto the kyngedome of
+God, wher as the course of this lyfe is nowe so shorte?
+_SPVDE._ I thinke not, if thei haue a sure perswasion and a
+constant hope too attayne it. _HEDO._ I coome ||E.iiii.|| now
+vnto those pleasures, whiche you obiected agaynst me, they
+do wythdrawe them selues from daunsynge, bankettynge, from
+pleasaunte seeghtes, they dispyce all these thynges, as
+thus: for to haue the vse of thinges farre more ioyfulle,
+and haue as great pleasure as these bee, but after another
+sorte: the eye hath not seene, the eare hath not heard,
+nor the heart of man cannot thyncke what consolations _GOD_
+hathe ordeined for them that loue hym. Sayncte Paule knewe
+what maner of thynges shoulde bee the songes, queeres,
+daunsynges, and bankettes of vertuous myndes, yea, in this
+lyfe. _SPVDEVS_ but there bee some leafull || pleasures,
+whyche they vtterlye refuse. _HEDONIVS._ That maye bee, for
+the immoderate vse of leafull and godly games or pastymes,
+is vnleaful: and if you wyll excepte this one thing onlye,
+in al other thei excelle whiche seeme too leade a paynfull
+lyfe, and whome we take too bee ouerwhelmed with all kynd of
+miseries. Now I prai you what more roialler sight can ther
+be, then ye cõtêplatiõ of this world? and such men as ye be
+in fauour of god keping his holy cõmaûdemêtes & loue his
+most blessed testamêt, receiue far geater pleasure in the
+syght therof, then thother sorte doo, for while thei behold
+wyth ouercurious eyes, ye wõderful worke, their mynde || is
+troubled because they can not compasse for what purpose he
+doeth such thinges, then thei improue the moost righte and
+wise gouernour of all and murmour at his doinges as though
+they were goddes of reprehension: and often finde faute with
+that lady nature, and saye that she is vnnaturall, whiche
+taunt forsooth with as muche spite as can bee shewed with
+woordes, greueth nature: but truely it reboundeth on hym,
+that made nature, if there bee any at all. But the vertuous
+man with godly & simple eyes beholdeth with an excedyng
+reioyce of heart the workes of his Lorde and father highly
+praysyng thê all, and neither reprehêdeth nor || findeth
+faut with any of thê, but for euery thyng yeoueth moste
+hearty thankes, when he considereth that al were made for
+the loue of man. And so in al thynges, he praieth vnto the
+infinite power, deuine wisedome, & goodnes of the maker,
+wherof he perceiueth moste euident tokens in thynges that
+bee here created. Now fain that there were suche a palace in
+verie deede as _Apuleus_ faineth, or els one that were more
+royall and gorgeouse, and that you shoulde take twoo thither
+with you too beholde it, the one a straunger, whiche gooeth
+for this intent onely too see the thyng, and the other the
+seruaût or soonne of hym that firste causeth this buyldyng,
+whether || will haue more delectie in it? the straunger, too
+whom suche maner of house dooeth nothyng appartain, or the
+soonne whiche beholdeth with greate ioye and pleasure, the
+witte, riches, and magnificence of his deerely beloued
+father, especially when he dooeth consider all this worke
+was made for his sake. _Sp._ Your question is too plain:
+for they most cõmunely that bee of euill condicions, knowe
+that heauen and all thinges contained therin, were made for
+mannes sake. _HEDO._ Almoste al knowe that, but some dooe
+not remembre it, shewyng thêselues vnthãkeful for the great
+and exhuberãt benefittes of god, & al though thei remember
+it, yet that mã taketh || greater delight in the sight of it
+whiche hath more loue vnto the maker therof, in like maner
+as, he more chearfully wyll behold the element whiche
+aspireth towarde the eternall life. _SPV._ Your saiynges
+are muche like too bee true. _HED._ Nowe the pleasures of
+feastes dooeth not consist in the delicates of the mouth,
+nor in the good sauces of cookes, but in health of body
+and appetite of stomacke. You may not thynke that any
+delicious person suppeth more pleasauntly hauyng before hym
+partriches, turtelles, leuerettes, bekers, sturgeon, and
+lamprayes: then a vertuous man hauyng nothîg too eat, but
+onely bread potage, or wortes: and nothyng || too drynke,
+but water, single bere, or wyne well alayde, be cause he
+taketh these thinges as prepared of God vnto all lyuyng
+creatures, and that they bee now yeouê vnto him of his
+gentyll and mercifull father, praier maketh euery thyng
+too sauour well. The petition in ye begynnyng of dyner
+sanctifieth all thynges and in a while after there is
+recited some holy lesson of the woorde of God: whiche more
+refresheth the minde, then meate the body, and grace after
+all this. Finally he riseth from the table, not ful: but
+recreated, not laden, but refreshed: yea, refreshed both in
+spirit and bodie, thynke you that any chief deuiser of these
+muche vsed bãkets, & || deintye delicaces fareth nowe more
+deliciously? _SPudeus._ But in _Venus_ there is greate
+delectacions if we beleue _Arestotell_. _Hed._ And in this
+behalfe the vertuous manne far excelleth as well as in good
+fare, wiegh you now the matter as it is, the better a manne
+loueth his wife, the more he delecteth in the good felowship
+and familiaritie that is betwene theim after the course
+of nature. Furthermore, no menne louê their wiues more
+vehemêtly then thei that loue theim euê soo, as Christ loued
+the churche. For thei that loue thê for the desire of bodely
+pleasure, loue thê not. More ouer, the seldomer any man
+dooeth accompany with his wife, the greater pleasure, it ||
+is to hym afterwarde, and that thyng the wãtõ poete knew
+full well whiche writeth, rare and seldome vse stereth vp
+pleasures. Albeit, the lest parte of pleasure is in the
+familiare company betwene theim. There is forsothe far
+greater in the continuall leadyng of their liues too gether,
+whiche emongest none can be so plesaunt as those that loue
+syncerely and faithfully together in godly and christian
+loue, and loue a like one the other. In the other sort, oftê
+whêthe pleasure of ye body decaieth & waxeth old loue waxeth
+coold & is sone forgottõ, but emõgest right christê mê, the
+more ye the lust of ye flesh decreaseth & vanisheth away,
+ye more thê al godly loue encreseth || Are you not yet
+perswaded that none lyue more pleasauntly thê they whiche
+liue continually in vertue and true religiõ of god?
+_SP._ Would god all men were as well perswaded in that
+thyng. _He._ And if they bee Epicures that lyue pleasauntli:
+none bee righter Epicures then they that liue vertuously,
+and if we wyll that euery thyng haue it right name none
+deserueth more ye cogname of an Epicure, then that Prince of
+all godly wisedome too whõ most reuerêtly we ought alwaies
+too praye: for in the greeke tonge an Epicure signifieth
+an helper. Nowe whan the lawe of nature was first corrupted
+with sinne, whê the law of Moses did rather prouoke euil
+desires ||F.i.|| then remedy them. Whã the tyraunte Sathanas
+reygned in this worlde freely and wythout punishement, then
+thys prynce onely, dyd sodenlye helpe mankynde redy to
+perishe: wherfore thei erre shamefully which scoff and
+bable that _CHRIST_ was one that was sadd and of a
+malancolye nature, & that he hath prouoked vs vnto an
+vnpleasaunt kynde of lyfe, for onely he did shewe a kind
+of liuing most godly and fullest of al true pleasure, if
+we might haue the stone of _Tantalus_ taken awaye from vs.
+_SPVD._ What darke saiyng is this? _EDO._ It is a mery tale
+too laugh at, but this bourd induceth verye graue and sadde
+thynges. _SPV._ I tary too heare ||this mery conceite, that
+you name too bee so sage a matter. _HE_ Thei whiche gaue
+their studye and diligence to colour and set furth the
+preceptes of Philosophie wyth subtil fables, declare that
+there was one _Tantalus_ broughte vnto the table of the
+goddes, whych was euer furnished wyth all good fare, and
+most nete and sumptuous that myght bee, whan thys straunger
+shoulde take hys leave, Iupyter thought it was for his great
+liberalitie and highe renoume, that his guest shuld not
+depart wythout some rewarde, he wylled him therfore too
+aske what he woulde, and he shoulde haue it: _Tantalus_
+(forsooth) lyke a verye leude and foolyshe person, ||F.ii.||
+for that he sette all the felicitie and pleasure of man in
+the delectation of the bely, and glotonye, desired but
+only too sytte at suche a table all the dayes of hys life,
+Iupiter graunted him his desire, and shortly his vow was
+there stablished and ratifyed. _Tantalus_ nowe sytteth at
+the table furnyshed wyth all kindes of delicates, such
+drinke as the goddes druncke of was set on the table, and
+there wanted no rooses nor odours that could yeoue any swete
+smel before the Goddes, _Ganymedes_ the buttler or one lyke
+vnto hym, standeth euer redye, the _Muses_ stande rounde
+aboute syngyng pleasauntly, mery _Silenus_ daunseth, ne ther
+wanted noo fooles || too laugh at, and breuely, there was
+euerye thynge that coulde delyght any sence of mã but
+emongist all these, _Tantalus_ sytteth all sadde, syghyng,
+and vnquiet with hym selfe, neither laughing nor yet
+touching such thynges as were set before hym _SPVDE._ What
+was the cause? _HED._ Over his head as he sate there hãged
+by an heere a great stone euer lyke too fall. _SPV._ I
+woulde then haue conueied my selfe from suche a table.
+_HEDO_ But his vowe had bound hym too the contrarye, for
+Iupyter is not so easye too intreate as oure _GOD_, which
+dooeth vnloose the pernitious vowes of menne, that bee made
+contrary vnto his holy woord, if thei bee ||F.iii.|| penitent
+and sorye therfore, or elles it myght bee thus, the same
+stoone that woulde not suffer hym too eate, would neither
+suffer hym to ryse, for if he had but ones moued he shuld
+haue been quashed al in peeses with the fall thereof.
+_SPVDE._ You haue shewed a very mery fable _HEDON._ But nowe
+heare that thing, which you wil not laugh at: the commune
+people seeke too haue a pleasaunt life in outwarde thynges,
+where as noothyng can yeoue that, but onely a constant and a
+quiet mind: for surely a far heuier stone hangeth ouer these
+that grudge with them selues, then hanged ouer _Tantalus_:
+it only hangeth not ouer them, but greueth and || oppresseth
+the mynde, ne the mind is not troubled wyth any vayn hoope,
+but looketh euery houre to bee caste in too the paynes of
+hell, I praye you what can bee so pleasaunt emongist all
+thinges that bee yeouen vnto man, that coulde reioyse the
+mynde, whyche were oppressed wyth suche a stoone?
+_SPVDE._ Truely there is nothyng but madnes, or elles
+incredulitie. _HEDO._ Yf younge menne woulde weygh these
+thynges, that bee quyckly prouoked and entised with pleasure
+as it were wyth the cuppe of _Circes_, whiche in steade of
+theyr greatest pleasures receiue poysone myxte with honye.
+Howe circumspecte would they bee too doo anye thynge
+||F.iiii|| vnaduisedly that shoulde grudge their mindes
+afterward? What thinge is it that thei would not doo too
+haue suche a godly treasure in store against their latter
+daies? that is a minde knowyng it selfe cleane & honest and
+a name that hath not been defiled at any time. But what
+thyng now is more miserable then is agee? Whan it beholdeth,
+and loketh backward on thinges that be past seeth plainly
+with great grudg of conscience howe fayre thynges he hathe
+despiced and sette lyght by, (that is, howe farre he hath
+discented and gone astray from the promyses made vnto God in
+baptime) & agayn, how foule & noughty thîges he hath clipped
+and enbraced, and whã || hee looketh forwarde, hee seeth
+then the daye of iudgemente drawe neere, and shortely after
+the eternall punyshemente of of hell. _SPVDE._ I esteme
+theim most happie whych haue neuer defyled theyr youthe,
+but euer haue increased in vertu, til thei haue coomne vnto
+the last puincte of age. _HEDO._ Next them thei ar too bee
+commended that haue wythdrawne theim selues from the folie
+of youth in tyme. _SPVDE._ But what councel wil you yeoue
+agee that is in suche great myserie. _HEDO._ No man shoulde
+dispayre so long as life endureth, I wyl exhorte him to
+flee for helpe vnto the infinitie mercye & gentilnes of God.
+_SP._ But the longer that he hath liued || the heape of his
+synnes hath euer waxen greate and greater, so that nowe it
+passeth the nomber of the sandes in the sea, _HE_ But the
+mercies of our lord far excede those sãdes, for although the
+sande can not bee numbred of manne, yet hit hath an ende,
+but the mercie of God neither knoweth ende, ne measure.
+_SP._ Yea but he hath no space that shall dye by and by,
+_HEDONI._ The lesse tyme he hath the more feruêtly he should
+cal vnto god for grace, that thyng is long inough before
+God, whiche is of suche power as too ascende from the yearth
+vnto heauê, for a short prayer forsoth streght entreth
+heauê, if it bee made with a vehemêt spirit. It is written,
+that || ye womã synner spoken of in the gospell did penaunce
+al her life dayes: but with how fewe wordes again did the
+thief obtain Paradise in the houre of death? If he will
+crye with hearte and mynde, God haue mercie on me after
+thy great mercie: God wil take awaye from hym _Tantalus_
+           stone and yeoue in his hea-
+              ryng ioye and cõfort
+                and his bones hu-
+                 miled throughe
+                 cõtrition, wil
+                    reioyse
+                     that
+                      he
+                hath his synnes
+                   foryeouen
+                      hym.
+
+                    *FINIS.*
+
+       *       *       *       *       *
+
+         Imprinted at London within the
+      precinct of the late dissolued house
+        of the gray Friers, by Richarde
+            Grafton, Printer too the
+                 Princes grace.
+                   the. XXIX.
+             daie of Iuly, the yere
+                 of our Lorde.
+                    M.D.XLV.
+
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+           *       *       *       *
+       *       *       *       *       *
+
+[Typographic Errors:
+  arabic numeral = unnumbered page
+    _v_ = verso (back of page)
+
+A.5 _v_
+  most blessed Testament
+    _was_ bessed
+B.5 _v_ - B.6
+  then this || saiyng.
+    _end of B.5v reads_ sai-/yng _including catchword_
+C.7 _v_
+  in too a laughter
+    _was_ in too a/a laughter _at line break_
+D.7 _v_
+  where god is present
+    _was_ where god is/is present _at line break_
+E.iii
+  it is no vertue but folishnes: but as often as thei bee punyshed
+    _was_ it is no-/vertue _at line break_
+    _and_ but as of-/often _at line break_
+E.8 _v_ - F.i
+  rather prouoke euil desires || then remedy them
+    _end of E.8v reads_ thê/reme _including catchword_
+F.i _v_
+  to colour and set furth the preceptes
+    _was_ set-/furth _at line break_
+F.ii _v_
+  breuely, there was
+    _was_ breuely, there/there was _at line break_
+
+Irregularities in text (not changed):
+
+D.5
+  the two staues wherevpon age is stayed
+    _text reads_ ...where-/vpon _at line break_
+
+D.6
+  oure moost foo & mortal enemie
+    _unchanged_: ?fool (foul)
+
+
+Mismatched catchwords (text uses second form):
+
+C.iiii - C.iiii _v_
+    [bee] || be
+C.7 _v_ - C.8
+    [done] || doone
+D.iiii _v_ - D.5
+    [hym] || it
+D.8 - D.8 _v_
+    [ioye] || ioy
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+    [I] || (I...
+E.ii _v_ - E.iii
+    [life] || lyfe
+E.iii _v_ - E.iiii
+    [nowe] || now
+E.iiii - E.iiii _v_
+    plea-[sure] || sures
+E.5 - E.5 _v_
+    [fyndeth] || findeth
+E.7 - E.7 _v_
+    [deyntie] || deintye
+F.iiii - F.iiii _v_
+    [he] || hee
+F.5 - V.5 _v_
+    [the] || [ye] ]
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+The Project Gutenberg EBook of A Very Pleasaunt & Fruitful Diologe Called
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+Title: A Very Pleasaunt & Fruitful Diologe Called the Epicure
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+<p>[Transcriber's note:</p>
+
+<p>The printed text marks the first few leaves of each 16-page
+signature: A.i., A.ii... Other page breaks are marked in this
+e-text with a single line | .</p>
+
+<p>In the original text, the dialogue was printed as one continuous
+block. This e-text has placed each speaker on a new line.</p>
+
+<p>A few apparent typographic errors were corrected and are marked
+<ins class = "correction" title = "explanation will pop up">like
+this</ins>. Some additional problems are marked in the same way
+but were left unchanged. All other spelling, capitalization and
+punctuation are as in the original.]</p>
+<br>
+<hr>
+
+<p align = "center"><span class = "headline1">
+<span class = "roman"><i>A</i> VE-</span><br>
+ry pleasaunt &amp;<br>
+fruitful Dio-<br>
+loge called the<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Epicure</span>,</span><br>
+<span class = "headline2">made by that fa-<br>
+mous clerke Eras<br>
+mus of Rotero-<br>
+dame, newly<br>
+translated.<br>
+<br>
+1545.</span></p>
+
+
+
+<hr>
+<br>
+<p align = "center"><span class = "italics">S. Paule to the Ephesians<br>
+<br>
+You that haue professed Christ,<br>
+suffre not your selues to be deceyued<br>
+vvith false doctrine, nor vaine<br>
+and noughtie talkyng, but herken<br>
+vnto all Godly thynges, and<br>
+especially too the doctryne<br>
+of the Gospell.</span></p>
+<br>
+<hr>
+<span class = "pagenum">A.ii.</span>
+<br>
+<p align = "center"><span class = "italics">THE HABOVN-<br>
+daunt mercie and grace of our</span><br>
+<span class = "headline2">heauenly father Iesu Christ,<br>
+maye alwaies strengthen<br>
+and defende oure noble</span><br>
+&amp; vertuous Prynce Ed-<br>
+ward too the mainte-<br>
+naunce of the liue-<br>
+ly woord of<br>
+God.</p>
+<br>
+<br>
+<p><img src = "images/w03.png" border = "0" align = "left"
+hspace = "5" width = "216" height = "235" alt = "W">
+<span class = "italics">HERE</span> as manye histories of olde
+&amp; auncient antiquitie, and
+also al godly &amp; Christiã writers most playnely consêt
+together, and agree in this, that dignitie, riches, kinred,
+worldly pompe, and renoume, doo neither make men better, ne
+yet happiar, contrarie too the blynde &amp; fonde iudgement of
+the most part of menne: but by the power and strength of the
+mynde, that is, learnyng, wysedome,
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>and vertue, all
+menne are hyghly enriched, ornated, &amp; most purely beutified,
+for these bee thinges bothe notable, eternall, and verye
+familiar betwene the heauenly father &amp; vs. It is therefore
+euidente (most excellent Prince) that the fittest ornamêtes
+for your graces tender age, bee, eruditiõ and vertue.
