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diff --git a/.gitattributes b/.gitattributes new file mode 100644 index 0000000..6833f05 --- /dev/null +++ b/.gitattributes @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +* text=auto +*.txt text +*.md text diff --git a/13726-0.txt b/13726-0.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..40c7a2a --- /dev/null +++ b/13726-0.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5476 @@ +*** START OF THE PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK 13726 *** + +PLATO'S + +APOLOGY, CRITO AND PHÆDO +OF +SOCRATES. + + + + +Literally Translated By + +HENRY CARY, M.A., +_Worcester College, Oxford_ + + + + +With An Introduction By + +EDWARD BROOKS, JR. + + + + +CONTENTS. + + +INTRODUCTION + +THE APOLOGY OF SOCRATES + +INTRODUCTION TO THE CRITO + +CRITO; OR, THE DUTY OF A CITIZEN + +INTRODUCTION TO THE PHÆDO + +PHÆDO; OR, THE IMMORTALITY OF THE SOUL + + + + +INTRODUCTION. + + +Of all writers of speculative philosophy, both ancient and modern, there +is probably no one who has attained so eminent a position as Plato. What +Homer was to Epic poetry, what Cicero and Demosthenes were to oratory, +and what Shakespeare was to the drama of England, Plato was to ancient +philosophy, not unapproachable nor unapproached, but possessing an +inexplicable but unquestioned supremacy. + +The authentic records of his life are meagre, and much that has been +written concerning him is of a speculative nature. He was born at Athens +in the year 427 B.C. His father's name was Ariston, and his mother's +family, which claimed its descent from Solon, included among its members +many Athenian notables, among whom was Oritias, one of the thirty +tyrants. + +In his early youth Plato applied himself to poetry and painting, both of +which pursuits he relinquished to become the disciple and follower of +Socrates. It is said that his name was originally Aristocles, but that +it was changed to Plato on account of the breadth of his shoulders and +forehead. He is also said to have been an expert wrestler and to have +taken part in several important battles. + +He was the devoted friend and pupil of Socrates, and during the +imprisonment of his master he attended him constantly, and committed to +writing his last discourses on the immortality of the soul. + +After the death of Socrates it is supposed that Plato took refuge with +Euclides in Megara, and subsequently extended his travels into Magna +Graecia and Egypt. + +Upon his return to Athens he taught those who came to him for +instruction in the grove named Academus, near the Cephisus, and thus +founded the first great philosophical school, over which he continued to +preside until the day of his death. Above the entrance to this grove was +inscribed the legend: "Let no one ignorant of geometry enter here." Here +he was attended by persons of every description, among the more +illustrious of whom were Aristotle, Lycurgus, Demosthenes and Isocrates. + +There is a story to the effect that Plato three times visited Sicily, +once upon the invitation of the elder Dionysius, and twice at the +earnest solicitations of the younger. The former he is said to have so +seriously offended as to cause the tyrant to have him seized on his +return home and sold as a slave, from which state of bondage he was, +however, released by Anicerius of Cyrene. + +The people of his time thought more of him than they did of all their +other philosophers, and called him the Divine Plato. So great was the +regard and veneration for him that it was considered better to err with +Plato than be right with any one else. + +The writings of Plato are numerous, and most of them are in the form of +dialogues. The following pages contain translations of three of his +works, viz.: "The Apologia," "The Crito" and "The Phædo," all of which +have reference to the trial, imprisonment and death of Socrates. + +"The Apologia" represents Socrates on trial for his life, undertaking +his own defence, though unaccustomed to the language of the courts, the +occasion being, as he says, the first time he has ever been before a +court of justice, though seventy years of age. Plato was present at the +trial, and no doubt gives us the very arguments used by the accused. Two +charges were brought against Socrates--one that he did not believe in +the gods recognized by the State, the other that he had corrupted the +Athenian youth by his teachings. Socrates does not have recourse to the +ordinary methods adopted by orators on similar occasions. He prefers to +stand upon his own integrity and innocence, uninfluenced by the fear of +that imaginary evil, death. He, therefore, does not firmly grapple with +either of the charges preferred against him. He neither denies nor +confesses the first accusation, but shows that in several instances he +conformed to the religious customs of his country, and that he believes +in God more than he fears man. The second charge he meets by a +cross-examination of his accuser, Melitus, whom he reduces to the +dilemma of charging him with corrupting the youth designedly, which +would be absurd, or with doing so undesignedly, for which he could not +be liable to punishment. + +His defence, however, avails him nothing, and he is condemned by the +judges to die by drinking the poisonous hemlock. In the closing part of +"The Apologia" Socrates is represented as commenting upon the sentence +which has been passed upon him, and as expressing his belief that in +going to his death he is only passing to a better and a happier life. + +In "The Crito" Socrates is represented in conversation with a friend of +his named Crito, who had been present at his trial, and who had offered +to assist Socrates in paying a fine, had a fine been the sentence +imposed. Crito visits Socrates in his confinement to bring to him the +intelligence that the ship, the arrival of which was to be the signal +for his death upon the following day, would arrive forthwith, and to +urge him to adopt the means of escape which had already been prepared. +Socrates promises to follow the advice of Crito if, upon a full +discussion of the matter, it seems right to do so. In the conversation +which ensues Socrates argues that it is wrong to return evil for evil +and that the obligations which a citizen owes to his State are more +binding than those which a child owes his parents or a slave his master, +and, therefore, it is his duty to submit to the laws of Athens at +whatever cost to himself. Crito has no answer to make to this argument, +and Socrates thereupon decides to submit to his fate. + +Plato is said to have had two objects in writing this dialogue: First, +to acquit Socrates of the charge of corrupting the Athenian youth; and, +second, to establish the fact that it is necessary under all +circumstances to submit to the established laws of his country. + +"The Phædo" relates the manner in which Socrates spent the last day of +his life and the circumstances attending his death. He is visited by a +number of his friends, among whom are Phædo, Simmias and Crito. When his +friends arrive they find him sitting upon a bed rubbing his legs, which +have just been released from bonds. He remarks upon the unaccountable +connection between pleasure and pain, and from this the conversation +gradually turns to a consideration of the question of the immortality of +the soul. He convinces his listeners of the pre-existence of the soul; +but they are still skeptical as to its immortality, urging that its +pre-existence and the fact that it is more durable than the body does +not preclude the possibility of its being mortal. Socrates, however, +argues that contraries cannot exist in the same thing at the same time, +as, for example, the same object cannot partake of both magnitude and +littleness at the same time. In like manner, heat while it is heat can +never admit the idea of cold. Life and death are contraries and can +never coexist; but wherever there is life there is soul, so that the +soul contains that which is contrary to death and can never admit death; +consequently the soul is immortal. + +Having convinced his listeners, Socrates bathes and takes leave of his +children and the women of his family. Thereupon the officer appears and +tells him it is time for him to drink the poison. At this his friends +commence to weep and are rebuked by Socrates for their weakness. He +drinks the poison calmly and without hesitation, and then begins to walk +about, still conversing with his friends. His limbs soon grow stiff and +heavy and he lays himself down upon his back. His last words are: +"Crito, we owe a cock to Æsculapius; pay it, therefore, and do not +neglect it." + + + + +THE APOLOGY OF SOCRATES. + + +I know not, O Athenians! how far you have been influenced by my accusers +for my part, in listening to them I almost forgot myself, so plausible +were their arguments however, so to speak, they have said nothing true. +But of the many falsehoods which they uttered I wondered at one of them +especially, that in which they said that you ought to be on your guard +lest you should be deceived by me, as being eloquent in speech. For that +they are not ashamed of being forthwith convicted by me in fact, when I +shall show that I am not by any means eloquent, this seemed to me the +most shameless thing in them, unless indeed they call him eloquent who +speaks the truth. For, if they mean this, then I would allow that I am +an orator, but not after their fashion for they, as I affirm, have said +nothing true, but from me you shall hear the whole truth. Not indeed, +Athenians, arguments highly wrought, as theirs were, with choice phrases +and expressions, nor adorned, but you shall hear a speech uttered +without premeditation in such words as first present themselves. For I +am confident that what I say will be just, and let none of you expect +otherwise, for surely it would not become my time of life to come before +you like a youth with a got up speech. Above all things, therefore, I +beg and implore this of you, O Athenians! if you hear me defending +myself in the same language as that in which I am accustomed to speak +both in the forum at the counters, where many of you have heard me, and +elsewhere, not to be surprised or disturbed on this account. For the +case is this: I now for the first time come before a court of justice, +though more than seventy years old; I am therefore utterly a stranger to +the language here. As, then, if I were really a stranger, you would have +pardoned me if I spoke in the language and the manner in which I had +been educated, so now I ask this of you as an act of justice, as it +appears to me, to disregard the manner of my speech, for perhaps it may +be somewhat worse, and perhaps better, and to consider this only, and to +give your attention to this, whether I speak what is just or not; for +this is the virtue of a judge, but of an orator to speak the truth. + +2. First, then, O Athenians! I am right in defending myself against the +first false accusations alleged against me, and my first accusers, and +then against the latest accusations, and the latest accusers. For many +have been accusers of me to you, and for many years, who have asserted +nothing true, of whom I am more afraid than of Anytus and his party, +although they too are formidable; but those are still more formidable, +Athenians, who, laying hold of many of you from childhood, have +persuaded you, and accused me of what is not true: "that there is one +Socrates, a wise man, who occupies himself about celestial matters, and +has explored every thing under the earth, and makes the worse appear the +better reason." Those, O Athenians! who have spread abroad this report +are my formidable accusers; for they who hear them think that such as +search into these things do not believe that there are gods. In the next +place, these accusers are numerous, and have accused me now for a long +time; moreover, they said these things to you at that time of life in +which you were most credulous, when you were boys and some of you +youths, and they accused me altogether in my absence, when there was no +one to defend me. But the most unreasonable thing of all is, that it is +not possible to learn and mention their names, except that one of them +happens to be a comic poet.[1] Such, however, as, influenced by envy and +calumny, have persuaded you, and those who, being themselves persuaded, +have persuaded others, all these are most difficult to deal with; for it +is not possible to bring any of them forward here, nor to confute any; +but it is altogether necessary to fight, as it were with a shadow, in +making my defense, and to convict when there is no one to answer. +Consider, therefore, as I have said, that my accusers are twofold, some +who have lately accused me, and others long since, whom I have made +mention of; and believe that I ought to defend myself against these +first; for you heard them accusing me first, and much more than these +last. + +Well. I must make my defense, then, O Athenians! and endeavor in this so +short a space of time to remove from your minds the calumny which you +have long entertained. I wish, indeed, it might be so, if it were at all +better both for you and me, and that in making my defense I could effect +something more advantageous still: I think, however, that it will be +difficult, and I am not entirely ignorant what the difficulty is. +Nevertheless, let this turn out as may be pleasing to God, I must obey +the law and make my defense. + +3. Let us, then, repeat from the beginning what the accusation is from +which the calumny against me has arisen, and relying on which Melitus +has preferred this indictment against me. Well. What, then, do they who +charge me say in their charge? For it is necessary to read their +deposition as of public accusers. "Socrates acts wickedly, and is +criminally curious in searching into things under the earth, and in the +heavens, and in making the worse appear the better cause, and in +teaching these same things to others." Such is the accusation: for such +things you have yourselves seen in the comedy of Aristophanes, one +Socrates there carried about, saying that he walks in the air, and +acting many other buffooneries, of which I understand nothing whatever. +Nor do I say this as disparaging such a science, if there be any one +skilled in such things, only let me not be prosecuted by Melitus on a +charge of this kind; but I say it, O Athenians! because I have nothing +to do with such matters. And I call upon most of you as witnesses of +this, and require you to inform and tell each other, as many of you as +have ever heard me conversing; and there are many such among you. +Therefore tell each other, if any one of you has ever heard me +conversing little or much on such subjects. And from this you will know +that other things also, which the multitude assert of me, are of a +similar nature. + +4. However not one of these things is true; nor, if you have heard from +any one that I attempt to teach men, and require payment, is this true. +Though this, indeed, appears to me to be an honorable thing, if one +should be able to instruct men, like Gorgias the Leontine, Prodicus the +Cean, and Hippias the Elean. For each of these, O Athenians! is able, by +going through the several cities, to persuade the young men, who can +attach themselves gratuitously to such of their own fellow-citizens as +they please, to abandon their fellow-citizens and associate with them, +giving them money and thanks besides. There is also another wise man +here, a Parian, who, I hear, is staying in the city. For I happened to +visit a person who spends more money on the sophists than all others +together: I mean Callias, son of Hipponicus. I therefore asked him, for +he has two sons, "Callias," I said, "if your two sons were colts or +calves, we should have had to choose a master for them, and hire a +person who would make them excel in such qualities as belong to their +nature; and he would have been a groom or an agricultural laborer. But +now, since your sons are men, what master do you intend to choose for +them? Who is there skilled in the qualities that become a man and a +citizen? For I suppose you must have considered this, since you have +sons. Is there any one," I said, "or not?" "Certainly," he answered. +"Who is he?" said I, "and whence does he come? and on what terms does he +teach?" He replied, "Evenus the Parian, Socrates, for five minae." And I +deemed Evenus happy, if he really possesses this art, and teaches +admirably. And I too should think highly of myself, and be very proud, +if I possessed this knowledge, but I possess it not, O Athenians. + +5. Perhaps, one of you may now object: "But, Socrates, what have you +done, then? Whence have these calumnies against you arisen? For surely +if you had not busied yourself more than others, such a report and story +would never have got abroad, unless you had done something different +from what most men do. Tell us, therefore, what it is, that we may not +pass a hasty judgment on you." He who speaks thus appears to me to speak +justly, and I will endeavor to show you what it is that has occasioned +me this character and imputation. Listen, then: to some of you perhaps I +shall appear to jest, yet be assured that I shall tell you the whole +truth. For I, O Athenians! have acquired this character through nothing +else than a certain wisdom. Of what kind, then, is this wisdom? Perhaps +it is merely human wisdom. For in this, in truth, I appear to be wise. +They probably, whom I have just now mentioned, possessed a wisdom more +than human, otherwise I know not what to say about it; for I am not +acquainted with it, and whosoever says I am, speaks falsely, and for the +purpose of calumniating me. But, O Athenians! do not cry out against me, +even though I should seem to you to speak somewhat arrogantly. For the +account which I am going to give you is not my own; but I shall refer to +an authority whom you will deem worthy of credit. For I shall adduce to +you the god at Delphi as a witness of my wisdom, if I have any, and of +what it is. You doubtless know Chærepho: he was my associate from youth, +and the associate of most of you; he accompanied you in your late exile, +and returned with you. You know, then, what kind of a man Chærepho was, +how earnest in whatever he undertook. Having once gone to Delphi, he +ventured to make the following inquiry of the oracle (and, as I said, O +Athenians! do not cry out), for he asked if there was any one wiser than +I. The Pythian thereupon answered that there was not one wiser; and of +this, his brother here will give you proofs, since he himself is dead. + +6. Consider, then, why I mention these things: it is because I am going +to show you whence the calumny against me arose. For when I heard this, +I reasoned thus with myself, What does the god mean? What enigma is +this? For I am not conscious to myself that I am wise, either much or +little. What, then, does he mean by saying that I am the wisest? For +assuredly he does not speak falsely: that he could not do. And for a +long time I was in doubt what he meant; afterward, with considerable +difficulty, I had recourse to the following method of searching out his +meaning. I went to one of those who have the character of being wise, +thinking that there, if anywhere, I should confute the oracle, and show +in answer to the response that This man is wiser than I, though you +affirmed that I was the wisest. Having, then, examined this man (for +there is no occasion to mention his name; he was, however, one of our +great politicians, in examining whom I felt as I proceed to describe, O +Athenians!), having fallen into conversation with him, this man appeared +to be wise in the opinion of most other men, and especially in his own +opinion, though in fact he was not so. I thereupon endeavored to show +him that he fancied himself to be wise, but really was not. Hence I +became odious, both to him and to many others who were present. When I +left him, I reasoned thus with myself: I am wiser than this man, for +neither of us appears to know anything great and good; but he fancies he +knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know +anything, so I do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I +appear to be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not +know. After that I went to another who was thought to be wiser than the +former, and formed the very same opinion. Hence I became odious to him +and to many others. + +7. After this I went to others in turn, perceiving indeed, and grieving +and alarmed, that I was making myself odious; however, it appeared +necessary to regard the oracle of the god as of the greatest moment, and +that, in order to discover its meaning, I must go to all who had the +reputation of possessing any knowledge. And by the dog, O Athenians! for +I must tell you the truth, I came to some such conclusion as this: those +who bore the highest reputation appeared to me to be most deficient, in +my researches in obedience to the god, and others who were considered +inferior more nearly approaching to the possession of understanding. But +I must relate to you my wandering, and the labors which I underwent, in +order that the oracle might prove incontrovertible. For after the +politicians I went to the poets, as well the tragic as the dithyrambic +and others, expecting that here I should in very fact find myself more +ignorant than they. Taking up, therefore, some of their poems, which +appeared to me most elaborately finished, I questioned them as to their +meaning, that at the same time I might learn something from them. I am +ashamed, O Athenians! to tell you the truth; however, it must be told. +For, in a word, almost all who were present could have given a better +account of them than those by whom they had been composed. I soon +discovered this, therefore, with regard to the poets, that they do not +effect their object by wisdom, but by a certain natural inspiration, and +under the influence of enthusiasm, like prophets and seers; for these +also say many fine things, but they understand nothing that they say. +The poets appeared to me to be affected in a similar manner; and at the +same time I perceived that they considered themselves, on account of +their poetry, to be the wisest of men in other things, in which they +were not. I left them, therefore, under the persuasion that I was +superior to them, in the same way that I was to the politicians. + +8. At last, therefore, I went to the artisans. For I was conscious to +myself that I knew scarcely anything, but I was sure that I should find +them possessed of much beautiful knowledge. And in this I was not +deceived; for they knew things which I did not, and in this respect they +were wiser than I. But, O Athenians! even the best workmen appeared to +me to have fallen into the same error as the poets; for each, because he +excelled in the practice of his art, thought that he was very wise in +other most important matters, and this mistake of theirs obscured the +wisdom that they really possessed. I therefore asked myself, in behalf +of the oracle, whether I should prefer to continue as I am, possessing +none, either of their wisdom or their ignorance, or to have both as they +have. I answered, therefore, to myself and to the oracle, that it was +better for me to continue as I am. + +9. From this investigation, then, O Athenians! many enmities have arisen +against me, and those the most grievous and severe, so that many +calumnies have sprung from them, and among them this appellation of +being wise; for those who are from time to time present think that I am +wise in those things, with respect to which I expose the ignorance of +others. The god, however, O Athenians! appears to be really wise, and to +mean this by his oracle: that human wisdom is worth little or nothing; +and it is clear that he did not say this to Socrates, but made use of my +name, putting me forward as an example, as if he had said, that man is +the wisest among you, who, like Socrates, knows that he is in reality +worth nothing with respect to wisdom. Still, therefore, I go about and +search and inquire into these things, in obedience to the god, both +among citizens and strangers, if I think any one of them is wise; and +when he appears to me not to be so, I take the part of the god, and show +that he is not wise. And, in consequence of this occupation, I have no +leisure to attend in any considerable degree to the affairs of the state +or my own; but I am in the greatest poverty through my devotion to the +service of the god. + +10. In addition to this, young men, who have much leisure and belong to +the wealthiest families, following me of their own accord, take great +delight in hearing men put to the test, and often imitate me, and +themselves attempt to put others to the test; and then, I think, they +find a great abundance of men who fancy they know something, although +they know little or nothing. Hence those who are put to the test by them +are angry with me, and not with them, and say that "there is one +Socrates, a most pestilent fellow, who corrupts the youth." And when any +one asks them by doing or teaching what, they have nothing to say, for +they do not know; but, that they may not seem to be at a loss, they say +such things as are ready at hand against all philosophers; "that he +searches into things in heaven and things under the earth, that he does +not believe there are gods, and that he makes the worse appear the +better reason." For they would not, I think, be willing to tell the +truth that they have been detected in pretending to possess knowledge, +whereas they know nothing. Therefore, I think, being ambitions and +vehement and numerous, and speaking systematically and persuasively +about me, they have filled your ears, for a long time and diligently +calumniating me. From among these, Melitus, Anytus and Lycon have +attacked me; Melitus being angry on account of the poets, Anytus on +account of the artisans and politicians, and Lycon on account of the +rhetoricians. So that, as I said in the beginning, I should wonder if I +were able in so short a time to remove from your minds a calumny that +has prevailed so long. This, O Athenians! is the truth; and I speak it +without concealing or disguising anything from you, much or little; +though I very well know that by so doing I shall expose myself to odium. +This, however, is a proof that I speak the truth, and that this is the +nature of the calumny against me, and that these are its causes. And if +you will investigate the matter, either now or hereafter, you will find +it to be so. + +11. With respect, then, to the charges which my first accusers have +alleged against me, let this be a sufficient apology to you. To Melitus, +that good and patriotic man, as he says, and to my later accusers, I +will next endeavor to give an answer; and here, again, as there are +different accusers, let us take up their deposition. It is pretty much +as follows: "Socrates," it says, "acts unjustly in corrupting the youth, +and in not believing in those gods in whom the city believes, but in +other strange divinities." Such is the accusation; let us examine each +particular of it. It says that I act unjustly in corrupting the youth. +But I, O Athenians! say that Melitus acts unjustly, because he jests on +serious subjects, rashly putting men upon trial, under pretense of being +zealous and solicitous about things in which he never at any time took +any concern. But that this is the case I will endeavor to prove to you. + +12. Come, then, Melitus, tell me, do you not consider it of the greatest +importance that the youth should be made as virtuous as possible? + +_Mel._ I do. + +_Socr._ Well, now, tell the judges who it is that makes them better, for +it is evident that you know, since it concerns you so much; for, having +detected me in corrupting them, as you say, you have cited me here, and +accused me: come, then, say, and inform the judges who it is that makes +them better. Do you see, Melitus, that you are silent, and have nothing +to say? But does it not appear to you to be disgraceful, and a +sufficient proof of what I say, that you never took any concern about +the matter? But tell me, friend, who makes them better? + +_Mel._ The laws. + +_Socr._ I do not ask this, most excellent sir, but what man, who surely +must first know this very thing, the laws? + +_Mel._ These, Socrates, the judges. + +_Socr._ How say you, Melitus? Are these able to instruct the youth, and +make them better? + +_Mel._ Certainly. + +_Socr._ Whether all, or some of them, and others not? + +_Mel._ All. + +_Socr._ You say well, by Juno! and have found a great abundance of those +that confer benefit. But what further? Can these hearers make them +better, or not? + +_Mel._ They, too, can. + +_Socr._ And what of the senators? + +_Mel._ The senators, also. + +_Socr._ But, Melitus, do those who attend the public assemblies corrupt +the younger men? or do they all make them better? + +_Mel._ They too. + +_Socr._ All the Athenians, therefore, as it seems, make them honorable +and good, except me; but I alone corrupt them. Do you say so? + +_Mel._ I do assert this very thing. + +_Socr._ You charge me with great ill-fortune. But answer me: does it +appear to you to be the same, with respect to horses? Do all men make +them better, and is there only some one that spoils them? or does quite +the contrary of this take place? Is there some one person who can make +them better, or very few; that is, the trainers? But if the generality +of men should meddle with and make use of horses, do they spoil them? Is +not this the case, Melitus, both with respect to horses and all other +animals? It certainly is so, whether you and Anytus deny it or not. For +it would be a great good-fortune for the youth if only one person +corrupted, and the rest benefited them. However, Melitus, you have +sufficiently shown that you never bestowed any care upon youth; and you +clearly evince your own negligence, in that you have never paid any +attention to the things with respect to which you accuse me. + +13. Tell us further, Melitus, in the name of Jupiter, whether is it +better to dwell with good or bad citizens? Answer, my friend; for I ask +you nothing difficult. Do not the bad work some evil to those that are +continually near them, but the good some good? + +_Mel._ Certainly. + +_Socr._ Is there any one that wishes to be injured rather than benefited +by his associates? Answer, good man; for the law requires you to answer. +Is there any one who wishes to be injured? + +_Mel._ No, surely. + +_Socr._ Come, then, whether do you accuse me here, as one that corrupts +the youth, and makes them more depraved, designedly or undesignedly? + +_Mel._ Designedly, I say. + +_Socr._ What, then, Melitus, are you at your time of life so much wiser +than I at my time of life, as to know that the evil are always working +some evil to those that are most near to them, and the good some good; +but I have arrived at such a pitch of ignorance as not to know that if I +make any one of my associates depraved, I shall be in danger of +receiving some evil from him; and yet I designedly bring about this so +great evil, as you say? In this I can not believe you, Melitus, nor do I +think would any other man in the world. But either I do not corrupt the +youth, or, if I do corrupt them, I do it undesignedly: so that in both +cases you speak falsely. But if I corrupt them undesignedly, for such +involuntary offenses it is not usual to accuse one here, but to take one +apart, and teach and admonish one. For it is evident that if I am +taught, I shall cease doing what I do undesignedly. But you shunned me, +and were not willing to associate with and instruct me; but you accuse +me here, where it is usual to accuse those who need punishment, and not +instruction. + +14. Thus, then, O Athenians! this now is clear that I have said; that +Melitus never paid any attention to these matters, much or little. +However, tell us, Melitus, how you say I corrupt the youth? Is it not +evidently, according to the indictment which you have preferred, by +teaching them not to believe in the gods in whom the city believes, but +in other strange deities? Do you not say that, by teaching these things, +I corrupt the youth? + +_Mel._ Certainly I do say so. + +_Socr._ By those very gods, therefore, Melitus, of whom the discussion +now is, speak still more clearly both to me and to these men. For I can +not understand whether you say that I teach them to believe that there +are certain gods (and in that case I do believe that there are gods, and +am not altogether an atheist, nor in this respect to blame), not, +however, those which the city believes in, but others; and this it is +that you accuse me of, that I introduce others. Or do you say outright +that I do not myself believe that there are gods, and that I teach +others the same? + +_Mel._ I say this: that you do not believe in any gods at all. + +_Socr._ O wonderful Melitus, how come you to say this? Do I not, then, +like the rest of mankind, believe that the sun and moon are gods? + +_Mel._ No, by Jupiter, O judges! for he says that the sun is a stone, +and the moon an earth. + +_Socr._ You fancy that you are accusing Anaxagoras, my dear Melitus, and +thus you put a slight on these men, and suppose them to be so illiterate +as not to know that the books of Anaxagoras of Clazomene are full of +such assertions. And the young, moreover, learn these things from me, +which they might purchase for a drachma, at most, in the orchestra, and +so ridicule Socrates, if he pretended they were his own, especially +since they are so absurd? I ask then, by Jupiter, do I appear to you to +believe that there is no god? + +_Mel._ No, by Jupiter, none whatever. + +_Socr._ You say what is incredible, Melitus, and that, as appears to me, +even to yourself. For this man, O Athenians! appears to me to be very +insolent and intemperate and to have preferred this indictment through +downright insolence, intemperance, and wantonness. For he seems, as it +were, to have composed an enigma for the purpose of making an +experiment. Whether will Socrates the wise know that I am jesting, and +contradict myself, or shall I deceive him and all who hear me? For, in +my opinion, he clearly contradicts himself in the indictment, as if he +should say, Socrates is guilty of wrong in not believing that there are +gods, and in believing that there are gods. And this, surely, is the act +of one who is trifling. + +15. Consider with me now, Athenians, in what respect he appears to me to +say so. And do you, Melitus, answer me; and do ye, as I besought you at +the outset, remember not to make an uproar if I speak after my usual +manner. + +Is there any man, Melitus, who believes that there are human affairs, +but does not believe that there are men? Let him answer, judges, and not +make so much noise. Is there any one who does not believe that there are +horses, but that there are things pertaining to horses? or who does not +believe that there are pipers, but that there are things pertaining to +pipes? There is not, O best of men! for since you are not willing to +answer, I say it to you and to all here present. But answer to this at +least: is there any one who believes that there are things relating to +demons, but does not believe that there are demons? + +_Mel._ There is not. + +_Socr._ How obliging you are in having hardly answered; though compelled +by these judges! You assert, then, that I do believe and teach things +relating to demons, whether they be new or old; therefore, according to +your admission, I do believe in things relating to demons, and this you +have sworn in the bill of indictment. If, then, I believe in things +relating to demons, there is surely an absolute necessity that I should +believe that there are demons. Is it not so? It is. For I suppose you to +assent, since you do not answer. But with respect to demons, do we not +allow that they are gods, or the children of gods? Do you admit this or +not? + +_Mel._ Certainly. + +_Socr._ Since, then, I allow that there are demons, as you admit, if +demons are a kind of gods, this is the point in which I say you speak +enigmatically and divert yourself in saying that I do not allow there +are gods, and again that I do allow there are, since I allow that there +are demons? But if demons are the children of gods, spurious ones, +either from nymphs or any others, of whom they are reported to be, what +man can think that there are sons of gods, and yet that there are not +gods? For it would be just as absurd as if any one should think that +there are mules, the offspring of horses and asses, but should not think +there are horses and asses. However, Melitus, it can not be otherwise +than that you have preferred this indictment for the purpose of trying +me, or because you were at a loss what real crime to allege against me; +for that you should persuade any man who has the smallest degree of +sense that the same person can think that there are things relating to +demons and to gods, and yet that there are neither demons, nor gods, +not heroes, is utterly impossible. + +16. That I am not guilty, then, O Athenians! according to the indictment +of Melitus, appears to me not to require a lengthened defense; but what +I have said is sufficient. And as to what I said at the beginning, that +there is a great enmity toward me among the multitude, be assured it is +true. And this it is which will condemn me, if I am condemned, not +Melitus, nor Anytus, but the calumny and envy of the multitude, which +have already condemned many others, and those good men, and will, I +think, condemn others also; for there is no danger that it will stop +with me. + +Perhaps, however, some one may say, "Are you not ashamed, Socrates, to +have pursued a study from which you are now in danger of dying?" To such +a person I should answer with good reason, You do not say well, friend, +if you think that a man, who is even of the least value, ought to take +into the account the risk of life or death, and ought not to consider +that alone when be performs any action, whether he is acting justly or +unjustly, and the part of a good man or bad man. For, according to your +reasoning, all those demi-gods that died at Troy would be vile +characters, as well all the rest as the son of Thetis, who so far +despised danger in comparison of submitting to disgrace, that when his +mother, who was a goddess, spoke to him, in his impatience to kill +Hector, something to this effect, as I think,[2] "My son, if you revenge +the death of your friend Patroclus, and slay Hector, you will yourself +die, for," she said, "death awaits you immediately after Hector;" but +he, on hearing this, despised death and danger, and dreading much more +to live as a coward, and not avenge his friend, said, "May I die +immediately when I have inflicted punishment on the guilty, that I may +not stay here an object of ridicule, by the curved ships, a burden to +the ground?"--do you think that he cared for death and danger? For thus +it is, O Athenians! in truth: wherever any one has posted himself, +either thinking it to be better, or has been posted by his chief, there, +as it appears to me, he ought to remain and meet danger, taking no +account either of death or anything else in comparison with disgrace. + +17. I then should be acting strangely, O Athenians! if, when the +generals whom you chose to command me assigned me my post at Potidæa, at +Amphipolis, and at Delium, I then remained where they posted me, like +any other person, and encountered the danger of death; but when the +deity, as I thought and believed, assigned it as my duty to pass my life +in the study of philosophy, and examining myself and others, I should on +that occasion, through fear of death or any thing else whatsoever, +desert my post, strange indeed would it be; and then, in truth, any one +might justly bring me to trial, and accuse me of not believing in the +gods, from disobeying the oracle, fearing death, and thinking myself to +be wise when I am not. For to fear death, O Athenians! is nothing else +than to appear to be wise, without being so; for it is to appear to know +what one does not know. For no one knows but that death is the greatest +of all good to man; but men fear it, as if they well knew that it is the +greatest of evils. And how is not this the most reprehensible ignorance, +to think that one knows what one does not know? But I, O Athenians! in +this, perhaps, differ from most men; and if I should say that I am in +any thing wiser than another, it would be in this, that not having a +competent knowledge of the things in Hades, I also think that I have not +such knowledge. But to act unjustly, and to disobey my superior, +whether God or man, I know is evil and base. I shall never, therefore, +fear or shun things which, for aught I know, maybe good, before evils +which I know to be evils. So that, even if you should now dismiss me, +not yielding to the instances of Anytus, who said that either I should +not[3] appear here at all, or that, if I did appear, it was impossible +not to put me to death, telling you that if I escaped, your sons, +studying what Socrates teaches, would all be utterly corrupted; if you +should address me thus, "Socrates, we shall not now yield to Anytus, but +dismiss you, on this condition, however, that you no longer persevere in +your researches nor study philosophy; and if hereafter you are detected +in so doing, you shall die"--if, as I said, you should dismiss, me on +these terms, I should say to you, "O Athenians! I honor and love you; +but I shall obey God rather than you; and so long as I breathe and am +able, I shall not cease studying philosophy, and exhorting you and +warning any one of you I may happen to meet, saying, as I have been +accustomed to do: 'O best of men! seeing you are an Athenian, of a city +the most powerful and most renowned for wisdom and strength, are you not +ashamed of being careful for riches, how you may acquire them in +greatest abundance, and for glory, and honor, but care not nor take any +thought for wisdom and truth, and for your soul, how it maybe made most +perfect?'" And if any one of you should question my assertion, and +affirm that he does care for these things, I shall not at once let him +go, nor depart, but I shall question him, sift and prove him. And if he +should appear to me not to possess virtue, but to pretend that he does, +I shall reproach him for that he sets the least value on things of the +greatest worth, but the highest on things that are worthless. Thus I +shall act to all whom I meet, both young and old, stranger and citizen, +but rather to you, my fellow-citizens, because ye are more nearly allied +to me. For be well assured, this the deity commands. And I think that no +greater good has ever befallen you in the city than my zeal for the +service of the god. For I go about doing nothing else than persuading +you, both young and old, to take no care either for the body, or for +riches, prior to or so much as for the soul, how it may be made most +perfect, telling you that virtue does not spring from riches, but riches +and all other human blessings, both private and public, from virtue. If, +then, by saying these things, I corrupt the youth, these things must be +mischievous; but if any one says that I speak other things than these, +he misleads you.[4] Therefore I must say, O Athenians! either yield to +Anytus, or do not, either dismiss me or not, since I shall not act +otherwise, even though I must die many deaths. + +18. Murmur not, O Athenians! but continue to attend to my request, not +to murmur at what I say, but to listen, for, as I think, you will derive +benefit from listening. For I am going to say other things to you, at +which, perhaps, you will raise a clamor; but on no account do so. Be +well assured, then, if you put me to death, being such a man as I say I +am, you will not injure me more than yourselves. For neither will +Melitus nor Anytus harm me; nor have they the power; for I do not think +that it is possible for a better man to be injured by a worse. He may +perhaps have me condemned to death, or banished, or deprived of civil +rights; and he or others may perhaps consider these as mighty evils; I, +how ever, do not consider them so, but that it is much more so to do +what he is now doing, to endeavor to put a man to death unjustly. Now, +therefore, O Athenians! I am far from making a defense on my behalf, as +any one might think, but I do so on your own behalf, lest by condemning +me you should offend at all with respect to the gift of the deity to +you. For, if you should put me to death, you will not easily find such +another, though it may be ridiculous to say so, altogether attached by +the deity to this city as to a powerful and generous horse, somewhat +sluggish from his size, and requiring to be roused by a gad-fly; so the +deity appears to have united me, being such a person as I am, to the +city, that I may rouse you, and persuade and reprove every one of you, +nor ever cease besetting you throughout the whole day. Such another man, +O Athenians! will not easily be found; therefore, if you will take my +advice, you will spare me. But you, perhaps, being irritated like drowsy +persons who are roused from sleep, will strike me, and, yielding to +Anytus, will unthinkingly condemn me to death; and then you will pass +the rest of your life in sleep, unless the deity, caring for you, should +send some one else to you. But that I am a person who has been given by +the deity to this city, you may discern from hence; for it is not like +the ordinary conduct of men, that I should have neglected all my own +affairs, and suffered my private interest to be neglected for so many +years, and that I should constantly attend to your concerns, addressing +myself to each of you separately, like a father, or elder brother, +persuading you to the pursuit of virtue. And if I had derived any profit +from this course, and had received pay for my exhortations, there would +have been some reason for my conduct; but now you see yourselves that my +accusers, who have so shamelessly calumniated me in everything else, +have not had the impudence to charge me with this, and to bring +witnesses to prove that I ever either exacted or demanded any reward. +And I think I produce a sufficient proof that I speak the truth, +namely, my poverty. + +19. Perhaps, however, it may appear absurd that I, going about, thus +advise you in private and make myself busy, but never venture to present +myself in public before your assemblies and give advice to the city. The +cause of this is that which you have often and in many places heard me +mention; because I am moved by a certain divine and spiritual influence, +which also Melitus, through mockery, has set out in the indictment. This +began with me from childhood, being a kind of voice which, when present, +always diverts me from what I am about to do, but never urges me on. +This it is which opposed my meddling in public politics; and it appears +to me to have opposed me very properly. For be well assured, O +Athenians! if I had long since attempted to intermeddle with politics, I +should have perished long ago, and should not have at all benefited you +or myself. And be not angry with me for speaking the truth. For it is +not possible that any man should be safe who sincerely opposes either +you, or any other multitude, and who prevents many unjust and illegal +actions from being committed in a city; but it is necessary that he who +in earnest contends for justice, if he will be safe for but a short +time, should live privately, and take no part in public affairs. + +20. I will give you strong proofs of this, not words, but what you +value, facts. Hear, then, what has happened to me, that you may know +that I would not yield to any one contrary to what is just, through fear +of death, at the same time by not yielding I must perish. I shall tell +you what will be displeasing and wearisome,[5] yet true. For I, O +Athenians! never bore any other magisterial office in the city, but +have been a senator: and our Antiochean tribe happened to supply the +Prytanes when you chose to condemn in a body the ten generals who had +not taken off those that perished in the sea-fight, in violation of the +law, as you afterward all thought. At that time I alone of the Prytanes +opposed your doing anything contrary to the laws, and I voted against +you; and when the orators were ready to denounce me, and to carry me +before a magistrate, and you urged and cheered them on, I thought I +ought rather to meet the danger with law and justice on my side, than +through fear of imprisonment or death, to take part with you in your +unjust designs. And this happened while the city was governed by a +democracy. But when it became an oligarchy, the Thirty, having sent for +me with four others to the Tholus, ordered us to bring Leon the +Salaminian from Salamis, that he might be put to death; and they gave +many similar orders to many others, wishing to involve as many as they +could in guilt. Then, however, I showed, not in word but in deed, that I +did not care for death, if the expression be not too rude, in the +smallest degree; but that all my care was to do nothing unjust or +unholy. For that government, strong as it was, did not so overawe me as +to make me commit an unjust action; but when we came out from the +Tholus, the four went to Salamis, and brought back Leon; but I went away +home. And perhaps for this I should have been put to death, if that +government had not been speedily broken up. And of this you can have +many witnesses. + +21. Do you think, then, that I should have survived so many years if I +had engaged in public affairs, and, acting as becomes a good man, had +aided the cause of justice, and, as I ought, had deemed this of the +highest importance? Far from it, O Athenians! nor would any other man +have done so. But I, through the whole of my life, if I have done +anything in public, shall be found to be a man, and the very same in +private, who has never made a concession to any one contrary to justice, +neither to any other, nor to any one of these whom my calumniators say +are my disciples. I, however, was never the preceptor of any one; but if +any one desired to hear me speaking, and to see me busied about my own +mission, whether he were young or old, I never refused him. Nor do I +discourse when I receive money, and not when I do not receive any, but I +allow both rich and poor alike to question me, and, if any one wishes +it, to answer me and hear what I have to say. And for these, whether any +one proves to be a good man or not, I cannot justly be responsible, +because I never either promised them any instruction or taught them at +all. But if any one says that he has ever learned or heard anything from +me in private which all others have not, be well assured that he does +not speak the truth. + +22. But why do some delight to spend so long a time with me? Ye have +heard, O Athenians! I have told you the whole truth, that they delight +to hear those closely questioned who think that they are wise but are +not; for this is by no means disagreeable. But this duty, as I say, has +been enjoined me by the deity, by oracles, by dreams, and by every mode +by which any other divine decree has ever enjoined anything to man to +do. These things, O Athenians! are both true, and easily confuted if not +true. For if I am now corrupting some of the youths, and have already +corrupted others, it were fitting, surely, that if any of them, having +become advanced in life, had discovered that I gave them bad advice when +they were young, they should now rise up against me, accuse me, and have +me punished; or if they were themselves unwilling to do this, some of +their kindred, their fathers, or brothers, or other relatives, if their +kinsman have ever sustained any damage from me, should now call it to +mind. Many of them, however, are here present, whom I see: first, Crito, +my contemporary and fellow-burgher, father of this Critobulus; then +Lysanias of Sphettus, father of this Æschines; again, Antiphon of +Cephisus, father of Epigenes. There are those others, too, whose +brothers maintained the same intimacy with me, namely, Nicostratus, son +of Theodotus, brother of Theodotus--Theodotus indeed is dead, so that he +could not deprecate his brother's proceedings--and Paralus here, son of +Demodocus, whose brother was Theages; and Adimantus, son of Ariston, +whose brother is this Plato; and Æantodorus, whose brother is this +Apollodorus. I could also mention many others to you, some one of whom +certainly Melitus ought to have adduced in his speech as a witness. If, +however, he then forgot to do so, let him now adduce them; I give him +leave to do so, and let him say it, if he has anything of the kind to +allege. But, quite contrary to this, you will find, O Athenians! all +ready to assist me, who have corrupted and injured their relatives, as +Melitus and Anytus say. For those who have been themselves corrupted +might perhaps have some reason for assisting me; but those who have not +been corrupted, men now advanced in life, their relatives, what other +reason can they have for assisting me, except that right and just one, +that they know that Melitus speaks falsely, and that I speak the truth. + +23. Well, then, Athenians, these are pretty much the things I have to +say in my defense, and others perhaps of the same kind. Perhaps, +however, some among you will be indignant on recollecting his own case, +if he, when engaged in a cause far less than this, implored and besought +the judges with many tears, bringing forward his children in order that +he might excite their utmost compassion, and many others of his +relatives and friends, whereas I do none of these things, although I may +appear to be incurring the extremity of danger. Perhaps, therefore, some +one, taking notice of this, may become more determined against me, and, +being enraged at this very conduct of mine, may give his vote under the +influence of anger. If, then, any one of you is thus affected--I do not, +however, suppose that there is--but if there should be, I think I may +reasonably say to him: "I, too, O best of men, have relatives; for, to +make use of that saying of Homer, I am not sprung from an oak, nor from +a rock, but from men, so that I, too, O Athenians! have relatives, and +three sons, one now grown up, and two boys: I shall not, however, bring +any one of them forward and implore you to acquit me." Why, then, shall I +not do this? Not from contumacy, O Athenians! nor disrespect toward you. +Whether or not I am undaunted at the prospect of death is another +question; but, out of regard to my own character, and yours, and that of +the whole city, it does not appear to me to be honorable that I should +do any thing of this kind at my age, and with the reputation I have, +whether true or false. For it is commonly agreed that Socrates in some +respects excels the generality of men. If, then, those among you who +appear to excel either in wisdom, or fortitude, or any other virtue +whatsoever, should act in such a manner as I have often seen some when +they have been brought to trial, it would be shameful, who appearing +indeed to be something, have conducted themselves in a surprising +manner, as thinking they should suffer something dreadful by dying, and +as if they would be immortal if you did not put them to death. Such men +appear to me to bring disgrace on the city, so that any stranger might +suppose that such of the Athenians as excel in virtue, and whom they +themselves choose in preference to themselves for magistracies and other +honors, are in no respect superior to women. For these things, O +Athenians! neither ought we to do who have attained to any height of +reputation, nor, should we do them, ought you to suffer us; but you +should make this manifest, that you will much rather condemn him who +introduces these piteous dramas, and makes the city ridiculous, than him +who quietly awaits your decision. + +24. But, reputation apart, O Athenians! it does not appear to me to be +right to entreat a judge, or to escape by entreaty; but one ought to +inform and persuade him. For a judge does not sit for the purpose of +administering justice out of favor, but that he may judge rightly, and +he is sworn not to show favor to whom he pleases, but that he will +decide according to the laws. It is, therefore, right that neither +should we accustom you, nor should you accustom yourselves, to violate +your oaths; for in so doing neither of us would act righteously. Think +not then, O Athenians! that I ought to adopt such a course toward you as +I neither consider honorable, nor just, nor holy, as well, by Jupiter! +on any other occasion, and now especially when I am accused of impiety +by this Melitus. For clearly, if I should persuade you, and by my +entreaties should put a constraint on you who are bound by an oath, I +should teach you to think that there are no gods, and in reality, while +making my defense, should accuse myself of not believing in the gods. +This, however, is far from being the case; for I believe, O Athenians! +as none of my accusers do, and I leave it to you and to the deity to +judge concerning me in such way as will be best both for me and for you. + +[Socrates here concludes his defense, and, the votes being taken, he is +declared guilty by a majority of voices. He thereupon resumes his +address.] + +25. That I should not be grieved, O Athenians! at what has +happened--namely, that you have condemned me--as well many other +circumstances concur in bringing to pass; and, moreover this, that what +has happened has not happened contrary to my expectation; but I much +rather wonder at the number of votes on either side. For I did not +expect that I should be condemned by so small a number, but by a large +majority; but now, as it seems, if only three more votes had changed +sides, I should have been acquitted. So far as Melitus is concerned, as +it appears to me, I have been already acquitted; and not only have I +been acquitted, but it is clear to every one that had not Anytus and +Lycon come forward to accuse me, he would have been fined a thousand +drachmas, for not having obtained a fifth part of the votes. + +26. The man, then, awards me the penalty of death. Well. But what shall +I, on my part, O Athenians! award myself? Is it not clear that it will +be such as I deserve? What, then, is that? Do I deserve to suffer, or to +pay a fine? for that I have purposely during my life not remained quiet, +but neglecting what most men seek after, money-making, domestic +concerns, military command, popular oratory, and, moreover, all the +magistracies, conspiracies, and cabals that are met with in the city, +thinking that I was in reality too upright a man to be safe if I took +part in such things, I therefore did not apply myself to those pursuits, +by attending to which I should have been of no service either to you or +to myself; but in order to confer the greatest benefit on each of you +privately, as I affirm, I thereupon applied myself to that object, +endeavoring to persuade every one of you not to take any care of his own +affairs before he had taken care of himself in what way he may become +the best and wisest, nor of the affairs of the city before he took care +of the city itself; and that he should attend to other things in the +same manner. What treatment, then, do I deserve, seeing I am such a man? +Some reward, O Athenians! if, at least, I am to be estimated according +to my real deserts; and, moreover, such a reward as would be suitable to +me. What, then, is suitable to a poor man, a benefactor, and who has +need of leisure in order to give you good advice? There is nothing so +suitable, O Athenians! as that such a man should be maintained in the +Prytaneum, and this much more than if one of you had been victorious at +the Olympic games in a horserace, or in the two or four horsed chariot +race: for such a one makes you appear to be happy, but I, to be so; and +he does not need support, but I do. If, therefore, I must award a +sentence according to my just deserts, I award this, maintenance in the +Prytaneum. + +27. Perhaps, however, in speaking to you thus, I appear to you to speak +in the same presumptuous manner as I did respecting commiseration and +entreaties; but such is not the case, O Athenians! it is rather this: I +am persuaded that I never designedly injured any man, though I can not +persuade you of this, for we have conversed with each other but for a +short time. For if there were the same law with you as with other men, +that in capital cases the trial should list not only one day, but many, +I think you would be persuaded; but it is not easy in a short time to do +away with, great calumnies. Being persuaded, then, that I have injured +no one, I am far from intending to injure myself, and of pronouncing +against myself that I am deserving of punishment, and from awarding +myself any thing of the kind. Through fear of what? lest I should +suffer that which Melitus awards me, of which I say I know not whether +it he good or evil? Instead of this, shall I choose what I well know to +be evil, and award that? Shall I choose imprisonment? And why should I +live in prison, a slave to the established magistracy, the Eleven? Shall +I choose a fine, and to be imprisoned until I have paid it? But this is +the same as that which I just now mentioned, for I have not money to pay +it. Shall I, then, award myself exile? For perhaps you would consent to +this award. I should indeed be very fond of life, O Athenians! if I were +so devoid of reason as not to be able to reflect that you, who are my +fellow-citizens, have been unable to endure my manner of life and +discourses, but they have become so burdensome and odious to you that +you now seek to be rid of them: others, however, will easily bear them. +Far from it, O Athenians! A fine life it would be for me at my age to go +out wandering, and driven from city to city, and so to live. For I well +know that, wherever I may go, the youth will listen to me when I speak, +as they do here. And if I repulse them, they will themselves drive me +out, persuading the elders; and if I do not repulse them, their fathers +and kindred will banish me on their account. + +28. Perhaps, however, some one will say, Can you not, Socrates, when you +have gone from us, live a silent and quiet life? This is the most +difficult thing of all to persuade some of you. For if I say that that +would be to disobey the deity, and that, therefore, it is impossible for +me to live quietly, you would not believe me, thinking I spoke +ironically. If, on the other hand, I say that this is the greatest good +to man, to discourse daily on virtue, and other things which you have +heard me discussing, examining both myself and others, but that a life +without investigation is not worth living for, still less would you +believe me if I said this. Such, however, is the case, as I affirm, O +Athenians! though it is not easy to persuade you. And at the same time I +am not accustomed to think myself deserving of any ill. If, indeed, I +were rich, I would amerce myself in such a sum as I should be able to +pay; for then I should have suffered no harm, but now--for I can not, +unless you are willing to amerce me in such a sum as I am able to pay. +But perhaps I could pay you a mina of silver: in that sum, then, I +amerce myself. But Plato here, O Athenians! and Crito Critobulus, and +Apollodorus bid me amerce myself in thirty minae, and they offer to be +sureties. I amerce myself, then, to you in that sum; and they will be +sufficient sureties for the money. + +[The judges now proceeded to pass the sentence, and condemned Socrates +to death; whereupon he continued:] + +29. For the sake of no long space of time, O Athenians! you will incur +the character and reproach at the hands of those who wish to defame the +city, of having put that wise man, Socrates, to death. For those who +wish to defame you will assert that I am wise, though I am not. If, +then, you had waited for a short time, this would have happened of its +own accord; for observe my age, that it is far advanced in life, and +near death. But I say this not to you all, but to those only who have +condemned me to die. And I say this, too, to the same persons. Perhaps +you think, O Athenians! that I have been convicted through the want of +arguments, by which I might have persuaded you, had I thought it right +to do and say any thing, so that I might escape punishment. Far +otherwise: I have been convicted through want indeed, yet not of +arguments, but of audacity and impudence, and of the inclination to say +such things to you as would have been most agreeable for you to hear, +had I lamented and bewailed and done and said many other things +unworthy of me, as I affirm, but such as you are accustomed to hear from +others. But neither did I then think that I ought, for the sake of +avoiding danger, to do any thing unworthy of a freeman, nor do I now +repent of having so defended myself; but I should much rather choose to +die, having so defended myself, than to live in that way. For neither in +a trial nor in battle is it right that I or any one else should employ +every possible means whereby he may avoid death; for in battle it is +frequently evident that a man might escape death by laying down his +arms, and throwing himself on the mercy of his pursuers. And there are +many other devices in every danger, by which to avoid death, if a man +dares to do and say every thing. But this is not difficult, O Athenians! +to escape death; but it is much more difficult to avoid depravity, for +it runs swifter than death. And now I, being slow and aged, am overtaken +by the slower of the two; but my accusers, being strong and active, have +been overtaken by the swifter, wickedness. And now I depart, condemned +by you to death; but they condemned by truth, as guilty of iniquity and +injustice: and I abide my sentence, and so do they. These things, +perhaps, ought so to be, and I think that they are for the best. + +30. In the next place, I desire to predict to you who have condemned me, +what will be your fate; for I am now in that condition in which men most +frequently prophesy--namely, when they are about to die. I say, then, to +you, O Athenians! who have condemned me to death, that immediately after +my death a punishment will overtake you, far more severe, by Jupiter! +than that which you have inflicted on me. For you have done this, +thinking you should be freed from the necessity of giving an account of +your lives. The very contrary, however, as I affirm, will happen to you. +Your accusers will be more numerous, whom I have now restrained, though +you did not perceive it; and they will be more severe, inasmuch as they +are younger, and you will be more indignant. For if you think that by +putting men to death you will restrain any one from upbraiding you +because you do not live well, you are much mistaken; for this method of +escape is neither possible nor honorable; but that other is most +honorable and most easy, not to put a check upon others, but for a man +to take heed to himself how he may be most perfect. Having predicted +thus much to those of you who have condemned me, I take my leave of you. + +31. But with you who have voted for my acquittal I would gladly hold +converse on what has now taken place, while the magistrates are busy, +and I am not yet carried to the place where I must die. Stay with me, +then, so long, O Athenians! for nothing hinders our conversing with each +other, while we are permitted to do so; for I wish to make known to you, +as being my friends, the meaning of that which has just now befallen me. +To me, then, O my judges! and in calling you judges I call you +rightly--a strange thing has happened. For the wonted prophetic voice of +my guardian deity on every former occasion, even in the most trifling +affairs, opposed me if I was about to do any thing wrong; but now that +has befallen me which ye yourselves behold, and which any one would +think, and which is supposed to be the extremity of evil; yet neither +when I departed from home in the morning did the warning of the god +oppose me, nor when I came up here to the place of trial, nor in my +address when I was about to say any thing; yet on other occasions it has +frequently restrained me in the midst of speaking. But now it has never, +throughout this proceeding, opposed me, either in what I did or said. +What, then, do I suppose to be the cause of this? I will tell you: what +has befallen me appears to be a blessing; and it is impossible that we +think rightly who suppose that death is an evil. A great proof of this +to me is the fact that it is impossible but that the accustomed signal +should have opposed me, unless I had been about to meet with some good. + +32. Moreover, we may hence conclude that there is great hope that death +is a blessing. For to die is one of two things: for either the dead may +be annihilated, and have no sensation of any thing whatever; or, as it +is said, there are a certain change and passage of the soul from one +place to another. And if it is a privation of all sensation, as it were +a sleep in which the sleeper has no dream, death would be a wonderful +gain. For I think that if any one, having selected a night in which he +slept so soundly as not to have had a dream, and having compared this +night with all the other nights and days of his life, should be +required, on consideration, to say how many days and nights he had +passed better and more pleasantly than this night throughout his life, I +think that not only a private person, but even the great king himself, +would find them easy to number, in comparison with other days and +nights. If, therefore, death is a thing of this kind, I say it is a +gain; for thus all futurity appears to be nothing more than one night. +But if, on the other hand, death is a removal from hence to another +place, and what is said be true, that all the dead are there, what +greater blessing can there be than this, my judges? For if, on arriving +at Hades, released from these who pretend to be judges, one shall find +those who are true judges, and who are said to judge there, Minos and +Rhadamanthus, Æacus and Triptolemus, and such others of the demi-gods as +were just during their own life, would this be a sad removal? At what +price would you not estimate a conference with Orpheus and Musæus, +Hesiod and Homer? I indeed should be willing to die often, if this be +true. For to me the sojourn there would be admirable, when I should meet +with Palamedes, and Ajax, son of Telamon, and any other of the ancients +who has died by an unjust sentence. The comparing my sufferings with +theirs would, I think, be no unpleasing occupation. But the greatest +pleasure would be to spend my time in questioning and examining the +people there as I have done those here, and discovering who among them +is wise, and who fancies himself to be so, but is not. At what price, my +judges, would not any one estimate the opportunity of questioning him +who led that mighty army against Troy, or Ulysses, or Sisyphus, or ten +thousand others whom one might mention both men and women--with whom to +converse and associate, and to question them, would be an inconceivable +happiness? Surely for that the judges there do not condemn to death; for +in other respects those who live there are more happy than those who are +here, and are henceforth immortal, if, at least, what is said be true. + +33. You, therefore, O my judges! ought to entertain good hopes with +respect to death, and to meditate on this one truth, that to a good man +nothing is evil, neither while living nor when dead, nor are his +concerns neglected by the gods. And what has befallen me is not the +effect of chance; but this is clear to me, that now to die, and be freed +from my cares is better for me On this account the warning in no way +turned me aside; and I bear no resentment toward those who condemned me, +or against my accusers, although they did not condemn and accuse me with +this intention, but thinking to injure me: in this they deserve to be +blamed. + +Thus much, however, I beg of them. Punish my sons when they grow up, O +judges! paining them as I have pained you, if they appear to you to care +for riches or anything else before virtue; and if they think themselves +to be something when they are nothing, reproach them as I have done you, +for not attending to what they ought, and for conceiving themselves to +be something when they are worth nothing. If ye do this, both I and my +sons shall have met with just treatment at your hands. + +But it is now time to depart--for me to die, for you to live. But which +of us is going to a better state is unknown to every one but God. + + +FOOTNOTES + + [1] Aristophanes. + + [2] "Iliad," lib. xviii. ver. 94, etc. + + [3] See the "Crito," sec. 5. + + [4] ouden legei, literally, "he says nothing:" on se trompe, ou + l'on vous impose, _Cousin_. + + [5] But for the authority of Stallbaum, I should have translated + dikanika "forensic;" that is, such arguments as an advocate would use + in a court of justice. + + + + +INTRODUCTION TO THE CRITO. + + +It has been remarked by Stallbaum that Plato had a twofold design in +this dialogue--one, and that the primary one, to free Socrates from the +imputation of having attempted to corrupt the Athenian youth; the other, +to establish the principle that under all circumstances it is the duty +of a good citizen to obey the laws of his country. These two points, +however, are so closely interwoven with each other, that the general +principle appears only to be illustrated by the example of Socrates. + +Crito was one of those friends of Socrates who had been present at his +trial, and had offered to assist in paying a fine, had a fine been +imposed instead of the sentence of death. He appears to have frequently +visited his friend in prison after his condemnation; and now, having +obtained access to his cell very early in the morning, finds him +composed in a quiet sleep. He brings intelligence that the ship, the +arrival of which would be the signal for his death on the following day, +is expected to arrive forthwith, and takes occasion to entreat Socrates +to make his escape, the means of which were already prepared. Socrates +thereupon, having promised to follow the advice of Crito if, after the +matter had been fully discussed, it should appear to be right to do so, +proposes to consider the duty of a citizen toward his country; and +having established the divine principle that it is wrong to return evil +for evil, goes on to show that the obligations of a citizen to his +country are even more binding than those of a child to its parent, or a +slave to his master, and that therefore it is his duty to obey the +established laws, at whatever cost to himself. + +At length Crito admits that he has no answer to make, and Socrates +resolves to submit himself to the will of Providence. + + + + +CRITO; +OR, +THE DUTY OF A CITIZEN. + + +SOCRATES, CRITO. + +_Socr._ Why have you come at this hour, Crito? Is it not very early? + +_Cri._ It is. + +_Socr._ About what time? + +_Cri._ Scarce day-break. + +_Socr._ I wonder how the keeper of the prison came to admit you. + +_Cri._ He is familiar with me, Socrates, from my having frequently come +hither; and he is under some obligations to me. + +_Socr._ Have you just now come, or some time since? + +_Cri._ A considerable time since. + +_Socr._ Why, then, did you not wake me at once, instead of sitting down +by me in silence? + +_Cri._ By Jupiter! Socrates, I should not myself like to be so long +awake, and in such affliction. But I have been for some time wondering +at you, perceiving how sweetly you slept; and I purposely did not awake +you, that you might pass your time as pleasantly as possible. And, +indeed, I have often before throughout your whole life considered you +happy in your disposition, but far more so in the present calamity, +seeing how easily and meekly you bear it. + +_Socr._ However, Crito, it would be disconsonant for a man at my time of +life to repine because he must needs die. + +_Cri._ But others, Socrates, at your age have been involved in similar +calamities, yet their age has not hindered their repining at their +present fortune. + +_Socr._ So it is. But why did you come so early? + +_Cri._ Bringing sad tidings, Socrates, not sad to you, as it appears, +but to me, and all your friends, sad and heavy, and which I, I think, +shall bear worst of all. + +_Socr._ What tidings? Has the ship[6] arrived from Delos, on the arrival +of which I must die? + +_Cri._ It has not yet arrived, but it appears to me that it will come +to-day, from what certain persons report who have come from Sunium,[7] +and left it there. It is clear, therefore, from these messengers, that +it will come to day, and consequently it will be necessary, Socrates, +for you to die to-morrow. + +2. _Socr._ But with good fortune, Crito, and if so it please the gods, +so be it. I do not think, however, that it will come to day. + +_Cri._ Whence do you form this conjecture? + +_Socr._ I will tell you. I must die on the day after that on which the +ship arrives. + +_Cri._ So they say[8] who have the control of these things. + +_Socr._ I do not think, then, that it will come to-day, but to-morrow. I +conjecture this from a dream which I had this very night, not long ago, +and you seem very opportunely to have refrained from waking me. + +_Cri._ But what was this dream? + +_Socr._ A beautiful and majestic woman, clad in white garments seemed to +approach me, and to call to me and say, "Socrates, three days hence you +will reach fertile Pythia"[9]. + +_Cri._ What a strange dream, Socrates! + +_Socr._ Very clear, however, as it appears to me, Crito. + +3. _Cri._ Very much so, as it seems. But, my dear Socrates, even now be +persuaded by me, and save yourself. For if you die, not only a single +calamity will befall me, but, besides being deprived of such a friend as +I shall never meet with again, I shall also appear to many who do not +know you and me well, when I might have saved you had I been willing to +spend my money, to have neglected to do so. And what character can be +more disgraceful than this--to appear to value one's riches more than +one's friends? For the generality of men will not be persuaded that you +were unwilling to depart hence, when we urged you to it. + +_Socr._ But why, my dear Crito, should we care so much for the opinion +of the many? For the most worthy men, whom we ought rather to regard, +will think that matters have transpired as they really have. + +_Cri._ Yet you see, Socrates, that it is necessary to attend to the +opinion of the many. For the very circumstances of the present case show +that the multitude are able to effect not only the smallest evils, but +even the greatest, if any one is calumniated to them. + +_Socr._ Would, O Crito that the multitude could effect the greatest +evils, that they might also effect the greatest good, for then it would +be well. But now they can do neither; for they can make a man neither +wise nor foolish; but they do whatever chances. + +4. _Cri._ So let it be, then. But answer me this, Socrates: are you not +anxious for me and other friends, lest, if you should escape from hence, +informers should give us trouble, as having secretly carried you off, +and so we should be compelled either to lose all our property, or a very +large sum, or to suffer something else besides this? For, if you fear +any thing of the kind, dismiss your fears; for we are justified in +running the risk to save you--and, if need be, even a greater risk than +this. But be persuaded by me, and do not refuse. + +_Socr._ I am anxious about this, Crito, and about many other things. + +_Cri._ Do not fear this, however; for the sum is not large on receipt of +which certain persons are willing to save you, and take you hence. In +the next place, do you not see how cheap these informers are, so that +there would be no need of a large sum for them? My fortune is at your +service, sufficient, I think, for the purpose; then if, out of regard to +me, you do not think right to spend my money, these strangers here are +ready to spend theirs. One of them, Simmias the Theban, has brought with +him a sufficient sum for the very purpose. Cebes, too, is ready, and +very many others. So that, as I said, do not, through fears of this +kind, hesitate to save yourself, nor let what you said in court give you +any trouble, that if you went from hence you would not know what to do +with yourself. For in many places, and wherever you go, men will love +you; and if you are disposed to go to Thessaly, I have friends there who +will esteem you very highly, and will insure your safety, so that no one +in Thessaly will molest you. + +5. Moreover, Socrates, you do not appear to me to pursue a just course +in giving yourself up when you might be saved; and you press on the very +results with respect to yourself which your enemies would press, and +have pressed, in their anxiety to destroy you. Besides this, too, you +appear to me to betray your own sons, whom, when it is in your power to +rear and educate them, you will abandon, and, so far as you are +concerned, they will meet with such a fate as chance brings them, and, +as is probable, they will meet with such things as orphans are wont to +experience in a state of orphanage. Surely one ought not to have +children, or one should go through the toil of rearing and instructing +them. But you appear to me to have chosen the most indolent course; +though you ought to have chosen such a course as a good and brave man +would have done, since you profess to have made virtue your study +through the whole of your life; so that I am ashamed both for you and +for us who are your friends, lest this whole affair of yours should seem +to be the effect of cowardice on our part--your appearing to stand your +trial in the court, since you appeared when it was in your power not to +have done so, the very manner in which the trial was conducted, and this +last circumstance, as it were, a ridiculous consummation of the whole +business; your appearing to have escaped from us through our indolence +and cowardice, who did not save you; nor did you save yourself, when it +was practicable and possible, had we but exerted ourselves a little. +Think of these things, therefore, Socrates, and beware, lest, besides +the evil _that will result_, they be disgraceful both to you and to us; +advise, then, with yourself; though, indeed, there is no longer time for +advising--your resolve should be already made. And there is but one +plan; for in the following night the whole must be accomplished. If we +delay, it will be impossible and no longer practicable. By all means, +therefore, Socrates, be persuaded by me, and on no account refuse. + +6. _Socr._ My dear Crito, your zeal would be very commendable were it +united with right principle; otherwise, by how much the more earnest it +is, by so much is it the more sad. We must consider, therefore, whether +this plan should be adopted or not. For I not now only, but always, am a +person who will obey nothing within me but reason, according as it +appears to me on mature deliberation to be best. And the reasons which I +formerly professed I can not now reject, because this misfortune has +befallen me; but they appear to me in much the same light, and I respect +and honor them as before; so that if we are unable to adduce any better +at the present time, be assured that I shall not give in to you, even +though the power of the multitude should endeavor to terrify us like +children, by threatening more than it does now, bonds and death, and +confiscation of property. How, therefore, may we consider the matter +most conveniently? First of all, if we recur to the argument which you +used about opinions, whether on former occasions it was rightly resolved +or not, that we ought to pay attention to some opinions, and to others +not; or whether, before it was necessary that I should die, it was +rightly resolved; but now it has become clear that it was said idly for +argument's sake, though in reality it was merely jest and trifling. I +desire then, Crito, to consider, in common with you, whether it will +appear to me in a different light, now that I am in this condition, or +the same, and whether we shall give it up or yield to it. It was said, I +think, on former occasions, by those who were thought to speak +seriously, as I just now observed, that of the opinions which men +entertain some should be very highly esteemed and others not. By the +gods! Crito, does not this appear to you to be well said? For you, in +all human probability, are out of all danger of dying to-morrow, and the +present calamity will not lead your judgment astray. Consider, then; +does it not appear to you to have been rightly settled that we ought not +to respect all the opinions of men, but some we should, and others not? +Nor yet the opinions of all men, but of some we should, and of others +not? What say you? Is not this rightly resolved? + +_Cri._ It is. + +_Socr._ Therefore we should respect the good, but not the bad? + +_Cri._ Yes. + +_Socr._ And are not the good those of the wise, and the bad those of the +foolish? + +_Cri._ How can it be otherwise? + +7. _Socr._ Come, then: how, again, were the following points settled? +Does a man who practices gymnastic exercises and applies himself to +them, pay attention to the praise and censure and opinion of every one, +or of that one man only who happens to be a physician, or teacher of the +exercises? + +_Cri._ Of that one only. + +_Socr._ He ought, therefore, to fear the censures and covet the praises +of that one, but not those of the multitude. + +_Cri._ Clearly. + +_Socr._ He ought, therefore, so to practice and exercise himself, and to +eat and drink, as seems fitting to the one who presides and knows, +rather than to all others together. + +_Cri._ It is so. + +_Socr._ Well, then, if he disobeys the one, and disregards his opinion +and praise, but respects that of the multitude and of those who know +nothing, will he not suffer some evil? + +_Cri._ How should he not? + +_Socr._ But what is this evil? Whither does it tend, and on what part +of him that disobeys will it fall? + +_Cri._ Clearly on his body, for this it ruins. + +_Socr._ You say well. The case is the same, too, Crito, with all other +things, not to go through them all. With respect then, to things just +and unjust, base and honorable, good and evil, about which we are now +consulting, ought we to follow the opinion of the multitude, and to +respect it, or that of one, if there is any one who understands, whom we +ought to reverence and respect rather than all others together? And if +we do not obey him, shall we not corrupt and injure that part of +ourselves which becomes better by justice, but is ruined by injustice? +Or is this nothing? + +_Cri._ I agree with you, Socrates. + +8. _Socr._ Come, then, if we destroy that which becomes better by what +is wholesome, but is impaired by what is unwholesome, through being +persuaded by those who do not understand, can we enjoy life when that is +impaired? And this is the body we are speaking of, is it not? + +_Cri._ Yes. + +_Socr._ Can we, then, enjoy life with a diseased and impaired body? + +_Cri._ By no means. + +_Socr._ But can we enjoy life when that is impaired which injustice +ruins but justice benefits? Or do we think that to be of less value than +the body, whatever part of us it may be, about which injustice and +justice are concerned' + +_Cri._ By no means. + +_Socr._ But of more value? + +_Cri._ Much more. + +_Socr._ We must not then, my excellent friend, so much regard what the +multitude will say of us, but what he will say who understands the just +and the unjust, the one, even truth itself. So that at first you did +not set out with a right principle, when you laid it down that we ought +to regard the opinion of the multitude with respect to things just and +honorable and good, and their contraries. How ever, some one may say, +are not the multitude able to put us to death? + +_Cri._ This, too, is clear, Socrates, any one might say so. + +_Socr._ You say truly. But, my admirable friend, this principle which we +have just discussed appears to me to be the same as it was before[10]. +And consider this, moreover, whether it still holds good with us or not, +that we are not to be anxious about living but about living well. + +_Cri._ It does hold good. + +_Socr._ And does this hold good or not, that to live well and Honorable +and justly are the same thing? + +_Cri._ It does. + +9. _Socr._ From what has been admitted, then, this consideration arises, +whether it is just or not that I should endeavor to leave this place +without the permission of the Athenians. And should it appear to be +just, we will make the attempt, but if not, we will give it up. But as +to the considerations which you mention, of an outlay of money, +reputation, and the education of children, beware, Crito, lest such +considerations as these in reality belong to these multitudes, who +rashly put one to death, and would restore one to life, if they could do +so, without any reason at all. But we, since reason so requires, must +consider nothing else than what we just now mentioned, whether we shall +act justly in paying money and contracting obligations to those who +will lead me hence, as well they who lead me as we who are led hence, or +whether, in truth, we shall not act unjustly in doing all these things. +And if we should appear in so doing to be acting unjustly, observe that +we must not consider whether from remaining here and continuing quiet we +must needs die, or suffer any thing else, rather than whether we shall +be acting unjustly. + +_Cri._ You appear to me to speak wisely, Socrates, but see what we are +to do. + +_Socr._ Let us consider the matter together, my friend, and if you have +any thing to object to what I say, make good your objection, and I will +yield to you, but if not, cease, my excellent friend, to urge upon me +the same thing so often, that I ought to depart hence against the will +of the Athenians. For I highly esteem your endeavors to persuade me thus +to act, so long as it is not against my will Consider, then, the +beginning of our inquiry, whether it is stated to your entire +satisfaction, and endeavor to answer the question put to you exactly as +you think right. + +_Cri._ I will endeavor to do so. + +10. _Socr._ Say we, then, that we should on no account deliberately +commit injustice, or may we commit injustice under certain +circumstances, under others not? Or is it on no account either good or +honorable to commit injustice, as we have often agreed on former +occasions, and as we just now said? Or have all those our former +admissions been dissipated in these few days, and have we, Crito, old +men as we are, been for a long time seriously conversing with each other +without knowing that we in no respect differ from children? Or does the +case, beyond all question, stand as we then determined? Whether the +multitude allow it or not, and whether we must suffer a more severe or a +milder punishment than this, still is injustice on every account both +evil and disgraceful to him who commits it? Do we admit this, or not? + +_Cri._ We do admit it. + +_Socr._ On no account, therefore, ought we to act unjustly. + +_Cri._ Surely not. + +_Socr._ Neither ought one who is injured to return the injury, as the +multitude think, since it is on no account right to act unjustly. + +_Cri._ It appears not. + +_Socr._ What, then? Is it right to do evil, Crito, or not? + +_Cri._ Surely it is not right, Socrates. + +_Socr._ But what? To do evil in return when one has been evil-entreated, +is that right, or not? + +_Cri._ By no means. + +_Socr._ For to do evil to men differs in no respect from committing +injustice. + +_Cri._ You say truly. + +_Socr._ It is not right, therefore, to return an injury, or to do evil +to any man, however one may have suffered from him. But take care, +Crito, that in allowing these things you do not allow them contrary to +your opinion, for I know that to some few only these things both do +appear, and will appear, to be true. They, then, to whom these things +appear true, and they to whom they do not, have no sentiment in common, +and must needs despise each other, while they look to each other's +opinions. Consider well, then, whether you coincide and think with me, +and whether we can begin our deliberations from this point--that it is +never right either to do an injury or to return an injury, or when one +has been evil-entreated, to revenge one's self by doing evil in return, +or do you dissent from, and not coincide in this principle? For so it +appears to me, both long since and now, but if you in any respect think +otherwise, say so and inform me. But if you persist in your former +opinions, hear what follows. + +_Cri._ I do persist in them, and think with you. Speak on, then. + +_Socr._ I say next, then, or rather I ask; whether when a man has +promised to do things that are just he ought to do them, or evade his +promise? + +_Cri._ He ought to do them. + +11. _Socr._ Observe, then, what follows. By departing hence without the +leave of the city, are we not doing evil to some, and that to those to +whom we ought least of all to do it, or not? And do we abide by what we +agreed on as being just, or do we not? + +_Cri._ I am unable to answer your question, Socrates; for I do not +understand it. + +_Socr._ Then, consider it thus. If, while we were preparing to run away, +or by whatever name we should call it, the laws and commonwealth should +come, and, presenting themselves before us, should say, "Tell me, +Socrates, what do you purpose doing? Do you design any thing else by +this proceeding in which you are engaged than to destroy us, the laws, +and the whole city, so far as you are able? Or do you think it possible +for that city any longer to subsist, and not be subverted, in which +judgments that are passed have no force, but are set aside and destroyed +by private persons?"--what should we say, Crito, to these and similar +remonstrances? For any one, especially an orator, would have much to say +on the violation of the law, which enjoins that judgments passed shall +be enforced. Shall we say to them that the city has done us an +injustice, and not passed a right sentence? Shall we say this, or what +else? + +_Cri._ This, by Jupiter! Socrates. + +12. _Socr._ What, then, if the laws should say, "Socrates, was it not +agreed between us that you should abide by the judgments which the city +should pronounce?" And if we should wonder at their speaking thus, +perhaps they would say, "Wonder not, Socrates, at what we say, but +answer, since you are accustomed to make use of questions and answers. +For, come, what charge have you against us and the city, that you +attempt to destroy us? Did we not first give you being? and did not your +father, through us, take your mother to wife and beget you? Say, then, +do you find fault with those laws among us that relate to marriage as +being bad?" I should say, "I do not find fault with them." "Do you with +those that relate to your nurture when born, and the education with +which you were instructed? Or did not the laws, ordained on this point, +enjoin rightly, in requiring your father to instruct you in music and +gymnastic exercises?" I should say, rightly. Well, then, since you were +born, nurtured, and educated through our means, can you say, first of +all, that you are not both our offspring and our slave, as well you as +your ancestors? And if this be so, do you think that there are equal +rights between us? and whatever we attempt to do to you, do you think +you may justly do to us in turn? Or had you not equal rights with your +father, or master, if you happened to have one, so as to return what you +suffered, neither to retort when found fault with, nor, when stricken, +to strike again, nor many other things of the kind; but that with your +country and the laws you may do so; so that if we attempt to destroy +you, thinking it to be just, you also should endeavor, so far as you are +able, in return, to destroy us, the laws, and your country; and in doing +this will you say that you act justly--you who, in reality, make virtue +your chief object? Or are you so wise as not to know that one's country +is more honorable, venerable, and sacred, and more highly prized both by +gods, and men possessed of understanding, than mother and father, and +all other progenitors; and that one ought to reverence, submit to, and +appease one's country, when angry, rather than one's father; and either +persuade it or do what it orders, and to suffer quietly if it bids one +suffer, whether to be beaten, or put in bonds; or if it sends one out to +battle there to be wounded or slain, this must be done; for justice so +requires, and one must not give way, or retreat, or leave one's post; +but that both in war and in a court of justice, and everywhere one must +do what one's city and country enjoin, or persuade it in such manner as +justice allows; but that to offer violence either to one's mother or +father is not holy, much less to one's country? What shall we say to +these things, Crito? That the laws speak the truth, or not? + +_Cri._ It seems so to me. + +13. _Socr._ "Consider, then, Socrates," the laws perhaps might say, +"whether we say truly that in what you are now attempting you are +attempting to do what is not just toward us. For we, having given you +birth, nurtured, instructed you, and having imparted to you and all +other citizens all the good in our power, still proclaim, by giving the +power to every Athenian who pleases, when he has arrived at years of +discretion, and become acquainted with the business of the state, and +us, the laws, that any one who is not satisfied with us may take his +property, and go wherever he pleases. And if any one of you wishes to go +to a colony, if he is not satisfied with us and the city, or to migrate +and settle in another country, none of us, the laws, hinder or forbid +him going whithersoever he pleases, taking with him all his property. +But whoever continues with us after he has seen the manner in which we +administer justice, and in other respects govern the city, we now say +that he has in fact entered into a compact with us to do what we order; +and we affirm that he who does not obey is in three respects guilty of +injustice--because he does not obey us who gave him being, and because +he does not obey us who nurtured him, and because, having made a compact +that he would obey us, he neither does so, nor does he persuade us if we +do any thing wrongly; though we propose for his consideration, and do +not rigidly command him to do what we order, but leave him the choice of +one of two things, either to persuade us, or to do what we require, and +yet he does neither of these." + +14. "And we say that you, O Socrates! will be subject to these charges +if you accomplish your design, and that not least of the Athenians, but +most so of all." And if I should ask, "For what reason?" they would +probably justly retort on me by saying that, among all the Athenians, I +especially made this compact with them. For they would say, "Socrates, +we have strong proof of this, that you were satisfied both with us and +the city; for, of all the Athenians, you especially would never have +dwelt in it if it had not been especially agreeable to you; for you +never went out of the city to any of the public spectacles, except once +to the Isthmian games, nor anywhere else, except on military service, +nor have you ever gone abroad as other men do, nor had you ever had any +desire to become acquainted with any other city or other laws, but we +and our city were sufficient for you; so strongly were you attached to +us, and so far did you consent to submit to our government, both in +other respects and in begetting children in this city, in consequence of +your being satisfied with it. Moreover, in your very trial, it was in +your power to have imposed on yourself a sentence of exile, if you +pleased, and might then have done, with the consent of the city, what +you now attempt against its consent. Then, indeed, you boasted yourself +as not being grieved if you must needs die; but you preferred, as you +said, death to exile. Now, however, you are neither ashamed of those +professions, nor do you revere us, the laws, since you endeavor to +destroy us, and you act as the vilest slave would act, by endeavoring to +make your escape contrary to the conventions and the compacts by which +you engaged to submit to our government. First, then, therefore, answer +us this, whether we speak the truth or not in affirming that you agreed +to be governed by us in deed, though not in word?" What shall we say to +this, Crito? Can we do otherwise than assent? + +_Cri._ We must needs do so, Socrates. + +_Socr._ "What else, then," they will say, "are you doing but violating +the conventions and compacts which you made with us, though you did not +enter into them from compulsion or through deception, or from being +compelled to determine in a short time but during the space of seventy +years, in which you might have departed if you had been dissatisfied +with us, and the compacts had not appeared to you to be just? You, +however, preferred neither Lacedæmon nor Crete, which you several times +said are governed by good laws, nor any other of the Grecian or +barbarian cities; but you have been less out of Athens than the lame and +the blind, and other maimed persons. So much, it is evident, were you +satisfied with the city and us, the laws, beyond the rest of the +Athenians; for who can be satisfied with a city without laws? But now +will you not abide by your compacts? You will, if you are persuaded by +us, Socrates, and will not make yourself ridiculous by leaving the +city." + +15. "For consider, by violating these compacts and offending against any +of them, what good you will do to yourself or your friends. For that +your friends will run the risk of being themselves banished, and +deprived of the rights of citizenship, or of forfeiting their property, +is pretty clear. And as for yourself, if you should go to one of the +neighboring cities, either Thebes or Megara, for both are governed by +good laws, you will go there, Socrates, as an enemy to their polity; and +such as have any regard for their country will look upon you with +suspicion, regarding you as a corrupter of the laws; and you will +confirm the opinion of the judges, so that they will appear to have +condemned you rightly, for whose is a corrupter of the laws will appear +in all likelihood to be a corrupter of youths and weak-minded men. Will +you, then, avoid these well-governed cities, and the best-ordered men? +And should you do so, will it be worth your while to live? Or will you +approach them, and have the effrontery to converse with them, Socrates, +on subjects the same as you did here--that virtue and justice, legal +institutions and laws, should be most highly valued by men? And do you +not think that this conduct of Socrates would be very indecorous? You +must think so. But you will keep clear of these places, and go to +Thessaly, to Crito's friends, for there are the greatest disorder and +licentiousness; and perhaps they will gladly hear you relating how +drolly you escaped from prison, clad in some dress or covered with a +skin, or in some other disguise such as fugitives are wont to dress +themselves in, having so changed your usual appearance. And will no one +say that you, though an old man, with but a short time to live, in all +probability, have dared to have such a base desire of life as to violate +the most sacred laws? Perhaps not, should you not offend any one. But if +you should, you will hear, Socrates, many things utterly unworthy of +you. You will live, too, in a state of abject dependence on all men, +and as their slave. But what will you do in Thessaly besides feasting, +as if you had gone to Thessaly to a banquet? And what will become of +those discourses about justice and all other virtues? But do you wish to +live for the sake of your children, that you may rear and educate them? +What then? Will you take them to Thessaly, and there rear and educate +them, making them aliens to their country, that they may owe you this +obligation too? Or, if not so, being reared here, will they be better +reared and educated while you are living, though not with them, for your +friends will take care of them? Whether, if you go to Thessaly, will +they take care of them, but if you go to Hades will they not take care +of them? If, however, any advantage is to be derived from those that say +they are your friends, we must think they will." + +16. "Then, O Socrates! be persuaded by us who have nurtured you, and do +not set a higher value on your children, or on life, or on any thing +else than justice, that, when you arrive in Hades, you may have all this +to say in your defense before those who have dominion there. For neither +here in this life, if you do what is proposed, does it appear to be +better, or more just, or more holy to yourself, or any of your friends; +nor will it be better for you when you arrive there. But now you depart, +if you do depart, unjustly treated, not by us, the laws, but by men; but +should you escape, having thus disgracefully returned injury for injury, +and evil for evil, having violated your own compacts and conventions +which you made with us, and having done evil to those to whom you least +of all should have done it--namely, yourself, your friends, your +country, and us--both we shall be indignant with you as long as you +live, and there our brothers, the laws in Hades, will not receive you +favorably knowing that you attempted, so far as you were able, to +destroy us. Let not Crito, then, persuade you to do what he advises, +rather than we." + +17. These things, my dear friend Crito, be assured, I seem to hear as +the votaries of Cybele[11] seem to hear the flutes. And the sound of +these words booms in my ear, and makes me incapable of hearing any thing +else. Be sure, then, so long as I retain my present opinions, if you +should say any thing contrary to these, you will speak in vain. If, +however, you think that you can prevail at all, say on. + +_Cri._ But, Socrates, I have nothing to say. + +_Socr._ Desist, then, Crito, and let us pursue this course, since this +way the deity leads us. + + +FOOTNOTES + + [6] See the Phædo sec 1. + + [7] A promontory at the southern extremity of Attica + + [8] The Eleven + + [9] See Homer's "Iliad," 1 IX, v 363 + + [10] That is to say, the principle which we had laid down in former + discussions that no regard is to be had to popular opinion, is still + found to hold good. + + [11] The Corybantes, priests of Cybele, who in their solemn festivals + made such a noise with flutes that the hearers could hear no other + sound. + + + + +INTRODUCTION TO THE PHÆDO. + + +This dialogue presents us with an account of the manner In which +Socrates spent the last day of his, life, and how he met his death. The +main subject is that of the soul's immortality, which Socrates takes +upon himself to prove with as much certainty as it is possible for the +human mind to arrive at. The question itself, though none could be +better suited to the occasion, arises simply and naturally from the +general conversation that precedes it. + +When his friends visit him in the morning for the purpose of spending +this his last day with him, they find him sitting up in bed, and rubbing +his leg, which had just been freed from bonds. He remarks on the +unaccountable alternation and connection between pleasure and pain, and +adds that Æsop, had he observed it, would have made a fable from it. +This remark reminds Cebes of Socrates's having put some of Æsop's fables +into metre since his imprisonment, and he asks, for the satisfaction of +the poet Evenus, what has induced him to do so. Socrates explains his +reason, and concludes by bidding him tell Evenus to follow him as soon +as he can. Simmias expresses his surprise at this message, on which +Socrates asks, "Is not Evenus a philosopher?" and on the question being +answered in the affirmative, he says that he or any philosopher would be +willing to die, though perhaps he would not commit violence on himself. +This, again, seems a contradiction to Simmias; but Socrates explains it +by showing that our souls are placed in the body by God, and may not +leave it without his permission. Whereupon Cebes objects that in that +case foolish men only would wish to die, and quit the service of the +best of masters, to which Simmias agrees. Socrates, therefore, proposes +to plead his cause before them, and to show that there is a great +probability that after this life he shall go into the presence of God +and good men, and be happy in proportion to the purity of his own mind. + +He begins[12] by stating that philosophy itself is nothing else than a +preparation for and meditation on death. Death and philosophy have this +in common: death separates the soul from the body; philosophy draws off +the mind from bodily things to the contemplation of truth and virtue: +for he is not a true philosopher who is led away by bodily pleasures, +since the senses are the source of ignorance and all evil. The mind, +therefore, is entirely occupied in meditating on death, and freeing +itself as much as possible from the body. How, then, can such a man be +afraid of death? He who grieves at the approach of death can not be a +true lover of wisdom, but is a lover of his body. And, indeed, most men +are temperate through intemperance; that is to say, they abstain from +some pleasures that they may the more easily and permanently enjoy +others. They embrace only a shadow of virtue, not virtue itself, since +they estimate the value of all things by the pleasures they afford. +Whereas the philosopher purifies his mind from all such things, and +pursues virtue and wisdom for their own sakes. This course Socrates +himself has pursued to the utmost of his ability, with what success he +should shortly know; and on these grounds he did not repine at leaving +his friends in this world, being persuaded that in another he should +meet with good masters and good friends. + +Upon this Cebes[13] says that he agrees with all else that had been +said, but can not help entertaining doubts of what will become of the +soul when separated from the body, for the common opinion is that it is +dispersed and vanishes like breath or smoke, and no longer exists +anywhere. Socrates, therefore, proposes to inquire into the probability +of the case, a fit employment for him under his present circumstances. + +His first argument[14] is drawn from the ancient belief prevalent among +men, that souls departing hence exist in Hades, and are produced again +from the dead. If this be true, it must follow that our souls are there, +for they could not be produced again if they did not exist; and its +truth is confirmed by this, that it is a general law of nature that +contraries are produced from contraries--the greater from the less, +strong from weak, slow from swift, heat from cold, and in like manner +life from death, and vice versa. To explain this more clearly, he +proceeds to show that what is changed passes from one state to another, +and so undergoes three different states--first, the actual state; then +the transition; and, thirdly, the new state; as from a state of sleep, +by awaking to being awake. In like manner birth is a transition from a +state of death to life, and dying from life to death; so that the soul, +by the act of dying, only passes to another state. If it were not so, +all nature would in time become dead, just as if people did not awake +out of sleep all would at last be buried in eternal sleep. Whence the +conclusion is that the souls of men are not annihilated by death. + +Cebes[15] agrees to this reasoning, and adds that he is further +convinced, of its truth by calling to mind an argument used by Socrates +on former occasions, that knowledge is nothing but reminiscence; and if +this is so, the soul must have existed, and had knowledge, before it +became united to the body. + +But in case Simmias should not yet be satisfied, Socrates[16] proceeds +to enlarge on this, his second argument, drawn from reminiscence. We +daily find that we are carried from the knowledge of one thing to +another. Things perceived by the eyes, ears, and other senses bring up +the thought of other things; thus the sight of a lyre or a garment +reminds us of a friend, and not only are we thus reminded of sensible +objects, but of things which are comprehended by the mind alone, and +have no sensitive existence. For we have formed in our minds an idea of +abstract equality, of the beautiful, the just, the good; in short, of +every thing which we say exists without the aid of the senses, for we +use them only in the perception of individual things; whence it follows +that the mind did not acquire this knowledge in this life, but must have +had it before, and therefore the soul must have existed before. + +Simmias and Cebes[17] both agree in admitting that Socrates has proved +the pre-existence of the soul, but insist that he has not shown it to be +immortal, for that nothing hinders but that, according to the popular +opinion, it may be dispersed at the dissolution of the body. To which +Socrates replies, that if their former admissions are joined to his last +argument, the immortality, as well as the pre-existence, of the soul has +been sufficiently proved. For if it is true that any thing living is +produced from that which is dead, then the soul must exist after death, +otherwise it could not be produced again. + +However, to remove the apprehension that the soul may be dispersed by a +wind, as it were, Socrates proceeds, in his third argument,[18] to +examine that doubt more thoroughly. What, then, is meant by being +dispersed but being dissolved into its parts? In order, therefore, to a +thing being capable of dispersion it must be compounded of parts. Now, +there are two kinds of things--one compounded, the other simple The +former kind is subject to change, the latter not, and can be +comprehended by the mind alone. The one is visible, the other invisible; +and the soul, which is invisible, when it employs the bodily senses, +wanders and is confused, but when it abstracts itself from the body it +attains to the knowledge of that which is eternal, immortal, and +unchangeable. The soul, therefore, being uncompounded and invisible, +must be indissoluble; that is to say, immortal. + +Still Simmias and Cebes[19] are unconvinced. The former objects that the +soul, according to Socrates's own showing, is nothing but a harmony +resulting from a combination of the parts of the body, and so may perish +with the body, as the harmony of a lyre does when the lyre itself is +broken. And Cebes, though he admits that the soul is more durable than +the body, yet objects that it is not, therefore, of necessity immortal, +but may in time wear out; and it is by no means clear that this is not +its last period. + +These objections produce a powerful effect on the rest of the company; +but Socrates, undismayed, exhorts them not to suffer themselves to be +deterred from seeking the truth by any difficulties they may meet with; +and then proceeds[20] to show, in a moment, the fallacy of Simmias's +objection. It was before admitted, he says, that the soul existed before +the body; but harmony is produced after the lyre is formed, so that the +two cases are totally different. And, further, there are various degrees +of harmony, but every soul is as much a soul as any other. But, then, +what will a person who holds this doctrine, that the soul is harmony, +say of virtue and vice in the soul? Will he call them another kind of +harmony and discord? If so, he will contradict himself; for it is +admitted that one soul is not more or less a soul than another, and +therefore one can not he more or less harmonized than another, and one +could not admit of a greater degree of virtue or vice than another; and +indeed a soul, being harmony, could not partake of vice at all, which is +discord. + +Socrates, having thus satisfactorily answered the argument adduced by +Simmias, goes on to rebut that of Cebes,[21] who objected that the soul +might in time wear out. In order to do this, he relates that, when a +young man, he attempted to investigate the causes of all things, why +they exist and why they perish; and in the course of his researches, +finding the futility of attributing the existence of things to what are +called natural causes, he resolved on endeavoring to find out the +reasons of things. He therefore assumed that there are a certain +abstract beauty and goodness and magnitude, and so of all other things; +the truth of which being granted, he thinks he shall be able to prove +that the soul is immortal. + +This, then, being conceded by Cebes, Socrates[22] argues that every +thing that is beautiful is so from partaking of abstract beauty, and +great from partaking of magnitude, and little from partaking of +littleness. Now, it is impossible, he argues, that contraries can exist +in the same thing at the same time; for instance, the same thing can not +possess both magnitude and littleness, but one will withdraw at the +approach of the other; and not only so, but things which, though not +contrary to each other, yet always contain contraries within themselves, +can not co-exist; for instance, the number three has no contrary, yet +it contains within itself the idea of odd, which is the contrary of +even, and so three never can become even; in like manner, heat while it +is heat can never admit the idea of its contrary, cold. Now, if this +method of reasoning is applied to the soul, it will be found to be +immortal; for life and death are contraries, and never can co-exist; but +wherever the soul is, there is life: so that it contains within itself +that which is contrary to death, and consequently can never admit of +death; therefore it is immortal. + +With this he closes his arguments in support of the soul's immortality. +Cebes owns himself convinced, but Simmias, though he is unable to make +any objection to the soundness of Socrates's reasoning, can not help +still entertaining doubts on the subject. If, however, the soul is +immortal, Socrates proceeds,[23] great need is there in this life to +endeavor to become as wise and good as possible. For if death were a +deliverance from every thing, it would be a great gain for the wicked; +but since the soul appears to be immortal, it must go to the place +suited to its nature. For it is said that each person's demon conducts +him to a place where he receives sentence according to his deserts. + +He then[24] draws a fanciful picture of the various regions of the +earth, to which the good and the bad will respectively go after death, +and exhorts his friends to use every endeavor to acquire virtue and +wisdom in this life, "for," he adds, "the reward is noble, and the hope +great." + +Having thus brought his subject to a conclusion, Socrates proposes to +bathe himself, in order not to trouble others to wash his dead body. +Crito thereupon asks if he has any commands to give, and especially how +he would be buried, to which he, with his usual cheerfulness, makes +answer, "Just as you please, if only you can catch me;" and then, +smiling, he reminds them that after death he shall be no longer with +them, and begs the others of the party to be sureties to Crito for his +absence from the body, as they had been before bound for his presence +before his judges. + +After he had bathed, and taken leave of his children and the women of +his family the officer of the Eleven comes in to intimate to him that it +is now time to drink the poison. Crito urges a little delay, as the sun +had not yet set; but Socrates refuses to make himself ridiculous by +showing such a fondness for life. The man who is to administer the +poison is therefore sent for; and on his holding out the cup, Socrates, +neither trembling nor changing color or countenance at all, but, as he +was wont, looking steadfastly at the man, asked if he might make a +libation to any one; and being told that no more poison than enough had +been mixed, he simply prayed that his departure from this to another +world might be happy, and then drank off the poison, readily and calmly. +His friends, who had hitherto with difficulty restrained themselves, +could no longer control the outward expressions of grief, to which +Socrates said, "What are you doing, my friends? I, for this reason, +chiefly, sent away the women, that they might not commit any folly of +this kind; for I have heard that it is right to die with good omens. Be +quiet, therefore, and bear up." + +When he had walked about for a while his legs began to grow heavy, so he +lay down on his back; and his body, from the feet upward, gradually grew +cold and stiff. His last words were, "Crito, we owe a cock to +Æsculapius; pay it, therefore, and do not neglect it." + +"This," concludes Phædo, "was the end of our friend--a man, as we may +say, the best of all his time, that we have known, and, moreover, the +most wise and just." + + +FOOTNOTES + + [12] Sec. 21-39. + + [13] Sec. 39, 40. + + [14] Sec. 40-46. + + [15] Sec. 47. + + [16] Sec. 48-57. + + [17] Sec. 55-59. + + [18] Sec. 61-75. + + [19] Sec. 76-84. + + [20] Sec. 93-99. + + [21] Sec. 100-112. + + [22] Sec. 112-128. + + [23] Sec. 129-131. + + [24] Sec. 132-145. + + + + +PHÆDO; +OR, +THE IMMORTALITY OF THE SOUL. + + +FIRST ECHECRATES, PHÆDO. +THEN SOCRATES, APOLLODORUS, CEBES, SIMMIAS, AND CRITO. + +_Ech._ Were you personally present, Phædo, with Socrates on that day +when he drank the poison in prison, or did you hear an account of it +from some one else? + +_Phæd._ I was there myself, Echecrates. + +_Ech._ What, then, did he say before his death, and how did he die? for +I should be glad to hear: for scarcely any citizen of Phlius[25] ever +visits Athens now, nor has any stranger for a long time come from thence +who was able to give us a clear account of the particulars, except that +he had died from drinking poison; but he was unable to tell us any thing +more. + +2. _Phæd._ And did you not hear about the trial--how it went off? + +_Ech._ Yes; some one told me this; and I wondered that, as it took +place so long ago, he appears to have died long afterward. What was the +reason of this, Phædo? + +_Phæd._ An accidental circumstance happened in his favor, Echecrates; +for the poop of the ship which the Athenians send to Delos chanced to be +crowned on the day before the trial. + +_Ech._ But what is this ship? + +_Phæd._ It is the ship, as the Athenians say, in which Theseus formerly +conveyed the fourteen boys and girls to Crete, and saved both them and +himself. They, therefore, made a vow to Apollo on that occasion, as it +is said, that if they were saved they would every year dispatch a solemn +embassy to Delos; which, from that time to the present, they send yearly +to the god. 3. When they begin the preparations for this solemn embassy, +they have a law that the city shall be purified during this period, and +that no public execution shall take place until the ship has reached +Delos, and returned to Athens; and this occasionally takes a long time, +when the winds happen to impede their passage. The commencement of the +embassy is when the priest of Apollo has crowned the poop of the ship. +And this was done, as I said, on the day before the trial: on this +account Socrates had a long interval in prison between the trial and his +death. + +4. _Ech._ And what, Phædo, were the circumstances of his death? What was +said and done? and who of his friends were with him? or would not the +magistrates allow them to be present, but did he die destitute of +friends? + +_Phæd._ By no means; but some, indeed several, were present. + +_Ech._ Take the trouble, then, to relate to me all the particulars as +clearly as you can, unless you have any pressing business. + +_Phæd._ I am at leisure, and will endeavor to give you a full account; +for to call Socrates to mind, whether speaking myself or listening to +some one else, is always most delightful to me. + +5. _Ech._ And indeed, Phædo, you have others to listen to you who are of +the same mind. However, endeavor to relate every thing as accurately as +you can. + +_Phæd._ I was, indeed, wonderfully affected by being present, for I was +not impressed with a feeling of pity, like one present at the death of a +friend; for the man appeared to me to be happy, Echecrates, both from +his manner and discourse, so fearlessly and nobly did he meet his death: +so much so, that it occurred to me that in going to Hades he was not +going without a divine destiny, but that when he arrived there he would +be happy, if any one ever was. For this reason I was entirely +uninfluenced by any feeling of pity, as would seem likely to be the case +with one present on so mournful an occasion; nor was I affected by +pleasure from being engaged in philosophical discussions, as was our +custom; for our conversation was of that kind. But an altogether +unaccountable feeling possessed me, a kind of unusual mixture compounded +of pleasure and pain together, when I considered that he was immediately +about to die. And all of us who were present were affected in much the +same manner, at one time laughing, at another weeping--one of us +especially, Apollodorus, for you know the man and his manner. + +_Ech._ How should I not? + +6. _Phæd._ He, then, was entirely overcome by these emotions; and I, +too, was troubled, as well as the others. + +_Ech._ But who were present, Phædo? + +_Phæd._ Of his fellow-countrymen, this Apollodorus was present, and +Critobulus, and his father, Crito; moreover, Hermogenes, Epigenes, +Æschines and Antisthenes; Ctesippus the Pæanian, Menexenus, and some +others of his countrymen, were also there: Plato, I think, was sick. + +_Ech._ Were any strangers present? + +_Phæd._ Yes; Simmias, the Theban, Cebes and Phædondes; and from Megara, +Euclides and Terpsion. + +7. _Ech._ But what! were not Aristippus and Cleombrotus present? + +_Phæd._ No, for they were said to be at Ægina. + +_Ech._ Was any one else there? + +_Phæd._ I think that these were nearly all who were present. + +_Ech._ Well, now, what do you say was the subject of conversation? + +_Phæd._ I will endeavor to relate the whole to you from the beginning. +On the preceding days I and the others were constantly in the habit of +visiting Socrates, meeting early in the morning at the court house where +the trial took place, for it was near the prison. 8. Here, then, we +waited every day till the prison was opened, conversing with each other, +for it was not opened very early; but as soon as it was opened we went +in to Socrates, and usually spent the day with him. On that occasion, +however, we met earlier than usual; for on the preceding day, when we +left the prison in the evening, we heard that the ship had arrived from +Delos. We therefore urged each other to come as early as possible to the +accustomed place. Accordingly we came; and the porter, who used to admit +us, coming out, told us to wait, and not to enter until he had called +us. "For," he said, "the Eleven are now freeing Socrates from his bonds, +and announcing to him that he must die to-day." But in no long time he +returned, and bade us enter. + +9. When we entered, we found Socrates just freed from his bonds, and +Xantippe, you know her, holding his little boy, and sitting by him. As +soon as Xantippe saw us she wept aloud, and said such things as women +usually do on such occasions--as, "Socrates, your friends will now +converse with you for the last time, and you with them." But Socrates, +looking towards Crito, said: "Crito, let some one take her home." Upon +which some of Crito's attendants led her away, wailing and beating +herself. + +But Socrates, sitting up in bed, drew up his leg, and rubbed it with his +hand, and as he rubbed it, said: "What an unaccountable thing, my +friends, that seems to be, which men call pleasure! and how wonderfully +is it related toward that which appears to be its contrary, pain, in +that they will not both be present to a man at the same time! Yet if any +one pursues and attains the one, he is almost always compelled to +receive the other, as if they were both united together from one head." + +10. "And it seems tome," he said, "that if Æsop had observed this he +would have made a fable from it, how the deity, wishing to reconcile +these warring principles, when he could not do so, united their heads +together, and from hence whomsoever the one visits the other attends +immediately after; as appears to be the case with me, since I suffered +pain in my leg before from the chain, but now pleasure seems to have +succeeded." + +Hereupon Cebes, interrupting him, said: "By Jupiter! Socrates, you have +done well in reminding me; with respect to the poems which you made, by +putting into metre those Fables of Æsop and the hymn to Apollo, several +other persons asked me, and especially Evenus recently, with what design +you made them after you came here, whereas before you had never made +any. 11. If therefore, you care at all that I should be able to answer +Evenus, when he asks me again--for I am sure he will do so--tell me +what I must say to him." + +"Tell him the truth, then, Cebes," he replied, "that I did not make them +from a wish to compete with him, or his poems, for I knew that this +would be no easy matter; but that I might discover the meaning of +certain dreams, and discharge my conscience, if this should happen to be +the music which they have often ordered me to apply myself to. For they +were to the following purport: often in my past life the same dream +visited me, appearing at different times in different forms, yet always +saying the same thing--'Socrates,' it said, 'apply yourself to and +practice music.' 12. And I formerly supposed that it exhorted and +encouraged me to continue the pursuit I was engaged in, as those who +cheer on racers, so that the dream encouraged me to continue the pursuit +I was engaged in--namely, to apply myself to music, since philosophy is +the highest music, and I was devoted to it. But now since my trial took +place, and the festival of the god retarded my death, it appeared to me +that if by chance the dream so frequently enjoined me to apply myself to +popular music, I ought not to disobey it, but do so, for that it would +be safer for me not to depart hence before I had discharged my +conscience by making some poems in obedience to the dream. Thus, then, I +first of all composed a hymn to the god whose festival was present; and +after the god, considering that a poet, if he means to be a poet, ought +to make fables, and not discourses, and knowing that I was not skilled +in making fables, I therefore put into verse those Fables of Æsop, which +were at hand, and were known to me, and which first occurred to me." + +13. "Tell this, then, to Evenus, Cebes, and bid him farewell, and if he +is wise, to follow me as soon as he can. But I depart, as it seems, +to-day; for so the Athenians order." + +To this Simmias said, "What is this, Socrates, which you exhort Evenus +to do? for I often meet with him; and, from what I know of him, I am +pretty certain that he will not at all be willing to comply with your +advice." + +"What, then," said he, "is not Evenus a philosopher?" + +"To me he seems to be so," said Simmias. + +"Then he will be willing," rejoined Socrates, "and so will every one who +worthily engages in this study. Perhaps, indeed, he will not commit +violence on himself; for that, they say, is not allowable." And as he +said this he let down his leg from the bed on the ground, and in this +posture continued during the remainder of the discussion. + +Cebes then asked him, "What do you mean, Socrates, by saying that it is +not lawful to commit violence on one's self, but that a philosopher +should be willing to follow one who is dying?" + +14. "What, Cebes! have not you and Simmias, who have conversed +familiarly with Philolaus[26] on this subject, heard?" + +"Nothing very clearly, Socrates." + +"I, however, speak only from hearsay; what, then, I have heard I have no +scruple in telling. And perhaps it is most becoming for one who is about +to travel there to inquire and speculate about the journey thither, what +kind we think it is. What else can one do in the interval before +sunset?" + +"Why, then, Socrates, do they say that it is not allowable to kill one's +self? for I, as you asked just now, have heard both Philolaus, when he +lived with us, and several others, say that it was not right to do this; +but I never heard any thing clear upon the subject from any one." + +15. "Then, you should consider it attentively," said Socrates, "for +perhaps you may hear. Probably, however, it will appear wonderful to +you, if this alone, of all other things, is a universal truth,[27] and +it never happens to a man, as is the case in all other things, that at +some times and to some persons only it is better to die than to live; +yet that these men for whom it is better to die--this probably will +appear wonderful to you--may not without impiety do this good to +themselves, but must await another benefactor." + +16. Then Cebes, gently smiling, said, speaking in his own dialect,[28] +"Jove be witness!" + +"And, indeed," said Socrates, "it would appear to be unreasonable; yet +still, perhaps, it has some reason on its side. The maxim, indeed, given +on this subject in the mystical doctrines,[29] that we men are in a kind +of prison, and that we ought not to free ourselves from it and escape, +appears to me difficult to be understood, and not easy to penetrate. +This, however, appears to me, Cebes, to be well said: that the gods take +care of us, and that we men are one of their possessions. Does it not +seem so to you?" + +"It does," replied Cebes. + +"Therefore," said he, "if one of your slaves were to kill himself, +without your having intimated that you wished him to die, should you not +be angry with him, and should you not punish him if you could?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +"Perhaps, then, in this point of view, it is not unreasonable to assert +that a man ought not to kill himself before the deity lays him under a +necessity of doing so, such as that now laid on me." + +17. "This, indeed," said Cebes, "appears to be probable. But what you +said just now, Socrates, that philosophers should be very willing to +die, appears to be an absurdity, if what we said just now is agreeable +to reason--that it is God who takes care of us, and that we are his +property. For that the wisest men should not be grieved at leaving that +service in which they govern them who are the best of all +masters--namely, the gods--is not consistent with reason; for surely he +can not think that he will take better care of himself when he has +become free. But a foolish man might perhaps think thus, that he should +fly from his master, and would not reflect that he ought not to fly from +a good one, but should cling to him as much as possible; therefore he +would fly against all reason; but a man of sense would desire to be +constantly with one better than himself. Thus, Socrates, the contrary of +what you just now said is likely to be the case; for it becomes the wise +to be grieved at dying, but the foolish to rejoice." + +18. Socrates, on hearing this, appeared to me to be pleased with the +pertinacity of Cebes, and, looking toward us, said, "Cebes, you see, +always searches out arguments, and is not at all willing to admit at +once any thing one has said." + +Whereupon Simmias replied, "But, indeed, Socrates, Cebes appears to me +now to say something to the purpose; for with what design should men +really wise fly from masters who are better than themselves, and so +readily leave them? And Cebes appears to me to direct his argument +against you, because you so easily endure to abandon both us and those +good rulers, as you yourself confess, the gods." + +"You speak justly," said Socrates, "for I think you mean that I ought to +make my defense to this charge, as if I were in a court of justice." + +"Certainly," replied Simmias. + +19. "Come, then," said he, "I will endeavor to defend myself more +successfully before you than before the judges. For," he proceeded, +"Simmias and Cebes, if I did not think that I should go, first of all, +among other deities who are both wise and good, and, next, among men who +have departed this life, better than any here, I should be wrong in not +grieving at death; but now, be assured, I hope to go among good men, +though I would not positively assert it. That, however, I shall go among +gods who are perfectly good masters, be assured I can positively assert +this, if I can any thing of the kind. So that, on this account, I am not +so much troubled, but I entertain a good hope that something awaits +those who die, and that, as was said long since, it will be far better +for the good than the evil." + +20. "What, then, Socrates," said Simmias, "would you go away keeping +this persuasion to yourself, or would you impart it to us? For this good +appears to me to be also common to us; and at the same time it will be +an apology for you, if you can persuade us to believe what you say." + +"I will endeavor to do so," he said. "But first let us attend to Crito +here, and see what it is he seems to have for some time wished to say." + +"What else, Socrates," said Crito, "but what he who is to give you the +poison told me some time ago, that I should tell you to speak as little +as possible? For he says that men become too much heated by speaking, +and that nothing of this kind ought to interfere with the poison; and +that, otherwise, those who did so were sometimes compelled to drink two +or three times." + +To which Socrates replied, "Let him alone, and let him attend to his own +business, and prepare to give it me twice, or, if occasion require, even +thrice." + +21. "I was almost certain what you would say," answered Crito, "but he +has been some time pestering me." + +"Never mind him," he rejoined. + +"But now I wish to render an account to you, my judges, of the reason +why a man who has really devoted his life to philosophy, when he is +about to die, appears to me, on good grounds, to have confidence, and to +entertain a firm hope that the greatest good will befall him in the +other world when he has departed this life. How, then, this comes to +pass, Simmias and Cebes, I will endeavor to explain." + +"For as many as rightly apply themselves to philosophy seem to have left +all others in ignorance, that they aim at nothing else than to die and +be dead. If this, then, is true, it would surely be absurd to be anxious +about nothing else than this during their whole life, but, when it +arrives, to be grieved at what they have been long anxious about and +aimed at." + +22. Upon this, Simmias, smiling, said, "By Jupiter! Socrates, though I +am not now at all inclined to smile, you have made me do so; for I think +that the multitude, if they heard this, would think it was very well +said in reference to philosophers, and that our countrymen particularly +would agree with you, that true philosophers do desire death, and that +they are by no means ignorant that they deserve to suffer it." + +"And, indeed, Simmias, they would speak the truth, except in asserting +that they are not ignorant; for they are ignorant of the sense in which +true philosophers desire to die, and in what sense they deserve death, +and what kind of death. But," he said, "let us take leave of them, and +speak to one another. Do we think that death is any thing?" + +"Certainly," replied Simmias. + +23. "Is it any thing else than the separation of the soul from the +body? And is not this to die, for the body to be apart by itself +separated from the soul, and for the soul to subsist apart by itself +separated from the body? Is death any thing else than this?" + +"No, but this," he replied. + +"Consider, then, my good friend, whether you are of the same opinion as +I; for thus, I think, we shall understand better the subject we are +considering. Does it appear to you to be becoming in a philosopher to be +anxious about pleasures, as they are called, such as meats and drinks?" + +"By no means, Socrates," said Simmias. + +"But what? about the pleasures of love?" + +"Not at all." + +24. "What, then? Does such a man appear to you to think other bodily +indulgences of value? For instance, does he seem to you to value or +despise the possession of magnificent garments and sandals, and other +ornaments of the body except so far as necessity compels him to use +them?" + +"The true philosopher," he answered, "appears to me to despise them." + +"Does not, then," he continued, "the whole employment of such a man +appear to you to be, not about the body, but to separate himself from it +as much as possible, and be occupied about his soul?" + +"It does." + +"First of all, then, in such matters, does not the philosopher, above +all other men, evidently free his soul as much as he can from communion +with the body?" + +"It appears so." + +25. "And it appears, Simmias, to the generality of men, that he who +takes no pleasure in such things, and who does not use them, does not +deserve to live; but that he nearly approaches to death who cares +nothing for the pleasures that subsist through the body." + +"You speak very truly." + +"But what with respect to the acquisition of wisdom? Is the body an +impediment, or not, if any one takes it with him as a partner in the +search? What I mean is this: Do sight and hearing convey any truth to +men, or are they such as the poets constantly sing, who say that we +neither hear nor see any thing with accuracy? If, however, these bodily +senses are neither accurate nor clear, much less can the others be so; +for they are all far inferior to these. Do they not seem so to you?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +26. "When, then," said he, "does the soul light on the truth? for when +it attempts to consider any thing in conjunction with the body, it is +plain that it is then led astray by it." + +"You say truly." + +"Must it not, then, be by reasoning, if at all, that any of the things +that really are become known to it?" + +"Yes." + +"And surely the soul then reasons best when none of these things disturb +it--neither hearing, nor sight, nor pain, nor pleasure of any kind; but +it retires as much as possible within itself, taking leave of the body; +and, so far as it can, not communicating or being in contact with it, it +aims at the discovery of that which is." + +"Such is the case." + +"Does not, then, the soul of the philosopher, in these cases, despise +the body, and flee from it, and seek to retire within itself?" + +"It appears so." + +27. "But what as to such things as these, Simmias? Do we say that +justice itself is something or nothing?" + +"We say it is something, by Jupiter!" + +"And that beauty and goodness are something?" + +"How not?" + +"Now, then, have you ever seen any thing of this kind with your eyes?" + +"By no means," he replied. + +"Did you ever lay hold of them by any other bodily sense? But I speak +generally, as of magnitude, health, strength and, in a word, of the +essence of every thing; that is to say, what each is. Is, then, the +exact truth of these perceived by means of the body, or is it thus, +whoever among us habituates himself to reflect most deeply and +accurately on each several thing about which he is considering, he will +make the nearest approach to the knowledge of it?" + +"Certainly." + +28. "Would not he, then, do this with the utmost purity, who should in +the highest degree approach each subject by means of the mere mental +faculties, neither employing the sight in conjunction with the +reflective faculty, nor introducing any other sense together with +reasoning; but who, using pure reflection by itself, should attempt to +search out each essence purely by itself, freed as much as possible from +the eyes and ears, and, in a word, from the whole body, as disturbing +the soul, and not suffering it to acquire truth and wisdom, when it is +in communion with it. Is not he the person, Simmias, if any one can, who +will arrive at the knowledge of that which is?" + +29. "You speak with wonderful truth, Socrates," replied Simmias. + +"Wherefore," he said, "it necessarily follows from all this that some +such opinion as this should be entertained by genuine philosophers, so +that they should speak among themselves as follows: 'A by-path, as it +were, seems to lead us on in our researches undertaken by reason,' +because so long as we are encumbered with the body, and our soul is +contaminated with such an evil, we can never fully attain to what we +desire; and this, we say, is truth. For the body subjects us to +innumerable hinderances on account of its necessary support; and, +moreover, if any diseases befall us, they impede us in our search after +that which is; and it fills us with longings, desires, fears, all kinds +of fancies, and a multitude of absurdities, so that, as it is said in +real truth, by reason of the body it is never possible for us to make +any advances in wisdom. 30. For nothing else than the body and its +desires occasion wars, seditions, and contests; for all wars among us +arise on account of our desire to acquire wealth: and we are compelled +to acquire wealth on account of the body, being enslaved to its service; +and consequently on all these accounts we are hindered in the pursuit of +philosophy. But the worst of all is, that if it leaves us any leisure, +and we apply ourselves to the consideration of any subject, it +constantly obtrudes itself in the midst of our researches, and occasions +trouble and disturbance, and confounds us so that we are not able, by +reason of it, to discern the truth. It has, then, in reality been +demonstrated to us that if we are ever to know any thing purely, we must +be separated from the body, and contemplate the things themselves by the +mere soul; and then, as it seems, we shall obtain that which we desire, +and which we profess ourselves to be lovers of--wisdom--when we are +dead, as reason shows, but not while we are alive. 31. For if it is not +possible to know any thing purely in conjunction with the body, one of +these two things must follow, either that we can never acquire +knowledge, or only after we are dead; for then the soul will subsist +apart by itself, separate from the body, but not before. And while we +live we shall thus, as it seems, approach nearest to knowledge, if we +hold no intercourse or communion at all with the body, except what +absolute necessity requires, nor suffer ourselves to be polluted by its +nature, but purify ourselves from it, until God himself shall release +us. And thus being pure, and freed from the folly of body, we shall in +all likelihood be with others like ourselves, and shall of ourselves +know the whole real essence, and that probably is truth; for it is not +allowable for the impure to attain to the pure. Such things, I think, +Simmias, all true lovers of wisdom must both think and say to one +another. Does it not seem so to you?" + +"Most assuredly, Socrates." + +32. "If this, then," said Socrates, "is true, my friend, there is great +hope for one who arrives where I am going, there, if anywhere, to +acquire that in perfection for the sake of which we have taken so much +pains during our past life; so that the journey now appointed me is set +out upon with good hope, and will be so by any other man who thinks that +his mind has been, as it were, purified." + +"Certainly," said Simmias. + +"But does not purification consist in this, as was said in a former part +of our discourse, in separating as much as possible the soul from the +body, and in accustoming it to gather and collect itself by itself on +all sides apart from the body, and to dwell, so far as it can, both now +and hereafter, alone by itself, delivered, as it were, from the shackles +of the body?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +33. "Is this, then, called death, this deliverance and separation of the +soul from the body?" + +"Assuredly," he answered. + +"But, as we affirmed, those who pursue philosophy rightly are especially +and alone desirous to deliver it; and this is the very study of +philosophers, the deliverance and separation of the soul from the body, +is it not?" + +"It appears so." + +"Then, as I said at first, would it not be ridiculous for a man who has +endeavored throughout his life to live as near as possible to death, +then, when death arrives, to grieve? would not this be ridiculous?" + +"How should it not?" + +"In reality, then, Simmias," he continued, "those who pursue philosophy +rightly, study to die; and to them, of all men, death is least +formidable. Judge from this. Since they altogether hate the body and +desire to keep the soul by itself, would it not be irrational if, when +this comes to pass, they should be afraid and grieve, and not be glad to +go to that place where, on their arrival, they may hope to obtain that +which they longed for throughout life? But they longed for wisdom, and +to be freed from association with that which they hated. 34. Have many +of their own accord wished to descend into Hades, on account of human +objects of affection, their wives and sons, induced by this very hope of +their seeing and being with those whom they have loved? and shall one +who really loves wisdom, and firmly cherishes this very hope, that he +shall nowhere else attain it in a manner worthy of the name, except in +Hades, be grieved at dying, and not gladly go there? We must think that +he would gladly go, my friend, if he be in truth a philosopher; for he +will be firmly persuaded of this, that he will nowhere else than there +attain wisdom in its purity; and if this be so, would it not be very +irrational, as I just now said, if such a man were to be afraid of +death?" + +"Very much so, by Jupiter!" he replied. + +35. "Would not this, then," he resumed, "be a sufficient proof to you +with respect to a man whom you should see grieved when about to die, +that he was not a lover of wisdom, but a lover of his body? And this +same person is probably a lover of riches and a lover of honor, one or +both of these." + +"It certainly is as you say," he replied. + +"Does not, then," he said, "that which is called fortitude, Simmias, +eminently belong to philosophers?" + +"By all means," he answered. + +"And temperance, also, which even the multitude call temperance, and +which consists in not being carried away by the passions, but in holding +them in contempt, and keeping them in subjection, does not this belong +to those only who most despise the body, and live in the study of +philosophy?" + +"Necessarily so," he replied. + +36. "For," he continued, "if you will consider the fortitude and +temperance of others, they will appear to you to be absurd." + +"How so, Socrates?" + +"Do you know," he said, "that all others consider death among the great +evils?" + +"They do indeed," he answered. + +"Then, do the brave among them endure death when they do endure it, +through dread of greater evils?" + +"It is so." + +"All men, therefore, except philosophers, are brave through being afraid +and fear; though it is absurd that any one should be brave through fear +and cowardice." + +"Certainly." + +"But what, are not those among them who keep their passions in +subjection affected in the same way? and are they not temperate through +a kind of intemperance? And although we may say, perhaps, that this is +impossible, nevertheless the manner in which they are affected with +respect to this silly temperance resembles this, for, fearing to be +deprived of other pleasures, and desiring them, they abstain from some, +being mastered by others. And though they call intemperance the being +governed by pleasures, yet it happens to them that, by being mastered by +some pleasures, they master others, and this is similar to what was just +now said, that in a certain manner they become temperate through +intemperance." + +"So it seems," + +37. "My dear Simmias, consider that this is not a right exchange for +virtue, to barter pleasures for pleasures, pains for pains, fear for +fear, and the greater for the lesser, like pieces of money, but that +that alone is the right coin, for which we ought to barter all these +things, wisdom, and for this and with this everything is in reality +bought and sold Fortitude, temperance and justice, and, in a word true +virtue, subsist with wisdom, whether pleasures and fears, and everything +else of the kind, are present or absent, but when separated from wisdom +and changed one for another, consider whether such virtue is not a mere +outline and in reality servile, possessing neither soundness nor truth. +But the really true virtue is a purification from all such things, and +temperance, justice, fortitude and wisdom itself, are a kind of +initiatory purification 38. And those who instituted the mysteries for +us appear to have been by no means contemptible, but in reality to have +intimated long since that whoever shall arrive in Hades unexpiated and +uninitiated shall lie in mud, but he that arrives there purified and +initiated shall dwell with the gods 'For there are,' say those who +preside at the mysteries, 'many wand-bearers, but few inspired'. These +last, in my opinion, are no other than those who have pursued philosophy +rightly that I might be of their number. I have to the utmost of my +ability left no means untried, but have endeavored to the utmost of my +power. But whether I have endeavored rightly, and have in any respect +succeeded, on arriving there I shall know clearly, if it please +God--very shortly, as it appears to me." + +39. "Such, then, Simmias and Cebes," he added, "is the defense I make, +for that I, on good grounds, do not repine or grieve at leaving you and +my masters here, being persuaded that there, no less than here, I shall +meet with good masters and friends. But to the multitude this is +incredible If, however, I have succeeded better with you in my defense +than I did with the Athenian judges, it is well." + +When Socrates had thus spoken, Cebes, taking up the discussion, said +"Socrates, all the rest appears to me to be said rightly, but what you +have said respecting the soul will occasion much incredulity in many +from the apprehension that when it is separated from the body it no +longer exists anywhere, but is destroyed and perishes on the very day in +which a man dies, and that immediately it is separated and goes out from +the body it is dispersed, and vanishes like breath or smoke, and is no +longer anywhere, since if it remained anywhere united in itself, and +freed from those evils which you have just now enumerated, there would +be an abundant and good hope, Socrates, that what you say is true 40. +But this probably needs no little persuasion and proof, that the soul of +a man who dies exists, and possesses activity and intelligence." + +"You say truly, Cebes," said Socrates, "but what shall we do? Are you +willing that we should converse on these points, whether such is +probably the case or not?" + +"Indeed," replied Cebes, "I should gladly hear your opinion on these +matters." + +"I do not think," said Socrates, "that any one who should now hear us, +even though he were a comic poet, would say that I am talking idly, or +discoursing on subjects that do not concern me. If you please, then, we +will examine into it. Let us consider it in this point of view, whether +the souls of men who are dead exist in Hades, or not. This is an ancient +saying, which we now call to mind, that souls departing hence exist +there, and return hither again, and are produced from the dead. 41. And +if this is so, that the living are produced again from the dead, can +there be any other consequence than that our souls are there? for surely +they could not be produced again if they did not exist; and this would +be sufficient proof that these things are so, if it should in reality be +evident that the living are produced from no other source than the dead. +But if this is not the case, there will be need of other arguments." + +"Certainly," said Cebes. + +"You must not, then," he continued, "consider this only with respect to +men, if you wish to ascertain it with greater certainty, but also with +respect to all animals and plants, and, in a word, with respect to every +thing that is subject to generation. Let us see whether they are not all +so produced, no otherwise than contraries from contraries, wherever they +have any such quality; as, for instance, the honorable is contrary to +the base, and the just to the unjust, and so with ten thousand other +things. 42. Let us consider this, then, whether it is necessary that all +things which have a contrary should be produced from nothing else than +their contrary. As, for instance, when any thing becomes greater, is it +not necessary that, from being previously smaller, it afterward became +greater?" + +"Yes." + +"And if it becomes smaller, will it not, from being previously greater, +afterward become smaller?" + +"It is so," he replied. + +"And from stronger, weaker? and from slower, swifter?" + +"Certainly." + +"What, then? If any thing becomes worse, must it not become so from +better? and if more just, from more unjust?" + +"How should it not?" + +"We have then," he said, "sufficiently determined this, that all things +are thus produced, contraries from contraries?" + +"Certainly." + +"What next? Is there also something of this kind in them; for instance, +between all two contraries a mutual twofold production, from one to the +other, and from that other back again? for between a greater thing and a +smaller there are increase and decrease, and do we not accordingly call +the one to increase, the other to decrease?" + +"Yes," he replied. + +43. "And must not to be separated and commingled, to grow cold and to +grow warm, and every thing in the same manner, even though sometimes we +have not names to designate them, yet in fact be everywhere thus +circumstanced, of necessity, as to be produced from each other, and be +subject to a reciprocal generation?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +"What, then?" said Socrates, "has life any contrary, as waking has its +contrary, sleeping?" + +"Certainly," he answered. + +"What?" + +"Death," he replied. + +"Are not these, then, produced from each other, since they are +contraries; and are not the modes by which they are produced two-fold +intervening between these two?" + +"How should it be otherwise?" + +"I then," continued Socrates, "will describe to you one pair of the +contraries which I have just now mentioned, both what it is and its mode +of production: and do you describe to me the other. I say that one is to +sleep, the other to awake; and from sleeping awaking is produced, and +from awaking sleeping, and that the modes of their production are, the +one to fall asleep, the other to be roused. 44. Have I sufficiently +explained this to you or not?" + +"Certainly." + +"Do you, then," he said, "describe to me in the same manner with respect +to life and death? Do you not say that life is contrary to death?" + +"I do." + +"And that they are produced from each other?" + +"Yes." + +"What, then, is produced from life?" + +"Death," he replied. + +"What, then," said he "is produced from death?" + +"I must needs confess," he replied, "that life is." + +"From the dead, then, O Cebes! living things and living men are +produced." + +"It appears so," he said. + +"Our souls, therefore," said Socrates, "exist in Hades." + +"So it seems." + +"With respect, then, to their mode of production, is not one of them +very clear? for to die surely is clear, is it not?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +"What, then, shall we do?" he continued; "shall we not find a +corresponding contrary mode of production, or will nature be defective +in this? Or must we discover a contrary mode of production to dying?" + +"By all means," he said. + +"What is this?" + +"To revive." + +"Therefore," he proceeded, "if there is such a thing as to revive, will +not this reviving be a mode of production from the dead to the living?" + +"Certainly." + +"Thus, then, we have agreed that the living are produced from the dead, +no less than the dead from the living; but, this being the case, there +appears to me sufficient proof that the souls of the dead must +necessarily exist somewhere, from whence they are again produced." + +45. "It appears to me, Socrates," he said "that this must necessarily +follow from what has been admitted." + +"See now, O Cebes!" he said, "that we have not agreed on these things +improperly, as it appears to me; for if one class of things were not +constantly given back in the place of another, revolving, as it were, in +a circle, but generation were direct from one thing alone into its +opposite, and did not turn round again to the other, or retrace its +course, do you know that all things would at length have the same form, +be in the same state, and cease to be produced?" + +"How say you?" he asked. + +"It is by no means difficult," he replied, "to understand what I mean; +if, for instance, there should be such a thing as falling asleep, but no +reciprocal waking again produced from a state of sleep, you know that at +length all things would show the fable of Endymion to be a jest, and it +would be thought nothing at all of, because everything else would be in +the same state as he--namely, asleep. And if all things were mingled +together, but never separated, that doctrine of Anaxagoras would soon be +verified, 'all things would be together.' 46. Likewise, my dear Cebes, +if all things that partake of life should die, and after they are dead +should remain in this state of death, and not revive again, would it not +necessarily follow that at length all things should be dead, and nothing +alive? For if living beings are produced from other things, and living +beings die, what could prevent their being all absorbed in death?" + +"Nothing whatever, I think, Socrates," replied Cebes; "but you appear to +me to speak the exact truth." + +"For, Cebes," he continued, "as it seems to me, such undoubtedly is the +case, and we have not admitted these things under a delusion, for it is +in reality true that there is a reviving again, that the living are +produced from the dead, that the souls of the dead exist, and that the +condition of the good is better, and of the evil worse." + +47. "And, indeed," said Cebes, interrupting him, "according to that +doctrine, Socrates, which you are frequently in the habit of advancing, +if it is true, that our learning is nothing else than reminiscence, +according to this it is surely necessary that we must at some former +time have learned what we now remember. But this is impossible, unless +our soul existed somewhere before it came into this human form; so that +from hence, also, the soul appears to be something immortal." + +"But, Cebes," said Simmias, interrupting him, "what proofs are there of +these things? Remind me of them, for I do not very well remember them at +present." + +48. "It is proved," said Cebes, "by one argument, and that a most +beautiful one, that men, when questioned (if one questions them +properly) of themselves, describe all things as they are, however, if +they had not innate knowledge and right reason, they would never be +able to do this. Moreover, if one leads them to diagrams, or any thing +else of the kind, it is then most clearly apparent that this is the +case." + +"But if you are not persuaded in this way, Simmias," said Socrates, "see +if you will agree with us in considering the matter thus. For do you +doubt how that which is called learning is reminiscence?" + +"I do not doubt," said Simmias; "but I require this very thing of which +we are speaking, to be reminded; and, indeed, from what Cebes has begun +to say, I almost now remember, and am persuaded; nevertheless, however, +I should like to hear now how you would attempt to prove it." + +"I do it thus" he replied: "we admit, surely, that if any one be +reminded of any thing, he must needs have known that thing at some time +or other before." + +"Certainly," he said. + +49. "Do we, then, admit this also, that when knowledge comes in a +certain manner it is reminiscence? But the manner I mean is this: if any +one, upon seeing or hearing, or perceiving through the medium of any +other sense, some particular thing, should not only know that, but also +form an idea of something else, of which the knowledge is not the same, +but different, should we not justly say that he remembered that of which +he received the idea?" + +"How mean you?" + +"For instance, the knowledge of a man is different from that of a lyre." + +"How not?" + +"Do you not know, then, that lovers when they see a lyre, or a garment, +or any thing else which their favorite is accustomed to use, are thus +affected; they both recognize the lyre, and receive in their minds the +form of the person to whom the lyre belonged? This is reminiscence: just +as any one, seeing Simmias, is often reminded of Cebes, and so in an +infinite number of similar instances." + +"An infinite number, indeed, by Jupiter!" said Simmias. + +"Is not, then," he said, "something of this sort a kind of reminiscence, +especially when one is thus affected with respect to things which, from +lapse of time, and not thinking of them, one has now forgotten?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +50. "But what?" he continued. "Does it happen that when one sees a +painted horse or a painted lyre one is reminded of a man, and that when +one sees a picture of Simmias one is reminded of Cebes?" + +"Certainly." + +"And does it not also happen that on seeing a picture of Simmias one is +reminded of Simmias himself?" + +"It does, indeed," he replied. + +"Does it not happen, then, according to all this, that reminiscence +arises partly from things like, and partly from things unlike?" + +"It does." + +"But when one is reminded by things like, is it not necessary that one +should be thus further affected, so as to perceive whether, as regards +likeness, this falls short or not of the thing of which one has been +reminded?" + +"It is necessary," he replied. + +"Consider, then," said Socrates, "if the case is thus. Do we allow that +there is such a thing as equality? I do not mean of one log with +another, nor one stone with another, nor any thing else of this kind, +but something altogether different from all these--abstract equality; do +we allow that there is any such thing, or not?" + +"By Jupiter! we most assuredly do allow it," replied Simmias. + +51. "And do we know what it is itself?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +"Whence have we derived the knowledge of it? Is it not from the things +we have just now mentioned, and that from seeing logs, or stones, or +other things of the kind, equal, we have from these formed an idea of +that which is different from these--for does it not appear to you to be +different? Consider the matter thus. Do not stones that are equal, and +logs sometimes that are the same, appear at one time equal, and at +another not?" + +"Certainly." + +"But what? Does abstract equality ever appear to you unequal? or +equality inequality?" + +"Never, Socrates, at any time." + +"These equal things, then," he said, "and abstract equality, are not the +same?" + +"By no means, Socrates, as it appears." + +"However, from these equal things," he said, "which are different from +that abstract equality, have you not formed your idea and derived your +knowledge of it?" + +"You speak most truly," he replied. + +"Is it not, therefore, from its being like or unlike them?" + +"Certainly." + +"But it makes no difference," he said. "When, therefore, on seeing one +thing, you form, from the sight of it, the notion of another, whether +like or unlike, this," he said, "must necessarily be reminiscence." + +"Certainly." + +52. "What, then, as to this?" he continued. "Are we affected in any such +way with regard to logs and the equal things we have just now spoken of? +And do they appear to us to be equal in the same manner as abstract +equality itself is, or do they fall short in some degree, or not at +all, of being such as equality itself is?" + +"They fall far short," he replied. + +"Do we admit, then, that when one, on beholding some particular thing, +perceives that it aims, as that which I now see, at being like something +else that exists, but falls short of it, and can not become such as that +is, but is inferior to it--do we admit that he who perceives this must +necessarily have had a previous knowledge of that which he says it +resembles, though imperfectly?" + +"It is necessary." + +"What, then? Are we affected in some such way, or not, with respect to +things equal and abstract equality itself?" + +"Assuredly." + +"It is necessary, therefore, that we must have known abstract equality +before the time when, on first seeing equal things, we perceived that +they all aimed at resembling equality, but failed in doing so." + +"Such is the case." + +53. "Moreover, we admit this too, that we perceived this, and could not +possibly perceive it by any other means than the sight, or touch, or +some other of the senses, for I say the same of them all." + +"For they are the same, Socrates, so far as, our argument is concerned." + +"However, we must perceive, by means of the senses, that all things +which come under the senses aim at that abstract equality, and yet fall +short of it; or how shall we say it is?" + +"Even so." + +"Before, then, we began to see, and hear, and use our other senses, we +must have had a knowledge of equality itself--what it is, if we were to +refer to it those equal things that come under the senses, and observe +that all such things aim at resembling that, but fall far short of it." + +"This necessarily follows, Socrates, from what has been already said." + +"But did we not, as soon as we were born, see and hear, and possess our +other senses?" + +"Certainly." + +"But, we have said, before we possessed these, we must have had a +knowledge of abstract equality?" + +"Yes." + +"We must have had it, then, as it seems, before we were born." + +"It seems so." + +54. "If, therefore, having this before we were born, we were born +possessing it, we knew, both before we were born and as soon as we were +born, not only the equal and the greater and smaller, but all things of +the kind; for our present discussion is not more respecting equality +than the beautiful itself, the good, the just, and the holy, and, in one +word, respecting every thing which we mark with the seal of existence, +both in the questions we ask and the answers we give. So that we must +necessarily have had a knowledge of all these before we were born." + +"Such is the case." + +"And if, having once had it, we did not constantly forget it, we should +always be born with this knowledge, and should always retain it through +life. For to know is this, when one has got a knowledge of any thing, to +retain and not lose it; for do we not call this oblivion, Simmias, the +loss of knowledge?" + +"Assuredly, Socrates," he replied. + +55. "But if, having had it before we were born, we lose it at our +birth, and afterward, through exercising the senses about these things, +we recover the knowledge which we once before possessed, would not that +which we call learning be a recovery of our own knowledge? And in saying +that this is to remember, should we not say rightly?" + +"Certainly." + +"For this appeared to be possible, for one having perceived any thing, +either by seeing or hearing, or employing any other sense, to form an +idea of something different from this, which he had forgotten, and with +which this was connected by being unlike or like. So that, as I said, +one of these two things must follow: either we are all born with this +knowledge, and we retain it through life, or those whom we say learn +afterward do nothing else than remember, and this learning will be +reminiscence." + +"Such, certainly, is the case, Socrates." + +56. "Which, then, do you choose, Simmias: that we are born with +knowledge, or that we afterward remember what we had formerly known?" + +"At present, Socrates, I am unable to choose." + +"But what? Are you able to choose in this case, and what do you think +about it? Can a man who possesses knowledge give a reason for the things +that he knows, or not?" + +"He needs must be able to do so, Socrates," he replied. + +"And do all men appear to you to be able to give a reason for the things +of which we have just now been speaking?" + +"I wish they could," said Simmias; "but I am much more afraid that at +this time to-morrow there will no longer be any one able to do this +properly." + +"Do not all men, then, Simmias," he said, "seem to you to know these +things?" + +"By no means." + +"Do they remember, then, what they once learned?" + +"Necessarily so." + +"When did our souls receive this knowledge? Not surely, since we were +born into the world." + +"Assuredly not." + +"Before, then?" + +"Yes." + +"Our souls, therefore, Simmias, existed before they were in a human +form, separate from bodies, and possessed intelligence." + +57. "Unless, Socrates, we receive this knowledge at our birth, for this +period yet remains." + +"Be it so, my friend. But at what other time do we lose it? for we are +not born with it, as we have just now admitted. Do we lose it, then, at +the very time in which we receive it? Or can you mention any other +time?" + +"By no means, Socrates; I was not aware that I was saying nothing to the +purpose." + +"Does the case then stand thus with us, Simmias?" he proceeded: "If +those things which we are continually talking about really exist, the +beautiful, the good, and every such essence, and to this we refer all +things that come under the senses, as finding it to have a prior +existence, and to be our own, and if we compare these things to it, it +necessarily follows, that as these exist, so likewise our soul exists +even before we are born; but if these do not exist, this discussion will +have been undertaken in vain, is it not so? And is there not an equal +necessity both that these things should exist, and our souls also, +before we are born; and if not the former, neither the latter?" + +58. "Most assuredly, Socrates," said Simmias, "there appears to me to be +the same necessity; and the argument admirably tends to prove that our +souls exist before we are born, just as that essence does which you have +now mentioned. For I hold nothing so clear to me as this, that all such +things most certainly exist, as the beautiful, the good, and all the +rest that you just now spoke of; and, so far as I am concerned, the case +is sufficiently demonstrated." + +"But how does it appear to Cebes?" said Socrates; "for it is necessary +to persuade Cebes too." + +"He is sufficiently persuaded, I think," said Simmias, "although he is +the most pertinacious of men in distrusting arguments. Yet I think he is +sufficiently persuaded of this, that our soul existed before we were +born. But whether, when we are dead, it will still exist does not appear +to me to have been demonstrated, Socrates," he continued; "but that +popular doubt, which Cebes just now mentioned, still stands in our way, +whether, when a man dies, the soul is not dispersed, and this is the end +of its existence. 59. For what hinders it being born, and formed from +some other source, and existing before it came into a human body, and +yet, when it has come, and is separated from this body, its then also +dying itself, and being destroyed?" + +"You say well, Simmias," said Cebes; "for it appears that only one half +of what is necessary has been demonstrated--namely, that our soul +existed before we were born; but it is necessary to demonstrate further, +that when we are dead it will exist no less than before we were born, if +the demonstration is to be made complete." + +"This has been even now demonstrated, Simmias and Cebes," said Socrates, +"if you will only connect this last argument with that which we before +assented to, that every thing living is produced from that which is +dead. For if the soul exists before, and it is necessary for it when it +enters into life, and is born, to be produced from nothing else than +death, and from being dead, how is it not necessary for it also to +exist after death, since it must needs be produced again? 60. What you +require, then, has been already demonstrated. However, both you and +Simmias appear to me as if you wished to sift this argument more +thoroughly, and to be afraid, like children, lest, on the soul's +departure from the body, the winds should blow it away and disperse it, +especially if one should happen to die, not in a calm, but in a violent +storm." + +Upon this Cebes, smiling, said, "Endeavor to teach us better, Socrates, +as if we were afraid, or rather not as if we were afraid, though perhaps +there is some boy[30] within us who has such a dread. Let us, then, +endeavor to persuade him not to be afraid of death, as of hobgoblins." + +"But you must charm him every day," said Socrates, "until you have +quieted his fears." + +"But whence, Socrates," he said, "can we procure a skillful charmer for +such a case, now that you are about to leave us?" + +61. "Greece is wide, Cebes," he replied, "and in it surely there are +skillful men. There are also many barbarous nations, all of which you +should search through, seeking such a charmer, sparing neither money nor +toil, as there is nothing on which you can more seasonably spend your +money. You should also seek for him among yourselves; for perhaps you +could not easily find any more competent than yourselves to do this." + +"This shall be done," said Cebes; "but, if it is agreeable to you, let +us return to the point from whence we digressed." + +"It will be agreeable to me, for how should it not?" + +"You say well," rejoined Cebes. + +"We ought, then," said Socrates, "to ask ourselves some such question +as this: to what kind of thing it appertains to be thus +affected--namely, to be dispersed--and for what we ought to fear, lest +it should be so affected, and for what not. And after this we should +consider which of the two the soul is, and in the result should either +be confident or fearful for our soul." + +"You speak truly," said he. + +62. "Does it not, then, appertain to that which is formed by +composition, and is naturally compounded, to be thus affected, to be +dissolved in the same manner as that in which it was compounded; and if +there is any thing not compounded, does it not appertain to this alone, +if to any thing, not to be thus affected?" + +"It appears to me to be so," said Cebes. + +"Is it not most probable, then, that things which are always the same, +and in the same state, are uncompounded, but that things which are +constantly changing, and are never in the same state, are compounded?" + +"To me it appears so." + +"Let us return, then," he said, "to the subjects on which we before +discoursed. Whether is essence itself, of which we gave this account +that it exists, both in our questions and answers, always the same, or +does it sometimes change? Does equality itself, the beautiful itself, +and each several thing which is, ever undergo any change, however small? +Or does each of them which exists, being an unmixed essence by itself, +continue always the same, and in the same state, and never undergo any +variation at all under any circumstances?" + +"They must of necessity continue the same and in the same state, +Socrates," said Cebes. + +63. "But what shall we say of the many beautiful things, such as men, +horses, garments, or other things of the kind, whether equal or +beautiful, or of all things synonymous with them? Do they continue the +same, or, quite contrary to the former, are they never at any time, so +to say, the same, either with respect to themselves or one another?" + +"These, on the other hand," replied Cebes, "never continue the same." + +"These, then, you can touch, or see, or perceive by the other senses; +but those that continue the same, you can not apprehend in any other way +than by the exercise of thought; for such things are invisible, and are +not seen?" + +"You say what is strictly true," replied Cebes. + +64. "We may assume, then, if you please," he continued, "that there are +two species of things; the one visible, the other invisible?" + +"We may," he said. + +"And the invisible always continuing the same, but the visible never the +same?" + +"This, too," he said, "we may assume." + +"Come, then," he asked, "is there anything else belonging to us than, on +the one hand, body, and, on the other, soul?" + +"Nothing else," he replied. + +"To which species, then, shall we say the body is more like, and more +nearly allied?" + +"It is clear to everyone," he said, "that it is to the visible." + +"But what of the soul? Is it visible or invisible?" + +"It is not visible to men, Socrates," he replied. + +"But we speak of things which are visible, or not so, to the nature of +men; or to some other nature, think you?" + +"To that of men." + +"What, then, shall we say of the soul--that it is visible, or not +visible?" + +"Not visible." + +"Is it, then, invisible?" + +"Yes." + +"The soul, then, is more like the invisible than the body; and the body, +the visible?" + +"It must needs be so, Socrates." + +65. "And did we not, some time since, say this too, that the soul, when +it employs the body to examine any thing, either by means of the sight +or hearing, or any other sense (for to examine any thing by means of the +body is to do so by the senses), is then drawn by the body to things +that never continue the same, and wanders and is confused, and reels as +if intoxicated, through coming into contact with things of this kind?" + +"Certainly." + +"But when it examines anything by itself, does it approach that which is +pure, eternal, immortal, and unchangeable, and, as being allied to it, +continue constantly with it, so long as it subsists by itself, and has +the power, and does it cease from its wandering, and constantly continue +the same with respect to those things, through coming into contact with +things of this kind? And is this affection of the soul called wisdom?" + +"You speak," he said, "in every respect, well and truly, Socrates." + +"To which species of the two, then, both from what was before and now +said, does the soul appear to you to be more like and more nearly +allied?" + +66. "Every one, I think, would allow, Socrates," he replied, "even the +dullest person, from this method of reasoning, that the soul is in every +respect more like that which continues constantly the same than that +which does not so." + +"But what as to the body?" + +"It is more like the other." + +"Consider it also thus, that, when soul and body are together, nature +enjoins the latter to be subservient and obey, the former to rule and +exercise dominion. And, in this way, which of the two appears to you to +be like the divine, and which the mortal? Does it not appear to you to +be natural that the divine should rule and command, but the mortal obey +and be subservient?" + +"To me it does so." + +"Which, then, does the soul resemble?" + +"It is clear, Socrates, that the soul resembles the divine; but the +body, the mortal." + +"Consider, then, Cebes," said he, "whether, from all that has been said, +these conclusions follow, that the soul is most like that which is +divine, immortal, intelligent, uniform, indissoluble, and which always +continues in the same state; but that the body, on the other hand, is +most like that which is human, mortal, unintelligent, multiform, +dissoluble, and which never continues in the same state. Can we say any +thing against this, my dear Cebes, to show that it is not so?" + +"We can not." + +67. "What, then? Since these things are so, does it not appertain to the +body to be quickly dissolved, but to the soul, on the contrary, to be +altogether indissoluble or nearly so?" + +"How not?" + +"You perceive, however," he said, "that when a man dies, the visible +part of him, the body, which is exposed to sight, and which we call a +corpse, to which it appertains to be dissolved, to fall asunder and be +dispersed, does not immediately undergo any of these affections, but +remains for a considerable time, and especially so if any one should die +with his body in full vigor, and at a corresponding age;[31] for when +the body has collapsed and been embalmed, as those that are embalmed in +Egypt, it remains almost entire for an incredible length of time; and +some parts of the body, even though it does decay, such as the bones and +nerves, and every thing of that kind, are, nevertheless, as one may say, +immortal. Is it not so?" + +"Yes." + +68. "Can the soul, then, which is invisible, and which goes to another +place like itself, excellent, pure and invisible, and therefore truly +called the invisible world,[32] to the presence of a good and wise God +(whither, if God will, my soul also must shortly go)--can this soul of +ours, I ask, being such and of such a nature, when separated from the +body, be immediately dispersed and destroyed, as most men assert? Far +from it, my dear Cebes and Simmias. But the case is much rather thus: if +it is separated in a pure state, taking nothing of the body with it, as +not having willingly communicated with it in the present life, but +having shunned it, and gathered itself within itself, as constantly +studying this (but this is nothing else than to pursue philosophy +aright, and in reality to study how to die easily), would not this be to +study how to die?" + +"Most assuredly." + +"Does not the soul, then, when in this state, depart to that which +resembles itself, the invisible, the divine, immortal and wise? And on +its arrival there, is it not its lot to be happy, free from error, +ignorance, fears, wild passions, and all the other evils to which human +nature is subject; and, as is said of the initiated, does it not in +truth pass the rest of its time with the gods? Must we affirm that it is +so, Cebes, or otherwise?" + +"So, by Jupiter!" said Cebes. + +69. "But, I think, if it departs from the body polluted and impure, as +having constantly held communion with the body, and having served and +loved it, and been bewitched by it, through desires and pleasures, so as +to think that there is nothing real except what is corporeal, which one +can touch and see, and drink and eat, and employ for sensual purposes; +but what is dark and invisible to the eyes, which is intellectual and +apprehended by philosophy, having been accustomed to hate, fear, and +shun this, do you think that a soul thus affected can depart from the +body by itself, and uncontaminated?" + +"By no means whatever," he replied. + +"But I think it will be impressed with that which is corporeal, which +the intercourse and communion of the body, through constant association +and great attention, have made natural to it." + +"Certainly." + +"We must think, my dear Cebes, that this is ponderous and heavy, earthly +and visible, by possessing which such a soul is weighed down, and drawn +again into the visible world through dread of the invisible and of +Hades, wandering, as it is said, among monuments and tombs, about which, +indeed, certain shadowy phantoms of souls have been seen, being such +images as those souls produced which have not departed pure from the +body, but which partake of the visible; on which account, also, they are +visible." + +"That is probable, Socrates." + +70. "Probable indeed, Cebes; and not that these are the souls of the +good, but of the wicked, which are compelled to wander about such +places, paying the penalty of their former conduct, which was evil; and +they wander about so long until, through the desire of the corporeal +nature that accompanies them, they are again united to a body; and they +are united, as is probable, to animals having the same habits as those +they have given themselves up to during life." + +"But what do you say these are, Socrates?" + +"For instance, those who have given themselves up to gluttony, +wantonness and drinking, and have put no restraint on themselves, will +probably be clothed in the form of asses and brutes of that kind. Do you +not think so?" + +"You say what is very probable." + +"And that such as have set great value on injustice, tyranny and rapine, +will be clothed in the species of wolves, hawks and kites! Where else +can we say such souls go?" + +"Without doubt," said Cebes, "into such as these." + +"Is it not, then, evident," he continued, "as to the rest, whither each +will go, according to the resemblances of their several pursuits?" + +71. "It is evident," he replied. "How not?" + +"Of these, then," he said, "are not they the most happy, and do they not +go to the best place, who have practiced that social and civilized +virtue which they call temperance and justice, and which is produced +from habit and exercise, without philosophy and reflection?" + +"In what respect are these the most happy?" + +"Because it is probable that these should again migrate into a +corresponding civilized and peaceable kind of animals, such as bees +perhaps, or wasps, or ants, or even into the same human species again, +and from these become moderate men." + +"It is probable." + +"But it is not lawful for any one who has not studied philosophy, and +departed this life perfectly pure, to pass into the rank of gods, but +only for the true lover of wisdom. And on this account, my friends +Simmias and Cebes, those who philosophize rightly, abstain from all +bodily desires, and persevere in doing so, and do not give themselves up +to them, not fearing the loss of property and poverty, as the generality +of men and the lovers of wealth; nor, again, dreading disgrace and +ignominy, like those who are lovers of power and honor, do they then +abstain from them." + +"For it would not become them to do so, Socrates," says Cebes. + +72. "It would not, by Jupiter!" he rejoined. "Wherefore, Cebes, they who +care at all for their soul, and do not spend their lives in the culture +of their bodies, despising all these, proceed not in the same way with +them, as being ignorant whither they are going, but, being convinced +that they ought not to act contrary to philosophy, but in accordance +with the freedom and purification she affords, they give themselves up +to her direction, following her wherever she leads." + +"How, Socrates?" + +"I will tell you," he replied. "The lovers of wisdom know that +philosophy, receiving their soul plainly bound and glued to the body, +and compelled to view things through this, as through a prison, and not +directly by herself, and sunk in utter ignorance, and perceiving, too, +the strength of the prison, that it arises from desire, so that he who +is bound as much as possible assists in binding himself. 