+Wherunto you are bothe so ernestly addicte and therin so
+wõderfully doo preuaile, that I nede not too exhorte &amp;
+exstimulate your grace vnto the study thereof. For that God
+him self hath wrought, and fourmed your mynde so apt and
+desirous too attayne and diligêtly too seeke for al godly
+doctrine, that euê now you doo shewe in all youre saiynges
+and dooinges suche a wonderfull pleasaûtes much lyke vnto a
+certayne swete musike or harmonie, that any honest hart
+exceadinglye woulde reioyce in the sight therof. Verely,
+your grace thinketh plainly all time lost, that is not
+bestowed vpon learnyng, which is a verie rare thyng in anye
+childe, and rarest of all in a Prince. Thus youre noblenes,
+rather desireth vertue and
+<span class = "pagenum">A.iii.</span>learning the most
+surest and excellent treasures, which farre surmounte all
+worldly ryches, then anye vanities or trifles. Nowe youre
+grace prepareth for the holsome and pleasaunt foode of the
+mynde. Now you seke for that whiche you shal fynd most
+surest helper and faythfulst councellour in all your
+affaires. Now your magnificêt mynde studieth that, whiche
+all Englyshe menne with meke and humile heartes shuld desire
+GOD to endue your grace with all. Now with diligent labour
+you searche for a thyng, as one most myndeful of this
+saiyng: Happy is that realme that hath a lerned Prince. Nowe
+you trauaile for that, whiche conquereth, and kepeth doune
+all greuous tourmentes &amp; outragious affections of the mynde,
+too the furderaunce of good liuyng, and maintenaûce of
+vertue, I meane holsome erudition and learnyng. Many Heathen
+Princes forsoth, are highly magnified with most ample
+prayses, which gaue them selues too the study of
+Philosophie, or knowledge of tongues, for their owne
+commoditie, and
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>especially
+for the weale of their
+subiectes. Who is nowe more celebrated and worthelier
+extolled then Mithridates? that noble kyng of Pont and
+Bithinia, which, (as Aulus Gellius writeth) vnderstoode so
+perfitly the languages of .xxii. sondrye countries that were
+vnder his dominiõ, that he neuer vsed any interpretour too
+answer his subiectes, but spake their lãguages so finelye,
+as thoughe he had been of the same coûtrie. Ageyn, that
+honorable manne Quintus Ennius saied: that he had .iii.
+heartes, because he coulde speake Greke, Italian, and Latin.
+Yea, and breuely, the most famaus writers, as well the
+Heathen, as the Christien, with an vniuersall consent,
+playnly affirme: Whan thei had weied the nature and condiciõ
+of the purest thinges vnder heauen, thei sawe nothyng faire,
+or of any pryce, or that ought too be accõpted ours, but
+onely vertue and learning. Euen now too acknowledge that
+same, it is yeouê you from aboue, for your grace delecteth
+in nothyng more then too bee occupied in the holye Byble:
+wherin, <span class = "pagenum">A.iiii.</span>you beginne
+too sauer &amp; smelle furth the
+treasure of wisedome, knowledge and fulnes of the deuyne
+power, that is a studie most conuenient for euery Christien
+Prince, that kynd of studye cannot haue sufficient laude and
+commendation. Whose Princely heart forsoth, is raueshed on
+suche a godlie and vertuous studie, it can neuer haue
+condigne and worthie praises, but deserueth alwaies too bee
+had in great price, estimation, and honour. Who dooeth not
+know? that Prince which is yeouen vnto the scriptures of God
+and with a stoute stomake and valiãt heart, both searcheth
+furth and also defendeth y<sup>e</sup> true doctrine of the Gospell,
+too bee inrolled in the assemble of Christ. Who dooeth not
+see? that Prince too bee moost surelye armed, which carieth
+in his heart the swerd of y<sup>e</sup> spirit, which is the blessed
+woord of God. Who is ignoraunt? that euer lastyng lyfe
+consisteth in the knoweledge of God. What Prince woulde not
+studie to maintaine that, which is written for the health,
+and saluation of all menne weiyuge with himselfe
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>that a
+Prince can not deserue, neither by conquest, ciuel policie,
+nor yet by anye other meane vnder heauen, thys name high or
+honorable, so wourthely as by the setting forward of Goddes
+woorde. What young Prince humily defendyng doune intoo him
+selfe and callyng to memory his bounden dutie woulde not
+with a glad hearte and a chearfull mynde, gredelye desyre
+too knowe, enlarge, and amplifie the glory and maiestie of
+hys derely beloued father? Your grace (forsoth) hath
+professed God too bee your father: Blessed are you then if
+you obey vnto hys word, and walke in his waies. Blessed are
+you, yf you supporte suche as preache the Gospell. Blessed
+are you, yf your mind bee full furnished with the testament
+of Christ, and shew your selfe too bee the most cruel too
+and enemy agaynst ypocrisie, supersticion, and all
+papistical phantasies, wherw<sup>t</sup> the true religion of God
+hathe been dusked and defaced these many yeres Blessed are
+you, if you reade it daye &amp; nighte, that your grace maye
+knowe what GOD dooeth forbyd you, and
+<span class = "pagenum">A.v.</span>euer submit
+your selfe therunto with seruiceable lowlines chiefly
+desiring to florysh and decke your mynd with godly
+knowledge. And most blessed are you, if you apply your self
+vnto al good workes, &amp; plant surely in your heart the
+scriptures of Christ, If you thus doo, nether the power of
+any papistical realme, nor yet of hel can preuaile at any
+time against your grace. Nowe therfore, with humile hearte,
+faithfully receiue the swete promises of the Gospel. If you
+kepe the woordes of the Lorde and cleaue fast vnto them:
+there is promised you the kingdome of heauen: You are
+promised a weale publick most riche and welthy You are
+promised too bee deliuered from the deceiptes of all youre
+priuie enemyes. You are promised also, too conquere great
+and mightie nations. Agayne, let your grace bee most fully
+perswaded in this, that ther was neuer Kyng nor Prince, that
+prospered whiche tooke parte against Goddes woord, and that
+the greatest abhomination that can bee, either for Kyng,
+Prince, or any other manne, is too
+for<span class = "pagenum">|</span>sake the true
+woord of God. O with howe rebukefull woordes &amp;amp; greuous
+iudgement thei be condemned, which dispice &amp; set lytle by
+the holy Byble &amp; most
+<ins class = "correction" title = "text reads 'bessed'">blessed</ins>
+Testamêt of God, wherin there
+is contained all the wil &amp; pleasure of our heauêly father
+toward vs most miserable &amp; ignoraunt wretches Who would not
+quake, too beholde the terrible feares &amp; threatenynges of
+God ageinst al suche? Who would not lament &amp; gladly helppe
+their obstinate blyndenes? Who woulde not weepe? to heare
+and reade in how many places, they be openly accursed by the
+scriptures of Christ. God him self playnely affirmeth, that
+he wyll sodênly consume them with the breath of his anger.
+Yea, besides that whoso euer declyneth from the word of God
+is accursed in all his doynges, whether he be Kyng, or
+Prynce, riche, or poore, or of what estate soeuer he bee.
+This fearfull saiyng (most excellent Prynce) shulde moue all
+men to take hede vnto their duties and to praie that gods
+word maie take place emõgist vs. O that al men would
+fanta<span class = "pagenum">|</span>sie the scriptures of God,
+and saye w<sup>t</sup> the vertuous man
+Iob. Wee will not bee ageynst the woordes of the holy one.
+Truth it is, God taketh diligent care too haue vs al know
+his woord. Woulde God therfore, that all wee were now
+willing to haue the syncere woorde of God &amp; all holsom
+doctrine too go forward. O that all we would consent
+togither in the Gospell, brotherly admonishyng, and
+secretelye prouokyng one an other too true religion &amp;
+vertue. O that no man would sow emongist the people
+pernitious doctryne, but with all lowly diligêce and Godlye
+monition euer prouoke, tempt, and stere them, tyll their
+heartes were remoued frõ their olde dautyng dreames and
+supersticiõ, which haue been long grafted in them thorow
+popyshe doctrine. By this meane wee shuld euer haue concorde
+emongist vs, whiche in all thynges is necessary, but most
+nedefull and expedient in Gods holi woord. Now truely the
+godlyest thynge that can bee deuysed, for any christian
+realme, is to haue emongist them one maner and
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>fourme
+of doctryne, &amp; too trace trueli the steppes of God and neuer
+to seeke any other bywayes. Who hath not redde in y<sup>e</sup>
+scriptures? but that realme is endued with godly ornamentes
+&amp; riches, where all men prospere, go for ward and florishe
+in gods woord, delectyng day and night in the swete
+cõsolations of the holy testament. By this way we shuld
+especially set forth the glory of God, and of our sauiour
+Iesu Christ, if we would reuerently shew one an other that
+whiche God hath taught vs. Yea &amp; in this doyng all men
+shulde well perceaue that we were the true disciples of
+Christ, being knitte and coupled fast together in mynde and
+iudgement, preachyng God with one mouth and also with one
+assent euer promotyng his gloryous testament. O the good
+happe and grace of that king or prynce emongist whose
+subiectes there is such an hole consent and iudgement in the
+woord of God, for y<sup>t</sup> most assuredly byndeth &amp; adiuigneth
+y<sup>e</sup> hartes of al subiectes too their kyng. The strength of
+the Gospell is euen suche in this puincte,
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>that there
+was neuer man, which did humily receaue it, that would
+murmour ageynst his Prince. It teacheth how wyllyngly all
+men shulde obey their kyng. It sheweth verye lyuely and most
+apertly vnto euery man his ful dutie. It euer prouoketh vs
+from all wicked, cursed, and most obstinate disobedience. It
+euer instructeth men too shewe them selues most lowly,
+humile, and obesaunt toward their Prynce. Whosoeuer hath
+tasted fully therof, will declare hym selfe in al thynges,
+too bee a faithful subiect. Furthermore, it is clearer then
+the light (most vertuous prince) that it woulde make muche
+for the weale of this noble realme, yf all mê with heart and
+mynde, would nowe as well expulse the pernitious and
+deuelyshe doctryne af that Romishe bishop, as his name is
+blotted î bookes. There is none so ignoraunt, but he knoweth
+that, thorough hym we were brought into a wõderful blindnes,
+thorough hym we did sauer of nothyng, but of stynkyng
+Ydolatry, through hym we were deceiued with
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>false
+Ypocrisie. Now let euery blind stiffe hearted, and obstinate
+creature compare his abhomination with the gospell, and if
+he be not shameles, he will abashe to smell of his
+papistrie, and to walow still in ignoraunce, vn lest he bee
+priuely confederate and in heart consent with the detestable
+felowship of al wicked papistes. Now would God all suche men
+would reduce ageyn their heartes vnto y<sup>e</sup> gospell of
+Christ, would god they would bee prouoked by some meane to
+desire knowledge. O that god woulde yeoue them a couragious
+mynde too reade the gospel, there they shal sone fynde all
+the venoume of the romishe sort most playnely detected.
+Forsoth wee see dayly, y<sup>t</sup> lacke of knowledge of the gospel
+maketh some busserdes runne hedlong on all rockes, daungers,
+&amp; extreme perilles: yea, and beside that, olde popysh
+doctryne whiche lyeth folded vp &amp; locked faste in their
+heartes, doeth so sore blynd thê that they haue neither
+fauour ne affectiõ too printe in their myndes, the expressed
+coûcels, admonitions, and
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>preceptes of the holy
+scripture, but too slepe stil in their owne conceites,
+dreames, &amp; fonde phansies. Wherfore let your dignitie note
+well this, that all those whiche bee not wyllyng y<sup>t</sup> gods
+woord should bee knowen, and that blyndenes should be clean
+expulsed from all men, whiche be baptised in y<sup>e</sup> blessed
+bludde of Christ, bewray themselues playne papistes: for in
+very deede that most deceatful wolfe and graund maister
+papist with his totiens quotiens, and a pena et culpa
+blesseth all suche as will bee blynde stil, maintaine his
+põpe, drinke of his cuppe of fornication, trust in his
+pardounes, liue in popery, ypocrisie, and dãnable ydolatrie,
+shut vp the kingdome of heauen, &amp; neuer regarde the gospel.
+Cõtrarie too this, christ bi his holy Prophete calleth al
+those blessed y<sup>t</sup> seke for his testimonies, al those his
+elect &amp; chosê childrê, which turne frõ synne, ypocrisie, &amp;
+ydolatrie, all those goddes y<sup>t</sup> heare his word, yea, &amp;
+breuely, al those which set it forward honorable mê. &amp; in
+this puincte your grace shoulde euer beare in mynde,
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>that noble and
+vertuous kyng Hezekiah, whiche shewed
+hymselfe very honorable in settîg forward ye woord of God,
+and therby gotte hym glory and fame immortall, so that nowe
+he is most highly praysed amongtst all men. Ageyn his
+subiectes dyd obey his commaundement feynedly with
+Ypocrisie, but in their heartes they abhorred gods woord.
+O&nbsp;the miserie that dyd afterwarde sodeinly ensue vpon them,
+O&nbsp;the wonderfull wrath of God that was poured vpon them,
+O&nbsp;their great and obstinate blindnes whiche caused them most
+greuously too be scourged: Their plage was no lesse then too
+bee vtterly spoyled of their enemies, Their plage was no
+lesse then to eate one an other: Yea, their plage was no
+lesse then to eate their owne sonnes and doughters. This
+calamitie and sorow (most noble prynce) happened them
+because they dyd not regarde the lawes of God, but tourned
+too their olde abhominable Ydolatrie, and lightelye estemed
+gods holy woord. Wherfore euen now whosoeuer is an enemie
+<span class = "pagenum">B.i.</span>to the holy Bible,
+that is, neither studiyng it
+himselfe, nor willyng that other men shulde knowe it, he can
+in no wyse be a right christian man: although he fast, pray,
+doo almes, &amp; all the good workes vnder heauen. And he that
+hath suche a mynde, is y<sup>e</sup> most cursed and cruel enemie too
+god, a playne sower of sedition, and a deuelishe disquieter
+of all godly men. For truly those that reade the gospel of
+Christ, and labour diligêtly therin: doo fynde wonderfull
+rest &amp; quietnes, from all woofull miserie, perturbatiõ, and
+vanities of this world. And surely none but ypocrites or els
+deuilles would go about too stoppe or allure men from suche
+a treasure and godly study. And it were conuenient, that all
+they whiche wyll remayne styll necligent, styffe, &amp; blind:
+shuld set before their faces the feare of paynes infernall,
+and if thei haue any grace at all, their spirites ought to
+be moued: too note the great plages that haue happened the
+slouthful in gods woord, &amp; those that haue been stubburne
+ageynst the settyng
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>out of it. There bee a thousand
+recordes and examples in the holy Bible agaynst such as be
+farre wyde from knowledge, and lye now walteryng styl in
+ignoraunce and will not looke vpon the bible. It woulde
+seme, they hope for a thyng, but their hope is in vaine: For
+saint Paule plainely writeth the hope of suche ypocrites
+shall coom<sup>n</sup> too nought. And too conclude (most honorable
+Prince) seeyng wee haue suche knowledge opened vnto vs, as
+neuer had englishe mê, and are clearly deliuered from the
+snares and deceiptes of al false and wicked doctrine, if we
+shuld not now thãkefully receaue the gospell, and shewe our
+selues naturally enclyned to set it forwarde, yea, and pray
+daye and night vnto God, for the preseruatiõ and health of
+the kynges highnes, your graces deare, and most entierly
+beloued father, we were neither true subiectes nor ryght
+christen men. Forsoth, through the absolute wisedome, and
+the most godly and politike prudencie of his grace, the
+swete sounde of gods woorde is gone
+tho<span class = "pagenum">B.ii.</span>rough out
+all this realme, the holye Bible and blessed testament of
+oure sauiour Christ are coom<sup>n</sup>ne to lighte, and thousandes
+haue faithfully receiued those pleasaunt, ioyfull, and most
+comfortable promises of God. Surely this thyng before all
+other, is acceptable too god. This thyng especially swageth
+y<sup>e</sup> ire of god. This thyng in all holi scriptures god most
+chiefly requireth of his elect &amp; faithfull seruaûtes, euen
+too haue his lytell flocke knowe his blessed woorde, whiche
+woulde bee muche better knowê &amp; more thankefulli receaued,
+yf al agees and degrees of men with one mynd, wyll, &amp; voice,
+would nowe drawe after one lyne, leauyng their owne priuate
+affections, and shewe theim selues euer vigilant, prompt, &amp;
+ready helpers &amp; workers with God, (accordynge to the
+councell of sainct Paule) &amp; especially priestes,
+scolemaisters &amp; parêtes, which accordyng too y<sup>e</sup> Prophete
+Dauid are blessed, if they gladly requite y<sup>e</sup> lawe of God.
+They shuld therfore reade y<sup>e</sup> bible &amp; purdge theyr mindes
+of al papistry: for theyr
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>necligence, in dooyng their
+duties &amp; slugishnes toward y<sup>e</sup> blessed woord of god, dooeth
+too muche appere. Through them forsoth the gospel of Christ
+shuld bee most strongely warded and defended, for almost all
+the Prophetes, and a great parte of the scripture beside
+teache them their duties, and shew playnely what maner of
+men they shulde bee: Yea, and how greuously the holy
+Prophetes crie out vpon false and ignoraunt priestes, the
+thyng is very euident. But through the helppe of God all
+those that be ignoraunt, or els learned (as they take them
+selues) wyll leaue of, and repent them of their wicked and
+obstinate blyndnes, and bowe them selues with all
+oportunitie too draw mens heartes too the holy testament of
+God: consideryng, y<sup>t</sup> in the terrible day of iudgement,
+euery mã shall yeoue accompte of his Beliwicke, where
+neither ignoraûce shall excuse vs, ne yet any worldly põpe
+may defêd vs. Most happye thê shall they bee, whiche haue
+walked iustely in the sight of the Lorde, and
+<span class = "pagenum">B.iii.</span>that
+haue syncerely preached his testament and lyuely woord
+withoute flattery or iuggelyng: Yea, and in y<sup>t</sup> fearful
+day, all they (as writeth S. Augustine) shal fynde mercie at
+the handes of god, whiche haue entised and allured other
+vnto goodnes and vertue. Weiyng this with my self, (most
+excellent, and vnto all kynd of vertues most prõpt &amp; prestãt
+Prince) I thought it good too translate this Dialoge, called
+the Epicure, for your grace: whiche semed too me, too bee
+very familiar, &amp; one of y<sup>e</sup>
+godliest Dialoges y<sup>t</sup> any mã
+hath writtê in y<sup>e</sup> latin tong. Now therfore I most humili
+praie, y<sup>t</sup> this my rude &amp; simple trãslation may bee
+acceptable vnto your grace, trustyng also y<sup>t</sup> your most
+approued gentilnes, wil take it in good part. There as I doo
+not folow y<sup>e</sup> latyn, woord for woord, for I omytte y<sup>t</sup> of
+a certaine set purpose.</p>
+<br>
+<p align = "center"><span class = "italics">Your humile seruaunt,
+Philyppe</span><br>
+<span class = "headline2">Gerrard, groume of your</span><br>
+graces Chambre.</p>
+<br>
+<hr>
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>
+<br>
+<table align = "center">
+<tr>
+<td><span class = "roman">The inter-<br>
+locutours</span></td>
+<td><p>{<span class = "speaker">HEDONIVS</span></p>
+<p>{<span class = "speaker">SPVDEVS</span></p></td>
+</tr>
+</table>
+<br>
+<p><img src = "images/w22.png" border = "0" align = "left"
+hspace = "5" width = "216" height = "227" alt = "W">
+<span class = "italics">HAT</span> meaneth hit
+<span class = "roman">Spudeus</span>, too applye hys booke so
+ernestlye I praye you what is the matter you murmour so with
+yourselfe?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVDEVS.</span> The truth is
+(O&nbsp;<span class = "roman">Hedoni</span>) I
+seke too haue knowledge of a thing, but as yet I cannot
+fynde y<sup>t</sup> whych maketh for my purpose.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO</span> What
+booke haue you there in your bosome?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVDE.</span> <span class = "roman">Ciceros</span>
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>dialoge of the endes of goodnes.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> It had
+bene farre more better for you, too haue sought for the
+begynnynges of godly thynges, then the endes.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVDE.</span>
+Yea, but <span class = "roman">Marcus Tullius</span> nameth y<sup>t</sup> the ende of
+godlines which is an exquisite, a far passing, and a very
+absolute goodnes in euerye puincte, wherein there is
+contained all kynde of vertu: vnto the knowledge ther of
+whosoeuer can attaine, shuld desire none other thîg, but
+hold himselfe hauyng onely that, as one most fully content
+and satisfied.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> That is a worke of very great
+learning and eloquence. But doo you thynke, y<sup>t</sup> you haue
+preuailed in any thîg there, whereby you haue the
+ra<span class = "pagenum">|</span>ther come too the knowledge of the truth?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPE.</span> I
+haue had such fruite and cõmoditie by it, that now verelye
+hereafter I shall doubt more of the effect and endes of good
+thinges, then I did before.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> It is for husbãd
+menne too stande in doubt how farre the limittes and
+merebãkes extend.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPE.</span> And I cannot but muse styll,
+yea, and wonder very muche, why ther hath been so great
+controuersie in iudgementes vpon so weightie a matter (as
+this is) emongist so well learned menne: especially suche as
+bee most famous and auncient writers.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> This was
+euen the cause, where the verite of a thyng is playne and
+manifest, cõtrarily, y<sup>e</sup> errour through
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>ignoraunce
+againe in the same, is soone great &amp; by diuers meanes
+encreaseth, for y<sup>t</sup> thei knewe not the foundation and first
+beginnyng of the whole matter, they doo iudge at all
+auentures and are very fondly disceaued, but whose sentence
+thynke you too bee truest?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPE.</span> Whan I heare
+<span class = "roman">MARCVS Tullius</span> reproue the thyng, I then fãtasie none
+of all their iudgementes, and whan I heare hym agayne
+defende the cause: it maketh me more doubtfull thê euer I
+was and am in suche a studie, that I can say nothyng. But as
+I suppose y<sup>e</sup> Stoickes haue erred the lest, and nexte vnto
+thê I commend the <span class = "roman">Peripatetickes</span>.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDo.</span> Yet I
+lyke none of their opini<span class = "pagenum">|</span>ons so well as I doo the
+Epicures.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> And emõgist all the sectes: the
+<span class = "roman">Epicures</span> iudgement is most reproued and condemned
+with the whole consent and arbitremêt of all menne.