73. I say, +then, the lovers of wisdom know that philosophy, receiving their soul in +this state, gently exhorts it, and endeavors to free it, by showing that +the view of things by means of the eyes is full of deception, as also is +that through the ears and the other senses; persuading an abandonment +of these so far as it is not absolutely necessary to use them, and +advising the soul to be collected and concentrated within itself, and to +believe nothing else than herself, with respect to what she herself +understands of things that have a real subsistence; and to consider +nothing true which she views through the medium of others, and which +differ under different aspects;[32] for that a thing of this kind is +sensible and visible, but that what she herself perceives is +intelligible and invisible. The soul of the true philosopher, therefore, +thinking that she ought not to oppose this deliverance, accordingly +abstains as much as possible from pleasures and desires, griefs and +fears, considering that when any one is exceedingly delighted or +alarmed, grieved or influenced by desire, he does not merely suffer such +evil from these things as one might suppose, such as either being sick +or wasting his property through indulging his desires; but that which is +the greatest evil, and the worst of all, this he suffers, and is not +conscious of it." + +"But what is this evil, Socrates?" said Cebes. + +74. "That the soul of every man is compelled to be either vehemently +delighted or grieved about some particular thing, and, at the same time, +to consider that the thing about which it is thus strongly affected is +most real and most true, though it is not so. But these are chiefly +visible objects, are they not?" + +"Certainly." + +"In this state of affection, then, is not the soul especially shackled +by the body?" + +"How so?" + +"Because each pleasure and pain, having a nail, as it were, nails the +soul to the body, and fastens it to it, and causes it to become +corporeal, deeming those things to be true whatever the body asserts to +be so. For, in consequence of its forming the same opinions with the +body, and delighting in the same things, it is compelled, I think, to +possess similar manners, and to be similarly nourished; so that it can +never pass into Hades in a pure state, but must ever depart polluted by +the body, and so quickly falls again into another body, and grows up as +if it were sown, and consequently is deprived of all association with +that which is divine, and pure, and uniform." + +"You speak most truly, Socrates," said Cebes. + +75. "For these reasons, therefore, Cebes, those who are truly lovers of +wisdom are moderate and resolute, and not for the reasons that most +people say. Do you think as they do?" + +"Assuredly not." + +"No, truly. But the soul of a philosopher would reason thus, and would +not think that philosophy ought to set it free, and that when it is +freed it should give itself up again to pleasures and pains, to bind it +down again, and make her work void, weaving a kind of Penelope's web the +reverse way. On the contrary, effecting a calm of the passions, and +following the guidance of reason, and being always intent on this, +contemplating that which is true and divine, and not subject to opinion; +and being nourished by it, it thinks that it ought to live in this +manner as long as it does live, and that when it dies it shall go to a +kindred essence, and one like itself, and shall be free from human +evils. From such a regimen as this the soul has no occasion to fear, +Simmias and Cebes, while it strictly attends to these things, lest, +being torn to pieces at its departure from the body, it should be blown +about and dissipated by the winds, and no longer have an existence +anywhere." + +76. When Socrates had thus spoken, a long silence ensued; and Socrates +himself was pondering upon what had been said, as he appeared, and so +did most of us; but Cebes and Simmias were conversing a little while +with each other. At length Socrates, perceiving them, said, "What think +you of what has been said? Does it appear to you to have been proved +sufficiently? for many doubts and objections still remain if any one +will examine them thoroughly. If, then, you are considering some other +subject, I have nothing to say; but if you are doubting about this, do +not hesitate both yourselves to speak and express your opinion, if it +appears to you in any respect that it might have been argued better, and +to call me in again to your assistance, if you think you can be at all +benefited by my help." + +Upon this Simmias said, "Indeed, Socrates, I will tell you the truth: +for some time each of us, being in doubt, has been urging and exhorting +the other to question you, from a desire to hear our doubts solved; but +we were afraid of giving you trouble, lest it should be disagreeable to +you in your present circumstances." + +77. But he, upon hearing this, gently smiled, and said, "Bless me, +Simmias; with difficulty, indeed, could I persuade other men that I do +not consider my present condition a calamity, since I am not able to +persuade even you; but you are afraid lest I should be more morose now +than during the former part of my life. And, as it seems, I appear to +you to be inferior to swans with respect to divination, who, when they +perceive that they must needs die, though they have been used to sing +before, sing then more than ever, rejoicing that they are about to +depart to that deity whose servants they are. But men, through their +own fear of death, belie the swans too, and say that they, lamenting +their death, sing their last song through grief; and they do not +consider that no bird sings when it is hungry or cold, or is afflicted +with any other pain, not even the nightingale, or swallow, or the +hoopoes, which, they say, sing lamenting through grief. But neither do +these birds appear to me to sing through sorrow, nor yet do swans; but, +in my opinion, belonging to Apollo, they are prophetic, and, foreseeing +the blessings of Hades, they sing and rejoice on that day more +excellently than at any preceding time. 78. But I, too, consider myself +to be a fellow-servant of the swans, and sacred to the same god; and +that I have received the power of divination from our common master no +less than they, and that I do not depart from this life with less +spirits than they. On this account, therefore, it is right that you +should both speak and ask whatever you please, so long as the Athenian +Eleven permit." + +"You say well," said Simmias, "and both I will tell you what are my +doubts, and he, in turn, how far he does not assent to what has been +said. For it appears to me, Socrates, probably as it does to you with +respect to these matters, that to know them clearly in the present life +is either impossible or very difficult: on the other hand, however, not +to test what has been said of them in every possible way, so as not to +desist until, on examining them in every point of view, one has +exhausted every effort, is the part of a very weak man. For we ought, +with respect to these things, either to learn from others how they stand +or to discover them for one's self; or, if both these are impossible, +then, taking the best of human reasonings and that which is the most +difficult to be confuted, and embarking on this, as one who risks +himself on a raft, so to sail through life, unless one could be carried +more safely, and with less risk, on a surer conveyance, or some divine +reason. 79. I, therefore, shall not now be ashamed to question you, +since you bid me do so, nor shall I blame myself hereafter for not +having now told you what I think; for to me, Socrates, when I consider +the matter, both with myself and with Cebes, what has been said does not +appear to have been sufficiently proved." + +Then said Socrates, "Perhaps, my friend, you have the truth on your +side; but tell me in what respect it was not sufficiently proved." + +"In this," he answered, "because any one might use the same argument +with respect to harmony, and a lyre, and its chords, that harmony is +something invisible and incorporeal, very beautiful and divine, in a +well-modulated lyre; but the lyre and its chords are bodies, and of +corporeal form, compounded and earthly, and akin to that which is +mortal. When any one, then, has either broken the lyre, or cut or burst +the chords, he might maintain from the same reasoning as yours that it +is necessary the harmony should still exist and not be destroyed; for +there could be no possibility that the lyre should subsist any longer +when the chords are burst; and that the chords, which are of a mortal +nature, should subsist, but that the harmony, which is of the same +nature and akin to that which is divine and immortal, should become +extinct, and perish before that which is mortal; but he might say that +the harmony must needs subsist somewhere, and that the wood and chords +must decay before it can undergo any change. 80. For I think, Socrates, +that you yourself have arrived at this conclusion, that we consider the +soul to be pretty much of this kind--namely, that our body being +compacted and held together by heat and cold, dryness and moisture, and +other such qualities, our soul is the fusion and harmony of these, when +they are well and duly combined with each other. If, then, the soul is a +kind of harmony, it is evident that when our bodies are unduly relaxed +or strained, through diseases and other maladies, the soul must, of +necessity, immediately perish, although it is most divine, just as other +harmonies which subsist in sounds or in the various works of artisans; +but that the remains of the body of each person last for a long time, +till they are either burned or decayed. Consider, then, what we shall +say to this reasoning, if any one should maintain that the soul, being a +fusion of the several qualities in the body, perishes first in that +which is called death." + +81. Socrates, therefore, looking steadfastly at us, as he was generally +accustomed to do, and smiling, said, "Simmias indeed speaks justly. If, +then, any one of you is more prompt than I am, why does he not answer, +for he seems to have handled my argument not badly? It appears to me, +however, that before we make our reply we should first hear from Cebes, +what he, too, objects to our argument, in order that, some time +intervening, we may consider what we shall say, and then when we have +heard them, we may give up to them, if they appear to speak agreeably to +truth; or, if not, we may then uphold our own argument. Come, then, +Cebes," he continued, "say what it is that disturbs you, so as to cause +your unbelief." + +"I will tell you," said Cebes; "the argument seems to me to rest where +it was, and to be liable to the same objection that we mentioned before. +For, that our soul existed even before It came into this present form, I +do not deny has been very elegantly, and, if it is not too much to say +so, very fully, demonstrated; but that it still exists anywhere when we +are dead does not appear to me to have been clearly proved; nor do I +give in to the objection of Simmias, that the soul is not stronger and +more durable than the body, for it appears to me to excel very far all +things of this kind. 82. 'Why, then,' reason might say, 'do you still +disbelieve? for, since you see that when a man dies his weaker part +still exists, does it not appear to you to be necessary that the more +durable part should still be preserved during this period?' Consider, +then, whether I say any thing to the purpose in reply to this. For I, +too, as well as Simmias, as it seems, stand in need of an illustration; +for the argument appears to me to have been put thus, as if any one +should advance this argument about an aged weaver who had died, that the +man has not yet perished, but perhaps still exists somewhere; and, as a +proof, should exhibit the garment which he wore and had woven himself, +that it is entire and has not perished; and if any one should disbelieve +him, he would ask, which of the two is the more durable, the species of +a man or of a garment, that is constantly in use and being worn; then, +should any one answer that the species of man is much more durable, he +would think it demonstrated that, beyond all question, the man is +preserved, since that which is less durable has not perished. 83. But I +do not think, Simmias, that this is the case, and do you consider what I +say, for every one must think that he who argues thus argues, foolishly. +For this weaver, having worn and woven many such garments, perished +after almost all of them, but before the last, I suppose; and yet it +does not on this account follow any the more that a man is inferior to +or weaker than a garment. And I think, the soul might admit this same +illustration with respect to the body, and he who should say the same +things concerning them would appear to me to speak correctly, that the +soul is more durable, but the body weaker and less durable; for he would +say that each soul wears out many bodies, especially if it lives many +years; for if the body wastes and is dissolved while the man still +lives, but the soul continually weaves anew what is worn out, it must +necessarily follow that when the soul is dissolved it must then have on +its last garment, and perish before this alone; but when the soul has +perished the body would show the weakness of its nature, and quickly rot +and vanish. 84. So that it is not by any means right to place implicit +reliance on this argument, and to believe that when we die our soul +still exists somewhere. For, if any one should concede to him who admits +even more than you do, and should grant to him that not only did our +soul exist before we were born, but that even when we die nothing +hinders the souls of some of us from still existing, and continuing to +exist hereafter, and from being often born, and dying again--for so +strong is it by nature, that it can hold out against repeated births--if +he granted this, he would not yet concede that it does not exhaust +itself in its many births, and at length perish altogether in some one +of the deaths. But he would say that no one knows this death and +dissolution of the body, which brings destruction to the soul; for it is +impossible for any one of us to perceive it. If, however, this be the +case, it follows that every one who is confident at the approach of +death is foolishly confident, unless he is able to prove that the soul +is absolutely immortal and imperishable; otherwise it necessarily +follows that he who is about to die must be alarmed for his soul, lest +in its present disunion from the body it should entirely perish." + +85. Upon this, all of us who had heard them speaking were disagreeably +affected, as we afterward mentioned to each other; because, after we had +been fully persuaded by the former arguments, they seemed to disturb us +anew, and to cast us into a distrust, not only of the arguments already +adduced, but of such as might afterward be urged, for fear lest we +should not be fit judges of anything, or lest the things themselves +should be incredible. + +_Echec._ By the gods! Phædo, I can readily excuse you; for, while I am +now hearing you, it occurs to me to ask myself some such question as +this: What arguments can we any longer believe? since the argument which +Socrates advanced, and which was exceedingly credible, has now fallen +into discredit. For this argument, that our soul is a kind of harmony, +produces a wonderful impression on me, both now and always, and in being +mentioned, it has reminded me, as it were, that I, too, was formerly of +the same opinion; so that I stand in need again, as if from the very +beginning, of some other argument which may persuade me that the soul of +one who dies does not die with the body. Tell me, therefore, by Jupiter! +how Socrates followed up the argument; and whether he, too, as you +confess was the case with yourselves, seemed disconcerted at all, or +not, but calmly maintained his position; and maintained it sufficiently +or defectively. Relate everything to me as accurately as you can. + +86. _Phæd._ Indeed, Echecrates, though I have often admired Socrates, I +was never more delighted than at being with him on that occasion. That +he should be able to say something is perhaps not at all surprising; but +I especially admired this in him--first of all, that he listened to the +argument of the young men so sweetly, affably, and approvingly; in the +next place, that he so quickly perceived how we were affected by their +arguments; and, lastly, that he cured us so well and recalled us, when +we were put to flight, as it were, and vanquished, and encouraged us to +accompany him, and consider the argument with him. + +_Echec._ How was that? + +_Phæd._ I will tell you: I happened to be sitting at his right hand, +near the bed, upon a low seat, but he himself sat much higher than I. +Stroking my head, then, and laying hold of the hair that hung on my +neck--for he used, often, to play with my hairs--"To-morrow," he said, +"perhaps, Phædo, you will cut off these beautiful locks?" + +"It seems likely, Socrates," said I. + +87. "Not if you are persuaded by me." + +"Why so?" I asked. + +"To-day," he replied, "both I ought to cut off mine and you yours, if +our argument must die, and we are unable to revive it. And I, if I were +you, and the arguments were to escape me, would take an oath, as the +Argives do, not to suffer my hair to grow until I had renewed the +contest, and vanquished the arguments of Simmias and Cebes." + +"But," I said, "even Hercules himself is said not to have been a match +for two." + +"Call upon me, then," he said, "as your Iolaus, while it is yet day." + +"I do call on you, then," I said, "not as Hercules upon Iolaus, but as +Iolaus upon Hercules." + +"It will make no difference," he replied. "But, first of all, we must +beware lest we meet with some mischance." + +"What?" I asked. + +"That we do not become," he answered, "haters of reasoning, as some +become haters of men; for no greater evil can happen to any one than to +hate reasoning. 88. But hatred of reasoning and hatred of mankind both +spring from the same source. For hatred of mankind is produced in us +from having placed too great reliance on some one without sufficient +knowledge of him, and from having considered him to be a man altogether +true, sincere, and faithful, and then, after a little while, finding him +depraved and unfaithful, and after him another. And when a man has +often experienced this, and especially from those whom he considered his +most intimate and best friends, at length, having frequently stumbled, +he hates all men, and thinks that there is no soundness at all in any of +them. Have you not perceived that this happens so?" + +"Certainly," I replied. + +"Is it not a shame?" he said "And is it not evident that such a one +attempts to deal with men without sufficient knowledge of human affairs? +For if he had dealt with them with competent knowledge, as the case +really is, so he would have considered that the good and the bad are +each very few in number, and that those between both are most numerous." + +89. "How say you?" I asked. + +"In the same manner," he replied, "as with things very little and very +large Do you think that any thing is more rare than to find a very large +on a very little man, or dog, or any thing else? and, again, swift or +slow, beautiful or ugly, white or black? Do you not perceive that of all +such things the extremes are rare and few, but that the intermediate are +abundant and numerous?" + +"Certainly," I replied. + +"Do you not think, then," he continued, "that if a contest in wickedness +were proposed, even here very few would be found pre-eminent?" + +"It is probable," I said. + +"It is so," he said, "but in this respect reasonings do not resemble +men, for I was just now following you as my leader, but in this they do +resemble them, when any one believes in any argument as true without +being skilled in the art of reasoning, and then shortly afterward it +appears to him to be false, at one time being so and at another time +not, and so on with one after another,[34] and especially they who +devote themselves to controversial arguments, you are aware, at length +think they have become very wise and have alone discovered that there is +nothing sound and stable either in things or reasonings but that all +things that exist, as is the case with the Euripus, are in a constant +state of flux and reflux, and never continue in any one condition for +any length of time." + +"You speak perfectly true," I said. + +90. "Would it not, then, Phædo" he said "be a sad thing if, when there +is a true and sound reasoning, and such as one can understand, one +should then, through lighting upon such arguments as appear to be at one +time true and at another false, not blame one's self and one's own want +of skill, but at length, through grief, should anxiously transfer the +blame from one's self to the arguments, and thereupon pass the rest of +one's life in hating and reviling arguments and so be depraved of the +truth and knowledge of things that exist?" + +"By Jupiter!" I said, "it would be sad, indeed." + +"In the first place, then," he said, "let us beware of this, and let us +not admit into our souls the notion that there appears to be nothing +sound in reasoning, but much rather that we are not yet in a sound +condition, and that we ought vigorously and strenuously to endeavor to +become sound, you and the others, on account of your whole future life, +but I, on account of my death, since I am in danger, at the present +time, of not behaving as becomes a philosopher with respect to this very +subject, but as a wrangler, like those who are utterly uninformed 91. +For they, when they dispute about any thing, care nothing at all for the +subject about which the discussion is, but are anxious about this, that +what they have themselves advanced shall appear true to the persons +present. And I seem to myself on the present occasion to differ from +them only in this respect, for I shall not be anxious to make what I say +appear true to those who are present, except that may happen by the way, +but that it may appear certainly to be so to myself. For I thus reason, +my dear friend, and observe how interestedly. If what I say be true, it +is well to be persuaded of it, but if nothing remains to one that is +dead, I shall, at least, during the interval before death be less +disagreeable to those present by my lamentations. But this ignorance of +mine will not continue long, for that would be bad, but will shortly be +put an end to. Thus prepared, then, Simmias and Cebes," he continued, "I +now proceed to my argument. Do you, however, if you will be persuaded by +me, pay little attention to Socrates, but much more to the truth, and if +I appear to you to say any thing true, assent to it, but if not, oppose +me with all your might, taking good care that in my zeal I do not +deceive both myself and you, and, like a bee, depart leaving my sting +behind." + +92. "But let us proceed," he said "First of all, remind me of what you +said, if I should appear to have forgotten it For Simmias, as I think, +is in doubt, and fears lest the soul, though more divine and beautiful +than the body, should perish before it, as being a species of harmony. +But Cebes appeared to me to grant me this, that the soul is more durable +than the body, but he argued that it is uncertain to every one, whether +when the soul has worn out many bodies and that repeatedly, it does +not, on leaving the last body, itself also perish, so that this very +thing is death, the destruction of the soul, since the body never ceases +decaying Are not these the things, Simmias and Cebes, which we have to +inquire into?" + +They both agreed that they were. + +"Whether, then," he continued "do you reject all our former arguments, +or some of them only, and not others?" + +"Some we do," they replied, "and others not." + +"What, then," he proceeded, "do you say about that argument in which we +asserted that knowledge is reminiscence, and that, this being the case, +our soul must necessarily have existed somewhere before it was inclosed +in the body?" + +93. "I, indeed," replied Cebes "was both then wonderfully persuaded by +it, and now persist in it, as in no other argument." + +"And I, too," said Simmias, "am of the same mind, and should very much +wonder if I should ever think otherwise on that point." + +"Then," Socrates said, "you must needs think otherwise, my Theban +friend, if this opinion holds good, that harmony is something +compounded, and that the soul is a kind of harmony that results from the +parts compacted together in the body. For surely you will not allow +yourself to say that harmony was composed prior to the things from which +it required to be composed Would you allow this?" + +"By no means, Socrates" he replied. + +"Do you perceive, then," he said, "that this result from what you say, +when you assert that the soul existed before it came into a human form +and body, but that it was composed from things that did not yet exist? +For harmony is not such as that to which you compare it, but first the +lyre, and the chords, and the sounds yet unharmonized, exist, and, last +of all, harmony is produced, and first perishes. How, then, will this +argument accord with that?" + +"Not at all," said Simmias. + +94. "And yet," he said, "if in any argument, there ought to be an +accordance in one respecting harmony." + +"There ought," said Simmias. + +"This of yours, however," he said, "is not in accordance. Consider, +then, which of these two statements do you prefer--that knowledge is +reminiscence, or the soul harmony?" + +"The former by far, Socrates," he replied; "for the latter occurred to +me without demonstration, through a certain probability and speciousness +whence most men derive their opinions. But I am well aware that +arguments which draw their demonstrations from probabilities are idle; +and, unless one is on one's guard against them, they are very deceptive, +both in geometry and all other subjects. But the argument respecting +reminiscence and knowledge may be said to have been demonstrated by a +satisfactory hypothesis. For in this way it was said that our soul +existed before it came into the body, because the essence that bears the +appellation of 'that which is' belongs to it. But of this, as I persuade +myself, I am fully and rightly convinced. It is therefore necessary, as +it seems, that I should neither allow myself nor any one else to +maintain that the soul is harmony." + +95. "But what, Simmias," said he, "if you consider it thus? Does it +appear to you to appertain to harmony, or to any other composition, to +subsist in any other way than the very things do of which it is +composed?" + +"By no means." + +"And indeed, as I think, neither to do any thing, nor suffer any thing +else, besides what they do or suffer." + +He agreed. + +"It does not, therefore, appertain to harmony to take the lead of the +things of which it is composed, but to follow them." + +He assented. + +"It is, then, far from being the case that harmony is moved or sends +forth sounds contrariwise, or is in any other respect opposed to its +parts?" + +"Far, indeed," he said. + +"What, then? Is not every harmony naturally harmony, so far as it has +been made to accord?" + +"I do not understand you," he replied. + +"Whether," he said, "if it should be in a greater degree and more fully +made to accord, supposing that were possible, would the harmony be +greater and more full; but if in a less degree and less fully, then +would it be inferior and less full?" + +"Certainly." + +"Is this, then, the case with the soul that, even in the smallest +extent, one soul is more fully and in a greater degree, or less fully +and in a less degree, this very thing, a soul, than another?" + +"In no respect whatever," he replied. + +96. "Well, then," he said, "by Jupiter! is one soul said to possess +intelligence and virtue, and to be good, and another folly and vice, and +to be bad? and is this said with truth?" + +"With truth, certainly." + +"Of those, then, who maintain that the soul is harmony, what will any +one say that these things are in the soul, virtue and vice? Will he call +them another kind of harmony and discord, and say that the one, the good +soul, is harmonized, and, being harmony, contains within itself another +harmony, but that the other is discordant, and does not contain within +itself another harmony?" + +"I am unable to say," replied Simmias; "but it is clear that he who +maintains that opinion would say something of the kind." + +"But it has been already granted," said he, "that one soul is not more +or less a soul than another; and this is an admission that one harmony +is not to a greater degree or more fully, or to a less degree or less +fully, a harmony, than another; is it not so?" + +"Certainly." + +"And that that which is neither more or less harmony is neither more nor +less harmonized: is it so?" + +"It is." + +"But does that which is neither more or less harmonized partake of more +or less harmony, or an equal amount?" + +"An equal amount." + +97. "A soul, therefore, since it is not more or less this very thing, a +soul, than another, is not more or less harmonized?" + +"Even so." + +"Such, then, being its condition, it can not partake of a greater degree +of discord or harmony?" + +"Certainly not." + +"And, again, such being its condition, can one soul partake of a greater +degree of vice or virtue than another, if vice be discord, and virtue +harmony?" + +"It can not." + +"Or rather, surely, Simmias, according to right reason, no soul will +partake of vice, if it is harmony; for doubtless harmony, which is +perfectly such, can never partake of discord?" + +"Certainly not." + +"Neither, therefore, can a soul which is perfectly a soul partake of +vice." + +"How can it, from what has been already said?" + +"From this reasoning, then, all souls of all animals will be equally +good, if, at least, they are by nature equally this very thing, souls?" + +"It appears so to me, Socrates," he said. + +"And does it appear to you," he said, "to have been thus rightly argued, +and that the argument would lead to this result, if the hypothesis were +correct, that the soul is harmony?" + +98. "On no account whatever," he replied. + +"But what," said he, "of all the things that are in man? Is there any +thing else that you say bears rule except the soul, especially if it be +wise?" + +"I should say not." + +"Whether by yielding to the passions in the body, or by opposing them? +My meaning is this: for instance, when heat and thirst are present, by +drawing it the contrary way, so as to hinder it from drinking; and when +hunger is present, by hindering it from eating; and in ten thousand +other instances we see the soul opposing the desires of the body. Do we +not?" + +"Certainly." + +"But have we not before allowed that if the soul were harmony, it would +never utter a sound contrary to the tension, relaxation, vibration, or +any other affection to which its component parts are subject, but would +follow, and never govern them?" + +"We did allow it," he replied, "for how could we do otherwise?" + +"What, then? Does not the soul now appear to act quite the contrary, +ruling over all the parts from which any one might say it subsists, and +resisting almost all of them through the whole of life, and exercising +dominion over them in all manner of ways; punishing some more severely +even with pain, both by gymnastics and medicine, and others more mildly; +partly threatening, and partly admonishing the desires, angers and +fears, as if, being itself of a different nature, it were conversing +with something quite different? 99. Just as Homer has done in the +Odyssey,[35] where he speaks of Ulysses--'Having struck his breast, he +chid his heart in the following words: Bear up, my heart; ere this thou +hast borne far worse.' Do you think that he composed this in the belief +that the soul was harmony, and capable of being led by the passions of +the body, and not rather that it was able to lead and govern them, as +being something much more divine than to be compared with harmony?" + +"By Jupiter! Socrates, it appears so to me." + +"Therefore, my excellent friend, it is on no account correct for us to +say that the soul is a kind of harmony; for, as it appears, we should +neither agree with Homer, that divine poet, nor with ourselves." + +"Such is the case," he replied. + +"Be it so, then," said Socrates, "we have already, as it seems, +sufficiently appeased this Theban harmony. But how, Cebes, and by what +arguments, shall we appease this Cadmus?"[36] + +100. "You appear to me," replied Cebes, "to be likely to find out; for +you have made out this argument against harmony wonderfully beyond my +expectation. For when Simmias was saying what his doubts were, I +wondered very much whether any one would be able to answer his +reasoning. It, therefore, appeared to me unaccountable that he did not +withstand the very first onset of your argument. I should not, +therefore, be surprised if the arguments of Cadmus met with the same +fate." + +"My good friend," said Socrates, "do not speak so boastfully, lest some +envious power should overthrow the argument that is about to be urged. +These things, however, will be cared for by the deity; but let us, +meeting hand to hand, in the manner of Homer, try whether you say any +thing to the purpose. This, then, is the sum of what you inquire you +require it to be proved that our soul is imperishable and immortal; if a +philosopher that is about to die, full of confidence and hope that after +death he shall be far happier than if he had died after leading a +different kind of life, shall not entertain this confidence foolishly +and vainly. 101. But to show that the soul is something strong and +divine, and that it existed before we men were born, you say not at all +hinders, but that all these things may evince, not its immortality, but +that the soul is durable, and existed an immense space of time before, +and knew and did many things. But that, for all this, it was not at all +the more immortal, but that its very entrance into the body of a man was +the beginning of its destruction, as if it were a disease; so that it +passes through this life in wretchedness, and at last perishes in that +which is called death. But you say that it is of no consequence whether +it comes into a body once or often, with respect to our occasion of +fear; for it is right he should be afraid, unless he is foolish, who +does not know, and can not give a reason to prove, that the soul is +immortal. Such, I think, Cebes, is the sum of what you say; and I +purposely repeat it often, that nothing may escape us, and, if you +please, you may add to or take from it." + +Cebes replied, "I do not wish at present either to take from or add to +it; that is what I mean." + +102. Socrates, then having paused for some time, and considered +something within himself, said, "You inquire into no easy matter, Cebes; +for it is absolutely necessary to discuss the whole question of +generation and corruption. If you please, then, I will relate to you +what happened to me with reference to them; and afterward, if any thing +that I shall say shall appear to you useful toward producing conviction +on the subject you are now treating of, make use of it." + +"I do indeed wish it," replied Cebes. + +"Hear my relation, then. When I was a young man, Cebes, I was +wonderfully desirous of that wisdom which they call a history of nature; +for it appeared to me to be a very sublime thing to know the causes of +every thing--why each thing is generated, why it perishes, and why it +exists. And I often tossed myself upward and downward, considering first +such things as these, whether when heat and cold have undergone a +certain corruption, as some say, then animals are formed; and whether +the blood is that by means of which we think, or air, or fire, or none +of these, but that it is the brain that produces the perceptions of +hearing, seeing, and smelling; and that from these come memory and +opinion; and from memory and opinion, when in a state of rest, in the +same way knowledge is produced. 103. And, again, considering the +corruptions of these, and the affections incidental to the heavens and +the earth, I at length appeared to myself so unskillful in these +speculations that nothing could be more so. But I will give you a +sufficient proof of this; for I then became, by these very speculations, +so very blind with respect to things which I knew clearly before, as it +appeared to myself and others, that I unlearned even the things which I +thought I knew before, both on many other subjects and also this, why a +man grows. For, before, I thought this was evident to every one--that it +proceeds from eating and drinking; for that, when, from the food, flesh +is added to flesh, bone to bone, and so on in the same proportion, what +is proper to them is added to the several other parts, then the bulk +which was small becomes afterward large, and thus that a little man +becomes a big one. Such was my opinion at that time. Does it appear to +you correct?" + +"To me it does," said Cebes. + +104. "Consider this further. I thought that I had formed a right +opinion, when, on seeing a tall man standing by a short one, I judged +that he was taller by the head, and in like manner, one horse than +another; and, still more clearly than this, ten appeared to me to be +more than eight by two being added to them, and that two cubits are +greater than one cubit by exceeding it a half." + +"But now," said Cebes, "what think you of these matters?" + +"By Jupiter!" said he, "I am far from thinking that I know the cause of +these, for that I can not even persuade myself of this: when a person +has added one to one, whether the one to which the addition has been +made has become two, or whether that which has been added, and that to +which the addition has been made, have become two by the addition of the +one to the other. For I wonder if, when each of these was separate from +the other, each was one, and they were not yet two; but when they have +approached nearer each other this should be the cause of their becoming +two--namely, the union by which they have been placed nearer one +another. 105. Nor yet, if any person should divide one, am I able to +persuade myself that this, their division, is the cause of its becoming +two. For this cause is the contrary to the former one of their becoming +two; for then it was because they were brought nearer to each other, and +the one was added to the other; but now it is because one is removed and +separated from the other. Nor do I yet persuade myself that I know why +one is one, nor, in a word, why any thing else is produced, or perishes, +or exists, according to this method of proceeding; but I mix up another +method of my own at random, for this I can on no account give in to." + +"But, having once heard a person reading from a book, written, as he +said, by Anaxagoras, and which said that it is intelligence that sets in +order and is the cause of all things, I was delighted with this cause, +and it appeared to me in a manner to be well that intelligence should be +the cause of all things, and I considered with myself, if this is so, +that the regulating intelligence orders all things, and disposes each in +such way as will be best for it. 106. If any one, then, should desire to +discover the cause of every thing, in what way it is produced, or +perishes, or exists, he must discover this respecting it--in what way it +is best for it either to exist, or to suffer, or do any thing else. From +this mode of reasoning, then, it is proper that a man should consider +nothing else, both with respect to himself and others, than what is most +excellent and best; and it necessarily follows that this same person +must also know that which is worst, for that the knowledge of both of +them is the same. Thus reasoning with myself, I was delighted to think I +had found in Anaxagoras a preceptor who would instruct me in the causes +of things, agreeably to my own mind, and that he would inform me, first, +whether the earth is flat or round, and, when he had informed me, +would, moreover, explain the cause and necessity of its being so, +arguing on the principle of the better, and showing that it is better +for it to be such as it is; and if he should say that it is in the +middle, that he would, moreover, explain how it is better for it to be +in the middle; and if he should make all this clear to me, I was +prepared no longer to require any other species of cause. 107. I was in +like manner prepared to inquire respecting the sun and moon and the +other stars, with respect to their velocities in reference to each +other, and their revolutions and other conditions, in what way it is +better for both to act and be affected as it does and is. For I never +thought that after he had said that these things were set in order by +intelligence, he would introduce any other cause for them than that it +is best for them to be as they are. Hence, I thought, that in assigning +the cause to each of them, and to all in common, he would explain that +which is best for each, and the common good of all. And I would not have +given up my hopes for a good deal; but, having taken up his books with +great eagerness, I read through them as quickly as I could, that I might +as soon as possible know the best and the worst." + +108. "From this wonderful hope, however, my friend, I was speedily +thrown down, when, as I advance and read over his works, I meet with a +man who makes no use of intelligence, nor assigns any causes for the +ordering of all things, but makes the causes to consist of air, ether, +and water, and many other things equally absurd. And he appeared to me +to be very like one who should say that whatever Socrates does he does +by intelligence, and then, attempting to describe the causes of each +particular action, should say, first of all, that for this reason I am +now sitting here, because my body is composed of bones and sinews and +that the bones are hard, and have joints separate from each other, but +that the sinews, being capable of tension and contraction, cover the +bones, together with the flesh and skin which contain them. The bones, +therefore, being suspended in their sockets, the nerves, relaxing and +tightening, enable me to bend my limbs as I now do, and from this cause +I sit here bent up. 109. And if, again, he should assign other similar +causes for my conversing with you, assigning as causes voice, and air, +and hearing, and ten thousand other things of the kind, omitting to +mention the real causes, that since it appeared better to the Athenians +to condemn me, I therefore thought it better to sit here, and more just +to remain and submit to the punishment which they have ordered; for, by +the dog! I think these sinews and bones would have been long ago either +in Megara or Boeotia, borne thither by an opinion of that which is best, +if I had not thought it more just and honorable to submit to whatever +sentence the city might order than to flee and run stealthily away. But +to call such things causes is too absurd. But if any one should say that +without possessing such things as bones and sinews, and whatever else I +have, I could not do what I pleased, he would speak the truth; but to +say that I do as I do through them, and that I act thus by intelligence, +and not from the choice of what is best, would be a great and extreme +disregard of reason. 110. For this would be not to be able to +distinguish that the real cause is one thing, and that another, without +which a cause could not be a cause; which, indeed, the generality of men +appear to me to do, fumbling, as it were, in the dark, and making use of +strange names, so as to denominate them as the very cause. Wherefore one +encompassing the earth with a vortex from heaven makes the earth remain +fixed; but another, as if it were a broad trough, rests it upon the air +as its base; but the power by which these things are now so disposed +that they may be placed in the best manner possible, this they neither +inquire into, nor do they think that it requires any superhuman +strength; but they think they will some time or other find out an Atlas +stronger and more immortal than this, and more capable of containing all +things; and in reality, the good, and that which ought to hold them +together and contain them, they take no account of at all. I, then, +should most gladly have become the disciple of any one who would teach +me of such a cause, in what way it is. But when I was disappointed of +this, and was neither able to discover it myself, nor to learn it from +another, do you wish, Cebes, that I should show you in what way I set +out upon a second voyage in search of the cause?" + +111. "I wish it exceedingly," he replied. + +"It appeared to me, then," said he, "after this, when I was wearied with +considering things that exist, that I ought to beware lest I should +suffer in the same way as they do who look at and examine an eclipse of +the sun, for some lose the sight of their eyes, unless they behold its +image in water, or some similar medium. And I was affected with a +similar feeling, and was afraid lest I should be utterly blinded in my +soul through beholding things with the eyes, and endeavoring to grasp +them by means of the several senses. It seemed to me, therefore, that I +ought to have recourse to reasons, and to consider in them the truth of +things. Perhaps, however, this similitude of mine may in some respect be +incorrect; for I do not altogether admit that he who considers things in +their reasons considers them in their images, more than he does who +views them in their effects. However, I proceeded thus, and on each +occasion laying down the reason, which I deem to be the strongest, +whatever things appear to me to accord with this I regard as true, both +with respect to the cause and every thing else; but such as do not +accord I regard as not true. 112. But I wish to explain my meaning to +you in a clearer manner; for I think that you do not yet understand me." + +"No, by Jupiter!" said Cebes, "not well." + +"However," continued he, "I am now saying nothing new, but what I have +always at other times, and in a former part of this discussion, never +ceased to say. I proceed, then, to attempt to explain to you that +species of cause which I have busied myself about, and return again to +those well-known subjects, and set out from them, laying down as an +hypothesis, that there is a certain abstract beauty, and goodness, and +magnitude, and so of all other things; which if you grant me, and allow +that they do exist, I hope that I shall be able from these to explain +the cause to you, and to discover that the soul is immortal." + +"But," said Cebes, "since I grant you this, you may draw your conclusion +at once." + +"But consider," he said, "what follows from thence, and see if you can +agree with me. For it appears to me that if there is any thing else +beautiful besides beauty itself, it is not beautiful for any other +reason than because it partakes of that abstract beauty; and I say the +same of every thing. Do you admit such a cause?" + +"I do admit it," he replied. + +113. "I do not yet understand," he continued, "nor am I able to +conceive, those other wise causes; but if any one should tell me why any +thing is beautiful, either because it has a blooming florid color, or +figure, or any thing else of the kind, I dismiss all other reasons, for +I am confounded by them all; but I simply, wholly, and perhaps +foolishly, confine myself to this, that nothing else causes it to be +beautiful except either the presence or communication of that abstract +beauty, by whatever means and in whatever way communicated; for I can +not yet affirm this with certainty, but only that by means of beauty all +beautiful things become beautiful. For this appears to me the safest +answer to give both to myself and others; and adhering to this, I think +that I shall never fall, but that it is a safe answer both for me and +any one else to give--that by means of beauty beautiful things become +beautiful. Does it not also seem so to you?" + +"It does." + +"And that by magnitude great things become great, and greater things, +greater; and by littleness less things become less?" + +"Yes." + +114. "You would not, then, approve of it, if any one said that one +person is greater than another by the head, and that the less is less by +the very same thing; but you would maintain that you mean nothing else +than that every thing that is greater than another is greater by nothing +else than magnitude, and that it is greater on this account--that is, on +account of magnitude; and that the less is less by nothing else than +littleness, and on this account less--that is, on account of littleness; +being afraid, I think, lest some opposite argument should meet you if +you should say that any one is greater and less by the head; as, first, +that the greater is greater, and the less less, by the very same thing; +and, next, that the greater is greater by the head, which is small; and +that it is monstrous to suppose that any one is great through something +small. Should you not be afraid of this?" + +To which said Cebes, smilingly, "Indeed, I should." + +"Should you not, then," he continued, "be afraid to say that ten is more +than eight by two, and for this cause exceeds it, and not by number, +and on account of number? and that two cubits are greater than one cubit +by half, and not by magnitude (for the fear is surely the same)?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +115. "What, then? When one has been added to one, would you not beware +of saying that the addition is the cause of its being two, or division +when it has been divided; and would you not loudly assert that you know +no other way in which each thing subsists, than by partaking of the +peculiar essence of each of which it partakes, and that in these cases +you can assign no other cause of its becoming two than its partaking of +duality; and that such things as are to become two must needs partake of +this, and what is to become one, of unity; but these divisions and +additions, and other such subtleties, you would dismiss, leaving them to +be given as answers by persons wiser than yourself; whereas you, +fearing, as it is said, your own shadow and inexperience, would adhere +to this safe hypothesis, and answer accordingly? But if any one should +assail this hypothesis of yours, would you not dismiss him, and refrain +from answering him till you had considered the consequences resulting +from it, whether in your opinion they agree with or differ from each +other? But when it should be necessary for you to give a reason for it, +would you give one in a similar way, by again laying down another +hypothesis, which should appear the best of higher principles, until you +arrived at something satisfactory; but, at the same time, you would +avoid making confusion, as disputants do, in treating of the first +principle and the results arising from it, if you really desire to +arrive at the truth of things? 116. For they, perhaps, make no account +at all of this, nor pay any attention to it; for they are able, through +their wisdom, to mingle all things together, and at the same time please +themselves. But you, if you are a philosopher, would act, I think, as I +now describe." + +"You speak most truly," said Simmias and Cebes together. + +_Echec._ By Jupiter! Phædo, they said so with good reason; for he +appears to me to have explained these things with wonderful clearness, +even to one endued with a small degree of intelligence. + +_Phæd._ Certainly, Echecrates, and so it appeared to all who were +present. + +_Echec._ And so it appears to me, who was absent, and now hear it +related. But what was said after this? + +As well as I remember, when these things had been granted him, and it +was allowed that each several idea exists of itself,[37] and that other +things partaking of them receive their denomination from them, he next +asked: "If, then," he said, "you admit that things are so, whether, when +you say that Simmias is greater than Socrates, but less than Phædo, do +you not then say that magnitude and littleness are both in Simmias?" + +"I do." + +117. "And yet," he said, "you must confess that Simmias's exceeding +Socrates is not actually true in the manner in which the words express +it; for Simmias does not naturally exceed Socrates in that he is +Simmias, but in consequence of the magnitude which he happens to have; +nor, again, does he exceed Socrates because Socrates is Socrates, but +because Socrates possesses littleness in comparison with his magnitude?" + +"True." + +"Nor, again, is Simmias exceeded by Phædo, because Phædo is Phædo, but +because Phædo possesses magnitude in comparison with Simmias's +littleness?" + +"It is so." + +"Thus, then, Simmias has the appellation of being both little and great, +being between both, by exceeding the littleness of one through his own +magnitude, and to the other yielding a magnitude that exceeds his own +littleness." And at the same time, smiling, he said, "I seem to speak +with the precision of a short-hand writer; however, it is as I say." + +He allowed it. + +118. "But I say it for this reason, wishing you to be of the same +opinion as myself. For it appears to me, not only that magnitude itself +is never disposed to be at the same time great and little, but that +magnitude in us never admits the little nor is disposed to be exceeded, +but one of two things, either to flee and withdraw when its contrary, +the little, approaches it, or, when it has actually come, to perish; but +that it is not disposed, by sustaining and receiving littleness, to be +different from what it was. Just as I, having received and sustained +littleness, and still continuing the person that I am, am this same +little person; but that, while it is great, never endures to be little. +And, in like manner, the little that is in us is not disposed at any +time to become or to be great, nor is any thing else among contraries, +while it continues what it was, at the same time disposed to become and +to be its contrary; but in this contingency it either departs or +perishes." + +119. "It appears so to me," said Cebes, "in every respect." + +But some one of those present, on hearing this, I do not clearly +remember who he was, said, "By the gods! was not the very contrary of +what is now asserted admitted in the former part of our discussion, that +the greater is produced from the less, and the less from the greater, +and, in a word, that the very production of contraries is from +contraries? But now it appears to me to be asserted that this can never +be the case." + +Upon this Socrates, having leaned his head forward and listened, said, +"You have reminded me in a manly way; you do not, however, perceive the +difference between what is now and what was then asserted. For then it +was said that a contrary thing is produced from a contrary; but now, +that a contrary can never become contrary to itself--neither that which +is in us, nor that which is in nature. For then, my friend, we spoke of +things that have contraries, calling them by the appellation of those +things; but now we are speaking of those very things from the presence +of which things so called receive their appellation, and of these very +things we say that they are never disposed to admit of production from +each other." 120. And, at the same time looking at Cebes, "Has anything +that has been said, Cebes, disturbed you?" + +"Indeed," said Cebes, "I am not at all so disposed; however, I by no +means say that there are not many things that disturb me." + +"Then," he continued, "we have quite agreed to this, that a contrary can +never be contrary to itself." + +"Most certainly," he replied. + +"But, further," he said, "consider whether you will agree with me in +this also. Do you call heat and cold any thing?" + +"I do." + +"The same as snow and fire?" + +"By Jupiter! I do not." + +"But heat is something different from fire, and cold something different +from snow?" + +"Yes." + +"But this, I think, is apparent to you--that snow, while it is snow, can +never, when it has admitted heat, as we said before, continue to be what +it was, snow and hot; but, on the approach of heat, it must either +withdraw or perish?" + +"Certainly." + +"And, again, that fire, when cold approaches it, must either depart or +perish; but that it will never endure, when it has admitted coldness, to +continue what it was, fire and cold?" + +121. "You speak truly," he said. + +"It happens, then," he continued, "with respect to some of such things, +that not only is the idea itself always thought worthy of the same +appellation, but likewise something else which is not, indeed, that idea +itself, but constantly retains its form so long as it exists. What I +mean will perhaps be clearer in the following examples: the odd in +number must always possess the name by which we now call it, must it +not?" + +"Certainly." + +"Must it alone, of all things--for this I ask--or is there any thing +else which is not the same as the odd, but yet which we must always call +odd, together with its own name, because it is so constituted by nature +that it can never be without the odd? But this, I say, is the case with +the number three, and many others. For consider with respect to the +number three: does it not appear to you that it must always be called by +its own name, as well as by that of the odd, which is not the same as +the number three? Yet such is the nature of the number three, five, and +the entire half of number, that though they are not the same as the odd, +yet each of them is always odd. And, again, two and four, and the whole +other series of number, though not the same as the even, are +nevertheless each of them always even: do you admit this, or not?" + +122. "How should I not?" he replied. + +"Observe then," said he, "what I wish to prove. It is this--that it +appears not only that these contraries do not admit each other, but that +even such things as are not contrary to each other, and yet always +possess contraries, do not appear to admit that idea which is contrary +to the idea that exists in themselves, but, when it approaches, perish +or depart. Shall we not allow that the number three would first perish, +and suffer any thing whatever, rather than endure, while it is still +three, to become even?" + +"Most certainly," said Cebes. + +"And yet," said he, "the number two is not contrary to three." + +"Surely not." + +"Not only, then, do ideas that are contrary never allow the approach of +each other, but some other things also do not allow the approach of +contraries." + +"You say very truly," he replied. + +"Do you wish, then," he said, "that, if we are able, we should define +what these things are?" + +"Certainly." + +"Would they not then, Cebes," he said, "be such things as, whatever they +occupy, compel that thing not only to retain its own idea, but also that +of something which is always a contrary?" + +"How do you mean?" + +123. "As we just now said. For you know, surely, that whatever things +the idea of three occupies must of necessity not only be three, but also +odd?" + +"Certainly." + +"To such a thing, then, we assert, that the idea contrary to that form +which constitutes this can never come." + +"It can not." + +"But did the odd make it so?" + +"Yes." + +"And is the contrary to this the idea of the even?" + +"Yes." + +"The idea of the even, then, will never come to the three?" + +"No, surely." + +"Three, then, has no part in the even?" + +"None whatever." + +"The number three is uneven?" + +"Yes." + +"What, therefore, I said should be defined--namely, what things they are +which, though not contrary to some particular thing, yet do not admit of +the contrary itself; as, in the present instance, the number three, +though not contrary to the even, does not any the more admit it, for it +always brings the contrary with it, just as the number two does to the +odd, fire to cold, and many other particulars. Consider, then, whether +you would thus define, not only that a contrary does not admit a +contrary, but also that that which brings with it a contrary to that to +which it approaches will never admit the contrary of that which it +brings with it. 124. But call it to mind again, for it will not be +useless to hear it often repeated. Five will not admit the idea of the +even, nor ten, its double, that of the odd. This double, then, though it +is itself contrary to something else,[38] yet will not admit the idea of +the odd, nor will half as much again, nor other things of the kind, such +as the half and the third part, admit the idea of the whole, if you +follow me, and agree with me that it is so." + +"I entirely agree with you," he said, "and follow you." + +"Tell me again, then," he said, "from the beginning; and do not answer +me in the terms in which I put the question, but in different ones, +imitating my example. For I say this because, besides that safe mode of +answering which I mentioned at first,[39] from what has now been said, I +see another no less safe one. For if you should ask me what that is +which, if it be in the body, will cause it to be hot, I should not give +you that safe but unlearned answer, that it is heat, but one more +elegant, from what we have just now said, that it is fire; nor, if you +should ask me what that is which, if it be in the body, will cause it to +be diseased, should I say that it is disease, but fever; nor if you +should ask what that is which, if it be in number, will cause it to be +odd, should I say that it is unevenness, but unity; and so with other +things. But consider whether you sufficiently understand what I mean." + +125. "Perfectly so," he replied. + +"Answer me, then," he said, "what that is which, when it is in the body, +the body will be alive?" + +"Soul," he replied. + +"Is not this, then, always the case?" + +"How should it not be?" said he. + +"Does the soul, then, always bring life to whatever it occupies?" + +"It does indeed," he replied. + +"Whether, then, is there any thing contrary to life or not?" + +"There is," he replied. + +"What?" + +"Death." + +"The soul, then, will never admit the contrary of that which it brings +with it, as has been already allowed?" + +"Most assuredly," replied Cebes. + +"What, then? How do we denominate that which does not admit the idea of +the even?" + +"Uneven," he replied. + +"And that which does not admit the just, nor the musical?" + +"Unmusical," he said, "and unjust." + +"Be it so. But what do we call that which does not admit death?" + +"Immortal," he replied. + +"Therefore, does not the soul admit death?" + +"No." + +"Is the soul, then, immortal?" + +"Immortal." + +126. "Be it so," he said. "Shall we say, then, that this has been now +demonstrated? or how think you?" + +"Most completely, Socrates." + +"What, then," said he, "Cebes, if it were necessary for the uneven to be +imperishable, would the number three be otherwise than imperishable?" + +"How should it not?" + +"If, therefore, it were also necessary that what is without heat should +be imperishable, when any one should introduce heat to snow, would not +the snow withdraw itself, safe and unmelted? For it would not perish; +nor yet would it stay and admit the heat." + +"You say truly," he replied. + +"In like manner, I think, if that which is insusceptible of cold were +imperishable, that when any thing cold approached the fire, it would +neither be extinguished nor perish, but would depart quite safe." + +"Of necessity," he said. + +"Must we not, then, of necessity," he continued, "speak thus of that +which is immortal? if that which is immortal is imperishable, it is +impossible for the soul to perish, when death approaches it. For, from +what has been said already, it will not admit death, nor will ever be +dead; just as we said that three will never be even, nor, again, will +the odd; nor will fire be cold, nor yet the heat that is in fire. 127. +But some one may say, what hinders, though the odd can never become even +by the approach of the even, as we have allowed, yet, when the odd is +destroyed, that the even should succeed in its place? We could not +contend with him who should make this objection that it is not +destroyed, for the uneven is not imperishable; since, if this were +granted us, we might easily have contended that, on the approach of the +even, the odd and the three depart; and we might have contended in the +same way with respect to fire, heat, and the rest, might we not?" + +"Certainly." + +"Wherefore, with respect to the immortal, if we have allowed that it is +imperishable, the soul, in addition to its being immortal, must also be +imperishable; if not, there will be need of other arguments." + +"But there is no need," he said, "so far as that is concerned; for +scarcely could any thing not admit of corruption, if that which is +immortal and eternal is liable to it." + +128. "The deity, indeed, I think," said Socrates, "and the idea itself +of life, and if anything else is immortal, must be allowed by all beings +to be incapable of dissolution." + +"By Jupiter!" he replied, "by all men, indeed, and still more, as I +think, by the gods." + +"Since, then, that which is immortal is also incorruptible, can the +soul, since it is immortal, be any thing else than imperishable?" + +"It must, of necessity, be so." + +"When, therefore, death approaches a man, the mortal part of him, as it +appears, dies, but the immortal part departs safe and uncorrupted, +having withdrawn itself from death?" + +"It appears so." + +"The soul, therefore," he said, "Cebes, is most certainly immortal and +imperishable, and our souls will really exist in Hades." + +"Therefore, Socrates," he said, "I have nothing further to say against +this, nor any reason for doubting your arguments. But if Simmias here, +or any one else, has any thing to say, it were well for him not to be +silent; for I know not to what other opportunity beyond the present any +one can defer it, who wishes either to speak or hear about these +things." + +"But, indeed," said Simmias, "neither have I any reason to doubt what +has been urged; yet, from the magnitude of the subject discussed, and +from my low opinion of human weakness, I am compelled still to retain a +doubt within myself with respect to what has been said." + +"Not only so, Simmias," said Socrates, "but you say this well; and, +moreover, the first hypotheses, even though they are credible to you, +should nevertheless be examined more carefully; and if you should +investigate them sufficiently, I think you will follow my reasoning as +far as it is possible for man to do so; and if this very point becomes +clear, you will inquire no further." + +"You speak truly," he said. + +"But it is right, my friends," he said, "that we should consider this--- +that if the soul is immortal, it requires our care not only for the +present time, which we call life, but for all time; and the danger would +now appear to be dreadful if one should neglect it. 130. For if death +were a deliverance from every thing, it would be a great gain for the +wicked, when they die, to be delivered at the same time from the body, +and from their vices together with the soul; but now, since it appears +to be immortal, it can have no other refuge from evils, nor safety, +except by becoming as good and wise as possible. For the soul goes to +Hades possessing nothing else than its discipline and education, which +are said to be of the greatest advantage or detriment to the dead, on +the very beginning of his journey thither. For, thus, it is said that +each person's demon who was assigned to him while living, when he dies +conducts him to some place, where they that are assembled together must +receive sentence, and then proceed to Hades with that guide who has been +ordered to conduct them from hence thither. But there having received +their deserts, and having remained the appointed time, another guide +brings them back hither again, after many and long revolutions of time. +The journey, then, is not such as the Telephus of Æschylus describes it; +for he says that a simple path leads to Hades; but it appears to me to +be neither simple nor one, for there would be no need of guides, nor +could any one ever miss the way, if there were but one. But now it +appears to have many divisions and windings; and this I conjecture from +our religious and funeral rites.[40] 131. The well-ordered and wise +soul, then, both follows, and is not ignorant of its present condition; +but that which through passion clings to the body, as I said before, +having longingly fluttered about it for a long time, and about its +visible place,[41] after vehement resistance and great suffering, is +forcibly and with great difficulty led away by its appointed demon. And +when it arrives at the place where the others are, impure and having +done any such thing as the committal of unrighteous murders or other +similar actions, which are kindred to these, and are the deeds of +kindred souls, every one shuns it and turns away from it, and will be +neither its fellow-traveler nor guide; but it wanders about, oppressed +with every kind of helplessness, until certain periods have elapsed; and +when these are completed, it is carried, of necessity, to an abode +suitable to it. But the soul which has passed through life with purity +and moderation, having obtained the gods for its fellow-travelers and +guides, settles each in the place suited to it. 132. There are, indeed, +many and wonderful places in the earth, and it is itself neither of such +a kind nor of such a magnitude as is supposed by those who are +accustomed to speak of the earth, as I have been persuaded by a certain +person." + +Whereupon Simmias said, "How mean you, Socrates? For I, too, have heard +many things about the earth--not, however, those things which have +obtained your belief. I would, therefore, gladly hear them." + +"Indeed, Simmias, the art of Glaucus[42] does not seem to me to be +required to relate what these things are. That they are true, however, +appears to me more than the art of Glaucus can prove, and, besides, I +should probably not be able to do it; and even if I did know how, what +remains to me of life, Simmias, seems insufficient for the length of the +subject. However, the form of the earth, such as I am persuaded it is, +and the different places in it, nothing hinders me from telling." + +"But that will be enough," said Simmias. + +"I am persuaded, then," said he, "in the first place, that, if the earth +is in the middle of the heavens, and is of a spherical form, it has no +need of air, nor of any other similar force, to prevent it from falling; +but that the similarity of the heavens to themselves on every side, and +the equilibrium of the earth itself, are sufficient to support it; for a +thing in a state of equilibrium when placed in the middle of something +that presses it equally on all sides can not incline more or less on any +side, but, being equally affected all around, remains unmoved. 133. In +the first place, then," he said, "I am persuaded of this." + +"And very properly so," said Simmias. + +"Yet, further," said he, "that it is very large, and that we who inhabit +some small portion of it, from the river Phasis to the pillars of +Hercules, dwell about the sea, like ants or frogs about a marsh; and +that many others elsewhere dwell in many similar places, for that there +are everywhere about the earth many hollows of various forms and sizes +into which there is a confluence of water, mist and air; but that the +earth itself, being pure, is situated in the pure heavens, in which are +the stars, and which most persons who are accustomed to speak about such +things call ether; of which these things are the sediment, and are +continually flowing into the hollow parts of the earth. 134. That we are +ignorant, then, that we are dwelling in its hollows, and imagine that we +inhabit the upper parts of the earth, just as if any one dwelling in the +bottom of the sea should think that he dwelt on the sea, and, beholding +the sun and the other stars through the water, should imagine that the +sea was the heavens; but, through sloth and weakness, should never have +reached the surface of the sea; nor, having emerged and risen up from +the sea to this region, have seen how much more pure and more beautiful +it is than the place where he is, nor has heard of it from any one else +who has seen it. This, then, is the very condition in which we are; for, +dwelling in some hollow of the earth, we think that we dwell on the +surface of it, and call the air heaven, as if the stars moved through +this, being heaven itself. But this is because, by reason of our +weakness and sloth, we are unable to reach to the summit of the air. +Since, if any one could arrive at its summit, or, becoming winged, could +fly up thither, or, emerging from hence, he would see--just as with us, +fishes, emerging from the sea, behold what is here, so any one would +behold the things there; and if his nature were able to endure the +contemplation, he would know that that is the true heaven, and the true +light, and the true earth. 135. For this earth and these stones, and the +whole region here, are decayed and corroded, as things in the sea by the +saltness; for nothing of any value grows in the sea, nor, in a word, +does it contain any thing perfect; but there are caverns and sand, and +mud in abundance, and filth, in whatever parts of the sea there is +earth, nor are they at all worthy to be compared with the beautiful +things with us. But, on the other hand, those things in the upper +regions of the earth would appear far more to excel the things with us. +For, if we may tell a beautiful fable, it is well worth hearing, +Simmias, what kind the things are on the earth beneath the heavens." + +"Indeed, Socrates," said Simmias, "we should be very glad to hear that +fable." + +136. "First of all, then, my friend," he continued, "this earth, if any +one should survey it from above, is said to have the appearance of +balls covered with twelve different pieces of leather, variegated and +distinguished with colors, of which the colors found here, and which +painters use, are, as it were, copies. But there the whole earth is +composed of such, and far more brilliant and pure than these; for one +part of it is purple, and of wonderful beauty, part of a golden color, +and part of white, more white than chalk or snow, and, in like manner, +composed of other colors, and those more in number and more beautiful +than any we have ever beheld. And those very hollow parts of the earth, +though filled with water and air, exhibit a certain species of color, +shining among the variety of other colors, so that one continually +variegated aspect presents itself to the view. In this earth, being +such, all things that grow, grow in a manner proportioned to its +nature--trees, flowers and fruits; and, again, in like manner, its +mountains and stones possess, in the same proportion, smoothness and +transparency, and more beautiful colors; of which the well-known stones +here that are so highly prized are but fragments, such as +sardine-stones, jaspers, and emeralds, and all of that kind. But there, +there is nothing subsists that is not of this character, and even more +beautiful than these. 137. But the reason of this is, because the stones +there are pure, and not eaten up and decayed, like those here, by +rottenness and saltness, which flow down hither together, and which +produce deformity and disease in the stones and the earth, and in other +things, even animals and plants. But that earth is adorned with all +these, and, moreover, with gold and silver, and other things of the +kind: for they are naturally conspicuous, being numerous and large, and +in all parts of the earth; so that to behold it is a sight for the +blessed. There are also many other animals and men upon it, some +dwelling in mid-earth, others about the air, as we do about the sea, and +others in islands which the air flows round, and which are near the +continent; and, in one word, what water and the sea are to us, for our +necessities, the air is to them; and what air is to us, that ether is to +them. 138. But their seasons are of such a temperament that they are +free from disease, and live for a much longer time than those here, and +surpass us in sight, hearing, and smelling, and every thing of this +kind, as much as air excels water, and ether air, in purity. Moreover, +they have abodes and temples of the gods, in which gods really dwell, +and voices and oracles, and sensible visions of the gods, and such-like +intercourse with them; the sun, too, and moon, and stars, are seen by +them such as they really are, and their felicity in other respects is +correspondent with these things." + +"And, such, indeed, is the nature of the whole earth, and the parts +about the earth; but there are many places all round it throughout its +cavities, some deeper and more open than that in which we dwell; but +others that are deeper have a less chasm than our region, and others are +shallower in depth than it is here, and broader. 139. But all these are +in many places perforated one into another under the earth, some with +narrower and some with wider channels, and have passages through, by +which a great quantity of water flows from one into another, as into +basins, and there are immense bulks of ever-flowing rivers under the +earth, both of hot and cold water, and a great quantity of fire, and +mighty rivers of fire, and many of liquid mire, some purer, and some +more miry, as in Sicily there are rivers of mud that flow before the +lava, and the lava itself, and from these the several places are filled, +according as the overflow from time to time happens to come to each of +them. But all these move up and down, as it were, by a certain +oscillation existing in the earth. And this oscillation proceeds from +such natural cause as this; one of the chasms of the earth is +exceedingly large, and perforated through the entire earth, and is that +which Homer[43] speaks of, 'very far off, where is the most profound +abyss beneath the earth,' which elsewhere both he and many other poets +have called Tartarus. For into this chasm all rivers flow together, and +from it flow out again; but they severally derive their character from +the earth through which they flow. 140. And the reason why all streams +flow out from thence, and flow into it, is because this liquid has +neither bottom nor base. Therefore, it oscillates and fluctuates up and +down, and the air and the wind around it do the same; for they accompany +it both when it rushes to those parts of the earth, and when to these. +And as in respiration the flowing breath is continually breathed out and +drawn in, so there the wind oscillating with the liquid causes certain +vehement and irresistible winds both as it enters and goes out. When, +therefore, the water rushing in descends to the place which we call the +lower region, it flows through the earth into the streams there, and +fills them, just as men pump up water. But when again it leaves those +regions and rushes hither, it again fills the rivers here; and these, +when filled, flow through channels and through the earth, and, having +severally reached the several places to which they are journeying, they +make seas, lakes, rivers, and fountains. 141. Then, sinking again from +thence beneath the earth, some of them having gone round longer and more +numerous places, and others round fewer and shorter, they again +discharge themselves into Tartarus--some much lower than they were drawn +up, others only a little so; but all of them flow in again beneath the +point at which they flowed out. And some issue out directly opposite the +place by which they flow in, others on the same side. There are also +some which, having gone round altogether in a circle, folding themselves +once or several times round the earth, like serpents, when they have +descended as low as possible, discharge themselves again; and it is +possible for them to descend on either side as far as the middle, but +not beyond; for in each direction there is an acclivity to the streams +both ways." + +"Now, there are many other large and various streams; but among this +great number there are four certain streams, of which the largest, and +that which flows most outwardly round the earth, is called Ocean; but +directly opposite this, and flowing in a contrary direction, is Acheron, +which flows through other desert places, and, moreover, passing under +the earth, reaches the Acherusian lake, where the souls of most who die +arrive; and, having remained there for certain destined periods, some +longer and some shorter, are again sent forth into the generations of +animals. 142. A third river issues midway between these, and, near its +source, falls into a vast region, burning with abundance of fire, and +forms a lake larger than our sea, boiling with water and mud. From hence +it proceeds in a circle, turbulent and muddy, and, folding itself round +it, reaches both other places and the extremity of the Acherusian lake, +but does not mingle with its water; but, folding itself oftentimes +beneath the earth, it discharges itself into the lower parts of +Tartarus. And this is the river which they call Pyriphlegethon, whose +burning streams emit dissevered fragments in whatever part of the earth +they happen to be. Opposite to this, again, the fourth river first falls +into a place dreadful and savage, as it is said, having its whole color +like cyanus:[44] this they call Stygian, and the lake which the river +forms by its discharge, Styx. This river, having fallen in here, and +received awful power in the water, sinking beneath the earth, proceeds, +folding itself round, in an opposite course to Pyriphlegethon, and meets +it in the Acherusian lake from, a contrary direction. Neither does the +water of this river mingle with any other; but it, too, having gone +round in a circle, discharges itself into Tartarus, opposite to +Pyriphlegethon. Its name, as the poets say, is Cocytus." + +143. "These things being thus constituted, when the dead arrive at the +place to which their demon leads them severally, first of all they are +judged, as well those who have lived well and piously, as those who have +not. And those who appear to have passed a middle kind of life, +proceeding to Acheron, and embarking in the vessels they have, on these +arrive at the lake, and there dwell; and when they are purified, and +have suffered punishment for the iniquities they may have committed, +they are set free, and each receives the reward of his good deeds, +according to his deserts. But those who appear to be incurable, through +the magnitude of their offenses, either from having committed many and +great sacrileges, or many unjust and lawless murders, or other similar +crimes, these a suitable destiny hurls into Tartarus, whence they never +come forth. 144. But those who appear to have been guilty of curable yet +great offenses--such as those who, through anger, have committed any +violence against father or mother, and have lived the remainder of their +life in a state of penitence, or they who have become homicides in a +similar manner--these must, of necessity, fall into Tartarus. But after +they have fallen, and have been there for a year, the wave casts them +forth, the homicides into Cocytus, but the parricides and matricides +into Pyriphlegethon. But when, being borne along, they arrive at the +Acherusian lake, there they cry out to and invoke, some those whom they +slew, others those whom they injured, and, invoking them, they entreat +and implore them to suffer them to go out into the lake, and to receive +them, and if they persuade them, they go out, and are freed from their +sufferings, but if not, they are borne back to Tartarus, and thence +again to the rivers. And they do not cease from suffering this until +they have persuaded those whom they have injured, for this sentence was +imposed on them by the judges. 145. But those who are found to have +lived an eminently holy life, these are they who, being freed and set at +large from these regions in the earth as from a prison, arrive at the +pure abode above, and dwell on the upper parts of the earth. And among +these, they who have sufficiently purified themselves by philosophy +shall live without bodies, throughout all future time, and shall arrive +at habitations yet more beautiful than these which it is neither easy to +describe, nor at present is there sufficient time for the purpose." + +"But, for the sake of these things which we have described, we should +use every endeavor, Simmias, so as to acquire virtue and wisdom in this +life, for the reward is noble, and the hope great." + +"To affirm positively, indeed, that these things are exactly as I have +described them does not become a man of sense. That, however, either +this, or something of the kind, takes place with respect to our souls +and their habitations--since our soul is certainly immortal--this +appears to me most fitting to be believed, and worthy the hazard for one +who trusts in its reality; for the hazard is noble, and it is right to +allure ourselves with such things, as with enchantments, for which +reason I have prolonged my story to such a length. 146. On account of +these things, then, a man ought to be confident about his soul who, +during this life, has disregarded all the pleasures and ornaments of the +body as foreign from his nature, and who, having thought that they do +more harm than good, has zealously applied himself to the acquirement of +knowledge, and who, having adorned his soul, not with a foreign, but its +own proper ornament--temperance, justice, fortitude, freedom, and +truth--thus waits for his passage to Hades, as one who is ready to +depart whenever destiny shall summon him. You, then," he continued, +"Simmias and Cebes, and the rest, will each of you depart at some future +time, but now destiny summons me, as a tragic writer would say, and it +is nearly time for me to betake myself to the bath, for it appears to me +to be better to drink the poison after I have bathed myself, and not to +trouble the women with washing my dead body." + +147. When he had thus spoken, Crito said, "So be it, Socrates, but what +commands have you to give to these or to me, either respecting your +children, or any other matter, in attending to which we can most oblige +you?" + +"What I always say, Crito," he replied, "nothing new that by taking care +of yourselves you will oblige both me and mine, and yourselves, whatever +you do, though you should not now promise it, and if you neglect +yourselves, and will not live, as it were, in the footsteps of what has +been now and formerly said, even though you should promise much at +present, and that earnestly, you will do no good at all." + +"We will endeavor, then, so to do," he said. "But how shall we bury +you?" + +"Just as you please," he said, "if only you can catch me, and I do not +escape from you." 148. And, at the same time smiling gently, and looking +round on us, he said, "I cannot persuade Crito, my friends, that I am +that Socrates who is now conversing with you, and who methodizes each +part of the discourse; but he thinks that I am he whom he will shortly +behold dead, and asks how he should bury me. But that which I some time +since argued at length, that when I have drunk the poison I shall no +longer remain with you, but shall depart to some happy state of the +blessed, this I seem to have urged to him in vain, though I meant at the +same time to console both you and myself. Be ye, then, my sureties to +Crito," he said, "in an obligation contrary to that which he made to the +judges (for he undertook that I should remain); but do you be sureties +that, when I die, I shall not remain, but shall depart, that Crito may +more easily bear it; and, when he sees my body either burned or buried, +may not be afflicted for me, as if I suffered from some dreadful thing; +nor say at my interment that Socrates is laid out, or is carried out, or +is buried. 149. For be well assured," he said, "most excellent Crito, +that to speak improperly is not only culpable as to the thing itself, +but likewise occasions some injury to our souls. You must have a good +courage, then, and say that you bury my body, and bury it in such a +manner as is pleasing to you, and as you think is most agreeable to our +laws." + +When he had said thus, he rose, and went into a chamber to bathe, and +Crito followed him, but he directed us to wait for him. We waited, +therefore, conversing among ourselves about what had been said, and +considering it again, and sometimes speaking about our calamity, how +severe it would be to us, sincerely thinking that, like those who are +deprived of a father, we should pass the rest of our life as orphans. +When he had bathed, and his children were brought to him (for he had +two little sons and one grown up), and the women belonging to his family +were come, having conversed with them in the presence of Crito, and +given them such injunctions as he wished, he directed the women and +children to go away, and then returned to us. And it was now near +sunset; for he spent a considerable time within. 150. But when he came +from bathing he sat down, and did not speak much afterward; then the +officer of the Eleven came in, and, standing near him, said, "Socrates, +I shall not have to find that fault with you that I do with others, that +they are angry with me, and curse me, when, by order of the archons, I +bid them drink the poison. But you, on all other occasions during the +time you have been here, I have found to be the most noble, meek, and +excellent man of all that ever came into this place; and, therefore, I +am now well convinced that you will not be angry with me (for you know +who are to blame), but with them. Now, then (for you know what I came to +announce to you), farewell, and endeavor to bear what is inevitable as +easily as possible." And at the same time, bursting into tears, he +turned away and withdrew. + +151. And Socrates, looking after him, said, "And thou, too, farewell. We +will do as you direct." At the same time turning to us, he said, "How +courteous the man is! During the whole time I have been here he has +visited me, and conversed with me sometimes, and proved the worthiest of +men; and now how generously he weeps for me! But come, Crito, let us +obey him, and let some one bring the poison, if it is ready pounded; but +if not, let the man pound it." + +Then Crito said, "But I think, Socrates, that the sun is still on the +mountains, and has not yet set. Besides, I know that others have drunk +the poison very late, after it had been announced to them, and have +supped and drunk freely, and some even have enjoyed the objects of their +love. Do not hasten, then, for there is yet time." + +Upon this Socrates replied, "These men whom you mention, Crito, do these +things with good reason, for they think they shall gain by so doing; and +I, too, with good reason, shall not do so; for I think I shall gain +nothing by drinking a little later, except to become ridiculous to +myself, in being so fond of life, and sparing of it, when none any +longer remains. Go then," he said, "obey, and do not resist." + +152. Crito, having heard this, nodded to the boy that stood near. And +the boy, having gone out and staid for some time, came, bringing with +him the man that was to administer the poison, who brought it ready +pounded in a cup. And Socrates, on seeing the man, said, "Well, my good +friend, as you are skilled in these matters, what must I do?" + +"Nothing else," he replied, "than, when you have drunk it, walk about +until there is a heaviness in your legs; then lie down: thus it will do +its purpose." And at the same time he held out the cup to Socrates. And +he having received it very cheerfully, Echecrates neither trembling, nor +changing at all in color or countenance, but, as he was wont, looking +steadfastly at the man, said, "What say you of this potion, with respect +to making a libation to any one, is it lawful or not?" + +"We only pound so much, Socrates," he said, "as we think sufficient to +drink." + +153. "I understand you," he said; "but it is certainly both lawful and +right to pray to the gods, that my departure hence thither may be happy; +which, therefore, I pray, and so may it be." And as he said this, he +drank it off readily and calmly. Thus far, most of us were with +difficulty able to restrain ourselves from weeping; but when we saw him +drinking, and having finished the draught, we could do so no longer; +but, in spite of myself, the tears came in full torrent, so that, +covering my face, I wept for myself; for I did not weep for him, but for +my own fortune, in being deprived of such a friend. But Crito, even +before me, when he could not restrain his tears, had risen up. 154. But +Apollodorus, even before this, had not ceased weeping; and then, +bursting into an agony of grief, weeping and lamenting, he pierced the +heart of every one present, except Socrates himself. But he said, "What +are you doing, my admirable friends? I, indeed, for this reason chiefly, +sent away the women, that they might not commit any folly of this kind. +For I have heard that it is right to die with good omens. Be quiet, +therefore, and bear up." + +When we heard this, we were ashamed, and restrained our tears. But he, +having walked about, when he said that his legs were growing heavy, lay +down on his back; for the man had so directed him. And, at the same +time, he who gave the poison taking hold of him, after a short interval, +examined his feet and legs; and then, having pressed his foot hard, he +asked if he felt it: he said that he did not. And after this he pressed +his thighs; and, thus going higher, he showed us that he was growing +cold and stiff. Then Socrates touched himself, and said that when the +poison reached his heart he should then depart. 155. But now the parts +around the lower belly were almost cold; when, uncovering himself, for +he had been covered over, he said (and they were his last words), +"Crito, we owe a cock to Aesculapius; pay it, therefore; and do not +neglect it." + +"It shall be done," said Crito; "but consider whether you have any thing +else to say." + +To this question he gave no reply; but, shortly after, he gave a +convulsive movement, and the man covered him, and his eyes were fixed; +and Crito, perceiving it, closed his mouth and eyes. + +This, Echecrates, was the end of our friend,--a man, as we may say, the +best of all of his time that we have known, and, moreover, the most wise +and just. + + +FOOTNOTES + + [25] Phlius, to which Echecrates belonged, was a town of Sicyonia, in + Peloponnesus. + + [26] A Pythagorean of Crotona. + + [27] Namely, "that it is better to die than to live." + + [28] Hitto, Boetian for hioto. + + [29] Of Pythagoras. + + [30] Some boyish spirit. + + [31] That is, at a time of life when the body is in full vigor. + + [32] In the original there is a play on the words Haides and + haeides, which I can only attempt to retain by departing from + the usual rendering of the former word. + + [33] By this I understand him to mean that the soul alone can perceive + the truth, but the senses, as they are different, receive and convey + different impressions of the same thing; thus, the eye receives one + impression of an object, the ear a totally different one. + + [34] kai ahythis eteros kai eteros, that is, "with one argument + after another" Though Cousin translates it _et successivement tout + different de luimeme_ and Ast, _et rursus alia atque alia_, which + may be taken in either sense, yet it appears to me to mean that, + when a man repeatedly discovers the fallacy of arguments which he + before believed to be true, he distrusts reasoning altogether, just + as one who meets with friend after friend who proves unfaithful + becomes a misanthrope. + + [35] Lib. xx, v. 7. + + [36] Harmony was the wife of Cadmus, the founder of Thebes; Socrates, + therefore, compares his two Theban friends, Simmias and Cebes, with + them, and says that, having overcome Simmias, the advocate of + Harmony, he must now deal with Cebes, who is represented by Cadmus. + + [37] einai ti, literally, "is something." + + [38] That is, to single. + + [39] Sec. 113. + + [40] It is difficult to express the distinction between osia + and nomima. The former word seems to have reference to the souls of + the dead; the latter, to their bodies. + + [41] Its place of interment. + + [42] A proverb meaning "a matter of great difficulty." + + [43] "Iliad," lib. viii., v. 14. + + [44] A metallic substance of a deep-blue color, frequently mentioned by + the earliest Grecian writers, but of which the nature is unknown. + + + + + + + +End of Project Gutenberg's Apology, Crito, and Phaedo of Socrates, by Plato + +*** END OF THE PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK 13726 *** diff --git a/13726-h/13726-h.htm b/13726-h/13726-h.htm new file mode 100644 index 0000000..466a01c --- /dev/null +++ b/13726-h/13726-h.htm @@ -0,0 +1,6559 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" +"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> +<html> +<head> +<meta name="generator" content="HTML Tidy, see www.w3.org"> +<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content= +"text/html; charset=UTF-8"> +<title>The Project Gutenberg eBook of APOLOGY, CRITO AND +PHÆDO OF SOCRATES, by PLATO.</title> +<style title="1" type="text/css"> +/* <![CDATA[ XML blockout */ +<!-- + body{ + margin-left: 10%; + margin-right: 10%; + } + h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6{ + text-align: center; + text-transform: uppercase; + margin-top: 2em; + margin-bottom: 1em; + } + p{ + text-align: justify; + margin-top: .75em; + margin-bottom: .75em; + } + hr{ + width: 65%; + } + + div.titleelement{ + text-align: center; + margin-top: 5em; + margin-bottom: 5em; + } + div.contributor{ + font-size: 1.2em; + letter-spacing: 0.2em; + text-transform: uppercase; + } + div.tocitem{ + font-variant: small-caps; + margin-bottom: 0.5em; + } + div.footnote{ + margin-left: 10%; + margin-right: 10%; + font-size: 0.9em; + } + + span.speakername{ + font-style: italic; + } + span.greek, span.french, span.latin{ + font-style: italic; + } + span.emphasis{ + font-style: italic; + } + + .smalltext{ + font-size: 0.7em; + } + .noncss{ /* these tags are for non-css capable browsers */ + display: none; + } + // --> + /* XML end ]]>*/ + +</style> +</head> +<body> +<div>*** START OF THE PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK 13726 ***</div> + +<div class="titlepage"><a class='pagenumber' name='page1' id= +'page1'></a> <a name='apology_crito_and_phaedo_of_socrates' id= +'apology_crito_and_phaedo_of_socrates'></a> + +<h1><span class='smalltext'>Plato's</span><br> + Apology, Crito And Phædo<br> + Of<br> + Socrates.</h1> + +<br class="noncss"> + + +<div class='titleelement'>Literally Translated By + +<div class='contributor'>Henry Cary, M.A.,</div> + +<span class="emphasis">Worcester College, Oxford</span></div> + +<br class="noncss"> + + +<div class='titleelement'>With An Introduction By + +<div class='contributor'>Edward Brooks, jr.</div> +</div> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="toc"><a class='pagenumber' name='page2' id='page2'></a> +<a class='pagenumber' name='page3' id='page3'></a> <a name= +'contents' id='contents'></a> + +<h2>Contents.</h2> + +<div class="tocitem"><a href='#introduction'>Introduction</a></div> + +<div class="tocitem"><a href='#the_apology_of_socrates'>The Apology +Of Socrates</a></div> + +<div class="tocitem"><a href= +'#introduction_to_the_crito'>Introduction to the crito</a></div> + +<div class="tocitem"><a href= +'#crito_or_the_duty_of_a_citizen'>Crito; Or, The Duty Of A +Citizen</a></div> + +<div class="tocitem"><a href= +'#introduction_to_the_phaedo'>Introduction To The +Phædo</a></div> + +<div class="tocitem"><a href= +'#phaedo_or_the_immortality_of_the_soul'>Phædo; Or, The +Immortality Of The Soul</a></div> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="introduction"><a class='pagenumber' name='page4' id= +'page4'></a> <a class='pagenumber' name='page5' id='page5'></a> <a +class='pagenumber' name='page6' id='page6'></a> <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page7' id='page7'></a> <a name= +'introduction'></a> + +<h2>Introduction.</h2> + +<p>Of all writers of speculative philosophy, both ancient and +modern, there is probably no one who has attained so eminent a +position as Plato. What Homer was to Epic poetry, what Cicero and +Demosthenes were to oratory, and what Shakespeare was to the drama +of England, Plato was to ancient philosophy, not unapproachable nor +unapproached, but possessing an inexplicable but unquestioned +supremacy.</p> + +<p>The authentic records of his life are meagre, and much that has +been written concerning him is of a speculative nature. He was born +at Athens in the year 427 B.C. His father's name was Ariston, and +his mother's family, which claimed its descent from Solon, included +among its members many Athenian notables, among whom was Oritias, +one of the thirty tyrants.</p> + +<p>In his early youth Plato applied himself to poetry and painting, +both of which pursuits he relinquished to become the disciple and +follower of Socrates. It is said that his name was originally +Aristocles, but that it was changed to Plato on account of the +breadth of his shoulders and forehead. He is also said to have been +an expert wrestler and to have taken part in several important +battles.</p> + +<p>He was the devoted friend and pupil of Socrates, and during the +imprisonment of his master he attended him <a class='pagenumber' +name='page8' id='page8'></a> constantly, and committed to writing +his last discourses on the immortality of the soul.</p> + +<p>After the death of Socrates it is supposed that Plato took +refuge with Euclides in Megara, and subsequently extended his +travels into Magna Graecia and Egypt.</p> + +<p>Upon his return to Athens he taught those who came to him for +instruction in the grove named Academus, near the Cephisus, and +thus founded the first great philosophical school, over which he +continued to preside until the day of his death. Above the entrance +to this grove was inscribed the legend: "Let no one ignorant of +geometry enter here." Here he was attended by persons of every +description, among the more illustrious of whom were Aristotle, +Lycurgus, Demosthenes and Isocrates.</p> + +<p>There is a story to the effect that Plato three times visited +Sicily, once upon the invitation of the elder Dionysius, and twice +at the earnest solicitations of the younger. The former he is said +to have so seriously offended as to cause the tyrant to have him +seized on his return home and sold as a slave, from which state of +bondage he was, however, released by Anicerius of Cyrene.</p> + +<p>The people of his time thought more of him than they did of all +their other philosophers, and called him the Divine Plato. So great +was the regard and veneration for him that it was considered better +to err with Plato than be right with any one else.</p> + +<p>The writings of Plato are numerous, and most of them are in the +form of dialogues. The following pages contain translations of +three of his works, viz.: "The Apologia," "The Crito" and "The +Phædo," all of <a class='pagenumber' name='page9' id= +'page9'></a>which have reference to the trial, imprisonment and +death of Socrates.</p> + +<p>"The Apologia" represents Socrates on trial for his life, +undertaking his own defence, though unaccustomed to the language of +the courts, the occasion being, as he says, the first time he has +ever been before a court of justice, though seventy years of age. +Plato was present at the trial, and no doubt gives us the very +arguments used by the accused. Two charges were brought against +Socrates—one that he did not believe in the gods recognized +by the State, the other that he had corrupted the Athenian youth by +his teachings. Socrates does not have recourse to the ordinary +methods adopted by orators on similar occasions. He prefers to +stand upon his own integrity and innocence, uninfluenced by the +fear of that imaginary evil, death. He, therefore, does not firmly +grapple with either of the charges preferred against him. He +neither denies nor confesses the first accusation, but shows that +in several instances he conformed to the religious customs of his +country, and that he believes in God more than he fears man. The +second charge he meets by a cross-examination of his accuser, +Melitus, whom he reduces to the dilemma of charging him with +corrupting the youth designedly, which would be absurd, or with +doing so undesignedly, for which he could not be liable to +punishment.</p> + +<p>His defence, however, avails him nothing, and he is condemned by +the judges to die by drinking the poisonous hemlock. In the closing +part of "The Apologia" Socrates is represented as commenting upon +the sentence which has been passed upon him, and as expressing his +<a class='pagenumber' name='page10' id='page10'></a>belief that in +going to his death he is only passing to a better and a happier +life.</p> + +<p>In "The Crito" Socrates is represented in conversation with a +friend of his named Crito, who had been present at his trial, and +who had offered to assist Socrates in paying a fine, had a fine +been the sentence imposed. Crito visits Socrates in his confinement +to bring to him the intelligence that the ship, the arrival of +which was to be the signal for his death upon the following day, +would arrive forthwith, and to urge him to adopt the means of +escape which had already been prepared. Socrates promises to follow +the advice of Crito if, upon a full discussion of the matter, it +seems right to do so. In the conversation which ensues Socrates +argues that it is wrong to return evil for evil and that the +obligations which a citizen owes to his State are more binding than +those which a child owes his parents or a slave his master, and, +therefore, it is his duty to submit to the laws of Athens at +whatever cost to himself. Crito has no answer to make to this +argument, and Socrates thereupon decides to submit to his fate.</p> + +<p>Plato is said to have had two objects in writing this dialogue: +First, to acquit Socrates of the charge of corrupting the Athenian +youth; and, second, to establish the fact that it is necessary +under all circumstances to submit to the established laws of his +country.</p> + +<p>"The Phædo" relates the manner in which Socrates spent the +last day of his life and the circumstances attending his death. He +is visited by a number of his friends, among whom are Phædo, +Simmias and Crito. When his friends arrive they find him sitting +upon a bed <a class='pagenumber' name='page11' id='page11'></a> +rubbing his legs, which have just been released from bonds. He +remarks upon the unaccountable connection between pleasure and +pain, and from this the conversation gradually turns to a +consideration of the question of the immortality of the soul. He +convinces his listeners of the pre-existence of the soul; but they +are still skeptical as to its immortality, urging that its +pre-existence and the fact that it is more durable than the body +does not preclude the possibility of its being mortal. Socrates, +however, argues that contraries cannot exist in the same thing at +the same time, as, for example, the same object cannot partake of +both magnitude and littleness at the same time. In like manner, +heat while it is heat can never admit the idea of cold. Life and +death are contraries and can never coexist; but wherever there is +life there is soul, so that the soul contains that which is +contrary to death and can never admit death; consequently the soul +is immortal.</p> + +<p>Having convinced his listeners, Socrates bathes and takes leave +of his children and the women of his family. Thereupon the officer +appears and tells him it is time for him to drink the poison. At +this his friends commence to weep and are rebuked by Socrates for +their weakness. He drinks the poison calmly and without hesitation, +and then begins to walk about, still conversing with his friends. +His limbs soon grow stiff and heavy and he lays himself down upon +his back. His last words are: "Crito, we owe a cock to +Æsculapius; pay it, therefore, and do not neglect it."</p> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="book"><a class='pagenumber' name='page12' id= +'page12'></a> <a class='pagenumber' name='page13' id='page13'></a> +<a name='the_apology_of_socrates'></a> + +<h2>The Apology Of Socrates.</h2> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec1" name= +"apology_sec1"></a>I know not, O Athenians! how far you have been +influenced by my accusers for my part, in listening to them I +almost forgot myself, so plausible were their arguments however, so +to speak, they have said nothing true. But of the many falsehoods +which they uttered I wondered at one of them especially, that in +which they said that you ought to be on your guard lest you should +be deceived by me, as being eloquent in speech. For that they are +not ashamed of being forthwith convicted by me in fact, when I +shall show that I am not by any means eloquent, this seemed to me +the most shameless thing in them, unless indeed they call him +eloquent who speaks the truth. For, if they mean this, then I would +allow that I am an orator, but not after their fashion for they, as +I affirm, have said nothing true, but from me you shall hear the +whole truth. Not indeed, Athenians, arguments highly wrought, as +theirs were, with choice phrases and expressions, nor adorned, but +you shall hear a speech uttered without premeditation in such words +as first present themselves. For I am confident that what I say +will be just, and let none of you expect otherwise, for surely it +would not become my time of life to come before you like a youth +with a got up speech. Above all things, <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page14' id='page14'></a>therefore, I beg and implore this of you, +O Athenians! if you hear me defending myself in the same language +as that in which I am accustomed to speak both in the forum at the +counters, where many of you have heard me, and elsewhere, not to be +surprised or disturbed on this account. For the case is this: I now +for the first time come before a court of justice, though more than +seventy years old; I am therefore utterly a stranger to the +language here. As, then, if I were really a stranger, you would +have pardoned me if I spoke in the language and the manner in which +I had been educated, so now I ask this of you as an act of justice, +as it appears to me, to disregard the manner of my speech, for +perhaps it may be somewhat worse, and perhaps better, and to +consider this only, and to give your attention to this, whether I +speak what is just or not; for this is the virtue of a judge, but +of an orator to speak the truth.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec2" name= +"apology_sec2">2</a>. First, then, O Athenians! I am right in +defending myself against the first false accusations alleged +against me, and my first accusers, and then against the latest +accusations, and the latest accusers. For many have been accusers +of me to you, and for many years, who have asserted nothing true, +of whom I am more afraid than of Anytus and his party, although +they too are formidable; but those are still more formidable, +Athenians, who, laying hold of many of you from childhood, have +persuaded you, and accused me of what is not true: "that there is +one Socrates, a wise man, who occupies himself about celestial +matters, and has explored every thing under the earth, and makes +the worse appear the better reason." Those, O Athenians! who have +spread abroad this report are my formidable accusers; for they who +hear them think that such as search into these things do not +believe that there are gods. In the next place, these accusers are +numerous, and have accused me now for <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page15' id='page15'></a>a long time; moreover, they said these +things to you at that time of life in which you were most +credulous, when you were boys and some of you youths, and they +accused me altogether in my absence, when there was no one to +defend me. But the most unreasonable thing of all is, that it is +not possible to learn and mention their names, except that one of +them happens to be a comic poet.<a id="footnotetag1" name= +"footnotetag1" href="#footnote1"><sup>1</sup></a> Such, however, +as, influenced by envy and calumny, have persuaded you, and those +who, being themselves persuaded, have persuaded others, all these +are most difficult to deal with; for it is not possible to bring +any of them forward here, nor to confute any; but it is altogether +necessary to fight, as it were with a shadow, in making my defense, +and to convict when there is no one to answer. Consider, therefore, +as I have said, that my accusers are twofold, some who have lately +accused me, and others long since, whom I have made mention of; and +believe that I ought to defend myself against these first; for you +heard them accusing me first, and much more than these last.</p> + +<p>Well. I must make my defense, then, O Athenians! and endeavor in +this so short a space of time to remove from your minds the calumny +which you have long entertained. I wish, indeed, it might be so, if +it were at all better both for you and me, and that in making my +defense I could effect something more advantageous still: I think, +however, that it will be difficult, and I am not entirely ignorant +what the difficulty is. Nevertheless, let this turn out as may be +pleasing to God, I must obey the law and make my defense.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec3" name= +"apology_sec3">3</a>. Let us, then, repeat from the beginning what +the accusation is from which the calumny against me has arisen, <a +class='pagenumber' name='page16' id='page16'></a>and relying on +which Melitus has preferred this indictment against me. Well. What, +then, do they who charge me say in their charge? For it is +necessary to read their deposition as of public accusers. "Socrates +acts wickedly, and is criminally curious in searching into things +under the earth, and in the heavens, and in making the worse appear +the better cause, and in teaching these same things to others." +Such is the accusation: for such things you have yourselves seen in +the comedy of Aristophanes, one Socrates there carried about, +saying that he walks in the air, and acting many other +buffooneries, of which I understand nothing whatever. Nor do I say +this as disparaging such a science, if there be any one skilled in +such things, only let me not be prosecuted by Melitus on a charge +of this kind; but I say it, O Athenians! because I have nothing to +do with such matters. And I call upon most of you as witnesses of +this, and require you to inform and tell each other, as many of you +as have ever heard me conversing; and there are many such among +you. Therefore tell each other, if any one of you has ever heard me +conversing little or much on such subjects. And from this you will +know that other things also, which the multitude assert of me, are +of a similar nature.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec4" name= +"apology_sec4">4</a>. However not one of these things is true; nor, +if you have heard from any one that I attempt to teach men, and +require payment, is this true. Though this, indeed, appears to me +to be an honorable thing, if one should be able to instruct men, +like Gorgias the Leontine, Prodicus the Cean, and Hippias the +Elean. For each of these, O Athenians! is able, by going through +the several cities, to persuade the young men, who can attach +themselves gratuitously to such of their own fellow-citizens as +they please, to abandon their fellow-citizens and associate with +them, giving <a class='pagenumber' name='page17' id= +'page17'></a>them money and thanks besides. There is also another +wise man here, a Parian, who, I hear, is staying in the city. For I +happened to visit a person who spends more money on the sophists +than all others together: I mean Callias, son of Hipponicus. I +therefore asked him, for he has two sons, "Callias," I said, "if +your two sons were colts or calves, we should have had to choose a +master for them, and hire a person who would make them excel in +such qualities as belong to their nature; and he would have been a +groom or an agricultural laborer. But now, since your sons are men, +what master do you intend to choose for them? Who is there skilled +in the qualities that become a man and a citizen? For I suppose you +must have considered this, since you have sons. Is there any one," +I said, "or not?" "Certainly," he answered. "Who is he?" said I, +"and whence does he come? and on what terms does he teach?" He +replied, "Evenus the Parian, Socrates, for five minæ." And I +deemed Evenus happy, if he really possesses this art, and teaches +admirably. And I too should think highly of myself, and be very +proud, if I possessed this knowledge, but I possess it not, O +Athenians.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec5" name= +"apology_sec5">5</a>. Perhaps, one of you may now object: "But, +Socrates, what have you done, then? Whence have these calumnies +against you arisen? For surely if you had not busied yourself more +than others, such a report and story would never have got abroad, +unless you had done something different from what most men do. Tell +us, therefore, what it is, that we may not pass a hasty judgment on +you." He who speaks thus appears to me to speak justly, and I will +endeavor to show you what it is that has occasioned me this +character and imputation. Listen, then: to some of you perhaps I +shall appear to jest, yet be assured that I shall tell you the +whole truth. For I, O Athenians! have acquired this character <a +class='pagenumber' name='page18' id='page18'></a>through nothing +else than a certain wisdom. Of what kind, then, is this wisdom? +Perhaps it is merely human wisdom. For in this, in truth, I appear +to be wise. They probably, whom I have just now mentioned, +possessed a wisdom more than human, otherwise I know not what to +say about it; for I am not acquainted with it, and whosoever says I +am, speaks falsely, and for the purpose of calumniating me. But, O +Athenians! do not cry out against me, even though I should seem to +you to speak somewhat arrogantly. For the account which I am going +to give you is not my own; but I shall refer to an authority whom +you will deem worthy of credit. For I shall adduce to you the god +at Delphi as a witness of my wisdom, if I have any, and of what it +is. You doubtless know Chærepho: he was my associate from +youth, and the associate of most of you; he accompanied you in your +late exile, and returned with you. You know, then, what kind of a +man Chærepho was, how earnest in whatever he undertook. +Having once gone to Delphi, he ventured to make the following +inquiry of the oracle (and, as I said, O Athenians! do not cry +out), for he asked if there was any one wiser than I. The Pythian +thereupon answered that there was not one wiser; and of this, his +brother here will give you proofs, since he himself is dead.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec6" name= +"apology_sec6">6</a>. Consider, then, why I mention these things: +it is because I am going to show you whence the calumny against me +arose. For when I heard this, I reasoned thus with myself, What +does the god mean? What enigma is this? For I am not conscious to +myself that I am wise, either much or little. What, then, does he +mean by saying that I am the wisest? For assuredly he does not +speak falsely: that he could not do. And for a long time I was in +doubt what he meant; afterward, with considerable difficulty, I had +recourse <a class='pagenumber' name='page19' id='page19'></a>to the +following method of searching out his meaning. I went to one of +those who have the character of being wise, thinking that there, if +anywhere, I should confute the oracle, and show in answer to the +response that This man is wiser than I, though you affirmed that I +was the wisest. Having, then, examined this man (for there is no +occasion to mention his name; he was, however, one of our great +politicians, in examining whom I felt as I proceed to describe, O +Athenians!), having fallen into conversation with him, this man +appeared to be wise in the opinion of most other men, and +especially in his own opinion, though in fact he was not so. I +thereupon endeavored to show him that he fancied himself to be +wise, but really was not. Hence I became odious, both to him and to +many others who were present. When I left him, I reasoned thus with +myself: I am wiser than this man, for neither of us appears to know +anything great and good; but he fancies he knows something, +although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know anything, so +I do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I appear to +be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not know. +After that I went to another who was thought to be wiser than the +former, and formed the very same opinion. Hence I became odious to +him and to many others.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec7" name= +"apology_sec7">7</a>. After this I went to others in turn, +perceiving indeed, and grieving and alarmed, that I was making +myself odious; however, it appeared necessary to regard the oracle +of the god as of the greatest moment, and that, in order to +discover its meaning, I must go to all who had the reputation of +possessing any knowledge. And by the dog, O Athenians! for I must +tell you the truth, I came to some such conclusion as this: those +who bore the highest reputation appeared to me to be most +deficient, in my researches in obedience <a class='pagenumber' +name='page20' id='page20'></a>to the god, and others who were +considered inferior more nearly approaching to the possession of +understanding. But I must relate to you my wandering, and the +labors which I underwent, in order that the oracle might prove +incontrovertible. For after the politicians I went to the poets, as +well the tragic as the dithyrambic and others, expecting that here +I should in very fact find myself more ignorant than they. Taking +up, therefore, some of their poems, which appeared to me most +elaborately finished, I questioned them as to their meaning, that +at the same time I might learn something from them. I am ashamed, O +Athenians! to tell you the truth; however, it must be told. For, in +a word, almost all who were present could have given a better +account of them than those by whom they had been composed. I soon +discovered this, therefore, with regard to the poets, that they do +not effect their object by wisdom, but by a certain natural +inspiration, and under the influence of enthusiasm, like prophets +and seers; for these also say many fine things, but they understand +nothing that they say. The poets appeared to me to be affected in a +similar manner; and at the same time I perceived that they +considered themselves, on account of their poetry, to be the wisest +of men in other things, in which they were not. I left them, +therefore, under the persuasion that I was superior to them, in the +same way that I was to the politicians.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec8" name= +"apology_sec8">8</a>. At last, therefore, I went to the artisans. +For I was conscious to myself that I knew scarcely anything, but I +was sure that I should find them possessed of much beautiful +knowledge. And in this I was not deceived; for they knew things +which I did not, and in this respect they were wiser than I. But, O +Athenians! even the best workmen appeared to me to have fallen into +the same error as the poets; for each, because he excelled in the +practice of his art, thought <a class='pagenumber' name='page21' +id='page21'></a>that he was very wise in other most important +matters, and this mistake of theirs obscured the wisdom that they +really possessed. I therefore asked myself, in behalf of the +oracle, whether I should prefer to continue as I am, possessing +none, either of their wisdom or their ignorance, or to have both as +they have. I answered, therefore, to myself and to the oracle, that +it was better for me to continue as I am.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec9" name= +"apology_sec9">9</a>. From this investigation, then, O Athenians! +many enmities have arisen against me, and those the most grievous +and severe, so that many calumnies have sprung from them, and among +them this appellation of being wise; for those who are from time to +time present think that I am wise in those things, with respect to +which I expose the ignorance of others. The god, however, O +Athenians! appears to be really wise, and to mean this by his +oracle: that human wisdom is worth little or nothing; and it is +clear that he did not say this to Socrates, but made use of my +name, putting me forward as an example, as if he had said, that man +is the wisest among you, who, like Socrates, knows that he is in +reality worth nothing with respect to wisdom. Still, therefore, I +go about and search and inquire into these things, in obedience to +the god, both among citizens and strangers, if I think any one of +them is wise; and when he appears to me not to be so, I take the +part of the god, and show that he is not wise. And, in consequence +of this occupation, I have no leisure to attend in any considerable +degree to the affairs of the state or my own; but I am in the +greatest poverty through my devotion to the service of the god.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec10" name= +"apology_sec10">10</a>. In addition to this, young men, who have +much leisure and belong to the wealthiest families, following me of +their own accord, take great delight in hearing men put to the +test, and often imitate me, and themselves attempt to <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page22' id='page22'></a>put others to the test; +and then, I think, they find a great abundance of men who fancy +they know something, although they know little or nothing. Hence +those who are put to the test by them are angry with me, and not +with them, and say that "there is one Socrates, a most pestilent +fellow, who corrupts the youth." And when any one asks them by +doing or teaching what, they have nothing to say, for they do not +know; but, that they may not seem to be at a loss, they say such +things as are ready at hand against all philosophers; "that he +searches into things in heaven and things under the earth, that he +does not believe there are gods, and that he makes the worse appear +the better reason." For they would not, I think, be willing to tell +the truth that they have been detected in pretending to possess +knowledge, whereas they know nothing. Therefore, I think, being +ambitions and vehement and numerous, and speaking systematically +and persuasively about me, they have filled your ears, for a long +time and diligently calumniating me. From among these, Melitus, +Anytus and Lycon have attacked me; Melitus being angry on account +of the poets, Anytus on account of the artisans and politicians, +and Lycon on account of the rhetoricians. So that, as I said in the +beginning, I should wonder if I were able in so short a time to +remove from your minds a calumny that has prevailed so long. This, +O Athenians! is the truth; and I speak it without concealing or +disguising anything from you, much or little; though I very well +know that by so doing I shall expose myself to odium. This, +however, is a proof that I speak the truth, and that this is the +nature of the calumny against me, and that these are its causes. +And if you will investigate the matter, either now or hereafter, +you will find it to be so.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec11" name= +"apology_sec11">11</a>. With respect, then, to the charges which my +first accusers <a class='pagenumber' name='page23' id= +'page23'></a>have alleged against me, let this be a sufficient +apology to you. To Melitus, that good and patriotic man, as he +says, and to my later accusers, I will next endeavor to give an +answer; and here, again, as there are different accusers, let us +take up their deposition. It is pretty much as follows: "Socrates," +it says, "acts unjustly in corrupting the youth, and in not +believing in those gods in whom the city believes, but in other +strange divinities." Such is the accusation; let us examine each +particular of it. It says that I act unjustly in corrupting the +youth. But I, O Athenians! say that Melitus acts unjustly, because +he jests on serious subjects, rashly putting men upon trial, under +pretense of being zealous and solicitous about things in which he +never at any time took any concern. But that this is the case I +will endeavor to prove to you.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec12" name= +"apology_sec12">12</a>. Come, then, Melitus, tell me, do you not +consider it of the greatest importance that the youth should be +made as virtuous as possible?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> I do.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Well, now, tell the +judges who it is that makes them better, for it is evident that you +know, since it concerns you so much; for, having detected me in +corrupting them, as you say, you have cited me here, and accused +me: come, then, say, and inform the judges who it is that makes +them better. Do you see, Melitus, that you are silent, and have +nothing to say? But does it not appear to you to be disgraceful, +and a sufficient proof of what I say, that you never took any +concern about the matter? But tell me, friend, who makes them +better?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> The laws.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> I do not ask this, most +excellent sir, but what man, who surely must first know this very +thing, the laws?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> These, Socrates, the +judges.</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page24' id='page24'></a><span class= +"speakername">Socr.</span> How say you, Melitus? Are these able to +instruct the youth, and make them better?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> Certainly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Whether all, or some of +them, and others not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> All.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> You say well, by Juno! +and have found a great abundance of those that confer benefit. But +what further? Can these hearers make them better, or not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> They, too, can.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> And what of the +senators?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> The senators, also.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> But, Melitus, do those +who attend the public assemblies corrupt the younger men? or do +they all make them better?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> They too.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> All the Athenians, +therefore, as it seems, make them honorable and good, except me; +but I alone corrupt them. Do you say so?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> I do assert this very +thing.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> You charge me with great +ill-fortune. But answer me: does it appear to you to be the same, +with respect to horses? Do all men make them better, and is there +only some one that spoils them? or does quite the contrary of this +take place? Is there some one person who can make them better, or +very few; that is, the trainers? But if the generality of men +should meddle with and make use of horses, do they spoil them? Is +not this the case, Melitus, both with respect to horses and all +other animals? It certainly is so, whether you and Anytus deny it +or not. For it would be a great good-fortune for the youth if only +one person corrupted, and the rest benefited them. However, +Melitus, you have sufficiently shown that you never bestowed any +care upon youth; and you clearly evince your own negligence, <a +class='pagenumber' name='page25' id='page25'></a>in that you have +never paid any attention to the things with respect to which you +accuse me.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec13" name= +"apology_sec13">13</a>. Tell us further, Melitus, in the name of +Jupiter, whether is it better to dwell with good or bad citizens? +Answer, my friend; for I ask you nothing difficult. Do not the bad +work some evil to those that are continually near them, but the +good some good?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> Certainly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Is there any one that +wishes to be injured rather than benefited by his associates? +Answer, good man; for the law requires you to answer. Is there any +one who wishes to be injured?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> No, surely.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Come, then, whether do +you accuse me here, as one that corrupts the youth, and makes them +more depraved, designedly or undesignedly?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> Designedly, I say.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> What, then, Melitus, are +you at your time of life so much wiser than I at my time of life, +as to know that the evil are always working some evil to those that +are most near to them, and the good some good; but I have arrived +at such a pitch of ignorance as not to know that if I make any one +of my associates depraved, I shall be in danger of receiving some +evil from him; and yet I designedly bring about this so great evil, +as you say? In this I can not believe you, Melitus, nor do I think +would any other man in the world. But either I do not corrupt the +youth, or, if I do corrupt them, I do it undesignedly: so that in +both cases you speak falsely. But if I corrupt them undesignedly, +for such involuntary offenses it is not usual to accuse one here, +but to take one apart, and teach and admonish one. For it is +evident that if I am taught, I shall cease doing what I do +undesignedly. But you shunned me, and were not willing <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page26' id='page26'></a>to associate with and +instruct me; but you accuse me here, where it is usual to accuse +those who need punishment, and not instruction.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec14" name= +"apology_sec14">14</a>. Thus, then, O Athenians! this now is clear +that I have said; that Melitus never paid any attention to these +matters, much or little. However, tell us, Melitus, how you say I +corrupt the youth? Is it not evidently, according to the indictment +which you have preferred, by teaching them not to believe in the +gods in whom the city believes, but in other strange deities? Do +you not say that, by teaching these things, I corrupt the +youth?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> Certainly I do say so.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> By those very gods, +therefore, Melitus, of whom the discussion now is, speak still more +clearly both to me and to these men. For I can not understand +whether you say that I teach them to believe that there are certain +gods (and in that case I do believe that there are gods, and am not +altogether an atheist, nor in this respect to blame), not, however, +those which the city believes in, but others; and this it is that +you accuse me of, that I introduce others. Or do you say outright +that I do not myself believe that there are gods, and that I teach +others the same?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> I say this: that you do +not believe in any gods at all.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> O wonderful Melitus, how +come you to say this? Do I not, then, like the rest of mankind, +believe that the sun and moon are gods?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> No, by Jupiter, O judges! +for he says that the sun is a stone, and the moon an earth.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> You fancy that you are +accusing Anaxagoras, my dear Melitus, and thus you put a slight on +these men, and suppose them to be so illiterate as not to know that +the books of Anaxagoras of Clazomene are full of such assertions. +<a class='pagenumber' name='page27' id='page27'></a>And the young, +moreover, learn these things from me, which they might purchase for +a drachma, at most, in the orchestra, and so ridicule Socrates, if +he pretended they were his own, especially since they are so +absurd? I ask then, by Jupiter, do I appear to you to believe that +there is no god?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> No, by Jupiter, none +whatever.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> You say what is +incredible, Melitus, and that, as appears to me, even to yourself. +For this man, O Athenians! appears to me to be very insolent and +intemperate and to have preferred this indictment through downright +insolence, intemperance, and wantonness. For he seems, as it were, +to have composed an enigma for the purpose of making an experiment. +Whether will Socrates the wise know that I am jesting, and +contradict myself, or shall I deceive him and all who hear me? For, +in my opinion, he clearly contradicts himself in the indictment, as +if he should say, Socrates is guilty of wrong in not believing that +there are gods, and in believing that there are gods. And this, +surely, is the act of one who is trifling.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec15" name= +"apology_sec15">15</a>. Consider with me now, Athenians, in what +respect he appears to me to say so. And do you, Melitus, answer me; +and do ye, as I besought you at the outset, remember not to make an +uproar if I speak after my usual manner.</p> + +<p>Is there any man, Melitus, who believes that there are human +affairs, but does not believe that there are men? Let him answer, +judges, and not make so much noise. Is there any one who does not +believe that there are horses, but that there are things pertaining +to horses? or who does not believe that there are pipers, but that +there are things pertaining to pipes? There is not, O best of men! +for since you are not willing to answer, I say it to you and to all +here present. But answer to this at least: is there any one who <a +class='pagenumber' name='page28' id='page28'></a>believes that +there are things relating to demons, but does not believe that +there are demons?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> There is not.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> How obliging you are in +having hardly answered; though compelled by these judges! You +assert, then, that I do believe and teach things relating to +demons, whether they be new or old; therefore, according to your +admission, I do believe in things relating to demons, and this you +have sworn in the bill of indictment. If, then, I believe in things +relating to demons, there is surely an absolute necessity that I +should believe that there are demons. Is it not so? It is. For I +suppose you to assent, since you do not answer. But with respect to +demons, do we not allow that they are gods, or the children of +gods? Do you admit this or not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> Certainly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Since, then, I allow that +there are demons, as you admit, if demons are a kind of gods, this +is the point in which I say you speak enigmatically and divert +yourself in saying that I do not allow there are gods, and again +that I do allow there are, since I allow that there are demons? But +if demons are the children of gods, spurious ones, either from +nymphs or any others, of whom they are reported to be, what man can +think that there are sons of gods, and yet that there are not gods? +For it would be just as absurd as if any one should think that +there are mules, the offspring of horses and asses, but should not +think there are horses and asses. However, Melitus, it can not be +otherwise than that you have preferred this indictment for the +purpose of trying me, or because you were at a loss what real crime +to allege against me; for that you should persuade any man who has +the smallest degree of sense that the same person can think that +there are things relating to demons and to <a class='pagenumber' +name='page29' id='page29'></a>gods, and yet that there are neither +demons, nor gods, not heroes, is utterly impossible.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec16" name= +"apology_sec16">16</a>. That I am not guilty, then, O Athenians! +according to the indictment of Melitus, appears to me not to +require a lengthened defense; but what I have said is sufficient. +And as to what I said at the beginning, that there is a great +enmity toward me among the multitude, be assured it is true. And +this it is which will condemn me, if I am condemned, not Melitus, +nor Anytus, but the calumny and envy of the multitude, which have +already condemned many others, and those good men, and will, I +think, condemn others also; for there is no danger that it will +stop with me.</p> + +<p>Perhaps, however, some one may say, "Are you not ashamed, +Socrates, to have pursued a study from which you are now in danger +of dying?" To such a person I should answer with good reason, You +do not say well, friend, if you think that a man, who is even of +the least value, ought to take into the account the risk of life or +death, and ought not to consider that alone when be performs any +action, whether he is acting justly or unjustly, and the part of a +good man or bad man. For, according to your reasoning, all those +demi-gods that died at Troy would be vile characters, as well all +the rest as the son of Thetis, who so far despised danger in +comparison of submitting to disgrace, that when his mother, who was +a goddess, spoke to him, in his impatience to kill Hector, +something to this effect, as I think,<a id="footnotetag2" name= +"footnotetag2" href="#footnote2"><sup>2</sup></a> "My son, if you +revenge the death of your friend Patroclus, and slay Hector, you +will yourself die, for," she said, "death awaits you immediately +after Hector;" but he, on hearing this, despised death and danger, +and dreading much more to live as a coward, and not avenge his <a +class='pagenumber' name='page30' id='page30'></a>friend, said, "May +I die immediately when I have inflicted punishment on the guilty, +that I may not stay here an object of ridicule, by the curved +ships, a burden to the ground?"—do you think that he cared +for death and danger? For thus it is, O Athenians! in truth: +wherever any one has posted himself, either thinking it to be +better, or has been posted by his chief, there, as it appears to +me, he ought to remain and meet danger, taking no account either of +death or anything else in comparison with disgrace.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec17" name= +"apology_sec17">17</a>. I then should be acting strangely, O +Athenians! if, when the generals whom you chose to command me +assigned me my post at Potidæa, at Amphipolis, and at Delium, +I then remained where they posted me, like any other person, and +encountered the danger of death; but when the deity, as I thought +and believed, assigned it as my duty to pass my life in the study +of philosophy, and examining myself and others, I should on that +occasion, through fear of death or any thing else whatsoever, +desert my post, strange indeed would it be; and then, in truth, any +one might justly bring me to trial, and accuse me of not believing +in the gods, from disobeying the oracle, fearing death, and +thinking myself to be wise when I am not. For to fear death, O +Athenians! is nothing else than to appear to be wise, without being +so; for it is to appear to know what one does not know. For no one +knows but that death is the greatest of all good to man; but men +fear it, as if they well knew that it is the greatest of evils. And +how is not this the most reprehensible ignorance, to think that one +knows what one does not know? But I, O Athenians! in this, perhaps, +differ from most men; and if I should say that I am in any thing +wiser than another, it would be in this, that not having a +competent knowledge of the things in Hades, I also think that I +have not such knowledge. But to act unjustly, and to disobey my +superior, <a class='pagenumber' name='page31' id= +'page31'></a>whether God or man, I know is evil and base. I shall +never, therefore, fear or shun things which, for aught I know, +maybe good, before evils which I know to be evils. So that, even if +you should now dismiss me, not yielding to the instances of Anytus, +who said that either I should not<a id="footnotetag3" name= +"footnotetag3" href="#footnote3"><sup>3</sup></a> appear here at +all, or that, if I did appear, it was impossible not to put me to +death, telling you that if I escaped, your sons, studying what +Socrates teaches, would all be utterly corrupted; if you should +address me thus, "Socrates, we shall not now yield to Anytus, but +dismiss you, on this condition, however, that you no longer +persevere in your researches nor study philosophy; and if hereafter +you are detected in so doing, you shall die"—if, as I said, +you should dismiss, me on these terms, I should say to you, "O +Athenians! I honor and love you; but I shall obey God rather than +you; and so long as I breathe and am able, I shall not cease +studying philosophy, and exhorting you and warning any one of you I +may happen to meet, saying, as I have been accustomed to do: 'O +best of men! seeing you are an Athenian, of a city the most +powerful and most renowned for wisdom and strength, are you not +ashamed of being careful for riches, how you may acquire them in +greatest abundance, and for glory, and honor, but care not nor take +any thought for wisdom and truth, and for your soul, how it maybe +made most perfect?'" And if any one of you should question my +assertion, and affirm that he does care for these things, I shall +not at once let him go, nor depart, but I shall question him, sift +and prove him. And if he should appear to me not to possess virtue, +but to pretend that he does, I shall reproach him for that he sets +the least value on things of the greatest worth, but the highest on +things that are worthless. Thus I shall act to all <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page32' id='page32'></a>whom I meet, both young +and old, stranger and citizen, but rather to you, my +fellow-citizens, because ye are more nearly allied to me. For be +well assured, this the deity commands. And I think that no greater +good has ever befallen you in the city than my zeal for the service +of the god. For I go about doing nothing else than persuading you, +both young and old, to take no care either for the body, or for +riches, prior to or so much as for the soul, how it may be made +most perfect, telling you that virtue does not spring from riches, +but riches and all other human blessings, both private and public, +from virtue. If, then, by saying these things, I corrupt the youth, +these things must be mischievous; but if any one says that I speak +other things than these, he misleads you.<a id="footnotetag4" name= +"footnotetag4" href="#footnote4"><sup>4</sup></a> Therefore I must +say, O Athenians! either yield to Anytus, or do not, either dismiss +me or not, since I shall not act otherwise, even though I must die +many deaths.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec18" name= +"apology_sec18">18</a>. Murmur not, O Athenians! but continue to +attend to my request, not to murmur at what I say, but to listen, +for, as I think, you will derive benefit from listening. For I am +going to say other things to you, at which, perhaps, you will raise +a clamor; but on no account do so. Be well assured, then, if you +put me to death, being such a man as I say I am, you will not +injure me more than yourselves. For neither will Melitus nor Anytus +harm me; nor have they the power; for I do not think that it is +possible for a better man to be injured by a worse. He may perhaps +have me condemned to death, or banished, or deprived of civil +rights; and he or others may perhaps consider these as mighty +evils; I, how ever, do not consider them so, but that it is much +more so to do what he is now doing, to endeavor to put a man to +death unjustly. Now, therefore, O Athenians! <a class='pagenumber' +name='page33' id='page33'></a>I am far from making a defense on my +behalf, as any one might think, but I do so on your own behalf, +lest by condemning me you should offend at all with respect to the +gift of the deity to you. For, if you should put me to death, you +will not easily find such another, though it may be ridiculous to +say so, altogether attached by the deity to this city as to a +powerful and generous horse, somewhat sluggish from his size, and +requiring to be roused by a gad-fly; so the deity appears to have +united me, being such a person as I am, to the city, that I may +rouse you, and persuade and reprove every one of you, nor ever +cease besetting you throughout the whole day. Such another man, O +Athenians! will not easily be found; therefore, if you will take my +advice, you will spare me. But you, perhaps, being irritated like +drowsy persons who are roused from sleep, will strike me, and, +yielding to Anytus, will unthinkingly condemn me to death; and then +you will pass the rest of your life in sleep, unless the deity, +caring for you, should send some one else to you. But that I am a +person who has been given by the deity to this city, you may +discern from hence; for it is not like the ordinary conduct of men, +that I should have neglected all my own affairs, and suffered my +private interest to be neglected for so many years, and that I +should constantly attend to your concerns, addressing myself to +each of you separately, like a father, or elder brother, persuading +you to the pursuit of virtue. And if I had derived any profit from +this course, and had received pay for my exhortations, there would +have been some reason for my conduct; but now you see yourselves +that my accusers, who have so shamelessly calumniated me in +everything else, have not had the impudence to charge me with this, +and to bring witnesses to prove that I ever either exacted or +demanded any reward. And I think I <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page34' id='page34'></a>produce a sufficient proof that I speak +the truth, namely, my poverty.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec19" name= +"apology_sec19">19</a>. Perhaps, however, it may appear absurd that +I, going about, thus advise you in private and make myself busy, +but never venture to present myself in public before your +assemblies and give advice to the city. The cause of this is that +which you have often and in many places heard me mention; because I +am moved by a certain divine and spiritual influence, which also +Melitus, through mockery, has set out in the indictment. This began +with me from childhood, being a kind of voice which, when present, +always diverts me from what I am about to do, but never urges me +on. This it is which opposed my meddling in public politics; and it +appears to me to have opposed me very properly. For be well +assured, O Athenians! if I had long since attempted to intermeddle +with politics, I should have perished long ago, and should not have +at all benefited you or myself. And be not angry with me for +speaking the truth. For it is not possible that any man should be +safe who sincerely opposes either you, or any other multitude, and +who prevents many unjust and illegal actions from being committed +in a city; but it is necessary that he who in earnest contends for +justice, if he will be safe for but a short time, should live +privately, and take no part in public affairs.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec20" name= +"apology_sec20">20</a>. I will give you strong proofs of this, not +words, but what you value, facts. Hear, then, what has happened to +me, that you may know that I would not yield to any one contrary to +what is just, through fear of death, at the same time by not +yielding I must perish. I shall tell you what will be displeasing +and wearisome,<a id="footnotetag5" name="footnotetag5" href= +"#footnote5"><sup>5</sup></a> yet true. For I, O <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page35' id='page35'></a>Athenians! never bore +any other magisterial office in the city, but have been a senator: +and our Antiochean tribe happened to supply the Prytanes when you +chose to condemn in a body the ten generals who had not taken off +those that perished in the sea-fight, in violation of the law, as +you afterward all thought. At that time I alone of the Prytanes +opposed your doing anything contrary to the laws, and I voted +against you; and when the orators were ready to denounce me, and to +carry me before a magistrate, and you urged and cheered them on, I +thought I ought rather to meet the danger with law and justice on +my side, than through fear of imprisonment or death, to take part +with you in your unjust designs. And this happened while the city +was governed by a democracy. But when it became an oligarchy, the +Thirty, having sent for me with four others to the Tholus, ordered +us to bring Leon the Salaminian from Salamis, that he might be put +to death; and they gave many similar orders to many others, wishing +to involve as many as they could in guilt. Then, however, I showed, +not in word but in deed, that I did not care for death, if the +expression be not too rude, in the smallest degree; but that all my +care was to do nothing unjust or unholy. For that government, +strong as it was, did not so overawe me as to make me commit an +unjust action; but when we came out from the Tholus, the four went +to Salamis, and brought back Leon; but I went away home. And +perhaps for this I should have been put to death, if that +government had not been speedily broken up. And of this you can +have many witnesses.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec21" name= +"apology_sec21">21</a>. Do you think, then, that I should have +survived so <a class='pagenumber' name='page36' id= +'page36'></a>many years if I had engaged in public affairs, and, +acting as becomes a good man, had aided the cause of justice, and, +as I ought, had deemed this of the highest importance? Far from it, +O Athenians! nor would any other man have done so. But I, through +the whole of my life, if I have done anything in public, shall be +found to be a man, and the very same in private, who has never made +a concession to any one contrary to justice, neither to any other, +nor to any one of these whom my calumniators say are my disciples. +I, however, was never the preceptor of any one; but if any one +desired to hear me speaking, and to see me busied about my own +mission, whether he were young or old, I never refused him. Nor do +I discourse when I receive money, and not when I do not receive +any, but I allow both rich and poor alike to question me, and, if +any one wishes it, to answer me and hear what I have to say. And +for these, whether any one proves to be a good man or not, I cannot +justly be responsible, because I never either promised them any +instruction or taught them at all. But if any one says that he has +ever learned or heard anything from me in private which all others +have not, be well assured that he does not speak the truth.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec22" name= +"apology_sec22">22</a>. But why do some delight to spend so long a +time with me? Ye have heard, O Athenians! I have told you the whole +truth, that they delight to hear those closely questioned who think +that they are wise but are not; for this is by no means +disagreeable. But this duty, as I say, has been enjoined me by the +deity, by oracles, by dreams, and by every mode by which any other +divine decree has ever enjoined anything to man to do. These +things, O Athenians! are both true, and easily confuted if not +true. For if I am now corrupting some of the youths, and have +already corrupted others, it were fitting, surely, that if any of +them, <a class='pagenumber' name='page37' id='page37'></a>having +become advanced in life, had discovered that I gave them bad advice +when they were young, they should now rise up against me, accuse +me, and have me punished; or if they were themselves unwilling to +do this, some of their kindred, their fathers, or brothers, or +other relatives, if their kinsman have ever sustained any damage +from me, should now call it to mind. Many of them, however, are +here present, whom I see: first, Crito, my contemporary and +fellow-burgher, father of this Critobulus; then Lysanias of +Sphettus, father of this Æschines; again, Antiphon of +Cephisus, father of Epigenes. There are those others, too, whose +brothers maintained the same intimacy with me, namely, Nicostratus, +son of Theodotus, brother of Theodotus—Theodotus indeed is +dead, so that he could not deprecate his brother's +proceedings—and Paralus here, son of Demodocus, whose brother +was Theages; and Adimantus, son of Ariston, whose brother is this +Plato; and Æantodorus, whose brother is this Apollodorus. I +could also mention many others to you, some one of whom certainly +Melitus ought to have adduced in his speech as a witness. If, +however, he then forgot to do so, let him now adduce them; I give +him leave to do so, and let him say it, if he has anything of the +kind to allege. But, quite contrary to this, you will find, O +Athenians! all ready to assist me, who have corrupted and injured +their relatives, as Melitus and Anytus say. For those who have been +themselves corrupted might perhaps have some reason for assisting +me; but those who have not been corrupted, men now advanced in +life, their relatives, what other reason can they have for +assisting me, except that right and just one, that they know that +Melitus speaks falsely, and that I speak the truth.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec23" name= +"apology_sec23">23</a>. Well, then, Athenians, these are pretty +much the things I have to say in my defense, and others perhaps of +<a class='pagenumber' name='page38' id='page38'></a>the same kind. +Perhaps, however, some among you will be indignant on recollecting +his own case, if he, when engaged in a cause far less than this, +implored and besought the judges with many tears, bringing forward +his children in order that he might excite their utmost compassion, +and many others of his relatives and friends, whereas I do none of +these things, although I may appear to be incurring the extremity +of danger. Perhaps, therefore, some one, taking notice of this, may +become more determined against me, and, being enraged at this very +conduct of mine, may give his vote under the influence of anger. +If, then, any one of you is thus affected—I do not, however, +suppose that there is—but if there should be, I think I may +reasonably say to him: "I, too, O best of men, have relatives; for, +to make use of that saying of Homer, I am not sprung from an oak, +nor from a rock, but from men, so that I, too, O Athenians! have +relatives, and three sons, one now grown up, and two boys: I shall +not, however, bring any one of them forward and implore you to +acquit me." Why, then, shall I not do this? Not from contumacy, O +Athenians! nor disrespect toward you. Whether or not I am undaunted +at the prospect of death is another question; but, out of regard to +my own character, and yours, and that of the whole city, it does +not appear to me to be honorable that I should do any thing of this +kind at my age, and with the reputation I have, whether true or +false. For it is commonly agreed that Socrates in some respects +excels the generality of men. If, then, those among you who appear +to excel either in wisdom, or fortitude, or any other virtue +whatsoever, should act in such a manner as I have often seen some +when they have been brought to trial, it would be shameful, who +appearing indeed to be something, have conducted themselves in a +surprising manner, as thinking they should suffer something <a +class='pagenumber' name='page39' id='page39'></a>dreadful by dying, +and as if they would be immortal if you did not put them to death. +Such men appear to me to bring disgrace on the city, so that any +stranger might suppose that such of the Athenians as excel in +virtue, and whom they themselves choose in preference to themselves +for magistracies and other honors, are in no respect superior to +women. For these things, O Athenians! neither ought we to do who +have attained to any height of reputation, nor, should we do them, +ought you to suffer us; but you should make this manifest, that you +will much rather condemn him who introduces these piteous dramas, +and makes the city ridiculous, than him who quietly awaits your +decision.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec24" name= +"apology_sec24">24</a>. But, reputation apart, O Athenians! it does +not appear to me to be right to entreat a judge, or to escape by +entreaty; but one ought to inform and persuade him. For a judge +does not sit for the purpose of administering justice out of favor, +but that he may judge rightly, and he is sworn not to show favor to +whom he pleases, but that he will decide according to the laws. It +is, therefore, right that neither should we accustom you, nor +should you accustom yourselves, to violate your oaths; for in so +doing neither of us would act righteously. Think not then, O +Athenians! that I ought to adopt such a course toward you as I +neither consider honorable, nor just, nor holy, as well, by +Jupiter! on any other occasion, and now especially when I am +accused of impiety by this Melitus. For clearly, if I should +persuade you, and by my entreaties should put a constraint on you +who are bound by an oath, I should teach you to think that there +are no gods, and in reality, while making my defense, should accuse +myself of not believing in the gods. This, however, is far from +being the case; for I believe, O Athenians! as none of my accusers +do, and I leave it to you and <a class='pagenumber' name='page40' +id='page40'></a>to the deity to judge concerning me in such way as +will be best both for me and for you.</p> + +<p>[Socrates here concludes his defense, and, the votes being +taken, he is declared guilty by a majority of voices. He thereupon +resumes his address.]</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec25" name= +"apology_sec25">25</a>. That I should not be grieved, O Athenians! +at what has happened—namely, that you have condemned +me—as well many other circumstances concur in bringing to +pass; and, moreover this, that what has happened has not happened +contrary to my expectation; but I much rather wonder at the number +of votes on either side. For I did not expect that I should be +condemned by so small a number, but by a large majority; but now, +as it seems, if only three more votes had changed sides, I should +have been acquitted. So far as Melitus is concerned, as it appears +to me, I have been already acquitted; and not only have I been +acquitted, but it is clear to every one that had not Anytus and +Lycon come forward to accuse me, he would have been fined a +thousand drachmas, for not having obtained a fifth part of the +votes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec26" name= +"apology_sec26">26</a>. The man, then, awards me the penalty of +death. Well. But what shall I, on my part, O Athenians! award +myself? Is it not clear that it will be such as I deserve? What, +then, is that? Do I deserve to suffer, or to pay a fine? for that I +have purposely during my life not remained quiet, but neglecting +what most men seek after, money-making, domestic concerns, military +command, popular oratory, and, moreover, all the magistracies, +conspiracies, and cabals that are met with in the city, thinking +that I was in reality too upright a man to be safe if I took part +in such things, I therefore did not apply myself to those pursuits, +by attending to which I should have been of no service either to +you or to myself; but in order to confer the greatest benefit on +each of you privately, as I affirm, I thereupon applied myself to +that <a class='pagenumber' name='page41' id='page41'></a>object, +endeavoring to persuade every one of you not to take any care of +his own affairs before he had taken care of himself in what way he +may become the best and wisest, nor of the affairs of the city +before he took care of the city itself; and that he should attend +to other things in the same manner. What treatment, then, do I +deserve, seeing I am such a man? Some reward, O Athenians! if, at +least, I am to be estimated according to my real deserts; and, +moreover, such a reward as would be suitable to me. What, then, is +suitable to a poor man, a benefactor, and who has need of leisure +in order to give you good advice? There is nothing so suitable, O +Athenians! as that such a man should be maintained in the +Prytaneum, and this much more than if one of you had been +victorious at the Olympic games in a horserace, or in the two or +four horsed chariot race: for such a one makes you appear to be +happy, but I, to be so; and he does not need support, but I do. If, +therefore, I must award a sentence according to my just deserts, I +award this, maintenance in the Prytaneum.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec27" name= +"apology_sec27">27</a>. Perhaps, however, in speaking to you thus, +I appear to you to speak in the same presumptuous manner as I did +respecting commiseration and entreaties; but such is not the case, +O Athenians! it is rather this: I am persuaded that I never +designedly injured any man, though I can not persuade you of this, +for we have conversed with each other but for a short time. For if +there were the same law with you as with other men, that in capital +cases the trial should list not only one day, but many, I think you +would be persuaded; but it is not easy in a short time to do away +with, great calumnies. Being persuaded, then, that I have injured +no one, I am far from intending to injure myself, and of +pronouncing against myself that I am deserving of punishment, and +from awarding myself any thing of the kind. <a class='pagenumber' +name='page42' id='page42'></a>Through fear of what? lest I should +suffer that which Melitus awards me, of which I say I know not +whether it he good or evil? Instead of this, shall I choose what I +well know to be evil, and award that? Shall I choose imprisonment? +And why should I live in prison, a slave to the established +magistracy, the Eleven? Shall I choose a fine, and to be imprisoned +until I have paid it? But this is the same as that which I just now +mentioned, for I have not money to pay it. Shall I, then, award +myself exile? For perhaps you would consent to this award. I should +indeed be very fond of life, O Athenians! if I were so devoid of +reason as not to be able to reflect that you, who are my +fellow-citizens, have been unable to endure my manner of life and +discourses, but they have become so burdensome and odious to you +that you now seek to be rid of them: others, however, will easily +bear them. Far from it, O Athenians! A fine life it would be for me +at my age to go out wandering, and driven from city to city, and so +to live. For I well know that, wherever I may go, the youth will +listen to me when I speak, as they do here. And if I repulse them, +they will themselves drive me out, persuading the elders; and if I +do not repulse them, their fathers and kindred will banish me on +their account.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec28" name= +"apology_sec28">28</a>. Perhaps, however, some one will say, Can +you not, Socrates, when you have gone from us, live a silent and +quiet life? This is the most difficult thing of all to persuade +some of you. For if I say that that would be to disobey the deity, +and that, therefore, it is impossible for me to live quietly, you +would not believe me, thinking I spoke ironically. If, on the other +hand, I say that this is the greatest good to man, to discourse +daily on virtue, and other things which you have heard me +discussing, examining both myself and others, but that a life +without investigation is <a class='pagenumber' name='page43' id= +'page43'></a>not worth living for, still less would you believe me +if I said this. Such, however, is the case, as I affirm, O +Athenians! though it is not easy to persuade you. And at the same +time I am not accustomed to think myself deserving of any ill. If, +indeed, I were rich, I would amerce myself in such a sum as I +should be able to pay; for then I should have suffered no harm, but +now—for I can not, unless you are willing to amerce me in +such a sum as I am able to pay. But perhaps I could pay you a mina +of silver: in that sum, then, I amerce myself. But Plato here, O +Athenians! and Crito Critobulus, and Apollodorus bid me amerce +myself in thirty minæ, and they offer to be sureties. I +amerce myself, then, to you in that sum; and they will be +sufficient sureties for the money.</p> + +<p>[The judges now proceeded to pass the sentence, and condemned +Socrates to death; whereupon he continued:]</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec29" name= +"apology_sec29">29</a>. For the sake of no long space of time, O +Athenians! you will incur the character and reproach at the hands +of those who wish to defame the city, of having put that wise man, +Socrates, to death. For those who wish to defame you will assert +that I am wise, though I am not. If, then, you had waited for a +short time, this would have happened of its own accord; for observe +my age, that it is far advanced in life, and near death. But I say +this not to you all, but to those only who have condemned me to +die. And I say this, too, to the same persons. Perhaps you think, O +Athenians! that I have been convicted through the want of +arguments, by which I might have persuaded you, had I thought it +right to do and say any thing, so that I might escape punishment. +Far otherwise: I have been convicted through want indeed, yet not +of arguments, but of audacity and impudence, and of the inclination +to say such things to you as would have been most agreeable for you +to hear, <a class='pagenumber' name='page44' id='page44'></a>had I +lamented and bewailed and done and said many other things unworthy +of me, as I affirm, but such as you are accustomed to hear from +others. But neither did I then think that I ought, for the sake of +avoiding danger, to do any thing unworthy of a freeman, nor do I +now repent of having so defended myself; but I should much rather +choose to die, having so defended myself, than to live in that way. +For neither in a trial nor in battle is it right that I or any one +else should employ every possible means whereby he may avoid death; +for in battle it is frequently evident that a man might escape +death by laying down his arms, and throwing himself on the mercy of +his pursuers. And there are many other devices in every danger, by +which to avoid death, if a man dares to do and say every thing. But +this is not difficult, O Athenians! to escape death; but it is much +more difficult to avoid depravity, for it runs swifter than death. +And now I, being slow and aged, am overtaken by the slower of the +two; but my accusers, being strong and active, have been overtaken +by the swifter, wickedness. And now I depart, condemned by you to +death; but they condemned by truth, as guilty of iniquity and +injustice: and I abide my sentence, and so do they. These things, +perhaps, ought so to be, and I think that they are for the +best.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec30" name= +"apology_sec30">30</a>. In the next place, I desire to predict to +you who have condemned me, what will be your fate; for I am now in +that condition in which men most frequently prophesy—namely, +when they are about to die. I say, then, to you, O Athenians! who +have condemned me to death, that immediately after my death a +punishment will overtake you, far more severe, by Jupiter! than +that which you have inflicted on me. For you have done this, +thinking you should be freed from the necessity of giving an +account of your lives. The very contrary, however, as I affirm, +will happen to you. <a class='pagenumber' name='page45' id= +'page45'></a>Your accusers will be more numerous, whom I have now +restrained, though you did not perceive it; and they will be more +severe, inasmuch as they are younger, and you will be more +indignant. For if you think that by putting men to death you will +restrain any one from upbraiding you because you do not live well, +you are much mistaken; for this method of escape is neither +possible nor honorable; but that other is most honorable and most +easy, not to put a check upon others, but for a man to take heed to +himself how he may be most perfect. Having predicted thus much to +those of you who have condemned me, I take my leave of you.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec31" name= +"apology_sec31">31</a>. But with you who have voted for my +acquittal I would gladly hold converse on what has now taken place, +while the magistrates are busy, and I am not yet carried to the +place where I must die. Stay with me, then, so long, O Athenians! +for nothing hinders our conversing with each other, while we are +permitted to do so; for I wish to make known to you, as being my +friends, the meaning of that which has just now befallen me. To me, +then, O my judges! and in calling you judges I call you +rightly—a strange thing has happened. For the wonted +prophetic voice of my guardian deity on every former occasion, even +in the most trifling affairs, opposed me if I was about to do any +thing wrong; but now that has befallen me which ye yourselves +behold, and which any one would think, and which is supposed to be +the extremity of evil; yet neither when I departed from home in the +morning did the warning of the god oppose me, nor when I came up +here to the place of trial, nor in my address when I was about to +say any thing; yet on other occasions it has frequently restrained +me in the midst of speaking. But now it has never, throughout this +proceeding, opposed me, either in what I did or said. What, then, +do I suppose to be the cause of this? I will tell you: what <a +class='pagenumber' name='page46' id='page46'></a>has befallen me +appears to be a blessing; and it is impossible that we think +rightly who suppose that death is an evil. A great proof of this to +me is the fact that it is impossible but that the accustomed signal +should have opposed me, unless I had been about to meet with some +good.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec32" name= +"apology_sec32">32</a>. Moreover, we may hence conclude that there +is great hope that death is a blessing. For to die is one of two +things: for either the dead may be annihilated, and have no +sensation of any thing whatever; or, as it is said, there are a +certain change and passage of the soul from one place to another. +And if it is a privation of all sensation, as it were a sleep in +which the sleeper has no dream, death would be a wonderful gain. +For I think that if any one, having selected a night in which he +slept so soundly as not to have had a dream, and having compared +this night with all the other nights and days of his life, should +be required, on consideration, to say how many days and nights he +had passed better and more pleasantly than this night throughout +his life, I think that not only a private person, but even the +great king himself, would find them easy to number, in comparison +with other days and nights. If, therefore, death is a thing of this +kind, I say it is a gain; for thus all futurity appears to be +nothing more than one night. But if, on the other hand, death is a +removal from hence to another place, and what is said be true, that +all the dead are there, what greater blessing can there be than +this, my judges? For if, on arriving at Hades, released from these +who pretend to be judges, one shall find those who are true judges, +and who are said to judge there, Minos and Rhadamanthus, +Æacus and Triptolemus, and such others of the demi-gods as +were just during their own life, would this be a sad removal? At +what price would you not estimate a conference with Orpheus and +Musæus, Hesiod <a class='pagenumber' name='page47' id= +'page47'></a>and Homer? I indeed should be willing to die often, if +this be true. For to me the sojourn there would be admirable, when +I should meet with Palamedes, and Ajax, son of Telamon, and any +other of the ancients who has died by an unjust sentence. The +comparing my sufferings with theirs would, I think, be no +unpleasing occupation. But the greatest pleasure would be to spend +my time in questioning and examining the people there as I have +done those here, and discovering who among them is wise, and who +fancies himself to be so, but is not. At what price, my judges, +would not any one estimate the opportunity of questioning him who +led that mighty army against Troy, or Ulysses, or Sisyphus, or ten +thousand others whom one might mention both men and +women—with whom to converse and associate, and to question +them, would be an inconceivable happiness? Surely for that the +judges there do not condemn to death; for in other respects those +who live there are more happy than those who are here, and are +henceforth immortal, if, at least, what is said be true.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec33" name= +"apology_sec33">33</a>. You, therefore, O my judges! ought to +entertain good hopes with respect to death, and to meditate on this +one truth, that to a good man nothing is evil, neither while living +nor when dead, nor are his concerns neglected by the gods. And what +has befallen me is not the effect of chance; but this is clear to +me, that now to die, and be freed from my cares is better for me On +this account the warning in no way turned me aside; and I bear no +resentment toward those who condemned me, or against my accusers, +although they did not condemn and accuse me with this intention, +but thinking to injure me: in this they deserve to be blamed.</p> + +<p>Thus much, however, I beg of them. Punish my sons when they grow +up, O judges! paining them as I have pained you, if they appear to +you to care for riches or anything <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page48' id='page48'></a>else before virtue; and if they think +themselves to be something when they are nothing, reproach them as +I have done you, for not attending to what they ought, and for +conceiving themselves to be something when they are worth nothing. +If ye do this, both I and my sons shall have met with just +treatment at your hands.</p> + +<p>But it is now time to depart—for me to die, for you to +live. But which of us is going to a better state is unknown to +every one but God.</p> + +<h3>Footnotes</h3> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote1" name="footnote1" href= +"#footnotetag1">1</a>: Aristophanes.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote2" name="footnote2" href= +"#footnotetag2">2</a>: "Iliad," lib. xviii. ver. 94, etc.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote3" name="footnote3" href= +"#footnotetag3">3</a>: See the "Crito," sec. <a href= +"#crito_sec5">5</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote4" name="footnote4" href= +"#footnotetag4">4</a>: <span class= +"greek">Ουδεν +λεγει</span>, literally, "he says +nothing:" <span class="french">on se trompe, ou l'on vous +impose</span>, <span class="emphasis">Cousin</span>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote5" name="footnote5" href= +"#footnotetag5">5</a>: But for the authority of Stallbaum, I should +have translated <span class= +"greek">δικανικα</span> +"forensic;" that is, such arguments as an advocate would use in a +court of justice.</div> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="introduction"><a name='introduction_to_the_crito' id= +'introduction_to_the_crito'></a><a class='pagenumber' name='page49' +id='page49'></a> + +<h2>Introduction To The Crito.</h2> + +<p>It has been remarked by Stallbaum that Plato had a twofold +design in this dialogue—one, and that the primary one, to +free Socrates from the imputation of having attempted to corrupt +the Athenian youth; the other, to establish the principle that +under all circumstances it is the duty of a good citizen to obey +the laws of his country. These two points, however, are so closely +interwoven with each other, that the general principle appears only +to be illustrated by the example of Socrates.</p> + +<p>Crito was one of those friends of Socrates who had been present +at his trial, and had offered to assist in paying a fine, had a +fine been imposed instead of the sentence of death. He appears to +have frequently visited his friend in prison after his +condemnation; and now, having obtained access to his cell very +early in the morning, finds him composed in a quiet sleep. He +brings intelligence that the ship, the arrival of which would be +the signal for his death on the following day, is expected to +arrive forthwith, and takes occasion to entreat Socrates to make +his escape, the means of which were already prepared. Socrates +thereupon, having promised to follow the advice of Crito if, after +the matter had been fully discussed, it should appear to be right +to do so, proposes to consider the duty of a citizen toward his +country; and having established the divine principle that it is +wrong to return evil for evil, goes on to show that the obligations +of a citizen to his country are even more binding <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page50' id='page50'></a>than those of a child to +its parent, or a slave to his master, and that therefore it is his +duty to obey the established laws, at whatever cost to himself.</p> + +<p>At length Crito admits that he has no answer to make, and +Socrates resolves to submit himself to the will of Providence.</p> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="book"><a name='crito_or_the_duty_of_a_citizen' id= +'crito_or_the_duty_of_a_citizen'></a><a class='pagenumber' name= +'page51' id='page51'></a> + +<h2>Crito;<br> + Or,<br> + The Duty Of A Citizen.</h2> + +<p>SOCRATES, CRITO.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec1" name= +"crito_sec1"></a><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Why have +you come at this hour, Crito? Is it not very early?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It is.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> About what time?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Scarce day-break.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> I wonder how the keeper +of the prison came to admit you.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> He is familiar with me, +Socrates, from my having frequently come hither; and he is under +some obligations to me.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Have you just now come, +or some time since?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> A considerable time +since.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Why, then, did you not +wake me at once, instead of sitting down by me in silence?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> By Jupiter! Socrates, I +should not myself like to be so long awake, and in such affliction. +But I have been for some time wondering at you, perceiving how +sweetly you slept; and I purposely did not awake you, that you +might pass your time as pleasantly as possible. And, indeed, I <a +class='pagenumber' name='page52' id='page52'></a>have often before +throughout your whole life considered you happy in your +disposition, but far more so in the present calamity, seeing how +easily and meekly you bear it.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> However, Crito, it would +be disconsonant for a man at my time of life to repine because he +must needs die.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> But others, Socrates, at +your age have been involved in similar calamities, yet their age +has not hindered their repining at their present fortune.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> So it is. But why did you +come so early?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Bringing sad tidings, +Socrates, not sad to you, as it appears, but to me, and all your +friends, sad and heavy, and which I, I think, shall bear worst of +all.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> What tidings? Has the +ship<a id="footnotetag6" name="footnotetag6" href= +"#footnote6"><sup>6</sup></a> arrived from Delos, on the arrival of +which I must die?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It has not yet arrived, +but it appears to me that it will come to-day, from what certain +persons report who have come from Sunium,<a id="footnotetag7" name= +"footnotetag7" href="#footnote7"><sup>7</sup></a> and left it +there. It is clear, therefore, from these messengers, that it will +come to day, and consequently it will be necessary, Socrates, for +you to die to-morrow.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec2" name= +"crito_sec2">2</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> But with +good fortune, Crito, and if so it please the gods, so be it. I do +not think, however, that it will come to day.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Whence do you form this +conjecture?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> I will tell you. I must +die on the day after that on which the ship arrives.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> So they say<a id= +"footnotetag8" name="footnotetag8" href= +"#footnote8"><sup>8</sup></a> who have the control of these +things.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> I do not think, then, +that it will come to-day, but to-morrow. I conjecture this from a +dream which I had <a class='pagenumber' name='page53' id= +'page53'></a>this very night, not long ago, and you seem very +opportunely to have refrained from waking me.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> But what was this +dream?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> A beautiful and majestic +woman, clad in white garments seemed to approach me, and to call to +me and say, "Socrates, three days hence you will reach fertile +Pythia"<a id="footnotetag9" name="footnotetag9" href= +"#footnote9"><sup>9</sup></a>.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> What a strange dream, +Socrates!</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Very clear, however, as +it appears to me, Crito.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec3" name= +"crito_sec3">3</a>. <span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Very much +so, as it seems. But, my dear Socrates, even now be persuaded by +me, and save yourself. For if you die, not only a single calamity +will befall me, but, besides being deprived of such a friend as I +shall never meet with again, I shall also appear to many who do not +know you and me well, when I might have saved you had I been +willing to spend my money, to have neglected to do so. And what +character can be more disgraceful than this—to appear to +value one's riches more than one's friends? For the generality of +men will not be persuaded that you were unwilling to depart hence, +when we urged you to it.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> But why, my dear Crito, +should we care so much for the opinion of the many? For the most +worthy men, whom we ought rather to regard, will think that matters +have transpired as they really have.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Yet you see, Socrates, +that it is necessary to attend to the opinion of the many. For the +very circumstances of the present case show that the multitude are +able to effect not only the smallest evils, but even the greatest, +if any one is calumniated to them.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Would, O Crito that the +multitude could effect the greatest evils, that they might also +effect the greatest good, for then it would be well. But now they +can do neither; <a class='pagenumber' name='page54' id= +'page54'></a>for they can make a man neither wise nor foolish; but +they do whatever chances.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec4" name= +"crito_sec4">4</a>. <span class="speakername">Cri.</span> So let it +be, then. But answer me this, Socrates: are you not anxious for me +and other friends, lest, if you should escape from hence, informers +should give us trouble, as having secretly carried you off, and so +we should be compelled either to lose all our property, or a very +large sum, or to suffer something else besides this? For, if you +fear any thing of the kind, dismiss your fears; for we are +justified in running the risk to save you—and, if need be, +even a greater risk than this. But be persuaded by me, and do not +refuse.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> I am anxious about this, +Crito, and about many other things.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Do not fear this, however; +for the sum is not large on receipt of which certain persons are +willing to save you, and take you hence. In the next place, do you +not see how cheap these informers are, so that there would be no +need of a large sum for them? My fortune is at your service, +sufficient, I think, for the purpose; then if, out of regard to me, +you do not think right to spend my money, these strangers here are +ready to spend theirs. One of them, Simmias the Theban, has brought +with him a sufficient sum for the very purpose. Cebes, too, is +ready, and very many others. So that, as I said, do not, through +fears of this kind, hesitate to save yourself, nor let what you +said in court give you any trouble, that if you went from hence you +would not know what to do with yourself. For in many places, and +wherever you go, men will love you; and if you are disposed to go +to Thessaly, I have friends there who will esteem you very highly, +and will insure your safety, so that no one in Thessaly will molest +you.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec5" name= +"crito_sec5">5</a>. Moreover, Socrates, you do not appear to me to +pursue <a class='pagenumber' name='page55' id='page55'></a>a just +course in giving yourself up when you might be saved; and you press +on the very results with respect to yourself which your enemies +would press, and have pressed, in their anxiety to destroy you. +Besides this, too, you appear to me to betray your own sons, whom, +when it is in your power to rear and educate them, you will +abandon, and, so far as you are concerned, they will meet with such +a fate as chance brings them, and, as is probable, they will meet +with such things as orphans are wont to experience in a state of +orphanage. Surely one ought not to have children, or one should go +through the toil of rearing and instructing them. But you appear to +me to have chosen the most indolent course; though you ought to +have chosen such a course as a good and brave man would have done, +since you profess to have made virtue your study through the whole +of your life; so that I am ashamed both for you and for us who are +your friends, lest this whole affair of yours should seem to be the +effect of cowardice on our part—your appearing to stand your +trial in the court, since you appeared when it was in your power +not to have done so, the very manner in which the trial was +conducted, and this last circumstance, as it were, a ridiculous +consummation of the whole business; your appearing to have escaped +from us through our indolence and cowardice, who did not save you; +nor did you save yourself, when it was practicable and possible, +had we but exerted ourselves a little. Think of these things, +therefore, Socrates, and beware, lest, besides the evil <span +class="emphasis">that will result</span>, they be disgraceful both +to you and to us; advise, then, with yourself; though, indeed, +there is no longer time for advising—your resolve should be +already made. And there is but one plan; for in the following night +the whole must be accomplished. If we delay, it will be impossible +and no longer practicable. By all means, <a class='pagenumber' +name='page56' id='page56'></a>therefore, Socrates, be persuaded by +me, and on no account refuse.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec6" name= +"crito_sec6">6</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> My dear +Crito, your zeal would be very commendable were it united with +right principle; otherwise, by how much the more earnest it is, by +so much is it the more sad. We must consider, therefore, whether +this plan should be adopted or not. For I not now only, but always, +am a person who will obey nothing within me but reason, according +as it appears to me on mature deliberation to be best. And the +reasons which I formerly professed I can not now reject, because +this misfortune has befallen me; but they appear to me in much the +same light, and I respect and honor them as before; so that if we +are unable to adduce any better at the present time, be assured +that I shall not give in to you, even though the power of the +multitude should endeavor to terrify us like children, by +threatening more than it does now, bonds and death, and +confiscation of property. How, therefore, may we consider the +matter most conveniently? First of all, if we recur to the argument +which you used about opinions, whether on former occasions it was +rightly resolved or not, that we ought to pay attention to some +opinions, and to others not; or whether, before it was necessary +that I should die, it was rightly resolved; but now it has become +clear that it was said idly for argument's sake, though in reality +it was merely jest and trifling. I desire then, Crito, to consider, +in common with you, whether it will appear to me in a different +light, now that I am in this condition, or the same, and whether we +shall give it up or yield to it. It was said, I think, on former +occasions, by those who were thought to speak seriously, as I just +now observed, that of the opinions which men entertain some should +be very highly esteemed and others not. By the gods! Crito, does +not this appear to you to be well said? For you, <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page57' id='page57'></a>in all human +probability, are out of all danger of dying to-morrow, and the +present calamity will not lead your judgment astray. Consider, +then; does it not appear to you to have been rightly settled that +we ought not to respect all the opinions of men, but some we +should, and others not? Nor yet the opinions of all men, but of +some we should, and of others not? What say you? Is not this +rightly resolved?