+<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> Let vs laye a side all disdayne and spite of
+names, and admitte the Epicure too bee suche one, as euery
+man maketh of hym. Let vs ponder and weighe the thyng as it
+is in very deed. He setteth the high and principall
+felicitie of man in pleasure, and thiketh that lyfe most
+pure and godly, whiche may haue greate delectatiõ and
+pleasure, and lytle pensiuenes.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> It is euen so.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> What more vertuouser thyng, I praye you, is
+possible too bee spokê then this
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "text reads 'sai-|saiyng'">saiyng</ins>.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span>
+Yea, but all menne wonder and crye out on it, and saye: it
+is the voyce of a bruite beast, and not of manne.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> I knowe thei doo so,
+but thei erre in y<sup>e</sup>
+vocables of theise thinges, and are very ignoraunt of the
+true and natiue significations of the woordes, for if wee
+speake of perfecte thynges, no kinde of menne bee more
+righter <span class = "roman">Epicures</span>, then Christen men liuing reuerêtly
+towardes God and mã, and in the right seruice and worshiping
+of Christ.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV</span> But I thinke the
+<span class = "roman">Epicures</span> bee
+more nerer and agree rather with the <span class = "roman">Cynickes</span>, then
+with the Christien sorte: forsoth y<sup>e</sup> Christiens make them selues leane
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>with fastynge, bewayle and lament their
+offences, and eyther they bee nowe poore, or elles theyr
+charitie and liberalitie on the nedye maketh theim poore,
+thei suffer paciently to bee oppressed of mêne that haue
+great power and take many wronges at their handes, and many
+men also laughe theim too skorne. Nowe, if pleasure brynge
+felicitie wyth it, or helpe in anye wyse vnto the
+furderaunce of vertue: we see playnly that this kynde of
+lyfe is fardest from al pleasures.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedonius.</span> But doo
+you not admitte <span class = "roman">Plautus</span> too bee of authoritie?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Speudeus.</span> Yea, yf he speake vprightely.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedonius.</span> Heare nowe them, and beare awaye
+wyth you the saiynge of
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>an vnthriftie seruaunt, whyche is more
+wyttier then all the paradoxes of the Stoickes.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPE.</span> I tarie to heare what ye wil say.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> Ther is
+nothyng more miserable then a mynd vnquiet &amp; agreued with it
+selfe.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPE.</span> I like this saiyng well, but what doo
+you gather of it?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> If nothing bee more miserable
+thê an vnquiet mynde, it foloweth also, that there is
+nothing happiar, then a mynde voyde of all feare, grudge,
+and vnquietnes.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPEV.</span> Surely you gather the thing
+together with good reasõ but that notwithstandynge, in what
+countrie shall you fynde any such mynde, that knoweth not it
+selfe gyltie and culpable in some kynde of euell,<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span>
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>I call that euyll, whiche dissolueth the
+pure loue and amitie betwixt God and manne.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> And
+I suppose there bee verye fewe, but that thei bee offêders
+in this thynge.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> And in good soth I take it,
+that al those y<sup>t</sup> bee purdged, are clere: whych wiped out
+their fautes with lee of teares, and saltpeter of sorowfull
+repentaunce, or els with the fire of charitie, their offêces
+nowe bee not only smalle grefe and vnquietnes too them, but
+also chaunce oftê for some more godlier purpose, as causing
+thê too lyue afterward more accordyngly vnto Gods
+commaûdemêtes.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> In deede I knowe saltpeter and
+lee, but yet I neuer hearde before, that faultes
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>haue
+been purdged with fire.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">H.</span> Surely, if you go to the
+minte you shall see gould fyned wyth fyre, notwithstãdyng
+that ther is also, a certaine kynde of linê that brenneth
+not if it bee cast in y<sup>e</sup> fyre, but loketh more whiter then
+any water coulde haue made it, &amp; therefore it is called
+<span class = "roman">Linum asbestinum</span>, a kynde of lynen, whyche canne
+neither bee quenched with water nor brent with fyre.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span> Nowe in good faith you bring a paradox more
+wõderful then all the maruailous and profound thynges of the
+Stoickes: lyue thei pleasasauntly whom Chryst calleth
+blessed for that they mourne &amp; lament?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedonius.</span> Thei
+seme too the worlde too mourne, but
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>verely they lyue in
+greate pleasure, and as the commune saiynge is, thei lyue
+all together in pleasure, in somuche that
+<span class = "roman">SARDANAPALVS</span>,
+<span class = "roman">Philoxenus</span>, or
+<span class = "roman">Apitius</span> compared vnto them: or
+anye other spoken of, for the greate desyre and study of
+pleasures, did leade but a sorowefull and a myserable lyfe.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spe.</span> These thinges that you declare bee so straunge
+and newe, that I can scarcelye yeoue any credite vnto them.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> Proue and assaye them ones, and you shall fynde
+all my saiynges so true as the Gospell, and immediatly I shal
+bryng the thynge too suche a conclusion (as I suppose) that
+it shall appeare too differ very lytle from the truth
+<span class = "pagenum">C.i</span><br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> make hast then vnto your purpose.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> It shalbe doone if you
+wyll graunt me certayne thynges or I begynne.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span> If in case you demaunde
+suche as bee resonable.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> I wyl take myne
+aduauntage, if you confesse the thyng that maketh for mine
+intent.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span> go too.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> I thynke ye wyll
+fyrste graunt me, that ther is great diuersitie betwxt the
+solle and the bodye<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span> Euen as much as there is
+betwene heauen and yearth, or a thyng earthly and brute, &amp;
+y<sup>t</sup> whiche dieth neuer, but alwayes cõtaineth in it the
+godly nature.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> And also, that false deceiueable
+&amp; coûterfetted holy thynges, are not too bee taken for
+those, which in very dede be
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>godly.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spude.</span> No
+more then the shaddowes are too bee estemed for the bodies,
+or the illusions and wonders of wytchcraftes or the
+fantasies of dreames, are too bee taken as true thynges.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HE.</span> Hitherto you answer aptly too my purpose,
+and I thynke you wyl graunt me this thyng also, that true and
+godly pleasure can reste and take place no where but only on
+such a mynd that is sobree and honest.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> What
+elles? for no man reioyseth too beholde the Sunne, if his
+eyes bee bleared or elles delecteth in wyne, if the agew
+haue infected hys tast.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> And the
+<span class = "roman">Epicure</span>
+hymselfe, or elles I am disceiued, would not clippe &amp;
+enbrace that pleasure, whiche
+<span class = "pagenum">C.ii.</span>would bring with it
+farre greater payne and suche as would bee of long
+continuaunce.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV</span> I thynke he woulde not, if he had
+any wytte at all.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> Nor you wyll not denye this,
+that God is the chiefe and especiall goodnes, then whõ there
+is nothyng fayrer, there is nothyng ameabler, ther is
+nothing more delicious and swetter.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVDE.</span> No man
+wyll deny thys except he bee very harde hearted and of an
+vngentler nature then the <span class = "roman">Ciclopes</span>.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> Nowe
+you haue graunted vnto me, that none lyue in more pleasure,
+then thei whyche lyue vertuouslye, and agayne, none in more
+sorowe and calamytie then those that
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>lyue vngratiously.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span> Then I haue graûted more
+thê I thought I had.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">He.</span> But what thing you haue ones
+cõfessed too bee true (as <span class = "roman">Plato</span> sayth)
+you should not deny it afterward.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> Go furth with your matter.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO</span> The litle whelpe y<sup>t</sup>
+is set store and greate
+price by, is fed most daintely, lieth soft, plaieth and
+maketh pastime continually, doo you thinke that it lyueth
+plesaûtly?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> It dooeth truely.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> Woulde
+you wyshe to haue suche a lyfe?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> God forbyd that,
+excepte I woulde rather bee a dogge then a man,<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span>
+Then you confesse that all the chief pleasures arise and
+spring frõ the mynd, as though it were from a welspryng.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span>
+<span class = "pagenum">C.iii</span>That is euident ynough.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HE.</span>
+Forsoth the strength and efficacy of the minde is so great,
+that often it taketh away the felyng of al externe and
+outward pain &amp; maketh that pleasaunt, which by it selfe is
+very peynful.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> We se that dayly in louers, hauyng
+great delight to sytte vp long &amp; too daunce attendaunce at
+their louers doores all the colde wynter nyghtes.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDo.</span> Now weigh this also,
+if the naturall loue of
+man, haue suche great vehemency in it, which is a cõmune
+thyng vnto vs, both with bulles and dogges, howe much more
+should all heauenly loue excell in vs, which cõmeth of y<sup>e</sup>
+spirit of Christ, whose strêgthe is of suche power, that it
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>would make death a thîg most terrible,
+too bee but a pleasure vnto vs.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span> What other men thîke inwardly
+I know not, but certes thei wãt many pleasures which cleaue
+fast vnto true and perfect vertue.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">He.</span> What
+pleasures?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span> Thei waxe not rich, thei optein no
+promotiõ, thei bãket not, thei daûce not, thei sing not,
+thei smell not of swete oyntmêtes, thei laugh not, thei play
+not.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">He.</span> We should haue made no mention in thys place
+of ryches and prefermente, for they bryng wyth them no
+pleasaunt lyfe, but rather a sadde and a pêsiue. Let vs
+intreate of other thynges, suche as they chiefely seeke for,
+whose desyre is to liue deliciously, see ye not daily
+drõ<span class = "pagenum">C.iiii</span>kerdes, fooles,
+and mad menne grinne and leape?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> I see it<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> Do you thynke that thei
+liue most pleasaûtly?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV</span> God send myne enemies such
+myrth &amp; pleasure.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HE.</span> Why so?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Sp.</span> For ther
+lacketh emongist thê sobrietie of mind.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HE.</span> Then you
+had leuer sit fastyng at your booke, then too make pastime
+after any suche sorte.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SP.</span> Of thê both: truly I had
+rather chose to delue.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">H.</span> For this is plaine that
+betwixt the mad mã &amp; the drûkerd ther is no diuersitie, but
+y<sup>t</sup> slepe wil helpe the one his madnes, &amp;
+with much a doo
+y<sup>e</sup> cure of <span class = "roman">Physicions</span>
+helpeth the other, but the
+foole natural differeth nothing frõ a brute beast except by
+shape and portrature of body, yet thei
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "catchword spelled 'bee'">be</ins> lesse
+miserable whom nature hathe made verye brutes, then those
+that walowe theim selues in foule and beastly lustes.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SP.</span> I confesse that.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> But now tell me,
+whether you thynke thê sobre and wyse, which for playn
+vanities and shadowes of plesure, booth dispice the true and
+godlye pleasures of the mynde and chose for them selues
+suche thynges as bee but vexacion &amp; sorowe.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> I take it, thei bee not.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> In deede thei bee not
+drûke with wyne, but with loue with anger, with auarice,
+with ambicion, and other foule and filthie desires, whiche
+kynde of drunkenes is farre worse, thê that is gotten with
+drinking of wine. Yet <span class = "roman">Sirus</span> y<sup>t</sup>
+leude cõspaniõ <span class = "pagenum">|</span>of whom
+mention is made in y<sup>e</sup> commedie, spake witty
+thynges after he had slepte hym self soobre, and called too
+memorie his greate and moost beastlye drunkenes: but the
+minde that is infected with vicious &amp; noughty desire, hath
+muche a doo too call it selfe whom agein? How many yeares
+doeth loue, anger, spite, sensualitie, excesse, and
+ambition, trouble and prouoke the mynde? How many doo wee
+see, whiche euen from their youth, too their latter dais
+neuer awake nor repêt them of the drunkennes, of ambitiõ,
+nigardnes, wanton lust, &amp; riatte?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span> I haue knowen
+ouermany of y<sup>t</sup> sorte.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> You haue graûted that
+false and fayned good
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>thinges, are not too bee estemed
+for the pure and godly.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Sp.</span> And I affirme that still.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> Nor that there is no
+true and perfect pleasure,
+except it bee taken of honest and godly thynges.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spud.</span> I confesse that.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">He.</span> Then (I pray you)
+bee not those good that the commune sorte seeke for, they
+care not howe?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span> I thinke they be not.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> Surely if thei were good, they would not
+chaunce but onely too good men: and would make all those
+vertuous that they happen vntoo. What maner of pleasure make
+you that, doo you thinke it too bee godly, which is not of
+true &amp; honest thynges, but of deceatfull: and coometh out of
+y<sup>e</sup> shadowes of good thynges?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Sp.</span>
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>Nay in noo wyse.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">He.</span> For pleasure maketh vs to liue merely.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span> Yea, nothyng so muche.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">He.</span> Therfore no
+man truely liueth pleasauntly, but he that lyueth godly:
+that is, whiche vseth and delecteth onli in good thynges:
+for vertue of it selfe, maketh a man to habound in all
+thynges that bee good, perfete, &amp; prayse worthy: yea, it
+onely prouoketh God the fountaine of all goodnes, too loue
+and fauour man.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SP.</span> I almost consent with you.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> But now marke howe far they bee from all
+pleasure, whiche seeme openly emongist all men too folowe
+nothyng, but the inordinate delectation in in thynges carnall.
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>First their mynde is vile, and corrupted with
+the sauour and taste of noughtie desires, in so muche y<sup>t</sup>
+if any pleasaunt thing chaunce them, forthwith it waxeth
+bitter, and is nought set by, in like maner as where y<sup>e</sup>
+welle hed is corrupted and stynketh, there y<sup>e</sup> water must
+nedes be vnsauery. Agein ther is no honest pleasure, but
+that whiche wee receaue with a sobre and a quiet mynde. For
+wee see, nothyng reioyseth the angry man more, thê too bee
+reuenged on his offenders, but that pleasure is turned into
+pain after his rage bee past, and anger subdued.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span>
+I say not the contrary.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">He.</span> Finally, suche leude
+pleasures bee taken of fallible thinges,
+there<span class = "pagenum">|</span>fore it
+foloweth that they be but delusiõs and shadowes. What woulde
+you say furthermore, if you saw a mã so deceaued with
+sorcerie &amp; also other detestable witchecraftes, eat, drynke,
+leap, laugh, yea, and clappe handes for ioye, when ther wer
+no such thyng there in very dede, as he beleueth he seeth.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span> I wolde say he were both mad and miserable.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> I my self haue been often in place, where the
+lyke thyng hath been doone. There was a priest whiche knewe
+perfectly by longe experience and practise, the arte to make
+thynges seme that they were not, otherwise called,
+<span class = "roman">deceptio visus</span>.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Sp.</span> He did not lerne
+that arte of the holy scripture?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> Yea,
+ra<span class = "pagenum">|</span>ther of most
+popeholy charmes and witchecraftes: that is too saye, of
+thinges, cursed, dampnable, and wourthy too bee abhorred.
+Certayne ladies &amp; gentlewomen of the courte, spake vnto hym
+oftentimes: saiyng, they woulde coom<sup>n</sup> one day too his
+house and see what good chere he kept: reprouyng, greatly
+vile and homly fare, and moderate expenses in all thynges.
+He graunted they shulde bee welcome, and very instauntly
+desired them. And they came fastyng because they would haue
+better appetites. Whã they wer set to dyner (as it was
+thought) ther wãted noo kynde of delitious meat: they filled
+thê selues haboûdantly: after y<sup>e</sup> feast was
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "catchword spelled 'done'">doone</ins>,
+they gaue moost hearty thanckes, for their galaunte cheare,
+and departed, euery one of them vnto their owne lodgynges:
+but anone their stomackes beganne too waxe an hungred, they
+maruayled what this shuld meane, so soone to be an hungred
+and a thirste, after so sumptuous a feast: at the last the
+matter was openly knowen and laught at.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spu.</span> Not
+without a cause, it had been muche better for thê too haue
+satisfied their stomackes at their owne chãbers with a messe
+of potage, thê too be fed so delitiousli with vain illusiõs.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">H.</span> And as I thîk y<sup>e</sup>
+cõmune sort of men ar muche
+more too bee laught at, whiche in steede of Godlye thynges,
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>chose vaine and transitory shadowes,
+and reioyce
+excedyngly in suche folishe phansies that turne not
+afterwarde in too <ins class = "correction" title =
+"text reads 'a / a laughter'">a laughter</ins>, but into euerlasting
+lamentation and sorow.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spudeus</span> The more nerelier I
+note your saiynges, the better I like thê.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> Go
+too, let vs graunt for a tyme these thynges too bee called
+pleasaunt, that in very dede ar not. Would yow saye that
+meeth were swete: whiche had more Aloes myngled with it,
+then honye?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spud.</span> I woulde not so say and if there
+were but the third part of an ounce of Aloes mixt with it.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hedo.</span> Or els, would you wishe to
+bee scabbed because you haue some pleasure too scratch?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Spud.</span> Noo, if I
+wer <span class = "pagenum">D.i</span>in my right mynd.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> Then weigh with
+your self how great peyne is intermyngled wyth these false
+and wrongly named pleasures, y<sup>t</sup> vnshamefast loue filthie
+desire, much eatyng and drinking bring vs vnto: I doo omitte
+now that, which is principall grudge of cõscience, enemitie
+betwixt God and mã, and expectation of euerlastyng
+punishêment. What kynd of pleasure, I pray you is ther in
+these thinges, that dooeth not bryng with it a greate heape
+of outeward euilles?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> What bee thei?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> We ought to let passe
+and forbeare in this place auarice,
+ambition, wrath, pryde enuy, whiche of their selues bee heuy
+and sorowful euylles and
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>let vs conferre and compare
+all those thynges together, y<sup>t</sup> haue the name of some chief
+and special pleasure: wher as the agew the hedache, the
+swelling of the belly, dulnes of witte, infamy, hurt of
+memory, vomyting, decaye of stomacke, tremblyng of the body
+succede of ouer muche drynking: thynke you, that the
+<span class = "roman">Epicure</span> would haue estemed any suche lyke pleasure as
+thys, cõuenient and wourthy desire?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> He woulde
+saye it wer vtterly too bee refused.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDONi.</span> Wheras
+young men also with hauntynge of whores (as it is dayly
+seene) catche the newe leprosie, nowe otherwyse named Jobs
+agew, and some cal it the scabbes of Naples, throughe
+<span class = "pagenum">D.ii</span>which desease they feele often
+y<sup>e</sup> most extreme and
+cruell paines of deathe euen in this lyfe, and cary about a
+bodye resemblyng very much some dead coarse or carryn, do
+you thynke that thei apply them selues vnto godlye pleasure.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVD.</span> Noo, for after thei haue been often familiar
+with their prety ones, then they must goo streighte too the
+barbours, that chaunceth continuallye vnto all whoremongers.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> Now fayne that ther wer a lyke measure of pain
+and plesure, would ye then require too haue the toothache so
+longe as the pleasure of quaffing &amp; whordome endured?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> Verely I had rather wãt them booth, for ther is
+no commoditie nor van<span class = "pagenum">|</span>tage to bye pleasure with payn but
+only to chaûg one thing for another, but the best choise is
+nowe not too affectionate anye such leudnes, for <span class = "roman">MAR.
+Tullius</span> calleth that an inward greife &amp; sorow.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">He.</span> But now y<sup>e</sup> prouocation
+&amp; entisemêt of vnleful
+plesure, besides that it is much lesse then the pain which
+it bringeth with it, it is also a thing of a very short
+time: but if the leprosye bee ones caught, it tourmêteth mê
+al their life daies very pitifully &amp; oftentimes cõstraineth
+them to wyshe for death before thei cã dye.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SP.</span> Such
+disciples as those then, the <span class = "roman">Epicure</span> would not knowe.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> For the most part pouertie, a very miserable and
+painfull burden, foloweth
+<span class = "pagenum">D.iii.</span>lechery, of immoderate
+lust cõmeth the palsie, tremblyng of y<sup>e</sup> senewes, bleardnes
+of eyes, and blyndnes, the leprosie and not these only, is
+it not a <u>p</u>per pece of worke (I pray you) to chaûg this
+short pleasure neyther honest nor yet godly, for so manye
+euylles far more greuouse and of muche longer continuance.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SP.</span> Although there shoulde no pain com of it,
+I&nbsp;esteme hym to bee a very fond occupier, which would chaûge
+precious stones for glasse.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HE.</span> You meane that would
+lose the godly pleasures of the mynde, for the coloured
+pleasures of y<sup>e</sup> body.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SP.</span> That is my meanyng.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HE.</span> But nowe let vs come to a more perfecter
+supputation, neither the agewe
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>nor yet pouerty foloweth
+alwaies carnal pleasure, nor the new leprosy or els the
+palsy wait not on at al times the great &amp; excessiue vse of
+lecherye, but grudge of cõsiêce euermore is a folower &amp; sure
+companiõ of al vnleaful pleasure, then the which as it is
+plainly agreed betwixt vs, nothyng is more miserable.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> Yea, rather it grudgeth their cõscience sometyme
+before hande, &amp; in the self pleasure it pricketh their
+mynde, yet ther bee some y<sup>t</sup> you woulde say, want this
+motion and feelyng.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HE.</span> Thei bee nowe therfore in
+worse estate &amp; cõditiõ. Who would not rather feele payne,
+then too haue hys body lacke any perfecte sence, truly from
+some ether intempe<span class = "pagenum">D.iiii.</span>ratnes of euel desires, euen
+like as it were a certayne kynde of drunkenes, or els wont
+and cõmune haunt of vice which ar so hardened in them, y<sup>t</sup>
+they take a way y<sup>e</sup> felyng &amp; cõsideration of euyl in their
+youth, so that whã agee commeth vpõ them beside other
+infinitie hurtes and perturbations agaynst whose commyng
+thei should haue layd vp the deedes of their former lyfe, as
+a special iuwel and treasure: then thei stande greatly in
+fear of death, a thyng emongist all other most ineuitable, &amp;
+that no man canne shonne: yea, and the more they haue
+heretofore been dysmayed and lacked their sences, the
+greater now is their vnquietnes and grudge of
+cons<span class = "pagenum">|</span>cience,
+then truely the mynde is sodenly awaked whether it
+wol or noo, and verely wher as olde agee is alwayes sad and
+heuy of it selfe for as muche as it is in subiection and
+bondage vnto many incommodities of nature, but then it is
+farre more wretchede and also fylthye, if the mynde vnquiet
+with it selfe shal trouble it also: feastes, ryotous
+banketyng, syngyng, and daunsynge, with manye suche other
+wanton toyes &amp; pastimes which he was communely yeouê vnto &amp;
+thought very plesaût when he was young, bee nowe paynfull
+vnto hym beyng olde and crooked, ne agee hath nothyng too
+comforte and fortifi
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "catchword is 'hym'">it</ins> selfe withall, but onely too
+remembre that it hath passed ouer the course of yeares in
+vertue and godly liuyng and conceaue a special trust too
+obtaine herafter a better kynde of life. These be the two
+staues <ins class = "correction" title =
+"unchanged: 'where-/vpon'">wherevpon</ins> age is stayed, &amp;
+if in their steed you wyll
+lay on hym these two burdens: that is, memorie how synfully
+he hath ledde his life, and desperation of the felicitie
+that is too coome, I praye you what liuyng thyng can bee
+feyned too suffre sorer punishement and greater miserie?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">spu.</span> Verely I can see nothyng although some man
+woulde saye an olde horse.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">hedo.</span> Then to cõclude it
+is too late to waxe wise And that saiyng appereth now
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>too bee very true. Carefull mornynges doo oftentymes
+folowe mery euentides, and all vayne and outragious mirth
+euer turneth into sorowfull sighes: yea, &amp; they shulde haue
+considered both that there is noo pleasure aboue y<sup>e</sup>
+ioyfulnes of the heart, and that chearefull mynde maketh
+agee too florishe, an heauy spirit consumeth the boones, &amp;
+also that all the dayes of the poore are euell: that is,
+sorowfull and wretched. And agayne a quiet mynde is lyke a
+contynuall feaste.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVDEVS.</span> Therfore they bee wyse,
+that thryue in tyme, and gather too gether necessaries for
+that agee coom<sup>n</sup>.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDONI.</span> The holy scripture
+intreateth not soo wordely
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>as too measure the felicitie
+and highe consolation of manne, by the goodes of fortune,
+onely he is very poore, that is destitute and voyde of al
+grace &amp; vertue, and standeth in boundage and debette, bothe
+of bodye &amp; solle vnto that tyranne oure moost
+<ins class = "correction" title = "unchanged from original">foo</ins>
+&amp; mortall enemie the deuill.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> Surely he is one that is veri
+rigorous and impatient in demaundynge of his dutie.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HE.</span> Moreouer that man is ryche,
+whiche fyndeth mercye
+and foryeouenes at the handes of god. What shuld he feare,
+that hath suche a protectour? Whether men? where as playnely
+theyr hole power may lesse do agaêst God, then the bytyng of
+a gnat, <span class = "pagenum">|</span>hurteth the Elephant.
+Whether death? truly that
+is a right passage for good men vnto all sufficient ioy and
+perfection accordyng too the iust reward of true religion
+and vertue. Whether hell? For as in that the holy prophete
+speaketh boldely vnto God. Although I shulde walke in the
+middest of the shadow of death, I wil not feare any euils
+because y<sup>e</sup> art with me. Wherfore shulde he stande in feare
+of deuils, whiche beareth in his heart hym, that maketh the
+deuils too tremble and quake. For in diuers places the holye
+scripture praiseth and declareth opêly the mynde of a
+vertuous man, too bee the right temple of God. And this to
+bee so true y<sup>t</sup>
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>that it is not too bee spoken agaynst,
+ne in any wise shuld bee denied.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> Forsoth I can
+not see, by what reason these saiynges of yours can be
+confuted al thoughe they seme too varye muche from the
+vulgar and cõmune opinion of men.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> Why doo they
+soo?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> After your reasonyng euery honest poore
+man, shulde liue a more pleasaunt life, then any other, how
+much soeuer he did haboûd in riches, honour, and dignitie:
+and breuely though he had all kynde of pleasures.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HE.</span>
+Adde this too it (if it please you) too bee a kyng, yea, or
+an emperour if you take away a quiet mynd with it selfe, I
+dare boldely say, that the poore man sklenderlye
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>and
+homely appareled, made weake with fastyng, watchyng, great
+toile and labour, and that hath scarcely a groat in all the
+worlde, so that his mynde bee godly, he lyueth more
+deliciously then that man whiche hathe fyue hûdreth times
+greater pleasures &amp; delicates, then euer had
+<span class = "roman">Sardanapalus</span>.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SP.</span> Why is it thê, that we see
+communely those that bee poore looke farre more heuely then
+riche men.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> Because some of them bee twise poore,
+eyther some desease, nedines, watchyng, labour, nakednesse,
+doo soo weaken the state of their bodyes, that by reason
+therof, the chearefulnes of their myndes neuer sheweth it
+selfe, neyther in these
+thin<span class = "pagenum">|</span>ges, nor yet in their
+deathe. The mynde, forsooth thoughe it bee inclosed within
+this mortal bodye, yet for that it is of a stronger nature,
+it sõwhat trãsfourmeth and fascioneth the bodie after it
+selfe, especially if the vehement instigation of the spirit
+approche the violent inclination of nature: this is the
+cause we see oftentymes suche men as bee vertuous die more
+cherefully, then those that make pastyme contynually, &amp; bee
+yeouê vnto all kynd of pleasures.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SP.</span> In very dede, I
+haue meruayled oftten at that thyng.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HE.</span> Forsoothe it
+is not a thyng too bee marueyled at, though that there
+shulde bee vnspeakeable
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "catchword spelled 'ioye'">ioy</ins> and comforte where God
+<ins class = "correction" title = "text reads 'is / is present'">is present</ins>,
+whiche is the heed of all mirth and gladnes, nowe
+this is no straunge thyng, althoughe the mynde of a godly
+man doo reioyce contynually in this mortall bodye: where as
+if the same mynde or spirit discended into the lowest place
+of hell shuld lose no parte of felicitie, for whersoeuer is
+a pure mynd, there is god, wher God is: there is paradise,
+ther is heauen, ther is felicitie, wher felicitie is: ther
+is the true ioy and synsere gladnes.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SP.</span> But yet they
+shuld liue more pleasauntly, if certein incommodities were
+taken from them, and had suche pastymes as eyther they
+dispise orels can not get nor attaine vnto.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HE.</span>
+<span class = "pagenum">E.i.</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "catchword omits '('">(I</ins> praye you) doo you meane,
+suche incommodities as
+by the commune course of nature folow the cõdition or state
+of mã: as hunger, thirst, desease, werynes, age, death,
+lyghtnyng yearthquake, fluddes &amp; battail?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> I meane other, and these also.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> Then we intreate
+styll of mortal thynges and not of immortal, &amp; yet in these
+euils the state of vertuous men, may bee better borne
+withal, then of suche as seeke for the pleasures of the body
+they care not howe.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> Why so:<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> Especyally because their
+myndes bee accustomed and hardened
+with most sure and moderate gouernaunce of reason against al
+outragious affections of the mind
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>and they take more
+patiently those thynges that cannot bee shonned then the
+other sort doo Furthermore, for as muche as thei perceiue,
+all such thynges ar sent of god, either for the punishment
+of their faultes, or els too excitate and sturre them vp
+vnto vertue, then thei as meeke and obediente chyldren
+receiue them from the hãd of their mercifull father, not
+only desireously, but also chearefully and geue thankes
+also, namely for so merciful punyshment and inestimable
+gaines.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> But many doo occatiõ
+griefes vnto thê selues.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> But mo seeke remedye at the
+<span class = "roman">Phisicions</span>, either to preserue
+their bodies in helth or elles if they bee sycke,
+too re<span class = "pagenum">E.ii.</span>couer health, but
+willyngly too cause their owne sorowes, that is, pouertie,
+sickenes, persecution, slaunder, excepte the loue of God
+compel vs therto, it is <ins class = "correction"
+title = "text reads 'no-/vertue'">no vertue</ins> but folishnes: but as
+<ins class = "correction" title = "text reads 'of-/often'">often</ins>
+as thei bee punyshed for Christ and iustice sake, who
+dar bee so bold as too cal them beggers &amp; wretches? whã the
+Lord himself very famyliarly calleth them blessed, and
+commaûdeth vs to reioyse for their state and condition.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> Neuerthelesse,
+these thynges haue a certayne payne and griefe.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> Thei haue, but on the
+onesyde, what for fear of hel, and the other for hoope of
+euerlastynge ioye, the payne is sone past and forgottê Now
+tell me if you knewe that
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>you myghte neuer bee sycke,
+or elles that you shoulde feele no payne of your body in
+your life tyme, if you woulde but ones suffer your vtter
+skinne too bee prycked with a pynnes puinct, would you not
+gladly and with all your very heart suffer then so lytle a
+payne as that is?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV</span> Verye gladlye, yea, rather if I
+knewe perfectlye that my teeth would neuer ake, I would
+willynglye suffer too bee prycked depe with a nedle, and too
+haue both mine eares bored through with a bodkin.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> Surely what payne soeuer happeneth in this
+lyfe, it is lesse and shorter, compared with the eternall
+paines, then is the soden pricke of a needle, incomparisõ of
+the <span class = "pagenum">E.iii.</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "catchword spelled 'life'">lyfe</ins> of man though it bee
+neuer so long, for there is no conuenience or proportion of the thyng
+that hath ende, and that whych is infinite.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> You speake very truly.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> Now if a man coulde fully perswade
+you, that you should neuer feele payne in al your life, if
+you did but ones deuide the flame of ye fyre, with your
+hande, whyche thyng vndoughtely <span class = "roman">Pithagoras</span>
+forbade, woulde you not gladlye doo it?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> Yea, on that
+condicion I had liefer doo it an hundred times, if I knew
+precisely the promiser would kepe touch.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HE.</span> It is
+playne God cannot deceaue. But now that feelyng of paine in
+the fyre is longer vnto the whole lyfe of man, then is the
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>lyfe of mã, in respect of the heauenlye ioye,
+althoughe it were thrise so long as y<sup>e</sup> yeares of
+<span class = "roman">Nestor</span>, for
+that casting of the hand in the fyre thoughe it bee neuer so
+shorte, yet it is some parte of hys lyfe, but the whole lyfe
+of man is noo portion of tyme in respect of the eternal
+lyfe.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> I haue nothyng too saye against you.
+<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> Doo you then thyncke that anye
+affliction or tourment can disquiet those that prepare them selues wyth a
+chearful hearte and a stedfast hoope vnto the kyngedome of
+God, wher as the course of this lyfe is nowe so shorte?
+<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVDE.</span> I thinke not, if thei haue
+a sure perswasion and a constant hope too attayne it.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> I coome
+<span class = "pagenum">E.iiii.</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "catchword spelled 'nowe'">now</ins> vnto those pleasures,
+whiche you obiected
+agaynst me, they do wythdrawe them selues from daunsynge,
+bankettynge, from pleasaunte seeghtes, they dispyce all
+these thynges, as thus: for to haue the vse of thinges farre
+more ioyfulle, and haue as great pleasure as these bee, but
+after another sorte: the eye hath not seene, the eare hath
+not heard, nor the heart of man cannot thyncke what
+consolations <span class = "roman">GOD</span> hathe ordeined for them that loue
+hym. Sayncte Paule knewe what maner of thynges shoulde bee
+the songes, queeres, daunsynges, and bankettes of vertuous
+myndes, yea, in this lyfe.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVDEVS</span> but there bee some
+leafull plea<span class = "pagenum">|</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "catchword is '-sure'">sures</ins>, whyche they vtterlye refuse.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDONIVS.</span> That maye bee, for the immoderate vse of
+leafull and godly games or pastymes, is vnleaful: and if you
+wyll excepte this one thing onlye, in al other thei excelle
+whiche seeme too leade a paynfull lyfe, and whome we take
+too bee ouerwhelmed with all kynd of miseries. Now I prai
+you what more roialler sight can ther be, then y<sup>e</sup>
+cõtêplatiõ of this world? and such men as y<sup>e</sup> be in fauour
+of god keping his holy cõmaûdemêtes &amp; loue his most blessed
+testamêt, receiue far geater pleasure in the syght therof,
+then thother sorte doo, for while thei behold wyth
+ouercurious eyes, y<sup>e</sup> wõderful worke, their mynde
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>is
+troubled because they can not compasse for what purpose he
+doeth such thinges, then thei improue the moost righte and
+wise gouernour of all and murmour at his doinges as though
+they were goddes of reprehension: and often finde faute with
+that lady nature, and saye that she is vnnaturall, whiche
+taunt forsooth with as muche spite as can bee shewed with
+woordes, greueth nature: but truely it reboundeth on hym,
+that made nature, if there bee any at all. But the vertuous
+man with godly &amp; simple eyes beholdeth with an excedyng
+reioyce of heart the workes of his Lorde and father highly
+praysyng thê all, and neither reprehêdeth nor
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "catchword spelled 'fyndeth'">findeth</ins>
+faut with any of thê, but for euery thyng yeoueth moste
+hearty thankes, when he considereth that al were made for
+the loue of man. And so in al thynges, he praieth vnto the
+infinite power, deuine wisedome, &amp; goodnes of the maker,
+wherof he perceiueth moste euident tokens in thynges that
+bee here created. Now fain that there were suche a palace in
+verie deede as <span class = "roman">Apuleus</span> faineth,
+or els one that were
+more royall and gorgeouse, and that you shoulde take twoo
+thither with you too beholde it, the one a straunger, whiche
+gooeth for this intent onely too see the thyng, and the
+other the seruaût or soonne of hym that firste causeth this
+buyldyng, whether
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>will haue more delectie in it? the
+straunger, too whom suche maner of house dooeth nothyng
+appartain, or the soonne whiche beholdeth with greate ioye
+and pleasure, the witte, riches, and magnificence of his
+deerely beloued father, especially when he dooeth consider
+all this worke was made for his sake.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Sp.</span> Your
+question is too plain: for they most cõmunely that bee of
+euill condicions, knowe that heauen and all thinges
+contained therin, were made for mannes sake.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span>
+Almoste al knowe that, but some dooe not remembre it,
+shewyng thêselues vnthãkeful for the great and exhuberãt
+benefittes of god, &amp; al though thei remember it, yet that mã
+taketh <span class = "pagenum">|</span>greater delight
+in the sight of it whiche hath
+more loue vnto the maker therof, in like maner as, he more
+chearfully wyll behold the element whiche aspireth towarde
+the eternall life.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> Your saiynges are muche like
+too bee true.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> Nowe the pleasures of feastes
+dooeth not consist in the delicates of the mouth, nor in the
+good sauces of cookes, but in health of body and appetite of
+stomacke. You may not thynke that any delicious person
+suppeth more pleasauntly hauyng before hym partriches,
+turtelles, leuerettes, bekers, sturgeon, and lamprayes: then
+a vertuous man hauyng nothîg too eat, but onely bread
+potage, or wortes: and nothyng
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>too drynke, but water,
+single bere, or wyne well alayde, be cause he taketh these
+thinges as prepared of God vnto all lyuyng creatures, and
+that they bee now yeouê vnto him of his gentyll and
+mercifull father, praier maketh euery thyng too sauour well.
+The petition in y<sup>e</sup> begynnyng of dyner sanctifieth all
+thynges and in a while after there is recited some holy
+lesson of the woorde of God: whiche more refresheth the
+minde, then meate the body, and grace after all this.