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It is.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Therefore we should +respect the good, but not the bad?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Yes.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> And are not the good +those of the wise, and the bad those of the foolish?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> How can it be +otherwise?</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec7" name= +"crito_sec7">7</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Come, +then: how, again, were the following points settled? Does a man who +practices gymnastic exercises and applies himself to them, pay +attention to the praise and censure and opinion of every one, or of +that one man only who happens to be a physician, or teacher of the +exercises?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Of that one only.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> He ought, therefore, to +fear the censures and covet the praises of that one, but not those +of the multitude.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Clearly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> He ought, therefore, so +to practice and exercise himself, and to eat and drink, as seems +fitting to the one who presides and knows, rather than to all +others together.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It is so.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Well, then, if he +disobeys the one, and disregards his opinion and praise, but +respects that of the multitude and of those who know nothing, will +he not suffer some evil?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> How should he not?</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page58' id='page58'></a><span class= +"speakername">Socr.</span> But what is this evil? Whither does it +tend, and on what part of him that disobeys will it fall?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Clearly on his body, for +this it ruins.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> You say well. The case is +the same, too, Crito, with all other things, not to go through them +all. With respect then, to things just and unjust, base and +honorable, good and evil, about which we are now consulting, ought +we to follow the opinion of the multitude, and to respect it, or +that of one, if there is any one who understands, whom we ought to +reverence and respect rather than all others together? And if we do +not obey him, shall we not corrupt and injure that part of +ourselves which becomes better by justice, but is ruined by +injustice? Or is this nothing?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> I agree with you, +Socrates.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec8" name= +"crito_sec8">8</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Come, +then, if we destroy that which becomes better by what is wholesome, +but is impaired by what is unwholesome, through being persuaded by +those who do not understand, can we enjoy life when that is +impaired? And this is the body we are speaking of, is it not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Yes.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Can we, then, enjoy life +with a diseased and impaired body?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> By no means.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> But can we enjoy life +when that is impaired which injustice ruins but justice benefits? +Or do we think that to be of less value than the body, whatever +part of us it may be, about which injustice and justice are +concerned'</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> By no means.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> But of more value?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Much more.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> We must not then, my +excellent friend, so much regard what the multitude will say of us, +but what he will say who understands the just and the unjust, the +one, even <a class='pagenumber' name='page59' id='page59'></a>truth +itself. So that at first you did not set out with a right +principle, when you laid it down that we ought to regard the +opinion of the multitude with respect to things just and honorable +and good, and their contraries. How ever, some one may say, are not +the multitude able to put us to death?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> This, too, is clear, +Socrates, any one might say so.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> You say truly. But, my +admirable friend, this principle which we have just discussed +appears to me to be the same as it was before<a id="footnotetag10" +name="footnotetag10" href="#footnote10"><sup>10</sup></a>. And +consider this, moreover, whether it still holds good with us or +not, that we are not to be anxious about living but about living +well.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It does hold good.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> And does this hold good +or not, that to live well and Honorable and justly are the same +thing?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It does.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec9" name= +"crito_sec9">9</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> From +what has been admitted, then, this consideration arises, whether it +is just or not that I should endeavor to leave this place without +the permission of the Athenians. And should it appear to be just, +we will make the attempt, but if not, we will give it up. But as to +the considerations which you mention, of an outlay of money, +reputation, and the education of children, beware, Crito, lest such +considerations as these in reality belong to these multitudes, who +rashly put one to death, and would restore one to life, if they +could do so, without any reason at all. But we, since reason so +requires, must consider nothing else than what we just now +mentioned, whether we shall act justly in paying money and +contracting obligations to those <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page60' id='page60'></a>who will lead me hence, as well they who +lead me as we who are led hence, or whether, in truth, we shall not +act unjustly in doing all these things. And if we should appear in +so doing to be acting unjustly, observe that we must not consider +whether from remaining here and continuing quiet we must needs die, +or suffer any thing else, rather than whether we shall be acting +unjustly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> You appear to me to speak +wisely, Socrates, but see what we are to do.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Let us consider the +matter together, my friend, and if you have any thing to object to +what I say, make good your objection, and I will yield to you, but +if not, cease, my excellent friend, to urge upon me the same thing +so often, that I ought to depart hence against the will of the +Athenians. For I highly esteem your endeavors to persuade me thus +to act, so long as it is not against my will Consider, then, the +beginning of our inquiry, whether it is stated to your entire +satisfaction, and endeavor to answer the question put to you +exactly as you think right.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> I will endeavor to do +so.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec10" name= +"crito_sec10">10</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Say +we, then, that we should on no account deliberately commit +injustice, or may we commit injustice under certain circumstances, +under others not? Or is it on no account either good or honorable +to commit injustice, as we have often agreed on former occasions, +and as we just now said? Or have all those our former admissions +been dissipated in these few days, and have we, Crito, old men as +we are, been for a long time seriously conversing with each other +without knowing that we in no respect differ from children? Or does +the case, beyond all question, stand as we then determined? Whether +the multitude allow it or not, and whether we must suffer a more +severe or a milder punishment than this, still is injustice on +every account <a class='pagenumber' name='page61' id= +'page61'></a>both evil and disgraceful to him who commits it? Do we +admit this, or not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> We do admit it.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> On no account, therefore, +ought we to act unjustly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Surely not.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Neither ought one who is +injured to return the injury, as the multitude think, since it is +on no account right to act unjustly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It appears not.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> What, then? Is it right +to do evil, Crito, or not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Surely it is not right, +Socrates.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> But what? To do evil in +return when one has been evil-entreated, is that right, or not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> By no means.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> For to do evil to men +differs in no respect from committing injustice.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> You say truly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> It is not right, +therefore, to return an injury, or to do evil to any man, however +one may have suffered from him. But take care, Crito, that in +allowing these things you do not allow them contrary to your +opinion, for I know that to some few only these things both do +appear, and will appear, to be true. They, then, to whom these +things appear true, and they to whom they do not, have no sentiment +in common, and must needs despise each other, while they look to +each other's opinions. Consider well, then, whether you coincide +and think with me, and whether we can begin our deliberations from +this point—that it is never right either to do an injury or +to return an injury, or when one has been evil-entreated, to +revenge one's self by doing evil in return, or do you dissent from, +and not coincide in this principle? For so it appears to me, both +long since and now, but if you in any respect think otherwise, say +so and <a class='pagenumber' name='page62' id='page62'></a>inform +me. But if you persist in your former opinions, hear what +follows.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> I do persist in them, and +think with you. Speak on, then.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> I say next, then, or +rather I ask; whether when a man has promised to do things that are +just he ought to do them, or evade his promise?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> He ought to do them.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec11" name= +"crito_sec11">11</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> +Observe, then, what follows. By departing hence without the leave +of the city, are we not doing evil to some, and that to those to +whom we ought least of all to do it, or not? And do we abide by +what we agreed on as being just, or do we not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> I am unable to answer your +question, Socrates; for I do not understand it.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Then, consider it thus. +If, while we were preparing to run away, or by whatever name we +should call it, the laws and commonwealth should come, and, +presenting themselves before us, should say, "Tell me, Socrates, +what do you purpose doing? Do you design any thing else by this +proceeding in which you are engaged than to destroy us, the laws, +and the whole city, so far as you are able? Or do you think it +possible for that city any longer to subsist, and not be subverted, +in which judgments that are passed have no force, but are set aside +and destroyed by private persons?"—what should we say, Crito, +to these and similar remonstrances? For any one, especially an +orator, would have much to say on the violation of the law, which +enjoins that judgments passed shall be enforced. Shall we say to +them that the city has done us an injustice, and not passed a right +sentence? Shall we say this, or what else?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> This, by Jupiter! +Socrates.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec12" name= +"crito_sec12">12</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> What, +then, if the laws should say, "Socrates, <a class='pagenumber' +name='page63' id='page63'></a>was it not agreed between us that you +should abide by the judgments which the city should pronounce?" And +if we should wonder at their speaking thus, perhaps they would say, +"Wonder not, Socrates, at what we say, but answer, since you are +accustomed to make use of questions and answers. For, come, what +charge have you against us and the city, that you attempt to +destroy us? Did we not first give you being? and did not your +father, through us, take your mother to wife and beget you? Say, +then, do you find fault with those laws among us that relate to +marriage as being bad?" I should say, "I do not find fault with +them." "Do you with those that relate to your nurture when born, +and the education with which you were instructed? Or did not the +laws, ordained on this point, enjoin rightly, in requiring your +father to instruct you in music and gymnastic exercises?" I should +say, rightly. Well, then, since you were born, nurtured, and +educated through our means, can you say, first of all, that you are +not both our offspring and our slave, as well you as your +ancestors? And if this be so, do you think that there are equal +rights between us? and whatever we attempt to do to you, do you +think you may justly do to us in turn? Or had you not equal rights +with your father, or master, if you happened to have one, so as to +return what you suffered, neither to retort when found fault with, +nor, when stricken, to strike again, nor many other things of the +kind; but that with your country and the laws you may do so; so +that if we attempt to destroy you, thinking it to be just, you also +should endeavor, so far as you are able, in return, to destroy us, +the laws, and your country; and in doing this will you say that you +act justly—you who, in reality, make virtue your chief +object? Or are you so wise as not to know that one's country is +more honorable, venerable, and sacred, and more highly prized both +by <a class='pagenumber' name='page64' id='page64'></a>gods, and +men possessed of understanding, than mother and father, and all +other progenitors; and that one ought to reverence, submit to, and +appease one's country, when angry, rather than one's father; and +either persuade it or do what it orders, and to suffer quietly if +it bids one suffer, whether to be beaten, or put in bonds; or if it +sends one out to battle there to be wounded or slain, this must be +done; for justice so requires, and one must not give way, or +retreat, or leave one's post; but that both in war and in a court +of justice, and everywhere one must do what one's city and country +enjoin, or persuade it in such manner as justice allows; but that +to offer violence either to one's mother or father is not holy, +much less to one's country? What shall we say to these things, +Crito? That the laws speak the truth, or not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It seems so to me.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec13" name= +"crito_sec13">13</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> +"Consider, then, Socrates," the laws perhaps might say, "whether we +say truly that in what you are now attempting you are attempting to +do what is not just toward us. For we, having given you birth, +nurtured, instructed you, and having imparted to you and all other +citizens all the good in our power, still proclaim, by giving the +power to every Athenian who pleases, when he has arrived at years +of discretion, and become acquainted with the business of the +state, and us, the laws, that any one who is not satisfied with us +may take his property, and go wherever he pleases. And if any one +of you wishes to go to a colony, if he is not satisfied with us and +the city, or to migrate and settle in another country, none of us, +the laws, hinder or forbid him going whithersoever he pleases, +taking with him all his property. But whoever continues with us +after he has seen the manner in which we administer justice, and in +other respects govern the city, we now say that <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page65' id='page65'></a>he has in fact entered +into a compact with us to do what we order; and we affirm that he +who does not obey is in three respects guilty of +injustice—because he does not obey us who gave him being, and +because he does not obey us who nurtured him, and because, having +made a compact that he would obey us, he neither does so, nor does +he persuade us if we do any thing wrongly; though we propose for +his consideration, and do not rigidly command him to do what we +order, but leave him the choice of one of two things, either to +persuade us, or to do what we require, and yet he does neither of +these."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec14" name= +"crito_sec14">14</a>. "And we say that you, O Socrates! will be +subject to these charges if you accomplish your design, and that +not least of the Athenians, but most so of all." And if I should +ask, "For what reason?" they would probably justly retort on me by +saying that, among all the Athenians, I especially made this +compact with them. For they would say, "Socrates, we have strong +proof of this, that you were satisfied both with us and the city; +for, of all the Athenians, you especially would never have dwelt in +it if it had not been especially agreeable to you; for you never +went out of the city to any of the public spectacles, except once +to the Isthmian games, nor anywhere else, except on military +service, nor have you ever gone abroad as other men do, nor had you +ever had any desire to become acquainted with any other city or +other laws, but we and our city were sufficient for you; so +strongly were you attached to us, and so far did you consent to +submit to our government, both in other respects and in begetting +children in this city, in consequence of your being satisfied with +it. Moreover, in your very trial, it was in your power to have +imposed on yourself a sentence of exile, if you pleased, and might +then have done, with the consent of the city, <a class='pagenumber' +name='page66' id='page66'></a>what you now attempt against its +consent. Then, indeed, you boasted yourself as not being grieved if +you must needs die; but you preferred, as you said, death to exile. +Now, however, you are neither ashamed of those professions, nor do +you revere us, the laws, since you endeavor to destroy us, and you +act as the vilest slave would act, by endeavoring to make your +escape contrary to the conventions and the compacts by which you +engaged to submit to our government. First, then, therefore, answer +us this, whether we speak the truth or not in affirming that you +agreed to be governed by us in deed, though not in word?" What +shall we say to this, Crito? Can we do otherwise than assent?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> We must needs do so, +Socrates.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> "What else, then," they +will say, "are you doing but violating the conventions and compacts +which you made with us, though you did not enter into them from +compulsion or through deception, or from being compelled to +determine in a short time but during the space of seventy years, in +which you might have departed if you had been dissatisfied with us, +and the compacts had not appeared to you to be just? You, however, +preferred neither Lacedæmon nor Crete, which you several +times said are governed by good laws, nor any other of the Grecian +or barbarian cities; but you have been less out of Athens than the +lame and the blind, and other maimed persons. So much, it is +evident, were you satisfied with the city and us, the laws, beyond +the rest of the Athenians; for who can be satisfied with a city +without laws? But now will you not abide by your compacts? You +will, if you are persuaded by us, Socrates, and will not make +yourself ridiculous by leaving the city."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec15" name= +"crito_sec15">15</a>. "For consider, by violating these compacts +and offending against any of them, what good you will do to <a +class='pagenumber' name='page67' id='page67'></a>yourself or your +friends. For that your friends will run the risk of being +themselves banished, and deprived of the rights of citizenship, or +of forfeiting their property, is pretty clear. And as for yourself, +if you should go to one of the neighboring cities, either Thebes or +Megara, for both are governed by good laws, you will go there, +Socrates, as an enemy to their polity; and such as have any regard +for their country will look upon you with suspicion, regarding you +as a corrupter of the laws; and you will confirm the opinion of the +judges, so that they will appear to have condemned you rightly, for +whose is a corrupter of the laws will appear in all likelihood to +be a corrupter of youths and weak-minded men. Will you, then, avoid +these well-governed cities, and the best-ordered men? And should +you do so, will it be worth your while to live? Or will you +approach them, and have the effrontery to converse with them, +Socrates, on subjects the same as you did here—that virtue +and justice, legal institutions and laws, should be most highly +valued by men? And do you not think that this conduct of Socrates +would be very indecorous? You must think so. But you will keep +clear of these places, and go to Thessaly, to Crito's friends, for +there are the greatest disorder and licentiousness; and perhaps +they will gladly hear you relating how drolly you escaped from +prison, clad in some dress or covered with a skin, or in some other +disguise such as fugitives are wont to dress themselves in, having +so changed your usual appearance. And will no one say that you, +though an old man, with but a short time to live, in all +probability, have dared to have such a base desire of life as to +violate the most sacred laws? Perhaps not, should you not offend +any one. But if you should, you will hear, Socrates, many things +utterly unworthy of you. You will live, too, in a state of abject +<a class='pagenumber' name='page68' id='page68'></a>dependence on +all men, and as their slave. But what will you do in Thessaly +besides feasting, as if you had gone to Thessaly to a banquet? And +what will become of those discourses about justice and all other +virtues? But do you wish to live for the sake of your children, +that you may rear and educate them? What then? Will you take them +to Thessaly, and there rear and educate them, making them aliens to +their country, that they may owe you this obligation too? Or, if +not so, being reared here, will they be better reared and educated +while you are living, though not with them, for your friends will +take care of them? Whether, if you go to Thessaly, will they take +care of them, but if you go to Hades will they not take care of +them? If, however, any advantage is to be derived from those that +say they are your friends, we must think they will."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec16" name= +"crito_sec16">16</a>. "Then, O Socrates! be persuaded by us who +have nurtured you, and do not set a higher value on your children, +or on life, or on any thing else than justice, that, when you +arrive in Hades, you may have all this to say in your defense +before those who have dominion there. For neither here in this +life, if you do what is proposed, does it appear to be better, or +more just, or more holy to yourself, or any of your friends; nor +will it be better for you when you arrive there. But now you +depart, if you do depart, unjustly treated, not by us, the laws, +but by men; but should you escape, having thus disgracefully +returned injury for injury, and evil for evil, having violated your +own compacts and conventions which you made with us, and having +done evil to those to whom you least of all should have done +it—namely, yourself, your friends, your country, and +us—both we shall be indignant with you as long as you live, +and there our brothers, the laws in Hades, will not receive you +favorably knowing that you attempted, so far as you <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page69' id='page69'></a>were able, to destroy +us. Let not Crito, then, persuade you to do what he advises, rather +than we."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec17" name= +"crito_sec17">17</a>. These things, my dear friend Crito, be +assured, I seem to hear as the votaries of Cybele<a id= +"footnotetag11" name="footnotetag11" href= +"#footnote11"><sup>11</sup></a> seem to hear the flutes. And the +sound of these words booms in my ear, and makes me incapable of +hearing any thing else. Be sure, then, so long as I retain my +present opinions, if you should say any thing contrary to these, +you will speak in vain. If, however, you think that you can prevail +at all, say on.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> But, Socrates, I have +nothing to say.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Desist, then, Crito, and +let us pursue this course, since this way the deity leads us.</p> + +<h3>Footnotes</h3> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote6" name="footnote6" href= +"#footnotetag6">6</a>: See the Phædo sec <a href= +"#phaedo_sec1">1</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote7" name="footnote7" href= +"#footnotetag7">7</a>: A promontory at the southern extremity of +Attica</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote8" name="footnote8" href= +"#footnotetag8">8</a>: The Eleven</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote9" name="footnote9" href= +"#footnotetag9">9</a>: See Homer's "Iliad," 1 IX, v 363</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote10" name="footnote10" href= +"#footnotetag10">10</a>: That is to say, the principle which we had +laid down in former discussions that no regard is to be had to +popular opinion, is still found to hold good.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote11" name="footnote11" href= +"#footnotetag11">11</a>: The Corybantes, priests of Cybele, who in +their solemn festivals made such a noise with flutes that the +hearers could hear no other sound.</div> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="introduction"><a name='introduction_to_the_phaedo' id= +'introduction_to_the_phaedo'></a><a class='pagenumber' name= +'page70' id='page70'></a> + +<h2>Introduction To The Phædo.</h2> + +<p>This dialogue presents us with an account of the manner In which +Socrates spent the last day of his, life, and how he met his death. +The main subject is that of the soul's immortality, which Socrates +takes upon himself to prove with as much certainty as it is +possible for the human mind to arrive at. The question itself, +though none could be better suited to the occasion, arises simply +and naturally from the general conversation that precedes it.</p> + +<p>When his friends visit him in the morning for the purpose of +spending this his last day with him, they find him sitting up in +bed, and rubbing his leg, which had just been freed from bonds. He +remarks on the unaccountable alternation and connection between +pleasure and pain, and adds that Æsop, had he observed it, +would have made a fable from it. This remark reminds Cebes of +Socrates's having put some of Æsop's fables into metre since +his imprisonment, and he asks, for the satisfaction of the poet +Evenus, what has induced him to do so. Socrates explains his +reason, and concludes by bidding him tell Evenus to follow him as +soon as he can. Simmias expresses his surprise at this message, on +which Socrates asks, "Is not Evenus a philosopher?" and on the +question being answered in the affirmative, he says that he or any +philosopher would be willing to die, though perhaps he would not +commit violence on himself. This, again, seems a contradiction to +Simmias; but Socrates explains it by showing that our souls <a +class='pagenumber' name='page71' id='page71'></a>are placed in the +body by God, and may not leave it without his permission. Whereupon +Cebes objects that in that case foolish men only would wish to die, +and quit the service of the best of masters, to which Simmias +agrees. Socrates, therefore, proposes to plead his cause before +them, and to show that there is a great probability that after this +life he shall go into the presence of God and good men, and be +happy in proportion to the purity of his own mind.</p> + +<p>He begins<a id="footnotetag12" name="footnotetag12" href= +"#footnote12"><sup>12</sup></a> by stating that philosophy itself +is nothing else than a preparation for and meditation on death. +Death and philosophy have this in common: death separates the soul +from the body; philosophy draws off the mind from bodily things to +the contemplation of truth and virtue: for he is not a true +philosopher who is led away by bodily pleasures, since the senses +are the source of ignorance and all evil. The mind, therefore, is +entirely occupied in meditating on death, and freeing itself as +much as possible from the body. How, then, can such a man be afraid +of death? He who grieves at the approach of death can not be a true +lover of wisdom, but is a lover of his body. And, indeed, most men +are temperate through intemperance; that is to say, they abstain +from some pleasures that they may the more easily and permanently +enjoy others. They embrace only a shadow of virtue, not virtue +itself, since they estimate the value of all things by the +pleasures they afford. Whereas the philosopher purifies his mind +from all such things, and pursues virtue and wisdom for their own +sakes. This course Socrates himself has pursued to the utmost of +his ability, with what success he should shortly know; and on these +grounds he did not repine at leaving his friends in this world, +being persuaded that in another he should meet with good masters +and good friends.</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page72' id='page72'></a>Upon this +Cebes<a id="footnotetag13" name="footnotetag13" href= +"#footnote13"><sup>13</sup></a> says that he agrees with all else +that had been said, but can not help entertaining doubts of what +will become of the soul when separated from the body, for the +common opinion is that it is dispersed and vanishes like breath or +smoke, and no longer exists anywhere. Socrates, therefore, proposes +to inquire into the probability of the case, a fit employment for +him under his present circumstances.</p> + +<p>His first argument<a id="footnotetag14" name="footnotetag14" +href="#footnote14"><sup>14</sup></a> is drawn from the ancient +belief prevalent among men, that souls departing hence exist in +Hades, and are produced again from the dead. If this be true, it +must follow that our souls are there, for they could not be +produced again if they did not exist; and its truth is confirmed by +this, that it is a general law of nature that contraries are +produced from contraries—the greater from the less, strong +from weak, slow from swift, heat from cold, and in like manner life +from death, and vice versa. To explain this more clearly, he +proceeds to show that what is changed passes from one state to +another, and so undergoes three different states—first, the +actual state; then the transition; and, thirdly, the new state; as +from a state of sleep, by awaking to being awake. In like manner +birth is a transition from a state of death to life, and dying from +life to death; so that the soul, by the act of dying, only passes +to another state. If it were not so, all nature would in time +become dead, just as if people did not awake out of sleep all would +at last be buried in eternal sleep. Whence the conclusion is that +the souls of men are not annihilated by death.</p> + +<p>Cebes<a id="footnotetag15" name="footnotetag15" href= +"#footnote15"><sup>15</sup></a> agrees to this reasoning, and adds +that he is further convinced, of its truth by calling to mind an +argument used by Socrates on former occasions, that knowledge is <a +class='pagenumber' name='page73' id='page73'></a>nothing but +reminiscence; and if this is so, the soul must have existed, and +had knowledge, before it became united to the body.</p> + +<p>But in case Simmias should not yet be satisfied, Socrates<a id= +"footnotetag16" name="footnotetag16" href= +"#footnote16"><sup>16</sup></a> proceeds to enlarge on this, his +second argument, drawn from reminiscence. We daily find that we are +carried from the knowledge of one thing to another. Things +perceived by the eyes, ears, and other senses bring up the thought +of other things; thus the sight of a lyre or a garment reminds us +of a friend, and not only are we thus reminded of sensible objects, +but of things which are comprehended by the mind alone, and have no +sensitive existence. For we have formed in our minds an idea of +abstract equality, of the beautiful, the just, the good; in short, +of every thing which we say exists without the aid of the senses, +for we use them only in the perception of individual things; whence +it follows that the mind did not acquire this knowledge in this +life, but must have had it before, and therefore the soul must have +existed before.</p> + +<p>Simmias and Cebes<a id="footnotetag17" name="footnotetag17" +href="#footnote17"><sup>17</sup></a> both agree in admitting that +Socrates has proved the pre-existence of the soul, but insist that +he has not shown it to be immortal, for that nothing hinders but +that, according to the popular opinion, it may be dispersed at the +dissolution of the body. To which Socrates replies, that if their +former admissions are joined to his last argument, the immortality, +as well as the pre-existence, of the soul has been sufficiently +proved. For if it is true that any thing living is produced from +that which is dead, then the soul must exist after death, otherwise +it could not be produced again.</p> + +<p>However, to remove the apprehension that the soul may be +dispersed by a wind, as it were, Socrates proceeds, in his <a +class='pagenumber' name='page74' id='page74'></a>third argument,<a +id="footnotetag18" name="footnotetag18" href= +"#footnote18"><sup>18</sup></a> to examine that doubt more +thoroughly. What, then, is meant by being dispersed but being +dissolved into its parts? In order, therefore, to a thing being +capable of dispersion it must be compounded of parts. Now, there +are two kinds of things—one compounded, the other simple The +former kind is subject to change, the latter not, and can be +comprehended by the mind alone. The one is visible, the other +invisible; and the soul, which is invisible, when it employs the +bodily senses, wanders and is confused, but when it abstracts +itself from the body it attains to the knowledge of that which is +eternal, immortal, and unchangeable. The soul, therefore, being +uncompounded and invisible, must be indissoluble; that is to say, +immortal.</p> + +<p>Still Simmias and Cebes<a id="footnotetag19" name= +"footnotetag19" href="#footnote19"><sup>19</sup></a> are +unconvinced. The former objects that the soul, according to +Socrates's own showing, is nothing but a harmony resulting from a +combination of the parts of the body, and so may perish with the +body, as the harmony of a lyre does when the lyre itself is broken. +And Cebes, though he admits that the soul is more durable than the +body, yet objects that it is not, therefore, of necessity immortal, +but may in time wear out; and it is by no means clear that this is +not its last period.</p> + +<p>These objections produce a powerful effect on the rest of the +company; but Socrates, undismayed, exhorts them not to suffer +themselves to be deterred from seeking the truth by any +difficulties they may meet with; and then proceeds<a id= +"footnotetag20" name="footnotetag20" href= +"#footnote20"><sup>20</sup></a> to show, in a moment, the fallacy +of Simmias's objection. It was before admitted, he says, that the +soul existed before the body; but harmony is produced after the +lyre is formed, so that the two cases are totally different. And, +further, there are various degrees of harmony, but every soul is as +much a soul as any other. But, then, what will a person <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page75' id='page75'></a>who holds this doctrine, +that the soul is harmony, say of virtue and vice in the soul? Will +he call them another kind of harmony and discord? If so, he will +contradict himself; for it is admitted that one soul is not more or +less a soul than another, and therefore one can not he more or less +harmonized than another, and one could not admit of a greater +degree of virtue or vice than another; and indeed a soul, being +harmony, could not partake of vice at all, which is discord.</p> + +<p>Socrates, having thus satisfactorily answered the argument +adduced by Simmias, goes on to rebut that of Cebes,<a id= +"footnotetag21" name="footnotetag21" href= +"#footnote21"><sup>21</sup></a> who objected that the soul might in +time wear out. In order to do this, he relates that, when a young +man, he attempted to investigate the causes of all things, why they +exist and why they perish; and in the course of his researches, +finding the futility of attributing the existence of things to what +are called natural causes, he resolved on endeavoring to find out +the reasons of things. He therefore assumed that there are a +certain abstract beauty and goodness and magnitude, and so of all +other things; the truth of which being granted, he thinks he shall +be able to prove that the soul is immortal.</p> + +<p>This, then, being conceded by Cebes, Socrates<a id= +"footnotetag22" name="footnotetag22" href= +"#footnote22"><sup>22</sup></a> argues that every thing that is +beautiful is so from partaking of abstract beauty, and great from +partaking of magnitude, and little from partaking of littleness. +Now, it is impossible, he argues, that contraries can exist in the +same thing at the same time; for instance, the same thing can not +possess both magnitude and littleness, but one will withdraw at the +approach of the other; and not only so, but things which, though +not contrary to each other, yet always contain contraries within +themselves, can not co-exist; for instance, <a class='pagenumber' +name='page76' id='page76'></a>the number three has no contrary, yet +it contains within itself the idea of odd, which is the contrary of +even, and so three never can become even; in like manner, heat +while it is heat can never admit the idea of its contrary, cold. +Now, if this method of reasoning is applied to the soul, it will be +found to be immortal; for life and death are contraries, and never +can co-exist; but wherever the soul is, there is life: so that it +contains within itself that which is contrary to death, and +consequently can never admit of death; therefore it is +immortal.</p> + +<p>With this he closes his arguments in support of the soul's +immortality. Cebes owns himself convinced, but Simmias, though he +is unable to make any objection to the soundness of Socrates's +reasoning, can not help still entertaining doubts on the subject. +If, however, the soul is immortal, Socrates proceeds,<a id= +"footnotetag23" name="footnotetag23" href= +"#footnote23"><sup>23</sup></a> great need is there in this life to +endeavor to become as wise and good as possible. For if death were +a deliverance from every thing, it would be a great gain for the +wicked; but since the soul appears to be immortal, it must go to +the place suited to its nature. For it is said that each person's +demon conducts him to a place where he receives sentence according +to his deserts.</p> + +<p>He then<a id="footnotetag24" name="footnotetag24" href= +"#footnote24"><sup>24</sup></a> draws a fanciful picture of the +various regions of the earth, to which the good and the bad will +respectively go after death, and exhorts his friends to use every +endeavor to acquire virtue and wisdom in this life, "for," he adds, +"the reward is noble, and the hope great."</p> + +<p>Having thus brought his subject to a conclusion, Socrates +proposes to bathe himself, in order not to trouble others to wash +his dead body. Crito thereupon asks if he has any commands to give, +and especially how he would be buried, to which he, with his usual +cheerfulness, makes answer, "<a class='pagenumber' name='page77' +id='page77'></a>Just as you please, if only you can catch me;" and +then, smiling, he reminds them that after death he shall be no +longer with them, and begs the others of the party to be sureties +to Crito for his absence from the body, as they had been before +bound for his presence before his judges.</p> + +<p>After he had bathed, and taken leave of his children and the +women of his family the officer of the Eleven comes in to intimate +to him that it is now time to drink the poison. Crito urges a +little delay, as the sun had not yet set; but Socrates refuses to +make himself ridiculous by showing such a fondness for life. The +man who is to administer the poison is therefore sent for; and on +his holding out the cup, Socrates, neither trembling nor changing +color or countenance at all, but, as he was wont, looking +steadfastly at the man, asked if he might make a libation to any +one; and being told that no more poison than enough had been mixed, +he simply prayed that his departure from this to another world +might be happy, and then drank off the poison, readily and calmly. +His friends, who had hitherto with difficulty restrained +themselves, could no longer control the outward expressions of +grief, to which Socrates said, "What are you doing, my friends? I, +for this reason, chiefly, sent away the women, that they might not +commit any folly of this kind; for I have heard that it is right to +die with good omens. Be quiet, therefore, and bear up."</p> + +<p>When he had walked about for a while his legs began to grow +heavy, so he lay down on his back; and his body, from the feet +upward, gradually grew cold and stiff. His last words were, "Crito, +we owe a cock to Æsculapius; pay it, therefore, and do not +neglect it."</p> + +<p>"This," concludes Phædo, "was the end of our +friend—a man, as we may say, the best of all his time, that +we have known, and, moreover, the most wise and just."</p> + +<h3>Footnotes</h3> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote12" name="footnote12" href= +"#footnotetag12">12</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec21">21-39</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote13" name="footnote13" href= +"#footnotetag13">13</a>: Sec. <a href="#phaedo_sec39">39, +40</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote14" name="footnote14" href= +"#footnotetag14">14</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec40">40-46</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote15" name="footnote15" href= +"#footnotetag15">15</a>: Sec. <a href="#phaedo_sec47">47</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote16" name="footnote16" href= +"#footnotetag16">16</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec48">48-57</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote17" name="footnote17" href= +"#footnotetag17">17</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec55">55-59</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote18" name="footnote18" href= +"#footnotetag18">18</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec61">61-75</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote19" name="footnote19" href= +"#footnotetag19">19</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec76">76-84</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote20" name="footnote20" href= +"#footnotetag20">20</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec93">93-99</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote21" name="footnote21" href= +"#footnotetag21">21</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec100">100-112</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote22" name="footnote22" href= +"#footnotetag22">22</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec112">112-128</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote23" name="footnote23" href= +"#footnotetag23">23</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec129">129-131</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote24" name="footnote24" href= +"#footnotetag24">24</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec132">132-145</a>.</div> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="book"><a name='phaedo_or_the_immortality_of_the_soul' +id='phaedo_or_the_immortality_of_the_soul'></a><a class= +'pagenumber' name='page78' id='page78'></a> + +<h2>Phædo;<br> + Or,<br> + The Immortality Of The Soul.</h2> + +FIRST ECHECRATES, PHÆDO.<br> + THEN SOCRATES, APOLLODORUS, CEBES, SIMMIAS, AND CRITO. + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec1" name= +"phaedo_sec1"></a><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> Were you +personally present, Phædo, with Socrates on that day when he +drank the poison in prison, or did you hear an account of it from +some one else?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> I was there myself, +Echecrates.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> What, then, did he say +before his death, and how did he die? for I should be glad to hear: +for scarcely any citizen of Phlius<a id="footnotetag25" name= +"footnotetag25" href="#footnote25"><sup>25</sup></a> ever visits +Athens now, nor has any stranger for a long time come from thence +who was able to give us a clear account of the particulars, except +that he had died from drinking poison; but he was unable to tell us +any thing more.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec2" name= +"phaedo_sec2">2</a>. <span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> +And did you not hear about the trial—how it went off?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> Yes; some one told me +this; and I wondered that, <a class='pagenumber' name='page79' id= +'page79'></a>as it took place so long ago, he appears to have died +long afterward. What was the reason of this, Phædo?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> An accidental +circumstance happened in his favor, Echecrates; for the poop of the +ship which the Athenians send to Delos chanced to be crowned on the +day before the trial.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> But what is this ship?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> It is the ship, as +the Athenians say, in which Theseus formerly conveyed the fourteen +boys and girls to Crete, and saved both them and himself. They, +therefore, made a vow to Apollo on that occasion, as it is said, +that if they were saved they would every year dispatch a solemn +embassy to Delos; which, from that time to the present, they send +yearly to the god. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec3" name= +"phaedo_sec3">3</a>. When they begin the preparations for this +solemn embassy, they have a law that the city shall be purified +during this period, and that no public execution shall take place +until the ship has reached Delos, and returned to Athens; and this +occasionally takes a long time, when the winds happen to impede +their passage. The commencement of the embassy is when the priest +of Apollo has crowned the poop of the ship. And this was done, as I +said, on the day before the trial: on this account Socrates had a +long interval in prison between the trial and his death.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec4" name= +"phaedo_sec4">4</a>. <span class="speakername">Ech.</span> And +what, Phædo, were the circumstances of his death? What was +said and done? and who of his friends were with him? or would not +the magistrates allow them to be present, but did he die destitute +of friends?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> By no means; but +some, indeed several, were present.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> Take the trouble, then, to +relate to me all the particulars as clearly as you can, unless you +have any pressing business.</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page80' id='page80'></a><span class= +"speakername">Phæd.</span> I am at leisure, and will endeavor +to give you a full account; for to call Socrates to mind, whether +speaking myself or listening to some one else, is always most +delightful to me.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec5" name= +"phaedo_sec5">5</a>. <span class="speakername">Ech.</span> And +indeed, Phædo, you have others to listen to you who are of +the same mind. However, endeavor to relate every thing as +accurately as you can.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> I was, indeed, +wonderfully affected by being present, for I was not impressed with +a feeling of pity, like one present at the death of a friend; for +the man appeared to me to be happy, Echecrates, both from his +manner and discourse, so fearlessly and nobly did he meet his +death: so much so, that it occurred to me that in going to Hades he +was not going without a divine destiny, but that when he arrived +there he would be happy, if any one ever was. For this reason I was +entirely uninfluenced by any feeling of pity, as would seem likely +to be the case with one present on so mournful an occasion; nor was +I affected by pleasure from being engaged in philosophical +discussions, as was our custom; for our conversation was of that +kind. But an altogether unaccountable feeling possessed me, a kind +of unusual mixture compounded of pleasure and pain together, when I +considered that he was immediately about to die. And all of us who +were present were affected in much the same manner, at one time +laughing, at another weeping—one of us especially, +Apollodorus, for you know the man and his manner.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> How should I not?</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec6" name= +"phaedo_sec6">6</a>. <span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> +He, then, was entirely overcome by these emotions; and I, too, was +troubled, as well as the others.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> But who were present, +Phædo?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> Of his +fellow-countrymen, this Apollodorus was present, and Critobulus, +and his father, Crito; moreover, <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page81' id='page81'></a>Hermogenes, Epigenes, Æschines and +Antisthenes; Ctesippus the Pæanian, Menexenus, and some +others of his countrymen, were also there: Plato, I think, was +sick.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> Were any strangers +present?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> Yes; Simmias, the +Theban, Cebes and Phædondes; and from Megara, Euclides and +Terpsion.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec7" name= +"phaedo_sec7">7</a>. <span class="speakername">Ech.</span> But +what! were not Aristippus and Cleombrotus present?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> No, for they were +said to be at Ægina.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> Was any one else +there?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> I think that these +were nearly all who were present.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> Well, now, what do you say +was the subject of conversation?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> I will endeavor to +relate the whole to you from the beginning. On the preceding days I +and the others were constantly in the habit of visiting Socrates, +meeting early in the morning at the court house where the trial +took place, for it was near the prison. <a class="sectionnumber" +id="phaedo_sec8" name="phaedo_sec8">8</a>. Here, then, we waited +every day till the prison was opened, conversing with each other, +for it was not opened very early; but as soon as it was opened we +went in to Socrates, and usually spent the day with him. On that +occasion, however, we met earlier than usual; for on the preceding +day, when we left the prison in the evening, we heard that the ship +had arrived from Delos. We therefore urged each other to come as +early as possible to the accustomed place. Accordingly we came; and +the porter, who used to admit us, coming out, told us to wait, and +not to enter until he had called us. "For," he said, "the Eleven +are now freeing Socrates from his bonds, and announcing to him that +he must die to-day." But in no long time he returned, and bade us +enter.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec9" name= +"phaedo_sec9">9</a>. When we entered, we found Socrates just freed +from <a class='pagenumber' name='page82' id='page82'></a>his bonds, +and Xantippe, you know her, holding his little boy, and sitting by +him. As soon as Xantippe saw us she wept aloud, and said such +things as women usually do on such occasions—as, "Socrates, +your friends will now converse with you for the last time, and you +with them." But Socrates, looking towards Crito, said: "Crito, let +some one take her home." Upon which some of Crito's attendants led +her away, wailing and beating herself.</p> + +<p>But Socrates, sitting up in bed, drew up his leg, and rubbed it +with his hand, and as he rubbed it, said: "What an unaccountable +thing, my friends, that seems to be, which men call pleasure! and +how wonderfully is it related toward that which appears to be its +contrary, pain, in that they will not both be present to a man at +the same time! Yet if any one pursues and attains the one, he is +almost always compelled to receive the other, as if they were both +united together from one head."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec10" name= +"phaedo_sec10">10</a>. "And it seems tome," he said, "that if +Æsop had observed this he would have made a fable from it, +how the deity, wishing to reconcile these warring principles, when +he could not do so, united their heads together, and from hence +whomsoever the one visits the other attends immediately after; as +appears to be the case with me, since I suffered pain in my leg +before from the chain, but now pleasure seems to have +succeeded."</p> + +<p>Hereupon Cebes, interrupting him, said: "By Jupiter! Socrates, +you have done well in reminding me; with respect to the poems which +you made, by putting into metre those Fables of Æsop and the +hymn to Apollo, several other persons asked me, and especially +Evenus recently, with what design you made them after you came +here, whereas before you had never made any. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec11" name="phaedo_sec11">11</a>. If +therefore, you care at all that I should be able to answer Evenus, +when he asks me <a class='pagenumber' name='page83' id= +'page83'></a>again—for I am sure he will do so—tell me +what I must say to him."</p> + +<p>"Tell him the truth, then, Cebes," he replied, "that I did not +make them from a wish to compete with him, or his poems, for I knew +that this would be no easy matter; but that I might discover the +meaning of certain dreams, and discharge my conscience, if this +should happen to be the music which they have often ordered me to +apply myself to. For they were to the following purport: often in +my past life the same dream visited me, appearing at different +times in different forms, yet always saying the same +thing—'Socrates,' it said, 'apply yourself to and practice +music.' <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec12" name= +"phaedo_sec12">12</a>. And I formerly supposed that it exhorted and +encouraged me to continue the pursuit I was engaged in, as those +who cheer on racers, so that the dream encouraged me to continue +the pursuit I was engaged in—namely, to apply myself to +music, since philosophy is the highest music, and I was devoted to +it. But now since my trial took place, and the festival of the god +retarded my death, it appeared to me that if by chance the dream so +frequently enjoined me to apply myself to popular music, I ought +not to disobey it, but do so, for that it would be safer for me not +to depart hence before I had discharged my conscience by making +some poems in obedience to the dream. Thus, then, I first of all +composed a hymn to the god whose festival was present; and after +the god, considering that a poet, if he means to be a poet, ought +to make fables, and not discourses, and knowing that I was not +skilled in making fables, I therefore put into verse those Fables +of Æsop, which were at hand, and were known to me, and which +first occurred to me."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec13" name= +"phaedo_sec13">13</a>. "Tell this, then, to Evenus, Cebes, and bid +him farewell, and if he is wise, to follow me as soon as he can. +But I depart, as it seems, to-day; for so the Athenians order."</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page84' id='page84'></a>To this +Simmias said, "What is this, Socrates, which you exhort Evenus to +do? for I often meet with him; and, from what I know of him, I am +pretty certain that he will not at all be willing to comply with +your advice."</p> + +<p>"What, then," said he, "is not Evenus a philosopher?"</p> + +<p>"To me he seems to be so," said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"Then he will be willing," rejoined Socrates, "and so will every +one who worthily engages in this study. Perhaps, indeed, he will +not commit violence on himself; for that, they say, is not +allowable." And as he said this he let down his leg from the bed on +the ground, and in this posture continued during the remainder of +the discussion.</p> + +<p>Cebes then asked him, "What do you mean, Socrates, by saying +that it is not lawful to commit violence on one's self, but that a +philosopher should be willing to follow one who is dying?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec14" name= +"phaedo_sec14">14</a>. "What, Cebes! have not you and Simmias, who +have conversed familiarly with Philolaus<a id="footnotetag26" name= +"footnotetag26" href="#footnote26"><sup>26</sup></a> on this +subject, heard?"</p> + +<p>"Nothing very clearly, Socrates."</p> + +<p>"I, however, speak only from hearsay; what, then, I have heard I +have no scruple in telling. And perhaps it is most becoming for one +who is about to travel there to inquire and speculate about the +journey thither, what kind we think it is. What else can one do in +the interval before sunset?"</p> + +<p>"Why, then, Socrates, do they say that it is not allowable to +kill one's self? for I, as you asked just now, have heard both +Philolaus, when he lived with us, and several others, say that it +was not right to do this; but I never heard any thing clear upon +the subject from any one."</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page85' id='page85'></a><a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec15" name="phaedo_sec15">15</a>. +"Then, you should consider it attentively," said Socrates, "for +perhaps you may hear. Probably, however, it will appear wonderful +to you, if this alone, of all other things, is a universal truth,<a +id="footnotetag27" name="footnotetag27" href= +"#footnote27"><sup>27</sup></a> and it never happens to a man, as +is the case in all other things, that at some times and to some +persons only it is better to die than to live; yet that these men +for whom it is better to die—this probably will appear +wonderful to you—may not without impiety do this good to +themselves, but must await another benefactor."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec16" name= +"phaedo_sec16">16</a>. Then Cebes, gently smiling, said, speaking +in his own dialect,<a id="footnotetag28" name="footnotetag28" href= +"#footnote28"><sup>28</sup></a> "Jove be witness!"</p> + +<p>"And, indeed," said Socrates, "it would appear to be +unreasonable; yet still, perhaps, it has some reason on its side. +The maxim, indeed, given on this subject in the mystical +doctrines,<a id="footnotetag29" name="footnotetag29" href= +"#footnote29"><sup>29</sup></a> that we men are in a kind of +prison, and that we ought not to free ourselves from it and escape, +appears to me difficult to be understood, and not easy to +penetrate. This, however, appears to me, Cebes, to be well said: +that the gods take care of us, and that we men are one of their +possessions. Does it not seem so to you?"</p> + +<p>"It does," replied Cebes.</p> + +<p>"Therefore," said he, "if one of your slaves were to kill +himself, without your having intimated that you wished him to die, +should you not be angry with him, and should you not punish him if +you could?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Perhaps, then, in this point of view, it is not unreasonable to +assert that a man ought not to kill himself before the deity lays +him under a necessity of doing so, such as that now laid on +me."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec17" name= +"phaedo_sec17">17</a>. "This, indeed," said Cebes, "appears to be +probable. <a class='pagenumber' name='page86' id='page86'></a>But +what you said just now, Socrates, that philosophers should be very +willing to die, appears to be an absurdity, if what we said just +now is agreeable to reason—that it is God who takes care of +us, and that we are his property. For that the wisest men should +not be grieved at leaving that service in which they govern them +who are the best of all masters—namely, the gods—is not +consistent with reason; for surely he can not think that he will +take better care of himself when he has become free. But a foolish +man might perhaps think thus, that he should fly from his master, +and would not reflect that he ought not to fly from a good one, but +should cling to him as much as possible; therefore he would fly +against all reason; but a man of sense would desire to be +constantly with one better than himself. Thus, Socrates, the +contrary of what you just now said is likely to be the case; for it +becomes the wise to be grieved at dying, but the foolish to +rejoice."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec18" name= +"phaedo_sec18">18</a>. Socrates, on hearing this, appeared to me to +be pleased with the pertinacity of Cebes, and, looking toward us, +said, "Cebes, you see, always searches out arguments, and is not at +all willing to admit at once any thing one has said."</p> + +<p>Whereupon Simmias replied, "But, indeed, Socrates, Cebes appears +to me now to say something to the purpose; for with what design +should men really wise fly from masters who are better than +themselves, and so readily leave them? And Cebes appears to me to +direct his argument against you, because you so easily endure to +abandon both us and those good rulers, as you yourself confess, the +gods."</p> + +<p>"You speak justly," said Socrates, "for I think you mean that I +ought to make my defense to this charge, as if I were in a court of +justice."</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page87' id='page87'></a>Certainly," +replied Simmias.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec19" name= +"phaedo_sec19">19</a>. "Come, then," said he, "I will endeavor to +defend myself more successfully before you than before the judges. +For," he proceeded, "Simmias and Cebes, if I did not think that I +should go, first of all, among other deities who are both wise and +good, and, next, among men who have departed this life, better than +any here, I should be wrong in not grieving at death; but now, be +assured, I hope to go among good men, though I would not positively +assert it. That, however, I shall go among gods who are perfectly +good masters, be assured I can positively assert this, if I can any +thing of the kind. So that, on this account, I am not so much +troubled, but I entertain a good hope that something awaits those +who die, and that, as was said long since, it will be far better +for the good than the evil."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec20" name= +"phaedo_sec20">20</a>. "What, then, Socrates," said Simmias, "would +you go away keeping this persuasion to yourself, or would you +impart it to us? For this good appears to me to be also common to +us; and at the same time it will be an apology for you, if you can +persuade us to believe what you say."</p> + +<p>"I will endeavor to do so," he said. "But first let us attend to +Crito here, and see what it is he seems to have for some time +wished to say."</p> + +<p>"What else, Socrates," said Crito, "but what he who is to give +you the poison told me some time ago, that I should tell you to +speak as little as possible? For he says that men become too much +heated by speaking, and that nothing of this kind ought to +interfere with the poison; and that, otherwise, those who did so +were sometimes compelled to drink two or three times."</p> + +<p>To which Socrates replied, "Let him alone, and let him attend to +his own business, and prepare to give it me twice, or, if occasion +require, even thrice."</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page88' id='page88'></a><a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec21" name="phaedo_sec21">21</a>. "I +was almost certain what you would say," answered Crito, "but he has +been some time pestering me."</p> + +<p>"Never mind him," he rejoined.</p> + +<p>"But now I wish to render an account to you, my judges, of the +reason why a man who has really devoted his life to philosophy, +when he is about to die, appears to me, on good grounds, to have +confidence, and to entertain a firm hope that the greatest good +will befall him in the other world when he has departed this life. +How, then, this comes to pass, Simmias and Cebes, I will endeavor +to explain."</p> + +<p>"For as many as rightly apply themselves to philosophy seem to +have left all others in ignorance, that they aim at nothing else +than to die and be dead. If this, then, is true, it would surely be +absurd to be anxious about nothing else than this during their +whole life, but, when it arrives, to be grieved at what they have +been long anxious about and aimed at."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec22" name= +"phaedo_sec22">22</a>. Upon this, Simmias, smiling, said, "By +Jupiter! Socrates, though I am not now at all inclined to smile, +you have made me do so; for I think that the multitude, if they +heard this, would think it was very well said in reference to +philosophers, and that our countrymen particularly would agree with +you, that true philosophers do desire death, and that they are by +no means ignorant that they deserve to suffer it."</p> + +<p>"And, indeed, Simmias, they would speak the truth, except in +asserting that they are not ignorant; for they are ignorant of the +sense in which true philosophers desire to die, and in what sense +they deserve death, and what kind of death. But," he said, "let us +take leave of them, and speak to one another. Do we think that +death is any thing?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," replied Simmias.</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page89' id='page89'></a><a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec23" name="phaedo_sec23">23</a>. "Is +it any thing else than the separation of the soul from the body? +And is not this to die, for the body to be apart by itself +separated from the soul, and for the soul to subsist apart by +itself separated from the body? Is death any thing else than +this?"</p> + +<p>"No, but this," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Consider, then, my good friend, whether you are of the same +opinion as I; for thus, I think, we shall understand better the +subject we are considering. Does it appear to you to be becoming in +a philosopher to be anxious about pleasures, as they are called, +such as meats and drinks?"</p> + +<p>"By no means, Socrates," said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"But what? about the pleasures of love?"</p> + +<p>"Not at all."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec24" name= +"phaedo_sec24">24</a>. "What, then? Does such a man appear to you +to think other bodily indulgences of value? For instance, does he +seem to you to value or despise the possession of magnificent +garments and sandals, and other ornaments of the body except so far +as necessity compels him to use them?"</p> + +<p>"The true philosopher," he answered, "appears to me to despise +them."</p> + +<p>"Does not, then," he continued, "the whole employment of such a +man appear to you to be, not about the body, but to separate +himself from it as much as possible, and be occupied about his +soul?"</p> + +<p>"It does."</p> + +<p>"First of all, then, in such matters, does not the philosopher, +above all other men, evidently free his soul as much as he can from +communion with the body?"</p> + +<p>"It appears so."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec25" name= +"phaedo_sec25">25</a>. "And it appears, Simmias, to the generality +of men, that he who takes no pleasure in such things, and who does +<a class='pagenumber' name='page90' id='page90'></a>not use them, +does not deserve to live; but that he nearly approaches to death +who cares nothing for the pleasures that subsist through the +body."</p> + +<p>"You speak very truly."</p> + +<p>"But what with respect to the acquisition of wisdom? Is the body +an impediment, or not, if any one takes it with him as a partner in +the search? What I mean is this: Do sight and hearing convey any +truth to men, or are they such as the poets constantly sing, who +say that we neither hear nor see any thing with accuracy? If, +however, these bodily senses are neither accurate nor clear, much +less can the others be so; for they are all far inferior to these. +Do they not seem so to you?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec26" name= +"phaedo_sec26">26</a>. "When, then," said he, "does the soul light +on the truth? for when it attempts to consider any thing in +conjunction with the body, it is plain that it is then led astray +by it."</p> + +<p>"You say truly."</p> + +<p>"Must it not, then, be by reasoning, if at all, that any of the +things that really are become known to it?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"And surely the soul then reasons best when none of these things +disturb it—neither hearing, nor sight, nor pain, nor pleasure +of any kind; but it retires as much as possible within itself, +taking leave of the body; and, so far as it can, not communicating +or being in contact with it, it aims at the discovery of that which +is."</p> + +<p>"Such is the case."</p> + +<p>"Does not, then, the soul of the philosopher, in these cases, +despise the body, and flee from it, and seek to retire within +itself?"</p> + +<p>"It appears so."</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page91' id='page91'></a><a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec27" name="phaedo_sec27">27</a>. "But +what as to such things as these, Simmias? Do we say that justice +itself is something or nothing?"</p> + +<p>"We say it is something, by Jupiter!"</p> + +<p>"And that beauty and goodness are something?"</p> + +<p>"How not?"</p> + +<p>"Now, then, have you ever seen any thing of this kind with your +eyes?"</p> + +<p>"By no means," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Did you ever lay hold of them by any other bodily sense? But I +speak generally, as of magnitude, health, strength and, in a word, +of the essence of every thing; that is to say, what each is. Is, +then, the exact truth of these perceived by means of the body, or +is it thus, whoever among us habituates himself to reflect most +deeply and accurately on each several thing about which he is +considering, he will make the nearest approach to the knowledge of +it?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec28" name= +"phaedo_sec28">28</a>. "Would not he, then, do this with the utmost +purity, who should in the highest degree approach each subject by +means of the mere mental faculties, neither employing the sight in +conjunction with the reflective faculty, nor introducing any other +sense together with reasoning; but who, using pure reflection by +itself, should attempt to search out each essence purely by itself, +freed as much as possible from the eyes and ears, and, in a word, +from the whole body, as disturbing the soul, and not suffering it +to acquire truth and wisdom, when it is in communion with it. Is +not he the person, Simmias, if any one can, who will arrive at the +knowledge of that which is?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec29" name= +"phaedo_sec29">29</a>. "You speak with wonderful truth, Socrates," +replied Simmias.</p> + +<p>"Wherefore," he said, "it necessarily follows from all <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page92' id='page92'></a>this that some such +opinion as this should be entertained by genuine philosophers, so +that they should speak among themselves as follows: 'A by-path, as +it were, seems to lead us on in our researches undertaken by +reason,' because so long as we are encumbered with the body, and +our soul is contaminated with such an evil, we can never fully +attain to what we desire; and this, we say, is truth. For the body +subjects us to innumerable hinderances on account of its necessary +support; and, moreover, if any diseases befall us, they impede us +in our search after that which is; and it fills us with longings, +desires, fears, all kinds of fancies, and a multitude of +absurdities, so that, as it is said in real truth, by reason of the +body it is never possible for us to make any advances in wisdom. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec30" name="phaedo_sec30">30</a>. +For nothing else than the body and its desires occasion wars, +seditions, and contests; for all wars among us arise on account of +our desire to acquire wealth: and we are compelled to acquire +wealth on account of the body, being enslaved to its service; and +consequently on all these accounts we are hindered in the pursuit +of philosophy. But the worst of all is, that if it leaves us any +leisure, and we apply ourselves to the consideration of any +subject, it constantly obtrudes itself in the midst of our +researches, and occasions trouble and disturbance, and confounds us +so that we are not able, by reason of it, to discern the truth. It +has, then, in reality been demonstrated to us that if we are ever +to know any thing purely, we must be separated from the body, and +contemplate the things themselves by the mere soul; and then, as it +seems, we shall obtain that which we desire, and which we profess +ourselves to be lovers of—wisdom—when we are dead, as +reason shows, but not while we are alive. <a class="sectionnumber" +id="phaedo_sec31" name="phaedo_sec31">31</a>. For if it is not +possible to know any thing purely in conjunction with the body, one +of these two things must follow, either that we can never acquire +<a class='pagenumber' name='page93' id='page93'></a>knowledge, or +only after we are dead; for then the soul will subsist apart by +itself, separate from the body, but not before. And while we live +we shall thus, as it seems, approach nearest to knowledge, if we +hold no intercourse or communion at all with the body, except what +absolute necessity requires, nor suffer ourselves to be polluted by +its nature, but purify ourselves from it, until God himself shall +release us. And thus being pure, and freed from the folly of body, +we shall in all likelihood be with others like ourselves, and shall +of ourselves know the whole real essence, and that probably is +truth; for it is not allowable for the impure to attain to the +pure. Such things, I think, Simmias, all true lovers of wisdom must +both think and say to one another. Does it not seem so to you?"</p> + +<p>"Most assuredly, Socrates."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec32" name= +"phaedo_sec32">32</a>. "If this, then," said Socrates, "is true, my +friend, there is great hope for one who arrives where I am going, +there, if anywhere, to acquire that in perfection for the sake of +which we have taken so much pains during our past life; so that the +journey now appointed me is set out upon with good hope, and will +be so by any other man who thinks that his mind has been, as it +were, purified."</p> + +<p>"Certainly," said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"But does not purification consist in this, as was said in a +former part of our discourse, in separating as much as possible the +soul from the body, and in accustoming it to gather and collect +itself by itself on all sides apart from the body, and to dwell, so +far as it can, both now and hereafter, alone by itself, delivered, +as it were, from the shackles of the body?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec33" name= +"phaedo_sec33">33</a>. "Is this, then, called death, this +deliverance and separation of the soul from the body?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page94' id='page94'></a>Assuredly," +he answered.</p> + +<p>"But, as we affirmed, those who pursue philosophy rightly are +especially and alone desirous to deliver it; and this is the very +study of philosophers, the deliverance and separation of the soul +from the body, is it not?"</p> + +<p>"It appears so."</p> + +<p>"Then, as I said at first, would it not be ridiculous for a man +who has endeavored throughout his life to live as near as possible +to death, then, when death arrives, to grieve? would not this be +ridiculous?"</p> + +<p>"How should it not?"</p> + +<p>"In reality, then, Simmias," he continued, "those who pursue +philosophy rightly, study to die; and to them, of all men, death is +least formidable. Judge from this. Since they altogether hate the +body and desire to keep the soul by itself, would it not be +irrational if, when this comes to pass, they should be afraid and +grieve, and not be glad to go to that place where, on their +arrival, they may hope to obtain that which they longed for +throughout life? But they longed for wisdom, and to be freed from +association with that which they hated. <a class="sectionnumber" +id="phaedo_sec34" name="phaedo_sec34">34</a>. Have many of their +own accord wished to descend into Hades, on account of human +objects of affection, their wives and sons, induced by this very +hope of their seeing and being with those whom they have loved? and +shall one who really loves wisdom, and firmly cherishes this very +hope, that he shall nowhere else attain it in a manner worthy of +the name, except in Hades, be grieved at dying, and not gladly go +there? We must think that he would gladly go, my friend, if he be +in truth a philosopher; for he will be firmly persuaded of this, +that he will nowhere else than there attain wisdom in its purity; +and if this be so, would it not be very irrational, as I just now +said, if such a man were to be afraid of death?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page95' id='page95'></a>Very much +so, by Jupiter!" he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec35" name= +"phaedo_sec35">35</a>. "Would not this, then," he resumed, "be a +sufficient proof to you with respect to a man whom you should see +grieved when about to die, that he was not a lover of wisdom, but a +lover of his body? And this same person is probably a lover of +riches and a lover of honor, one or both of these."</p> + +<p>"It certainly is as you say," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Does not, then," he said, "that which is called fortitude, +Simmias, eminently belong to philosophers?"</p> + +<p>"By all means," he answered.</p> + +<p>"And temperance, also, which even the multitude call temperance, +and which consists in not being carried away by the passions, but +in holding them in contempt, and keeping them in subjection, does +not this belong to those only who most despise the body, and live +in the study of philosophy?"</p> + +<p>"Necessarily so," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec36" name= +"phaedo_sec36">36</a>. "For," he continued, "if you will consider +the fortitude and temperance of others, they will appear to you to +be absurd."</p> + +<p>"How so, Socrates?"</p> + +<p>"Do you know," he said, "that all others consider death among +the great evils?"</p> + +<p>"They do indeed," he answered.</p> + +<p>"Then, do the brave among them endure death when they do endure +it, through dread of greater evils?"</p> + +<p>"It is so."</p> + +<p>"All men, therefore, except philosophers, are brave through +being afraid and fear; though it is absurd that any one should be +brave through fear and cowardice."</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"But what, are not those among them who keep their <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page96' id='page96'></a>passions in subjection +affected in the same way? and are they not temperate through a kind +of intemperance? And although we may say, perhaps, that this is +impossible, nevertheless the manner in which they are affected with +respect to this silly temperance resembles this, for, fearing to be +deprived of other pleasures, and desiring them, they abstain from +some, being mastered by others. And though they call intemperance +the being governed by pleasures, yet it happens to them that, by +being mastered by some pleasures, they master others, and this is +similar to what was just now said, that in a certain manner they +become temperate through intemperance."</p> + +<p>"So it seems,"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec37" name= +"phaedo_sec37">37</a>. "My dear Simmias, consider that this is not +a right exchange for virtue, to barter pleasures for pleasures, +pains for pains, fear for fear, and the greater for the lesser, +like pieces of money, but that that alone is the right coin, for +which we ought to barter all these things, wisdom, and for this and +with this everything is in reality bought and sold Fortitude, +temperance and justice, and, in a word true virtue, subsist with +wisdom, whether pleasures and fears, and everything else of the +kind, are present or absent, but when separated from wisdom and +changed one for another, consider whether such virtue is not a mere +outline and in reality servile, possessing neither soundness nor +truth. But the really true virtue is a purification from all such +things, and temperance, justice, fortitude and wisdom itself, are a +kind of initiatory purification <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec38" name="phaedo_sec38">38</a>. And those who instituted +the mysteries for us appear to have been by no means contemptible, +but in reality to have intimated long since that whoever shall +arrive in Hades unexpiated and uninitiated shall lie in mud, but he +that arrives there purified and initiated shall dwell with the gods +'For there are,' say those <a class='pagenumber' name='page97' id= +'page97'></a>who preside at the mysteries, 'many wand-bearers, but +few inspired'. These last, in my opinion, are no other than those +who have pursued philosophy rightly that I might be of their +number. I have to the utmost of my ability left no means untried, +but have endeavored to the utmost of my power. But whether I have +endeavored rightly, and have in any respect succeeded, on arriving +there I shall know clearly, if it please God—very shortly, as +it appears to me."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec39" name= +"phaedo_sec39">39</a>. "Such, then, Simmias and Cebes," he added, +"is the defense I make, for that I, on good grounds, do not repine +or grieve at leaving you and my masters here, being persuaded that +there, no less than here, I shall meet with good masters and +friends. But to the multitude this is incredible If, however, I +have succeeded better with you in my defense than I did with the +Athenian judges, it is well."</p> + +<p>When Socrates had thus spoken, Cebes, taking up the discussion, +said "Socrates, all the rest appears to me to be said rightly, but +what you have said respecting the soul will occasion much +incredulity in many from the apprehension that when it is separated +from the body it no longer exists anywhere, but is destroyed and +perishes on the very day in which a man dies, and that immediately +it is separated and goes out from the body it is dispersed, and +vanishes like breath or smoke, and is no longer anywhere, since if +it remained anywhere united in itself, and freed from those evils +which you have just now enumerated, there would be an abundant and +good hope, Socrates, that what you say is true <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec40" name="phaedo_sec40">40</a>. But +this probably needs no little persuasion and proof, that the soul +of a man who dies exists, and possesses activity and +intelligence."</p> + +<p>"You say truly, Cebes," said Socrates, "but what shall we do? +Are you willing that we should converse on these points, whether +such is probably the case or not?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page98' id='page98'></a>Indeed," +replied Cebes, "I should gladly hear your opinion on these +matters."</p> + +<p>"I do not think," said Socrates, "that any one who should now +hear us, even though he were a comic poet, would say that I am +talking idly, or discoursing on subjects that do not concern me. If +you please, then, we will examine into it. Let us consider it in +this point of view, whether the souls of men who are dead exist in +Hades, or not. This is an ancient saying, which we now call to +mind, that souls departing hence exist there, and return hither +again, and are produced from the dead. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec41" name="phaedo_sec41">41</a>. And if this is so, that +the living are produced again from the dead, can there be any other +consequence than that our souls are there? for surely they could +not be produced again if they did not exist; and this would be +sufficient proof that these things are so, if it should in reality +be evident that the living are produced from no other source than +the dead. But if this is not the case, there will be need of other +arguments."</p> + +<p>"Certainly," said Cebes.</p> + +<p>"You must not, then," he continued, "consider this only with +respect to men, if you wish to ascertain it with greater certainty, +but also with respect to all animals and plants, and, in a word, +with respect to every thing that is subject to generation. Let us +see whether they are not all so produced, no otherwise than +contraries from contraries, wherever they have any such quality; +as, for instance, the honorable is contrary to the base, and the +just to the unjust, and so with ten thousand other things. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec42" name="phaedo_sec42">42</a>. +Let us consider this, then, whether it is necessary that all things +which have a contrary should be produced from nothing else than +their contrary. As, for instance, when any thing becomes greater, +is it not necessary that, from being previously smaller, it +afterward became greater?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page99' id='page99'></a>Yes."</p> + +<p>"And if it becomes smaller, will it not, from being previously +greater, afterward become smaller?"</p> + +<p>"It is so," he replied.</p> + +<p>"And from stronger, weaker? and from slower, swifter?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"What, then? If any thing becomes worse, must it not become so +from better? and if more just, from more unjust?"</p> + +<p>"How should it not?"</p> + +<p>"We have then," he said, "sufficiently determined this, that all +things are thus produced, contraries from contraries?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"What next? Is there also something of this kind in them; for +instance, between all two contraries a mutual twofold production, +from one to the other, and from that other back again? for between +a greater thing and a smaller there are increase and decrease, and +do we not accordingly call the one to increase, the other to +decrease?"</p> + +<p>"Yes," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec43" name= +"phaedo_sec43">43</a>. "And must not to be separated and +commingled, to grow cold and to grow warm, and every thing in the +same manner, even though sometimes we have not names to designate +them, yet in fact be everywhere thus circumstanced, of necessity, +as to be produced from each other, and be subject to a reciprocal +generation?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"What, then?" said Socrates, "has life any contrary, as waking +has its contrary, sleeping?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he answered.</p> + +<p>"What?"</p> + +<p>"Death," he replied.</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page100' id='page100'></a>Are not +these, then, produced from each other, since they are contraries; +and are not the modes by which they are produced two-fold +intervening between these two?"</p> + +<p>"How should it be otherwise?"</p> + +<p>"I then," continued Socrates, "will describe to you one pair of +the contraries which I have just now mentioned, both what it is and +its mode of production: and do you describe to me the other. I say +that one is to sleep, the other to awake; and from sleeping awaking +is produced, and from awaking sleeping, and that the modes of their +production are, the one to fall asleep, the other to be roused. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec44" name="phaedo_sec44">44</a>. +Have I sufficiently explained this to you or not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"Do you, then," he said, "describe to me in the same manner with +respect to life and death? Do you not say that life is contrary to +death?"</p> + +<p>"I do."</p> + +<p>"And that they are produced from each other?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"What, then, is produced from life?"</p> + +<p>"Death," he replied.</p> + +<p>"What, then," said he "is produced from death?"</p> + +<p>"I must needs confess," he replied, "that life is."</p> + +<p>"From the dead, then, O Cebes! living things and living men are +produced."</p> + +<p>"It appears so," he said.</p> + +<p>"Our souls, therefore," said Socrates, "exist in Hades."</p> + +<p>"So it seems."</p> + +<p>"With respect, then, to their mode of production, is not one of +them very clear? for to die surely is clear, is it not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"What, then, shall we do?" he continued; "shall we not <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page101' id='page101'></a>find a corresponding +contrary mode of production, or will nature be defective in this? +Or must we discover a contrary mode of production to dying?"</p> + +<p>"By all means," he said.</p> + +<p>"What is this?"</p> + +<p>"To revive."</p> + +<p>"Therefore," he proceeded, "if there is such a thing as to +revive, will not this reviving be a mode of production from the +dead to the living?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"Thus, then, we have agreed that the living are produced from +the dead, no less than the dead from the living; but, this being +the case, there appears to me sufficient proof that the souls of +the dead must necessarily exist somewhere, from whence they are +again produced."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec45" name= +"phaedo_sec45">45</a>. "It appears to me, Socrates," he said "that +this must necessarily follow from what has been admitted."</p> + +<p>"See now, O Cebes!" he said, "that we have not agreed on these +things improperly, as it appears to me; for if one class of things +were not constantly given back in the place of another, revolving, +as it were, in a circle, but generation were direct from one thing +alone into its opposite, and did not turn round again to the other, +or retrace its course, do you know that all things would at length +have the same form, be in the same state, and cease to be +produced?"</p> + +<p>"How say you?" he asked.</p> + +<p>"It is by no means difficult," he replied, "to understand what I +mean; if, for instance, there should be such a thing as falling +asleep, but no reciprocal waking again produced from a state of +sleep, you know that at length all things would show the fable of +Endymion to be a jest, and it would be thought nothing at all of, +because everything else would be in the same state as +he—namely, asleep. And if all <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page102' id='page102'></a>things were mingled together, but never +separated, that doctrine of Anaxagoras would soon be verified, 'all +things would be together.' <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec46" name="phaedo_sec46">46</a>. Likewise, my dear Cebes, +if all things that partake of life should die, and after they are +dead should remain in this state of death, and not revive again, +would it not necessarily follow that at length all things should be +dead, and nothing alive? For if living beings are produced from +other things, and living beings die, what could prevent their being +all absorbed in death?"</p> + +<p>"Nothing whatever, I think, Socrates," replied Cebes; "but you +appear to me to speak the exact truth."</p> + +<p>"For, Cebes," he continued, "as it seems to me, such undoubtedly +is the case, and we have not admitted these things under a +delusion, for it is in reality true that there is a reviving again, +that the living are produced from the dead, that the souls of the +dead exist, and that the condition of the good is better, and of +the evil worse."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec47" name= +"phaedo_sec47">47</a>. "And, indeed," said Cebes, interrupting him, +"according to that doctrine, Socrates, which you are frequently in +the habit of advancing, if it is true, that our learning is nothing +else than reminiscence, according to this it is surely necessary +that we must at some former time have learned what we now remember. +But this is impossible, unless our soul existed somewhere before it +came into this human form; so that from hence, also, the soul +appears to be something immortal."</p> + +<p>"But, Cebes," said Simmias, interrupting him, "what proofs are +there of these things? Remind me of them, for I do not very well +remember them at present."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec48" name= +"phaedo_sec48">48</a>. "It is proved," said Cebes, "by one +argument, and that a most beautiful one, that men, when questioned +(if one questions them properly) of themselves, describe all things +as they are, however, if they had not innate knowledge and <a +class='pagenumber' name='page103' id='page103'></a>right reason, +they would never be able to do this. Moreover, if one leads them to +diagrams, or any thing else of the kind, it is then most clearly +apparent that this is the case."</p> + +<p>"But if you are not persuaded in this way, Simmias," said +Socrates, "see if you will agree with us in considering the matter +thus. For do you doubt how that which is called learning is +reminiscence?"</p> + +<p>"I do not doubt," said Simmias; "but I require this very thing +of which we are speaking, to be reminded; and, indeed, from what +Cebes has begun to say, I almost now remember, and am persuaded; +nevertheless, however, I should like to hear now how you would +attempt to prove it."</p> + +<p>"I do it thus" he replied: "we admit, surely, that if any one be +reminded of any thing, he must needs have known that thing at some +time or other before."</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he said.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec49" name= +"phaedo_sec49">49</a>. "Do we, then, admit this also, that when +knowledge comes in a certain manner it is reminiscence? But the +manner I mean is this: if any one, upon seeing or hearing, or +perceiving through the medium of any other sense, some particular +thing, should not only know that, but also form an idea of +something else, of which the knowledge is not the same, but +different, should we not justly say that he remembered that of +which he received the idea?"</p> + +<p>"How mean you?"</p> + +<p>"For instance, the knowledge of a man is different from that of +a lyre."</p> + +<p>"How not?"</p> + +<p>"Do you not know, then, that lovers when they see a lyre, or a +garment, or any thing else which their favorite is accustomed to +use, are thus affected; they both recognize the lyre, and receive +in their minds the form of the person to whom the lyre belonged? +This is reminiscence: just as any <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page104' id='page104'></a>one, seeing Simmias, is often reminded +of Cebes, and so in an infinite number of similar instances."</p> + +<p>"An infinite number, indeed, by Jupiter!" said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"Is not, then," he said, "something of this sort a kind of +reminiscence, especially when one is thus affected with respect to +things which, from lapse of time, and not thinking of them, one has +now forgotten?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec50" name= +"phaedo_sec50">50</a>. "But what?" he continued. "Does it happen +that when one sees a painted horse or a painted lyre one is +reminded of a man, and that when one sees a picture of Simmias one +is reminded of Cebes?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"And does it not also happen that on seeing a picture of Simmias +one is reminded of Simmias himself?"</p> + +<p>"It does, indeed," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Does it not happen, then, according to all this, that +reminiscence arises partly from things like, and partly from things +unlike?"</p> + +<p>"It does."</p> + +<p>"But when one is reminded by things like, is it not necessary +that one should be thus further affected, so as to perceive +whether, as regards likeness, this falls short or not of the thing +of which one has been reminded?"</p> + +<p>"It is necessary," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Consider, then," said Socrates, "if the case is thus. Do we +allow that there is such a thing as equality? I do not mean of one +log with another, nor one stone with another, nor any thing else of +this kind, but something altogether different from all +these—abstract equality; do we allow that there is any such +thing, or not?"</p> + +<p>"By Jupiter! we most assuredly do allow it," replied +Simmias.</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page105' id='page105'></a><a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec51" name="phaedo_sec51">51</a>. "And +do we know what it is itself?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Whence have we derived the knowledge of it? Is it not from the +things we have just now mentioned, and that from seeing logs, or +stones, or other things of the kind, equal, we have from these +formed an idea of that which is different from these—for does +it not appear to you to be different? Consider the matter thus. Do +not stones that are equal, and logs sometimes that are the same, +appear at one time equal, and at another not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"But what? Does abstract equality ever appear to you unequal? or +equality inequality?"</p> + +<p>"Never, Socrates, at any time."</p> + +<p>"These equal things, then," he said, "and abstract equality, are +not the same?"</p> + +<p>"By no means, Socrates, as it appears."</p> + +<p>"However, from these equal things," he said, "which are +different from that abstract equality, have you not formed your +idea and derived your knowledge of it?"</p> + +<p>"You speak most truly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Is it not, therefore, from its being like or unlike them?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"But it makes no difference," he said. "When, therefore, on +seeing one thing, you form, from the sight of it, the notion of +another, whether like or unlike, this," he said, "must necessarily +be reminiscence."</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec52" name= +"phaedo_sec52">52</a>. "What, then, as to this?" he continued. "Are +we affected in any such way with regard to logs and the equal +things we have just now spoken of? And do they appear to us to be +equal in the same manner as abstract equality itself <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page106' id='page106'></a>is, or do they fall +short in some degree, or not at all, of being such as equality +itself is?"</p> + +<p>"They fall far short," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Do we admit, then, that when one, on beholding some particular +thing, perceives that it aims, as that which I now see, at being +like something else that exists, but falls short of it, and can not +become such as that is, but is inferior to it—do we admit +that he who perceives this must necessarily have had a previous +knowledge of that which he says it resembles, though +imperfectly?"</p> + +<p>"It is necessary."</p> + +<p>"What, then? Are we affected in some such way, or not, with +respect to things equal and abstract equality itself?"</p> + +<p>"Assuredly."</p> + +<p>"It is necessary, therefore, that we must have known abstract +equality before the time when, on first seeing equal things, we +perceived that they all aimed at resembling equality, but failed in +doing so."</p> + +<p>"Such is the case."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec53" name= +"phaedo_sec53">53</a>. "Moreover, we admit this too, that we +perceived this, and could not possibly perceive it by any other +means than the sight, or touch, or some other of the senses, for I +say the same of them all."</p> + +<p>"For they are the same, Socrates, so far as, our argument is +concerned."</p> + +<p>"However, we must perceive, by means of the senses, that all +things which come under the senses aim at that abstract equality, +and yet fall short of it; or how shall we say it is?"</p> + +<p>"Even so."</p> + +<p>"Before, then, we began to see, and hear, and use our other +senses, we must have had a knowledge of equality itself—what +<a class='pagenumber' name='page107' id='page107'></a>it is, if we +were to refer to it those equal things that come under the senses, +and observe that all such things aim at resembling that, but fall +far short of it."</p> + +<p>"This necessarily follows, Socrates, from what has been already +said."</p> + +<p>"But did we not, as soon as we were born, see and hear, and +possess our other senses?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"But, we have said, before we possessed these, we must have had +a knowledge of abstract equality?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"We must have had it, then, as it seems, before we were +born."</p> + +<p>"It seems so."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec54" name= +"phaedo_sec54">54</a>. "If, therefore, having this before we were +born, we were born possessing it, we knew, both before we were born +and as soon as we were born, not only the equal and the greater and +smaller, but all things of the kind; for our present discussion is +not more respecting equality than the beautiful itself, the good, +the just, and the holy, and, in one word, respecting every thing +which we mark with the seal of existence, both in the questions we +ask and the answers we give. So that we must necessarily have had a +knowledge of all these before we were born."</p> + +<p>"Such is the case."</p> + +<p>"And if, having once had it, we did not constantly forget it, we +should always be born with this knowledge, and should always retain +it through life. For to know is this, when one has got a knowledge +of any thing, to retain and not lose it; for do we not call this +oblivion, Simmias, the loss of knowledge?"</p> + +<p>"Assuredly, Socrates," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec55" name= +"phaedo_sec55">55</a>. "But if, having had it before we were born, +we lose <a class='pagenumber' name='page108' id='page108'></a>it at +our birth, and afterward, through exercising the senses about these +things, we recover the knowledge which we once before possessed, +would not that which we call learning be a recovery of our own +knowledge? And in saying that this is to remember, should we not +say rightly?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"For this appeared to be possible, for one having perceived any +thing, either by seeing or hearing, or employing any other sense, +to form an idea of something different from this, which he had +forgotten, and with which this was connected by being unlike or +like. So that, as I said, one of these two things must follow: +either we are all born with this knowledge, and we retain it +through life, or those whom we say learn afterward do nothing else +than remember, and this learning will be reminiscence."</p> + +<p>"Such, certainly, is the case, Socrates."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec56" name= +"phaedo_sec56">56</a>. "Which, then, do you choose, Simmias: that +we are born with knowledge, or that we afterward remember what we +had formerly known?"</p> + +<p>"At present, Socrates, I am unable to choose."</p> + +<p>"But what? Are you able to choose in this case, and what do you +think about it? Can a man who possesses knowledge give a reason for +the things that he knows, or not?"</p> + +<p>"He needs must be able to do so, Socrates," he replied.</p> + +<p>"And do all men appear to you to be able to give a reason for +the things of which we have just now been speaking?"</p> + +<p>"I wish they could," said Simmias; "but I am much more afraid +that at this time to-morrow there will no longer be any one able to +do this properly."</p> + +<p>"Do not all men, then, Simmias," he said, "seem to you to know +these things?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page109' id='page109'></a>By no +means."</p> + +<p>"Do they remember, then, what they once learned?"</p> + +<p>"Necessarily so."</p> + +<p>"When did our souls receive this knowledge? Not surely, since we +were born into the world."</p> + +<p>"Assuredly not."</p> + +<p>"Before, then?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"Our souls, therefore, Simmias, existed before they were in a +human form, separate from bodies, and possessed intelligence."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec57" name= +"phaedo_sec57">57</a>. "Unless, Socrates, we receive this knowledge +at our birth, for this period yet remains."</p> + +<p>"Be it so, my friend. But at what other time do we lose it? for +we are not born with it, as we have just now admitted. Do we lose +it, then, at the very time in which we receive it? Or can you +mention any other time?"</p> + +<p>"By no means, Socrates; I was not aware that I was saying +nothing to the purpose."</p> + +<p>"Does the case then stand thus with us, Simmias?" he proceeded: +"If those things which we are continually talking about really +exist, the beautiful, the good, and every such essence, and to this +we refer all things that come under the senses, as finding it to +have a prior existence, and to be our own, and if we compare these +things to it, it necessarily follows, that as these exist, so +likewise our soul exists even before we are born; but if these do +not exist, this discussion will have been undertaken in vain, is it +not so? And is there not an equal necessity both that these things +should exist, and our souls also, before we are born; and if not +the former, neither the latter?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec58" name= +"phaedo_sec58">58</a>. "Most assuredly, Socrates," said Simmias, +"there appears to me to be the same necessity; and the argument <a +class='pagenumber' name='page110' id='page110'></a>admirably tends +to prove that our souls exist before we are born, just as that +essence does which you have now mentioned. For I hold nothing so +clear to me as this, that all such things most certainly exist, as +the beautiful, the good, and all the rest that you just now spoke +of; and, so far as I am concerned, the case is sufficiently +demonstrated."</p> + +<p>"But how does it appear to Cebes?" said Socrates; "for it is +necessary to persuade Cebes too."</p> + +<p>"He is sufficiently persuaded, I think," said Simmias, "although +he is the most pertinacious of men in distrusting arguments. Yet I +think he is sufficiently persuaded of this, that our soul existed +before we were born. But whether, when we are dead, it will still +exist does not appear to me to have been demonstrated, Socrates," +he continued; "but that popular doubt, which Cebes just now +mentioned, still stands in our way, whether, when a man dies, the +soul is not dispersed, and this is the end of its existence. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec59" name="phaedo_sec59">59</a>. +For what hinders it being born, and formed from some other source, +and existing before it came into a human body, and yet, when it has +come, and is separated from this body, its then also dying itself, +and being destroyed?"</p> + +<p>"You say well, Simmias," said Cebes; "for it appears that only +one half of what is necessary has been demonstrated—namely, +that our soul existed before we were born; but it is necessary to +demonstrate further, that when we are dead it will exist no less +than before we were born, if the demonstration is to be made +complete."</p> + +<p>"This has been even now demonstrated, Simmias and Cebes," said +Socrates, "if you will only connect this last argument with that +which we before assented to, that every thing living is produced +from that which is dead. For if the soul exists before, and it is +necessary for it when it enters into life, and is born, to be +produced from nothing else than <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page111' id='page111'></a>death, and from being dead, how is it +not necessary for it also to exist after death, since it must needs +be produced again? <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec60" name= +"phaedo_sec60">60</a>. What you require, then, has been already +demonstrated. However, both you and Simmias appear to me as if you +wished to sift this argument more thoroughly, and to be afraid, +like children, lest, on the soul's departure from the body, the +winds should blow it away and disperse it, especially if one should +happen to die, not in a calm, but in a violent storm."</p> + +<p>Upon this Cebes, smiling, said, "Endeavor to teach us better, +Socrates, as if we were afraid, or rather not as if we were afraid, +though perhaps there is some boy<a id="footnotetag30" name= +"footnotetag30" href="#footnote30"><sup>30</sup></a> within us who +has such a dread. Let us, then, endeavor to persuade him not to be +afraid of death, as of hobgoblins."</p> + +<p>"But you must charm him every day," said Socrates, "until you +have quieted his fears."</p> + +<p>"But whence, Socrates," he said, "can we procure a skillful +charmer for such a case, now that you are about to leave us?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec61" name= +"phaedo_sec61">61</a>. "Greece is wide, Cebes," he replied, "and in +it surely there are skillful men. There are also many barbarous +nations, all of which you should search through, seeking such a +charmer, sparing neither money nor toil, as there is nothing on +which you can more seasonably spend your money. You should also +seek for him among yourselves; for perhaps you could not easily +find any more competent than yourselves to do this."</p> + +<p>"This shall be done," said Cebes; "but, if it is agreeable to +you, let us return to the point from whence we digressed."</p> + +<p>"It will be agreeable to me, for how should it not?"</p> + +<p>"You say well," rejoined Cebes.</p> + +<p>"We ought, then," said Socrates, "to ask ourselves some <a +class='pagenumber' name='page112' id='page112'></a>such question as +this: to what kind of thing it appertains to be thus +affected—namely, to be dispersed—and for what we ought +to fear, lest it should be so affected, and for what not. And after +this we should consider which of the two the soul is, and in the +result should either be confident or fearful for our soul."</p> + +<p>"You speak truly," said he.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec62" name= +"phaedo_sec62">62</a>. "Does it not, then, appertain to that which +is formed by composition, and is naturally compounded, to be thus +affected, to be dissolved in the same manner as that in which it +was compounded; and if there is any thing not compounded, does it +not appertain to this alone, if to any thing, not to be thus +affected?"</p> + +<p>"It appears to me to be so," said Cebes.</p> + +<p>"Is it not most probable, then, that things which are always the +same, and in the same state, are uncompounded, but that things +which are constantly changing, and are never in the same state, are +compounded?"</p> + +<p>"To me it appears so."</p> + +<p>"Let us return, then," he said, "to the subjects on which we +before discoursed. Whether is essence itself, of which we gave this +account that it exists, both in our questions and answers, always +the same, or does it sometimes change? Does equality itself, the +beautiful itself, and each several thing which is, ever undergo any +change, however small? Or does each of them which exists, being an +unmixed essence by itself, continue always the same, and in the +same state, and never undergo any variation at all under any +circumstances?"</p> + +<p>"They must of necessity continue the same and in the same state, +Socrates," said Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec63" name= +"phaedo_sec63">63</a>. "But what shall we say of the many beautiful +things, such as men, horses, garments, or other things of the kind, +<a class='pagenumber' name='page113' id='page113'></a>whether equal +or beautiful, or of all things synonymous with them? Do they +continue the same, or, quite contrary to the former, are they never +at any time, so to say, the same, either with respect to themselves +or one another?"</p> + +<p>"These, on the other hand," replied Cebes, "never continue the +same."</p> + +<p>"These, then, you can touch, or see, or perceive by the other +senses; but those that continue the same, you can not apprehend in +any other way than by the exercise of thought; for such things are +invisible, and are not seen?"</p> + +<p>"You say what is strictly true," replied Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec64" name= +"phaedo_sec64">64</a>. "We may assume, then, if you please," he +continued, "that there are two species of things; the one visible, +the other invisible?"</p> + +<p>"We may," he said.</p> + +<p>"And the invisible always continuing the same, but the visible +never the same?"</p> + +<p>"This, too," he said, "we may assume."</p> + +<p>"Come, then," he asked, "is there anything else belonging to us +than, on the one hand, body, and, on the other, soul?"</p> + +<p>"Nothing else," he replied.</p> + +<p>"To which species, then, shall we say the body is more like, and +more nearly allied?"</p> + +<p>"It is clear to everyone," he said, "that it is to the +visible."</p> + +<p>"But what of the soul? Is it visible or invisible?"</p> + +<p>"It is not visible to men, Socrates," he replied.</p> + +<p>"But we speak of things which are visible, or not so, to the +nature of men; or to some other nature, think you?"</p> + +<p>"To that of men."</p> + +<p>"What, then, shall we say of the soul—that it is visible, +or not visible?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page114' id='page114'></a>Not +visible."</p> + +<p>"Is it, then, invisible?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"The soul, then, is more like the invisible than the body; and +the body, the visible?"</p> + +<p>"It must needs be so, Socrates."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec65" name= +"phaedo_sec65">65</a>. "And did we not, some time since, say this +too, that the soul, when it employs the body to examine any thing, +either by means of the sight or hearing, or any other sense (for to +examine any thing by means of the body is to do so by the senses), +is then drawn by the body to things that never continue the same, +and wanders and is confused, and reels as if intoxicated, through +coming into contact with things of this kind?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"But when it examines anything by itself, does it approach that +which is pure, eternal, immortal, and unchangeable, and, as being +allied to it, continue constantly with it, so long as it subsists +by itself, and has the power, and does it cease from its wandering, +and constantly continue the same with respect to those things, +through coming into contact with things of this kind? And is this +affection of the soul called wisdom?"</p> + +<p>"You speak," he said, "in every respect, well and truly, +Socrates."</p> + +<p>"To which species of the two, then, both from what was before +and now said, does the soul appear to you to be more like and more +nearly allied?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec66" name= +"phaedo_sec66">66</a>. "Every one, I think, would allow, Socrates," +he replied, "even the dullest person, from this method of +reasoning, that the soul is in every respect more like that which +continues constantly the same than that which does not so."</p> + +<p>"But what as to the body?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page115' id='page115'></a>It is +more like the other."</p> + +<p>"Consider it also thus, that, when soul and body are together, +nature enjoins the latter to be subservient and obey, the former to +rule and exercise dominion. And, in this way, which of the two +appears to you to be like the divine, and which the mortal? Does it +not appear to you to be natural that the divine should rule and +command, but the mortal obey and be subservient?"</p> + +<p>"To me it does so."</p> + +<p>"Which, then, does the soul resemble?"</p> + +<p>"It is clear, Socrates, that the soul resembles the divine; but +the body, the mortal."</p> + +<p>"Consider, then, Cebes," said he, "whether, from all that has +been said, these conclusions follow, that the soul is most like +that which is divine, immortal, intelligent, uniform, indissoluble, +and which always continues in the same state; but that the body, on +the other hand, is most like that which is human, mortal, +unintelligent, multiform, dissoluble, and which never continues in +the same state. Can we say any thing against this, my dear Cebes, +to show that it is not so?"</p> + +<p>"We can not."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec67" name= +"phaedo_sec67">67</a>. "What, then? Since these things are so, does +it not appertain to the body to be quickly dissolved, but to the +soul, on the contrary, to be altogether indissoluble or nearly +so?"</p> + +<p>"How not?"</p> + +<p>"You perceive, however," he said, "that when a man dies, the +visible part of him, the body, which is exposed to sight, and which +we call a corpse, to which it appertains to be dissolved, to fall +asunder and be dispersed, does not immediately undergo any of these +affections, but remains for a considerable time, and especially so +if any one should die <a class='pagenumber' name='page116' id= +'page116'></a>with his body in full vigor, and at a corresponding +age;<a id="footnotetag31" name="footnotetag31" href= +"#footnote31"><sup>31</sup></a> for when the body has collapsed and +been embalmed, as those that are embalmed in Egypt, it remains +almost entire for an incredible length of time; and some parts of +the body, even though it does decay, such as the bones and nerves, +and every thing of that kind, are, nevertheless, as one may say, +immortal. Is it not so?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec68" name= +"phaedo_sec68">68</a>. "Can the soul, then, which is invisible, and +which goes to another place like itself, excellent, pure and +invisible, and therefore truly called the invisible world,<a id= +"footnotetag32" name="footnotetag32" href= +"#footnote32"><sup>32</sup></a> to the presence of a good and wise +God (whither, if God will, my soul also must shortly go)—can +this soul of ours, I ask, being such and of such a nature, when +separated from the body, be immediately dispersed and destroyed, as +most men assert? Far from it, my dear Cebes and Simmias. But the +case is much rather thus: if it is separated in a pure state, +taking nothing of the body with it, as not having willingly +communicated with it in the present life, but having shunned it, +and gathered itself within itself, as constantly studying this (but +this is nothing else than to pursue philosophy aright, and in +reality to study how to die easily), would not this be to study how +to die?"</p> + +<p>"Most assuredly."</p> + +<p>"Does not the soul, then, when in this state, depart to that +which resembles itself, the invisible, the divine, immortal and +wise? And on its arrival there, is it not its lot to be happy, free +from error, ignorance, fears, wild passions, and all the other +evils to which human nature is subject; <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page117' id='page117'></a>and, as is said of the initiated, does +it not in truth pass the rest of its time with the gods? Must we +affirm that it is so, Cebes, or otherwise?"</p> + +<p>"So, by Jupiter!" said Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec69" name= +"phaedo_sec69">69</a>. "But, I think, if it departs from the body +polluted and impure, as having constantly held communion with the +body, and having served and loved it, and been bewitched by it, +through desires and pleasures, so as to think that there is nothing +real except what is corporeal, which one can touch and see, and +drink and eat, and employ for sensual purposes; but what is dark +and invisible to the eyes, which is intellectual and apprehended by +philosophy, having been accustomed to hate, fear, and shun this, do +you think that a soul thus affected can depart from the body by +itself, and uncontaminated?"</p> + +<p>"By no means whatever," he replied.</p> + +<p>"But I think it will be impressed with that which is corporeal, +which the intercourse and communion of the body, through constant +association and great attention, have made natural to it."</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"We must think, my dear Cebes, that this is ponderous and heavy, +earthly and visible, by possessing which such a soul is weighed +down, and drawn again into the visible world through dread of the +invisible and of Hades, wandering, as it is said, among monuments +and tombs, about which, indeed, certain shadowy phantoms of souls +have been seen, being such images as those souls produced which +have not departed pure from the body, but which partake of the +visible; on which account, also, they are visible."</p> + +<p>"That is probable, Socrates."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec70" name= +"phaedo_sec70">70</a>. "Probable indeed, Cebes; and not that these +are the souls of the good, but of the wicked, which are compelled +<a class='pagenumber' name='page118' id='page118'></a>to wander +about such places, paying the penalty of their former conduct, +which was evil; and they wander about so long until, through the +desire of the corporeal nature that accompanies them, they are +again united to a body; and they are united, as is probable, to +animals having the same habits as those they have given themselves +up to during life."</p> + +<p>"But what do you say these are, Socrates?"</p> + +<p>"For instance, those who have given themselves up to gluttony, +wantonness and drinking, and have put no restraint on themselves, +will probably be clothed in the form of asses and brutes of that +kind. Do you not think so?"</p> + +<p>"You say what is very probable."</p> + +<p>"And that such as have set great value on injustice, tyranny and +rapine, will be clothed in the species of wolves, hawks and kites! +Where else can we say such souls go?"</p> + +<p>"Without doubt," said Cebes, "into such as these."</p> + +<p>"Is it not, then, evident," he continued, "as to the rest, +whither each will go, according to the resemblances of their +several pursuits?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec71" name= +"phaedo_sec71">71</a>. "It is evident," he replied. "How not?"</p> + +<p>"Of these, then," he said, "are not they the most happy, and do +they not go to the best place, who have practiced that social and +civilized virtue which they call temperance and justice, and which +is produced from habit and exercise, without philosophy and +reflection?"</p> + +<p>"In what respect are these the most happy?"</p> + +<p>"Because it is probable that these should again migrate into a +corresponding civilized and peaceable kind of animals, such as bees +perhaps, or wasps, or ants, or even into the same human species +again, and from these become moderate men."</p> + +<p>"It is probable."</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page119' id='page119'></a>But it is +not lawful for any one who has not studied philosophy, and departed +this life perfectly pure, to pass into the rank of gods, but only +for the true lover of wisdom. And on this account, my friends +Simmias and Cebes, those who philosophize rightly, abstain from all +bodily desires, and persevere in doing so, and do not give +themselves up to them, not fearing the loss of property and +poverty, as the generality of men and the lovers of wealth; nor, +again, dreading disgrace and ignominy, like those who are lovers of +power and honor, do they then abstain from them."</p> + +<p>"For it would not become them to do so, Socrates," says +Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec72" name= +"phaedo_sec72">72</a>. "It would not, by Jupiter!" he rejoined. +"Wherefore, Cebes, they who care at all for their soul, and do not +spend their lives in the culture of their bodies, despising all +these, proceed not in the same way with them, as being ignorant +whither they are going, but, being convinced that they ought not to +act contrary to philosophy, but in accordance with the freedom and +purification she affords, they give themselves up to her direction, +following her wherever she leads."</p> + +<p>"How, Socrates?"</p> + +<p>"I will tell you," he replied. "The lovers of wisdom know that +philosophy, receiving their soul plainly bound and glued to the +body, and compelled to view things through this, as through a +prison, and not directly by herself, and sunk in utter ignorance, +and perceiving, too, the strength of the prison, that it arises +from desire, so that he who is bound as much as possible assists in +binding himself. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec73" name= +"phaedo_sec73">73</a>. I say, then, the lovers of wisdom know that +philosophy, receiving their soul in this state, gently exhorts it, +and endeavors to free it, by showing that the view of things by +means of the eyes is full of deception, as also is that through the +ears and the <a class='pagenumber' name='page120' id= +'page120'></a>other senses; persuading an abandonment of these so +far as it is not absolutely necessary to use them, and advising the +soul to be collected and concentrated within itself, and to believe +nothing else than herself, with respect to what she herself +understands of things that have a real subsistence; and to consider +nothing true which she views through the medium of others, and +which differ under different aspects;<a id="footnotetag33" name= +"footnotetag33" href="#footnote33"><sup>33</sup></a> for that a +thing of this kind is sensible and visible, but that what she +herself perceives is intelligible and invisible. The soul of the +true philosopher, therefore, thinking that she ought not to oppose +this deliverance, accordingly abstains as much as possible from +pleasures and desires, griefs and fears, considering that when any +one is exceedingly delighted or alarmed, grieved or influenced by +desire, he does not merely suffer such evil from these things as +one might suppose, such as either being sick or wasting his +property through indulging his desires; but that which is the +greatest evil, and the worst of all, this he suffers, and is not +conscious of it."</p> + +<p>"But what is this evil, Socrates?" said Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec74" name= +"phaedo_sec74">74</a>. "That the soul of every man is compelled to +be either vehemently delighted or grieved about some particular +thing, and, at the same time, to consider that the thing about +which it is thus strongly affected is most real and most true, +though it is not so. But these are chiefly visible objects, are +they not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"In this state of affection, then, is not the soul especially +shackled by the body?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page121' id='page121'></a>How +so?"</p> + +<p>"Because each pleasure and pain, having a nail, as it were, +nails the soul to the body, and fastens it to it, and causes it to +become corporeal, deeming those things to be true whatever the body +asserts to be so. For, in consequence of its forming the same +opinions with the body, and delighting in the same things, it is +compelled, I think, to possess similar manners, and to be similarly +nourished; so that it can never pass into Hades in a pure state, +but must ever depart polluted by the body, and so quickly falls +again into another body, and grows up as if it were sown, and +consequently is deprived of all association with that which is +divine, and pure, and uniform."</p> + +<p>"You speak most truly, Socrates," said Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec75" name= +"phaedo_sec75">75</a>. "For these reasons, therefore, Cebes, those +who are truly lovers of wisdom are moderate and resolute, and not +for the reasons that most people say. Do you think as they do?"</p> + +<p>"Assuredly not."</p> + +<p>"No, truly. But the soul of a philosopher would reason thus, and +would not think that philosophy ought to set it free, and that when +it is freed it should give itself up again to pleasures and pains, +to bind it down again, and make her work void, weaving a kind of +Penelope's web the reverse way. On the contrary, effecting a calm +of the passions, and following the guidance of reason, and being +always intent on this, contemplating that which is true and divine, +and not subject to opinion; and being nourished by it, it thinks +that it ought to live in this manner as long as it does live, and +that when it dies it shall go to a kindred essence, and one like +itself, and shall be free from human evils. From such a regimen as +this the soul has no occasion to fear, Simmias and Cebes, while it +strictly attends to these things, lest, <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page122' id='page122'></a>being torn to pieces at its departure +from the body, it should be blown about and dissipated by the +winds, and no longer have an existence anywhere."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec76" name= +"phaedo_sec76">76</a>. When Socrates had thus spoken, a long +silence ensued; and Socrates himself was pondering upon what had +been said, as he appeared, and so did most of us; but Cebes and +Simmias were conversing a little while with each other. At length +Socrates, perceiving them, said, "What think you of what has been +said? Does it appear to you to have been proved sufficiently? for +many doubts and objections still remain if any one will examine +them thoroughly. If, then, you are considering some other subject, +I have nothing to say; but if you are doubting about this, do not +hesitate both yourselves to speak and express your opinion, if it +appears to you in any respect that it might have been argued +better, and to call me in again to your assistance, if you think +you can be at all benefited by my help."</p> + +<p>Upon this Simmias said, "Indeed, Socrates, I will tell you the +truth: for some time each of us, being in doubt, has been urging +and exhorting the other to question you, from a desire to hear our +doubts solved; but we were afraid of giving you trouble, lest it +should be disagreeable to you in your present circumstances."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec77" name= +"phaedo_sec77">77</a>. But he, upon hearing this, gently smiled, +and said, "Bless me, Simmias; with difficulty, indeed, could I +persuade other men that I do not consider my present condition a +calamity, since I am not able to persuade even you; but you are +afraid lest I should be more morose now than during the former part +of my life. And, as it seems, I appear to you to be inferior to +swans with respect to divination, who, when they perceive that they +must needs die, though they have been used to sing before, sing +then more than ever, rejoicing that they are about to depart to +that <a class='pagenumber' name='page123' id='page123'></a>deity +whose servants they are. But men, through their own fear of death, +belie the swans too, and say that they, lamenting their death, sing +their last song through grief; and they do not consider that no +bird sings when it is hungry or cold, or is afflicted with any +other pain, not even the nightingale, or swallow, or the hoopoes, +which, they say, sing lamenting through grief. But neither do these +birds appear to me to sing through sorrow, nor yet do swans; but, +in my opinion, belonging to Apollo, they are prophetic, and, +foreseeing the blessings of Hades, they sing and rejoice on that +day more excellently than at any preceding time. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec78" name="phaedo_sec78">78</a>. But +I, too, consider myself to be a fellow-servant of the swans, and +sacred to the same god; and that I have received the power of +divination from our common master no less than they, and that I do +not depart from this life with less spirits than they. On this +account, therefore, it is right that you should both speak and ask +whatever you please, so long as the Athenian Eleven permit."</p> + +<p>"You say well," said Simmias, "and both I will tell you what are +my doubts, and he, in turn, how far he does not assent to what has +been said. For it appears to me, Socrates, probably as it does to +you with respect to these matters, that to know them clearly in the +present life is either impossible or very difficult: on the other +hand, however, not to test what has been said of them in every +possible way, so as not to desist until, on examining them in every +point of view, one has exhausted every effort, is the part of a +very weak man. For we ought, with respect to these things, either +to learn from others how they stand or to discover them for one's +self; or, if both these are impossible, then, taking the best of +human reasonings and that which is the most difficult to be +confuted, and embarking on this, as one who risks himself on a +raft, so to sail through life, unless <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page124' id='page124'></a>one could be carried more safely, and +with less risk, on a surer conveyance, or some divine reason. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec79" name="phaedo_sec79">79</a>. +I, therefore, shall not now be ashamed to question you, since you +bid me do so, nor shall I blame myself hereafter for not having now +told you what I think; for to me, Socrates, when I consider the +matter, both with myself and with Cebes, what has been said does +not appear to have been sufficiently proved."</p> + +<p>Then said Socrates, "Perhaps, my friend, you have the truth on +your side; but tell me in what respect it was not sufficiently +proved."</p> + +<p>"In this," he answered, "because any one might use the same +argument with respect to harmony, and a lyre, and its chords, that +harmony is something invisible and incorporeal, very beautiful and +divine, in a well-modulated lyre; but the lyre and its chords are +bodies, and of corporeal form, compounded and earthly, and akin to +that which is mortal. When any one, then, has either broken the +lyre, or cut or burst the chords, he might maintain from the same +reasoning as yours that it is necessary the harmony should still +exist and not be destroyed; for there could be no possibility that +the lyre should subsist any longer when the chords are burst; and +that the chords, which are of a mortal nature, should subsist, but +that the harmony, which is of the same nature and akin to that +which is divine and immortal, should become extinct, and perish +before that which is mortal; but he might say that the harmony must +needs subsist somewhere, and that the wood and chords must decay +before it can undergo any change. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec80" name="phaedo_sec80">80</a>. For I think, Socrates, +that you yourself have arrived at this conclusion, that we consider +the soul to be pretty much of this kind—namely, that our body +being compacted and held together by heat and cold, dryness and +moisture, and other <a class='pagenumber' name='page125' id= +'page125'></a>such qualities, our soul is the fusion and harmony of +these, when they are well and duly combined with each other. If, +then, the soul is a kind of harmony, it is evident that when our +bodies are unduly relaxed or strained, through diseases and other +maladies, the soul must, of necessity, immediately perish, although +it is most divine, just as other harmonies which subsist in sounds +or in the various works of artisans; but that the remains of the +body of each person last for a long time, till they are either +burned or decayed. Consider, then, what we shall say to this +reasoning, if any one should maintain that the soul, being a fusion +of the several qualities in the body, perishes first in that which +is called death."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec81" name= +"phaedo_sec81">81</a>. Socrates, therefore, looking steadfastly at +us, as he was generally accustomed to do, and smiling, said, +"Simmias indeed speaks justly. If, then, any one of you is more +prompt than I am, why does he not answer, for he seems to have +handled my argument not badly? It appears to me, however, that +before we make our reply we should first hear from Cebes, what he, +too, objects to our argument, in order that, some time intervening, +we may consider what we shall say, and then when we have heard +them, we may give up to them, if they appear to speak agreeably to +truth; or, if not, we may then uphold our own argument. Come, then, +Cebes," he continued, "say what it is that disturbs you, so as to +cause your unbelief."</p> + +<p>"I will tell you," said Cebes; "the argument seems to me to rest +where it was, and to be liable to the same objection that we +mentioned before. For, that our soul existed even before It came +into this present form, I do not deny has been very elegantly, and, +if it is not too much to say so, very fully, demonstrated; but that +it still exists anywhere when we are dead does not appear to me to +have been clearly proved; nor do I give in to the objection of +Simmias, that <a class='pagenumber' name='page126' id= +'page126'></a>the soul is not stronger and more durable than the +body, for it appears to me to excel very far all things of this +kind. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec82" name= +"phaedo_sec82">82</a>. 'Why, then,' reason might say, 'do you still +disbelieve? for, since you see that when a man dies his weaker part +still exists, does it not appear to you to be necessary that the +more durable part should still be preserved during this period?' +Consider, then, whether I say any thing to the purpose in reply to +this. For I, too, as well as Simmias, as it seems, stand in need of +an illustration; for the argument appears to me to have been put +thus, as if any one should advance this argument about an aged +weaver who had died, that the man has not yet perished, but perhaps +still exists somewhere; and, as a proof, should exhibit the garment +which he wore and had woven himself, that it is entire and has not +perished; and if any one should disbelieve him, he would ask, which +of the two is the more durable, the species of a man or of a +garment, that is constantly in use and being worn; then, should any +one answer that the species of man is much more durable, he would +think it demonstrated that, beyond all question, the man is +preserved, since that which is less durable has not perished. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec83" name="phaedo_sec83">83</a>. +But I do not think, Simmias, that this is the case, and do you +consider what I say, for every one must think that he who argues +thus argues, foolishly. For this weaver, having worn and woven many +such garments, perished after almost all of them, but before the +last, I suppose; and yet it does not on this account follow any the +more that a man is inferior to or weaker than a garment. And I +think, the soul might admit this same illustration with respect to +the body, and he who should say the same things concerning them +would appear to me to speak correctly, that the soul is more +durable, but the body weaker and less durable; for he would say +that each soul wears out many bodies, especially <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page127' id='page127'></a>if it lives many +years; for if the body wastes and is dissolved while the man still +lives, but the soul continually weaves anew what is worn out, it +must necessarily follow that when the soul is dissolved it must +then have on its last garment, and perish before this alone; but +when the soul has perished the body would show the weakness of its +nature, and quickly rot and vanish. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec84" name="phaedo_sec84">84</a>. So that it is not by any +means right to place implicit reliance on this argument, and to +believe that when we die our soul still exists somewhere. For, if +any one should concede to him who admits even more than you do, and +should grant to him that not only did our soul exist before we were +born, but that even when we die nothing hinders the souls of some +of us from still existing, and continuing to exist hereafter, and +from being often born, and dying again—for so strong is it by +nature, that it can hold out against repeated births—if he +granted this, he would not yet concede that it does not exhaust +itself in its many births, and at length perish altogether in some +one of the deaths. But he would say that no one knows this death +and dissolution of the body, which brings destruction to the soul; +for it is impossible for any one of us to perceive it. If, however, +this be the case, it follows that every one who is confident at the +approach of death is foolishly confident, unless he is able to +prove that the soul is absolutely immortal and imperishable; +otherwise it necessarily follows that he who is about to die must +be alarmed for his soul, lest in its present disunion from the body +it should entirely perish."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec85" name= +"phaedo_sec85">85</a>. Upon this, all of us who had heard them +speaking were disagreeably affected, as we afterward mentioned to +each other; because, after we had been fully persuaded by the +former arguments, they seemed to disturb us anew, and to cast us +into a distrust, not only of the arguments already <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page128' id='page128'></a>adduced, but of such +as might afterward be urged, for fear lest we should not be fit +judges of anything, or lest the things themselves should be +incredible.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Echec.</span> By the gods! +Phædo, I can readily excuse you; for, while I am now hearing +you, it occurs to me to ask myself some such question as this: What +arguments can we any longer believe? since the argument which +Socrates advanced, and which was exceedingly credible, has now +fallen into discredit. For this argument, that our soul is a kind +of harmony, produces a wonderful impression on me, both now and +always, and in being mentioned, it has reminded me, as it were, +that I, too, was formerly of the same opinion; so that I stand in +need again, as if from the very beginning, of some other argument +which may persuade me that the soul of one who dies does not die +with the body. Tell me, therefore, by Jupiter! how Socrates +followed up the argument; and whether he, too, as you confess was +the case with yourselves, seemed disconcerted at all, or not, but +calmly maintained his position; and maintained it sufficiently or +defectively. Relate everything to me as accurately as you can.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec86" name= +"phaedo_sec86">86</a>. <span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> +Indeed, Echecrates, though I have often admired Socrates, I was +never more delighted than at being with him on that occasion. That +he should be able to say something is perhaps not at all +surprising; but I especially admired this in him—first of +all, that he listened to the argument of the young men so sweetly, +affably, and approvingly; in the next place, that he so quickly +perceived how we were affected by their arguments; and, lastly, +that he cured us so well and recalled us, when we were put to +flight, as it were, and vanquished, and encouraged us to accompany +him, and consider the argument with him.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Echec.</span> How was that?</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page129' id='page129'></a><span +class="speakername">Phæd.</span> I will tell you: I happened +to be sitting at his right hand, near the bed, upon a low seat, but +he himself sat much higher than I. Stroking my head, then, and +laying hold of the hair that hung on my neck—for he used, +often, to play with my hairs—"To-morrow," he said, "perhaps, +Phædo, you will cut off these beautiful locks?"</p> + +<p>"It seems likely, Socrates," said I.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec87" name= +"phaedo_sec87">87</a>. "Not if you are persuaded by me."</p> + +<p>"Why so?" I asked.</p> + +<p>"To-day," he replied, "both I ought to cut off mine and you +yours, if our argument must die, and we are unable to revive it. +And I, if I were you, and the arguments were to escape me, would +take an oath, as the Argives do, not to suffer my hair to grow +until I had renewed the contest, and vanquished the arguments of +Simmias and Cebes."</p> + +<p>"But," I said, "even Hercules himself is said not to have been a +match for two."</p> + +<p>"Call upon me, then," he said, "as your Iolaus, while it is yet +day."</p> + +<p>"I do call on you, then," I said, "not as Hercules upon Iolaus, +but as Iolaus upon Hercules."</p> + +<p>"It will make no difference," he replied. "But, first of all, we +must beware lest we meet with some mischance."</p> + +<p>"What?" I asked.</p> + +<p>"That we do not become," he answered, "haters of reasoning, as +some become haters of men; for no greater evil can happen to any +one than to hate reasoning. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec88" name="phaedo_sec88">88</a>. But hatred of reasoning +and hatred of mankind both spring from the same source. For hatred +of mankind is produced in us from having placed too great reliance +on some one without sufficient knowledge of him, and from having +considered him to be a man altogether true, sincere, and faithful, +and then, after a little while, finding him depraved and <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page130' id='page130'></a>unfaithful, and after +him another. And when a man has often experienced this, and +especially from those whom he considered his most intimate and best +friends, at length, having frequently stumbled, he hates all men, +and thinks that there is no soundness at all in any of them. Have +you not perceived that this happens so?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," I replied.</p> + +<p>"Is it not a shame?" he said "And is it not evident that such a +one attempts to deal with men without sufficient knowledge of human +affairs? For if he had dealt with them with competent knowledge, as +the case really is, so he would have considered that the good and +the bad are each very few in number, and that those between both +are most numerous."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec89" name= +"phaedo_sec89">89</a>. "How say you?" I asked.</p> + +<p>"In the same manner," he replied, "as with things very little +and very large Do you think that any thing is more rare than to +find a very large on a very little man, or dog, or any thing else? +and, again, swift or slow, beautiful or ugly, white or black? Do +you not perceive that of all such things the extremes are rare and +few, but that the intermediate are abundant and numerous?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," I replied.</p> + +<p>"Do you not think, then," he continued, "that if a contest in +wickedness were proposed, even here very few would be found +pre-eminent?"</p> + +<p>"It is probable," I said.</p> + +<p>"It is so," he said, "but in this respect reasonings do not +resemble men, for I was just now following you as my leader, but in +this they do resemble them, when any one believes in any argument +as true without being skilled in the art of reasoning, and then +shortly afterward it appears to him to be false, at one time being +so and at another time <a class='pagenumber' name='page131' id= +'page131'></a>not, and so on with one after another,<a id= +"footnotetag34" name="footnotetag34" href= +"#footnote34"><sup>34</sup></a> and especially they who devote +themselves to controversial arguments, you are aware, at length +think they have become very wise and have alone discovered that +there is nothing sound and stable either in things or reasonings +but that all things that exist, as is the case with the Euripus, +are in a constant state of flux and reflux, and never continue in +any one condition for any length of time."</p> + +<p>"You speak perfectly true," I said.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec90" name= +"phaedo_sec90">90</a>. "Would it not, then, Phædo" he said +"be a sad thing if, when there is a true and sound reasoning, and +such as one can understand, one should then, through lighting upon +such arguments as appear to be at one time true and at another +false, not blame one's self and one's own want of skill, but at +length, through grief, should anxiously transfer the blame from +one's self to the arguments, and thereupon pass the rest of one's +life in hating and reviling arguments and so be depraved of the +truth and knowledge of things that exist?"</p> + +<p>"By Jupiter!" I said, "it would be sad, indeed."</p> + +<p>"In the first place, then," he said, "let us beware of this, and +let us not admit into our souls the notion that there appears to be +nothing sound in reasoning, but much rather that we are not yet in +a sound condition, and that we ought vigorously and strenuously to +endeavor to become sound, you and the others, on account of your +whole future life, but I, on account of my death, since I am in +danger, at the <a class='pagenumber' name='page132' id= +'page132'></a>present time, of not behaving as becomes a +philosopher with respect to this very subject, but as a wrangler, +like those who are utterly uninformed <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec91" name="phaedo_sec91">91</a>. For they, when they +dispute about any thing, care nothing at all for the subject about +which the discussion is, but are anxious about this, that what they +have themselves advanced shall appear true to the persons present. +And I seem to myself on the present occasion to differ from them +only in this respect, for I shall not be anxious to make what I say +appear true to those who are present, except that may happen by the +way, but that it may appear certainly to be so to myself. For I +thus reason, my dear friend, and observe how interestedly. If what +I say be true, it is well to be persuaded of it, but if nothing +remains to one that is dead, I shall, at least, during the interval +before death be less disagreeable to those present by my +lamentations. But this ignorance of mine will not continue long, +for that would be bad, but will shortly be put an end to. Thus +prepared, then, Simmias and Cebes," he continued, "I now proceed to +my argument. Do you, however, if you will be persuaded by me, pay +little attention to Socrates, but much more to the truth, and if I +appear to you to say any thing true, assent to it, but if not, +oppose me with all your might, taking good care that in my zeal I +do not deceive both myself and you, and, like a bee, depart leaving +my sting behind."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec92" name= +"phaedo_sec92">92</a>. "But let us proceed," he said "First of all, +remind me of what you said, if I should appear to have forgotten it +For Simmias, as I think, is in doubt, and fears lest the soul, +though more divine and beautiful than the body, should perish +before it, as being a species of harmony. But Cebes appeared to me +to grant me this, that the soul is more durable than the body, but +he argued that it is uncertain to every one, whether when the soul +has worn out many bodies <a class='pagenumber' name='page133' id= +'page133'></a>and that repeatedly, it does not, on leaving the last +body, itself also perish, so that this very thing is death, the +destruction of the soul, since the body never ceases decaying Are +not these the things, Simmias and Cebes, which we have to inquire +into?"</p> + +<p>They both agreed that they were.</p> + +<p>"Whether, then," he continued "do you reject all our former +arguments, or some of them only, and not others?"</p> + +<p>"Some we do," they replied, "and others not."</p> + +<p>"What, then," he proceeded, "do you say about that argument in +which we asserted that knowledge is reminiscence, and that, this +being the case, our soul must necessarily have existed somewhere +before it was inclosed in the body?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec93" name= +"phaedo_sec93">93</a>. "I, indeed," replied Cebes "was both then +wonderfully persuaded by it, and now persist in it, as in no other +argument."</p> + +<p>"And I, too," said Simmias, "am of the same mind, and should +very much wonder if I should ever think otherwise on that +point."</p> + +<p>"Then," Socrates said, "you must needs think otherwise, my +Theban friend, if this opinion holds good, that harmony is +something compounded, and that the soul is a kind of harmony that +results from the parts compacted together in the body. For surely +you will not allow yourself to say that harmony was composed prior +to the things from which it required to be composed Would you allow +this?"</p> + +<p>"By no means, Socrates" he replied.</p> + +<p>"Do you perceive, then," he said, "that this result from what +you say, when you assert that the soul existed before it came into +a human form and body, but that it was composed from things that +did not yet exist? For harmony is not such as that to which you +compare it, but first the <a class='pagenumber' name='page134' id= +'page134'></a>lyre, and the chords, and the sounds yet +unharmonized, exist, and, last of all, harmony is produced, and +first perishes. How, then, will this argument accord with +that?"</p> + +<p>"Not at all," said Simmias.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec94" name= +"phaedo_sec94">94</a>. "And yet," he said, "if in any argument, +there ought to be an accordance in one respecting harmony."</p> + +<p>"There ought," said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"This of yours, however," he said, "is not in accordance. +Consider, then, which of these two statements do you +prefer—that knowledge is reminiscence, or the soul +harmony?"</p> + +<p>"The former by far, Socrates," he replied; "for the latter +occurred to me without demonstration, through a certain probability +and speciousness whence most men derive their opinions. But I am +well aware that arguments which draw their demonstrations from +probabilities are idle; and, unless one is on one's guard against +them, they are very deceptive, both in geometry and all other +subjects. But the argument respecting reminiscence and knowledge +may be said to have been demonstrated by a satisfactory hypothesis. +For in this way it was said that our soul existed before it came +into the body, because the essence that bears the appellation of +'that which is' belongs to it. But of this, as I persuade myself, I +am fully and rightly convinced. It is therefore necessary, as it +seems, that I should neither allow myself nor any one else to +maintain that the soul is harmony."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec95" name= +"phaedo_sec95">95</a>. "But what, Simmias," said he, "if you +consider it thus? Does it appear to you to appertain to harmony, or +to any other composition, to subsist in any other way than the very +things do of which it is composed?"</p> + +<p>"By no means."</p> + +<p>"And indeed, as I think, neither to do any thing, nor suffer any +thing else, besides what they do or suffer."</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page135' id='page135'></a>He +agreed.</p> + +<p>"It does not, therefore, appertain to harmony to take the lead +of the things of which it is composed, but to follow them."</p> + +<p>He assented.</p> + +<p>"It is, then, far from being the case that harmony is moved or +sends forth sounds contrariwise, or is in any other respect opposed +to its parts?"</p> + +<p>"Far, indeed," he said.</p> + +<p>"What, then? Is not every harmony naturally harmony, so far as +it has been made to accord?"</p> + +<p>"I do not understand you," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Whether," he said, "if it should be in a greater degree and +more fully made to accord, supposing that were possible, would the +harmony be greater and more full; but if in a less degree and less +fully, then would it be inferior and less full?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"Is this, then, the case with the soul that, even in the +smallest extent, one soul is more fully and in a greater degree, or +less fully and in a less degree, this very thing, a soul, than +another?"</p> + +<p>"In no respect whatever," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec96" name= +"phaedo_sec96">96</a>. "Well, then," he said, "by Jupiter! is one +soul said to possess intelligence and virtue, and to be good, and +another folly and vice, and to be bad? and is this said with +truth?"</p> + +<p>"With truth, certainly."</p> + +<p>"Of those, then, who maintain that the soul is harmony, what +will any one say that these things are in the soul, virtue and +vice? Will he call them another kind of harmony and discord, and +say that the one, the good soul, is harmonized, and, being harmony, +contains within itself another <a class='pagenumber' name='page136' +id='page136'></a>harmony, but that the other is discordant, and +does not contain within itself another harmony?"</p> + +<p>"I am unable to say," replied Simmias; "but it is clear that he +who maintains that opinion would say something of the kind."</p> + +<p>"But it has been already granted," said he, "that one soul is +not more or less a soul than another; and this is an admission that +one harmony is not to a greater degree or more fully, or to a less +degree or less fully, a harmony, than another; is it not so?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"And that that which is neither more or less harmony is neither +more nor less harmonized: is it so?"</p> + +<p>"It is."</p> + +<p>"But does that which is neither more or less harmonized partake +of more or less harmony, or an equal amount?"</p> + +<p>"An equal amount."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec97" name= +"phaedo_sec97">97</a>. "A soul, therefore, since it is not more or +less this very thing, a soul, than another, is not more or less +harmonized?"</p> + +<p>"Even so."</p> + +<p>"Such, then, being its condition, it can not partake of a +greater degree of discord or harmony?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly not."</p> + +<p>"And, again, such being its condition, can one soul partake of a +greater degree of vice or virtue than another, if vice be discord, +and virtue harmony?"</p> + +<p>"It can not."</p> + +<p>"Or rather, surely, Simmias, according to right reason, no soul +will partake of vice, if it is harmony; for doubtless harmony, +which is perfectly such, can never partake of discord?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly not."</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page137' id='page137'></a>Neither, +therefore, can a soul which is perfectly a soul partake of +vice."</p> + +<p>"How can it, from what has been already said?"</p> + +<p>"From this reasoning, then, all souls of all animals will be +equally good, if, at least, they are by nature equally this very +thing, souls?"</p> + +<p>"It appears so to me, Socrates," he said.</p> + +<p>"And does it appear to you," he said, "to have been thus rightly +argued, and that the argument would lead to this result, if the +hypothesis were correct, that the soul is harmony?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec98" name= +"phaedo_sec98">98</a>. "On no account whatever," he replied.</p> + +<p>"But what," said he, "of all the things that are in man? Is +there any thing else that you say bears rule except the soul, +especially if it be wise?"</p> + +<p>"I should say not."</p> + +<p>"Whether by yielding to the passions in the body, or by opposing +them? My meaning is this: for instance, when heat and thirst are +present, by drawing it the contrary way, so as to hinder it from +drinking; and when hunger is present, by hindering it from eating; +and in ten thousand other instances we see the soul opposing the +desires of the body. Do we not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"But have we not before allowed that if the soul were harmony, +it would never utter a sound contrary to the tension, relaxation, +vibration, or any other affection to which its component parts are +subject, but would follow, and never govern them?"</p> + +<p>"We did allow it," he replied, "for how could we do +otherwise?"</p> + +<p>"What, then? Does not the soul now appear to act quite the +contrary, ruling over all the parts from which any one <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page138' id='page138'></a>might say it subsists, +and resisting almost all of them through the whole of life, and +exercising dominion over them in all manner of ways; punishing some +more severely even with pain, both by gymnastics and medicine, and +others more mildly; partly threatening, and partly admonishing the +desires, angers and fears, as if, being itself of a different +nature, it were conversing with something quite different? <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec99" name="phaedo_sec99">99</a>. +Just as Homer has done in the Odyssey,<a id="footnotetag35" name= +"footnotetag35" href="#footnote35"><sup>35</sup></a> where he +speaks of Ulysses—'Having struck his breast, he chid his +heart in the following words: Bear up, my heart; ere this thou hast +borne far worse.' Do you think that he composed this in the belief +that the soul was harmony, and capable of being led by the passions +of the body, and not rather that it was able to lead and govern +them, as being something much more divine than to be compared with +harmony?"</p> + +<p>"By Jupiter! Socrates, it appears so to me."</p> + +<p>"Therefore, my excellent friend, it is on no account correct for +us to say that the soul is a kind of harmony; for, as it appears, +we should neither agree with Homer, that divine poet, nor with +ourselves."</p> + +<p>"Such is the case," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Be it so, then," said Socrates, "we have already, as it seems, +sufficiently appeased this Theban harmony. But how, Cebes, and by +what arguments, shall we appease this Cadmus?"<a id="footnotetag36" +name="footnotetag36" href="#footnote36"><sup>36</sup></a></p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec100" name= +"phaedo_sec100">100</a>. "You appear to me," replied Cebes, "to be +likely to find out; for you have made out this argument against +harmony wonderfully beyond my expectation. For when Simmias <a +class='pagenumber' name='page139' id='page139'></a>was saying what +his doubts were, I wondered very much whether any one would be able +to answer his reasoning. It, therefore, appeared to me +unaccountable that he did not withstand the very first onset of +your argument. I should not, therefore, be surprised if the +arguments of Cadmus met with the same fate."</p> + +<p>"My good friend," said Socrates, "do not speak so boastfully, +lest some envious power should overthrow the argument that is about +to be urged. These things, however, will be cared for by the deity; +but let us, meeting hand to hand, in the manner of Homer, try +whether you say any thing to the purpose. This, then, is the sum of +what you inquire you require it to be proved that our soul is +imperishable and immortal; if a philosopher that is about to die, +full of confidence and hope that after death he shall be far +happier than if he had died after leading a different kind of life, +shall not entertain this confidence foolishly and vainly. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec101" name="phaedo_sec101">101</a>. +But to show that the soul is something strong and divine, and that +it existed before we men were born, you say not at all hinders, but +that all these things may evince, not its immortality, but that the +soul is durable, and existed an immense space of time before, and +knew and did many things. But that, for all this, it was not at all +the more immortal, but that its very entrance into the body of a +man was the beginning of its destruction, as if it were a disease; +so that it passes through this life in wretchedness, and at last +perishes in that which is called death. But you say that it is of +no consequence whether it comes into a body once or often, with +respect to our occasion of fear; for it is right he should be +afraid, unless he is foolish, who does not know, and can not give a +reason to prove, that the soul is immortal. Such, I think, Cebes, +is the sum of what you say; and I purposely repeat it often, that +nothing <a class='pagenumber' name='page140' id='page140'></a>may +escape us, and, if you please, you may add to or take from it."</p> + +<p>Cebes replied, "I do not wish at present either to take from or +add to it; that is what I mean."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec102" name= +"phaedo_sec102">102</a>. Socrates, then having paused for some +time, and considered something within himself, said, "You inquire +into no easy matter, Cebes; for it is absolutely necessary to +discuss the whole question of generation and corruption. If you +please, then, I will relate to you what happened to me with +reference to them; and afterward, if any thing that I shall say +shall appear to you useful toward producing conviction on the +subject you are now treating of, make use of it."</p> + +<p>"I do indeed wish it," replied Cebes.</p> + +<p>"Hear my relation, then. When I was a young man, Cebes, I was +wonderfully desirous of that wisdom which they call a history of +nature; for it appeared to me to be a very sublime thing to know +the causes of every thing—why each thing is generated, why it +perishes, and why it exists. And I often tossed myself upward and +downward, considering first such things as these, whether when heat +and cold have undergone a certain corruption, as some say, then +animals are formed; and whether the blood is that by means of which +we think, or air, or fire, or none of these, but that it is the +brain that produces the perceptions of hearing, seeing, and +smelling; and that from these come memory and opinion; and from +memory and opinion, when in a state of rest, in the same way +knowledge is produced. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec103" +name="phaedo_sec103">103</a>. And, again, considering the +corruptions of these, and the affections incidental to the heavens +and the earth, I at length appeared to myself so unskillful in +these speculations that nothing could be more so. But I will give +you a sufficient proof of this; for I then became, by these very +speculations, <a class='pagenumber' name='page141' id= +'page141'></a>so very blind with respect to things which I knew +clearly before, as it appeared to myself and others, that I +unlearned even the things which I thought I knew before, both on +many other subjects and also this, why a man grows. For, before, I +thought this was evident to every one—that it proceeds from +eating and drinking; for that, when, from the food, flesh is added +to flesh, bone to bone, and so on in the same proportion, what is +proper to them is added to the several other parts, then the bulk +which was small becomes afterward large, and thus that a little man +becomes a big one. Such was my opinion at that time. Does it appear +to you correct?"</p> + +<p>"To me it does," said Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec104" name= +"phaedo_sec104">104</a>. "Consider this further. I thought that I +had formed a right opinion, when, on seeing a tall man standing by +a short one, I judged that he was taller by the head, and in like +manner, one horse than another; and, still more clearly than this, +ten appeared to me to be more than eight by two being added to +them, and that two cubits are greater than one cubit by exceeding +it a half."</p> + +<p>"But now," said Cebes, "what think you of these matters?"</p> + +<p>"By Jupiter!" said he, "I am far from thinking that I know the +cause of these, for that I can not even persuade myself of this: +when a person has added one to one, whether the one to which the +addition has been made has become two, or whether that which has +been added, and that to which the addition has been made, have +become two by the addition of the one to the other. For I wonder +if, when each of these was separate from the other, each was one, +and they were not yet two; but when they have approached nearer +each other this should be the cause of their becoming +two—namely, the union by which they have been placed <a +class='pagenumber' name='page142' id='page142'></a>nearer one +another. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec105" name= +"phaedo_sec105">105</a>. Nor yet, if any person should divide one, +am I able to persuade myself that this, their division, is the +cause of its becoming two. For this cause is the contrary to the +former one of their becoming two; for then it was because they were +brought nearer to each other, and the one was added to the other; +but now it is because one is removed and separated from the other. +Nor do I yet persuade myself that I know why one is one, nor, in a +word, why any thing else is produced, or perishes, or exists, +according to this method of proceeding; but I mix up another method +of my own at random, for this I can on no account give in to."</p> + +<p>"But, having once heard a person reading from a book, written, +as he said, by Anaxagoras, and which said that it is intelligence +that sets in order and is the cause of all things, I was delighted +with this cause, and it appeared to me in a manner to be well that +intelligence should be the cause of all things, and I considered +with myself, if this is so, that the regulating intelligence orders +all things, and disposes each in such way as will be best for it. +<a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec106" name= +"phaedo_sec106">106</a>. If any one, then, should desire to +discover the cause of every thing, in what way it is produced, or +perishes, or exists, he must discover this respecting it—in +what way it is best for it either to exist, or to suffer, or do any +thing else. From this mode of reasoning, then, it is proper that a +man should consider nothing else, both with respect to himself and +others, than what is most excellent and best; and it necessarily +follows that this same person must also know that which is worst, +for that the knowledge of both of them is the same. Thus reasoning +with myself, I was delighted to think I had found in Anaxagoras a +preceptor who would instruct me in the causes of things, agreeably +to my own mind, and that he would inform me, first, whether the +earth is flat or round, <a class='pagenumber' name='page143' id= +'page143'></a>and, when he had informed me, would, moreover, +explain the cause and necessity of its being so, arguing on the +principle of the better, and showing that it is better for it to be +such as it is; and if he should say that it is in the middle, that +he would, moreover, explain how it is better for it to be in the +middle; and if he should make all this clear to me, I was prepared +no longer to require any other species of cause. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec107" name="phaedo_sec107">107</a>. I +was in like manner prepared to inquire respecting the sun and moon +and the other stars, with respect to their velocities in reference +to each other, and their revolutions and other conditions, in what +way it is better for both to act and be affected as it does and is. +For I never thought that after he had said that these things were +set in order by intelligence, he would introduce any other cause +for them than that it is best for them to be as they are. Hence, I +thought, that in assigning the cause to each of them, and to all in +common, he would explain that which is best for each, and the +common good of all. And I would not have given up my hopes for a +good deal; but, having taken up his books with great eagerness, I +read through them as quickly as I could, that I might as soon as +possible know the best and the worst."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec108" name= +"phaedo_sec108">108</a>. "From this wonderful hope, however, my +friend, I was speedily thrown down, when, as I advance and read +over his works, I meet with a man who makes no use of intelligence, +nor assigns any causes for the ordering of all things, but makes +the causes to consist of air, ether, and water, and many other +things equally absurd. And he appeared to me to be very like one +who should say that whatever Socrates does he does by intelligence, +and then, attempting to describe the causes of each particular +action, should say, first of all, that for this reason I am now +sitting here, because my body is composed of bones and sinews <a +class='pagenumber' name='page144' id='page144'></a>and that the +bones are hard, and have joints separate from each other, but that +the sinews, being capable of tension and contraction, cover the +bones, together with the flesh and skin which contain them. The +bones, therefore, being suspended in their sockets, the nerves, +relaxing and tightening, enable me to bend my limbs as I now do, +and from this cause I sit here bent up. <a class="sectionnumber" +id="phaedo_sec109" name="phaedo_sec109">109</a>. And if, again, he +should assign other similar causes for my conversing with you, +assigning as causes voice, and air, and hearing, and ten thousand +other things of the kind, omitting to mention the real causes, that +since it appeared better to the Athenians to condemn me, I +therefore thought it better to sit here, and more just to remain +and submit to the punishment which they have ordered; for, by the +dog! I think these sinews and bones would have been long ago either +in Megara or Boeotia, borne thither by an opinion of that which is +best, if I had not thought it more just and honorable to submit to +whatever sentence the city might order than to flee and run +stealthily away. But to call such things causes is too absurd. But +if any one should say that without possessing such things as bones +and sinews, and whatever else I have, I could not do what I +pleased, he would speak the truth; but to say that I do as I do +through them, and that I act thus by intelligence, and not from the +choice of what is best, would be a great and extreme disregard of +reason. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec110" name= +"phaedo_sec110">110</a>. For this would be not to be able to +distinguish that the real cause is one thing, and that another, +without which a cause could not be a cause; which, indeed, the +generality of men appear to me to do, fumbling, as it were, in the +dark, and making use of strange names, so as to denominate them as +the very cause. Wherefore one encompassing the earth with a vortex +from heaven makes the earth remain fixed; but another, as if it +were a broad trough, rests it upon the <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page145' id='page145'></a>air as its base; but the power by which +these things are now so disposed that they may be placed in the +best manner possible, this they neither inquire into, nor do they +think that it requires any superhuman strength; but they think they +will some time or other find out an Atlas stronger and more +immortal than this, and more capable of containing all things; and +in reality, the good, and that which ought to hold them together +and contain them, they take no account of at all. I, then, should +most gladly have become the disciple of any one who would teach me +of such a cause, in what way it is. But when I was disappointed of +this, and was neither able to discover it myself, nor to learn it +from another, do you wish, Cebes, that I should show you in what +way I set out upon a second voyage in search of the cause?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec111" name= +"phaedo_sec111">111</a>. "I wish it exceedingly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"It appeared to me, then," said he, "after this, when I was +wearied with considering things that exist, that I ought to beware +lest I should suffer in the same way as they do who look at and +examine an eclipse of the sun, for some lose the sight of their +eyes, unless they behold its image in water, or some similar +medium. And I was affected with a similar feeling, and was afraid +lest I should be utterly blinded in my soul through beholding +things with the eyes, and endeavoring to grasp them by means of the +several senses. It seemed to me, therefore, that I ought to have +recourse to reasons, and to consider in them the truth of things. +Perhaps, however, this similitude of mine may in some respect be +incorrect; for I do not altogether admit that he who considers +things in their reasons considers them in their images, more than +he does who views them in their effects. However, I proceeded thus, +and on each occasion laying down the reason, which I deem to be the +strongest, whatever <a class='pagenumber' name='page146' id= +'page146'></a>things appear to me to accord with this I regard as +true, both with respect to the cause and every thing else; but such +as do not accord I regard as not true. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec112" name="phaedo_sec112">112</a>. But I wish to explain +my meaning to you in a clearer manner; for I think that you do not +yet understand me."</p> + +<p>"No, by Jupiter!" said Cebes, "not well."</p> + +<p>"However," continued he, "I am now saying nothing new, but what +I have always at other times, and in a former part of this +discussion, never ceased to say. I proceed, then, to attempt to +explain to you that species of cause which I have busied myself +about, and return again to those well-known subjects, and set out +from them, laying down as an hypothesis, that there is a certain +abstract beauty, and goodness, and magnitude, and so of all other +things; which if you grant me, and allow that they do exist, I hope +that I shall be able from these to explain the cause to you, and to +discover that the soul is immortal."</p> + +<p>"But," said Cebes, "since I grant you this, you may draw your +conclusion at once."</p> + +<p>"But consider," he said, "what follows from thence, and see if +you can agree with me. For it appears to me that if there is any +thing else beautiful besides beauty itself, it is not beautiful for +any other reason than because it partakes of that abstract beauty; +and I say the same of every thing. Do you admit such a cause?"</p> + +<p>"I do admit it," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec113" name= +"phaedo_sec113">113</a>. "I do not yet understand," he continued, +"nor am I able to conceive, those other wise causes; but if any one +should tell me why any thing is beautiful, either because it has a +blooming florid color, or figure, or any thing else of the kind, I +dismiss all other reasons, for I am confounded by them all; but I +simply, wholly, and perhaps foolishly, confine myself to this, that +nothing else causes it to be beautiful <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page147' id='page147'></a>except either the presence or +communication of that abstract beauty, by whatever means and in +whatever way communicated; for I can not yet affirm this with +certainty, but only that by means of beauty all beautiful things +become beautiful. For this appears to me the safest answer to give +both to myself and others; and adhering to this, I think that I +shall never fall, but that it is a safe answer both for me and any +one else to give—that by means of beauty beautiful things +become beautiful. Does it not also seem so to you?"</p> + +<p>"It does."</p> + +<p>"And that by magnitude great things become great, and greater +things, greater; and by littleness less things become less?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec114" name= +"phaedo_sec114">114</a>. "You would not, then, approve of it, if +any one said that one person is greater than another by the head, +and that the less is less by the very same thing; but you would +maintain that you mean nothing else than that every thing that is +greater than another is greater by nothing else than magnitude, and +that it is greater on this account—that is, on account of +magnitude; and that the less is less by nothing else than +littleness, and on this account less—that is, on account of +littleness; being afraid, I think, lest some opposite argument +should meet you if you should say that any one is greater and less +by the head; as, first, that the greater is greater, and the less +less, by the very same thing; and, next, that the greater is +greater by the head, which is small; and that it is monstrous to +suppose that any one is great through something small. Should you +not be afraid of this?"</p> + +<p>To which said Cebes, smilingly, "Indeed, I should."</p> + +<p>"Should you not, then," he continued, "be afraid to say that ten +is more than eight by two, and for this cause exceeds <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page148' id='page148'></a>it, and not by number, +and on account of number? and that two cubits are greater than one +cubit by half, and not by magnitude (for the fear is surely the +same)?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec115" name= +"phaedo_sec115">115</a>. "What, then? When one has been added to +one, would you not beware of saying that the addition is the cause +of its being two, or division when it has been divided; and would +you not loudly assert that you know no other way in which each +thing subsists, than by partaking of the peculiar essence of each +of which it partakes, and that in these cases you can assign no +other cause of its becoming two than its partaking of duality; and +that such things as are to become two must needs partake of this, +and what is to become one, of unity; but these divisions and +additions, and other such subtleties, you would dismiss, leaving +them to be given as answers by persons wiser than yourself; whereas +you, fearing, as it is said, your own shadow and inexperience, +would adhere to this safe hypothesis, and answer accordingly? But +if any one should assail this hypothesis of yours, would you not +dismiss him, and refrain from answering him till you had considered +the consequences resulting from it, whether in your opinion they +agree with or differ from each other? But when it should be +necessary for you to give a reason for it, would you give one in a +similar way, by again laying down another hypothesis, which should +appear the best of higher principles, until you arrived at +something satisfactory; but, at the same time, you would avoid +making confusion, as disputants do, in treating of the first +principle and the results arising from it, if you really desire to +arrive at the truth of things? <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec116" name="phaedo_sec116">116</a>. For they, perhaps, +make no account at all of this, nor pay any attention to it; for +they are able, through their wisdom, to mingle all things together, +and at the same time please themselves. But you, <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page149' id='page149'></a>if you are a +philosopher, would act, I think, as I now describe."</p> + +<p>"You speak most truly," said Simmias and Cebes together.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Echec.</span> By Jupiter! Phædo, +they said so with good reason; for he appears to me to have +explained these things with wonderful clearness, even to one endued +with a small degree of intelligence.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> Certainly, +Echecrates, and so it appeared to all who were present.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Echec.</span> And so it appears to me, +who was absent, and now hear it related. But what was said after +this?</p> + +<p>As well as I remember, when these things had been granted him, +and it was allowed that each several idea exists of itself,<a id= +"footnotetag37" name="footnotetag37" href= +"#footnote37"><sup>37</sup></a> and that other things partaking of +them receive their denomination from them, he next asked: "If, +then," he said, "you admit that things are so, whether, when you +say that Simmias is greater than Socrates, but less than +Phædo, do you not then say that magnitude and littleness are +both in Simmias?"</p> + +<p>"I do."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec117" name= +"phaedo_sec117">117</a>. "And yet," he said, "you must confess that +Simmias's exceeding Socrates is not actually true in the manner in +which the words express it; for Simmias does not naturally exceed +Socrates in that he is Simmias, but in consequence of the magnitude +which he happens to have; nor, again, does he exceed Socrates +because Socrates is Socrates, but because Socrates possesses +littleness in comparison with his magnitude?"</p> + +<p>"True."</p> + +<p>"Nor, again, is Simmias exceeded by Phædo, because <a +class='pagenumber' name='page150' id='page150'></a>Phædo is +Phædo, but because Phædo possesses magnitude in +comparison with Simmias's littleness?"</p> + +<p>"It is so."</p> + +<p>"Thus, then, Simmias has the appellation of being both little +and great, being between both, by exceeding the littleness of one +through his own magnitude, and to the other yielding a magnitude +that exceeds his own littleness." And at the same time, smiling, he +said, "I seem to speak with the precision of a short-hand writer; +however, it is as I say."</p> + +<p>He allowed it.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec118" name= +"phaedo_sec118">118</a>. "But I say it for this reason, wishing you +to be of the same opinion as myself. For it appears to me, not only +that magnitude itself is never disposed to be at the same time +great and little, but that magnitude in us never admits the little +nor is disposed to be exceeded, but one of two things, either to +flee and withdraw when its contrary, the little, approaches it, or, +when it has actually come, to perish; but that it is not disposed, +by sustaining and receiving littleness, to be different from what +it was. Just as I, having received and sustained littleness, and +still continuing the person that I am, am this same little person; +but that, while it is great, never endures to be little. And, in +like manner, the little that is in us is not disposed at any time +to become or to be great, nor is any thing else among contraries, +while it continues what it was, at the same time disposed to become +and to be its contrary; but in this contingency it either departs +or perishes."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec119" name= +"phaedo_sec119">119</a>. "It appears so to me," said Cebes, "in +every respect."</p> + +<p>But some one of those present, on hearing this, I do not clearly +remember who he was, said, "By the gods! was not the very contrary +of what is now asserted admitted in the former part of our +discussion, that the greater is produced <a class='pagenumber' +name='page151' id='page151'></a>from the less, and the less from +the greater, and, in a word, that the very production of contraries +is from contraries? But now it appears to me to be asserted that +this can never be the case."</p> + +<p>Upon this Socrates, having leaned his head forward and listened, +said, "You have reminded me in a manly way; you do not, however, +perceive the difference between what is now and what was then +asserted. For then it was said that a contrary thing is produced +from a contrary; but now, that a contrary can never become contrary +to itself—neither that which is in us, nor that which is in +nature. For then, my friend, we spoke of things that have +contraries, calling them by the appellation of those things; but +now we are speaking of those very things from the presence of which +things so called receive their appellation, and of these very +things we say that they are never disposed to admit of production +from each other." <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec120" name= +"phaedo_sec120">120</a>. And, at the same time looking at Cebes, +"Has anything that has been said, Cebes, disturbed you?"</p> + +<p>"Indeed," said Cebes, "I am not at all so disposed; however, I +by no means say that there are not many things that disturb +me."</p> + +<p>"Then," he continued, "we have quite agreed to this, that a +contrary can never be contrary to itself."</p> + +<p>"Most certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"But, further," he said, "consider whether you will agree with +me in this also. Do you call heat and cold any thing?"</p> + +<p>"I do."</p> + +<p>"The same as snow and fire?"</p> + +<p>"By Jupiter! I do not."</p> + +<p>"But heat is something different from fire, and cold something +different from snow?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page152' id='page152'></a>Yes."</p> + +<p>"But this, I think, is apparent to you—that snow, while it +is snow, can never, when it has admitted heat, as we said before, +continue to be what it was, snow and hot; but, on the approach of +heat, it must either withdraw or perish?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"And, again, that fire, when cold approaches it, must either +depart or perish; but that it will never endure, when it has +admitted coldness, to continue what it was, fire and cold?