+Finally he riseth from the table, not ful: but recreated,
+not laden, but refreshed: yea, refreshed both in spirit and
+bodie, thynke you that any chief deuiser of these muche vsed
+bãkets, &amp;
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "catchword spelled 'deyntie'">deintye</ins> delicaces fareth nowe more
+deliciously?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPudeus.</span> But in
+<span class = "roman">Venus</span> there is
+greate delectacions if we beleue <span class = "roman">Arestotell</span>.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">Hed.</span> And in this behalfe the vertuous
+manne far excelleth as well as in good fare, wiegh you now the matter
+as it is, the better a manne loueth his wife, the more he
+delecteth in the good felowship and familiaritie that is
+betwene theim after the course of nature. Furthermore, no
+menne louê their wiues more vehemêtly then thei that loue
+theim euê soo, as Christ loued the churche. For thei that
+loue thê for the desire of bodely pleasure, loue thê not.
+More ouer, the seldomer any man dooeth accompany with his
+wife, the greater pleasure, it
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>is to hym afterwarde,
+and that thyng the wãtõ poete knew full well whiche writeth,
+rare and seldome vse stereth vp pleasures. Albeit, the lest
+parte of pleasure is in the familiare company betwene theim.
+There is forsothe far greater in the continuall leadyng of
+their liues too gether, whiche emongest none can be so
+plesaunt as those that loue syncerely and faithfully
+together in godly and christian loue, and loue a like one
+the other. In the other sort, oftê whêthe pleasure of y<sup>e</sup>
+body decaieth &amp; waxeth old loue waxeth coold &amp; is sone
+forgottõ, but emõgest right christê mê, the more y<sup>e</sup> the
+lust of y<sup>e</sup> flesh decreaseth &amp; vanisheth away,
+y<sup>e</sup> more thê al godly loue encreseth
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>Are you not yet perswaded
+that none lyue more pleasauntly thê they whiche liue
+continually in vertue and true religiõ of god?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SP.</span>
+Would god all men were as well perswaded in that thyng.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">He.</span> And if they bee Epicures y<sup>t</sup>
+lyue pleasauntli:
+none bee righter Epicures then they that liue vertuously,
+and if we wyll that euery thyng haue it right name none
+deserueth more y<sup>e</sup> cogname of an Epicure, then that Prince
+of all godly wisedome too whõ most reuerêtly we ought
+alwaies too praye: for in the greeke tonge an Epicure
+signifieth an helper. Nowe whan the lawe of nature was first
+corrupted with sinne, whê the law of Moses did rather
+prouoke euil desires
+<span class = "pagenum">F.i.</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "text reads 'thê|then remedy'">then remedy</ins> them. Whã the
+tyraunte Sathanas reygned in this worlde freely and wythout
+punishement, then thys prynce onely, dyd sodenlye helpe
+mankynde redy to perishe: wherfore thei erre shamefully
+which scoff and bable that <span class = "roman">CHRIST</span> was one that was
+sadd and of a malancolye nature, &amp; that he hath prouoked vs
+vnto an vnpleasaunt kynde of lyfe, for onely he did shewe a
+kind of liuing most godly and fullest of al true pleasure,
+if we might haue the stone of <span class = "roman">Tantalus</span>
+taken awaye from vs.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVD.</span> What darke saiyng is this?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">EDO.</span> It is a mery tale too laugh at,
+but this bourd induceth verye graue and sadde thynges.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> I tary too heare
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>this mery conceite,
+that you name too bee so sage a matter.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">H.</span> Thei whiche gaue their studye and
+diligence to colour and <ins class = "correction"
+title = "text reads 'set-/furth'">set furth</ins> the preceptes of
+Philosophie wyth subtil fables, declare y<sup>t</sup> there was one
+<span class = "roman">Tantalus</span> broughte vnto the table of the
+goddes, whych was euer furnished wyth all good fare, and most nete and
+sumptuous that myght bee, whan thys straunger shoulde take
+hys leave, Iupyter thought it was for his great liberalitie
+and highe renoume, that his guest shuld not depart wythout
+some rewarde, he wylled him therfore too aske what he
+woulde, and he shoulde haue it: <span class = "roman">Tantalus</span> (forsooth)
+lyke a verye leude and foolyshe person,
+<span class = "pagenum">F.ii.</span>for that he
+sette all the felicitie and pleasure of man in the
+delectation of the bely, and glotonye, desired but only too
+sytte at suche a table all the dayes of hys life, Iupiter
+graunted him his desire, and shortly his vow was there
+stablished and ratifyed. <span class = "roman">Tantalus</span> nowe sytteth
+at the table furnyshed wyth all kindes of delicates, such drinke as
+the goddes druncke of was set on the table, and there wanted
+no rooses nor odours that could yeoue any swete smel before
+the Goddes, <span class = "roman">Ganymedes</span> the buttler or one lyke vnto
+hym, standeth euer redye, the <span class = "roman">Muses</span> stande rounde
+aboute syngyng pleasauntly, mery <span class = "roman">Silenus</span>
+daunseth, ne ther wanted noo fooles
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>too laugh at, and breuely,
+<ins class = "correction" title = "text reads 'there/there was'">there
+was</ins> euerye thynge that coulde delyght any sence of mã
+but emongist all these, <span class = "roman">Tantalus</span> sytteth all sadde,
+syghyng, and vnquiet with hym selfe, neither laughing nor
+yet touching such thynges as were set before hym<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVDE.</span> What was the cause?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HED.</span> Over his head
+as he sate there hãged by an heere a great stone euer lyke
+too fall.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPV.</span> I woulde then haue conueied my selfe
+from suche a table.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO</span> But his vowe had bound hym
+too the contrarye, for Iupyter is not so easye too intreate
+as oure <span class = "roman">GOD</span>, which dooeth vnloose the pernitious
+vowes of menne, that bee made contrary vnto his holy woord,
+if thei bee
+<span class = "pagenum">F.iii.</span>penitent and sorye therfore, or elles
+it myght bee thus, the same stoone that woulde not suffer
+hym too eate, would neither suffer hym to ryse, for if he
+had but ones moued he shuld haue been quashed al in peeses
+with the fall thereof.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVDE.</span> You haue shewed a very
+mery fable<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDON.</span> But nowe heare that thing, which
+you wil not laugh at: the commune people seeke too haue a
+pleasaunt life in outwarde thynges, where as noothyng can
+yeoue that, but onely a constant and a quiet mind: for
+surely a far heuier stone hangeth ouer these y<sup>t</sup> grudge
+with them selues, then hanged ouer <span class = "roman">Tantalus</span>:
+it only hangeth not ouer them, but greueth and
+op<span class = "pagenum">|</span>presseth the
+mynde, ne the mind is not troubled wyth any vayn hoope, but
+looketh euery houre to bee caste in too the paynes of hell,
+I praye you what can bee so pleasaunt emongist all thinges
+that bee yeouen vnto man, that coulde reioyse the mynde,
+whyche were oppressed wyth suche a stoone?<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVDE.</span>
+Truely there is nothyng but madnes, or elles incredulitie.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> Yf younge menne woulde weygh these thynges,
+that bee quyckly prouoked and entised with pleasure as it
+were wyth the cuppe of <span class = "roman">Circes</span>, whiche in steade of
+theyr greatest pleasures receiue poysone myxte with honye.
+Howe circumspecte would they bee too doo anye thynge
+vnad<span class = "pagenum">F.iiii</span>uisedly
+y<sup>t</sup> shoulde grudge their mindes
+afterward? What thinge is it that thei would not doo too
+haue suche a godly treasure in store against their latter
+daies? that is a minde knowyng it selfe cleane &amp; honest and
+a name that hath not been defiled at any time. But what
+thyng now is more miserable then is agee? Whan it beholdeth,
+and loketh backward on thinges y<sup>t</sup> be past seeth plainly
+with great grudg of conscience howe fayre thynges he hathe
+despiced and sette lyght by, (that is, howe farre he hath
+discented and gone astray from the promyses made vnto God in
+baptime) &amp; agayn, how foule &amp; noughty thîges he hath clipped
+and enbraced, and whã
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "catchword spelled 'he'">hee</ins> looketh forwarde, hee seeth
+then the daye of iudgemente drawe neere, and shortely after
+the eternall punyshemente of of hell.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVDE.</span> I esteme
+theim most happie whych haue neuer defyled theyr youthe, but
+euer haue increased in vertu, til thei haue coomne vnto the
+last puincte of age.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> Next them thei ar too bee
+commended that haue wythdrawne theim selues from the folie
+of youth in tyme.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SPVDE.</span> But what councel wil you
+yeoue agee that is in suche great myserie.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDO.</span> No
+man shoulde dispayre so long as life endureth, I wyl exhorte
+him to flee for helpe vnto the infinitie mercye &amp; gentilnes
+of God.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SP.</span> But the longer y<sup>t</sup>
+he hath liued <span class = "pagenum">|</span>the heape of his synnes
+hath euer waxen greate and greater, so that nowe it passeth the nomber
+of the sandes in the sea,<br>
+<span class = "speaker">H.</span> But the mercies of our lord far excede
+those sãdes, for although the sande can not bee numbred of
+manne, yet hit hath an ende, but the mercie of God neither
+knoweth ende, ne measure.<br>
+<span class = "speaker">SP.</span> Yea but he hath no
+space that shall dye by and by,<br>
+<span class = "speaker">HEDONI.</span> The lesse
+tyme he hath the more feruêtly he should cal vnto god for
+grace, that thyng is long inough before God, whiche is of
+suche power as too ascende from the yearth vnto heauê, for a
+short prayer forsoth streght entreth heauê, if it bee made
+with a vehemêt spirit. It is written, y<sup>t</sup>
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span><ins class = "correction"
+title = "catchword spelled 'the'">y<sup>e</sup></ins> womã
+synner spoken of in the gospell did penaunce al her life
+dayes: but with how fewe wordes again did the thief obtain
+Paradise in the houre of death? If he will crye with hearte
+and mynde, God haue mercie on me after thy great mercie:</p>
+
+<p align = "center">God
+wil take awaye from hym <span class = "roman">Tantalus</span> stone<br>
+and yeoue in his hea-<br>
+ryng ioye and cõfort<br>
+and his bones hu-<br>
+miled throughe <br>
+cõtrition, wil<br>
+reioyse<br>
+that<br>
+he<br>
+hath his synnes<br>
+foryeouen<br>
+hym.<br>
+<br>
+<span class = "headline2">FINIS.</span></p>
+<hr>
+<span class = "pagenum">|</span>
+<br>
+<p align = "center"><span class = "italics">Imprinted at London within the<br>
+precinct of the late dissolued house<br>
+of the gray Friers, by Richarde<br>
+Grafton, Printer too the<br>
+Princes grace.<br>
+the. XXIX.<br>
+daie of Iuly, the yere<br>
+of our Lorde.<br>
+M.D.XLV.</span></p>
+<br>
+<hr>
+<hr>
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+<pre>
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+The Project Gutenberg EBook of A Very Pleasaunt & Fruitful Diologe Called
+the Epicure, by Desiderius Erasmus
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+Title: A Very Pleasaunt & Fruitful Diologe Called the Epicure
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+Author: Desiderius Erasmus
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+Release Date: July 8, 2005 [EBook #16246]
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+Language: English
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+*** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK A VERY PLEASAUNT & FRUITFUL ***
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+       *       *       *       *       *
+           *       *       *       *
+       *       *       *       *       *
+
+
+                     A VE-
+                ry pleasaunt &
+                fruitful Dio-
+               loge called the
+                  *Epicure*,
+               made by that fa-
+               mous clerke Eras
+                mus of Rotero-
+                  dame, newly
+                  translated.
+                     1545.
+
+
+       *       *       *       *       *
+
+          _S. Paule to the Ephesians_
+
+        You that haue professed Christ,
+     suffre not your selues to be deceyued
+        vvith false doctrine, nor vaine
+        and noughtie talkyng, but herken
+          vnto all Godly thynges, and
+          especially too the doctryne
+                of the Gospell.
+
+
+||A.ii.||
+
+                  THE HABOVN-
+         daunt mercie and grace of our
+          heauenly father Iesu Christ,
+            maye alwaies strengthen
+            and defende oure noble
+             & vertuous Prynce Ed-
+              ward too the mainte-
+              naunce of the liue-
+                  ly woord of
+                      God.
+
+
+Whereas manye histories of olde & auncient antiquitie,
+and also al godly & Christia writers most playnely conset
+together, and agree in this, that dignitie, riches, kinred,
+worldly pompe, and renoume, doo neither make men better, ne
+yet happiar, contrarie too the blynde & fonde iudgement of
+the most part of menne: but by the power and strength of the
+mynde, that is, learnyng, wysedome, || and vertue, all menne
+are hyghly enriched, ornated, & most purely beutified, for
+these bee thinges bothe notable, eternall, and verye
+familiar betwene the heauenly father & vs. It is therefore
+euidente (most excellent Prince) that the fittest ornametes
+for your graces tender age, bee, eruditio and vertue.
+Wherunto you are bothe so ernestly addicte and therin so
+woderfully doo preuaile, that I nede not too exhorte &
+exstimulate your grace vnto the study thereof. For that God
+him self hath wrought, and fourmed your mynde so apt and
+desirous too attayne and diligetly too seeke for al godly
+doctrine, that eue now you doo shewe in all youre saiynges
+and dooinges suche a wonderfull pleasautes much lyke vnto
+a certayne swete musike or harmonie, that any honest hart
+exceadinglye woulde reioyce in the sight therof. Verely,
+your grace thinketh plainly all time lost, that is not
+bestowed vpon learnyng, which is a verie rare thyng in anye
+childe, and rarest of all in a Prince. Thus youre noblenes,
+rather desireth vertue and ||A.iii.|| learning the most
+surest and excellent treasures, which farre surmounte all
+worldly ryches, then anye vanities or trifles. Nowe youre
+grace prepareth for the holsome and pleasaunt foode of
+the mynde. Now you seke for that whiche you shal fynd
+most surest helper and faythfulst councellour in all your
+affaires. Now your magnificet mynde studieth that, whiche
+all Englyshe menne with meke and humile heartes shuld desire
+GOD to endue your grace with all. Now with diligent labour
+you searche for a thyng, as one most myndeful of this
+saiyng: Happy is that realme that hath a lerned Prince. Nowe
+you trauaile for that, whiche conquereth, and kepeth doune
+all greuous tourmentes & outragious affections of the mynde,
+too the furderaunce of good liuyng, and maintenauce of
+vertue, I meane holsome erudition and learnyng. Many
+Heathen Princes forsoth, are highly magnified with most
+ample prayses, which gaue them selues too the study of
+Philosophie, or knowledge of tongues, for their owne
+commoditie, and || especially for the weale of their
+subiectes. Who is nowe more celebrated and worthelier
+extolled then Mithridates? that noble kyng of Pont and
+Bithinia, which, (as Aulus Gellius writeth) vnderstoode so
+perfitly the languages of .xxii. sondrye countries that were
+vnder his dominio, that he neuer vsed any interpretour too
+answer his subiectes, but spake their laguages so finelye,
+as thoughe he had been of the same coutrie. Ageyn, that
+honorable manne Quintus Ennius saied: that he had .iii.
+heartes, because he coulde speake Greke, Italian, and Latin.
+Yea, and breuely, the most famaus writers, as well the
+Heathen, as the Christien, with an vniuersall consent,
+playnly affirme: Whan thei had weied the nature and condicio
+of the purest thinges vnder heauen, thei sawe nothyng faire,
+or of any pryce, or that ought too be accopted ours, but
+onely vertue and learning. Euen now too acknowledge that
+same, it is yeoue you from aboue, for your grace delecteth
+in nothyng more then too bee occupied in the holye Byble:
+wherin, ||A.iiii.|| you beginne too sauer & smelle furth
+the treasure of wisedome, knowledge and fulnes of the deuyne
+power, that is a studie most conuenient for euery Christien
+Prince, that kynd of studye cannot haue sufficient laude
+and commendation. Whose Princely heart forsoth, is raueshed
+on suche a godlie and vertuous studie, it can neuer haue
+condigne and worthie praises, but deserueth alwaies too bee
+had in great price, estimation, and honour. Who dooeth not
+know? that Prince which is yeouen vnto the scriptures of God
+and with a stoute stomake and valiat heart, both searcheth
+furth and also defendeth ye true doctrine of the Gospell,
+too bee inrolled in the assemble of Christ. Who dooeth not
+see? that Prince too bee moost surelye armed, which carieth
+in his heart the swerd of ye spirit, which is the blessed
+woord of God. Who is ignoraunt? that euer lastyng lyfe
+consisteth in the knoweledge of God. What Prince woulde not
+studie to maintaine that, which is written for the health,
+and saluation of all menne weiyuge with himselfe || that a
+Prince can not deserue, neither by conquest, ciuel policie,
+nor yet by anye other meane vnder heauen, thys name high or
+honorable, so wourthely as by the setting forward of Goddes
+woorde. What young Prince humily defendyng doune intoo him
+selfe and callyng to memory his bounden dutie woulde not
+with a glad hearte and a chearfull mynde, gredelye desyre
+too knowe, enlarge, and amplifie the glory and maiestie
+of hys derely beloued father? Your grace (forsoth) hath
+professed God too bee your father: Blessed are you then if
+you obey vnto hys word, and walke in his waies. Blessed are
+you, yf you supporte suche as preache the Gospell. Blessed
+are you, yf your mind bee full furnished with the testament
+of Christ, and shew your selfe too bee the most cruel
+too and enemy agaynst ypocrisie, supersticion, and all
+papistical phantasies, wherwith the true religion of God
+hathe been dusked and defaced these many yeres Blessed are
+you, if you reade it daye & nighte, that your grace maye
+knowe what GOD dooeth forbyd you, and ||A.v.|| euer submit
+your selfe therunto with seruiceable lowlines chiefly
+desiring to florysh and decke your mynd with godly
+knowledge. And most blessed are you, if you apply your
+self vnto al good workes, & plant surely in your heart the
+scriptures of Christ, If you thus doo, nether the power of
+any papistical realme, nor yet of hel can preuaile at any
+time against your grace. Nowe therfore, with humile hearte,
+faithfully receiue the swete promises of the Gospel. If
+you kepe the woordes of the Lorde and cleaue fast vnto
+them: there is promised you the kingdome of heauen: You
+are promised a weale publick most riche and welthy You are
+promised too bee deliuered from the deceiptes of all youre
+priuie enemyes. You are promised also, too conquere great
+and mightie nations. Agayne, let your grace bee most fully
+perswaded in this, that ther was neuer Kyng nor Prince, that
+prospered whiche tooke parte against Goddes woord, and that
+the greatest abhomination that can bee, either for Kyng,
+Prince, or any other manne, is too || forsake the true woord
+of God. O with howe rebukefull woordes & greuous iudgement
+thei be condemned, which dispice & set lytle by the holy
+Byble & most blessed Testamet of God, wherin there is
+contained all the wil & pleasure of our heauely father
+toward vs most miserable & ignoraunt wretches Who would not
+quake, too beholde the terrible feares & threatenynges of
+God ageinst al suche? Who would not lament & gladly helppe
+their obstinate blyndenes? Who woulde not weepe? to heare
+and reade in how many places, they be openly accursed by the
+scriptures of Christ. God him self playnely affirmeth, that
+he wyll sodenly consume them with the breath of his anger.
+Yea, besides that whoso euer declyneth from the word of
+God is accursed in all his doynges, whether he be Kyng, or
+Prynce, riche, or poore, or of what estate soeuer he bee.