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec121" name= +"phaedo_sec121">121</a>. "You speak truly," he said.</p> + +<p>"It happens, then," he continued, "with respect to some of such +things, that not only is the idea itself always thought worthy of +the same appellation, but likewise something else which is not, +indeed, that idea itself, but constantly retains its form so long +as it exists. What I mean will perhaps be clearer in the following +examples: the odd in number must always possess the name by which +we now call it, must it not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"Must it alone, of all things—for this I ask—or is +there any thing else which is not the same as the odd, but yet +which we must always call odd, together with its own name, because +it is so constituted by nature that it can never be without the +odd? But this, I say, is the case with the number three, and many +others. For consider with respect to the number three: does it not +appear to you that it must always be called by its own name, as +well as by that of the odd, which is not the same as the number +three? Yet such is the nature of the number three, five, and the +entire half of number, that though they are not the same as the +odd, yet each of them is always odd. And, again, two and four, and +the whole other series of number, though not the same <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page153' id='page153'></a>as the even, are +nevertheless each of them always even: do you admit this, or +not?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec122" name= +"phaedo_sec122">122</a>. "How should I not?" he replied.</p> + +<p>"Observe then," said he, "what I wish to prove. It is +this—that it appears not only that these contraries do not +admit each other, but that even such things as are not contrary to +each other, and yet always possess contraries, do not appear to +admit that idea which is contrary to the idea that exists in +themselves, but, when it approaches, perish or depart. Shall we not +allow that the number three would first perish, and suffer any +thing whatever, rather than endure, while it is still three, to +become even?"</p> + +<p>"Most certainly," said Cebes.</p> + +<p>"And yet," said he, "the number two is not contrary to +three."</p> + +<p>"Surely not."</p> + +<p>"Not only, then, do ideas that are contrary never allow the +approach of each other, but some other things also do not allow the +approach of contraries."</p> + +<p>"You say very truly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Do you wish, then," he said, "that, if we are able, we should +define what these things are?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"Would they not then, Cebes," he said, "be such things as, +whatever they occupy, compel that thing not only to retain its own +idea, but also that of something which is always a contrary?"</p> + +<p>"How do you mean?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec123" name= +"phaedo_sec123">123</a>. "As we just now said. For you know, +surely, that whatever things the idea of three occupies must of +necessity not only be three, but also odd?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page154' id='page154'></a>To such a +thing, then, we assert, that the idea contrary to that form which +constitutes this can never come."</p> + +<p>"It can not."</p> + +<p>"But did the odd make it so?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"And is the contrary to this the idea of the even?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"The idea of the even, then, will never come to the three?"</p> + +<p>"No, surely."</p> + +<p>"Three, then, has no part in the even?"</p> + +<p>"None whatever."</p> + +<p>"The number three is uneven?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"What, therefore, I said should be defined—namely, what +things they are which, though not contrary to some particular +thing, yet do not admit of the contrary itself; as, in the present +instance, the number three, though not contrary to the even, does +not any the more admit it, for it always brings the contrary with +it, just as the number two does to the odd, fire to cold, and many +other particulars. Consider, then, whether you would thus define, +not only that a contrary does not admit a contrary, but also that +that which brings with it a contrary to that to which it approaches +will never admit the contrary of that which it brings with it. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec124" name= +"phaedo_sec124">124</a>. But call it to mind again, for it will not +be useless to hear it often repeated. Five will not admit the idea +of the even, nor ten, its double, that of the odd. This double, +then, though it is itself contrary to something else,<a id= +"footnotetag38" name="footnotetag38" href= +"#footnote38"><sup>38</sup></a> yet will not admit the idea of the +odd, nor will half as much again, nor other things of the kind, +such as the <a class='pagenumber' name='page155' id= +'page155'></a>half and the third part, admit the idea of the whole, +if you follow me, and agree with me that it is so."</p> + +<p>"I entirely agree with you," he said, "and follow you."</p> + +<p>"Tell me again, then," he said, "from the beginning; and do not +answer me in the terms in which I put the question, but in +different ones, imitating my example. For I say this because, +besides that safe mode of answering which I mentioned at first,<a +id="footnotetag39" name="footnotetag39" href= +"#footnote39"><sup>39</sup></a> from what has now been said, I see +another no less safe one. For if you should ask me what that is +which, if it be in the body, will cause it to be hot, I should not +give you that safe but unlearned answer, that it is heat, but one +more elegant, from what we have just now said, that it is fire; +nor, if you should ask me what that is which, if it be in the body, +will cause it to be diseased, should I say that it is disease, but +fever; nor if you should ask what that is which, if it be in +number, will cause it to be odd, should I say that it is +unevenness, but unity; and so with other things. But consider +whether you sufficiently understand what I mean."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec125" name= +"phaedo_sec125">125</a>. "Perfectly so," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Answer me, then," he said, "what that is which, when it is in +the body, the body will be alive?"</p> + +<p>"Soul," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Is not this, then, always the case?"</p> + +<p>"How should it not be?" said he.</p> + +<p>"Does the soul, then, always bring life to whatever it +occupies?"</p> + +<p>"It does indeed," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Whether, then, is there any thing contrary to life or not?"</p> + +<p>"There is," he replied.</p> + +<p>"What?"</p> + +<p>"Death."</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page156' id='page156'></a>The soul, +then, will never admit the contrary of that which it brings with +it, as has been already allowed?"</p> + +<p>"Most assuredly," replied Cebes.</p> + +<p>"What, then? How do we denominate that which does not admit the +idea of the even?"</p> + +<p>"Uneven," he replied.</p> + +<p>"And that which does not admit the just, nor the musical?"</p> + +<p>"Unmusical," he said, "and unjust."</p> + +<p>"Be it so. But what do we call that which does not admit +death?"</p> + +<p>"Immortal," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Therefore, does not the soul admit death?"</p> + +<p>"No."</p> + +<p>"Is the soul, then, immortal?"</p> + +<p>"Immortal."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec126" name= +"phaedo_sec126">126</a>. "Be it so," he said. "Shall we say, then, +that this has been now demonstrated? or how think you?"</p> + +<p>"Most completely, Socrates."</p> + +<p>"What, then," said he, "Cebes, if it were necessary for the +uneven to be imperishable, would the number three be otherwise than +imperishable?"</p> + +<p>"How should it not?"</p> + +<p>"If, therefore, it were also necessary that what is without heat +should be imperishable, when any one should introduce heat to snow, +would not the snow withdraw itself, safe and unmelted? For it would +not perish; nor yet would it stay and admit the heat."</p> + +<p>"You say truly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"In like manner, I think, if that which is insusceptible of cold +were imperishable, that when any thing cold approached the fire, it +would neither be extinguished nor perish, but would depart quite +safe."</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page157' id='page157'></a>Of +necessity," he said.</p> + +<p>"Must we not, then, of necessity," he continued, "speak thus of +that which is immortal? if that which is immortal is imperishable, +it is impossible for the soul to perish, when death approaches it. +For, from what has been said already, it will not admit death, nor +will ever be dead; just as we said that three will never be even, +nor, again, will the odd; nor will fire be cold, nor yet the heat +that is in fire. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec127" name= +"phaedo_sec127">127</a>. But some one may say, what hinders, though +the odd can never become even by the approach of the even, as we +have allowed, yet, when the odd is destroyed, that the even should +succeed in its place? We could not contend with him who should make +this objection that it is not destroyed, for the uneven is not +imperishable; since, if this were granted us, we might easily have +contended that, on the approach of the even, the odd and the three +depart; and we might have contended in the same way with respect to +fire, heat, and the rest, might we not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"Wherefore, with respect to the immortal, if we have allowed +that it is imperishable, the soul, in addition to its being +immortal, must also be imperishable; if not, there will be need of +other arguments."</p> + +<p>"But there is no need," he said, "so far as that is concerned; +for scarcely could any thing not admit of corruption, if that which +is immortal and eternal is liable to it."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec128" name= +"phaedo_sec128">128</a>. "The deity, indeed, I think," said +Socrates, "and the idea itself of life, and if anything else is +immortal, must be allowed by all beings to be incapable of +dissolution."</p> + +<p>"By Jupiter!" he replied, "by all men, indeed, and still more, +as I think, by the gods."</p> + +<p>"Since, then, that which is immortal is also incorruptible, <a +class='pagenumber' name='page158' id='page158'></a>can the soul, +since it is immortal, be any thing else than imperishable?"</p> + +<p>"It must, of necessity, be so."</p> + +<p>"When, therefore, death approaches a man, the mortal part of +him, as it appears, dies, but the immortal part departs safe and +uncorrupted, having withdrawn itself from death?"</p> + +<p>"It appears so."</p> + +<p>"The soul, therefore," he said, "Cebes, is most certainly +immortal and imperishable, and our souls will really exist in +Hades."</p> + +<p>"Therefore, Socrates," he said, "I have nothing further to say +against this, nor any reason for doubting your arguments. But if +Simmias here, or any one else, has any thing to say, it were well +for him not to be silent; for I know not to what other opportunity +beyond the present any one can defer it, who wishes either to speak +or hear about these things."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec129" name= +"phaedo_sec129">129</a>. "But, indeed," said Simmias, "neither have +I any reason to doubt what has been urged; yet, from the magnitude +of the subject discussed, and from my low opinion of human +weakness, I am compelled still to retain a doubt within myself with +respect to what has been said."</p> + +<p>"Not only so, Simmias," said Socrates, "but you say this well; +and, moreover, the first hypotheses, even though they are credible +to you, should nevertheless be examined more carefully; and if you +should investigate them sufficiently, I think you will follow my +reasoning as far as it is possible for man to do so; and if this +very point becomes clear, you will inquire no further."</p> + +<p>"You speak truly," he said.</p> + +<p>"But it is right, my friends," he said, "that we should consider +this—- that if the soul is immortal, it requires our <a +class='pagenumber' name='page159' id='page159'></a>care not only +for the present time, which we call life, but for all time; and the +danger would now appear to be dreadful if one should neglect it. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec130" name= +"phaedo_sec130">130</a>. For if death were a deliverance from every +thing, it would be a great gain for the wicked, when they die, to +be delivered at the same time from the body, and from their vices +together with the soul; but now, since it appears to be immortal, +it can have no other refuge from evils, nor safety, except by +becoming as good and wise as possible. For the soul goes to Hades +possessing nothing else than its discipline and education, which +are said to be of the greatest advantage or detriment to the dead, +on the very beginning of his journey thither. For, thus, it is said +that each person's demon who was assigned to him while living, when +he dies conducts him to some place, where they that are assembled +together must receive sentence, and then proceed to Hades with that +guide who has been ordered to conduct them from hence thither. But +there having received their deserts, and having remained the +appointed time, another guide brings them back hither again, after +many and long revolutions of time. The journey, then, is not such +as the Telephus of Æschylus describes it; for he says that a +simple path leads to Hades; but it appears to me to be neither +simple nor one, for there would be no need of guides, nor could any +one ever miss the way, if there were but one. But now it appears to +have many divisions and windings; and this I conjecture from our +religious and funeral rites.<a id="footnotetag40" name= +"footnotetag40" href="#footnote40"><sup>40</sup></a> <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec131" name="phaedo_sec131">131</a>. +The well-ordered and wise soul, then, both follows, and is not +ignorant of its present condition; but that which through passion +clings <a class='pagenumber' name='page160' id='page160'></a>to the +body, as I said before, having longingly fluttered about it for a +long time, and about its visible place,<a id="footnotetag41" name= +"footnotetag41" href="#footnote41"><sup>41</sup></a> after vehement +resistance and great suffering, is forcibly and with great +difficulty led away by its appointed demon. And when it arrives at +the place where the others are, impure and having done any such +thing as the committal of unrighteous murders or other similar +actions, which are kindred to these, and are the deeds of kindred +souls, every one shuns it and turns away from it, and will be +neither its fellow-traveler nor guide; but it wanders about, +oppressed with every kind of helplessness, until certain periods +have elapsed; and when these are completed, it is carried, of +necessity, to an abode suitable to it. But the soul which has +passed through life with purity and moderation, having obtained the +gods for its fellow-travelers and guides, settles each in the place +suited to it. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec132" name= +"phaedo_sec132">132</a>. There are, indeed, many and wonderful +places in the earth, and it is itself neither of such a kind nor of +such a magnitude as is supposed by those who are accustomed to +speak of the earth, as I have been persuaded by a certain +person."</p> + +<p>Whereupon Simmias said, "How mean you, Socrates? For I, too, +have heard many things about the earth—not, however, those +things which have obtained your belief. I would, therefore, gladly +hear them."</p> + +<p>"Indeed, Simmias, the art of Glaucus<a id="footnotetag42" name= +"footnotetag42" href="#footnote42"><sup>42</sup></a> does not seem +to me to be required to relate what these things are. That they are +true, however, appears to me more than the art of Glaucus can +prove, and, besides, I should probably not be able to do it; and +even if I did know how, what remains to me of life, Simmias, seems +insufficient for the length of the <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page161' id='page161'></a>subject. However, the form of the earth, +such as I am persuaded it is, and the different places in it, +nothing hinders me from telling."</p> + +<p>"But that will be enough," said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"I am persuaded, then," said he, "in the first place, that, if +the earth is in the middle of the heavens, and is of a spherical +form, it has no need of air, nor of any other similar force, to +prevent it from falling; but that the similarity of the heavens to +themselves on every side, and the equilibrium of the earth itself, +are sufficient to support it; for a thing in a state of equilibrium +when placed in the middle of something that presses it equally on +all sides can not incline more or less on any side, but, being +equally affected all around, remains unmoved. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec133" name="phaedo_sec133">133</a>. In +the first place, then," he said, "I am persuaded of this."</p> + +<p>"And very properly so," said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"Yet, further," said he, "that it is very large, and that we who +inhabit some small portion of it, from the river Phasis to the +pillars of Hercules, dwell about the sea, like ants or frogs about +a marsh; and that many others elsewhere dwell in many similar +places, for that there are everywhere about the earth many hollows +of various forms and sizes into which there is a confluence of +water, mist and air; but that the earth itself, being pure, is +situated in the pure heavens, in which are the stars, and which +most persons who are accustomed to speak about such things call +ether; of which these things are the sediment, and are continually +flowing into the hollow parts of the earth. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec134" name="phaedo_sec134">134</a>. +That we are ignorant, then, that we are dwelling in its hollows, +and imagine that we inhabit the upper parts of the earth, just as +if any one dwelling in the bottom of the sea should think that he +dwelt on the sea, and, beholding the sun and the other stars +through the water, should imagine <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page162' id='page162'></a>that the sea was the heavens; but, +through sloth and weakness, should never have reached the surface +of the sea; nor, having emerged and risen up from the sea to this +region, have seen how much more pure and more beautiful it is than +the place where he is, nor has heard of it from any one else who +has seen it. This, then, is the very condition in which we are; +for, dwelling in some hollow of the earth, we think that we dwell +on the surface of it, and call the air heaven, as if the stars +moved through this, being heaven itself. But this is because, by +reason of our weakness and sloth, we are unable to reach to the +summit of the air. Since, if any one could arrive at its summit, +or, becoming winged, could fly up thither, or, emerging from hence, +he would see—just as with us, fishes, emerging from the sea, +behold what is here, so any one would behold the things there; and +if his nature were able to endure the contemplation, he would know +that that is the true heaven, and the true light, and the true +earth. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec135" name= +"phaedo_sec135">135</a>. For this earth and these stones, and the +whole region here, are decayed and corroded, as things in the sea +by the saltness; for nothing of any value grows in the sea, nor, in +a word, does it contain any thing perfect; but there are caverns +and sand, and mud in abundance, and filth, in whatever parts of the +sea there is earth, nor are they at all worthy to be compared with +the beautiful things with us. But, on the other hand, those things +in the upper regions of the earth would appear far more to excel +the things with us. For, if we may tell a beautiful fable, it is +well worth hearing, Simmias, what kind the things are on the earth +beneath the heavens."</p> + +<p>"Indeed, Socrates," said Simmias, "we should be very glad to +hear that fable."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec136" name= +"phaedo_sec136">136</a>. "First of all, then, my friend," he +continued, "this earth, if any one should survey it from above, is +said to have <a class='pagenumber' name='page163' id= +'page163'></a>the appearance of balls covered with twelve different +pieces of leather, variegated and distinguished with colors, of +which the colors found here, and which painters use, are, as it +were, copies. But there the whole earth is composed of such, and +far more brilliant and pure than these; for one part of it is +purple, and of wonderful beauty, part of a golden color, and part +of white, more white than chalk or snow, and, in like manner, +composed of other colors, and those more in number and more +beautiful than any we have ever beheld. And those very hollow parts +of the earth, though filled with water and air, exhibit a certain +species of color, shining among the variety of other colors, so +that one continually variegated aspect presents itself to the view. +In this earth, being such, all things that grow, grow in a manner +proportioned to its nature—trees, flowers and fruits; and, +again, in like manner, its mountains and stones possess, in the +same proportion, smoothness and transparency, and more beautiful +colors; of which the well-known stones here that are so highly +prized are but fragments, such as sardine-stones, jaspers, and +emeralds, and all of that kind. But there, there is nothing +subsists that is not of this character, and even more beautiful +than these. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec137" name= +"phaedo_sec137">137</a>. But the reason of this is, because the +stones there are pure, and not eaten up and decayed, like those +here, by rottenness and saltness, which flow down hither together, +and which produce deformity and disease in the stones and the +earth, and in other things, even animals and plants. But that earth +is adorned with all these, and, moreover, with gold and silver, and +other things of the kind: for they are naturally conspicuous, being +numerous and large, and in all parts of the earth; so that to +behold it is a sight for the blessed. There are also many other +animals and men upon it, some dwelling in mid-earth, others about +the air, as we do about the sea, and others <a class='pagenumber' +name='page164' id='page164'></a>in islands which the air flows +round, and which are near the continent; and, in one word, what +water and the sea are to us, for our necessities, the air is to +them; and what air is to us, that ether is to them. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec138" name="phaedo_sec138">138</a>. +But their seasons are of such a temperament that they are free from +disease, and live for a much longer time than those here, and +surpass us in sight, hearing, and smelling, and every thing of this +kind, as much as air excels water, and ether air, in purity. +Moreover, they have abodes and temples of the gods, in which gods +really dwell, and voices and oracles, and sensible visions of the +gods, and such-like intercourse with them; the sun, too, and moon, +and stars, are seen by them such as they really are, and their +felicity in other respects is correspondent with these things."</p> + +<p>"And, such, indeed, is the nature of the whole earth, and the +parts about the earth; but there are many places all round it +throughout its cavities, some deeper and more open than that in +which we dwell; but others that are deeper have a less chasm than +our region, and others are shallower in depth than it is here, and +broader. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec139" name= +"phaedo_sec139">139</a>. But all these are in many places +perforated one into another under the earth, some with narrower and +some with wider channels, and have passages through, by which a +great quantity of water flows from one into another, as into +basins, and there are immense bulks of ever-flowing rivers under +the earth, both of hot and cold water, and a great quantity of +fire, and mighty rivers of fire, and many of liquid mire, some +purer, and some more miry, as in Sicily there are rivers of mud +that flow before the lava, and the lava itself, and from these the +several places are filled, according as the overflow from time to +time happens to come to each of them. But all these move up and +down, as it were, by a certain oscillation existing in the earth. +And this oscillation proceeds from such <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page165' id='page165'></a>natural cause as this; one of the chasms +of the earth is exceedingly large, and perforated through the +entire earth, and is that which Homer<a id="footnotetag43" name= +"footnotetag43" href="#footnote43"><sup>43</sup></a> speaks of, +'very far off, where is the most profound abyss beneath the earth,' +which elsewhere both he and many other poets have called Tartarus. +For into this chasm all rivers flow together, and from it flow out +again; but they severally derive their character from the earth +through which they flow. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec140" name="phaedo_sec140">140</a>. And the reason why +all streams flow out from thence, and flow into it, is because this +liquid has neither bottom nor base. Therefore, it oscillates and +fluctuates up and down, and the air and the wind around it do the +same; for they accompany it both when it rushes to those parts of +the earth, and when to these. And as in respiration the flowing +breath is continually breathed out and drawn in, so there the wind +oscillating with the liquid causes certain vehement and +irresistible winds both as it enters and goes out. When, therefore, +the water rushing in descends to the place which we call the lower +region, it flows through the earth into the streams there, and +fills them, just as men pump up water. But when again it leaves +those regions and rushes hither, it again fills the rivers here; +and these, when filled, flow through channels and through the +earth, and, having severally reached the several places to which +they are journeying, they make seas, lakes, rivers, and fountains. +<a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec141" name= +"phaedo_sec141">141</a>. Then, sinking again from thence beneath +the earth, some of them having gone round longer and more numerous +places, and others round fewer and shorter, they again discharge +themselves into Tartarus—some much lower than they were drawn +up, others only a little so; but all of them flow in again beneath +the point at which they flowed out. And some issue out directly +opposite the place <a class='pagenumber' name='page166' id= +'page166'></a>by which they flow in, others on the same side. There +are also some which, having gone round altogether in a circle, +folding themselves once or several times round the earth, like +serpents, when they have descended as low as possible, discharge +themselves again; and it is possible for them to descend on either +side as far as the middle, but not beyond; for in each direction +there is an acclivity to the streams both ways."</p> + +<p>"Now, there are many other large and various streams; but among +this great number there are four certain streams, of which the +largest, and that which flows most outwardly round the earth, is +called Ocean; but directly opposite this, and flowing in a contrary +direction, is Acheron, which flows through other desert places, +and, moreover, passing under the earth, reaches the Acherusian +lake, where the souls of most who die arrive; and, having remained +there for certain destined periods, some longer and some shorter, +are again sent forth into the generations of animals. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec142" name="phaedo_sec142">142</a>. A +third river issues midway between these, and, near its source, +falls into a vast region, burning with abundance of fire, and forms +a lake larger than our sea, boiling with water and mud. From hence +it proceeds in a circle, turbulent and muddy, and, folding itself +round it, reaches both other places and the extremity of the +Acherusian lake, but does not mingle with its water; but, folding +itself oftentimes beneath the earth, it discharges itself into the +lower parts of Tartarus. And this is the river which they call +Pyriphlegethon, whose burning streams emit dissevered fragments in +whatever part of the earth they happen to be. Opposite to this, +again, the fourth river first falls into a place dreadful and +savage, as it is said, having its whole color like cyanus:<a id= +"footnotetag44" name="footnotetag44" href= +"#footnote44"><sup>44</sup></a> this they call Stygian, and the +lake which the <a class='pagenumber' name='page167' id= +'page167'></a>river forms by its discharge, Styx. This river, +having fallen in here, and received awful power in the water, +sinking beneath the earth, proceeds, folding itself round, in an +opposite course to Pyriphlegethon, and meets it in the Acherusian +lake from, a contrary direction. Neither does the water of this +river mingle with any other; but it, too, having gone round in a +circle, discharges itself into Tartarus, opposite to +Pyriphlegethon. Its name, as the poets say, is Cocytus."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec143" name= +"phaedo_sec143">143</a>. "These things being thus constituted, when +the dead arrive at the place to which their demon leads them +severally, first of all they are judged, as well those who have +lived well and piously, as those who have not. And those who appear +to have passed a middle kind of life, proceeding to Acheron, and +embarking in the vessels they have, on these arrive at the lake, +and there dwell; and when they are purified, and have suffered +punishment for the iniquities they may have committed, they are set +free, and each receives the reward of his good deeds, according to +his deserts. But those who appear to be incurable, through the +magnitude of their offenses, either from having committed many and +great sacrileges, or many unjust and lawless murders, or other +similar crimes, these a suitable destiny hurls into Tartarus, +whence they never come forth. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec144" name="phaedo_sec144">144</a>. But those who appear +to have been guilty of curable yet great offenses—such as +those who, through anger, have committed any violence against +father or mother, and have lived the remainder of their life in a +state of penitence, or they who have become homicides in a similar +manner—these must, of necessity, fall into Tartarus. But +after they have fallen, and have been there for a year, the wave +casts them forth, <a class='pagenumber' name='page168' id= +'page168'></a>the homicides into Cocytus, but the parricides and +matricides into Pyriphlegethon. But when, being borne along, they +arrive at the Acherusian lake, there they cry out to and invoke, +some those whom they slew, others those whom they injured, and, +invoking them, they entreat and implore them to suffer them to go +out into the lake, and to receive them, and if they persuade them, +they go out, and are freed from their sufferings, but if not, they +are borne back to Tartarus, and thence again to the rivers. And +they do not cease from suffering this until they have persuaded +those whom they have injured, for this sentence was imposed on them +by the judges. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec145" name= +"phaedo_sec145">145</a>. But those who are found to have lived an +eminently holy life, these are they who, being freed and set at +large from these regions in the earth as from a prison, arrive at +the pure abode above, and dwell on the upper parts of the earth. +And among these, they who have sufficiently purified themselves by +philosophy shall live without bodies, throughout all future time, +and shall arrive at habitations yet more beautiful than these which +it is neither easy to describe, nor at present is there sufficient +time for the purpose."</p> + +<p>"But, for the sake of these things which we have described, we +should use every endeavor, Simmias, so as to acquire virtue and +wisdom in this life, for the reward is noble, and the hope +great."</p> + +<p>"To affirm positively, indeed, that these things are exactly as +I have described them does not become a man of sense. That, +however, either this, or something of the kind, takes place with +respect to our souls and their habitations—since our soul is +certainly immortal—this appears to me most fitting to be +believed, and worthy the hazard for one who trusts in its reality; +for the hazard is noble, and it is right to allure ourselves with +such things, as with enchantments, <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page169' id='page169'></a>for which reason I have prolonged my +story to such a length. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec146" +name="phaedo_sec146">146</a>. On account of these things, then, a +man ought to be confident about his soul who, during this life, has +disregarded all the pleasures and ornaments of the body as foreign +from his nature, and who, having thought that they do more harm +than good, has zealously applied himself to the acquirement of +knowledge, and who, having adorned his soul, not with a foreign, +but its own proper ornament—temperance, justice, fortitude, +freedom, and truth—thus waits for his passage to Hades, as +one who is ready to depart whenever destiny shall summon him. You, +then," he continued, "Simmias and Cebes, and the rest, will each of +you depart at some future time, but now destiny summons me, as a +tragic writer would say, and it is nearly time for me to betake +myself to the bath, for it appears to me to be better to drink the +poison after I have bathed myself, and not to trouble the women +with washing my dead body."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec147" name= +"phaedo_sec147">147</a>. When he had thus spoken, Crito said, "So +be it, Socrates, but what commands have you to give to these or to +me, either respecting your children, or any other matter, in +attending to which we can most oblige you?"</p> + +<p>"What I always say, Crito," he replied, "nothing new that by +taking care of yourselves you will oblige both me and mine, and +yourselves, whatever you do, though you should not now promise it, +and if you neglect yourselves, and will not live, as it were, in +the footsteps of what has been now and formerly said, even though +you should promise much at present, and that earnestly, you will do +no good at all."</p> + +<p>"We will endeavor, then, so to do," he said. "But how shall we +bury you?"</p> + +<p>"Just as you please," he said, "if only you can catch <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page170' id='page170'></a>me, and I do not +escape from you." <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec148" name= +"phaedo_sec148">148</a>. And, at the same time smiling gently, and +looking round on us, he said, "I cannot persuade Crito, my friends, +that I am that Socrates who is now conversing with you, and who +methodizes each part of the discourse; but he thinks that I am he +whom he will shortly behold dead, and asks how he should bury me. +But that which I some time since argued at length, that when I have +drunk the poison I shall no longer remain with you, but shall +depart to some happy state of the blessed, this I seem to have +urged to him in vain, though I meant at the same time to console +both you and myself. Be ye, then, my sureties to Crito," he said, +"in an obligation contrary to that which he made to the judges (for +he undertook that I should remain); but do you be sureties that, +when I die, I shall not remain, but shall depart, that Crito may +more easily bear it; and, when he sees my body either burned or +buried, may not be afflicted for me, as if I suffered from some +dreadful thing; nor say at my interment that Socrates is laid out, +or is carried out, or is buried. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec149" name="phaedo_sec149">149</a>. For be well assured," +he said, "most excellent Crito, that to speak improperly is not +only culpable as to the thing itself, but likewise occasions some +injury to our souls. You must have a good courage, then, and say +that you bury my body, and bury it in such a manner as is pleasing +to you, and as you think is most agreeable to our laws."</p> + +<p>When he had said thus, he rose, and went into a chamber to +bathe, and Crito followed him, but he directed us to wait for him. +We waited, therefore, conversing among ourselves about what had +been said, and considering it again, and sometimes speaking about +our calamity, how severe it would be to us, sincerely thinking +that, like those who are deprived of a father, we should pass the +rest of our life as orphans. When he had bathed, and his children +were <a class='pagenumber' name='page171' id='page171'></a>brought +to him (for he had two little sons and one grown up), and the women +belonging to his family were come, having conversed with them in +the presence of Crito, and given them such injunctions as he +wished, he directed the women and children to go away, and then +returned to us. And it was now near sunset; for he spent a +considerable time within. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec150" name="phaedo_sec150">150</a>. But when he came from +bathing he sat down, and did not speak much afterward; then the +officer of the Eleven came in, and, standing near him, said, +"Socrates, I shall not have to find that fault with you that I do +with others, that they are angry with me, and curse me, when, by +order of the archons, I bid them drink the poison. But you, on all +other occasions during the time you have been here, I have found to +be the most noble, meek, and excellent man of all that ever came +into this place; and, therefore, I am now well convinced that you +will not be angry with me (for you know who are to blame), but with +them. Now, then (for you know what I came to announce to you), +farewell, and endeavor to bear what is inevitable as easily as +possible." And at the same time, bursting into tears, he turned +away and withdrew.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec151" name= +"phaedo_sec151">151</a>. And Socrates, looking after him, said, +"And thou, too, farewell. We will do as you direct." At the same +time turning to us, he said, "How courteous the man is! During the +whole time I have been here he has visited me, and conversed with +me sometimes, and proved the worthiest of men; and now how +generously he weeps for me! But come, Crito, let us obey him, and +let some one bring the poison, if it is ready pounded; but if not, +let the man pound it."</p> + +<p>Then Crito said, "But I think, Socrates, that the sun is still +on the mountains, and has not yet set. Besides, I know that others +have drunk the poison very late, after it <a class='pagenumber' +name='page172' id='page172'></a>had been announced to them, and +have supped and drunk freely, and some even have enjoyed the +objects of their love. Do not hasten, then, for there is yet +time."</p> + +<p>Upon this Socrates replied, "These men whom you mention, Crito, +do these things with good reason, for they think they shall gain by +so doing; and I, too, with good reason, shall not do so; for I +think I shall gain nothing by drinking a little later, except to +become ridiculous to myself, in being so fond of life, and sparing +of it, when none any longer remains. Go then," he said, "obey, and +do not resist."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec152" name= +"phaedo_sec152">152</a>. Crito, having heard this, nodded to the +boy that stood near. And the boy, having gone out and staid for +some time, came, bringing with him the man that was to administer +the poison, who brought it ready pounded in a cup. And Socrates, on +seeing the man, said, "Well, my good friend, as you are skilled in +these matters, what must I do?"</p> + +<p>"Nothing else," he replied, "than, when you have drunk it, walk +about until there is a heaviness in your legs; then lie down: thus +it will do its purpose." And at the same time he held out the cup +to Socrates. And he having received it very cheerfully, Echecrates +neither trembling, nor changing at all in color or countenance, +but, as he was wont, looking steadfastly at the man, said, "What +say you of this potion, with respect to making a libation to any +one, is it lawful or not?"</p> + +<p>"We only pound so much, Socrates," he said, "as we think +sufficient to drink."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec153" name= +"phaedo_sec153">153</a>. "I understand you," he said; "but it is +certainly both lawful and right to pray to the gods, that my +departure hence thither may be happy; which, therefore, I pray, and +so may it be." And as he said this, he drank it off readily and +calmly. Thus far, most of us were with difficulty able <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page173' id='page173'></a>to restrain ourselves +from weeping; but when we saw him drinking, and having finished the +draught, we could do so no longer; but, in spite of myself, the +tears came in full torrent, so that, covering my face, I wept for +myself; for I did not weep for him, but for my own fortune, in +being deprived of such a friend. But Crito, even before me, when he +could not restrain his tears, had risen up. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec154" name="phaedo_sec154">154</a>. +But Apollodorus, even before this, had not ceased weeping; and +then, bursting into an agony of grief, weeping and lamenting, he +pierced the heart of every one present, except Socrates himself. +But he said, "What are you doing, my admirable friends? I, indeed, +for this reason chiefly, sent away the women, that they might not +commit any folly of this kind. For I have heard that it is right to +die with good omens. Be quiet, therefore, and bear up."</p> + +<p>When we heard this, we were ashamed, and restrained our tears. +But he, having walked about, when he said that his legs were +growing heavy, lay down on his back; for the man had so directed +him. And, at the same time, he who gave the poison taking hold of +him, after a short interval, examined his feet and legs; and then, +having pressed his foot hard, he asked if he felt it: he said that +he did not. And after this he pressed his thighs; and, thus going +higher, he showed us that he was growing cold and stiff. Then +Socrates touched himself, and said that when the poison reached his +heart he should then depart. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec155" name="phaedo_sec155">155</a>. But now the parts +around the lower belly were almost cold; when, uncovering himself, +for he had been covered over, he said (and they were his last +words), "Crito, we owe a cock to Æsculapius; pay it, +therefore; and do not neglect it."</p> + +<p>"It shall be done," said Crito; "but consider whether you have +any thing else to say."</p> + +<p>To this question he gave no reply; but, shortly after, he <a +class='pagenumber' name='page174' id='page174'></a>gave a +convulsive movement, and the man covered him, and his eyes were +fixed; and Crito, perceiving it, closed his mouth and eyes.</p> + +<p>This, Echecrates, was the end of our friend,—a man, as we +may say, the best of all of his time that we have known, and, +moreover, the most wise and just.</p> + +<h3>Footnotes</h3> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote25" name="footnote25" href= +"#footnotetag25">25</a>: Phlius, to which Echecrates belonged, was +a town of Sicyonia, in Peloponnesus.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote26" name="footnote26" href= +"#footnotetag26">26</a>: A Pythagorean of Crotona.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote27" name="footnote27" href= +"#footnotetag27">27</a>: Namely, "that it is better to die than to +live."</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote28" name="footnote28" href= +"#footnotetag28">28</a>: <span class= +"greek">Ἱττω</span>, Boetian for <span class= +"greek">ἱοτω</span>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote29" name="footnote29" href= +"#footnotetag29">29</a>: Of Pythagoras.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote30" name="footnote30" href= +"#footnotetag30">30</a>: Some boyish spirit.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote31" name="footnote31" href= +"#footnotetag31">31</a>: That is, at a time of life when the body +is in full vigor.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote32" name="footnote32" href= +"#footnotetag32">32</a>: In the original there is a play on the +words <span class="greek">Ἁιδης</span> +and <span class= +"greek">ἁεἱδης</span>, which I +can only attempt to retain by departing from the usual rendering of +the former word.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote33" name="footnote33" href= +"#footnotetag33">33</a>: By this I understand him to mean that the +soul alone can perceive the truth, but the senses, as they are +different, receive and convey different impressions of the same +thing; thus, the eye receives one impression of an object, the ear +a totally different one.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote34" name="footnote34" href= +"#footnotetag34">34</a>: <span class="greek">και +αὑθις +ετερος και +ετερος</span>, that is, +"with one argument after another" Though Cousin translates it <span +class="french">et successivement tout different de luimeme</span> +and Ast, <span class="latin">et rursus alia atque alia</span>, +which may be taken in either sense, yet it appears to me to mean +that, when a man repeatedly discovers the fallacy of arguments +which he before believed to be true, he distrusts reasoning +altogether, just as one who meets with friend after friend who +proves unfaithful becomes a misanthrope.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote35" name="footnote35" href= +"#footnotetag35">35</a>: Lib. xx, v. 7.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote36" name="footnote36" href= +"#footnotetag36">36</a>: Harmony was the wife of Cadmus, the +founder of Thebes; Socrates, therefore, compares his two Theban +friends, Simmias and Cebes, with them, and says that, having +overcome Simmias, the advocate of Harmony, he must now deal with +Cebes, who is represented by Cadmus.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote37" name="footnote37" href= +"#footnotetag37">37</a>: <span class= +"greek">εἱναι τι</span>, +literally, "is something."</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote38" name="footnote38" href= +"#footnotetag38">38</a>: That is, to single.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote39" name="footnote39" href= +"#footnotetag39">39</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec113">113</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote40" name="footnote40" href= +"#footnotetag40">40</a>: It is difficult to express the distinction +between <span class="greek">οσια</span> +and <span class="greek">νομιμα</span>. +The former word seems to have reference to the souls of the dead; +the latter, to their bodies.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote41" name="footnote41" href= +"#footnotetag41">41</a>: Its place of interment.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote42" name="footnote42" href= +"#footnotetag42">42</a>: A proverb meaning "a matter of great +difficulty."</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote43" name="footnote43" href= +"#footnotetag43">43</a>: "Iliad," lib. viii., v. 14.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote44" name="footnote44" href= +"#footnotetag44">44</a>: A metallic substance of a deep-blue color, +frequently mentioned by the earliest Grecian writers, but of which +the nature is unknown.</div> +</div> + +<div>*** END OF THE PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK 13726 ***</div> +</body> +</html> + diff --git a/LICENSE.txt b/LICENSE.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..6312041 --- /dev/null +++ b/LICENSE.txt @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +This eBook, including all associated images, markup, improvements, +metadata, and any other content or labor, has been confirmed to be +in the PUBLIC DOMAIN IN THE UNITED STATES. + +Procedures for determining public domain status are described in +the "Copyright How-To" at https://www.gutenberg.org. + +No investigation has been made concerning possible copyrights in +jurisdictions other than the United States. 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What +Homer was to Epic poetry, what Cicero and Demosthenes were to oratory, +and what Shakespeare was to the drama of England, Plato was to ancient +philosophy, not unapproachable nor unapproached, but possessing an +inexplicable but unquestioned supremacy. + +The authentic records of his life are meagre, and much that has been +written concerning him is of a speculative nature. He was born at Athens +in the year 427 B.C. His father's name was Ariston, and his mother's +family, which claimed its descent from Solon, included among its members +many Athenian notables, among whom was Oritias, one of the thirty +tyrants. + +In his early youth Plato applied himself to poetry and painting, both of +which pursuits he relinquished to become the disciple and follower of +Socrates. It is said that his name was originally Aristocles, but that +it was changed to Plato on account of the breadth of his shoulders and +forehead. He is also said to have been an expert wrestler and to have +taken part in several important battles. + +He was the devoted friend and pupil of Socrates, and during the +imprisonment of his master he attended him constantly, and committed to +writing his last discourses on the immortality of the soul. + +After the death of Socrates it is supposed that Plato took refuge with +Euclides in Megara, and subsequently extended his travels into Magna +Graecia and Egypt. + +Upon his return to Athens he taught those who came to him for +instruction in the grove named Academus, near the Cephisus, and thus +founded the first great philosophical school, over which he continued to +preside until the day of his death. Above the entrance to this grove was +inscribed the legend: "Let no one ignorant of geometry enter here." Here +he was attended by persons of every description, among the more +illustrious of whom were Aristotle, Lycurgus, Demosthenes and Isocrates. + +There is a story to the effect that Plato three times visited Sicily, +once upon the invitation of the elder Dionysius, and twice at the +earnest solicitations of the younger. The former he is said to have so +seriously offended as to cause the tyrant to have him seized on his +return home and sold as a slave, from which state of bondage he was, +however, released by Anicerius of Cyrene. + +The people of his time thought more of him than they did of all their +other philosophers, and called him the Divine Plato. So great was the +regard and veneration for him that it was considered better to err with +Plato than be right with any one else. + +The writings of Plato are numerous, and most of them are in the form of +dialogues. The following pages contain translations of three of his +works, viz.: "The Apologia," "The Crito" and "The Phædo," all of which +have reference to the trial, imprisonment and death of Socrates. + +"The Apologia" represents Socrates on trial for his life, undertaking +his own defence, though unaccustomed to the language of the courts, the +occasion being, as he says, the first time he has ever been before a +court of justice, though seventy years of age. Plato was present at the +trial, and no doubt gives us the very arguments used by the accused. Two +charges were brought against Socrates--one that he did not believe in +the gods recognized by the State, the other that he had corrupted the +Athenian youth by his teachings. Socrates does not have recourse to the +ordinary methods adopted by orators on similar occasions. He prefers to +stand upon his own integrity and innocence, uninfluenced by the fear of +that imaginary evil, death. He, therefore, does not firmly grapple with +either of the charges preferred against him. He neither denies nor +confesses the first accusation, but shows that in several instances he +conformed to the religious customs of his country, and that he believes +in God more than he fears man. The second charge he meets by a +cross-examination of his accuser, Melitus, whom he reduces to the +dilemma of charging him with corrupting the youth designedly, which +would be absurd, or with doing so undesignedly, for which he could not +be liable to punishment. + +His defence, however, avails him nothing, and he is condemned by the +judges to die by drinking the poisonous hemlock. In the closing part of +"The Apologia" Socrates is represented as commenting upon the sentence +which has been passed upon him, and as expressing his belief that in +going to his death he is only passing to a better and a happier life. + +In "The Crito" Socrates is represented in conversation with a friend of +his named Crito, who had been present at his trial, and who had offered +to assist Socrates in paying a fine, had a fine been the sentence +imposed. Crito visits Socrates in his confinement to bring to him the +intelligence that the ship, the arrival of which was to be the signal +for his death upon the following day, would arrive forthwith, and to +urge him to adopt the means of escape which had already been prepared. +Socrates promises to follow the advice of Crito if, upon a full +discussion of the matter, it seems right to do so. In the conversation +which ensues Socrates argues that it is wrong to return evil for evil +and that the obligations which a citizen owes to his State are more +binding than those which a child owes his parents or a slave his master, +and, therefore, it is his duty to submit to the laws of Athens at +whatever cost to himself. Crito has no answer to make to this argument, +and Socrates thereupon decides to submit to his fate. + +Plato is said to have had two objects in writing this dialogue: First, +to acquit Socrates of the charge of corrupting the Athenian youth; and, +second, to establish the fact that it is necessary under all +circumstances to submit to the established laws of his country. + +"The Phædo" relates the manner in which Socrates spent the last day of +his life and the circumstances attending his death. He is visited by a +number of his friends, among whom are Phædo, Simmias and Crito. When his +friends arrive they find him sitting upon a bed rubbing his legs, which +have just been released from bonds. He remarks upon the unaccountable +connection between pleasure and pain, and from this the conversation +gradually turns to a consideration of the question of the immortality of +the soul. He convinces his listeners of the pre-existence of the soul; +but they are still skeptical as to its immortality, urging that its +pre-existence and the fact that it is more durable than the body does +not preclude the possibility of its being mortal. Socrates, however, +argues that contraries cannot exist in the same thing at the same time, +as, for example, the same object cannot partake of both magnitude and +littleness at the same time. In like manner, heat while it is heat can +never admit the idea of cold. Life and death are contraries and can +never coexist; but wherever there is life there is soul, so that the +soul contains that which is contrary to death and can never admit death; +consequently the soul is immortal. + +Having convinced his listeners, Socrates bathes and takes leave of his +children and the women of his family. Thereupon the officer appears and +tells him it is time for him to drink the poison. At this his friends +commence to weep and are rebuked by Socrates for their weakness. He +drinks the poison calmly and without hesitation, and then begins to walk +about, still conversing with his friends. His limbs soon grow stiff and +heavy and he lays himself down upon his back. His last words are: +"Crito, we owe a cock to Æsculapius; pay it, therefore, and do not +neglect it." + + + + +THE APOLOGY OF SOCRATES. + + +I know not, O Athenians! how far you have been influenced by my accusers +for my part, in listening to them I almost forgot myself, so plausible +were their arguments however, so to speak, they have said nothing true. +But of the many falsehoods which they uttered I wondered at one of them +especially, that in which they said that you ought to be on your guard +lest you should be deceived by me, as being eloquent in speech. For that +they are not ashamed of being forthwith convicted by me in fact, when I +shall show that I am not by any means eloquent, this seemed to me the +most shameless thing in them, unless indeed they call him eloquent who +speaks the truth. For, if they mean this, then I would allow that I am +an orator, but not after their fashion for they, as I affirm, have said +nothing true, but from me you shall hear the whole truth. Not indeed, +Athenians, arguments highly wrought, as theirs were, with choice phrases +and expressions, nor adorned, but you shall hear a speech uttered +without premeditation in such words as first present themselves. For I +am confident that what I say will be just, and let none of you expect +otherwise, for surely it would not become my time of life to come before +you like a youth with a got up speech. Above all things, therefore, I +beg and implore this of you, O Athenians! if you hear me defending +myself in the same language as that in which I am accustomed to speak +both in the forum at the counters, where many of you have heard me, and +elsewhere, not to be surprised or disturbed on this account. For the +case is this: I now for the first time come before a court of justice, +though more than seventy years old; I am therefore utterly a stranger to +the language here. As, then, if I were really a stranger, you would have +pardoned me if I spoke in the language and the manner in which I had +been educated, so now I ask this of you as an act of justice, as it +appears to me, to disregard the manner of my speech, for perhaps it may +be somewhat worse, and perhaps better, and to consider this only, and to +give your attention to this, whether I speak what is just or not; for +this is the virtue of a judge, but of an orator to speak the truth. + +2. First, then, O Athenians! I am right in defending myself against the +first false accusations alleged against me, and my first accusers, and +then against the latest accusations, and the latest accusers. For many +have been accusers of me to you, and for many years, who have asserted +nothing true, of whom I am more afraid than of Anytus and his party, +although they too are formidable; but those are still more formidable, +Athenians, who, laying hold of many of you from childhood, have +persuaded you, and accused me of what is not true: "that there is one +Socrates, a wise man, who occupies himself about celestial matters, and +has explored every thing under the earth, and makes the worse appear the +better reason." Those, O Athenians! who have spread abroad this report +are my formidable accusers; for they who hear them think that such as +search into these things do not believe that there are gods. In the next +place, these accusers are numerous, and have accused me now for a long +time; moreover, they said these things to you at that time of life in +which you were most credulous, when you were boys and some of you +youths, and they accused me altogether in my absence, when there was no +one to defend me. But the most unreasonable thing of all is, that it is +not possible to learn and mention their names, except that one of them +happens to be a comic poet.[1] Such, however, as, influenced by envy and +calumny, have persuaded you, and those who, being themselves persuaded, +have persuaded others, all these are most difficult to deal with; for it +is not possible to bring any of them forward here, nor to confute any; +but it is altogether necessary to fight, as it were with a shadow, in +making my defense, and to convict when there is no one to answer. +Consider, therefore, as I have said, that my accusers are twofold, some +who have lately accused me, and others long since, whom I have made +mention of; and believe that I ought to defend myself against these +first; for you heard them accusing me first, and much more than these +last. + +Well. I must make my defense, then, O Athenians! and endeavor in this so +short a space of time to remove from your minds the calumny which you +have long entertained. I wish, indeed, it might be so, if it were at all +better both for you and me, and that in making my defense I could effect +something more advantageous still: I think, however, that it will be +difficult, and I am not entirely ignorant what the difficulty is. +Nevertheless, let this turn out as may be pleasing to God, I must obey +the law and make my defense. + +3. Let us, then, repeat from the beginning what the accusation is from +which the calumny against me has arisen, and relying on which Melitus +has preferred this indictment against me. Well. What, then, do they who +charge me say in their charge? For it is necessary to read their +deposition as of public accusers. "Socrates acts wickedly, and is +criminally curious in searching into things under the earth, and in the +heavens, and in making the worse appear the better cause, and in +teaching these same things to others." Such is the accusation: for such +things you have yourselves seen in the comedy of Aristophanes, one +Socrates there carried about, saying that he walks in the air, and +acting many other buffooneries, of which I understand nothing whatever. +Nor do I say this as disparaging such a science, if there be any one +skilled in such things, only let me not be prosecuted by Melitus on a +charge of this kind; but I say it, O Athenians! because I have nothing +to do with such matters. And I call upon most of you as witnesses of +this, and require you to inform and tell each other, as many of you as +have ever heard me conversing; and there are many such among you. +Therefore tell each other, if any one of you has ever heard me +conversing little or much on such subjects. And from this you will know +that other things also, which the multitude assert of me, are of a +similar nature. + +4. However not one of these things is true; nor, if you have heard from +any one that I attempt to teach men, and require payment, is this true. +Though this, indeed, appears to me to be an honorable thing, if one +should be able to instruct men, like Gorgias the Leontine, Prodicus the +Cean, and Hippias the Elean. For each of these, O Athenians! is able, by +going through the several cities, to persuade the young men, who can +attach themselves gratuitously to such of their own fellow-citizens as +they please, to abandon their fellow-citizens and associate with them, +giving them money and thanks besides. There is also another wise man +here, a Parian, who, I hear, is staying in the city. For I happened to +visit a person who spends more money on the sophists than all others +together: I mean Callias, son of Hipponicus. I therefore asked him, for +he has two sons, "Callias," I said, "if your two sons were colts or +calves, we should have had to choose a master for them, and hire a +person who would make them excel in such qualities as belong to their +nature; and he would have been a groom or an agricultural laborer. But +now, since your sons are men, what master do you intend to choose for +them? Who is there skilled in the qualities that become a man and a +citizen? For I suppose you must have considered this, since you have +sons. Is there any one," I said, "or not?" "Certainly," he answered. +"Who is he?" said I, "and whence does he come? and on what terms does he +teach?" He replied, "Evenus the Parian, Socrates, for five minae." And I +deemed Evenus happy, if he really possesses this art, and teaches +admirably. And I too should think highly of myself, and be very proud, +if I possessed this knowledge, but I possess it not, O Athenians. + +5. Perhaps, one of you may now object: "But, Socrates, what have you +done, then? Whence have these calumnies against you arisen? For surely +if you had not busied yourself more than others, such a report and story +would never have got abroad, unless you had done something different +from what most men do. Tell us, therefore, what it is, that we may not +pass a hasty judgment on you." He who speaks thus appears to me to speak +justly, and I will endeavor to show you what it is that has occasioned +me this character and imputation. Listen, then: to some of you perhaps I +shall appear to jest, yet be assured that I shall tell you the whole +truth. For I, O Athenians! have acquired this character through nothing +else than a certain wisdom. Of what kind, then, is this wisdom? Perhaps +it is merely human wisdom. For in this, in truth, I appear to be wise. +They probably, whom I have just now mentioned, possessed a wisdom more +than human, otherwise I know not what to say about it; for I am not +acquainted with it, and whosoever says I am, speaks falsely, and for the +purpose of calumniating me. But, O Athenians! do not cry out against me, +even though I should seem to you to speak somewhat arrogantly. For the +account which I am going to give you is not my own; but I shall refer to +an authority whom you will deem worthy of credit. For I shall adduce to +you the god at Delphi as a witness of my wisdom, if I have any, and of +what it is. You doubtless know Chærepho: he was my associate from youth, +and the associate of most of you; he accompanied you in your late exile, +and returned with you. You know, then, what kind of a man Chærepho was, +how earnest in whatever he undertook. Having once gone to Delphi, he +ventured to make the following inquiry of the oracle (and, as I said, O +Athenians! do not cry out), for he asked if there was any one wiser than +I. The Pythian thereupon answered that there was not one wiser; and of +this, his brother here will give you proofs, since he himself is dead. + +6. Consider, then, why I mention these things: it is because I am going +to show you whence the calumny against me arose. For when I heard this, +I reasoned thus with myself, What does the god mean? What enigma is +this? For I am not conscious to myself that I am wise, either much or +little. What, then, does he mean by saying that I am the wisest? For +assuredly he does not speak falsely: that he could not do. And for a +long time I was in doubt what he meant; afterward, with considerable +difficulty, I had recourse to the following method of searching out his +meaning. I went to one of those who have the character of being wise, +thinking that there, if anywhere, I should confute the oracle, and show +in answer to the response that This man is wiser than I, though you +affirmed that I was the wisest. Having, then, examined this man (for +there is no occasion to mention his name; he was, however, one of our +great politicians, in examining whom I felt as I proceed to describe, O +Athenians!), having fallen into conversation with him, this man appeared +to be wise in the opinion of most other men, and especially in his own +opinion, though in fact he was not so. I thereupon endeavored to show +him that he fancied himself to be wise, but really was not. Hence I +became odious, both to him and to many others who were present. When I +left him, I reasoned thus with myself: I am wiser than this man, for +neither of us appears to know anything great and good; but he fancies he +knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know +anything, so I do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I +appear to be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not +know. After that I went to another who was thought to be wiser than the +former, and formed the very same opinion. Hence I became odious to him +and to many others. + +7. After this I went to others in turn, perceiving indeed, and grieving +and alarmed, that I was making myself odious; however, it appeared +necessary to regard the oracle of the god as of the greatest moment, and +that, in order to discover its meaning, I must go to all who had the +reputation of possessing any knowledge. And by the dog, O Athenians! for +I must tell you the truth, I came to some such conclusion as this: those +who bore the highest reputation appeared to me to be most deficient, in +my researches in obedience to the god, and others who were considered +inferior more nearly approaching to the possession of understanding. But +I must relate to you my wandering, and the labors which I underwent, in +order that the oracle might prove incontrovertible. For after the +politicians I went to the poets, as well the tragic as the dithyrambic +and others, expecting that here I should in very fact find myself more +ignorant than they. Taking up, therefore, some of their poems, which +appeared to me most elaborately finished, I questioned them as to their +meaning, that at the same time I might learn something from them. I am +ashamed, O Athenians! to tell you the truth; however, it must be told. +For, in a word, almost all who were present could have given a better +account of them than those by whom they had been composed. I soon +discovered this, therefore, with regard to the poets, that they do not +effect their object by wisdom, but by a certain natural inspiration, and +under the influence of enthusiasm, like prophets and seers; for these +also say many fine things, but they understand nothing that they say. +The poets appeared to me to be affected in a similar manner; and at the +same time I perceived that they considered themselves, on account of +their poetry, to be the wisest of men in other things, in which they +were not. I left them, therefore, under the persuasion that I was +superior to them, in the same way that I was to the politicians. + +8. At last, therefore, I went to the artisans. For I was conscious to +myself that I knew scarcely anything, but I was sure that I should find +them possessed of much beautiful knowledge. And in this I was not +deceived; for they knew things which I did not, and in this respect they +were wiser than I. But, O Athenians! even the best workmen appeared to +me to have fallen into the same error as the poets; for each, because he +excelled in the practice of his art, thought that he was very wise in +other most important matters, and this mistake of theirs obscured the +wisdom that they really possessed. I therefore asked myself, in behalf +of the oracle, whether I should prefer to continue as I am, possessing +none, either of their wisdom or their ignorance, or to have both as they +have. I answered, therefore, to myself and to the oracle, that it was +better for me to continue as I am. + +9. From this investigation, then, O Athenians! many enmities have arisen +against me, and those the most grievous and severe, so that many +calumnies have sprung from them, and among them this appellation of +being wise; for those who are from time to time present think that I am +wise in those things, with respect to which I expose the ignorance of +others. The god, however, O Athenians! appears to be really wise, and to +mean this by his oracle: that human wisdom is worth little or nothing; +and it is clear that he did not say this to Socrates, but made use of my +name, putting me forward as an example, as if he had said, that man is +the wisest among you, who, like Socrates, knows that he is in reality +worth nothing with respect to wisdom. Still, therefore, I go about and +search and inquire into these things, in obedience to the god, both +among citizens and strangers, if I think any one of them is wise; and +when he appears to me not to be so, I take the part of the god, and show +that he is not wise. And, in consequence of this occupation, I have no +leisure to attend in any considerable degree to the affairs of the state +or my own; but I am in the greatest poverty through my devotion to the +service of the god. + +10. In addition to this, young men, who have much leisure and belong to +the wealthiest families, following me of their own accord, take great +delight in hearing men put to the test, and often imitate me, and +themselves attempt to put others to the test; and then, I think, they +find a great abundance of men who fancy they know something, although +they know little or nothing. Hence those who are put to the test by them +are angry with me, and not with them, and say that "there is one +Socrates, a most pestilent fellow, who corrupts the youth." And when any +one asks them by doing or teaching what, they have nothing to say, for +they do not know; but, that they may not seem to be at a loss, they say +such things as are ready at hand against all philosophers; "that he +searches into things in heaven and things under the earth, that he does +not believe there are gods, and that he makes the worse appear the +better reason." For they would not, I think, be willing to tell the +truth that they have been detected in pretending to possess knowledge, +whereas they know nothing. Therefore, I think, being ambitions and +vehement and numerous, and speaking systematically and persuasively +about me, they have filled your ears, for a long time and diligently +calumniating me. From among these, Melitus, Anytus and Lycon have +attacked me; Melitus being angry on account of the poets, Anytus on +account of the artisans and politicians, and Lycon on account of the +rhetoricians. So that, as I said in the beginning, I should wonder if I +were able in so short a time to remove from your minds a calumny that +has prevailed so long. This, O Athenians! is the truth; and I speak it +without concealing or disguising anything from you, much or little; +though I very well know that by so doing I shall expose myself to odium. +This, however, is a proof that I speak the truth, and that this is the +nature of the calumny against me, and that these are its causes. And if +you will investigate the matter, either now or hereafter, you will find +it to be so. + +11. With respect, then, to the charges which my first accusers have +alleged against me, let this be a sufficient apology to you. To Melitus, +that good and patriotic man, as he says, and to my later accusers, I +will next endeavor to give an answer; and here, again, as there are +different accusers, let us take up their deposition. It is pretty much +as follows: "Socrates," it says, "acts unjustly in corrupting the youth, +and in not believing in those gods in whom the city believes, but in +other strange divinities." Such is the accusation; let us examine each +particular of it. It says that I act unjustly in corrupting the youth. +But I, O Athenians! say that Melitus acts unjustly, because he jests on +serious subjects, rashly putting men upon trial, under pretense of being +zealous and solicitous about things in which he never at any time took +any concern. But that this is the case I will endeavor to prove to you. + +12. Come, then, Melitus, tell me, do you not consider it of the greatest +importance that the youth should be made as virtuous as possible? + +_Mel._ I do. + +_Socr._ Well, now, tell the judges who it is that makes them better, for +it is evident that you know, since it concerns you so much; for, having +detected me in corrupting them, as you say, you have cited me here, and +accused me: come, then, say, and inform the judges who it is that makes +them better. Do you see, Melitus, that you are silent, and have nothing +to say? But does it not appear to you to be disgraceful, and a +sufficient proof of what I say, that you never took any concern about +the matter? But tell me, friend, who makes them better? + +_Mel._ The laws. + +_Socr._ I do not ask this, most excellent sir, but what man, who surely +must first know this very thing, the laws? + +_Mel._ These, Socrates, the judges. + +_Socr._ How say you, Melitus? Are these able to instruct the youth, and +make them better? + +_Mel._ Certainly. + +_Socr._ Whether all, or some of them, and others not? + +_Mel._ All. + +_Socr._ You say well, by Juno! and have found a great abundance of those +that confer benefit. But what further? Can these hearers make them +better, or not? + +_Mel._ They, too, can. + +_Socr._ And what of the senators? + +_Mel._ The senators, also. + +_Socr._ But, Melitus, do those who attend the public assemblies corrupt +the younger men? or do they all make them better? + +_Mel._ They too. + +_Socr._ All the Athenians, therefore, as it seems, make them honorable +and good, except me; but I alone corrupt them. Do you say so? + +_Mel._ I do assert this very thing. + +_Socr._ You charge me with great ill-fortune. But answer me: does it +appear to you to be the same, with respect to horses? Do all men make +them better, and is there only some one that spoils them? or does quite +the contrary of this take place? Is there some one person who can make +them better, or very few; that is, the trainers? But if the generality +of men should meddle with and make use of horses, do they spoil them? Is +not this the case, Melitus, both with respect to horses and all other +animals? It certainly is so, whether you and Anytus deny it or not. For +it would be a great good-fortune for the youth if only one person +corrupted, and the rest benefited them. However, Melitus, you have +sufficiently shown that you never bestowed any care upon youth; and you +clearly evince your own negligence, in that you have never paid any +attention to the things with respect to which you accuse me. + +13. Tell us further, Melitus, in the name of Jupiter, whether is it +better to dwell with good or bad citizens? Answer, my friend; for I ask +you nothing difficult. Do not the bad work some evil to those that are +continually near them, but the good some good? + +_Mel._ Certainly. + +_Socr._ Is there any one that wishes to be injured rather than benefited +by his associates? Answer, good man; for the law requires you to answer. +Is there any one who wishes to be injured? + +_Mel._ No, surely. + +_Socr._ Come, then, whether do you accuse me here, as one that corrupts +the youth, and makes them more depraved, designedly or undesignedly? + +_Mel._ Designedly, I say. + +_Socr._ What, then, Melitus, are you at your time of life so much wiser +than I at my time of life, as to know that the evil are always working +some evil to those that are most near to them, and the good some good; +but I have arrived at such a pitch of ignorance as not to know that if I +make any one of my associates depraved, I shall be in danger of +receiving some evil from him; and yet I designedly bring about this so +great evil, as you say? In this I can not believe you, Melitus, nor do I +think would any other man in the world. But either I do not corrupt the +youth, or, if I do corrupt them, I do it undesignedly: so that in both +cases you speak falsely. But if I corrupt them undesignedly, for such +involuntary offenses it is not usual to accuse one here, but to take one +apart, and teach and admonish one. For it is evident that if I am +taught, I shall cease doing what I do undesignedly. But you shunned me, +and were not willing to associate with and instruct me; but you accuse +me here, where it is usual to accuse those who need punishment, and not +instruction. + +14. Thus, then, O Athenians! this now is clear that I have said; that +Melitus never paid any attention to these matters, much or little. +However, tell us, Melitus, how you say I corrupt the youth? Is it not +evidently, according to the indictment which you have preferred, by +teaching them not to believe in the gods in whom the city believes, but +in other strange deities? Do you not say that, by teaching these things, +I corrupt the youth? + +_Mel._ Certainly I do say so. + +_Socr._ By those very gods, therefore, Melitus, of whom the discussion +now is, speak still more clearly both to me and to these men. For I can +not understand whether you say that I teach them to believe that there +are certain gods (and in that case I do believe that there are gods, and +am not altogether an atheist, nor in this respect to blame), not, +however, those which the city believes in, but others; and this it is +that you accuse me of, that I introduce others. Or do you say outright +that I do not myself believe that there are gods, and that I teach +others the same? + +_Mel._ I say this: that you do not believe in any gods at all. + +_Socr._ O wonderful Melitus, how come you to say this? Do I not, then, +like the rest of mankind, believe that the sun and moon are gods? + +_Mel._ No, by Jupiter, O judges! for he says that the sun is a stone, +and the moon an earth. + +_Socr._ You fancy that you are accusing Anaxagoras, my dear Melitus, and +thus you put a slight on these men, and suppose them to be so illiterate +as not to know that the books of Anaxagoras of Clazomene are full of +such assertions. And the young, moreover, learn these things from me, +which they might purchase for a drachma, at most, in the orchestra, and +so ridicule Socrates, if he pretended they were his own, especially +since they are so absurd? I ask then, by Jupiter, do I appear to you to +believe that there is no god? + +_Mel._ No, by Jupiter, none whatever. + +_Socr._ You say what is incredible, Melitus, and that, as appears to me, +even to yourself. For this man, O Athenians! appears to me to be very +insolent and intemperate and to have preferred this indictment through +downright insolence, intemperance, and wantonness. For he seems, as it +were, to have composed an enigma for the purpose of making an +experiment. Whether will Socrates the wise know that I am jesting, and +contradict myself, or shall I deceive him and all who hear me? For, in +my opinion, he clearly contradicts himself in the indictment, as if he +should say, Socrates is guilty of wrong in not believing that there are +gods, and in believing that there are gods. And this, surely, is the act +of one who is trifling. + +15. Consider with me now, Athenians, in what respect he appears to me to +say so. And do you, Melitus, answer me; and do ye, as I besought you at +the outset, remember not to make an uproar if I speak after my usual +manner. + +Is there any man, Melitus, who believes that there are human affairs, +but does not believe that there are men? Let him answer, judges, and not +make so much noise. Is there any one who does not believe that there are +horses, but that there are things pertaining to horses? or who does not +believe that there are pipers, but that there are things pertaining to +pipes? There is not, O best of men! for since you are not willing to +answer, I say it to you and to all here present. But answer to this at +least: is there any one who believes that there are things relating to +demons, but does not believe that there are demons? + +_Mel._ There is not. + +_Socr._ How obliging you are in having hardly answered; though compelled +by these judges! You assert, then, that I do believe and teach things +relating to demons, whether they be new or old; therefore, according to +your admission, I do believe in things relating to demons, and this you +have sworn in the bill of indictment. If, then, I believe in things +relating to demons, there is surely an absolute necessity that I should +believe that there are demons. Is it not so? It is. For I suppose you to +assent, since you do not answer. But with respect to demons, do we not +allow that they are gods, or the children of gods? Do you admit this or +not? + +_Mel._ Certainly. + +_Socr._ Since, then, I allow that there are demons, as you admit, if +demons are a kind of gods, this is the point in which I say you speak +enigmatically and divert yourself in saying that I do not allow there +are gods, and again that I do allow there are, since I allow that there +are demons? But if demons are the children of gods, spurious ones, +either from nymphs or any others, of whom they are reported to be, what +man can think that there are sons of gods, and yet that there are not +gods? For it would be just as absurd as if any one should think that +there are mules, the offspring of horses and asses, but should not think +there are horses and asses. However, Melitus, it can not be otherwise +than that you have preferred this indictment for the purpose of trying +me, or because you were at a loss what real crime to allege against me; +for that you should persuade any man who has the smallest degree of +sense that the same person can think that there are things relating to +demons and to gods, and yet that there are neither demons, nor gods, +not heroes, is utterly impossible. + +16. That I am not guilty, then, O Athenians! according to the indictment +of Melitus, appears to me not to require a lengthened defense; but what +I have said is sufficient. And as to what I said at the beginning, that +there is a great enmity toward me among the multitude, be assured it is +true. And this it is which will condemn me, if I am condemned, not +Melitus, nor Anytus, but the calumny and envy of the multitude, which +have already condemned many others, and those good men, and will, I +think, condemn others also; for there is no danger that it will stop +with me. + +Perhaps, however, some one may say, "Are you not ashamed, Socrates, to +have pursued a study from which you are now in danger of dying?" To such +a person I should answer with good reason, You do not say well, friend, +if you think that a man, who is even of the least value, ought to take +into the account the risk of life or death, and ought not to consider +that alone when be performs any action, whether he is acting justly or +unjustly, and the part of a good man or bad man. For, according to your +reasoning, all those demi-gods that died at Troy would be vile +characters, as well all the rest as the son of Thetis, who so far +despised danger in comparison of submitting to disgrace, that when his +mother, who was a goddess, spoke to him, in his impatience to kill +Hector, something to this effect, as I think,[2] "My son, if you revenge +the death of your friend Patroclus, and slay Hector, you will yourself +die, for," she said, "death awaits you immediately after Hector;" but +he, on hearing this, despised death and danger, and dreading much more +to live as a coward, and not avenge his friend, said, "May I die +immediately when I have inflicted punishment on the guilty, that I may +not stay here an object of ridicule, by the curved ships, a burden to +the ground?"--do you think that he cared for death and danger? For thus +it is, O Athenians! in truth: wherever any one has posted himself, +either thinking it to be better, or has been posted by his chief, there, +as it appears to me, he ought to remain and meet danger, taking no +account either of death or anything else in comparison with disgrace. + +17. I then should be acting strangely, O Athenians! if, when the +generals whom you chose to command me assigned me my post at Potidæa, at +Amphipolis, and at Delium, I then remained where they posted me, like +any other person, and encountered the danger of death; but when the +deity, as I thought and believed, assigned it as my duty to pass my life +in the study of philosophy, and examining myself and others, I should on +that occasion, through fear of death or any thing else whatsoever, +desert my post, strange indeed would it be; and then, in truth, any one +might justly bring me to trial, and accuse me of not believing in the +gods, from disobeying the oracle, fearing death, and thinking myself to +be wise when I am not. For to fear death, O Athenians! is nothing else +than to appear to be wise, without being so; for it is to appear to know +what one does not know. For no one knows but that death is the greatest +of all good to man; but men fear it, as if they well knew that it is the +greatest of evils. And how is not this the most reprehensible ignorance, +to think that one knows what one does not know? But I, O Athenians! in +this, perhaps, differ from most men; and if I should say that I am in +any thing wiser than another, it would be in this, that not having a +competent knowledge of the things in Hades, I also think that I have not +such knowledge. But to act unjustly, and to disobey my superior, +whether God or man, I know is evil and base. I shall never, therefore, +fear or shun things which, for aught I know, maybe good, before evils +which I know to be evils. So that, even if you should now dismiss me, +not yielding to the instances of Anytus, who said that either I should +not[3] appear here at all, or that, if I did appear, it was impossible +not to put me to death, telling you that if I escaped, your sons, +studying what Socrates teaches, would all be utterly corrupted; if you +should address me thus, "Socrates, we shall not now yield to Anytus, but +dismiss you, on this condition, however, that you no longer persevere in +your researches nor study philosophy; and if hereafter you are detected +in so doing, you shall die"--if, as I said, you should dismiss, me on +these terms, I should say to you, "O Athenians! I honor and love you; +but I shall obey God rather than you; and so long as I breathe and am +able, I shall not cease studying philosophy, and exhorting you and +warning any one of you I may happen to meet, saying, as I have been +accustomed to do: 'O best of men! seeing you are an Athenian, of a city +the most powerful and most renowned for wisdom and strength, are you not +ashamed of being careful for riches, how you may acquire them in +greatest abundance, and for glory, and honor, but care not nor take any +thought for wisdom and truth, and for your soul, how it maybe made most +perfect?'" And if any one of you should question my assertion, and +affirm that he does care for these things, I shall not at once let him +go, nor depart, but I shall question him, sift and prove him. And if he +should appear to me not to possess virtue, but to pretend that he does, +I shall reproach him for that he sets the least value on things of the +greatest worth, but the highest on things that are worthless. Thus I +shall act to all whom I meet, both young and old, stranger and citizen, +but rather to you, my fellow-citizens, because ye are more nearly allied +to me. For be well assured, this the deity commands. And I think that no +greater good has ever befallen you in the city than my zeal for the +service of the god. For I go about doing nothing else than persuading +you, both young and old, to take no care either for the body, or for +riches, prior to or so much as for the soul, how it may be made most +perfect, telling you that virtue does not spring from riches, but riches +and all other human blessings, both private and public, from virtue. If, +then, by saying these things, I corrupt the youth, these things must be +mischievous; but if any one says that I speak other things than these, +he misleads you.[4] Therefore I must say, O Athenians! either yield to +Anytus, or do not, either dismiss me or not, since I shall not act +otherwise, even though I must die many deaths. + +18. Murmur not, O Athenians! but continue to attend to my request, not +to murmur at what I say, but to listen, for, as I think, you will derive +benefit from listening. For I am going to say other things to you, at +which, perhaps, you will raise a clamor; but on no account do so. Be +well assured, then, if you put me to death, being such a man as I say I +am, you will not injure me more than yourselves. For neither will +Melitus nor Anytus harm me; nor have they the power; for I do not think +that it is possible for a better man to be injured by a worse. He may +perhaps have me condemned to death, or banished, or deprived of civil +rights; and he or others may perhaps consider these as mighty evils; I, +how ever, do not consider them so, but that it is much more so to do +what he is now doing, to endeavor to put a man to death unjustly. Now, +therefore, O Athenians! I am far from making a defense on my behalf, as +any one might think, but I do so on your own behalf, lest by condemning +me you should offend at all with respect to the gift of the deity to +you. For, if you should put me to death, you will not easily find such +another, though it may be ridiculous to say so, altogether attached by +the deity to this city as to a powerful and generous horse, somewhat +sluggish from his size, and requiring to be roused by a gad-fly; so the +deity appears to have united me, being such a person as I am, to the +city, that I may rouse you, and persuade and reprove every one of you, +nor ever cease besetting you throughout the whole day. Such another man, +O Athenians! will not easily be found; therefore, if you will take my +advice, you will spare me. But you, perhaps, being irritated like drowsy +persons who are roused from sleep, will strike me, and, yielding to +Anytus, will unthinkingly condemn me to death; and then you will pass +the rest of your life in sleep, unless the deity, caring for you, should +send some one else to you. But that I am a person who has been given by +the deity to this city, you may discern from hence; for it is not like +the ordinary conduct of men, that I should have neglected all my own +affairs, and suffered my private interest to be neglected for so many +years, and that I should constantly attend to your concerns, addressing +myself to each of you separately, like a father, or elder brother, +persuading you to the pursuit of virtue. And if I had derived any profit +from this course, and had received pay for my exhortations, there would +have been some reason for my conduct; but now you see yourselves that my +accusers, who have so shamelessly calumniated me in everything else, +have not had the impudence to charge me with this, and to bring +witnesses to prove that I ever either exacted or demanded any reward. +And I think I produce a sufficient proof that I speak the truth, +namely, my poverty. + +19. Perhaps, however, it may appear absurd that I, going about, thus +advise you in private and make myself busy, but never venture to present +myself in public before your assemblies and give advice to the city. The +cause of this is that which you have often and in many places heard me +mention; because I am moved by a certain divine and spiritual influence, +which also Melitus, through mockery, has set out in the indictment. This +began with me from childhood, being a kind of voice which, when present, +always diverts me from what I am about to do, but never urges me on. +This it is which opposed my meddling in public politics; and it appears +to me to have opposed me very properly. For be well assured, O +Athenians! if I had long since attempted to intermeddle with politics, I +should have perished long ago, and should not have at all benefited you +or myself. And be not angry with me for speaking the truth. For it is +not possible that any man should be safe who sincerely opposes either +you, or any other multitude, and who prevents many unjust and illegal +actions from being committed in a city; but it is necessary that he who +in earnest contends for justice, if he will be safe for but a short +time, should live privately, and take no part in public affairs. + +20. I will give you strong proofs of this, not words, but what you +value, facts. Hear, then, what has happened to me, that you may know +that I would not yield to any one contrary to what is just, through fear +of death, at the same time by not yielding I must perish. I shall tell +you what will be displeasing and wearisome,[5] yet true. For I, O +Athenians! never bore any other magisterial office in the city, but +have been a senator: and our Antiochean tribe happened to supply the +Prytanes when you chose to condemn in a body the ten generals who had +not taken off those that perished in the sea-fight, in violation of the +law, as you afterward all thought. At that time I alone of the Prytanes +opposed your doing anything contrary to the laws, and I voted against +you; and when the orators were ready to denounce me, and to carry me +before a magistrate, and you urged and cheered them on, I thought I +ought rather to meet the danger with law and justice on my side, than +through fear of imprisonment or death, to take part with you in your +unjust designs. And this happened while the city was governed by a +democracy. But when it became an oligarchy, the Thirty, having sent for +me with four others to the Tholus, ordered us to bring Leon the +Salaminian from Salamis, that he might be put to death; and they gave +many similar orders to many others, wishing to involve as many as they +could in guilt. Then, however, I showed, not in word but in deed, that I +did not care for death, if the expression be not too rude, in the +smallest degree; but that all my care was to do nothing unjust or +unholy. For that government, strong as it was, did not so overawe me as +to make me commit an unjust action; but when we came out from the +Tholus, the four went to Salamis, and brought back Leon; but I went away +home. And perhaps for this I should have been put to death, if that +government had not been speedily broken up. And of this you can have +many witnesses. + +21. Do you think, then, that I should have survived so many years if I +had engaged in public affairs, and, acting as becomes a good man, had +aided the cause of justice, and, as I ought, had deemed this of the +highest importance? Far from it, O Athenians! nor would any other man +have done so. But I, through the whole of my life, if I have done +anything in public, shall be found to be a man, and the very same in +private, who has never made a concession to any one contrary to justice, +neither to any other, nor to any one of these whom my calumniators say +are my disciples. I, however, was never the preceptor of any one; but if +any one desired to hear me speaking, and to see me busied about my own +mission, whether he were young or old, I never refused him. Nor do I +discourse when I receive money, and not when I do not receive any, but I +allow both rich and poor alike to question me, and, if any one wishes +it, to answer me and hear what I have to say. And for these, whether any +one proves to be a good man or not, I cannot justly be responsible, +because I never either promised them any instruction or taught them at +all. But if any one says that he has ever learned or heard anything from +me in private which all others have not, be well assured that he does +not speak the truth. + +22. But why do some delight to spend so long a time with me? Ye have +heard, O Athenians! I have told you the whole truth, that they delight +to hear those closely questioned who think that they are wise but are +not; for this is by no means disagreeable. But this duty, as I say, has +been enjoined me by the deity, by oracles, by dreams, and by every mode +by which any other divine decree has ever enjoined anything to man to +do. These things, O Athenians! are both true, and easily confuted if not +true. For if I am now corrupting some of the youths, and have already +corrupted others, it were fitting, surely, that if any of them, having +become advanced in life, had discovered that I gave them bad advice when +they were young, they should now rise up against me, accuse me, and have +me punished; or if they were themselves unwilling to do this, some of +their kindred, their fathers, or brothers, or other relatives, if their +kinsman have ever sustained any damage from me, should now call it to +mind. Many of them, however, are here present, whom I see: first, Crito, +my contemporary and fellow-burgher, father of this Critobulus; then +Lysanias of Sphettus, father of this Æschines; again, Antiphon of +Cephisus, father of Epigenes. There are those others, too, whose +brothers maintained the same intimacy with me, namely, Nicostratus, son +of Theodotus, brother of Theodotus--Theodotus indeed is dead, so that he +could not deprecate his brother's proceedings--and Paralus here, son of +Demodocus, whose brother was Theages; and Adimantus, son of Ariston, +whose brother is this Plato; and Æantodorus, whose brother is this +Apollodorus. I could also mention many others to you, some one of whom +certainly Melitus ought to have adduced in his speech as a witness. If, +however, he then forgot to do so, let him now adduce them; I give him +leave to do so, and let him say it, if he has anything of the kind to +allege. But, quite contrary to this, you will find, O Athenians! all +ready to assist me, who have corrupted and injured their relatives, as +Melitus and Anytus say. For those who have been themselves corrupted +might perhaps have some reason for assisting me; but those who have not +been corrupted, men now advanced in life, their relatives, what other +reason can they have for assisting me, except that right and just one, +that they know that Melitus speaks falsely, and that I speak the truth. + +23. Well, then, Athenians, these are pretty much the things I have to +say in my defense, and others perhaps of the same kind. Perhaps, +however, some among you will be indignant on recollecting his own case, +if he, when engaged in a cause far less than this, implored and besought +the judges with many tears, bringing forward his children in order that +he might excite their utmost compassion, and many others of his +relatives and friends, whereas I do none of these things, although I may +appear to be incurring the extremity of danger. Perhaps, therefore, some +one, taking notice of this, may become more determined against me, and, +being enraged at this very conduct of mine, may give his vote under the +influence of anger. If, then, any one of you is thus affected--I do not, +however, suppose that there is--but if there should be, I think I may +reasonably say to him: "I, too, O best of men, have relatives; for, to +make use of that saying of Homer, I am not sprung from an oak, nor from +a rock, but from men, so that I, too, O Athenians! have relatives, and +three sons, one now grown up, and two boys: I shall not, however, bring +any one of them forward and implore you to acquit me." Why, then, shall I +not do this? Not from contumacy, O Athenians! nor disrespect toward you. +Whether or not I am undaunted at the prospect of death is another +question; but, out of regard to my own character, and yours, and that of +the whole city, it does not appear to me to be honorable that I should +do any thing of this kind at my age, and with the reputation I have, +whether true or false. For it is commonly agreed that Socrates in some +respects excels the generality of men. If, then, those among you who +appear to excel either in wisdom, or fortitude, or any other virtue +whatsoever, should act in such a manner as I have often seen some when +they have been brought to trial, it would be shameful, who appearing +indeed to be something, have conducted themselves in a surprising +manner, as thinking they should suffer something dreadful by dying, and +as if they would be immortal if you did not put them to death. Such men +appear to me to bring disgrace on the city, so that any stranger might +suppose that such of the Athenians as excel in virtue, and whom they +themselves choose in preference to themselves for magistracies and other +honors, are in no respect superior to women. For these things, O +Athenians! neither ought we to do who have attained to any height of +reputation, nor, should we do them, ought you to suffer us; but you +should make this manifest, that you will much rather condemn him who +introduces these piteous dramas, and makes the city ridiculous, than him +who quietly awaits your decision. + +24. But, reputation apart, O Athenians! it does not appear to me to be +right to entreat a judge, or to escape by entreaty; but one ought to +inform and persuade him. For a judge does not sit for the purpose of +administering justice out of favor, but that he may judge rightly, and +he is sworn not to show favor to whom he pleases, but that he will +decide according to the laws. It is, therefore, right that neither +should we accustom you, nor should you accustom yourselves, to violate +your oaths; for in so doing neither of us would act righteously. Think +not then, O Athenians! that I ought to adopt such a course toward you as +I neither consider honorable, nor just, nor holy, as well, by Jupiter! +on any other occasion, and now especially when I am accused of impiety +by this Melitus. For clearly, if I should persuade you, and by my +entreaties should put a constraint on you who are bound by an oath, I +should teach you to think that there are no gods, and in reality, while +making my defense, should accuse myself of not believing in the gods. +This, however, is far from being the case; for I believe, O Athenians! +as none of my accusers do, and I leave it to you and to the deity to +judge concerning me in such way as will be best both for me and for you. + +[Socrates here concludes his defense, and, the votes being taken, he is +declared guilty by a majority of voices. He thereupon resumes his +address.] + +25. That I should not be grieved, O Athenians! at what has +happened--namely, that you have condemned me--as well many other +circumstances concur in bringing to pass; and, moreover this, that what +has happened has not happened contrary to my expectation; but I much +rather wonder at the number of votes on either side. For I did not +expect that I should be condemned by so small a number, but by a large +majority; but now, as it seems, if only three more votes had changed +sides, I should have been acquitted. So far as Melitus is concerned, as +it appears to me, I have been already acquitted; and not only have I +been acquitted, but it is clear to every one that had not Anytus and +Lycon come forward to accuse me, he would have been fined a thousand +drachmas, for not having obtained a fifth part of the votes. + +26. The man, then, awards me the penalty of death. Well. But what shall +I, on my part, O Athenians! award myself? Is it not clear that it will +be such as I deserve? What, then, is that? Do I deserve to suffer, or to +pay a fine? for that I have purposely during my life not remained quiet, +but neglecting what most men seek after, money-making, domestic +concerns, military command, popular oratory, and, moreover, all the +magistracies, conspiracies, and cabals that are met with in the city, +thinking that I was in reality too upright a man to be safe if I took +part in such things, I therefore did not apply myself to those pursuits, +by attending to which I should have been of no service either to you or +to myself; but in order to confer the greatest benefit on each of you +privately, as I affirm, I thereupon applied myself to that object, +endeavoring to persuade every one of you not to take any care of his own +affairs before he had taken care of himself in what way he may become +the best and wisest, nor of the affairs of the city before he took care +of the city itself; and that he should attend to other things in the +same manner. What treatment, then, do I deserve, seeing I am such a man? +Some reward, O Athenians! if, at least, I am to be estimated according +to my real deserts; and, moreover, such a reward as would be suitable to +me. What, then, is suitable to a poor man, a benefactor, and who has +need of leisure in order to give you good advice? There is nothing so +suitable, O Athenians! as that such a man should be maintained in the +Prytaneum, and this much more than if one of you had been victorious at +the Olympic games in a horserace, or in the two or four horsed chariot +race: for such a one makes you appear to be happy, but I, to be so; and +he does not need support, but I do. If, therefore, I must award a +sentence according to my just deserts, I award this, maintenance in the +Prytaneum. + +27. Perhaps, however, in speaking to you thus, I appear to you to speak +in the same presumptuous manner as I did respecting commiseration and +entreaties; but such is not the case, O Athenians! it is rather this: I +am persuaded that I never designedly injured any man, though I can not +persuade you of this, for we have conversed with each other but for a +short time. For if there were the same law with you as with other men, +that in capital cases the trial should list not only one day, but many, +I think you would be persuaded; but it is not easy in a short time to do +away with, great calumnies. Being persuaded, then, that I have injured +no one, I am far from intending to injure myself, and of pronouncing +against myself that I am deserving of punishment, and from awarding +myself any thing of the kind. Through fear of what? lest I should +suffer that which Melitus awards me, of which I say I know not whether +it he good or evil? Instead of this, shall I choose what I well know to +be evil, and award that? Shall I choose imprisonment? And why should I +live in prison, a slave to the established magistracy, the Eleven? Shall +I choose a fine, and to be imprisoned until I have paid it? But this is +the same as that which I just now mentioned, for I have not money to pay +it. Shall I, then, award myself exile? For perhaps you would consent to +this award. I should indeed be very fond of life, O Athenians! if I were +so devoid of reason as not to be able to reflect that you, who are my +fellow-citizens, have been unable to endure my manner of life and +discourses, but they have become so burdensome and odious to you that +you now seek to be rid of them: others, however, will easily bear them. +Far from it, O Athenians! A fine life it would be for me at my age to go +out wandering, and driven from city to city, and so to live. For I well +know that, wherever I may go, the youth will listen to me when I speak, +as they do here. And if I repulse them, they will themselves drive me +out, persuading the elders; and if I do not repulse them, their fathers +and kindred will banish me on their account. + +28. Perhaps, however, some one will say, Can you not, Socrates, when you +have gone from us, live a silent and quiet life? This is the most +difficult thing of all to persuade some of you. For if I say that that +would be to disobey the deity, and that, therefore, it is impossible for +me to live quietly, you would not believe me, thinking I spoke +ironically. If, on the other hand, I say that this is the greatest good +to man, to discourse daily on virtue, and other things which you have +heard me discussing, examining both myself and others, but that a life +without investigation is not worth living for, still less would you +believe me if I said this. Such, however, is the case, as I affirm, O +Athenians! though it is not easy to persuade you. And at the same time I +am not accustomed to think myself deserving of any ill. If, indeed, I +were rich, I would amerce myself in such a sum as I should be able to +pay; for then I should have suffered no harm, but now--for I can not, +unless you are willing to amerce me in such a sum as I am able to pay. +But perhaps I could pay you a mina of silver: in that sum, then, I +amerce myself. But Plato here, O Athenians! and Crito Critobulus, and +Apollodorus bid me amerce myself in thirty minae, and they offer to be +sureties. I amerce myself, then, to you in that sum; and they will be +sufficient sureties for the money. + +[The judges now proceeded to pass the sentence, and condemned Socrates +to death; whereupon he continued:] + +29. For the sake of no long space of time, O Athenians! you will incur +the character and reproach at the hands of those who wish to defame the +city, of having put that wise man, Socrates, to death. For those who +wish to defame you will assert that I am wise, though I am not. If, +then, you had waited for a short time, this would have happened of its +own accord; for observe my age, that it is far advanced in life, and +near death. But I say this not to you all, but to those only who have +condemned me to die. And I say this, too, to the same persons. Perhaps +you think, O Athenians! that I have been convicted through the want of +arguments, by which I might have persuaded you, had I thought it right +to do and say any thing, so that I might escape punishment. Far +otherwise: I have been convicted through want indeed, yet not of +arguments, but of audacity and impudence, and of the inclination to say +such things to you as would have been most agreeable for you to hear, +had I lamented and bewailed and done and said many other things +unworthy of me, as I affirm, but such as you are accustomed to hear from +others. But neither did I then think that I ought, for the sake of +avoiding danger, to do any thing unworthy of a freeman, nor do I now +repent of having so defended myself; but I should much rather choose to +die, having so defended myself, than to live in that way. For neither in +a trial nor in battle is it right that I or any one else should employ +every possible means whereby he may avoid death; for in battle it is +frequently evident that a man might escape death by laying down his +arms, and throwing himself on the mercy of his pursuers. And there are +many other devices in every danger, by which to avoid death, if a man +dares to do and say every thing. But this is not difficult, O Athenians! +to escape death; but it is much more difficult to avoid depravity, for +it runs swifter than death. And now I, being slow and aged, am overtaken +by the slower of the two; but my accusers, being strong and active, have +been overtaken by the swifter, wickedness. And now I depart, condemned +by you to death; but they condemned by truth, as guilty of iniquity and +injustice: and I abide my sentence, and so do they. These things, +perhaps, ought so to be, and I think that they are for the best. + +30. In the next place, I desire to predict to you who have condemned me, +what will be your fate; for I am now in that condition in which men most +frequently prophesy--namely, when they are about to die. I say, then, to +you, O Athenians! who have condemned me to death, that immediately after +my death a punishment will overtake you, far more severe, by Jupiter! +than that which you have inflicted on me. For you have done this, +thinking you should be freed from the necessity of giving an account of +your lives. The very contrary, however, as I affirm, will happen to you. +Your accusers will be more numerous, whom I have now restrained, though +you did not perceive it; and they will be more severe, inasmuch as they +are younger, and you will be more indignant. For if you think that by +putting men to death you will restrain any one from upbraiding you +because you do not live well, you are much mistaken; for this method of +escape is neither possible nor honorable; but that other is most +honorable and most easy, not to put a check upon others, but for a man +to take heed to himself how he may be most perfect. Having predicted +thus much to those of you who have condemned me, I take my leave of you. + +31. But with you who have voted for my acquittal I would gladly hold +converse on what has now taken place, while the magistrates are busy, +and I am not yet carried to the place where I must die. Stay with me, +then, so long, O Athenians! for nothing hinders our conversing with each +other, while we are permitted to do so; for I wish to make known to you, +as being my friends, the meaning of that which has just now befallen me. +To me, then, O my judges! and in calling you judges I call you +rightly--a strange thing has happened. For the wonted prophetic voice of +my guardian deity on every former occasion, even in the most trifling +affairs, opposed me if I was about to do any thing wrong; but now that +has befallen me which ye yourselves behold, and which any one would +think, and which is supposed to be the extremity of evil; yet neither +when I departed from home in the morning did the warning of the god +oppose me, nor when I came up here to the place of trial, nor in my +address when I was about to say any thing; yet on other occasions it has +frequently restrained me in the midst of speaking. But now it has never, +throughout this proceeding, opposed me, either in what I did or said. +What, then, do I suppose to be the cause of this? I will tell you: what +has befallen me appears to be a blessing; and it is impossible that we +think rightly who suppose that death is an evil. A great proof of this +to me is the fact that it is impossible but that the accustomed signal +should have opposed me, unless I had been about to meet with some good. + +32. Moreover, we may hence conclude that there is great hope that death +is a blessing. For to die is one of two things: for either the dead may +be annihilated, and have no sensation of any thing whatever; or, as it +is said, there are a certain change and passage of the soul from one +place to another. And if it is a privation of all sensation, as it were +a sleep in which the sleeper has no dream, death would be a wonderful +gain. For I think that if any one, having selected a night in which he +slept so soundly as not to have had a dream, and having compared this +night with all the other nights and days of his life, should be +required, on consideration, to say how many days and nights he had +passed better and more pleasantly than this night throughout his life, I +think that not only a private person, but even the great king himself, +would find them easy to number, in comparison with other days and +nights. If, therefore, death is a thing of this kind, I say it is a +gain; for thus all futurity appears to be nothing more than one night. +But if, on the other hand, death is a removal from hence to another +place, and what is said be true, that all the dead are there, what +greater blessing can there be than this, my judges? For if, on arriving +at Hades, released from these who pretend to be judges, one shall find +those who are true judges, and who are said to judge there, Minos and +Rhadamanthus, Æacus and Triptolemus, and such others of the demi-gods as +were just during their own life, would this be a sad removal? At what +price would you not estimate a conference with Orpheus and Musæus, +Hesiod and Homer? I indeed should be willing to die often, if this be +true. For to me the sojourn there would be admirable, when I should meet +with Palamedes, and Ajax, son of Telamon, and any other of the ancients +who has died by an unjust sentence. The comparing my sufferings with +theirs would, I think, be no unpleasing occupation. But the greatest +pleasure would be to spend my time in questioning and examining the +people there as I have done those here, and discovering who among them +is wise, and who fancies himself to be so, but is not. At what price, my +judges, would not any one estimate the opportunity of questioning him +who led that mighty army against Troy, or Ulysses, or Sisyphus, or ten +thousand others whom one might mention both men and women--with whom to +converse and associate, and to question them, would be an inconceivable +happiness? Surely for that the judges there do not condemn to death; for +in other respects those who live there are more happy than those who are +here, and are henceforth immortal, if, at least, what is said be true. + +33. You, therefore, O my judges! ought to entertain good hopes with +respect to death, and to meditate on this one truth, that to a good man +nothing is evil, neither while living nor when dead, nor are his +concerns neglected by the gods. And what has befallen me is not the +effect of chance; but this is clear to me, that now to die, and be freed +from my cares is better for me On this account the warning in no way +turned me aside; and I bear no resentment toward those who condemned me, +or against my accusers, although they did not condemn and accuse me with +this intention, but thinking to injure me: in this they deserve to be +blamed. + +Thus much, however, I beg of them. Punish my sons when they grow up, O +judges! paining them as I have pained you, if they appear to you to care +for riches or anything else before virtue; and if they think themselves +to be something when they are nothing, reproach them as I have done you, +for not attending to what they ought, and for conceiving themselves to +be something when they are worth nothing. If ye do this, both I and my +sons shall have met with just treatment at your hands. + +But it is now time to depart--for me to die, for you to live. But which +of us is going to a better state is unknown to every one but God. + + +FOOTNOTES + + [1] Aristophanes. + + [2] "Iliad," lib. xviii. ver. 94, etc. + + [3] See the "Crito," sec. 5. + + [4] ouden legei, literally, "he says nothing:" on se trompe, ou + l'on vous impose, _Cousin_. + + [5] But for the authority of Stallbaum, I should have translated + dikanika "forensic;" that is, such arguments as an advocate would use + in a court of justice. + + + + +INTRODUCTION TO THE CRITO. + + +It has been remarked by Stallbaum that Plato had a twofold design in +this dialogue--one, and that the primary one, to free Socrates from the +imputation of having attempted to corrupt the Athenian youth; the other, +to establish the principle that under all circumstances it is the duty +of a good citizen to obey the laws of his country. These two points, +however, are so closely interwoven with each other, that the general +principle appears only to be illustrated by the example of Socrates. + +Crito was one of those friends of Socrates who had been present at his +trial, and had offered to assist in paying a fine, had a fine been +imposed instead of the sentence of death. He appears to have frequently +visited his friend in prison after his condemnation; and now, having +obtained access to his cell very early in the morning, finds him +composed in a quiet sleep. He brings intelligence that the ship, the +arrival of which would be the signal for his death on the following day, +is expected to arrive forthwith, and takes occasion to entreat Socrates +to make his escape, the means of which were already prepared. Socrates +thereupon, having promised to follow the advice of Crito if, after the +matter had been fully discussed, it should appear to be right to do so, +proposes to consider the duty of a citizen toward his country; and +having established the divine principle that it is wrong to return evil +for evil, goes on to show that the obligations of a citizen to his +country are even more binding than those of a child to its parent, or a +slave to his master, and that therefore it is his duty to obey the +established laws, at whatever cost to himself. + +At length Crito admits that he has no answer to make, and Socrates +resolves to submit himself to the will of Providence. + + + + +CRITO; +OR, +THE DUTY OF A CITIZEN. + + +SOCRATES, CRITO. + +_Socr._ Why have you come at this hour, Crito? Is it not very early? + +_Cri._ It is. + +_Socr._ About what time? + +_Cri._ Scarce day-break. + +_Socr._ I wonder how the keeper of the prison came to admit you. + +_Cri._ He is familiar with me, Socrates, from my having frequently come +hither; and he is under some obligations to me. + +_Socr._ Have you just now come, or some time since? + +_Cri._ A considerable time since. + +_Socr._ Why, then, did you not wake me at once, instead of sitting down +by me in silence? + +_Cri._ By Jupiter! Socrates, I should not myself like to be so long +awake, and in such affliction. But I have been for some time wondering +at you, perceiving how sweetly you slept; and I purposely did not awake +you, that you might pass your time as pleasantly as possible. And, +indeed, I have often before throughout your whole life considered you +happy in your disposition, but far more so in the present calamity, +seeing how easily and meekly you bear it. + +_Socr._ However, Crito, it would be disconsonant for a man at my time of +life to repine because he must needs die. + +_Cri._ But others, Socrates, at your age have been involved in similar +calamities, yet their age has not hindered their repining at their +present fortune. + +_Socr._ So it is. But why did you come so early? + +_Cri._ Bringing sad tidings, Socrates, not sad to you, as it appears, +but to me, and all your friends, sad and heavy, and which I, I think, +shall bear worst of all. + +_Socr._ What tidings? Has the ship[6] arrived from Delos, on the arrival +of which I must die? + +_Cri._ It has not yet arrived, but it appears to me that it will come +to-day, from what certain persons report who have come from Sunium,[7] +and left it there. It is clear, therefore, from these messengers, that +it will come to day, and consequently it will be necessary, Socrates, +for you to die to-morrow. + +2. _Socr._ But with good fortune, Crito, and if so it please the gods, +so be it. I do not think, however, that it will come to day. + +_Cri._ Whence do you form this conjecture? + +_Socr._ I will tell you. I must die on the day after that on which the +ship arrives. + +_Cri._ So they say[8] who have the control of these things. + +_Socr._ I do not think, then, that it will come to-day, but to-morrow. I +conjecture this from a dream which I had this very night, not long ago, +and you seem very opportunely to have refrained from waking me. + +_Cri._ But what was this dream? + +_Socr._ A beautiful and majestic woman, clad in white garments seemed to +approach me, and to call to me and say, "Socrates, three days hence you +will reach fertile Pythia"[9]. + +_Cri._ What a strange dream, Socrates! + +_Socr._ Very clear, however, as it appears to me, Crito. + +3. _Cri._ Very much so, as it seems. But, my dear Socrates, even now be +persuaded by me, and save yourself. For if you die, not only a single +calamity will befall me, but, besides being deprived of such a friend as +I shall never meet with again, I shall also appear to many who do not +know you and me well, when I might have saved you had I been willing to +spend my money, to have neglected to do so. And what character can be +more disgraceful than this--to appear to value one's riches more than +one's friends? For the generality of men will not be persuaded that you +were unwilling to depart hence, when we urged you to it. + +_Socr._ But why, my dear Crito, should we care so much for the opinion +of the many? For the most worthy men, whom we ought rather to regard, +will think that matters have transpired as they really have. + +_Cri._ Yet you see, Socrates, that it is necessary to attend to the +opinion of the many. For the very circumstances of the present case show +that the multitude are able to effect not only the smallest evils, but +even the greatest, if any one is calumniated to them. + +_Socr._ Would, O Crito that the multitude could effect the greatest +evils, that they might also effect the greatest good, for then it would +be well. But now they can do neither; for they can make a man neither +wise nor foolish; but they do whatever chances. + +4. _Cri._ So let it be, then. But answer me this, Socrates: are you not +anxious for me and other friends, lest, if you should escape from hence, +informers should give us trouble, as having secretly carried you off, +and so we should be compelled either to lose all our property, or a very +large sum, or to suffer something else besides this? For, if you fear +any thing of the kind, dismiss your fears; for we are justified in +running the risk to save you--and, if need be, even a greater risk than +this. But be persuaded by me, and do not refuse. + +_Socr._ I am anxious about this, Crito, and about many other things. + +_Cri._ Do not fear this, however; for the sum is not large on receipt of +which certain persons are willing to save you, and take you hence. In +the next place, do you not see how cheap these informers are, so that +there would be no need of a large sum for them? My fortune is at your +service, sufficient, I think, for the purpose; then if, out of regard to +me, you do not think right to spend my money, these strangers here are +ready to spend theirs. One of them, Simmias the Theban, has brought with +him a sufficient sum for the very purpose. Cebes, too, is ready, and +very many others. So that, as I said, do not, through fears of this +kind, hesitate to save yourself, nor let what you said in court give you +any trouble, that if you went from hence you would not know what to do +with yourself. For in many places, and wherever you go, men will love +you; and if you are disposed to go to Thessaly, I have friends there who +will esteem you very highly, and will insure your safety, so that no one +in Thessaly will molest you. + +5. Moreover, Socrates, you do not appear to me to pursue a just course +in giving yourself up when you might be saved; and you press on the very +results with respect to yourself which your enemies would press, and +have pressed, in their anxiety to destroy you. Besides this, too, you +appear to me to betray your own sons, whom, when it is in your power to +rear and educate them, you will abandon, and, so far as you are +concerned, they will meet with such a fate as chance brings them, and, +as is probable, they will meet with such things as orphans are wont to +experience in a state of orphanage. Surely one ought not to have +children, or one should go through the toil of rearing and instructing +them. But you appear to me to have chosen the most indolent course; +though you ought to have chosen such a course as a good and brave man +would have done, since you profess to have made virtue your study +through the whole of your life; so that I am ashamed both for you and +for us who are your friends, lest this whole affair of yours should seem +to be the effect of cowardice on our part--your appearing to stand your +trial in the court, since you appeared when it was in your power not to +have done so, the very manner in which the trial was conducted, and this +last circumstance, as it were, a ridiculous consummation of the whole +business; your appearing to have escaped from us through our indolence +and cowardice, who did not save you; nor did you save yourself, when it +was practicable and possible, had we but exerted ourselves a little. +Think of these things, therefore, Socrates, and beware, lest, besides +the evil _that will result_, they be disgraceful both to you and to us; +advise, then, with yourself; though, indeed, there is no longer time for +advising--your resolve should be already made. And there is but one +plan; for in the following night the whole must be accomplished. If we +delay, it will be impossible and no longer practicable. By all means, +therefore, Socrates, be persuaded by me, and on no account refuse. + +6. _Socr._ My dear Crito, your zeal would be very commendable were it +united with right principle; otherwise, by how much the more earnest it +is, by so much is it the more sad. We must consider, therefore, whether +this plan should be adopted or not. For I not now only, but always, am a +person who will obey nothing within me but reason, according as it +appears to me on mature deliberation to be best. And the reasons which I +formerly professed I can not now reject, because this misfortune has +befallen me; but they appear to me in much the same light, and I respect +and honor them as before; so that if we are unable to adduce any better +at the present time, be assured that I shall not give in to you, even +though the power of the multitude should endeavor to terrify us like +children, by threatening more than it does now, bonds and death, and +confiscation of property. How, therefore, may we consider the matter +most conveniently? First of all, if we recur to the argument which you +used about opinions, whether on former occasions it was rightly resolved +or not, that we ought to pay attention to some opinions, and to others +not; or whether, before it was necessary that I should die, it was +rightly resolved; but now it has become clear that it was said idly for +argument's sake, though in reality it was merely jest and trifling. I +desire then, Crito, to consider, in common with you, whether it will +appear to me in a different light, now that I am in this condition, or +the same, and whether we shall give it up or yield to it. It was said, I +think, on former occasions, by those who were thought to speak +seriously, as I just now observed, that of the opinions which men +entertain some should be very highly esteemed and others not. By the +gods! Crito, does not this appear to you to be well said? For you, in +all human probability, are out of all danger of dying to-morrow, and the +present calamity will not lead your judgment astray. Consider, then; +does it not appear to you to have been rightly settled that we ought not +to respect all the opinions of men, but some we should, and others not? +Nor yet the opinions of all men, but of some we should, and of others +not? What say you? Is not this rightly resolved? + +_Cri._ It is. + +_Socr._ Therefore we should respect the good, but not the bad? + +_Cri._ Yes. + +_Socr._ And are not the good those of the wise, and the bad those of the +foolish? + +_Cri._ How can it be otherwise? + +7. _Socr._ Come, then: how, again, were the following points settled? +Does a man who practices gymnastic exercises and applies himself to +them, pay attention to the praise and censure and opinion of every one, +or of that one man only who happens to be a physician, or teacher of the +exercises? + +_Cri._ Of that one only. + +_Socr._ He ought, therefore, to fear the censures and covet the praises +of that one, but not those of the multitude. + +_Cri._ Clearly. + +_Socr._ He ought, therefore, so to practice and exercise himself, and to +eat and drink, as seems fitting to the one who presides and knows, +rather than to all others together. + +_Cri._ It is so. + +_Socr._ Well, then, if he disobeys the one, and disregards his opinion +and praise, but respects that of the multitude and of those who know +nothing, will he not suffer some evil? + +_Cri._ How should he not? + +_Socr._ But what is this evil? Whither does it tend, and on what part +of him that disobeys will it fall? + +_Cri._ Clearly on his body, for this it ruins. + +_Socr._ You say well. The case is the same, too, Crito, with all other +things, not to go through them all. With respect then, to things just +and unjust, base and honorable, good and evil, about which we are now +consulting, ought we to follow the opinion of the multitude, and to +respect it, or that of one, if there is any one who understands, whom we +ought to reverence and respect rather than all others together? And if +we do not obey him, shall we not corrupt and injure that part of +ourselves which becomes better by justice, but is ruined by injustice? +Or is this nothing? + +_Cri._ I agree with you, Socrates. + +8. _Socr._ Come, then, if we destroy that which becomes better by what +is wholesome, but is impaired by what is unwholesome, through being +persuaded by those who do not understand, can we enjoy life when that is +impaired? And this is the body we are speaking of, is it not? + +_Cri._ Yes. + +_Socr._ Can we, then, enjoy life with a diseased and impaired body? + +_Cri._ By no means. + +_Socr._ But can we enjoy life when that is impaired which injustice +ruins but justice benefits? Or do we think that to be of less value than +the body, whatever part of us it may be, about which injustice and +justice are concerned' + +_Cri._ By no means. + +_Socr._ But of more value? + +_Cri._ Much more. + +_Socr._ We must not then, my excellent friend, so much regard what the +multitude will say of us, but what he will say who understands the just +and the unjust, the one, even truth itself. So that at first you did +not set out with a right principle, when you laid it down that we ought +to regard the opinion of the multitude with respect to things just and +honorable and good, and their contraries. How ever, some one may say, +are not the multitude able to put us to death? + +_Cri._ This, too, is clear, Socrates, any one might say so. + +_Socr._ You say truly. But, my admirable friend, this principle which we +have just discussed appears to me to be the same as it was before[10]. +And consider this, moreover, whether it still holds good with us or not, +that we are not to be anxious about living but about living well. + +_Cri._ It does hold good. + +_Socr._ And does this hold good or not, that to live well and Honorable +and justly are the same thing? + +_Cri._ It does. + +9. _Socr._ From what has been admitted, then, this consideration arises, +whether it is just or not that I should endeavor to leave this place +without the permission of the Athenians. And should it appear to be +just, we will make the attempt, but if not, we will give it up. But as +to the considerations which you mention, of an outlay of money, +reputation, and the education of children, beware, Crito, lest such +considerations as these in reality belong to these multitudes, who +rashly put one to death, and would restore one to life, if they could do +so, without any reason at all. But we, since reason so requires, must +consider nothing else than what we just now mentioned, whether we shall +act justly in paying money and contracting obligations to those who +will lead me hence, as well they who lead me as we who are led hence, or +whether, in truth, we shall not act unjustly in doing all these things. +And if we should appear in so doing to be acting unjustly, observe that +we must not consider whether from remaining here and continuing quiet we +must needs die, or suffer any thing else, rather than whether we shall +be acting unjustly. + +_Cri._ You appear to me to speak wisely, Socrates, but see what we are +to do. + +_Socr._ Let us consider the matter together, my friend, and if you have +any thing to object to what I say, make good your objection, and I will +yield to you, but if not, cease, my excellent friend, to urge upon me +the same thing so often, that I ought to depart hence against the will +of the Athenians. For I highly esteem your endeavors to persuade me thus +to act, so long as it is not against my will Consider, then, the +beginning of our inquiry, whether it is stated to your entire +satisfaction, and endeavor to answer the question put to you exactly as +you think right. + +_Cri._ I will endeavor to do so. + +10. _Socr._ Say we, then, that we should on no account deliberately +commit injustice, or may we commit injustice under certain +circumstances, under others not? Or is it on no account either good or +honorable to commit injustice, as we have often agreed on former +occasions, and as we just now said? Or have all those our former +admissions been dissipated in these few days, and have we, Crito, old +men as we are, been for a long time seriously conversing with each other +without knowing that we in no respect differ from children? Or does the +case, beyond all question, stand as we then determined? Whether the +multitude allow it or not, and whether we must suffer a more severe or a +milder punishment than this, still is injustice on every account both +evil and disgraceful to him who commits it? Do we admit this, or not? + +_Cri._ We do admit it. + +_Socr._ On no account, therefore, ought we to act unjustly. + +_Cri._ Surely not. + +_Socr._ Neither ought one who is injured to return the injury, as the +multitude think, since it is on no account right to act unjustly. + +_Cri._ It appears not. + +_Socr._ What, then? Is it right to do evil, Crito, or not? + +_Cri._ Surely it is not right, Socrates. + +_Socr._ But what? To do evil in return when one has been evil-entreated, +is that right, or not? + +_Cri._ By no means. + +_Socr._ For to do evil to men differs in no respect from committing +injustice. + +_Cri._ You say truly. + +_Socr._ It is not right, therefore, to return an injury, or to do evil +to any man, however one may have suffered from him. But take care, +Crito, that in allowing these things you do not allow them contrary to +your opinion, for I know that to some few only these things both do +appear, and will appear, to be true. They, then, to whom these things +appear true, and they to whom they do not, have no sentiment in common, +and must needs despise each other, while they look to each other's +opinions. Consider well, then, whether you coincide and think with me, +and whether we can begin our deliberations from this point--that it is +never right either to do an injury or to return an injury, or when one +has been evil-entreated, to revenge one's self by doing evil in return, +or do you dissent from, and not coincide in this principle? For so it +appears to me, both long since and now, but if you in any respect think +otherwise, say so and inform me. But if you persist in your former +opinions, hear what follows. + +_Cri._ I do persist in them, and think with you. Speak on, then. + +_Socr._ I say next, then, or rather I ask; whether when a man has +promised to do things that are just he ought to do them, or evade his +promise? + +_Cri._ He ought to do them. + +11. _Socr._ Observe, then, what follows. By departing hence without the +leave of the city, are we not doing evil to some, and that to those to +whom we ought least of all to do it, or not? And do we abide by what we +agreed on as being just, or do we not? + +_Cri._ I am unable to answer your question, Socrates; for I do not +understand it. + +_Socr._ Then, consider it thus. If, while we were preparing to run away, +or by whatever name we should call it, the laws and commonwealth should +come, and, presenting themselves before us, should say, "Tell me, +Socrates, what do you purpose doing? Do you design any thing else by +this proceeding in which you are engaged than to destroy us, the laws, +and the whole city, so far as you are able? Or do you think it possible +for that city any longer to subsist, and not be subverted, in which +judgments that are passed have no force, but are set aside and destroyed +by private persons?"--what should we say, Crito, to these and similar +remonstrances? For any one, especially an orator, would have much to say +on the violation of the law, which enjoins that judgments passed shall +be enforced. Shall we say to them that the city has done us an +injustice, and not passed a right sentence? Shall we say this, or what +else? + +_Cri._ This, by Jupiter! Socrates. + +12. _Socr._ What, then, if the laws should say, "Socrates, was it not +agreed between us that you should abide by the judgments which the city +should pronounce?" And if we should wonder at their speaking thus, +perhaps they would say, "Wonder not, Socrates, at what we say, but +answer, since you are accustomed to make use of questions and answers. +For, come, what charge have you against us and the city, that you +attempt to destroy us? Did we not first give you being? and did not your +father, through us, take your mother to wife and beget you? Say, then, +do you find fault with those laws among us that relate to marriage as +being bad?" I should say, "I do not find fault with them." "Do you with +those that relate to your nurture when born, and the education with +which you were instructed? Or did not the laws, ordained on this point, +enjoin rightly, in requiring your father to instruct you in music and +gymnastic exercises?" I should say, rightly. Well, then, since you were +born, nurtured, and educated through our means, can you say, first of +all, that you are not both our offspring and our slave, as well you as +your ancestors? And if this be so, do you think that there are equal +rights between us? and whatever we attempt to do to you, do you think +you may justly do to us in turn? Or had you not equal rights with your +father, or master, if you happened to have one, so as to return what you +suffered, neither to retort when found fault with, nor, when stricken, +to strike again, nor many other things of the kind; but that with your +country and the laws you may do so; so that if we attempt to destroy +you, thinking it to be just, you also should endeavor, so far as you are +able, in return, to destroy us, the laws, and your country; and in doing +this will you say that you act justly--you who, in reality, make virtue +your chief object? Or are you so wise as not to know that one's country +is more honorable, venerable, and sacred, and more highly prized both by +gods, and men possessed of understanding, than mother and father, and +all other progenitors; and that one ought to reverence, submit to, and +appease one's country, when angry, rather than one's father; and either +persuade it or do what it orders, and to suffer quietly if it bids one +suffer, whether to be beaten, or put in bonds; or if it sends one out to +battle there to be wounded or slain, this must be done; for justice so +requires, and one must not give way, or retreat, or leave one's post; +but that both in war and in a court of justice, and everywhere one must +do what one's city and country enjoin, or persuade it in such manner as +justice allows; but that to offer violence either to one's mother or +father is not holy, much less to one's country? What shall we say to +these things, Crito? That the laws speak the truth, or not? + +_Cri._ It seems so to me. + +13. _Socr._ "Consider, then, Socrates," the laws perhaps might say, +"whether we say truly that in what you are now attempting you are +attempting to do what is not just toward us. For we, having given you +birth, nurtured, instructed you, and having imparted to you and all +other citizens all the good in our power, still proclaim, by giving the +power to every Athenian who pleases, when he has arrived at years of +discretion, and become acquainted with the business of the state, and +us, the laws, that any one who is not satisfied with us may take his +property, and go wherever he pleases. And if any one of you wishes to go +to a colony, if he is not satisfied with us and the city, or to migrate +and settle in another country, none of us, the laws, hinder or forbid +him going whithersoever he pleases, taking with him all his property. +But whoever continues with us after he has seen the manner in which we +administer justice, and in other respects govern the city, we now say +that he has in fact entered into a compact with us to do what we order; +and we affirm that he who does not obey is in three respects guilty of +injustice--because he does not obey us who gave him being, and because +he does not obey us who nurtured him, and because, having made a compact +that he would obey us, he neither does so, nor does he persuade us if we +do any thing wrongly; though we propose for his consideration, and do +not rigidly command him to do what we order, but leave him the choice of +one of two things, either to persuade us, or to do what we require, and +yet he does neither of these." + +14. "And we say that you, O Socrates! will be subject to these charges +if you accomplish your design, and that not least of the Athenians, but +most so of all." And if I should ask, "For what reason?" they would +probably justly retort on me by saying that, among all the Athenians, I +especially made this compact with them. For they would say, "Socrates, +we have strong proof of this, that you were satisfied both with us and +the city; for, of all the Athenians, you especially would never have +dwelt in it if it had not been especially agreeable to you; for you +never went out of the city to any of the public spectacles, except once +to the Isthmian games, nor anywhere else, except on military service, +nor have you ever gone abroad as other men do, nor had you ever had any +desire to become acquainted with any other city or other laws, but we +and our city were sufficient for you; so strongly were you attached to +us, and so far did you consent to submit to our government, both in +other respects and in begetting children in this city, in consequence of +your being satisfied with it. Moreover, in your very trial, it was in +your power to have imposed on yourself a sentence of exile, if you +pleased, and might then have done, with the consent of the city, what +you now attempt against its consent. Then, indeed, you boasted yourself +as not being grieved if you must needs die; but you preferred, as you +said, death to exile. Now, however, you are neither ashamed of those +professions, nor do you revere us, the laws, since you endeavor to +destroy us, and you act as the vilest slave would act, by endeavoring to +make your escape contrary to the conventions and the compacts by which +you engaged to submit to our government. First, then, therefore, answer +us this, whether we speak the truth or not in affirming that you agreed +to be governed by us in deed, though not in word?" What shall we say to +this, Crito? Can we do otherwise than assent? + +_Cri._ We must needs do so, Socrates. + +_Socr._ "What else, then," they will say, "are you doing but violating +the conventions and compacts which you made with us, though you did not +enter into them from compulsion or through deception, or from being +compelled to determine in a short time but during the space of seventy +years, in which you might have departed if you had been dissatisfied +with us, and the compacts had not appeared to you to be just? You, +however, preferred neither Lacedæmon nor Crete, which you several times +said are governed by good laws, nor any other of the Grecian or +barbarian cities; but you have been less out of Athens than the lame and +the blind, and other maimed persons. So much, it is evident, were you +satisfied with the city and us, the laws, beyond the rest of the +Athenians; for who can be satisfied with a city without laws? But now +will you not abide by your compacts? You will, if you are persuaded by +us, Socrates, and will not make yourself ridiculous by leaving the +city." + +15. "For consider, by violating these compacts and offending against any +of them, what good you will do to yourself or your friends. For that +your friends will run the risk of being themselves banished, and +deprived of the rights of citizenship, or of forfeiting their property, +is pretty clear. And as for yourself, if you should go to one of the +neighboring cities, either Thebes or Megara, for both are governed by +good laws, you will go there, Socrates, as an enemy to their polity; and +such as have any regard for their country will look upon you with +suspicion, regarding you as a corrupter of the laws; and you will +confirm the opinion of the judges, so that they will appear to have +condemned you rightly, for whose is a corrupter of the laws will appear +in all likelihood to be a corrupter of youths and weak-minded men. Will +you, then, avoid these well-governed cities, and the best-ordered men? +And should you do so, will it be worth your while to live? Or will you +approach them, and have the effrontery to converse with them, Socrates, +on subjects the same as you did here--that virtue and justice, legal +institutions and laws, should be most highly valued by men? And do you +not think that this conduct of Socrates would be very indecorous? You +must think so. But you will keep clear of these places, and go to +Thessaly, to Crito's friends, for there are the greatest disorder and +licentiousness; and perhaps they will gladly hear you relating how +drolly you escaped from prison, clad in some dress or covered with a +skin, or in some other disguise such as fugitives are wont to dress +themselves in, having so changed your usual appearance. And will no one +say that you, though an old man, with but a short time to live, in all +probability, have dared to have such a base desire of life as to violate +the most sacred laws? Perhaps not, should you not offend any one. But if +you should, you will hear, Socrates, many things utterly unworthy of +you. You will live, too, in a state of abject dependence on all men, +and as their slave. But what will you do in Thessaly besides feasting, +as if you had gone to Thessaly to a banquet? And what will become of +those discourses about justice and all other virtues? But do you wish to +live for the sake of your children, that you may rear and educate them? +What then? Will you take them to Thessaly, and there rear and educate +them, making them aliens to their country, that they may owe you this +obligation too? Or, if not so, being reared here, will they be better +reared and educated while you are living, though not with them, for your +friends will take care of them? Whether, if you go to Thessaly, will +they take care of them, but if you go to Hades will they not take care +of them? If, however, any advantage is to be derived from those that say +they are your friends, we must think they will." + +16. "Then, O Socrates! be persuaded by us who have nurtured you, and do +not set a higher value on your children, or on life, or on any thing +else than justice, that, when you arrive in Hades, you may have all this +to say in your defense before those who have dominion there. For neither +here in this life, if you do what is proposed, does it appear to be +better, or more just, or more holy to yourself, or any of your friends; +nor will it be better for you when you arrive there. But now you depart, +if you do depart, unjustly treated, not by us, the laws, but by men; but +should you escape, having thus disgracefully returned injury for injury, +and evil for evil, having violated your own compacts and conventions +which you made with us, and having done evil to those to whom you least +of all should have done it--namely, yourself, your friends, your +country, and us--both we shall be indignant with you as long as you +live, and there our brothers, the laws in Hades, will not receive you +favorably knowing that you attempted, so far as you were able, to +destroy us. Let not Crito, then, persuade you to do what he advises, +rather than we." + +17. These things, my dear friend Crito, be assured, I seem to hear as +the votaries of Cybele[11] seem to hear the flutes. And the sound of +these words booms in my ear, and makes me incapable of hearing any thing +else. Be sure, then, so long as I retain my present opinions, if you +should say any thing contrary to these, you will speak in vain. If, +however, you think that you can prevail at all, say on. + +_Cri._ But, Socrates, I have nothing to say. + +_Socr._ Desist, then, Crito, and let us pursue this course, since this +way the deity leads us. + + +FOOTNOTES + + [6] See the Phædo sec 1. + + [7] A promontory at the southern extremity of Attica + + [8] The Eleven + + [9] See Homer's "Iliad," 1 IX, v 363 + + [10] That is to say, the principle which we had laid down in former + discussions that no regard is to be had to popular opinion, is still + found to hold good. + + [11] The Corybantes, priests of Cybele, who in their solemn festivals + made such a noise with flutes that the hearers could hear no other + sound. + + + + +INTRODUCTION TO THE PHÆDO. + + +This dialogue presents us with an account of the manner In which +Socrates spent the last day of his, life, and how he met his death. The +main subject is that of the soul's immortality, which Socrates takes +upon himself to prove with as much certainty as it is possible for the +human mind to arrive at. The question itself, though none could be +better suited to the occasion, arises simply and naturally from the +general conversation that precedes it. + +When his friends visit him in the morning for the purpose of spending +this his last day with him, they find him sitting up in bed, and rubbing +his leg, which had just been freed from bonds. He remarks on the +unaccountable alternation and connection between pleasure and pain, and +adds that Æsop, had he observed it, would have made a fable from it. +This remark reminds Cebes of Socrates's having put some of Æsop's fables +into metre since his imprisonment, and he asks, for the satisfaction of +the poet Evenus, what has induced him to do so. Socrates explains his +reason, and concludes by bidding him tell Evenus to follow him as soon +as he can. Simmias expresses his surprise at this message, on which +Socrates asks, "Is not Evenus a philosopher?" and on the question being +answered in the affirmative, he says that he or any philosopher would be +willing to die, though perhaps he would not commit violence on himself. +This, again, seems a contradiction to Simmias; but Socrates explains it +by showing that our souls are placed in the body by God, and may not +leave it without his permission. Whereupon Cebes objects that in that +case foolish men only would wish to die, and quit the service of the +best of masters, to which Simmias agrees. Socrates, therefore, proposes +to plead his cause before them, and to show that there is a great +probability that after this life he shall go into the presence of God +and good men, and be happy in proportion to the purity of his own mind. + +He begins[12] by stating that philosophy itself is nothing else than a +preparation for and meditation on death. Death and philosophy have this +in common: death separates the soul from the body; philosophy draws off +the mind from bodily things to the contemplation of truth and virtue: +for he is not a true philosopher who is led away by bodily pleasures, +since the senses are the source of ignorance and all evil. The mind, +therefore, is entirely occupied in meditating on death, and freeing +itself as much as possible from the body. How, then, can such a man be +afraid of death? He who grieves at the approach of death can not be a +true lover of wisdom, but is a lover of his body. And, indeed, most men +are temperate through intemperance; that is to say, they abstain from +some pleasures that they may the more easily and permanently enjoy +others. They embrace only a shadow of virtue, not virtue itself, since +they estimate the value of all things by the pleasures they afford. +Whereas the philosopher purifies his mind from all such things, and +pursues virtue and wisdom for their own sakes. This course Socrates +himself has pursued to the utmost of his ability, with what success he +should shortly know; and on these grounds he did not repine at leaving +his friends in this world, being persuaded that in another he should +meet with good masters and good friends. + +Upon this Cebes[13] says that he agrees with all else that had been +said, but can not help entertaining doubts of what will become of the +soul when separated from the body, for the common opinion is that it is +dispersed and vanishes like breath or smoke, and no longer exists +anywhere. Socrates, therefore, proposes to inquire into the probability +of the case, a fit employment for him under his present circumstances. + +His first argument[14] is drawn from the ancient belief prevalent among +men, that souls departing hence exist in Hades, and are produced again +from the dead. If this be true, it must follow that our souls are there, +for they could not be produced again if they did not exist; and its +truth is confirmed by this, that it is a general law of nature that +contraries are produced from contraries--the greater from the less, +strong from weak, slow from swift, heat from cold, and in like manner +life from death, and vice versa. To explain this more clearly, he +proceeds to show that what is changed passes from one state to another, +and so undergoes three different states--first, the actual state; then +the transition; and, thirdly, the new state; as from a state of sleep, +by awaking to being awake. In like manner birth is a transition from a +state of death to life, and dying from life to death; so that the soul, +by the act of dying, only passes to another state. If it were not so, +all nature would in time become dead, just as if people did not awake +out of sleep all would at last be buried in eternal sleep. Whence the +conclusion is that the souls of men are not annihilated by death. + +Cebes[15] agrees to this reasoning, and adds that he is further +convinced, of its truth by calling to mind an argument used by Socrates +on former occasions, that knowledge is nothing but reminiscence; and if +this is so, the soul must have existed, and had knowledge, before it +became united to the body. + +But in case Simmias should not yet be satisfied, Socrates[16] proceeds +to enlarge on this, his second argument, drawn from reminiscence. We +daily find that we are carried from the knowledge of one thing to +another. Things perceived by the eyes, ears, and other senses bring up +the thought of other things; thus the sight of a lyre or a garment +reminds us of a friend, and not only are we thus reminded of sensible +objects, but of things which are comprehended by the mind alone, and +have no sensitive existence. For we have formed in our minds an idea of +abstract equality, of the beautiful, the just, the good; in short, of +every thing which we say exists without the aid of the senses, for we +use them only in the perception of individual things; whence it follows +that the mind did not acquire this knowledge in this life, but must have +had it before, and therefore the soul must have existed before. + +Simmias and Cebes[17] both agree in admitting that Socrates has proved +the pre-existence of the soul, but insist that he has not shown it to be +immortal, for that nothing hinders but that, according to the popular +opinion, it may be dispersed at the dissolution of the body. To which +Socrates replies, that if their former admissions are joined to his last +argument, the immortality, as well as the pre-existence, of the soul has +been sufficiently proved. For if it is true that any thing living is +produced from that which is dead, then the soul must exist after death, +otherwise it could not be produced again. + +However, to remove the apprehension that the soul may be dispersed by a +wind, as it were, Socrates proceeds, in his third argument,[18] to +examine that doubt more thoroughly. What, then, is meant by being +dispersed but being dissolved into its parts? In order, therefore, to a +thing being capable of dispersion it must be compounded of parts. Now, +there are two kinds of things--one compounded, the other simple The +former kind is subject to change, the latter not, and can be +comprehended by the mind alone. The one is visible, the other invisible; +and the soul, which is invisible, when it employs the bodily senses, +wanders and is confused, but when it abstracts itself from the body it +attains to the knowledge of that which is eternal, immortal, and +unchangeable. The soul, therefore, being uncompounded and invisible, +must be indissoluble; that is to say, immortal. + +Still Simmias and Cebes[19] are unconvinced. The former objects that the +soul, according to Socrates's own showing, is nothing but a harmony +resulting from a combination of the parts of the body, and so may perish +with the body, as the harmony of a lyre does when the lyre itself is +broken. And Cebes, though he admits that the soul is more durable than +the body, yet objects that it is not, therefore, of necessity immortal, +but may in time wear out; and it is by no means clear that this is not +its last period. + +These objections produce a powerful effect on the rest of the company; +but Socrates, undismayed, exhorts them not to suffer themselves to be +deterred from seeking the truth by any difficulties they may meet with; +and then proceeds[20] to show, in a moment, the fallacy of Simmias's +objection. It was before admitted, he says, that the soul existed before +the body; but harmony is produced after the lyre is formed, so that the +two cases are totally different. And, further, there are various degrees +of harmony, but every soul is as much a soul as any other. But, then, +what will a person who holds this doctrine, that the soul is harmony, +say of virtue and vice in the soul? Will he call them another kind of +harmony and discord? If so, he will contradict himself; for it is +admitted that one soul is not more or less a soul than another, and +therefore one can not he more or less harmonized than another, and one +could not admit of a greater degree of virtue or vice than another; and +indeed a soul, being harmony, could not partake of vice at all, which is +discord. + +Socrates, having thus satisfactorily answered the argument adduced by +Simmias, goes on to rebut that of Cebes,[21] who objected that the soul +might in time wear out. In order to do this, he relates that, when a +young man, he attempted to investigate the causes of all things, why +they exist and why they perish; and in the course of his researches, +finding the futility of attributing the existence of things to what are +called natural causes, he resolved on endeavoring to find out the +reasons of things. He therefore assumed that there are a certain +abstract beauty and goodness and magnitude, and so of all other things; +the truth of which being granted, he thinks he shall be able to prove +that the soul is immortal. + +This, then, being conceded by Cebes, Socrates[22] argues that every +thing that is beautiful is so from partaking of abstract beauty, and +great from partaking of magnitude, and little from partaking of +littleness. Now, it is impossible, he argues, that contraries can exist +in the same thing at the same time; for instance, the same thing can not +possess both magnitude and littleness, but one will withdraw at the +approach of the other; and not only so, but things which, though not +contrary to each other, yet always contain contraries within themselves, +can not co-exist; for instance, the number three has no contrary, yet +it contains within itself the idea of odd, which is the contrary of +even, and so three never can become even; in like manner, heat while it +is heat can never admit the idea of its contrary, cold. Now, if this +method of reasoning is applied to the soul, it will be found to be +immortal; for life and death are contraries, and never can co-exist; but +wherever the soul is, there is life: so that it contains within itself +that which is contrary to death, and consequently can never admit of +death; therefore it is immortal. + +With this he closes his arguments in support of the soul's immortality. +Cebes owns himself convinced, but Simmias, though he is unable to make +any objection to the soundness of Socrates's reasoning, can not help +still entertaining doubts on the subject. If, however, the soul is +immortal, Socrates proceeds,[23] great need is there in this life to +endeavor to become as wise and good as possible. For if death were a +deliverance from every thing, it would be a great gain for the wicked; +but since the soul appears to be immortal, it must go to the place +suited to its nature. For it is said that each person's demon conducts +him to a place where he receives sentence according to his deserts. + +He then[24] draws a fanciful picture of the various regions of the +earth, to which the good and the bad will respectively go after death, +and exhorts his friends to use every endeavor to acquire virtue and +wisdom in this life, "for," he adds, "the reward is noble, and the hope +great." + +Having thus brought his subject to a conclusion, Socrates proposes to +bathe himself, in order not to trouble others to wash his dead body. +Crito thereupon asks if he has any commands to give, and especially how +he would be buried, to which he, with his usual cheerfulness, makes +answer, "Just as you please, if only you can catch me;" and then, +smiling, he reminds them that after death he shall be no longer with +them, and begs the others of the party to be sureties to Crito for his +absence from the body, as they had been before bound for his presence +before his judges. + +After he had bathed, and taken leave of his children and the women of +his family the officer of the Eleven comes in to intimate to him that it +is now time to drink the poison. Crito urges a little delay, as the sun +had not yet set; but Socrates refuses to make himself ridiculous by +showing such a fondness for life. The man who is to administer the +poison is therefore sent for; and on his holding out the cup, Socrates, +neither trembling nor changing color or countenance at all, but, as he +was wont, looking steadfastly at the man, asked if he might make a +libation to any one; and being told that no more poison than enough had +been mixed, he simply prayed that his departure from this to another +world might be happy, and then drank off the poison, readily and calmly. +His friends, who had hitherto with difficulty restrained themselves, +could no longer control the outward expressions of grief, to which +Socrates said, "What are you doing, my friends? I, for this reason, +chiefly, sent away the women, that they might not commit any folly of +this kind; for I have heard that it is right to die with good omens. Be +quiet, therefore, and bear up." + +When he had walked about for a while his legs began to grow heavy, so he +lay down on his back; and his body, from the feet upward, gradually grew +cold and stiff. His last words were, "Crito, we owe a cock to +Æsculapius; pay it, therefore, and do not neglect it." + +"This," concludes Phædo, "was the end of our friend--a man, as we may +say, the best of all his time, that we have known, and, moreover, the +most wise and just." + + +FOOTNOTES + + [12] Sec. 21-39. + + [13] Sec. 39, 40. + + [14] Sec. 40-46. + + [15] Sec. 47. + + [16] Sec. 48-57. + + [17] Sec. 55-59. + + [18] Sec. 61-75. + + [19] Sec. 76-84. + + [20] Sec. 93-99. + + [21] Sec. 100-112. + + [22] Sec. 112-128. + + [23] Sec. 129-131. + + [24] Sec. 132-145. + + + + +PHÆDO; +OR, +THE IMMORTALITY OF THE SOUL. + + +FIRST ECHECRATES, PHÆDO. +THEN SOCRATES, APOLLODORUS, CEBES, SIMMIAS, AND CRITO. + +_Ech._ Were you personally present, Phædo, with Socrates on that day +when he drank the poison in prison, or did you hear an account of it +from some one else? + +_Phæd._ I was there myself, Echecrates. + +_Ech._ What, then, did he say before his death, and how did he die? for +I should be glad to hear: for scarcely any citizen of Phlius[25] ever +visits Athens now, nor has any stranger for a long time come from thence +who was able to give us a clear account of the particulars, except that +he had died from drinking poison; but he was unable to tell us any thing +more. + +2. _Phæd._ And did you not hear about the trial--how it went off? + +_Ech._ Yes; some one told me this; and I wondered that, as it took +place so long ago, he appears to have died long afterward. What was the +reason of this, Phædo? + +_Phæd._ An accidental circumstance happened in his favor, Echecrates; +for the poop of the ship which the Athenians send to Delos chanced to be +crowned on the day before the trial. + +_Ech._ But what is this ship? + +_Phæd._ It is the ship, as the Athenians say, in which Theseus formerly +conveyed the fourteen boys and girls to Crete, and saved both them and +himself. They, therefore, made a vow to Apollo on that occasion, as it +is said, that if they were saved they would every year dispatch a solemn +embassy to Delos; which, from that time to the present, they send yearly +to the god. 3. When they begin the preparations for this solemn embassy, +they have a law that the city shall be purified during this period, and +that no public execution shall take place until the ship has reached +Delos, and returned to Athens; and this occasionally takes a long time, +when the winds happen to impede their passage. The commencement of the +embassy is when the priest of Apollo has crowned the poop of the ship. +And this was done, as I said, on the day before the trial: on this +account Socrates had a long interval in prison between the trial and his +death. + +4. _Ech._ And what, Phædo, were the circumstances of his death? What was +said and done? and who of his friends were with him? or would not the +magistrates allow them to be present, but did he die destitute of +friends? + +_Phæd._ By no means; but some, indeed several, were present. + +_Ech._ Take the trouble, then, to relate to me all the particulars as +clearly as you can, unless you have any pressing business. + +_Phæd._ I am at leisure, and will endeavor to give you a full account; +for to call Socrates to mind, whether speaking myself or listening to +some one else, is always most delightful to me. + +5. _Ech._ And indeed, Phædo, you have others to listen to you who are of +the same mind. However, endeavor to relate every thing as accurately as +you can. + +_Phæd._ I was, indeed, wonderfully affected by being present, for I was +not impressed with a feeling of pity, like one present at the death of a +friend; for the man appeared to me to be happy, Echecrates, both from +his manner and discourse, so fearlessly and nobly did he meet his death: +so much so, that it occurred to me that in going to Hades he was not +going without a divine destiny, but that when he arrived there he would +be happy, if any one ever was. For this reason I was entirely +uninfluenced by any feeling of pity, as would seem likely to be the case +with one present on so mournful an occasion; nor was I affected by +pleasure from being engaged in philosophical discussions, as was our +custom; for our conversation was of that kind. But an altogether +unaccountable feeling possessed me, a kind of unusual mixture compounded +of pleasure and pain together, when I considered that he was immediately +about to die. And all of us who were present were affected in much the +same manner, at one time laughing, at another weeping--one of us +especially, Apollodorus, for you know the man and his manner. + +_Ech._ How should I not? + +6. _Phæd._ He, then, was entirely overcome by these emotions; and I, +too, was troubled, as well as the others. + +_Ech._ But who were present, Phædo? + +_Phæd._ Of his fellow-countrymen, this Apollodorus was present, and +Critobulus, and his father, Crito; moreover, Hermogenes, Epigenes, +Æschines and Antisthenes; Ctesippus the Pæanian, Menexenus, and some +others of his countrymen, were also there: Plato, I think, was sick. + +_Ech._ Were any strangers present? + +_Phæd._ Yes; Simmias, the Theban, Cebes and Phædondes; and from Megara, +Euclides and Terpsion. + +7. _Ech._ But what! were not Aristippus and Cleombrotus present? + +_Phæd._ No, for they were said to be at Ægina. + +_Ech._ Was any one else there? + +_Phæd._ I think that these were nearly all who were present. + +_Ech._ Well, now, what do you say was the subject of conversation? + +_Phæd._ I will endeavor to relate the whole to you from the beginning. +On the preceding days I and the others were constantly in the habit of +visiting Socrates, meeting early in the morning at the court house where +the trial took place, for it was near the prison. 8. Here, then, we +waited every day till the prison was opened, conversing with each other, +for it was not opened very early; but as soon as it was opened we went +in to Socrates, and usually spent the day with him. On that occasion, +however, we met earlier than usual; for on the preceding day, when we +left the prison in the evening, we heard that the ship had arrived from +Delos. We therefore urged each other to come as early as possible to the +accustomed place. Accordingly we came; and the porter, who used to admit +us, coming out, told us to wait, and not to enter until he had called +us. "For," he said, "the Eleven are now freeing Socrates from his bonds, +and announcing to him that he must die to-day." But in no long time he +returned, and bade us enter. + +9. When we entered, we found Socrates just freed from his bonds, and +Xantippe, you know her, holding his little boy, and sitting by him. As +soon as Xantippe saw us she wept aloud, and said such things as women +usually do on such occasions--as, "Socrates, your friends will now +converse with you for the last time, and you with them." But Socrates, +looking towards Crito, said: "Crito, let some one take her home." Upon +which some of Crito's attendants led her away, wailing and beating +herself. + +But Socrates, sitting up in bed, drew up his leg, and rubbed it with his +hand, and as he rubbed it, said: "What an unaccountable thing, my +friends, that seems to be, which men call pleasure! and how wonderfully +is it related toward that which appears to be its contrary, pain, in +that they will not both be present to a man at the same time! Yet if any +one pursues and attains the one, he is almost always compelled to +receive the other, as if they were both united together from one head." + +10. "And it seems tome," he said, "that if Æsop had observed this he +would have made a fable from it, how the deity, wishing to reconcile +these warring principles, when he could not do so, united their heads +together, and from hence whomsoever the one visits the other attends +immediately after; as appears to be the case with me, since I suffered +pain in my leg before from the chain, but now pleasure seems to have +succeeded." + +Hereupon Cebes, interrupting him, said: "By Jupiter! Socrates, you have +done well in reminding me; with respect to the poems which you made, by +putting into metre those Fables of Æsop and the hymn to Apollo, several +other persons asked me, and especially Evenus recently, with what design +you made them after you came here, whereas before you had never made +any. 11. If therefore, you care at all that I should be able to answer +Evenus, when he asks me again--for I am sure he will do so--tell me +what I must say to him." + +"Tell him the truth, then, Cebes," he replied, "that I did not make them +from a wish to compete with him, or his poems, for I knew that this +would be no easy matter; but that I might discover the meaning of +certain dreams, and discharge my conscience, if this should happen to be +the music which they have often ordered me to apply myself to. For they +were to the following purport: often in my past life the same dream +visited me, appearing at different times in different forms, yet always +saying the same thing--'Socrates,' it said, 'apply yourself to and +practice music.' 12. And I formerly supposed that it exhorted and +encouraged me to continue the pursuit I was engaged in, as those who +cheer on racers, so that the dream encouraged me to continue the pursuit +I was engaged in--namely, to apply myself to music, since philosophy is +the highest music, and I was devoted to it. But now since my trial took +place, and the festival of the god retarded my death, it appeared to me +that if by chance the dream so frequently enjoined me to apply myself to +popular music, I ought not to disobey it, but do so, for that it would +be safer for me not to depart hence before I had discharged my +conscience by making some poems in obedience to the dream. Thus, then, I +first of all composed a hymn to the god whose festival was present; and +after the god, considering that a poet, if he means to be a poet, ought +to make fables, and not discourses, and knowing that I was not skilled +in making fables, I therefore put into verse those Fables of Æsop, which +were at hand, and were known to me, and which first occurred to me." + +13. "Tell this, then, to Evenus, Cebes, and bid him farewell, and if he +is wise, to follow me as soon as he can. But I depart, as it seems, +to-day; for so the Athenians order." + +To this Simmias said, "What is this, Socrates, which you exhort Evenus +to do? for I often meet with him; and, from what I know of him, I am +pretty certain that he will not at all be willing to comply with your +advice." + +"What, then," said he, "is not Evenus a philosopher?" + +"To me he seems to be so," said Simmias. + +"Then he will be willing," rejoined Socrates, "and so will every one who +worthily engages in this study. Perhaps, indeed, he will not commit +violence on himself; for that, they say, is not allowable." And as he +said this he let down his leg from the bed on the ground, and in this +posture continued during the remainder of the discussion. + +Cebes then asked him, "What do you mean, Socrates, by saying that it is +not lawful to commit violence on one's self, but that a philosopher +should be willing to follow one who is dying?" + +14. "What, Cebes! have not you and Simmias, who have conversed +familiarly with Philolaus[26] on this subject, heard?" + +"Nothing very clearly, Socrates." + +"I, however, speak only from hearsay; what, then, I have heard I have no +scruple in telling. And perhaps it is most becoming for one who is about +to travel there to inquire and speculate about the journey thither, what +kind we think it is. What else can one do in the interval before +sunset?" + +"Why, then, Socrates, do they say that it is not allowable to kill one's +self? for I, as you asked just now, have heard both Philolaus, when he +lived with us, and several others, say that it was not right to do this; +but I never heard any thing clear upon the subject from any one." + +15. "Then, you should consider it attentively," said Socrates, "for +perhaps you may hear. Probably, however, it will appear wonderful to +you, if this alone, of all other things, is a universal truth,[27] and +it never happens to a man, as is the case in all other things, that at +some times and to some persons only it is better to die than to live; +yet that these men for whom it is better to die--this probably will +appear wonderful to you--may not without impiety do this good to +themselves, but must await another benefactor." + +16. Then Cebes, gently smiling, said, speaking in his own dialect,[28] +"Jove be witness!" + +"And, indeed," said Socrates, "it would appear to be unreasonable; yet +still, perhaps, it has some reason on its side. The maxim, indeed, given +on this subject in the mystical doctrines,[29] that we men are in a kind +of prison, and that we ought not to free ourselves from it and escape, +appears to me difficult to be understood, and not easy to penetrate. +This, however, appears to me, Cebes, to be well said: that the gods take +care of us, and that we men are one of their possessions. Does it not +seem so to you?" + +"It does," replied Cebes. + +"Therefore," said he, "if one of your slaves were to kill himself, +without your having intimated that you wished him to die, should you not +be angry with him, and should you not punish him if you could?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +"Perhaps, then, in this point of view, it is not unreasonable to assert +that a man ought not to kill himself before the deity lays him under a +necessity of doing so, such as that now laid on me." + +17. "This, indeed," said Cebes, "appears to be probable. But what you +said just now, Socrates, that philosophers should be very willing to +die, appears to be an absurdity, if what we said just now is agreeable +to reason--that it is God who takes care of us, and that we are his +property. For that the wisest men should not be grieved at leaving that +service in which they govern them who are the best of all +masters--namely, the gods--is not consistent with reason; for surely he +can not think that he will take better care of himself when he has +become free. But a foolish man might perhaps think thus, that he should +fly from his master, and would not reflect that he ought not to fly from +a good one, but should cling to him as much as possible; therefore he +would fly against all reason; but a man of sense would desire to be +constantly with one better than himself. Thus, Socrates, the contrary of +what you just now said is likely to be the case; for it becomes the wise +to be grieved at dying, but the foolish to rejoice." + +18. Socrates, on hearing this, appeared to me to be pleased with the +pertinacity of Cebes, and, looking toward us, said, "Cebes, you see, +always searches out arguments, and is not at all willing to admit at +once any thing one has said." + +Whereupon Simmias replied, "But, indeed, Socrates, Cebes appears to me +now to say something to the purpose; for with what design should men +really wise fly from masters who are better than themselves, and so +readily leave them? And Cebes appears to me to direct his argument +against you, because you so easily endure to abandon both us and those +good rulers, as you yourself confess, the gods." + +"You speak justly," said Socrates, "for I think you mean that I ought to +make my defense to this charge, as if I were in a court of justice." + +"Certainly," replied Simmias. + +19. "Come, then," said he, "I will endeavor to defend myself more +successfully before you than before the judges. For," he proceeded, +"Simmias and Cebes, if I did not think that I should go, first of all, +among other deities who are both wise and good, and, next, among men who +have departed this life, better than any here, I should be wrong in not +grieving at death; but now, be assured, I hope to go among good men, +though I would not positively assert it. That, however, I shall go among +gods who are perfectly good masters, be assured I can positively assert +this, if I can any thing of the kind. So that, on this account, I am not +so much troubled, but I entertain a good hope that something awaits +those who die, and that, as was said long since, it will be far better +for the good than the evil." + +20. "What, then, Socrates," said Simmias, "would you go away keeping +this persuasion to yourself, or would you impart it to us? For this good +appears to me to be also common to us; and at the same time it will be +an apology for you, if you can persuade us to believe what you say." + +"I will endeavor to do so," he said. "But first let us attend to Crito +here, and see what it is he seems to have for some time wished to say." + +"What else, Socrates," said Crito, "but what he who is to give you the +poison told me some time ago, that I should tell you to speak as little +as possible? For he says that men become too much heated by speaking, +and that nothing of this kind ought to interfere with the poison; and +that, otherwise, those who did so were sometimes compelled to drink two +or three times." + +To which Socrates replied, "Let him alone, and let him attend to his own +business, and prepare to give it me twice, or, if occasion require, even +thrice." + +21. "I was almost certain what you would say," answered Crito, "but he +has been some time pestering me." + +"Never mind him," he rejoined. + +"But now I wish to render an account to you, my judges, of the reason +why a man who has really devoted his life to philosophy, when he is +about to die, appears to me, on good grounds, to have confidence, and to +entertain a firm hope that the greatest good will befall him in the +other world when he has departed this life. How, then, this comes to +pass, Simmias and Cebes, I will endeavor to explain." + +"For as many as rightly apply themselves to philosophy seem to have left +all others in ignorance, that they aim at nothing else than to die and +be dead. If this, then, is true, it would surely be absurd to be anxious +about nothing else than this during their whole life, but, when it +arrives, to be grieved at what they have been long anxious about and +aimed at." + +22. Upon this, Simmias, smiling, said, "By Jupiter! Socrates, though I +am not now at all inclined to smile, you have made me do so; for I think +that the multitude, if they heard this, would think it was very well +said in reference to philosophers, and that our countrymen particularly +would agree with you, that true philosophers do desire death, and that +they are by no means ignorant that they deserve to suffer it." + +"And, indeed, Simmias, they would speak the truth, except in asserting +that they are not ignorant; for they are ignorant of the sense in which +true philosophers desire to die, and in what sense they deserve death, +and what kind of death. But," he said, "let us take leave of them, and +speak to one another. Do we think that death is any thing?" + +"Certainly," replied Simmias. + +23. "Is it any thing else than the separation of the soul from the +body? And is not this to die, for the body to be apart by itself +separated from the soul, and for the soul to subsist apart by itself +separated from the body? Is death any thing else than this?" + +"No, but this," he replied. + +"Consider, then, my good friend, whether you are of the same opinion as +I; for thus, I think, we shall understand better the subject we are +considering. Does it appear to you to be becoming in a philosopher to be +anxious about pleasures, as they are called, such as meats and drinks?" + +"By no means, Socrates," said Simmias. + +"But what? about the pleasures of love?" + +"Not at all." + +24. "What, then? Does such a man appear to you to think other bodily +indulgences of value? For instance, does he seem to you to value or +despise the possession of magnificent garments and sandals, and other +ornaments of the body except so far as necessity compels him to use +them?" + +"The true philosopher," he answered, "appears to me to despise them." + +"Does not, then," he continued, "the whole employment of such a man +appear to you to be, not about the body, but to separate himself from it +as much as possible, and be occupied about his soul?" + +"It does." + +"First of all, then, in such matters, does not the philosopher, above +all other men, evidently free his soul as much as he can from communion +with the body?" + +"It appears so." + +25. "And it appears, Simmias, to the generality of men, that he who +takes no pleasure in such things, and who does not use them, does not +deserve to live; but that he nearly approaches to death who cares +nothing for the pleasures that subsist through the body." + +"You speak very truly." + +"But what with respect to the acquisition of wisdom? Is the body an +impediment, or not, if any one takes it with him as a partner in the +search? What I mean is this: Do sight and hearing convey any truth to +men, or are they such as the poets constantly sing, who say that we +neither hear nor see any thing with accuracy? If, however, these bodily +senses are neither accurate nor clear, much less can the others be so; +for they are all far inferior to these. Do they not seem so to you?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +26. "When, then," said he, "does the soul light on the truth? for when +it attempts to consider any thing in conjunction with the body, it is +plain that it is then led astray by it." + +"You say truly." + +"Must it not, then, be by reasoning, if at all, that any of the things +that really are become known to it?" + +"Yes." + +"And surely the soul then reasons best when none of these things disturb +it--neither hearing, nor sight, nor pain, nor pleasure of any kind; but +it retires as much as possible within itself, taking leave of the body; +and, so far as it can, not communicating or being in contact with it, it +aims at the discovery of that which is." + +"Such is the case." + +"Does not, then, the soul of the philosopher, in these cases, despise +the body, and flee from it, and seek to retire within itself?" + +"It appears so." + +27. "But what as to such things as these, Simmias? Do we say that +justice itself is something or nothing?" + +"We say it is something, by Jupiter!" + +"And that beauty and goodness are something?" + +"How not?" + +"Now, then, have you ever seen any thing of this kind with your eyes?" + +"By no means," he replied. + +"Did you ever lay hold of them by any other bodily sense? But I speak +generally, as of magnitude, health, strength and, in a word, of the +essence of every thing; that is to say, what each is. Is, then, the +exact truth of these perceived by means of the body, or is it thus, +whoever among us habituates himself to reflect most deeply and +accurately on each several thing about which he is considering, he will +make the nearest approach to the knowledge of it?" + +"Certainly." + +28. "Would not he, then, do this with the utmost purity, who should in +the highest degree approach each subject by means of the mere mental +faculties, neither employing the sight in conjunction with the +reflective faculty, nor introducing any other sense together with +reasoning; but who, using pure reflection by itself, should attempt to +search out each essence purely by itself, freed as much as possible from +the eyes and ears, and, in a word, from the whole body, as disturbing +the soul, and not suffering it to acquire truth and wisdom, when it is +in communion with it. Is not he the person, Simmias, if any one can, who +will arrive at the knowledge of that which is?" + +29. "You speak with wonderful truth, Socrates," replied Simmias. + +"Wherefore," he said, "it necessarily follows from all this that some +such opinion as this should be entertained by genuine philosophers, so +that they should speak among themselves as follows: 'A by-path, as it +were, seems to lead us on in our researches undertaken by reason,' +because so long as we are encumbered with the body, and our soul is +contaminated with such an evil, we can never fully attain to what we +desire; and this, we say, is truth. For the body subjects us to +innumerable hinderances on account of its necessary support; and, +moreover, if any diseases befall us, they impede us in our search after +that which is; and it fills us with longings, desires, fears, all kinds +of fancies, and a multitude of absurdities, so that, as it is said in +real truth, by reason of the body it is never possible for us to make +any advances in wisdom. 30. For nothing else than the body and its +desires occasion wars, seditions, and contests; for all wars among us +arise on account of our desire to acquire wealth: and we are compelled +to acquire wealth on account of the body, being enslaved to its service; +and consequently on all these accounts we are hindered in the pursuit of +philosophy. But the worst of all is, that if it leaves us any leisure, +and we apply ourselves to the consideration of any subject, it +constantly obtrudes itself in the midst of our researches, and occasions +trouble and disturbance, and confounds us so that we are not able, by +reason of it, to discern the truth. It has, then, in reality been +demonstrated to us that if we are ever to know any thing purely, we must +be separated from the body, and contemplate the things themselves by the +mere soul; and then, as it seems, we shall obtain that which we desire, +and which we profess ourselves to be lovers of--wisdom--when we are +dead, as reason shows, but not while we are alive. 31. For if it is not +possible to know any thing purely in conjunction with the body, one of +these two things must follow, either that we can never acquire +knowledge, or only after we are dead; for then the soul will subsist +apart by itself, separate from the body, but not before. And while we +live we shall thus, as it seems, approach nearest to knowledge, if we +hold no intercourse or communion at all with the body, except what +absolute necessity requires, nor suffer ourselves to be polluted by its +nature, but purify ourselves from it, until God himself shall release +us. And thus being pure, and freed from the folly of body, we shall in +all likelihood be with others like ourselves, and shall of ourselves +know the whole real essence, and that probably is truth; for it is not +allowable for the impure to attain to the pure. Such things, I think, +Simmias, all true lovers of wisdom must both think and say to one +another. Does it not seem so to you?" + +"Most assuredly, Socrates." + +32. "If this, then," said Socrates, "is true, my friend, there is great +hope for one who arrives where I am going, there, if anywhere, to +acquire that in perfection for the sake of which we have taken so much +pains during our past life; so that the journey now appointed me is set +out upon with good hope, and will be so by any other man who thinks that +his mind has been, as it were, purified." + +"Certainly," said Simmias. + +"But does not purification consist in this, as was said in a former part +of our discourse, in separating as much as possible the soul from the +body, and in accustoming it to gather and collect itself by itself on +all sides apart from the body, and to dwell, so far as it can, both now +and hereafter, alone by itself, delivered, as it were, from the shackles +of the body?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +33. "Is this, then, called death, this deliverance and separation of the +soul from the body?" + +"Assuredly," he answered. + +"But, as we affirmed, those who pursue philosophy rightly are especially +and alone desirous to deliver it; and this is the very study of +philosophers, the deliverance and separation of the soul from the body, +is it not?" + +"It appears so." + +"Then, as I said at first, would it not be ridiculous for a man who has +endeavored throughout his life to live as near as possible to death, +then, when death arrives, to grieve? would not this be ridiculous?" + +"How should it not?" + +"In reality, then, Simmias," he continued, "those who pursue philosophy +rightly, study to die; and to them, of all men, death is least +formidable. Judge from this. Since they altogether hate the body and +desire to keep the soul by itself, would it not be irrational if, when +this comes to pass, they should be afraid and grieve, and not be glad to +go to that place where, on their arrival, they may hope to obtain that +which they longed for throughout life? But they longed for wisdom, and +to be freed from association with that which they hated. 34. Have many +of their own accord wished to descend into Hades, on account of human +objects of affection, their wives and sons, induced by this very hope of +their seeing and being with those whom they have loved? and shall one +who really loves wisdom, and firmly cherishes this very hope, that he +shall nowhere else attain it in a manner worthy of the name, except in +Hades, be grieved at dying, and not gladly go there? We must think that +he would gladly go, my friend, if he be in truth a philosopher; for he +will be firmly persuaded of this, that he will nowhere else than there +attain wisdom in its purity; and if this be so, would it not be very +irrational, as I just now said, if such a man were to be afraid of +death?" + +"Very much so, by Jupiter!" he replied. + +35. "Would not this, then," he resumed, "be a sufficient proof to you +with respect to a man whom you should see grieved when about to die, +that he was not a lover of wisdom, but a lover of his body? And this +same person is probably a lover of riches and a lover of honor, one or +both of these." + +"It certainly is as you say," he replied. + +"Does not, then," he said, "that which is called fortitude, Simmias, +eminently belong to philosophers?" + +"By all means," he answered. + +"And temperance, also, which even the multitude call temperance, and +which consists in not being carried away by the passions, but in holding +them in contempt, and keeping them in subjection, does not this belong +to those only who most despise the body, and live in the study of +philosophy?" + +"Necessarily so," he replied. + +36. "For," he continued, "if you will consider the fortitude and +temperance of others, they will appear to you to be absurd." + +"How so, Socrates?" + +"Do you know," he said, "that all others consider death among the great +evils?" + +"They do indeed," he answered. + +"Then, do the brave among them endure death when they do endure it, +through dread of greater evils?" + +"It is so." + +"All men, therefore, except philosophers, are brave through being afraid +and fear; though it is absurd that any one should be brave through fear +and cowardice." + +"Certainly." + +"But what, are not those among them who keep their passions in +subjection affected in the same way? and are they not temperate through +a kind of intemperance? And although we may say, perhaps, that this is +impossible, nevertheless the manner in which they are affected with +respect to this silly temperance resembles this, for, fearing to be +deprived of other pleasures, and desiring them, they abstain from some, +being mastered by others. And though they call intemperance the being +governed by pleasures, yet it happens to them that, by being mastered by +some pleasures, they master others, and this is similar to what was just +now said, that in a certain manner they become temperate through +intemperance." + +"So it seems," + +37. "My dear Simmias, consider that this is not a right exchange for +virtue, to barter pleasures for pleasures, pains for pains, fear for +fear, and the greater for the lesser, like pieces of money, but that +that alone is the right coin, for which we ought to barter all these +things, wisdom, and for this and with this everything is in reality +bought and sold Fortitude, temperance and justice, and, in a word true +virtue, subsist with wisdom, whether pleasures and fears, and everything +else of the kind, are present or absent, but when separated from wisdom +and changed one for another, consider whether such virtue is not a mere +outline and in reality servile, possessing neither soundness nor truth. +But the really true virtue is a purification from all such things, and +temperance, justice, fortitude and wisdom itself, are a kind of +initiatory purification 38. And those who instituted the mysteries for +us appear to have been by no means contemptible, but in reality to have +intimated long since that whoever shall arrive in Hades unexpiated and +uninitiated shall lie in mud, but he that arrives there purified and +initiated shall dwell with the gods 'For there are,' say those who +preside at the mysteries, 'many wand-bearers, but few inspired'. These +last, in my opinion, are no other than those who have pursued philosophy +rightly that I might be of their number. I have to the utmost of my +ability left no means untried, but have endeavored to the utmost of my +power. But whether I have endeavored rightly, and have in any respect +succeeded, on arriving there I shall know clearly, if it please +God--very shortly, as it appears to me." + +39. "Such, then, Simmias and Cebes," he added, "is the defense I make, +for that I, on good grounds, do not repine or grieve at leaving you and +my masters here, being persuaded that there, no less than here, I shall +meet with good masters and friends. But to the multitude this is +incredible If, however, I have succeeded better with you in my defense +than I did with the Athenian judges, it is well." + +When Socrates had thus spoken, Cebes, taking up the discussion, said +"Socrates, all the rest appears to me to be said rightly, but what you +have said respecting the soul will occasion much incredulity in many +from the apprehension that when it is separated from the body it no +longer exists anywhere, but is destroyed and perishes on the very day in +which a man dies, and that immediately it is separated and goes out from +the body it is dispersed, and vanishes like breath or smoke, and is no +longer anywhere, since if it remained anywhere united in itself, and +freed from those evils which you have just now enumerated, there would +be an abundant and good hope, Socrates, that what you say is true 40. +But this probably needs no little persuasion and proof, that the soul of +a man who dies exists, and possesses activity and intelligence." + +"You say truly, Cebes," said Socrates, "but what shall we do? Are you +willing that we should converse on these points, whether such is +probably the case or not?" + +"Indeed," replied Cebes, "I should gladly hear your opinion on these +matters." + +"I do not think," said Socrates, "that any one who should now hear us, +even though he were a comic poet, would say that I am talking idly, or +discoursing on subjects that do not concern me. If you please, then, we +will examine into it. Let us consider it in this point of view, whether +the souls of men who are dead exist in Hades, or not. This is an ancient +saying, which we now call to mind, that souls departing hence exist +there, and return hither again, and are produced from the dead. 41. And +if this is so, that the living are produced again from the dead, can +there be any other consequence than that our souls are there? for surely +they could not be produced again if they did not exist; and this would +be sufficient proof that these things are so, if it should in reality be +evident that the living are produced from no other source than the dead. +But if this is not the case, there will be need of other arguments." + +"Certainly," said Cebes. + +"You must not, then," he continued, "consider this only with respect to +men, if you wish to ascertain it with greater certainty, but also with +respect to all animals and plants, and, in a word, with respect to every +thing that is subject to generation. Let us see whether they are not all +so produced, no otherwise than contraries from contraries, wherever they +have any such quality; as, for instance, the honorable is contrary to +the base, and the just to the unjust, and so with ten thousand other +things. 42. Let us consider this, then, whether it is necessary that all +things which have a contrary should be produced from nothing else than +their contrary. As, for instance, when any thing becomes greater, is it +not necessary that, from being previously smaller, it afterward became +greater?" + +"Yes." + +"And if it becomes smaller, will it not, from being previously greater, +afterward become smaller?" + +"It is so," he replied. + +"And from stronger, weaker? and from slower, swifter?" + +"Certainly." + +"What, then? If any thing becomes worse, must it not become so from +better? and if more just, from more unjust?" + +"How should it not?" + +"We have then," he said, "sufficiently determined this, that all things +are thus produced, contraries from contraries?" + +"Certainly." + +"What next? Is there also something of this kind in them; for instance, +between all two contraries a mutual twofold production, from one to the +other, and from that other back again? for between a greater thing and a +smaller there are increase and decrease, and do we not accordingly call +the one to increase, the other to decrease?" + +"Yes," he replied. + +43. "And must not to be separated and commingled, to grow cold and to +grow warm, and every thing in the same manner, even though sometimes we +have not names to designate them, yet in fact be everywhere thus +circumstanced, of necessity, as to be produced from each other, and be +subject to a reciprocal generation?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +"What, then?" said Socrates, "has life any contrary, as waking has its +contrary, sleeping?" + +"Certainly," he answered. + +"What?" + +"Death," he replied. + +"Are not these, then, produced from each other, since they are +contraries; and are not the modes by which they are produced two-fold +intervening between these two?" + +"How should it be otherwise?" + +"I then," continued Socrates, "will describe to you one pair of the +contraries which I have just now mentioned, both what it is and its mode +of production: and do you describe to me the other. I say that one is to +sleep, the other to awake; and from sleeping awaking is produced, and +from awaking sleeping, and that the modes of their production are, the +one to fall asleep, the other to be roused. 44. Have I sufficiently +explained this to you or not?" + +"Certainly." + +"Do you, then," he said, "describe to me in the same manner with respect +to life and death? Do you not say that life is contrary to death?" + +"I do." + +"And that they are produced from each other?" + +"Yes." + +"What, then, is produced from life?" + +"Death," he replied. + +"What, then," said he "is produced from death?" + +"I must needs confess," he replied, "that life is." + +"From the dead, then, O Cebes! living things and living men are +produced." + +"It appears so," he said. + +"Our souls, therefore," said Socrates, "exist in Hades." + +"So it seems." + +"With respect, then, to their mode of production, is not one of them +very clear? for to die surely is clear, is it not?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +"What, then, shall we do?" he continued; "shall we not find a +corresponding contrary mode of production, or will nature be defective +in this? Or must we discover a contrary mode of production to dying?" + +"By all means," he said. + +"What is this?" + +"To revive." + +"Therefore," he proceeded, "if there is such a thing as to revive, will +not this reviving be a mode of production from the dead to the living?" + +"Certainly." + +"Thus, then, we have agreed that the living are produced from the dead, +no less than the dead from the living; but, this being the case, there +appears to me sufficient proof that the souls of the dead must +necessarily exist somewhere, from whence they are again produced." + +45. "It appears to me, Socrates," he said "that this must necessarily +follow from what has been admitted." + +"See now, O Cebes!" he said, "that we have not agreed on these things +improperly, as it appears to me; for if one class of things were not +constantly given back in the place of another, revolving, as it were, in +a circle, but generation were direct from one thing alone into its +opposite, and did not turn round again to the other, or retrace its +course, do you know that all things would at length have the same form, +be in the same state, and cease to be produced?" + +"How say you?" he asked. + +"It is by no means difficult," he replied, "to understand what I mean; +if, for instance, there should be such a thing as falling asleep, but no +reciprocal waking again produced from a state of sleep, you know that at +length all things would show the fable of Endymion to be a jest, and it +would be thought nothing at all of, because everything else would be in +the same state as he--namely, asleep. And if all things were mingled +together, but never separated, that doctrine of Anaxagoras would soon be +verified, 'all things would be together.' 46. Likewise, my dear Cebes, +if all things that partake of life should die, and after they are dead +should remain in this state of death, and not revive again, would it not +necessarily follow that at length all things should be dead, and nothing +alive? For if living beings are produced from other things, and living +beings die, what could prevent their being all absorbed in death?" + +"Nothing whatever, I think, Socrates," replied Cebes; "but you appear to +me to speak the exact truth." + +"For, Cebes," he continued, "as it seems to me, such undoubtedly is the +case, and we have not admitted these things under a delusion, for it is +in reality true that there is a reviving again, that the living are +produced from the dead, that the souls of the dead exist, and that the +condition of the good is better, and of the evil worse." + +47. "And, indeed," said Cebes, interrupting him, "according to that +doctrine, Socrates, which you are frequently in the habit of advancing, +if it is true, that our learning is nothing else than reminiscence, +according to this it is surely necessary that we must at some former +time have learned what we now remember. But this is impossible, unless +our soul existed somewhere before it came into this human form; so that +from hence, also, the soul appears to be something immortal." + +"But, Cebes," said Simmias, interrupting him, "what proofs are there of +these things? Remind me of them, for I do not very well remember them at +present." + +48. "It is proved," said Cebes, "by one argument, and that a most +beautiful one, that men, when questioned (if one questions them +properly) of themselves, describe all things as they are, however, if +they had not innate knowledge and right reason, they would never be +able to do this. Moreover, if one leads them to diagrams, or any thing +else of the kind, it is then most clearly apparent that this is the +case." + +"But if you are not persuaded in this way, Simmias," said Socrates, "see +if you will agree with us in considering the matter thus. For do you +doubt how that which is called learning is reminiscence?" + +"I do not doubt," said Simmias; "but I require this very thing of which +we are speaking, to be reminded; and, indeed, from what Cebes has begun +to say, I almost now remember, and am persuaded; nevertheless, however, +I should like to hear now how you would attempt to prove it." + +"I do it thus" he replied: "we admit, surely, that if any one be +reminded of any thing, he must needs have known that thing at some time +or other before." + +"Certainly," he said. + +49. "Do we, then, admit this also, that when knowledge comes in a +certain manner it is reminiscence? But the manner I mean is this: if any +one, upon seeing or hearing, or perceiving through the medium of any +other sense, some particular thing, should not only know that, but also +form an idea of something else, of which the knowledge is not the same, +but different, should we not justly say that he remembered that of which +he received the idea?" + +"How mean you?" + +"For instance, the knowledge of a man is different from that of a lyre." + +"How not?" + +"Do you not know, then, that lovers when they see a lyre, or a garment, +or any thing else which their favorite is accustomed to use, are thus +affected; they both recognize the lyre, and receive in their minds the +form of the person to whom the lyre belonged? This is reminiscence: just +as any one, seeing Simmias, is often reminded of Cebes, and so in an +infinite number of similar instances." + +"An infinite number, indeed, by Jupiter!" said Simmias. + +"Is not, then," he said, "something of this sort a kind of reminiscence, +especially when one is thus affected with respect to things which, from +lapse of time, and not thinking of them, one has now forgotten?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +50. "But what?" he continued. "Does it happen that when one sees a +painted horse or a painted lyre one is reminded of a man, and that when +one sees a picture of Simmias one is reminded of Cebes?" + +"Certainly." + +"And does it not also happen that on seeing a picture of Simmias one is +reminded of Simmias himself?" + +"It does, indeed," he replied. + +"Does it not happen, then, according to all this, that reminiscence +arises partly from things like, and partly from things unlike?" + +"It does." + +"But when one is reminded by things like, is it not necessary that one +should be thus further affected, so as to perceive whether, as regards +likeness, this falls short or not of the thing of which one has been +reminded?" + +"It is necessary," he replied. + +"Consider, then," said Socrates, "if the case is thus. Do we allow that +there is such a thing as equality? I do not mean of one log with +another, nor one stone with another, nor any thing else of this kind, +but something altogether different from all these--abstract equality; do +we allow that there is any such thing, or not?" + +"By Jupiter! we most assuredly do allow it," replied Simmias. + +51. "And do we know what it is itself?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +"Whence have we derived the knowledge of it? Is it not from the things +we have just now mentioned, and that from seeing logs, or stones, or +other things of the kind, equal, we have from these formed an idea of +that which is different from these--for does it not appear to you to be +different? Consider the matter thus. Do not stones that are equal, and +logs sometimes that are the same, appear at one time equal, and at +another not?" + +"Certainly." + +"But what? Does abstract equality ever appear to you unequal? or +equality inequality?" + +"Never, Socrates, at any time." + +"These equal things, then," he said, "and abstract equality, are not the +same?" + +"By no means, Socrates, as it appears." + +"However, from these equal things," he said, "which are different from +that abstract equality, have you not formed your idea and derived your +knowledge of it?" + +"You speak most truly," he replied. + +"Is it not, therefore, from its being like or unlike them?" + +"Certainly." + +"But it makes no difference," he said. "When, therefore, on seeing one +thing, you form, from the sight of it, the notion of another, whether +like or unlike, this," he said, "must necessarily be reminiscence." + +"Certainly." + +52. "What, then, as to this?" he continued. "Are we affected in any such +way with regard to logs and the equal things we have just now spoken of? +And do they appear to us to be equal in the same manner as abstract +equality itself is, or do they fall short in some degree, or not at +all, of being such as equality itself is?" + +"They fall far short," he replied. + +"Do we admit, then, that when one, on beholding some particular thing, +perceives that it aims, as that which I now see, at being like something +else that exists, but falls short of it, and can not become such as that +is, but is inferior to it--do we admit that he who perceives this must +necessarily have had a previous knowledge of that which he says it +resembles, though imperfectly?" + +"It is necessary." + +"What, then? Are we affected in some such way, or not, with respect to +things equal and abstract equality itself?" + +"Assuredly." + +"It is necessary, therefore, that we must have known abstract equality +before the time when, on first seeing equal things, we perceived that +they all aimed at resembling equality, but failed in doing so." + +"Such is the case." + +53. "Moreover, we admit this too, that we perceived this, and could not +possibly perceive it by any other means than the sight, or touch, or +some other of the senses, for I say the same of them all." + +"For they are the same, Socrates, so far as, our argument is concerned." + +"However, we must perceive, by means of the senses, that all things +which come under the senses aim at that abstract equality, and yet fall +short of it; or how shall we say it is?" + +"Even so." + +"Before, then, we began to see, and hear, and use our other senses, we +must have had a knowledge of equality itself--what it is, if we were to +refer to it those equal things that come under the senses, and observe +that all such things aim at resembling that, but fall far short of it." + +"This necessarily follows, Socrates, from what has been already said." + +"But did we not, as soon as we were born, see and hear, and possess our +other senses?" + +"Certainly." + +"But, we have said, before we possessed these, we must have had a +knowledge of abstract equality?" + +"Yes." + +"We must have had it, then, as it seems, before we were born." + +"It seems so." + +54. "If, therefore, having this before we were born, we were born +possessing it, we knew, both before we were born and as soon as we were +born, not only the equal and the greater and smaller, but all things of +the kind; for our present discussion is not more respecting equality +than the beautiful itself, the good, the just, and the holy, and, in one +word, respecting every thing which we mark with the seal of existence, +both in the questions we ask and the answers we give. So that we must +necessarily have had a knowledge of all these before we were born." + +"Such is the case." + +"And if, having once had it, we did not constantly forget it, we should +always be born with this knowledge, and should always retain it through +life. For to know is this, when one has got a knowledge of any thing, to +retain and not lose it; for do we not call this oblivion, Simmias, the +loss of knowledge?" + +"Assuredly, Socrates," he replied. + +55. "But if, having had it before we were born, we lose it at our +birth, and afterward, through exercising the senses about these things, +we recover the knowledge which we once before possessed, would not that +which we call learning be a recovery of our own knowledge? And in saying +that this is to remember, should we not say rightly?" + +"Certainly." + +"For this appeared to be possible, for one having perceived any thing, +either by seeing or hearing, or employing any other sense, to form an +idea of something different from this, which he had forgotten, and with +which this was connected by being unlike or like. So that, as I said, +one of these two things must follow: either we are all born with this +knowledge, and we retain it through life, or those whom we say learn +afterward do nothing else than remember, and this learning will be +reminiscence." + +"Such, certainly, is the case, Socrates." + +56. "Which, then, do you choose, Simmias: that we are born with +knowledge, or that we afterward remember what we had formerly known?" + +"At present, Socrates, I am unable to choose." + +"But what? Are you able to choose in this case, and what do you think +about it? Can a man who possesses knowledge give a reason for the things +that he knows, or not?" + +"He needs must be able to do so, Socrates," he replied. + +"And do all men appear to you to be able to give a reason for the things +of which we have just now been speaking?" + +"I wish they could," said Simmias; "but I am much more afraid that at +this time to-morrow there will no longer be any one able to do this +properly." + +"Do not all men, then, Simmias," he said, "seem to you to know these +things?" + +"By no means." + +"Do they remember, then, what they once learned?" + +"Necessarily so." + +"When did our souls receive this knowledge? Not surely, since we were +born into the world." + +"Assuredly not." + +"Before, then?" + +"Yes." + +"Our souls, therefore, Simmias, existed before they were in a human +form, separate from bodies, and possessed intelligence." + +57. "Unless, Socrates, we receive this knowledge at our birth, for this +period yet remains." + +"Be it so, my friend. But at what other time do we lose it? for we are +not born with it, as we have just now admitted. Do we lose it, then, at +the very time in which we receive it? Or can you mention any other +time?" + +"By no means, Socrates; I was not aware that I was saying nothing to the +purpose." + +"Does the case then stand thus with us, Simmias?" he proceeded: "If +those things which we are continually talking about really exist, the +beautiful, the good, and every such essence, and to this we refer all +things that come under the senses, as finding it to have a prior +existence, and to be our own, and if we compare these things to it, it +necessarily follows, that as these exist, so likewise our soul exists +even before we are born; but if these do not exist, this discussion will +have been undertaken in vain, is it not so? And is there not an equal +necessity both that these things should exist, and our souls also, +before we are born; and if not the former, neither the latter?" + +58. "Most assuredly, Socrates," said Simmias, "there appears to me to be +the same necessity; and the argument admirably tends to prove that our +souls exist before we are born, just as that essence does which you have +now mentioned. For I hold nothing so clear to me as this, that all such +things most certainly exist, as the beautiful, the good, and all the +rest that you just now spoke of; and, so far as I am concerned, the case +is sufficiently demonstrated." + +"But how does it appear to Cebes?" said Socrates; "for it is necessary +to persuade Cebes too." + +"He is sufficiently persuaded, I think," said Simmias, "although he is +the most pertinacious of men in distrusting arguments. Yet I think he is +sufficiently persuaded of this, that our soul existed before we were +born. But whether, when we are dead, it will still exist does not appear +to me to have been demonstrated, Socrates," he continued; "but that +popular doubt, which Cebes just now mentioned, still stands in our way, +whether, when a man dies, the soul is not dispersed, and this is the end +of its existence. 59. For what hinders it being born, and formed from +some other source, and existing before it came into a human body, and +yet, when it has come, and is separated from this body, its then also +dying itself, and being destroyed?" + +"You say well, Simmias," said Cebes; "for it appears that only one half +of what is necessary has been demonstrated--namely, that our soul +existed before we were born; but it is necessary to demonstrate further, +that when we are dead it will exist no less than before we were born, if +the demonstration is to be made complete." + +"This has been even now demonstrated, Simmias and Cebes," said Socrates, +"if you will only connect this last argument with that which we before +assented to, that every thing living is produced from that which is +dead. For if the soul exists before, and it is necessary for it when it +enters into life, and is born, to be produced from nothing else than +death, and from being dead, how is it not necessary for it also to +exist after death, since it must needs be produced again? 60. What you +require, then, has been already demonstrated. However, both you and +Simmias appear to me as if you wished to sift this argument more +thoroughly, and to be afraid, like children, lest, on the soul's +departure from the body, the winds should blow it away and disperse it, +especially if one should happen to die, not in a calm, but in a violent +storm." + +Upon this Cebes, smiling, said, "Endeavor to teach us better, Socrates, +as if we were afraid, or rather not as if we were afraid, though perhaps +there is some boy[30] within us who has such a dread. Let us, then, +endeavor to persuade him not to be afraid of death, as of hobgoblins." + +"But you must charm him every day," said Socrates, "until you have +quieted his fears." + +"But whence, Socrates," he said, "can we procure a skillful charmer for +such a case, now that you are about to leave us?" + +61. "Greece is wide, Cebes," he replied, "and in it surely there are +skillful men. There are also many barbarous nations, all of which you +should search through, seeking such a charmer, sparing neither money nor +toil, as there is nothing on which you can more seasonably spend your +money. You should also seek for him among yourselves; for perhaps you +could not easily find any more competent than yourselves to do this." + +"This shall be done," said Cebes; "but, if it is agreeable to you, let +us return to the point from whence we digressed." + +"It will be agreeable to me, for how should it not?" + +"You say well," rejoined Cebes. + +"We ought, then," said Socrates, "to ask ourselves some such question +as this: to what kind of thing it appertains to be thus +affected--namely, to be dispersed--and for what we ought to fear, lest +it should be so affected, and for what not. And after this we should +consider which of the two the soul is, and in the result should either +be confident or fearful for our soul." + +"You speak truly," said he. + +62. "Does it not, then, appertain to that which is formed by +composition, and is naturally compounded, to be thus affected, to be +dissolved in the same manner as that in which it was compounded; and if +there is any thing not compounded, does it not appertain to this alone, +if to any thing, not to be thus affected?" + +"It appears to me to be so," said Cebes. + +"Is it not most probable, then, that things which are always the same, +and in the same state, are uncompounded, but that things which are +constantly changing, and are never in the same state, are compounded?" + +"To me it appears so." + +"Let us return, then," he said, "to the subjects on which we before +discoursed. Whether is essence itself, of which we gave this account +that it exists, both in our questions and answers, always the same, or +does it sometimes change? Does equality itself, the beautiful itself, +and each several thing which is, ever undergo any change, however small? +Or does each of them which exists, being an unmixed essence by itself, +continue always the same, and in the same state, and never undergo any +variation at all under any circumstances?" + +"They must of necessity continue the same and in the same state, +Socrates," said Cebes. + +63. "But what shall we say of the many beautiful things, such as men, +horses, garments, or other things of the kind, whether equal or +beautiful, or of all things synonymous with them? Do they continue the +same, or, quite contrary to the former, are they never at any time, so +to say, the same, either with respect to themselves or one another?" + +"These, on the other hand," replied Cebes, "never continue the same." + +"These, then, you can touch, or see, or perceive by the other senses; +but those that continue the same, you can not apprehend in any other way +than by the exercise of thought; for such things are invisible, and are +not seen?" + +"You say what is strictly true," replied Cebes. + +64. "We may assume, then, if you please," he continued, "that there are +two species of things; the one visible, the other invisible?" + +"We may," he said. + +"And the invisible always continuing the same, but the visible never the +same?" + +"This, too," he said, "we may assume." + +"Come, then," he asked, "is there anything else belonging to us than, on +the one hand, body, and, on the other, soul?" + +"Nothing else," he replied. + +"To which species, then, shall we say the body is more like, and more +nearly allied?" + +"It is clear to everyone," he said, "that it is to the visible." + +"But what of the soul? Is it visible or invisible?" + +"It is not visible to men, Socrates," he replied. + +"But we speak of things which are visible, or not so, to the nature of +men; or to some other nature, think you?" + +"To that of men." + +"What, then, shall we say of the soul--that it is visible, or not +visible?" + +"Not visible." + +"Is it, then, invisible?" + +"Yes." + +"The soul, then, is more like the invisible than the body; and the body, +the visible?" + +"It must needs be so, Socrates." + +65. "And did we not, some time since, say this too, that the soul, when +it employs the body to examine any thing, either by means of the sight +or hearing, or any other sense (for to examine any thing by means of the +body is to do so by the senses), is then drawn by the body to things +that never continue the same, and wanders and is confused, and reels as +if intoxicated, through coming into contact with things of this kind?" + +"Certainly." + +"But when it examines anything by itself, does it approach that which is +pure, eternal, immortal, and unchangeable, and, as being allied to it, +continue constantly with it, so long as it subsists by itself, and has +the power, and does it cease from its wandering, and constantly continue +the same with respect to those things, through coming into contact with +things of this kind? And is this affection of the soul called wisdom?" + +"You speak," he said, "in every respect, well and truly, Socrates." + +"To which species of the two, then, both from what was before and now +said, does the soul appear to you to be more like and more nearly +allied?" + +66. "Every one, I think, would allow, Socrates," he replied, "even the +dullest person, from this method of reasoning, that the soul is in every +respect more like that which continues constantly the same than that +which does not so." + +"But what as to the body?" + +"It is more like the other." + +"Consider it also thus, that, when soul and body are together, nature +enjoins the latter to be subservient and obey, the former to rule and +exercise dominion. And, in this way, which of the two appears to you to +be like the divine, and which the mortal? Does it not appear to you to +be natural that the divine should rule and command, but the mortal obey +and be subservient?" + +"To me it does so." + +"Which, then, does the soul resemble?" + +"It is clear, Socrates, that the soul resembles the divine; but the +body, the mortal." + +"Consider, then, Cebes," said he, "whether, from all that has been said, +these conclusions follow, that the soul is most like that which is +divine, immortal, intelligent, uniform, indissoluble, and which always +continues in the same state; but that the body, on the other hand, is +most like that which is human, mortal, unintelligent, multiform, +dissoluble, and which never continues in the same state. Can we say any +thing against this, my dear Cebes, to show that it is not so?" + +"We can not." + +67. "What, then? Since these things are so, does it not appertain to the +body to be quickly dissolved, but to the soul, on the contrary, to be +altogether indissoluble or nearly so?" + +"How not?" + +"You perceive, however," he said, "that when a man dies, the visible +part of him, the body, which is exposed to sight, and which we call a +corpse, to which it appertains to be dissolved, to fall asunder and be +dispersed, does not immediately undergo any of these affections, but +remains for a considerable time, and especially so if any one should die +with his body in full vigor, and at a corresponding age;[31] for when +the body has collapsed and been embalmed, as those that are embalmed in +Egypt, it remains almost entire for an incredible length of time; and +some parts of the body, even though it does decay, such as the bones and +nerves, and every thing of that kind, are, nevertheless, as one may say, +immortal. Is it not so?" + +"Yes." + +68. "Can the soul, then, which is invisible, and which goes to another +place like itself, excellent, pure and invisible, and therefore truly +called the invisible world,[32] to the presence of a good and wise God +(whither, if God will, my soul also must shortly go)--can this soul of +ours, I ask, being such and of such a nature, when separated from the +body, be immediately dispersed and destroyed, as most men assert? Far +from it, my dear Cebes and Simmias. But the case is much rather thus: if +it is separated in a pure state, taking nothing of the body with it, as +not having willingly communicated with it in the present life, but +having shunned it, and gathered itself within itself, as constantly +studying this (but this is nothing else than to pursue philosophy +aright, and in reality to study how to die easily), would not this be to +study how to die?" + +"Most assuredly." + +"Does not the soul, then, when in this state, depart to that which +resembles itself, the invisible, the divine, immortal and wise? And on +its arrival there, is it not its lot to be happy, free from error, +ignorance, fears, wild passions, and all the other evils to which human +nature is subject; and, as is said of the initiated, does it not in +truth pass the rest of its time with the gods? Must we affirm that it is +so, Cebes, or otherwise?" + +"So, by Jupiter!" said Cebes. + +69. "But, I think, if it departs from the body polluted and impure, as +having constantly held communion with the body, and having served and +loved it, and been bewitched by it, through desires and pleasures, so as +to think that there is nothing real except what is corporeal, which one +can touch and see, and drink and eat, and employ for sensual purposes; +but what is dark and invisible to the eyes, which is intellectual and +apprehended by philosophy, having been accustomed to hate, fear, and +shun this, do you think that a soul thus affected can depart from the +body by itself, and uncontaminated?" + +"By no means whatever," he replied. + +"But I think it will be impressed with that which is corporeal, which +the intercourse and communion of the body, through constant association +and great attention, have made natural to it." + +"Certainly." + +"We must think, my dear Cebes, that this is ponderous and heavy, earthly +and visible, by possessing which such a soul is weighed down, and drawn +again into the visible world through dread of the invisible and of +Hades, wandering, as it is said, among monuments and tombs, about which, +indeed, certain shadowy phantoms of souls have been seen, being such +images as those souls produced which have not departed pure from the +body, but which partake of the visible; on which account, also, they are +visible." + +"That is probable, Socrates." + +70. "Probable indeed, Cebes; and not that these are the souls of the +good, but of the wicked, which are compelled to wander about such +places, paying the penalty of their former conduct, which was evil; and +they wander about so long until, through the desire of the corporeal +nature that accompanies them, they are again united to a body; and they +are united, as is probable, to animals having the same habits as those +they have given themselves up to during life." + +"But what do you say these are, Socrates?" + +"For instance, those who have given themselves up to gluttony, +wantonness and drinking, and have put no restraint on themselves, will +probably be clothed in the form of asses and brutes of that kind. Do you +not think so?" + +"You say what is very probable." + +"And that such as have set great value on injustice, tyranny and rapine, +will be clothed in the species of wolves, hawks and kites! Where else +can we say such souls go?" + +"Without doubt," said Cebes, "into such as these." + +"Is it not, then, evident," he continued, "as to the rest, whither each +will go, according to the resemblances of their several pursuits?" + +71. "It is evident," he replied. "How not?" + +"Of these, then," he said, "are not they the most happy, and do they not +go to the best place, who have practiced that social and civilized +virtue which they call temperance and justice, and which is produced +from habit and exercise, without philosophy and reflection?" + +"In what respect are these the most happy?" + +"Because it is probable that these should again migrate into a +corresponding civilized and peaceable kind of animals, such as bees +perhaps, or wasps, or ants, or even into the same human species again, +and from these become moderate men." + +"It is probable." + +"But it is not lawful for any one who has not studied philosophy, and +departed this life perfectly pure, to pass into the rank of gods, but +only for the true lover of wisdom. And on this account, my friends +Simmias and Cebes, those who philosophize rightly, abstain from all +bodily desires, and persevere in doing so, and do not give themselves up +to them, not fearing the loss of property and poverty, as the generality +of men and the lovers of wealth; nor, again, dreading disgrace and +ignominy, like those who are lovers of power and honor, do they then +abstain from them." + +"For it would not become them to do so, Socrates," says Cebes. + +72. "It would not, by Jupiter!" he rejoined. "Wherefore, Cebes, they who +care at all for their soul, and do not spend their lives in the culture +of their bodies, despising all these, proceed not in the same way with +them, as being ignorant whither they are going, but, being convinced +that they ought not to act contrary to philosophy, but in accordance +with the freedom and purification she affords, they give themselves up +to her direction, following her wherever she leads." + +"How, Socrates?" + +"I will tell you," he replied. "The lovers of wisdom know that +philosophy, receiving their soul plainly bound and glued to the body, +and compelled to view things through this, as through a prison, and not +directly by herself, and sunk in utter ignorance, and perceiving, too, +the strength of the prison, that it arises from desire, so that he who +is bound as much as possible assists in binding himself. 73. I say, +then, the lovers of wisdom know that philosophy, receiving their soul in +this state, gently exhorts it, and endeavors to free it, by showing that +the view of things by means of the eyes is full of deception, as also is +that through the ears and the other senses; persuading an abandonment +of these so far as it is not absolutely necessary to use them, and +advising the soul to be collected and concentrated within itself, and to +believe nothing else than herself, with respect to what she herself +understands of things that have a real subsistence; and to consider +nothing true which she views through the medium of others, and which +differ under different aspects;[32] for that a thing of this kind is +sensible and visible, but that what she herself perceives is +intelligible and invisible. The soul of the true philosopher, therefore, +thinking that she ought not to oppose this deliverance, accordingly +abstains as much as possible from pleasures and desires, griefs and +fears, considering that when any one is exceedingly delighted or +alarmed, grieved or influenced by desire, he does not merely suffer such +evil from these things as one might suppose, such as either being sick +or wasting his property through indulging his desires; but that which is +the greatest evil, and the worst of all, this he suffers, and is not +conscious of it." + +"But what is this evil, Socrates?" said Cebes. + +74. "That the soul of every man is compelled to be either vehemently +delighted or grieved about some particular thing, and, at the same time, +to consider that the thing about which it is thus strongly affected is +most real and most true, though it is not so. But these are chiefly +visible objects, are they not?" + +"Certainly." + +"In this state of affection, then, is not the soul especially shackled +by the body?" + +"How so?" + +"Because each pleasure and pain, having a nail, as it were, nails the +soul to the body, and fastens it to it, and causes it to become +corporeal, deeming those things to be true whatever the body asserts to +be so. For, in consequence of its forming the same opinions with the +body, and delighting in the same things, it is compelled, I think, to +possess similar manners, and to be similarly nourished; so that it can +never pass into Hades in a pure state, but must ever depart polluted by +the body, and so quickly falls again into another body, and grows up as +if it were sown, and consequently is deprived of all association with +that which is divine, and pure, and uniform." + +"You speak most truly, Socrates," said Cebes. + +75. "For these reasons, therefore, Cebes, those who are truly lovers of +wisdom are moderate and resolute, and not for the reasons that most +people say. Do you think as they do?" + +"Assuredly not." + +"No, truly. But the soul of a philosopher would reason thus, and would +not think that philosophy ought to set it free, and that when it is +freed it should give itself up again to pleasures and pains, to bind it +down again, and make her work void, weaving a kind of Penelope's web the +reverse way. On the contrary, effecting a calm of the passions, and +following the guidance of reason, and being always intent on this, +contemplating that which is true and divine, and not subject to opinion; +and being nourished by it, it thinks that it ought to live in this +manner as long as it does live, and that when it dies it shall go to a +kindred essence, and one like itself, and shall be free from human +evils. From such a regimen as this the soul has no occasion to fear, +Simmias and Cebes, while it strictly attends to these things, lest, +being torn to pieces at its departure from the body, it should be blown +about and dissipated by the winds, and no longer have an existence +anywhere." + +76. When Socrates had thus spoken, a long silence ensued; and Socrates +himself was pondering upon what had been said, as he appeared, and so +did most of us; but Cebes and Simmias were conversing a little while +with each other. At length Socrates, perceiving them, said, "What think +you of what has been said? Does it appear to you to have been proved +sufficiently? for many doubts and objections still remain if any one +will examine them thoroughly. If, then, you are considering some other +subject, I have nothing to say; but if you are doubting about this, do +not hesitate both yourselves to speak and express your opinion, if it +appears to you in any respect that it might have been argued better, and +to call me in again to your assistance, if you think you can be at all +benefited by my help." + +Upon this Simmias said, "Indeed, Socrates, I will tell you the truth: +for some time each of us, being in doubt, has been urging and exhorting +the other to question you, from a desire to hear our doubts solved; but +we were afraid of giving you trouble, lest it should be disagreeable to +you in your present circumstances." + +77. But he, upon hearing this, gently smiled, and said, "Bless me, +Simmias; with difficulty, indeed, could I persuade other men that I do +not consider my present condition a calamity, since I am not able to +persuade even you; but you are afraid lest I should be more morose now +than during the former part of my life. And, as it seems, I appear to +you to be inferior to swans with respect to divination, who, when they +perceive that they must needs die, though they have been used to sing +before, sing then more than ever, rejoicing that they are about to +depart to that deity whose servants they are. But men, through their +own fear of death, belie the swans too, and say that they, lamenting +their death, sing their last song through grief; and they do not +consider that no bird sings when it is hungry or cold, or is afflicted +with any other pain, not even the nightingale, or swallow, or the +hoopoes, which, they say, sing lamenting through grief. But neither do +these birds appear to me to sing through sorrow, nor yet do swans; but, +in my opinion, belonging to Apollo, they are prophetic, and, foreseeing +the blessings of Hades, they sing and rejoice on that day more +excellently than at any preceding time. 78. But I, too, consider myself +to be a fellow-servant of the swans, and sacred to the same god; and +that I have received the power of divination from our common master no +less than they, and that I do not depart from this life with less +spirits than they. On this account, therefore, it is right that you +should both speak and ask whatever you please, so long as the Athenian +Eleven permit." + +"You say well," said Simmias, "and both I will tell you what are my +doubts, and he, in turn, how far he does not assent to what has been +said. For it appears to me, Socrates, probably as it does to you with +respect to these matters, that to know them clearly in the present life +is either impossible or very difficult: on the other hand, however, not +to test what has been said of them in every possible way, so as not to +desist until, on examining them in every point of view, one has +exhausted every effort, is the part of a very weak man. For we ought, +with respect to these things, either to learn from others how they stand +or to discover them for one's self; or, if both these are impossible, +then, taking the best of human reasonings and that which is the most +difficult to be confuted, and embarking on this, as one who risks +himself on a raft, so to sail through life, unless one could be carried +more safely, and with less risk, on a surer conveyance, or some divine +reason. 79. I, therefore, shall not now be ashamed to question you, +since you bid me do so, nor shall I blame myself hereafter for not +having now told you what I think; for to me, Socrates, when I consider +the matter, both with myself and with Cebes, what has been said does not +appear to have been sufficiently proved." + +Then said Socrates, "Perhaps, my friend, you have the truth on your +side; but tell me in what respect it was not sufficiently proved." + +"In this," he answered, "because any one might use the same argument +with respect to harmony, and a lyre, and its chords, that harmony is +something invisible and incorporeal, very beautiful and divine, in a +well-modulated lyre; but the lyre and its chords are bodies, and of +corporeal form, compounded and earthly, and akin to that which is +mortal. When any one, then, has either broken the lyre, or cut or burst +the chords, he might maintain from the same reasoning as yours that it +is necessary the harmony should still exist and not be destroyed; for +there could be no possibility that the lyre should subsist any longer +when the chords are burst; and that the chords, which are of a mortal +nature, should subsist, but that the harmony, which is of the same +nature and akin to that which is divine and immortal, should become +extinct, and perish before that which is mortal; but he might say that +the harmony must needs subsist somewhere, and that the wood and chords +must decay before it can undergo any change. 80. For I think, Socrates, +that you yourself have arrived at this conclusion, that we consider the +soul to be pretty much of this kind--namely, that our body being +compacted and held together by heat and cold, dryness and moisture, and +other such qualities, our soul is the fusion and harmony of these, when +they are well and duly combined with each other. If, then, the soul is a +kind of harmony, it is evident that when our bodies are unduly relaxed +or strained, through diseases and other maladies, the soul must, of +necessity, immediately perish, although it is most divine, just as other +harmonies which subsist in sounds or in the various works of artisans; +but that the remains of the body of each person last for a long time, +till they are either burned or decayed. Consider, then, what we shall +say to this reasoning, if any one should maintain that the soul, being a +fusion of the several qualities in the body, perishes first in that +which is called death." + +81. Socrates, therefore, looking steadfastly at us, as he was generally +accustomed to do, and smiling, said, "Simmias indeed speaks justly. If, +then, any one of you is more prompt than I am, why does he not answer, +for he seems to have handled my argument not badly? It appears to me, +however, that before we make our reply we should first hear from Cebes, +what he, too, objects to our argument, in order that, some time +intervening, we may consider what we shall say, and then when we have +heard them, we may give up to them, if they appear to speak agreeably to +truth; or, if not, we may then uphold our own argument. Come, then, +Cebes," he continued, "say what it is that disturbs you, so as to cause +your unbelief." + +"I will tell you," said Cebes; "the argument seems to me to rest where +it was, and to be liable to the same objection that we mentioned before. +For, that our soul existed even before It came into this present form, I +do not deny has been very elegantly, and, if it is not too much to say +so, very fully, demonstrated; but that it still exists anywhere when we +are dead does not appear to me to have been clearly proved; nor do I +give in to the objection of Simmias, that the soul is not stronger and +more durable than the body, for it appears to me to excel very far all +things of this kind. 82. 'Why, then,' reason might say, 'do you still +disbelieve? for, since you see that when a man dies his weaker part +still exists, does it not appear to you to be necessary that the more +durable part should still be preserved during this period?' Consider, +then, whether I say any thing to the purpose in reply to this. For I, +too, as well as Simmias, as it seems, stand in need of an illustration; +for the argument appears to me to have been put thus, as if any one +should advance this argument about an aged weaver who had died, that the +man has not yet perished, but perhaps still exists somewhere; and, as a +proof, should exhibit the garment which he wore and had woven himself, +that it is entire and has not perished; and if any one should disbelieve +him, he would ask, which of the two is the more durable, the species of +a man or of a garment, that is constantly in use and being worn; then, +should any one answer that the species of man is much more durable, he +would think it demonstrated that, beyond all question, the man is +preserved, since that which is less durable has not perished. 83. But I +do not think, Simmias, that this is the case, and do you consider what I +say, for every one must think that he who argues thus argues, foolishly. +For this weaver, having worn and woven many such garments, perished +after almost all of them, but before the last, I suppose; and yet it +does not on this account follow any the more that a man is inferior to +or weaker than a garment. And I think, the soul might admit this same +illustration with respect to the body, and he who should say the same +things concerning them would appear to me to speak correctly, that the +soul is more durable, but the body weaker and less durable; for he would +say that each soul wears out many bodies, especially if it lives many +years; for if the body wastes and is dissolved while the man still +lives, but the soul continually weaves anew what is worn out, it must +necessarily follow that when the soul is dissolved it must then have on +its last garment, and perish before this alone; but when the soul has +perished the body would show the weakness of its nature, and quickly rot +and vanish. 84. So that it is not by any means right to place implicit +reliance on this argument, and to believe that when we die our soul +still exists somewhere. For, if any one should concede to him who admits +even more than you do, and should grant to him that not only did our +soul exist before we were born, but that even when we die nothing +hinders the souls of some of us from still existing, and continuing to +exist hereafter, and from being often born, and dying again--for so +strong is it by nature, that it can hold out against repeated births--if +he granted this, he would not yet concede that it does not exhaust +itself in its many births, and at length perish altogether in some one +of the deaths. But he would say that no one knows this death and +dissolution of the body, which brings destruction to the soul; for it is +impossible for any one of us to perceive it. If, however, this be the +case, it follows that every one who is confident at the approach of +death is foolishly confident, unless he is able to prove that the soul +is absolutely immortal and imperishable; otherwise it necessarily +follows that he who is about to die must be alarmed for his soul, lest +in its present disunion from the body it should entirely perish." + +85. Upon this, all of us who had heard them speaking were disagreeably +affected, as we afterward mentioned to each other; because, after we had +been fully persuaded by the former arguments, they seemed to disturb us +anew, and to cast us into a distrust, not only of the arguments already +adduced, but of such as might afterward be urged, for fear lest we +should not be fit judges of anything, or lest the things themselves +should be incredible. + +_Echec._ By the gods! Phædo, I can readily excuse you; for, while I am +now hearing you, it occurs to me to ask myself some such question as +this: What arguments can we any longer believe? since the argument which +Socrates advanced, and which was exceedingly credible, has now fallen +into discredit. For this argument, that our soul is a kind of harmony, +produces a wonderful impression on me, both now and always, and in being +mentioned, it has reminded me, as it were, that I, too, was formerly of +the same opinion; so that I stand in need again, as if from the very +beginning, of some other argument which may persuade me that the soul of +one who dies does not die with the body. Tell me, therefore, by Jupiter! +how Socrates followed up the argument; and whether he, too, as you +confess was the case with yourselves, seemed disconcerted at all, or +not, but calmly maintained his position; and maintained it sufficiently +or defectively. Relate everything to me as accurately as you can. + +86. _Phæd._ Indeed, Echecrates, though I have often admired Socrates, I +was never more delighted than at being with him on that occasion. That +he should be able to say something is perhaps not at all surprising; but +I especially admired this in him--first of all, that he listened to the +argument of the young men so sweetly, affably, and approvingly; in the +next place, that he so quickly perceived how we were affected by their +arguments; and, lastly, that he cured us so well and recalled us, when +we were put to flight, as it were, and vanquished, and encouraged us to +accompany him, and consider the argument with him. + +_Echec._ How was that? + +_Phæd._ I will tell you: I happened to be sitting at his right hand, +near the bed, upon a low seat, but he himself sat much higher than I. +Stroking my head, then, and laying hold of the hair that hung on my +neck--for he used, often, to play with my hairs--"To-morrow," he said, +"perhaps, Phædo, you will cut off these beautiful locks?" + +"It seems likely, Socrates," said I. + +87. "Not if you are persuaded by me." + +"Why so?" I asked. + +"To-day," he replied, "both I ought to cut off mine and you yours, if +our argument must die, and we are unable to revive it. And I, if I were +you, and the arguments were to escape me, would take an oath, as the +Argives do, not to suffer my hair to grow until I had renewed the +contest, and vanquished the arguments of Simmias and Cebes." + +"But," I said, "even Hercules himself is said not to have been a match +for two." + +"Call upon me, then," he said, "as your Iolaus, while it is yet day." + +"I do call on you, then," I said, "not as Hercules upon Iolaus, but as +Iolaus upon Hercules." + +"It will make no difference," he replied. "But, first of all, we must +beware lest we meet with some mischance." + +"What?" I asked. + +"That we do not become," he answered, "haters of reasoning, as some +become haters of men; for no greater evil can happen to any one than to +hate reasoning. 88. But hatred of reasoning and hatred of mankind both +spring from the same source. For hatred of mankind is produced in us +from having placed too great reliance on some one without sufficient +knowledge of him, and from having considered him to be a man altogether +true, sincere, and faithful, and then, after a little while, finding him +depraved and unfaithful, and after him another. And when a man has +often experienced this, and especially from those whom he considered his +most intimate and best friends, at length, having frequently stumbled, +he hates all men, and thinks that there is no soundness at all in any of +them. Have you not perceived that this happens so?" + +"Certainly," I replied. + +"Is it not a shame?" he said "And is it not evident that such a one +attempts to deal with men without sufficient knowledge of human affairs? +For if he had dealt with them with competent knowledge, as the case +really is, so he would have considered that the good and the bad are +each very few in number, and that those between both are most numerous." + +89. "How say you?" I asked. + +"In the same manner," he replied, "as with things very little and very +large Do you think that any thing is more rare than to find a very large +on a very little man, or dog, or any thing else? and, again, swift or +slow, beautiful or ugly, white or black? Do you not perceive that of all +such things the extremes are rare and few, but that the intermediate are +abundant and numerous?" + +"Certainly," I replied. + +"Do you not think, then," he continued, "that if a contest in wickedness +were proposed, even here very few would be found pre-eminent?" + +"It is probable," I said. + +"It is so," he said, "but in this respect reasonings do not resemble +men, for I was just now following you as my leader, but in this they do +resemble them, when any one believes in any argument as true without +being skilled in the art of reasoning, and then shortly afterward it +appears to him to be false, at one time being so and at another time +not, and so on with one after another,[34] and especially they who +devote themselves to controversial arguments, you are aware, at length +think they have become very wise and have alone discovered that there is +nothing sound and stable either in things or reasonings but that all +things that exist, as is the case with the Euripus, are in a constant +state of flux and reflux, and never continue in any one condition for +any length of time." + +"You speak perfectly true," I said. + +90. "Would it not, then, Phædo" he said "be a sad thing if, when there +is a true and sound reasoning, and such as one can understand, one +should then, through lighting upon such arguments as appear to be at one +time true and at another false, not blame one's self and one's own want +of skill, but at length, through grief, should anxiously transfer the +blame from one's self to the arguments, and thereupon pass the rest of +one's life in hating and reviling arguments and so be depraved of the +truth and knowledge of things that exist?" + +"By Jupiter!" I said, "it would be sad, indeed." + +"In the first place, then," he said, "let us beware of this, and let us +not admit into our souls the notion that there appears to be nothing +sound in reasoning, but much rather that we are not yet in a sound +condition, and that we ought vigorously and strenuously to endeavor to +become sound, you and the others, on account of your whole future life, +but I, on account of my death, since I am in danger, at the present +time, of not behaving as becomes a philosopher with respect to this very +subject, but as a wrangler, like those who are utterly uninformed 91. +For they, when they dispute about any thing, care nothing at all for the +subject about which the discussion is, but are anxious about this, that +what they have themselves advanced shall appear true to the persons +present. And I seem to myself on the present occasion to differ from +them only in this respect, for I shall not be anxious to make what I say +appear true to those who are present, except that may happen by the way, +but that it may appear certainly to be so to myself. For I thus reason, +my dear friend, and observe how interestedly. If what I say be true, it +is well to be persuaded of it, but if nothing remains to one that is +dead, I shall, at least, during the interval before death be less +disagreeable to those present by my lamentations. But this ignorance of +mine will not continue long, for that would be bad, but will shortly be +put an end to. Thus prepared, then, Simmias and Cebes," he continued, "I +now proceed to my argument. Do you, however, if you will be persuaded by +me, pay little attention to Socrates, but much more to the truth, and if +I appear to you to say any thing true, assent to it, but if not, oppose +me with all your might, taking good care that in my zeal I do not +deceive both myself and you, and, like a bee, depart leaving my sting +behind." + +92. "But let us proceed," he said "First of all, remind me of what you +said, if I should appear to have forgotten it For Simmias, as I think, +is in doubt, and fears lest the soul, though more divine and beautiful +than the body, should perish before it, as being a species of harmony. +But Cebes appeared to me to grant me this, that the soul is more durable +than the body, but he argued that it is uncertain to every one, whether +when the soul has worn out many bodies and that repeatedly, it does +not, on leaving the last body, itself also perish, so that this very +thing is death, the destruction of the soul, since the body never ceases +decaying Are not these the things, Simmias and Cebes, which we have to +inquire into?" + +They both agreed that they were. + +"Whether, then," he continued "do you reject all our former arguments, +or some of them only, and not others?" + +"Some we do," they replied, "and others not." + +"What, then," he proceeded, "do you say about that argument in which we +asserted that knowledge is reminiscence, and that, this being the case, +our soul must necessarily have existed somewhere before it was inclosed +in the body?" + +93. "I, indeed," replied Cebes "was both then wonderfully persuaded by +it, and now persist in it, as in no other argument." + +"And I, too," said Simmias, "am of the same mind, and should very much +wonder if I should ever think otherwise on that point." + +"Then," Socrates said, "you must needs think otherwise, my Theban +friend, if this opinion holds good, that harmony is something +compounded, and that the soul is a kind of harmony that results from the +parts compacted together in the body. For surely you will not allow +yourself to say that harmony was composed prior to the things from which +it required to be composed Would you allow this?" + +"By no means, Socrates" he replied. + +"Do you perceive, then," he said, "that this result from what you say, +when you assert that the soul existed before it came into a human form +and body, but that it was composed from things that did not yet exist? +For harmony is not such as that to which you compare it, but first the +lyre, and the chords, and the sounds yet unharmonized, exist, and, last +of all, harmony is produced, and first perishes. How, then, will this +argument accord with that?" + +"Not at all," said Simmias. + +94. "And yet," he said, "if in any argument, there ought to be an +accordance in one respecting harmony." + +"There ought," said Simmias. + +"This of yours, however," he said, "is not in accordance. Consider, +then, which of these two statements do you prefer--that knowledge is +reminiscence, or the soul harmony?" + +"The former by far, Socrates," he replied; "for the latter occurred to +me without demonstration, through a certain probability and speciousness +whence most men derive their opinions. But I am well aware that +arguments which draw their demonstrations from probabilities are idle; +and, unless one is on one's guard against them, they are very deceptive, +both in geometry and all other subjects. But the argument respecting +reminiscence and knowledge may be said to have been demonstrated by a +satisfactory hypothesis. For in this way it was said that our soul +existed before it came into the body, because the essence that bears the +appellation of 'that which is' belongs to it. But of this, as I persuade +myself, I am fully and rightly convinced. It is therefore necessary, as +it seems, that I should neither allow myself nor any one else to +maintain that the soul is harmony." + +95. "But what, Simmias," said he, "if you consider it thus? Does it +appear to you to appertain to harmony, or to any other composition, to +subsist in any other way than the very things do of which it is +composed?" + +"By no means." + +"And indeed, as I think, neither to do any thing, nor suffer any thing +else, besides what they do or suffer." + +He agreed. + +"It does not, therefore, appertain to harmony to take the lead of the +things of which it is composed, but to follow them." + +He assented. + +"It is, then, far from being the case that harmony is moved or sends +forth sounds contrariwise, or is in any other respect opposed to its +parts?" + +"Far, indeed," he said. + +"What, then? Is not every harmony naturally harmony, so far as it has +been made to accord?" + +"I do not understand you," he replied. + +"Whether," he said, "if it should be in a greater degree and more fully +made to accord, supposing that were possible, would the harmony be +greater and more full; but if in a less degree and less fully, then +would it be inferior and less full?" + +"Certainly." + +"Is this, then, the case with the soul that, even in the smallest +extent, one soul is more fully and in a greater degree, or less fully +and in a less degree, this very thing, a soul, than another?" + +"In no respect whatever," he replied. + +96. "Well, then," he said, "by Jupiter! is one soul said to possess +intelligence and virtue, and to be good, and another folly and vice, and +to be bad? and is this said with truth?" + +"With truth, certainly." + +"Of those, then, who maintain that the soul is harmony, what will any +one say that these things are in the soul, virtue and vice? Will he call +them another kind of harmony and discord, and say that the one, the good +soul, is harmonized, and, being harmony, contains within itself another +harmony, but that the other is discordant, and does not contain within +itself another harmony?" + +"I am unable to say," replied Simmias; "but it is clear that he who +maintains that opinion would say something of the kind." + +"But it has been already granted," said he, "that one soul is not more +or less a soul than another; and this is an admission that one harmony +is not to a greater degree or more fully, or to a less degree or less +fully, a harmony, than another; is it not so?" + +"Certainly." + +"And that that which is neither more or less harmony is neither more nor +less harmonized: is it so?" + +"It is." + +"But does that which is neither more or less harmonized partake of more +or less harmony, or an equal amount?" + +"An equal amount." + +97. "A soul, therefore, since it is not more or less this very thing, a +soul, than another, is not more or less harmonized?" + +"Even so." + +"Such, then, being its condition, it can not partake of a greater degree +of discord or harmony?" + +"Certainly not." + +"And, again, such being its condition, can one soul partake of a greater +degree of vice or virtue than another, if vice be discord, and virtue +harmony?" + +"It can not." + +"Or rather, surely, Simmias, according to right reason, no soul will +partake of vice, if it is harmony; for doubtless harmony, which is +perfectly such, can never partake of discord?" + +"Certainly not." + +"Neither, therefore, can a soul which is perfectly a soul partake of +vice." + +"How can it, from what has been already said?" + +"From this reasoning, then, all souls of all animals will be equally +good, if, at least, they are by nature equally this very thing, souls?" + +"It appears so to me, Socrates," he said. + +"And does it appear to you," he said, "to have been thus rightly argued, +and that the argument would lead to this result, if the hypothesis were +correct, that the soul is harmony?" + +98. "On no account whatever," he replied. + +"But what," said he, "of all the things that are in man? Is there any +thing else that you say bears rule except the soul, especially if it be +wise?" + +"I should say not." + +"Whether by yielding to the passions in the body, or by opposing them? +My meaning is this: for instance, when heat and thirst are present, by +drawing it the contrary way, so as to hinder it from drinking; and when +hunger is present, by hindering it from eating; and in ten thousand +other instances we see the soul opposing the desires of the body. Do we +not?" + +"Certainly." + +"But have we not before allowed that if the soul were harmony, it would +never utter a sound contrary to the tension, relaxation, vibration, or +any other affection to which its component parts are subject, but would +follow, and never govern them?" + +"We did allow it," he replied, "for how could we do otherwise?" + +"What, then? Does not the soul now appear to act quite the contrary, +ruling over all the parts from which any one might say it subsists, and +resisting almost all of them through the whole of life, and exercising +dominion over them in all manner of ways; punishing some more severely +even with pain, both by gymnastics and medicine, and others more mildly; +partly threatening, and partly admonishing the desires, angers and +fears, as if, being itself of a different nature, it were conversing +with something quite different? 99. Just as Homer has done in the +Odyssey,[35] where he speaks of Ulysses--'Having struck his breast, he +chid his heart in the following words: Bear up, my heart; ere this thou +hast borne far worse.' Do you think that he composed this in the belief +that the soul was harmony, and capable of being led by the passions of +the body, and not rather that it was able to lead and govern them, as +being something much more divine than to be compared with harmony?" + +"By Jupiter! Socrates, it appears so to me." + +"Therefore, my excellent friend, it is on no account correct for us to +say that the soul is a kind of harmony; for, as it appears, we should +neither agree with Homer, that divine poet, nor with ourselves." + +"Such is the case," he replied. + +"Be it so, then," said Socrates, "we have already, as it seems, +sufficiently appeased this Theban harmony. But how, Cebes, and by what +arguments, shall we appease this Cadmus?"[36] + +100. "You appear to me," replied Cebes, "to be likely to find out; for +you have made out this argument against harmony wonderfully beyond my +expectation. For when Simmias was saying what his doubts were, I +wondered very much whether any one would be able to answer his +reasoning. It, therefore, appeared to me unaccountable that he did not +withstand the very first onset of your argument. I should not, +therefore, be surprised if the arguments of Cadmus met with the same +fate." + +"My good friend," said Socrates, "do not speak so boastfully, lest some +envious power should overthrow the argument that is about to be urged. +These things, however, will be cared for by the deity; but let us, +meeting hand to hand, in the manner of Homer, try whether you say any +thing to the purpose. This, then, is the sum of what you inquire you +require it to be proved that our soul is imperishable and immortal; if a +philosopher that is about to die, full of confidence and hope that after +death he shall be far happier than if he had died after leading a +different kind of life, shall not entertain this confidence foolishly +and vainly. 101. But to show that the soul is something strong and +divine, and that it existed before we men were born, you say not at all +hinders, but that all these things may evince, not its immortality, but +that the soul is durable, and existed an immense space of time before, +and knew and did many things. But that, for all this, it was not at all +the more immortal, but that its very entrance into the body of a man was +the beginning of its destruction, as if it were a disease; so that it +passes through this life in wretchedness, and at last perishes in that +which is called death. But you say that it is of no consequence whether +it comes into a body once or often, with respect to our occasion of +fear; for it is right he should be afraid, unless he is foolish, who +does not know, and can not give a reason to prove, that the soul is +immortal. Such, I think, Cebes, is the sum of what you say; and I +purposely repeat it often, that nothing may escape us, and, if you +please, you may add to or take from it." + +Cebes replied, "I do not wish at present either to take from or add to +it; that is what I mean." + +102. Socrates, then having paused for some time, and considered +something within himself, said, "You inquire into no easy matter, Cebes; +for it is absolutely necessary to discuss the whole question of +generation and corruption. If you please, then, I will relate to you +what happened to me with reference to them; and afterward, if any thing +that I shall say shall appear to you useful toward producing conviction +on the subject you are now treating of, make use of it." + +"I do indeed wish it," replied Cebes. + +"Hear my relation, then. When I was a young man, Cebes, I was +wonderfully desirous of that wisdom which they call a history of nature; +for it appeared to me to be a very sublime thing to know the causes of +every thing--why each thing is generated, why it perishes, and why it +exists. And I often tossed myself upward and downward, considering first +such things as these, whether when heat and cold have undergone a +certain corruption, as some say, then animals are formed; and whether +the blood is that by means of which we think, or air, or fire, or none +of these, but that it is the brain that produces the perceptions of +hearing, seeing, and smelling; and that from these come memory and +opinion; and from memory and opinion, when in a state of rest, in the +same way knowledge is produced. 103. And, again, considering the +corruptions of these, and the affections incidental to the heavens and +the earth, I at length appeared to myself so unskillful in these +speculations that nothing could be more so. But I will give you a +sufficient proof of this; for I then became, by these very speculations, +so very blind with respect to things which I knew clearly before, as it +appeared to myself and others, that I unlearned even the things which I +thought I knew before, both on many other subjects and also this, why a +man grows. For, before, I thought this was evident to every one--that it +proceeds from eating and drinking; for that, when, from the food, flesh +is added to flesh, bone to bone, and so on in the same proportion, what +is proper to them is added to the several other parts, then the bulk +which was small becomes afterward large, and thus that a little man +becomes a big one. Such was my opinion at that time. Does it appear to +you correct?" + +"To me it does," said Cebes. + +104. "Consider this further. I thought that I had formed a right +opinion, when, on seeing a tall man standing by a short one, I judged +that he was taller by the head, and in like manner, one horse than +another; and, still more clearly than this, ten appeared to me to be +more than eight by two being added to them, and that two cubits are +greater than one cubit by exceeding it a half." + +"But now," said Cebes, "what think you of these matters?" + +"By Jupiter!" said he, "I am far from thinking that I know the cause of +these, for that I can not even persuade myself of this: when a person +has added one to one, whether the one to which the addition has been +made has become two, or whether that which has been added, and that to +which the addition has been made, have become two by the addition of the +one to the other. For I wonder if, when each of these was separate from +the other, each was one, and they were not yet two; but when they have +approached nearer each other this should be the cause of their becoming +two--namely, the union by which they have been placed nearer one +another. 105. Nor yet, if any person should divide one, am I able to +persuade myself that this, their division, is the cause of its becoming +two. For this cause is the contrary to the former one of their becoming +two; for then it was because they were brought nearer to each other, and +the one was added to the other; but now it is because one is removed and +separated from the other. Nor do I yet persuade myself that I know why +one is one, nor, in a word, why any thing else is produced, or perishes, +or exists, according to this method of proceeding; but I mix up another +method of my own at random, for this I can on no account give in to." + +"But, having once heard a person reading from a book, written, as he +said, by Anaxagoras, and which said that it is intelligence that sets in +order and is the cause of all things, I was delighted with this cause, +and it appeared to me in a manner to be well that intelligence should be +the cause of all things, and I considered with myself, if this is so, +that the regulating intelligence orders all things, and disposes each in +such way as will be best for it. 106. If any one, then, should desire to +discover the cause of every thing, in what way it is produced, or +perishes, or exists, he must discover this respecting it--in what way it +is best for it either to exist, or to suffer, or do any thing else. From +this mode of reasoning, then, it is proper that a man should consider +nothing else, both with respect to himself and others, than what is most +excellent and best; and it necessarily follows that this same person +must also know that which is worst, for that the knowledge of both of +them is the same. Thus reasoning with myself, I was delighted to think I +had found in Anaxagoras a preceptor who would instruct me in the causes +of things, agreeably to my own mind, and that he would inform me, first, +whether the earth is flat or round, and, when he had informed me, +would, moreover, explain the cause and necessity of its being so, +arguing on the principle of the better, and showing that it is better +for it to be such as it is; and if he should say that it is in the +middle, that he would, moreover, explain how it is better for it to be +in the middle; and if he should make all this clear to me, I was +prepared no longer to require any other species of cause. 107. I was in +like manner prepared to inquire respecting the sun and moon and the +other stars, with respect to their velocities in reference to each +other, and their revolutions and other conditions, in what way it is +better for both to act and be affected as it does and is. For I never +thought that after he had said that these things were set in order by +intelligence, he would introduce any other cause for them than that it +is best for them to be as they are. Hence, I thought, that in assigning +the cause to each of them, and to all in common, he would explain that +which is best for each, and the common good of all. And I would not have +given up my hopes for a good deal; but, having taken up his books with +great eagerness, I read through them as quickly as I could, that I might +as soon as possible know the best and the worst." + +108. "From this wonderful hope, however, my friend, I was speedily +thrown down, when, as I advance and read over his works, I meet with a +man who makes no use of intelligence, nor assigns any causes for the +ordering of all things, but makes the causes to consist of air, ether, +and water, and many other things equally absurd. And he appeared to me +to be very like one who should say that whatever Socrates does he does +by intelligence, and then, attempting to describe the causes of each +particular action, should say, first of all, that for this reason I am +now sitting here, because my body is composed of bones and sinews and +that the bones are hard, and have joints separate from each other, but +that the sinews, being capable of tension and contraction, cover the +bones, together with the flesh and skin which contain them. The bones, +therefore, being suspended in their sockets, the nerves, relaxing and +tightening, enable me to bend my limbs as I now do, and from this cause +I sit here bent up. 109. And if, again, he should assign other similar +causes for my conversing with you, assigning as causes voice, and air, +and hearing, and ten thousand other things of the kind, omitting to +mention the real causes, that since it appeared better to the Athenians +to condemn me, I therefore thought it better to sit here, and more just +to remain and submit to the punishment which they have ordered; for, by +the dog! I think these sinews and bones would have been long ago either +in Megara or Boeotia, borne thither by an opinion of that which is best, +if I had not thought it more just and honorable to submit to whatever +sentence the city might order than to flee and run stealthily away. But +to call such things causes is too absurd. But if any one should say that +without possessing such things as bones and sinews, and whatever else I +have, I could not do what I pleased, he would speak the truth; but to +say that I do as I do through them, and that I act thus by intelligence, +and not from the choice of what is best, would be a great and extreme +disregard of reason. 110. For this would be not to be able to +distinguish that the real cause is one thing, and that another, without +which a cause could not be a cause; which, indeed, the generality of men +appear to me to do, fumbling, as it were, in the dark, and making use of +strange names, so as to denominate them as the very cause. Wherefore one +encompassing the earth with a vortex from heaven makes the earth remain +fixed; but another, as if it were a broad trough, rests it upon the air +as its base; but the power by which these things are now so disposed +that they may be placed in the best manner possible, this they neither +inquire into, nor do they think that it requires any superhuman +strength; but they think they will some time or other find out an Atlas +stronger and more immortal than this, and more capable of containing all +things; and in reality, the good, and that which ought to hold them +together and contain them, they take no account of at all. I, then, +should most gladly have become the disciple of any one who would teach +me of such a cause, in what way it is. But when I was disappointed of +this, and was neither able to discover it myself, nor to learn it from +another, do you wish, Cebes, that I should show you in what way I set +out upon a second voyage in search of the cause?" + +111. "I wish it exceedingly," he replied. + +"It appeared to me, then," said he, "after this, when I was wearied with +considering things that exist, that I ought to beware lest I should +suffer in the same way as they do who look at and examine an eclipse of +the sun, for some lose the sight of their eyes, unless they behold its +image in water, or some similar medium. And I was affected with a +similar feeling, and was afraid lest I should be utterly blinded in my +soul through beholding things with the eyes, and endeavoring to grasp +them by means of the several senses. It seemed to me, therefore, that I +ought to have recourse to reasons, and to consider in them the truth of +things. Perhaps, however, this similitude of mine may in some respect be +incorrect; for I do not altogether admit that he who considers things in +their reasons considers them in their images, more than he does who +views them in their effects. However, I proceeded thus, and on each +occasion laying down the reason, which I deem to be the strongest, +whatever things appear to me to accord with this I regard as true, both +with respect to the cause and every thing else; but such as do not +accord I regard as not true. 112. But I wish to explain my meaning to +you in a clearer manner; for I think that you do not yet understand me." + +"No, by Jupiter!" said Cebes, "not well." + +"However," continued he, "I am now saying nothing new, but what I have +always at other times, and in a former part of this discussion, never +ceased to say. I proceed, then, to attempt to explain to you that +species of cause which I have busied myself about, and return again to +those well-known subjects, and set out from them, laying down as an +hypothesis, that there is a certain abstract beauty, and goodness, and +magnitude, and so of all other things; which if you grant me, and allow +that they do exist, I hope that I shall be able from these to explain +the cause to you, and to discover that the soul is immortal." + +"But," said Cebes, "since I grant you this, you may draw your conclusion +at once." + +"But consider," he said, "what follows from thence, and see if you can +agree with me. For it appears to me that if there is any thing else +beautiful besides beauty itself, it is not beautiful for any other +reason than because it partakes of that abstract beauty; and I say the +same of every thing. Do you admit such a cause?" + +"I do admit it," he replied. + +113. "I do not yet understand," he continued, "nor am I able to +conceive, those other wise causes; but if any one should tell me why any +thing is beautiful, either because it has a blooming florid color, or +figure, or any thing else of the kind, I dismiss all other reasons, for +I am confounded by them all; but I simply, wholly, and perhaps +foolishly, confine myself to this, that nothing else causes it to be +beautiful except either the presence or communication of that abstract +beauty, by whatever means and in whatever way communicated; for I can +not yet affirm this with certainty, but only that by means of beauty all +beautiful things become beautiful. For this appears to me the safest +answer to give both to myself and others; and adhering to this, I think +that I shall never fall, but that it is a safe answer both for me and +any one else to give--that by means of beauty beautiful things become +beautiful. Does it not also seem so to you?" + +"It does." + +"And that by magnitude great things become great, and greater things, +greater; and by littleness less things become less?" + +"Yes." + +114. "You would not, then, approve of it, if any one said that one +person is greater than another by the head, and that the less is less by +the very same thing; but you would maintain that you mean nothing else +than that every thing that is greater than another is greater by nothing +else than magnitude, and that it is greater on this account--that is, on +account of magnitude; and that the less is less by nothing else than +littleness, and on this account less--that is, on account of littleness; +being afraid, I think, lest some opposite argument should meet you if +you should say that any one is greater and less by the head; as, first, +that the greater is greater, and the less less, by the very same thing; +and, next, that the greater is greater by the head, which is small; and +that it is monstrous to suppose that any one is great through something +small. Should you not be afraid of this?" + +To which said Cebes, smilingly, "Indeed, I should." + +"Should you not, then," he continued, "be afraid to say that ten is more +than eight by two, and for this cause exceeds it, and not by number, +and on account of number? and that two cubits are greater than one cubit +by half, and not by magnitude (for the fear is surely the same)?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +115. "What, then? When one has been added to one, would you not beware +of saying that the addition is the cause of its being two, or division +when it has been divided; and would you not loudly assert that you know +no other way in which each thing subsists, than by partaking of the +peculiar essence of each of which it partakes, and that in these cases +you can assign no other cause of its becoming two than its partaking of +duality; and that such things as are to become two must needs partake of +this, and what is to become one, of unity; but these divisions and +additions, and other such subtleties, you would dismiss, leaving them to +be given as answers by persons wiser than yourself; whereas you, +fearing, as it is said, your own shadow and inexperience, would adhere +to this safe hypothesis, and answer accordingly? But if any one should +assail this hypothesis of yours, would you not dismiss him, and refrain +from answering him till you had considered the consequences resulting +from it, whether in your opinion they agree with or differ from each +other? But when it should be necessary for you to give a reason for it, +would you give one in a similar way, by again laying down another +hypothesis, which should appear the best of higher principles, until you +arrived at something satisfactory; but, at the same time, you would +avoid making confusion, as disputants do, in treating of the first +principle and the results arising from it, if you really desire to +arrive at the truth of things? 116. For they, perhaps, make no account +at all of this, nor pay any attention to it; for they are able, through +their wisdom, to mingle all things together, and at the same time please +themselves. But you, if you are a philosopher, would act, I think, as I +now describe." + +"You speak most truly," said Simmias and Cebes together. + +_Echec._ By Jupiter! Phædo, they said so with good reason; for he +appears to me to have explained these things with wonderful clearness, +even to one endued with a small degree of intelligence. + +_Phæd._ Certainly, Echecrates, and so it appeared to all who were +present. + +_Echec._ And so it appears to me, who was absent, and now hear it +related. But what was said after this? + +As well as I remember, when these things had been granted him, and it +was allowed that each several idea exists of itself,[37] and that other +things partaking of them receive their denomination from them, he next +asked: "If, then," he said, "you admit that things are so, whether, when +you say that Simmias is greater than Socrates, but less than Phædo, do +you not then say that magnitude and littleness are both in Simmias?" + +"I do." + +117. "And yet," he said, "you must confess that Simmias's exceeding +Socrates is not actually true in the manner in which the words express +it; for Simmias does not naturally exceed Socrates in that he is +Simmias, but in consequence of the magnitude which he happens to have; +nor, again, does he exceed Socrates because Socrates is Socrates, but +because Socrates possesses littleness in comparison with his magnitude?" + +"True." + +"Nor, again, is Simmias exceeded by Phædo, because Phædo is Phædo, but +because Phædo possesses magnitude in comparison with Simmias's +littleness?" + +"It is so." + +"Thus, then, Simmias has the appellation of being both little and great, +being between both, by exceeding the littleness of one through his own +magnitude, and to the other yielding a magnitude that exceeds his own +littleness." And at the same time, smiling, he said, "I seem to speak +with the precision of a short-hand writer; however, it is as I say." + +He allowed it. + +118. "But I say it for this reason, wishing you to be of the same +opinion as myself. For it appears to me, not only that magnitude itself +is never disposed to be at the same time great and little, but that +magnitude in us never admits the little nor is disposed to be exceeded, +but one of two things, either to flee and withdraw when its contrary, +the little, approaches it, or, when it has actually come, to perish; but +that it is not disposed, by sustaining and receiving littleness, to be +different from what it was. Just as I, having received and sustained +littleness, and still continuing the person that I am, am this same +little person; but that, while it is great, never endures to be little. +And, in like manner, the little that is in us is not disposed at any +time to become or to be great, nor is any thing else among contraries, +while it continues what it was, at the same time disposed to become and +to be its contrary; but in this contingency it either departs or +perishes." + +119. "It appears so to me," said Cebes, "in every respect." + +But some one of those present, on hearing this, I do not clearly +remember who he was, said, "By the gods! was not the very contrary of +what is now asserted admitted in the former part of our discussion, that +the greater is produced from the less, and the less from the greater, +and, in a word, that the very production of contraries is from +contraries? But now it appears to me to be asserted that this can never +be the case." + +Upon this Socrates, having leaned his head forward and listened, said, +"You have reminded me in a manly way; you do not, however, perceive the +difference between what is now and what was then asserted. For then it +was said that a contrary thing is produced from a contrary; but now, +that a contrary can never become contrary to itself--neither that which +is in us, nor that which is in nature. For then, my friend, we spoke of +things that have contraries, calling them by the appellation of those +things; but now we are speaking of those very things from the presence +of which things so called receive their appellation, and of these very +things we say that they are never disposed to admit of production from +each other." 120. And, at the same time looking at Cebes, "Has anything +that has been said, Cebes, disturbed you?" + +"Indeed," said Cebes, "I am not at all so disposed; however, I by no +means say that there are not many things that disturb me." + +"Then," he continued, "we have quite agreed to this, that a contrary can +never be contrary to itself." + +"Most certainly," he replied. + +"But, further," he said, "consider whether you will agree with me in +this also. Do you call heat and cold any thing?" + +"I do." + +"The same as snow and fire?" + +"By Jupiter! I do not." + +"But heat is something different from fire, and cold something different +from snow?" + +"Yes." + +"But this, I think, is apparent to you--that snow, while it is snow, can +never, when it has admitted heat, as we said before, continue to be what +it was, snow and hot; but, on the approach of heat, it must either +withdraw or perish?" + +"Certainly." + +"And, again, that fire, when cold approaches it, must either depart or +perish; but that it will never endure, when it has admitted coldness, to +continue what it was, fire and cold?" + +121. "You speak truly," he said. + +"It happens, then," he continued, "with respect to some of such things, +that not only is the idea itself always thought worthy of the same +appellation, but likewise something else which is not, indeed, that idea +itself, but constantly retains its form so long as it exists. What I +mean will perhaps be clearer in the following examples: the odd in +number must always possess the name by which we now call it, must it +not?" + +"Certainly." + +"Must it alone, of all things--for this I ask--or is there any thing +else which is not the same as the odd, but yet which we must always call +odd, together with its own name, because it is so constituted by nature +that it can never be without the odd? But this, I say, is the case with +the number three, and many others. For consider with respect to the +number three: does it not appear to you that it must always be called by +its own name, as well as by that of the odd, which is not the same as +the number three? Yet such is the nature of the number three, five, and +the entire half of number, that though they are not the same as the odd, +yet each of them is always odd. And, again, two and four, and the whole +other series of number, though not the same as the even, are +nevertheless each of them always even: do you admit this, or not?" + +122. "How should I not?" he replied. + +"Observe then," said he, "what I wish to prove. It is this--that it +appears not only that these contraries do not admit each other, but that +even such things as are not contrary to each other, and yet always +possess contraries, do not appear to admit that idea which is contrary +to the idea that exists in themselves, but, when it approaches, perish +or depart. Shall we not allow that the number three would first perish, +and suffer any thing whatever, rather than endure, while it is still +three, to become even?" + +"Most certainly," said Cebes. + +"And yet," said he, "the number two is not contrary to three." + +"Surely not." + +"Not only, then, do ideas that are contrary never allow the approach of +each other, but some other things also do not allow the approach of +contraries." + +"You say very truly," he replied. + +"Do you wish, then," he said, "that, if we are able, we should define +what these things are?" + +"Certainly." + +"Would they not then, Cebes," he said, "be such things as, whatever they +occupy, compel that thing not only to retain its own idea, but also that +of something which is always a contrary?" + +"How do you mean?" + +123. "As we just now said. For you know, surely, that whatever things +the idea of three occupies must of necessity not only be three, but also +odd?" + +"Certainly." + +"To such a thing, then, we assert, that the idea contrary to that form +which constitutes this can never come." + +"It can not." + +"But did the odd make it so?" + +"Yes." + +"And is the contrary to this the idea of the even?" + +"Yes." + +"The idea of the even, then, will never come to the three?" + +"No, surely." + +"Three, then, has no part in the even?" + +"None whatever." + +"The number three is uneven?" + +"Yes." + +"What, therefore, I said should be defined--namely, what things they are +which, though not contrary to some particular thing, yet do not admit of +the contrary itself; as, in the present instance, the number three, +though not contrary to the even, does not any the more admit it, for it +always brings the contrary with it, just as the number two does to the +odd, fire to cold, and many other particulars. Consider, then, whether +you would thus define, not only that a contrary does not admit a +contrary, but also that that which brings with it a contrary to that to +which it approaches will never admit the contrary of that which it +brings with it. 124. But call it to mind again, for it will not be +useless to hear it often repeated. Five will not admit the idea of the +even, nor ten, its double, that of the odd. This double, then, though it +is itself contrary to something else,[38] yet will not admit the idea of +the odd, nor will half as much again, nor other things of the kind, such +as the half and the third part, admit the idea of the whole, if you +follow me, and agree with me that it is so." + +"I entirely agree with you," he said, "and follow you." + +"Tell me again, then," he said, "from the beginning; and do not answer +me in the terms in which I put the question, but in different ones, +imitating my example. For I say this because, besides that safe mode of +answering which I mentioned at first,[39] from what has now been said, I +see another no less safe one. For if you should ask me what that is +which, if it be in the body, will cause it to be hot, I should not give +you that safe but unlearned answer, that it is heat, but one more +elegant, from what we have just now said, that it is fire; nor, if you +should ask me what that is which, if it be in the body, will cause it to +be diseased, should I say that it is disease, but fever; nor if you +should ask what that is which, if it be in number, will cause it to be +odd, should I say that it is unevenness, but unity; and so with other +things. But consider whether you sufficiently understand what I mean." + +125. "Perfectly so," he replied. + +"Answer me, then," he said, "what that is which, when it is in the body, +the body will be alive?" + +"Soul," he replied. + +"Is not this, then, always the case?" + +"How should it not be?" said he. + +"Does the soul, then, always bring life to whatever it occupies?" + +"It does indeed," he replied. + +"Whether, then, is there any thing contrary to life or not?" + +"There is," he replied. + +"What?" + +"Death." + +"The soul, then, will never admit the contrary of that which it brings +with it, as has been already allowed?" + +"Most assuredly," replied Cebes. + +"What, then? How do we denominate that which does not admit the idea of +the even?" + +"Uneven," he replied. + +"And that which does not admit the just, nor the musical?" + +"Unmusical," he said, "and unjust." + +"Be it so. But what do we call that which does not admit death?" + +"Immortal," he replied. + +"Therefore, does not the soul admit death?" + +"No." + +"Is the soul, then, immortal?" + +"Immortal." + +126. "Be it so," he said. "Shall we say, then, that this has been now +demonstrated? or how think you?" + +"Most completely, Socrates." + +"What, then," said he, "Cebes, if it were necessary for the uneven to be +imperishable, would the number three be otherwise than imperishable?" + +"How should it not?" + +"If, therefore, it were also necessary that what is without heat should +be imperishable, when any one should introduce heat to snow, would not +the snow withdraw itself, safe and unmelted? For it would not perish; +nor yet would it stay and admit the heat." + +"You say truly," he replied. + +"In like manner, I think, if that which is insusceptible of cold were +imperishable, that when any thing cold approached the fire, it would +neither be extinguished nor perish, but would depart quite safe." + +"Of necessity," he said. + +"Must we not, then, of necessity," he continued, "speak thus of that +which is immortal? if that which is immortal is imperishable, it is +impossible for the soul to perish, when death approaches it. For, from +what has been said already, it will not admit death, nor will ever be +dead; just as we said that three will never be even, nor, again, will +the odd; nor will fire be cold, nor yet the heat that is in fire. 127. +But some one may say, what hinders, though the odd can never become even +by the approach of the even, as we have allowed, yet, when the odd is +destroyed, that the even should succeed in its place? We could not +contend with him who should make this objection that it is not +destroyed, for the uneven is not imperishable; since, if this were +granted us, we might easily have contended that, on the approach of the +even, the odd and the three depart; and we might have contended in the +same way with respect to fire, heat, and the rest, might we not?" + +"Certainly." + +"Wherefore, with respect to the immortal, if we have allowed that it is +imperishable, the soul, in addition to its being immortal, must also be +imperishable; if not, there will be need of other arguments." + +"But there is no need," he said, "so far as that is concerned; for +scarcely could any thing not admit of corruption, if that which is +immortal and eternal is liable to it." + +128. "The deity, indeed, I think," said Socrates, "and the idea itself +of life, and if anything else is immortal, must be allowed by all beings +to be incapable of dissolution." + +"By Jupiter!" he replied, "by all men, indeed, and still more, as I +think, by the gods." + +"Since, then, that which is immortal is also incorruptible, can the +soul, since it is immortal, be any thing else than imperishable?" + +"It must, of necessity, be so." + +"When, therefore, death approaches a man, the mortal part of him, as it +appears, dies, but the immortal part departs safe and uncorrupted, +having withdrawn itself from death?" + +"It appears so." + +"The soul, therefore," he said, "Cebes, is most certainly immortal and +imperishable, and our souls will really exist in Hades." + +"Therefore, Socrates," he said, "I have nothing further to say against +this, nor any reason for doubting your arguments. But if Simmias here, +or any one else, has any thing to say, it were well for him not to be +silent; for I know not to what other opportunity beyond the present any +one can defer it, who wishes either to speak or hear about these +things." + +"But, indeed," said Simmias, "neither have I any reason to doubt what +has been urged; yet, from the magnitude of the subject discussed, and +from my low opinion of human weakness, I am compelled still to retain a +doubt within myself with respect to what has been said." + +"Not only so, Simmias," said Socrates, "but you say this well; and, +moreover, the first hypotheses, even though they are credible to you, +should nevertheless be examined more carefully; and if you should +investigate them sufficiently, I think you will follow my reasoning as +far as it is possible for man to do so; and if this very point becomes +clear, you will inquire no further." + +"You speak truly," he said. + +"But it is right, my friends," he said, "that we should consider this--- +that if the soul is immortal, it requires our care not only for the +present time, which we call life, but for all time; and the danger would +now appear to be dreadful if one should neglect it. 130. For if death +were a deliverance from every thing, it would be a great gain for the +wicked, when they die, to be delivered at the same time from the body, +and from their vices together with the soul; but now, since it appears +to be immortal, it can have no other refuge from evils, nor safety, +except by becoming as good and wise as possible. For the soul goes to +Hades possessing nothing else than its discipline and education, which +are said to be of the greatest advantage or detriment to the dead, on +the very beginning of his journey thither. For, thus, it is said that +each person's demon who was assigned to him while living, when he dies +conducts him to some place, where they that are assembled together must +receive sentence, and then proceed to Hades with that guide who has been +ordered to conduct them from hence thither. But there having received +their deserts, and having remained the appointed time, another guide +brings them back hither again, after many and long revolutions of time. +The journey, then, is not such as the Telephus of Æschylus describes it; +for he says that a simple path leads to Hades; but it appears to me to +be neither simple nor one, for there would be no need of guides, nor +could any one ever miss the way, if there were but one. But now it +appears to have many divisions and windings; and this I conjecture from +our religious and funeral rites.[40] 131. The well-ordered and wise +soul, then, both follows, and is not ignorant of its present condition; +but that which through passion clings to the body, as I said before, +having longingly fluttered about it for a long time, and about its +visible place,[41] after vehement resistance and great suffering, is +forcibly and with great difficulty led away by its appointed demon. And +when it arrives at the place where the others are, impure and having +done any such thing as the committal of unrighteous murders or other +similar actions, which are kindred to these, and are the deeds of +kindred souls, every one shuns it and turns away from it, and will be +neither its fellow-traveler nor guide; but it wanders about, oppressed +with every kind of helplessness, until certain periods have elapsed; and +when these are completed, it is carried, of necessity, to an abode +suitable to it. But the soul which has passed through life with purity +and moderation, having obtained the gods for its fellow-travelers and +guides, settles each in the place suited to it. 132. There are, indeed, +many and wonderful places in the earth, and it is itself neither of such +a kind nor of such a magnitude as is supposed by those who are +accustomed to speak of the earth, as I have been persuaded by a certain +person." + +Whereupon Simmias said, "How mean you, Socrates? For I, too, have heard +many things about the earth--not, however, those things which have +obtained your belief. I would, therefore, gladly hear them." + +"Indeed, Simmias, the art of Glaucus[42] does not seem to me to be +required to relate what these things are. That they are true, however, +appears to me more than the art of Glaucus can prove, and, besides, I +should probably not be able to do it; and even if I did know how, what +remains to me of life, Simmias, seems insufficient for the length of the +subject. However, the form of the earth, such as I am persuaded it is, +and the different places in it, nothing hinders me from telling." + +"But that will be enough," said Simmias. + +"I am persuaded, then," said he, "in the first place, that, if the earth +is in the middle of the heavens, and is of a spherical form, it has no +need of air, nor of any other similar force, to prevent it from falling; +but that the similarity of the heavens to themselves on every side, and +the equilibrium of the earth itself, are sufficient to support it; for a +thing in a state of equilibrium when placed in the middle of something +that presses it equally on all sides can not incline more or less on any +side, but, being equally affected all around, remains unmoved. 133. In +the first place, then," he said, "I am persuaded of this." + +"And very properly so," said Simmias. + +"Yet, further," said he, "that it is very large, and that we who inhabit +some small portion of it, from the river Phasis to the pillars of +Hercules, dwell about the sea, like ants or frogs about a marsh; and +that many others elsewhere dwell in many similar places, for that there +are everywhere about the earth many hollows of various forms and sizes +into which there is a confluence of water, mist and air; but that the +earth itself, being pure, is situated in the pure heavens, in which are +the stars, and which most persons who are accustomed to speak about such +things call ether; of which these things are the sediment, and are +continually flowing into the hollow parts of the earth. 134. That we are +ignorant, then, that we are dwelling in its hollows, and imagine that we +inhabit the upper parts of the earth, just as if any one dwelling in the +bottom of the sea should think that he dwelt on the sea, and, beholding +the sun and the other stars through the water, should imagine that the +sea was the heavens; but, through sloth and weakness, should never have +reached the surface of the sea; nor, having emerged and risen up from +the sea to this region, have seen how much more pure and more beautiful +it is than the place where he is, nor has heard of it from any one else +who has seen it. This, then, is the very condition in which we are; for, +dwelling in some hollow of the earth, we think that we dwell on the +surface of it, and call the air heaven, as if the stars moved through +this, being heaven itself. But this is because, by reason of our +weakness and sloth, we are unable to reach to the summit of the air. +Since, if any one could arrive at its summit, or, becoming winged, could +fly up thither, or, emerging from hence, he would see--just as with us, +fishes, emerging from the sea, behold what is here, so any one would +behold the things there; and if his nature were able to endure the +contemplation, he would know that that is the true heaven, and the true +light, and the true earth. 135. For this earth and these stones, and the +whole region here, are decayed and corroded, as things in the sea by the +saltness; for nothing of any value grows in the sea, nor, in a word, +does it contain any thing perfect; but there are caverns and sand, and +mud in abundance, and filth, in whatever parts of the sea there is +earth, nor are they at all worthy to be compared with the beautiful +things with us. But, on the other hand, those things in the upper +regions of the earth would appear far more to excel the things with us. +For, if we may tell a beautiful fable, it is well worth hearing, +Simmias, what kind the things are on the earth beneath the heavens." + +"Indeed, Socrates," said Simmias, "we should be very glad to hear that +fable." + +136. "First of all, then, my friend," he continued, "this earth, if any +one should survey it from above, is said to have the appearance of +balls covered with twelve different pieces of leather, variegated and +distinguished with colors, of which the colors found here, and which +painters use, are, as it were, copies. But there the whole earth is +composed of such, and far more brilliant and pure than these; for one +part of it is purple, and of wonderful beauty, part of a golden color, +and part of white, more white than chalk or snow, and, in like manner, +composed of other colors, and those more in number and more beautiful +than any we have ever beheld. And those very hollow parts of the earth, +though filled with water and air, exhibit a certain species of color, +shining among the variety of other colors, so that one continually +variegated aspect presents itself to the view. In this earth, being +such, all things that grow, grow in a manner proportioned to its +nature--trees, flowers and fruits; and, again, in like manner, its +mountains and stones possess, in the same proportion, smoothness and +transparency, and more beautiful colors; of which the well-known stones +here that are so highly prized are but fragments, such as +sardine-stones, jaspers, and emeralds, and all of that kind. But there, +there is nothing subsists that is not of this character, and even more +beautiful than these. 137. But the reason of this is, because the stones +there are pure, and not eaten up and decayed, like those here, by +rottenness and saltness, which flow down hither together, and which +produce deformity and disease in the stones and the earth, and in other +things, even animals and plants. But that earth is adorned with all +these, and, moreover, with gold and silver, and other things of the +kind: for they are naturally conspicuous, being numerous and large, and +in all parts of the earth; so that to behold it is a sight for the +blessed. There are also many other animals and men upon it, some +dwelling in mid-earth, others about the air, as we do about the sea, and +others in islands which the air flows round, and which are near the +continent; and, in one word, what water and the sea are to us, for our +necessities, the air is to them; and what air is to us, that ether is to +them. 138. But their seasons are of such a temperament that they are +free from disease, and live for a much longer time than those here, and +surpass us in sight, hearing, and smelling, and every thing of this +kind, as much as air excels water, and ether air, in purity. Moreover, +they have abodes and temples of the gods, in which gods really dwell, +and voices and oracles, and sensible visions of the gods, and such-like +intercourse with them; the sun, too, and moon, and stars, are seen by +them such as they really are, and their felicity in other respects is +correspondent with these things." + +"And, such, indeed, is the nature of the whole earth, and the parts +about the earth; but there are many places all round it throughout its +cavities, some deeper and more open than that in which we dwell; but +others that are deeper have a less chasm than our region, and others are +shallower in depth than it is here, and broader. 139. But all these are +in many places perforated one into another under the earth, some with +narrower and some with wider channels, and have passages through, by +which a great quantity of water flows from one into another, as into +basins, and there are immense bulks of ever-flowing rivers under the +earth, both of hot and cold water, and a great quantity of fire, and +mighty rivers of fire, and many of liquid mire, some purer, and some +more miry, as in Sicily there are rivers of mud that flow before the +lava, and the lava itself, and from these the several places are filled, +according as the overflow from time to time happens to come to each of +them. But all these move up and down, as it were, by a certain +oscillation existing in the earth. And this oscillation proceeds from +such natural cause as this; one of the chasms of the earth is +exceedingly large, and perforated through the entire earth, and is that +which Homer[43] speaks of, 'very far off, where is the most profound +abyss beneath the earth,' which elsewhere both he and many other poets +have called Tartarus. For into this chasm all rivers flow together, and +from it flow out again; but they severally derive their character from +the earth through which they flow. 140. And the reason why all streams +flow out from thence, and flow into it, is because this liquid has +neither bottom nor base. Therefore, it oscillates and fluctuates up and +down, and the air and the wind around it do the same; for they accompany +it both when it rushes to those parts of the earth, and when to these. +And as in respiration the flowing breath is continually breathed out and +drawn in, so there the wind oscillating with the liquid causes certain +vehement and irresistible winds both as it enters and goes out. When, +therefore, the water rushing in descends to the place which we call the +lower region, it flows through the earth into the streams there, and +fills them, just as men pump up water. But when again it leaves those +regions and rushes hither, it again fills the rivers here; and these, +when filled, flow through channels and through the earth, and, having +severally reached the several places to which they are journeying, they +make seas, lakes, rivers, and fountains. 141. Then, sinking again from +thence beneath the earth, some of them having gone round longer and more +numerous places, and others round fewer and shorter, they again +discharge themselves into Tartarus--some much lower than they were drawn +up, others only a little so; but all of them flow in again beneath the +point at which they flowed out. And some issue out directly opposite the +place by which they flow in, others on the same side. There are also +some which, having gone round altogether in a circle, folding themselves +once or several times round the earth, like serpents, when they have +descended as low as possible, discharge themselves again; and it is +possible for them to descend on either side as far as the middle, but +not beyond; for in each direction there is an acclivity to the streams +both ways." + +"Now, there are many other large and various streams; but among this +great number there are four certain streams, of which the largest, and +that which flows most outwardly round the earth, is called Ocean; but +directly opposite this, and flowing in a contrary direction, is Acheron, +which flows through other desert places, and, moreover, passing under +the earth, reaches the Acherusian lake, where the souls of most who die +arrive; and, having remained there for certain destined periods, some +longer and some shorter, are again sent forth into the generations of +animals. 142. A third river issues midway between these, and, near its +source, falls into a vast region, burning with abundance of fire, and +forms a lake larger than our sea, boiling with water and mud. From hence +it proceeds in a circle, turbulent and muddy, and, folding itself round +it, reaches both other places and the extremity of the Acherusian lake, +but does not mingle with its water; but, folding itself oftentimes +beneath the earth, it discharges itself into the lower parts of +Tartarus. And this is the river which they call Pyriphlegethon, whose +burning streams emit dissevered fragments in whatever part of the earth +they happen to be. Opposite to this, again, the fourth river first falls +into a place dreadful and savage, as it is said, having its whole color +like cyanus:[44] this they call Stygian, and the lake which the river +forms by its discharge, Styx. This river, having fallen in here, and +received awful power in the water, sinking beneath the earth, proceeds, +folding itself round, in an opposite course to Pyriphlegethon, and meets +it in the Acherusian lake from, a contrary direction. Neither does the +water of this river mingle with any other; but it, too, having gone +round in a circle, discharges itself into Tartarus, opposite to +Pyriphlegethon. Its name, as the poets say, is Cocytus." + +143. "These things being thus constituted, when the dead arrive at the +place to which their demon leads them severally, first of all they are +judged, as well those who have lived well and piously, as those who have +not. And those who appear to have passed a middle kind of life, +proceeding to Acheron, and embarking in the vessels they have, on these +arrive at the lake, and there dwell; and when they are purified, and +have suffered punishment for the iniquities they may have committed, +they are set free, and each receives the reward of his good deeds, +according to his deserts. But those who appear to be incurable, through +the magnitude of their offenses, either from having committed many and +great sacrileges, or many unjust and lawless murders, or other similar +crimes, these a suitable destiny hurls into Tartarus, whence they never +come forth. 144. But those who appear to have been guilty of curable yet +great offenses--such as those who, through anger, have committed any +violence against father or mother, and have lived the remainder of their +life in a state of penitence, or they who have become homicides in a +similar manner--these must, of necessity, fall into Tartarus. But after +they have fallen, and have been there for a year, the wave casts them +forth, the homicides into Cocytus, but the parricides and matricides +into Pyriphlegethon. But when, being borne along, they arrive at the +Acherusian lake, there they cry out to and invoke, some those whom they +slew, others those whom they injured, and, invoking them, they entreat +and implore them to suffer them to go out into the lake, and to receive +them, and if they persuade them, they go out, and are freed from their +sufferings, but if not, they are borne back to Tartarus, and thence +again to the rivers. And they do not cease from suffering this until +they have persuaded those whom they have injured, for this sentence was +imposed on them by the judges. 145. But those who are found to have +lived an eminently holy life, these are they who, being freed and set at +large from these regions in the earth as from a prison, arrive at the +pure abode above, and dwell on the upper parts of the earth. And among +these, they who have sufficiently purified themselves by philosophy +shall live without bodies, throughout all future time, and shall arrive +at habitations yet more beautiful than these which it is neither easy to +describe, nor at present is there sufficient time for the purpose." + +"But, for the sake of these things which we have described, we should +use every endeavor, Simmias, so as to acquire virtue and wisdom in this +life, for the reward is noble, and the hope great." + +"To affirm positively, indeed, that these things are exactly as I have +described them does not become a man of sense. That, however, either +this, or something of the kind, takes place with respect to our souls +and their habitations--since our soul is certainly immortal--this +appears to me most fitting to be believed, and worthy the hazard for one +who trusts in its reality; for the hazard is noble, and it is right to +allure ourselves with such things, as with enchantments, for which +reason I have prolonged my story to such a length. 146. On account of +these things, then, a man ought to be confident about his soul who, +during this life, has disregarded all the pleasures and ornaments of the +body as foreign from his nature, and who, having thought that they do +more harm than good, has zealously applied himself to the acquirement of +knowledge, and who, having adorned his soul, not with a foreign, but its +own proper ornament--temperance, justice, fortitude, freedom, and +truth--thus waits for his passage to Hades, as one who is ready to +depart whenever destiny shall summon him. You, then," he continued, +"Simmias and Cebes, and the rest, will each of you depart at some future +time, but now destiny summons me, as a tragic writer would say, and it +is nearly time for me to betake myself to the bath, for it appears to me +to be better to drink the poison after I have bathed myself, and not to +trouble the women with washing my dead body." + +147. When he had thus spoken, Crito said, "So be it, Socrates, but what +commands have you to give to these or to me, either respecting your +children, or any other matter, in attending to which we can most oblige +you?" + +"What I always say, Crito," he replied, "nothing new that by taking care +of yourselves you will oblige both me and mine, and yourselves, whatever +you do, though you should not now promise it, and if you neglect +yourselves, and will not live, as it were, in the footsteps of what has +been now and formerly said, even though you should promise much at +present, and that earnestly, you will do no good at all." + +"We will endeavor, then, so to do," he said. "But how shall we bury +you?" + +"Just as you please," he said, "if only you can catch me, and I do not +escape from you." 148. And, at the same time smiling gently, and looking +round on us, he said, "I cannot persuade Crito, my friends, that I am +that Socrates who is now conversing with you, and who methodizes each +part of the discourse; but he thinks that I am he whom he will shortly +behold dead, and asks how he should bury me. But that which I some time +since argued at length, that when I have drunk the poison I shall no +longer remain with you, but shall depart to some happy state of the +blessed, this I seem to have urged to him in vain, though I meant at the +same time to console both you and myself. Be ye, then, my sureties to +Crito," he said, "in an obligation contrary to that which he made to the +judges (for he undertook that I should remain); but do you be sureties +that, when I die, I shall not remain, but shall depart, that Crito may +more easily bear it; and, when he sees my body either burned or buried, +may not be afflicted for me, as if I suffered from some dreadful thing; +nor say at my interment that Socrates is laid out, or is carried out, or +is buried. 149. For be well assured," he said, "most excellent Crito, +that to speak improperly is not only culpable as to the thing itself, +but likewise occasions some injury to our souls. You must have a good +courage, then, and say that you bury my body, and bury it in such a +manner as is pleasing to you, and as you think is most agreeable to our +laws." + +When he had said thus, he rose, and went into a chamber to bathe, and +Crito followed him, but he directed us to wait for him. We waited, +therefore, conversing among ourselves about what had been said, and +considering it again, and sometimes speaking about our calamity, how +severe it would be to us, sincerely thinking that, like those who are +deprived of a father, we should pass the rest of our life as orphans. +When he had bathed, and his children were brought to him (for he had +two little sons and one grown up), and the women belonging to his family +were come, having conversed with them in the presence of Crito, and +given them such injunctions as he wished, he directed the women and +children to go away, and then returned to us. And it was now near +sunset; for he spent a considerable time within. 150. But when he came +from bathing he sat down, and did not speak much afterward; then the +officer of the Eleven came in, and, standing near him, said, "Socrates, +I shall not have to find that fault with you that I do with others, that +they are angry with me, and curse me, when, by order of the archons, I +bid them drink the poison. But you, on all other occasions during the +time you have been here, I have found to be the most noble, meek, and +excellent man of all that ever came into this place; and, therefore, I +am now well convinced that you will not be angry with me (for you know +who are to blame), but with them. Now, then (for you know what I came to +announce to you), farewell, and endeavor to bear what is inevitable as +easily as possible." And at the same time, bursting into tears, he +turned away and withdrew. + +151. And Socrates, looking after him, said, "And thou, too, farewell. We +will do as you direct." At the same time turning to us, he said, "How +courteous the man is! During the whole time I have been here he has +visited me, and conversed with me sometimes, and proved the worthiest of +men; and now how generously he weeps for me! But come, Crito, let us +obey him, and let some one bring the poison, if it is ready pounded; but +if not, let the man pound it." + +Then Crito said, "But I think, Socrates, that the sun is still on the +mountains, and has not yet set. Besides, I know that others have drunk +the poison very late, after it had been announced to them, and have +supped and drunk freely, and some even have enjoyed the objects of their +love. Do not hasten, then, for there is yet time." + +Upon this Socrates replied, "These men whom you mention, Crito, do these +things with good reason, for they think they shall gain by so doing; and +I, too, with good reason, shall not do so; for I think I shall gain +nothing by drinking a little later, except to become ridiculous to +myself, in being so fond of life, and sparing of it, when none any +longer remains. Go then," he said, "obey, and do not resist." + +152. Crito, having heard this, nodded to the boy that stood near. And +the boy, having gone out and staid for some time, came, bringing with +him the man that was to administer the poison, who brought it ready +pounded in a cup. And Socrates, on seeing the man, said, "Well, my good +friend, as you are skilled in these matters, what must I do?" + +"Nothing else," he replied, "than, when you have drunk it, walk about +until there is a heaviness in your legs; then lie down: thus it will do +its purpose." And at the same time he held out the cup to Socrates. And +he having received it very cheerfully, Echecrates neither trembling, nor +changing at all in color or countenance, but, as he was wont, looking +steadfastly at the man, said, "What say you of this potion, with respect +to making a libation to any one, is it lawful or not?" + +"We only pound so much, Socrates," he said, "as we think sufficient to +drink." + +153. "I understand you," he said; "but it is certainly both lawful and +right to pray to the gods, that my departure hence thither may be happy; +which, therefore, I pray, and so may it be." And as he said this, he +drank it off readily and calmly. Thus far, most of us were with +difficulty able to restrain ourselves from weeping; but when we saw him +drinking, and having finished the draught, we could do so no longer; +but, in spite of myself, the tears came in full torrent, so that, +covering my face, I wept for myself; for I did not weep for him, but for +my own fortune, in being deprived of such a friend. But Crito, even +before me, when he could not restrain his tears, had risen up. 154. But +Apollodorus, even before this, had not ceased weeping; and then, +bursting into an agony of grief, weeping and lamenting, he pierced the +heart of every one present, except Socrates himself. But he said, "What +are you doing, my admirable friends? I, indeed, for this reason chiefly, +sent away the women, that they might not commit any folly of this kind. +For I have heard that it is right to die with good omens. Be quiet, +therefore, and bear up." + +When we heard this, we were ashamed, and restrained our tears. But he, +having walked about, when he said that his legs were growing heavy, lay +down on his back; for the man had so directed him. And, at the same +time, he who gave the poison taking hold of him, after a short interval, +examined his feet and legs; and then, having pressed his foot hard, he +asked if he felt it: he said that he did not. And after this he pressed +his thighs; and, thus going higher, he showed us that he was growing +cold and stiff. Then Socrates touched himself, and said that when the +poison reached his heart he should then depart. 155. But now the parts +around the lower belly were almost cold; when, uncovering himself, for +he had been covered over, he said (and they were his last words), +"Crito, we owe a cock to Aesculapius; pay it, therefore; and do not +neglect it." + +"It shall be done," said Crito; "but consider whether you have any thing +else to say." + +To this question he gave no reply; but, shortly after, he gave a +convulsive movement, and the man covered him, and his eyes were fixed; +and Crito, perceiving it, closed his mouth and eyes. + +This, Echecrates, was the end of our friend,--a man, as we may say, the +best of all of his time that we have known, and, moreover, the most wise +and just. + + +FOOTNOTES + + [25] Phlius, to which Echecrates belonged, was a town of Sicyonia, in + Peloponnesus. + + [26] A Pythagorean of Crotona. + + [27] Namely, "that it is better to die than to live." + + [28] Hitto, Boetian for hioto. + + [29] Of Pythagoras. + + [30] Some boyish spirit. + + [31] That is, at a time of life when the body is in full vigor. + + [32] In the original there is a play on the words Haides and + haeides, which I can only attempt to retain by departing from + the usual rendering of the former word. + + [33] By this I understand him to mean that the soul alone can perceive + the truth, but the senses, as they are different, receive and convey + different impressions of the same thing; thus, the eye receives one + impression of an object, the ear a totally different one. + + [34] kai ahythis eteros kai eteros, that is, "with one argument + after another" Though Cousin translates it _et successivement tout + different de luimeme_ and Ast, _et rursus alia atque alia_, which + may be taken in either sense, yet it appears to me to mean that, + when a man repeatedly discovers the fallacy of arguments which he + before believed to be true, he distrusts reasoning altogether, just + as one who meets with friend after friend who proves unfaithful + becomes a misanthrope. + + [35] Lib. xx, v. 7. + + [36] Harmony was the wife of Cadmus, the founder of Thebes; Socrates, + therefore, compares his two Theban friends, Simmias and Cebes, with + them, and says that, having overcome Simmias, the advocate of + Harmony, he must now deal with Cebes, who is represented by Cadmus. + + [37] einai ti, literally, "is something." + + [38] That is, to single. + + [39] Sec. 113. + + [40] It is difficult to express the distinction between osia + and nomima. The former word seems to have reference to the souls of + the dead; the latter, to their bodies. + + [41] Its place of interment. + + [42] A proverb meaning "a matter of great difficulty." + + [43] "Iliad," lib. viii., v. 14. + + [44] A metallic substance of a deep-blue color, frequently mentioned by + the earliest Grecian writers, but of which the nature is unknown. + + + + + + + +End of Project Gutenberg's Apology, Crito, and Phaedo of Socrates, by Plato + +*** END OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK APOLOGY, CRITO, AND PHAEDO *** + +***** This file should be named 13726-8.txt or 13726-8.zip ***** +This and all associated files of various formats will be found in: + https://www.gutenberg.org/1/3/7/2/13726/ + +Produced by Ted Garvin, Jussi Kukkonen and the Online Distributed +Proofreading Team. + + +Updated editions will replace the previous one--the old editions +will be renamed. + +Creating the works from public domain print editions means that no +one owns a United States copyright in these works, so the Foundation +(and you!) can copy and distribute it in the United States without +permission and without paying copyright royalties. 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You may copy it, give it away or +re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License included +with this eBook or online at www.gutenberg.org + + +Title: Apology, Crito, and Phaedo of Socrates + +Author: Plato + +Release Date: October 12, 2004 [EBook #13726] + +Language: English + +Character set encoding: ISO-8859-1 + +*** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK APOLOGY, CRITO, AND PHAEDO *** + + + + +Produced by Ted Garvin, Jussi Kukkonen and the Online Distributed +Proofreading Team. + + + + + + +</pre> + +<div class="titlepage"><a class='pagenumber' name='page1' id= +'page1'></a> <a name='apology_crito_and_phaedo_of_socrates' id= +'apology_crito_and_phaedo_of_socrates'></a> + +<h1><span class='smalltext'>Plato's</span><br> + Apology, Crito And Phædo<br> + Of<br> + Socrates.</h1> + +<br class="noncss"> + + +<div class='titleelement'>Literally Translated By + +<div class='contributor'>Henry Cary, M.A.,</div> + +<span class="emphasis">Worcester College, Oxford</span></div> + +<br class="noncss"> + + +<div class='titleelement'>With An Introduction By + +<div class='contributor'>Edward Brooks, jr.</div> +</div> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="toc"><a class='pagenumber' name='page2' id='page2'></a> +<a class='pagenumber' name='page3' id='page3'></a> <a name= +'contents' id='contents'></a> + +<h2>Contents.</h2> + +<div class="tocitem"><a href='#introduction'>Introduction</a></div> + +<div class="tocitem"><a href='#the_apology_of_socrates'>The Apology +Of Socrates</a></div> + +<div class="tocitem"><a href= +'#introduction_to_the_crito'>Introduction to the crito</a></div> + +<div class="tocitem"><a href= +'#crito_or_the_duty_of_a_citizen'>Crito; Or, The Duty Of A +Citizen</a></div> + +<div class="tocitem"><a href= +'#introduction_to_the_phaedo'>Introduction To The +Phædo</a></div> + +<div class="tocitem"><a href= +'#phaedo_or_the_immortality_of_the_soul'>Phædo; Or, The +Immortality Of The Soul</a></div> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="introduction"><a class='pagenumber' name='page4' id= +'page4'></a> <a class='pagenumber' name='page5' id='page5'></a> <a +class='pagenumber' name='page6' id='page6'></a> <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page7' id='page7'></a> <a name= +'introduction'></a> + +<h2>Introduction.</h2> + +<p>Of all writers of speculative philosophy, both ancient and +modern, there is probably no one who has attained so eminent a +position as Plato. What Homer was to Epic poetry, what Cicero and +Demosthenes were to oratory, and what Shakespeare was to the drama +of England, Plato was to ancient philosophy, not unapproachable nor +unapproached, but possessing an inexplicable but unquestioned +supremacy.</p> + +<p>The authentic records of his life are meagre, and much that has +been written concerning him is of a speculative nature. He was born +at Athens in the year 427 B.C. His father's name was Ariston, and +his mother's family, which claimed its descent from Solon, included +among its members many Athenian notables, among whom was Oritias, +one of the thirty tyrants.</p> + +<p>In his early youth Plato applied himself to poetry and painting, +both of which pursuits he relinquished to become the disciple and +follower of Socrates. It is said that his name was originally +Aristocles, but that it was changed to Plato on account of the +breadth of his shoulders and forehead. He is also said to have been +an expert wrestler and to have taken part in several important +battles.</p> + +<p>He was the devoted friend and pupil of Socrates, and during the +imprisonment of his master he attended him <a class='pagenumber' +name='page8' id='page8'></a> constantly, and committed to writing +his last discourses on the immortality of the soul.</p> + +<p>After the death of Socrates it is supposed that Plato took +refuge with Euclides in Megara, and subsequently extended his +travels into Magna Graecia and Egypt.</p> + +<p>Upon his return to Athens he taught those who came to him for +instruction in the grove named Academus, near the Cephisus, and +thus founded the first great philosophical school, over which he +continued to preside until the day of his death. Above the entrance +to this grove was inscribed the legend: "Let no one ignorant of +geometry enter here." Here he was attended by persons of every +description, among the more illustrious of whom were Aristotle, +Lycurgus, Demosthenes and Isocrates.</p> + +<p>There is a story to the effect that Plato three times visited +Sicily, once upon the invitation of the elder Dionysius, and twice +at the earnest solicitations of the younger. The former he is said +to have so seriously offended as to cause the tyrant to have him +seized on his return home and sold as a slave, from which state of +bondage he was, however, released by Anicerius of Cyrene.</p> + +<p>The people of his time thought more of him than they did of all +their other philosophers, and called him the Divine Plato. So great +was the regard and veneration for him that it was considered better +to err with Plato than be right with any one else.</p> + +<p>The writings of Plato are numerous, and most of them are in the +form of dialogues. The following pages contain translations of +three of his works, viz.: "The Apologia," "The Crito" and "The +Phædo," all of <a class='pagenumber' name='page9' id= +'page9'></a>which have reference to the trial, imprisonment and +death of Socrates.</p> + +<p>"The Apologia" represents Socrates on trial for his life, +undertaking his own defence, though unaccustomed to the language of +the courts, the occasion being, as he says, the first time he has +ever been before a court of justice, though seventy years of age. +Plato was present at the trial, and no doubt gives us the very +arguments used by the accused. Two charges were brought against +Socrates—one that he did not believe in the gods recognized +by the State, the other that he had corrupted the Athenian youth by +his teachings. Socrates does not have recourse to the ordinary +methods adopted by orators on similar occasions. He prefers to +stand upon his own integrity and innocence, uninfluenced by the +fear of that imaginary evil, death. He, therefore, does not firmly +grapple with either of the charges preferred against him. He +neither denies nor confesses the first accusation, but shows that +in several instances he conformed to the religious customs of his +country, and that he believes in God more than he fears man. The +second charge he meets by a cross-examination of his accuser, +Melitus, whom he reduces to the dilemma of charging him with +corrupting the youth designedly, which would be absurd, or with +doing so undesignedly, for which he could not be liable to +punishment.</p> + +<p>His defence, however, avails him nothing, and he is condemned by +the judges to die by drinking the poisonous hemlock. In the closing +part of "The Apologia" Socrates is represented as commenting upon +the sentence which has been passed upon him, and as expressing his +<a class='pagenumber' name='page10' id='page10'></a>belief that in +going to his death he is only passing to a better and a happier +life.</p> + +<p>In "The Crito" Socrates is represented in conversation with a +friend of his named Crito, who had been present at his trial, and +who had offered to assist Socrates in paying a fine, had a fine +been the sentence imposed. Crito visits Socrates in his confinement +to bring to him the intelligence that the ship, the arrival of +which was to be the signal for his death upon the following day, +would arrive forthwith, and to urge him to adopt the means of +escape which had already been prepared. Socrates promises to follow +the advice of Crito if, upon a full discussion of the matter, it +seems right to do so. In the conversation which ensues Socrates +argues that it is wrong to return evil for evil and that the +obligations which a citizen owes to his State are more binding than +those which a child owes his parents or a slave his master, and, +therefore, it is his duty to submit to the laws of Athens at +whatever cost to himself. Crito has no answer to make to this +argument, and Socrates thereupon decides to submit to his fate.</p> + +<p>Plato is said to have had two objects in writing this dialogue: +First, to acquit Socrates of the charge of corrupting the Athenian +youth; and, second, to establish the fact that it is necessary +under all circumstances to submit to the established laws of his +country.</p> + +<p>"The Phædo" relates the manner in which Socrates spent the +last day of his life and the circumstances attending his death. He +is visited by a number of his friends, among whom are Phædo, +Simmias and Crito. When his friends arrive they find him sitting +upon a bed <a class='pagenumber' name='page11' id='page11'></a> +rubbing his legs, which have just been released from bonds. He +remarks upon the unaccountable connection between pleasure and +pain, and from this the conversation gradually turns to a +consideration of the question of the immortality of the soul. He +convinces his listeners of the pre-existence of the soul; but they +are still skeptical as to its immortality, urging that its +pre-existence and the fact that it is more durable than the body +does not preclude the possibility of its being mortal. Socrates, +however, argues that contraries cannot exist in the same thing at +the same time, as, for example, the same object cannot partake of +both magnitude and littleness at the same time. In like manner, +heat while it is heat can never admit the idea of cold. Life and +death are contraries and can never coexist; but wherever there is +life there is soul, so that the soul contains that which is +contrary to death and can never admit death; consequently the soul +is immortal.</p> + +<p>Having convinced his listeners, Socrates bathes and takes leave +of his children and the women of his family. Thereupon the officer +appears and tells him it is time for him to drink the poison. At +this his friends commence to weep and are rebuked by Socrates for +their weakness. He drinks the poison calmly and without hesitation, +and then begins to walk about, still conversing with his friends. +His limbs soon grow stiff and heavy and he lays himself down upon +his back. His last words are: "Crito, we owe a cock to +Æsculapius; pay it, therefore, and do not neglect it."</p> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="book"><a class='pagenumber' name='page12' id= +'page12'></a> <a class='pagenumber' name='page13' id='page13'></a> +<a name='the_apology_of_socrates'></a> + +<h2>The Apology Of Socrates.</h2> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec1" name= +"apology_sec1"></a>I know not, O Athenians! how far you have been +influenced by my accusers for my part, in listening to them I +almost forgot myself, so plausible were their arguments however, so +to speak, they have said nothing true. But of the many falsehoods +which they uttered I wondered at one of them especially, that in +which they said that you ought to be on your guard lest you should +be deceived by me, as being eloquent in speech. For that they are +not ashamed of being forthwith convicted by me in fact, when I +shall show that I am not by any means eloquent, this seemed to me +the most shameless thing in them, unless indeed they call him +eloquent who speaks the truth. For, if they mean this, then I would +allow that I am an orator, but not after their fashion for they, as +I affirm, have said nothing true, but from me you shall hear the +whole truth. Not indeed, Athenians, arguments highly wrought, as +theirs were, with choice phrases and expressions, nor adorned, but +you shall hear a speech uttered without premeditation in such words +as first present themselves. For I am confident that what I say +will be just, and let none of you expect otherwise, for surely it +would not become my time of life to come before you like a youth +with a got up speech. Above all things, <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page14' id='page14'></a>therefore, I beg and implore this of you, +O Athenians! if you hear me defending myself in the same language +as that in which I am accustomed to speak both in the forum at the +counters, where many of you have heard me, and elsewhere, not to be +surprised or disturbed on this account. For the case is this: I now +for the first time come before a court of justice, though more than +seventy years old; I am therefore utterly a stranger to the +language here. As, then, if I were really a stranger, you would +have pardoned me if I spoke in the language and the manner in which +I had been educated, so now I ask this of you as an act of justice, +as it appears to me, to disregard the manner of my speech, for +perhaps it may be somewhat worse, and perhaps better, and to +consider this only, and to give your attention to this, whether I +speak what is just or not; for this is the virtue of a judge, but +of an orator to speak the truth.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec2" name= +"apology_sec2">2</a>. First, then, O Athenians! I am right in +defending myself against the first false accusations alleged +against me, and my first accusers, and then against the latest +accusations, and the latest accusers. For many have been accusers +of me to you, and for many years, who have asserted nothing true, +of whom I am more afraid than of Anytus and his party, although +they too are formidable; but those are still more formidable, +Athenians, who, laying hold of many of you from childhood, have +persuaded you, and accused me of what is not true: "that there is +one Socrates, a wise man, who occupies himself about celestial +matters, and has explored every thing under the earth, and makes +the worse appear the better reason." Those, O Athenians! who have +spread abroad this report are my formidable accusers; for they who +hear them think that such as search into these things do not +believe that there are gods. In the next place, these accusers are +numerous, and have accused me now for <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page15' id='page15'></a>a long time; moreover, they said these +things to you at that time of life in which you were most +credulous, when you were boys and some of you youths, and they +accused me altogether in my absence, when there was no one to +defend me. But the most unreasonable thing of all is, that it is +not possible to learn and mention their names, except that one of +them happens to be a comic poet.<a id="footnotetag1" name= +"footnotetag1" href="#footnote1"><sup>1</sup></a> Such, however, +as, influenced by envy and calumny, have persuaded you, and those +who, being themselves persuaded, have persuaded others, all these +are most difficult to deal with; for it is not possible to bring +any of them forward here, nor to confute any; but it is altogether +necessary to fight, as it were with a shadow, in making my defense, +and to convict when there is no one to answer. Consider, therefore, +as I have said, that my accusers are twofold, some who have lately +accused me, and others long since, whom I have made mention of; and +believe that I ought to defend myself against these first; for you +heard them accusing me first, and much more than these last.</p> + +<p>Well. I must make my defense, then, O Athenians! and endeavor in +this so short a space of time to remove from your minds the calumny +which you have long entertained. I wish, indeed, it might be so, if +it were at all better both for you and me, and that in making my +defense I could effect something more advantageous still: I think, +however, that it will be difficult, and I am not entirely ignorant +what the difficulty is. Nevertheless, let this turn out as may be +pleasing to God, I must obey the law and make my defense.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec3" name= +"apology_sec3">3</a>. Let us, then, repeat from the beginning what +the accusation is from which the calumny against me has arisen, <a +class='pagenumber' name='page16' id='page16'></a>and relying on +which Melitus has preferred this indictment against me. Well. What, +then, do they who charge me say in their charge? For it is +necessary to read their deposition as of public accusers. "Socrates +acts wickedly, and is criminally curious in searching into things +under the earth, and in the heavens, and in making the worse appear +the better cause, and in teaching these same things to others." +Such is the accusation: for such things you have yourselves seen in +the comedy of Aristophanes, one Socrates there carried about, +saying that he walks in the air, and acting many other +buffooneries, of which I understand nothing whatever. Nor do I say +this as disparaging such a science, if there be any one skilled in +such things, only let me not be prosecuted by Melitus on a charge +of this kind; but I say it, O Athenians! because I have nothing to +do with such matters. And I call upon most of you as witnesses of +this, and require you to inform and tell each other, as many of you +as have ever heard me conversing; and there are many such among +you. Therefore tell each other, if any one of you has ever heard me +conversing little or much on such subjects. And from this you will +know that other things also, which the multitude assert of me, are +of a similar nature.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec4" name= +"apology_sec4">4</a>. However not one of these things is true; nor, +if you have heard from any one that I attempt to teach men, and +require payment, is this true. Though this, indeed, appears to me +to be an honorable thing, if one should be able to instruct men, +like Gorgias the Leontine, Prodicus the Cean, and Hippias the +Elean. For each of these, O Athenians! is able, by going through +the several cities, to persuade the young men, who can attach +themselves gratuitously to such of their own fellow-citizens as +they please, to abandon their fellow-citizens and associate with +them, giving <a class='pagenumber' name='page17' id= +'page17'></a>them money and thanks besides. There is also another +wise man here, a Parian, who, I hear, is staying in the city. For I +happened to visit a person who spends more money on the sophists +than all others together: I mean Callias, son of Hipponicus. I +therefore asked him, for he has two sons, "Callias," I said, "if +your two sons were colts or calves, we should have had to choose a +master for them, and hire a person who would make them excel in +such qualities as belong to their nature; and he would have been a +groom or an agricultural laborer. But now, since your sons are men, +what master do you intend to choose for them? Who is there skilled +in the qualities that become a man and a citizen? For I suppose you +must have considered this, since you have sons. Is there any one," +I said, "or not?" "Certainly," he answered. "Who is he?" said I, +"and whence does he come? and on what terms does he teach?" He +replied, "Evenus the Parian, Socrates, for five minæ." And I +deemed Evenus happy, if he really possesses this art, and teaches +admirably. And I too should think highly of myself, and be very +proud, if I possessed this knowledge, but I possess it not, O +Athenians.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec5" name= +"apology_sec5">5</a>. Perhaps, one of you may now object: "But, +Socrates, what have you done, then? Whence have these calumnies +against you arisen? For surely if you had not busied yourself more +than others, such a report and story would never have got abroad, +unless you had done something different from what most men do. Tell +us, therefore, what it is, that we may not pass a hasty judgment on +you." He who speaks thus appears to me to speak justly, and I will +endeavor to show you what it is that has occasioned me this +character and imputation. Listen, then: to some of you perhaps I +shall appear to jest, yet be assured that I shall tell you the +whole truth. For I, O Athenians! have acquired this character <a +class='pagenumber' name='page18' id='page18'></a>through nothing +else than a certain wisdom. Of what kind, then, is this wisdom? +Perhaps it is merely human wisdom. For in this, in truth, I appear +to be wise. They probably, whom I have just now mentioned, +possessed a wisdom more than human, otherwise I know not what to +say about it; for I am not acquainted with it, and whosoever says I +am, speaks falsely, and for the purpose of calumniating me. But, O +Athenians! do not cry out against me, even though I should seem to +you to speak somewhat arrogantly. For the account which I am going +to give you is not my own; but I shall refer to an authority whom +you will deem worthy of credit. For I shall adduce to you the god +at Delphi as a witness of my wisdom, if I have any, and of what it +is. You doubtless know Chærepho: he was my associate from +youth, and the associate of most of you; he accompanied you in your +late exile, and returned with you. You know, then, what kind of a +man Chærepho was, how earnest in whatever he undertook. +Having once gone to Delphi, he ventured to make the following +inquiry of the oracle (and, as I said, O Athenians! do not cry +out), for he asked if there was any one wiser than I. The Pythian +thereupon answered that there was not one wiser; and of this, his +brother here will give you proofs, since he himself is dead.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec6" name= +"apology_sec6">6</a>. Consider, then, why I mention these things: +it is because I am going to show you whence the calumny against me +arose. For when I heard this, I reasoned thus with myself, What +does the god mean? What enigma is this? For I am not conscious to +myself that I am wise, either much or little. What, then, does he +mean by saying that I am the wisest? For assuredly he does not +speak falsely: that he could not do. And for a long time I was in +doubt what he meant; afterward, with considerable difficulty, I had +recourse <a class='pagenumber' name='page19' id='page19'></a>to the +following method of searching out his meaning. I went to one of +those who have the character of being wise, thinking that there, if +anywhere, I should confute the oracle, and show in answer to the +response that This man is wiser than I, though you affirmed that I +was the wisest. Having, then, examined this man (for there is no +occasion to mention his name; he was, however, one of our great +politicians, in examining whom I felt as I proceed to describe, O +Athenians!), having fallen into conversation with him, this man +appeared to be wise in the opinion of most other men, and +especially in his own opinion, though in fact he was not so. I +thereupon endeavored to show him that he fancied himself to be +wise, but really was not. Hence I became odious, both to him and to +many others who were present. When I left him, I reasoned thus with +myself: I am wiser than this man, for neither of us appears to know +anything great and good; but he fancies he knows something, +although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know anything, so +I do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I appear to +be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not know. +After that I went to another who was thought to be wiser than the +former, and formed the very same opinion. Hence I became odious to +him and to many others.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec7" name= +"apology_sec7">7</a>. After this I went to others in turn, +perceiving indeed, and grieving and alarmed, that I was making +myself odious; however, it appeared necessary to regard the oracle +of the god as of the greatest moment, and that, in order to +discover its meaning, I must go to all who had the reputation of +possessing any knowledge. And by the dog, O Athenians! for I must +tell you the truth, I came to some such conclusion as this: those +who bore the highest reputation appeared to me to be most +deficient, in my researches in obedience <a class='pagenumber' +name='page20' id='page20'></a>to the god, and others who were +considered inferior more nearly approaching to the possession of +understanding. But I must relate to you my wandering, and the +labors which I underwent, in order that the oracle might prove +incontrovertible. For after the politicians I went to the poets, as +well the tragic as the dithyrambic and others, expecting that here +I should in very fact find myself more ignorant than they. Taking +up, therefore, some of their poems, which appeared to me most +elaborately finished, I questioned them as to their meaning, that +at the same time I might learn something from them. I am ashamed, O +Athenians! to tell you the truth; however, it must be told. For, in +a word, almost all who were present could have given a better +account of them than those by whom they had been composed. I soon +discovered this, therefore, with regard to the poets, that they do +not effect their object by wisdom, but by a certain natural +inspiration, and under the influence of enthusiasm, like prophets +and seers; for these also say many fine things, but they understand +nothing that they say. The poets appeared to me to be affected in a +similar manner; and at the same time I perceived that they +considered themselves, on account of their poetry, to be the wisest +of men in other things, in which they were not. I left them, +therefore, under the persuasion that I was superior to them, in the +same way that I was to the politicians.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec8" name= +"apology_sec8">8</a>. At last, therefore, I went to the artisans. +For I was conscious to myself that I knew scarcely anything, but I +was sure that I should find them possessed of much beautiful +knowledge. And in this I was not deceived; for they knew things +which I did not, and in this respect they were wiser than I. But, O +Athenians! even the best workmen appeared to me to have fallen into +the same error as the poets; for each, because he excelled in the +practice of his art, thought <a class='pagenumber' name='page21' +id='page21'></a>that he was very wise in other most important +matters, and this mistake of theirs obscured the wisdom that they +really possessed. I therefore asked myself, in behalf of the +oracle, whether I should prefer to continue as I am, possessing +none, either of their wisdom or their ignorance, or to have both as +they have. I answered, therefore, to myself and to the oracle, that +it was better for me to continue as I am.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec9" name= +"apology_sec9">9</a>. From this investigation, then, O Athenians! +many enmities have arisen against me, and those the most grievous +and severe, so that many calumnies have sprung from them, and among +them this appellation of being wise; for those who are from time to +time present think that I am wise in those things, with respect to +which I expose the ignorance of others. The god, however, O +Athenians! appears to be really wise, and to mean this by his +oracle: that human wisdom is worth little or nothing; and it is +clear that he did not say this to Socrates, but made use of my +name, putting me forward as an example, as if he had said, that man +is the wisest among you, who, like Socrates, knows that he is in +reality worth nothing with respect to wisdom. Still, therefore, I +go about and search and inquire into these things, in obedience to +the god, both among citizens and strangers, if I think any one of +them is wise; and when he appears to me not to be so, I take the +part of the god, and show that he is not wise. And, in consequence +of this occupation, I have no leisure to attend in any considerable +degree to the affairs of the state or my own; but I am in the +greatest poverty through my devotion to the service of the god.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec10" name= +"apology_sec10">10</a>. In addition to this, young men, who have +much leisure and belong to the wealthiest families, following me of +their own accord, take great delight in hearing men put to the +test, and often imitate me, and themselves attempt to <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page22' id='page22'></a>put others to the test; +and then, I think, they find a great abundance of men who fancy +they know something, although they know little or nothing. Hence +those who are put to the test by them are angry with me, and not +with them, and say that "there is one Socrates, a most pestilent +fellow, who corrupts the youth." And when any one asks them by +doing or teaching what, they have nothing to say, for they do not +know; but, that they may not seem to be at a loss, they say such +things as are ready at hand against all philosophers; "that he +searches into things in heaven and things under the earth, that he +does not believe there are gods, and that he makes the worse appear +the better reason." For they would not, I think, be willing to tell +the truth that they have been detected in pretending to possess +knowledge, whereas they know nothing. Therefore, I think, being +ambitions and vehement and numerous, and speaking systematically +and persuasively about me, they have filled your ears, for a long +time and diligently calumniating me. From among these, Melitus, +Anytus and Lycon have attacked me; Melitus being angry on account +of the poets, Anytus on account of the artisans and politicians, +and Lycon on account of the rhetoricians. So that, as I said in the +beginning, I should wonder if I were able in so short a time to +remove from your minds a calumny that has prevailed so long. This, +O Athenians! is the truth; and I speak it without concealing or +disguising anything from you, much or little; though I very well +know that by so doing I shall expose myself to odium. This, +however, is a proof that I speak the truth, and that this is the +nature of the calumny against me, and that these are its causes. +And if you will investigate the matter, either now or hereafter, +you will find it to be so.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec11" name= +"apology_sec11">11</a>. With respect, then, to the charges which my +first accusers <a class='pagenumber' name='page23' id= +'page23'></a>have alleged against me, let this be a sufficient +apology to you. To Melitus, that good and patriotic man, as he +says, and to my later accusers, I will next endeavor to give an +answer; and here, again, as there are different accusers, let us +take up their deposition. It is pretty much as follows: "Socrates," +it says, "acts unjustly in corrupting the youth, and in not +believing in those gods in whom the city believes, but in other +strange divinities." Such is the accusation; let us examine each +particular of it. It says that I act unjustly in corrupting the +youth. But I, O Athenians! say that Melitus acts unjustly, because +he jests on serious subjects, rashly putting men upon trial, under +pretense of being zealous and solicitous about things in which he +never at any time took any concern. But that this is the case I +will endeavor to prove to you.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec12" name= +"apology_sec12">12</a>. Come, then, Melitus, tell me, do you not +consider it of the greatest importance that the youth should be +made as virtuous as possible?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> I do.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Well, now, tell the +judges who it is that makes them better, for it is evident that you +know, since it concerns you so much; for, having detected me in +corrupting them, as you say, you have cited me here, and accused +me: come, then, say, and inform the judges who it is that makes +them better. Do you see, Melitus, that you are silent, and have +nothing to say? But does it not appear to you to be disgraceful, +and a sufficient proof of what I say, that you never took any +concern about the matter? But tell me, friend, who makes them +better?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> The laws.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> I do not ask this, most +excellent sir, but what man, who surely must first know this very +thing, the laws?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> These, Socrates, the +judges.</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page24' id='page24'></a><span class= +"speakername">Socr.</span> How say you, Melitus? Are these able to +instruct the youth, and make them better?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> Certainly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Whether all, or some of +them, and others not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> All.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> You say well, by Juno! +and have found a great abundance of those that confer benefit. But +what further? Can these hearers make them better, or not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> They, too, can.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> And what of the +senators?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> The senators, also.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> But, Melitus, do those +who attend the public assemblies corrupt the younger men? or do +they all make them better?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> They too.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> All the Athenians, +therefore, as it seems, make them honorable and good, except me; +but I alone corrupt them. Do you say so?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> I do assert this very +thing.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> You charge me with great +ill-fortune. But answer me: does it appear to you to be the same, +with respect to horses? Do all men make them better, and is there +only some one that spoils them? or does quite the contrary of this +take place? Is there some one person who can make them better, or +very few; that is, the trainers? But if the generality of men +should meddle with and make use of horses, do they spoil them? Is +not this the case, Melitus, both with respect to horses and all +other animals? It certainly is so, whether you and Anytus deny it +or not. For it would be a great good-fortune for the youth if only +one person corrupted, and the rest benefited them. However, +Melitus, you have sufficiently shown that you never bestowed any +care upon youth; and you clearly evince your own negligence, <a +class='pagenumber' name='page25' id='page25'></a>in that you have +never paid any attention to the things with respect to which you +accuse me.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec13" name= +"apology_sec13">13</a>. Tell us further, Melitus, in the name of +Jupiter, whether is it better to dwell with good or bad citizens? +Answer, my friend; for I ask you nothing difficult. Do not the bad +work some evil to those that are continually near them, but the +good some good?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> Certainly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Is there any one that +wishes to be injured rather than benefited by his associates? +Answer, good man; for the law requires you to answer. Is there any +one who wishes to be injured?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> No, surely.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Come, then, whether do +you accuse me here, as one that corrupts the youth, and makes them +more depraved, designedly or undesignedly?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> Designedly, I say.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> What, then, Melitus, are +you at your time of life so much wiser than I at my time of life, +as to know that the evil are always working some evil to those that +are most near to them, and the good some good; but I have arrived +at such a pitch of ignorance as not to know that if I make any one +of my associates depraved, I shall be in danger of receiving some +evil from him; and yet I designedly bring about this so great evil, +as you say? In this I can not believe you, Melitus, nor do I think +would any other man in the world. But either I do not corrupt the +youth, or, if I do corrupt them, I do it undesignedly: so that in +both cases you speak falsely. But if I corrupt them undesignedly, +for such involuntary offenses it is not usual to accuse one here, +but to take one apart, and teach and admonish one. For it is +evident that if I am taught, I shall cease doing what I do +undesignedly. But you shunned me, and were not willing <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page26' id='page26'></a>to associate with and +instruct me; but you accuse me here, where it is usual to accuse +those who need punishment, and not instruction.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec14" name= +"apology_sec14">14</a>. Thus, then, O Athenians! this now is clear +that I have said; that Melitus never paid any attention to these +matters, much or little. However, tell us, Melitus, how you say I +corrupt the youth? Is it not evidently, according to the indictment +which you have preferred, by teaching them not to believe in the +gods in whom the city believes, but in other strange deities? Do +you not say that, by teaching these things, I corrupt the +youth?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> Certainly I do say so.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> By those very gods, +therefore, Melitus, of whom the discussion now is, speak still more +clearly both to me and to these men. For I can not understand +whether you say that I teach them to believe that there are certain +gods (and in that case I do believe that there are gods, and am not +altogether an atheist, nor in this respect to blame), not, however, +those which the city believes in, but others; and this it is that +you accuse me of, that I introduce others. Or do you say outright +that I do not myself believe that there are gods, and that I teach +others the same?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> I say this: that you do +not believe in any gods at all.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> O wonderful Melitus, how +come you to say this? Do I not, then, like the rest of mankind, +believe that the sun and moon are gods?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> No, by Jupiter, O judges! +for he says that the sun is a stone, and the moon an earth.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> You fancy that you are +accusing Anaxagoras, my dear Melitus, and thus you put a slight on +these men, and suppose them to be so illiterate as not to know that +the books of Anaxagoras of Clazomene are full of such assertions. +<a class='pagenumber' name='page27' id='page27'></a>And the young, +moreover, learn these things from me, which they might purchase for +a drachma, at most, in the orchestra, and so ridicule Socrates, if +he pretended they were his own, especially since they are so +absurd? I ask then, by Jupiter, do I appear to you to believe that +there is no god?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> No, by Jupiter, none +whatever.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> You say what is +incredible, Melitus, and that, as appears to me, even to yourself. +For this man, O Athenians! appears to me to be very insolent and +intemperate and to have preferred this indictment through downright +insolence, intemperance, and wantonness. For he seems, as it were, +to have composed an enigma for the purpose of making an experiment. +Whether will Socrates the wise know that I am jesting, and +contradict myself, or shall I deceive him and all who hear me? For, +in my opinion, he clearly contradicts himself in the indictment, as +if he should say, Socrates is guilty of wrong in not believing that +there are gods, and in believing that there are gods. And this, +surely, is the act of one who is trifling.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec15" name= +"apology_sec15">15</a>. Consider with me now, Athenians, in what +respect he appears to me to say so. And do you, Melitus, answer me; +and do ye, as I besought you at the outset, remember not to make an +uproar if I speak after my usual manner.</p> + +<p>Is there any man, Melitus, who believes that there are human +affairs, but does not believe that there are men? Let him answer, +judges, and not make so much noise. Is there any one who does not +believe that there are horses, but that there are things pertaining +to horses? or who does not believe that there are pipers, but that +there are things pertaining to pipes? There is not, O best of men! +for since you are not willing to answer, I say it to you and to all +here present. But answer to this at least: is there any one who <a +class='pagenumber' name='page28' id='page28'></a>believes that +there are things relating to demons, but does not believe that +there are demons?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> There is not.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> How obliging you are in +having hardly answered; though compelled by these judges! You +assert, then, that I do believe and teach things relating to +demons, whether they be new or old; therefore, according to your +admission, I do believe in things relating to demons, and this you +have sworn in the bill of indictment. If, then, I believe in things +relating to demons, there is surely an absolute necessity that I +should believe that there are demons. Is it not so? It is. For I +suppose you to assent, since you do not answer. But with respect to +demons, do we not allow that they are gods, or the children of +gods? Do you admit this or not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Mel.</span> Certainly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Since, then, I allow that +there are demons, as you admit, if demons are a kind of gods, this +is the point in which I say you speak enigmatically and divert +yourself in saying that I do not allow there are gods, and again +that I do allow there are, since I allow that there are demons? But +if demons are the children of gods, spurious ones, either from +nymphs or any others, of whom they are reported to be, what man can +think that there are sons of gods, and yet that there are not gods? +For it would be just as absurd as if any one should think that +there are mules, the offspring of horses and asses, but should not +think there are horses and asses. However, Melitus, it can not be +otherwise than that you have preferred this indictment for the +purpose of trying me, or because you were at a loss what real crime +to allege against me; for that you should persuade any man who has +the smallest degree of sense that the same person can think that +there are things relating to demons and to <a class='pagenumber' +name='page29' id='page29'></a>gods, and yet that there are neither +demons, nor gods, not heroes, is utterly impossible.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec16" name= +"apology_sec16">16</a>. That I am not guilty, then, O Athenians! +according to the indictment of Melitus, appears to me not to +require a lengthened defense; but what I have said is sufficient. +And as to what I said at the beginning, that there is a great +enmity toward me among the multitude, be assured it is true. And +this it is which will condemn me, if I am condemned, not Melitus, +nor Anytus, but the calumny and envy of the multitude, which have +already condemned many others, and those good men, and will, I +think, condemn others also; for there is no danger that it will +stop with me.</p> + +<p>Perhaps, however, some one may say, "Are you not ashamed, +Socrates, to have pursued a study from which you are now in danger +of dying?" To such a person I should answer with good reason, You +do not say well, friend, if you think that a man, who is even of +the least value, ought to take into the account the risk of life or +death, and ought not to consider that alone when be performs any +action, whether he is acting justly or unjustly, and the part of a +good man or bad man. For, according to your reasoning, all those +demi-gods that died at Troy would be vile characters, as well all +the rest as the son of Thetis, who so far despised danger in +comparison of submitting to disgrace, that when his mother, who was +a goddess, spoke to him, in his impatience to kill Hector, +something to this effect, as I think,<a id="footnotetag2" name= +"footnotetag2" href="#footnote2"><sup>2</sup></a> "My son, if you +revenge the death of your friend Patroclus, and slay Hector, you +will yourself die, for," she said, "death awaits you immediately +after Hector;" but he, on hearing this, despised death and danger, +and dreading much more to live as a coward, and not avenge his <a +class='pagenumber' name='page30' id='page30'></a>friend, said, "May +I die immediately when I have inflicted punishment on the guilty, +that I may not stay here an object of ridicule, by the curved +ships, a burden to the ground?"—do you think that he cared +for death and danger? For thus it is, O Athenians! in truth: +wherever any one has posted himself, either thinking it to be +better, or has been posted by his chief, there, as it appears to +me, he ought to remain and meet danger, taking no account either of +death or anything else in comparison with disgrace.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec17" name= +"apology_sec17">17</a>. I then should be acting strangely, O +Athenians! if, when the generals whom you chose to command me +assigned me my post at Potidæa, at Amphipolis, and at Delium, +I then remained where they posted me, like any other person, and +encountered the danger of death; but when the deity, as I thought +and believed, assigned it as my duty to pass my life in the study +of philosophy, and examining myself and others, I should on that +occasion, through fear of death or any thing else whatsoever, +desert my post, strange indeed would it be; and then, in truth, any +one might justly bring me to trial, and accuse me of not believing +in the gods, from disobeying the oracle, fearing death, and +thinking myself to be wise when I am not. For to fear death, O +Athenians! is nothing else than to appear to be wise, without being +so; for it is to appear to know what one does not know. For no one +knows but that death is the greatest of all good to man; but men +fear it, as if they well knew that it is the greatest of evils. And +how is not this the most reprehensible ignorance, to think that one +knows what one does not know? But I, O Athenians! in this, perhaps, +differ from most men; and if I should say that I am in any thing +wiser than another, it would be in this, that not having a +competent knowledge of the things in Hades, I also think that I +have not such knowledge. But to act unjustly, and to disobey my +superior, <a class='pagenumber' name='page31' id= +'page31'></a>whether God or man, I know is evil and base. I shall +never, therefore, fear or shun things which, for aught I know, +maybe good, before evils which I know to be evils. So that, even if +you should now dismiss me, not yielding to the instances of Anytus, +who said that either I should not<a id="footnotetag3" name= +"footnotetag3" href="#footnote3"><sup>3</sup></a> appear here at +all, or that, if I did appear, it was impossible not to put me to +death, telling you that if I escaped, your sons, studying what +Socrates teaches, would all be utterly corrupted; if you should +address me thus, "Socrates, we shall not now yield to Anytus, but +dismiss you, on this condition, however, that you no longer +persevere in your researches nor study philosophy; and if hereafter +you are detected in so doing, you shall die"—if, as I said, +you should dismiss, me on these terms, I should say to you, "O +Athenians! I honor and love you; but I shall obey God rather than +you; and so long as I breathe and am able, I shall not cease +studying philosophy, and exhorting you and warning any one of you I +may happen to meet, saying, as I have been accustomed to do: 'O +best of men! seeing you are an Athenian, of a city the most +powerful and most renowned for wisdom and strength, are you not +ashamed of being careful for riches, how you may acquire them in +greatest abundance, and for glory, and honor, but care not nor take +any thought for wisdom and truth, and for your soul, how it maybe +made most perfect?'" And if any one of you should question my +assertion, and affirm that he does care for these things, I shall +not at once let him go, nor depart, but I shall question him, sift +and prove him. And if he should appear to me not to possess virtue, +but to pretend that he does, I shall reproach him for that he sets +the least value on things of the greatest worth, but the highest on +things that are worthless. Thus I shall act to all <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page32' id='page32'></a>whom I meet, both young +and old, stranger and citizen, but rather to you, my +fellow-citizens, because ye are more nearly allied to me. For be +well assured, this the deity commands. And I think that no greater +good has ever befallen you in the city than my zeal for the service +of the god. For I go about doing nothing else than persuading you, +both young and old, to take no care either for the body, or for +riches, prior to or so much as for the soul, how it may be made +most perfect, telling you that virtue does not spring from riches, +but riches and all other human blessings, both private and public, +from virtue. If, then, by saying these things, I corrupt the youth, +these things must be mischievous; but if any one says that I speak +other things than these, he misleads you.