+This fearfull saiyng (most excellent Prynce) shulde moue all
+men to take hede vnto their duties and to praie that gods
+word maie take place emogist vs. O that al men would
+||fantasie the scriptures of God, and saye with the vertuous
+man Iob. Wee will not bee ageynst the woordes of the holy
+one. Truth it is, God taketh diligent care too haue vs al
+know his woord. Woulde God therfore, that all wee were now
+willing to haue the syncere woorde of God & all holsom
+doctrine too go forward. O that all we would consent
+togither in the Gospell, brotherly admonishyng, and
+secretelye prouokyng one an other too true religion
+& vertue. O that no man would sow emongist the people
+pernitious doctryne, but with all lowly diligece and Godlye
+monition euer prouoke, tempt, and stere them, tyll their
+heartes were remoued fro their olde dautyng dreames and
+supersticio, which haue been long grafted in them thorow
+popyshe doctrine. By this meane wee shuld euer haue concorde
+emongist vs, whiche in all thynges is necessary, but most
+nedefull and expedient in Gods holi woord. Now truely the
+godlyest thynge that can bee deuysed, for any christian
+realme, is to haue emongist them one maner and || fourme
+of doctryne, & too trace trueli the steppes of God and
+neuer to seeke any other bywayes. Who hath not redde in ye
+scriptures? but that realme is endued with godly ornamentes
+& riches, where all men prospere, go for ward and florishe
+in gods woord, delectyng day and night in the swete
+cosolations of the holy testament. By this way we shuld
+especially set forth the glory of God, and of our sauiour
+Iesu Christ, if we would reuerently shew one an other that
+whiche God hath taught vs. Yea & in this doyng all men
+shulde well perceaue that we were the true disciples of
+Christ, being knitte and coupled fast together in mynde
+and iudgement, preachyng God with one mouth and also with
+one assent euer promotyng his gloryous testament. O the
+good happe and grace of that king or prynce emongist whose
+subiectes there is such an hole consent and iudgement in the
+woord of God, for that most assuredly byndeth & adiuigneth
+ye hartes of al subiectes too their kyng. The strength of
+the Gospell is euen suche in this puincte, || that there was
+neuer man, which did humily receaue it, that would murmour
+ageynst his Prince. It teacheth how wyllyngly all men shulde
+obey their kyng. It sheweth verye lyuely and most apertly
+vnto euery man his ful dutie. It euer prouoketh vs from all
+wicked, cursed, and most obstinate disobedience. It euer
+instructeth men too shewe them selues most lowly, humile,
+and obesaunt toward their Prynce. Whosoeuer hath tasted
+fully therof, will declare hym selfe in al thynges, too
+bee a faithful subiect. Furthermore, it is clearer then the
+light (most vertuous prince) that it woulde make muche for
+the weale of this noble realme, yf all me with heart and
+mynde, would nowe as well expulse the pernitious and
+deuelyshe doctryne af that Romishe bishop, as his name is
+blotted i bookes. There is none so ignoraunt, but he knoweth
+that, thorough hym we were brought into a woderful blindnes,
+thorough hym we did sauer of nothyng, but of stynkyng
+Ydolatry, through hym we were deceiued with || false
+Ypocrisie. Now let euery blind stiffe hearted, and obstinate
+creature compare his abhomination with the gospell, and
+if he be not shameles, he will abashe to smell of his
+papistrie, and to walow still in ignoraunce, vn lest he bee
+priuely confederate and in heart consent with the detestable
+felowship of al wicked papistes. Now would God all suche men
+would reduce ageyn their heartes vnto ye gospell of Christ,
+would god they would bee prouoked by some meane to desire
+knowledge. O that god woulde yeoue them a couragious mynde
+too reade the gospel, there they shal sone fynde all the
+venoume of the romishe sort most playnely detected. Forsoth
+wee see dayly, that lacke of knowledge of the gospel maketh
+some busserdes runne hedlong on all rockes, daungers, &
+extreme perilles: yea, and beside that, olde popysh doctryne
+whiche lyeth folded vp & locked faste in their heartes,
+doeth so sore blynd the that they haue neither fauour ne
+affectio too printe in their myndes, the expressed coucels,
+admonitions, and || preceptes of the holy scripture, but
+too slepe stil in their owne conceites, dreames, & fonde
+phansies. Wherfore let your dignitie note well this, that
+all those whiche bee not wyllyng that gods woord should bee
+knowen, and that blyndenes should be clean expulsed from
+all men, whiche be baptised in ye blessed bludde of Christ,
+bewray themselues playne papistes: for in very deede that
+most deceatful wolfe and graund maister papist with his
+totiens quotiens, and a pena et culpa blesseth all suche
+as will bee blynde stil, maintaine his pope, drinke of
+his cuppe of fornication, trust in his pardounes, liue
+in popery, ypocrisie, and danable ydolatrie, shut vp the
+kingdome of heauen, & neuer regarde the gospel. Cotrarie too
+this, christ bi his holy Prophete calleth al those blessed
+that seke for his testimonies, al those his elect & chose
+childre, which turne fro synne, ypocrisie, & ydolatrie, all
+those goddes that heare his word, yea, & breuely, al those
+which set it forward honorable me. & in this puincte your
+grace shoulde euer beare in mynde, || that noble and
+vertuous kyng Hezekiah, whiche shewed hymselfe very
+honorable in settig forward ye woord of God, and therby
+gotte hym glory and fame immortall, so that nowe he is most
+highly praysed amongtst all men. Ageyn his subiectes dyd
+obey his commaundement feynedly with Ypocrisie, but in their
+heartes they abhorred gods woord. O the miserie that dyd
+afterwarde sodeinly ensue vpon them, O the wonderfull
+wrath of God that was poured vpon them, O their great and
+obstinate blindnes whiche caused them most greuously too
+be scourged: Their plage was no lesse then too bee vtterly
+spoyled of their enemies, Their plage was no lesse then to
+eate one an other: Yea, their plage was no lesse then to
+eate their owne sonnes and doughters. This calamitie and
+sorow (most noble prynce) happened them because they dyd
+not regarde the lawes of God, but tourned too their olde
+abhominable Ydolatrie, and lightelye estemed gods holy
+woord. Wherfore euen now whosoeuer is an enemie ||B.i.|| to
+the holy Bible, that is, neither studiyng it himselfe, nor
+willyng that other men shulde knowe it, he can in no wyse be
+a right christian man: although he fast, pray, doo almes,
+& all the good workes vnder heauen. And he that hath suche a
+mynde, is ye most cursed and cruel enemie too god, a playne
+sower of sedition, and a deuelishe disquieter of all godly
+men. For truly those that reade the gospel of Christ, and
+labour diligetly therin: doo fynde wonderfull rest &
+quietnes, from all woofull miserie, perturbatio, and
+vanities of this world. And surely none but ypocrites or els
+deuilles would go about too stoppe or allure men from suche
+a treasure and godly study. And it were conuenient, that all
+they whiche wyll remayne styll necligent, styffe, & blind:
+shuld set before their faces the feare of paynes infernall,
+and if thei haue any grace at all, their spirites ought to
+be moued: too note the great plages that haue happened the
+slouthful in gods woord, & those that haue been stubburne
+ageynst the settyng || out of it. There bee a thousand
+recordes and examples in the holy Bible agaynst such as be
+farre wyde from knowledge, and lye now walteryng styl in
+ignoraunce and will not looke vpon the bible. It woulde
+seme, they hope for a thyng, but their hope is in vaine:
+For saint Paule plainely writeth the hope of suche ypocrites
+shall coo[~m] too nought. And too conclude (most honorable
+Prince) seeyng wee haue suche knowledge opened vnto vs, as
+neuer had englishe me, and are clearly deliuered from the
+snares and deceiptes of al false and wicked doctrine, if we
+shuld not now thakefully receaue the gospell, and shewe our
+selues naturally enclyned to set it forwarde, yea, and pray
+daye and night vnto God, for the preseruatio and health of
+the kynges highnes, your graces deare, and most entierly
+beloued father, we were neither true subiectes nor ryght
+christen men. Forsoth, through the absolute wisedome, and
+the most godly and politike prudencie of his grace, the
+swete sounde of gods woorde is gone ||B.ii.|| thorough out
+all this realme, the holye Bible and blessed testament of
+oure sauiour Christ are coo[~m]ne to lighte, and thousandes
+haue faithfully receiued those pleasaunt, ioyfull, and most
+comfortable promises of God. Surely this thyng before all
+other, is acceptable too god. This thyng especially swageth
+ye ire of god. This thyng in all holi scriptures god most
+chiefly requireth of his elect & faithfull seruautes, euen
+too haue his lytell flocke knowe his blessed woorde, whiche
+woulde bee muche better knowe & more thankefulli receaued,
+yf al agees and degrees of men with one mynd, wyll, & voice,
+would nowe drawe after one lyne, leauyng their owne priuate
+affections, and shewe theim selues euer vigilant, prompt,
+& ready helpers & workers with God, (accordynge to
+the councell of sainct Paule) & especially priestes,
+scolemaisters & paretes, which accordyng too ye Prophete
+Dauid are blessed, if they gladly requite ye lawe of God.
+They shuld therfore reade ye bible & purdge theyr mindes of
+al papistry: for theyr || necligence, in dooyng their duties
+& slugishnes toward ye blessed woord of god, dooeth too
+muche appere. Through them forsoth the gospel of Christ
+shuld bee most strongely warded and defended, for almost
+all the Prophetes, and a great parte of the scripture beside
+teache them their duties, and shew playnely what maner of
+men they shulde bee: Yea, and how greuously the holy
+Prophetes crie out vpon false and ignoraunt priestes, the
+thyng is very euident. But through the helppe of God all
+those that be ignoraunt, or els learned (as they take them
+selues) wyll leaue of, and repent them of their wicked and
+obstinate blyndnes, and bowe them selues with all
+oportunitie too draw mens heartes too the holy testament
+of God: consideryng, that in the terrible day of iudgement,
+euery ma shall yeoue accompte of his Beliwicke, where
+neither ignorauce shall excuse vs, ne yet any worldly pope
+may defed vs. Most happye the shall they bee, whiche haue
+walked iustely in the sight of the Lorde, and ||B.iii.||
+that haue syncerely preached his testament and lyuely woord
+withoute flattery or iuggelyng: Yea, and in that fearful
+day, all they (as writeth S. Augustine) shal fynde mercie
+at the handes of god, whiche haue entised and allured other
+vnto goodnes and vertue. Weiyng this with my self, (most
+excellent, and vnto all kynd of vertues most propt & prestat
+Prince) I thought it good too translate this Dialoge, called
+the Epicure, for your grace: whiche semed too me, too bee
+very familiar, & one of ye godliest Dialoges that any ma
+hath writte in ye latin tong. Now therfore I most humili
+praie, that this my rude & simple traslation may bee
+acceptable vnto your grace, trustyng also that your most
+approued gentilnes, wil take it in good part. There as I
+doo not folow ye latyn, woord for woord, for I omytte that
+of a certaine set purpose.
+
+       _Your humile seruaunt, Philyppe_
+           Gerrard, groume of your
+                graces Chambre.
+
+       *       *       *       *       *
+
+              The interlocutours
+
+             {HEDONIVS} {SPVDEVS}
+
+What meaneth hit _Spudeus_, too applye hys booke so
+ernestlye I praye you what is the matter you murmour so with
+yourselfe? _SPVDEVS._ The truth is (O _Hedoni_) I seke too
+haue knowledge of a thing, but as yet I cannot fynde that
+whych maketh for my purpose. _HEDO_ What booke haue you
+there in your bosome? _SPVDE. Ciceros_ ||dialoge of the
+endes of goodnes. _HEDO._ It had bene farre more better for
+you, too haue sought for the begynnynges of godly thynges,
+then the endes. _SPVDE._ Yea, but _Marcus Tullius_ nameth
+that the ende of godlines which is an exquisite, a far
+passing, and a very absolute goodnes in euerye puincte,
+wherein there is contained all kynde of vertu: vnto the
+knowledge ther of whosoeuer can attaine, shuld desire none
+other thig, but hold himselfe hauyng onely that, as one most
+fully content and satisfied. _HED._ That is a worke of very
+great learning and eloquence. But doo you thynke, that you
+haue preuailed in any thig there, whereby you haue the
+||rather come too the knowledge of the truth? _SPE._ I
+haue had such fruite and comoditie by it, that now verelye
+hereafter I shall doubt more of the effect and endes of good
+thinges, then I did before. _HEDO._ It is for husbad menne
+too stande in doubt how farre the limittes and merebakes
+extend. _SPE._ And I cannot but muse styll, yea, and wonder
+very muche, why ther hath been so great controuersie in
+iudgementes vpon so weightie a matter (as this is) emongist
+so well learned menne: especially suche as bee most famous
+and auncient writers. _HEDO._ This was euen the cause, where
+the verite of a thyng is playne and manifest, cotrarily, ye
+errour through || ignoraunce againe in the same, is soone
+great & by diuers meanes encreaseth, for that thei knewe not
+the foundation and first beginnyng of the whole matter, they
+doo iudge at all auentures and are very fondly disceaued,
+but whose sentence thynke you too bee truest? _SPE._ Whan
+I heare _MARCVS Tullius_ reproue the thyng, I then fatasie
+none of all their iudgementes, and whan I heare hym agayne
+defende the cause: it maketh me more doubtfull the euer I
+was and am in suche a studie, that I can say nothyng. But
+as I suppose ye Stoickes haue erred the lest, and nexte vnto
+the I commend the _Peripatetickes_. _HEDo._ Yet I lyke none
+of their opinions || so well as I doo the Epicures. _SPV._
+And emogist all the sectes: the _Epicures_ iudgement is most
+reproued and condemned with the whole consent and arbitremet
+of all menne. _HED._ Let vs laye a side all disdayne and
+spite of names, and admitte the Epicure too bee suche one,
+as euery man maketh of hym. Let vs ponder and weighe the
+thyng as it is in very deed. He setteth the high and
+principall felicitie of man in pleasure, and thiketh that
+lyfe most pure and godly, whiche may haue greate delectatio
+and pleasure, and lytle pensiuenes. _SPV._ It is euen so.
+_HED._ What more vertuouser thyng, I praye you, is possible
+too bee spoke then this || saiyng. _Spu._ Yea, but all menne
+wonder and crye out on it, and saye: it is the voyce of a
+bruite beast, and not of manne. _Hedo._ I knowe thei doo so,
+but thei erre in ye vocables of theise thinges, and are very
+ignoraunt of the true and natiue significations of the
+woordes, for if wee speake of perfecte thynges, no kinde of
+menne bee more righter _Epicures_, then Christen men liuing
+reueretly towardes God and ma, and in the right seruice and
+worshiping of Christ. _SPV_ But I thinke the _Epicures_ bee
+more nerer and agree rather with the _Cynickes_, then with
+the Christien sorte: forsoth ye Christiens make them selues
+leane || with fastynge, bewayle and lament their offences,
+and eyther they bee nowe poore, or elles theyr charitie and
+liberalitie on the nedye maketh theim poore, thei suffer
+paciently to bee oppressed of mene that haue great power and
+take many wronges at their handes, and many men also laughe
+theim too skorne. Nowe, if pleasure brynge felicitie wyth
+it, or helpe in anye wyse vnto the furderaunce of vertue:
+we see playnly that this kynde of lyfe is fardest from al
+pleasures. _Hedonius._ But doo you not admitte _Plautus_ too
+bee of authoritie? _Speudeus._ Yea, yf he speake vprightely.
+_Hedonius._ Heare nowe them, and beare awaye wyth you the
+saiynge of || an vnthriftie seruaunt, whyche is more wyttier
+then all the paradoxes of the Stoickes. _SPE._ I tarie
+to heare what ye wil say. _HEDO._ Ther is nothyng more
+miserable then a mynd vnquiet & agreued with it selfe.
+_SPE._ I like this saiyng well, but what doo you gather of
+it? _HEDO._ If nothing bee more miserable the an vnquiet
+mynde, it foloweth also, that there is nothing happiar, then
+a mynde voyde of all feare, grudge, and vnquietnes. _SPEV._
+Surely you gather the thing together with good reaso but
+that notwithstandynge, in what countrie shall you fynde any
+such mynde, that knoweth not it selfe gyltie and culpable in
+some kynde of euell, _HEDO._ || I call that euyll, whiche
+dissolueth the pure loue and amitie betwixt God and manne.
+_SPV._ And I suppose there bee verye fewe, but that thei bee
+offeders in this thynge. _HEDO._ And in good soth I take it,
+that al those that bee purdged, are clere: whych wiped out
+their fautes with lee of teares, and saltpeter of sorowfull
+repentaunce, or els with the fire of charitie, their offeces
+nowe bee not only smalle grefe and vnquietnes too them, but
+also chaunce ofte for some more godlier purpose, as causing
+the too lyue afterward more accordyngly vnto Gods
+commaudemetes. _SPV._ In deede I knowe saltpeter and lee,
+but yet I neuer hearde before, that faultes || haue been
+purdged with fire. _H._ Surely, if you go to the minte you
+shall see gould fyned wyth fyre, notwithstadyng that ther
+is also, a certaine kynde of line that brenneth not if it
+bee cast in ye fyre, but loketh more whiter then any water
+coulde haue made it, & therefore it is called _Linum
+asbestinum_, a kynde of lynen, whyche canne neither bee
+quenched with water nor brent with fyre. _Spu._ Nowe in
+good faith you bring a paradox more woderful then all the
+maruailous and profound thynges of the Stoickes: lyue thei
+pleasasauntly whom Chryst calleth blessed for that they
+mourne & lament? _Hedonius._ Thei seme too the worlde too
+mourne, but || verely they lyue in greate pleasure, and as
+the commune saiynge is, thei lyue all together in pleasure,
+in somuche that _SARDANAPALVS_, _Philoxenus_, or _Apitius_
+compared vnto them: or anye other spoken of, for the greate
+desyre and study of pleasures, did leade but a sorowefull
+and a myserable lyfe. _Spe._ These thinges that you declare
+bee so straunge and newe, that I can scarcelye yeoue any
+credite vnto them. _Hedo._ Proue and assaye them ones, and
+you shall fynde all my saiynges so true as the Gospell, and
+immediatly I shal bryng the thynge too suche a conclusion
+(as I suppose) that it shall appeare too differ very lytle
+from the truth ||C.i|| _SPV._ make hast then vnto your
+purpose. _HED._ It shalbe doone if you wyll graunt me
+certayne thynges or I begynne. _Spu._ If in case you
+demaunde suche as bee resonable. _Hedo._ I wyl take myne
+aduauntage, if you confesse the thyng that maketh for mine
+intent. _Spu._ go too. _Hedo._ I thynke ye wyll fyrste
+graunt me, that ther is great diuersitie betwxt the solle
+and the bodye _Spu._ Euen as much as there is betwene heauen
+and yearth, or a thyng earthly and brute, & that whiche
+dieth neuer, but alwayes cotaineth in it the godly nature.
+_Hedo._ And also, that false deceiueable & couterfetted holy
+thynges, are not too bee taken for those, which in very dede
+be || godly. _Spude._ No more then the shaddowes are too
+bee estemed for the bodies, or the illusions and wonders of
+wytchcraftes or the fantasies of dreames, are too bee taken
+as true thynges. _HE._ Hitherto you answer aptly too my
+purpose, and I thynke you wyl graunt me this thyng also,
+that true and godly pleasure can reste and take place no
+where but only on such a mynd that is sobree and honest.