<a id="footnotetag4" name= +"footnotetag4" href="#footnote4"><sup>4</sup></a> Therefore I must +say, O Athenians! either yield to Anytus, or do not, either dismiss +me or not, since I shall not act otherwise, even though I must die +many deaths.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec18" name= +"apology_sec18">18</a>. Murmur not, O Athenians! but continue to +attend to my request, not to murmur at what I say, but to listen, +for, as I think, you will derive benefit from listening. For I am +going to say other things to you, at which, perhaps, you will raise +a clamor; but on no account do so. Be well assured, then, if you +put me to death, being such a man as I say I am, you will not +injure me more than yourselves. For neither will Melitus nor Anytus +harm me; nor have they the power; for I do not think that it is +possible for a better man to be injured by a worse. He may perhaps +have me condemned to death, or banished, or deprived of civil +rights; and he or others may perhaps consider these as mighty +evils; I, how ever, do not consider them so, but that it is much +more so to do what he is now doing, to endeavor to put a man to +death unjustly. Now, therefore, O Athenians! <a class='pagenumber' +name='page33' id='page33'></a>I am far from making a defense on my +behalf, as any one might think, but I do so on your own behalf, +lest by condemning me you should offend at all with respect to the +gift of the deity to you. For, if you should put me to death, you +will not easily find such another, though it may be ridiculous to +say so, altogether attached by the deity to this city as to a +powerful and generous horse, somewhat sluggish from his size, and +requiring to be roused by a gad-fly; so the deity appears to have +united me, being such a person as I am, to the city, that I may +rouse you, and persuade and reprove every one of you, nor ever +cease besetting you throughout the whole day. Such another man, O +Athenians! will not easily be found; therefore, if you will take my +advice, you will spare me. But you, perhaps, being irritated like +drowsy persons who are roused from sleep, will strike me, and, +yielding to Anytus, will unthinkingly condemn me to death; and then +you will pass the rest of your life in sleep, unless the deity, +caring for you, should send some one else to you. But that I am a +person who has been given by the deity to this city, you may +discern from hence; for it is not like the ordinary conduct of men, +that I should have neglected all my own affairs, and suffered my +private interest to be neglected for so many years, and that I +should constantly attend to your concerns, addressing myself to +each of you separately, like a father, or elder brother, persuading +you to the pursuit of virtue. And if I had derived any profit from +this course, and had received pay for my exhortations, there would +have been some reason for my conduct; but now you see yourselves +that my accusers, who have so shamelessly calumniated me in +everything else, have not had the impudence to charge me with this, +and to bring witnesses to prove that I ever either exacted or +demanded any reward. And I think I <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page34' id='page34'></a>produce a sufficient proof that I speak +the truth, namely, my poverty.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec19" name= +"apology_sec19">19</a>. Perhaps, however, it may appear absurd that +I, going about, thus advise you in private and make myself busy, +but never venture to present myself in public before your +assemblies and give advice to the city. The cause of this is that +which you have often and in many places heard me mention; because I +am moved by a certain divine and spiritual influence, which also +Melitus, through mockery, has set out in the indictment. This began +with me from childhood, being a kind of voice which, when present, +always diverts me from what I am about to do, but never urges me +on. This it is which opposed my meddling in public politics; and it +appears to me to have opposed me very properly. For be well +assured, O Athenians! if I had long since attempted to intermeddle +with politics, I should have perished long ago, and should not have +at all benefited you or myself. And be not angry with me for +speaking the truth. For it is not possible that any man should be +safe who sincerely opposes either you, or any other multitude, and +who prevents many unjust and illegal actions from being committed +in a city; but it is necessary that he who in earnest contends for +justice, if he will be safe for but a short time, should live +privately, and take no part in public affairs.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec20" name= +"apology_sec20">20</a>. I will give you strong proofs of this, not +words, but what you value, facts. Hear, then, what has happened to +me, that you may know that I would not yield to any one contrary to +what is just, through fear of death, at the same time by not +yielding I must perish. I shall tell you what will be displeasing +and wearisome,<a id="footnotetag5" name="footnotetag5" href= +"#footnote5"><sup>5</sup></a> yet true. For I, O <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page35' id='page35'></a>Athenians! never bore +any other magisterial office in the city, but have been a senator: +and our Antiochean tribe happened to supply the Prytanes when you +chose to condemn in a body the ten generals who had not taken off +those that perished in the sea-fight, in violation of the law, as +you afterward all thought. At that time I alone of the Prytanes +opposed your doing anything contrary to the laws, and I voted +against you; and when the orators were ready to denounce me, and to +carry me before a magistrate, and you urged and cheered them on, I +thought I ought rather to meet the danger with law and justice on +my side, than through fear of imprisonment or death, to take part +with you in your unjust designs. And this happened while the city +was governed by a democracy. But when it became an oligarchy, the +Thirty, having sent for me with four others to the Tholus, ordered +us to bring Leon the Salaminian from Salamis, that he might be put +to death; and they gave many similar orders to many others, wishing +to involve as many as they could in guilt. Then, however, I showed, +not in word but in deed, that I did not care for death, if the +expression be not too rude, in the smallest degree; but that all my +care was to do nothing unjust or unholy. For that government, +strong as it was, did not so overawe me as to make me commit an +unjust action; but when we came out from the Tholus, the four went +to Salamis, and brought back Leon; but I went away home. And +perhaps for this I should have been put to death, if that +government had not been speedily broken up. And of this you can +have many witnesses.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec21" name= +"apology_sec21">21</a>. Do you think, then, that I should have +survived so <a class='pagenumber' name='page36' id= +'page36'></a>many years if I had engaged in public affairs, and, +acting as becomes a good man, had aided the cause of justice, and, +as I ought, had deemed this of the highest importance? Far from it, +O Athenians! nor would any other man have done so. But I, through +the whole of my life, if I have done anything in public, shall be +found to be a man, and the very same in private, who has never made +a concession to any one contrary to justice, neither to any other, +nor to any one of these whom my calumniators say are my disciples. +I, however, was never the preceptor of any one; but if any one +desired to hear me speaking, and to see me busied about my own +mission, whether he were young or old, I never refused him. Nor do +I discourse when I receive money, and not when I do not receive +any, but I allow both rich and poor alike to question me, and, if +any one wishes it, to answer me and hear what I have to say. And +for these, whether any one proves to be a good man or not, I cannot +justly be responsible, because I never either promised them any +instruction or taught them at all. But if any one says that he has +ever learned or heard anything from me in private which all others +have not, be well assured that he does not speak the truth.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec22" name= +"apology_sec22">22</a>. But why do some delight to spend so long a +time with me? Ye have heard, O Athenians! I have told you the whole +truth, that they delight to hear those closely questioned who think +that they are wise but are not; for this is by no means +disagreeable. But this duty, as I say, has been enjoined me by the +deity, by oracles, by dreams, and by every mode by which any other +divine decree has ever enjoined anything to man to do. These +things, O Athenians! are both true, and easily confuted if not +true. For if I am now corrupting some of the youths, and have +already corrupted others, it were fitting, surely, that if any of +them, <a class='pagenumber' name='page37' id='page37'></a>having +become advanced in life, had discovered that I gave them bad advice +when they were young, they should now rise up against me, accuse +me, and have me punished; or if they were themselves unwilling to +do this, some of their kindred, their fathers, or brothers, or +other relatives, if their kinsman have ever sustained any damage +from me, should now call it to mind. Many of them, however, are +here present, whom I see: first, Crito, my contemporary and +fellow-burgher, father of this Critobulus; then Lysanias of +Sphettus, father of this Æschines; again, Antiphon of +Cephisus, father of Epigenes. There are those others, too, whose +brothers maintained the same intimacy with me, namely, Nicostratus, +son of Theodotus, brother of Theodotus—Theodotus indeed is +dead, so that he could not deprecate his brother's +proceedings—and Paralus here, son of Demodocus, whose brother +was Theages; and Adimantus, son of Ariston, whose brother is this +Plato; and Æantodorus, whose brother is this Apollodorus. I +could also mention many others to you, some one of whom certainly +Melitus ought to have adduced in his speech as a witness. If, +however, he then forgot to do so, let him now adduce them; I give +him leave to do so, and let him say it, if he has anything of the +kind to allege. But, quite contrary to this, you will find, O +Athenians! all ready to assist me, who have corrupted and injured +their relatives, as Melitus and Anytus say. For those who have been +themselves corrupted might perhaps have some reason for assisting +me; but those who have not been corrupted, men now advanced in +life, their relatives, what other reason can they have for +assisting me, except that right and just one, that they know that +Melitus speaks falsely, and that I speak the truth.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec23" name= +"apology_sec23">23</a>. Well, then, Athenians, these are pretty +much the things I have to say in my defense, and others perhaps of +<a class='pagenumber' name='page38' id='page38'></a>the same kind. +Perhaps, however, some among you will be indignant on recollecting +his own case, if he, when engaged in a cause far less than this, +implored and besought the judges with many tears, bringing forward +his children in order that he might excite their utmost compassion, +and many others of his relatives and friends, whereas I do none of +these things, although I may appear to be incurring the extremity +of danger. Perhaps, therefore, some one, taking notice of this, may +become more determined against me, and, being enraged at this very +conduct of mine, may give his vote under the influence of anger. +If, then, any one of you is thus affected—I do not, however, +suppose that there is—but if there should be, I think I may +reasonably say to him: "I, too, O best of men, have relatives; for, +to make use of that saying of Homer, I am not sprung from an oak, +nor from a rock, but from men, so that I, too, O Athenians! have +relatives, and three sons, one now grown up, and two boys: I shall +not, however, bring any one of them forward and implore you to +acquit me." Why, then, shall I not do this? Not from contumacy, O +Athenians! nor disrespect toward you. Whether or not I am undaunted +at the prospect of death is another question; but, out of regard to +my own character, and yours, and that of the whole city, it does +not appear to me to be honorable that I should do any thing of this +kind at my age, and with the reputation I have, whether true or +false. For it is commonly agreed that Socrates in some respects +excels the generality of men. If, then, those among you who appear +to excel either in wisdom, or fortitude, or any other virtue +whatsoever, should act in such a manner as I have often seen some +when they have been brought to trial, it would be shameful, who +appearing indeed to be something, have conducted themselves in a +surprising manner, as thinking they should suffer something <a +class='pagenumber' name='page39' id='page39'></a>dreadful by dying, +and as if they would be immortal if you did not put them to death. +Such men appear to me to bring disgrace on the city, so that any +stranger might suppose that such of the Athenians as excel in +virtue, and whom they themselves choose in preference to themselves +for magistracies and other honors, are in no respect superior to +women. For these things, O Athenians! neither ought we to do who +have attained to any height of reputation, nor, should we do them, +ought you to suffer us; but you should make this manifest, that you +will much rather condemn him who introduces these piteous dramas, +and makes the city ridiculous, than him who quietly awaits your +decision.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec24" name= +"apology_sec24">24</a>. But, reputation apart, O Athenians! it does +not appear to me to be right to entreat a judge, or to escape by +entreaty; but one ought to inform and persuade him. For a judge +does not sit for the purpose of administering justice out of favor, +but that he may judge rightly, and he is sworn not to show favor to +whom he pleases, but that he will decide according to the laws. It +is, therefore, right that neither should we accustom you, nor +should you accustom yourselves, to violate your oaths; for in so +doing neither of us would act righteously. Think not then, O +Athenians! that I ought to adopt such a course toward you as I +neither consider honorable, nor just, nor holy, as well, by +Jupiter! on any other occasion, and now especially when I am +accused of impiety by this Melitus. For clearly, if I should +persuade you, and by my entreaties should put a constraint on you +who are bound by an oath, I should teach you to think that there +are no gods, and in reality, while making my defense, should accuse +myself of not believing in the gods. This, however, is far from +being the case; for I believe, O Athenians! as none of my accusers +do, and I leave it to you and <a class='pagenumber' name='page40' +id='page40'></a>to the deity to judge concerning me in such way as +will be best both for me and for you.</p> + +<p>[Socrates here concludes his defense, and, the votes being +taken, he is declared guilty by a majority of voices. He thereupon +resumes his address.]</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec25" name= +"apology_sec25">25</a>. That I should not be grieved, O Athenians! +at what has happened—namely, that you have condemned +me—as well many other circumstances concur in bringing to +pass; and, moreover this, that what has happened has not happened +contrary to my expectation; but I much rather wonder at the number +of votes on either side. For I did not expect that I should be +condemned by so small a number, but by a large majority; but now, +as it seems, if only three more votes had changed sides, I should +have been acquitted. So far as Melitus is concerned, as it appears +to me, I have been already acquitted; and not only have I been +acquitted, but it is clear to every one that had not Anytus and +Lycon come forward to accuse me, he would have been fined a +thousand drachmas, for not having obtained a fifth part of the +votes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec26" name= +"apology_sec26">26</a>. The man, then, awards me the penalty of +death. Well. But what shall I, on my part, O Athenians! award +myself? Is it not clear that it will be such as I deserve? What, +then, is that? Do I deserve to suffer, or to pay a fine? for that I +have purposely during my life not remained quiet, but neglecting +what most men seek after, money-making, domestic concerns, military +command, popular oratory, and, moreover, all the magistracies, +conspiracies, and cabals that are met with in the city, thinking +that I was in reality too upright a man to be safe if I took part +in such things, I therefore did not apply myself to those pursuits, +by attending to which I should have been of no service either to +you or to myself; but in order to confer the greatest benefit on +each of you privately, as I affirm, I thereupon applied myself to +that <a class='pagenumber' name='page41' id='page41'></a>object, +endeavoring to persuade every one of you not to take any care of +his own affairs before he had taken care of himself in what way he +may become the best and wisest, nor of the affairs of the city +before he took care of the city itself; and that he should attend +to other things in the same manner. What treatment, then, do I +deserve, seeing I am such a man? Some reward, O Athenians! if, at +least, I am to be estimated according to my real deserts; and, +moreover, such a reward as would be suitable to me. What, then, is +suitable to a poor man, a benefactor, and who has need of leisure +in order to give you good advice? There is nothing so suitable, O +Athenians! as that such a man should be maintained in the +Prytaneum, and this much more than if one of you had been +victorious at the Olympic games in a horserace, or in the two or +four horsed chariot race: for such a one makes you appear to be +happy, but I, to be so; and he does not need support, but I do. If, +therefore, I must award a sentence according to my just deserts, I +award this, maintenance in the Prytaneum.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec27" name= +"apology_sec27">27</a>. Perhaps, however, in speaking to you thus, +I appear to you to speak in the same presumptuous manner as I did +respecting commiseration and entreaties; but such is not the case, +O Athenians! it is rather this: I am persuaded that I never +designedly injured any man, though I can not persuade you of this, +for we have conversed with each other but for a short time. For if +there were the same law with you as with other men, that in capital +cases the trial should list not only one day, but many, I think you +would be persuaded; but it is not easy in a short time to do away +with, great calumnies. Being persuaded, then, that I have injured +no one, I am far from intending to injure myself, and of +pronouncing against myself that I am deserving of punishment, and +from awarding myself any thing of the kind. <a class='pagenumber' +name='page42' id='page42'></a>Through fear of what? lest I should +suffer that which Melitus awards me, of which I say I know not +whether it he good or evil? Instead of this, shall I choose what I +well know to be evil, and award that? Shall I choose imprisonment? +And why should I live in prison, a slave to the established +magistracy, the Eleven? Shall I choose a fine, and to be imprisoned +until I have paid it? But this is the same as that which I just now +mentioned, for I have not money to pay it. Shall I, then, award +myself exile? For perhaps you would consent to this award. I should +indeed be very fond of life, O Athenians! if I were so devoid of +reason as not to be able to reflect that you, who are my +fellow-citizens, have been unable to endure my manner of life and +discourses, but they have become so burdensome and odious to you +that you now seek to be rid of them: others, however, will easily +bear them. Far from it, O Athenians! A fine life it would be for me +at my age to go out wandering, and driven from city to city, and so +to live. For I well know that, wherever I may go, the youth will +listen to me when I speak, as they do here. And if I repulse them, +they will themselves drive me out, persuading the elders; and if I +do not repulse them, their fathers and kindred will banish me on +their account.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec28" name= +"apology_sec28">28</a>. Perhaps, however, some one will say, Can +you not, Socrates, when you have gone from us, live a silent and +quiet life? This is the most difficult thing of all to persuade +some of you. For if I say that that would be to disobey the deity, +and that, therefore, it is impossible for me to live quietly, you +would not believe me, thinking I spoke ironically. If, on the other +hand, I say that this is the greatest good to man, to discourse +daily on virtue, and other things which you have heard me +discussing, examining both myself and others, but that a life +without investigation is <a class='pagenumber' name='page43' id= +'page43'></a>not worth living for, still less would you believe me +if I said this. Such, however, is the case, as I affirm, O +Athenians! though it is not easy to persuade you. And at the same +time I am not accustomed to think myself deserving of any ill. If, +indeed, I were rich, I would amerce myself in such a sum as I +should be able to pay; for then I should have suffered no harm, but +now—for I can not, unless you are willing to amerce me in +such a sum as I am able to pay. But perhaps I could pay you a mina +of silver: in that sum, then, I amerce myself. But Plato here, O +Athenians! and Crito Critobulus, and Apollodorus bid me amerce +myself in thirty minæ, and they offer to be sureties. I +amerce myself, then, to you in that sum; and they will be +sufficient sureties for the money.</p> + +<p>[The judges now proceeded to pass the sentence, and condemned +Socrates to death; whereupon he continued:]</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec29" name= +"apology_sec29">29</a>. For the sake of no long space of time, O +Athenians! you will incur the character and reproach at the hands +of those who wish to defame the city, of having put that wise man, +Socrates, to death. For those who wish to defame you will assert +that I am wise, though I am not. If, then, you had waited for a +short time, this would have happened of its own accord; for observe +my age, that it is far advanced in life, and near death. But I say +this not to you all, but to those only who have condemned me to +die. And I say this, too, to the same persons. Perhaps you think, O +Athenians! that I have been convicted through the want of +arguments, by which I might have persuaded you, had I thought it +right to do and say any thing, so that I might escape punishment. +Far otherwise: I have been convicted through want indeed, yet not +of arguments, but of audacity and impudence, and of the inclination +to say such things to you as would have been most agreeable for you +to hear, <a class='pagenumber' name='page44' id='page44'></a>had I +lamented and bewailed and done and said many other things unworthy +of me, as I affirm, but such as you are accustomed to hear from +others. But neither did I then think that I ought, for the sake of +avoiding danger, to do any thing unworthy of a freeman, nor do I +now repent of having so defended myself; but I should much rather +choose to die, having so defended myself, than to live in that way. +For neither in a trial nor in battle is it right that I or any one +else should employ every possible means whereby he may avoid death; +for in battle it is frequently evident that a man might escape +death by laying down his arms, and throwing himself on the mercy of +his pursuers. And there are many other devices in every danger, by +which to avoid death, if a man dares to do and say every thing. But +this is not difficult, O Athenians! to escape death; but it is much +more difficult to avoid depravity, for it runs swifter than death. +And now I, being slow and aged, am overtaken by the slower of the +two; but my accusers, being strong and active, have been overtaken +by the swifter, wickedness. And now I depart, condemned by you to +death; but they condemned by truth, as guilty of iniquity and +injustice: and I abide my sentence, and so do they. These things, +perhaps, ought so to be, and I think that they are for the +best.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec30" name= +"apology_sec30">30</a>. In the next place, I desire to predict to +you who have condemned me, what will be your fate; for I am now in +that condition in which men most frequently prophesy—namely, +when they are about to die. I say, then, to you, O Athenians! who +have condemned me to death, that immediately after my death a +punishment will overtake you, far more severe, by Jupiter! than +that which you have inflicted on me. For you have done this, +thinking you should be freed from the necessity of giving an +account of your lives. The very contrary, however, as I affirm, +will happen to you. <a class='pagenumber' name='page45' id= +'page45'></a>Your accusers will be more numerous, whom I have now +restrained, though you did not perceive it; and they will be more +severe, inasmuch as they are younger, and you will be more +indignant. For if you think that by putting men to death you will +restrain any one from upbraiding you because you do not live well, +you are much mistaken; for this method of escape is neither +possible nor honorable; but that other is most honorable and most +easy, not to put a check upon others, but for a man to take heed to +himself how he may be most perfect. Having predicted thus much to +those of you who have condemned me, I take my leave of you.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec31" name= +"apology_sec31">31</a>. But with you who have voted for my +acquittal I would gladly hold converse on what has now taken place, +while the magistrates are busy, and I am not yet carried to the +place where I must die. Stay with me, then, so long, O Athenians! +for nothing hinders our conversing with each other, while we are +permitted to do so; for I wish to make known to you, as being my +friends, the meaning of that which has just now befallen me. To me, +then, O my judges! and in calling you judges I call you +rightly—a strange thing has happened. For the wonted +prophetic voice of my guardian deity on every former occasion, even +in the most trifling affairs, opposed me if I was about to do any +thing wrong; but now that has befallen me which ye yourselves +behold, and which any one would think, and which is supposed to be +the extremity of evil; yet neither when I departed from home in the +morning did the warning of the god oppose me, nor when I came up +here to the place of trial, nor in my address when I was about to +say any thing; yet on other occasions it has frequently restrained +me in the midst of speaking. But now it has never, throughout this +proceeding, opposed me, either in what I did or said. What, then, +do I suppose to be the cause of this? I will tell you: what <a +class='pagenumber' name='page46' id='page46'></a>has befallen me +appears to be a blessing; and it is impossible that we think +rightly who suppose that death is an evil. A great proof of this to +me is the fact that it is impossible but that the accustomed signal +should have opposed me, unless I had been about to meet with some +good.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec32" name= +"apology_sec32">32</a>. Moreover, we may hence conclude that there +is great hope that death is a blessing. For to die is one of two +things: for either the dead may be annihilated, and have no +sensation of any thing whatever; or, as it is said, there are a +certain change and passage of the soul from one place to another. +And if it is a privation of all sensation, as it were a sleep in +which the sleeper has no dream, death would be a wonderful gain. +For I think that if any one, having selected a night in which he +slept so soundly as not to have had a dream, and having compared +this night with all the other nights and days of his life, should +be required, on consideration, to say how many days and nights he +had passed better and more pleasantly than this night throughout +his life, I think that not only a private person, but even the +great king himself, would find them easy to number, in comparison +with other days and nights. If, therefore, death is a thing of this +kind, I say it is a gain; for thus all futurity appears to be +nothing more than one night. But if, on the other hand, death is a +removal from hence to another place, and what is said be true, that +all the dead are there, what greater blessing can there be than +this, my judges? For if, on arriving at Hades, released from these +who pretend to be judges, one shall find those who are true judges, +and who are said to judge there, Minos and Rhadamanthus, +Æacus and Triptolemus, and such others of the demi-gods as +were just during their own life, would this be a sad removal? At +what price would you not estimate a conference with Orpheus and +Musæus, Hesiod <a class='pagenumber' name='page47' id= +'page47'></a>and Homer? I indeed should be willing to die often, if +this be true. For to me the sojourn there would be admirable, when +I should meet with Palamedes, and Ajax, son of Telamon, and any +other of the ancients who has died by an unjust sentence. The +comparing my sufferings with theirs would, I think, be no +unpleasing occupation. But the greatest pleasure would be to spend +my time in questioning and examining the people there as I have +done those here, and discovering who among them is wise, and who +fancies himself to be so, but is not. At what price, my judges, +would not any one estimate the opportunity of questioning him who +led that mighty army against Troy, or Ulysses, or Sisyphus, or ten +thousand others whom one might mention both men and +women—with whom to converse and associate, and to question +them, would be an inconceivable happiness? Surely for that the +judges there do not condemn to death; for in other respects those +who live there are more happy than those who are here, and are +henceforth immortal, if, at least, what is said be true.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="apology_sec33" name= +"apology_sec33">33</a>. You, therefore, O my judges! ought to +entertain good hopes with respect to death, and to meditate on this +one truth, that to a good man nothing is evil, neither while living +nor when dead, nor are his concerns neglected by the gods. And what +has befallen me is not the effect of chance; but this is clear to +me, that now to die, and be freed from my cares is better for me On +this account the warning in no way turned me aside; and I bear no +resentment toward those who condemned me, or against my accusers, +although they did not condemn and accuse me with this intention, +but thinking to injure me: in this they deserve to be blamed.</p> + +<p>Thus much, however, I beg of them. Punish my sons when they grow +up, O judges! paining them as I have pained you, if they appear to +you to care for riches or anything <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page48' id='page48'></a>else before virtue; and if they think +themselves to be something when they are nothing, reproach them as +I have done you, for not attending to what they ought, and for +conceiving themselves to be something when they are worth nothing. +If ye do this, both I and my sons shall have met with just +treatment at your hands.</p> + +<p>But it is now time to depart—for me to die, for you to +live. But which of us is going to a better state is unknown to +every one but God.</p> + +<h3>Footnotes</h3> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote1" name="footnote1" href= +"#footnotetag1">1</a>: Aristophanes.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote2" name="footnote2" href= +"#footnotetag2">2</a>: "Iliad," lib. xviii. ver. 94, etc.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote3" name="footnote3" href= +"#footnotetag3">3</a>: See the "Crito," sec. <a href= +"#crito_sec5">5</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote4" name="footnote4" href= +"#footnotetag4">4</a>: <span class= +"greek">Ουδεν +λεγει</span>, literally, "he says +nothing:" <span class="french">on se trompe, ou l'on vous +impose</span>, <span class="emphasis">Cousin</span>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote5" name="footnote5" href= +"#footnotetag5">5</a>: But for the authority of Stallbaum, I should +have translated <span class= +"greek">δικανικα</span> +"forensic;" that is, such arguments as an advocate would use in a +court of justice.</div> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="introduction"><a name='introduction_to_the_crito' id= +'introduction_to_the_crito'></a><a class='pagenumber' name='page49' +id='page49'></a> + +<h2>Introduction To The Crito.</h2> + +<p>It has been remarked by Stallbaum that Plato had a twofold +design in this dialogue—one, and that the primary one, to +free Socrates from the imputation of having attempted to corrupt +the Athenian youth; the other, to establish the principle that +under all circumstances it is the duty of a good citizen to obey +the laws of his country. These two points, however, are so closely +interwoven with each other, that the general principle appears only +to be illustrated by the example of Socrates.</p> + +<p>Crito was one of those friends of Socrates who had been present +at his trial, and had offered to assist in paying a fine, had a +fine been imposed instead of the sentence of death. He appears to +have frequently visited his friend in prison after his +condemnation; and now, having obtained access to his cell very +early in the morning, finds him composed in a quiet sleep. He +brings intelligence that the ship, the arrival of which would be +the signal for his death on the following day, is expected to +arrive forthwith, and takes occasion to entreat Socrates to make +his escape, the means of which were already prepared. Socrates +thereupon, having promised to follow the advice of Crito if, after +the matter had been fully discussed, it should appear to be right +to do so, proposes to consider the duty of a citizen toward his +country; and having established the divine principle that it is +wrong to return evil for evil, goes on to show that the obligations +of a citizen to his country are even more binding <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page50' id='page50'></a>than those of a child to +its parent, or a slave to his master, and that therefore it is his +duty to obey the established laws, at whatever cost to himself.</p> + +<p>At length Crito admits that he has no answer to make, and +Socrates resolves to submit himself to the will of Providence.</p> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="book"><a name='crito_or_the_duty_of_a_citizen' id= +'crito_or_the_duty_of_a_citizen'></a><a class='pagenumber' name= +'page51' id='page51'></a> + +<h2>Crito;<br> + Or,<br> + The Duty Of A Citizen.</h2> + +<p>SOCRATES, CRITO.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec1" name= +"crito_sec1"></a><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Why have +you come at this hour, Crito? Is it not very early?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It is.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> About what time?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Scarce day-break.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> I wonder how the keeper +of the prison came to admit you.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> He is familiar with me, +Socrates, from my having frequently come hither; and he is under +some obligations to me.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Have you just now come, +or some time since?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> A considerable time +since.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Why, then, did you not +wake me at once, instead of sitting down by me in silence?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> By Jupiter! Socrates, I +should not myself like to be so long awake, and in such affliction. +But I have been for some time wondering at you, perceiving how +sweetly you slept; and I purposely did not awake you, that you +might pass your time as pleasantly as possible. And, indeed, I <a +class='pagenumber' name='page52' id='page52'></a>have often before +throughout your whole life considered you happy in your +disposition, but far more so in the present calamity, seeing how +easily and meekly you bear it.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> However, Crito, it would +be disconsonant for a man at my time of life to repine because he +must needs die.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> But others, Socrates, at +your age have been involved in similar calamities, yet their age +has not hindered their repining at their present fortune.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> So it is. But why did you +come so early?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Bringing sad tidings, +Socrates, not sad to you, as it appears, but to me, and all your +friends, sad and heavy, and which I, I think, shall bear worst of +all.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> What tidings? Has the +ship<a id="footnotetag6" name="footnotetag6" href= +"#footnote6"><sup>6</sup></a> arrived from Delos, on the arrival of +which I must die?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It has not yet arrived, +but it appears to me that it will come to-day, from what certain +persons report who have come from Sunium,<a id="footnotetag7" name= +"footnotetag7" href="#footnote7"><sup>7</sup></a> and left it +there. It is clear, therefore, from these messengers, that it will +come to day, and consequently it will be necessary, Socrates, for +you to die to-morrow.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec2" name= +"crito_sec2">2</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> But with +good fortune, Crito, and if so it please the gods, so be it. I do +not think, however, that it will come to day.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Whence do you form this +conjecture?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> I will tell you. I must +die on the day after that on which the ship arrives.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> So they say<a id= +"footnotetag8" name="footnotetag8" href= +"#footnote8"><sup>8</sup></a> who have the control of these +things.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> I do not think, then, +that it will come to-day, but to-morrow. I conjecture this from a +dream which I had <a class='pagenumber' name='page53' id= +'page53'></a>this very night, not long ago, and you seem very +opportunely to have refrained from waking me.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> But what was this +dream?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> A beautiful and majestic +woman, clad in white garments seemed to approach me, and to call to +me and say, "Socrates, three days hence you will reach fertile +Pythia"<a id="footnotetag9" name="footnotetag9" href= +"#footnote9"><sup>9</sup></a>.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> What a strange dream, +Socrates!</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Very clear, however, as +it appears to me, Crito.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec3" name= +"crito_sec3">3</a>. <span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Very much +so, as it seems. But, my dear Socrates, even now be persuaded by +me, and save yourself. For if you die, not only a single calamity +will befall me, but, besides being deprived of such a friend as I +shall never meet with again, I shall also appear to many who do not +know you and me well, when I might have saved you had I been +willing to spend my money, to have neglected to do so. And what +character can be more disgraceful than this—to appear to +value one's riches more than one's friends? For the generality of +men will not be persuaded that you were unwilling to depart hence, +when we urged you to it.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> But why, my dear Crito, +should we care so much for the opinion of the many? For the most +worthy men, whom we ought rather to regard, will think that matters +have transpired as they really have.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Yet you see, Socrates, +that it is necessary to attend to the opinion of the many. For the +very circumstances of the present case show that the multitude are +able to effect not only the smallest evils, but even the greatest, +if any one is calumniated to them.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Would, O Crito that the +multitude could effect the greatest evils, that they might also +effect the greatest good, for then it would be well. But now they +can do neither; <a class='pagenumber' name='page54' id= +'page54'></a>for they can make a man neither wise nor foolish; but +they do whatever chances.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec4" name= +"crito_sec4">4</a>. <span class="speakername">Cri.</span> So let it +be, then. But answer me this, Socrates: are you not anxious for me +and other friends, lest, if you should escape from hence, informers +should give us trouble, as having secretly carried you off, and so +we should be compelled either to lose all our property, or a very +large sum, or to suffer something else besides this? For, if you +fear any thing of the kind, dismiss your fears; for we are +justified in running the risk to save you—and, if need be, +even a greater risk than this. But be persuaded by me, and do not +refuse.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> I am anxious about this, +Crito, and about many other things.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Do not fear this, however; +for the sum is not large on receipt of which certain persons are +willing to save you, and take you hence. In the next place, do you +not see how cheap these informers are, so that there would be no +need of a large sum for them? My fortune is at your service, +sufficient, I think, for the purpose; then if, out of regard to me, +you do not think right to spend my money, these strangers here are +ready to spend theirs. One of them, Simmias the Theban, has brought +with him a sufficient sum for the very purpose. Cebes, too, is +ready, and very many others. So that, as I said, do not, through +fears of this kind, hesitate to save yourself, nor let what you +said in court give you any trouble, that if you went from hence you +would not know what to do with yourself. For in many places, and +wherever you go, men will love you; and if you are disposed to go +to Thessaly, I have friends there who will esteem you very highly, +and will insure your safety, so that no one in Thessaly will molest +you.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec5" name= +"crito_sec5">5</a>. Moreover, Socrates, you do not appear to me to +pursue <a class='pagenumber' name='page55' id='page55'></a>a just +course in giving yourself up when you might be saved; and you press +on the very results with respect to yourself which your enemies +would press, and have pressed, in their anxiety to destroy you. +Besides this, too, you appear to me to betray your own sons, whom, +when it is in your power to rear and educate them, you will +abandon, and, so far as you are concerned, they will meet with such +a fate as chance brings them, and, as is probable, they will meet +with such things as orphans are wont to experience in a state of +orphanage. Surely one ought not to have children, or one should go +through the toil of rearing and instructing them. But you appear to +me to have chosen the most indolent course; though you ought to +have chosen such a course as a good and brave man would have done, +since you profess to have made virtue your study through the whole +of your life; so that I am ashamed both for you and for us who are +your friends, lest this whole affair of yours should seem to be the +effect of cowardice on our part—your appearing to stand your +trial in the court, since you appeared when it was in your power +not to have done so, the very manner in which the trial was +conducted, and this last circumstance, as it were, a ridiculous +consummation of the whole business; your appearing to have escaped +from us through our indolence and cowardice, who did not save you; +nor did you save yourself, when it was practicable and possible, +had we but exerted ourselves a little. Think of these things, +therefore, Socrates, and beware, lest, besides the evil <span +class="emphasis">that will result</span>, they be disgraceful both +to you and to us; advise, then, with yourself; though, indeed, +there is no longer time for advising—your resolve should be +already made. And there is but one plan; for in the following night +the whole must be accomplished. If we delay, it will be impossible +and no longer practicable. By all means, <a class='pagenumber' +name='page56' id='page56'></a>therefore, Socrates, be persuaded by +me, and on no account refuse.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec6" name= +"crito_sec6">6</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> My dear +Crito, your zeal would be very commendable were it united with +right principle; otherwise, by how much the more earnest it is, by +so much is it the more sad. We must consider, therefore, whether +this plan should be adopted or not. For I not now only, but always, +am a person who will obey nothing within me but reason, according +as it appears to me on mature deliberation to be best. And the +reasons which I formerly professed I can not now reject, because +this misfortune has befallen me; but they appear to me in much the +same light, and I respect and honor them as before; so that if we +are unable to adduce any better at the present time, be assured +that I shall not give in to you, even though the power of the +multitude should endeavor to terrify us like children, by +threatening more than it does now, bonds and death, and +confiscation of property. How, therefore, may we consider the +matter most conveniently? First of all, if we recur to the argument +which you used about opinions, whether on former occasions it was +rightly resolved or not, that we ought to pay attention to some +opinions, and to others not; or whether, before it was necessary +that I should die, it was rightly resolved; but now it has become +clear that it was said idly for argument's sake, though in reality +it was merely jest and trifling. I desire then, Crito, to consider, +in common with you, whether it will appear to me in a different +light, now that I am in this condition, or the same, and whether we +shall give it up or yield to it. It was said, I think, on former +occasions, by those who were thought to speak seriously, as I just +now observed, that of the opinions which men entertain some should +be very highly esteemed and others not. By the gods! Crito, does +not this appear to you to be well said? For you, <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page57' id='page57'></a>in all human +probability, are out of all danger of dying to-morrow, and the +present calamity will not lead your judgment astray. Consider, +then; does it not appear to you to have been rightly settled that +we ought not to respect all the opinions of men, but some we +should, and others not? Nor yet the opinions of all men, but of +some we should, and of others not? What say you? Is not this +rightly resolved?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It is.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Therefore we should +respect the good, but not the bad?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Yes.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> And are not the good +those of the wise, and the bad those of the foolish?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> How can it be +otherwise?</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec7" name= +"crito_sec7">7</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Come, +then: how, again, were the following points settled? Does a man who +practices gymnastic exercises and applies himself to them, pay +attention to the praise and censure and opinion of every one, or of +that one man only who happens to be a physician, or teacher of the +exercises?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Of that one only.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> He ought, therefore, to +fear the censures and covet the praises of that one, but not those +of the multitude.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Clearly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> He ought, therefore, so +to practice and exercise himself, and to eat and drink, as seems +fitting to the one who presides and knows, rather than to all +others together.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It is so.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Well, then, if he +disobeys the one, and disregards his opinion and praise, but +respects that of the multitude and of those who know nothing, will +he not suffer some evil?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> How should he not?</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page58' id='page58'></a><span class= +"speakername">Socr.</span> But what is this evil? Whither does it +tend, and on what part of him that disobeys will it fall?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Clearly on his body, for +this it ruins.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> You say well. The case is +the same, too, Crito, with all other things, not to go through them +all. With respect then, to things just and unjust, base and +honorable, good and evil, about which we are now consulting, ought +we to follow the opinion of the multitude, and to respect it, or +that of one, if there is any one who understands, whom we ought to +reverence and respect rather than all others together? And if we do +not obey him, shall we not corrupt and injure that part of +ourselves which becomes better by justice, but is ruined by +injustice? Or is this nothing?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> I agree with you, +Socrates.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec8" name= +"crito_sec8">8</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Come, +then, if we destroy that which becomes better by what is wholesome, +but is impaired by what is unwholesome, through being persuaded by +those who do not understand, can we enjoy life when that is +impaired? And this is the body we are speaking of, is it not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Yes.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Can we, then, enjoy life +with a diseased and impaired body?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> By no means.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> But can we enjoy life +when that is impaired which injustice ruins but justice benefits? +Or do we think that to be of less value than the body, whatever +part of us it may be, about which injustice and justice are +concerned'</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> By no means.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> But of more value?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Much more.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> We must not then, my +excellent friend, so much regard what the multitude will say of us, +but what he will say who understands the just and the unjust, the +one, even <a class='pagenumber' name='page59' id='page59'></a>truth +itself. So that at first you did not set out with a right +principle, when you laid it down that we ought to regard the +opinion of the multitude with respect to things just and honorable +and good, and their contraries. How ever, some one may say, are not +the multitude able to put us to death?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> This, too, is clear, +Socrates, any one might say so.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> You say truly. But, my +admirable friend, this principle which we have just discussed +appears to me to be the same as it was before<a id="footnotetag10" +name="footnotetag10" href="#footnote10"><sup>10</sup></a>. And +consider this, moreover, whether it still holds good with us or +not, that we are not to be anxious about living but about living +well.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It does hold good.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> And does this hold good +or not, that to live well and Honorable and justly are the same +thing?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It does.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec9" name= +"crito_sec9">9</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> From +what has been admitted, then, this consideration arises, whether it +is just or not that I should endeavor to leave this place without +the permission of the Athenians. And should it appear to be just, +we will make the attempt, but if not, we will give it up. But as to +the considerations which you mention, of an outlay of money, +reputation, and the education of children, beware, Crito, lest such +considerations as these in reality belong to these multitudes, who +rashly put one to death, and would restore one to life, if they +could do so, without any reason at all. But we, since reason so +requires, must consider nothing else than what we just now +mentioned, whether we shall act justly in paying money and +contracting obligations to those <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page60' id='page60'></a>who will lead me hence, as well they who +lead me as we who are led hence, or whether, in truth, we shall not +act unjustly in doing all these things. And if we should appear in +so doing to be acting unjustly, observe that we must not consider +whether from remaining here and continuing quiet we must needs die, +or suffer any thing else, rather than whether we shall be acting +unjustly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> You appear to me to speak +wisely, Socrates, but see what we are to do.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Let us consider the +matter together, my friend, and if you have any thing to object to +what I say, make good your objection, and I will yield to you, but +if not, cease, my excellent friend, to urge upon me the same thing +so often, that I ought to depart hence against the will of the +Athenians. For I highly esteem your endeavors to persuade me thus +to act, so long as it is not against my will Consider, then, the +beginning of our inquiry, whether it is stated to your entire +satisfaction, and endeavor to answer the question put to you +exactly as you think right.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> I will endeavor to do +so.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec10" name= +"crito_sec10">10</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Say +we, then, that we should on no account deliberately commit +injustice, or may we commit injustice under certain circumstances, +under others not? Or is it on no account either good or honorable +to commit injustice, as we have often agreed on former occasions, +and as we just now said? Or have all those our former admissions +been dissipated in these few days, and have we, Crito, old men as +we are, been for a long time seriously conversing with each other +without knowing that we in no respect differ from children? Or does +the case, beyond all question, stand as we then determined? Whether +the multitude allow it or not, and whether we must suffer a more +severe or a milder punishment than this, still is injustice on +every account <a class='pagenumber' name='page61' id= +'page61'></a>both evil and disgraceful to him who commits it? Do we +admit this, or not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> We do admit it.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> On no account, therefore, +ought we to act unjustly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Surely not.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Neither ought one who is +injured to return the injury, as the multitude think, since it is +on no account right to act unjustly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It appears not.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> What, then? Is it right +to do evil, Crito, or not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> Surely it is not right, +Socrates.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> But what? To do evil in +return when one has been evil-entreated, is that right, or not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> By no means.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> For to do evil to men +differs in no respect from committing injustice.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> You say truly.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> It is not right, +therefore, to return an injury, or to do evil to any man, however +one may have suffered from him. But take care, Crito, that in +allowing these things you do not allow them contrary to your +opinion, for I know that to some few only these things both do +appear, and will appear, to be true. They, then, to whom these +things appear true, and they to whom they do not, have no sentiment +in common, and must needs despise each other, while they look to +each other's opinions. Consider well, then, whether you coincide +and think with me, and whether we can begin our deliberations from +this point—that it is never right either to do an injury or +to return an injury, or when one has been evil-entreated, to +revenge one's self by doing evil in return, or do you dissent from, +and not coincide in this principle? For so it appears to me, both +long since and now, but if you in any respect think otherwise, say +so and <a class='pagenumber' name='page62' id='page62'></a>inform +me. But if you persist in your former opinions, hear what +follows.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> I do persist in them, and +think with you. Speak on, then.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> I say next, then, or +rather I ask; whether when a man has promised to do things that are +just he ought to do them, or evade his promise?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> He ought to do them.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec11" name= +"crito_sec11">11</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> +Observe, then, what follows. By departing hence without the leave +of the city, are we not doing evil to some, and that to those to +whom we ought least of all to do it, or not? And do we abide by +what we agreed on as being just, or do we not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> I am unable to answer your +question, Socrates; for I do not understand it.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Then, consider it thus. +If, while we were preparing to run away, or by whatever name we +should call it, the laws and commonwealth should come, and, +presenting themselves before us, should say, "Tell me, Socrates, +what do you purpose doing? Do you design any thing else by this +proceeding in which you are engaged than to destroy us, the laws, +and the whole city, so far as you are able? Or do you think it +possible for that city any longer to subsist, and not be subverted, +in which judgments that are passed have no force, but are set aside +and destroyed by private persons?"—what should we say, Crito, +to these and similar remonstrances? For any one, especially an +orator, would have much to say on the violation of the law, which +enjoins that judgments passed shall be enforced. Shall we say to +them that the city has done us an injustice, and not passed a right +sentence? Shall we say this, or what else?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> This, by Jupiter! +Socrates.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec12" name= +"crito_sec12">12</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> What, +then, if the laws should say, "Socrates, <a class='pagenumber' +name='page63' id='page63'></a>was it not agreed between us that you +should abide by the judgments which the city should pronounce?" And +if we should wonder at their speaking thus, perhaps they would say, +"Wonder not, Socrates, at what we say, but answer, since you are +accustomed to make use of questions and answers. For, come, what +charge have you against us and the city, that you attempt to +destroy us? Did we not first give you being? and did not your +father, through us, take your mother to wife and beget you? Say, +then, do you find fault with those laws among us that relate to +marriage as being bad?" I should say, "I do not find fault with +them." "Do you with those that relate to your nurture when born, +and the education with which you were instructed? Or did not the +laws, ordained on this point, enjoin rightly, in requiring your +father to instruct you in music and gymnastic exercises?" I should +say, rightly. Well, then, since you were born, nurtured, and +educated through our means, can you say, first of all, that you are +not both our offspring and our slave, as well you as your +ancestors? And if this be so, do you think that there are equal +rights between us? and whatever we attempt to do to you, do you +think you may justly do to us in turn? Or had you not equal rights +with your father, or master, if you happened to have one, so as to +return what you suffered, neither to retort when found fault with, +nor, when stricken, to strike again, nor many other things of the +kind; but that with your country and the laws you may do so; so +that if we attempt to destroy you, thinking it to be just, you also +should endeavor, so far as you are able, in return, to destroy us, +the laws, and your country; and in doing this will you say that you +act justly—you who, in reality, make virtue your chief +object? Or are you so wise as not to know that one's country is +more honorable, venerable, and sacred, and more highly prized both +by <a class='pagenumber' name='page64' id='page64'></a>gods, and +men possessed of understanding, than mother and father, and all +other progenitors; and that one ought to reverence, submit to, and +appease one's country, when angry, rather than one's father; and +either persuade it or do what it orders, and to suffer quietly if +it bids one suffer, whether to be beaten, or put in bonds; or if it +sends one out to battle there to be wounded or slain, this must be +done; for justice so requires, and one must not give way, or +retreat, or leave one's post; but that both in war and in a court +of justice, and everywhere one must do what one's city and country +enjoin, or persuade it in such manner as justice allows; but that +to offer violence either to one's mother or father is not holy, +much less to one's country? What shall we say to these things, +Crito? That the laws speak the truth, or not?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> It seems so to me.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec13" name= +"crito_sec13">13</a>. <span class="speakername">Socr.</span> +"Consider, then, Socrates," the laws perhaps might say, "whether we +say truly that in what you are now attempting you are attempting to +do what is not just toward us. For we, having given you birth, +nurtured, instructed you, and having imparted to you and all other +citizens all the good in our power, still proclaim, by giving the +power to every Athenian who pleases, when he has arrived at years +of discretion, and become acquainted with the business of the +state, and us, the laws, that any one who is not satisfied with us +may take his property, and go wherever he pleases. And if any one +of you wishes to go to a colony, if he is not satisfied with us and +the city, or to migrate and settle in another country, none of us, +the laws, hinder or forbid him going whithersoever he pleases, +taking with him all his property. But whoever continues with us +after he has seen the manner in which we administer justice, and in +other respects govern the city, we now say that <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page65' id='page65'></a>he has in fact entered +into a compact with us to do what we order; and we affirm that he +who does not obey is in three respects guilty of +injustice—because he does not obey us who gave him being, and +because he does not obey us who nurtured him, and because, having +made a compact that he would obey us, he neither does so, nor does +he persuade us if we do any thing wrongly; though we propose for +his consideration, and do not rigidly command him to do what we +order, but leave him the choice of one of two things, either to +persuade us, or to do what we require, and yet he does neither of +these."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec14" name= +"crito_sec14">14</a>. "And we say that you, O Socrates! will be +subject to these charges if you accomplish your design, and that +not least of the Athenians, but most so of all." And if I should +ask, "For what reason?" they would probably justly retort on me by +saying that, among all the Athenians, I especially made this +compact with them. For they would say, "Socrates, we have strong +proof of this, that you were satisfied both with us and the city; +for, of all the Athenians, you especially would never have dwelt in +it if it had not been especially agreeable to you; for you never +went out of the city to any of the public spectacles, except once +to the Isthmian games, nor anywhere else, except on military +service, nor have you ever gone abroad as other men do, nor had you +ever had any desire to become acquainted with any other city or +other laws, but we and our city were sufficient for you; so +strongly were you attached to us, and so far did you consent to +submit to our government, both in other respects and in begetting +children in this city, in consequence of your being satisfied with +it. Moreover, in your very trial, it was in your power to have +imposed on yourself a sentence of exile, if you pleased, and might +then have done, with the consent of the city, <a class='pagenumber' +name='page66' id='page66'></a>what you now attempt against its +consent. Then, indeed, you boasted yourself as not being grieved if +you must needs die; but you preferred, as you said, death to exile. +Now, however, you are neither ashamed of those professions, nor do +you revere us, the laws, since you endeavor to destroy us, and you +act as the vilest slave would act, by endeavoring to make your +escape contrary to the conventions and the compacts by which you +engaged to submit to our government. First, then, therefore, answer +us this, whether we speak the truth or not in affirming that you +agreed to be governed by us in deed, though not in word?" What +shall we say to this, Crito? Can we do otherwise than assent?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> We must needs do so, +Socrates.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> "What else, then," they +will say, "are you doing but violating the conventions and compacts +which you made with us, though you did not enter into them from +compulsion or through deception, or from being compelled to +determine in a short time but during the space of seventy years, in +which you might have departed if you had been dissatisfied with us, +and the compacts had not appeared to you to be just? You, however, +preferred neither Lacedæmon nor Crete, which you several +times said are governed by good laws, nor any other of the Grecian +or barbarian cities; but you have been less out of Athens than the +lame and the blind, and other maimed persons. So much, it is +evident, were you satisfied with the city and us, the laws, beyond +the rest of the Athenians; for who can be satisfied with a city +without laws? But now will you not abide by your compacts? You +will, if you are persuaded by us, Socrates, and will not make +yourself ridiculous by leaving the city."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec15" name= +"crito_sec15">15</a>. "For consider, by violating these compacts +and offending against any of them, what good you will do to <a +class='pagenumber' name='page67' id='page67'></a>yourself or your +friends. For that your friends will run the risk of being +themselves banished, and deprived of the rights of citizenship, or +of forfeiting their property, is pretty clear. And as for yourself, +if you should go to one of the neighboring cities, either Thebes or +Megara, for both are governed by good laws, you will go there, +Socrates, as an enemy to their polity; and such as have any regard +for their country will look upon you with suspicion, regarding you +as a corrupter of the laws; and you will confirm the opinion of the +judges, so that they will appear to have condemned you rightly, for +whose is a corrupter of the laws will appear in all likelihood to +be a corrupter of youths and weak-minded men. Will you, then, avoid +these well-governed cities, and the best-ordered men? And should +you do so, will it be worth your while to live? Or will you +approach them, and have the effrontery to converse with them, +Socrates, on subjects the same as you did here—that virtue +and justice, legal institutions and laws, should be most highly +valued by men? And do you not think that this conduct of Socrates +would be very indecorous? You must think so. But you will keep +clear of these places, and go to Thessaly, to Crito's friends, for +there are the greatest disorder and licentiousness; and perhaps +they will gladly hear you relating how drolly you escaped from +prison, clad in some dress or covered with a skin, or in some other +disguise such as fugitives are wont to dress themselves in, having +so changed your usual appearance. And will no one say that you, +though an old man, with but a short time to live, in all +probability, have dared to have such a base desire of life as to +violate the most sacred laws? Perhaps not, should you not offend +any one. But if you should, you will hear, Socrates, many things +utterly unworthy of you. You will live, too, in a state of abject +<a class='pagenumber' name='page68' id='page68'></a>dependence on +all men, and as their slave. But what will you do in Thessaly +besides feasting, as if you had gone to Thessaly to a banquet? And +what will become of those discourses about justice and all other +virtues? But do you wish to live for the sake of your children, +that you may rear and educate them? What then? Will you take them +to Thessaly, and there rear and educate them, making them aliens to +their country, that they may owe you this obligation too? Or, if +not so, being reared here, will they be better reared and educated +while you are living, though not with them, for your friends will +take care of them? Whether, if you go to Thessaly, will they take +care of them, but if you go to Hades will they not take care of +them? If, however, any advantage is to be derived from those that +say they are your friends, we must think they will."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec16" name= +"crito_sec16">16</a>. "Then, O Socrates! be persuaded by us who +have nurtured you, and do not set a higher value on your children, +or on life, or on any thing else than justice, that, when you +arrive in Hades, you may have all this to say in your defense +before those who have dominion there. For neither here in this +life, if you do what is proposed, does it appear to be better, or +more just, or more holy to yourself, or any of your friends; nor +will it be better for you when you arrive there. But now you +depart, if you do depart, unjustly treated, not by us, the laws, +but by men; but should you escape, having thus disgracefully +returned injury for injury, and evil for evil, having violated your +own compacts and conventions which you made with us, and having +done evil to those to whom you least of all should have done +it—namely, yourself, your friends, your country, and +us—both we shall be indignant with you as long as you live, +and there our brothers, the laws in Hades, will not receive you +favorably knowing that you attempted, so far as you <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page69' id='page69'></a>were able, to destroy +us. Let not Crito, then, persuade you to do what he advises, rather +than we."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="crito_sec17" name= +"crito_sec17">17</a>. These things, my dear friend Crito, be +assured, I seem to hear as the votaries of Cybele<a id= +"footnotetag11" name="footnotetag11" href= +"#footnote11"><sup>11</sup></a> seem to hear the flutes. And the +sound of these words booms in my ear, and makes me incapable of +hearing any thing else. Be sure, then, so long as I retain my +present opinions, if you should say any thing contrary to these, +you will speak in vain. If, however, you think that you can prevail +at all, say on.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Cri.</span> But, Socrates, I have +nothing to say.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Socr.</span> Desist, then, Crito, and +let us pursue this course, since this way the deity leads us.</p> + +<h3>Footnotes</h3> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote6" name="footnote6" href= +"#footnotetag6">6</a>: See the Phædo sec <a href= +"#phaedo_sec1">1</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote7" name="footnote7" href= +"#footnotetag7">7</a>: A promontory at the southern extremity of +Attica</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote8" name="footnote8" href= +"#footnotetag8">8</a>: The Eleven</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote9" name="footnote9" href= +"#footnotetag9">9</a>: See Homer's "Iliad," 1 IX, v 363</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote10" name="footnote10" href= +"#footnotetag10">10</a>: That is to say, the principle which we had +laid down in former discussions that no regard is to be had to +popular opinion, is still found to hold good.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote11" name="footnote11" href= +"#footnotetag11">11</a>: The Corybantes, priests of Cybele, who in +their solemn festivals made such a noise with flutes that the +hearers could hear no other sound.</div> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="introduction"><a name='introduction_to_the_phaedo' id= +'introduction_to_the_phaedo'></a><a class='pagenumber' name= +'page70' id='page70'></a> + +<h2>Introduction To The Phædo.</h2> + +<p>This dialogue presents us with an account of the manner In which +Socrates spent the last day of his, life, and how he met his death. +The main subject is that of the soul's immortality, which Socrates +takes upon himself to prove with as much certainty as it is +possible for the human mind to arrive at. The question itself, +though none could be better suited to the occasion, arises simply +and naturally from the general conversation that precedes it.</p> + +<p>When his friends visit him in the morning for the purpose of +spending this his last day with him, they find him sitting up in +bed, and rubbing his leg, which had just been freed from bonds. He +remarks on the unaccountable alternation and connection between +pleasure and pain, and adds that Æsop, had he observed it, +would have made a fable from it. This remark reminds Cebes of +Socrates's having put some of Æsop's fables into metre since +his imprisonment, and he asks, for the satisfaction of the poet +Evenus, what has induced him to do so. Socrates explains his +reason, and concludes by bidding him tell Evenus to follow him as +soon as he can. Simmias expresses his surprise at this message, on +which Socrates asks, "Is not Evenus a philosopher?" and on the +question being answered in the affirmative, he says that he or any +philosopher would be willing to die, though perhaps he would not +commit violence on himself. This, again, seems a contradiction to +Simmias; but Socrates explains it by showing that our souls <a +class='pagenumber' name='page71' id='page71'></a>are placed in the +body by God, and may not leave it without his permission. Whereupon +Cebes objects that in that case foolish men only would wish to die, +and quit the service of the best of masters, to which Simmias +agrees. Socrates, therefore, proposes to plead his cause before +them, and to show that there is a great probability that after this +life he shall go into the presence of God and good men, and be +happy in proportion to the purity of his own mind.</p> + +<p>He begins<a id="footnotetag12" name="footnotetag12" href= +"#footnote12"><sup>12</sup></a> by stating that philosophy itself +is nothing else than a preparation for and meditation on death. +Death and philosophy have this in common: death separates the soul +from the body; philosophy draws off the mind from bodily things to +the contemplation of truth and virtue: for he is not a true +philosopher who is led away by bodily pleasures, since the senses +are the source of ignorance and all evil. The mind, therefore, is +entirely occupied in meditating on death, and freeing itself as +much as possible from the body. How, then, can such a man be afraid +of death? He who grieves at the approach of death can not be a true +lover of wisdom, but is a lover of his body. And, indeed, most men +are temperate through intemperance; that is to say, they abstain +from some pleasures that they may the more easily and permanently +enjoy others. They embrace only a shadow of virtue, not virtue +itself, since they estimate the value of all things by the +pleasures they afford. Whereas the philosopher purifies his mind +from all such things, and pursues virtue and wisdom for their own +sakes. This course Socrates himself has pursued to the utmost of +his ability, with what success he should shortly know; and on these +grounds he did not repine at leaving his friends in this world, +being persuaded that in another he should meet with good masters +and good friends.</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page72' id='page72'></a>Upon this +Cebes<a id="footnotetag13" name="footnotetag13" href= +"#footnote13"><sup>13</sup></a> says that he agrees with all else +that had been said, but can not help entertaining doubts of what +will become of the soul when separated from the body, for the +common opinion is that it is dispersed and vanishes like breath or +smoke, and no longer exists anywhere. Socrates, therefore, proposes +to inquire into the probability of the case, a fit employment for +him under his present circumstances.</p> + +<p>His first argument<a id="footnotetag14" name="footnotetag14" +href="#footnote14"><sup>14</sup></a> is drawn from the ancient +belief prevalent among men, that souls departing hence exist in +Hades, and are produced again from the dead. If this be true, it +must follow that our souls are there, for they could not be +produced again if they did not exist; and its truth is confirmed by +this, that it is a general law of nature that contraries are +produced from contraries—the greater from the less, strong +from weak, slow from swift, heat from cold, and in like manner life +from death, and vice versa. To explain this more clearly, he +proceeds to show that what is changed passes from one state to +another, and so undergoes three different states—first, the +actual state; then the transition; and, thirdly, the new state; as +from a state of sleep, by awaking to being awake. In like manner +birth is a transition from a state of death to life, and dying from +life to death; so that the soul, by the act of dying, only passes +to another state. If it were not so, all nature would in time +become dead, just as if people did not awake out of sleep all would +at last be buried in eternal sleep. Whence the conclusion is that +the souls of men are not annihilated by death.</p> + +<p>Cebes<a id="footnotetag15" name="footnotetag15" href= +"#footnote15"><sup>15</sup></a> agrees to this reasoning, and adds +that he is further convinced, of its truth by calling to mind an +argument used by Socrates on former occasions, that knowledge is <a +class='pagenumber' name='page73' id='page73'></a>nothing but +reminiscence; and if this is so, the soul must have existed, and +had knowledge, before it became united to the body.</p> + +<p>But in case Simmias should not yet be satisfied, Socrates<a id= +"footnotetag16" name="footnotetag16" href= +"#footnote16"><sup>16</sup></a> proceeds to enlarge on this, his +second argument, drawn from reminiscence. We daily find that we are +carried from the knowledge of one thing to another. Things +perceived by the eyes, ears, and other senses bring up the thought +of other things; thus the sight of a lyre or a garment reminds us +of a friend, and not only are we thus reminded of sensible objects, +but of things which are comprehended by the mind alone, and have no +sensitive existence. For we have formed in our minds an idea of +abstract equality, of the beautiful, the just, the good; in short, +of every thing which we say exists without the aid of the senses, +for we use them only in the perception of individual things; whence +it follows that the mind did not acquire this knowledge in this +life, but must have had it before, and therefore the soul must have +existed before.</p> + +<p>Simmias and Cebes<a id="footnotetag17" name="footnotetag17" +href="#footnote17"><sup>17</sup></a> both agree in admitting that +Socrates has proved the pre-existence of the soul, but insist that +he has not shown it to be immortal, for that nothing hinders but +that, according to the popular opinion, it may be dispersed at the +dissolution of the body. To which Socrates replies, that if their +former admissions are joined to his last argument, the immortality, +as well as the pre-existence, of the soul has been sufficiently +proved. For if it is true that any thing living is produced from +that which is dead, then the soul must exist after death, otherwise +it could not be produced again.</p> + +<p>However, to remove the apprehension that the soul may be +dispersed by a wind, as it were, Socrates proceeds, in his <a +class='pagenumber' name='page74' id='page74'></a>third argument,<a +id="footnotetag18" name="footnotetag18" href= +"#footnote18"><sup>18</sup></a> to examine that doubt more +thoroughly. What, then, is meant by being dispersed but being +dissolved into its parts? In order, therefore, to a thing being +capable of dispersion it must be compounded of parts. Now, there +are two kinds of things—one compounded, the other simple The +former kind is subject to change, the latter not, and can be +comprehended by the mind alone. The one is visible, the other +invisible; and the soul, which is invisible, when it employs the +bodily senses, wanders and is confused, but when it abstracts +itself from the body it attains to the knowledge of that which is +eternal, immortal, and unchangeable. The soul, therefore, being +uncompounded and invisible, must be indissoluble; that is to say, +immortal.</p> + +<p>Still Simmias and Cebes<a id="footnotetag19" name= +"footnotetag19" href="#footnote19"><sup>19</sup></a> are +unconvinced. The former objects that the soul, according to +Socrates's own showing, is nothing but a harmony resulting from a +combination of the parts of the body, and so may perish with the +body, as the harmony of a lyre does when the lyre itself is broken. +And Cebes, though he admits that the soul is more durable than the +body, yet objects that it is not, therefore, of necessity immortal, +but may in time wear out; and it is by no means clear that this is +not its last period.</p> + +<p>These objections produce a powerful effect on the rest of the +company; but Socrates, undismayed, exhorts them not to suffer +themselves to be deterred from seeking the truth by any +difficulties they may meet with; and then proceeds<a id= +"footnotetag20" name="footnotetag20" href= +"#footnote20"><sup>20</sup></a> to show, in a moment, the fallacy +of Simmias's objection. It was before admitted, he says, that the +soul existed before the body; but harmony is produced after the +lyre is formed, so that the two cases are totally different. And, +further, there are various degrees of harmony, but every soul is as +much a soul as any other. But, then, what will a person <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page75' id='page75'></a>who holds this doctrine, +that the soul is harmony, say of virtue and vice in the soul? Will +he call them another kind of harmony and discord? If so, he will +contradict himself; for it is admitted that one soul is not more or +less a soul than another, and therefore one can not he more or less +harmonized than another, and one could not admit of a greater +degree of virtue or vice than another; and indeed a soul, being +harmony, could not partake of vice at all, which is discord.</p> + +<p>Socrates, having thus satisfactorily answered the argument +adduced by Simmias, goes on to rebut that of Cebes,<a id= +"footnotetag21" name="footnotetag21" href= +"#footnote21"><sup>21</sup></a> who objected that the soul might in +time wear out. In order to do this, he relates that, when a young +man, he attempted to investigate the causes of all things, why they +exist and why they perish; and in the course of his researches, +finding the futility of attributing the existence of things to what +are called natural causes, he resolved on endeavoring to find out +the reasons of things. He therefore assumed that there are a +certain abstract beauty and goodness and magnitude, and so of all +other things; the truth of which being granted, he thinks he shall +be able to prove that the soul is immortal.</p> + +<p>This, then, being conceded by Cebes, Socrates<a id= +"footnotetag22" name="footnotetag22" href= +"#footnote22"><sup>22</sup></a> argues that every thing that is +beautiful is so from partaking of abstract beauty, and great from +partaking of magnitude, and little from partaking of littleness. +Now, it is impossible, he argues, that contraries can exist in the +same thing at the same time; for instance, the same thing can not +possess both magnitude and littleness, but one will withdraw at the +approach of the other; and not only so, but things which, though +not contrary to each other, yet always contain contraries within +themselves, can not co-exist; for instance, <a class='pagenumber' +name='page76' id='page76'></a>the number three has no contrary, yet +it contains within itself the idea of odd, which is the contrary of +even, and so three never can become even; in like manner, heat +while it is heat can never admit the idea of its contrary, cold. +Now, if this method of reasoning is applied to the soul, it will be +found to be immortal; for life and death are contraries, and never +can co-exist; but wherever the soul is, there is life: so that it +contains within itself that which is contrary to death, and +consequently can never admit of death; therefore it is +immortal.</p> + +<p>With this he closes his arguments in support of the soul's +immortality. Cebes owns himself convinced, but Simmias, though he +is unable to make any objection to the soundness of Socrates's +reasoning, can not help still entertaining doubts on the subject. +If, however, the soul is immortal, Socrates proceeds,<a id= +"footnotetag23" name="footnotetag23" href= +"#footnote23"><sup>23</sup></a> great need is there in this life to +endeavor to become as wise and good as possible. For if death were +a deliverance from every thing, it would be a great gain for the +wicked; but since the soul appears to be immortal, it must go to +the place suited to its nature. For it is said that each person's +demon conducts him to a place where he receives sentence according +to his deserts.</p> + +<p>He then<a id="footnotetag24" name="footnotetag24" href= +"#footnote24"><sup>24</sup></a> draws a fanciful picture of the +various regions of the earth, to which the good and the bad will +respectively go after death, and exhorts his friends to use every +endeavor to acquire virtue and wisdom in this life, "for," he adds, +"the reward is noble, and the hope great."</p> + +<p>Having thus brought his subject to a conclusion, Socrates +proposes to bathe himself, in order not to trouble others to wash +his dead body. Crito thereupon asks if he has any commands to give, +and especially how he would be buried, to which he, with his usual +cheerfulness, makes answer, "<a class='pagenumber' name='page77' +id='page77'></a>Just as you please, if only you can catch me;" and +then, smiling, he reminds them that after death he shall be no +longer with them, and begs the others of the party to be sureties +to Crito for his absence from the body, as they had been before +bound for his presence before his judges.</p> + +<p>After he had bathed, and taken leave of his children and the +women of his family the officer of the Eleven comes in to intimate +to him that it is now time to drink the poison. Crito urges a +little delay, as the sun had not yet set; but Socrates refuses to +make himself ridiculous by showing such a fondness for life. The +man who is to administer the poison is therefore sent for; and on +his holding out the cup, Socrates, neither trembling nor changing +color or countenance at all, but, as he was wont, looking +steadfastly at the man, asked if he might make a libation to any +one; and being told that no more poison than enough had been mixed, +he simply prayed that his departure from this to another world +might be happy, and then drank off the poison, readily and calmly. +His friends, who had hitherto with difficulty restrained +themselves, could no longer control the outward expressions of +grief, to which Socrates said, "What are you doing, my friends? I, +for this reason, chiefly, sent away the women, that they might not +commit any folly of this kind; for I have heard that it is right to +die with good omens. Be quiet, therefore, and bear up."</p> + +<p>When he had walked about for a while his legs began to grow +heavy, so he lay down on his back; and his body, from the feet +upward, gradually grew cold and stiff. His last words were, "Crito, +we owe a cock to Æsculapius; pay it, therefore, and do not +neglect it."</p> + +<p>"This," concludes Phædo, "was the end of our +friend—a man, as we may say, the best of all his time, that +we have known, and, moreover, the most wise and just."</p> + +<h3>Footnotes</h3> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote12" name="footnote12" href= +"#footnotetag12">12</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec21">21-39</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote13" name="footnote13" href= +"#footnotetag13">13</a>: Sec. <a href="#phaedo_sec39">39, +40</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote14" name="footnote14" href= +"#footnotetag14">14</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec40">40-46</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote15" name="footnote15" href= +"#footnotetag15">15</a>: Sec. <a href="#phaedo_sec47">47</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote16" name="footnote16" href= +"#footnotetag16">16</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec48">48-57</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote17" name="footnote17" href= +"#footnotetag17">17</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec55">55-59</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote18" name="footnote18" href= +"#footnotetag18">18</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec61">61-75</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote19" name="footnote19" href= +"#footnotetag19">19</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec76">76-84</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote20" name="footnote20" href= +"#footnotetag20">20</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec93">93-99</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote21" name="footnote21" href= +"#footnotetag21">21</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec100">100-112</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote22" name="footnote22" href= +"#footnotetag22">22</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec112">112-128</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote23" name="footnote23" href= +"#footnotetag23">23</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec129">129-131</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote24" name="footnote24" href= +"#footnotetag24">24</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec132">132-145</a>.</div> + +<hr> +</div> + +<div class="book"><a name='phaedo_or_the_immortality_of_the_soul' +id='phaedo_or_the_immortality_of_the_soul'></a><a class= +'pagenumber' name='page78' id='page78'></a> + +<h2>Phædo;<br> + Or,<br> + The Immortality Of The Soul.</h2> + +FIRST ECHECRATES, PHÆDO.<br> + THEN SOCRATES, APOLLODORUS, CEBES, SIMMIAS, AND CRITO. + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec1" name= +"phaedo_sec1"></a><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> Were you +personally present, Phædo, with Socrates on that day when he +drank the poison in prison, or did you hear an account of it from +some one else?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> I was there myself, +Echecrates.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> What, then, did he say +before his death, and how did he die? for I should be glad to hear: +for scarcely any citizen of Phlius<a id="footnotetag25" name= +"footnotetag25" href="#footnote25"><sup>25</sup></a> ever visits +Athens now, nor has any stranger for a long time come from thence +who was able to give us a clear account of the particulars, except +that he had died from drinking poison; but he was unable to tell us +any thing more.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec2" name= +"phaedo_sec2">2</a>. <span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> +And did you not hear about the trial—how it went off?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> Yes; some one told me +this; and I wondered that, <a class='pagenumber' name='page79' id= +'page79'></a>as it took place so long ago, he appears to have died +long afterward. What was the reason of this, Phædo?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> An accidental +circumstance happened in his favor, Echecrates; for the poop of the +ship which the Athenians send to Delos chanced to be crowned on the +day before the trial.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> But what is this ship?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> It is the ship, as +the Athenians say, in which Theseus formerly conveyed the fourteen +boys and girls to Crete, and saved both them and himself. They, +therefore, made a vow to Apollo on that occasion, as it is said, +that if they were saved they would every year dispatch a solemn +embassy to Delos; which, from that time to the present, they send +yearly to the god. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec3" name= +"phaedo_sec3">3</a>. When they begin the preparations for this +solemn embassy, they have a law that the city shall be purified +during this period, and that no public execution shall take place +until the ship has reached Delos, and returned to Athens; and this +occasionally takes a long time, when the winds happen to impede +their passage. The commencement of the embassy is when the priest +of Apollo has crowned the poop of the ship. And this was done, as I +said, on the day before the trial: on this account Socrates had a +long interval in prison between the trial and his death.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec4" name= +"phaedo_sec4">4</a>. <span class="speakername">Ech.</span> And +what, Phædo, were the circumstances of his death? What was +said and done? and who of his friends were with him? or would not +the magistrates allow them to be present, but did he die destitute +of friends?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> By no means; but +some, indeed several, were present.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> Take the trouble, then, to +relate to me all the particulars as clearly as you can, unless you +have any pressing business.</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page80' id='page80'></a><span class= +"speakername">Phæd.</span> I am at leisure, and will endeavor +to give you a full account; for to call Socrates to mind, whether +speaking myself or listening to some one else, is always most +delightful to me.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec5" name= +"phaedo_sec5">5</a>. <span class="speakername">Ech.</span> And +indeed, Phædo, you have others to listen to you who are of +the same mind. However, endeavor to relate every thing as +accurately as you can.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> I was, indeed, +wonderfully affected by being present, for I was not impressed with +a feeling of pity, like one present at the death of a friend; for +the man appeared to me to be happy, Echecrates, both from his +manner and discourse, so fearlessly and nobly did he meet his +death: so much so, that it occurred to me that in going to Hades he +was not going without a divine destiny, but that when he arrived +there he would be happy, if any one ever was. For this reason I was +entirely uninfluenced by any feeling of pity, as would seem likely +to be the case with one present on so mournful an occasion; nor was +I affected by pleasure from being engaged in philosophical +discussions, as was our custom; for our conversation was of that +kind. But an altogether unaccountable feeling possessed me, a kind +of unusual mixture compounded of pleasure and pain together, when I +considered that he was immediately about to die. And all of us who +were present were affected in much the same manner, at one time +laughing, at another weeping—one of us especially, +Apollodorus, for you know the man and his manner.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> How should I not?</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec6" name= +"phaedo_sec6">6</a>. <span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> +He, then, was entirely overcome by these emotions; and I, too, was +troubled, as well as the others.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> But who were present, +Phædo?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> Of his +fellow-countrymen, this Apollodorus was present, and Critobulus, +and his father, Crito; moreover, <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page81' id='page81'></a>Hermogenes, Epigenes, Æschines and +Antisthenes; Ctesippus the Pæanian, Menexenus, and some +others of his countrymen, were also there: Plato, I think, was +sick.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> Were any strangers +present?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> Yes; Simmias, the +Theban, Cebes and Phædondes; and from Megara, Euclides and +Terpsion.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec7" name= +"phaedo_sec7">7</a>. <span class="speakername">Ech.</span> But +what! were not Aristippus and Cleombrotus present?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> No, for they were +said to be at Ægina.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> Was any one else +there?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> I think that these +were nearly all who were present.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Ech.</span> Well, now, what do you say +was the subject of conversation?</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> I will endeavor to +relate the whole to you from the beginning. On the preceding days I +and the others were constantly in the habit of visiting Socrates, +meeting early in the morning at the court house where the trial +took place, for it was near the prison. <a class="sectionnumber" +id="phaedo_sec8" name="phaedo_sec8">8</a>. Here, then, we waited +every day till the prison was opened, conversing with each other, +for it was not opened very early; but as soon as it was opened we +went in to Socrates, and usually spent the day with him. On that +occasion, however, we met earlier than usual; for on the preceding +day, when we left the prison in the evening, we heard that the ship +had arrived from Delos. We therefore urged each other to come as +early as possible to the accustomed place. Accordingly we came; and +the porter, who used to admit us, coming out, told us to wait, and +not to enter until he had called us. "For," he said, "the Eleven +are now freeing Socrates from his bonds, and announcing to him that +he must die to-day." But in no long time he returned, and bade us +enter.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec9" name= +"phaedo_sec9">9</a>. When we entered, we found Socrates just freed +from <a class='pagenumber' name='page82' id='page82'></a>his bonds, +and Xantippe, you know her, holding his little boy, and sitting by +him. As soon as Xantippe saw us she wept aloud, and said such +things as women usually do on such occasions—as, "Socrates, +your friends will now converse with you for the last time, and you +with them." But Socrates, looking towards Crito, said: "Crito, let +some one take her home." Upon which some of Crito's attendants led +her away, wailing and beating herself.</p> + +<p>But Socrates, sitting up in bed, drew up his leg, and rubbed it +with his hand, and as he rubbed it, said: "What an unaccountable +thing, my friends, that seems to be, which men call pleasure! and +how wonderfully is it related toward that which appears to be its +contrary, pain, in that they will not both be present to a man at +the same time! Yet if any one pursues and attains the one, he is +almost always compelled to receive the other, as if they were both +united together from one head."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec10" name= +"phaedo_sec10">10</a>. "And it seems tome," he said, "that if +Æsop had observed this he would have made a fable from it, +how the deity, wishing to reconcile these warring principles, when +he could not do so, united their heads together, and from hence +whomsoever the one visits the other attends immediately after; as +appears to be the case with me, since I suffered pain in my leg +before from the chain, but now pleasure seems to have +succeeded."</p> + +<p>Hereupon Cebes, interrupting him, said: "By Jupiter! Socrates, +you have done well in reminding me; with respect to the poems which +you made, by putting into metre those Fables of Æsop and the +hymn to Apollo, several other persons asked me, and especially +Evenus recently, with what design you made them after you came +here, whereas before you had never made any. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec11" name="phaedo_sec11">11</a>. If +therefore, you care at all that I should be able to answer Evenus, +when he asks me <a class='pagenumber' name='page83' id= +'page83'></a>again—for I am sure he will do so—tell me +what I must say to him."</p> + +<p>"Tell him the truth, then, Cebes," he replied, "that I did not +make them from a wish to compete with him, or his poems, for I knew +that this would be no easy matter; but that I might discover the +meaning of certain dreams, and discharge my conscience, if this +should happen to be the music which they have often ordered me to +apply myself to. For they were to the following purport: often in +my past life the same dream visited me, appearing at different +times in different forms, yet always saying the same +thing—'Socrates,' it said, 'apply yourself to and practice +music.' <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec12" name= +"phaedo_sec12">12</a>. And I formerly supposed that it exhorted and +encouraged me to continue the pursuit I was engaged in, as those +who cheer on racers, so that the dream encouraged me to continue +the pursuit I was engaged in—namely, to apply myself to +music, since philosophy is the highest music, and I was devoted to +it. But now since my trial took place, and the festival of the god +retarded my death, it appeared to me that if by chance the dream so +frequently enjoined me to apply myself to popular music, I ought +not to disobey it, but do so, for that it would be safer for me not +to depart hence before I had discharged my conscience by making +some poems in obedience to the dream. Thus, then, I first of all +composed a hymn to the god whose festival was present; and after +the god, considering that a poet, if he means to be a poet, ought +to make fables, and not discourses, and knowing that I was not +skilled in making fables, I therefore put into verse those Fables +of Æsop, which were at hand, and were known to me, and which +first occurred to me."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec13" name= +"phaedo_sec13">13</a>. "Tell this, then, to Evenus, Cebes, and bid +him farewell, and if he is wise, to follow me as soon as he can. +But I depart, as it seems, to-day; for so the Athenians order."</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page84' id='page84'></a>To this +Simmias said, "What is this, Socrates, which you exhort Evenus to +do? for I often meet with him; and, from what I know of him, I am +pretty certain that he will not at all be willing to comply with +your advice."</p> + +<p>"What, then," said he, "is not Evenus a philosopher?"</p> + +<p>"To me he seems to be so," said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"Then he will be willing," rejoined Socrates, "and so will every +one who worthily engages in this study. Perhaps, indeed, he will +not commit violence on himself; for that, they say, is not +allowable." And as he said this he let down his leg from the bed on +the ground, and in this posture continued during the remainder of +the discussion.</p> + +<p>Cebes then asked him, "What do you mean, Socrates, by saying +that it is not lawful to commit violence on one's self, but that a +philosopher should be willing to follow one who is dying?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec14" name= +"phaedo_sec14">14</a>. "What, Cebes! have not you and Simmias, who +have conversed familiarly with Philolaus<a id="footnotetag26" name= +"footnotetag26" href="#footnote26"><sup>26</sup></a> on this +subject, heard?"</p> + +<p>"Nothing very clearly, Socrates."</p> + +<p>"I, however, speak only from hearsay; what, then, I have heard I +have no scruple in telling. And perhaps it is most becoming for one +who is about to travel there to inquire and speculate about the +journey thither, what kind we think it is. What else can one do in +the interval before sunset?"</p> + +<p>"Why, then, Socrates, do they say that it is not allowable to +kill one's self? for I, as you asked just now, have heard both +Philolaus, when he lived with us, and several others, say that it +was not right to do this; but I never heard any thing clear upon +the subject from any one."</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page85' id='page85'></a><a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec15" name="phaedo_sec15">15</a>. +"Then, you should consider it attentively," said Socrates, "for +perhaps you may hear. Probably, however, it will appear wonderful +to you, if this alone, of all other things, is a universal truth,<a +id="footnotetag27" name="footnotetag27" href= +"#footnote27"><sup>27</sup></a> and it never happens to a man, as +is the case in all other things, that at some times and to some +persons only it is better to die than to live; yet that these men +for whom it is better to die—this probably will appear +wonderful to you—may not without impiety do this good to +themselves, but must await another benefactor."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec16" name= +"phaedo_sec16">16</a>. Then Cebes, gently smiling, said, speaking +in his own dialect,<a id="footnotetag28" name="footnotetag28" href= +"#footnote28"><sup>28</sup></a> "Jove be witness!"</p> + +<p>"And, indeed," said Socrates, "it would appear to be +unreasonable; yet still, perhaps, it has some reason on its side. +The maxim, indeed, given on this subject in the mystical +doctrines,<a id="footnotetag29" name="footnotetag29" href= +"#footnote29"><sup>29</sup></a> that we men are in a kind of +prison, and that we ought not to free ourselves from it and escape, +appears to me difficult to be understood, and not easy to +penetrate. This, however, appears to me, Cebes, to be well said: +that the gods take care of us, and that we men are one of their +possessions. Does it not seem so to you?"</p> + +<p>"It does," replied Cebes.</p> + +<p>"Therefore," said he, "if one of your slaves were to kill +himself, without your having intimated that you wished him to die, +should you not be angry with him, and should you not punish him if +you could?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Perhaps, then, in this point of view, it is not unreasonable to +assert that a man ought not to kill himself before the deity lays +him under a necessity of doing so, such as that now laid on +me."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec17" name= +"phaedo_sec17">17</a>. "This, indeed," said Cebes, "appears to be +probable. <a class='pagenumber' name='page86' id='page86'></a>But +what you said just now, Socrates, that philosophers should be very +willing to die, appears to be an absurdity, if what we said just +now is agreeable to reason—that it is God who takes care of +us, and that we are his property. For that the wisest men should +not be grieved at leaving that service in which they govern them +who are the best of all masters—namely, the gods—is not +consistent with reason; for surely he can not think that he will +take better care of himself when he has become free. But a foolish +man might perhaps think thus, that he should fly from his master, +and would not reflect that he ought not to fly from a good one, but +should cling to him as much as possible; therefore he would fly +against all reason; but a man of sense would desire to be +constantly with one better than himself. Thus, Socrates, the +contrary of what you just now said is likely to be the case; for it +becomes the wise to be grieved at dying, but the foolish to +rejoice."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec18" name= +"phaedo_sec18">18</a>. Socrates, on hearing this, appeared to me to +be pleased with the pertinacity of Cebes, and, looking toward us, +said, "Cebes, you see, always searches out arguments, and is not at +all willing to admit at once any thing one has said."</p> + +<p>Whereupon Simmias replied, "But, indeed, Socrates, Cebes appears +to me now to say something to the purpose; for with what design +should men really wise fly from masters who are better than +themselves, and so readily leave them? And Cebes appears to me to +direct his argument against you, because you so easily endure to +abandon both us and those good rulers, as you yourself confess, the +gods."</p> + +<p>"You speak justly," said Socrates, "for I think you mean that I +ought to make my defense to this charge, as if I were in a court of +justice."</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page87' id='page87'></a>Certainly," +replied Simmias.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec19" name= +"phaedo_sec19">19</a>. "Come, then," said he, "I will endeavor to +defend myself more successfully before you than before the judges. +For," he proceeded, "Simmias and Cebes, if I did not think that I +should go, first of all, among other deities who are both wise and +good, and, next, among men who have departed this life, better than +any here, I should be wrong in not grieving at death; but now, be +assured, I hope to go among good men, though I would not positively +assert it. That, however, I shall go among gods who are perfectly +good masters, be assured I can positively assert this, if I can any +thing of the kind. So that, on this account, I am not so much +troubled, but I entertain a good hope that something awaits those +who die, and that, as was said long since, it will be far better +for the good than the evil."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec20" name= +"phaedo_sec20">20</a>. "What, then, Socrates," said Simmias, "would +you go away keeping this persuasion to yourself, or would you +impart it to us? For this good appears to me to be also common to +us; and at the same time it will be an apology for you, if you can +persuade us to believe what you say."</p> + +<p>"I will endeavor to do so," he said. "But first let us attend to +Crito here, and see what it is he seems to have for some time +wished to say."</p> + +<p>"What else, Socrates," said Crito, "but what he who is to give +you the poison told me some time ago, that I should tell you to +speak as little as possible? For he says that men become too much +heated by speaking, and that nothing of this kind ought to +interfere with the poison; and that, otherwise, those who did so +were sometimes compelled to drink two or three times."</p> + +<p>To which Socrates replied, "Let him alone, and let him attend to +his own business, and prepare to give it me twice, or, if occasion +require, even thrice."</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page88' id='page88'></a><a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec21" name="phaedo_sec21">21</a>. "I +was almost certain what you would say," answered Crito, "but he has +been some time pestering me."</p> + +<p>"Never mind him," he rejoined.</p> + +<p>"But now I wish to render an account to you, my judges, of the +reason why a man who has really devoted his life to philosophy, +when he is about to die, appears to me, on good grounds, to have +confidence, and to entertain a firm hope that the greatest good +will befall him in the other world when he has departed this life. +How, then, this comes to pass, Simmias and Cebes, I will endeavor +to explain."</p> + +<p>"For as many as rightly apply themselves to philosophy seem to +have left all others in ignorance, that they aim at nothing else +than to die and be dead. If this, then, is true, it would surely be +absurd to be anxious about nothing else than this during their +whole life, but, when it arrives, to be grieved at what they have +been long anxious about and aimed at."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec22" name= +"phaedo_sec22">22</a>. Upon this, Simmias, smiling, said, "By +Jupiter! Socrates, though I am not now at all inclined to smile, +you have made me do so; for I think that the multitude, if they +heard this, would think it was very well said in reference to +philosophers, and that our countrymen particularly would agree with +you, that true philosophers do desire death, and that they are by +no means ignorant that they deserve to suffer it."</p> + +<p>"And, indeed, Simmias, they would speak the truth, except in +asserting that they are not ignorant; for they are ignorant of the +sense in which true philosophers desire to die, and in what sense +they deserve death, and what kind of death. But," he said, "let us +take leave of them, and speak to one another. Do we think that +death is any thing?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," replied Simmias.</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page89' id='page89'></a><a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec23" name="phaedo_sec23">23</a>. "Is +it any thing else than the separation of the soul from the body? +And is not this to die, for the body to be apart by itself +separated from the soul, and for the soul to subsist apart by +itself separated from the body? Is death any thing else than +this?"</p> + +<p>"No, but this," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Consider, then, my good friend, whether you are of the same +opinion as I; for thus, I think, we shall understand better the +subject we are considering. Does it appear to you to be becoming in +a philosopher to be anxious about pleasures, as they are called, +such as meats and drinks?"</p> + +<p>"By no means, Socrates," said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"But what? about the pleasures of love?"</p> + +<p>"Not at all."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec24" name= +"phaedo_sec24">24</a>. "What, then? Does such a man appear to you +to think other bodily indulgences of value? For instance, does he +seem to you to value or despise the possession of magnificent +garments and sandals, and other ornaments of the body except so far +as necessity compels him to use them?"</p> + +<p>"The true philosopher," he answered, "appears to me to despise +them."</p> + +<p>"Does not, then," he continued, "the whole employment of such a +man appear to you to be, not about the body, but to separate +himself from it as much as possible, and be occupied about his +soul?"</p> + +<p>"It does."</p> + +<p>"First of all, then, in such matters, does not the philosopher, +above all other men, evidently free his soul as much as he can from +communion with the body?"</p> + +<p>"It appears so."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec25" name= +"phaedo_sec25">25</a>. "And it appears, Simmias, to the generality +of men, that he who takes no pleasure in such things, and who does +<a class='pagenumber' name='page90' id='page90'></a>not use them, +does not deserve to live; but that he nearly approaches to death +who cares nothing for the pleasures that subsist through the +body."</p> + +<p>"You speak very truly."</p> + +<p>"But what with respect to the acquisition of wisdom? Is the body +an impediment, or not, if any one takes it with him as a partner in +the search? What I mean is this: Do sight and hearing convey any +truth to men, or are they such as the poets constantly sing, who +say that we neither hear nor see any thing with accuracy? If, +however, these bodily senses are neither accurate nor clear, much +less can the others be so; for they are all far inferior to these. +Do they not seem so to you?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec26" name= +"phaedo_sec26">26</a>. "When, then," said he, "does the soul light +on the truth? for when it attempts to consider any thing in +conjunction with the body, it is plain that it is then led astray +by it."</p> + +<p>"You say truly."</p> + +<p>"Must it not, then, be by reasoning, if at all, that any of the +things that really are become known to it?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"And surely the soul then reasons best when none of these things +disturb it—neither hearing, nor sight, nor pain, nor pleasure +of any kind; but it retires as much as possible within itself, +taking leave of the body; and, so far as it can, not communicating +or being in contact with it, it aims at the discovery of that which +is."</p> + +<p>"Such is the case."</p> + +<p>"Does not, then, the soul of the philosopher, in these cases, +despise the body, and flee from it, and seek to retire within +itself?"</p> + +<p>"It appears so."</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page91' id='page91'></a><a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec27" name="phaedo_sec27">27</a>. "But +what as to such things as these, Simmias? Do we say that justice +itself is something or nothing?"</p> + +<p>"We say it is something, by Jupiter!"</p> + +<p>"And that beauty and goodness are something?"</p> + +<p>"How not?"</p> + +<p>"Now, then, have you ever seen any thing of this kind with your +eyes?"</p> + +<p>"By no means," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Did you ever lay hold of them by any other bodily sense? But I +speak generally, as of magnitude, health, strength and, in a word, +of the essence of every thing; that is to say, what each is. Is, +then, the exact truth of these perceived by means of the body, or +is it thus, whoever among us habituates himself to reflect most +deeply and accurately on each several thing about which he is +considering, he will make the nearest approach to the knowledge of +it?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec28" name= +"phaedo_sec28">28</a>. "Would not he, then, do this with the utmost +purity, who should in the highest degree approach each subject by +means of the mere mental faculties, neither employing the sight in +conjunction with the reflective faculty, nor introducing any other +sense together with reasoning; but who, using pure reflection by +itself, should attempt to search out each essence purely by itself, +freed as much as possible from the eyes and ears, and, in a word, +from the whole body, as disturbing the soul, and not suffering it +to acquire truth and wisdom, when it is in communion with it. Is +not he the person, Simmias, if any one can, who will arrive at the +knowledge of that which is?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec29" name= +"phaedo_sec29">29</a>. "You speak with wonderful truth, Socrates," +replied Simmias.</p> + +<p>"Wherefore," he said, "it necessarily follows from all <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page92' id='page92'></a>this that some such +opinion as this should be entertained by genuine philosophers, so +that they should speak among themselves as follows: 'A by-path, as +it were, seems to lead us on in our researches undertaken by +reason,' because so long as we are encumbered with the body, and +our soul is contaminated with such an evil, we can never fully +attain to what we desire; and this, we say, is truth. For the body +subjects us to innumerable hinderances on account of its necessary +support; and, moreover, if any diseases befall us, they impede us +in our search after that which is; and it fills us with longings, +desires, fears, all kinds of fancies, and a multitude of +absurdities, so that, as it is said in real truth, by reason of the +body it is never possible for us to make any advances in wisdom. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec30" name="phaedo_sec30">30</a>. +For nothing else than the body and its desires occasion wars, +seditions, and contests; for all wars among us arise on account of +our desire to acquire wealth: and we are compelled to acquire +wealth on account of the body, being enslaved to its service; and +consequently on all these accounts we are hindered in the pursuit +of philosophy. But the worst of all is, that if it leaves us any +leisure, and we apply ourselves to the consideration of any +subject, it constantly obtrudes itself in the midst of our +researches, and occasions trouble and disturbance, and confounds us +so that we are not able, by reason of it, to discern the truth. It +has, then, in reality been demonstrated to us that if we are ever +to know any thing purely, we must be separated from the body, and +contemplate the things themselves by the mere soul; and then, as it +seems, we shall obtain that which we desire, and which we profess +ourselves to be lovers of—wisdom—when we are dead, as +reason shows, but not while we are alive. <a class="sectionnumber" +id="phaedo_sec31" name="phaedo_sec31">31</a>. For if it is not +possible to know any thing purely in conjunction with the body, one +of these two things must follow, either that we can never acquire +<a class='pagenumber' name='page93' id='page93'></a>knowledge, or +only after we are dead; for then the soul will subsist apart by +itself, separate from the body, but not before. And while we live +we shall thus, as it seems, approach nearest to knowledge, if we +hold no intercourse or communion at all with the body, except what +absolute necessity requires, nor suffer ourselves to be polluted by +its nature, but purify ourselves from it, until God himself shall +release us. And thus being pure, and freed from the folly of body, +we shall in all likelihood be with others like ourselves, and shall +of ourselves know the whole real essence, and that probably is +truth; for it is not allowable for the impure to attain to the +pure. Such things, I think, Simmias, all true lovers of wisdom must +both think and say to one another. Does it not seem so to you?"</p> + +<p>"Most assuredly, Socrates."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec32" name= +"phaedo_sec32">32</a>. "If this, then," said Socrates, "is true, my +friend, there is great hope for one who arrives where I am going, +there, if anywhere, to acquire that in perfection for the sake of +which we have taken so much pains during our past life; so that the +journey now appointed me is set out upon with good hope, and will +be so by any other man who thinks that his mind has been, as it +were, purified."</p> + +<p>"Certainly," said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"But does not purification consist in this, as was said in a +former part of our discourse, in separating as much as possible the +soul from the body, and in accustoming it to gather and collect +itself by itself on all sides apart from the body, and to dwell, so +far as it can, both now and hereafter, alone by itself, delivered, +as it were, from the shackles of the body?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec33" name= +"phaedo_sec33">33</a>. "Is this, then, called death, this +deliverance and separation of the soul from the body?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page94' id='page94'></a>Assuredly," +he answered.</p> + +<p>"But, as we affirmed, those who pursue philosophy rightly are +especially and alone desirous to deliver it; and this is the very +study of philosophers, the deliverance and separation of the soul +from the body, is it not?"</p> + +<p>"It appears so."</p> + +<p>"Then, as I said at first, would it not be ridiculous for a man +who has endeavored throughout his life to live as near as possible +to death, then, when death arrives, to grieve? would not this be +ridiculous?"</p> + +<p>"How should it not?"</p> + +<p>"In reality, then, Simmias," he continued, "those who pursue +philosophy rightly, study to die; and to them, of all men, death is +least formidable. Judge from this. Since they altogether hate the +body and desire to keep the soul by itself, would it not be +irrational if, when this comes to pass, they should be afraid and +grieve, and not be glad to go to that place where, on their +arrival, they may hope to obtain that which they longed for +throughout life? But they longed for wisdom, and to be freed from +association with that which they hated. <a class="sectionnumber" +id="phaedo_sec34" name="phaedo_sec34">34</a>. Have many of their +own accord wished to descend into Hades, on account of human +objects of affection, their wives and sons, induced by this very +hope of their seeing and being with those whom they have loved? and +shall one who really loves wisdom, and firmly cherishes this very +hope, that he shall nowhere else attain it in a manner worthy of +the name, except in Hades, be grieved at dying, and not gladly go +there? We must think that he would gladly go, my friend, if he be +in truth a philosopher; for he will be firmly persuaded of this, +that he will nowhere else than there attain wisdom in its purity; +and if this be so, would it not be very irrational, as I just now +said, if such a man were to be afraid of death?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page95' id='page95'></a>Very much +so, by Jupiter!" he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec35" name= +"phaedo_sec35">35</a>. "Would not this, then," he resumed, "be a +sufficient proof to you with respect to a man whom you should see +grieved when about to die, that he was not a lover of wisdom, but a +lover of his body? And this same person is probably a lover of +riches and a lover of honor, one or both of these."</p> + +<p>"It certainly is as you say," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Does not, then," he said, "that which is called fortitude, +Simmias, eminently belong to philosophers?"</p> + +<p>"By all means," he answered.</p> + +<p>"And temperance, also, which even the multitude call temperance, +and which consists in not being carried away by the passions, but +in holding them in contempt, and keeping them in subjection, does +not this belong to those only who most despise the body, and live +in the study of philosophy?"</p> + +<p>"Necessarily so," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec36" name= +"phaedo_sec36">36</a>. "For," he continued, "if you will consider +the fortitude and temperance of others, they will appear to you to +be absurd."</p> + +<p>"How so, Socrates?"</p> + +<p>"Do you know," he said, "that all others consider death among +the great evils?"</p> + +<p>"They do indeed," he answered.</p> + +<p>"Then, do the brave among them endure death when they do endure +it, through dread of greater evils?"</p> + +<p>"It is so."</p> + +<p>"All men, therefore, except philosophers, are brave through +being afraid and fear; though it is absurd that any one should be +brave through fear and cowardice."</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"But what, are not those among them who keep their <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page96' id='page96'></a>passions in subjection +affected in the same way? and are they not temperate through a kind +of intemperance? And although we may say, perhaps, that this is +impossible, nevertheless the manner in which they are affected with +respect to this silly temperance resembles this, for, fearing to be +deprived of other pleasures, and desiring them, they abstain from +some, being mastered by others. And though they call intemperance +the being governed by pleasures, yet it happens to them that, by +being mastered by some pleasures, they master others, and this is +similar to what was just now said, that in a certain manner they +become temperate through intemperance."</p> + +<p>"So it seems,"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec37" name= +"phaedo_sec37">37</a>. "My dear Simmias, consider that this is not +a right exchange for virtue, to barter pleasures for pleasures, +pains for pains, fear for fear, and the greater for the lesser, +like pieces of money, but that that alone is the right coin, for +which we ought to barter all these things, wisdom, and for this and +with this everything is in reality bought and sold Fortitude, +temperance and justice, and, in a word true virtue, subsist with +wisdom, whether pleasures and fears, and everything else of the +kind, are present or absent, but when separated from wisdom and +changed one for another, consider whether such virtue is not a mere +outline and in reality servile, possessing neither soundness nor +truth. But the really true virtue is a purification from all such +things, and temperance, justice, fortitude and wisdom itself, are a +kind of initiatory purification <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec38" name="phaedo_sec38">38</a>. And those who instituted +the mysteries for us appear to have been by no means contemptible, +but in reality to have intimated long since that whoever shall +arrive in Hades unexpiated and uninitiated shall lie in mud, but he +that arrives there purified and initiated shall dwell with the gods +'For there are,' say those <a class='pagenumber' name='page97' id= +'page97'></a>who preside at the mysteries, 'many wand-bearers, but +few inspired'. These last, in my opinion, are no other than those +who have pursued philosophy rightly that I might be of their +number. I have to the utmost of my ability left no means untried, +but have endeavored to the utmost of my power. But whether I have +endeavored rightly, and have in any respect succeeded, on arriving +there I shall know clearly, if it please God—very shortly, as +it appears to me."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec39" name= +"phaedo_sec39">39</a>. "Such, then, Simmias and Cebes," he added, +"is the defense I make, for that I, on good grounds, do not repine +or grieve at leaving you and my masters here, being persuaded that +there, no less than here, I shall meet with good masters and +friends. But to the multitude this is incredible If, however, I +have succeeded better with you in my defense than I did with the +Athenian judges, it is well."</p> + +<p>When Socrates had thus spoken, Cebes, taking up the discussion, +said "Socrates, all the rest appears to me to be said rightly, but +what you have said respecting the soul will occasion much +incredulity in many from the apprehension that when it is separated +from the body it no longer exists anywhere, but is destroyed and +perishes on the very day in which a man dies, and that immediately +it is separated and goes out from the body it is dispersed, and +vanishes like breath or smoke, and is no longer anywhere, since if +it remained anywhere united in itself, and freed from those evils +which you have just now enumerated, there would be an abundant and +good hope, Socrates, that what you say is true <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec40" name="phaedo_sec40">40</a>. But +this probably needs no little persuasion and proof, that the soul +of a man who dies exists, and possesses activity and +intelligence."</p> + +<p>"You say truly, Cebes," said Socrates, "but what shall we do? +Are you willing that we should converse on these points, whether +such is probably the case or not?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page98' id='page98'></a>Indeed," +replied Cebes, "I should gladly hear your opinion on these +matters."</p> + +<p>"I do not think," said Socrates, "that any one who should now +hear us, even though he were a comic poet, would say that I am +talking idly, or discoursing on subjects that do not concern me. If +you please, then, we will examine into it. Let us consider it in +this point of view, whether the souls of men who are dead exist in +Hades, or not. This is an ancient saying, which we now call to +mind, that souls departing hence exist there, and return hither +again, and are produced from the dead. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec41" name="phaedo_sec41">41</a>. And if this is so, that +the living are produced again from the dead, can there be any other +consequence than that our souls are there? for surely they could +not be produced again if they did not exist; and this would be +sufficient proof that these things are so, if it should in reality +be evident that the living are produced from no other source than +the dead. But if this is not the case, there will be need of other +arguments."</p> + +<p>"Certainly," said Cebes.</p> + +<p>"You must not, then," he continued, "consider this only with +respect to men, if you wish to ascertain it with greater certainty, +but also with respect to all animals and plants, and, in a word, +with respect to every thing that is subject to generation. Let us +see whether they are not all so produced, no otherwise than +contraries from contraries, wherever they have any such quality; +as, for instance, the honorable is contrary to the base, and the +just to the unjust, and so with ten thousand other things. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec42" name="phaedo_sec42">42</a>. +Let us consider this, then, whether it is necessary that all things +which have a contrary should be produced from nothing else than +their contrary. As, for instance, when any thing becomes greater, +is it not necessary that, from being previously smaller, it +afterward became greater?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page99' id='page99'></a>Yes."</p> + +<p>"And if it becomes smaller, will it not, from being previously +greater, afterward become smaller?"</p> + +<p>"It is so," he replied.</p> + +<p>"And from stronger, weaker? and from slower, swifter?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"What, then? If any thing becomes worse, must it not become so +from better? and if more just, from more unjust?"</p> + +<p>"How should it not?"</p> + +<p>"We have then," he said, "sufficiently determined this, that all +things are thus produced, contraries from contraries?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"What next? Is there also something of this kind in them; for +instance, between all two contraries a mutual twofold production, +from one to the other, and from that other back again? for between +a greater thing and a smaller there are increase and decrease, and +do we not accordingly call the one to increase, the other to +decrease?"</p> + +<p>"Yes," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec43" name= +"phaedo_sec43">43</a>. "And must not to be separated and +commingled, to grow cold and to grow warm, and every thing in the +same manner, even though sometimes we have not names to designate +them, yet in fact be everywhere thus circumstanced, of necessity, +as to be produced from each other, and be subject to a reciprocal +generation?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"What, then?" said Socrates, "has life any contrary, as waking +has its contrary, sleeping?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he answered.</p> + +<p>"What?"</p> + +<p>"Death," he replied.</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page100' id='page100'></a>Are not +these, then, produced from each other, since they are contraries; +and are not the modes by which they are produced two-fold +intervening between these two?"</p> + +<p>"How should it be otherwise?"</p> + +<p>"I then," continued Socrates, "will describe to you one pair of +the contraries which I have just now mentioned, both what it is and +its mode of production: and do you describe to me the other. I say +that one is to sleep, the other to awake; and from sleeping awaking +is produced, and from awaking sleeping, and that the modes of their +production are, the one to fall asleep, the other to be roused. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec44" name="phaedo_sec44">44</a>. +Have I sufficiently explained this to you or not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"Do you, then," he said, "describe to me in the same manner with +respect to life and death? Do you not say that life is contrary to +death?"</p> + +<p>"I do."</p> + +<p>"And that they are produced from each other?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"What, then, is produced from life?"</p> + +<p>"Death," he replied.</p> + +<p>"What, then," said he "is produced from death?"</p> + +<p>"I must needs confess," he replied, "that life is."</p> + +<p>"From the dead, then, O Cebes! living things and living men are +produced."</p> + +<p>"It appears so," he said.</p> + +<p>"Our souls, therefore," said Socrates, "exist in Hades."</p> + +<p>"So it seems."</p> + +<p>"With respect, then, to their mode of production, is not one of +them very clear? for to die surely is clear, is it not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"What, then, shall we do?" he continued; "shall we not <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page101' id='page101'></a>find a corresponding +contrary mode of production, or will nature be defective in this? +Or must we discover a contrary mode of production to dying?"</p> + +<p>"By all means," he said.</p> + +<p>"What is this?"</p> + +<p>"To revive."</p> + +<p>"Therefore," he proceeded, "if there is such a thing as to +revive, will not this reviving be a mode of production from the +dead to the living?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"Thus, then, we have agreed that the living are produced from +the dead, no less than the dead from the living; but, this being +the case, there appears to me sufficient proof that the souls of +the dead must necessarily exist somewhere, from whence they are +again produced."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec45" name= +"phaedo_sec45">45</a>. "It appears to me, Socrates," he said "that +this must necessarily follow from what has been admitted."</p> + +<p>"See now, O Cebes!" he said, "that we have not agreed on these +things improperly, as it appears to me; for if one class of things +were not constantly given back in the place of another, revolving, +as it were, in a circle, but generation were direct from one thing +alone into its opposite, and did not turn round again to the other, +or retrace its course, do you know that all things would at length +have the same form, be in the same state, and cease to be +produced?"</p> + +<p>"How say you?" he asked.</p> + +<p>"It is by no means difficult," he replied, "to understand what I +mean; if, for instance, there should be such a thing as falling +asleep, but no reciprocal waking again produced from a state of +sleep, you know that at length all things would show the fable of +Endymion to be a jest, and it would be thought nothing at all of, +because everything else would be in the same state as +he—namely, asleep. And if all <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page102' id='page102'></a>things were mingled together, but never +separated, that doctrine of Anaxagoras would soon be verified, 'all +things would be together.' <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec46" name="phaedo_sec46">46</a>. Likewise, my dear Cebes, +if all things that partake of life should die, and after they are +dead should remain in this state of death, and not revive again, +would it not necessarily follow that at length all things should be +dead, and nothing alive? For if living beings are produced from +other things, and living beings die, what could prevent their being +all absorbed in death?"</p> + +<p>"Nothing whatever, I think, Socrates," replied Cebes; "but you +appear to me to speak the exact truth."</p> + +<p>"For, Cebes," he continued, "as it seems to me, such undoubtedly +is the case, and we have not admitted these things under a +delusion, for it is in reality true that there is a reviving again, +that the living are produced from the dead, that the souls of the +dead exist, and that the condition of the good is better, and of +the evil worse."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec47" name= +"phaedo_sec47">47</a>. "And, indeed," said Cebes, interrupting him, +"according to that doctrine, Socrates, which you are frequently in +the habit of advancing, if it is true, that our learning is nothing +else than reminiscence, according to this it is surely necessary +that we must at some former time have learned what we now remember. +But this is impossible, unless our soul existed somewhere before it +came into this human form; so that from hence, also, the soul +appears to be something immortal."</p> + +<p>"But, Cebes," said Simmias, interrupting him, "what proofs are +there of these things? Remind me of them, for I do not very well +remember them at present."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec48" name= +"phaedo_sec48">48</a>. "It is proved," said Cebes, "by one +argument, and that a most beautiful one, that men, when questioned +(if one questions them properly) of themselves, describe all things +as they are, however, if they had not innate knowledge and <a +class='pagenumber' name='page103' id='page103'></a>right reason, +they would never be able to do this. Moreover, if one leads them to +diagrams, or any thing else of the kind, it is then most clearly +apparent that this is the case."</p> + +<p>"But if you are not persuaded in this way, Simmias," said +Socrates, "see if you will agree with us in considering the matter +thus. For do you doubt how that which is called learning is +reminiscence?"</p> + +<p>"I do not doubt," said Simmias; "but I require this very thing +of which we are speaking, to be reminded; and, indeed, from what +Cebes has begun to say, I almost now remember, and am persuaded; +nevertheless, however, I should like to hear now how you would +attempt to prove it."</p> + +<p>"I do it thus" he replied: "we admit, surely, that if any one be +reminded of any thing, he must needs have known that thing at some +time or other before."</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he said.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec49" name= +"phaedo_sec49">49</a>. "Do we, then, admit this also, that when +knowledge comes in a certain manner it is reminiscence? But the +manner I mean is this: if any one, upon seeing or hearing, or +perceiving through the medium of any other sense, some particular +thing, should not only know that, but also form an idea of +something else, of which the knowledge is not the same, but +different, should we not justly say that he remembered that of +which he received the idea?"</p> + +<p>"How mean you?"</p> + +<p>"For instance, the knowledge of a man is different from that of +a lyre."</p> + +<p>"How not?"</p> + +<p>"Do you not know, then, that lovers when they see a lyre, or a +garment, or any thing else which their favorite is accustomed to +use, are thus affected; they both recognize the lyre, and receive +in their minds the form of the person to whom the lyre belonged? +This is reminiscence: just as any <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page104' id='page104'></a>one, seeing Simmias, is often reminded +of Cebes, and so in an infinite number of similar instances."</p> + +<p>"An infinite number, indeed, by Jupiter!" said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"Is not, then," he said, "something of this sort a kind of +reminiscence, especially when one is thus affected with respect to +things which, from lapse of time, and not thinking of them, one has +now forgotten?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec50" name= +"phaedo_sec50">50</a>. "But what?" he continued. "Does it happen +that when one sees a painted horse or a painted lyre one is +reminded of a man, and that when one sees a picture of Simmias one +is reminded of Cebes?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"And does it not also happen that on seeing a picture of Simmias +one is reminded of Simmias himself?"</p> + +<p>"It does, indeed," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Does it not happen, then, according to all this, that +reminiscence arises partly from things like, and partly from things +unlike?"</p> + +<p>"It does."</p> + +<p>"But when one is reminded by things like, is it not necessary +that one should be thus further affected, so as to perceive +whether, as regards likeness, this falls short or not of the thing +of which one has been reminded?"</p> + +<p>"It is necessary," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Consider, then," said Socrates, "if the case is thus. Do we +allow that there is such a thing as equality? I do not mean of one +log with another, nor one stone with another, nor any thing else of +this kind, but something altogether different from all +these—abstract equality; do we allow that there is any such +thing, or not?"</p> + +<p>"By Jupiter! we most assuredly do allow it," replied +Simmias.</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page105' id='page105'></a><a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec51" name="phaedo_sec51">51</a>. "And +do we know what it is itself?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Whence have we derived the knowledge of it? Is it not from the +things we have just now mentioned, and that from seeing logs, or +stones, or other things of the kind, equal, we have from these +formed an idea of that which is different from these—for does +it not appear to you to be different? Consider the matter thus. Do +not stones that are equal, and logs sometimes that are the same, +appear at one time equal, and at another not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"But what? Does abstract equality ever appear to you unequal? or +equality inequality?"</p> + +<p>"Never, Socrates, at any time."</p> + +<p>"These equal things, then," he said, "and abstract equality, are +not the same?"</p> + +<p>"By no means, Socrates, as it appears."</p> + +<p>"However, from these equal things," he said, "which are +different from that abstract equality, have you not formed your +idea and derived your knowledge of it?"</p> + +<p>"You speak most truly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Is it not, therefore, from its being like or unlike them?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"But it makes no difference," he said. "When, therefore, on +seeing one thing, you form, from the sight of it, the notion of +another, whether like or unlike, this," he said, "must necessarily +be reminiscence."</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec52" name= +"phaedo_sec52">52</a>. "What, then, as to this?" he continued. "Are +we affected in any such way with regard to logs and the equal +things we have just now spoken of? And do they appear to us to be +equal in the same manner as abstract equality itself <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page106' id='page106'></a>is, or do they fall +short in some degree, or not at all, of being such as equality +itself is?"</p> + +<p>"They fall far short," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Do we admit, then, that when one, on beholding some particular +thing, perceives that it aims, as that which I now see, at being +like something else that exists, but falls short of it, and can not +become such as that is, but is inferior to it—do we admit +that he who perceives this must necessarily have had a previous +knowledge of that which he says it resembles, though +imperfectly?"</p> + +<p>"It is necessary."</p> + +<p>"What, then? Are we affected in some such way, or not, with +respect to things equal and abstract equality itself?"</p> + +<p>"Assuredly."</p> + +<p>"It is necessary, therefore, that we must have known abstract +equality before the time when, on first seeing equal things, we +perceived that they all aimed at resembling equality, but failed in +doing so."</p> + +<p>"Such is the case."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec53" name= +"phaedo_sec53">53</a>. "Moreover, we admit this too, that we +perceived this, and could not possibly perceive it by any other +means than the sight, or touch, or some other of the senses, for I +say the same of them all."</p> + +<p>"For they are the same, Socrates, so far as, our argument is +concerned."</p> + +<p>"However, we must perceive, by means of the senses, that all +things which come under the senses aim at that abstract equality, +and yet fall short of it; or how shall we say it is?"</p> + +<p>"Even so."</p> + +<p>"Before, then, we began to see, and hear, and use our other +senses, we must have had a knowledge of equality itself—what +<a class='pagenumber' name='page107' id='page107'></a>it is, if we +were to refer to it those equal things that come under the senses, +and observe that all such things aim at resembling that, but fall +far short of it."</p> + +<p>"This necessarily follows, Socrates, from what has been already +said."</p> + +<p>"But did we not, as soon as we were born, see and hear, and +possess our other senses?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"But, we have said, before we possessed these, we must have had +a knowledge of abstract equality?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"We must have had it, then, as it seems, before we were +born."</p> + +<p>"It seems so."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec54" name= +"phaedo_sec54">54</a>. "If, therefore, having this before we were +born, we were born possessing it, we knew, both before we were born +and as soon as we were born, not only the equal and the greater and +smaller, but all things of the kind; for our present discussion is +not more respecting equality than the beautiful itself, the good, +the just, and the holy, and, in one word, respecting every thing +which we mark with the seal of existence, both in the questions we +ask and the answers we give. So that we must necessarily have had a +knowledge of all these before we were born."</p> + +<p>"Such is the case."</p> + +<p>"And if, having once had it, we did not constantly forget it, we +should always be born with this knowledge, and should always retain +it through life. For to know is this, when one has got a knowledge +of any thing, to retain and not lose it; for do we not call this +oblivion, Simmias, the loss of knowledge?"</p> + +<p>"Assuredly, Socrates," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec55" name= +"phaedo_sec55">55</a>. "But if, having had it before we were born, +we lose <a class='pagenumber' name='page108' id='page108'></a>it at +our birth, and afterward, through exercising the senses about these +things, we recover the knowledge which we once before possessed, +would not that which we call learning be a recovery of our own +knowledge? And in saying that this is to remember, should we not +say rightly?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"For this appeared to be possible, for one having perceived any +thing, either by seeing or hearing, or employing any other sense, +to form an idea of something different from this, which he had +forgotten, and with which this was connected by being unlike or +like. So that, as I said, one of these two things must follow: +either we are all born with this knowledge, and we retain it +through life, or those whom we say learn afterward do nothing else +than remember, and this learning will be reminiscence."</p> + +<p>"Such, certainly, is the case, Socrates."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec56" name= +"phaedo_sec56">56</a>. "Which, then, do you choose, Simmias: that +we are born with knowledge, or that we afterward remember what we +had formerly known?"</p> + +<p>"At present, Socrates, I am unable to choose."</p> + +<p>"But what? Are you able to choose in this case, and what do you +think about it? Can a man who possesses knowledge give a reason for +the things that he knows, or not?"</p> + +<p>"He needs must be able to do so, Socrates," he replied.</p> + +<p>"And do all men appear to you to be able to give a reason for +the things of which we have just now been speaking?"</p> + +<p>"I wish they could," said Simmias; "but I am much more afraid +that at this time to-morrow there will no longer be any one able to +do this properly."</p> + +<p>"Do not all men, then, Simmias," he said, "seem to you to know +these things?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page109' id='page109'></a>By no +means."</p> + +<p>"Do they remember, then, what they once learned?"</p> + +<p>"Necessarily so."</p> + +<p>"When did our souls receive this knowledge? Not surely, since we +were born into the world."</p> + +<p>"Assuredly not."</p> + +<p>"Before, then?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"Our souls, therefore, Simmias, existed before they were in a +human form, separate from bodies, and possessed intelligence."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec57" name= +"phaedo_sec57">57</a>. "Unless, Socrates, we receive this knowledge +at our birth, for this period yet remains."</p> + +<p>"Be it so, my friend. But at what other time do we lose it? for +we are not born with it, as we have just now admitted. Do we lose +it, then, at the very time in which we receive it? Or can you +mention any other time?"</p> + +<p>"By no means, Socrates; I was not aware that I was saying +nothing to the purpose."</p> + +<p>"Does the case then stand thus with us, Simmias?" he proceeded: +"If those things which we are continually talking about really +exist, the beautiful, the good, and every such essence, and to this +we refer all things that come under the senses, as finding it to +have a prior existence, and to be our own, and if we compare these +things to it, it necessarily follows, that as these exist, so +likewise our soul exists even before we are born; but if these do +not exist, this discussion will have been undertaken in vain, is it +not so? And is there not an equal necessity both that these things +should exist, and our souls also, before we are born; and if not +the former, neither the latter?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec58" name= +"phaedo_sec58">58</a>. "Most assuredly, Socrates," said Simmias, +"there appears to me to be the same necessity; and the argument <a +class='pagenumber' name='page110' id='page110'></a>admirably tends +to prove that our souls exist before we are born, just as that +essence does which you have now mentioned. For I hold nothing so +clear to me as this, that all such things most certainly exist, as +the beautiful, the good, and all the rest that you just now spoke +of; and, so far as I am concerned, the case is sufficiently +demonstrated."</p> + +<p>"But how does it appear to Cebes?" said Socrates; "for it is +necessary to persuade Cebes too."</p> + +<p>"He is sufficiently persuaded, I think," said Simmias, "although +he is the most pertinacious of men in distrusting arguments. Yet I +think he is sufficiently persuaded of this, that our soul existed +before we were born. But whether, when we are dead, it will still +exist does not appear to me to have been demonstrated, Socrates," +he continued; "but that popular doubt, which Cebes just now +mentioned, still stands in our way, whether, when a man dies, the +soul is not dispersed, and this is the end of its existence. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec59" name="phaedo_sec59">59</a>. +For what hinders it being born, and formed from some other source, +and existing before it came into a human body, and yet, when it has +come, and is separated from this body, its then also dying itself, +and being destroyed?"</p> + +<p>"You say well, Simmias," said Cebes; "for it appears that only +one half of what is necessary has been demonstrated—namely, +that our soul existed before we were born; but it is necessary to +demonstrate further, that when we are dead it will exist no less +than before we were born, if the demonstration is to be made +complete."</p> + +<p>"This has been even now demonstrated, Simmias and Cebes," said +Socrates, "if you will only connect this last argument with that +which we before assented to, that every thing living is produced +from that which is dead. For if the soul exists before, and it is +necessary for it when it enters into life, and is born, to be +produced from nothing else than <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page111' id='page111'></a>death, and from being dead, how is it +not necessary for it also to exist after death, since it must needs +be produced again? <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec60" name= +"phaedo_sec60">60</a>. What you require, then, has been already +demonstrated. However, both you and Simmias appear to me as if you +wished to sift this argument more thoroughly, and to be afraid, +like children, lest, on the soul's departure from the body, the +winds should blow it away and disperse it, especially if one should +happen to die, not in a calm, but in a violent storm."</p> + +<p>Upon this Cebes, smiling, said, "Endeavor to teach us better, +Socrates, as if we were afraid, or rather not as if we were afraid, +though perhaps there is some boy<a id="footnotetag30" name= +"footnotetag30" href="#footnote30"><sup>30</sup></a> within us who +has such a dread. Let us, then, endeavor to persuade him not to be +afraid of death, as of hobgoblins."</p> + +<p>"But you must charm him every day," said Socrates, "until you +have quieted his fears."</p> + +<p>"But whence, Socrates," he said, "can we procure a skillful +charmer for such a case, now that you are about to leave us?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec61" name= +"phaedo_sec61">61</a>. "Greece is wide, Cebes," he replied, "and in +it surely there are skillful men. There are also many barbarous +nations, all of which you should search through, seeking such a +charmer, sparing neither money nor toil, as there is nothing on +which you can more seasonably spend your money. You should also +seek for him among yourselves; for perhaps you could not easily +find any more competent than yourselves to do this."</p> + +<p>"This shall be done," said Cebes; "but, if it is agreeable to +you, let us return to the point from whence we digressed."</p> + +<p>"It will be agreeable to me, for how should it not?"</p> + +<p>"You say well," rejoined Cebes.</p> + +<p>"We ought, then," said Socrates, "to ask ourselves some <a +class='pagenumber' name='page112' id='page112'></a>such question as +this: to what kind of thing it appertains to be thus +affected—namely, to be dispersed—and for what we ought +to fear, lest it should be so affected, and for what not. And after +this we should consider which of the two the soul is, and in the +result should either be confident or fearful for our soul."</p> + +<p>"You speak truly," said he.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec62" name= +"phaedo_sec62">62</a>. "Does it not, then, appertain to that which +is formed by composition, and is naturally compounded, to be thus +affected, to be dissolved in the same manner as that in which it +was compounded; and if there is any thing not compounded, does it +not appertain to this alone, if to any thing, not to be thus +affected?"</p> + +<p>"It appears to me to be so," said Cebes.</p> + +<p>"Is it not most probable, then, that things which are always the +same, and in the same state, are uncompounded, but that things +which are constantly changing, and are never in the same state, are +compounded?"</p> + +<p>"To me it appears so."</p> + +<p>"Let us return, then," he said, "to the subjects on which we +before discoursed. Whether is essence itself, of which we gave this +account that it exists, both in our questions and answers, always +the same, or does it sometimes change? Does equality itself, the +beautiful itself, and each several thing which is, ever undergo any +change, however small? Or does each of them which exists, being an +unmixed essence by itself, continue always the same, and in the +same state, and never undergo any variation at all under any +circumstances?"</p> + +<p>"They must of necessity continue the same and in the same state, +Socrates," said Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec63" name= +"phaedo_sec63">63</a>. "But what shall we say of the many beautiful +things, such as men, horses, garments, or other things of the kind, +<a class='pagenumber' name='page113' id='page113'></a>whether equal +or beautiful, or of all things synonymous with them? Do they +continue the same, or, quite contrary to the former, are they never +at any time, so to say, the same, either with respect to themselves +or one another?"</p> + +<p>"These, on the other hand," replied Cebes, "never continue the +same."</p> + +<p>"These, then, you can touch, or see, or perceive by the other +senses; but those that continue the same, you can not apprehend in +any other way than by the exercise of thought; for such things are +invisible, and are not seen?"</p> + +<p>"You say what is strictly true," replied Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec64" name= +"phaedo_sec64">64</a>. "We may assume, then, if you please," he +continued, "that there are two species of things; the one visible, +the other invisible?"</p> + +<p>"We may," he said.</p> + +<p>"And the invisible always continuing the same, but the visible +never the same?"</p> + +<p>"This, too," he said, "we may assume."</p> + +<p>"Come, then," he asked, "is there anything else belonging to us +than, on the one hand, body, and, on the other, soul?"</p> + +<p>"Nothing else," he replied.</p> + +<p>"To which species, then, shall we say the body is more like, and +more nearly allied?"</p> + +<p>"It is clear to everyone," he said, "that it is to the +visible."</p> + +<p>"But what of the soul? Is it visible or invisible?"</p> + +<p>"It is not visible to men, Socrates," he replied.</p> + +<p>"But we speak of things which are visible, or not so, to the +nature of men; or to some other nature, think you?"</p> + +<p>"To that of men."</p> + +<p>"What, then, shall we say of the soul—that it is visible, +or not visible?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page114' id='page114'></a>Not +visible."</p> + +<p>"Is it, then, invisible?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"The soul, then, is more like the invisible than the body; and +the body, the visible?"</p> + +<p>"It must needs be so, Socrates."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec65" name= +"phaedo_sec65">65</a>. "And did we not, some time since, say this +too, that the soul, when it employs the body to examine any thing, +either by means of the sight or hearing, or any other sense (for to +examine any thing by means of the body is to do so by the senses), +is then drawn by the body to things that never continue the same, +and wanders and is confused, and reels as if intoxicated, through +coming into contact with things of this kind?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"But when it examines anything by itself, does it approach that +which is pure, eternal, immortal, and unchangeable, and, as being +allied to it, continue constantly with it, so long as it subsists +by itself, and has the power, and does it cease from its wandering, +and constantly continue the same with respect to those things, +through coming into contact with things of this kind? And is this +affection of the soul called wisdom?"</p> + +<p>"You speak," he said, "in every respect, well and truly, +Socrates."</p> + +<p>"To which species of the two, then, both from what was before +and now said, does the soul appear to you to be more like and more +nearly allied?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec66" name= +"phaedo_sec66">66</a>. "Every one, I think, would allow, Socrates," +he replied, "even the dullest person, from this method of +reasoning, that the soul is in every respect more like that which +continues constantly the same than that which does not so."</p> + +<p>"But what as to the body?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page115' id='page115'></a>It is +more like the other."</p> + +<p>"Consider it also thus, that, when soul and body are together, +nature enjoins the latter to be subservient and obey, the former to +rule and exercise dominion. And, in this way, which of the two +appears to you to be like the divine, and which the mortal? Does it +not appear to you to be natural that the divine should rule and +command, but the mortal obey and be subservient?"</p> + +<p>"To me it does so."</p> + +<p>"Which, then, does the soul resemble?"</p> + +<p>"It is clear, Socrates, that the soul resembles the divine; but +the body, the mortal."</p> + +<p>"Consider, then, Cebes," said he, "whether, from all that has +been said, these conclusions follow, that the soul is most like +that which is divine, immortal, intelligent, uniform, indissoluble, +and which always continues in the same state; but that the body, on +the other hand, is most like that which is human, mortal, +unintelligent, multiform, dissoluble, and which never continues in +the same state. Can we say any thing against this, my dear Cebes, +to show that it is not so?"</p> + +<p>"We can not."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec67" name= +"phaedo_sec67">67</a>. "What, then? Since these things are so, does +it not appertain to the body to be quickly dissolved, but to the +soul, on the contrary, to be altogether indissoluble or nearly +so?"</p> + +<p>"How not?"</p> + +<p>"You perceive, however," he said, "that when a man dies, the +visible part of him, the body, which is exposed to sight, and which +we call a corpse, to which it appertains to be dissolved, to fall +asunder and be dispersed, does not immediately undergo any of these +affections, but remains for a considerable time, and especially so +if any one should die <a class='pagenumber' name='page116' id= +'page116'></a>with his body in full vigor, and at a corresponding +age;<a id="footnotetag31" name="footnotetag31" href= +"#footnote31"><sup>31</sup></a> for when the body has collapsed and +been embalmed, as those that are embalmed in Egypt, it remains +almost entire for an incredible length of time; and some parts of +the body, even though it does decay, such as the bones and nerves, +and every thing of that kind, are, nevertheless, as one may say, +immortal. Is it not so?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec68" name= +"phaedo_sec68">68</a>. "Can the soul, then, which is invisible, and +which goes to another place like itself, excellent, pure and +invisible, and therefore truly called the invisible world,<a id= +"footnotetag32" name="footnotetag32" href= +"#footnote32"><sup>32</sup></a> to the presence of a good and wise +God (whither, if God will, my soul also must shortly go)—can +this soul of ours, I ask, being such and of such a nature, when +separated from the body, be immediately dispersed and destroyed, as +most men assert? Far from it, my dear Cebes and Simmias. But the +case is much rather thus: if it is separated in a pure state, +taking nothing of the body with it, as not having willingly +communicated with it in the present life, but having shunned it, +and gathered itself within itself, as constantly studying this (but +this is nothing else than to pursue philosophy aright, and in +reality to study how to die easily), would not this be to study how +to die?"</p> + +<p>"Most assuredly."</p> + +<p>"Does not the soul, then, when in this state, depart to that +which resembles itself, the invisible, the divine, immortal and +wise? And on its arrival there, is it not its lot to be happy, free +from error, ignorance, fears, wild passions, and all the other +evils to which human nature is subject; <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page117' id='page117'></a>and, as is said of the initiated, does +it not in truth pass the rest of its time with the gods? Must we +affirm that it is so, Cebes, or otherwise?"</p> + +<p>"So, by Jupiter!" said Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec69" name= +"phaedo_sec69">69</a>. "But, I think, if it departs from the body +polluted and impure, as having constantly held communion with the +body, and having served and loved it, and been bewitched by it, +through desires and pleasures, so as to think that there is nothing +real except what is corporeal, which one can touch and see, and +drink and eat, and employ for sensual purposes; but what is dark +and invisible to the eyes, which is intellectual and apprehended by +philosophy, having been accustomed to hate, fear, and shun this, do +you think that a soul thus affected can depart from the body by +itself, and uncontaminated?"</p> + +<p>"By no means whatever," he replied.</p> + +<p>"But I think it will be impressed with that which is corporeal, +which the intercourse and communion of the body, through constant +association and great attention, have made natural to it."</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"We must think, my dear Cebes, that this is ponderous and heavy, +earthly and visible, by possessing which such a soul is weighed +down, and drawn again into the visible world through dread of the +invisible and of Hades, wandering, as it is said, among monuments +and tombs, about which, indeed, certain shadowy phantoms of souls +have been seen, being such images as those souls produced which +have not departed pure from the body, but which partake of the +visible; on which account, also, they are visible."</p> + +<p>"That is probable, Socrates."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec70" name= +"phaedo_sec70">70</a>. "Probable indeed, Cebes; and not that these +are the souls of the good, but of the wicked, which are compelled +<a class='pagenumber' name='page118' id='page118'></a>to wander +about such places, paying the penalty of their former conduct, +which was evil; and they wander about so long until, through the +desire of the corporeal nature that accompanies them, they are +again united to a body; and they are united, as is probable, to +animals having the same habits as those they have given themselves +up to during life."</p> + +<p>"But what do you say these are, Socrates?"</p> + +<p>"For instance, those who have given themselves up to gluttony, +wantonness and drinking, and have put no restraint on themselves, +will probably be clothed in the form of asses and brutes of that +kind. Do you not think so?"</p> + +<p>"You say what is very probable."</p> + +<p>"And that such as have set great value on injustice, tyranny and +rapine, will be clothed in the species of wolves, hawks and kites! +Where else can we say such souls go?"</p> + +<p>"Without doubt," said Cebes, "into such as these."</p> + +<p>"Is it not, then, evident," he continued, "as to the rest, +whither each will go, according to the resemblances of their +several pursuits?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec71" name= +"phaedo_sec71">71</a>. "It is evident," he replied. "How not?"</p> + +<p>"Of these, then," he said, "are not they the most happy, and do +they not go to the best place, who have practiced that social and +civilized virtue which they call temperance and justice, and which +is produced from habit and exercise, without philosophy and +reflection?"</p> + +<p>"In what respect are these the most happy?"</p> + +<p>"Because it is probable that these should again migrate into a +corresponding civilized and peaceable kind of animals, such as bees +perhaps, or wasps, or ants, or even into the same human species +again, and from these become moderate men."</p> + +<p>"It is probable."</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page119' id='page119'></a>But it is +not lawful for any one who has not studied philosophy, and departed +this life perfectly pure, to pass into the rank of gods, but only +for the true lover of wisdom. And on this account, my friends +Simmias and Cebes, those who philosophize rightly, abstain from all +bodily desires, and persevere in doing so, and do not give +themselves up to them, not fearing the loss of property and +poverty, as the generality of men and the lovers of wealth; nor, +again, dreading disgrace and ignominy, like those who are lovers of +power and honor, do they then abstain from them."</p> + +<p>"For it would not become them to do so, Socrates," says +Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec72" name= +"phaedo_sec72">72</a>. "It would not, by Jupiter!" he rejoined. +"Wherefore, Cebes, they who care at all for their soul, and do not +spend their lives in the culture of their bodies, despising all +these, proceed not in the same way with them, as being ignorant +whither they are going, but, being convinced that they ought not to +act contrary to philosophy, but in accordance with the freedom and +purification she affords, they give themselves up to her direction, +following her wherever she leads."</p> + +<p>"How, Socrates?"</p> + +<p>"I will tell you," he replied. "The lovers of wisdom know that +philosophy, receiving their soul plainly bound and glued to the +body, and compelled to view things through this, as through a +prison, and not directly by herself, and sunk in utter ignorance, +and perceiving, too, the strength of the prison, that it arises +from desire, so that he who is bound as much as possible assists in +binding himself. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec73" name= +"phaedo_sec73">73</a>. I say, then, the lovers of wisdom know that +philosophy, receiving their soul in this state, gently exhorts it, +and endeavors to free it, by showing that the view of things by +means of the eyes is full of deception, as also is that through the +ears and the <a class='pagenumber' name='page120' id= +'page120'></a>other senses; persuading an abandonment of these so +far as it is not absolutely necessary to use them, and advising the +soul to be collected and concentrated within itself, and to believe +nothing else than herself, with respect to what she herself +understands of things that have a real subsistence; and to consider +nothing true which she views through the medium of others, and +which differ under different aspects;<a id="footnotetag33" name= +"footnotetag33" href="#footnote33"><sup>33</sup></a> for that a +thing of this kind is sensible and visible, but that what she +herself perceives is intelligible and invisible. The soul of the +true philosopher, therefore, thinking that she ought not to oppose +this deliverance, accordingly abstains as much as possible from +pleasures and desires, griefs and fears, considering that when any +one is exceedingly delighted or alarmed, grieved or influenced by +desire, he does not merely suffer such evil from these things as +one might suppose, such as either being sick or wasting his +property through indulging his desires; but that which is the +greatest evil, and the worst of all, this he suffers, and is not +conscious of it."</p> + +<p>"But what is this evil, Socrates?" said Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec74" name= +"phaedo_sec74">74</a>. "That the soul of every man is compelled to +be either vehemently delighted or grieved about some particular +thing, and, at the same time, to consider that the thing about +which it is thus strongly affected is most real and most true, +though it is not so. But these are chiefly visible objects, are +they not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"In this state of affection, then, is not the soul especially +shackled by the body?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page121' id='page121'></a>How +so?"</p> + +<p>"Because each pleasure and pain, having a nail, as it were, +nails the soul to the body, and fastens it to it, and causes it to +become corporeal, deeming those things to be true whatever the body +asserts to be so. For, in consequence of its forming the same +opinions with the body, and delighting in the same things, it is +compelled, I think, to possess similar manners, and to be similarly +nourished; so that it can never pass into Hades in a pure state, +but must ever depart polluted by the body, and so quickly falls +again into another body, and grows up as if it were sown, and +consequently is deprived of all association with that which is +divine, and pure, and uniform."</p> + +<p>"You speak most truly, Socrates," said Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec75" name= +"phaedo_sec75">75</a>. "For these reasons, therefore, Cebes, those +who are truly lovers of wisdom are moderate and resolute, and not +for the reasons that most people say. Do you think as they do?"</p> + +<p>"Assuredly not."</p> + +<p>"No, truly. But the soul of a philosopher would reason thus, and +would not think that philosophy ought to set it free, and that when +it is freed it should give itself up again to pleasures and pains, +to bind it down again, and make her work void, weaving a kind of +Penelope's web the reverse way. On the contrary, effecting a calm +of the passions, and following the guidance of reason, and being +always intent on this, contemplating that which is true and divine, +and not subject to opinion; and being nourished by it, it thinks +that it ought to live in this manner as long as it does live, and +that when it dies it shall go to a kindred essence, and one like +itself, and shall be free from human evils. From such a regimen as +this the soul has no occasion to fear, Simmias and Cebes, while it +strictly attends to these things, lest, <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page122' id='page122'></a>being torn to pieces at its departure +from the body, it should be blown about and dissipated by the +winds, and no longer have an existence anywhere."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec76" name= +"phaedo_sec76">76</a>. When Socrates had thus spoken, a long +silence ensued; and Socrates himself was pondering upon what had +been said, as he appeared, and so did most of us; but Cebes and +Simmias were conversing a little while with each other. At length +Socrates, perceiving them, said, "What think you of what has been +said? Does it appear to you to have been proved sufficiently? for +many doubts and objections still remain if any one will examine +them thoroughly. If, then, you are considering some other subject, +I have nothing to say; but if you are doubting about this, do not +hesitate both yourselves to speak and express your opinion, if it +appears to you in any respect that it might have been argued +better, and to call me in again to your assistance, if you think +you can be at all benefited by my help."</p> + +<p>Upon this Simmias said, "Indeed, Socrates, I will tell you the +truth: for some time each of us, being in doubt, has been urging +and exhorting the other to question you, from a desire to hear our +doubts solved; but we were afraid of giving you trouble, lest it +should be disagreeable to you in your present circumstances."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec77" name= +"phaedo_sec77">77</a>. But he, upon hearing this, gently smiled, +and said, "Bless me, Simmias; with difficulty, indeed, could I +persuade other men that I do not consider my present condition a +calamity, since I am not able to persuade even you; but you are +afraid lest I should be more morose now than during the former part +of my life. And, as it seems, I appear to you to be inferior to +swans with respect to divination, who, when they perceive that they +must needs die, though they have been used to sing before, sing +then more than ever, rejoicing that they are about to depart to +that <a class='pagenumber' name='page123' id='page123'></a>deity +whose servants they are. But men, through their own fear of death, +belie the swans too, and say that they, lamenting their death, sing +their last song through grief; and they do not consider that no +bird sings when it is hungry or cold, or is afflicted with any +other pain, not even the nightingale, or swallow, or the hoopoes, +which, they say, sing lamenting through grief. But neither do these +birds appear to me to sing through sorrow, nor yet do swans; but, +in my opinion, belonging to Apollo, they are prophetic, and, +foreseeing the blessings of Hades, they sing and rejoice on that +day more excellently than at any preceding time. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec78" name="phaedo_sec78">78</a>. But +I, too, consider myself to be a fellow-servant of the swans, and +sacred to the same god; and that I have received the power of +divination from our common master no less than they, and that I do +not depart from this life with less spirits than they. On this +account, therefore, it is right that you should both speak and ask +whatever you please, so long as the Athenian Eleven permit."</p> + +<p>"You say well," said Simmias, "and both I will tell you what are +my doubts, and he, in turn, how far he does not assent to what has +been said. For it appears to me, Socrates, probably as it does to +you with respect to these matters, that to know them clearly in the +present life is either impossible or very difficult: on the other +hand, however, not to test what has been said of them in every +possible way, so as not to desist until, on examining them in every +point of view, one has exhausted every effort, is the part of a +very weak man. For we ought, with respect to these things, either +to learn from others how they stand or to discover them for one's +self; or, if both these are impossible, then, taking the best of +human reasonings and that which is the most difficult to be +confuted, and embarking on this, as one who risks himself on a +raft, so to sail through life, unless <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page124' id='page124'></a>one could be carried more safely, and +with less risk, on a surer conveyance, or some divine reason. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec79" name="phaedo_sec79">79</a>. +I, therefore, shall not now be ashamed to question you, since you +bid me do so, nor shall I blame myself hereafter for not having now +told you what I think; for to me, Socrates, when I consider the +matter, both with myself and with Cebes, what has been said does +not appear to have been sufficiently proved."</p> + +<p>Then said Socrates, "Perhaps, my friend, you have the truth on +your side; but tell me in what respect it was not sufficiently +proved."</p> + +<p>"In this," he answered, "because any one might use the same +argument with respect to harmony, and a lyre, and its chords, that +harmony is something invisible and incorporeal, very beautiful and +divine, in a well-modulated lyre; but the lyre and its chords are +bodies, and of corporeal form, compounded and earthly, and akin to +that which is mortal. When any one, then, has either broken the +lyre, or cut or burst the chords, he might maintain from the same +reasoning as yours that it is necessary the harmony should still +exist and not be destroyed; for there could be no possibility that +the lyre should subsist any longer when the chords are burst; and +that the chords, which are of a mortal nature, should subsist, but +that the harmony, which is of the same nature and akin to that +which is divine and immortal, should become extinct, and perish +before that which is mortal; but he might say that the harmony must +needs subsist somewhere, and that the wood and chords must decay +before it can undergo any change. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec80" name="phaedo_sec80">80</a>. For I think, Socrates, +that you yourself have arrived at this conclusion, that we consider +the soul to be pretty much of this kind—namely, that our body +being compacted and held together by heat and cold, dryness and +moisture, and other <a class='pagenumber' name='page125' id= +'page125'></a>such qualities, our soul is the fusion and harmony of +these, when they are well and duly combined with each other. If, +then, the soul is a kind of harmony, it is evident that when our +bodies are unduly relaxed or strained, through diseases and other +maladies, the soul must, of necessity, immediately perish, although +it is most divine, just as other harmonies which subsist in sounds +or in the various works of artisans; but that the remains of the +body of each person last for a long time, till they are either +burned or decayed. Consider, then, what we shall say to this +reasoning, if any one should maintain that the soul, being a fusion +of the several qualities in the body, perishes first in that which +is called death."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec81" name= +"phaedo_sec81">81</a>. Socrates, therefore, looking steadfastly at +us, as he was generally accustomed to do, and smiling, said, +"Simmias indeed speaks justly. If, then, any one of you is more +prompt than I am, why does he not answer, for he seems to have +handled my argument not badly? It appears to me, however, that +before we make our reply we should first hear from Cebes, what he, +too, objects to our argument, in order that, some time intervening, +we may consider what we shall say, and then when we have heard +them, we may give up to them, if they appear to speak agreeably to +truth; or, if not, we may then uphold our own argument. Come, then, +Cebes," he continued, "say what it is that disturbs you, so as to +cause your unbelief."</p> + +<p>"I will tell you," said Cebes; "the argument seems to me to rest +where it was, and to be liable to the same objection that we +mentioned before. For, that our soul existed even before It came +into this present form, I do not deny has been very elegantly, and, +if it is not too much to say so, very fully, demonstrated; but that +it still exists anywhere when we are dead does not appear to me to +have been clearly proved; nor do I give in to the objection of +Simmias, that <a class='pagenumber' name='page126' id= +'page126'></a>the soul is not stronger and more durable than the +body, for it appears to me to excel very far all things of this +kind. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec82" name= +"phaedo_sec82">82</a>. 'Why, then,' reason might say, 'do you still +disbelieve? for, since you see that when a man dies his weaker part +still exists, does it not appear to you to be necessary that the +more durable part should still be preserved during this period?' +Consider, then, whether I say any thing to the purpose in reply to +this. For I, too, as well as Simmias, as it seems, stand in need of +an illustration; for the argument appears to me to have been put +thus, as if any one should advance this argument about an aged +weaver who had died, that the man has not yet perished, but perhaps +still exists somewhere; and, as a proof, should exhibit the garment +which he wore and had woven himself, that it is entire and has not +perished; and if any one should disbelieve him, he would ask, which +of the two is the more durable, the species of a man or of a +garment, that is constantly in use and being worn; then, should any +one answer that the species of man is much more durable, he would +think it demonstrated that, beyond all question, the man is +preserved, since that which is less durable has not perished. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec83" name="phaedo_sec83">83</a>. +But I do not think, Simmias, that this is the case, and do you +consider what I say, for every one must think that he who argues +thus argues, foolishly. For this weaver, having worn and woven many +such garments, perished after almost all of them, but before the +last, I suppose; and yet it does not on this account follow any the +more that a man is inferior to or weaker than a garment. And I +think, the soul might admit this same illustration with respect to +the body, and he who should say the same things concerning them +would appear to me to speak correctly, that the soul is more +durable, but the body weaker and less durable; for he would say +that each soul wears out many bodies, especially <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page127' id='page127'></a>if it lives many +years; for if the body wastes and is dissolved while the man still +lives, but the soul continually weaves anew what is worn out, it +must necessarily follow that when the soul is dissolved it must +then have on its last garment, and perish before this alone; but +when the soul has perished the body would show the weakness of its +nature, and quickly rot and vanish. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec84" name="phaedo_sec84">84</a>. So that it is not by any +means right to place implicit reliance on this argument, and to +believe that when we die our soul still exists somewhere. For, if +any one should concede to him who admits even more than you do, and +should grant to him that not only did our soul exist before we were +born, but that even when we die nothing hinders the souls of some +of us from still existing, and continuing to exist hereafter, and +from being often born, and dying again—for so strong is it by +nature, that it can hold out against repeated births—if he +granted this, he would not yet concede that it does not exhaust +itself in its many births, and at length perish altogether in some +one of the deaths. But he would say that no one knows this death +and dissolution of the body, which brings destruction to the soul; +for it is impossible for any one of us to perceive it. If, however, +this be the case, it follows that every one who is confident at the +approach of death is foolishly confident, unless he is able to +prove that the soul is absolutely immortal and imperishable; +otherwise it necessarily follows that he who is about to die must +be alarmed for his soul, lest in its present disunion from the body +it should entirely perish."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec85" name= +"phaedo_sec85">85</a>. Upon this, all of us who had heard them +speaking were disagreeably affected, as we afterward mentioned to +each other; because, after we had been fully persuaded by the +former arguments, they seemed to disturb us anew, and to cast us +into a distrust, not only of the arguments already <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page128' id='page128'></a>adduced, but of such +as might afterward be urged, for fear lest we should not be fit +judges of anything, or lest the things themselves should be +incredible.