+_SPV._ What elles? for no man reioyseth too beholde the
+Sunne, if his eyes bee bleared or elles delecteth in wyne,
+if the agew haue infected hys tast. _HED._ And the _Epicure_
+hymselfe, or elles I am disceiued, would not clippe &
+enbrace that pleasure, whiche ||C.ii.|| would bring with
+it farre greater payne and suche as would bee of long
+continuaunce. _SPV_ I thynke he woulde not, if he had any
+wytte at all. _HED._ Nor you wyll not denye this, that God
+is the chiefe and especiall goodnes, then who there is
+nothyng fayrer, there is nothyng ameabler, ther is nothing
+more delicious and swetter. _SPVDE._ No man wyll deny thys
+except he bee very harde hearted and of an vngentler nature
+then the _Ciclopes_. _HED._ Nowe you haue graunted vnto
+me, that none lyue in more pleasure, then thei whyche lyue
+vertuouslye, and agayne, none in more sorowe and calamytie
+then those that || lyue vngratiously. _Spu._ Then I haue
+grauted more the I thought I had. _He._ But what thing you
+haue ones cofessed too bee true (as _Plato_ sayth) you
+should not deny it afterward. _SPV._ Go furth with your
+matter. _HEDO_ The litle whelpe that is set store and greate
+price by, is fed most daintely, lieth soft, plaieth and
+maketh pastime continually, doo you thinke that it lyueth
+plesautly? _SPV._ It dooeth truely. _HEDO._ Woulde you wyshe
+to haue suche a lyfe? _SPV._ God forbyd that, excepte I
+woulde rather bee a dogge then a man, _HEDO._ Then you
+confesse that all the chief pleasures arise and spring
+fro the mynd, as though it were from a welspryng. _SPV._
+||C.iii|| That is euident ynough. _HE._ Forsoth the strength
+and efficacy of the minde is so great, that often it taketh
+away the felyng of al externe and outward pain & maketh that
+pleasaunt, which by it selfe is very peynful. _SPV._ We se
+that dayly in louers, hauyng great delight to sytte vp long
+& too daunce attendaunce at their louers doores all the
+colde wynter nyghtes. _HEDo._ Now weigh this also, if the
+naturall loue of man, haue suche great vehemency in it,
+which is a comune thyng vnto vs, both with bulles and
+dogges, howe much more should all heauenly loue excell
+in vs, which cometh of ye spirit of Christ, whose stregthe
+is of suche power, that it ||would make death a thig most
+terrible, too bee but a pleasure vnto vs. _Spu._ What other
+men thike inwardly I know not, but certes thei wat many
+pleasures which cleaue fast vnto true and perfect vertue.
+_He._ What pleasures? _Spu._ Thei waxe not rich, thei optein
+no promotio, thei baket not, thei dauce not, thei sing not,
+thei smell not of swete oyntmetes, thei laugh not, thei
+play not. _He._ We should haue made no mention in thys
+place of ryches and prefermente, for they bryng wyth them
+no pleasaunt lyfe, but rather a sadde and a pesiue. Let vs
+intreate of other thynges, suche as they chiefely seeke for,
+whose desyre is to liue deliciously, see ye not daily
+||C.iiii|| drokerdes, fooles, and mad menne grinne and
+leape? _SPV._ I see it _HED._ Do you thynke that thei liue
+most pleasautly? _SPV_ God send myne enemies such myrth &
+pleasure. _HE._ Why so? _Sp._ For ther lacketh emongist the
+sobrietie of mind. _HE._ Then you had leuer sit fastyng at
+your booke, then too make pastime after any suche sorte.
+_SP._ Of the both: truly I had rather chose to delue.
+_H._ For this is plaine that betwixt the mad ma & the
+drukerd ther is no diuersitie, but that slepe wil helpe the
+one his madnes, & with much a doo ye cure of _Physicions_
+helpeth the other, but the foole natural differeth nothing
+fro a brute beast except by shape and portrature of body,
+yet thei || be lesse miserable whom nature hathe made verye
+brutes, then those that walowe theim selues in foule and
+beastly lustes. _SP._ I confesse that. _Hedo._ But now tell
+me, whether you thynke the sobre and wyse, which for playn
+vanities and shadowes of plesure, booth dispice the true
+and godlye pleasures of the mynde and chose for them selues
+suche thynges as bee but vexacion & sorowe. _SPV._ I take
+it, thei bee not. _Hedo._ In deede thei bee not druke with
+wyne, but with loue with anger, with auarice, with ambicion,
+and other foule and filthie desires, whiche kynde of
+drunkenes is farre worse, the that is gotten with drinking
+of wine. Yet _Sirus_ that leude cospanio ||of whom mention
+is made in ye commedie, spake witty thynges after he had
+slepte hym self soobre, and called too memorie his greate
+and moost beastlye drunkenes: but the minde that is infected
+with vicious & noughty desire, hath muche a doo too call it
+selfe whom agein? How many yeares doeth loue, anger, spite,
+sensualitie, excesse, and ambition, trouble and prouoke the
+mynde? How many doo wee see, whiche euen from their youth,
+too their latter dais neuer awake nor repet them of the
+drunkennes, of ambitio, nigardnes, wanton lust, & riatte?
+_Spu._ I haue knowen ouermany of that sorte. _Hedo._ You
+haue grauted that false and fayned good || thinges, are not
+too bee estemed for the pure and godly. _Sp._ And I affirme
+that still. _Hedo._ Nor that there is no true and perfect
+pleasure, except it bee taken of honest and godly thynges.
+_Spud._ I confesse that. _He._ Then (I pray you) bee not
+those good that the commune sorte seeke for, they care not
+howe? _Spu._ I thinke they be not. _Hedo._ Surely if thei
+were good, they would not chaunce but onely too good men:
+and would make all those vertuous that they happen vntoo.
+What maner of pleasure make you that, doo you thinke it too
+bee godly, which is not of true & honest thynges, but of
+deceatfull: and coometh out of ye shadowes of good thynges?
+_Sp._ || Nay in noo wyse. _He._ For pleasure maketh vs to
+liue merely. _Spu._ Yea, nothyng so muche. _He._ Therfore
+no man truely liueth pleasauntly, but he that lyueth godly:
+that is, whiche vseth and delecteth onli in good thynges:
+for vertue of it selfe, maketh a man to habound in all
+thynges that bee good, perfete, & prayse worthy: yea, it
+onely prouoketh God the fountaine of all goodnes, too loue
+and fauour man. _SP._ I almost consent with you. _HED._
+But now marke howe far they bee from all pleasure, whiche
+seeme openly emongist all men too folowe nothyng, but the
+inordinate delectation in in thynges carnall. || First their
+mynde is vile, and corrupted with the sauour and taste of
+noughtie desires, in so muche that if any pleasaunt thing
+chaunce them, forthwith it waxeth bitter, and is nought set
+by, in like maner as where ye welle hed is corrupted and
+stynketh, there ye water must nedes be vnsauery. Agein ther
+is no honest pleasure, but that whiche wee receaue with a
+sobre and a quiet mynde. For wee see, nothyng reioyseth the
+angry man more, the too bee reuenged on his offenders, but
+that pleasure is turned into pain after his rage bee past,
+and anger subdued. _Spu._ I say not the contrary.
+_He._ Finally, suche leude pleasures bee taken of fallible
+thinges, therefore || it foloweth that they be but delusios
+and shadowes. What woulde you say furthermore, if you saw
+a ma so deceaued with sorcerie & also other detestable
+witchecraftes, eat, drynke, leap, laugh, yea, and clappe
+handes for ioye, when ther wer no such thyng there in very
+dede, as he beleueth he seeth. _Spu._ I wolde say he were
+both mad and miserable. _Hedo._ I my self haue been often
+in place, where the lyke thyng hath been doone. There was
+a priest whiche knewe perfectly by longe experience and
+practise, the arte to make thynges seme that they were not,
+otherwise called, _deceptio visus_. _Sp._ He did not lerne
+that arte of the holy scripture? _Hedo._ Yea, || rather of
+most popeholy charmes and witchecraftes: that is too saye,
+of thinges, cursed, dampnable, and wourthy too bee abhorred.
+Certayne ladies & gentlewomen of the courte, spake vnto hym
+oftentimes: saiyng, they woulde coo[~m] one day too his
+house and see what good chere he kept: reprouyng, greatly
+vile and homly fare, and moderate expenses in all thynges.
+He graunted they shulde bee welcome, and very instauntly
+desired them. And they came fastyng because they would
+haue better appetites. Wha they wer set to dyner (as it was
+thought) ther wated noo kynde of delitious meat: they filled
+the selues haboudantly: after ye feast was || doone, they
+gaue moost hearty thanckes, for their galaunte cheare, and
+departed, euery one of them vnto their owne lodgynges: but
+anone their stomackes beganne too waxe an hungred, they
+maruayled what this shuld meane, so soone to be an hungred
+and a thirste, after so sumptuous a feast: at the last the
+matter was openly knowen and laught at. _Spu._ Not without a
+cause, it had been muche better for the too haue satisfied
+their stomackes at their owne chabers with a messe of
+potage, the too be fed so delitiousli with vain illusios.
+_H._ And as I thik ye comune sort of men ar muche more too
+bee laught at, whiche in steede of Godlye thynges, ||chose
+vaine and transitory shadowes, and reioyce excedyngly in
+suche folishe phansies that turne not afterwarde in too
+a laughter, but into euerlasting lamentation and sorow.
+_Spudeus_ The more nerelier I note your saiynges, the better
+I like the. _Hedo._ Go too, let vs graunt for a tyme these
+thynges too bee called pleasaunt, that in very dede ar not.
+Would yow saye that meeth were swete: whiche had more Aloes
+myngled with it, then honye? _Spud._ I woulde not so say and
+if there were but the third part of an ounce of Aloes mixt
+with it. _Hedo._ Or els, would you wishe to bee scabbed
+because you haue some pleasure too scratch? _Spud._ Noo, if
+I wer ||D.i|| in my right mynd. _HED._ Then weigh with your
+self how great peyne is intermyngled wyth these false and
+wrongly named pleasures, that vnshamefast loue filthie
+desire, much eatyng and drinking bring vs vnto: I doo omitte
+now that, which is principall grudge of coscience, enemitie
+betwixt God and ma, and expectation of euerlastyng
+punishement. What kynd of pleasure, I pray you is ther in
+these thinges, that dooeth not bryng with it a greate heape
+of outeward euilles? _SPV._ What bee thei? _HEDO._ We ought
+to let passe and forbeare in this place auarice, ambition,
+wrath, pryde enuy, whiche of their selues bee heuy and
+sorowful euylles and || let vs conferre and compare all
+those thynges together, that haue the name of some chief and
+special pleasure: wher as the agew the hedache, the swelling
+of the belly, dulnes of witte, infamy, hurt of memory,
+vomyting, decaye of stomacke, tremblyng of the body succede
+of ouer muche drynking: thynke you, that the _Epicure_ would
+haue estemed any suche lyke pleasure as thys, couenient and
+wourthy desire? _SPV._ He woulde saye it wer vtterly too bee
+refused. _HEDONi._ Wheras young men also with hauntynge of
+whores (as it is dayly seene) catche the newe leprosie, nowe
+otherwyse named Jobs agew, and some cal it the scabbes of
+Naples, throughe ||D.ii|| which desease they feele often ye
+most extreme and cruell paines of deathe euen in this lyfe,
+and cary about a bodye resemblyng very much some dead coarse
+or carryn, do you thynke that thei apply them selues vnto
+godlye pleasure. _SPVD._ Noo, for after thei haue been often
+familiar with their prety ones, then they must goo streighte
+too the barbours, that chaunceth continuallye vnto all
+whoremongers. _HED._ Now fayne that ther wer a lyke measure
+of pain and plesure, would ye then require too haue the
+toothache so longe as the pleasure of quaffing & whordome
+endured? _SPV._ Verely I had rather wat them booth, for ther
+is no commoditie nor || vantage to bye pleasure with payn
+but only to chaug one thing for another, but the best choise
+is nowe not too affectionate anye such leudnes, for _MAR.
+Tullius_ calleth that an inward greife & sorow. _He._ But
+now ye prouocation & entisemet of vnleful plesure, besides
+that it is much lesse then the pain which it bringeth with
+it, it is also a thing of a very short time: but if the
+leprosye bee ones caught, it tourmeteth me al their life
+daies very pitifully & oftentimes costraineth them to wyshe
+for death before thei ca dye. _SP._ Such disciples as those
+then, the _Epicure_ would not knowe. _HED._ For the most
+part pouertie, a very miserable and painfull burden,
+foloweth ||D.iii.|| lechery, of immoderate lust cometh the
+palsie, tremblyng of ye senewes, bleardnes of eyes, and
+blyndnes, the leprosie and not these only, is it not a
+proper pece of worke (I pray you) to chaug this short
+pleasure neyther honest nor yet godly, for so manye euylles
+far more greuouse and of muche longer continuance.
+_SP._ Although there shoulde no pain com of it, I esteme
+hym to bee a very fond occupier, which would chauge precious
+stones for glasse. _HE._ You meane that would lose the godly
+pleasures of the mynde, for the coloured pleasures of ye
+body. _SP._ That is my meanyng. _HE._ But nowe let vs come
+to a more perfecter supputation, neither the agewe || nor
+yet pouerty foloweth alwaies carnal pleasure, nor the new
+leprosy or els the palsy wait not on at al times the great &
+excessiue vse of lecherye, but grudge of cosiece euermore is
+a folower & sure companio of al vnleaful pleasure, then the
+which as it is plainly agreed betwixt vs, nothyng is more
+miserable. _SPV._ Yea, rather it grudgeth their coscience
+sometyme before hande, & in the self pleasure it pricketh
+their mynde, yet ther bee some that you woulde say, want
+this motion and feelyng. _HE._ Thei bee nowe therfore in
+worse estate & coditio. Who would not rather feele payne,
+then too haue hys body lacke any perfecte sence, truly from
+some ether intemperatnes ||D.iiii.|| of euel desires, euen
+like as it were a certayne kynde of drunkenes, or els wont
+and comune haunt of vice which ar so hardened in them, that
+they take a way ye felyng & cosideration of euyl in their
+youth, so that wha agee commeth vpo them beside other
+infinitie hurtes and perturbations agaynst whose commyng
+thei should haue layd vp the deedes of their former lyfe,
+as a special iuwel and treasure: then thei stande greatly in
+fear of death, a thyng emongist all other most ineuitable,
+& that no man canne shonne: yea, and the more they haue
+heretofore been dysmayed and lacked their sences, the
+greater now is their vnquietnes and grudge of || conscience,
+then truely the mynde is sodenly awaked whether it wol or
+noo, and verely wher as olde agee is alwayes sad and heuy
+of it selfe for as muche as it is in subiection and bondage
+vnto many incommodities of nature, but then it is farre more
+wretchede and also fylthye, if the mynde vnquiet with it
+selfe shal trouble it also: feastes, ryotous banketyng,
+syngyng, and daunsynge, with manye suche other wanton toyes
+& pastimes which he was communely yeoue vnto & thought very
+plesaut when he was young, bee nowe paynfull vnto hym beyng
+olde and crooked, ne agee hath nothyng too comforte and
+fortifi || it selfe withall, but onely too remembre that it
+hath passed ouer the course of yeares in vertue and godly
+liuyng and conceaue a special trust too obtaine herafter a
+better kynde of life. These be the two staues wherevpon age
+is stayed, & if in their steed you wyll lay on hym these
+two burdens: that is, memorie how synfully he hath ledde his
+life, and desperation of the felicitie that is too coome,
+I praye you what liuyng thyng can bee feyned too suffre
+sorer punishement and greater miserie? _spu._ Verely I can
+see nothyng although some man woulde saye an olde horse.
+_hedo._ Then to coclude it is too late to waxe wise And that
+saiyng appereth now || too bee very true. Carefull mornynges
+doo oftentymes folowe mery euentides, and all vayne and
+outragious mirth euer turneth into sorowfull sighes: yea, &
+they shulde haue considered both that there is noo pleasure
+aboue ye ioyfulnes of the heart, and that chearefull mynde
+maketh agee too florishe, an heauy spirit consumeth the
+boones, & also that all the dayes of the poore are euell:
+that is, sorowfull and wretched. And agayne a quiet mynde is
+lyke a contynuall feaste. _SPVDEVS._ Therfore they bee wyse,
+that thryue in tyme, and gather too gether necessaries for
+that agee coo[~m]. _HEDONI._ The holy scripture intreateth
+not soo wordely || as too measure the felicitie and highe
+consolation of manne, by the goodes of fortune, onely he
+is very poore, that is destitute and voyde of al grace &
+vertue, and standeth in boundage and debette, bothe of bodye
+& solle vnto that tyranne oure moost foo & mortall enemie
+the deuill. _SPV._ Surely he is one that is veri rigorous
+and impatient in demaundynge of his dutie. _HE._ Moreouer
+that man is ryche, whiche fyndeth mercye and foryeouenes at
+the handes of god. What shuld he feare, that hath suche a
+protectour? Whether men? where as playnely theyr hole power
+may lesse do agaest God, then the bytyng of a gnat, ||
+hurteth the Elephant. Whether death? truly that is a right
+passage for good men vnto all sufficient ioy and perfection
+accordyng too the iust reward of true religion and vertue.
+Whether hell? For as in that the holy prophete speaketh
+boldely vnto God. Although I shulde walke in the middest of
+the shadow of death, I wil not feare any euils because ye
+art with me. Wherfore shulde he stande in feare of deuils,
+whiche beareth in his heart hym, that maketh the deuils too
+tremble and quake. For in diuers places the holye scripture
+praiseth and declareth opely the mynde of a vertuous man,
+too bee the right temple of God. And this to bee so true
+that || that it is not too bee spoken agaynst, ne in any
+wise shuld bee denied. _SPV._ Forsoth I can not see, by what
+reason these saiynges of yours can be confuted al thoughe
+they seme too varye muche from the vulgar and comune
+opinion of men. _HEDO._ Why doo they soo? _SPV._ After
+your reasonyng euery honest poore man, shulde liue a more
+pleasaunt life, then any other, how much soeuer he did
+haboud in riches, honour, and dignitie: and breuely though
+he had all kynde of pleasures. _HE._ Adde this too it (if it
+please you) too bee a kyng, yea, or an emperour if you take
+away a quiet mynd with it selfe, I dare boldely say, that
+the poore man sklenderlye || and homely appareled, made
+weake with fastyng, watchyng, great toile and labour, and
+that hath scarcely a groat in all the worlde, so that his
+mynde bee godly, he lyueth more deliciously then that man
+whiche hathe fyue hudreth times greater pleasures &
+delicates, then euer had _Sardanapalus_. _SP._ Why is it
+the, that we see communely those that bee poore looke farre
+more heuely then riche men. _HED._ Because some of them bee
+twise poore, eyther some desease, nedines, watchyng, labour,
+nakednesse, doo soo weaken the state of their bodyes, that
+by reason therof, the chearefulnes of their myndes neuer
+sheweth it selfe, neyther in these thinges, || nor yet in
+their deathe. The mynde, forsooth thoughe it bee inclosed
+within this mortal bodye, yet for that it is of a stronger
+nature, it sowhat trasfourmeth and fascioneth the bodie
+after it selfe, especially if the vehement instigation of
+the spirit approche the violent inclination of nature: this
+is the cause we see oftentymes suche men as bee vertuous die
+more cherefully, then those that make pastyme contynually,
+& bee yeoue vnto all kynd of pleasures. _SP._ In very dede,
+I haue meruayled oftten at that thyng. _HED_ Forsoothe it is
+not a thyng too bee marueyled at, though that there shulde
+bee vnspeakeable || ioy and comforte where God is present,
+whiche is the heed of all mirth and gladnes, nowe this is
+no straunge thyng, althoughe the mynde of a godly man doo
+reioyce contynually in this mortall bodye: where as if the
+same mynde or spirit discended into the lowest place of hell
+shuld lose no parte of felicitie, for whersoeuer is a pure
+mynd, there is god, wher God is: there is paradise, ther is
+heauen, ther is felicitie, wher felicitie is: ther is the
+true ioy and synsere gladnes. _SP._ But yet they shuld liue
+more pleasauntly, if certein incommodities were taken from
+them, and had suche pastymes as eyther they dispise orels
+can not get nor attaine vnto. _HE._ ||E.i.|| (I praye you)
+doo you meane, suche incommodities as by the commune course
+of nature folow the codition or state of ma: as hunger,
+thirst, desease, werynes, age, death, lyghtnyng yearthquake,
+fluddes & battail? _SPV._ I meane other, and these also.