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Echec.</span> By the gods! +Phædo, I can readily excuse you; for, while I am now hearing +you, it occurs to me to ask myself some such question as this: What +arguments can we any longer believe? since the argument which +Socrates advanced, and which was exceedingly credible, has now +fallen into discredit. For this argument, that our soul is a kind +of harmony, produces a wonderful impression on me, both now and +always, and in being mentioned, it has reminded me, as it were, +that I, too, was formerly of the same opinion; so that I stand in +need again, as if from the very beginning, of some other argument +which may persuade me that the soul of one who dies does not die +with the body. Tell me, therefore, by Jupiter! how Socrates +followed up the argument; and whether he, too, as you confess was +the case with yourselves, seemed disconcerted at all, or not, but +calmly maintained his position; and maintained it sufficiently or +defectively. Relate everything to me as accurately as you can.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec86" name= +"phaedo_sec86">86</a>. <span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> +Indeed, Echecrates, though I have often admired Socrates, I was +never more delighted than at being with him on that occasion. That +he should be able to say something is perhaps not at all +surprising; but I especially admired this in him—first of +all, that he listened to the argument of the young men so sweetly, +affably, and approvingly; in the next place, that he so quickly +perceived how we were affected by their arguments; and, lastly, +that he cured us so well and recalled us, when we were put to +flight, as it were, and vanquished, and encouraged us to accompany +him, and consider the argument with him.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Echec.</span> How was that?</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page129' id='page129'></a><span +class="speakername">Phæd.</span> I will tell you: I happened +to be sitting at his right hand, near the bed, upon a low seat, but +he himself sat much higher than I. Stroking my head, then, and +laying hold of the hair that hung on my neck—for he used, +often, to play with my hairs—"To-morrow," he said, "perhaps, +Phædo, you will cut off these beautiful locks?"</p> + +<p>"It seems likely, Socrates," said I.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec87" name= +"phaedo_sec87">87</a>. "Not if you are persuaded by me."</p> + +<p>"Why so?" I asked.</p> + +<p>"To-day," he replied, "both I ought to cut off mine and you +yours, if our argument must die, and we are unable to revive it. +And I, if I were you, and the arguments were to escape me, would +take an oath, as the Argives do, not to suffer my hair to grow +until I had renewed the contest, and vanquished the arguments of +Simmias and Cebes."</p> + +<p>"But," I said, "even Hercules himself is said not to have been a +match for two."</p> + +<p>"Call upon me, then," he said, "as your Iolaus, while it is yet +day."</p> + +<p>"I do call on you, then," I said, "not as Hercules upon Iolaus, +but as Iolaus upon Hercules."</p> + +<p>"It will make no difference," he replied. "But, first of all, we +must beware lest we meet with some mischance."</p> + +<p>"What?" I asked.</p> + +<p>"That we do not become," he answered, "haters of reasoning, as +some become haters of men; for no greater evil can happen to any +one than to hate reasoning. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec88" name="phaedo_sec88">88</a>. But hatred of reasoning +and hatred of mankind both spring from the same source. For hatred +of mankind is produced in us from having placed too great reliance +on some one without sufficient knowledge of him, and from having +considered him to be a man altogether true, sincere, and faithful, +and then, after a little while, finding him depraved and <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page130' id='page130'></a>unfaithful, and after +him another. And when a man has often experienced this, and +especially from those whom he considered his most intimate and best +friends, at length, having frequently stumbled, he hates all men, +and thinks that there is no soundness at all in any of them. Have +you not perceived that this happens so?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," I replied.</p> + +<p>"Is it not a shame?" he said "And is it not evident that such a +one attempts to deal with men without sufficient knowledge of human +affairs? For if he had dealt with them with competent knowledge, as +the case really is, so he would have considered that the good and +the bad are each very few in number, and that those between both +are most numerous."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec89" name= +"phaedo_sec89">89</a>. "How say you?" I asked.</p> + +<p>"In the same manner," he replied, "as with things very little +and very large Do you think that any thing is more rare than to +find a very large on a very little man, or dog, or any thing else? +and, again, swift or slow, beautiful or ugly, white or black? Do +you not perceive that of all such things the extremes are rare and +few, but that the intermediate are abundant and numerous?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," I replied.</p> + +<p>"Do you not think, then," he continued, "that if a contest in +wickedness were proposed, even here very few would be found +pre-eminent?"</p> + +<p>"It is probable," I said.</p> + +<p>"It is so," he said, "but in this respect reasonings do not +resemble men, for I was just now following you as my leader, but in +this they do resemble them, when any one believes in any argument +as true without being skilled in the art of reasoning, and then +shortly afterward it appears to him to be false, at one time being +so and at another time <a class='pagenumber' name='page131' id= +'page131'></a>not, and so on with one after another,<a id= +"footnotetag34" name="footnotetag34" href= +"#footnote34"><sup>34</sup></a> and especially they who devote +themselves to controversial arguments, you are aware, at length +think they have become very wise and have alone discovered that +there is nothing sound and stable either in things or reasonings +but that all things that exist, as is the case with the Euripus, +are in a constant state of flux and reflux, and never continue in +any one condition for any length of time."</p> + +<p>"You speak perfectly true," I said.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec90" name= +"phaedo_sec90">90</a>. "Would it not, then, Phædo" he said +"be a sad thing if, when there is a true and sound reasoning, and +such as one can understand, one should then, through lighting upon +such arguments as appear to be at one time true and at another +false, not blame one's self and one's own want of skill, but at +length, through grief, should anxiously transfer the blame from +one's self to the arguments, and thereupon pass the rest of one's +life in hating and reviling arguments and so be depraved of the +truth and knowledge of things that exist?"</p> + +<p>"By Jupiter!" I said, "it would be sad, indeed."</p> + +<p>"In the first place, then," he said, "let us beware of this, and +let us not admit into our souls the notion that there appears to be +nothing sound in reasoning, but much rather that we are not yet in +a sound condition, and that we ought vigorously and strenuously to +endeavor to become sound, you and the others, on account of your +whole future life, but I, on account of my death, since I am in +danger, at the <a class='pagenumber' name='page132' id= +'page132'></a>present time, of not behaving as becomes a +philosopher with respect to this very subject, but as a wrangler, +like those who are utterly uninformed <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec91" name="phaedo_sec91">91</a>. For they, when they +dispute about any thing, care nothing at all for the subject about +which the discussion is, but are anxious about this, that what they +have themselves advanced shall appear true to the persons present. +And I seem to myself on the present occasion to differ from them +only in this respect, for I shall not be anxious to make what I say +appear true to those who are present, except that may happen by the +way, but that it may appear certainly to be so to myself. For I +thus reason, my dear friend, and observe how interestedly. If what +I say be true, it is well to be persuaded of it, but if nothing +remains to one that is dead, I shall, at least, during the interval +before death be less disagreeable to those present by my +lamentations. But this ignorance of mine will not continue long, +for that would be bad, but will shortly be put an end to. Thus +prepared, then, Simmias and Cebes," he continued, "I now proceed to +my argument. Do you, however, if you will be persuaded by me, pay +little attention to Socrates, but much more to the truth, and if I +appear to you to say any thing true, assent to it, but if not, +oppose me with all your might, taking good care that in my zeal I +do not deceive both myself and you, and, like a bee, depart leaving +my sting behind."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec92" name= +"phaedo_sec92">92</a>. "But let us proceed," he said "First of all, +remind me of what you said, if I should appear to have forgotten it +For Simmias, as I think, is in doubt, and fears lest the soul, +though more divine and beautiful than the body, should perish +before it, as being a species of harmony. But Cebes appeared to me +to grant me this, that the soul is more durable than the body, but +he argued that it is uncertain to every one, whether when the soul +has worn out many bodies <a class='pagenumber' name='page133' id= +'page133'></a>and that repeatedly, it does not, on leaving the last +body, itself also perish, so that this very thing is death, the +destruction of the soul, since the body never ceases decaying Are +not these the things, Simmias and Cebes, which we have to inquire +into?"</p> + +<p>They both agreed that they were.</p> + +<p>"Whether, then," he continued "do you reject all our former +arguments, or some of them only, and not others?"</p> + +<p>"Some we do," they replied, "and others not."</p> + +<p>"What, then," he proceeded, "do you say about that argument in +which we asserted that knowledge is reminiscence, and that, this +being the case, our soul must necessarily have existed somewhere +before it was inclosed in the body?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec93" name= +"phaedo_sec93">93</a>. "I, indeed," replied Cebes "was both then +wonderfully persuaded by it, and now persist in it, as in no other +argument."</p> + +<p>"And I, too," said Simmias, "am of the same mind, and should +very much wonder if I should ever think otherwise on that +point."</p> + +<p>"Then," Socrates said, "you must needs think otherwise, my +Theban friend, if this opinion holds good, that harmony is +something compounded, and that the soul is a kind of harmony that +results from the parts compacted together in the body. For surely +you will not allow yourself to say that harmony was composed prior +to the things from which it required to be composed Would you allow +this?"</p> + +<p>"By no means, Socrates" he replied.</p> + +<p>"Do you perceive, then," he said, "that this result from what +you say, when you assert that the soul existed before it came into +a human form and body, but that it was composed from things that +did not yet exist? For harmony is not such as that to which you +compare it, but first the <a class='pagenumber' name='page134' id= +'page134'></a>lyre, and the chords, and the sounds yet +unharmonized, exist, and, last of all, harmony is produced, and +first perishes. How, then, will this argument accord with +that?"</p> + +<p>"Not at all," said Simmias.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec94" name= +"phaedo_sec94">94</a>. "And yet," he said, "if in any argument, +there ought to be an accordance in one respecting harmony."</p> + +<p>"There ought," said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"This of yours, however," he said, "is not in accordance. +Consider, then, which of these two statements do you +prefer—that knowledge is reminiscence, or the soul +harmony?"</p> + +<p>"The former by far, Socrates," he replied; "for the latter +occurred to me without demonstration, through a certain probability +and speciousness whence most men derive their opinions. But I am +well aware that arguments which draw their demonstrations from +probabilities are idle; and, unless one is on one's guard against +them, they are very deceptive, both in geometry and all other +subjects. But the argument respecting reminiscence and knowledge +may be said to have been demonstrated by a satisfactory hypothesis. +For in this way it was said that our soul existed before it came +into the body, because the essence that bears the appellation of +'that which is' belongs to it. But of this, as I persuade myself, I +am fully and rightly convinced. It is therefore necessary, as it +seems, that I should neither allow myself nor any one else to +maintain that the soul is harmony."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec95" name= +"phaedo_sec95">95</a>. "But what, Simmias," said he, "if you +consider it thus? Does it appear to you to appertain to harmony, or +to any other composition, to subsist in any other way than the very +things do of which it is composed?"</p> + +<p>"By no means."</p> + +<p>"And indeed, as I think, neither to do any thing, nor suffer any +thing else, besides what they do or suffer."</p> + +<p><a class='pagenumber' name='page135' id='page135'></a>He +agreed.</p> + +<p>"It does not, therefore, appertain to harmony to take the lead +of the things of which it is composed, but to follow them."</p> + +<p>He assented.</p> + +<p>"It is, then, far from being the case that harmony is moved or +sends forth sounds contrariwise, or is in any other respect opposed +to its parts?"</p> + +<p>"Far, indeed," he said.</p> + +<p>"What, then? Is not every harmony naturally harmony, so far as +it has been made to accord?"</p> + +<p>"I do not understand you," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Whether," he said, "if it should be in a greater degree and +more fully made to accord, supposing that were possible, would the +harmony be greater and more full; but if in a less degree and less +fully, then would it be inferior and less full?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"Is this, then, the case with the soul that, even in the +smallest extent, one soul is more fully and in a greater degree, or +less fully and in a less degree, this very thing, a soul, than +another?"</p> + +<p>"In no respect whatever," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec96" name= +"phaedo_sec96">96</a>. "Well, then," he said, "by Jupiter! is one +soul said to possess intelligence and virtue, and to be good, and +another folly and vice, and to be bad? and is this said with +truth?"</p> + +<p>"With truth, certainly."</p> + +<p>"Of those, then, who maintain that the soul is harmony, what +will any one say that these things are in the soul, virtue and +vice? Will he call them another kind of harmony and discord, and +say that the one, the good soul, is harmonized, and, being harmony, +contains within itself another <a class='pagenumber' name='page136' +id='page136'></a>harmony, but that the other is discordant, and +does not contain within itself another harmony?"</p> + +<p>"I am unable to say," replied Simmias; "but it is clear that he +who maintains that opinion would say something of the kind."</p> + +<p>"But it has been already granted," said he, "that one soul is +not more or less a soul than another; and this is an admission that +one harmony is not to a greater degree or more fully, or to a less +degree or less fully, a harmony, than another; is it not so?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"And that that which is neither more or less harmony is neither +more nor less harmonized: is it so?"</p> + +<p>"It is."</p> + +<p>"But does that which is neither more or less harmonized partake +of more or less harmony, or an equal amount?"</p> + +<p>"An equal amount."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec97" name= +"phaedo_sec97">97</a>. "A soul, therefore, since it is not more or +less this very thing, a soul, than another, is not more or less +harmonized?"</p> + +<p>"Even so."</p> + +<p>"Such, then, being its condition, it can not partake of a +greater degree of discord or harmony?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly not."</p> + +<p>"And, again, such being its condition, can one soul partake of a +greater degree of vice or virtue than another, if vice be discord, +and virtue harmony?"</p> + +<p>"It can not."</p> + +<p>"Or rather, surely, Simmias, according to right reason, no soul +will partake of vice, if it is harmony; for doubtless harmony, +which is perfectly such, can never partake of discord?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly not."</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page137' id='page137'></a>Neither, +therefore, can a soul which is perfectly a soul partake of +vice."</p> + +<p>"How can it, from what has been already said?"</p> + +<p>"From this reasoning, then, all souls of all animals will be +equally good, if, at least, they are by nature equally this very +thing, souls?"</p> + +<p>"It appears so to me, Socrates," he said.</p> + +<p>"And does it appear to you," he said, "to have been thus rightly +argued, and that the argument would lead to this result, if the +hypothesis were correct, that the soul is harmony?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec98" name= +"phaedo_sec98">98</a>. "On no account whatever," he replied.</p> + +<p>"But what," said he, "of all the things that are in man? Is +there any thing else that you say bears rule except the soul, +especially if it be wise?"</p> + +<p>"I should say not."</p> + +<p>"Whether by yielding to the passions in the body, or by opposing +them? My meaning is this: for instance, when heat and thirst are +present, by drawing it the contrary way, so as to hinder it from +drinking; and when hunger is present, by hindering it from eating; +and in ten thousand other instances we see the soul opposing the +desires of the body. Do we not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"But have we not before allowed that if the soul were harmony, +it would never utter a sound contrary to the tension, relaxation, +vibration, or any other affection to which its component parts are +subject, but would follow, and never govern them?"</p> + +<p>"We did allow it," he replied, "for how could we do +otherwise?"</p> + +<p>"What, then? Does not the soul now appear to act quite the +contrary, ruling over all the parts from which any one <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page138' id='page138'></a>might say it subsists, +and resisting almost all of them through the whole of life, and +exercising dominion over them in all manner of ways; punishing some +more severely even with pain, both by gymnastics and medicine, and +others more mildly; partly threatening, and partly admonishing the +desires, angers and fears, as if, being itself of a different +nature, it were conversing with something quite different? <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec99" name="phaedo_sec99">99</a>. +Just as Homer has done in the Odyssey,<a id="footnotetag35" name= +"footnotetag35" href="#footnote35"><sup>35</sup></a> where he +speaks of Ulysses—'Having struck his breast, he chid his +heart in the following words: Bear up, my heart; ere this thou hast +borne far worse.' Do you think that he composed this in the belief +that the soul was harmony, and capable of being led by the passions +of the body, and not rather that it was able to lead and govern +them, as being something much more divine than to be compared with +harmony?"</p> + +<p>"By Jupiter! Socrates, it appears so to me."</p> + +<p>"Therefore, my excellent friend, it is on no account correct for +us to say that the soul is a kind of harmony; for, as it appears, +we should neither agree with Homer, that divine poet, nor with +ourselves."</p> + +<p>"Such is the case," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Be it so, then," said Socrates, "we have already, as it seems, +sufficiently appeased this Theban harmony. But how, Cebes, and by +what arguments, shall we appease this Cadmus?"<a id="footnotetag36" +name="footnotetag36" href="#footnote36"><sup>36</sup></a></p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec100" name= +"phaedo_sec100">100</a>. "You appear to me," replied Cebes, "to be +likely to find out; for you have made out this argument against +harmony wonderfully beyond my expectation. For when Simmias <a +class='pagenumber' name='page139' id='page139'></a>was saying what +his doubts were, I wondered very much whether any one would be able +to answer his reasoning. It, therefore, appeared to me +unaccountable that he did not withstand the very first onset of +your argument. I should not, therefore, be surprised if the +arguments of Cadmus met with the same fate."</p> + +<p>"My good friend," said Socrates, "do not speak so boastfully, +lest some envious power should overthrow the argument that is about +to be urged. These things, however, will be cared for by the deity; +but let us, meeting hand to hand, in the manner of Homer, try +whether you say any thing to the purpose. This, then, is the sum of +what you inquire you require it to be proved that our soul is +imperishable and immortal; if a philosopher that is about to die, +full of confidence and hope that after death he shall be far +happier than if he had died after leading a different kind of life, +shall not entertain this confidence foolishly and vainly. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec101" name="phaedo_sec101">101</a>. +But to show that the soul is something strong and divine, and that +it existed before we men were born, you say not at all hinders, but +that all these things may evince, not its immortality, but that the +soul is durable, and existed an immense space of time before, and +knew and did many things. But that, for all this, it was not at all +the more immortal, but that its very entrance into the body of a +man was the beginning of its destruction, as if it were a disease; +so that it passes through this life in wretchedness, and at last +perishes in that which is called death. But you say that it is of +no consequence whether it comes into a body once or often, with +respect to our occasion of fear; for it is right he should be +afraid, unless he is foolish, who does not know, and can not give a +reason to prove, that the soul is immortal. Such, I think, Cebes, +is the sum of what you say; and I purposely repeat it often, that +nothing <a class='pagenumber' name='page140' id='page140'></a>may +escape us, and, if you please, you may add to or take from it."</p> + +<p>Cebes replied, "I do not wish at present either to take from or +add to it; that is what I mean."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec102" name= +"phaedo_sec102">102</a>. Socrates, then having paused for some +time, and considered something within himself, said, "You inquire +into no easy matter, Cebes; for it is absolutely necessary to +discuss the whole question of generation and corruption. If you +please, then, I will relate to you what happened to me with +reference to them; and afterward, if any thing that I shall say +shall appear to you useful toward producing conviction on the +subject you are now treating of, make use of it."</p> + +<p>"I do indeed wish it," replied Cebes.</p> + +<p>"Hear my relation, then. When I was a young man, Cebes, I was +wonderfully desirous of that wisdom which they call a history of +nature; for it appeared to me to be a very sublime thing to know +the causes of every thing—why each thing is generated, why it +perishes, and why it exists. And I often tossed myself upward and +downward, considering first such things as these, whether when heat +and cold have undergone a certain corruption, as some say, then +animals are formed; and whether the blood is that by means of which +we think, or air, or fire, or none of these, but that it is the +brain that produces the perceptions of hearing, seeing, and +smelling; and that from these come memory and opinion; and from +memory and opinion, when in a state of rest, in the same way +knowledge is produced. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec103" +name="phaedo_sec103">103</a>. And, again, considering the +corruptions of these, and the affections incidental to the heavens +and the earth, I at length appeared to myself so unskillful in +these speculations that nothing could be more so. But I will give +you a sufficient proof of this; for I then became, by these very +speculations, <a class='pagenumber' name='page141' id= +'page141'></a>so very blind with respect to things which I knew +clearly before, as it appeared to myself and others, that I +unlearned even the things which I thought I knew before, both on +many other subjects and also this, why a man grows. For, before, I +thought this was evident to every one—that it proceeds from +eating and drinking; for that, when, from the food, flesh is added +to flesh, bone to bone, and so on in the same proportion, what is +proper to them is added to the several other parts, then the bulk +which was small becomes afterward large, and thus that a little man +becomes a big one. Such was my opinion at that time. Does it appear +to you correct?"</p> + +<p>"To me it does," said Cebes.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec104" name= +"phaedo_sec104">104</a>. "Consider this further. I thought that I +had formed a right opinion, when, on seeing a tall man standing by +a short one, I judged that he was taller by the head, and in like +manner, one horse than another; and, still more clearly than this, +ten appeared to me to be more than eight by two being added to +them, and that two cubits are greater than one cubit by exceeding +it a half."</p> + +<p>"But now," said Cebes, "what think you of these matters?"</p> + +<p>"By Jupiter!" said he, "I am far from thinking that I know the +cause of these, for that I can not even persuade myself of this: +when a person has added one to one, whether the one to which the +addition has been made has become two, or whether that which has +been added, and that to which the addition has been made, have +become two by the addition of the one to the other. For I wonder +if, when each of these was separate from the other, each was one, +and they were not yet two; but when they have approached nearer +each other this should be the cause of their becoming +two—namely, the union by which they have been placed <a +class='pagenumber' name='page142' id='page142'></a>nearer one +another. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec105" name= +"phaedo_sec105">105</a>. Nor yet, if any person should divide one, +am I able to persuade myself that this, their division, is the +cause of its becoming two. For this cause is the contrary to the +former one of their becoming two; for then it was because they were +brought nearer to each other, and the one was added to the other; +but now it is because one is removed and separated from the other. +Nor do I yet persuade myself that I know why one is one, nor, in a +word, why any thing else is produced, or perishes, or exists, +according to this method of proceeding; but I mix up another method +of my own at random, for this I can on no account give in to."</p> + +<p>"But, having once heard a person reading from a book, written, +as he said, by Anaxagoras, and which said that it is intelligence +that sets in order and is the cause of all things, I was delighted +with this cause, and it appeared to me in a manner to be well that +intelligence should be the cause of all things, and I considered +with myself, if this is so, that the regulating intelligence orders +all things, and disposes each in such way as will be best for it. +<a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec106" name= +"phaedo_sec106">106</a>. If any one, then, should desire to +discover the cause of every thing, in what way it is produced, or +perishes, or exists, he must discover this respecting it—in +what way it is best for it either to exist, or to suffer, or do any +thing else. From this mode of reasoning, then, it is proper that a +man should consider nothing else, both with respect to himself and +others, than what is most excellent and best; and it necessarily +follows that this same person must also know that which is worst, +for that the knowledge of both of them is the same. Thus reasoning +with myself, I was delighted to think I had found in Anaxagoras a +preceptor who would instruct me in the causes of things, agreeably +to my own mind, and that he would inform me, first, whether the +earth is flat or round, <a class='pagenumber' name='page143' id= +'page143'></a>and, when he had informed me, would, moreover, +explain the cause and necessity of its being so, arguing on the +principle of the better, and showing that it is better for it to be +such as it is; and if he should say that it is in the middle, that +he would, moreover, explain how it is better for it to be in the +middle; and if he should make all this clear to me, I was prepared +no longer to require any other species of cause. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec107" name="phaedo_sec107">107</a>. I +was in like manner prepared to inquire respecting the sun and moon +and the other stars, with respect to their velocities in reference +to each other, and their revolutions and other conditions, in what +way it is better for both to act and be affected as it does and is. +For I never thought that after he had said that these things were +set in order by intelligence, he would introduce any other cause +for them than that it is best for them to be as they are. Hence, I +thought, that in assigning the cause to each of them, and to all in +common, he would explain that which is best for each, and the +common good of all. And I would not have given up my hopes for a +good deal; but, having taken up his books with great eagerness, I +read through them as quickly as I could, that I might as soon as +possible know the best and the worst."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec108" name= +"phaedo_sec108">108</a>. "From this wonderful hope, however, my +friend, I was speedily thrown down, when, as I advance and read +over his works, I meet with a man who makes no use of intelligence, +nor assigns any causes for the ordering of all things, but makes +the causes to consist of air, ether, and water, and many other +things equally absurd. And he appeared to me to be very like one +who should say that whatever Socrates does he does by intelligence, +and then, attempting to describe the causes of each particular +action, should say, first of all, that for this reason I am now +sitting here, because my body is composed of bones and sinews <a +class='pagenumber' name='page144' id='page144'></a>and that the +bones are hard, and have joints separate from each other, but that +the sinews, being capable of tension and contraction, cover the +bones, together with the flesh and skin which contain them. The +bones, therefore, being suspended in their sockets, the nerves, +relaxing and tightening, enable me to bend my limbs as I now do, +and from this cause I sit here bent up. <a class="sectionnumber" +id="phaedo_sec109" name="phaedo_sec109">109</a>. And if, again, he +should assign other similar causes for my conversing with you, +assigning as causes voice, and air, and hearing, and ten thousand +other things of the kind, omitting to mention the real causes, that +since it appeared better to the Athenians to condemn me, I +therefore thought it better to sit here, and more just to remain +and submit to the punishment which they have ordered; for, by the +dog! I think these sinews and bones would have been long ago either +in Megara or Boeotia, borne thither by an opinion of that which is +best, if I had not thought it more just and honorable to submit to +whatever sentence the city might order than to flee and run +stealthily away. But to call such things causes is too absurd. But +if any one should say that without possessing such things as bones +and sinews, and whatever else I have, I could not do what I +pleased, he would speak the truth; but to say that I do as I do +through them, and that I act thus by intelligence, and not from the +choice of what is best, would be a great and extreme disregard of +reason. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec110" name= +"phaedo_sec110">110</a>. For this would be not to be able to +distinguish that the real cause is one thing, and that another, +without which a cause could not be a cause; which, indeed, the +generality of men appear to me to do, fumbling, as it were, in the +dark, and making use of strange names, so as to denominate them as +the very cause. Wherefore one encompassing the earth with a vortex +from heaven makes the earth remain fixed; but another, as if it +were a broad trough, rests it upon the <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page145' id='page145'></a>air as its base; but the power by which +these things are now so disposed that they may be placed in the +best manner possible, this they neither inquire into, nor do they +think that it requires any superhuman strength; but they think they +will some time or other find out an Atlas stronger and more +immortal than this, and more capable of containing all things; and +in reality, the good, and that which ought to hold them together +and contain them, they take no account of at all. I, then, should +most gladly have become the disciple of any one who would teach me +of such a cause, in what way it is. But when I was disappointed of +this, and was neither able to discover it myself, nor to learn it +from another, do you wish, Cebes, that I should show you in what +way I set out upon a second voyage in search of the cause?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec111" name= +"phaedo_sec111">111</a>. "I wish it exceedingly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"It appeared to me, then," said he, "after this, when I was +wearied with considering things that exist, that I ought to beware +lest I should suffer in the same way as they do who look at and +examine an eclipse of the sun, for some lose the sight of their +eyes, unless they behold its image in water, or some similar +medium. And I was affected with a similar feeling, and was afraid +lest I should be utterly blinded in my soul through beholding +things with the eyes, and endeavoring to grasp them by means of the +several senses. It seemed to me, therefore, that I ought to have +recourse to reasons, and to consider in them the truth of things. +Perhaps, however, this similitude of mine may in some respect be +incorrect; for I do not altogether admit that he who considers +things in their reasons considers them in their images, more than +he does who views them in their effects. However, I proceeded thus, +and on each occasion laying down the reason, which I deem to be the +strongest, whatever <a class='pagenumber' name='page146' id= +'page146'></a>things appear to me to accord with this I regard as +true, both with respect to the cause and every thing else; but such +as do not accord I regard as not true. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec112" name="phaedo_sec112">112</a>. But I wish to explain +my meaning to you in a clearer manner; for I think that you do not +yet understand me."</p> + +<p>"No, by Jupiter!" said Cebes, "not well."</p> + +<p>"However," continued he, "I am now saying nothing new, but what +I have always at other times, and in a former part of this +discussion, never ceased to say. I proceed, then, to attempt to +explain to you that species of cause which I have busied myself +about, and return again to those well-known subjects, and set out +from them, laying down as an hypothesis, that there is a certain +abstract beauty, and goodness, and magnitude, and so of all other +things; which if you grant me, and allow that they do exist, I hope +that I shall be able from these to explain the cause to you, and to +discover that the soul is immortal."</p> + +<p>"But," said Cebes, "since I grant you this, you may draw your +conclusion at once."</p> + +<p>"But consider," he said, "what follows from thence, and see if +you can agree with me. For it appears to me that if there is any +thing else beautiful besides beauty itself, it is not beautiful for +any other reason than because it partakes of that abstract beauty; +and I say the same of every thing. Do you admit such a cause?"</p> + +<p>"I do admit it," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec113" name= +"phaedo_sec113">113</a>. "I do not yet understand," he continued, +"nor am I able to conceive, those other wise causes; but if any one +should tell me why any thing is beautiful, either because it has a +blooming florid color, or figure, or any thing else of the kind, I +dismiss all other reasons, for I am confounded by them all; but I +simply, wholly, and perhaps foolishly, confine myself to this, that +nothing else causes it to be beautiful <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page147' id='page147'></a>except either the presence or +communication of that abstract beauty, by whatever means and in +whatever way communicated; for I can not yet affirm this with +certainty, but only that by means of beauty all beautiful things +become beautiful. For this appears to me the safest answer to give +both to myself and others; and adhering to this, I think that I +shall never fall, but that it is a safe answer both for me and any +one else to give—that by means of beauty beautiful things +become beautiful. Does it not also seem so to you?"</p> + +<p>"It does."</p> + +<p>"And that by magnitude great things become great, and greater +things, greater; and by littleness less things become less?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec114" name= +"phaedo_sec114">114</a>. "You would not, then, approve of it, if +any one said that one person is greater than another by the head, +and that the less is less by the very same thing; but you would +maintain that you mean nothing else than that every thing that is +greater than another is greater by nothing else than magnitude, and +that it is greater on this account—that is, on account of +magnitude; and that the less is less by nothing else than +littleness, and on this account less—that is, on account of +littleness; being afraid, I think, lest some opposite argument +should meet you if you should say that any one is greater and less +by the head; as, first, that the greater is greater, and the less +less, by the very same thing; and, next, that the greater is +greater by the head, which is small; and that it is monstrous to +suppose that any one is great through something small. Should you +not be afraid of this?"</p> + +<p>To which said Cebes, smilingly, "Indeed, I should."</p> + +<p>"Should you not, then," he continued, "be afraid to say that ten +is more than eight by two, and for this cause exceeds <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page148' id='page148'></a>it, and not by number, +and on account of number? and that two cubits are greater than one +cubit by half, and not by magnitude (for the fear is surely the +same)?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec115" name= +"phaedo_sec115">115</a>. "What, then? When one has been added to +one, would you not beware of saying that the addition is the cause +of its being two, or division when it has been divided; and would +you not loudly assert that you know no other way in which each +thing subsists, than by partaking of the peculiar essence of each +of which it partakes, and that in these cases you can assign no +other cause of its becoming two than its partaking of duality; and +that such things as are to become two must needs partake of this, +and what is to become one, of unity; but these divisions and +additions, and other such subtleties, you would dismiss, leaving +them to be given as answers by persons wiser than yourself; whereas +you, fearing, as it is said, your own shadow and inexperience, +would adhere to this safe hypothesis, and answer accordingly? But +if any one should assail this hypothesis of yours, would you not +dismiss him, and refrain from answering him till you had considered +the consequences resulting from it, whether in your opinion they +agree with or differ from each other? But when it should be +necessary for you to give a reason for it, would you give one in a +similar way, by again laying down another hypothesis, which should +appear the best of higher principles, until you arrived at +something satisfactory; but, at the same time, you would avoid +making confusion, as disputants do, in treating of the first +principle and the results arising from it, if you really desire to +arrive at the truth of things? <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec116" name="phaedo_sec116">116</a>. For they, perhaps, +make no account at all of this, nor pay any attention to it; for +they are able, through their wisdom, to mingle all things together, +and at the same time please themselves. But you, <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page149' id='page149'></a>if you are a +philosopher, would act, I think, as I now describe."</p> + +<p>"You speak most truly," said Simmias and Cebes together.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Echec.</span> By Jupiter! Phædo, +they said so with good reason; for he appears to me to have +explained these things with wonderful clearness, even to one endued +with a small degree of intelligence.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Phæd.</span> Certainly, +Echecrates, and so it appeared to all who were present.</p> + +<p><span class="speakername">Echec.</span> And so it appears to me, +who was absent, and now hear it related. But what was said after +this?</p> + +<p>As well as I remember, when these things had been granted him, +and it was allowed that each several idea exists of itself,<a id= +"footnotetag37" name="footnotetag37" href= +"#footnote37"><sup>37</sup></a> and that other things partaking of +them receive their denomination from them, he next asked: "If, +then," he said, "you admit that things are so, whether, when you +say that Simmias is greater than Socrates, but less than +Phædo, do you not then say that magnitude and littleness are +both in Simmias?"</p> + +<p>"I do."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec117" name= +"phaedo_sec117">117</a>. "And yet," he said, "you must confess that +Simmias's exceeding Socrates is not actually true in the manner in +which the words express it; for Simmias does not naturally exceed +Socrates in that he is Simmias, but in consequence of the magnitude +which he happens to have; nor, again, does he exceed Socrates +because Socrates is Socrates, but because Socrates possesses +littleness in comparison with his magnitude?"</p> + +<p>"True."</p> + +<p>"Nor, again, is Simmias exceeded by Phædo, because <a +class='pagenumber' name='page150' id='page150'></a>Phædo is +Phædo, but because Phædo possesses magnitude in +comparison with Simmias's littleness?"</p> + +<p>"It is so."</p> + +<p>"Thus, then, Simmias has the appellation of being both little +and great, being between both, by exceeding the littleness of one +through his own magnitude, and to the other yielding a magnitude +that exceeds his own littleness." And at the same time, smiling, he +said, "I seem to speak with the precision of a short-hand writer; +however, it is as I say."</p> + +<p>He allowed it.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec118" name= +"phaedo_sec118">118</a>. "But I say it for this reason, wishing you +to be of the same opinion as myself. For it appears to me, not only +that magnitude itself is never disposed to be at the same time +great and little, but that magnitude in us never admits the little +nor is disposed to be exceeded, but one of two things, either to +flee and withdraw when its contrary, the little, approaches it, or, +when it has actually come, to perish; but that it is not disposed, +by sustaining and receiving littleness, to be different from what +it was. Just as I, having received and sustained littleness, and +still continuing the person that I am, am this same little person; +but that, while it is great, never endures to be little. And, in +like manner, the little that is in us is not disposed at any time +to become or to be great, nor is any thing else among contraries, +while it continues what it was, at the same time disposed to become +and to be its contrary; but in this contingency it either departs +or perishes."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec119" name= +"phaedo_sec119">119</a>. "It appears so to me," said Cebes, "in +every respect."</p> + +<p>But some one of those present, on hearing this, I do not clearly +remember who he was, said, "By the gods! was not the very contrary +of what is now asserted admitted in the former part of our +discussion, that the greater is produced <a class='pagenumber' +name='page151' id='page151'></a>from the less, and the less from +the greater, and, in a word, that the very production of contraries +is from contraries? But now it appears to me to be asserted that +this can never be the case."</p> + +<p>Upon this Socrates, having leaned his head forward and listened, +said, "You have reminded me in a manly way; you do not, however, +perceive the difference between what is now and what was then +asserted. For then it was said that a contrary thing is produced +from a contrary; but now, that a contrary can never become contrary +to itself—neither that which is in us, nor that which is in +nature. For then, my friend, we spoke of things that have +contraries, calling them by the appellation of those things; but +now we are speaking of those very things from the presence of which +things so called receive their appellation, and of these very +things we say that they are never disposed to admit of production +from each other." <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec120" name= +"phaedo_sec120">120</a>. And, at the same time looking at Cebes, +"Has anything that has been said, Cebes, disturbed you?"</p> + +<p>"Indeed," said Cebes, "I am not at all so disposed; however, I +by no means say that there are not many things that disturb +me."</p> + +<p>"Then," he continued, "we have quite agreed to this, that a +contrary can never be contrary to itself."</p> + +<p>"Most certainly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"But, further," he said, "consider whether you will agree with +me in this also. Do you call heat and cold any thing?"</p> + +<p>"I do."</p> + +<p>"The same as snow and fire?"</p> + +<p>"By Jupiter! I do not."</p> + +<p>"But heat is something different from fire, and cold something +different from snow?"</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page152' id='page152'></a>Yes."</p> + +<p>"But this, I think, is apparent to you—that snow, while it +is snow, can never, when it has admitted heat, as we said before, +continue to be what it was, snow and hot; but, on the approach of +heat, it must either withdraw or perish?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"And, again, that fire, when cold approaches it, must either +depart or perish; but that it will never endure, when it has +admitted coldness, to continue what it was, fire and cold?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec121" name= +"phaedo_sec121">121</a>. "You speak truly," he said.</p> + +<p>"It happens, then," he continued, "with respect to some of such +things, that not only is the idea itself always thought worthy of +the same appellation, but likewise something else which is not, +indeed, that idea itself, but constantly retains its form so long +as it exists. What I mean will perhaps be clearer in the following +examples: the odd in number must always possess the name by which +we now call it, must it not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"Must it alone, of all things—for this I ask—or is +there any thing else which is not the same as the odd, but yet +which we must always call odd, together with its own name, because +it is so constituted by nature that it can never be without the +odd? But this, I say, is the case with the number three, and many +others. For consider with respect to the number three: does it not +appear to you that it must always be called by its own name, as +well as by that of the odd, which is not the same as the number +three? Yet such is the nature of the number three, five, and the +entire half of number, that though they are not the same as the +odd, yet each of them is always odd. And, again, two and four, and +the whole other series of number, though not the same <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page153' id='page153'></a>as the even, are +nevertheless each of them always even: do you admit this, or +not?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec122" name= +"phaedo_sec122">122</a>. "How should I not?" he replied.</p> + +<p>"Observe then," said he, "what I wish to prove. It is +this—that it appears not only that these contraries do not +admit each other, but that even such things as are not contrary to +each other, and yet always possess contraries, do not appear to +admit that idea which is contrary to the idea that exists in +themselves, but, when it approaches, perish or depart. Shall we not +allow that the number three would first perish, and suffer any +thing whatever, rather than endure, while it is still three, to +become even?"</p> + +<p>"Most certainly," said Cebes.</p> + +<p>"And yet," said he, "the number two is not contrary to +three."</p> + +<p>"Surely not."</p> + +<p>"Not only, then, do ideas that are contrary never allow the +approach of each other, but some other things also do not allow the +approach of contraries."</p> + +<p>"You say very truly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Do you wish, then," he said, "that, if we are able, we should +define what these things are?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"Would they not then, Cebes," he said, "be such things as, +whatever they occupy, compel that thing not only to retain its own +idea, but also that of something which is always a contrary?"</p> + +<p>"How do you mean?"</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec123" name= +"phaedo_sec123">123</a>. "As we just now said. For you know, +surely, that whatever things the idea of three occupies must of +necessity not only be three, but also odd?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page154' id='page154'></a>To such a +thing, then, we assert, that the idea contrary to that form which +constitutes this can never come."</p> + +<p>"It can not."</p> + +<p>"But did the odd make it so?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"And is the contrary to this the idea of the even?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"The idea of the even, then, will never come to the three?"</p> + +<p>"No, surely."</p> + +<p>"Three, then, has no part in the even?"</p> + +<p>"None whatever."</p> + +<p>"The number three is uneven?"</p> + +<p>"Yes."</p> + +<p>"What, therefore, I said should be defined—namely, what +things they are which, though not contrary to some particular +thing, yet do not admit of the contrary itself; as, in the present +instance, the number three, though not contrary to the even, does +not any the more admit it, for it always brings the contrary with +it, just as the number two does to the odd, fire to cold, and many +other particulars. Consider, then, whether you would thus define, +not only that a contrary does not admit a contrary, but also that +that which brings with it a contrary to that to which it approaches +will never admit the contrary of that which it brings with it. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec124" name= +"phaedo_sec124">124</a>. But call it to mind again, for it will not +be useless to hear it often repeated. Five will not admit the idea +of the even, nor ten, its double, that of the odd. This double, +then, though it is itself contrary to something else,<a id= +"footnotetag38" name="footnotetag38" href= +"#footnote38"><sup>38</sup></a> yet will not admit the idea of the +odd, nor will half as much again, nor other things of the kind, +such as the <a class='pagenumber' name='page155' id= +'page155'></a>half and the third part, admit the idea of the whole, +if you follow me, and agree with me that it is so."</p> + +<p>"I entirely agree with you," he said, "and follow you."</p> + +<p>"Tell me again, then," he said, "from the beginning; and do not +answer me in the terms in which I put the question, but in +different ones, imitating my example. For I say this because, +besides that safe mode of answering which I mentioned at first,<a +id="footnotetag39" name="footnotetag39" href= +"#footnote39"><sup>39</sup></a> from what has now been said, I see +another no less safe one. For if you should ask me what that is +which, if it be in the body, will cause it to be hot, I should not +give you that safe but unlearned answer, that it is heat, but one +more elegant, from what we have just now said, that it is fire; +nor, if you should ask me what that is which, if it be in the body, +will cause it to be diseased, should I say that it is disease, but +fever; nor if you should ask what that is which, if it be in +number, will cause it to be odd, should I say that it is +unevenness, but unity; and so with other things. But consider +whether you sufficiently understand what I mean."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec125" name= +"phaedo_sec125">125</a>. "Perfectly so," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Answer me, then," he said, "what that is which, when it is in +the body, the body will be alive?"</p> + +<p>"Soul," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Is not this, then, always the case?"</p> + +<p>"How should it not be?" said he.</p> + +<p>"Does the soul, then, always bring life to whatever it +occupies?"</p> + +<p>"It does indeed," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Whether, then, is there any thing contrary to life or not?"</p> + +<p>"There is," he replied.</p> + +<p>"What?"</p> + +<p>"Death."</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page156' id='page156'></a>The soul, +then, will never admit the contrary of that which it brings with +it, as has been already allowed?"</p> + +<p>"Most assuredly," replied Cebes.</p> + +<p>"What, then? How do we denominate that which does not admit the +idea of the even?"</p> + +<p>"Uneven," he replied.</p> + +<p>"And that which does not admit the just, nor the musical?"</p> + +<p>"Unmusical," he said, "and unjust."</p> + +<p>"Be it so. But what do we call that which does not admit +death?"</p> + +<p>"Immortal," he replied.</p> + +<p>"Therefore, does not the soul admit death?"</p> + +<p>"No."</p> + +<p>"Is the soul, then, immortal?"</p> + +<p>"Immortal."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec126" name= +"phaedo_sec126">126</a>. "Be it so," he said. "Shall we say, then, +that this has been now demonstrated? or how think you?"</p> + +<p>"Most completely, Socrates."</p> + +<p>"What, then," said he, "Cebes, if it were necessary for the +uneven to be imperishable, would the number three be otherwise than +imperishable?"</p> + +<p>"How should it not?"</p> + +<p>"If, therefore, it were also necessary that what is without heat +should be imperishable, when any one should introduce heat to snow, +would not the snow withdraw itself, safe and unmelted? For it would +not perish; nor yet would it stay and admit the heat."</p> + +<p>"You say truly," he replied.</p> + +<p>"In like manner, I think, if that which is insusceptible of cold +were imperishable, that when any thing cold approached the fire, it +would neither be extinguished nor perish, but would depart quite +safe."</p> + +<p>"<a class='pagenumber' name='page157' id='page157'></a>Of +necessity," he said.</p> + +<p>"Must we not, then, of necessity," he continued, "speak thus of +that which is immortal? if that which is immortal is imperishable, +it is impossible for the soul to perish, when death approaches it. +For, from what has been said already, it will not admit death, nor +will ever be dead; just as we said that three will never be even, +nor, again, will the odd; nor will fire be cold, nor yet the heat +that is in fire. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec127" name= +"phaedo_sec127">127</a>. But some one may say, what hinders, though +the odd can never become even by the approach of the even, as we +have allowed, yet, when the odd is destroyed, that the even should +succeed in its place? We could not contend with him who should make +this objection that it is not destroyed, for the uneven is not +imperishable; since, if this were granted us, we might easily have +contended that, on the approach of the even, the odd and the three +depart; and we might have contended in the same way with respect to +fire, heat, and the rest, might we not?"</p> + +<p>"Certainly."</p> + +<p>"Wherefore, with respect to the immortal, if we have allowed +that it is imperishable, the soul, in addition to its being +immortal, must also be imperishable; if not, there will be need of +other arguments."</p> + +<p>"But there is no need," he said, "so far as that is concerned; +for scarcely could any thing not admit of corruption, if that which +is immortal and eternal is liable to it."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec128" name= +"phaedo_sec128">128</a>. "The deity, indeed, I think," said +Socrates, "and the idea itself of life, and if anything else is +immortal, must be allowed by all beings to be incapable of +dissolution."</p> + +<p>"By Jupiter!" he replied, "by all men, indeed, and still more, +as I think, by the gods."</p> + +<p>"Since, then, that which is immortal is also incorruptible, <a +class='pagenumber' name='page158' id='page158'></a>can the soul, +since it is immortal, be any thing else than imperishable?"</p> + +<p>"It must, of necessity, be so."</p> + +<p>"When, therefore, death approaches a man, the mortal part of +him, as it appears, dies, but the immortal part departs safe and +uncorrupted, having withdrawn itself from death?"</p> + +<p>"It appears so."</p> + +<p>"The soul, therefore," he said, "Cebes, is most certainly +immortal and imperishable, and our souls will really exist in +Hades."</p> + +<p>"Therefore, Socrates," he said, "I have nothing further to say +against this, nor any reason for doubting your arguments. But if +Simmias here, or any one else, has any thing to say, it were well +for him not to be silent; for I know not to what other opportunity +beyond the present any one can defer it, who wishes either to speak +or hear about these things."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec129" name= +"phaedo_sec129">129</a>. "But, indeed," said Simmias, "neither have +I any reason to doubt what has been urged; yet, from the magnitude +of the subject discussed, and from my low opinion of human +weakness, I am compelled still to retain a doubt within myself with +respect to what has been said."</p> + +<p>"Not only so, Simmias," said Socrates, "but you say this well; +and, moreover, the first hypotheses, even though they are credible +to you, should nevertheless be examined more carefully; and if you +should investigate them sufficiently, I think you will follow my +reasoning as far as it is possible for man to do so; and if this +very point becomes clear, you will inquire no further."</p> + +<p>"You speak truly," he said.</p> + +<p>"But it is right, my friends," he said, "that we should consider +this—- that if the soul is immortal, it requires our <a +class='pagenumber' name='page159' id='page159'></a>care not only +for the present time, which we call life, but for all time; and the +danger would now appear to be dreadful if one should neglect it. <a +class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec130" name= +"phaedo_sec130">130</a>. For if death were a deliverance from every +thing, it would be a great gain for the wicked, when they die, to +be delivered at the same time from the body, and from their vices +together with the soul; but now, since it appears to be immortal, +it can have no other refuge from evils, nor safety, except by +becoming as good and wise as possible. For the soul goes to Hades +possessing nothing else than its discipline and education, which +are said to be of the greatest advantage or detriment to the dead, +on the very beginning of his journey thither. For, thus, it is said +that each person's demon who was assigned to him while living, when +he dies conducts him to some place, where they that are assembled +together must receive sentence, and then proceed to Hades with that +guide who has been ordered to conduct them from hence thither. But +there having received their deserts, and having remained the +appointed time, another guide brings them back hither again, after +many and long revolutions of time. The journey, then, is not such +as the Telephus of Æschylus describes it; for he says that a +simple path leads to Hades; but it appears to me to be neither +simple nor one, for there would be no need of guides, nor could any +one ever miss the way, if there were but one. But now it appears to +have many divisions and windings; and this I conjecture from our +religious and funeral rites.<a id="footnotetag40" name= +"footnotetag40" href="#footnote40"><sup>40</sup></a> <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec131" name="phaedo_sec131">131</a>. +The well-ordered and wise soul, then, both follows, and is not +ignorant of its present condition; but that which through passion +clings <a class='pagenumber' name='page160' id='page160'></a>to the +body, as I said before, having longingly fluttered about it for a +long time, and about its visible place,<a id="footnotetag41" name= +"footnotetag41" href="#footnote41"><sup>41</sup></a> after vehement +resistance and great suffering, is forcibly and with great +difficulty led away by its appointed demon. And when it arrives at +the place where the others are, impure and having done any such +thing as the committal of unrighteous murders or other similar +actions, which are kindred to these, and are the deeds of kindred +souls, every one shuns it and turns away from it, and will be +neither its fellow-traveler nor guide; but it wanders about, +oppressed with every kind of helplessness, until certain periods +have elapsed; and when these are completed, it is carried, of +necessity, to an abode suitable to it. But the soul which has +passed through life with purity and moderation, having obtained the +gods for its fellow-travelers and guides, settles each in the place +suited to it. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec132" name= +"phaedo_sec132">132</a>. There are, indeed, many and wonderful +places in the earth, and it is itself neither of such a kind nor of +such a magnitude as is supposed by those who are accustomed to +speak of the earth, as I have been persuaded by a certain +person."</p> + +<p>Whereupon Simmias said, "How mean you, Socrates? For I, too, +have heard many things about the earth—not, however, those +things which have obtained your belief. I would, therefore, gladly +hear them."</p> + +<p>"Indeed, Simmias, the art of Glaucus<a id="footnotetag42" name= +"footnotetag42" href="#footnote42"><sup>42</sup></a> does not seem +to me to be required to relate what these things are. That they are +true, however, appears to me more than the art of Glaucus can +prove, and, besides, I should probably not be able to do it; and +even if I did know how, what remains to me of life, Simmias, seems +insufficient for the length of the <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page161' id='page161'></a>subject. However, the form of the earth, +such as I am persuaded it is, and the different places in it, +nothing hinders me from telling."</p> + +<p>"But that will be enough," said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"I am persuaded, then," said he, "in the first place, that, if +the earth is in the middle of the heavens, and is of a spherical +form, it has no need of air, nor of any other similar force, to +prevent it from falling; but that the similarity of the heavens to +themselves on every side, and the equilibrium of the earth itself, +are sufficient to support it; for a thing in a state of equilibrium +when placed in the middle of something that presses it equally on +all sides can not incline more or less on any side, but, being +equally affected all around, remains unmoved. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec133" name="phaedo_sec133">133</a>. In +the first place, then," he said, "I am persuaded of this."</p> + +<p>"And very properly so," said Simmias.</p> + +<p>"Yet, further," said he, "that it is very large, and that we who +inhabit some small portion of it, from the river Phasis to the +pillars of Hercules, dwell about the sea, like ants or frogs about +a marsh; and that many others elsewhere dwell in many similar +places, for that there are everywhere about the earth many hollows +of various forms and sizes into which there is a confluence of +water, mist and air; but that the earth itself, being pure, is +situated in the pure heavens, in which are the stars, and which +most persons who are accustomed to speak about such things call +ether; of which these things are the sediment, and are continually +flowing into the hollow parts of the earth. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec134" name="phaedo_sec134">134</a>. +That we are ignorant, then, that we are dwelling in its hollows, +and imagine that we inhabit the upper parts of the earth, just as +if any one dwelling in the bottom of the sea should think that he +dwelt on the sea, and, beholding the sun and the other stars +through the water, should imagine <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page162' id='page162'></a>that the sea was the heavens; but, +through sloth and weakness, should never have reached the surface +of the sea; nor, having emerged and risen up from the sea to this +region, have seen how much more pure and more beautiful it is than +the place where he is, nor has heard of it from any one else who +has seen it. This, then, is the very condition in which we are; +for, dwelling in some hollow of the earth, we think that we dwell +on the surface of it, and call the air heaven, as if the stars +moved through this, being heaven itself. But this is because, by +reason of our weakness and sloth, we are unable to reach to the +summit of the air. Since, if any one could arrive at its summit, +or, becoming winged, could fly up thither, or, emerging from hence, +he would see—just as with us, fishes, emerging from the sea, +behold what is here, so any one would behold the things there; and +if his nature were able to endure the contemplation, he would know +that that is the true heaven, and the true light, and the true +earth. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec135" name= +"phaedo_sec135">135</a>. For this earth and these stones, and the +whole region here, are decayed and corroded, as things in the sea +by the saltness; for nothing of any value grows in the sea, nor, in +a word, does it contain any thing perfect; but there are caverns +and sand, and mud in abundance, and filth, in whatever parts of the +sea there is earth, nor are they at all worthy to be compared with +the beautiful things with us. But, on the other hand, those things +in the upper regions of the earth would appear far more to excel +the things with us. For, if we may tell a beautiful fable, it is +well worth hearing, Simmias, what kind the things are on the earth +beneath the heavens."</p> + +<p>"Indeed, Socrates," said Simmias, "we should be very glad to +hear that fable."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec136" name= +"phaedo_sec136">136</a>. "First of all, then, my friend," he +continued, "this earth, if any one should survey it from above, is +said to have <a class='pagenumber' name='page163' id= +'page163'></a>the appearance of balls covered with twelve different +pieces of leather, variegated and distinguished with colors, of +which the colors found here, and which painters use, are, as it +were, copies. But there the whole earth is composed of such, and +far more brilliant and pure than these; for one part of it is +purple, and of wonderful beauty, part of a golden color, and part +of white, more white than chalk or snow, and, in like manner, +composed of other colors, and those more in number and more +beautiful than any we have ever beheld. And those very hollow parts +of the earth, though filled with water and air, exhibit a certain +species of color, shining among the variety of other colors, so +that one continually variegated aspect presents itself to the view. +In this earth, being such, all things that grow, grow in a manner +proportioned to its nature—trees, flowers and fruits; and, +again, in like manner, its mountains and stones possess, in the +same proportion, smoothness and transparency, and more beautiful +colors; of which the well-known stones here that are so highly +prized are but fragments, such as sardine-stones, jaspers, and +emeralds, and all of that kind. But there, there is nothing +subsists that is not of this character, and even more beautiful +than these. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec137" name= +"phaedo_sec137">137</a>. But the reason of this is, because the +stones there are pure, and not eaten up and decayed, like those +here, by rottenness and saltness, which flow down hither together, +and which produce deformity and disease in the stones and the +earth, and in other things, even animals and plants. But that earth +is adorned with all these, and, moreover, with gold and silver, and +other things of the kind: for they are naturally conspicuous, being +numerous and large, and in all parts of the earth; so that to +behold it is a sight for the blessed. There are also many other +animals and men upon it, some dwelling in mid-earth, others about +the air, as we do about the sea, and others <a class='pagenumber' +name='page164' id='page164'></a>in islands which the air flows +round, and which are near the continent; and, in one word, what +water and the sea are to us, for our necessities, the air is to +them; and what air is to us, that ether is to them. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec138" name="phaedo_sec138">138</a>. +But their seasons are of such a temperament that they are free from +disease, and live for a much longer time than those here, and +surpass us in sight, hearing, and smelling, and every thing of this +kind, as much as air excels water, and ether air, in purity. +Moreover, they have abodes and temples of the gods, in which gods +really dwell, and voices and oracles, and sensible visions of the +gods, and such-like intercourse with them; the sun, too, and moon, +and stars, are seen by them such as they really are, and their +felicity in other respects is correspondent with these things."</p> + +<p>"And, such, indeed, is the nature of the whole earth, and the +parts about the earth; but there are many places all round it +throughout its cavities, some deeper and more open than that in +which we dwell; but others that are deeper have a less chasm than +our region, and others are shallower in depth than it is here, and +broader. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec139" name= +"phaedo_sec139">139</a>. But all these are in many places +perforated one into another under the earth, some with narrower and +some with wider channels, and have passages through, by which a +great quantity of water flows from one into another, as into +basins, and there are immense bulks of ever-flowing rivers under +the earth, both of hot and cold water, and a great quantity of +fire, and mighty rivers of fire, and many of liquid mire, some +purer, and some more miry, as in Sicily there are rivers of mud +that flow before the lava, and the lava itself, and from these the +several places are filled, according as the overflow from time to +time happens to come to each of them. But all these move up and +down, as it were, by a certain oscillation existing in the earth. +And this oscillation proceeds from such <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page165' id='page165'></a>natural cause as this; one of the chasms +of the earth is exceedingly large, and perforated through the +entire earth, and is that which Homer<a id="footnotetag43" name= +"footnotetag43" href="#footnote43"><sup>43</sup></a> speaks of, +'very far off, where is the most profound abyss beneath the earth,' +which elsewhere both he and many other poets have called Tartarus. +For into this chasm all rivers flow together, and from it flow out +again; but they severally derive their character from the earth +through which they flow. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec140" name="phaedo_sec140">140</a>. And the reason why +all streams flow out from thence, and flow into it, is because this +liquid has neither bottom nor base. Therefore, it oscillates and +fluctuates up and down, and the air and the wind around it do the +same; for they accompany it both when it rushes to those parts of +the earth, and when to these. And as in respiration the flowing +breath is continually breathed out and drawn in, so there the wind +oscillating with the liquid causes certain vehement and +irresistible winds both as it enters and goes out. When, therefore, +the water rushing in descends to the place which we call the lower +region, it flows through the earth into the streams there, and +fills them, just as men pump up water. But when again it leaves +those regions and rushes hither, it again fills the rivers here; +and these, when filled, flow through channels and through the +earth, and, having severally reached the several places to which +they are journeying, they make seas, lakes, rivers, and fountains. +<a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec141" name= +"phaedo_sec141">141</a>. Then, sinking again from thence beneath +the earth, some of them having gone round longer and more numerous +places, and others round fewer and shorter, they again discharge +themselves into Tartarus—some much lower than they were drawn +up, others only a little so; but all of them flow in again beneath +the point at which they flowed out. And some issue out directly +opposite the place <a class='pagenumber' name='page166' id= +'page166'></a>by which they flow in, others on the same side. There +are also some which, having gone round altogether in a circle, +folding themselves once or several times round the earth, like +serpents, when they have descended as low as possible, discharge +themselves again; and it is possible for them to descend on either +side as far as the middle, but not beyond; for in each direction +there is an acclivity to the streams both ways."</p> + +<p>"Now, there are many other large and various streams; but among +this great number there are four certain streams, of which the +largest, and that which flows most outwardly round the earth, is +called Ocean; but directly opposite this, and flowing in a contrary +direction, is Acheron, which flows through other desert places, +and, moreover, passing under the earth, reaches the Acherusian +lake, where the souls of most who die arrive; and, having remained +there for certain destined periods, some longer and some shorter, +are again sent forth into the generations of animals. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec142" name="phaedo_sec142">142</a>. A +third river issues midway between these, and, near its source, +falls into a vast region, burning with abundance of fire, and forms +a lake larger than our sea, boiling with water and mud. From hence +it proceeds in a circle, turbulent and muddy, and, folding itself +round it, reaches both other places and the extremity of the +Acherusian lake, but does not mingle with its water; but, folding +itself oftentimes beneath the earth, it discharges itself into the +lower parts of Tartarus. And this is the river which they call +Pyriphlegethon, whose burning streams emit dissevered fragments in +whatever part of the earth they happen to be. Opposite to this, +again, the fourth river first falls into a place dreadful and +savage, as it is said, having its whole color like cyanus:<a id= +"footnotetag44" name="footnotetag44" href= +"#footnote44"><sup>44</sup></a> this they call Stygian, and the +lake which the <a class='pagenumber' name='page167' id= +'page167'></a>river forms by its discharge, Styx. This river, +having fallen in here, and received awful power in the water, +sinking beneath the earth, proceeds, folding itself round, in an +opposite course to Pyriphlegethon, and meets it in the Acherusian +lake from, a contrary direction. Neither does the water of this +river mingle with any other; but it, too, having gone round in a +circle, discharges itself into Tartarus, opposite to +Pyriphlegethon. Its name, as the poets say, is Cocytus."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec143" name= +"phaedo_sec143">143</a>. "These things being thus constituted, when +the dead arrive at the place to which their demon leads them +severally, first of all they are judged, as well those who have +lived well and piously, as those who have not. And those who appear +to have passed a middle kind of life, proceeding to Acheron, and +embarking in the vessels they have, on these arrive at the lake, +and there dwell; and when they are purified, and have suffered +punishment for the iniquities they may have committed, they are set +free, and each receives the reward of his good deeds, according to +his deserts. But those who appear to be incurable, through the +magnitude of their offenses, either from having committed many and +great sacrileges, or many unjust and lawless murders, or other +similar crimes, these a suitable destiny hurls into Tartarus, +whence they never come forth. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec144" name="phaedo_sec144">144</a>. But those who appear +to have been guilty of curable yet great offenses—such as +those who, through anger, have committed any violence against +father or mother, and have lived the remainder of their life in a +state of penitence, or they who have become homicides in a similar +manner—these must, of necessity, fall into Tartarus. But +after they have fallen, and have been there for a year, the wave +casts them forth, <a class='pagenumber' name='page168' id= +'page168'></a>the homicides into Cocytus, but the parricides and +matricides into Pyriphlegethon. But when, being borne along, they +arrive at the Acherusian lake, there they cry out to and invoke, +some those whom they slew, others those whom they injured, and, +invoking them, they entreat and implore them to suffer them to go +out into the lake, and to receive them, and if they persuade them, +they go out, and are freed from their sufferings, but if not, they +are borne back to Tartarus, and thence again to the rivers. And +they do not cease from suffering this until they have persuaded +those whom they have injured, for this sentence was imposed on them +by the judges. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec145" name= +"phaedo_sec145">145</a>. But those who are found to have lived an +eminently holy life, these are they who, being freed and set at +large from these regions in the earth as from a prison, arrive at +the pure abode above, and dwell on the upper parts of the earth. +And among these, they who have sufficiently purified themselves by +philosophy shall live without bodies, throughout all future time, +and shall arrive at habitations yet more beautiful than these which +it is neither easy to describe, nor at present is there sufficient +time for the purpose."</p> + +<p>"But, for the sake of these things which we have described, we +should use every endeavor, Simmias, so as to acquire virtue and +wisdom in this life, for the reward is noble, and the hope +great."</p> + +<p>"To affirm positively, indeed, that these things are exactly as +I have described them does not become a man of sense. That, +however, either this, or something of the kind, takes place with +respect to our souls and their habitations—since our soul is +certainly immortal—this appears to me most fitting to be +believed, and worthy the hazard for one who trusts in its reality; +for the hazard is noble, and it is right to allure ourselves with +such things, as with enchantments, <a class='pagenumber' name= +'page169' id='page169'></a>for which reason I have prolonged my +story to such a length. <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec146" +name="phaedo_sec146">146</a>. On account of these things, then, a +man ought to be confident about his soul who, during this life, has +disregarded all the pleasures and ornaments of the body as foreign +from his nature, and who, having thought that they do more harm +than good, has zealously applied himself to the acquirement of +knowledge, and who, having adorned his soul, not with a foreign, +but its own proper ornament—temperance, justice, fortitude, +freedom, and truth—thus waits for his passage to Hades, as +one who is ready to depart whenever destiny shall summon him. You, +then," he continued, "Simmias and Cebes, and the rest, will each of +you depart at some future time, but now destiny summons me, as a +tragic writer would say, and it is nearly time for me to betake +myself to the bath, for it appears to me to be better to drink the +poison after I have bathed myself, and not to trouble the women +with washing my dead body."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec147" name= +"phaedo_sec147">147</a>. When he had thus spoken, Crito said, "So +be it, Socrates, but what commands have you to give to these or to +me, either respecting your children, or any other matter, in +attending to which we can most oblige you?"</p> + +<p>"What I always say, Crito," he replied, "nothing new that by +taking care of yourselves you will oblige both me and mine, and +yourselves, whatever you do, though you should not now promise it, +and if you neglect yourselves, and will not live, as it were, in +the footsteps of what has been now and formerly said, even though +you should promise much at present, and that earnestly, you will do +no good at all."</p> + +<p>"We will endeavor, then, so to do," he said. "But how shall we +bury you?"</p> + +<p>"Just as you please," he said, "if only you can catch <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page170' id='page170'></a>me, and I do not +escape from you." <a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec148" name= +"phaedo_sec148">148</a>. And, at the same time smiling gently, and +looking round on us, he said, "I cannot persuade Crito, my friends, +that I am that Socrates who is now conversing with you, and who +methodizes each part of the discourse; but he thinks that I am he +whom he will shortly behold dead, and asks how he should bury me. +But that which I some time since argued at length, that when I have +drunk the poison I shall no longer remain with you, but shall +depart to some happy state of the blessed, this I seem to have +urged to him in vain, though I meant at the same time to console +both you and myself. Be ye, then, my sureties to Crito," he said, +"in an obligation contrary to that which he made to the judges (for +he undertook that I should remain); but do you be sureties that, +when I die, I shall not remain, but shall depart, that Crito may +more easily bear it; and, when he sees my body either burned or +buried, may not be afflicted for me, as if I suffered from some +dreadful thing; nor say at my interment that Socrates is laid out, +or is carried out, or is buried. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec149" name="phaedo_sec149">149</a>. For be well assured," +he said, "most excellent Crito, that to speak improperly is not +only culpable as to the thing itself, but likewise occasions some +injury to our souls. You must have a good courage, then, and say +that you bury my body, and bury it in such a manner as is pleasing +to you, and as you think is most agreeable to our laws."</p> + +<p>When he had said thus, he rose, and went into a chamber to +bathe, and Crito followed him, but he directed us to wait for him. +We waited, therefore, conversing among ourselves about what had +been said, and considering it again, and sometimes speaking about +our calamity, how severe it would be to us, sincerely thinking +that, like those who are deprived of a father, we should pass the +rest of our life as orphans. When he had bathed, and his children +were <a class='pagenumber' name='page171' id='page171'></a>brought +to him (for he had two little sons and one grown up), and the women +belonging to his family were come, having conversed with them in +the presence of Crito, and given them such injunctions as he +wished, he directed the women and children to go away, and then +returned to us. And it was now near sunset; for he spent a +considerable time within. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec150" name="phaedo_sec150">150</a>. But when he came from +bathing he sat down, and did not speak much afterward; then the +officer of the Eleven came in, and, standing near him, said, +"Socrates, I shall not have to find that fault with you that I do +with others, that they are angry with me, and curse me, when, by +order of the archons, I bid them drink the poison. But you, on all +other occasions during the time you have been here, I have found to +be the most noble, meek, and excellent man of all that ever came +into this place; and, therefore, I am now well convinced that you +will not be angry with me (for you know who are to blame), but with +them. Now, then (for you know what I came to announce to you), +farewell, and endeavor to bear what is inevitable as easily as +possible." And at the same time, bursting into tears, he turned +away and withdrew.</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec151" name= +"phaedo_sec151">151</a>. And Socrates, looking after him, said, +"And thou, too, farewell. We will do as you direct." At the same +time turning to us, he said, "How courteous the man is! During the +whole time I have been here he has visited me, and conversed with +me sometimes, and proved the worthiest of men; and now how +generously he weeps for me! But come, Crito, let us obey him, and +let some one bring the poison, if it is ready pounded; but if not, +let the man pound it."</p> + +<p>Then Crito said, "But I think, Socrates, that the sun is still +on the mountains, and has not yet set. Besides, I know that others +have drunk the poison very late, after it <a class='pagenumber' +name='page172' id='page172'></a>had been announced to them, and +have supped and drunk freely, and some even have enjoyed the +objects of their love. Do not hasten, then, for there is yet +time."</p> + +<p>Upon this Socrates replied, "These men whom you mention, Crito, +do these things with good reason, for they think they shall gain by +so doing; and I, too, with good reason, shall not do so; for I +think I shall gain nothing by drinking a little later, except to +become ridiculous to myself, in being so fond of life, and sparing +of it, when none any longer remains. Go then," he said, "obey, and +do not resist."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec152" name= +"phaedo_sec152">152</a>. Crito, having heard this, nodded to the +boy that stood near. And the boy, having gone out and staid for +some time, came, bringing with him the man that was to administer +the poison, who brought it ready pounded in a cup. And Socrates, on +seeing the man, said, "Well, my good friend, as you are skilled in +these matters, what must I do?"</p> + +<p>"Nothing else," he replied, "than, when you have drunk it, walk +about until there is a heaviness in your legs; then lie down: thus +it will do its purpose." And at the same time he held out the cup +to Socrates. And he having received it very cheerfully, Echecrates +neither trembling, nor changing at all in color or countenance, +but, as he was wont, looking steadfastly at the man, said, "What +say you of this potion, with respect to making a libation to any +one, is it lawful or not?"</p> + +<p>"We only pound so much, Socrates," he said, "as we think +sufficient to drink."</p> + +<p><a class="sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec153" name= +"phaedo_sec153">153</a>. "I understand you," he said; "but it is +certainly both lawful and right to pray to the gods, that my +departure hence thither may be happy; which, therefore, I pray, and +so may it be." And as he said this, he drank it off readily and +calmly. Thus far, most of us were with difficulty able <a class= +'pagenumber' name='page173' id='page173'></a>to restrain ourselves +from weeping; but when we saw him drinking, and having finished the +draught, we could do so no longer; but, in spite of myself, the +tears came in full torrent, so that, covering my face, I wept for +myself; for I did not weep for him, but for my own fortune, in +being deprived of such a friend. But Crito, even before me, when he +could not restrain his tears, had risen up. <a class= +"sectionnumber" id="phaedo_sec154" name="phaedo_sec154">154</a>. +But Apollodorus, even before this, had not ceased weeping; and +then, bursting into an agony of grief, weeping and lamenting, he +pierced the heart of every one present, except Socrates himself. +But he said, "What are you doing, my admirable friends? I, indeed, +for this reason chiefly, sent away the women, that they might not +commit any folly of this kind. For I have heard that it is right to +die with good omens. Be quiet, therefore, and bear up."</p> + +<p>When we heard this, we were ashamed, and restrained our tears. +But he, having walked about, when he said that his legs were +growing heavy, lay down on his back; for the man had so directed +him. And, at the same time, he who gave the poison taking hold of +him, after a short interval, examined his feet and legs; and then, +having pressed his foot hard, he asked if he felt it: he said that +he did not. And after this he pressed his thighs; and, thus going +higher, he showed us that he was growing cold and stiff. Then +Socrates touched himself, and said that when the poison reached his +heart he should then depart. <a class="sectionnumber" id= +"phaedo_sec155" name="phaedo_sec155">155</a>. But now the parts +around the lower belly were almost cold; when, uncovering himself, +for he had been covered over, he said (and they were his last +words), "Crito, we owe a cock to Æsculapius; pay it, +therefore; and do not neglect it."</p> + +<p>"It shall be done," said Crito; "but consider whether you have +any thing else to say."</p> + +<p>To this question he gave no reply; but, shortly after, he <a +class='pagenumber' name='page174' id='page174'></a>gave a +convulsive movement, and the man covered him, and his eyes were +fixed; and Crito, perceiving it, closed his mouth and eyes.</p> + +<p>This, Echecrates, was the end of our friend,—a man, as we +may say, the best of all of his time that we have known, and, +moreover, the most wise and just.</p> + +<h3>Footnotes</h3> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote25" name="footnote25" href= +"#footnotetag25">25</a>: Phlius, to which Echecrates belonged, was +a town of Sicyonia, in Peloponnesus.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote26" name="footnote26" href= +"#footnotetag26">26</a>: A Pythagorean of Crotona.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote27" name="footnote27" href= +"#footnotetag27">27</a>: Namely, "that it is better to die than to +live."</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote28" name="footnote28" href= +"#footnotetag28">28</a>: <span class= +"greek">Ἱττω</span>, Boetian for <span class= +"greek">ἱοτω</span>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote29" name="footnote29" href= +"#footnotetag29">29</a>: Of Pythagoras.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote30" name="footnote30" href= +"#footnotetag30">30</a>: Some boyish spirit.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote31" name="footnote31" href= +"#footnotetag31">31</a>: That is, at a time of life when the body +is in full vigor.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote32" name="footnote32" href= +"#footnotetag32">32</a>: In the original there is a play on the +words <span class="greek">Ἁιδης</span> +and <span class= +"greek">ἁεἱδης</span>, which I +can only attempt to retain by departing from the usual rendering of +the former word.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote33" name="footnote33" href= +"#footnotetag33">33</a>: By this I understand him to mean that the +soul alone can perceive the truth, but the senses, as they are +different, receive and convey different impressions of the same +thing; thus, the eye receives one impression of an object, the ear +a totally different one.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote34" name="footnote34" href= +"#footnotetag34">34</a>: <span class="greek">και +αὑθις +ετερος και +ετερος</span>, that is, +"with one argument after another" Though Cousin translates it <span +class="french">et successivement tout different de luimeme</span> +and Ast, <span class="latin">et rursus alia atque alia</span>, +which may be taken in either sense, yet it appears to me to mean +that, when a man repeatedly discovers the fallacy of arguments +which he before believed to be true, he distrusts reasoning +altogether, just as one who meets with friend after friend who +proves unfaithful becomes a misanthrope.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote35" name="footnote35" href= +"#footnotetag35">35</a>: Lib. xx, v. 7.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote36" name="footnote36" href= +"#footnotetag36">36</a>: Harmony was the wife of Cadmus, the +founder of Thebes; Socrates, therefore, compares his two Theban +friends, Simmias and Cebes, with them, and says that, having +overcome Simmias, the advocate of Harmony, he must now deal with +Cebes, who is represented by Cadmus.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote37" name="footnote37" href= +"#footnotetag37">37</a>: <span class= +"greek">εἱναι τι</span>, +literally, "is something."</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote38" name="footnote38" href= +"#footnotetag38">38</a>: That is, to single.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote39" name="footnote39" href= +"#footnotetag39">39</a>: Sec. <a href= +"#phaedo_sec113">113</a>.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote40" name="footnote40" href= +"#footnotetag40">40</a>: It is difficult to express the distinction +between <span class="greek">οσια</span> +and <span class="greek">νομιμα</span>. +The former word seems to have reference to the souls of the dead; +the latter, to their bodies.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote41" name="footnote41" href= +"#footnotetag41">41</a>: Its place of interment.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote42" name="footnote42" href= +"#footnotetag42">42</a>: A proverb meaning "a matter of great +difficulty."</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote43" name="footnote43" href= +"#footnotetag43">43</a>: "Iliad," lib. viii., v. 14.</div> + +<div class="footnote"><a id="footnote44" name="footnote44" href= +"#footnotetag44">44</a>: A metallic substance of a deep-blue color, +frequently mentioned by the earliest Grecian writers, but of which +the nature is unknown.</div> +</div> + + + + + + + +<pre> + + + + + +End of Project Gutenberg's Apology, Crito, and Phaedo of Socrates, by Plato + +*** END OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK APOLOGY, CRITO, AND PHAEDO *** + +***** This file should be named 13726-h.htm or 13726-h.zip ***** +This and all associated files of various formats will be found in: + https://www.gutenberg.org/1/3/7/2/13726/ + +Produced by Ted Garvin, Jussi Kukkonen and the Online Distributed +Proofreading Team. + + +Updated editions will replace the previous one--the old editions +will be renamed. + +Creating the works from public domain print editions means that no +one owns a United States copyright in these works, so the Foundation +(and you!) can copy and distribute it in the United States without +permission and without paying copyright royalties. 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You may copy it, give it away or +re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License included +with this eBook or online at www.gutenberg.org + + +Title: Apology, Crito, and Phaedo of Socrates + +Author: Plato + +Release Date: October 12, 2004 [EBook #13726] + +Language: English + +Character set encoding: ASCII + +*** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK APOLOGY, CRITO, AND PHAEDO *** + + + + +Produced by Ted Garvin, Jussi Kukkonen and the Online Distributed +Proofreading Team. + + + + + + + + + +PLATO'S + +APOLOGY, CRITO AND PHAEDO +OF +SOCRATES. + + + + +Literally Translated By + +HENRY CARY, M.A., +_Worcester College, Oxford_ + + + + +With An Introduction By + +EDWARD BROOKS, JR. + + + + +CONTENTS. + + +INTRODUCTION + +THE APOLOGY OF SOCRATES + +INTRODUCTION TO THE CRITO + +CRITO; OR, THE DUTY OF A CITIZEN + +INTRODUCTION TO THE PHAEDO + +PHAEDO; OR, THE IMMORTALITY OF THE SOUL + + + + +INTRODUCTION. + + +Of all writers of speculative philosophy, both ancient and modern, there +is probably no one who has attained so eminent a position as Plato. What +Homer was to Epic poetry, what Cicero and Demosthenes were to oratory, +and what Shakespeare was to the drama of England, Plato was to ancient +philosophy, not unapproachable nor unapproached, but possessing an +inexplicable but unquestioned supremacy. + +The authentic records of his life are meagre, and much that has been +written concerning him is of a speculative nature. He was born at Athens +in the year 427 B.C. His father's name was Ariston, and his mother's +family, which claimed its descent from Solon, included among its members +many Athenian notables, among whom was Oritias, one of the thirty +tyrants. + +In his early youth Plato applied himself to poetry and painting, both of +which pursuits he relinquished to become the disciple and follower of +Socrates. It is said that his name was originally Aristocles, but that +it was changed to Plato on account of the breadth of his shoulders and +forehead. He is also said to have been an expert wrestler and to have +taken part in several important battles. + +He was the devoted friend and pupil of Socrates, and during the +imprisonment of his master he attended him constantly, and committed to +writing his last discourses on the immortality of the soul. + +After the death of Socrates it is supposed that Plato took refuge with +Euclides in Megara, and subsequently extended his travels into Magna +Graecia and Egypt. + +Upon his return to Athens he taught those who came to him for +instruction in the grove named Academus, near the Cephisus, and thus +founded the first great philosophical school, over which he continued to +preside until the day of his death. Above the entrance to this grove was +inscribed the legend: "Let no one ignorant of geometry enter here." Here +he was attended by persons of every description, among the more +illustrious of whom were Aristotle, Lycurgus, Demosthenes and Isocrates. + +There is a story to the effect that Plato three times visited Sicily, +once upon the invitation of the elder Dionysius, and twice at the +earnest solicitations of the younger. The former he is said to have so +seriously offended as to cause the tyrant to have him seized on his +return home and sold as a slave, from which state of bondage he was, +however, released by Anicerius of Cyrene. + +The people of his time thought more of him than they did of all their +other philosophers, and called him the Divine Plato. So great was the +regard and veneration for him that it was considered better to err with +Plato than be right with any one else. + +The writings of Plato are numerous, and most of them are in the form of +dialogues. The following pages contain translations of three of his +works, viz.: "The Apologia," "The Crito" and "The Phaedo," all of which +have reference to the trial, imprisonment and death of Socrates. + +"The Apologia" represents Socrates on trial for his life, undertaking +his own defence, though unaccustomed to the language of the courts, the +occasion being, as he says, the first time he has ever been before a +court of justice, though seventy years of age. Plato was present at the +trial, and no doubt gives us the very arguments used by the accused. Two +charges were brought against Socrates--one that he did not believe in +the gods recognized by the State, the other that he had corrupted the +Athenian youth by his teachings. Socrates does not have recourse to the +ordinary methods adopted by orators on similar occasions. He prefers to +stand upon his own integrity and innocence, uninfluenced by the fear of +that imaginary evil, death. He, therefore, does not firmly grapple with +either of the charges preferred against him. He neither denies nor +confesses the first accusation, but shows that in several instances he +conformed to the religious customs of his country, and that he believes +in God more than he fears man. The second charge he meets by a +cross-examination of his accuser, Melitus, whom he reduces to the +dilemma of charging him with corrupting the youth designedly, which +would be absurd, or with doing so undesignedly, for which he could not +be liable to punishment. + +His defence, however, avails him nothing, and he is condemned by the +judges to die by drinking the poisonous hemlock. In the closing part of +"The Apologia" Socrates is represented as commenting upon the sentence +which has been passed upon him, and as expressing his belief that in +going to his death he is only passing to a better and a happier life. + +In "The Crito" Socrates is represented in conversation with a friend of +his named Crito, who had been present at his trial, and who had offered +to assist Socrates in paying a fine, had a fine been the sentence +imposed. Crito visits Socrates in his confinement to bring to him the +intelligence that the ship, the arrival of which was to be the signal +for his death upon the following day, would arrive forthwith, and to +urge him to adopt the means of escape which had already been prepared. +Socrates promises to follow the advice of Crito if, upon a full +discussion of the matter, it seems right to do so. In the conversation +which ensues Socrates argues that it is wrong to return evil for evil +and that the obligations which a citizen owes to his State are more +binding than those which a child owes his parents or a slave his master, +and, therefore, it is his duty to submit to the laws of Athens at +whatever cost to himself. Crito has no answer to make to this argument, +and Socrates thereupon decides to submit to his fate. + +Plato is said to have had two objects in writing this dialogue: First, +to acquit Socrates of the charge of corrupting the Athenian youth; and, +second, to establish the fact that it is necessary under all +circumstances to submit to the established laws of his country. + +"The Phaedo" relates the manner in which Socrates spent the last day of +his life and the circumstances attending his death. He is visited by a +number of his friends, among whom are Phaedo, Simmias and Crito. When his +friends arrive they find him sitting upon a bed rubbing his legs, which +have just been released from bonds. He remarks upon the unaccountable +connection between pleasure and pain, and from this the conversation +gradually turns to a consideration of the question of the immortality of +the soul. He convinces his listeners of the pre-existence of the soul; +but they are still skeptical as to its immortality, urging that its +pre-existence and the fact that it is more durable than the body does +not preclude the possibility of its being mortal. Socrates, however, +argues that contraries cannot exist in the same thing at the same time, +as, for example, the same object cannot partake of both magnitude and +littleness at the same time. In like manner, heat while it is heat can +never admit the idea of cold. Life and death are contraries and can +never coexist; but wherever there is life there is soul, so that the +soul contains that which is contrary to death and can never admit death; +consequently the soul is immortal. + +Having convinced his listeners, Socrates bathes and takes leave of his +children and the women of his family. Thereupon the officer appears and +tells him it is time for him to drink the poison. At this his friends +commence to weep and are rebuked by Socrates for their weakness. He +drinks the poison calmly and without hesitation, and then begins to walk +about, still conversing with his friends. His limbs soon grow stiff and +heavy and he lays himself down upon his back. His last words are: +"Crito, we owe a cock to AEsculapius; pay it, therefore, and do not +neglect it." + + + + +THE APOLOGY OF SOCRATES. + + +I know not, O Athenians! how far you have been influenced by my accusers +for my part, in listening to them I almost forgot myself, so plausible +were their arguments however, so to speak, they have said nothing true. +But of the many falsehoods which they uttered I wondered at one of them +especially, that in which they said that you ought to be on your guard +lest you should be deceived by me, as being eloquent in speech. For that +they are not ashamed of being forthwith convicted by me in fact, when I +shall show that I am not by any means eloquent, this seemed to me the +most shameless thing in them, unless indeed they call him eloquent who +speaks the truth. For, if they mean this, then I would allow that I am +an orator, but not after their fashion for they, as I affirm, have said +nothing true, but from me you shall hear the whole truth. Not indeed, +Athenians, arguments highly wrought, as theirs were, with choice phrases +and expressions, nor adorned, but you shall hear a speech uttered +without premeditation in such words as first present themselves. For I +am confident that what I say will be just, and let none of you expect +otherwise, for surely it would not become my time of life to come before +you like a youth with a got up speech. Above all things, therefore, I +beg and implore this of you, O Athenians! if you hear me defending +myself in the same language as that in which I am accustomed to speak +both in the forum at the counters, where many of you have heard me, and +elsewhere, not to be surprised or disturbed on this account. For the +case is this: I now for the first time come before a court of justice, +though more than seventy years old; I am therefore utterly a stranger to +the language here. As, then, if I were really a stranger, you would have +pardoned me if I spoke in the language and the manner in which I had +been educated, so now I ask this of you as an act of justice, as it +appears to me, to disregard the manner of my speech, for perhaps it may +be somewhat worse, and perhaps better, and to consider this only, and to +give your attention to this, whether I speak what is just or not; for +this is the virtue of a judge, but of an orator to speak the truth. + +2. First, then, O Athenians! I am right in defending myself against the +first false accusations alleged against me, and my first accusers, and +then against the latest accusations, and the latest accusers. For many +have been accusers of me to you, and for many years, who have asserted +nothing true, of whom I am more afraid than of Anytus and his party, +although they too are formidable; but those are still more formidable, +Athenians, who, laying hold of many of you from childhood, have +persuaded you, and accused me of what is not true: "that there is one +Socrates, a wise man, who occupies himself about celestial matters, and +has explored every thing under the earth, and makes the worse appear the +better reason." Those, O Athenians! who have spread abroad this report +are my formidable accusers; for they who hear them think that such as +search into these things do not believe that there are gods. In the next +place, these accusers are numerous, and have accused me now for a long +time; moreover, they said these things to you at that time of life in +which you were most credulous, when you were boys and some of you +youths, and they accused me altogether in my absence, when there was no +one to defend me. But the most unreasonable thing of all is, that it is +not possible to learn and mention their names, except that one of them +happens to be a comic poet.[1] Such, however, as, influenced by envy and +calumny, have persuaded you, and those who, being themselves persuaded, +have persuaded others, all these are most difficult to deal with; for it +is not possible to bring any of them forward here, nor to confute any; +but it is altogether necessary to fight, as it were with a shadow, in +making my defense, and to convict when there is no one to answer. +Consider, therefore, as I have said, that my accusers are twofold, some +who have lately accused me, and others long since, whom I have made +mention of; and believe that I ought to defend myself against these +first; for you heard them accusing me first, and much more than these +last. + +Well. I must make my defense, then, O Athenians! and endeavor in this so +short a space of time to remove from your minds the calumny which you +have long entertained. I wish, indeed, it might be so, if it were at all +better both for you and me, and that in making my defense I could effect +something more advantageous still: I think, however, that it will be +difficult, and I am not entirely ignorant what the difficulty is. +Nevertheless, let this turn out as may be pleasing to God, I must obey +the law and make my defense. + +3. Let us, then, repeat from the beginning what the accusation is from +which the calumny against me has arisen, and relying on which Melitus +has preferred this indictment against me. Well. What, then, do they who +charge me say in their charge? For it is necessary to read their +deposition as of public accusers. "Socrates acts wickedly, and is +criminally curious in searching into things under the earth, and in the +heavens, and in making the worse appear the better cause, and in +teaching these same things to others." Such is the accusation: for such +things you have yourselves seen in the comedy of Aristophanes, one +Socrates there carried about, saying that he walks in the air, and +acting many other buffooneries, of which I understand nothing whatever. +Nor do I say this as disparaging such a science, if there be any one +skilled in such things, only let me not be prosecuted by Melitus on a +charge of this kind; but I say it, O Athenians! because I have nothing +to do with such matters. And I call upon most of you as witnesses of +this, and require you to inform and tell each other, as many of you as +have ever heard me conversing; and there are many such among you. +Therefore tell each other, if any one of you has ever heard me +conversing little or much on such subjects. And from this you will know +that other things also, which the multitude assert of me, are of a +similar nature. + +4. However not one of these things is true; nor, if you have heard from +any one that I attempt to teach men, and require payment, is this true. +Though this, indeed, appears to me to be an honorable thing, if one +should be able to instruct men, like Gorgias the Leontine, Prodicus the +Cean, and Hippias the Elean. For each of these, O Athenians! is able, by +going through the several cities, to persuade the young men, who can +attach themselves gratuitously to such of their own fellow-citizens as +they please, to abandon their fellow-citizens and associate with them, +giving them money and thanks besides. There is also another wise man +here, a Parian, who, I hear, is staying in the city. For I happened to +visit a person who spends more money on the sophists than all others +together: I mean Callias, son of Hipponicus. I therefore asked him, for +he has two sons, "Callias," I said, "if your two sons were colts or +calves, we should have had to choose a master for them, and hire a +person who would make them excel in such qualities as belong to their +nature; and he would have been a groom or an agricultural laborer. But +now, since your sons are men, what master do you intend to choose for +them? Who is there skilled in the qualities that become a man and a +citizen? For I suppose you must have considered this, since you have +sons. Is there any one," I said, "or not?" "Certainly," he answered. +"Who is he?" said I, "and whence does he come? and on what terms does he +teach?" He replied, "Evenus the Parian, Socrates, for five minae." And I +deemed Evenus happy, if he really possesses this art, and teaches +admirably. And I too should think highly of myself, and be very proud, +if I possessed this knowledge, but I possess it not, O Athenians. + +5. Perhaps, one of you may now object: "But, Socrates, what have you +done, then? Whence have these calumnies against you arisen? For surely +if you had not busied yourself more than others, such a report and story +would never have got abroad, unless you had done something different +from what most men do. Tell us, therefore, what it is, that we may not +pass a hasty judgment on you." He who speaks thus appears to me to speak +justly, and I will endeavor to show you what it is that has occasioned +me this character and imputation. Listen, then: to some of you perhaps I +shall appear to jest, yet be assured that I shall tell you the whole +truth. For I, O Athenians! have acquired this character through nothing +else than a certain wisdom. Of what kind, then, is this wisdom? Perhaps +it is merely human wisdom. For in this, in truth, I appear to be wise. +They probably, whom I have just now mentioned, possessed a wisdom more +than human, otherwise I know not what to say about it; for I am not +acquainted with it, and whosoever says I am, speaks falsely, and for the +purpose of calumniating me. But, O Athenians! do not cry out against me, +even though I should seem to you to speak somewhat arrogantly. For the +account which I am going to give you is not my own; but I shall refer to +an authority whom you will deem worthy of credit. For I shall adduce to +you the god at Delphi as a witness of my wisdom, if I have any, and of +what it is. You doubtless know Chaerepho: he was my associate from youth, +and the associate of most of you; he accompanied you in your late exile, +and returned with you. You know, then, what kind of a man Chaerepho was, +how earnest in whatever he undertook. Having once gone to Delphi, he +ventured to make the following inquiry of the oracle (and, as I said, O +Athenians! do not cry out), for he asked if there was any one wiser than +I. The Pythian thereupon answered that there was not one wiser; and of +this, his brother here will give you proofs, since he himself is dead. + +6. Consider, then, why I mention these things: it is because I am going +to show you whence the calumny against me arose. For when I heard this, +I reasoned thus with myself, What does the god mean? What enigma is +this? For I am not conscious to myself that I am wise, either much or +little. What, then, does he mean by saying that I am the wisest? For +assuredly he does not speak falsely: that he could not do. And for a +long time I was in doubt what he meant; afterward, with considerable +difficulty, I had recourse to the following method of searching out his +meaning. I went to one of those who have the character of being wise, +thinking that there, if anywhere, I should confute the oracle, and show +in answer to the response that This man is wiser than I, though you +affirmed that I was the wisest. Having, then, examined this man (for +there is no occasion to mention his name; he was, however, one of our +great politicians, in examining whom I felt as I proceed to describe, O +Athenians!), having fallen into conversation with him, this man appeared +to be wise in the opinion of most other men, and especially in his own +opinion, though in fact he was not so. I thereupon endeavored to show +him that he fancied himself to be wise, but really was not. Hence I +became odious, both to him and to many others who were present. When I +left him, I reasoned thus with myself: I am wiser than this man, for +neither of us appears to know anything great and good; but he fancies he +knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know +anything, so I do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I +appear to be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not +know. After that I went to another who was thought to be wiser than the +former, and formed the very same opinion. Hence I became odious to him +and to many others. + +7. After this I went to others in turn, perceiving indeed, and grieving +and alarmed, that I was making myself odious; however, it appeared +necessary to regard the oracle of the god as of the greatest moment, and +that, in order to discover its meaning, I must go to all who had the +reputation of possessing any knowledge. And by the dog, O Athenians! for +I must tell you the truth, I came to some such conclusion as this: those +who bore the highest reputation appeared to me to be most deficient, in +my researches in obedience to the god, and others who were considered +inferior more nearly approaching to the possession of understanding. But +I must relate to you my wandering, and the labors which I underwent, in +order that the oracle might prove incontrovertible. For after the +politicians I went to the poets, as well the tragic as the dithyrambic +and others, expecting that here I should in very fact find myself more +ignorant than they. Taking up, therefore, some of their poems, which +appeared to me most elaborately finished, I questioned them as to their +meaning, that at the same time I might learn something from them. I am +ashamed, O Athenians! to tell you the truth; however, it must be told. +For, in a word, almost all who were present could have given a better +account of them than those by whom they had been composed. I soon +discovered this, therefore, with regard to the poets, that they do not +effect their object by wisdom, but by a certain natural inspiration, and +under the influence of enthusiasm, like prophets and seers; for these +also say many fine things, but they understand nothing that they say. +The poets appeared to me to be affected in a similar manner; and at the +same time I perceived that they considered themselves, on account of +their poetry, to be the wisest of men in other things, in which they +were not. I left them, therefore, under the persuasion that I was +superior to them, in the same way that I was to the politicians. + +8. At last, therefore, I went to the artisans. For I was conscious to +myself that I knew scarcely anything, but I was sure that I should find +them possessed of much beautiful knowledge. And in this I was not +deceived; for they knew things which I did not, and in this respect they +were wiser than I. But, O Athenians! even the best workmen appeared to +me to have fallen into the same error as the poets; for each, because he +excelled in the practice of his art, thought that he was very wise in +other most important matters, and this mistake of theirs obscured the +wisdom that they really possessed. I therefore asked myself, in behalf +of the oracle, whether I should prefer to continue as I am, possessing +none, either of their wisdom or their ignorance, or to have both as they +have. I answered, therefore, to myself and to the oracle, that it was +better for me to continue as I am. + +9. From this investigation, then, O Athenians! many enmities have arisen +against me, and those the most grievous and severe, so that many +calumnies have sprung from them, and among them this appellation of +being wise; for those who are from time to time present think that I am +wise in those things, with respect to which I expose the ignorance of +others. The god, however, O Athenians! appears to be really wise, and to +mean this by his oracle: that human wisdom is worth little or nothing; +and it is clear that he did not say this to Socrates, but made use of my +name, putting me forward as an example, as if he had said, that man is +the wisest among you, who, like Socrates, knows that he is in reality +worth nothing with respect to wisdom. Still, therefore, I go about and +search and inquire into these things, in obedience to the god, both +among citizens and strangers, if I think any one of them is wise; and +when he appears to me not to be so, I take the part of the god, and show +that he is not wise. And, in consequence of this occupation, I have no +leisure to attend in any considerable degree to the affairs of the state +or my own; but I am in the greatest poverty through my devotion to the +service of the god. + +10. In addition to this, young men, who have much leisure and belong to +the wealthiest families, following me of their own accord, take great +delight in hearing men put to the test, and often imitate me, and +themselves attempt to put others to the test; and then, I think, they +find a great abundance of men who fancy they know something, although +they know little or nothing. Hence those who are put to the test by them +are angry with me, and not with them, and say that "there is one +Socrates, a most pestilent fellow, who corrupts the youth." And when any +one asks them by doing or teaching what, they have nothing to say, for +they do not know; but, that they may not seem to be at a loss, they say +such things as are ready at hand against all philosophers; "that he +searches into things in heaven and things under the earth, that he does +not believe there are gods, and that he makes the worse appear the +better reason." For they would not, I think, be willing to tell the +truth that they have been detected in pretending to possess knowledge, +whereas they know nothing. Therefore, I think, being ambitions and +vehement and numerous, and speaking systematically and persuasively +about me, they have filled your ears, for a long time and diligently +calumniating me. From among these, Melitus, Anytus and Lycon have +attacked me; Melitus being angry on account of the poets, Anytus on +account of the artisans and politicians, and Lycon on account of the +rhetoricians. So that, as I said in the beginning, I should wonder if I +were able in so short a time to remove from your minds a calumny that +has prevailed so long. This, O Athenians! is the truth; and I speak it +without concealing or disguising anything from you, much or little; +though I very well know that by so doing I shall expose myself to odium. +This, however, is a proof that I speak the truth, and that this is the +nature of the calumny against me, and that these are its causes. And if +you will investigate the matter, either now or hereafter, you will find +it to be so. + +11. With respect, then, to the charges which my first accusers have +alleged against me, let this be a sufficient apology to you. To Melitus, +that good and patriotic man, as he says, and to my later accusers, I +will next endeavor to give an answer; and here, again, as there are +different accusers, let us take up their deposition. It is pretty much +as follows: "Socrates," it says, "acts unjustly in corrupting the youth, +and in not believing in those gods in whom the city believes, but in +other strange divinities." Such is the accusation; let us examine each +particular of it. It says that I act unjustly in corrupting the youth. +But I, O Athenians! say that Melitus acts unjustly, because he jests on +serious subjects, rashly putting men upon trial, under pretense of being +zealous and solicitous about things in which he never at any time took +any concern. But that this is the case I will endeavor to prove to you. + +12. Come, then, Melitus, tell me, do you not consider it of the greatest +importance that the youth should be made as virtuous as possible? + +_Mel._ I do. + +_Socr._ Well, now, tell the judges who it is that makes them better, for +it is evident that you know, since it concerns you so much; for, having +detected me in corrupting them, as you say, you have cited me here, and +accused me: come, then, say, and inform the judges who it is that makes +them better. Do you see, Melitus, that you are silent, and have nothing +to say? But does it not appear to you to be disgraceful, and a +sufficient proof of what I say, that you never took any concern about +the matter? But tell me, friend, who makes them better? + +_Mel._ The laws. + +_Socr._ I do not ask this, most excellent sir, but what man, who surely +must first know this very thing, the laws? + +_Mel._ These, Socrates, the judges. + +_Socr._ How say you, Melitus? Are these able to instruct the youth, and +make them better? + +_Mel._ Certainly. + +_Socr._ Whether all, or some of them, and others not? + +_Mel._ All. + +_Socr._ You say well, by Juno! and have found a great abundance of those +that confer benefit. But what further? Can these hearers make them +better, or not? + +_Mel._ They, too, can. + +_Socr._ And what of the senators? + +_Mel._ The senators, also. + +_Socr._ But, Melitus, do those who attend the public assemblies corrupt +the younger men? or do they all make them better? + +_Mel._ They too. + +_Socr._ All the Athenians, therefore, as it seems, make them honorable +and good, except me; but I alone corrupt them. Do you say so? + +_Mel._ I do assert this very thing. + +_Socr._ You charge me with great ill-fortune. But answer me: does it +appear to you to be the same, with respect to horses? Do all men make +them better, and is there only some one that spoils them? or does quite +the contrary of this take place? Is there some one person who can make +them better, or very few; that is, the trainers? But if the generality +of men should meddle with and make use of horses, do they spoil them? Is +not this the case, Melitus, both with respect to horses and all other +animals? It certainly is so, whether you and Anytus deny it or not. For +it would be a great good-fortune for the youth if only one person +corrupted, and the rest benefited them. However, Melitus, you have +sufficiently shown that you never bestowed any care upon youth; and you +clearly evince your own negligence, in that you have never paid any +attention to the things with respect to which you accuse me. + +13. Tell us further, Melitus, in the name of Jupiter, whether is it +better to dwell with good or bad citizens? Answer, my friend; for I ask +you nothing difficult. Do not the bad work some evil to those that are +continually near them, but the good some good? + +_Mel._ Certainly. + +_Socr._ Is there any one that wishes to be injured rather than benefited +by his associates? Answer, good man; for the law requires you to answer. +Is there any one who wishes to be injured? + +_Mel._ No, surely. + +_Socr._ Come, then, whether do you accuse me here, as one that corrupts +the youth, and makes them more depraved, designedly or undesignedly? + +_Mel._ Designedly, I say. + +_Socr._ What, then, Melitus, are you at your time of life so much wiser +than I at my time of life, as to know that the evil are always working +some evil to those that are most near to them, and the good some good; +but I have arrived at such a pitch of ignorance as not to know that if I +make any one of my associates depraved, I shall be in danger of +receiving some evil from him; and yet I designedly bring about this so +great evil, as you say? In this I can not believe you, Melitus, nor do I +think would any other man in the world. But either I do not corrupt the +youth, or, if I do corrupt them, I do it undesignedly: so that in both +cases you speak falsely. But if I corrupt them undesignedly, for such +involuntary offenses it is not usual to accuse one here, but to take one +apart, and teach and admonish one. For it is evident that if I am +taught, I shall cease doing what I do undesignedly. But you shunned me, +and were not willing to associate with and instruct me; but you accuse +me here, where it is usual to accuse those who need punishment, and not +instruction. + +14. Thus, then, O Athenians! this now is clear that I have said; that +Melitus never paid any attention to these matters, much or little. +However, tell us, Melitus, how you say I corrupt the youth? Is it not +evidently, according to the indictment which you have preferred, by +teaching them not to believe in the gods in whom the city believes, but +in other strange deities? Do you not say that, by teaching these things, +I corrupt the youth? + +_Mel._ Certainly I do say so. + +_Socr._ By those very gods, therefore, Melitus, of whom the discussion +now is, speak still more clearly both to me and to these men. For I can +not understand whether you say that I teach them to believe that there +are certain gods (and in that case I do believe that there are gods, and +am not altogether an atheist, nor in this respect to blame), not, +however, those which the city believes in, but others; and this it is +that you accuse me of, that I introduce others. Or do you say outright +that I do not myself believe that there are gods, and that I teach +others the same? + +_Mel._ I say this: that you do not believe in any gods at all. + +_Socr._ O wonderful Melitus, how come you to say this? Do I not, then, +like the rest of mankind, believe that the sun and moon are gods? + +_Mel._ No, by Jupiter, O judges! for he says that the sun is a stone, +and the moon an earth. + +_Socr._ You fancy that you are accusing Anaxagoras, my dear Melitus, and +thus you put a slight on these men, and suppose them to be so illiterate +as not to know that the books of Anaxagoras of Clazomene are full of +such assertions. And the young, moreover, learn these things from me, +which they might purchase for a drachma, at most, in the orchestra, and +so ridicule Socrates, if he pretended they were his own, especially +since they are so absurd? I ask then, by Jupiter, do I appear to you to +believe that there is no god? + +_Mel._ No, by Jupiter, none whatever. + +_Socr._ You say what is incredible, Melitus, and that, as appears to me, +even to yourself. For this man, O Athenians! appears to me to be very +insolent and intemperate and to have preferred this indictment through +downright insolence, intemperance, and wantonness. For he seems, as it +were, to have composed an enigma for the purpose of making an +experiment. Whether will Socrates the wise know that I am jesting, and +contradict myself, or shall I deceive him and all who hear me? For, in +my opinion, he clearly contradicts himself in the indictment, as if he +should say, Socrates is guilty of wrong in not believing that there are +gods, and in believing that there are gods. And this, surely, is the act +of one who is trifling. + +15. Consider with me now, Athenians, in what respect he appears to me to +say so. And do you, Melitus, answer me; and do ye, as I besought you at +the outset, remember not to make an uproar if I speak after my usual +manner. + +Is there any man, Melitus, who believes that there are human affairs, +but does not believe that there are men? Let him answer, judges, and not +make so much noise. Is there any one who does not believe that there are +horses, but that there are things pertaining to horses? or who does not +believe that there are pipers, but that there are things pertaining to +pipes? There is not, O best of men! for since you are not willing to +answer, I say it to you and to all here present. But answer to this at +least: is there any one who believes that there are things relating to +demons, but does not believe that there are demons? + +_Mel._ There is not. + +_Socr._ How obliging you are in having hardly answered; though compelled +by these judges! You assert, then, that I do believe and teach things +relating to demons, whether they be new or old; therefore, according to +your admission, I do believe in things relating to demons, and this you +have sworn in the bill of indictment. If, then, I believe in things +relating to demons, there is surely an absolute necessity that I should +believe that there are demons. Is it not so? It is. For I suppose you to +assent, since you do not answer. But with respect to demons, do we not +allow that they are gods, or the children of gods? Do you admit this or +not? + +_Mel._ Certainly. + +_Socr._ Since, then, I allow that there are demons, as you admit, if +demons are a kind of gods, this is the point in which I say you speak +enigmatically and divert yourself in saying that I do not allow there +are gods, and again that I do allow there are, since I allow that there +are demons? But if demons are the children of gods, spurious ones, +either from nymphs or any others, of whom they are reported to be, what +man can think that there are sons of gods, and yet that there are not +gods? For it would be just as absurd as if any one should think that +there are mules, the offspring of horses and asses, but should not think +there are horses and asses. However, Melitus, it can not be otherwise +than that you have preferred this indictment for the purpose of trying +me, or because you were at a loss what real crime to allege against me; +for that you should persuade any man who has the smallest degree of +sense that the same person can think that there are things relating to +demons and to gods, and yet that there are neither demons, nor gods, +not heroes, is utterly impossible. + +16. That I am not guilty, then, O Athenians! according to the indictment +of Melitus, appears to me not to require a lengthened defense; but what +I have said is sufficient. And as to what I said at the beginning, that +there is a great enmity toward me among the multitude, be assured it is +true. And this it is which will condemn me, if I am condemned, not +Melitus, nor Anytus, but the calumny and envy of the multitude, which +have already condemned many others, and those good men, and will, I +think, condemn others also; for there is no danger that it will stop +with me. + +Perhaps, however, some one may say, "Are you not ashamed, Socrates, to +have pursued a study from which you are now in danger of dying?" To such +a person I should answer with good reason, You do not say well, friend, +if you think that a man, who is even of the least value, ought to take +into the account the risk of life or death, and ought not to consider +that alone when be performs any action, whether he is acting justly or +unjustly, and the part of a good man or bad man. For, according to your +reasoning, all those demi-gods that died at Troy would be vile +characters, as well all the rest as the son of Thetis, who so far +despised danger in comparison of submitting to disgrace, that when his +mother, who was a goddess, spoke to him, in his impatience to kill +Hector, something to this effect, as I think,[2] "My son, if you revenge +the death of your friend Patroclus, and slay Hector, you will yourself +die, for," she said, "death awaits you immediately after Hector;" but +he, on hearing this, despised death and danger, and dreading much more +to live as a coward, and not avenge his friend, said, "May I die +immediately when I have inflicted punishment on the guilty, that I may +not stay here an object of ridicule, by the curved ships, a burden to +the ground?"--do you think that he cared for death and danger? For thus +it is, O Athenians! in truth: wherever any one has posted himself, +either thinking it to be better, or has been posted by his chief, there, +as it appears to me, he ought to remain and meet danger, taking no +account either of death or anything else in comparison with disgrace. + +17. I then should be acting strangely, O Athenians! if, when the +generals whom you chose to command me assigned me my post at Potidaea, at +Amphipolis, and at Delium, I then remained where they posted me, like +any other person, and encountered the danger of death; but when the +deity, as I thought and believed, assigned it as my duty to pass my life +in the study of philosophy, and examining myself and others, I should on +that occasion, through fear of death or any thing else whatsoever, +desert my post, strange indeed would it be; and then, in truth, any one +might justly bring me to trial, and accuse me of not believing in the +gods, from disobeying the oracle, fearing death, and thinking myself to +be wise when I am not. For to fear death, O Athenians! is nothing else +than to appear to be wise, without being so; for it is to appear to know +what one does not know. For no one knows but that death is the greatest +of all good to man; but men fear it, as if they well knew that it is the +greatest of evils. And how is not this the most reprehensible ignorance, +to think that one knows what one does not know? But I, O Athenians! in +this, perhaps, differ from most men; and if I should say that I am in +any thing wiser than another, it would be in this, that not having a +competent knowledge of the things in Hades, I also think that I have not +such knowledge. But to act unjustly, and to disobey my superior, +whether God or man, I know is evil and base. I shall never, therefore, +fear or shun things which, for aught I know, maybe good, before evils +which I know to be evils. So that, even if you should now dismiss me, +not yielding to the instances of Anytus, who said that either I should +not[3] appear here at all, or that, if I did appear, it was impossible +not to put me to death, telling you that if I escaped, your sons, +studying what Socrates teaches, would all be utterly corrupted; if you +should address me thus, "Socrates, we shall not now yield to Anytus, but +dismiss you, on this condition, however, that you no longer persevere in +your researches nor study philosophy; and if hereafter you are detected +in so doing, you shall die"--if, as I said, you should dismiss, me on +these terms, I should say to you, "O Athenians! I honor and love you; +but I shall obey God rather than you; and so long as I breathe and am +able, I shall not cease studying philosophy, and exhorting you and +warning any one of you I may happen to meet, saying, as I have been +accustomed to do: 'O best of men! seeing you are an Athenian, of a city +the most powerful and most renowned for wisdom and strength, are you not +ashamed of being careful for riches, how you may acquire them in +greatest abundance, and for glory, and honor, but care not nor take any +thought for wisdom and truth, and for your soul, how it maybe made most +perfect?'" And if any one of you should question my assertion, and +affirm that he does care for these things, I shall not at once let him +go, nor depart, but I shall question him, sift and prove him. And if he +should appear to me not to possess virtue, but to pretend that he does, +I shall reproach him for that he sets the least value on things of the +greatest worth, but the highest on things that are worthless. Thus I +shall act to all whom I meet, both young and old, stranger and citizen, +but rather to you, my fellow-citizens, because ye are more nearly allied +to me. For be well assured, this the deity commands. And I think that no +greater good has ever befallen you in the city than my zeal for the +service of the god. For I go about doing nothing else than persuading +you, both young and old, to take no care either for the body, or for +riches, prior to or so much as for the soul, how it may be made most +perfect, telling you that virtue does not spring from riches, but riches +and all other human blessings, both private and public, from virtue. If, +then, by saying these things, I corrupt the youth, these things must be +mischievous; but if any one says that I speak other things than these, +he misleads you.[4] Therefore I must say, O Athenians! either yield to +Anytus, or do not, either dismiss me or not, since I shall not act +otherwise, even though I must die many deaths. + +18. Murmur not, O Athenians! but continue to attend to my request, not +to murmur at what I say, but to listen, for, as I think, you will derive +benefit from listening. For I am going to say other things to you, at +which, perhaps, you will raise a clamor; but on no account do so. Be +well assured, then, if you put me to death, being such a man as I say I +am, you will not injure me more than yourselves. For neither will +Melitus nor Anytus harm me; nor have they the power; for I do not think +that it is possible for a better man to be injured by a worse. He may +perhaps have me condemned to death, or banished, or deprived of civil +rights; and he or others may perhaps consider these as mighty evils; I, +how ever, do not consider them so, but that it is much more so to do +what he is now doing, to endeavor to put a man to death unjustly. Now, +therefore, O Athenians! I am far from making a defense on my behalf, as +any one might think, but I do so on your own behalf, lest by condemning +me you should offend at all with respect to the gift of the deity to +you. For, if you should put me to death, you will not easily find such +another, though it may be ridiculous to say so, altogether attached by +the deity to this city as to a powerful and generous horse, somewhat +sluggish from his size, and requiring to be roused by a gad-fly; so the +deity appears to have united me, being such a person as I am, to the +city, that I may rouse you, and persuade and reprove every one of you, +nor ever cease besetting you throughout the whole day. Such another man, +O Athenians! will not easily be found; therefore, if you will take my +advice, you will spare me. But you, perhaps, being irritated like drowsy +persons who are roused from sleep, will strike me, and, yielding to +Anytus, will unthinkingly condemn me to death; and then you will pass +the rest of your life in sleep, unless the deity, caring for you, should +send some one else to you. But that I am a person who has been given by +the deity to this city, you may discern from hence; for it is not like +the ordinary conduct of men, that I should have neglected all my own +affairs, and suffered my private interest to be neglected for so many +years, and that I should constantly attend to your concerns, addressing +myself to each of you separately, like a father, or elder brother, +persuading you to the pursuit of virtue. And if I had derived any profit +from this course, and had received pay for my exhortations, there would +have been some reason for my conduct; but now you see yourselves that my +accusers, who have so shamelessly calumniated me in everything else, +have not had the impudence to charge me with this, and to bring +witnesses to prove that I ever either exacted or demanded any reward. +And I think I produce a sufficient proof that I speak the truth, +namely, my poverty. + +19. Perhaps, however, it may appear absurd that I, going about, thus +advise you in private and make myself busy, but never venture to present +myself in public before your assemblies and give advice to the city. The +cause of this is that which you have often and in many places heard me +mention; because I am moved by a certain divine and spiritual influence, +which also Melitus, through mockery, has set out in the indictment. This +began with me from childhood, being a kind of voice which, when present, +always diverts me from what I am about to do, but never urges me on. +This it is which opposed my meddling in public politics; and it appears +to me to have opposed me very properly. For be well assured, O +Athenians! if I had long since attempted to intermeddle with politics, I +should have perished long ago, and should not have at all benefited you +or myself. And be not angry with me for speaking the truth. For it is +not possible that any man should be safe who sincerely opposes either +you, or any other multitude, and who prevents many unjust and illegal +actions from being committed in a city; but it is necessary that he who +in earnest contends for justice, if he will be safe for but a short +time, should live privately, and take no part in public affairs. + +20. I will give you strong proofs of this, not words, but what you +value, facts. Hear, then, what has happened to me, that you may know +that I would not yield to any one contrary to what is just, through fear +of death, at the same time by not yielding I must perish. I shall tell +you what will be displeasing and wearisome,[5] yet true. For I, O +Athenians! never bore any other magisterial office in the city, but +have been a senator: and our Antiochean tribe happened to supply the +Prytanes when you chose to condemn in a body the ten generals who had +not taken off those that perished in the sea-fight, in violation of the +law, as you afterward all thought. At that time I alone of the Prytanes +opposed your doing anything contrary to the laws, and I voted against +you; and when the orators were ready to denounce me, and to carry me +before a magistrate, and you urged and cheered them on, I thought I +ought rather to meet the danger with law and justice on my side, than +through fear of imprisonment or death, to take part with you in your +unjust designs. And this happened while the city was governed by a +democracy. But when it became an oligarchy, the Thirty, having sent for +me with four others to the Tholus, ordered us to bring Leon the +Salaminian from Salamis, that he might be put to death; and they gave +many similar orders to many others, wishing to involve as many as they +could in guilt. Then, however, I showed, not in word but in deed, that I +did not care for death, if the expression be not too rude, in the +smallest degree; but that all my care was to do nothing unjust or +unholy. For that government, strong as it was, did not so overawe me as +to make me commit an unjust action; but when we came out from the +Tholus, the four went to Salamis, and brought back Leon; but I went away +home. And perhaps for this I should have been put to death, if that +government had not been speedily broken up. And of this you can have +many witnesses. + +21. Do you think, then, that I should have survived so many years if I +had engaged in public affairs, and, acting as becomes a good man, had +aided the cause of justice, and, as I ought, had deemed this of the +highest importance? Far from it, O Athenians! nor would any other man +have done so. But I, through the whole of my life, if I have done +anything in public, shall be found to be a man, and the very same in +private, who has never made a concession to any one contrary to justice, +neither to any other, nor to any one of these whom my calumniators say +are my disciples. I, however, was never the preceptor of any one; but if +any one desired to hear me speaking, and to see me busied about my own +mission, whether he were young or old, I never refused him. Nor do I +discourse when I receive money, and not when I do not receive any, but I +allow both rich and poor alike to question me, and, if any one wishes +it, to answer me and hear what I have to say. And for these, whether any +one proves to be a good man or not, I cannot justly be responsible, +because I never either promised them any instruction or taught them at +all. But if any one says that he has ever learned or heard anything from +me in private which all others have not, be well assured that he does +not speak the truth. + +22. But why do some delight to spend so long a time with me? Ye have +heard, O Athenians! I have told you the whole truth, that they delight +to hear those closely questioned who think that they are wise but are +not; for this is by no means disagreeable. But this duty, as I say, has +been enjoined me by the deity, by oracles, by dreams, and by every mode +by which any other divine decree has ever enjoined anything to man to +do. These things, O Athenians! are both true, and easily confuted if not +true. For if I am now corrupting some of the youths, and have already +corrupted others, it were fitting, surely, that if any of them, having +become advanced in life, had discovered that I gave them bad advice when +they were young, they should now rise up against me, accuse me, and have +me punished; or if they were themselves unwilling to do this, some of +their kindred, their fathers, or brothers, or other relatives, if their +kinsman have ever sustained any damage from me, should now call it to +mind. Many of them, however, are here present, whom I see: first, Crito, +my contemporary and fellow-burgher, father of this Critobulus; then +Lysanias of Sphettus, father of this AEschines; again, Antiphon of +Cephisus, father of Epigenes. There are those others, too, whose +brothers maintained the same intimacy with me, namely, Nicostratus, son +of Theodotus, brother of Theodotus--Theodotus indeed is dead, so that he +could not deprecate his brother's proceedings--and Paralus here, son of +Demodocus, whose brother was Theages; and Adimantus, son of Ariston, +whose brother is this Plato; and AEantodorus, whose brother is this +Apollodorus. I could also mention many others to you, some one of whom +certainly Melitus ought to have adduced in his speech as a witness. If, +however, he then forgot to do so, let him now adduce them; I give him +leave to do so, and let him say it, if he has anything of the kind to +allege. But, quite contrary to this, you will find, O Athenians! all +ready to assist me, who have corrupted and injured their relatives, as +Melitus and Anytus say. For those who have been themselves corrupted +might perhaps have some reason for assisting me; but those who have not +been corrupted, men now advanced in life, their relatives, what other +reason can they have for assisting me, except that right and just one, +that they know that Melitus speaks falsely, and that I speak the truth. + +23. Well, then, Athenians, these are pretty much the things I have to +say in my defense, and others perhaps of the same kind. Perhaps, +however, some among you will be indignant on recollecting his own case, +if he, when engaged in a cause far less than this, implored and besought +the judges with many tears, bringing forward his children in order that +he might excite their utmost compassion, and many others of his +relatives and friends, whereas I do none of these things, although I may +appear to be incurring the extremity of danger. Perhaps, therefore, some +one, taking notice of this, may become more determined against me, and, +being enraged at this very conduct of mine, may give his vote under the +influence of anger. If, then, any one of you is thus affected--I do not, +however, suppose that there is--but if there should be, I think I may +reasonably say to him: "I, too, O best of men, have relatives; for, to +make use of that saying of Homer, I am not sprung from an oak, nor from +a rock, but from men, so that I, too, O Athenians! have relatives, and +three sons, one now grown up, and two boys: I shall not, however, bring +any one of them forward and implore you to acquit me." Why, then, shall I +not do this? Not from contumacy, O Athenians! nor disrespect toward you. +Whether or not I am undaunted at the prospect of death is another +question; but, out of regard to my own character, and yours, and that of +the whole city, it does not appear to me to be honorable that I should +do any thing of this kind at my age, and with the reputation I have, +whether true or false. For it is commonly agreed that Socrates in some +respects excels the generality of men. If, then, those among you who +appear to excel either in wisdom, or fortitude, or any other virtue +whatsoever, should act in such a manner as I have often seen some when +they have been brought to trial, it would be shameful, who appearing +indeed to be something, have conducted themselves in a surprising +manner, as thinking they should suffer something dreadful by dying, and +as if they would be immortal if you did not put them to death. Such men +appear to me to bring disgrace on the city, so that any stranger might +suppose that such of the Athenians as excel in virtue, and whom they +themselves choose in preference to themselves for magistracies and other +honors, are in no respect superior to women. For these things, O +Athenians! neither ought we to do who have attained to any height of +reputation, nor, should we do them, ought you to suffer us; but you +should make this manifest, that you will much rather condemn him who +introduces these piteous dramas, and makes the city ridiculous, than him +who quietly awaits your decision. + +24. But, reputation apart, O Athenians! it does not appear to me to be +right to entreat a judge, or to escape by entreaty; but one ought to +inform and persuade him. For a judge does not sit for the purpose of +administering justice out of favor, but that he may judge rightly, and +he is sworn not to show favor to whom he pleases, but that he will +decide according to the laws. It is, therefore, right that neither +should we accustom you, nor should you accustom yourselves, to violate +your oaths; for in so doing neither of us would act righteously. Think +not then, O Athenians! that I ought to adopt such a course toward you as +I neither consider honorable, nor just, nor holy, as well, by Jupiter! +on any other occasion, and now especially when I am accused of impiety +by this Melitus. For clearly, if I should persuade you, and by my +entreaties should put a constraint on you who are bound by an oath, I +should teach you to think that there are no gods, and in reality, while +making my defense, should accuse myself of not believing in the gods. +This, however, is far from being the case; for I believe, O Athenians! +as none of my accusers do, and I leave it to you and to the deity to +judge concerning me in such way as will be best both for me and for you. + +[Socrates here concludes his defense, and, the votes being taken, he is +declared guilty by a majority of voices. He thereupon resumes his +address.] + +25. That I should not be grieved, O Athenians! at what has +happened--namely, that you have condemned me--as well many other +circumstances concur in bringing to pass; and, moreover this, that what +has happened has not happened contrary to my expectation; but I much +rather wonder at the number of votes on either side. For I did not +expect that I should be condemned by so small a number, but by a large +majority; but now, as it seems, if only three more votes had changed +sides, I should have been acquitted. So far as Melitus is concerned, as +it appears to me, I have been already acquitted; and not only have I +been acquitted, but it is clear to every one that had not Anytus and +Lycon come forward to accuse me, he would have been fined a thousand +drachmas, for not having obtained a fifth part of the votes. + +26. The man, then, awards me the penalty of death. Well. But what shall +I, on my part, O Athenians! award myself? Is it not clear that it will +be such as I deserve? What, then, is that? Do I deserve to suffer, or to +pay a fine? for that I have purposely during my life not remained quiet, +but neglecting what most men seek after, money-making, domestic +concerns, military command, popular oratory, and, moreover, all the +magistracies, conspiracies, and cabals that are met with in the city, +thinking that I was in reality too upright a man to be safe if I took +part in such things, I therefore did not apply myself to those pursuits, +by attending to which I should have been of no service either to you or +to myself; but in order to confer the greatest benefit on each of you +privately, as I affirm, I thereupon applied myself to that object, +endeavoring to persuade every one of you not to take any care of his own +affairs before he had taken care of himself in what way he may become +the best and wisest, nor of the affairs of the city before he took care +of the city itself; and that he should attend to other things in the +same manner. What treatment, then, do I deserve, seeing I am such a man? +Some reward, O Athenians! if, at least, I am to be estimated according +to my real deserts; and, moreover, such a reward as would be suitable to +me. What, then, is suitable to a poor man, a benefactor, and who has +need of leisure in order to give you good advice? There is nothing so +suitable, O Athenians! as that such a man should be maintained in the +Prytaneum, and this much more than if one of you had been victorious at +the Olympic games in a horserace, or in the two or four horsed chariot +race: for such a one makes you appear to be happy, but I, to be so; and +he does not need support, but I do. If, therefore, I must award a +sentence according to my just deserts, I award this, maintenance in the +Prytaneum. + +27. Perhaps, however, in speaking to you thus, I appear to you to speak +in the same presumptuous manner as I did respecting commiseration and +entreaties; but such is not the case, O Athenians! it is rather this: I +am persuaded that I never designedly injured any man, though I can not +persuade you of this, for we have conversed with each other but for a +short time. For if there were the same law with you as with other men, +that in capital cases the trial should list not only one day, but many, +I think you would be persuaded; but it is not easy in a short time to do +away with, great calumnies. Being persuaded, then, that I have injured +no one, I am far from intending to injure myself, and of pronouncing +against myself that I am deserving of punishment, and from awarding +myself any thing of the kind. Through fear of what? lest I should +suffer that which Melitus awards me, of which I say I know not whether +it he good or evil? Instead of this, shall I choose what I well know to +be evil, and award that? Shall I choose imprisonment? And why should I +live in prison, a slave to the established magistracy, the Eleven? Shall +I choose a fine, and to be imprisoned until I have paid it? But this is +the same as that which I just now mentioned, for I have not money to pay +it. Shall I, then, award myself exile? For perhaps you would consent to +this award. I should indeed be very fond of life, O Athenians! if I were +so devoid of reason as not to be able to reflect that you, who are my +fellow-citizens, have been unable to endure my manner of life and +discourses, but they have become so burdensome and odious to you that +you now seek to be rid of them: others, however, will easily bear them. +Far from it, O Athenians! A fine life it would be for me at my age to go +out wandering, and driven from city to city, and so to live. For I well +know that, wherever I may go, the youth will listen to me when I speak, +as they do here. And if I repulse them, they will themselves drive me +out, persuading the elders; and if I do not repulse them, their fathers +and kindred will banish me on their account. + +28. Perhaps, however, some one will say, Can you not, Socrates, when you +have gone from us, live a silent and quiet life? This is the most +difficult thing of all to persuade some of you. For if I say that that +would be to disobey the deity, and that, therefore, it is impossible for +me to live quietly, you would not believe me, thinking I spoke +ironically. If, on the other hand, I say that this is the greatest good +to man, to discourse daily on virtue, and other things which you have +heard me discussing, examining both myself and others, but that a life +without investigation is not worth living for, still less would you +believe me if I said this. Such, however, is the case, as I affirm, O +Athenians! though it is not easy to persuade you. And at the same time I +am not accustomed to think myself deserving of any ill. If, indeed, I +were rich, I would amerce myself in such a sum as I should be able to +pay; for then I should have suffered no harm, but now--for I can not, +unless you are willing to amerce me in such a sum as I am able to pay. +But perhaps I could pay you a mina of silver: in that sum, then, I +amerce myself. But Plato here, O Athenians! and Crito Critobulus, and +Apollodorus bid me amerce myself in thirty minae, and they offer to be +sureties. I amerce myself, then, to you in that sum; and they will be +sufficient sureties for the money. + +[The judges now proceeded to pass the sentence, and condemned Socrates +to death; whereupon he continued:] + +29. For the sake of no long space of time, O Athenians! you will incur +the character and reproach at the hands of those who wish to defame the +city, of having put that wise man, Socrates, to death. For those who +wish to defame you will assert that I am wise, though I am not. If, +then, you had waited for a short time, this would have happened of its +own accord; for observe my age, that it is far advanced in life, and +near death. But I say this not to you all, but to those only who have +condemned me to die. And I say this, too, to the same persons. Perhaps +you think, O Athenians! that I have been convicted through the want of +arguments, by which I might have persuaded you, had I thought it right +to do and say any thing, so that I might escape punishment. Far +otherwise: I have been convicted through want indeed, yet not of +arguments, but of audacity and impudence, and of the inclination to say +such things to you as would have been most agreeable for you to hear, +had I lamented and bewailed and done and said many other things +unworthy of me, as I affirm, but such as you are accustomed to hear from +others. But neither did I then think that I ought, for the sake of +avoiding danger, to do any thing unworthy of a freeman, nor do I now +repent of having so defended myself; but I should much rather choose to +die, having so defended myself, than to live in that way. For neither in +a trial nor in battle is it right that I or any one else should employ +every possible means whereby he may avoid death; for in battle it is +frequently evident that a man might escape death by laying down his +arms, and throwing himself on the mercy of his pursuers. And there are +many other devices in every danger, by which to avoid death, if a man +dares to do and say every thing. But this is not difficult, O Athenians! +to escape death; but it is much more difficult to avoid depravity, for +it runs swifter than death. And now I, being slow and aged, am overtaken +by the slower of the two; but my accusers, being strong and active, have +been overtaken by the swifter, wickedness. And now I depart, condemned +by you to death; but they condemned by truth, as guilty of iniquity and +injustice: and I abide my sentence, and so do they. These things, +perhaps, ought so to be, and I think that they are for the best. + +30. In the next place, I desire to predict to you who have condemned me, +what will be your fate; for I am now in that condition in which men most +frequently prophesy--namely, when they are about to die. I say, then, to +you, O Athenians! who have condemned me to death, that immediately after +my death a punishment will overtake you, far more severe, by Jupiter! +than that which you have inflicted on me. For you have done this, +thinking you should be freed from the necessity of giving an account of +your lives. The very contrary, however, as I affirm, will happen to you. +Your accusers will be more numerous, whom I have now restrained, though +you did not perceive it; and they will be more severe, inasmuch as they +are younger, and you will be more indignant. For if you think that by +putting men to death you will restrain any one from upbraiding you +because you do not live well, you are much mistaken; for this method of +escape is neither possible nor honorable; but that other is most +honorable and most easy, not to put a check upon others, but for a man +to take heed to himself how he may be most perfect. Having predicted +thus much to those of you who have condemned me, I take my leave of you. + +31. But with you who have voted for my acquittal I would gladly hold +converse on what has now taken place, while the magistrates are busy, +and I am not yet carried to the place where I must die. Stay with me, +then, so long, O Athenians! for nothing hinders our conversing with each +other, while we are permitted to do so; for I wish to make known to you, +as being my friends, the meaning of that which has just now befallen me. +To me, then, O my judges! and in calling you judges I call you +rightly--a strange thing has happened. For the wonted prophetic voice of +my guardian deity on every former occasion, even in the most trifling +affairs, opposed me if I was about to do any thing wrong; but now that +has befallen me which ye yourselves behold, and which any one would +think, and which is supposed to be the extremity of evil; yet neither +when I departed from home in the morning did the warning of the god +oppose me, nor when I came up here to the place of trial, nor in my +address when I was about to say any thing; yet on other occasions it has +frequently restrained me in the midst of speaking. But now it has never, +throughout this proceeding, opposed me, either in what I did or said. +What, then, do I suppose to be the cause of this? I will tell you: what +has befallen me appears to be a blessing; and it is impossible that we +think rightly who suppose that death is an evil. A great proof of this +to me is the fact that it is impossible but that the accustomed signal +should have opposed me, unless I had been about to meet with some good. + +32. Moreover, we may hence conclude that there is great hope that death +is a blessing. For to die is one of two things: for either the dead may +be annihilated, and have no sensation of any thing whatever; or, as it +is said, there are a certain change and passage of the soul from one +place to another. And if it is a privation of all sensation, as it were +a sleep in which the sleeper has no dream, death would be a wonderful +gain. For I think that if any one, having selected a night in which he +slept so soundly as not to have had a dream, and having compared this +night with all the other nights and days of his life, should be +required, on consideration, to say how many days and nights he had +passed better and more pleasantly than this night throughout his life, I +think that not only a private person, but even the great king himself, +would find them easy to number, in comparison with other days and +nights. If, therefore, death is a thing of this kind, I say it is a +gain; for thus all futurity appears to be nothing more than one night. +But if, on the other hand, death is a removal from hence to another +place, and what is said be true, that all the dead are there, what +greater blessing can there be than this, my judges? For if, on arriving +at Hades, released from these who pretend to be judges, one shall find +those who are true judges, and who are said to judge there, Minos and +Rhadamanthus, AEacus and Triptolemus, and such others of the demi-gods as +were just during their own life, would this be a sad removal? At what +price would you not estimate a conference with Orpheus and Musaeus, +Hesiod and Homer? I indeed should be willing to die often, if this be +true. For to me the sojourn there would be admirable, when I should meet +with Palamedes, and Ajax, son of Telamon, and any other of the ancients +who has died by an unjust sentence. The comparing my sufferings with +theirs would, I think, be no unpleasing occupation. But the greatest +pleasure would be to spend my time in questioning and examining the +people there as I have done those here, and discovering who among them +is wise, and who fancies himself to be so, but is not. At what price, my +judges, would not any one estimate the opportunity of questioning him +who led that mighty army against Troy, or Ulysses, or Sisyphus, or ten +thousand others whom one might mention both men and women--with whom to +converse and associate, and to question them, would be an inconceivable +happiness? Surely for that the judges there do not condemn to death; for +in other respects those who live there are more happy than those who are +here, and are henceforth immortal, if, at least, what is said be true. + +33. You, therefore, O my judges! ought to entertain good hopes with +respect to death, and to meditate on this one truth, that to a good man +nothing is evil, neither while living nor when dead, nor are his +concerns neglected by the gods. And what has befallen me is not the +effect of chance; but this is clear to me, that now to die, and be freed +from my cares is better for me On this account the warning in no way +turned me aside; and I bear no resentment toward those who condemned me, +or against my accusers, although they did not condemn and accuse me with +this intention, but thinking to injure me: in this they deserve to be +blamed. + +Thus much, however, I beg of them. Punish my sons when they grow up, O +judges! paining them as I have pained you, if they appear to you to care +for riches or anything else before virtue; and if they think themselves +to be something when they are nothing, reproach them as I have done you, +for not attending to what they ought, and for conceiving themselves to +be something when they are worth nothing. If ye do this, both I and my +sons shall have met with just treatment at your hands. + +But it is now time to depart--for me to die, for you to live. But which +of us is going to a better state is unknown to every one but God. + + +FOOTNOTES + + [1] Aristophanes. + + [2] "Iliad," lib. xviii. ver. 94, etc. + + [3] See the "Crito," sec. 5. + + [4] ouden legei, literally, "he says nothing:" on se trompe, ou + l'on vous impose, _Cousin_. + + [5] But for the authority of Stallbaum, I should have translated + dikanika "forensic;" that is, such arguments as an advocate would use + in a court of justice. + + + + +INTRODUCTION TO THE CRITO. + + +It has been remarked by Stallbaum that Plato had a twofold design in +this dialogue--one, and that the primary one, to free Socrates from the +imputation of having attempted to corrupt the Athenian youth; the other, +to establish the principle that under all circumstances it is the duty +of a good citizen to obey the laws of his country. These two points, +however, are so closely interwoven with each other, that the general +principle appears only to be illustrated by the example of Socrates. + +Crito was one of those friends of Socrates who had been present at his +trial, and had offered to assist in paying a fine, had a fine been +imposed instead of the sentence of death. He appears to have frequently +visited his friend in prison after his condemnation; and now, having +obtained access to his cell very early in the morning, finds him +composed in a quiet sleep. He brings intelligence that the ship, the +arrival of which would be the signal for his death on the following day, +is expected to arrive forthwith, and takes occasion to entreat Socrates +to make his escape, the means of which were already prepared. Socrates +thereupon, having promised to follow the advice of Crito if, after the +matter had been fully discussed, it should appear to be right to do so, +proposes to consider the duty of a citizen toward his country; and +having established the divine principle that it is wrong to return evil +for evil, goes on to show that the obligations of a citizen to his +country are even more binding than those of a child to its parent, or a +slave to his master, and that therefore it is his duty to obey the +established laws, at whatever cost to himself. + +At length Crito admits that he has no answer to make, and Socrates +resolves to submit himself to the will of Providence. + + + + +CRITO; +OR, +THE DUTY OF A CITIZEN. + + +SOCRATES, CRITO. + +_Socr._ Why have you come at this hour, Crito? Is it not very early? + +_Cri._ It is. + +_Socr._ About what time? + +_Cri._ Scarce day-break. + +_Socr._ I wonder how the keeper of the prison came to admit you. + +_Cri._ He is familiar with me, Socrates, from my having frequently come +hither; and he is under some obligations to me. + +_Socr._ Have you just now come, or some time since? + +_Cri._ A considerable time since. + +_Socr._ Why, then, did you not wake me at once, instead of sitting down +by me in silence? + +_Cri._ By Jupiter! Socrates, I should not myself like to be so long +awake, and in such affliction. But I have been for some time wondering +at you, perceiving how sweetly you slept; and I purposely did not awake +you, that you might pass your time as pleasantly as possible. And, +indeed, I have often before throughout your whole life considered you +happy in your disposition, but far more so in the present calamity, +seeing how easily and meekly you bear it. + +_Socr._ However, Crito, it would be disconsonant for a man at my time of +life to repine because he must needs die. + +_Cri._ But others, Socrates, at your age have been involved in similar +calamities, yet their age has not hindered their repining at their +present fortune. + +_Socr._ So it is. But why did you come so early? + +_Cri._ Bringing sad tidings, Socrates, not sad to you, as it appears, +but to me, and all your friends, sad and heavy, and which I, I think, +shall bear worst of all. + +_Socr._ What tidings? Has the ship[6] arrived from Delos, on the arrival +of which I must die? + +_Cri._ It has not yet arrived, but it appears to me that it will come +to-day, from what certain persons report who have come from Sunium,[7] +and left it there. It is clear, therefore, from these messengers, that +it will come to day, and consequently it will be necessary, Socrates, +for you to die to-morrow. + +2. _Socr._ But with good fortune, Crito, and if so it please the gods, +so be it. I do not think, however, that it will come to day. + +_Cri._ Whence do you form this conjecture? + +_Socr._ I will tell you. I must die on the day after that on which the +ship arrives. + +_Cri._ So they say[8] who have the control of these things. + +_Socr._ I do not think, then, that it will come to-day, but to-morrow. I +conjecture this from a dream which I had this very night, not long ago, +and you seem very opportunely to have refrained from waking me. + +_Cri._ But what was this dream? + +_Socr._ A beautiful and majestic woman, clad in white garments seemed to +approach me, and to call to me and say, "Socrates, three days hence you +will reach fertile Pythia"[9]. + +_Cri._ What a strange dream, Socrates! + +_Socr._ Very clear, however, as it appears to me, Crito. + +3. _Cri._ Very much so, as it seems. But, my dear Socrates, even now be +persuaded by me, and save yourself. For if you die, not only a single +calamity will befall me, but, besides being deprived of such a friend as +I shall never meet with again, I shall also appear to many who do not +know you and me well, when I might have saved you had I been willing to +spend my money, to have neglected to do so. And what character can be +more disgraceful than this--to appear to value one's riches more than +one's friends? For the generality of men will not be persuaded that you +were unwilling to depart hence, when we urged you to it. + +_Socr._ But why, my dear Crito, should we care so much for the opinion +of the many? For the most worthy men, whom we ought rather to regard, +will think that matters have transpired as they really have. + +_Cri._ Yet you see, Socrates, that it is necessary to attend to the +opinion of the many. For the very circumstances of the present case show +that the multitude are able to effect not only the smallest evils, but +even the greatest, if any one is calumniated to them. + +_Socr._ Would, O Crito that the multitude could effect the greatest +evils, that they might also effect the greatest good, for then it would +be well. But now they can do neither; for they can make a man neither +wise nor foolish; but they do whatever chances. + +4. _Cri._ So let it be, then. But answer me this, Socrates: are you not +anxious for me and other friends, lest, if you should escape from hence, +informers should give us trouble, as having secretly carried you off, +and so we should be compelled either to lose all our property, or a very +large sum, or to suffer something else besides this? For, if you fear +any thing of the kind, dismiss your fears; for we are justified in +running the risk to save you--and, if need be, even a greater risk than +this. But be persuaded by me, and do not refuse. + +_Socr._ I am anxious about this, Crito, and about many other things. + +_Cri._ Do not fear this, however; for the sum is not large on receipt of +which certain persons are willing to save you, and take you hence. In +the next place, do you not see how cheap these informers are, so that +there would be no need of a large sum for them? My fortune is at your +service, sufficient, I think, for the purpose; then if, out of regard to +me, you do not think right to spend my money, these strangers here are +ready to spend theirs. One of them, Simmias the Theban, has brought with +him a sufficient sum for the very purpose. Cebes, too, is ready, and +very many others. So that, as I said, do not, through fears of this +kind, hesitate to save yourself, nor let what you said in court give you +any trouble, that if you went from hence you would not know what to do +with yourself. For in many places, and wherever you go, men will love +you; and if you are disposed to go to Thessaly, I have friends there who +will esteem you very highly, and will insure your safety, so that no one +in Thessaly will molest you. + +5. Moreover, Socrates, you do not appear to me to pursue a just course +in giving yourself up when you might be saved; and you press on the very +results with respect to yourself which your enemies would press, and +have pressed, in their anxiety to destroy you. Besides this, too, you +appear to me to betray your own sons, whom, when it is in your power to +rear and educate them, you will abandon, and, so far as you are +concerned, they will meet with such a fate as chance brings them, and, +as is probable, they will meet with such things as orphans are wont to +experience in a state of orphanage. Surely one ought not to have +children, or one should go through the toil of rearing and instructing +them. But you appear to me to have chosen the most indolent course; +though you ought to have chosen such a course as a good and brave man +would have done, since you profess to have made virtue your study +through the whole of your life; so that I am ashamed both for you and +for us who are your friends, lest this whole affair of yours should seem +to be the effect of cowardice on our part--your appearing to stand your +trial in the court, since you appeared when it was in your power not to +have done so, the very manner in which the trial was conducted, and this +last circumstance, as it were, a ridiculous consummation of the whole +business; your appearing to have escaped from us through our indolence +and cowardice, who did not save you; nor did you save yourself, when it +was practicable and possible, had we but exerted ourselves a little. +Think of these things, therefore, Socrates, and beware, lest, besides +the evil _that will result_, they be disgraceful both to you and to us; +advise, then, with yourself; though, indeed, there is no longer time for +advising--your resolve should be already made. And there is but one +plan; for in the following night the whole must be accomplished. If we +delay, it will be impossible and no longer practicable. By all means, +therefore, Socrates, be persuaded by me, and on no account refuse. + +6. _Socr._ My dear Crito, your zeal would be very commendable were it +united with right principle; otherwise, by how much the more earnest it +is, by so much is it the more sad. We must consider, therefore, whether +this plan should be adopted or not. For I not now only, but always, am a +person who will obey nothing within me but reason, according as it +appears to me on mature deliberation to be best. And the reasons which I +formerly professed I can not now reject, because this misfortune has +befallen me; but they appear to me in much the same light, and I respect +and honor them as before; so that if we are unable to adduce any better +at the present time, be assured that I shall not give in to you, even +though the power of the multitude should endeavor to terrify us like +children, by threatening more than it does now, bonds and death, and +confiscation of property. How, therefore, may we consider the matter +most conveniently? First of all, if we recur to the argument which you +used about opinions, whether on former occasions it was rightly resolved +or not, that we ought to pay attention to some opinions, and to others +not; or whether, before it was necessary that I should die, it was +rightly resolved; but now it has become clear that it was said idly for +argument's sake, though in reality it was merely jest and trifling. I +desire then, Crito, to consider, in common with you, whether it will +appear to me in a different light, now that I am in this condition, or +the same, and whether we shall give it up or yield to it. It was said, I +think, on former occasions, by those who were thought to speak +seriously, as I just now observed, that of the opinions which men +entertain some should be very highly esteemed and others not. By the +gods! Crito, does not this appear to you to be well said? For you, in +all human probability, are out of all danger of dying to-morrow, and the +present calamity will not lead your judgment astray. Consider, then; +does it not appear to you to have been rightly settled that we ought not +to respect all the opinions of men, but some we should, and others not? +Nor yet the opinions of all men, but of some we should, and of others +not? What say you? Is not this rightly resolved? + +_Cri._ It is. + +_Socr._ Therefore we should respect the good, but not the bad? + +_Cri._ Yes. + +_Socr._ And are not the good those of the wise, and the bad those of the +foolish? + +_Cri._ How can it be otherwise? + +7. _Socr._ Come, then: how, again, were the following points settled? +Does a man who practices gymnastic exercises and applies himself to +them, pay attention to the praise and censure and opinion of every one, +or of that one man only who happens to be a physician, or teacher of the +exercises? + +_Cri._ Of that one only. + +_Socr._ He ought, therefore, to fear the censures and covet the praises +of that one, but not those of the multitude. + +_Cri._ Clearly. + +_Socr._ He ought, therefore, so to practice and exercise himself, and to +eat and drink, as seems fitting to the one who presides and knows, +rather than to all others together. + +_Cri._ It is so. + +_Socr._ Well, then, if he disobeys the one, and disregards his opinion +and praise, but respects that of the multitude and of those who know +nothing, will he not suffer some evil? + +_Cri._ How should he not? + +_Socr._ But what is this evil? Whither does it tend, and on what part +of him that disobeys will it fall? + +_Cri._ Clearly on his body, for this it ruins. + +_Socr._ You say well. The case is the same, too, Crito, with all other +things, not to go through them all. With respect then, to things just +and unjust, base and honorable, good and evil, about which we are now +consulting, ought we to follow the opinion of the multitude, and to +respect it, or that of one, if there is any one who understands, whom we +ought to reverence and respect rather than all others together? And if +we do not obey him, shall we not corrupt and injure that part of +ourselves which becomes better by justice, but is ruined by injustice? +Or is this nothing? + +_Cri._ I agree with you, Socrates. + +8. _Socr._ Come, then, if we destroy that which becomes better by what +is wholesome, but is impaired by what is unwholesome, through being +persuaded by those who do not understand, can we enjoy life when that is +impaired? And this is the body we are speaking of, is it not? + +_Cri._ Yes. + +_Socr._ Can we, then, enjoy life with a diseased and impaired body? + +_Cri._ By no means. + +_Socr._ But can we enjoy life when that is impaired which injustice +ruins but justice benefits? Or do we think that to be of less value than +the body, whatever part of us it may be, about which injustice and +justice are concerned' + +_Cri._ By no means. + +_Socr._ But of more value? + +_Cri._ Much more. + +_Socr._ We must not then, my excellent friend, so much regard what the +multitude will say of us, but what he will say who understands the just +and the unjust, the one, even truth itself. So that at first you did +not set out with a right principle, when you laid it down that we ought +to regard the opinion of the multitude with respect to things just and +honorable and good, and their contraries. How ever, some one may say, +are not the multitude able to put us to death? + +_Cri._ This, too, is clear, Socrates, any one might say so. + +_Socr._ You say truly. But, my admirable friend, this principle which we +have just discussed appears to me to be the same as it was before[10]. +And consider this, moreover, whether it still holds good with us or not, +that we are not to be anxious about living but about living well. + +_Cri._ It does hold good. + +_Socr._ And does this hold good or not, that to live well and Honorable +and justly are the same thing? + +_Cri._ It does. + +9. _Socr._ From what has been admitted, then, this consideration arises, +whether it is just or not that I should endeavor to leave this place +without the permission of the Athenians. And should it appear to be +just, we will make the attempt, but if not, we will give it up. But as +to the considerations which you mention, of an outlay of money, +reputation, and the education of children, beware, Crito, lest such +considerations as these in reality belong to these multitudes, who +rashly put one to death, and would restore one to life, if they could do +so, without any reason at all. But we, since reason so requires, must +consider nothing else than what we just now mentioned, whether we shall +act justly in paying money and contracting obligations to those who +will lead me hence, as well they who lead me as we who are led hence, or +whether, in truth, we shall not act unjustly in doing all these things. +And if we should appear in so doing to be acting unjustly, observe that +we must not consider whether from remaining here and continuing quiet we +must needs die, or suffer any thing else, rather than whether we shall +be acting unjustly. + +_Cri._ You appear to me to speak wisely, Socrates, but see what we are +to do. + +_Socr._ Let us consider the matter together, my friend, and if you have +any thing to object to what I say, make good your objection, and I will +yield to you, but if not, cease, my excellent friend, to urge upon me +the same thing so often, that I ought to depart hence against the will +of the Athenians. For I highly esteem your endeavors to persuade me thus +to act, so long as it is not against my will Consider, then, the +beginning of our inquiry, whether it is stated to your entire +satisfaction, and endeavor to answer the question put to you exactly as +you think right. + +_Cri._ I will endeavor to do so. + +10. _Socr._ Say we, then, that we should on no account deliberately +commit injustice, or may we commit injustice under certain +circumstances, under others not? Or is it on no account either good or +honorable to commit injustice, as we have often agreed on former +occasions, and as we just now said? Or have all those our former +admissions been dissipated in these few days, and have we, Crito, old +men as we are, been for a long time seriously conversing with each other +without knowing that we in no respect differ from children? Or does the +case, beyond all question, stand as we then determined? Whether the +multitude allow it or not, and whether we must suffer a more severe or a +milder punishment than this, still is injustice on every account both +evil and disgraceful to him who commits it? Do we admit this, or not? + +_Cri._ We do admit it. + +_Socr._ On no account, therefore, ought we to act unjustly. + +_Cri._ Surely not. + +_Socr._ Neither ought one who is injured to return the injury, as the +multitude think, since it is on no account right to act unjustly. + +_Cri._ It appears not. + +_Socr._ What, then? Is it right to do evil, Crito, or not? + +_Cri._ Surely it is not right, Socrates. + +_Socr._ But what? To do evil in return when one has been evil-entreated, +is that right, or not? + +_Cri._ By no means. + +_Socr._ For to do evil to men differs in no respect from committing +injustice. + +_Cri._ You say truly. + +_Socr._ It is not right, therefore, to return an injury, or to do evil +to any man, however one may have suffered from him. But take care, +Crito, that in allowing these things you do not allow them contrary to +your opinion, for I know that to some few only these things both do +appear, and will appear, to be true. They, then, to whom these things +appear true, and they to whom they do not, have no sentiment in common, +and must needs despise each other, while they look to each other's +opinions. Consider well, then, whether you coincide and think with me, +and whether we can begin our deliberations from this point--that it is +never right either to do an injury or to return an injury, or when one +has been evil-entreated, to revenge one's self by doing evil in return, +or do you dissent from, and not coincide in this principle? For so it +appears to me, both long since and now, but if you in any respect think +otherwise, say so and inform me. But if you persist in your former +opinions, hear what follows. + +_Cri._ I do persist in them, and think with you. Speak on, then. + +_Socr._ I say next, then, or rather I ask; whether when a man has +promised to do things that are just he ought to do them, or evade his +promise? + +_Cri._ He ought to do them. + +11. _Socr._ Observe, then, what follows. By departing hence without the +leave of the city, are we not doing evil to some, and that to those to +whom we ought least of all to do it, or not? And do we abide by what we +agreed on as being just, or do we not? + +_Cri._ I am unable to answer your question, Socrates; for I do not +understand it. + +_Socr._ Then, consider it thus. If, while we were preparing to run away, +or by whatever name we should call it, the laws and commonwealth should +come, and, presenting themselves before us, should say, "Tell me, +Socrates, what do you purpose doing? Do you design any thing else by +this proceeding in which you are engaged than to destroy us, the laws, +and the whole city, so far as you are able? Or do you think it possible +for that city any longer to subsist, and not be subverted, in which +judgments that are passed have no force, but are set aside and destroyed +by private persons?"--what should we say, Crito, to these and similar +remonstrances? For any one, especially an orator, would have much to say +on the violation of the law, which enjoins that judgments passed shall +be enforced. Shall we say to them that the city has done us an +injustice, and not passed a right sentence? Shall we say this, or what +else? + +_Cri._ This, by Jupiter! Socrates. + +12. _Socr._ What, then, if the laws should say, "Socrates, was it not +agreed between us that you should abide by the judgments which the city +should pronounce?" And if we should wonder at their speaking thus, +perhaps they would say, "Wonder not, Socrates, at what we say, but +answer, since you are accustomed to make use of questions and answers. +For, come, what charge have you against us and the city, that you +attempt to destroy us? Did we not first give you being? and did not your +father, through us, take your mother to wife and beget you? Say, then, +do you find fault with those laws among us that relate to marriage as +being bad?" I should say, "I do not find fault with them." "Do you with +those that relate to your nurture when born, and the education with +which you were instructed? Or did not the laws, ordained on this point, +enjoin rightly, in requiring your father to instruct you in music and +gymnastic exercises?" I should say, rightly. Well, then, since you were +born, nurtured, and educated through our means, can you say, first of +all, that you are not both our offspring and our slave, as well you as +your ancestors? And if this be so, do you think that there are equal +rights between us? and whatever we attempt to do to you, do you think +you may justly do to us in turn? Or had you not equal rights with your +father, or master, if you happened to have one, so as to return what you +suffered, neither to retort when found fault with, nor, when stricken, +to strike again, nor many other things of the kind; but that with your +country and the laws you may do so; so that if we attempt to destroy +you, thinking it to be just, you also should endeavor, so far as you are +able, in return, to destroy us, the laws, and your country; and in doing +this will you say that you act justly--you who, in reality, make virtue +your chief object? Or are you so wise as not to know that one's country +is more honorable, venerable, and sacred, and more highly prized both by +gods, and men possessed of understanding, than mother and father, and +all other progenitors; and that one ought to reverence, submit to, and +appease one's country, when angry, rather than one's father; and either +persuade it or do what it orders, and to suffer quietly if it bids one +suffer, whether to be beaten, or put in bonds; or if it sends one out to +battle there to be wounded or slain, this must be done; for justice so +requires, and one must not give way, or retreat, or leave one's post; +but that both in war and in a court of justice, and everywhere one must +do what one's city and country enjoin, or persuade it in such manner as +justice allows; but that to offer violence either to one's mother or +father is not holy, much less to one's country? What shall we say to +these things, Crito? That the laws speak the truth, or not? + +_Cri._ It seems so to me. + +13. _Socr._ "Consider, then, Socrates," the laws perhaps might say, +"whether we say truly that in what you are now attempting you are +attempting to do what is not just toward us. For we, having given you +birth, nurtured, instructed you, and having imparted to you and all +other citizens all the good in our power, still proclaim, by giving the +power to every Athenian who pleases, when he has arrived at years of +discretion, and become acquainted with the business of the state, and +us, the laws, that any one who is not satisfied with us may take his +property, and go wherever he pleases. And if any one of you wishes to go +to a colony, if he is not satisfied with us and the city, or to migrate +and settle in another country, none of us, the laws, hinder or forbid +him going whithersoever he pleases, taking with him all his property. +But whoever continues with us after he has seen the manner in which we +administer justice, and in other respects govern the city, we now say +that he has in fact entered into a compact with us to do what we order; +and we affirm that he who does not obey is in three respects guilty of +injustice--because he does not obey us who gave him being, and because +he does not obey us who nurtured him, and because, having made a compact +that he would obey us, he neither does so, nor does he persuade us if we +do any thing wrongly; though we propose for his consideration, and do +not rigidly command him to do what we order, but leave him the choice of +one of two things, either to persuade us, or to do what we require, and +yet he does neither of these." + +14. "And we say that you, O Socrates! will be subject to these charges +if you accomplish your design, and that not least of the Athenians, but +most so of all." And if I should ask, "For what reason?" they would +probably justly retort on me by saying that, among all the Athenians, I +especially made this compact with them. For they would say, "Socrates, +we have strong proof of this, that you were satisfied both with us and +the city; for, of all the Athenians, you especially would never have +dwelt in it if it had not been especially agreeable to you; for you +never went out of the city to any of the public spectacles, except once +to the Isthmian games, nor anywhere else, except on military service, +nor have you ever gone abroad as other men do, nor had you ever had any +desire to become acquainted with any other city or other laws, but we +and our city were sufficient for you; so strongly were you attached to +us, and so far did you consent to submit to our government, both in +other respects and in begetting children in this city, in consequence of +your being satisfied with it. Moreover, in your very trial, it was in +your power to have imposed on yourself a sentence of exile, if you +pleased, and might then have done, with the consent of the city, what +you now attempt against its consent. Then, indeed, you boasted yourself +as not being grieved if you must needs die; but you preferred, as you +said, death to exile. Now, however, you are neither ashamed of those +professions, nor do you revere us, the laws, since you endeavor to +destroy us, and you act as the vilest slave would act, by endeavoring to +make your escape contrary to the conventions and the compacts by which +you engaged to submit to our government. First, then, therefore, answer +us this, whether we speak the truth or not in affirming that you agreed +to be governed by us in deed, though not in word?" What shall we say to +this, Crito? Can we do otherwise than assent? + +_Cri._ We must needs do so, Socrates. + +_Socr._ "What else, then," they will say, "are you doing but violating +the conventions and compacts which you made with us, though you did not +enter into them from compulsion or through deception, or from being +compelled to determine in a short time but during the space of seventy +years, in which you might have departed if you had been dissatisfied +with us, and the compacts had not appeared to you to be just? You, +however, preferred neither Lacedaemon nor Crete, which you several times +said are governed by good laws, nor any other of the Grecian or +barbarian cities; but you have been less out of Athens than the lame and +the blind, and other maimed persons. So much, it is evident, were you +satisfied with the city and us, the laws, beyond the rest of the +Athenians; for who can be satisfied with a city without laws? But now +will you not abide by your compacts? You will, if you are persuaded by +us, Socrates, and will not make yourself ridiculous by leaving the +city." + +15. "For consider, by violating these compacts and offending against any +of them, what good you will do to yourself or your friends. For that +your friends will run the risk of being themselves banished, and +deprived of the rights of citizenship, or of forfeiting their property, +is pretty clear. And as for yourself, if you should go to one of the +neighboring cities, either Thebes or Megara, for both are governed by +good laws, you will go there, Socrates, as an enemy to their polity; and +such as have any regard for their country will look upon you with +suspicion, regarding you as a corrupter of the laws; and you will +confirm the opinion of the judges, so that they will appear to have +condemned you rightly, for whose is a corrupter of the laws will appear +in all likelihood to be a corrupter of youths and weak-minded men. Will +you, then, avoid these well-governed cities, and the best-ordered men? +And should you do so, will it be worth your while to live? Or will you +approach them, and have the effrontery to converse with them, Socrates, +on subjects the same as you did here--that virtue and justice, legal +institutions and laws, should be most highly valued by men? And do you +not think that this conduct of Socrates would be very indecorous? You +must think so. But you will keep clear of these places, and go to +Thessaly, to Crito's friends, for there are the greatest disorder and +licentiousness; and perhaps they will gladly hear you relating how +drolly you escaped from prison, clad in some dress or covered with a +skin, or in some other disguise such as fugitives are wont to dress +themselves in, having so changed your usual appearance. And will no one +say that you, though an old man, with but a short time to live, in all +probability, have dared to have such a base desire of life as to violate +the most sacred laws? Perhaps not, should you not offend any one. But if +you should, you will hear, Socrates, many things utterly unworthy of +you. You will live, too, in a state of abject dependence on all men, +and as their slave. But what will you do in Thessaly besides feasting, +as if you had gone to Thessaly to a banquet? And what will become of +those discourses about justice and all other virtues? But do you wish to +live for the sake of your children, that you may rear and educate them? +What then? Will you take them to Thessaly, and there rear and educate +them, making them aliens to their country, that they may owe you this +obligation too? Or, if not so, being reared here, will they be better +reared and educated while you are living, though not with them, for your +friends will take care of them? Whether, if you go to Thessaly, will +they take care of them, but if you go to Hades will they not take care +of them? If, however, any advantage is to be derived from those that say +they are your friends, we must think they will." + +16. "Then, O Socrates! be persuaded by us who have nurtured you, and do +not set a higher value on your children, or on life, or on any thing +else than justice, that, when you arrive in Hades, you may have all this +to say in your defense before those who have dominion there. For neither +here in this life, if you do what is proposed, does it appear to be +better, or more just, or more holy to yourself, or any of your friends; +nor will it be better for you when you arrive there. But now you depart, +if you do depart, unjustly treated, not by us, the laws, but by men; but +should you escape, having thus disgracefully returned injury for injury, +and evil for evil, having violated your own compacts and conventions +which you made with us, and having done evil to those to whom you least +of all should have done it--namely, yourself, your friends, your +country, and us--both we shall be indignant with you as long as you +live, and there our brothers, the laws in Hades, will not receive you +favorably knowing that you attempted, so far as you were able, to +destroy us. Let not Crito, then, persuade you to do what he advises, +rather than we." + +17. These things, my dear friend Crito, be assured, I seem to hear as +the votaries of Cybele[11] seem to hear the flutes. And the sound of +these words booms in my ear, and makes me incapable of hearing any thing +else. Be sure, then, so long as I retain my present opinions, if you +should say any thing contrary to these, you will speak in vain. If, +however, you think that you can prevail at all, say on. + +_Cri._ But, Socrates, I have nothing to say. + +_Socr._ Desist, then, Crito, and let us pursue this course, since this +way the deity leads us. + + +FOOTNOTES + + [6] See the Phaedo sec 1. + + [7] A promontory at the southern extremity of Attica + + [8] The Eleven + + [9] See Homer's "Iliad," 1 IX, v 363 + + [10] That is to say, the principle which we had laid down in former + discussions that no regard is to be had to popular opinion, is still + found to hold good. + + [11] The Corybantes, priests of Cybele, who in their solemn festivals + made such a noise with flutes that the hearers could hear no other + sound. + + + + +INTRODUCTION TO THE PHAEDO. + + +This dialogue presents us with an account of the manner In which +Socrates spent the last day of his, life, and how he met his death. The +main subject is that of the soul's immortality, which Socrates takes +upon himself to prove with as much certainty as it is possible for the +human mind to arrive at. The question itself, though none could be +better suited to the occasion, arises simply and naturally from the +general conversation that precedes it. + +When his friends visit him in the morning for the purpose of spending +this his last day with him, they find him sitting up in bed, and rubbing +his leg, which had just been freed from bonds. He remarks on the +unaccountable alternation and connection between pleasure and pain, and +adds that AEsop, had he observed it, would have made a fable from it. +This remark reminds Cebes of Socrates's having put some of AEsop's fables +into metre since his imprisonment, and he asks, for the satisfaction of +the poet Evenus, what has induced him to do so. Socrates explains his +reason, and concludes by bidding him tell Evenus to follow him as soon +as he can. Simmias expresses his surprise at this message, on which +Socrates asks, "Is not Evenus a philosopher?" and on the question being +answered in the affirmative, he says that he or any philosopher would be +willing to die, though perhaps he would not commit violence on himself. +This, again, seems a contradiction to Simmias; but Socrates explains it +by showing that our souls are placed in the body by God, and may not +leave it without his permission. Whereupon Cebes objects that in that +case foolish men only would wish to die, and quit the service of the +best of masters, to which Simmias agrees. Socrates, therefore, proposes +to plead his cause before them, and to show that there is a great +probability that after this life he shall go into the presence of God +and good men, and be happy in proportion to the purity of his own mind. + +He begins[12] by stating that philosophy itself is nothing else than a +preparation for and meditation on death. Death and philosophy have this +in common: death separates the soul from the body; philosophy draws off +the mind from bodily things to the contemplation of truth and virtue: +for he is not a true philosopher who is led away by bodily pleasures, +since the senses are the source of ignorance and all evil. The mind, +therefore, is entirely occupied in meditating on death, and freeing +itself as much as possible from the body. How, then, can such a man be +afraid of death? He who grieves at the approach of death can not be a +true lover of wisdom, but is a lover of his body. And, indeed, most men +are temperate through intemperance; that is to say, they abstain from +some pleasures that they may the more easily and permanently enjoy +others. They embrace only a shadow of virtue, not virtue itself, since +they estimate the value of all things by the pleasures they afford. +Whereas the philosopher purifies his mind from all such things, and +pursues virtue and wisdom for their own sakes. This course Socrates +himself has pursued to the utmost of his ability, with what success he +should shortly know; and on these grounds he did not repine at leaving +his friends in this world, being persuaded that in another he should +meet with good masters and good friends. + +Upon this Cebes[13] says that he agrees with all else that had been +said, but can not help entertaining doubts of what will become of the +soul when separated from the body, for the common opinion is that it is +dispersed and vanishes like breath or smoke, and no longer exists +anywhere. Socrates, therefore, proposes to inquire into the probability +of the case, a fit employment for him under his present circumstances. + +His first argument[14] is drawn from the ancient belief prevalent among +men, that souls departing hence exist in Hades, and are produced again +from the dead. If this be true, it must follow that our souls are there, +for they could not be produced again if they did not exist; and its +truth is confirmed by this, that it is a general law of nature that +contraries are produced from contraries--the greater from the less, +strong from weak, slow from swift, heat from cold, and in like manner +life from death, and vice versa. To explain this more clearly, he +proceeds to show that what is changed passes from one state to another, +and so undergoes three different states--first, the actual state; then +the transition; and, thirdly, the new state; as from a state of sleep, +by awaking to being awake. In like manner birth is a transition from a +state of death to life, and dying from life to death; so that the soul, +by the act of dying, only passes to another state. If it were not so, +all nature would in time become dead, just as if people did not awake +out of sleep all would at last be buried in eternal sleep. Whence the +conclusion is that the souls of men are not annihilated by death. + +Cebes[15] agrees to this reasoning, and adds that he is further +convinced, of its truth by calling to mind an argument used by Socrates +on former occasions, that knowledge is nothing but reminiscence; and if +this is so, the soul must have existed, and had knowledge, before it +became united to the body. + +But in case Simmias should not yet be satisfied, Socrates[16] proceeds +to enlarge on this, his second argument, drawn from reminiscence. We +daily find that we are carried from the knowledge of one thing to +another. Things perceived by the eyes, ears, and other senses bring up +the thought of other things; thus the sight of a lyre or a garment +reminds us of a friend, and not only are we thus reminded of sensible +objects, but of things which are comprehended by the mind alone, and +have no sensitive existence. For we have formed in our minds an idea of +abstract equality, of the beautiful, the just, the good; in short, of +every thing which we say exists without the aid of the senses, for we +use them only in the perception of individual things; whence it follows +that the mind did not acquire this knowledge in this life, but must have +had it before, and therefore the soul must have existed before. + +Simmias and Cebes[17] both agree in admitting that Socrates has proved +the pre-existence of the soul, but insist that he has not shown it to be +immortal, for that nothing hinders but that, according to the popular +opinion, it may be dispersed at the dissolution of the body. To which +Socrates replies, that if their former admissions are joined to his last +argument, the immortality, as well as the pre-existence, of the soul has +been sufficiently proved. For if it is true that any thing living is +produced from that which is dead, then the soul must exist after death, +otherwise it could not be produced again. + +However, to remove the apprehension that the soul may be dispersed by a +wind, as it were, Socrates proceeds, in his third argument,[18] to +examine that doubt more thoroughly. What, then, is meant by being +dispersed but being dissolved into its parts? In order, therefore, to a +thing being capable of dispersion it must be compounded of parts. Now, +there are two kinds of things--one compounded, the other simple The +former kind is subject to change, the latter not, and can be +comprehended by the mind alone. The one is visible, the other invisible; +and the soul, which is invisible, when it employs the bodily senses, +wanders and is confused, but when it abstracts itself from the body it +attains to the knowledge of that which is eternal, immortal, and +unchangeable. The soul, therefore, being uncompounded and invisible, +must be indissoluble; that is to say, immortal. + +Still Simmias and Cebes[19] are unconvinced. The former objects that the +soul, according to Socrates's own showing, is nothing but a harmony +resulting from a combination of the parts of the body, and so may perish +with the body, as the harmony of a lyre does when the lyre itself is +broken. And Cebes, though he admits that the soul is more durable than +the body, yet objects that it is not, therefore, of necessity immortal, +but may in time wear out; and it is by no means clear that this is not +its last period. + +These objections produce a powerful effect on the rest of the company; +but Socrates, undismayed, exhorts them not to suffer themselves to be +deterred from seeking the truth by any difficulties they may meet with; +and then proceeds[20] to show, in a moment, the fallacy of Simmias's +objection. It was before admitted, he says, that the soul existed before +the body; but harmony is produced after the lyre is formed, so that the +two cases are totally different. And, further, there are various degrees +of harmony, but every soul is as much a soul as any other. But, then, +what will a person who holds this doctrine, that the soul is harmony, +say of virtue and vice in the soul? Will he call them another kind of +harmony and discord? If so, he will contradict himself; for it is +admitted that one soul is not more or less a soul than another, and +therefore one can not he more or less harmonized than another, and one +could not admit of a greater degree of virtue or vice than another; and +indeed a soul, being harmony, could not partake of vice at all, which is +discord. + +Socrates, having thus satisfactorily answered the argument adduced by +Simmias, goes on to rebut that of Cebes,[21] who objected that the soul +might in time wear out. In order to do this, he relates that, when a +young man, he attempted to investigate the causes of all things, why +they exist and why they perish; and in the course of his researches, +finding the futility of attributing the existence of things to what are +called natural causes, he resolved on endeavoring to find out the +reasons of things. He therefore assumed that there are a certain +abstract beauty and goodness and magnitude, and so of all other things; +the truth of which being granted, he thinks he shall be able to prove +that the soul is immortal. + +This, then, being conceded by Cebes, Socrates[22] argues that every +thing that is beautiful is so from partaking of abstract beauty, and +great from partaking of magnitude, and little from partaking of +littleness. Now, it is impossible, he argues, that contraries can exist +in the same thing at the same time; for instance, the same thing can not +possess both magnitude and littleness, but one will withdraw at the +approach of the other; and not only so, but things which, though not +contrary to each other, yet always contain contraries within themselves, +can not co-exist; for instance, the number three has no contrary, yet +it contains within itself the idea of odd, which is the contrary of +even, and so three never can become even; in like manner, heat while it +is heat can never admit the idea of its contrary, cold. Now, if this +method of reasoning is applied to the soul, it will be found to be +immortal; for life and death are contraries, and never can co-exist; but +wherever the soul is, there is life: so that it contains within itself +that which is contrary to death, and consequently can never admit of +death; therefore it is immortal. + +With this he closes his arguments in support of the soul's immortality. +Cebes owns himself convinced, but Simmias, though he is unable to make +any objection to the soundness of Socrates's reasoning, can not help +still entertaining doubts on the subject. If, however, the soul is +immortal, Socrates proceeds,[23] great need is there in this life to +endeavor to become as wise and good as possible. For if death were a +deliverance from every thing, it would be a great gain for the wicked; +but since the soul appears to be immortal, it must go to the place +suited to its nature. For it is said that each person's demon conducts +him to a place where he receives sentence according to his deserts. + +He then[24] draws a fanciful picture of the various regions of the +earth, to which the good and the bad will respectively go after death, +and exhorts his friends to use every endeavor to acquire virtue and +wisdom in this life, "for," he adds, "the reward is noble, and the hope +great." + +Having thus brought his subject to a conclusion, Socrates proposes to +bathe himself, in order not to trouble others to wash his dead body. +Crito thereupon asks if he has any commands to give, and especially how +he would be buried, to which he, with his usual cheerfulness, makes +answer, "Just as you please, if only you can catch me;" and then, +smiling, he reminds them that after death he shall be no longer with +them, and begs the others of the party to be sureties to Crito for his +absence from the body, as they had been before bound for his presence +before his judges. + +After he had bathed, and taken leave of his children and the women of +his family the officer of the Eleven comes in to intimate to him that it +is now time to drink the poison. Crito urges a little delay, as the sun +had not yet set; but Socrates refuses to make himself ridiculous by +showing such a fondness for life. The man who is to administer the +poison is therefore sent for; and on his holding out the cup, Socrates, +neither trembling nor changing color or countenance at all, but, as he +was wont, looking steadfastly at the man, asked if he might make a +libation to any one; and being told that no more poison than enough had +been mixed, he simply prayed that his departure from this to another +world might be happy, and then drank off the poison, readily and calmly. +His friends, who had hitherto with difficulty restrained themselves, +could no longer control the outward expressions of grief, to which +Socrates said, "What are you doing, my friends? I, for this reason, +chiefly, sent away the women, that they might not commit any folly of +this kind; for I have heard that it is right to die with good omens. Be +quiet, therefore, and bear up." + +When he had walked about for a while his legs began to grow heavy, so he +lay down on his back; and his body, from the feet upward, gradually grew +cold and stiff. His last words were, "Crito, we owe a cock to +AEsculapius; pay it, therefore, and do not neglect it." + +"This," concludes Phaedo, "was the end of our friend--a man, as we may +say, the best of all his time, that we have known, and, moreover, the +most wise and just." + + +FOOTNOTES + + [12] Sec. 21-39. + + [13] Sec. 39, 40. + + [14] Sec. 40-46. + + [15] Sec. 47. + + [16] Sec. 48-57. + + [17] Sec. 55-59. + + [18] Sec. 61-75. + + [19] Sec. 76-84. + + [20] Sec. 93-99. + + [21] Sec. 100-112. + + [22] Sec. 112-128. + + [23] Sec. 129-131. + + [24] Sec. 132-145. + + + + +PHAEDO; +OR, +THE IMMORTALITY OF THE SOUL. + + +FIRST ECHECRATES, PHAEDO. +THEN SOCRATES, APOLLODORUS, CEBES, SIMMIAS, AND CRITO. + +_Ech._ Were you personally present, Phaedo, with Socrates on that day +when he drank the poison in prison, or did you hear an account of it +from some one else? + +_Phaed._ I was there myself, Echecrates. + +_Ech._ What, then, did he say before his death, and how did he die? for +I should be glad to hear: for scarcely any citizen of Phlius[25] ever +visits Athens now, nor has any stranger for a long time come from thence +who was able to give us a clear account of the particulars, except that +he had died from drinking poison; but he was unable to tell us any thing +more. + +2. _Phaed._ And did you not hear about the trial--how it went off? + +_Ech._ Yes; some one told me this; and I wondered that, as it took +place so long ago, he appears to have died long afterward. What was the +reason of this, Phaedo? + +_Phaed._ An accidental circumstance happened in his favor, Echecrates; +for the poop of the ship which the Athenians send to Delos chanced to be +crowned on the day before the trial. + +_Ech._ But what is this ship? + +_Phaed._ It is the ship, as the Athenians say, in which Theseus formerly +conveyed the fourteen boys and girls to Crete, and saved both them and +himself. They, therefore, made a vow to Apollo on that occasion, as it +is said, that if they were saved they would every year dispatch a solemn +embassy to Delos; which, from that time to the present, they send yearly +to the god. 3. When they begin the preparations for this solemn embassy, +they have a law that the city shall be purified during this period, and +that no public execution shall take place until the ship has reached +Delos, and returned to Athens; and this occasionally takes a long time, +when the winds happen to impede their passage. The commencement of the +embassy is when the priest of Apollo has crowned the poop of the ship. +And this was done, as I said, on the day before the trial: on this +account Socrates had a long interval in prison between the trial and his +death. + +4. _Ech._ And what, Phaedo, were the circumstances of his death? What was +said and done? and who of his friends were with him? or would not the +magistrates allow them to be present, but did he die destitute of +friends? + +_Phaed._ By no means; but some, indeed several, were present. + +_Ech._ Take the trouble, then, to relate to me all the particulars as +clearly as you can, unless you have any pressing business. + +_Phaed._ I am at leisure, and will endeavor to give you a full account; +for to call Socrates to mind, whether speaking myself or listening to +some one else, is always most delightful to me. + +5. _Ech._ And indeed, Phaedo, you have others to listen to you who are of +the same mind. However, endeavor to relate every thing as accurately as +you can. + +_Phaed._ I was, indeed, wonderfully affected by being present, for I was +not impressed with a feeling of pity, like one present at the death of a +friend; for the man appeared to me to be happy, Echecrates, both from +his manner and discourse, so fearlessly and nobly did he meet his death: +so much so, that it occurred to me that in going to Hades he was not +going without a divine destiny, but that when he arrived there he would +be happy, if any one ever was. For this reason I was entirely +uninfluenced by any feeling of pity, as would seem likely to be the case +with one present on so mournful an occasion; nor was I affected by +pleasure from being engaged in philosophical discussions, as was our +custom; for our conversation was of that kind. But an altogether +unaccountable feeling possessed me, a kind of unusual mixture compounded +of pleasure and pain together, when I considered that he was immediately +about to die. And all of us who were present were affected in much the +same manner, at one time laughing, at another weeping--one of us +especially, Apollodorus, for you know the man and his manner. + +_Ech._ How should I not? + +6. _Phaed._ He, then, was entirely overcome by these emotions; and I, +too, was troubled, as well as the others. + +_Ech._ But who were present, Phaedo? + +_Phaed._ Of his fellow-countrymen, this Apollodorus was present, and +Critobulus, and his father, Crito; moreover, Hermogenes, Epigenes, +AEschines and Antisthenes; Ctesippus the Paeanian, Menexenus, and some +others of his countrymen, were also there: Plato, I think, was sick. + +_Ech._ Were any strangers present? + +_Phaed._ Yes; Simmias, the Theban, Cebes and Phaedondes; and from Megara, +Euclides and Terpsion. + +7. _Ech._ But what! were not Aristippus and Cleombrotus present? + +_Phaed._ No, for they were said to be at AEgina. + +_Ech._ Was any one else there? + +_Phaed._ I think that these were nearly all who were present. + +_Ech._ Well, now, what do you say was the subject of conversation? + +_Phaed._ I will endeavor to relate the whole to you from the beginning. +On the preceding days I and the others were constantly in the habit of +visiting Socrates, meeting early in the morning at the court house where +the trial took place, for it was near the prison. 8. Here, then, we +waited every day till the prison was opened, conversing with each other, +for it was not opened very early; but as soon as it was opened we went +in to Socrates, and usually spent the day with him. On that occasion, +however, we met earlier than usual; for on the preceding day, when we +left the prison in the evening, we heard that the ship had arrived from +Delos. We therefore urged each other to come as early as possible to the +accustomed place. Accordingly we came; and the porter, who used to admit +us, coming out, told us to wait, and not to enter until he had called +us. "For," he said, "the Eleven are now freeing Socrates from his bonds, +and announcing to him that he must die to-day." But in no long time he +returned, and bade us enter. + +9. When we entered, we found Socrates just freed from his bonds, and +Xantippe, you know her, holding his little boy, and sitting by him. As +soon as Xantippe saw us she wept aloud, and said such things as women +usually do on such occasions--as, "Socrates, your friends will now +converse with you for the last time, and you with them." But Socrates, +looking towards Crito, said: "Crito, let some one take her home." Upon +which some of Crito's attendants led her away, wailing and beating +herself. + +But Socrates, sitting up in bed, drew up his leg, and rubbed it with his +hand, and as he rubbed it, said: "What an unaccountable thing, my +friends, that seems to be, which men call pleasure! and how wonderfully +is it related toward that which appears to be its contrary, pain, in +that they will not both be present to a man at the same time! Yet if any +one pursues and attains the one, he is almost always compelled to +receive the other, as if they were both united together from one head." + +10. "And it seems tome," he said, "that if AEsop had observed this he +would have made a fable from it, how the deity, wishing to reconcile +these warring principles, when he could not do so, united their heads +together, and from hence whomsoever the one visits the other attends +immediately after; as appears to be the case with me, since I suffered +pain in my leg before from the chain, but now pleasure seems to have +succeeded." + +Hereupon Cebes, interrupting him, said: "By Jupiter! Socrates, you have +done well in reminding me; with respect to the poems which you made, by +putting into metre those Fables of AEsop and the hymn to Apollo, several +other persons asked me, and especially Evenus recently, with what design +you made them after you came here, whereas before you had never made +any. 11. If therefore, you care at all that I should be able to answer +Evenus, when he asks me again--for I am sure he will do so--tell me +what I must say to him." + +"Tell him the truth, then, Cebes," he replied, "that I did not make them +from a wish to compete with him, or his poems, for I knew that this +would be no easy matter; but that I might discover the meaning of +certain dreams, and discharge my conscience, if this should happen to be +the music which they have often ordered me to apply myself to. For they +were to the following purport: often in my past life the same dream +visited me, appearing at different times in different forms, yet always +saying the same thing--'Socrates,' it said, 'apply yourself to and +practice music.' 12. And I formerly supposed that it exhorted and +encouraged me to continue the pursuit I was engaged in, as those who +cheer on racers, so that the dream encouraged me to continue the pursuit +I was engaged in--namely, to apply myself to music, since philosophy is +the highest music, and I was devoted to it. But now since my trial took +place, and the festival of the god retarded my death, it appeared to me +that if by chance the dream so frequently enjoined me to apply myself to +popular music, I ought not to disobey it, but do so, for that it would +be safer for me not to depart hence before I had discharged my +conscience by making some poems in obedience to the dream. Thus, then, I +first of all composed a hymn to the god whose festival was present; and +after the god, considering that a poet, if he means to be a poet, ought +to make fables, and not discourses, and knowing that I was not skilled +in making fables, I therefore put into verse those Fables of AEsop, which +were at hand, and were known to me, and which first occurred to me." + +13. "Tell this, then, to Evenus, Cebes, and bid him farewell, and if he +is wise, to follow me as soon as he can. But I depart, as it seems, +to-day; for so the Athenians order." + +To this Simmias said, "What is this, Socrates, which you exhort Evenus +to do? for I often meet with him; and, from what I know of him, I am +pretty certain that he will not at all be willing to comply with your +advice." + +"What, then," said he, "is not Evenus a philosopher?" + +"To me he seems to be so," said Simmias. + +"Then he will be willing," rejoined Socrates, "and so will every one who +worthily engages in this study. Perhaps, indeed, he will not commit +violence on himself; for that, they say, is not allowable." And as he +said this he let down his leg from the bed on the ground, and in this +posture continued during the remainder of the discussion. + +Cebes then asked him, "What do you mean, Socrates, by saying that it is +not lawful to commit violence on one's self, but that a philosopher +should be willing to follow one who is dying?" + +14. "What, Cebes! have not you and Simmias, who have conversed +familiarly with Philolaus[26] on this subject, heard?" + +"Nothing very clearly, Socrates." + +"I, however, speak only from hearsay; what, then, I have heard I have no +scruple in telling. And perhaps it is most becoming for one who is about +to travel there to inquire and speculate about the journey thither, what +kind we think it is. What else can one do in the interval before +sunset?" + +"Why, then, Socrates, do they say that it is not allowable to kill one's +self? for I, as you asked just now, have heard both Philolaus, when he +lived with us, and several others, say that it was not right to do this; +but I never heard any thing clear upon the subject from any one." + +15. "Then, you should consider it attentively," said Socrates, "for +perhaps you may hear. Probably, however, it will appear wonderful to +you, if this alone, of all other things, is a universal truth,[27] and +it never happens to a man, as is the case in all other things, that at +some times and to some persons only it is better to die than to live; +yet that these men for whom it is better to die--this probably will +appear wonderful to you--may not without impiety do this good to +themselves, but must await another benefactor." + +16. Then Cebes, gently smiling, said, speaking in his own dialect,[28] +"Jove be witness!" + +"And, indeed," said Socrates, "it would appear to be unreasonable; yet +still, perhaps, it has some reason on its side. The maxim, indeed, given +on this subject in the mystical doctrines,[29] that we men are in a kind +of prison, and that we ought not to free ourselves from it and escape, +appears to me difficult to be understood, and not easy to penetrate. +This, however, appears to me, Cebes, to be well said: that the gods take +care of us, and that we men are one of their possessions. Does it not +seem so to you?" + +"It does," replied Cebes. + +"Therefore," said he, "if one of your slaves were to kill himself, +without your having intimated that you wished him to die, should you not +be angry with him, and should you not punish him if you could?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +"Perhaps, then, in this point of view, it is not unreasonable to assert +that a man ought not to kill himself before the deity lays him under a +necessity of doing so, such as that now laid on me." + +17. "This, indeed," said Cebes, "appears to be probable. But what you +said just now, Socrates, that philosophers should be very willing to +die, appears to be an absurdity, if what we said just now is agreeable +to reason--that it is God who takes care of us, and that we are his +property. For that the wisest men should not be grieved at leaving that +service in which they govern them who are the best of all +masters--namely, the gods--is not consistent with reason; for surely he +can not think that he will take better care of himself when he has +become free. But a foolish man might perhaps think thus, that he should +fly from his master, and would not reflect that he ought not to fly from +a good one, but should cling to him as much as possible; therefore he +would fly against all reason; but a man of sense would desire to be +constantly with one better than himself. Thus, Socrates, the contrary of +what you just now said is likely to be the case; for it becomes the wise +to be grieved at dying, but the foolish to rejoice." + +18. Socrates, on hearing this, appeared to me to be pleased with the +pertinacity of Cebes, and, looking toward us, said, "Cebes, you see, +always searches out arguments, and is not at all willing to admit at +once any thing one has said." + +Whereupon Simmias replied, "But, indeed, Socrates, Cebes appears to me +now to say something to the purpose; for with what design should men +really wise fly from masters who are better than themselves, and so +readily leave them? And Cebes appears to me to direct his argument +against you, because you so easily endure to abandon both us and those +good rulers, as you yourself confess, the gods." + +"You speak justly," said Socrates, "for I think you mean that I ought to +make my defense to this charge, as if I were in a court of justice." + +"Certainly," replied Simmias. + +19. "Come, then," said he, "I will endeavor to defend myself more +successfully before you than before the judges. For," he proceeded, +"Simmias and Cebes, if I did not think that I should go, first of all, +among other deities who are both wise and good, and, next, among men who +have departed this life, better than any here, I should be wrong in not +grieving at death; but now, be assured, I hope to go among good men, +though I would not positively assert it. That, however, I shall go among +gods who are perfectly good masters, be assured I can positively assert +this, if I can any thing of the kind. So that, on this account, I am not +so much troubled, but I entertain a good hope that something awaits +those who die, and that, as was said long since, it will be far better +for the good than the evil." + +20. "What, then, Socrates," said Simmias, "would you go away keeping +this persuasion to yourself, or would you impart it to us? For this good +appears to me to be also common to us; and at the same time it will be +an apology for you, if you can persuade us to believe what you say." + +"I will endeavor to do so," he said. "But first let us attend to Crito +here, and see what it is he seems to have for some time wished to say." + +"What else, Socrates," said Crito, "but what he who is to give you the +poison told me some time ago, that I should tell you to speak as little +as possible? For he says that men become too much heated by speaking, +and that nothing of this kind ought to interfere with the poison; and +that, otherwise, those who did so were sometimes compelled to drink two +or three times." + +To which Socrates replied, "Let him alone, and let him attend to his own +business, and prepare to give it me twice, or, if occasion require, even +thrice." + +21. "I was almost certain what you would say," answered Crito, "but he +has been some time pestering me." + +"Never mind him," he rejoined. + +"But now I wish to render an account to you, my judges, of the reason +why a man who has really devoted his life to philosophy, when he is +about to die, appears to me, on good grounds, to have confidence, and to +entertain a firm hope that the greatest good will befall him in the +other world when he has departed this life. How, then, this comes to +pass, Simmias and Cebes, I will endeavor to explain." + +"For as many as rightly apply themselves to philosophy seem to have left +all others in ignorance, that they aim at nothing else than to die and +be dead. If this, then, is true, it would surely be absurd to be anxious +about nothing else than this during their whole life, but, when it +arrives, to be grieved at what they have been long anxious about and +aimed at." + +22. Upon this, Simmias, smiling, said, "By Jupiter! Socrates, though I +am not now at all inclined to smile, you have made me do so; for I think +that the multitude, if they heard this, would think it was very well +said in reference to philosophers, and that our countrymen particularly +would agree with you, that true philosophers do desire death, and that +they are by no means ignorant that they deserve to suffer it." + +"And, indeed, Simmias, they would speak the truth, except in asserting +that they are not ignorant; for they are ignorant of the sense in which +true philosophers desire to die, and in what sense they deserve death, +and what kind of death. But," he said, "let us take leave of them, and +speak to one another. Do we think that death is any thing?" + +"Certainly," replied Simmias. + +23. "Is it any thing else than the separation of the soul from the +body? And is not this to die, for the body to be apart by itself +separated from the soul, and for the soul to subsist apart by itself +separated from the body? Is death any thing else than this?" + +"No, but this," he replied. + +"Consider, then, my good friend, whether you are of the same opinion as +I; for thus, I think, we shall understand better the subject we are +considering. Does it appear to you to be becoming in a philosopher to be +anxious about pleasures, as they are called, such as meats and drinks?" + +"By no means, Socrates," said Simmias. + +"But what? about the pleasures of love?" + +"Not at all." + +24. "What, then? Does such a man appear to you to think other bodily +indulgences of value? For instance, does he seem to you to value or +despise the possession of magnificent garments and sandals, and other +ornaments of the body except so far as necessity compels him to use +them?" + +"The true philosopher," he answered, "appears to me to despise them." + +"Does not, then," he continued, "the whole employment of such a man +appear to you to be, not about the body, but to separate himself from it +as much as possible, and be occupied about his soul?" + +"It does." + +"First of all, then, in such matters, does not the philosopher, above +all other men, evidently free his soul as much as he can from communion +with the body?" + +"It appears so." + +25. "And it appears, Simmias, to the generality of men, that he who +takes no pleasure in such things, and who does not use them, does not +deserve to live; but that he nearly approaches to death who cares +nothing for the pleasures that subsist through the body." + +"You speak very truly." + +"But what with respect to the acquisition of wisdom? Is the body an +impediment, or not, if any one takes it with him as a partner in the +search? What I mean is this: Do sight and hearing convey any truth to +men, or are they such as the poets constantly sing, who say that we +neither hear nor see any thing with accuracy? If, however, these bodily +senses are neither accurate nor clear, much less can the others be so; +for they are all far inferior to these. Do they not seem so to you?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +26. "When, then," said he, "does the soul light on the truth? for when +it attempts to consider any thing in conjunction with the body, it is +plain that it is then led astray by it." + +"You say truly." + +"Must it not, then, be by reasoning, if at all, that any of the things +that really are become known to it?" + +"Yes." + +"And surely the soul then reasons best when none of these things disturb +it--neither hearing, nor sight, nor pain, nor pleasure of any kind; but +it retires as much as possible within itself, taking leave of the body; +and, so far as it can, not communicating or being in contact with it, it +aims at the discovery of that which is." + +"Such is the case." + +"Does not, then, the soul of the philosopher, in these cases, despise +the body, and flee from it, and seek to retire within itself?" + +"It appears so." + +27. "But what as to such things as these, Simmias? Do we say that +justice itself is something or nothing?" + +"We say it is something, by Jupiter!" + +"And that beauty and goodness are something?" + +"How not?" + +"Now, then, have you ever seen any thing of this kind with your eyes?" + +"By no means," he replied. + +"Did you ever lay hold of them by any other bodily sense? But I speak +generally, as of magnitude, health, strength and, in a word, of the +essence of every thing; that is to say, what each is. Is, then, the +exact truth of these perceived by means of the body, or is it thus, +whoever among us habituates himself to reflect most deeply and +accurately on each several thing about which he is considering, he will +make the nearest approach to the knowledge of it?" + +"Certainly." + +28. "Would not he, then, do this with the utmost purity, who should in +the highest degree approach each subject by means of the mere mental +faculties, neither employing the sight in conjunction with the +reflective faculty, nor introducing any other sense together with +reasoning; but who, using pure reflection by itself, should attempt to +search out each essence purely by itself, freed as much as possible from +the eyes and ears, and, in a word, from the whole body, as disturbing +the soul, and not suffering it to acquire truth and wisdom, when it is +in communion with it. Is not he the person, Simmias, if any one can, who +will arrive at the knowledge of that which is?" + +29. "You speak with wonderful truth, Socrates," replied Simmias. + +"Wherefore," he said, "it necessarily follows from all this that some +such opinion as this should be entertained by genuine philosophers, so +that they should speak among themselves as follows: 'A by-path, as it +were, seems to lead us on in our researches undertaken by reason,' +because so long as we are encumbered with the body, and our soul is +contaminated with such an evil, we can never fully attain to what we +desire; and this, we say, is truth. For the body subjects us to +innumerable hinderances on account of its necessary support; and, +moreover, if any diseases befall us, they impede us in our search after +that which is; and it fills us with longings, desires, fears, all kinds +of fancies, and a multitude of absurdities, so that, as it is said in +real truth, by reason of the body it is never possible for us to make +any advances in wisdom. 30. For nothing else than the body and its +desires occasion wars, seditions, and contests; for all wars among us +arise on account of our desire to acquire wealth: and we are compelled +to acquire wealth on account of the body, being enslaved to its service; +and consequently on all these accounts we are hindered in the pursuit of +philosophy. But the worst of all is, that if it leaves us any leisure, +and we apply ourselves to the consideration of any subject, it +constantly obtrudes itself in the midst of our researches, and occasions +trouble and disturbance, and confounds us so that we are not able, by +reason of it, to discern the truth. It has, then, in reality been +demonstrated to us that if we are ever to know any thing purely, we must +be separated from the body, and contemplate the things themselves by the +mere soul; and then, as it seems, we shall obtain that which we desire, +and which we profess ourselves to be lovers of--wisdom--when we are +dead, as reason shows, but not while we are alive. 31. For if it is not +possible to know any thing purely in conjunction with the body, one of +these two things must follow, either that we can never acquire +knowledge, or only after we are dead; for then the soul will subsist +apart by itself, separate from the body, but not before. And while we +live we shall thus, as it seems, approach nearest to knowledge, if we +hold no intercourse or communion at all with the body, except what +absolute necessity requires, nor suffer ourselves to be polluted by its +nature, but purify ourselves from it, until God himself shall release +us. And thus being pure, and freed from the folly of body, we shall in +all likelihood be with others like ourselves, and shall of ourselves +know the whole real essence, and that probably is truth; for it is not +allowable for the impure to attain to the pure. Such things, I think, +Simmias, all true lovers of wisdom must both think and say to one +another. Does it not seem so to you?" + +"Most assuredly, Socrates." + +32. "If this, then," said Socrates, "is true, my friend, there is great +hope for one who arrives where I am going, there, if anywhere, to +acquire that in perfection for the sake of which we have taken so much +pains during our past life; so that the journey now appointed me is set +out upon with good hope, and will be so by any other man who thinks that +his mind has been, as it were, purified." + +"Certainly," said Simmias. + +"But does not purification consist in this, as was said in a former part +of our discourse, in separating as much as possible the soul from the +body, and in accustoming it to gather and collect itself by itself on +all sides apart from the body, and to dwell, so far as it can, both now +and hereafter, alone by itself, delivered, as it were, from the shackles +of the body?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +33. "Is this, then, called death, this deliverance and separation of the +soul from the body?" + +"Assuredly," he answered. + +"But, as we affirmed, those who pursue philosophy rightly are especially +and alone desirous to deliver it; and this is the very study of +philosophers, the deliverance and separation of the soul from the body, +is it not?" + +"It appears so." + +"Then, as I said at first, would it not be ridiculous for a man who has +endeavored throughout his life to live as near as possible to death, +then, when death arrives, to grieve? would not this be ridiculous?" + +"How should it not?" + +"In reality, then, Simmias," he continued, "those who pursue philosophy +rightly, study to die; and to them, of all men, death is least +formidable. Judge from this. Since they altogether hate the body and +desire to keep the soul by itself, would it not be irrational if, when +this comes to pass, they should be afraid and grieve, and not be glad to +go to that place where, on their arrival, they may hope to obtain that +which they longed for throughout life? But they longed for wisdom, and +to be freed from association with that which they hated. 34. Have many +of their own accord wished to descend into Hades, on account of human +objects of affection, their wives and sons, induced by this very hope of +their seeing and being with those whom they have loved? and shall one +who really loves wisdom, and firmly cherishes this very hope, that he +shall nowhere else attain it in a manner worthy of the name, except in +Hades, be grieved at dying, and not gladly go there? We must think that +he would gladly go, my friend, if he be in truth a philosopher; for he +will be firmly persuaded of this, that he will nowhere else than there +attain wisdom in its purity; and if this be so, would it not be very +irrational, as I just now said, if such a man were to be afraid of +death?" + +"Very much so, by Jupiter!" he replied. + +35. "Would not this, then," he resumed, "be a sufficient proof to you +with respect to a man whom you should see grieved when about to die, +that he was not a lover of wisdom, but a lover of his body? And this +same person is probably a lover of riches and a lover of honor, one or +both of these." + +"It certainly is as you say," he replied. + +"Does not, then," he said, "that which is called fortitude, Simmias, +eminently belong to philosophers?" + +"By all means," he answered. + +"And temperance, also, which even the multitude call temperance, and +which consists in not being carried away by the passions, but in holding +them in contempt, and keeping them in subjection, does not this belong +to those only who most despise the body, and live in the study of +philosophy?" + +"Necessarily so," he replied. + +36. "For," he continued, "if you will consider the fortitude and +temperance of others, they will appear to you to be absurd." + +"How so, Socrates?" + +"Do you know," he said, "that all others consider death among the great +evils?" + +"They do indeed," he answered. + +"Then, do the brave among them endure death when they do endure it, +through dread of greater evils?" + +"It is so." + +"All men, therefore, except philosophers, are brave through being afraid +and fear; though it is absurd that any one should be brave through fear +and cowardice." + +"Certainly." + +"But what, are not those among them who keep their passions in +subjection affected in the same way? and are they not temperate through +a kind of intemperance? And although we may say, perhaps, that this is +impossible, nevertheless the manner in which they are affected with +respect to this silly temperance resembles this, for, fearing to be +deprived of other pleasures, and desiring them, they abstain from some, +being mastered by others. And though they call intemperance the being +governed by pleasures, yet it happens to them that, by being mastered by +some pleasures, they master others, and this is similar to what was just +now said, that in a certain manner they become temperate through +intemperance." + +"So it seems," + +37. "My dear Simmias, consider that this is not a right exchange for +virtue, to barter pleasures for pleasures, pains for pains, fear for +fear, and the greater for the lesser, like pieces of money, but that +that alone is the right coin, for which we ought to barter all these +things, wisdom, and for this and with this everything is in reality +bought and sold Fortitude, temperance and justice, and, in a word true +virtue, subsist with wisdom, whether pleasures and fears, and everything +else of the kind, are present or absent, but when separated from wisdom +and changed one for another, consider whether such virtue is not a mere +outline and in reality servile, possessing neither soundness nor truth. +But the really true virtue is a purification from all such things, and +temperance, justice, fortitude and wisdom itself, are a kind of +initiatory purification 38. And those who instituted the mysteries for +us appear to have been by no means contemptible, but in reality to have +intimated long since that whoever shall arrive in Hades unexpiated and +uninitiated shall lie in mud, but he that arrives there purified and +initiated shall dwell with the gods 'For there are,' say those who +preside at the mysteries, 'many wand-bearers, but few inspired'. These +last, in my opinion, are no other than those who have pursued philosophy +rightly that I might be of their number. I have to the utmost of my +ability left no means untried, but have endeavored to the utmost of my +power. But whether I have endeavored rightly, and have in any respect +succeeded, on arriving there I shall know clearly, if it please +God--very shortly, as it appears to me." + +39. "Such, then, Simmias and Cebes," he added, "is the defense I make, +for that I, on good grounds, do not repine or grieve at leaving you and +my masters here, being persuaded that there, no less than here, I shall +meet with good masters and friends. But to the multitude this is +incredible If, however, I have succeeded better with you in my defense +than I did with the Athenian judges, it is well." + +When Socrates had thus spoken, Cebes, taking up the discussion, said +"Socrates, all the rest appears to me to be said rightly, but what you +have said respecting the soul will occasion much incredulity in many +from the apprehension that when it is separated from the body it no +longer exists anywhere, but is destroyed and perishes on the very day in +which a man dies, and that immediately it is separated and goes out from +the body it is dispersed, and vanishes like breath or smoke, and is no +longer anywhere, since if it remained anywhere united in itself, and +freed from those evils which you have just now enumerated, there would +be an abundant and good hope, Socrates, that what you say is true 40. +But this probably needs no little persuasion and proof, that the soul of +a man who dies exists, and possesses activity and intelligence." + +"You say truly, Cebes," said Socrates, "but what shall we do? Are you +willing that we should converse on these points, whether such is +probably the case or not?" + +"Indeed," replied Cebes, "I should gladly hear your opinion on these +matters." + +"I do not think," said Socrates, "that any one who should now hear us, +even though he were a comic poet, would say that I am talking idly, or +discoursing on subjects that do not concern me. If you please, then, we +will examine into it. Let us consider it in this point of view, whether +the souls of men who are dead exist in Hades, or not. This is an ancient +saying, which we now call to mind, that souls departing hence exist +there, and return hither again, and are produced from the dead. 41. And +if this is so, that the living are produced again from the dead, can +there be any other consequence than that our souls are there? for surely +they could not be produced again if they did not exist; and this would +be sufficient proof that these things are so, if it should in reality be +evident that the living are produced from no other source than the dead. +But if this is not the case, there will be need of other arguments." + +"Certainly," said Cebes. + +"You must not, then," he continued, "consider this only with respect to +men, if you wish to ascertain it with greater certainty, but also with +respect to all animals and plants, and, in a word, with respect to every +thing that is subject to generation. Let us see whether they are not all +so produced, no otherwise than contraries from contraries, wherever they +have any such quality; as, for instance, the honorable is contrary to +the base, and the just to the unjust, and so with ten thousand other +things. 42. Let us consider this, then, whether it is necessary that all +things which have a contrary should be produced from nothing else than +their contrary. As, for instance, when any thing becomes greater, is it +not necessary that, from being previously smaller, it afterward became +greater?" + +"Yes." + +"And if it becomes smaller, will it not, from being previously greater, +afterward become smaller?" + +"It is so," he replied. + +"And from stronger, weaker? and from slower, swifter?" + +"Certainly." + +"What, then? If any thing becomes worse, must it not become so from +better? and if more just, from more unjust?" + +"How should it not?" + +"We have then," he said, "sufficiently determined this, that all things +are thus produced, contraries from contraries?" + +"Certainly." + +"What next? Is there also something of this kind in them; for instance, +between all two contraries a mutual twofold production, from one to the +other, and from that other back again? for between a greater thing and a +smaller there are increase and decrease, and do we not accordingly call +the one to increase, the other to decrease?" + +"Yes," he replied. + +43. "And must not to be separated and commingled, to grow cold and to +grow warm, and every thing in the same manner, even though sometimes we +have not names to designate them, yet in fact be everywhere thus +circumstanced, of necessity, as to be produced from each other, and be +subject to a reciprocal generation?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +"What, then?" said Socrates, "has life any contrary, as waking has its +contrary, sleeping?" + +"Certainly," he answered. + +"What?" + +"Death," he replied. + +"Are not these, then, produced from each other, since they are +contraries; and are not the modes by which they are produced two-fold +intervening between these two?" + +"How should it be otherwise?" + +"I then," continued Socrates, "will describe to you one pair of the +contraries which I have just now mentioned, both what it is and its mode +of production: and do you describe to me the other. I say that one is to +sleep, the other to awake; and from sleeping awaking is produced, and +from awaking sleeping, and that the modes of their production are, the +one to fall asleep, the other to be roused. 44. Have I sufficiently +explained this to you or not?" + +"Certainly." + +"Do you, then," he said, "describe to me in the same manner with respect +to life and death? Do you not say that life is contrary to death?" + +"I do." + +"And that they are produced from each other?" + +"Yes." + +"What, then, is produced from life?" + +"Death," he replied. + +"What, then," said he "is produced from death?" + +"I must needs confess," he replied, "that life is." + +"From the dead, then, O Cebes! living things and living men are +produced." + +"It appears so," he said. + +"Our souls, therefore," said Socrates, "exist in Hades." + +"So it seems." + +"With respect, then, to their mode of production, is not one of them +very clear? for to die surely is clear, is it not?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +"What, then, shall we do?" he continued; "shall we not find a +corresponding contrary mode of production, or will nature be defective +in this? Or must we discover a contrary mode of production to dying?" + +"By all means," he said. + +"What is this?" + +"To revive." + +"Therefore," he proceeded, "if there is such a thing as to revive, will +not this reviving be a mode of production from the dead to the living?" + +"Certainly." + +"Thus, then, we have agreed that the living are produced from the dead, +no less than the dead from the living; but, this being the case, there +appears to me sufficient proof that the souls of the dead must +necessarily exist somewhere, from whence they are again produced." + +45. "It appears to me, Socrates," he said "that this must necessarily +follow from what has been admitted." + +"See now, O Cebes!" he said, "that we have not agreed on these things +improperly, as it appears to me; for if one class of things were not +constantly given back in the place of another, revolving, as it were, in +a circle, but generation were direct from one thing alone into its +opposite, and did not turn round again to the other, or retrace its +course, do you know that all things would at length have the same form, +be in the same state, and cease to be produced?" + +"How say you?" he asked. + +"It is by no means difficult," he replied, "to understand what I mean; +if, for instance, there should be such a thing as falling asleep, but no +reciprocal waking again produced from a state of sleep, you know that at +length all things would show the fable of Endymion to be a jest, and it +would be thought nothing at all of, because everything else would be in +the same state as he--namely, asleep. And if all things were mingled +together, but never separated, that doctrine of Anaxagoras would soon be +verified, 'all things would be together.' 46. Likewise, my dear Cebes, +if all things that partake of life should die, and after they are dead +should remain in this state of death, and not revive again, would it not +necessarily follow that at length all things should be dead, and nothing +alive? For if living beings are produced from other things, and living +beings die, what could prevent their being all absorbed in death?" + +"Nothing whatever, I think, Socrates," replied Cebes; "but you appear to +me to speak the exact truth." + +"For, Cebes," he continued, "as it seems to me, such undoubtedly is the +case, and we have not admitted these things under a delusion, for it is +in reality true that there is a reviving again, that the living are +produced from the dead, that the souls of the dead exist, and that the +condition of the good is better, and of the evil worse." + +47. "And, indeed," said Cebes, interrupting him, "according to that +doctrine, Socrates, which you are frequently in the habit of advancing, +if it is true, that our learning is nothing else than reminiscence, +according to this it is surely necessary that we must at some former +time have learned what we now remember. But this is impossible, unless +our soul existed somewhere before it came into this human form; so that +from hence, also, the soul appears to be something immortal." + +"But, Cebes," said Simmias, interrupting him, "what proofs are there of +these things? Remind me of them, for I do not very well remember them at +present." + +48. "It is proved," said Cebes, "by one argument, and that a most +beautiful one, that men, when questioned (if one questions them +properly) of themselves, describe all things as they are, however, if +they had not innate knowledge and right reason, they would never be +able to do this. Moreover, if one leads them to diagrams, or any thing +else of the kind, it is then most clearly apparent that this is the +case." + +"But if you are not persuaded in this way, Simmias," said Socrates, "see +if you will agree with us in considering the matter thus. For do you +doubt how that which is called learning is reminiscence?" + +"I do not doubt," said Simmias; "but I require this very thing of which +we are speaking, to be reminded; and, indeed, from what Cebes has begun +to say, I almost now remember, and am persuaded; nevertheless, however, +I should like to hear now how you would attempt to prove it." + +"I do it thus" he replied: "we admit, surely, that if any one be +reminded of any thing, he must needs have known that thing at some time +or other before." + +"Certainly," he said. + +49. "Do we, then, admit this also, that when knowledge comes in a +certain manner it is reminiscence? But the manner I mean is this: if any +one, upon seeing or hearing, or perceiving through the medium of any +other sense, some particular thing, should not only know that, but also +form an idea of something else, of which the knowledge is not the same, +but different, should we not justly say that he remembered that of which +he received the idea?" + +"How mean you?" + +"For instance, the knowledge of a man is different from that of a lyre." + +"How not?" + +"Do you not know, then, that lovers when they see a lyre, or a garment, +or any thing else which their favorite is accustomed to use, are thus +affected; they both recognize the lyre, and receive in their minds the +form of the person to whom the lyre belonged? This is reminiscence: just +as any one, seeing Simmias, is often reminded of Cebes, and so in an +infinite number of similar instances." + +"An infinite number, indeed, by Jupiter!" said Simmias. + +"Is not, then," he said, "something of this sort a kind of reminiscence, +especially when one is thus affected with respect to things which, from +lapse of time, and not thinking of them, one has now forgotten?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +50. "But what?" he continued. "Does it happen that when one sees a +painted horse or a painted lyre one is reminded of a man, and that when +one sees a picture of Simmias one is reminded of Cebes?" + +"Certainly." + +"And does it not also happen that on seeing a picture of Simmias one is +reminded of Simmias himself?" + +"It does, indeed," he replied. + +"Does it not happen, then, according to all this, that reminiscence +arises partly from things like, and partly from things unlike?" + +"It does." + +"But when one is reminded by things like, is it not necessary that one +should be thus further affected, so as to perceive whether, as regards +likeness, this falls short or not of the thing of which one has been +reminded?" + +"It is necessary," he replied. + +"Consider, then," said Socrates, "if the case is thus. Do we allow that +there is such a thing as equality? I do not mean of one log with +another, nor one stone with another, nor any thing else of this kind, +but something altogether different from all these--abstract equality; do +we allow that there is any such thing, or not?" + +"By Jupiter! we most assuredly do allow it," replied Simmias. + +51. "And do we know what it is itself?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +"Whence have we derived the knowledge of it? Is it not from the things +we have just now mentioned, and that from seeing logs, or stones, or +other things of the kind, equal, we have from these formed an idea of +that which is different from these--for does it not appear to you to be +different? Consider the matter thus. Do not stones that are equal, and +logs sometimes that are the same, appear at one time equal, and at +another not?" + +"Certainly." + +"But what? Does abstract equality ever appear to you unequal? or +equality inequality?" + +"Never, Socrates, at any time." + +"These equal things, then," he said, "and abstract equality, are not the +same?" + +"By no means, Socrates, as it appears." + +"However, from these equal things," he said, "which are different from +that abstract equality, have you not formed your idea and derived your +knowledge of it?" + +"You speak most truly," he replied. + +"Is it not, therefore, from its being like or unlike them?" + +"Certainly." + +"But it makes no difference," he said. "When, therefore, on seeing one +thing, you form, from the sight of it, the notion of another, whether +like or unlike, this," he said, "must necessarily be reminiscence." + +"Certainly." + +52. "What, then, as to this?" he continued. "Are we affected in any such +way with regard to logs and the equal things we have just now spoken of? +And do they appear to us to be equal in the same manner as abstract +equality itself is, or do they fall short in some degree, or not at +all, of being such as equality itself is?" + +"They fall far short," he replied. + +"Do we admit, then, that when one, on beholding some particular thing, +perceives that it aims, as that which I now see, at being like something +else that exists, but falls short of it, and can not become such as that +is, but is inferior to it--do we admit that he who perceives this must +necessarily have had a previous knowledge of that which he says it +resembles, though imperfectly?" + +"It is necessary." + +"What, then? Are we affected in some such way, or not, with respect to +things equal and abstract equality itself?" + +"Assuredly." + +"It is necessary, therefore, that we must have known abstract equality +before the time when, on first seeing equal things, we perceived that +they all aimed at resembling equality, but failed in doing so." + +"Such is the case." + +53. "Moreover, we admit this too, that we perceived this, and could not +possibly perceive it by any other means than the sight, or touch, or +some other of the senses, for I say the same of them all." + +"For they are the same, Socrates, so far as, our argument is concerned." + +"However, we must perceive, by means of the senses, that all things +which come under the senses aim at that abstract equality, and yet fall +short of it; or how shall we say it is?" + +"Even so." + +"Before, then, we began to see, and hear, and use our other senses, we +must have had a knowledge of equality itself--what it is, if we were to +refer to it those equal things that come under the senses, and observe +that all such things aim at resembling that, but fall far short of it." + +"This necessarily follows, Socrates, from what has been already said." + +"But did we not, as soon as we were born, see and hear, and possess our +other senses?" + +"Certainly." + +"But, we have said, before we possessed these, we must have had a +knowledge of abstract equality?" + +"Yes." + +"We must have had it, then, as it seems, before we were born." + +"It seems so." + +54. "If, therefore, having this before we were born, we were born +possessing it, we knew, both before we were born and as soon as we were +born, not only the equal and the greater and smaller, but all things of +the kind; for our present discussion is not more respecting equality +than the beautiful itself, the good, the just, and the holy, and, in one +word, respecting every thing which we mark with the seal of existence, +both in the questions we ask and the answers we give. So that we must +necessarily have had a knowledge of all these before we were born." + +"Such is the case." + +"And if, having once had it, we did not constantly forget it, we should +always be born with this knowledge, and should always retain it through +life. For to know is this, when one has got a knowledge of any thing, to +retain and not lose it; for do we not call this oblivion, Simmias, the +loss of knowledge?" + +"Assuredly, Socrates," he replied. + +55. "But if, having had it before we were born, we lose it at our +birth, and afterward, through exercising the senses about these things, +we recover the knowledge which we once before possessed, would not that +which we call learning be a recovery of our own knowledge? And in saying +that this is to remember, should we not say rightly?" + +"Certainly." + +"For this appeared to be possible, for one having perceived any thing, +either by seeing or hearing, or employing any other sense, to form an +idea of something different from this, which he had forgotten, and with +which this was connected by being unlike or like. So that, as I said, +one of these two things must follow: either we are all born with this +knowledge, and we retain it through life, or those whom we say learn +afterward do nothing else than remember, and this learning will be +reminiscence." + +"Such, certainly, is the case, Socrates." + +56. "Which, then, do you choose, Simmias: that we are born with +knowledge, or that we afterward remember what we had formerly known?" + +"At present, Socrates, I am unable to choose." + +"But what? Are you able to choose in this case, and what do you think +about it? Can a man who possesses knowledge give a reason for the things +that he knows, or not?" + +"He needs must be able to do so, Socrates," he replied. + +"And do all men appear to you to be able to give a reason for the things +of which we have just now been speaking?" + +"I wish they could," said Simmias; "but I am much more afraid that at +this time to-morrow there will no longer be any one able to do this +properly." + +"Do not all men, then, Simmias," he said, "seem to you to know these +things?" + +"By no means." + +"Do they remember, then, what they once learned?" + +"Necessarily so." + +"When did our souls receive this knowledge? Not surely, since we were +born into the world." + +"Assuredly not." + +"Before, then?" + +"Yes." + +"Our souls, therefore, Simmias, existed before they were in a human +form, separate from bodies, and possessed intelligence." + +57. "Unless, Socrates, we receive this knowledge at our birth, for this +period yet remains." + +"Be it so, my friend. But at what other time do we lose it? for we are +not born with it, as we have just now admitted. Do we lose it, then, at +the very time in which we receive it? Or can you mention any other +time?" + +"By no means, Socrates; I was not aware that I was saying nothing to the +purpose." + +"Does the case then stand thus with us, Simmias?" he proceeded: "If +those things which we are continually talking about really exist, the +beautiful, the good, and every such essence, and to this we refer all +things that come under the senses, as finding it to have a prior +existence, and to be our own, and if we compare these things to it, it +necessarily follows, that as these exist, so likewise our soul exists +even before we are born; but if these do not exist, this discussion will +have been undertaken in vain, is it not so? And is there not an equal +necessity both that these things should exist, and our souls also, +before we are born; and if not the former, neither the latter?" + +58. "Most assuredly, Socrates," said Simmias, "there appears to me to be +the same necessity; and the argument admirably tends to prove that our +souls exist before we are born, just as that essence does which you have +now mentioned. For I hold nothing so clear to me as this, that all such +things most certainly exist, as the beautiful, the good, and all the +rest that you just now spoke of; and, so far as I am concerned, the case +is sufficiently demonstrated." + +"But how does it appear to Cebes?" said Socrates; "for it is necessary +to persuade Cebes too." + +"He is sufficiently persuaded, I think," said Simmias, "although he is +the most pertinacious of men in distrusting arguments. Yet I think he is +sufficiently persuaded of this, that our soul existed before we were +born. But whether, when we are dead, it will still exist does not appear +to me to have been demonstrated, Socrates," he continued; "but that +popular doubt, which Cebes just now mentioned, still stands in our way, +whether, when a man dies, the soul is not dispersed, and this is the end +of its existence. 59. For what hinders it being born, and formed from +some other source, and existing before it came into a human body, and +yet, when it has come, and is separated from this body, its then also +dying itself, and being destroyed?" + +"You say well, Simmias," said Cebes; "for it appears that only one half +of what is necessary has been demonstrated--namely, that our soul +existed before we were born; but it is necessary to demonstrate further, +that when we are dead it will exist no less than before we were born, if +the demonstration is to be made complete." + +"This has been even now demonstrated, Simmias and Cebes," said Socrates, +"if you will only connect this last argument with that which we before +assented to, that every thing living is produced from that which is +dead. For if the soul exists before, and it is necessary for it when it +enters into life, and is born, to be produced from nothing else than +death, and from being dead, how is it not necessary for it also to +exist after death, since it must needs be produced again? 60. What you +require, then, has been already demonstrated. However, both you and +Simmias appear to me as if you wished to sift this argument more +thoroughly, and to be afraid, like children, lest, on the soul's +departure from the body, the winds should blow it away and disperse it, +especially if one should happen to die, not in a calm, but in a violent +storm." + +Upon this Cebes, smiling, said, "Endeavor to teach us better, Socrates, +as if we were afraid, or rather not as if we were afraid, though perhaps +there is some boy[30] within us who has such a dread. Let us, then, +endeavor to persuade him not to be afraid of death, as of hobgoblins." + +"But you must charm him every day," said Socrates, "until you have +quieted his fears." + +"But whence, Socrates," he said, "can we procure a skillful charmer for +such a case, now that you are about to leave us?" + +61. "Greece is wide, Cebes," he replied, "and in it surely there are +skillful men. There are also many barbarous nations, all of which you +should search through, seeking such a charmer, sparing neither money nor +toil, as there is nothing on which you can more seasonably spend your +money. You should also seek for him among yourselves; for perhaps you +could not easily find any more competent than yourselves to do this." + +"This shall be done," said Cebes; "but, if it is agreeable to you, let +us return to the point from whence we digressed." + +"It will be agreeable to me, for how should it not?" + +"You say well," rejoined Cebes. + +"We ought, then," said Socrates, "to ask ourselves some such question +as this: to what kind of thing it appertains to be thus +affected--namely, to be dispersed--and for what we ought to fear, lest +it should be so affected, and for what not. And after this we should +consider which of the two the soul is, and in the result should either +be confident or fearful for our soul." + +"You speak truly," said he. + +62. "Does it not, then, appertain to that which is formed by +composition, and is naturally compounded, to be thus affected, to be +dissolved in the same manner as that in which it was compounded; and if +there is any thing not compounded, does it not appertain to this alone, +if to any thing, not to be thus affected?" + +"It appears to me to be so," said Cebes. + +"Is it not most probable, then, that things which are always the same, +and in the same state, are uncompounded, but that things which are +constantly changing, and are never in the same state, are compounded?" + +"To me it appears so." + +"Let us return, then," he said, "to the subjects on which we before +discoursed. Whether is essence itself, of which we gave this account +that it exists, both in our questions and answers, always the same, or +does it sometimes change? Does equality itself, the beautiful itself, +and each several thing which is, ever undergo any change, however small? +Or does each of them which exists, being an unmixed essence by itself, +continue always the same, and in the same state, and never undergo any +variation at all under any circumstances?" + +"They must of necessity continue the same and in the same state, +Socrates," said Cebes. + +63. "But what shall we say of the many beautiful things, such as men, +horses, garments, or other things of the kind, whether equal or +beautiful, or of all things synonymous with them? Do they continue the +same, or, quite contrary to the former, are they never at any time, so +to say, the same, either with respect to themselves or one another?" + +"These, on the other hand," replied Cebes, "never continue the same." + +"These, then, you can touch, or see, or perceive by the other senses; +but those that continue the same, you can not apprehend in any other way +than by the exercise of thought; for such things are invisible, and are +not seen?" + +"You say what is strictly true," replied Cebes. + +64. "We may assume, then, if you please," he continued, "that there are +two species of things; the one visible, the other invisible?" + +"We may," he said. + +"And the invisible always continuing the same, but the visible never the +same?" + +"This, too," he said, "we may assume." + +"Come, then," he asked, "is there anything else belonging to us than, on +the one hand, body, and, on the other, soul?" + +"Nothing else," he replied. + +"To which species, then, shall we say the body is more like, and more +nearly allied?" + +"It is clear to everyone," he said, "that it is to the visible." + +"But what of the soul? Is it visible or invisible?" + +"It is not visible to men, Socrates," he replied. + +"But we speak of things which are visible, or not so, to the nature of +men; or to some other nature, think you?" + +"To that of men." + +"What, then, shall we say of the soul--that it is visible, or not +visible?" + +"Not visible." + +"Is it, then, invisible?" + +"Yes." + +"The soul, then, is more like the invisible than the body; and the body, +the visible?" + +"It must needs be so, Socrates." + +65. "And did we not, some time since, say this too, that the soul, when +it employs the body to examine any thing, either by means of the sight +or hearing, or any other sense (for to examine any thing by means of the +body is to do so by the senses), is then drawn by the body to things +that never continue the same, and wanders and is confused, and reels as +if intoxicated, through coming into contact with things of this kind?" + +"Certainly." + +"But when it examines anything by itself, does it approach that which is +pure, eternal, immortal, and unchangeable, and, as being allied to it, +continue constantly with it, so long as it subsists by itself, and has +the power, and does it cease from its wandering, and constantly continue +the same with respect to those things, through coming into contact with +things of this kind? And is this affection of the soul called wisdom?" + +"You speak," he said, "in every respect, well and truly, Socrates." + +"To which species of the two, then, both from what was before and now +said, does the soul appear to you to be more like and more nearly +allied?" + +66. "Every one, I think, would allow, Socrates," he replied, "even the +dullest person, from this method of reasoning, that the soul is in every +respect more like that which continues constantly the same than that +which does not so." + +"But what as to the body?" + +"It is more like the other." + +"Consider it also thus, that, when soul and body are together, nature +enjoins the latter to be subservient and obey, the former to rule and +exercise dominion. And, in this way, which of the two appears to you to +be like the divine, and which the mortal? Does it not appear to you to +be natural that the divine should rule and command, but the mortal obey +and be subservient?" + +"To me it does so." + +"Which, then, does the soul resemble?" + +"It is clear, Socrates, that the soul resembles the divine; but the +body, the mortal." + +"Consider, then, Cebes," said he, "whether, from all that has been said, +these conclusions follow, that the soul is most like that which is +divine, immortal, intelligent, uniform, indissoluble, and which always +continues in the same state; but that the body, on the other hand, is +most like that which is human, mortal, unintelligent, multiform, +dissoluble, and which never continues in the same state. Can we say any +thing against this, my dear Cebes, to show that it is not so?" + +"We can not." + +67. "What, then? Since these things are so, does it not appertain to the +body to be quickly dissolved, but to the soul, on the contrary, to be +altogether indissoluble or nearly so?" + +"How not?" + +"You perceive, however," he said, "that when a man dies, the visible +part of him, the body, which is exposed to sight, and which we call a +corpse, to which it appertains to be dissolved, to fall asunder and be +dispersed, does not immediately undergo any of these affections, but +remains for a considerable time, and especially so if any one should die +with his body in full vigor, and at a corresponding age;[31] for when +the body has collapsed and been embalmed, as those that are embalmed in +Egypt, it remains almost entire for an incredible length of time; and +some parts of the body, even though it does decay, such as the bones and +nerves, and every thing of that kind, are, nevertheless, as one may say, +immortal. Is it not so?" + +"Yes." + +68. "Can the soul, then, which is invisible, and which goes to another +place like itself, excellent, pure and invisible, and therefore truly +called the invisible world,[32] to the presence of a good and wise God +(whither, if God will, my soul also must shortly go)--can this soul of +ours, I ask, being such and of such a nature, when separated from the +body, be immediately dispersed and destroyed, as most men assert? Far +from it, my dear Cebes and Simmias. But the case is much rather thus: if +it is separated in a pure state, taking nothing of the body with it, as +not having willingly communicated with it in the present life, but +having shunned it, and gathered itself within itself, as constantly +studying this (but this is nothing else than to pursue philosophy +aright, and in reality to study how to die easily), would not this be to +study how to die?" + +"Most assuredly." + +"Does not the soul, then, when in this state, depart to that which +resembles itself, the invisible, the divine, immortal and wise? And on +its arrival there, is it not its lot to be happy, free from error, +ignorance, fears, wild passions, and all the other evils to which human +nature is subject; and, as is said of the initiated, does it not in +truth pass the rest of its time with the gods? Must we affirm that it is +so, Cebes, or otherwise?" + +"So, by Jupiter!" said Cebes. + +69. "But, I think, if it departs from the body polluted and impure, as +having constantly held communion with the body, and having served and +loved it, and been bewitched by it, through desires and pleasures, so as +to think that there is nothing real except what is corporeal, which one +can touch and see, and drink and eat, and employ for sensual purposes; +but what is dark and invisible to the eyes, which is intellectual and +apprehended by philosophy, having been accustomed to hate, fear, and +shun this, do you think that a soul thus affected can depart from the +body by itself, and uncontaminated?" + +"By no means whatever," he replied. + +"But I think it will be impressed with that which is corporeal, which +the intercourse and communion of the body, through constant association +and great attention, have made natural to it." + +"Certainly." + +"We must think, my dear Cebes, that this is ponderous and heavy, earthly +and visible, by possessing which such a soul is weighed down, and drawn +again into the visible world through dread of the invisible and of +Hades, wandering, as it is said, among monuments and tombs, about which, +indeed, certain shadowy phantoms of souls have been seen, being such +images as those souls produced which have not departed pure from the +body, but which partake of the visible; on which account, also, they are +visible." + +"That is probable, Socrates." + +70. "Probable indeed, Cebes; and not that these are the souls of the +good, but of the wicked, which are compelled to wander about such +places, paying the penalty of their former conduct, which was evil; and +they wander about so long until, through the desire of the corporeal +nature that accompanies them, they are again united to a body; and they +are united, as is probable, to animals having the same habits as those +they have given themselves up to during life." + +"But what do you say these are, Socrates?" + +"For instance, those who have given themselves up to gluttony, +wantonness and drinking, and have put no restraint on themselves, will +probably be clothed in the form of asses and brutes of that kind. Do you +not think so?" + +"You say what is very probable." + +"And that such as have set great value on injustice, tyranny and rapine, +will be clothed in the species of wolves, hawks and kites! Where else +can we say such souls go?" + +"Without doubt," said Cebes, "into such as these." + +"Is it not, then, evident," he continued, "as to the rest, whither each +will go, according to the resemblances of their several pursuits?" + +71. "It is evident," he replied. "How not?" + +"Of these, then," he said, "are not they the most happy, and do they not +go to the best place, who have practiced that social and civilized +virtue which they call temperance and justice, and which is produced +from habit and exercise, without philosophy and reflection?" + +"In what respect are these the most happy?" + +"Because it is probable that these should again migrate into a +corresponding civilized and peaceable kind of animals, such as bees +perhaps, or wasps, or ants, or even into the same human species again, +and from these become moderate men." + +"It is probable." + +"But it is not lawful for any one who has not studied philosophy, and +departed this life perfectly pure, to pass into the rank of gods, but +only for the true lover of wisdom. And on this account, my friends +Simmias and Cebes, those who philosophize rightly, abstain from all +bodily desires, and persevere in doing so, and do not give themselves up +to them, not fearing the loss of property and poverty, as the generality +of men and the lovers of wealth; nor, again, dreading disgrace and +ignominy, like those who are lovers of power and honor, do they then +abstain from them." + +"For it would not become them to do so, Socrates," says Cebes. + +72. "It would not, by Jupiter!" he rejoined. "Wherefore, Cebes, they who +care at all for their soul, and do not spend their lives in the culture +of their bodies, despising all these, proceed not in the same way with +them, as being ignorant whither they are going, but, being convinced +that they ought not to act contrary to philosophy, but in accordance +with the freedom and purification she affords, they give themselves up +to her direction, following her wherever she leads." + +"How, Socrates?" + +"I will tell you," he replied. "The lovers of wisdom know that +philosophy, receiving their soul plainly bound and glued to the body, +and compelled to view things through this, as through a prison, and not +directly by herself, and sunk in utter ignorance, and perceiving, too, +the strength of the prison, that it arises from desire, so that he who +is bound as much as possible assists in binding himself. 73. I say, +then, the lovers of wisdom know that philosophy, receiving their soul in +this state, gently exhorts it, and endeavors to free it, by showing that +the view of things by means of the eyes is full of deception, as also is +that through the ears and the other senses; persuading an abandonment +of these so far as it is not absolutely necessary to use them, and +advising the soul to be collected and concentrated within itself, and to +believe nothing else than herself, with respect to what she herself +understands of things that have a real subsistence; and to consider +nothing true which she views through the medium of others, and which +differ under different aspects;[32] for that a thing of this kind is +sensible and visible, but that what she herself perceives is +intelligible and invisible. The soul of the true philosopher, therefore, +thinking that she ought not to oppose this deliverance, accordingly +abstains as much as possible from pleasures and desires, griefs and +fears, considering that when any one is exceedingly delighted or +alarmed, grieved or influenced by desire, he does not merely suffer such +evil from these things as one might suppose, such as either being sick +or wasting his property through indulging his desires; but that which is +the greatest evil, and the worst of all, this he suffers, and is not +conscious of it." + +"But what is this evil, Socrates?" said Cebes. + +74. "That the soul of every man is compelled to be either vehemently +delighted or grieved about some particular thing, and, at the same time, +to consider that the thing about which it is thus strongly affected is +most real and most true, though it is not so. But these are chiefly +visible objects, are they not?" + +"Certainly." + +"In this state of affection, then, is not the soul especially shackled +by the body?" + +"How so?" + +"Because each pleasure and pain, having a nail, as it were, nails the +soul to the body, and fastens it to it, and causes it to become +corporeal, deeming those things to be true whatever the body asserts to +be so. For, in consequence of its forming the same opinions with the +body, and delighting in the same things, it is compelled, I think, to +possess similar manners, and to be similarly nourished; so that it can +never pass into Hades in a pure state, but must ever depart polluted by +the body, and so quickly falls again into another body, and grows up as +if it were sown, and consequently is deprived of all association with +that which is divine, and pure, and uniform." + +"You speak most truly, Socrates," said Cebes. + +75. "For these reasons, therefore, Cebes, those who are truly lovers of +wisdom are moderate and resolute, and not for the reasons that most +people say. Do you think as they do?" + +"Assuredly not." + +"No, truly. But the soul of a philosopher would reason thus, and would +not think that philosophy ought to set it free, and that when it is +freed it should give itself up again to pleasures and pains, to bind it +down again, and make her work void, weaving a kind of Penelope's web the +reverse way. On the contrary, effecting a calm of the passions, and +following the guidance of reason, and being always intent on this, +contemplating that which is true and divine, and not subject to opinion; +and being nourished by it, it thinks that it ought to live in this +manner as long as it does live, and that when it dies it shall go to a +kindred essence, and one like itself, and shall be free from human +evils. From such a regimen as this the soul has no occasion to fear, +Simmias and Cebes, while it strictly attends to these things, lest, +being torn to pieces at its departure from the body, it should be blown +about and dissipated by the winds, and no longer have an existence +anywhere." + +76. When Socrates had thus spoken, a long silence ensued; and Socrates +himself was pondering upon what had been said, as he appeared, and so +did most of us; but Cebes and Simmias were conversing a little while +with each other. At length Socrates, perceiving them, said, "What think +you of what has been said? Does it appear to you to have been proved +sufficiently? for many doubts and objections still remain if any one +will examine them thoroughly. If, then, you are considering some other +subject, I have nothing to say; but if you are doubting about this, do +not hesitate both yourselves to speak and express your opinion, if it +appears to you in any respect that it might have been argued better, and +to call me in again to your assistance, if you think you can be at all +benefited by my help." + +Upon this Simmias said, "Indeed, Socrates, I will tell you the truth: +for some time each of us, being in doubt, has been urging and exhorting +the other to question you, from a desire to hear our doubts solved; but +we were afraid of giving you trouble, lest it should be disagreeable to +you in your present circumstances." + +77. But he, upon hearing this, gently smiled, and said, "Bless me, +Simmias; with difficulty, indeed, could I persuade other men that I do +not consider my present condition a calamity, since I am not able to +persuade even you; but you are afraid lest I should be more morose now +than during the former part of my life. And, as it seems, I appear to +you to be inferior to swans with respect to divination, who, when they +perceive that they must needs die, though they have been used to sing +before, sing then more than ever, rejoicing that they are about to +depart to that deity whose servants they are. But men, through their +own fear of death, belie the swans too, and say that they, lamenting +their death, sing their last song through grief; and they do not +consider that no bird sings when it is hungry or cold, or is afflicted +with any other pain, not even the nightingale, or swallow, or the +hoopoes, which, they say, sing lamenting through grief. But neither do +these birds appear to me to sing through sorrow, nor yet do swans; but, +in my opinion, belonging to Apollo, they are prophetic, and, foreseeing +the blessings of Hades, they sing and rejoice on that day more +excellently than at any preceding time. 78. But I, too, consider myself +to be a fellow-servant of the swans, and sacred to the same god; and +that I have received the power of divination from our common master no +less than they, and that I do not depart from this life with less +spirits than they. On this account, therefore, it is right that you +should both speak and ask whatever you please, so long as the Athenian +Eleven permit." + +"You say well," said Simmias, "and both I will tell you what are my +doubts, and he, in turn, how far he does not assent to what has been +said. For it appears to me, Socrates, probably as it does to you with +respect to these matters, that to know them clearly in the present life +is either impossible or very difficult: on the other hand, however, not +to test what has been said of them in every possible way, so as not to +desist until, on examining them in every point of view, one has +exhausted every effort, is the part of a very weak man. For we ought, +with respect to these things, either to learn from others how they stand +or to discover them for one's self; or, if both these are impossible, +then, taking the best of human reasonings and that which is the most +difficult to be confuted, and embarking on this, as one who risks +himself on a raft, so to sail through life, unless one could be carried +more safely, and with less risk, on a surer conveyance, or some divine +reason. 79. I, therefore, shall not now be ashamed to question you, +since you bid me do so, nor shall I blame myself hereafter for not +having now told you what I think; for to me, Socrates, when I consider +the matter, both with myself and with Cebes, what has been said does not +appear to have been sufficiently proved." + +Then said Socrates, "Perhaps, my friend, you have the truth on your +side; but tell me in what respect it was not sufficiently proved." + +"In this," he answered, "because any one might use the same argument +with respect to harmony, and a lyre, and its chords, that harmony is +something invisible and incorporeal, very beautiful and divine, in a +well-modulated lyre; but the lyre and its chords are bodies, and of +corporeal form, compounded and earthly, and akin to that which is +mortal. When any one, then, has either broken the lyre, or cut or burst +the chords, he might maintain from the same reasoning as yours that it +is necessary the harmony should still exist and not be destroyed; for +there could be no possibility that the lyre should subsist any longer +when the chords are burst; and that the chords, which are of a mortal +nature, should subsist, but that the harmony, which is of the same +nature and akin to that which is divine and immortal, should become +extinct, and perish before that which is mortal; but he might say that +the harmony must needs subsist somewhere, and that the wood and chords +must decay before it can undergo any change. 80. For I think, Socrates, +that you yourself have arrived at this conclusion, that we consider the +soul to be pretty much of this kind--namely, that our body being +compacted and held together by heat and cold, dryness and moisture, and +other such qualities, our soul is the fusion and harmony of these, when +they are well and duly combined with each other. If, then, the soul is a +kind of harmony, it is evident that when our bodies are unduly relaxed +or strained, through diseases and other maladies, the soul must, of +necessity, immediately perish, although it is most divine, just as other +harmonies which subsist in sounds or in the various works of artisans; +but that the remains of the body of each person last for a long time, +till they are either burned or decayed. Consider, then, what we shall +say to this reasoning, if any one should maintain that the soul, being a +fusion of the several qualities in the body, perishes first in that +which is called death." + +81. Socrates, therefore, looking steadfastly at us, as he was generally +accustomed to do, and smiling, said, "Simmias indeed speaks justly. If, +then, any one of you is more prompt than I am, why does he not answer, +for he seems to have handled my argument not badly? It appears to me, +however, that before we make our reply we should first hear from Cebes, +what he, too, objects to our argument, in order that, some time +intervening, we may consider what we shall say, and then when we have +heard them, we may give up to them, if they appear to speak agreeably to +truth; or, if not, we may then uphold our own argument. Come, then, +Cebes," he continued, "say what it is that disturbs you, so as to cause +your unbelief." + +"I will tell you," said Cebes; "the argument seems to me to rest where +it was, and to be liable to the same objection that we mentioned before. +For, that our soul existed even before It came into this present form, I +do not deny has been very elegantly, and, if it is not too much to say +so, very fully, demonstrated; but that it still exists anywhere when we +are dead does not appear to me to have been clearly proved; nor do I +give in to the objection of Simmias, that the soul is not stronger and +more durable than the body, for it appears to me to excel very far all +things of this kind. 82. 'Why, then,' reason might say, 'do you still +disbelieve? for, since you see that when a man dies his weaker part +still exists, does it not appear to you to be necessary that the more +durable part should still be preserved during this period?' Consider, +then, whether I say any thing to the purpose in reply to this. For I, +too, as well as Simmias, as it seems, stand in need of an illustration; +for the argument appears to me to have been put thus, as if any one +should advance this argument about an aged weaver who had died, that the +man has not yet perished, but perhaps still exists somewhere; and, as a +proof, should exhibit the garment which he wore and had woven himself, +that it is entire and has not perished; and if any one should disbelieve +him, he would ask, which of the two is the more durable, the species of +a man or of a garment, that is constantly in use and being worn; then, +should any one answer that the species of man is much more durable, he +would think it demonstrated that, beyond all question, the man is +preserved, since that which is less durable has not perished. 83. But I +do not think, Simmias, that this is the case, and do you consider what I +say, for every one must think that he who argues thus argues, foolishly. +For this weaver, having worn and woven many such garments, perished +after almost all of them, but before the last, I suppose; and yet it +does not on this account follow any the more that a man is inferior to +or weaker than a garment. And I think, the soul might admit this same +illustration with respect to the body, and he who should say the same +things concerning them would appear to me to speak correctly, that the +soul is more durable, but the body weaker and less durable; for he would +say that each soul wears out many bodies, especially if it lives many +years; for if the body wastes and is dissolved while the man still +lives, but the soul continually weaves anew what is worn out, it must +necessarily follow that when the soul is dissolved it must then have on +its last garment, and perish before this alone; but when the soul has +perished the body would show the weakness of its nature, and quickly rot +and vanish. 84. So that it is not by any means right to place implicit +reliance on this argument, and to believe that when we die our soul +still exists somewhere. For, if any one should concede to him who admits +even more than you do, and should grant to him that not only did our +soul exist before we were born, but that even when we die nothing +hinders the souls of some of us from still existing, and continuing to +exist hereafter, and from being often born, and dying again--for so +strong is it by nature, that it can hold out against repeated births--if +he granted this, he would not yet concede that it does not exhaust +itself in its many births, and at length perish altogether in some one +of the deaths. But he would say that no one knows this death and +dissolution of the body, which brings destruction to the soul; for it is +impossible for any one of us to perceive it. If, however, this be the +case, it follows that every one who is confident at the approach of +death is foolishly confident, unless he is able to prove that the soul +is absolutely immortal and imperishable; otherwise it necessarily +follows that he who is about to die must be alarmed for his soul, lest +in its present disunion from the body it should entirely perish." + +85. Upon this, all of us who had heard them speaking were disagreeably +affected, as we afterward mentioned to each other; because, after we had +been fully persuaded by the former arguments, they seemed to disturb us +anew, and to cast us into a distrust, not only of the arguments already +adduced, but of such as might afterward be urged, for fear lest we +should not be fit judges of anything, or lest the things themselves +should be incredible. + +_Echec._ By the gods! Phaedo, I can readily excuse you; for, while I am +now hearing you, it occurs to me to ask myself some such question as +this: What arguments can we any longer believe? since the argument which +Socrates advanced, and which was exceedingly credible, has now fallen +into discredit. For this argument, that our soul is a kind of harmony, +produces a wonderful impression on me, both now and always, and in being +mentioned, it has reminded me, as it were, that I, too, was formerly of +the same opinion; so that I stand in need again, as if from the very +beginning, of some other argument which may persuade me that the soul of +one who dies does not die with the body. Tell me, therefore, by Jupiter! +how Socrates followed up the argument; and whether he, too, as you +confess was the case with yourselves, seemed disconcerted at all, or +not, but calmly maintained his position; and maintained it sufficiently +or defectively. Relate everything to me as accurately as you can. + +86. _Phaed._ Indeed, Echecrates, though I have often admired Socrates, I +was never more delighted than at being with him on that occasion. That +he should be able to say something is perhaps not at all surprising; but +I especially admired this in him--first of all, that he listened to the +argument of the young men so sweetly, affably, and approvingly; in the +next place, that he so quickly perceived how we were affected by their +arguments; and, lastly, that he cured us so well and recalled us, when +we were put to flight, as it were, and vanquished, and encouraged us to +accompany him, and consider the argument with him. + +_Echec._ How was that? + +_Phaed._ I will tell you: I happened to be sitting at his right hand, +near the bed, upon a low seat, but he himself sat much higher than I. +Stroking my head, then, and laying hold of the hair that hung on my +neck--for he used, often, to play with my hairs--"To-morrow," he said, +"perhaps, Phaedo, you will cut off these beautiful locks?" + +"It seems likely, Socrates," said I. + +87. "Not if you are persuaded by me." + +"Why so?" I asked. + +"To-day," he replied, "both I ought to cut off mine and you yours, if +our argument must die, and we are unable to revive it. And I, if I were +you, and the arguments were to escape me, would take an oath, as the +Argives do, not to suffer my hair to grow until I had renewed the +contest, and vanquished the arguments of Simmias and Cebes." + +"But," I said, "even Hercules himself is said not to have been a match +for two." + +"Call upon me, then," he said, "as your Iolaus, while it is yet day." + +"I do call on you, then," I said, "not as Hercules upon Iolaus, but as +Iolaus upon Hercules." + +"It will make no difference," he replied. "But, first of all, we must +beware lest we meet with some mischance." + +"What?" I asked. + +"That we do not become," he answered, "haters of reasoning, as some +become haters of men; for no greater evil can happen to any one than to +hate reasoning. 88. But hatred of reasoning and hatred of mankind both +spring from the same source. For hatred of mankind is produced in us +from having placed too great reliance on some one without sufficient +knowledge of him, and from having considered him to be a man altogether +true, sincere, and faithful, and then, after a little while, finding him +depraved and unfaithful, and after him another. And when a man has +often experienced this, and especially from those whom he considered his +most intimate and best friends, at length, having frequently stumbled, +he hates all men, and thinks that there is no soundness at all in any of +them. Have you not perceived that this happens so?" + +"Certainly," I replied. + +"Is it not a shame?" he said "And is it not evident that such a one +attempts to deal with men without sufficient knowledge of human affairs? +For if he had dealt with them with competent knowledge, as the case +really is, so he would have considered that the good and the bad are +each very few in number, and that those between both are most numerous." + +89. "How say you?" I asked. + +"In the same manner," he replied, "as with things very little and very +large Do you think that any thing is more rare than to find a very large +on a very little man, or dog, or any thing else? and, again, swift or +slow, beautiful or ugly, white or black? Do you not perceive that of all +such things the extremes are rare and few, but that the intermediate are +abundant and numerous?" + +"Certainly," I replied. + +"Do you not think, then," he continued, "that if a contest in wickedness +were proposed, even here very few would be found pre-eminent?" + +"It is probable," I said. + +"It is so," he said, "but in this respect reasonings do not resemble +men, for I was just now following you as my leader, but in this they do +resemble them, when any one believes in any argument as true without +being skilled in the art of reasoning, and then shortly afterward it +appears to him to be false, at one time being so and at another time +not, and so on with one after another,[34] and especially they who +devote themselves to controversial arguments, you are aware, at length +think they have become very wise and have alone discovered that there is +nothing sound and stable either in things or reasonings but that all +things that exist, as is the case with the Euripus, are in a constant +state of flux and reflux, and never continue in any one condition for +any length of time." + +"You speak perfectly true," I said. + +90. "Would it not, then, Phaedo" he said "be a sad thing if, when there +is a true and sound reasoning, and such as one can understand, one +should then, through lighting upon such arguments as appear to be at one +time true and at another false, not blame one's self and one's own want +of skill, but at length, through grief, should anxiously transfer the +blame from one's self to the arguments, and thereupon pass the rest of +one's life in hating and reviling arguments and so be depraved of the +truth and knowledge of things that exist?" + +"By Jupiter!" I said, "it would be sad, indeed." + +"In the first place, then," he said, "let us beware of this, and let us +not admit into our souls the notion that there appears to be nothing +sound in reasoning, but much rather that we are not yet in a sound +condition, and that we ought vigorously and strenuously to endeavor to +become sound, you and the others, on account of your whole future life, +but I, on account of my death, since I am in danger, at the present +time, of not behaving as becomes a philosopher with respect to this very +subject, but as a wrangler, like those who are utterly uninformed 91. +For they, when they dispute about any thing, care nothing at all for the +subject about which the discussion is, but are anxious about this, that +what they have themselves advanced shall appear true to the persons +present. And I seem to myself on the present occasion to differ from +them only in this respect, for I shall not be anxious to make what I say +appear true to those who are present, except that may happen by the way, +but that it may appear certainly to be so to myself. For I thus reason, +my dear friend, and observe how interestedly. If what I say be true, it +is well to be persuaded of it, but if nothing remains to one that is +dead, I shall, at least, during the interval before death be less +disagreeable to those present by my lamentations. But this ignorance of +mine will not continue long, for that would be bad, but will shortly be +put an end to. Thus prepared, then, Simmias and Cebes," he continued, "I +now proceed to my argument. Do you, however, if you will be persuaded by +me, pay little attention to Socrates, but much more to the truth, and if +I appear to you to say any thing true, assent to it, but if not, oppose +me with all your might, taking good care that in my zeal I do not +deceive both myself and you, and, like a bee, depart leaving my sting +behind." + +92. "But let us proceed," he said "First of all, remind me of what you +said, if I should appear to have forgotten it For Simmias, as I think, +is in doubt, and fears lest the soul, though more divine and beautiful +than the body, should perish before it, as being a species of harmony. +But Cebes appeared to me to grant me this, that the soul is more durable +than the body, but he argued that it is uncertain to every one, whether +when the soul has worn out many bodies and that repeatedly, it does +not, on leaving the last body, itself also perish, so that this very +thing is death, the destruction of the soul, since the body never ceases +decaying Are not these the things, Simmias and Cebes, which we have to +inquire into?" + +They both agreed that they were. + +"Whether, then," he continued "do you reject all our former arguments, +or some of them only, and not others?" + +"Some we do," they replied, "and others not." + +"What, then," he proceeded, "do you say about that argument in which we +asserted that knowledge is reminiscence, and that, this being the case, +our soul must necessarily have existed somewhere before it was inclosed +in the body?" + +93. "I, indeed," replied Cebes "was both then wonderfully persuaded by +it, and now persist in it, as in no other argument." + +"And I, too," said Simmias, "am of the same mind, and should very much +wonder if I should ever think otherwise on that point." + +"Then," Socrates said, "you must needs think otherwise, my Theban +friend, if this opinion holds good, that harmony is something +compounded, and that the soul is a kind of harmony that results from the +parts compacted together in the body. For surely you will not allow +yourself to say that harmony was composed prior to the things from which +it required to be composed Would you allow this?" + +"By no means, Socrates" he replied. + +"Do you perceive, then," he said, "that this result from what you say, +when you assert that the soul existed before it came into a human form +and body, but that it was composed from things that did not yet exist? +For harmony is not such as that to which you compare it, but first the +lyre, and the chords, and the sounds yet unharmonized, exist, and, last +of all, harmony is produced, and first perishes. How, then, will this +argument accord with that?" + +"Not at all," said Simmias. + +94. "And yet," he said, "if in any argument, there ought to be an +accordance in one respecting harmony." + +"There ought," said Simmias. + +"This of yours, however," he said, "is not in accordance. Consider, +then, which of these two statements do you prefer--that knowledge is +reminiscence, or the soul harmony?" + +"The former by far, Socrates," he replied; "for the latter occurred to +me without demonstration, through a certain probability and speciousness +whence most men derive their opinions. But I am well aware that +arguments which draw their demonstrations from probabilities are idle; +and, unless one is on one's guard against them, they are very deceptive, +both in geometry and all other subjects. But the argument respecting +reminiscence and knowledge may be said to have been demonstrated by a +satisfactory hypothesis. For in this way it was said that our soul +existed before it came into the body, because the essence that bears the +appellation of 'that which is' belongs to it. But of this, as I persuade +myself, I am fully and rightly convinced. It is therefore necessary, as +it seems, that I should neither allow myself nor any one else to +maintain that the soul is harmony." + +95. "But what, Simmias," said he, "if you consider it thus? Does it +appear to you to appertain to harmony, or to any other composition, to +subsist in any other way than the very things do of which it is +composed?" + +"By no means." + +"And indeed, as I think, neither to do any thing, nor suffer any thing +else, besides what they do or suffer." + +He agreed. + +"It does not, therefore, appertain to harmony to take the lead of the +things of which it is composed, but to follow them." + +He assented. + +"It is, then, far from being the case that harmony is moved or sends +forth sounds contrariwise, or is in any other respect opposed to its +parts?" + +"Far, indeed," he said. + +"What, then? Is not every harmony naturally harmony, so far as it has +been made to accord?" + +"I do not understand you," he replied. + +"Whether," he said, "if it should be in a greater degree and more fully +made to accord, supposing that were possible, would the harmony be +greater and more full; but if in a less degree and less fully, then +would it be inferior and less full?" + +"Certainly." + +"Is this, then, the case with the soul that, even in the smallest +extent, one soul is more fully and in a greater degree, or less fully +and in a less degree, this very thing, a soul, than another?" + +"In no respect whatever," he replied. + +96. "Well, then," he said, "by Jupiter! is one soul said to possess +intelligence and virtue, and to be good, and another folly and vice, and +to be bad? and is this said with truth?" + +"With truth, certainly." + +"Of those, then, who maintain that the soul is harmony, what will any +one say that these things are in the soul, virtue and vice? Will he call +them another kind of harmony and discord, and say that the one, the good +soul, is harmonized, and, being harmony, contains within itself another +harmony, but that the other is discordant, and does not contain within +itself another harmony?" + +"I am unable to say," replied Simmias; "but it is clear that he who +maintains that opinion would say something of the kind." + +"But it has been already granted," said he, "that one soul is not more +or less a soul than another; and this is an admission that one harmony +is not to a greater degree or more fully, or to a less degree or less +fully, a harmony, than another; is it not so?" + +"Certainly." + +"And that that which is neither more or less harmony is neither more nor +less harmonized: is it so?" + +"It is." + +"But does that which is neither more or less harmonized partake of more +or less harmony, or an equal amount?" + +"An equal amount." + +97. "A soul, therefore, since it is not more or less this very thing, a +soul, than another, is not more or less harmonized?" + +"Even so." + +"Such, then, being its condition, it can not partake of a greater degree +of discord or harmony?" + +"Certainly not." + +"And, again, such being its condition, can one soul partake of a greater +degree of vice or virtue than another, if vice be discord, and virtue +harmony?" + +"It can not." + +"Or rather, surely, Simmias, according to right reason, no soul will +partake of vice, if it is harmony; for doubtless harmony, which is +perfectly such, can never partake of discord?" + +"Certainly not." + +"Neither, therefore, can a soul which is perfectly a soul partake of +vice." + +"How can it, from what has been already said?" + +"From this reasoning, then, all souls of all animals will be equally +good, if, at least, they are by nature equally this very thing, souls?" + +"It appears so to me, Socrates," he said. + +"And does it appear to you," he said, "to have been thus rightly argued, +and that the argument would lead to this result, if the hypothesis were +correct, that the soul is harmony?" + +98. "On no account whatever," he replied. + +"But what," said he, "of all the things that are in man? Is there any +thing else that you say bears rule except the soul, especially if it be +wise?" + +"I should say not." + +"Whether by yielding to the passions in the body, or by opposing them? +My meaning is this: for instance, when heat and thirst are present, by +drawing it the contrary way, so as to hinder it from drinking; and when +hunger is present, by hindering it from eating; and in ten thousand +other instances we see the soul opposing the desires of the body. Do we +not?" + +"Certainly." + +"But have we not before allowed that if the soul were harmony, it would +never utter a sound contrary to the tension, relaxation, vibration, or +any other affection to which its component parts are subject, but would +follow, and never govern them?" + +"We did allow it," he replied, "for how could we do otherwise?" + +"What, then? Does not the soul now appear to act quite the contrary, +ruling over all the parts from which any one might say it subsists, and +resisting almost all of them through the whole of life, and exercising +dominion over them in all manner of ways; punishing some more severely +even with pain, both by gymnastics and medicine, and others more mildly; +partly threatening, and partly admonishing the desires, angers and +fears, as if, being itself of a different nature, it were conversing +with something quite different? 99. Just as Homer has done in the +Odyssey,[35] where he speaks of Ulysses--'Having struck his breast, he +chid his heart in the following words: Bear up, my heart; ere this thou +hast borne far worse.' Do you think that he composed this in the belief +that the soul was harmony, and capable of being led by the passions of +the body, and not rather that it was able to lead and govern them, as +being something much more divine than to be compared with harmony?" + +"By Jupiter! Socrates, it appears so to me." + +"Therefore, my excellent friend, it is on no account correct for us to +say that the soul is a kind of harmony; for, as it appears, we should +neither agree with Homer, that divine poet, nor with ourselves." + +"Such is the case," he replied. + +"Be it so, then," said Socrates, "we have already, as it seems, +sufficiently appeased this Theban harmony. But how, Cebes, and by what +arguments, shall we appease this Cadmus?"[36] + +100. "You appear to me," replied Cebes, "to be likely to find out; for +you have made out this argument against harmony wonderfully beyond my +expectation. For when Simmias was saying what his doubts were, I +wondered very much whether any one would be able to answer his +reasoning. It, therefore, appeared to me unaccountable that he did not +withstand the very first onset of your argument. I should not, +therefore, be surprised if the arguments of Cadmus met with the same +fate." + +"My good friend," said Socrates, "do not speak so boastfully, lest some +envious power should overthrow the argument that is about to be urged. +These things, however, will be cared for by the deity; but let us, +meeting hand to hand, in the manner of Homer, try whether you say any +thing to the purpose. This, then, is the sum of what you inquire you +require it to be proved that our soul is imperishable and immortal; if a +philosopher that is about to die, full of confidence and hope that after +death he shall be far happier than if he had died after leading a +different kind of life, shall not entertain this confidence foolishly +and vainly. 101. But to show that the soul is something strong and +divine, and that it existed before we men were born, you say not at all +hinders, but that all these things may evince, not its immortality, but +that the soul is durable, and existed an immense space of time before, +and knew and did many things. But that, for all this, it was not at all +the more immortal, but that its very entrance into the body of a man was +the beginning of its destruction, as if it were a disease; so that it +passes through this life in wretchedness, and at last perishes in that +which is called death. But you say that it is of no consequence whether +it comes into a body once or often, with respect to our occasion of +fear; for it is right he should be afraid, unless he is foolish, who +does not know, and can not give a reason to prove, that the soul is +immortal. Such, I think, Cebes, is the sum of what you say; and I +purposely repeat it often, that nothing may escape us, and, if you +please, you may add to or take from it." + +Cebes replied, "I do not wish at present either to take from or add to +it; that is what I mean." + +102. Socrates, then having paused for some time, and considered +something within himself, said, "You inquire into no easy matter, Cebes; +for it is absolutely necessary to discuss the whole question of +generation and corruption. If you please, then, I will relate to you +what happened to me with reference to them; and afterward, if any thing +that I shall say shall appear to you useful toward producing conviction +on the subject you are now treating of, make use of it." + +"I do indeed wish it," replied Cebes. + +"Hear my relation, then. When I was a young man, Cebes, I was +wonderfully desirous of that wisdom which they call a history of nature; +for it appeared to me to be a very sublime thing to know the causes of +every thing--why each thing is generated, why it perishes, and why it +exists. And I often tossed myself upward and downward, considering first +such things as these, whether when heat and cold have undergone a +certain corruption, as some say, then animals are formed; and whether +the blood is that by means of which we think, or air, or fire, or none +of these, but that it is the brain that produces the perceptions of +hearing, seeing, and smelling; and that from these come memory and +opinion; and from memory and opinion, when in a state of rest, in the +same way knowledge is produced. 103. And, again, considering the +corruptions of these, and the affections incidental to the heavens and +the earth, I at length appeared to myself so unskillful in these +speculations that nothing could be more so. But I will give you a +sufficient proof of this; for I then became, by these very speculations, +so very blind with respect to things which I knew clearly before, as it +appeared to myself and others, that I unlearned even the things which I +thought I knew before, both on many other subjects and also this, why a +man grows. For, before, I thought this was evident to every one--that it +proceeds from eating and drinking; for that, when, from the food, flesh +is added to flesh, bone to bone, and so on in the same proportion, what +is proper to them is added to the several other parts, then the bulk +which was small becomes afterward large, and thus that a little man +becomes a big one. Such was my opinion at that time. Does it appear to +you correct?" + +"To me it does," said Cebes. + +104. "Consider this further. I thought that I had formed a right +opinion, when, on seeing a tall man standing by a short one, I judged +that he was taller by the head, and in like manner, one horse than +another; and, still more clearly than this, ten appeared to me to be +more than eight by two being added to them, and that two cubits are +greater than one cubit by exceeding it a half." + +"But now," said Cebes, "what think you of these matters?" + +"By Jupiter!" said he, "I am far from thinking that I know the cause of +these, for that I can not even persuade myself of this: when a person +has added one to one, whether the one to which the addition has been +made has become two, or whether that which has been added, and that to +which the addition has been made, have become two by the addition of the +one to the other. For I wonder if, when each of these was separate from +the other, each was one, and they were not yet two; but when they have +approached nearer each other this should be the cause of their becoming +two--namely, the union by which they have been placed nearer one +another. 105. Nor yet, if any person should divide one, am I able to +persuade myself that this, their division, is the cause of its becoming +two. For this cause is the contrary to the former one of their becoming +two; for then it was because they were brought nearer to each other, and +the one was added to the other; but now it is because one is removed and +separated from the other. Nor do I yet persuade myself that I know why +one is one, nor, in a word, why any thing else is produced, or perishes, +or exists, according to this method of proceeding; but I mix up another +method of my own at random, for this I can on no account give in to." + +"But, having once heard a person reading from a book, written, as he +said, by Anaxagoras, and which said that it is intelligence that sets in +order and is the cause of all things, I was delighted with this cause, +and it appeared to me in a manner to be well that intelligence should be +the cause of all things, and I considered with myself, if this is so, +that the regulating intelligence orders all things, and disposes each in +such way as will be best for it. 106. If any one, then, should desire to +discover the cause of every thing, in what way it is produced, or +perishes, or exists, he must discover this respecting it--in what way it +is best for it either to exist, or to suffer, or do any thing else. From +this mode of reasoning, then, it is proper that a man should consider +nothing else, both with respect to himself and others, than what is most +excellent and best; and it necessarily follows that this same person +must also know that which is worst, for that the knowledge of both of +them is the same. Thus reasoning with myself, I was delighted to think I +had found in Anaxagoras a preceptor who would instruct me in the causes +of things, agreeably to my own mind, and that he would inform me, first, +whether the earth is flat or round, and, when he had informed me, +would, moreover, explain the cause and necessity of its being so, +arguing on the principle of the better, and showing that it is better +for it to be such as it is; and if he should say that it is in the +middle, that he would, moreover, explain how it is better for it to be +in the middle; and if he should make all this clear to me, I was +prepared no longer to require any other species of cause. 107. I was in +like manner prepared to inquire respecting the sun and moon and the +other stars, with respect to their velocities in reference to each +other, and their revolutions and other conditions, in what way it is +better for both to act and be affected as it does and is. For I never +thought that after he had said that these things were set in order by +intelligence, he would introduce any other cause for them than that it +is best for them to be as they are. Hence, I thought, that in assigning +the cause to each of them, and to all in common, he would explain that +which is best for each, and the common good of all. And I would not have +given up my hopes for a good deal; but, having taken up his books with +great eagerness, I read through them as quickly as I could, that I might +as soon as possible know the best and the worst." + +108. "From this wonderful hope, however, my friend, I was speedily +thrown down, when, as I advance and read over his works, I meet with a +man who makes no use of intelligence, nor assigns any causes for the +ordering of all things, but makes the causes to consist of air, ether, +and water, and many other things equally absurd. And he appeared to me +to be very like one who should say that whatever Socrates does he does +by intelligence, and then, attempting to describe the causes of each +particular action, should say, first of all, that for this reason I am +now sitting here, because my body is composed of bones and sinews and +that the bones are hard, and have joints separate from each other, but +that the sinews, being capable of tension and contraction, cover the +bones, together with the flesh and skin which contain them. The bones, +therefore, being suspended in their sockets, the nerves, relaxing and +tightening, enable me to bend my limbs as I now do, and from this cause +I sit here bent up. 109. And if, again, he should assign other similar +causes for my conversing with you, assigning as causes voice, and air, +and hearing, and ten thousand other things of the kind, omitting to +mention the real causes, that since it appeared better to the Athenians +to condemn me, I therefore thought it better to sit here, and more just +to remain and submit to the punishment which they have ordered; for, by +the dog! I think these sinews and bones would have been long ago either +in Megara or Boeotia, borne thither by an opinion of that which is best, +if I had not thought it more just and honorable to submit to whatever +sentence the city might order than to flee and run stealthily away. But +to call such things causes is too absurd. But if any one should say that +without possessing such things as bones and sinews, and whatever else I +have, I could not do what I pleased, he would speak the truth; but to +say that I do as I do through them, and that I act thus by intelligence, +and not from the choice of what is best, would be a great and extreme +disregard of reason. 110. For this would be not to be able to +distinguish that the real cause is one thing, and that another, without +which a cause could not be a cause; which, indeed, the generality of men +appear to me to do, fumbling, as it were, in the dark, and making use of +strange names, so as to denominate them as the very cause. Wherefore one +encompassing the earth with a vortex from heaven makes the earth remain +fixed; but another, as if it were a broad trough, rests it upon the air +as its base; but the power by which these things are now so disposed +that they may be placed in the best manner possible, this they neither +inquire into, nor do they think that it requires any superhuman +strength; but they think they will some time or other find out an Atlas +stronger and more immortal than this, and more capable of containing all +things; and in reality, the good, and that which ought to hold them +together and contain them, they take no account of at all. I, then, +should most gladly have become the disciple of any one who would teach +me of such a cause, in what way it is. But when I was disappointed of +this, and was neither able to discover it myself, nor to learn it from +another, do you wish, Cebes, that I should show you in what way I set +out upon a second voyage in search of the cause?" + +111. "I wish it exceedingly," he replied. + +"It appeared to me, then," said he, "after this, when I was wearied with +considering things that exist, that I ought to beware lest I should +suffer in the same way as they do who look at and examine an eclipse of +the sun, for some lose the sight of their eyes, unless they behold its +image in water, or some similar medium. And I was affected with a +similar feeling, and was afraid lest I should be utterly blinded in my +soul through beholding things with the eyes, and endeavoring to grasp +them by means of the several senses. It seemed to me, therefore, that I +ought to have recourse to reasons, and to consider in them the truth of +things. Perhaps, however, this similitude of mine may in some respect be +incorrect; for I do not altogether admit that he who considers things in +their reasons considers them in their images, more than he does who +views them in their effects. However, I proceeded thus, and on each +occasion laying down the reason, which I deem to be the strongest, +whatever things appear to me to accord with this I regard as true, both +with respect to the cause and every thing else; but such as do not +accord I regard as not true. 112. But I wish to explain my meaning to +you in a clearer manner; for I think that you do not yet understand me." + +"No, by Jupiter!" said Cebes, "not well." + +"However," continued he, "I am now saying nothing new, but what I have +always at other times, and in a former part of this discussion, never +ceased to say. I proceed, then, to attempt to explain to you that +species of cause which I have busied myself about, and return again to +those well-known subjects, and set out from them, laying down as an +hypothesis, that there is a certain abstract beauty, and goodness, and +magnitude, and so of all other things; which if you grant me, and allow +that they do exist, I hope that I shall be able from these to explain +the cause to you, and to discover that the soul is immortal." + +"But," said Cebes, "since I grant you this, you may draw your conclusion +at once." + +"But consider," he said, "what follows from thence, and see if you can +agree with me. For it appears to me that if there is any thing else +beautiful besides beauty itself, it is not beautiful for any other +reason than because it partakes of that abstract beauty; and I say the +same of every thing. Do you admit such a cause?" + +"I do admit it," he replied. + +113. "I do not yet understand," he continued, "nor am I able to +conceive, those other wise causes; but if any one should tell me why any +thing is beautiful, either because it has a blooming florid color, or +figure, or any thing else of the kind, I dismiss all other reasons, for +I am confounded by them all; but I simply, wholly, and perhaps +foolishly, confine myself to this, that nothing else causes it to be +beautiful except either the presence or communication of that abstract +beauty, by whatever means and in whatever way communicated; for I can +not yet affirm this with certainty, but only that by means of beauty all +beautiful things become beautiful. For this appears to me the safest +answer to give both to myself and others; and adhering to this, I think +that I shall never fall, but that it is a safe answer both for me and +any one else to give--that by means of beauty beautiful things become +beautiful. Does it not also seem so to you?" + +"It does." + +"And that by magnitude great things become great, and greater things, +greater; and by littleness less things become less?" + +"Yes." + +114. "You would not, then, approve of it, if any one said that one +person is greater than another by the head, and that the less is less by +the very same thing; but you would maintain that you mean nothing else +than that every thing that is greater than another is greater by nothing +else than magnitude, and that it is greater on this account--that is, on +account of magnitude; and that the less is less by nothing else than +littleness, and on this account less--that is, on account of littleness; +being afraid, I think, lest some opposite argument should meet you if +you should say that any one is greater and less by the head; as, first, +that the greater is greater, and the less less, by the very same thing; +and, next, that the greater is greater by the head, which is small; and +that it is monstrous to suppose that any one is great through something +small. Should you not be afraid of this?" + +To which said Cebes, smilingly, "Indeed, I should." + +"Should you not, then," he continued, "be afraid to say that ten is more +than eight by two, and for this cause exceeds it, and not by number, +and on account of number? and that two cubits are greater than one cubit +by half, and not by magnitude (for the fear is surely the same)?" + +"Certainly," he replied. + +115. "What, then? When one has been added to one, would you not beware +of saying that the addition is the cause of its being two, or division +when it has been divided; and would you not loudly assert that you know +no other way in which each thing subsists, than by partaking of the +peculiar essence of each of which it partakes, and that in these cases +you can assign no other cause of its becoming two than its partaking of +duality; and that such things as are to become two must needs partake of +this, and what is to become one, of unity; but these divisions and +additions, and other such subtleties, you would dismiss, leaving them to +be given as answers by persons wiser than yourself; whereas you, +fearing, as it is said, your own shadow and inexperience, would adhere +to this safe hypothesis, and answer accordingly? But if any one should +assail this hypothesis of yours, would you not dismiss him, and refrain +from answering him till you had considered the consequences resulting +from it, whether in your opinion they agree with or differ from each +other? But when it should be necessary for you to give a reason for it, +would you give one in a similar way, by again laying down another +hypothesis, which should appear the best of higher principles, until you +arrived at something satisfactory; but, at the same time, you would +avoid making confusion, as disputants do, in treating of the first +principle and the results arising from it, if you really desire to +arrive at the truth of things? 116. For they, perhaps, make no account +at all of this, nor pay any attention to it; for they are able, through +their wisdom, to mingle all things together, and at the same time please +themselves. But you, if you are a philosopher, would act, I think, as I +now describe." + +"You speak most truly," said Simmias and Cebes together. + +_Echec._ By Jupiter! Phaedo, they said so with good reason; for he +appears to me to have explained these things with wonderful clearness, +even to one endued with a small degree of intelligence. + +_Phaed._ Certainly, Echecrates, and so it appeared to all who were +present. + +_Echec._ And so it appears to me, who was absent, and now hear it +related. But what was said after this? + +As well as I remember, when these things had been granted him, and it +was allowed that each several idea exists of itself,[37] and that other +things partaking of them receive their denomination from them, he next +asked: "If, then," he said, "you admit that things are so, whether, when +you say that Simmias is greater than Socrates, but less than Phaedo, do +you not then say that magnitude and littleness are both in Simmias?" + +"I do." + +117. "And yet," he said, "you must confess that Simmias's exceeding +Socrates is not actually true in the manner in which the words express +it; for Simmias does not naturally exceed Socrates in that he is +Simmias, but in consequence of the magnitude which he happens to have; +nor, again, does he exceed Socrates because Socrates is Socrates, but +because Socrates possesses littleness in comparison with his magnitude?" + +"True." + +"Nor, again, is Simmias exceeded by Phaedo, because Phaedo is Phaedo, but +because Phaedo possesses magnitude in comparison with Simmias's +littleness?" + +"It is so." + +"Thus, then, Simmias has the appellation of being both little and great, +being between both, by exceeding the littleness of one through his own +magnitude, and to the other yielding a magnitude that exceeds his own +littleness." And at the same time, smiling, he said, "I seem to speak +with the precision of a short-hand writer; however, it is as I say." + +He allowed it. + +118. "But I say it for this reason, wishing you to be of the same +opinion as myself. For it appears to me, not only that magnitude itself +is never disposed to be at the same time great and little, but that +magnitude in us never admits the little nor is disposed to be exceeded, +but one of two things, either to flee and withdraw when its contrary, +the little, approaches it, or, when it has actually come, to perish; but +that it is not disposed, by sustaining and receiving littleness, to be +different from what it was. Just as I, having received and sustained +littleness, and still continuing the person that I am, am this same +little person; but that, while it is great, never endures to be little. +And, in like manner, the little that is in us is not disposed at any +time to become or to be great, nor is any thing else among contraries, +while it continues what it was, at the same time disposed to become and +to be its contrary; but in this contingency it either departs or +perishes." + +119. "It appears so to me," said Cebes, "in every respect." + +But some one of those present, on hearing this, I do not clearly +remember who he was, said, "By the gods! was not the very contrary of +what is now asserted admitted in the former part of our discussion, that +the greater is produced from the less, and the less from the greater, +and, in a word, that the very production of contraries is from +contraries? But now it appears to me to be asserted that this can never +be the case." + +Upon this Socrates, having leaned his head forward and listened, said, +"You have reminded me in a manly way; you do not, however, perceive the +difference between what is now and what was then asserted. For then it +was said that a contrary thing is produced from a contrary; but now, +that a contrary can never become contrary to itself--neither that which +is in us, nor that which is in nature. For then, my friend, we spoke of +things that have contraries, calling them by the appellation of those +things; but now we are speaking of those very things from the presence +of which things so called receive their appellation, and of these very +things we say that they are never disposed to admit of production from +each other." 120. And, at the same time looking at Cebes, "Has anything +that has been said, Cebes, disturbed you?" + +"Indeed," said Cebes, "I am not at all so disposed; however, I by no +means say that there are not many things that disturb me." + +"Then," he continued, "we have quite agreed to this, that a contrary can +never be contrary to itself." + +"Most certainly," he replied. + +"But, further," he said, "consider whether you will agree with me in +this also. Do you call heat and cold any thing?" + +"I do." + +"The same as snow and fire?" + +"By Jupiter! I do not." + +"But heat is something different from fire, and cold something different +from snow?" + +"Yes." + +"But this, I think, is apparent to you--that snow, while it is snow, can +never, when it has admitted heat, as we said before, continue to be what +it was, snow and hot; but, on the approach of heat, it must either +withdraw or perish?" + +"Certainly." + +"And, again, that fire, when cold approaches it, must either depart or +perish; but that it will never endure, when it has admitted coldness, to +continue what it was, fire and cold?" + +121. "You speak truly," he said. + +"It happens, then," he continued, "with respect to some of such things, +that not only is the idea itself always thought worthy of the same +appellation, but likewise something else which is not, indeed, that idea +itself, but constantly retains its form so long as it exists. What I +mean will perhaps be clearer in the following examples: the odd in +number must always possess the name by which we now call it, must it +not?" + +"Certainly." + +"Must it alone, of all things--for this I ask--or is there any thing +else which is not the same as the odd, but yet which we must always call +odd, together with its own name, because it is so constituted by nature +that it can never be without the odd? But this, I say, is the case with +the number three, and many others. For consider with respect to the +number three: does it not appear to you that it must always be called by +its own name, as well as by that of the odd, which is not the same as +the number three? Yet such is the nature of the number three, five, and +the entire half of number, that though they are not the same as the odd, +yet each of them is always odd. And, again, two and four, and the whole +other series of number, though not the same as the even, are +nevertheless each of them always even: do you admit this, or not?" + +122. "How should I not?" he replied. + +"Observe then," said he, "what I wish to prove. It is this--that it +appears not only that these contraries do not admit each other, but that +even such things as are not contrary to each other, and yet always +possess contraries, do not appear to admit that idea which is contrary +to the idea that exists in themselves, but, when it approaches, perish +or depart. Shall we not allow that the number three would first perish, +and suffer any thing whatever, rather than endure, while it is still +three, to become even?" + +"Most certainly," said Cebes. + +"And yet," said he, "the number two is not contrary to three." + +"Surely not." + +"Not only, then, do ideas that are contrary never allow the approach of +each other, but some other things also do not allow the approach of +contraries." + +"You say very truly," he replied. + +"Do you wish, then," he said, "that, if we are able, we should define +what these things are?" + +"Certainly." + +"Would they not then, Cebes," he said, "be such things as, whatever they +occupy, compel that thing not only to retain its own idea, but also that +of something which is always a contrary?" + +"How do you mean?" + +123. "As we just now said. For you know, surely, that whatever things +the idea of three occupies must of necessity not only be three, but also +odd?" + +"Certainly." + +"To such a thing, then, we assert, that the idea contrary to that form +which constitutes this can never come." + +"It can not." + +"But did the odd make it so?" + +"Yes." + +"And is the contrary to this the idea of the even?" + +"Yes." + +"The idea of the even, then, will never come to the three?" + +"No, surely." + +"Three, then, has no part in the even?" + +"None whatever." + +"The number three is uneven?" + +"Yes." + +"What, therefore, I said should be defined--namely, what things they are +which, though not contrary to some particular thing, yet do not admit of +the contrary itself; as, in the present instance, the number three, +though not contrary to the even, does not any the more admit it, for it +always brings the contrary with it, just as the number two does to the +odd, fire to cold, and many other particulars. Consider, then, whether +you would thus define, not only that a contrary does not admit a +contrary, but also that that which brings with it a contrary to that to +which it approaches will never admit the contrary of that which it +brings with it. 124. But call it to mind again, for it will not be +useless to hear it often repeated. Five will not admit the idea of the +even, nor ten, its double, that of the odd. This double, then, though it +is itself contrary to something else,[38] yet will not admit the idea of +the odd, nor will half as much again, nor other things of the kind, such +as the half and the third part, admit the idea of the whole, if you +follow me, and agree with me that it is so." + +"I entirely agree with you," he said, "and follow you." + +"Tell me again, then," he said, "from the beginning; and do not answer +me in the terms in which I put the question, but in different ones, +imitating my example. For I say this because, besides that safe mode of +answering which I mentioned at first,[39] from what has now been said, I +see another no less safe one. For if you should ask me what that is +which, if it be in the body, will cause it to be hot, I should not give +you that safe but unlearned answer, that it is heat, but one more +elegant, from what we have just now said, that it is fire; nor, if you +should ask me what that is which, if it be in the body, will cause it to +be diseased, should I say that it is disease, but fever; nor if you +should ask what that is which, if it be in number, will cause it to be +odd, should I say that it is unevenness, but unity; and so with other +things. But consider whether you sufficiently understand what I mean." + +125. "Perfectly so," he replied. + +"Answer me, then," he said, "what that is which, when it is in the body, +the body will be alive?" + +"Soul," he replied. + +"Is not this, then, always the case?" + +"How should it not be?" said he. + +"Does the soul, then, always bring life to whatever it occupies?" + +"It does indeed," he replied. + +"Whether, then, is there any thing contrary to life or not?" + +"There is," he replied. + +"What?" + +"Death." + +"The soul, then, will never admit the contrary of that which it brings +with it, as has been already allowed?" + +"Most assuredly," replied Cebes. + +"What, then? How do we denominate that which does not admit the idea of +the even?" + +"Uneven," he replied. + +"And that which does not admit the just, nor the musical?" + +"Unmusical," he said, "and unjust." + +"Be it so. But what do we call that which does not admit death?" + +"Immortal," he replied. + +"Therefore, does not the soul admit death?" + +"No." + +"Is the soul, then, immortal?" + +"Immortal." + +126. "Be it so," he said. "Shall we say, then, that this has been now +demonstrated? or how think you?" + +"Most completely, Socrates." + +"What, then," said he, "Cebes, if it were necessary for the uneven to be +imperishable, would the number three be otherwise than imperishable?" + +"How should it not?" + +"If, therefore, it were also necessary that what is without heat should +be imperishable, when any one should introduce heat to snow, would not +the snow withdraw itself, safe and unmelted? For it would not perish; +nor yet would it stay and admit the heat." + +"You say truly," he replied. + +"In like manner, I think, if that which is insusceptible of cold were +imperishable, that when any thing cold approached the fire, it would +neither be extinguished nor perish, but would depart quite safe." + +"Of necessity," he said. + +"Must we not, then, of necessity," he continued, "speak thus of that +which is immortal? if that which is immortal is imperishable, it is +impossible for the soul to perish, when death approaches it. For, from +what has been said already, it will not admit death, nor will ever be +dead; just as we said that three will never be even, nor, again, will +the odd; nor will fire be cold, nor yet the heat that is in fire. 127. +But some one may say, what hinders, though the odd can never become even +by the approach of the even, as we have allowed, yet, when the odd is +destroyed, that the even should succeed in its place? We could not +contend with him who should make this objection that it is not +destroyed, for the uneven is not imperishable; since, if this were +granted us, we might easily have contended that, on the approach of the +even, the odd and the three depart; and we might have contended in the +same way with respect to fire, heat, and the rest, might we not?" + +"Certainly." + +"Wherefore, with respect to the immortal, if we have allowed that it is +imperishable, the soul, in addition to its being immortal, must also be +imperishable; if not, there will be need of other arguments." + +"But there is no need," he said, "so far as that is concerned; for +scarcely could any thing not admit of corruption, if that which is +immortal and eternal is liable to it." + +128. "The deity, indeed, I think," said Socrates, "and the idea itself +of life, and if anything else is immortal, must be allowed by all beings +to be incapable of dissolution." + +"By Jupiter!" he replied, "by all men, indeed, and still more, as I +think, by the gods." + +"Since, then, that which is immortal is also incorruptible, can the +soul, since it is immortal, be any thing else than imperishable?" + +"It must, of necessity, be so." + +"When, therefore, death approaches a man, the mortal part of him, as it +appears, dies, but the immortal part departs safe and uncorrupted, +having withdrawn itself from death?" + +"It appears so." + +"The soul, therefore," he said, "Cebes, is most certainly immortal and +imperishable, and our souls will really exist in Hades." + +"Therefore, Socrates," he said, "I have nothing further to say against +this, nor any reason for doubting your arguments. But if Simmias here, +or any one else, has any thing to say, it were well for him not to be +silent; for I know not to what other opportunity beyond the present any +one can defer it, who wishes either to speak or hear about these +things." + +"But, indeed," said Simmias, "neither have I any reason to doubt what +has been urged; yet, from the magnitude of the subject discussed, and +from my low opinion of human weakness, I am compelled still to retain a +doubt within myself with respect to what has been said." + +"Not only so, Simmias," said Socrates, "but you say this well; and, +moreover, the first hypotheses, even though they are credible to you, +should nevertheless be examined more carefully; and if you should +investigate them sufficiently, I think you will follow my reasoning as +far as it is possible for man to do so; and if this very point becomes +clear, you will inquire no further." + +"You speak truly," he said. + +"But it is right, my friends," he said, "that we should consider this--- +that if the soul is immortal, it requires our care not only for the +present time, which we call life, but for all time; and the danger would +now appear to be dreadful if one should neglect it. 130. For if death +were a deliverance from every thing, it would be a great gain for the +wicked, when they die, to be delivered at the same time from the body, +and from their vices together with the soul; but now, since it appears +to be immortal, it can have no other refuge from evils, nor safety, +except by becoming as good and wise as possible. For the soul goes to +Hades possessing nothing else than its discipline and education, which +are said to be of the greatest advantage or detriment to the dead, on +the very beginning of his journey thither. For, thus, it is said that +each person's demon who was assigned to him while living, when he dies +conducts him to some place, where they that are assembled together must +receive sentence, and then proceed to Hades with that guide who has been +ordered to conduct them from hence thither. But there having received +their deserts, and having remained the appointed time, another guide +brings them back hither again, after many and long revolutions of time. +The journey, then, is not such as the Telephus of AEschylus describes it; +for he says that a simple path leads to Hades; but it appears to me to +be neither simple nor one, for there would be no need of guides, nor +could any one ever miss the way, if there were but one. But now it +appears to have many divisions and windings; and this I conjecture from +our religious and funeral rites.[40] 131. The well-ordered and wise +soul, then, both follows, and is not ignorant of its present condition; +but that which through passion clings to the body, as I said before, +having longingly fluttered about it for a long time, and about its +visible place,[41] after vehement resistance and great suffering, is +forcibly and with great difficulty led away by its appointed demon. And +when it arrives at the place where the others are, impure and having +done any such thing as the committal of unrighteous murders or other +similar actions, which are kindred to these, and are the deeds of +kindred souls, every one shuns it and turns away from it, and will be +neither its fellow-traveler nor guide; but it wanders about, oppressed +with every kind of helplessness, until certain periods have elapsed; and +when these are completed, it is carried, of necessity, to an abode +suitable to it. But the soul which has passed through life with purity +and moderation, having obtained the gods for its fellow-travelers and +guides, settles each in the place suited to it. 132. There are, indeed, +many and wonderful places in the earth, and it is itself neither of such +a kind nor of such a magnitude as is supposed by those who are +accustomed to speak of the earth, as I have been persuaded by a certain +person." + +Whereupon Simmias said, "How mean you, Socrates? For I, too, have heard +many things about the earth--not, however, those things which have +obtained your belief. I would, therefore, gladly hear them." + +"Indeed, Simmias, the art of Glaucus[42] does not seem to me to be +required to relate what these things are. That they are true, however, +appears to me more than the art of Glaucus can prove, and, besides, I +should probably not be able to do it; and even if I did know how, what +remains to me of life, Simmias, seems insufficient for the length of the +subject. However, the form of the earth, such as I am persuaded it is, +and the different places in it, nothing hinders me from telling." + +"But that will be enough," said Simmias. + +"I am persuaded, then," said he, "in the first place, that, if the earth +is in the middle of the heavens, and is of a spherical form, it has no +need of air, nor of any other similar force, to prevent it from falling; +but that the similarity of the heavens to themselves on every side, and +the equilibrium of the earth itself, are sufficient to support it; for a +thing in a state of equilibrium when placed in the middle of something +that presses it equally on all sides can not incline more or less on any +side, but, being equally affected all around, remains unmoved. 133. In +the first place, then," he said, "I am persuaded of this." + +"And very properly so," said Simmias. + +"Yet, further," said he, "that it is very large, and that we who inhabit +some small portion of it, from the river Phasis to the pillars of +Hercules, dwell about the sea, like ants or frogs about a marsh; and +that many others elsewhere dwell in many similar places, for that there +are everywhere about the earth many hollows of various forms and sizes +into which there is a confluence of water, mist and air; but that the +earth itself, being pure, is situated in the pure heavens, in which are +the stars, and which most persons who are accustomed to speak about such +things call ether; of which these things are the sediment, and are +continually flowing into the hollow parts of the earth. 134. That we are +ignorant, then, that we are dwelling in its hollows, and imagine that we +inhabit the upper parts of the earth, just as if any one dwelling in the +bottom of the sea should think that he dwelt on the sea, and, beholding +the sun and the other stars through the water, should imagine that the +sea was the heavens; but, through sloth and weakness, should never have +reached the surface of the sea; nor, having emerged and risen up from +the sea to this region, have seen how much more pure and more beautiful +it is than the place where he is, nor has heard of it from any one else +who has seen it. This, then, is the very condition in which we are; for, +dwelling in some hollow of the earth, we think that we dwell on the +surface of it, and call the air heaven, as if the stars moved through +this, being heaven itself. But this is because, by reason of our +weakness and sloth, we are unable to reach to the summit of the air. +Since, if any one could arrive at its summit, or, becoming winged, could +fly up thither, or, emerging from hence, he would see--just as with us, +fishes, emerging from the sea, behold what is here, so any one would +behold the things there; and if his nature were able to endure the +contemplation, he would know that that is the true heaven, and the true +light, and the true earth. 135. For this earth and these stones, and the +whole region here, are decayed and corroded, as things in the sea by the +saltness; for nothing of any value grows in the sea, nor, in a word, +does it contain any thing perfect; but there are caverns and sand, and +mud in abundance, and filth, in whatever parts of the sea there is +earth, nor are they at all worthy to be compared with the beautiful +things with us. But, on the other hand, those things in the upper +regions of the earth would appear far more to excel the things with us. +For, if we may tell a beautiful fable, it is well worth hearing, +Simmias, what kind the things are on the earth beneath the heavens." + +"Indeed, Socrates," said Simmias, "we should be very glad to hear that +fable." + +136. "First of all, then, my friend," he continued, "this earth, if any +one should survey it from above, is said to have the appearance of +balls covered with twelve different pieces of leather, variegated and +distinguished with colors, of which the colors found here, and which +painters use, are, as it were, copies. But there the whole earth is +composed of such, and far more brilliant and pure than these; for one +part of it is purple, and of wonderful beauty, part of a golden color, +and part of white, more white than chalk or snow, and, in like manner, +composed of other colors, and those more in number and more beautiful +than any we have ever beheld. And those very hollow parts of the earth, +though filled with water and air, exhibit a certain species of color, +shining among the variety of other colors, so that one continually +variegated aspect presents itself to the view. In this earth, being +such, all things that grow, grow in a manner proportioned to its +nature--trees, flowers and fruits; and, again, in like manner, its +mountains and stones possess, in the same proportion, smoothness and +transparency, and more beautiful colors; of which the well-known stones +here that are so highly prized are but fragments, such as +sardine-stones, jaspers, and emeralds, and all of that kind. But there, +there is nothing subsists that is not of this character, and even more +beautiful than these. 137. But the reason of this is, because the stones +there are pure, and not eaten up and decayed, like those here, by +rottenness and saltness, which flow down hither together, and which +produce deformity and disease in the stones and the earth, and in other +things, even animals and plants. But that earth is adorned with all +these, and, moreover, with gold and silver, and other things of the +kind: for they are naturally conspicuous, being numerous and large, and +in all parts of the earth; so that to behold it is a sight for the +blessed. There are also many other animals and men upon it, some +dwelling in mid-earth, others about the air, as we do about the sea, and +others in islands which the air flows round, and which are near the +continent; and, in one word, what water and the sea are to us, for our +necessities, the air is to them; and what air is to us, that ether is to +them. 138. But their seasons are of such a temperament that they are +free from disease, and live for a much longer time than those here, and +surpass us in sight, hearing, and smelling, and every thing of this +kind, as much as air excels water, and ether air, in purity. Moreover, +they have abodes and temples of the gods, in which gods really dwell, +and voices and oracles, and sensible visions of the gods, and such-like +intercourse with them; the sun, too, and moon, and stars, are seen by +them such as they really are, and their felicity in other respects is +correspondent with these things." + +"And, such, indeed, is the nature of the whole earth, and the parts +about the earth; but there are many places all round it throughout its +cavities, some deeper and more open than that in which we dwell; but +others that are deeper have a less chasm than our region, and others are +shallower in depth than it is here, and broader. 139. But all these are +in many places perforated one into another under the earth, some with +narrower and some with wider channels, and have passages through, by +which a great quantity of water flows from one into another, as into +basins, and there are immense bulks of ever-flowing rivers under the +earth, both of hot and cold water, and a great quantity of fire, and +mighty rivers of fire, and many of liquid mire, some purer, and some +more miry, as in Sicily there are rivers of mud that flow before the +lava, and the lava itself, and from these the several places are filled, +according as the overflow from time to time happens to come to each of +them. But all these move up and down, as it were, by a certain +oscillation existing in the earth. And this oscillation proceeds from +such natural cause as this; one of the chasms of the earth is +exceedingly large, and perforated through the entire earth, and is that +which Homer[43] speaks of, 'very far off, where is the most profound +abyss beneath the earth,' which elsewhere both he and many other poets +have called Tartarus. For into this chasm all rivers flow together, and +from it flow out again; but they severally derive their character from +the earth through which they flow. 140. And the reason why all streams +flow out from thence, and flow into it, is because this liquid has +neither bottom nor base. Therefore, it oscillates and fluctuates up and +down, and the air and the wind around it do the same; for they accompany +it both when it rushes to those parts of the earth, and when to these. +And as in respiration the flowing breath is continually breathed out and +drawn in, so there the wind oscillating with the liquid causes certain +vehement and irresistible winds both as it enters and goes out. When, +therefore, the water rushing in descends to the place which we call the +lower region, it flows through the earth into the streams there, and +fills them, just as men pump up water. But when again it leaves those +regions and rushes hither, it again fills the rivers here; and these, +when filled, flow through channels and through the earth, and, having +severally reached the several places to which they are journeying, they +make seas, lakes, rivers, and fountains. 141. Then, sinking again from +thence beneath the earth, some of them having gone round longer and more +numerous places, and others round fewer and shorter, they again +discharge themselves into Tartarus--some much lower than they were drawn +up, others only a little so; but all of them flow in again beneath the +point at which they flowed out. And some issue out directly opposite the +place by which they flow in, others on the same side. There are also +some which, having gone round altogether in a circle, folding themselves +once or several times round the earth, like serpents, when they have +descended as low as possible, discharge themselves again; and it is +possible for them to descend on either side as far as the middle, but +not beyond; for in each direction there is an acclivity to the streams +both ways." + +"Now, there are many other large and various streams; but among this +great number there are four certain streams, of which the largest, and +that which flows most outwardly round the earth, is called Ocean; but +directly opposite this, and flowing in a contrary direction, is Acheron, +which flows through other desert places, and, moreover, passing under +the earth, reaches the Acherusian lake, where the souls of most who die +arrive; and, having remained there for certain destined periods, some +longer and some shorter, are again sent forth into the generations of +animals. 142. A third river issues midway between these, and, near its +source, falls into a vast region, burning with abundance of fire, and +forms a lake larger than our sea, boiling with water and mud. From hence +it proceeds in a circle, turbulent and muddy, and, folding itself round +it, reaches both other places and the extremity of the Acherusian lake, +but does not mingle with its water; but, folding itself oftentimes +beneath the earth, it discharges itself into the lower parts of +Tartarus. And this is the river which they call Pyriphlegethon, whose +burning streams emit dissevered fragments in whatever part of the earth +they happen to be. Opposite to this, again, the fourth river first falls +into a place dreadful and savage, as it is said, having its whole color +like cyanus:[44] this they call Stygian, and the lake which the river +forms by its discharge, Styx. This river, having fallen in here, and +received awful power in the water, sinking beneath the earth, proceeds, +folding itself round, in an opposite course to Pyriphlegethon, and meets +it in the Acherusian lake from, a contrary direction. Neither does the +water of this river mingle with any other; but it, too, having gone +round in a circle, discharges itself into Tartarus, opposite to +Pyriphlegethon. Its name, as the poets say, is Cocytus." + +143. "These things being thus constituted, when the dead arrive at the +place to which their demon leads them severally, first of all they are +judged, as well those who have lived well and piously, as those who have +not. And those who appear to have passed a middle kind of life, +proceeding to Acheron, and embarking in the vessels they have, on these +arrive at the lake, and there dwell; and when they are purified, and +have suffered punishment for the iniquities they may have committed, +they are set free, and each receives the reward of his good deeds, +according to his deserts. But those who appear to be incurable, through +the magnitude of their offenses, either from having committed many and +great sacrileges, or many unjust and lawless murders, or other similar +crimes, these a suitable destiny hurls into Tartarus, whence they never +come forth. 144. But those who appear to have been guilty of curable yet +great offenses--such as those who, through anger, have committed any +violence against father or mother, and have lived the remainder of their +life in a state of penitence, or they who have become homicides in a +similar manner--these must, of necessity, fall into Tartarus. But after +they have fallen, and have been there for a year, the wave casts them +forth, the homicides into Cocytus, but the parricides and matricides +into Pyriphlegethon. But when, being borne along, they arrive at the +Acherusian lake, there they cry out to and invoke, some those whom they +slew, others those whom they injured, and, invoking them, they entreat +and implore them to suffer them to go out into the lake, and to receive +them, and if they persuade them, they go out, and are freed from their +sufferings, but if not, they are borne back to Tartarus, and thence +again to the rivers. And they do not cease from suffering this until +they have persuaded those whom they have injured, for this sentence was +imposed on them by the judges. 145. But those who are found to have +lived an eminently holy life, these are they who, being freed and set at +large from these regions in the earth as from a prison, arrive at the +pure abode above, and dwell on the upper parts of the earth. And among +these, they who have sufficiently purified themselves by philosophy +shall live without bodies, throughout all future time, and shall arrive +at habitations yet more beautiful than these which it is neither easy to +describe, nor at present is there sufficient time for the purpose." + +"But, for the sake of these things which we have described, we should +use every endeavor, Simmias, so as to acquire virtue and wisdom in this +life, for the reward is noble, and the hope great." + +"To affirm positively, indeed, that these things are exactly as I have +described them does not become a man of sense. That, however, either +this, or something of the kind, takes place with respect to our souls +and their habitations--since our soul is certainly immortal--this +appears to me most fitting to be believed, and worthy the hazard for one +who trusts in its reality; for the hazard is noble, and it is right to +allure ourselves with such things, as with enchantments, for which +reason I have prolonged my story to such a length. 146. On account of +these things, then, a man ought to be confident about his soul who, +during this life, has disregarded all the pleasures and ornaments of the +body as foreign from his nature, and who, having thought that they do +more harm than good, has zealously applied himself to the acquirement of +knowledge, and who, having adorned his soul, not with a foreign, but its +own proper ornament--temperance, justice, fortitude, freedom, and +truth--thus waits for his passage to Hades, as one who is ready to +depart whenever destiny shall summon him. You, then," he continued, +"Simmias and Cebes, and the rest, will each of you depart at some future +time, but now destiny summons me, as a tragic writer would say, and it +is nearly time for me to betake myself to the bath, for it appears to me +to be better to drink the poison after I have bathed myself, and not to +trouble the women with washing my dead body." + +147. When he had thus spoken, Crito said, "So be it, Socrates, but what +commands have you to give to these or to me, either respecting your +children, or any other matter, in attending to which we can most oblige +you?" + +"What I always say, Crito," he replied, "nothing new that by taking care +of yourselves you will oblige both me and mine, and yourselves, whatever +you do, though you should not now promise it, and if you neglect +yourselves, and will not live, as it were, in the footsteps of what has +been now and formerly said, even though you should promise much at +present, and that earnestly, you will do no good at all." + +"We will endeavor, then, so to do," he said. "But how shall we bury +you?" + +"Just as you please," he said, "if only you can catch me, and I do not +escape from you." 148. And, at the same time smiling gently, and looking +round on us, he said, "I cannot persuade Crito, my friends, that I am +that Socrates who is now conversing with you, and who methodizes each +part of the discourse; but he thinks that I am he whom he will shortly +behold dead, and asks how he should bury me. But that which I some time +since argued at length, that when I have drunk the poison I shall no +longer remain with you, but shall depart to some happy state of the +blessed, this I seem to have urged to him in vain, though I meant at the +same time to console both you and myself. Be ye, then, my sureties to +Crito," he said, "in an obligation contrary to that which he made to the +judges (for he undertook that I should remain); but do you be sureties +that, when I die, I shall not remain, but shall depart, that Crito may +more easily bear it; and, when he sees my body either burned or buried, +may not be afflicted for me, as if I suffered from some dreadful thing; +nor say at my interment that Socrates is laid out, or is carried out, or +is buried. 149. For be well assured," he said, "most excellent Crito, +that to speak improperly is not only culpable as to the thing itself, +but likewise occasions some injury to our souls. You must have a good +courage, then, and say that you bury my body, and bury it in such a +manner as is pleasing to you, and as you think is most agreeable to our +laws." + +When he had said thus, he rose, and went into a chamber to bathe, and +Crito followed him, but he directed us to wait for him. We waited, +therefore, conversing among ourselves about what had been said, and +considering it again, and sometimes speaking about our calamity, how +severe it would be to us, sincerely thinking that, like those who are +deprived of a father, we should pass the rest of our life as orphans. +When he had bathed, and his children were brought to him (for he had +two little sons and one grown up), and the women belonging to his family +were come, having conversed with them in the presence of Crito, and +given them such injunctions as he wished, he directed the women and +children to go away, and then returned to us. And it was now near +sunset; for he spent a considerable time within. 150. But when he came +from bathing he sat down, and did not speak much afterward; then the +officer of the Eleven came in, and, standing near him, said, "Socrates, +I shall not have to find that fault with you that I do with others, that +they are angry with me, and curse me, when, by order of the archons, I +bid them drink the poison. But you, on all other occasions during the +time you have been here, I have found to be the most noble, meek, and +excellent man of all that ever came into this place; and, therefore, I +am now well convinced that you will not be angry with me (for you know +who are to blame), but with them. Now, then (for you know what I came to +announce to you), farewell, and endeavor to bear what is inevitable as +easily as possible." And at the same time, bursting into tears, he +turned away and withdrew. + +151. And Socrates, looking after him, said, "And thou, too, farewell. We +will do as you direct." At the same time turning to us, he said, "How +courteous the man is! During the whole time I have been here he has +visited me, and conversed with me sometimes, and proved the worthiest of +men; and now how generously he weeps for me! But come, Crito, let us +obey him, and let some one bring the poison, if it is ready pounded; but +if not, let the man pound it." + +Then Crito said, "But I think, Socrates, that the sun is still on the +mountains, and has not yet set. Besides, I know that others have drunk +the poison very late, after it had been announced to them, and have +supped and drunk freely, and some even have enjoyed the objects of their +love. Do not hasten, then, for there is yet time." + +Upon this Socrates replied, "These men whom you mention, Crito, do these +things with good reason, for they think they shall gain by so doing; and +I, too, with good reason, shall not do so; for I think I shall gain +nothing by drinking a little later, except to become ridiculous to +myself, in being so fond of life, and sparing of it, when none any +longer remains. Go then," he said, "obey, and do not resist." + +152. Crito, having heard this, nodded to the boy that stood near. And +the boy, having gone out and staid for some time, came, bringing with +him the man that was to administer the poison, who brought it ready +pounded in a cup. And Socrates, on seeing the man, said, "Well, my good +friend, as you are skilled in these matters, what must I do?" + +"Nothing else," he replied, "than, when you have drunk it, walk about +until there is a heaviness in your legs; then lie down: thus it will do +its purpose." And at the same time he held out the cup to Socrates. And +he having received it very cheerfully, Echecrates neither trembling, nor +changing at all in color or countenance, but, as he was wont, looking +steadfastly at the man, said, "What say you of this potion, with respect +to making a libation to any one, is it lawful or not?" + +"We only pound so much, Socrates," he said, "as we think sufficient to +drink." + +153. "I understand you," he said; "but it is certainly both lawful and +right to pray to the gods, that my departure hence thither may be happy; +which, therefore, I pray, and so may it be." And as he said this, he +drank it off readily and calmly. Thus far, most of us were with +difficulty able to restrain ourselves from weeping; but when we saw him +drinking, and having finished the draught, we could do so no longer; +but, in spite of myself, the tears came in full torrent, so that, +covering my face, I wept for myself; for I did not weep for him, but for +my own fortune, in being deprived of such a friend. But Crito, even +before me, when he could not restrain his tears, had risen up. 154. But +Apollodorus, even before this, had not ceased weeping; and then, +bursting into an agony of grief, weeping and lamenting, he pierced the +heart of every one present, except Socrates himself. But he said, "What +are you doing, my admirable friends? I, indeed, for this reason chiefly, +sent away the women, that they might not commit any folly of this kind. +For I have heard that it is right to die with good omens. Be quiet, +therefore, and bear up." + +When we heard this, we were ashamed, and restrained our tears. But he, +having walked about, when he said that his legs were growing heavy, lay +down on his back; for the man had so directed him. And, at the same +time, he who gave the poison taking hold of him, after a short interval, +examined his feet and legs; and then, having pressed his foot hard, he +asked if he felt it: he said that he did not. And after this he pressed +his thighs; and, thus going higher, he showed us that he was growing +cold and stiff. Then Socrates touched himself, and said that when the +poison reached his heart he should then depart. 155. But now the parts +around the lower belly were almost cold; when, uncovering himself, for +he had been covered over, he said (and they were his last words), +"Crito, we owe a cock to Aesculapius; pay it, therefore; and do not +neglect it." + +"It shall be done," said Crito; "but consider whether you have any thing +else to say." + +To this question he gave no reply; but, shortly after, he gave a +convulsive movement, and the man covered him, and his eyes were fixed; +and Crito, perceiving it, closed his mouth and eyes. + +This, Echecrates, was the end of our friend,--a man, as we may say, the +best of all of his time that we have known, and, moreover, the most wise +and just. + + +FOOTNOTES + + [25] Phlius, to which Echecrates belonged, was a town of Sicyonia, in + Peloponnesus. + + [26] A Pythagorean of Crotona. + + [27] Namely, "that it is better to die than to live." + + [28] Hitto, Boetian for hioto. + + [29] Of Pythagoras. + + [30] Some boyish spirit. + + [31] That is, at a time of life when the body is in full vigor. + + [32] In the original there is a play on the words Haides and + haeides, which I can only attempt to retain by departing from + the usual rendering of the former word. + + [33] By this I understand him to mean that the soul alone can perceive + the truth, but the senses, as they are different, receive and convey + different impressions of the same thing; thus, the eye receives one + impression of an object, the ear a totally different one. + + [34] kai ahythis eteros kai eteros, that is, "with one argument + after another" Though Cousin translates it _et successivement tout + different de luimeme_ and Ast, _et rursus alia atque alia_, which + may be taken in either sense, yet it appears to me to mean that, + when a man repeatedly discovers the fallacy of arguments which he + before believed to be true, he distrusts reasoning altogether, just + as one who meets with friend after friend who proves unfaithful + becomes a misanthrope. + + [35] Lib. xx, v. 7. + + [36] Harmony was the wife of Cadmus, the founder of Thebes; Socrates, + therefore, compares his two Theban friends, Simmias and Cebes, with + them, and says that, having overcome Simmias, the advocate of + Harmony, he must now deal with Cebes, who is represented by Cadmus. + + [37] einai ti, literally, "is something." + + [38] That is, to single. + + [39] Sec. 113. + + [40] It is difficult to express the distinction between osia + and nomima. The former word seems to have reference to the souls of + the dead; the latter, to their bodies. + + [41] Its place of interment. + + [42] A proverb meaning "a matter of great difficulty." + + [43] "Iliad," lib. viii., v. 14. + + [44] A metallic substance of a deep-blue color, frequently mentioned by + the earliest Grecian writers, but of which the nature is unknown. + + + + + + + +End of Project Gutenberg's Apology, Crito, and Phaedo of Socrates, by Plato + +*** END OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK APOLOGY, CRITO, AND PHAEDO *** + +***** This file should be named 13726.txt or 13726.zip ***** +This and all associated files of various formats will be found in: + https://www.gutenberg.org/1/3/7/2/13726/ + +Produced by Ted Garvin, Jussi Kukkonen and the Online Distributed +Proofreading Team. + + +Updated editions will replace the previous one--the old editions +will be renamed. + +Creating the works from public domain print editions means that no +one owns a United States copyright in these works, so the Foundation +(and you!) can copy and distribute it in the United States without +permission and without paying copyright royalties. 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