+_HEDO._ Then we intreate styll of mortal thynges and not of
+immortal, & yet in these euils the state of vertuous men,
+may bee better borne withal, then of suche as seeke for the
+pleasures of the body they care not howe. _SPV._ Why so:
+_HEDO._ Especyally because their myndes bee accustomed and
+hardened with most sure and moderate gouernaunce of reason
+against al outragious affections of the mind || and they
+take more patiently those thynges that cannot bee shonned
+then the other sort doo Furthermore, for as muche as thei
+perceiue, all such thynges ar sent of god, either for the
+punishment of their faultes, or els too excitate and sturre
+them vp vnto vertue, then thei as meeke and obediente
+chyldren receiue them from the had of their mercifull
+father, not only desireously, but also chearefully and
+geue thankes also, namely for so merciful punyshment and
+inestimable gaines. _SPV._ But many doo occatio griefes
+vnto the selues. _HEDO._ But mo seeke remedye at the
+_Phisicions_, either to preserue their bodies in helth or
+elles if they bee sycke, too ||E.ii.|| recouer health, but
+willyngly too cause their owne sorowes, that is, pouertie,
+sickenes, persecution, slaunder, excepte the loue of God
+compel vs therto, it is no vertue but folishnes: but as
+often as thei bee punyshed for Christ and iustice sake,
+who dar bee so bold as too cal them beggers & wretches?
+wha the Lord himself very famyliarly calleth them blessed,
+and commaudeth vs to reioyse for their state and condition.
+_SPV._ Neuerthelesse, these thynges haue a certayne payne
+and griefe. _HEDO._ Thei haue, but on the onesyde, what for
+fear of hel, and the other for hoope of euerlastynge ioye,
+the payne is sone past and forgotte Now tell me if you
+knewe that || you myghte neuer bee sycke, or elles that you
+shoulde feele no payne of your body in your life tyme, if
+you woulde but ones suffer your vtter skinne too bee prycked
+with a pynnes puinct, would you not gladly and with all your
+very heart suffer then so lytle a payne as that is?
+_SPV_ Verye gladlye, yea, rather if I knewe perfectlye
+that my teeth would neuer ake, I would willynglye suffer
+too bee prycked depe with a nedle, and too haue both mine
+eares bored through with a bodkin. _HEDO._ Surely what payne
+soeuer happeneth in this lyfe, it is lesse and shorter,
+compared with the eternall paines, then is the soden pricke
+of a needle, incompariso of the ||E.iii.|| lyfe of man
+though it bee neuer so long, for there is no conuenience or
+proportion of the thyng that hath ende, and that whych is
+infinite. _SPV._ You speake very truly. _HEDO._ Now if a man
+coulde fully perswade you, that you should neuer feele payne
+in al your life, if you did but ones deuide the flame of ye
+fyre, with your hande, whyche thyng vndoughtely _Pithagoras_
+forbade, woulde you not gladlye doo it? _SPV._ Yea, on that
+condicion I had liefer doo it an hundred times, if I knew
+precisely the promiser would kepe touch. _HE._ It is playne
+God cannot deceaue. But now that feelyng of paine in the
+fyre is longer vnto the whole lyfe of man, then is the
+||lyfe of ma, in respect of the heauenlye ioye, althoughe
+it were thrise so long as ye yeares of _Nestor_, for that
+casting of the hand in the fyre thoughe it bee neuer so
+shorte, yet it is some parte of hys lyfe, but the whole
+lyfe of man is noo portion of tyme in respect of the eternal
+lyfe. _SPV._ I haue nothyng too saye against you.
+_HEDO._ Doo you then thyncke that anye affliction or
+tourment can disquiet those that prepare them selues wyth a
+chearful hearte and a stedfast hoope vnto the kyngedome of
+God, wher as the course of this lyfe is nowe so shorte?
+_SPVDE._ I thinke not, if thei haue a sure perswasion and a
+constant hope too attayne it. _HEDO._ I coome ||E.iiii.|| now
+vnto those pleasures, whiche you obiected agaynst me, they
+do wythdrawe them selues from daunsynge, bankettynge, from
+pleasaunte seeghtes, they dispyce all these thynges, as
+thus: for to haue the vse of thinges farre more ioyfulle,
+and haue as great pleasure as these bee, but after another
+sorte: the eye hath not seene, the eare hath not heard,
+nor the heart of man cannot thyncke what consolations _GOD_
+hathe ordeined for them that loue hym. Sayncte Paule knewe
+what maner of thynges shoulde bee the songes, queeres,
+daunsynges, and bankettes of vertuous myndes, yea, in this
+lyfe. _SPVDEVS_ but there bee some leafull || pleasures,
+whyche they vtterlye refuse. _HEDONIVS._ That maye bee, for
+the immoderate vse of leafull and godly games or pastymes,
+is vnleaful: and if you wyll excepte this one thing onlye,
+in al other thei excelle whiche seeme too leade a paynfull
+lyfe, and whome we take too bee ouerwhelmed with all kynd of
+miseries. Now I prai you what more roialler sight can ther
+be, then ye coteplatio of this world? and such men as ye be
+in fauour of god keping his holy comaudemetes & loue his
+most blessed testamet, receiue far geater pleasure in the
+syght therof, then thother sorte doo, for while thei behold
+wyth ouercurious eyes, ye woderful worke, their mynde || is
+troubled because they can not compasse for what purpose he
+doeth such thinges, then thei improue the moost righte and
+wise gouernour of all and murmour at his doinges as though
+they were goddes of reprehension: and often finde faute with
+that lady nature, and saye that she is vnnaturall, whiche
+taunt forsooth with as muche spite as can bee shewed with
+woordes, greueth nature: but truely it reboundeth on hym,
+that made nature, if there bee any at all. But the vertuous
+man with godly & simple eyes beholdeth with an excedyng
+reioyce of heart the workes of his Lorde and father highly
+praysyng the all, and neither reprehedeth nor || findeth
+faut with any of the, but for euery thyng yeoueth moste
+hearty thankes, when he considereth that al were made for
+the loue of man. And so in al thynges, he praieth vnto the
+infinite power, deuine wisedome, & goodnes of the maker,
+wherof he perceiueth moste euident tokens in thynges that
+bee here created. Now fain that there were suche a palace in
+verie deede as _Apuleus_ faineth, or els one that were more
+royall and gorgeouse, and that you shoulde take twoo thither
+with you too beholde it, the one a straunger, whiche gooeth
+for this intent onely too see the thyng, and the other the
+seruaut or soonne of hym that firste causeth this buyldyng,
+whether || will haue more delectie in it? the straunger, too
+whom suche maner of house dooeth nothyng appartain, or the
+soonne whiche beholdeth with greate ioye and pleasure, the
+witte, riches, and magnificence of his deerely beloued
+father, especially when he dooeth consider all this worke
+was made for his sake. _Sp._ Your question is too plain:
+for they most comunely that bee of euill condicions, knowe
+that heauen and all thinges contained therin, were made for
+mannes sake. _HEDO._ Almoste al knowe that, but some dooe
+not remembre it, shewyng theselues vnthakeful for the great
+and exhuberat benefittes of god, & al though thei remember
+it, yet that ma taketh || greater delight in the sight of it
+whiche hath more loue vnto the maker therof, in like maner
+as, he more chearfully wyll behold the element whiche
+aspireth towarde the eternall life. _SPV._ Your saiynges
+are muche like too bee true. _HED._ Nowe the pleasures of
+feastes dooeth not consist in the delicates of the mouth,
+nor in the good sauces of cookes, but in health of body
+and appetite of stomacke. You may not thynke that any
+delicious person suppeth more pleasauntly hauyng before hym
+partriches, turtelles, leuerettes, bekers, sturgeon, and
+lamprayes: then a vertuous man hauyng nothig too eat, but
+onely bread potage, or wortes: and nothyng || too drynke,
+but water, single bere, or wyne well alayde, be cause he
+taketh these thinges as prepared of God vnto all lyuyng
+creatures, and that they bee now yeoue vnto him of his
+gentyll and mercifull father, praier maketh euery thyng
+too sauour well. The petition in ye begynnyng of dyner
+sanctifieth all thynges and in a while after there is
+recited some holy lesson of the woorde of God: whiche more
+refresheth the minde, then meate the body, and grace after
+all this. Finally he riseth from the table, not ful: but
+recreated, not laden, but refreshed: yea, refreshed both in
+spirit and bodie, thynke you that any chief deuiser of these
+muche vsed bakets, & || deintye delicaces fareth nowe more
+deliciously? _SPudeus._ But in _Venus_ there is greate
+delectacions if we beleue _Arestotell_. _Hed._ And in this
+behalfe the vertuous manne far excelleth as well as in good
+fare, wiegh you now the matter as it is, the better a manne
+loueth his wife, the more he delecteth in the good felowship
+and familiaritie that is betwene theim after the course
+of nature. Furthermore, no menne loue their wiues more
+vehemetly then thei that loue theim eue soo, as Christ loued
+the churche. For thei that loue the for the desire of bodely
+pleasure, loue the not. More ouer, the seldomer any man
+dooeth accompany with his wife, the greater pleasure, it ||
+is to hym afterwarde, and that thyng the wato poete knew
+full well whiche writeth, rare and seldome vse stereth vp
+pleasures. Albeit, the lest parte of pleasure is in the
+familiare company betwene theim. There is forsothe far
+greater in the continuall leadyng of their liues too gether,
+whiche emongest none can be so plesaunt as those that loue
+syncerely and faithfully together in godly and christian
+loue, and loue a like one the other. In the other sort, ofte
+whethe pleasure of ye body decaieth & waxeth old loue waxeth
+coold & is sone forgotto, but emogest right christe me, the
+more ye the lust of ye flesh decreaseth & vanisheth away,
+ye more the al godly loue encreseth || Are you not yet
+perswaded that none lyue more pleasauntly the they whiche
+liue continually in vertue and true religio of god?
+_SP._ Would god all men were as well perswaded in that
+thyng. _He._ And if they bee Epicures that lyue pleasauntli:
+none bee righter Epicures then they that liue vertuously,
+and if we wyll that euery thyng haue it right name none
+deserueth more ye cogname of an Epicure, then that Prince of
+all godly wisedome too who most reueretly we ought alwaies
+too praye: for in the greeke tonge an Epicure signifieth
+an helper. Nowe whan the lawe of nature was first corrupted
+with sinne, whe the law of Moses did rather prouoke euil
+desires ||F.i.|| then remedy them. Wha the tyraunte Sathanas
+reygned in this worlde freely and wythout punishement, then
+thys prynce onely, dyd sodenlye helpe mankynde redy to
+perishe: wherfore thei erre shamefully which scoff and
+bable that _CHRIST_ was one that was sadd and of a
+malancolye nature, & that he hath prouoked vs vnto an
+vnpleasaunt kynde of lyfe, for onely he did shewe a kind
+of liuing most godly and fullest of al true pleasure, if
+we might haue the stone of _Tantalus_ taken awaye from vs.
+_SPVD._ What darke saiyng is this? _EDO._ It is a mery tale
+too laugh at, but this bourd induceth verye graue and sadde
+thynges. _SPV._ I tary too heare ||this mery conceite, that
+you name too bee so sage a matter. _HE_ Thei whiche gaue
+their studye and diligence to colour and set furth the
+preceptes of Philosophie wyth subtil fables, declare that
+there was one _Tantalus_ broughte vnto the table of the
+goddes, whych was euer furnished wyth all good fare, and
+most nete and sumptuous that myght bee, whan thys straunger
+shoulde take hys leave, Iupyter thought it was for his great
+liberalitie and highe renoume, that his guest shuld not
+depart wythout some rewarde, he wylled him therfore too
+aske what he woulde, and he shoulde haue it: _Tantalus_
+(forsooth) lyke a verye leude and foolyshe person, ||F.ii.||
+for that he sette all the felicitie and pleasure of man in
+the delectation of the bely, and glotonye, desired but
+only too sytte at suche a table all the dayes of hys life,
+Iupiter graunted him his desire, and shortly his vow was
+there stablished and ratifyed. _Tantalus_ nowe sytteth at
+the table furnyshed wyth all kindes of delicates, such
+drinke as the goddes druncke of was set on the table, and
+there wanted no rooses nor odours that could yeoue any swete
+smel before the Goddes, _Ganymedes_ the buttler or one lyke
+vnto hym, standeth euer redye, the _Muses_ stande rounde
+aboute syngyng pleasauntly, mery _Silenus_ daunseth, ne ther
+wanted noo fooles || too laugh at, and breuely, there was
+euerye thynge that coulde delyght any sence of ma but
+emongist all these, _Tantalus_ sytteth all sadde, syghyng,
+and vnquiet with hym selfe, neither laughing nor yet
+touching such thynges as were set before hym _SPVDE._ What
+was the cause? _HED._ Over his head as he sate there haged
+by an heere a great stone euer lyke too fall. _SPV._ I
+woulde then haue conueied my selfe from suche a table.
+_HEDO_ But his vowe had bound hym too the contrarye, for
+Iupyter is not so easye too intreate as oure _GOD_, which
+dooeth vnloose the pernitious vowes of menne, that bee made
+contrary vnto his holy woord, if thei bee ||F.iii.|| penitent
+and sorye therfore, or elles it myght bee thus, the same
+stoone that woulde not suffer hym too eate, would neither
+suffer hym to ryse, for if he had but ones moued he shuld
+haue been quashed al in peeses with the fall thereof.
+_SPVDE._ You haue shewed a very mery fable _HEDON._ But nowe
+heare that thing, which you wil not laugh at: the commune
+people seeke too haue a pleasaunt life in outwarde thynges,
+where as noothyng can yeoue that, but onely a constant and a
+quiet mind: for surely a far heuier stone hangeth ouer these
+that grudge with them selues, then hanged ouer _Tantalus_:
+it only hangeth not ouer them, but greueth and || oppresseth
+the mynde, ne the mind is not troubled wyth any vayn hoope,
+but looketh euery houre to bee caste in too the paynes of
+hell, I praye you what can bee so pleasaunt emongist all
+thinges that bee yeouen vnto man, that coulde reioyse the
+mynde, whyche were oppressed wyth suche a stoone?
+_SPVDE._ Truely there is nothyng but madnes, or elles
+incredulitie. _HEDO._ Yf younge menne woulde weygh these
+thynges, that bee quyckly prouoked and entised with pleasure
+as it were wyth the cuppe of _Circes_, whiche in steade of
+theyr greatest pleasures receiue poysone myxte with honye.
+Howe circumspecte would they bee too doo anye thynge
+||F.iiii|| vnaduisedly that shoulde grudge their mindes
+afterward? What thinge is it that thei would not doo too
+haue suche a godly treasure in store against their latter
+daies? that is a minde knowyng it selfe cleane & honest and
+a name that hath not been defiled at any time. But what
+thyng now is more miserable then is agee? Whan it beholdeth,
+and loketh backward on thinges that be past seeth plainly
+with great grudg of conscience howe fayre thynges he hathe
+despiced and sette lyght by, (that is, howe farre he hath
+discented and gone astray from the promyses made vnto God in
+baptime) & agayn, how foule & noughty thiges he hath clipped
+and enbraced, and wha || hee looketh forwarde, hee seeth
+then the daye of iudgemente drawe neere, and shortely after
+the eternall punyshemente of of hell. _SPVDE._ I esteme
+theim most happie whych haue neuer defyled theyr youthe,
+but euer haue increased in vertu, til thei haue coomne vnto
+the last puincte of age. _HEDO._ Next them thei ar too bee
+commended that haue wythdrawne theim selues from the folie
+of youth in tyme. _SPVDE._ But what councel wil you yeoue
+agee that is in suche great myserie. _HEDO._ No man shoulde
+dispayre so long as life endureth, I wyl exhorte him to
+flee for helpe vnto the infinitie mercye & gentilnes of God.
+_SP._ But the longer that he hath liued || the heape of his
+synnes hath euer waxen greate and greater, so that nowe it
+passeth the nomber of the sandes in the sea, _HE_ But the
+mercies of our lord far excede those sades, for although the
+sande can not bee numbred of manne, yet hit hath an ende,
+but the mercie of God neither knoweth ende, ne measure.
+_SP._ Yea but he hath no space that shall dye by and by,
+_HEDONI._ The lesse tyme he hath the more feruetly he should
+cal vnto god for grace, that thyng is long inough before
+God, whiche is of suche power as too ascende from the yearth
+vnto heaue, for a short prayer forsoth streght entreth
+heaue, if it bee made with a vehemet spirit. It is written,
+that || ye woma synner spoken of in the gospell did penaunce
+al her life dayes: but with how fewe wordes again did the
+thief obtain Paradise in the houre of death? If he will
+crye with hearte and mynde, God haue mercie on me after
+thy great mercie: God wil take awaye from hym _Tantalus_
+           stone and yeoue in his hea-
+              ryng ioye and cofort
+                and his bones hu-
+                 miled throughe
+                 cotrition, wil
+                    reioyse
+                     that
+                      he
+                hath his synnes
+                   foryeouen
+                      hym.
+
+                    *FINIS.*
+
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+         Imprinted at London within the
+      precinct of the late dissolued house
+        of the gray Friers, by Richarde
+            Grafton, Printer too the
+                 Princes grace.
+                   the. XXIX.
+             daie of Iuly, the yere
+                 of our Lorde.
+                    M.D.XLV.
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+B.5 _v_ - B.6
+  then this || saiyng.
+    _end of B.5v reads_ sai-/yng _including catchword_
+C.7 _v_
+  in too a laughter
+    _was_ in too a/a laughter _at line break_
+D.7 _v_
+  where god is present
+    _was_ where god is/is present _at line break_
+E.iii
+  it is no vertue but folishnes: but as often as thei bee punyshed
+    _was_ it is no-/vertue _at line break_
+    _and_ but as of-/often _at line break_
+E.8 _v_ - F.i
+  rather prouoke euil desires || then remedy them
+    _end of E.8v reads_ the/reme _including catchword_
+F.i _v_
+  to colour and set furth the preceptes
+    _was_ set-/furth _at line break_
+F.ii _v_
+  breuely, there was
+    _was_ breuely, there/there was _at line break_
+
+Irregularities in text (not changed):
+
+D.5
+  the two staues wherevpon age is stayed
+    _text reads_ ...where-/vpon _at line break_
+
+D.6
+  oure moost foo & mortal enemie
+    _unchanged_: ?fool (foul)
+
+
+Mismatched catchwords (text uses second form):
+
+C.iiii - C.iiii _v_
+    [bee] || be
+C.7 _v_ - C.8
+    [done] || doone
+D.iiii _v_ - D.5
+    [hym] || it
+D.8 - D.8 _v_
+    [ioye] || ioy
+D.8 _v_ - E.i
+    [I] || (I...
+E.ii _v_ - E.iii
+    [life] || lyfe
+E.iii _v_ - E.iiii
+    [nowe] || now
+E.iiii - E.iiii _v_
+    plea-[sure] || sures
+E.5 - E.5 _v_
+    [fyndeth] || findeth
+E.7 - E.7 _v_
+    [deyntie] || deintye
+F.iiii - F.iiii _v_
+    [he] || hee
+F.5 - V.5 _v_
+    [the] || [ye] ]
+
+
+
+
+
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